TV Party Tonight: Resident Alien (Season 4)

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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hell he loo loo, Good evening, and welcome to TV
party tonight. I'm your host. Alexis hana enjoining me. He's
got broad shoulders, great hair, and nipples like Spanish the balloons.
Mark Radlage, Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Hello there children. Yes, it is a sleepy McGhee.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, if you're so sleepy, then we'll just cut to
the chase. We are wrapping up on Resident Alien season four,
the finale. We have been with this show since the
beginning and joined the hell out of it, and it
is time to bring things to a close.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Do you remember how all this started. It was we
did a comic strip I think it was, did we
read the book or whatever the first trade was, and
we reviewed the first season and by god, I thought,
well this is done. Now we've done this, we never
have to do it again, and here we are three
seasons later.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well that's like any one of us who get involved
with the podcast. You know, we think we've escaped your clutches,
but you just keep pulling us back in.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't pull anybody. You all show up on my
doorstep and won't leave.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
No matter how hard we try. But yes. Fourth season
of Resident Alien created by Chris Sheridan, starring Alan Tutic,
Sarah Tomko, Corey Reynolds, Alice Wetterlund, and a barrage of
guests including Linda Hamilton and this season Stephen Roots, because
who else are you going to get to play the

(02:30):
father of the alien?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
He was great. I was telling you before the show
the least interesting parts of this show were the with
a sci fi adventure elements, Like the most interesting stuff
was the dramatic thing, you know, the character arcs, the
dramatic turns, the relationships between these characters. Except for everything

(02:54):
involving Stephen Root. He was. He was fantastic. I loved
everything he said, you know, I was. I wish he
had lasted more than an episode.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Absolutely. I mean, anytime stever gets added to something, you
know it's going to be awesome. Hell, I loved his
little moments in the Mandalorian.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah what I remember of them?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yes, but yes, resident Alien. We have been chronicling the
life of Harry van der Spiegel, who well now known
to a lot of people is actually an alien who
crashulated on Earth to destroy the planet and ended up
discovering his humanity. As the fourth season wraps up and
we start to learn what happens when an alien grows

(03:40):
a soul.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, it was an interesting concept. So what Alexis is
talking about is only the lore of the show is
only humans have souls, and souls are a commodity in space.
They can be converted into energy or whatever. Hell it
was with something stupid. But after three seasons of Harry

(04:05):
being a stranger in a strange land and you know,
his his alien ness gives him like superpowers. This season
he the Big Hawk is after being on the alien
space Shifter as a prisoner, he lost his essence and
now he is he is like Superman and Superman too.

(04:26):
He has given away all of his superpowers and he
is mortal and he has to live with being mortal,
and so there's a lot of like over the course
of ten episodes, there's a there's a lot of him
just adapting to being human, figuring out what that's like,
and in doing so he grows a soul and that
becomes a huge block point.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Definitely, we have to contend with the evil manted, the
definitely bad alien. The shape Shifter was by the always
awesome Clancy Brown, who has taken Harry's place in Patients Colorado,
and it is just hilarious. It's like it's you know,
the directors are like, okay, because it's Allent two dick

(05:04):
playing another alien pretending to be Harry Vanderspielk. So it's
like Harry Sanders Harry removed by two.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, it's gonna say, you know, how like the direction
to Allen Tudck is you know, you're a dick, but
you're mostly likable. You know, you're kind of autistic playing
playing the alien playing him. He was like, you know
that that element of it where you're likable, you know
and awkward. Yeah, you throw that out now you're just
a dick. Yeah, you're just awful.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh and also you want to try to mate with Asta,
so you know, just let's see the most awkward seduction
in the history of mankind.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I like the stuff with not that particular bit, but
over the course of the season, you know, you really
get to see how close Asta and Harry are. Uh.
They love each other in the way, you know, in
in the only way platonic people can love each other.
And when she talks about leaving, he really like throws
him for a loop because, like he one, he struggles

(06:09):
with change to begin with. But you know, the idea
that he could be in Patience without Asta, you know,
she's his she's his grounding object. You know, without her,
he's adrift and can't quite you know, as much as
he gets. He has his own relationship with Darcy and
gets along with her and they have a really funny chemistry.

(06:30):
The time travel episode is fantastic of those two. Oh yeah,
you know, it's it's Asta. He it is through his
relationship with Asta that he that he grows in his humanity.
And when she's saying that, you know, maybe it's time
to go after her father talks to her about it,
and you know, my father says to her, was like,

(06:52):
there's so much of a bigger world outside of Patience,
maybe you should go see it. And it was it's
I'll tell you this as much as I'm like, I'm
glad this show is over, and I know it was
one of those where I wasn't that excited to talk
about it. There are moments in this show that are
pretty brilliant, and you know, Asta looking for her dad's approval,

(07:12):
showing her competency taking over the diner and her father
and has met with her father's kind of ambivalence about it.
It was like, yeah, okay, haven't you had you ever
thought about leaving Patients and her just like the fuck,
like what they would take me for granted, you know,
but then coming to the realization that, you know, tough love,
her father was right. She has lived a provincial life

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and you know, and maybe she's outgrown it, and Harry
struggles with that, but by the end they both realize,
you know, all all the good boys of Patients have
finally found their adoptive parents, and it's time for Pete
Dragon to go find new boys.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Because we also have Harry's incentive to move on, and
that is the return of Heather, the blue Avian alien
that he fell in love with in the previous season.
Dealing with the fact that now that his alien essence
has been stripped away he can't actually see her as attractive,
and finding out that he's now a father of well

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aside from Bridget, now five little knockoff Labooboo children.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, I thought that whole episode was like forced, you know,
it was like, I know that they needed to give
him a reason to leave at the end when he
finally becomes an alien again. But I felt like while
he was human and that was happening. I hate to
be all westering about this, but in the real world
she'd have been it would have been fine, and he

(08:38):
would and it would have been fine with her staying
in her human form. But instead we have to make
him overly sensitive. And then it's I it bothers me
because it's such a stupid trope in Hollywood right now,
Like you just you deserve so much more than I
can give you in this current form. Go be happy.
And it's like, what does she have to fucking do?

(08:59):
She could love you and wants to stay with you.
Stop saying she deserves better, you psycho.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, it's all the fact that her father shows up,
who is just a freaking turn or something. I don't
know the deal was with that, and that he her
father basically says in alien language, if you marry a
human and decide to forsake your alien form stay in
your human form, then you are cut off from us forever.

(09:26):
And yeah, Harry realizes that that's too big of a
sacrifice for her. He loves her and he doesn't want
her to have to give up her you know, her
parents and her home planet and everything. And then there
is something to that, and you're right, part of that
is a setup because he does realize when he gets
his alien form back, he goes, it's like, I have

(09:46):
a woman who wants to by the way, I don't
care when I want says The proposal scene was so
damn cute.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
My mom and dad are my moms Jewish? My dad
is or was at one point, it's like Catholic and
and needless to say, on both sides of the family
back in the seventies, both in New York, neither fam
neither side of the family was in love with this
idea of you know, this Jew marrying a gentile and
you know vice versa. When my father said to both

(10:14):
sides of the family, we are getting married in March
on this stage. Show up or don't show up. But
that's what I'm doing. And all these people who voiced
an objection were there for the most part. From what
I remember, my point being, there was a there were
other ways to go with with that. They chose the
lowest hanging fruit to move the plot on.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well, okay, because my parents both were Catholic, but my
father was a divorcee. My mother's parents did not attend
my parents' wedding. My mother got walked down the aisle
by her uncle. My grand my maternal grandparents really didn't
come back into their lives until I was born. Because
it's like, Okay, we forgive you for you know, for
the sacrilege of divorce, because you've provided you know, an offspring,

(10:57):
so good for you.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
You've created a sacrifice. We now we accept the sacrifice
and we'll rejoin the family.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, pretty much. So, so you know, I kind of
I do kind of get it, because, yeah, my mom
was worried for a while if her family we're gonna
cut her off, and thankfully they didn't. You know, she's
still very close with her siblings, and but yeah, so
it's like I do kind of get that, you know.

(11:24):
And and like I said that, the proposal scene was
really cute. The fact that Harry comes her and is
honest with her that you know he is human and
he can't assume his alien form, and he assumes that
she's gonna get angry and leaves, and she gets down
on one dy and proposes, and she says, I'll stay
in my human form for you. I don't care you,
the love of my Life's like, oh my god, this
is sodium cute. And then he gets ruined by the father,
who's a fricking turn and we get a POV shot

(11:47):
of him attacking Harry.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
It was a fun scene. You haven't noticed your name yet?
Did you see my I did? I did Shortinger's Cat.
Very nice. Shortinger's Cat escape Plan? Yes.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I picked this up in Colorado?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
So is that? So? The last convention I went to
one hundred years ago, there was a booth selling T
shirt instead of Apocalypse Cow and I had to have it.
I had to have an Apocalypse Cow shirt. But I
did ask the vendor. I was like, what is this
supposed to be? Like? This is a band? He was like, no,
actually it's a musical. So what is Shortinger's Cat? The

(12:29):
escape plan?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
The cat trying to figure out how to Escape the box.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, no, it's just a goofy shirt.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's just a goofy shirt.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I no.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I was like, I was working Colorado Springs Comic Con
this last weekend, and this show is actually one of
my favorites to work, not just because I love the
customers and I love selling stuff, but it gets some
really awesome vendors and I love all the goofy stuff here.
Actually got one more thing here. It is a dinosaur
chicken nugget coin purse, right, I love it. I got

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this on a trade, actually made a custom necklace for
a vendor, and.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
She gave me this nice well done well.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But no, I, like I said, I was glad that
there was that incentive. We want Harry to have a
happy ending. You know, we knew that he needed to
leave his planet, and we didn't want it to be
a case of I'll just go back and deal with
the fact that my planet's going to be pissed at
me because I didn't kill you all. We want him
to have something to go to. He's got a family
waiting for him. You know that's a good ending.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well. I don't know where this is in your list,
but I just want to address the late season enemy,
which is, you know, the one alien from his world
that comes down to finish the job. And within a
week of being there, you know, being plied with women
in alcohol, suddenly realizes, Hey, wait a minute, maybe I
don't want to kill the humans.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Hey, no one can refuse shots Judy and Nicki minaj.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
I. That has been my experience.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes, no, it was again, there is something to that.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
First of all, I love that he takes the form
of doctor Ethan, so it's not a random case of oh,
there's this new doctor. Doctor Ethan was planning on, you know,
taking over anyway, so he's got the credentials.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, it was. It was I you said before. It
was like a perfect ending to the show, and I
don't disagree with that. They wrapped everything up nicely. I
think the characters have gone as far as they can go,
and I think leaving the I think the lasting message
of this show being humanity is a very unique thing
and it's worth fighting for, which may or may not
be true in the cosmic sense, but I'm not here
to debate that. But in terms of a very humanistic,

(14:34):
earthly sense, that is very true, and I thought it
was a very nice message, you know, and it was
lived through by that character. That character within like an episode,
goes from I'm gonna kill them all to you know,
to developing these humanity in a way that even the
other characters remarked it took Harry a while to do,
like he does it like a record time.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well I do again. I was wondering at first, should
we I've just ended the show before Doctor Ethan showed up?
Should it have been nine episodes instead of ten? But
the more I thought about, I realized aliens Earth, Harry's
race is going to keep sending people down to continue
his mission.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
We need to have.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, I know, right, So I like this. I was like, no,
this actually makes sense, the idea that it's like, yeah,
they'll keep sending them and we'll just keep warming up
to them and showering them with kindness and love, and
when they realize how great they love that kind of stuff,
they will change, just like Harry did. And now like
doctor Ethan is so I guess At first I was like,
do we really need this? But the more I saw, like,

(15:39):
you know what, this actually makes sense? This is and
I do love that little line of Harry's at dance,
like I'm not probably not the first alien to come
down here and be turned by humans by their kindness.
Yeah so, but yeah, the main a lot of the
main point of the season is about the Manton, who

(16:01):
is killed off we think in episode three, but especially
after we see Max our.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Alien track really like on that's the word I'm looking for. Annoying,
no anticlimactic. They made such a big deal of this
Manton and it's like blown away in episode three and
it doesn't come back for the like six episodes or something.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, yeah, because we think he's dead because Heather comes
back or no not Yeah, Heather comes back and eats him.
And I just love that just it's right in front
of Max and Ausa's like, oh hey, guys, you seen
Harry gobble Gobble gobble gobble. Just just so casual.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Don't buy me. It annoyed me just because like it.
This is one I think that it's one of the
problems with the writing is it didn't feel like in
all the way through arc. It felt like some very
disconnected stories that filled that of season. And so the

(16:58):
Manton is you think the Mantet is going to be
more of a presence throughout the season, It's really not.
It kind of pops up when you need it to
and then summarily disposed of when you don't need it.
And I'm like, that seems lazy to me. I For
it to have been killed the way that it was
because it was inconvenient to have it for the next
few episodes kind of annoyed me.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
You're not wrong, because yeah, the at first the mantet
is the main plot point, but then by episode three
he's killed, and then the main plot point is Harry
reconcile the fact that he's human and given this opportunity
to regain his alien powers right which he needs once
he finds out the mantet is still a.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Lot Harry in like the twenty Fetch quests.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's like playing Final Fantasy n side quest side quest,
never a NIG side quest.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
If Harry had wrote a chocobo, I would be less,
you know, angry about it.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
But we again, we get a lot more of Harry
trying to get just grasp the fact that he's human.
Now we get some really great Saints have been trying
to bond with Bridget, his son.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
The nice little marketing opportunity the Bridget has turned into
amuse me greatly.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I absolutely love the scene of Harry coming in and
Bridget's freaking playing poker with a bunch of other aliens.
It's like, I want to see alien poker gaves war often.
There is just so much there's so much potential for
a scene like that.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
You know, it's so funny. It's funny that you reacted
that way. You who have often talked about, you know,
various instances of being bullied. And all I could get
out of that scene was poor Harry. Harry is like,
I don't fit in with humans. I don't fit in
with aliens. I have no tribe. I'm a man without
a country. What is life? And like poor Harry, it's like,

(18:50):
you know, like trying to get along with these guys
and they're just abusing them. And it's like, oh, I
feel bad for him.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Okay, I may have written down I want to see
more alien poker games. When Harry first walks in the door,
before he starts getting trashed by the other aliens, Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Two things can be true at the same time. You
can watch more alien poker games and those guys can
be dicks.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Two things I took. There were two things I want
out of this season more alien poker games and the
knife that Mike brought to that dinner that's super sharp
cutting knife. Sorry the foodie and me looked. I'm like, oh,
give me, give me, give you a game.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
So you're on TikTok, you have you seen like the
cooking videos of like the guy's cooking out in nature
and oh yeah, they're all selling knives, you know, of
course they are. Yeah, that's what it reminded me of.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I've seen the ones where they build their on fire,
catch the fish, skin the fish, cook it right there.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah. Yeah, they're cooking on stone shit like that.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Mm hmmm, oh yeah, I've seen plenty of those. I
see here. I'm trying to go through my notes here.
One of the other things I really enjoyed about the
season is that, finally, one of it's kind of driven me,
especially in the last season, because you get various different
groups who who have figured out the truth they know

(20:06):
so well, not the whole truth, but majority of the truth.
Ben and Kate who have figured out that their baby
was abducted by aliens and they've been regularly abducted and
they want to get their child back. You have Mike
and Live who also saw on Alien Now, and for
the first couple episodes, Mike's a complete denial until he finally,
you know, sees the truth and finds the alien gew

(20:29):
I'm given to you.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I know that. We talked about how Mike's character has
gotten less like annoying after the first season, where like
his character was utterly like ridiculous and so like, but
like subsequent episode subsequent seasons, they've calmed him down. They
went right back to first season Mike. This season, yes,

(20:51):
it awful. I I I there were times where I
was kind of with him, like I understood where he
was coming from. But for the most part, they made
him dumb as a brick again and like way cluster
b personality disordered to the point where like, and I
guess you have to make him that way so Live
can have appropriate tantrums and you're cheering, like and you're

(21:13):
always cheering for Live. God, her, she still she has
become one of my favorite characters in the show because
she's just like she's clearly lost weight and her clothing
is big on her, and like Mike doesn't notice, and
she's just like every day disappointment, you know, or like
the very annually, just like you know, like, are you

(21:35):
excited about the alien? No? I'm so sick of alien?
Did everyone to see another alien? Again? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
She's like I because she kept complaining that everyone else
is seeing aliens besides her. Mike knocks out a gray
and the government covers it up. Mike sees the man
tid feeding on the deer and while she's peeing, and
it's like, you finally got to see an alien. She goes, yeah,
and had tried to eat me. Yeah, but again, what

(22:04):
I was going back is you got all of them?
Do they say you got Max? And oh my god?
What what's the name of his friend? Sarah? What is it?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Something like that?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, yeah, I yeah, Sahara, Sahara, that's it. Sorry I
mixed up the two letters there.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I felt bad for both of those kids. That's so
the boy, But the girl has I'm sure she's going
to grow up to be a wonderful, beautiful human being.
She's a bit in her awkward teen years right now,
and it's like the show has taken so long and
she was just at the right age to have a
giant growth spurt and be an awkward looking teen and

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it's like, ooh, I'm not trying to be a jerk
about it, like I'm I'm just I looked at her
and I went, Okay, you know sometimes sometimes, you know,
puberty can be difficult.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Well, her character, frankly kind of really becomes annoying. I
get first, Well, Max is very annoying in the first
half of this season. The fact that he goes in
blindly with Bridget thinking he's going to take out the
man's It's like, no, no, you're not sweet.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Tax has never been bright, But I actually like the
stuff that towards you. When he runs away from his
mom at the gas station and he's like, I'm so
tired of the overprotect Like I like the Mayor character,
but he's also a bit of a drip at times.
And I like the fact that Max has finally fucking
had enough of his parents and and they're you know,
and it's hard, you know, it is hard to know

(23:32):
where to stop protecting your kids and where to let him,
you know, experience life, and not everyone gets it right clearly,
because you know, have you heard this, have you seen
the teacher tiktoks of the COVID kids that are entering kindergarten,
like rabbit animals. From what I understand, my.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Cousin's baby just start. Our child just started kindergarten. I'll
have to ask her about that. But and Max does
is really useful later on because again he's the only
one who can the disguise, so he's the one who
He's like, I have to go into the caves. I
know it's dangerous, but I'm the only one that can
see through the disguises, and he does save their lives.
Goes that, you know, when the manta takes on the

(24:12):
form of Asta and they can't tell what's what it is,
He's like, no, that's it, and they believe him. But yes,
sahar Is doesn't really do much except undermine Max because
she talks about how she you know, she's like, well,
I'm the one that's in charge of the alien club now,
and she develops the manticide, but there's this big stretch

(24:35):
about her side. It's like it's all natural, will not
hurt the environment. And I'm just like, why is this
a thing? I don't care that you invented a weapon
against the mantid and it's all natural. I don't get
why that's a plot point.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
You being a liberal hippie communist, you know, lesbian hooker,
and you can't tolerate that. That tells you a lot
about modern Hollywood writing well, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
It's like, I wouldn't have minded it if it felt
like it was natural to the plot or actually contributed something.
It felt like I've been over this a million times.
I am not against things like that. We talked about this,
when we talked about the whole I know what we
did last summer TV show. You know, the excess of
nudity in that show is like, I don't care. If
it's excess of nudity, I'm fine with it. But if

(25:21):
it feels like it's just shoehorned in for the sake
of being shoehorn in, then it's annoying.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Right, one might even say, don't shove it in, you know,
make it feel natural.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Pretty much, I felt like her talking about that was
not natural. I mean, the man designed was all natural,
but his conversation wasn't.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Here's why it didn't bother me. If like Harry or
Austa or Darcy had said it, it would have felt unnatural.
That kid is the right age and the right level
of a shrill to do stuff like that. It was
a one time gag of Judge Ratlage will allow it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
You're allowed to disagree with me. I'm just saying it
like that didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Bother me, all right, But going back to my main point.
So we got all the groups and throughout the third season,
you get the you get this this question in your head.
You know, if you guys were just honest with each other,
maybe the ship could have gone faster.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well that the the the episode where it all which
thank god, because I just get a little tired of like,
no one knows what the what anyone else is doing.
Everyone's to lie to each other. Like it actually broke
my heart when the Mayor is talking to Darcy and
he knows she's lying and he's straight up like telling
me the truth and she won't, and he's just the
look at disappointment in his face, like, ah, that's heartbreaking. Okay.

(26:48):
So the scene where at the end of the show
where they finally all revealed, you know, the mayor and
his wife learned from Darcy that you know they've had
the baby all along, Harry's an alien. When they were
at the Fairy and I think it's Austa who finally
tells Mike and Live that Harry is an alien. They're like,
we already figured that out. Carry on. Then.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I do absolutely love the scene when Mike and Live
figured out, because yeah, they realized there was another alien
and Lego's don't you remember when Max said, and I
just you see the light bulb go off in their heads.
It's a really well to unseene.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I'll tell you what really annoyed me though. You know
when they're talking when they're talking about why Mike remembers
going fishing with his dad, and it's like to reveal
that Harry implanted the memory there so that they wouldn't
question whether or not Harry was an alien, and Mike
freaks out about it as much as he does. I

(27:48):
it felt like a very Mike moment, which is why
I'm not going to harp on this too much. But
it also the biggest. The best analog I can give
is the way Tony reacts to Steve and Bucky at
the end of Civil War, which Andrew and I have
gotten into fistfights over. I don't really need to re
litigate that, but I said at the time, I don't

(28:09):
think a rational human being would have reacted the way
Tony did. In that moment. I said the same thing
about star Ward, you know, when they're all trying to
get the fucking gauntlet off of Thanos, and in star
Ward has a you know, a momentary moron moment. I
was like, I, this is the kind of writing that
he forces you to accept the character is beyond stupid,

(28:31):
so that we can get so we can get past
this point. The thing with Mike when he's like I
refuse to forgive Harry, he implanted a memory of and
and they're like, but you never took your dad fishing
before that? Well I might have had he not, Okay,
you're only gonna you have this memory of taking your
dad fishing once, so you're never gonna do it again. Dude,

(28:53):
I took my dad fishing a couple of years ago.
The only reason why I have it is I don't
have an extra five hundred dollars lying around to take
the boat out. I would love to go fishing with
my dad. Like it was a It was a moment
that felt at once very Mike but also very untrue,
Like I understand Mike is the kind of person who
blames the victim for be for the why the cops

(29:14):
shoot him. But it it was a little too pitchy,
a little too dramatic, Like you're almost supposed to feel
sympathetic for Mike, but I don't, and I think the
whole thing was stupid.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Agreed. I do like the scene where Harry gets them
to or basically makes peace by setting up a I
mean again, it is it was a situation that should
not have come to that, but the way it is
resolved is very heartwarming. So I'm willing to kind of
like because yeah, I actually wrote on here, Wow, Mike,
one confession and you're ready to declare war on Harry

(29:50):
and then a dendum. Okay, super cute way to fix it.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
So you know, it's like I agree with fishing. Seems great.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, so it's like I can't really hate on it
now that I know what they did with it.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah. No, I get you what you're saying. I think
I'm just over Mike. You know, he's another one where
his whole character is this one gag.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
No, you're You're absolutely right, And admittedly he was the
one who was grading on me the most. I do
love that he gets recruited into this little alien you know,
I joined the Men in Black. We're not actually called that.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
If you don't joints, we'll have to kill you. Don't
tell her, no, No, we don't like you know how
I talk about sometimes the writers are a little too
in love with their own babies. They're a little too
in love with their own jokes. That was one of
those moments for me.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I get that, but I do love that. That's the
way things up wrap up for Mike and Live, that
they they joined the agency, and that little tidbit about
uh live finding out fairies are real? Come on, that
was so stick and cute.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, I love Live, I Live is fine. Five stars
in the Tokyo doome No notes.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, let's see here what else I got on here?
Note geez, I've lost track of how many people say
this is bullshit?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
That gets said a lot it does. Isn't there one
where they tag team on it where it's like this
is some bull Harry's like shit, yeah, well what do
you say?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
We go ahead and talk about Episode six. This is
the one that definitely hit us both the hardest. Harry
is dragged up to the Galactic Housing Council because the
Grays have apparently launched a lawsuit against him. I guess
even in space you can't avoid frivolous you know, lawsuits
like that. And the council essentially says, okay, look, we

(31:50):
can forgive you on everything if you kill the manted right.
And at first, of course, that's when we think that
the Mantet is dead and Harry's like, oh yeah, fine,
just chuck up the corps. And then you find out
Nip that thing basically fed off the new trient rich soil. Okay,
I'll admit the way that they brought him back as

(32:10):
stupid as hell, But find Manta's back and you find
out more just how to more of the depth of
what Harry has gone through in patience and how much
he has grown, especially since now he doesn't have his
alien sence anymore. And the heart and you get this
heartbreaking scene with Darcy. Yeah, and because we talked about

(32:35):
I actually re listened to our season three review while
I was driving back from Colorado plug plug, because I
couldn't remember a lot of what we talked about and
I didn't want to rehash old plot points. And we
talked about Darcy's little suicide mission that she does to
in the ship to get rid of the Grays and

(32:57):
to bring back Ben and Kate's baby, and how we
actually thought maybe she it should have been a suicide mission.
We didn't understand why she she survived and came back
other than you know, they didn't want to write off
the character. And we start to learn more about Darcy
kind of felt the same way. She doesn't really know

(33:18):
what she's doing with her life. She's an she was
an Olympic level skier, you know, didn't make it to
the She got to almost got to the Olympics, she qualified,
didn't go, didn't compete. She doesn't really have any lasting relationships.
She lives with Asta's roommate, and yeah, she works at
the bar, and she's an alcoholic. And I don't care

(33:41):
how much of an alcoholic you are. You do not
start drinking when you have a secure money bag under
your coat. She's a faky, yeah, honest flaky as Judy,
who we learned the only thing you call her for
is when you're digging a grave. Otherwise, do not call
that woman for help. And Darcy is kind of suicidal.

(34:03):
She she really doesn't understand why she's stuck around. She
doesn't understand what she's supposed to do, where she's supposed
to go. She feels she's just making everything miserable.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, Darcy is still, despite her ship or demeanor, is
still going through the stages of grief of her career.
You know, a lot of our identity was tied up
in Olympic level skier and then she loses that opportunity
and she never quite figures out who she is. She
finally does, you know, when she cleaned, when she sobers up,

(34:37):
she starts going to meetings. She goes to the one
Kid's house and says to her, like, if you like,
if you like to ski, go ski. If you want lessons,
take lessons. But you're just making excuses to not live
your life. And I've been down that road, and this
is where it got me. Make better choice, kid, And
I think Darcy kind of sees herself and I totally
get this as somebody with wisdom that is able to

(34:59):
be passed on and that's a and that's a good
enough reason to go on. But yeah, I wrote to
you like Darcy talking about actively wanting to kill herself,
Like that was a rough fucking scene for me. I
also been there, so you know.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
There's also the scene in the pow wow Harry has
they have to get the kid, the Ben and Kate's
baby off of the reservation because h Harry buckled under
the jolts and inadvertently told the housing council where the
baby was. I'll blame him. I think we could only
take so many essential shocks with the cattle prod before

(35:38):
we'd finally say, fine, I give up.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
I know some people who you just have to threaten.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, I think some of them work for the network.
But uh, he takes the he walks the baby, and
he notices the baby gets calm at from the sound
of the drums. They're doing a pow wow for the
ute community. And he goes in and you have this great,
great conversation with this elderly ute woman who discusses with

(36:04):
him the belief that we are all connected. And I
know that sounds corny as hell, but the way they
talk about it and just how everything plays a part,
even if you don't realize that you are a part
of this world. You may not understand it, but you
are a part of the fabric. And it's a really

(36:26):
great moment, especially for Harry's holding this, who's hold the baby,
who's finally so crying, and he even he finally starts
to get a little bit more of an idea of
what he's doing there on earth, even though he's not
an alien anymore.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
So. Gavin and I talked about this, I think a
little bit in one of the old if I'm remembering correctly,
I think one of the Old Casual Heroes where we
talked about the ben Wa murder suicide. Gavin made a
point they're saying, I think that was the episode. Suicide
is one of the most selfish things you can do.

(37:02):
You know, you is a is an act of cowardice
and selfishness because you have no idea what impact you're
gonna have on everybody else, and you're and you don't
seem and seemingly don't care. It is it is. It
is an act of It is a cowardly act of

(37:23):
hurting the people around you. I'm not going to get
into a whole thing here, but i will tell you
that at my worst moments where I was like, just
give me, give me an opportunity and I'm out, the
only reason I stayed around was because I don't want
my kids to grow up with a dad who committed suicide.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
We're not going to go into lengthy discussions about that,
but yeah, I've been on that end too.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
So that's why the stuff with I'm also sorry to
hear that. I that's why the stuff with Darcy affected
me so much because I was like over empathizing with
her character and you know, her feeling listless and lost
and feeling like she's a burden of people. And she's
like she spent a fair amount of the series disappointing people.

(38:12):
You know, she kisses the mayor when she wasn't supposed to.
She's been lying to the mayor and his wife about
the baby. You know, she I can't remember if by
this point she's lost Austa's money.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
That was the catalyst because she lied because Asta says, hey,
I just called the bank the money wasn't deposited, and
she goes, well, that must be a mistake because I
deposited it. And that's what the tipping point for her,
because Austin has always been able to see through her bullshit.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
And I mean, I don't feel like I matter anymore.
I don't matter than one of my life hurts as
much as it does. Why am I still here? But
you know that actress. I did never realize how good
that actress was until that scene, because she plays kind
of a dets but she's really good, and she she

(39:01):
elicits a lot of sympathy and empathy in that one scene.
And it was I you know, I think I wrote
you like I cried during this. Yeah, yeah, it was rough.
I think it was good though. It was because I'll
tell you, like I agreed to do this. I'm a completist.
I like talking to you. This is not that much
of an ask of me. It's not like it's The
West Wing twenty three fucking episodes. So it's like, I'm

(39:24):
not so I wasn't gonna fight you about this, but
I wasn't really looking forward to watching the show or
this podcast for that matter, just because like, I'm kind
of over it now. It was we did it at
a time where, if you'll remember, we were still going
through like COVID Lockdown and whatnot, so I was looking
for stuff to do. I was also reviewing anything that
was even like remotely attached to a comic book. So

(39:45):
here we are.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
But well, you're just stuck with me for only murders
in the building and monsters.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I'm no, and peacemaker oh and peace maker right, there
will always be something You're like the Greek. There's all
the ways more. But my point with bringing all that
up is I was very glad that I that I
saw this through and watched this season because that that
episode and that seen made it all worth.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
It, absolutely, and we found out that souls make a
tasty dipping sauce.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I'm not gonna say the show isn't retarded stupid. At times,
it seems to oscillate between like really great like drama
and really stupid comedy and can't ever seem to find
a pitch.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
It does have some really great jokes. I love this
line from I Think It's It's episode eight, after Ben
and Kate walk in on Max hugging Harry in his
alien form covered an alien goo because he just stabbed
his father, because Harry just stabbed his father to save Max.
And then and we've it's been established that Harry gets

(41:01):
really annoying people don't knock right, And then Austin Darcy
come in and the line is, why do humans have
so many knockdock jokes that they do not knock knock.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I hope, I hope your next husband is Alentudic. I
don't think there's anybody on this planet that you love
more than that man, besides maybe James gunn Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I knew you were gonna say that's last fard. What
can I say? The man's a joy and I will
forever say the world we need more Alentudic and stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Okay, I'm not gonna take that a little bit of
joy from you.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, he's happily married to the woman who choreographed the
Peacemaker dance?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Was he really?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah? We actually talked about this prior because when she
was choreographing it, she couldn't get John Cena for the blocking.
She needed to film it to see how it was
gonna look, so she Alan did it for her. So
somewhere there's a video of Valentine doing the Peacemaker dance
from the opening credit.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I'm sure that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I know, right, like I need to see this. This
easy to be a thing. But again, I think my
favorite thing about the series is that they do really
wrap everything up nicely. Ben and Kate get their their
daughter back. I think I actually before the name Daisy
as opposed to the name Bella, but that made me laugh.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
There was just like like, oh, okay, here's Daisy. You
named your daisy, Like you haven't had the blessing of children.
If you missed off, it really hurts. So like, imagine
being a mom of this baby and like you miss
you know, you missed the opportunity to name her. You
miss these little elements of of you know, infancy or toddlerhood.

(42:43):
So like I really felt bad for Kate. Darcy was
really funnybout It's just like we will tell Mommy, your
name is stupid, and I'll just keep calling you Daisy.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
There is that really touching scene. Darcy thinks she's doing
good by showing the pictures of Bella's first laugh, first
want whatever, and she thinks she's trying to do good.
But Kate is just so messed up that she It's
like it's like I wasn't there for it. I'm seeing photos.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Darcy's line and this should resonate with you based on
some things you've told me. You know, it's just like
the tendency to make everything about her and having to
realize that that is something she needs to work on.
You know. It's one thing to fuck up and realize
you've you've accidentally hurt somebody. That's kind of forgivable for
the most but most people like if you don't know

(43:32):
you're doing it, you know there's no malicious intent, they'll
they'll act accordingly. But after Kate was like, I this
is not working for me. Please go and Darcy. And
Darcy is wallowing in her own rejection. But I was
doing a nice thing and you rejected me, and that's
the real problem here. And that's not the real problem,
you know. And so a scene or two later she realizes, like,

(43:54):
I'm I have to stop making everything about me, you know,
Like I guess it. Darcy goes through Osta, Harry, Darcy,
they all go through really great art. I have to say,
like one of the things I like about Resident Alien,
especially the way that it ended, is it definitely feels
like they took great pains to make sure Harry left
the town and in a better place than he found it,

(44:15):
which is important because without doing that, I think the
show would suck.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Alsa does tell him, she says, you know, the earth
is a better place since you've been here, and it
is really touching when you know they say goodbye, and
all of his friends come out to say goodbye to him.
And I love that he gives the little contactor thing
to Mexico's and it says dial nine first roaming charges
may apply, And he says when he's in the alien makeup,

(44:43):
so it just makes it all the better. Am I
crazier when he was in the alien makeup? Does it
sound like he's more aggressive than when he's out of it?
I never could tell it. It's like, is it just
because I'm seeing the makeup and it's so I think
it sounds more aggressive.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Maybe he might be projecting, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
When he says roaming charges me, it's sounds a little gruffer.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
And maybe they're changing the tone, you know, it is
like a CG thing. I don't think he's in a costume.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I have no idea, although I can't help but think
that Anthony Daniels would be really thrilled if he actually
was in makeup. There's a fun, playful rivalry between those two.
I have heard, Yeah, yeah, you were just in a
mocap suit. You didn't have to get screwed into the robot.

(45:36):
Damn you.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I still say my favorite Anthony Daniels story is them
shooting him in Tunisia and the plates kept falling off
of him.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
My favorite was at Star Wars celebration of the year.
They were announced the year that they popped the trailer
for Rise of Skywalker and he said he had written
his autobiography and he had a title for it, but
the publish said, no, no one's gonna get it, and
he said, look, they picked the other title. I'm not
going to tell you what it is, but I'm going
to tell you what I wanted, and because I need

(46:09):
to know if you guys, if people would have gotten it.
Telling me the odds, everyone blew up laughing, and he
just got this looking was just like thank you, just
had that vindication.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
On his face.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
That's my favorite. Anthony Daniel's memory.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
So there really isn't that much to talk about, Like,
so we talked about the whole thing with the uh oh,
we have Joseph the Gray Hybrid, who apparently was told okay,
now you get to be a little bit more dorky
because you're not working for the Grays anymore and kids
to leave the show to the.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Music to the Hulk.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Oh my god, that was great.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I guess I don't totally understand the internal logic of
the show. I don't understand why he couldn't repair his face.
His earthly form is a costume.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I don't know. I don't know how the human gray
hybrid thing works if it is a costume or if
it's just something with his DNA or because Yeah, I
after that, I was like, well, I guess they don't
know how to, you know, recombobulate their face. Although the
whole scene, I've been trying to talk to them and Asta,

(47:21):
Darcy and Harry saying will you please turn to look
at the kitchen because they didn't want.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
To see that. It was funny like and it's It's
one of those things where I don't think the writers cared.
I don't. I don't think they were, you know, I
think they pretty much thought like, we don't need to.
We want him to keep his massacred, you know, fucking
Fantom of the Opera face, And they're like, okay, but
what is the internal logic? Who fucking cares? Who's who's
watching this show for internal logic?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah? Still cute that he like I said that, he
gets extra goofy. He proposes to Asta to them sleeping together.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
A couple of times I have seen worse. I have to.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
And again, Oh my god, jings Monsoon coming in is
the voice of Bruce, the alien. I've Jake Swontsoon been
is a really great fun actor or actress. I'm actually
not sure what the what they go by, but I
love when they get to have cameos. They do a
lot of voiceover work, so hearing them play Bruce and
just how thrilled they are to be in Vegas Alosia,

(48:25):
just like totally wrapped up in the scarves and everything.
And when the arm falls off, they go, oh, well,
I shouldn't be surprised. My foot fell off in the elevator.
And then we're talking to her. It's like, I know
how you can get your essence back? Why are you whispering?
You're speaking telepathically. I wrote down a ton a ton

(48:46):
of quotes from the season that I absolutely loved. I
also got here that road trip started normal but then
ran into a ditch.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Nice again.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
The comedy writing for the show I think was really good.
I think they had some really good writers on here
to really perk up the humor. So yeah, I really
don't have much else to talk about. I absolutely loved
how it wrapped up. I love the ending. I love
the little clips showing humanity doing good, the reminder that
kindness is what sets us apart. Yeah, that's what we

(49:21):
should strive for. I frankly think that's a lesson, especially nowadays,
that people need to hold on to.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I thought it was a very nice message, no notes,
you know, Like I said, it's a bit of a
lightweight show. For me, it's I'm finding it a little
bit more difficulty stage to go from something as like
The West Wing to this with no in between.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
But uh well, my previous before this was re what
was Stranger Things season one and rewatching Monsters the Lyle
and Eric Menendez story.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
So yes, there's a lot of tonal whiplash on this network. Yeah,
but I'm I just fight myself. It was an enjoyable watch.
I'm not I'm not unhappy we did.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
This absolutely, you know again, it probably should have been
a previous season before what we got for the last season.
I was very impressed. I had a lot of fun
binged it all within two days, because lord knows I
had I was too busy trying to rewatch Stranger Thing
season one for the retrospective, and I you know me,
I can't watch multiple shows at once in other way,

(50:25):
you know.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
You labeled that damn you, Hollywood, and I had to
fix it. I tried to knob all the you that
stuff like you use dashes when I want you to
use colon's and that's like, I'll just fix it and post.
But I but what was going to the thing to
go to put the art up and everything? And I see,
damn you, Hollywood, stranger things.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I'm just like, fucking Alexis what did I do on
the banner?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Or no, that's what you labeled the podcast?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
In all fairness, it was I recorded that the night
before I had to start an eight and a half
hour drive to Colorado, so my brain was probably a
little musha not.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yelling at you. We'll just talk about it your performance review.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Oh great, for the record, If I'm using dashes or
colon's when I'm not supposed to, please let me know.
Because I was actually not under the impression that there
was a law about that that it mattered.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yes, and look, I have been told once or twice
that I've got a little too much attention to detail,
and I'm sorry, propriety these things matter. What is civilization
if we don't attend to the details.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
You renamed me a sacrificial lamb.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
You told me because that's funny and that matters.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I don't really have much else to talk about. I
have my other notes here. It's like, oh, of course
the manted laiden eggs sac because I frankly thought that
was kind of a cliche plot point. And cyborg dad
ex machina.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, I have to say they did do it halfway, decail,
a decent job of creating tension. The scene with live
and I think it's Joseph.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
No, Joseph, I think it's it's Robert Robert where.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
They're outside the egg sack. It was a good scene.
It was done well, all right, So if we're good
to go with a plugs, I will like I can
start go ahead.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah, sorry for the Resident Alien. Was still a great show.
I'm really glad we stuck around for all four seasons.
But frankly, there's not much else to talk about.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
You know, we made it to an hour.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, go check out the finale, the series finale. It's
a lot of fun and we'll just see what a
new show comes on. Then I have to pester Mark
into starting with me, and then that starts a multi
year journey which he doesn't. He never forgives me for
roping them into it.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I may or may not have more time going forward. Anyway.
Sunday we did Baby Metal. There's a strange clicking sound
now whenever we don't go live. I don't understand why.
I don't understand what's causing it, or if it's not
so much the live versus recorded thing that it's the
amount of YouTube pages we have up. I don't know.
But there's a really weird clicking in the in the recording,
and it bothers me. And it's the second time that

(53:10):
that's happened that I can recall. Speaking of clicking, myself
and Robert reviewed night always comes on from Netflix. Hey
have you seen a Netflix movie? Well, then you've seen
this one. Uh. Tomorrow, myself and Mick will be reviewing
Fear Street. Have you seen? I gotta ask you before
I let me finish, but I but I want to

(53:31):
talk about this with you. We're gonna be reviewing Fear Street,
prom Queen the Old Guard to and Fountain of You.
Fuck those other two movies. Who cares prom Queen is
fucking great. It's terrible, but it's great, and I don't
want to give too much away, but there is a
scene where someone gets beheaded and their head goes into
a punch bowl and they don't cancel the prom My

(53:52):
son and I were howling laughing at this, like every
everything that happens from that point, because like at that point,
I was like half involved in the movie, Like there
was stuff going on that night, so my brain was
not totally focused on it, but I wanted to watch
for the podcast I want. Jonas has just watched all
three Fear Street movies, so he was like ready to
go with this, and we're both watching it. We're not

(54:14):
really making a lot of comments, and then we get
to the head and the punch bowl and they don't
cancel the problem and they don't call the cops, and
we were like, that's it. The movie completely lost us.
Have you seen this not yet?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I want to sit down and watch it, but it's
a case of I need to find the time to
sit down and watch a show where it's not for you.
It's very hard to find out. I was like, Okay,
I can actually just sit down and watch us.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
For the help of but it's a ninety minute movie.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Oh, I thought it was a mini series. No, okay, no,
ron I can find time for that.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah. The Fierce, Well the Trilogy are also movies. I
don't remember how long they are, but me, Sean and Ronnie,
what a mess that was? We reviewed those when it
came out back in twenty twenty one, back in the
old days.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Was that before I started on the network. I think
I can't remember. No, oh, twenty twenty one, never mind
I heard, never mind, I was thinking the wrong year,
never mind my bad boy anyway again. Tired, spent all
day yesterday in a car.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I get you, like, there is the reason why I
move around a lot when we record this late.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Yeah, I found out the hard I've got to find
out the hard way.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Though.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
When you drive a much bigger car like I do now,
you get a lot more dead bugs. I could barely
see out my windshield today. When I go run errands.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Monday night, myself and Robert will be doing a triple feature.
There's no movie to review, so Robert and I wanted
to do a couple of triple features doing director focuses.
This one is on Joel Schumacher. We're doing the Lost
Boys falling down an eight milimeter. None of these things
are just like the others. Wednesday, myself and half are

(56:00):
doing an indie Siders. We're looking at Game Changer Wrestling
versus Juggalo Championship Wrestling, the Two Day War because Harry
hates me. And then on Thursday, myself, Shay Sean impossibly
somebody else that Dorian pimped out. We'll be looking at
the Toxic Avenger movies, giving up for the new Toxic
Avenger movie that'll be out the following weekend. So that's

(56:24):
what's going down the old gullet tonight.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Well, this is actually almost the end for a very
very long stretch of work I've been doing for you.
In addition to Damn You, Hollywood's for Superman, Fantastic the
New Fantastic Four, and a couple of Unholy Trinity get
togethers to review together and weapons. I was going over
It's like, wow, okay, so it's like I had, I
know what you did last summer week. After that was

(56:51):
the Bear, then I had we had the Monsters, Lylin
Eric Menendez, and then last week was My Stranger thinks
he'son one retrospective And now has an alien. Then I
was like, oh, I've actually got a little time off now.
So my next the next time we'll be doing a
TV party tonight which I will be helping, is going
to be on September third that we'll be looking at
Twisted Metals season two. Jason Teasley and occasional guest Josh

(57:13):
Theeno and I will be discussing it, looking at it,
and then I don't have anything else until two weeks
after that, in which I will be hosting Robert and
I will be hosting a Dan you Hollywood look at
the Long Walk. This is a new another stement. This
is there are three Stephen King adaptations this year, The Monkey,
The Long Walk, and Running Man. So we're gonna be

(57:37):
doing that, and the night after that, Jesse Starcher is
coming back and we're going to talk Stranger Things season
two as we continue our retrospective one season per month
with the exception of December, and which we will be
looking at Stranger Things meets Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the
graphic novel. Because if if Jesse and I have a weakness,
it is these cheesy as hell crossover comics.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Wait if the Warm Walk.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Uh September sixteenth. Is it Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yep, A right, I already added on but I did
not have was twisted Metal? Do you have anything on
the tenth? Uh? Nope, just the seventeenth.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah, like I said, I was looking right scheduled. The
last two months, I've been going so much for the networks, like, oh,
good break, which is also ironic because for the first
time in ages, I do not have any conventions at September.
This is usually one of our busiest months, and I
looked like, huh, just didn't work out that way. Got
a couple in October and two in November, but other

(58:35):
than that, September is kind of going to be an
easy month for me. Sorry, I need this, uh Like.
So we just wrapped up the Colorado Springs comic cond
We love going out there, had a lot of fun.
I love going out to Colorado Springs, love going hiking.
I don't know if you saw the pictures I posted
of my hike, but I came across like an eight

(58:56):
foot rattlesnake on the hike back, and yeah, just a
little on the terrifying side.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Did Zach protect you with your hero No, Zach wasn't
with me. I was by myself. Oh you right, you
were hiking by yourself.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
We were going to meet up to hike together. The
problem was that he wasn't going to get to Colorado
Springs till close to five thirty, and I realized I
was going to run it a little late because we
also wanted to have dinner, and I knew he wanted
to get on the road before it got too late
and too dark, because he doesn't want to drive from
Colorado Springs back to Denver in the middle of the night.
So we talked to him and said, look, why don't
I just go on my hike, soul, and then we'll

(59:30):
go to dinner afterwards. He was fine with it, and yeah,
coming back, nearly stepped on this giant snake crossing the
trail path step, took two steps back, snapped a photo
so I could plug it into Google AI, because I
was like, what the hell did I nearly step on
prairie rattlesnake? Dear sweet God, And of course you can't
step off the trails, so I am backing up as

(59:52):
far away from this thing as I can.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
It's like, Okay, did it come after you at all? No?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
No, I think it was just it had rained earlier.
I think it was just trying to stretch out on
the paved on the paved part of the trail to
get some sun. It starts turning around. I had my
earbuds in, so I didn't hear it or anything, thankfully, No.
But I will say this as it started, well see

(01:00:17):
as it started to turn around and go back into
the bushes. For the record, I know that this is
a public park a lot, and I know there are
a lot of there's a lot of animals in the
park because there's signs of overplace. Like you see wild
animals just don't bother them, and most of them will
not bother you, right, So I figured the stink is
probably seeing humans. It's just like okay, And I'm like, okay,
you you go back in your bush and I'll go

(01:00:39):
along my way. But I could see the rattle shaking,
like okay, I believe it. You've made your point. I'm
going by.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Like when you're telling the story earlier to somebody, like
when you're kayaking or canoeing down the hills Boa River
and you see the alligators and they're just looking at you.
They have this like menacing gang violence look to just
like just keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, it's like that line from ant Man. It's like, Okay,
you don't sting me, I don't step on you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, So that was a fun experience. Texted the picture
to Andre. He said, don't touch it. I'm like, how
stupid do you think I am? No, seriously, I love
Colora Springs. But yeah, we've got some time off coming
up of gonna be heading to a Galaxy con in

(01:01:30):
Saint Louis in October. That's a big con. Looking forward
to it, trying to figure out if we got into
the Cincinnati Comic Expel because they're not sending me any
info and I'm just like, well, am I in or not? Guys,
because I got to book a freaking hotel. After that
in November, we'll be in the Twin Cities Cone. We
do that one every year, have a lot of fun.
And two weeks after that, we will be doing a

(01:01:51):
show here in our hometown Planet Anime, and that will
be wrapping it up for the convention scene for Honeysuckle
Rows for In the meantime, of course, our shops are
fully stocked. I just got a ton of clue tokens
in so All the Clue items have been completely restocked
on both Etsy in handt at Amazon, and as always,

(01:02:12):
you can find us on Facebook, Instagram, Blue Sky, and TikTok.
That's Honeysuckle Rose Creations, where fashion meats fandom at the
intersection of geek and cheek. There, I did my pays.
I did the plugs that pay me without doing the
Honeysuckle Hustle. There you happy?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Sure, hit it whity.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Robert said I should get the clip of the Honeysuckle
Hustle and put it in as a sound bite and
then hit that every time I start on this, And
I said, no, Mark has never shown me how to
add sound bites because he knows that I can't be
trusted with that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Okay, please take us out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
All right, Thanks a lot for tuning in tonight. Guys,
have a good night.

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