Damn You Hollywood: Together (2025)

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Whorad for Hollywood where stars are living large inn mansions
with their servants and their credit cards and charge with fame.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
That's fleeting, but the.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Egos never change. Where everyone's a genius except the ones.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Who really arrange.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hooray for Hollywood, where the standals always sell, where every
whispered secret is a new tabloids.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Tell oh, how we.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Adore the endless red cockpit, the law, theay for Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well less is always more.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Hell Lo Lo Loo, Good evening, and welcome to damn
you Hollywood. I'm your host, Alexis Hana, and I will
turn things over to.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
You know, there's no other way to start the show
other than this candlelight and soul forever, a dream of
you and me together. Say you believe it, Say you
believe it, Free your mind of doubt and danger. Be
for real. Don't be a stranger. We can achieve it.
We can achieve it. I'm not singing it because I
don't want to scare off a few viewers we have,
mister Robert Winfrey.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yay, I look, one of us is going to have
to sing, and there's a city ordinance against me.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
So what'd you say, Jason?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I said, I don't sing.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Last time I sang, the dog started howling. So you know,
I mean sorry, not our fault. And Mark's not here
to torture us.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
So Jason, who's joining us as well? Jason, imagine me
and you, you and me even.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
To become one. I don't think I want to ever
imagine that because that is a horrific visual that I
never want to imprint in my mind.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Again, I'm like ninety percent sure there is a AI
or something where you could take two pictures like what
would our children look like a mession together? And I
know for all three of us it's going to be
a horror show no matter what the combination.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
YEA, yeah does seem pretty Yeah, No, we should not do.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah. I think that's one of the circles of hal
maybe be opened.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
It's one of them almost certainly. Well, if the context
clues weren't enough for you. Every tonight here the Unholy
Trinity has aligned ourselves and we will be discussing together
together another together.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I'm never gonna get those squelching sounds out of my head.
Props to whoever was in charge of these sound effects
and sound editing in this movie. You did a phenomenal
job of creeping me out.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
So for the benefit of those at home.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, I did tell you, guys, I was the first
one to see it out of the three, and I
told you guys to be prepared because this movie is
definitely something what we don't know, but it was definitely something.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
So Together is a twenty twenty five supernatural body horror
film written and directed by Michael Shanks and his directorial debut.
Film stars real life married actors Dave Franco and Alison Brie.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Congratulations to Day Franco for being able to continue a
career that is not overshadowed by his brother's creepiness.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
It's it's unfortunate because I liked making fun of James Franco.
Now I just have to beat up on Miles Teller
more for his dead, stupid eyes and his lizard brain. Anyway,
For those of you unfamiliar with some of his work,

(04:27):
this is his directorial debut. He's done a few other things,
mostly short stuff. He's probably most well known for The
Wizard of Oz a U s. He's got a brief
bit in the slot.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
UH apparently more known for his YouTube channel than anything else.
But you know, hey, credit to you know, starting off
with a bang and getting your name out there and
getting to do this kind of stuff. You know, we
always applaud uh seeing up and coming writers and directors, uh,
you know, make the jump, and we're happy for him.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
So, since the three of us are here, I do
have to ask why this one?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
What?

Speaker 5 (05:16):
And I forget who's I forget which of us.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Recommend Alexa Alex?

Speaker 5 (05:22):
So what drew you to this one? When the trailer dropped.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, I thought it did look relatively interesting, and the
early reviews were praising it. This is very similar to
when UH, Late Night with the Devil came out in
the early reviews were just singing the song of how
good the movie was. When I see stuff like that,
I am automatically intrigued. If word of mouth has gotten
that big that quick. So I was interested, And I

(05:54):
mean we had a blast doing the Monkey earlier this year,
plug Plug and we were talking about how, you know,
it's like we wanted to get the band back together.
It's always fun when the three of us get together
to talk horror movies. And I don't think we've talked
body horror on this show as of yet.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Well not specifically. It did come up, and Mark and
I talked about it relatively extensively when we discussed the
Substance last year.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I just showed my best friend that over the weekend.
She had never seen it and she wanted to see it.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's on my list, but I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
You'll enjoy it. It's good, okay.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
And which do you think is more cringe worthy as
far as body Horror Together or the Substance?

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Oh ah, they work on such different levels. Yeah, there's
nothing in Together quite like the monster at the end
of the Substance.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Well, there's the monster in the cave.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Even that.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, that, that's where practical effects goes wrong, but we'll
talk about that later.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
So, yeah, there was that. So Jason, you agreed to
tag along because we were happy to jump face forward
into whatever pool of quicksand we offer yeah, yeah, kind
of stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, this is this is one of those times that
you know, I I I get marked a lot of
hell for a starting animated film that he made me review. Now, now, Alexei,
you have one strike. But but but in your defense, uh,

(07:50):
you know, weapons looks like something you recommended that looks
really good and we're we're hoping that that pulls pull
this Now going into this, I was I was very
intrigued the trailer. The trailer did a good job. The

(08:10):
trailer sold this movie way much, a whole lot better
and more than you typically see a trailer. The trailer
kind of this was really good. That's why That's why
I seem interested, because we don't we have a top
body horror. I'm not particularly a body hoard person. You know,

(08:31):
I tend to you know, it's hit or miss with me,
you know, like you know, like the fly is up there,
that is great.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
But then you have like a gold standard, right, I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
But then you have stuff like that, well I'm trying
to think of that Barbarian. Barbarian was kind of body
horror with the the the thing in the basement, the mother. Uh,
then you have then you have stuff like you know,
then uh, people consider I considered gore porn. But you know,

(09:11):
you got Body who Are of? Some people call it
body who Are is in the hostile movies.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
I can't watch the hostile movies. I the body horror.
It's I don't like watching people be.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
With me.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I'm fine with that. It's just that one scene in one,
the eyeball scene in one cant I can't handle. It's
just one of those things. But then you like, you know,
you have the mutilation and stuff on which I'm fine with.
But this, this movie has sold me. The trailer sold me.
That's why I agreed to do it. Plus, you know,

(09:51):
I always like reviewing movies with you two, especially when
it comes to the horror genre. And like we said earlier,
you know, we haven't explored body whore the three of
us together ever, So diving into this was a new
experience and something that I look forward to.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
All Right, tell you what real quick before I jump
into the plot, just go around the table real fast.
We already mentioned the fly, so let me and David
Cronenberg is probably like the master of body horror a
lot of respects.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, but apparently his son is really making waves with.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
The I saw pool Yeah, that's the one that he
did that was you cound it doesn't feel like David Cronenberg,
but it does feel very like a Cronenberg movie in

(10:49):
a lot of ways. So when it's oh, it's his
kid that directed, like everything about that makes all kinds
of sense. But yeah, just real quick, go around the table,
real fast, some favorite body horror movies, because for the
sake of argument, let's delineate between gore. I'm for the

(11:12):
sake of conversation between gore and body horror. I tend
to view body horror as not so much just pure
violence or mutilation, but the deliberate, uncanny distortion and violation
of the human form.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
That's a good way to put it. Well for me,
I'm actually kind of new to body horror because for
the longest time that was the threshold I wouldn't cross.
A lot of excess blood and guts and stuff always
made me very squeish. It took forever for me to
just watch the first three Saw films, you know, I
didn't think I could get into it.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
The first two of those are fine, three the last
act gets a bit over the top.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
But yeah, and admittedly the later Saw movies I didn't like,
not because I I didn't like the Body Horror, but
just because I they're bad. Then I felt they got
overkilled with some of the torture scenes, you know, like
the woman in the Bronze Bull. It's like, guys, less whole.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Thing about that.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
But listen to the long Road to ruin that Sean
and I did for the Sawt franchise. If you're so
inclined for my deep praise of the first two and
a half and then my utter contempt for the ones beyond.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
That, I will say we mentioned the substance. I'm a
huge fan of that. I still say Deman Moore should
have won the Oscar.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
She should have. You know, it was politics that kept
her out of that. She should have won that.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yeah, all three of us missed that on the UH
on the Oscars pool. We did.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
It's because we look the week after we did that,
I looked at all the like political wind shifting that
was going on around those movies, and the joke became,
you know, it would be a very conclave thing for
Conclave to win Best Picture, because everything else suddenly has
a problem. The Brutalist has a use of AI in it.
Briefly and this says another thing, and this has another thing.

(13:15):
And so when it actually came time for all the
awards to come in, Mark and I kind of looked
at each other and yeah, the conclave effect, everything else
just found some extraneous problem with it, So no one
voted for it. Never mind that some of those others
were a lot better than an Aura, but that's a
whole other thing.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
I will say, it's not a body horror movie, but
it does have some really good body horror in it.
Color out of Space.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
That's a good one that definitely has some of them there.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, that sequence. I still remember the night I want
to go see that with a friend of mine. I
didn't even I hadn't even heard of it, but he's like,
there's this indie film that's going to be like one
night only in a theater. I want to go see him. Like, uh, okay,
you know, I'm game. I did not know that was
going to happen. And yeah, when they bring in the
mom and the sun on the blanket I first time,

(14:06):
and I don't know how long I actually a moment
I instinctively turned away from the screen, just you know,
that moment, just like that, We've all had moments like
this where something actually hits us and it scares us
and it's just like nope. So yeah, what about you, Jason.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
I mean, like, like we said, the ghost standards a fly,
I'm gonna say this and you guys are gonna laugh
because this goes back to me and Mark being being
b movie people. Basket Case for some reason, for some reason,

(14:54):
basket Case holds a special place in my horror genre.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Technically why Robert's definition that is body horror.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
It absolutely is. I appreciate that. Well that's a deep cut.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, I mean well, I mean they're silly, but some
of the just some of the practical effects, uh, and
the way they was done, and then you got like
stuff like trickle down, Like I mean, do I consider
solved body horror? Some of it walks that line, even

(15:30):
though the best kill is because I consider body horror is.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
The best kill in Saul is the the twisting of appendages,
uh and the manipulation of them in Stall three, I
think that is one of the most really my it's
it's one of those queasy things because it's it's done
really well.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
But then you, like I said, I mean those are
there's where a lot of our bodyhore goes back to
like the the eighties B movies, because I mean it
was huge. Then this kind of brought me back around
in the body horror because when when we've seen it,

(16:16):
and it was this movie is basically pitched as it
has pinched the way that the movie does not come
off as it's pitched as kind of like an obsessive couple,
uh and one the and one of the guy's obsessed

(16:38):
with the girl and she's trying to get away and
you know, but then it just totally throws you out
in the left field and you're like, what the hell
am I watching? About? Twitting minutes in You're you're like,
it's like somebody took an idea from Blair Witch, uh,

(17:01):
The Fly and some occultist film and just said, Okay,
here's how we're going to do this movie and Lobster.
And then at the halfway point it takes a shark
left heard and you start questioning not only your own life,
but why are you existing in the theater And sadly

(17:25):
I was the only one in the theater it was,
which made it really more of a of a of
a unsetttling.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Feeling that's the best way to watch movies. I'm convined
the experience by yourself.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, but with a movie like this, it gives you
that really it's really unnerving, and it gives it as
to a whole new level.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
It would have been more unnerving if there was someone
in the row immediately behind you in one chair over.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Oh we're actually you know, since you do pick here
on chairs, that they came and sat right down beside
me out of the entire theater. That would have been better. Uh.
Just I would have just looked at him, went first time, huh.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Oh, now you're Dave Franco with the deuce around your neck.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, first time, huh. But yeah, I mean, uh so, Robert,
what what's some of your favorite body.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Corn I got a few, I mean, video dromes, a
classic if we're just talking body horror, because we're still
dealing with Cronen more animated side of things. I have
such a love hate relationship with this movie for a
variety of reasons. But Akira has a really gnarly body
horror series. Why did not even.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Think about it? Kira? I freaking own that on Blu
Ray again.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
I there's a lot about that movie that about that
animated movie that I love, there's a lot that I
struggle with because they made it before there was anything
approximating a closing, closing point to the source material, so
they can kind of just love the ending. Still on
the animated front, there's some pretty gnarly stuff and Maiden Abyss,

(19:12):
which I am very hesitant to ever recommend people watch.
There's a lot of reasons for that. Ask me about
them later. If you're so inclined, I that one won't
put you on the list. There's nothing illegal, but it

(19:34):
was like the first season will just destroy you emotionally,
especially right at the end. Then after that it gets
that's where you get. It's the second and third movies
where you get into the really gnarly like body horror.
In the same vein, there's a real solid body horror

(19:54):
element to District nine with shirleyt.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, I did not. I did not. Why wouldn't they?
I didn't even think about his body wherever.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
That makes a lot of sense, and it's really interesting
he went toward the animates, not because I don't really
think of any horror genre or especially body hoarder being
an animated form.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
So that's really interesting.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
If you want to go like but not illustrated but
not animated, No, I'll cop out and just say anything
by jungi Eto pretty much will have a lot of
twisted stuff. There was.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Didn't they do an animated version of.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
God bless them? They tried.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
I didn't watch it.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I I didn't.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I wasn't home the night it aired.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Okay, well I'll be quick about this. Then they got
the rights to Uzumaki, which is one of his like
and that's the one that has a lot of body.
I mean a lot of his stuff does, but usam,
he's really good. They the problem they ran into was
their budget was not what they were promised, and after

(21:10):
getting done with like an episode and a half, they
were told, Okay, you have to finish this real cheap
and then we're just gonna release They weren't done with it,
and they were just told like, okay, we're gonna release it.
So the first episode or so is actually pretty good.
Everything after that is literally unfinished, and I feel so

(21:31):
bad for the studio because they got screwed on that.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Ouch.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
We're going one day we're going to get a recobbled
cut version of that, aren't we?

Speaker 5 (21:41):
I sincerely, hope. So all right, so that's kind of
a little bit of our backstory with Body Horror. So
as for Together itself, the movie establishes its tone very
early with a search for a missing couple and a
couple of very poor dogs.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
I was gonna say, who here watched that scene and said, oh, okay,
we're apparently watching the thing.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, there's definitely that is definitely there's.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Another good body Horror, which I forgot I also own.
I don't know why I didn't think.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
About that, because we tend to think about that one
more for the paranoia than the body horn.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, I mostly just think about that one and I
go and I remember the one time I tried to
watch that while I was on my lunch break, and
I was just, hell was I thinking?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I mean, in the same vein you have the scene
from Alien the chess person sing the alien and the
face huggers. I mean, some of that is considered.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Tiger's work has a lot of anatomical.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, penetration again.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
But no, seriously, if if you don't consider a chest
burst or bodyhore, then I don't think yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, and especially when you consider the original fate of
Tom Scarett in that movie, which would have been very
body horror those of you who don't know. The original
idea was for something about the for the life cycle
of the alien to be a little bit more self contained.
So an egg gives off a chest a face hugger,

(23:19):
which gives birth to a xenomorph, which then does something
to the people that kidnaps, and that turns that that
like forces their bodies to change into the eggs that
spawn face huggers. So it would have been a lot
more self contained. So there's actually a cut scene from
Alien where Tom Scarett's character is slowly being like turned

(23:40):
via practical effects into an a an alien egg. You
can find stills of it online if you don't mind
the nightmares.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Let's just be thankful that instead he just dives with
the alien going give me a hug.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah, best jump scare in that movie too. Anyway, So
these two as people are looking for this missing couple
couple of dogs, go down into a cavern. They drink
from a pool of water that's on a it's in
a hole that does not look natural.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
It actually looks geyger esque.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah, And they then start developing a weird sort of
looking at each other, and they go back to their
normal house and scary things happen where they start physically
merging and the poor owner has to go see them
half merged, and we get like half a second of
looking at them before we cut to the main two
characters we follow. We follow Tim and Millie played by

(24:38):
the aforementioned Dave Franco and Alison Brie. They're in the city,
which city is nebulous, the big city, and she has
accepted a new teaching position. He's bummed because he's a
thirty five year old desperately trying to be a musician,
and those people are just depressed by nature. If you
haven't actually succeeded by that point, you are just in

(25:00):
a funk. You have become depressed. And yeah, so the
crux of the story is kind of about their shifting
relationship as they try to figure it out. They've been
together for a while, but you know, are we in
a rut or are we is this the thing that
is like a good sort of complacency we've developed, or
is this really unhealthy? And so that dynamic is explored

(25:25):
through the characters. They move out to the country where
she's taking this job. They go hiking, I block out
the lens flair because Jorje r Abrams might sue us
for copyright infringements. They go hiking, they get trapped in
the rain because they're idiots.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Well, because they've clearly have I love. He pulls his
phone out. It's like, okay, so I have a compass,
so that's north and that tells us absolutely.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
For the record, boy scout here, my dad big into scouting,
almost an eagle scout me. So watching those two ignore
proper trail etiquette, ignore proper preparation, and then fall down
a hole and okay, well, look we can start a

(26:17):
fire by brain. So they fall into the cavern from
the opening sequence is the long and the short of that,
And Dave Franco, like an idiot, decides that instead of
refilling his water bottle with fresh rain water, which is safe,
we'll drink ground water from this weird pond in a
sort of biomechanical hole in the ground.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
In as they were scared and very thirsty. They both
mentioned how thirsty they were, so probably not thinking clearly.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, they had a bottle wine. I mean, there wouldn't
they wouldn't have gotten the hydrated just drinking the white
of the next morning.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
I'm just saying once again, these are yeah, I help
mind fish out of water. I really don't. And these
two are very much not people of the land and
the country, stuck in a situation they are ill prepared
for and make very very very bad decisions.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, I mean, and what's what's worse about it is
they point out that they watch man versus wile and so,
I mean, even through uh so osmosis, you're going to
pick up some tips just watching that.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
You really should learn that rain water is safe. Groundwater
not so much.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
But where we are.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
So he drinks and becomes one briefly with this weird
location because everything gets sticky and it starts breathing with him.
He is connected to now. But once the rains thoughts,
they're able to get out out and she meets her
co worker.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
You missed the part the legs all right there.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
They sleep into the proximity because you want you want
to maintain body warmth, and when they wake up, their
legs are kind of stuck together like super glue, and
they have to pull them apart, which is not fun.
If you've never been stuck to something like that, it's unpleasant.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
In case you've never been stuck to somebody.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Well, look, if you're moderately sensory deprived who didn't glue
their fingers together when they were bored in elementary school,
that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I'm not a kid that glued is, but we.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Won't talk about that.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
That's Darwin.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
So yeah, they So there's clearly something going on there,
and mister Franco starts having more and more bad reactions
when he is physically separated from Alison Brie. He starts
having seizures and they're written off his panic attacks. So
he gets a prescription for a bunch of muscle relaxers.

(29:11):
This is moderately relevant later.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Oh no, it's because of what happened to his parents.
His mother so.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Well that too. Yeah, doing a psychotic episode instead of seizures.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Well, I mean, we as humans try to think of
what the most likely reaction is. And if you found
out that someone who was the son of a woman
who had a complete mental breakdown upon finding her husband
in bed with her and just stayed there and next
to the Broaden corpse, Yeah, and you found out they
were having all of these problems. What would you think
they have inherited a genetic predisposition to psychotic breaks, or

(29:54):
their bodies are becoming iron rubber you are glue.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Look, Ockham's raids are never works in a horror movie,
but no one knows they're in a horror movie. Exactly
the log in the short of that, So again they start,
so those reactions start happening. They almost get stuck together
another time when he winds up unconsciously swallowing a bunch

(30:19):
of her hair, and so they're both freaking out again.
The relationship is kind of the subtext everything that's going
on here. She complains to her coworker and their neighbor
about what's going on, and he kind of advocates for
the importance of fidelity and closeness in intimate relationships. And

(30:43):
we know more about that in a minute or two.
So one of the big cruxes comes about here is
he is supposed to go back to the city to
perform in a concert, and when he has dropped off
and she drives away, he full on breaks down and
freaks out, staggers over to her at she's because she's

(31:04):
an elementary school teacher. They wind up in a bathroom together.
And if you think that two people who are starting
to have weird bits of physical cohesion touching each other,
what that can lead to? What might happen when you

(31:25):
engage in sexual activity? It happens.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to live that so.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Fun. Fact apparently the director's partner actually works for a
company that makes realistic sex toys, so for that scene,
they actually provided I assume the genitalia.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Free a jar.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I would hope that they didn't use this real one.
I mean, you know, because that's that's a whole new
level about were fucked up.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
No, I just think it's hilarious because normally that's the
kind of thing you got to pay a prop master
to make. And Shanks was literally like, no, I brought
one from home and all they had to do was
glue a little extra hair onto it to make it
realistic enough.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
And it's a it's a quick shot, but yeah it's there.
So now that Dave Frank has become Jewish, I never
get to make that joke, and I kind of the
opportunity presented itself.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Hang gon, it was called for, it was I deserve that.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
So uh again, things keep getting weirder as there's a
during one of the nights, their bodies start physically pulling
themselves to each other like their magnets. Uh. They fight
this off with muscle relaxers because that stops the bodies
from moving independently of each other. They wake up with
their arms still kind of net stuck together. This is

(32:55):
where you get the scene from the trailer where they
have to use the saws all to uh extricate themselves
a blessedly. I appreciate that they cut that scene short,
like that's actually good restraint anyway.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
So okay, don't that makes it scarier? E fact, don't
see it.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
You don't need more than what they gave us. So
another a little bit of a crossroads, trying to figure
out what to do here. Uh, Franco wants to go
back to the cavern and try to get some answers there,
and Alison breeze like, no, I just saw it into
our arms. We're going to the hospital. You know what. Fair,

(33:38):
it's a fair reaction.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
There is always just a wave of relief when somebody
in a horror movie actually speaks reasonably and says the
right thing.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, but she misplaced her keys because she's in a
horror movie. I say that narratively, not as a knock
on her character. So she goes to retrieve them from
their neighbor, while Dave Franco then of course runs off
to the cavern again, because of course he does, And
two things happened about the same time. He gets back

(34:11):
in there, and he's looking around for ances, and he
finds the couple that they were looking at, that they
were people were looking for in the opening scene, badly
fused and desperately trying to end their tortured existence. Why
THEO why this individual didn't show up the first time
they spent the night there as.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I was that, that was what I asked, you got,
how did that happen? How did because it shows up
so freely when he goes by itself, but when they
spend the night there, this this abomination is nowhere to
be found.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah. I was trying to think of first, did he
fall into a deeper part of the cavern that maybe
the uh, you know, the double up twins there fell
into that couldn't get out of. Or I was trying
to look for some kind of clue.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
I know they.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
And this time we're going to point out is When
she first goes to the neighbor's house, she notices that
he has a partner that they that there's no longer around.
So she starts asking and starts and then do you
start see peeling layers off the youngions and starts seeing
the similarities of both people into one, And he even

(35:31):
makes the comment that pays off a little bit later
when she goes back, do you want to watch my
wedding video?

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Yeah, so she's over there at his house. Well, well,
Franco is confronting this Cronenbergian nightmare. She's over at the
neighbor's house and his wedding tape is playing, and it's
him and another guy at the temple at this meeting house.

(35:59):
That is the wind one that's in the woods.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Now, actually that's they. He wasn't either of them. Those
are two totally different people.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
And that's yeah, I'll get to it.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
And as he's as she's seeing this and starting to realize,
oh no, you know exactly what's going on, the neighbor
shows up and spouts semi religious nonsense and then cuts
her arm open. And because he's a professional, he goes
down the radial nerve instead of across.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
It, right, because that is how you commit suicide.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
And Alison punches. I have a minor grid for this.
Alison Brie punches him in the face as she should,
mind you, and that partially like separates the faces of
the two guys. Like if a punch from Alison Bree
can destabilize your union, boy, do you really hope never
to get in even a mild fender bender? No kidding,
But now she knows a little bit more about what's

(36:54):
going on, so she, bleeding out from the arm, staggers
back towards Franco, who has come back up as well.
They both have attained the terrible knowledge, and Franco goes, look,
the only way the senses one of us dies. He
pulls out a knife and he goes, look, I love you,
I care about you. You have a great life, you
have great potential, you have a great future. I'm a loser.

(37:16):
I remember who I was before I met you, and
that guy sucked and I still kind of suck. So
close your eyes, I'm gonna save you. And about then
she passes out from blood loss as she would, yes,
and she wakes up back in their house and he's
there with her and he goes, I'm sorry, this was
the only way to stop the bleeding, and he has

(37:36):
melded their bodies together over the wound in her arm,
and they now reconcile. They express their mutual love and
commitment and literally merge into one.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Being as the Spice Girls play to Become One.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Raise your hand if you knew that was the song
they were gonna play, what do you say?

Speaker 5 (38:02):
I I'm not familiar enough with the Spice Girl's work
to have made anything even approximating a reasonable guest.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
I'm embarrassed to admit I don't listen to the Spice
Girls regularly, but obviously I know their songs, and the
minute he started put the record on, I knew what
song it was going to play. I'm like, oh, dear God,
she's like writing on the wall.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
You're folks, nothing wrong.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
With being on the.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Merged being. That is the two of them, greets her parents,
and boy, that's going to be an awkward conversation. You've
reached the point of the We've reached the point in
the writing where theme has to overcome substance in theory,
and that is it. That is together. A modern take
on body horror codependency and dating in the modern world. So, Jason,

(38:59):
You've given us a few your thoughts, but I'd love
to hear them in specific detail. So the floor is yours.
Sure you get to go first.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Well, let's just say that I've seen this on Saturday.
Is now Tuesday when we're doing this show, and I'm
still contemplating what the fuck I watched. I have The
more I think about it and the more I talk about,
the more questions I have. It's like, do do you

(39:29):
really the whole bill thing kind of was ominous, and
you know, you go down the bells, see these bells.
The fact that you know the merging was just the
first time they merge is just so uncomfortable. It is

(39:49):
one of those ones that I was actually squeamy sean
because it is it's done in a really good way
that shows like the bones and stuff kind of fusing
and kind of manipulated to the point where it's uncomfortable,

(40:14):
And that was that was spectacular and that I excuse me,
I did the movie was all right. It wasn't great,
It wasn't horrible. It's the worst thing I've said. It
wasn't was that it's not going to make any top
ten lists because it was I felt that it was

(40:36):
trying to tell three of his stories. It was three
short stories trying to be merged into a feature on film. Uh.
And I think it had a lot of social commentary
in that it was kind of hand hand hammering you
over the head with like the code dependency, the you know,
the the downfalls of relationship, and that that's something that

(41:02):
they could have went a little bit deeper in is
the whole condispendency, the fact that he was really he
was an anchor her. She had a bright future, she
was thriving, and he is just he's basically a giant
man child who can't is stuck in stuck in neutral,

(41:27):
spinding these wheels and can't can't move forward in life,
and he's dependent on her. Now that being said, the
jump scare was something that I highly highly commend. That
jump scare in when she comes to the other side

(41:49):
of the door was was very, very, very effective.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
But that's one of the few jump scares in this
new that doesn't telegraph from left field right.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
And I don't know, I don't remember if she drank
while they was in the cave, and that helped it
because I'm trying to rethink back because, like I said,
I'm still trying to figure out what the fact I watched.
I'm trying to figure out when when her semiotic relationship began,
because I remember when they're they're talking and her nose,

(42:26):
like her nose or stop starts bleeding. She she's bleeding
some somewhere, and her blood starts trickling across the table
to him, like being drawn to him.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Oh, that was so creepy when he looks down and
sees the blood is actually followed him across the table.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah, it's it's really good. It's it's a subtle detail
that is very very effective, and it gives you kind
of the the childs because when they're going down that
hallway and their bodies start manipulating to each other. That

(43:05):
was that was very unnerving because you see the you
see the bend, you see the contuition of her, not
so much him, but her contuition coming down that from
the room end of that hallway belevolent. Yeah, and well,
I mean I thought she was very wiet for a second, uh,

(43:27):
getting ready to crab walk across the floor. But that's
the whole story.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
An Exorcist.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, and it's it's something that's good. I think this
movie needed to be fleshed out a little bit more.
I think it kind of jumped around a little bit.
Like I said, I felt it was like three totally
three stories trying to be intertwined. You had the the
thing with the compass, the code of n the c

(43:54):
and the the symbiotic relationship that they and they stumble on.
So I think it's just one of those movies that
will I ever watch to give no. Was it enjoyable.
It's debatable, but I think it's also one of the

(44:14):
things that suffers from the critics being chilling that it
was a lot better movie than it is, and the
audience realizing we shouldn't listen to the damn critics.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
All right, Alexis I really enjoyed this. Casting real life
couple Franco and Brie was a smart move. I don't
know if you two have seen them in The Disaster Artists,
but they were great together in that. Again, I don't
know what your thoughts are on Tommy Wisso or James Franco,

(44:50):
but regardless of those factors, they were really really good
together in that movie. They have natural chemistry. You know,
we see a lot of times in films where we
see a real life married couple trying to portray lovers
on the screen and it just doesn't work out. That
chemistry does not translate onto film. These guys had it.

(45:12):
It really worked. I actually got very interested in the
use of the Plato Symposium the three genders as kind
of the backstory for the cold and for what happens.
The theory of the three genders is actually one of
my favorite parts of the symposium. Iboys found it to

(45:34):
be extremely fascinating, and to actually see them kind of
expand on that I thought was really cool. The scares
were great. Again, I mentioned whoever's in charge of the
sound effects here is going congratulations because you have given
me nightmare fuel. So often we don't actually see their

(45:57):
bodies conjoining until about, i'd say, closer to the two
thirds point of the movie. But frequently we hear that
swelching of the bones kind of moving around and the
skin getting closer to one another, and oh my god,
just like the sound before she wakes up it says,
you're on my hair that, oh god, it is terrifying,

(46:23):
and I love that. I love that they're able to
use the sound effects like that to convey so much horror.
We don't have to see the hair start going down
his throat. We just hear that sound and we know
something's wrong.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
It's directly wet sandpaper. It's kind of feeling I got
out of that one.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
This director is really good at the concept that what
you don't see is actually scarier than what you do see.
So much of this movie is left up to the
imagination of the audience, and it is terrifying. I thought
the cinema there was a lot of really good blocking
and cinematography. The scene where he's in the shower having
a seizure and she's driving her car and we get
kind of that drone overhead following her and we see

(47:03):
his body reacting in the same way. Insanely creative, well
done way to mimic of what she's doing to what
he's doing, to line it up really well. I thought
that was really good, very much so enjoyed. What the
hell was his name? Damon Harriman, who played the neighbor
Jamie Mark, and I actually just talked about him recently

(47:26):
in The Bondsman. He played a very bizarre character in
that and he is good.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
He's it was okay and I've got but I'm willing
to give it. It's not long enough to be like
skit to scare me off this.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
He's also a character actor, and he's going to be
in the upcoming Mortal Kombat sequel.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
I believe he's kwan Chi excellent.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yes we are, but yeah, no, I've seen him in
a handful of things. He's a really good character act,
so you know, credit to that. And I do like
how they laid out his character. When he started talking
about the bond between him and his husband, I actually
thought it first, Oh, were you also a victim of

(48:16):
the water?

Speaker 3 (48:17):
You know?

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I didn't realize it was going to actually turn out.
Oh shit, he's a member of the cult. I thought
it was gonna be. I didn't realize there was a cult.
I thought it was simply this water was just a
natural occurrence thing. He had found it, He and his
husband found it, they had bonded, and he was just
making the best of it. Before you find out, uh no,
he actually is like delivered in this shit. I don't

(48:40):
know if this is going to be in a top
ten for me. I've already seen a couple other horror
movies this year and right now, I think The Monkey
is a little bit better than this, but I still
very much so enjoyed it. And if you are a
fan of Body Whore, if you can take a little blood,
guts and some very disturbing cgi seeing body parts kind

(49:03):
of merge under their skin together, I'd recommend it.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
And if you have two hours there to watch a
movie though make you question your life going forward, this
is a good This is a solid, solid vitory into that.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Look, if a movie doesn't make you question at least
some part of your life when it's all over, is
it really worth it?

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Sometimes I think that the two become ones you and
Mark Robert. There.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
I should also say, I don't know. I know that
I'm the only one on this podcast currently married, but
I don't know the longest relationship either of you have
been in. But there is a point in relationships, and
I think this movie actually really does do a good
job examining it. You get to a point where you
do kind of become complacent. It turns into okay, so

(49:59):
is this just where we're going to be? Is it
going to be forever? Are things going to get better?
Are they going to get worse? Is it going to be?
Is it just going to stay like this?

Speaker 5 (50:07):
There comes to a.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Point where the honeymoon period is over. You still love
each other, but you don't know if there is anything
left to this relationship and you want it to continue.
Every relationship kind of goes through that at one point,
if it's you know, if you've been going at it
long enough.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Yeah it This is maybe gonna sound weird coming from me,
but I found the ending of this movie bizarrely optimistic.
And stay with me here for a second or two,
if you don't mind.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
I'm loliars.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yes see how this goes?

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Okay, yes, it goes to a horrific conclusion because it's
a horror movie. But if you look at what's actually
being said via the subtext, the movie here is about
the relationship between these two characters and and what are
we gonna you know again, what are we gonna do

(51:04):
with ourselves? What are we gonna do with this? Like?
What how is this gonna work going forward? Has this
run its course? And the fact that they arrive at
a mutual decision to do kind of what you Okay,
I am far from an expert in personal experience, but

(51:26):
again kind of go with me here. Long term relationships
and especially marriage, there does come a point when the
friction that happens is sort of the necessary smoothing of
edges to get you to stop being the person you

(51:46):
used to be, and the both of you sort of
do become a new uh, you become you become new,
but you sort of become a new person together. It's
why you talk about the relationship kind of like its
own thing. It is two individuals, but what makes it
work is the total of what the two bring together

(52:08):
becoming one. And this is long, This is long documented
throughout the study of human relationships. The fact that this
movie ends with them deciding to take that step and yes,
again I get it horror movie, but a more like
bleak ending is actually the reverse if you think about it,

(52:31):
thematically been one of them killing in themselves and instead
we actually do kind of get this optimistic version of
this where they've dealt with their strife. He's decided he's realized, Okay,
who I was was no good and I'm ready to

(52:52):
work and become a better person for the sake of this,
and she kind of stops resenting him as much as
she has been and realize that some of her own issues,
and they decide to be better together. And again because
horror movie, horrifying consequence, but thematically textually, if you redraw

(53:16):
this movie as a hallmark, it has a good ending
because they work their stuff out.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Yeah, and I do what you're saying, because like most
Christian weddings, you have the unity candle where you have
the two flames that come in one. I see where
you're getting that you're pulling that correlation. Secondly, I wish
they would have ended the movie with so Happy Together.
That would have been a great music cue when when

(53:45):
she opened the door, so Happy Together just started playing.
That would have been good.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
I would have gone similar in the diegetic frame. I
would have had that be with the what her parents
are listening to when they drive up.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Oh, that would have been even I would have been
in it and or were you know it takes two.
It would have been been been a good one. Uh.
But yeah, I mean I totally get what you're coming from.
You have you have that kind of you know or
you know, if they were closed it out watching uh

(54:20):
they was where you know, while they're pulling up, she's
watching Jerry Maguire and he he lets her and says,
you complete me. That would that would be well, I mean,
you know the Spice Girls to become one that I
mean that, you know, you could have just kind of
leaned into it even more. Uh, we could have just

(54:41):
got those two cues at the end, her watching Jerry
Maguire saying you complete me, and then so happy together
playing that from their parents her parents. So yeah, So
so how would you guys rape this movie? Like a
scale one to ten? What would you what'd you guys
give it?

Speaker 5 (55:02):
I feel like a six and a half six and
three fourths somewhere in that range. There's some really there's
some good scares. The effects are pretty good, both CGI
and practical because they're sparing with the CGI. There's some
writing issues you can't get around it. There's an attempt

(55:26):
at the Lovecraftian element near the end with the cult
and bear in mind, not cosmic horror. Not all Lovecraft
is cosmic horror. A lot of Lovecraft stuff can just
lean into the weird stuff that we find. So there's
a there's a lean a little bit towards that, And
with a bigger budget and maybe a clearer vision, this

(55:46):
would have leaned more folk horror than anything else, with
everyone kind of being in on it. But we got
what we got out of it, so there. Ultimately, again
there's issues of writing. You can see where the budget
is constraining, mostly in the mostly in the cast is

(56:08):
a very small cast, and it's the wrong unfortunately, it's
the wrong end of small enough to be claustrophobic, but
not big enough to actually feel like a fully lived
in world. So that's just one of the constraints you
have to deal with them. Dealing with a film like this,
you do what you can with what you have. I'm

(56:29):
just pointing it out. I'm not holding it too much.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
I'd personally give it an eight out of ten. You know, Roberi,
you bring up some really good points again, chemistry, good
visual effects. Great. Yeah, there's a couple of little problems
with the writing, but a lot of it falls into
the category of, well, it has to be like this
otherwise there's no movie.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
Yeah. My other gripe and this is a personal one,
but it's kind of what knocks it down a little
bit for me, the over reliance on the very very
obvious telegraph to jump scare. I've my tolerance for that
is very low these days, so the fact could get
like four of them. That's up, boy, we got an

(57:12):
audio cue going on here. Boy, I wonder what's gonna happen?

Speaker 6 (57:15):
Oh, it got quiet, and then I still jumped when
the rat squeaked.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Now the yeah, I was, I was falling in about
six and a half. The one thing that could have
pushed it higher for me is if they would have
made the town the quote unquote talent character and leaned
into that, like everybody knew what was going on and

(57:44):
everybody was had some kind of correlation to it. If
they would have leaned into that a little bit more,
and I think like the entire town being part of
the cult and these outsiders kind of stumble in and
made it like kind of a tourist trap thing. I

(58:06):
think that would have been really good to flesh out
and use the town as basically a supporting character. Just
open up, open it up a little bit more. Like
you said, so the cast doesn't feel like it's really
clusterphobic and you're focused on this, but then again, you
have the you have the outlier of there, the whole

(58:30):
town is in on it, but they're not really wanting
to show that the town's in on it and the
effects like it could have been a really weird and
they could have passed it off as like and I
don't want to say this, and you're what you guys
are would have laughed it's like kind of like an

(58:50):
in breeding thing and showed it like because you did.
Literally like you can have had like just you could
have like parents the parents. Everybody is just a single
parent because of their they merged and the children are
are just offspring. They're offspring the two parents, but the

(59:14):
parents have merged and everybody's a single parent to these children.
I think that would have been a really like ten
minute insert that could have flash this movie out a
lot better.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Make it.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
I think it would have really rolled into like a
Stephen King territory there. But I could get behind that.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Nobody no kids are fucking so we're keeping Stephen King
out of there. There's no there's no pre pre people
less orgy, so Stephen King is it is not inclined
to join in.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Not every Stephen King novel includes a preview best and
orgy and other sentences.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
I never thought I'd have to say.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
More than once. Uh, the irony of it though, The
unfortunate bit of it, though, is that it is in
maybe his most famous book, So yeah, he's sure he's
written hundreds of others at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
But yeah, it's like that's like you can say, you
can say a thousand people from a burning home, but
you fuck one goat. Are you known as a hero
or a goat fucker?

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
That's kind of how that goes. I think, again, not
to doctor this too much, but a couple of things
you could have done to tweak this. If you're gonna
show the wider town, then the setting does need to
become a little bit of a character onto itself, and
that's where this movie kind of falls down. The way

(01:00:41):
to kind of get around that is to actually deliberately
make it more claustrophobic, and that sense never quite comes
through with this. I'm not sure exactly how I would. Again,
you get at that point, you get into real specific
stuff about how you generate that sense of confinement in
in a movie. But that might have been something that

(01:01:03):
leaning a little bit more into that could have been
giving the thing a little bit more atmosphere. Because if
there's a thing, if there's an element that this movie
is lacking, all the not all. The majority of the
tension and scares come from the score and the sound

(01:01:24):
rather than a lot of the acting or a lot
of what you do cinema with the camera. So because
the other reason I'm being a little bit kinder to
this than maybe I would under other circumstances is this
is the guy's first time directing a feature. For a
first time outing, you know what, I'll grade you on

(01:01:46):
a curve a little bit and again gets you almost
to a seven from where I sit. But there's still thinks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
It's not a bad first outing for more direct No,
not all.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
So sayah, that is together, so happy together? Yeah? Okay,
So did we have another segment we want to do

(01:02:18):
or are we about ready to follow up with the
hour mark?

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
I feel where we covered about everything because I figure
it with us, so we would probably straight into doing
what we did with the Pestemetary review and start talking
about fifteen other movies like we did at the beginning.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
That's that's the other reason I wanted to do that earlier,
so we didn't drag it about doing it. If we
frontloaded that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
Part exactly now, this is our second damn you Hollywood
this week Roberts you joined Mark and Zachary Strovel last
night to discuss Nake a Gun in which and during
that you did the money and looked at the budget.
So we are going to skip doing the money.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
We don't have to go deep into it. But for
the record, for this movie in particular, budget of seventeen
million dollars, it's appropriate currently twelve point two million box office.
That's actually not bad for this kind of a film.
It's it's probably not gonna see profitability until after it

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gets whatever streaming deal it's going to get. But for
a studio like Neon, it's I mean, you're not over
the moon about this. But the dirty secret of Hollywood
is that horror movies are the engine for production studios.
Because you do them cheap, most of them turn enough
of a profit, and occasionally you get a big old
home run that finances your catastrophic failures like Babylon.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
I'll say this is why you see so many horror franchises,
because they really are not that expensive to maintain and
it they can churn them out pretty quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
New Line doesn't exist without Freddy. One of the examples.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Yeah, the Nude Line was built on is the house
fry Krueger bill.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Yep. So that's where we are monetarily with this one
at the moment, probably gonna wind up struggling a bit,
but again, smaller budget with I will probably wind up
being okay after it gets whatever streaming deal it's going
to get. So if any of this interest you, please
go give it a look. It's not a bad movie
by any stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
But now, did you guys have have multiple showings? There
was only three showings at the theater I went to,
uh between the two theaters, there was a total of
stake showings, three at each.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
I looked at two. Again. I was in Omaha all weekend,
so I literally came back today and it was I
was looking at two different theaters on which one I'd
be able to catch, and I think between the two
of them, one at four showings, one at five showings.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Quite interesting because yeah, I mean they had a total
of six showings here in Huntington, which is really odd.
And there was it was early showings. It was all
mattin eightes. We we did have no no uh, no
prime time.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
The way my local theaters work is for this kind
of thing, they don't They just give it a screen
basically is more or less how it works. There was
at least one screen at the local you know megaplex
dedicated to this that had like showings, all had like
throughout the whole day.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Robert, if anybody has listened to the rattling of broadcasting
network long enough, they know you and your three raccoons
in the trench go watch movies together every Tuesday morning
at nine am.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
Uh, this wound up being at eleven because mornings you're
kind of spoken for. Now I have to do it
on Monday, which actually costs me more money since the
because we used to have Daniel Hollywood on Tuesdays Mondays,
and now I don't get to go see movies at

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the on five dollars Tuesdays unless we're doing one of these.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Apparently AMC is cut their cheap Tuesdays now.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
Yeah. I the theaters around here is mostly Cinemark. There's
a I think there's a megaplex oh North a little
bit that's from my theater is so if I can
if I go see something that and I'm actually got
to go up there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
I just know because the couple in front of me
apparently was having to be explained to the managers. Apparently
I haven't explained to them why they were paying a
more expensive price for the ticket, to which I'm in
the back realizing that I didn't know how many preview
this previews this movie had, but since it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
Was, they tell it, if it's not with previews, it's
literally just with commercials.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Well, I was again, I was worried. I was cutting
this so close. So I am literally standing behind this
very angry couple. Yeah, ironically, we're also buying tickets for together,
and I'm like, look, I don't want to be a
bitch with The movie starts in twenty seconds, to which
they the vandrector looked at me and said, it has
twenty minutes of previews.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
You're fine, Yeah, I had thirty minutes of previews. I
think I could have watched an entire I think I
watched an entire movie before the movie started previews.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
In all fairness, smaller movies and horror movies genuinely have
less previews than big budget blockbusters, so I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Again, it's gotten to the point where most theaters will
have the allotted time and if there's not previews, then
here's your commercial for a car company or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
So, yeah, you can guarantee the fifteen, fifteen to twenty
minutes past the start time of your movies actually going
to start.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
Yeah, give or take. That's the state of moviegoing these days.
I said, we want to hit rotten tomatoes briefly, or
we want to call it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
I say, we hit rotten tomatoes. I think Mark will
be mad at me if we don't do rotten tomatoes.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
It's not damn you, Hollywood, if we don't have the
critical review.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
I suppose, all right, so let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:08:20):
I said no, God, no, God.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Please, no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
I hate it when it's got this banner top and
it's like you try to scroll down, it's like, nope,
going to take half the page off with it annoying? Well, hey,
right now. Together is rated ninety percent by critics and
seventy seven percent based off of the audience score.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
That's about right. This is This is one of those
like pseudo art house horror movies that critics will fall
over themselves trying to praise unnecessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
And the AI says, given an extra sinew of authentic
authenticity by the meta textual casting of meta textual that's
not a word you see very often. Casting and Dave
Franco at the top of their game together as a
body horror that is as emotionally sticky as it is

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memorably gnarly. And yes, there are quite a few scenes
that are very sticky. Yeah, alright, now, since I think
the three of us agreed that this was pretty good,
let's look for some negative reviews. So Edwin are Auden

(01:09:50):
not from Ashville movies, might be metaphorically rich if it
wasn't so on the nose and mired by gimmicky body
horror the movies, or it's not gimmicky if that's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
What it is.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
Yeah, this is inherent to the premise ergo not all
that gimmicky in that respect, and being on the nose
is kind of what you have to do with something
when you're metaphor is that obvious to begin with? If
you don't lean into being on the nose, you come
across as Obtuse.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
I get the feeling that this was the guy who,
like me, saw two become one written on the wall
for the final song and literally started pounding his head
into the seat in front of him, going no, no, no,
or something like that. Okay, yeah, Eric Langberg from Everything's Interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
No, it's not. Everything's interesting. That a false.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
I can imagine a certain type of person watching this
movie and coming away thinking it's about the evils of
the woke agenda, about the insidious way that queer acceptance
has threatened the stability of heterosexual relationships. Wow, dude, you
really read the wrong thing on this.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
My man, You whatever side you happen to be on
about this, I'm not commenting beyond saying you have been
in the culture war far too long. If your level
of PTSD around it is such that you can't unsee

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culture war bullshit in this kind of a movie.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
I'm just confused. What. I'm more confused about that comment
than I was about the fucking movie, because.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
There is Okay, I please tell me I'm not the
only one who actually did wonder. It's like, okay, so
if a guy and a girl combined together to become one,
I wonder what genitals they'll have.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
I'm not I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
That thought did briefly flash into my head, and then
I thought, that's a stupid thought. I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Horor movie. It's kind of where the directors screwed up mind.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Yeah, but I mean, I'm curious that if he pulled
a handstring with that stretch, I mean, that was that
was a bad stretch because I seen nothing, I mean,
no correlations from anything that he said to this movie.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
Again, this is the kind of guy who's been stuck
in the culture war for so long that he just
sees it everywhere, and there's no va benefits for that
being that kind of a veteran.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
Yeah, just because the person at the end is clearly
a very androgynous person does not mean this was a
message about being non binary.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I was just I'm just wondering if I
was the only one that was that. I thought he
was reaching reaching hell of a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
No, he's he's absolutely overreaching, and he's the one inserting
his agenda into talk because there's no reason to talk
about it other than your own desire to insert whatever
your talking point is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
I mean, it's probably he's probably he probably is one
of those people that like to hear yourself talk and
post something like that just to get some kind of
commentary and some kind of click bake.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
He gets a cheap dopamine hit from that poll being
getting one.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Right, Yeah, Chuck Bowen from Style Weekly out of Richmond, Virginia.
Who is this odd and bland mixture of thriller and
romance for well not ye.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
More community, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Yeah, the there's a whole niche niche body work fans. Yeah,
that would appreciate this, and you know, not everything. Now,
I'm going to say this that it's going to sound
early weird and especially coming from me. Not everything has
an agenda, So why put it agenda? Whether it's.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Max Ants Max Ants. Vincent from The Cosmic Circus says
the film contains the year's most unoriginal and unimaginative screenplay.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
Sir, I'm reviewing War of the World's next week with
ice Cube staring at a computer screen for the duration.
You have not suffered as I have suffered. You get
to shut up.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
How does that argument even hold up when this is
the same year we got the live action Snow White.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Yeah, there's the number of things that make this statement
untrue is large, dude. The Lelo and Stitch movies uninspired
and unimaginative too, they just stop.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Don't get me started on Leilo's Stitch or How to
Train Your Dragon Live action.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Year too.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
We don't we don't we don't talk about either one
of them, because Jason will become infuriated, and Jason will
go the deep and crash out, and there will be
one of those ten minutes durations of just beefs because
I will take it to a whole new level of
just crashing out and no filter.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
Family and family means nothing in the live action remax
pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
And family means leaving your leaving your doctor beast behind
because with the neighbors, so you can go be a
boss bitch. But that's as I was saying. We're not
going any further into that. Moving on.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Zachary Barnes for The Wall Street Journal Top Critics says
Together is less a fully conceived horror movie than a
plotting relationship drama with some impressingly disgusting effects super imposed
on it. The two elements allows don't quite complete each other.
This is a dude who has never had a relationship
with anyone besides his right hand.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
You took the words out of my mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
I'm going to say this in his defense. He's not
entirely wrong. I mean, that's the one of the things
we were talking about, Like if you told me this
was a part of the reason I'm as gentle on
this movie as I was is because I know it's
a first timer, and I'm happy to grate on that curve.

(01:16:20):
I would feel very differently about this movie if it
was somebody's fifth or sixth Let me, same movie, but
from a guy who's made five or six other films,
other feature length films, I feel very very differently about it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
That's true, it's very solid. When we reviewed Lisa Frankenstein,
we know that that was the first time movie for
Zelda Williams, and we didn't want to rake her over
the coals for it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
I don't care. If you put something out for the public,
the public can judge it accordingly. Look yes, but in
the when it comes out to it you there's a
standard for that you need to at least try to maintain.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
I don't anyone else judging them differently. I just say
that personally I do. I do great on a curve
when it comes to a handful of things. First time
feature director is one of those things that I'm happy
to greade on a curve for. But if I'm not,
if I'm feeling less.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
J when did you become the nice one?

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
I'm not nice? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Where did you become the sympathetic nice one of the
bleeding heart? Did Mark rub off on you? You can
hanging around Mark way too long. You're becoming You're becoming
a bleeding heart.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
When has Mark been a bleeding heart?

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
I don't think that was what.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
I was around.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Anytime he's on the anytime he's on the show with Robert,
he's always the alchemist, if.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
You want the honest bit. When I started becoming a
little bit more charitable about some of the stuff, I
got real, real tired of people not understanding my standards
in pro wrestling reviews. So consequently I that all start.

(01:18:11):
That all started because I gave a pretty positive review
to an aw YouTube show back when that was the thing,
and somebody in the comments jokingly went, wow, this has
rated so much higher than the episode of Raw this week,
so is it that much better? Which point I had
to say, I'm not grading them on the same curve.

(01:18:31):
It's not fair to this show, which is a bunch
of like enhancement matches on YouTube, to compare it to
a flagship program. That would not be fair. I don't
create go home shows for pay per views the same
way either, because nobody does anything of value for the
most part, because nobody wants to get hurt. So I'm
willing to give a first time director a little bit

(01:18:53):
more of a pass than I am, someone who should
know better and have done better on a bunch of
this kind of stuff. But again, that's me, and I
say that so everyone knows where I'm coming from. You
disagree with me, but are the substance of our points
is the same, then I'm okay with that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Fuck alright, Allison Wilmore, New York magazine slash Vulture again
talk critic Brian Franco in providing nuance and texture to
Million Tim may actually have worked against a film that
would be better off allowing its characters to be in
an unhealthy relationship from the beginning rather than just a

(01:19:28):
flubbed allegory. Okay, so apparently you need this to be
like the War of the Roses level of they have trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
I think the dynamic works because you see them, you
see the samebody relationship without the supernatural thing that he
is opinion on her to. But yet, like like I
said earlier, he's holding her down, He's anchoring her because
of all aspigures in life, he's holding her back, and

(01:20:03):
it's to the point where she's you know, she's really
because you can see it, and they do it. Suddenly
she's already thinking about walking away from the relationship because
she just can't be his emotional support any longer.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
There's a version of this story that is just deeply toxic,
and that's fine. That's not a bad version of this
story to tell. But I appreciate that this one didn't
go that way. I have this person I'm sure is
looking forward to the upcoming War of the Roses adaptation
where Bennett Cumberbatch and oh what's her face? Because I

(01:20:42):
like her work and I can never remember. Yeah, yeah,
when those two go to kill each other, that'll be great.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Again. I like that their relationship isn't that overly dramatic,
because this is something that, again a lot of couples
go through. You still love each other, you still enjoy
each other's company. This isn't we need to break up
because clearly we're at the end of our commitment and
we don't want to be around each other. This is
we still love each other, but is staying in a

(01:21:13):
relationship together the healthiest move and complacency.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
Let me put it this way, a less ambitious director
and writer would have made this a story about two
toxic people. A more competent writer and director would have
taken the nuance provided by that he was going for
here and turned in something really great. We're kind of
stuck between those two points here with what we got ultimately.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Yeah, but I mean I didn't see any issue with
their relationship. I think that I think it was a
really good balance the show things that progressed into what
we got.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
To the end, all right. Adam Naman of the Toronto
Star again top critic. For every cheap composition or striking
bit of staging, there there's a cheap predictable For every
creepy composition or striking bit of staging, there's a cheap
predictable jump scare. Eventually, it's clear that the movie isn't
above such conventions, but sutured together from them.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
That's a little bit further than I'm willing to go.
But as the guy who spent his portion of the
review saying that there's a lot of jump scares that
I'm more than a little bit tired of, I can't
disagree with a lot of that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
And you know, he had this other metaphors sutured in there,
which is.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
Of course he did.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Sandra Hall, Sidney Morning Herald top critic Shanks whips up
a convincing air of menace. But I'm no fan of
body horror in its most explicit form, and the gross
out scenes had a countervailing effect on me, encouraging me
to respond not with shock but with but a faintly
clinical detachment. I have a problem with this with people
who review movies that are clearly not meant for them.

(01:22:57):
I understand that, you know, not every movie is going
to be every critics cup of tea, but it's very
hard to watch a move to read a review of
someone who openly admits, you know what, I don't like
this kind of movie in the first place, You're not
going to get a good review out of them.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
I appreciate the intellectual honesty of this person to at
least admit that, so you know what, thumbs up for that?

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
All right, Well, guys, as much as fun as it's been,
I am gonna have to start heading out.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
Yeah, I think I think you're probably good here at
this point.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Then let's forget about this last review here. Who calls
it the Exorcist meets emotional labor.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
Yeah, is one of those stupid faux therapy speak words
that I've come to loathe. Yeah, all right, since we're
wrapping up here, what do you gotta plug sir?

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Well, actually, you know, I'll go ahead and say it
here as well as you know. I don't know if
I've made it none. Yeah, think I did the main chat.
I actually a couple of weeknds ago, I actually represented
our Adlega Broadcasting Network in the Scott Fish Fowl charity

(01:24:13):
Draft in Nashville, Tennessee. So so I am participating for
our live draft was for National Autism. We got to
meet some of the local autistic people that benefits from
the charity that we're playing for, as well as gets

(01:24:35):
some great information and resources that you know, and learned
a little bit of autism. Why while doing something I
greatly loved, and that's fantasy football. And you know, I
spoke to Mark and I asked n if he had
a problem with me going on as a representative of
their Allegia Broadcasting network. He said it would was perfectly fight.

(01:24:59):
So there might be a return of a certain show
coming up. Yes, the top Mark about it I'm still
kind of mulling around if I have the time to
do it, but the come come uh September one, there
might be a shore returney to the network, just I

(01:25:23):
can find a co host that can tolerate me longer
than a hour. Uh Top Fantasy Football. That's that's what
we're gonna do. Also, in the process of hoping that
my own business, we are got the LLC, we're waiting
to get the the trailer bill and we meet with

(01:25:48):
someone upcoming with the we'll have our own brand of
coffee called Brutal Wakening. Uh. It should be coming hopefully hopefully,
if not November, then definitely the start of twenty twenty six.
So Brute Awakening Coffee will be will be plugged often

(01:26:12):
on shows once it's up and earning. And outside of that,
we return here in a couple of weeks when we
review weapons. If I'm correct, next week? Is it next week?
Oh lord, I thought it was two weeks away. Okay, Okay,

(01:26:33):
so yeah, so let's I gotta I gotta fit that
into my schedule this weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:26:40):
When you get your coffee company up and running, the darkest,
bitterest blend you can come put together has to go
to Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Well, now, actually, what's the funniest thing is one of
the the one of the expressos is going to be
named after my mom. It's going to be enough cafee
to stop your heart because you did die of a
massive heart attack, so we we are naming it after
her and creating enough caffeine stop your heart. So yeah,

(01:27:08):
that's that's my sense of humor. And if I if
I want to get something Mark, it's going to be
extremely homosexual and pink and and I'll name it the
R I N B. But uh, that's all I've got
to plug. Uh, you guys have a wonderful day. Uh.
And I guess I got to figure out how to

(01:27:29):
fusin this movie in next week because as of uh,
as of this weekend, I'll be in Columbus this weekend
and uh Saturday night, so I got to figure out
how to figure Uh. Well, I I want to go
see matt Rice, So same difference.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
Well, appreciate that half dances on every land mine he
can on that on that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Yeah, that's the beauty of it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
There's at least I found at least three websites that
are officially counting down the days until his death now
that he's purchased the where the end is located.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Yeah, the word of state, Yeah I can. I'm sure
that that'll be brought up in the show. But I
guess I will see you guys next week. Hopefully, worst
case scenario, I'll fake stick at work and get out
and watch it on Monday or Tuesday. So I will
see you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
So help your boss doesn't watch our show.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
I'm my home boss. I'm a ten ninety nine. The
only thing I got to do is like, hey, I'm
I'm not working past I don't need any leads past
five o'clock. I'm going to go see a movie. Or hey,
gon't give me a lead till three o'clock. I gotta
go movie to see. Uh that's housing the new Superman.
I told him. I was like, look, Superman released today.

(01:28:58):
We got out of our sales meeting. I was like, look,
I'm I'm gonna watch Supermans it is at this time.
So I free after that, and he was like okay,
So so yeah, so you guys have a wonderful evening
and I will see you next week.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
See you in a week man, all right, So you guys,
all right, alexis what do you gotta plug?

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
All right? Well, like I said, well, Honeysuckle Rose Creations
for fashion, meats fandom at the intersection of geek and chic.
Like I mentioned earlier, we just got back from Omaha.
I was working the Comic Con Nebraska. This is a
brand new show. They just started off this year a
slow start, but you know what, for our first year
was really good and we've already signed for a table

(01:29:41):
with them next year, so looking forward to being part
of their growth. I don't really have a lot of
time to rest though, because I am going to be
heading out not this coming week, but next weekend for
the Colorado Springs Comic Con. We do that one every year.
If you're in the area, be sure to swing by,
especially since among the guest list of celebrities they got there,

(01:30:02):
they have a large roster of actors from the Kevin
Smith movies, including Oh Look at That Kevin Smith and
Jason Muse themselves will be there. So enjoying that, looking
forward to it as always. You can find us on
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(01:30:24):
Blue Sky Screw You, Twitter, not looking back and as
long as it's still operational, TikTok. As far as upcoming shows,
tomorrow night, I'll be coming back with Mark to talk
Monster season two. That is the Lyle and Eric Menendez story.
I'm going to talk about how Harvey Bardem has got

(01:30:44):
a Emmy nomination for proving that that man is still
absolutely terrifying.

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
If the director asks him to do something, he is
one of the He is one of the better actors going.
He's just not afraid to choose projects that are either
very weird or very paycheck.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
It is so surreal to watch him in the Dune
movies and then go and watch him in this playing
the father of these two murders, because oh my god,
he is. We'll be talking about this more. But he
is so scary in this series.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
Because I was first introduced to him like a lot
of people in No Country for old Men. Likewise, he's
also very scary in a different way. He's the one
in Mother If memory serves, that's him and Jennifer Lawrence.
The whole thing's in that weird allegory. It's not an I.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
Couldn't watch it because I thought that that's a Darren
Aronofski film, right. Yeah. I usually like Darren Aronofsky if
I just saw trailer for a movie that he's got
coms that I think actually looks pretty good. I'm not
a fan of allegory that hits you over the head
with the symbolism.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
I prefer that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Yeah, I prefer more abstract, draw your own conclusions kind
of an allegory. That one. It's just nope, no room
for you know, suggestion or different opinions. This is what
it is. You'll get, you know, get over it. I
can't stand movies to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:24):
Yeah, but he's pretty He's got presence in that one,
if nothing else. So yeah, Javier Bardem's always a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
So we will be back to talk about that again.
Next week. The three of us will be back to
talk weapons that. I didn't intend for these movies we
back to back, but we said we wanted to do
both of them, and they came out the weekend after
each other. So it's like, okay, fine, we're doing back
to back shows. And the day after that, I will
be joined by Jesse Starcher. We are starting our Stranger

(01:32:55):
Things retrospective. We're gonna be doing one season per month.
Leading up to the premiere of season five at the
end of day December, with one exception, and that is
since the month of December we got to wait, we
are actually going to be talking a graphic novel, Stranger
Things meets Ninja Turtles.

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
Of all the eighties crossovers they could have done, that
was a choice.

Speaker 4 (01:33:25):
I got nothing, but I got the book, and Jesse
and I are going to talk about it. So we're
going to start our retrospective next week and the week
after that. This is when, Okay, it's funny that you
talk about how August nothing is coming out. Somehow we're busiest,
and yet in the world of television, this is when

(01:33:46):
we're the I'm the busiest because we have had so
many shows coming out, and I am going to be
in the week. So the week after Stranger Things a
TV party tonight, Mark and I will be discussing Resonant
Alien season four because the world needs more Alent Tudic
And shortly after that, Jason is coming back. He's going
to be joining me and new guest Josh. You know,

(01:34:08):
we're going to be talking Twisted Metal season two. Really
excited about that because now it looks like we're really
getting into the meat of the game. We're getting into
the actual tournament. We get to see calypse. Calypso played
by the same actor who played Metamorpho in Superman. He's

(01:34:29):
a good actor.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
Well, you know, if you need someone to look a
little bit scary, hiring someone with alopecia is usually easier
than getting someone to shave their bodies.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
You know what. He gets frequently cast as villains, And
he said, I read a review by him saying that,
you know, he said, you know, I make the alopecia
work for me, So he works exactly. He's like, you know,
I should.

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
Clarify that that's alopecia universalis technically yeah, but no, alopecia
is just a fancy word for baldness.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
True, But what he has is yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
That's again the universalist version, which is the only version
that I tend to recognize as being worth talking about,
because androgenic alopecia is is male pattern baldness and then
gynocentric gyinogenetic excuse me, alopecia is why Jada Pinkett Smith
thinks she can.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
Convince her husband to slap Chris.

Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
We saw someone on national television.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Yeah, no, It was actually a really affirming article because
he talked about how he made it work for him.
He said, it's like, well, if I don't have this problem,
then I can play roles that require a lot of
prosthesis and makeup, where most actors don't want to go
through that kind of a thing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
So, and it's also a lot. It's also a lot
easier when you can apply stuff directly to the skin.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
So so you know, credit to him for owning it
and making it work. Again, I really liked him as Metamorpho.
I cannot wait to see him as calypso I think
he's going to be a lot of fun. Also, credit
he is not one of the actors we produce to
taking that role. We were so off on that. I
think we all thought it was gonna be more Campbell,
but he was too busy filming The Long Walk, which

(01:36:12):
we need to review that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
I will double check if it's on the schedule or not.
I also need to I think I own it. I
probably do. If I don't, I can find it. I
read it. I don't reread a whole lot because not
to brag, but my recall is so good that if
I read something once, I tend to just retain the
vast majority of it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
Well, I kind of figure that you're usually the one
who remembers the movie quotes better than I do. I mean,
I didn't even get to bring up the joke about
the mildew that Dave Frank says in this movie, which
dad the whole audience actually laughing.

Speaker 5 (01:36:46):
Really, it's like was sticking us together, Like that's not
how that works, man, Yeah, but we do I know
about mildew.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
It was a great lok. You know, this movie actually
did up a couple of really good laughs. I love this.
He was like Valume. It's like he gets the muscle
re election. He's like, Valume, it just in pain. He says,
it's called Diazmam.

Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
Now. Yeah, it was great. Yeah. Look, I'm I'm more
excited for what this director is going to do going
forward than I am about enthused about this movie in particular.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
But yeh, again, very similar to Zelda Williams. You know what,
the movie had flaws, but it has proven to us
that this is this director does have talent. There was
a lot of really good things in this and we
want to see more going forward.

Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
Yeah. As for myself, as has been mentioned next week
we will be I have two reviews next week. One
of them will be War of the World starring ice
Cube looking at a computer screen.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
Praying for their soults.

Speaker 5 (01:37:54):
Not to be offended by your bad Latin. The day
after that, it's okay, I appreciate the Sorry, I haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Been to a church at h and for the record
of Episcopalian, not Catholic.

Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
I would have guessed Unitarian, but fair enough. The week
the day after that, we'll be back here and the
three of us will reconvene to review weapons, which looks
actually okay. Else that they got Josh Brolin, who tends
to make everything better that he's in. I'm busier this
week still because on Thursday, Mark and I will have

(01:38:27):
a long road to ruin for the twenty eight days,
weeks and years later movies.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
Just a tiny bit delayed on that one. Sorry call
it no, I know, I know the schedule got full.
I know that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
But we also hadn't done a review of the discussion
of the other two movies and that franchise before so.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
Marks, which threw me for a loop.

Speaker 5 (01:38:55):
Well, they came out before we'd ever done. Damn you, Hollywood.
So and then when there's only two of them, that
doesn't really it just never kind of got around. By
the time we were we would have gotten to the
point where Mark and I would have discussed, like, hey,
do you want to talk about these they'd said, yeah,
twenty eight years later is gonna be a thing. So

(01:39:15):
we just waited.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
I guess I always figured there was an on trial
law somewhere where you guys looked at those two.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
Nope, yep. So the long road to ruin Mark and
I will tackle that. Uh, I'm always nervous talking about
movies I actually enjoy. So we're gonna see how that goes.
And yeah, yesterday Mark and I, along with Zachary Strobel,
reviewed The Naked Gun. A good time was had, laughs

(01:39:43):
were had. Comedy is not dead, it turns out ironic
considering that I said after twenty twenty four, I no
longer believe in comedy is a concept. Given some of
the movies that came out last year.

Speaker 4 (01:39:56):
Who would have thought it would have been executive producer
Seth MacFarlane that would kilt that back into you.

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
I would not have bet money on that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
Personally, none of us would have.

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
So you can listen to our review of that, and yeah,
I've also got coverage this weekend per usual, ww SmackDown
on Friday over at four one one Mania dot Com.
UFC on ESPN seventy two will be Saturday. It's not
a very good card, but if you want a full preview,
I host the four Pound MMA podcast, so give that
a listen if you're so inclined, if you want my

(01:40:30):
take on the wide wacki wonderful world of mixed martial
arts and combat sports at large. So thank you all
to everyone who tunes in there. Thank you very much
listener viewer for tuning in. At this point, anything you
can do to interact with this stuff is always appreciated,
especially YouTube, but at the moment is experimenting with views
don't count unless it's an engaged view, and that is

(01:40:53):
a deeply inelegant solution to their problem of too many
bots are watching movies and we don't need advertisers to
get wind of bot movies being played to bot viewers,
because then that kills.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
Our ad revenue pretty much.

Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
But that's the that is the apocalypse that advertising on
the Internet is going towards. Because it's not just a
YouTube problem. Spotify has now AI listeners listening to AI
bands in to the tune of millions of listens. So
that's our current nightmare. Enjoy. So anything you can do

(01:41:28):
on that front again, always appreciate it. If not, just
listening is really the most important thing as far as
I'm concerned. So thank you all and we will see
you next time. Until then, Alexis has the button, so
I should let her do the sign out.

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
All right, thanks so er, Thanks everyone for listening. Hope
you have a wonderful night. Be well, behave and be
careful where you go.

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
The get away from random pond

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Water say, be careful where you get your drinking water from.

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