February 21, 2025 • 27 mins
Gary Interviews Lisa Haisha, M.A., Life Coach & Author on this week's episode of Ready Set Live
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hello, I'm Gary Quinn and welcome to another episode of
Ready Set Live. My guest today is Lisa Hasha, an author,
personal coach, television host, world traveler, and motivational speaker. Named
one of the top life coaches to Watch by Entrepreneur magazine,
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Lisa has journeyed to over eighty countries, immersing herself in
diverse cultures, from corporate boardrooms to Bedouin caves and deep
into the heart of the South American jungles. With a
Masters in spiritual psychology, she has transformed her global experiences
into a powerful methodology, which she shares in her best
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selling book Soul Blazing. Don't Go Away, I'll be right
back with Lisa. Welcome to the show. Lisa, thank you.
It's good to see you. Well. You know, you have
such an interesting background. What was basically the catalyst for
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you to start this journey of spirituality or life, let's
say life journeying.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think everything, Gary, starts from childhood wounds. I think
with the thousands of people I've coached, that's where it
all starts. And I grew up with a Middle Eastern
father and an American mother, and he was really strict
and one day he got mad at me and he said,
I'm going to send you to an orphanage, and I'm like,
what is that?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And I have four sisters. I'm like, I'm going to
be sent away?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And that's led me on a journey of thinking. He
was just so protective and he had five daughters within
four years apart. I'm a twin, so he was just
paranoid because he worked so much and he wanted to
protect us. But to me, I took it as what
if the bad guys under our roof? You know, we're
living under a bagdad roof. That's where he was from,
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and the good guys are up there. So that set
me on a journey of hitchhiking and only getting in
the car with like Hell's Angels types and saying why
are you going to hurt me?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Are you going to do this? Are you going to
do that?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Why do you drive this car? Why do you have tattoos?
Why do you have piercings, Why don't you have money?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
My dad told me to fear you.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Why And these people became my angels. Not one of
them hurt me. I did about a half a dozen times,
and they all were just the most interesting kind people
and it changed everything. And I thought that was my
little experiment, and I thought, let me venture out once
I moved away from home at twenty two.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You know, I think everybody has this kind of epiphany
in their lives that at certain ages we have certain
things that happen at home, or we go into a school,
or you know, I know some clients they've put the
we're put in orphanages, or they you know, were sent
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away to boarding school. But I think, you know, instead
of being angry with all that, I think it's just
a matter of looking at the inner self of the growth.
Now all of the things you did. It could be
a movie, yes, you know, but really I think what
captures all this is your book Soul Blazing, really about,
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you know, transforming your life. What concepts And I know
that it's really the concept of impostors syndrome. And what
would be the the the let's say, the the bullet
point of this book. What was the catalyst that you
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wrote this?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, when I was working with clients and I was
married for twenty years, so in the marriage, anytime we'd
have an issue, it was the fact that one of
us was feeling wounded or hurt. You know, something happened
either in our life that day or with each other,
and it's like, what do you do when you're wounded?
You want to hurt somebody else. You know you're hating
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on yourself, You're going to hate on someone else. If
you're loving yourself, you're going to love others. You're going
to have more patients. So I started creating characters for us, saying,
who's coming home and let's see who's available with me,
and we mix and match our different personalities of where
we were and we didn't fight for years. I'm like,
oh my god, there's something here. And I started exploring
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these different characters through my coaching and married couples, and
it was working so well with all of them that
I realized that we all had I've created saboteurs who
live on the stage of our brain that are really
making the decisions for us unconsciously because we didn't clear
out those childhood wounds. So once you actually befriend those
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impostors is what I call them, then you could start
working together and they work for you instead of against you.
So instead of unconsciously thinking I'm just dumb, I'm never
going to make it in life. I'm just dumb. I'm
never going to make money. Nobody in my family had money,
so why would I ever make money? You start getting
rid of those and saying, what's that voice? Oh, that's
my dad talking, that's my mom, that's society. That's what
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I read in these books, and I was indoctrinated in
this type of cult or this kind of hate or
this kind of religion. That you could unravel it then
and say who is that? Then you talk to that
voice when you have that feeling and say, oh, hey mom,
or hey dad, or hey cult leader or hey whoever
it is, that's just you. It's not real, And then
you could start creating your own life who you truly
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are and who you want to be in this world.
And it's changed thousands of lives.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Now, how do you actually identify? Because if you're not
really aware of any kind of growth, or you're in
a bad situation, rut or drama or trauma, how do
you is it just you hit bottom and then you realize, okay,
I need to change.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You don't even have to hit bottom.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You could just look at your life of where you
are today and just ask yourself what's working and what's
not and then keep a journal with you. And when
I meditate, I keep a journal. I did this much
more before than I do now because now I could
do it easier. But you just keep a journal and go,
what thoughts came in my mind? When you're saying let
me just be quiet? You know, your thoughts keep coming
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and go, oh, there's that thought, and you write it down.
You write it down at nighttime when you can't sleep,
what are you thinking about? Write those down. You'll be
surprised at how many things come up there and going
I didn't even know I was thinking about that. And
they say you have forty to seventy thousand thoughts a day.
Most of them are neg and most of them are repeated.
So you're going to start collecting those and saying, I
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am not going to be saying these to myself, and
you do a positive reframe on them, and you just
start saying those positive reframes over and over again. And
exercise I give clients is to look in the mirror
when they wake up and say I love you ten times,
write down five things you're grateful for, and five positive
affirmations based on these negative things, and I swear within
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thirty days, your life will change.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And I know if somebody does a reframe, they really
have to be consistent because there's years of blocks and
sometimes they give up and they go, oh, this doesn't work.
What would be some of the situations that you've seen
clients that you've been able to switch that and have
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them have a breakthrough instead continue to be in the breakdown.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That's so beautifully put.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I found that the clients it works on, including myself,
because I thought, oh, this is bullshit, you know, positive affirmations,
and it took me years to get it. The thing
I was doing wrong was I wasn't believing it. I
did not believe I could actually have money or I
could actually go to you know, travel the world.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Who was I?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I was just this very you know, middle class simple
person who grew up in San Diego, who had no contacts,
no extra money. I moved to La f like two
hundred bucks to my name. So how am I ever
going to go travel the world? Give me a break?
How am I going to ever be a millionaire or
be anything or meet the man of my dreams? Because
the man of my dreams was probably out of my
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reach because the way you vibrate is who you attract,
and you cannot attract someone outside of where you're vibrating.
And I was vibrating at this lower energy of I'm
a victim, poor me. I'm here to be an actor,
but I'll probably never make it because I don't have contacts.
I didn't go to the right schooling. I didn't have
So you're saying this to yourself over and over again,
and a coach that'd say positive affirmations, I'm like, Okay,
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I am an award winning actor.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I am. I'm like, Okay, nothing's happening. It's getting worse.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So I'm getting more depressed. Yes, I'm drinking now.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Now I'm lying to myself on top of it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So now I feel like a liar, and I'm telling people, Oh,
this is going to happen because I say say it
out loud to others, fake it before you. I'm like,
now I'm just a liar like everyone else. Oh, I've
got this movie deal coming, and I've got like, oh stop.
But once you sit with it and say, who is
it that I truly am not my personality, strip your
personality away? Who is my soul? Why am I drawn
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to the arts? Why am I drawn to traveling? Why
am I drawn to cultures? Why did that happen to me?
With my dad, which sent me on a trip to
you Rock to go to an orphanage because that's where
he grew up. So I went to chill Cap and
that's a book that's coming out soon called Under a
Bag Dad Roof, which will be turned into a feature film.
And once I went there and started talking to these kids,
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I'm like, they're worth the same. They lost their family,
they had no you know whatever, the war, my father died,
my uncle lost his leg, this happened, that happened, And
I'm going I have to memorialize your words. And once
I said that, I thought, how am I going to
do that? And that led me on a fifteen country
journey for five years interviewing orphans, which is this book
Whispers from Children's Hearts. I tell their stories in it.
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And then this led to me wanting to live in
Spain and give my daughter that experience for first grade.
Then I gave this book out to people, and then
all these schools and libraries are instead of asking me
to speak, So I became a speaker. Then I became
an author, and then I started coaching people because they're like, oh,
you coach the second graders and fifth graders and this,
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and will you be a mentor? Then that's how soul
blazing came about. So somehow my journey, my life path
of saying I have a gift. I have a unique gift.
And I could believe that because we all have a
unique gift, So why not me? So I have a
unique gift, let me uncover it, Let me unfold it
instead of trying so hard I have to make it,
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let me just be, Let me just be on there.
I don't have to make it. Just showing up every
day is making it. And once you get rid of
that pressure, and you could just say, I am just
being today and I'm going to do three steps towards
what I want. And what I wanted was to feel
more whole and complete. So traveling made me feel that way.
So I started getting these free trips, I started getting
these offers will you do this?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Will you do that? And it's like it just happened, and.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's interesting, you said, which resonates with me, as you
are the gift. And I always tell people over years that,
and I don't think people really realize that they have
anything to give, or they feel so small and like
you said that they didn't have the contacts, they're not
smart enough, or they're this or that, so there's money exactly,
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loads of excuses. Would you find that through your journey
of working with people, what has been their biggest situation
is because they don't love themselves enough, or they don't
believe in themselves or what would be the one capsule
that you would a nugget? You would say that that's
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their issue.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's such a great question, Gary. The nugget I would
say is they have comfort addiction, which is what I teach.
They are addicted to being a victim. They are addicted
to the feeling of trying and failing. Their whole brand
is that, and to separate themselves from that is very painful.
It's more painful than changing. So they would rather be
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in that situation than make the change because that's their brand.
So they actually have to rewire their brain and say
this is more painful than trying to make it, even
if I don't because you've met those people. I just
talked to one this morning who I haven't talked to
for months, but she's a friend of some one of
my daughter's parents, and I want to keep in touch lightly,
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but she's a trauma dump. Every time you talked to her,
I'm like, okay, it's been six months. Let me see
first thing. Oh I haven't talked to you, but I'm like,
oh my god. And I told her, listen, your life
will never change. If this is how you start off conversations,
you're going to push people away. And long story short,
I just gave her a lecture from Love about it,
and she said, oh my god, it's true. I have
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no friends and I'm going to shift that and change that.
And I gave her a few exercises to do. I said,
you're addicted to this pattern. It's been twenty years, and
you know, so you have to say, I want to
change who do I want to be? And make a
list of that. I actually put pictures in my office
of slices that I like, of people like Audrey Hepburn,
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Tracy Chapman, Maya Angelou Herman, hes Dostaevsky, like I like
these aspects of these people and going, let me now
make me who do I want to be?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And I'm starting to step into that each day.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
More and more and more excellent now I believe that.
And you know, I think the most important thing you
said was also to state your I would say, the
intention of what you want in life. But also the
frequency is the secret sauce that if you don't raise
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your consciousness or your energy, like you said, this client
is dumping on you, she's going to attract dump bees.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That's what happened all this time.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
This guy did this to me, this one did that,
this one cheated me. I was evicted from my house,
my neighbor's picking on me, my husband's doing this.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
There you go. And the biggest thing is which I've
found also and you probably see this, is they have
a hard time believing that they could change, or they
really need proof first before they can switch gears.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yes, and there's hundreds of them, thousands out there in
the world, but that I've coached.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And it's like, as soon as you.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Say I'm ready to change, and you start to shift
your vibration, and you do that through meditation, you do
that through nature. Sure, I don't do it all the
time anymore, but I did when I was really saying
I have to change. I walked barefoot on the grass,
I took walks, I hiked and just sat up there
and looked at the vast beauty of our planet. When
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you sit there in trees like I just did, was
up north and was in the forest, you look at
this and say, there is a God, There's something bigger
than me. Why am I focused? I'm like an ant,
I don't even matter. Why aren't I focusing on this?
And you start meditating and then that changes your neuropathways,
and then you start saying your affirmations and that energy
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of your god self. You know, we all are children
of God or nature, whatever caused us to be here.
When you tap into that and say I'm magnificent, I
am the only neither is. Regardless of where you are,
it doesn't matter how much money you have, who your
friends are. What matters is who you are and loving yourself,
because once you switch that, then you could love others
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and you open up abundance in your life. And it's
so hard to get unless you really believe it and say,
let me try for myself. But I swear anyone who
you've met in your life, no one got there by
not loving themselves, and no one got there by not
doing these steps. Every single person has done steps to
better themselves and has focused on I can't be me anymore,
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I'm gonna shift me, and Joe just spends it says
something beautiful like, you have to change your personality to
create a new personal reality. And that's exactly what all
these steps do. They really help you shift your vibration
into a higher form, higher frequency.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Now, if someone and I know there's a lot of
people out there that have this where they switch into
they believe it sometimes and then they don't believe it,
of course, and it's like fifty to fifty, how do
you what would be the one thing you could say
to them? How do you stay in that fifty up
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upscale energy? What would be the main nugget that you
would say you must do this every day.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I'd say what I said earlier, saying that I love
you in the mirror your gratitudes, and I'd say exercise,
because exercise shifts everything. So mind, body, heart, soul. Move
your body, feed your mind, give nourishment to your soul.
And yeah, mind, body, heart, soul love. I send text
messages to people I love you and just say something
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sweet to random people in my circle of friends, just
you know, it's not their birthday or anything. On Christmas,
just I was thinking about you, and that opens up
your heart. You know, if you have children, if you
have parents, whatever, family, just give them love more often.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You could be your last day.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah. I noticed that a lot of people that concentrate
on really working hard and being successful at their craft
or their career, that sometimes their spiritual part is kind
of small or blocked because they haven't found the balance
of that energy yet or they're trying to. But it's
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real interesting to see the thinking that goes through the
business mind work as opposed to someone who's flowing, who's
creative in that energy. You feel a whole shift, whole shift, you.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Know, even people you wouldn't even think.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I remember meeting Alice Cooper back in the day, like
in the eighties. I was dating someone who had the
studio and he was recording and I was sitting with them,
and this is Alice Cooper, who has a batshit you know, reputation,
and he's meditating.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I'm like, what are you doing.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He's I've been vegan for years, like a decade, and
I meditate every day. Then he goes up there araw
Alice Cooper. So he created that character but behind it
is that meeting David Lynch. You think he's wacko. Look
at his movies. He meditates all day long and he
does all this stuff. So I'm like all these people
that you don't even think about Madonna. All these people meditate,
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they exercise, they focus on who am I, and they're
creating this character that is an aspect of them to
present to the world and then they're themselves. But they
can do that because they're so in touch with their
heart and their soul. They know their mission, they know
their purpose. Once you know your purpose and you focus
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on what can I give instead of what can I get?
And most people to answer that question of when they
get stuck, it's because they're saying, I'm not getting enough.
Why aren't I getting the show? Why an't I getting
more money? Where are my friends? How come people aren't
helping me? How come I can't pay my rent? It's
what are you giving? And that was happening to me
in my late twenties. I went to volunteer dot com
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and started volunteering and teaching writing and reading to the
homeless kids, and that helped shift me tremendously because then
I met people through that. Then I got asked to
speak and you know, da da da da da. Same
with this book, going to the orphanage to say why
did my dad.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Say that to me?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Why wasn't I wanted? Let me talk to other kids?
You feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And that led me on a whole journey to everything
I'm doing today. Did I think that no, I was
giving back?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah? Have you found, Lisa, that when you travel to
different countries, that there's a download that you receive, whether
it's karma or you've been there before in another life?
Is there an energy that you go, I've been here
before or you know, I always get that with messages
that I go to these countries. Do you really what's
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been the biggest country or let's say the most powerful
country that you felt, oh wow, there's a download, this
is a huge There could be several, but what was
the top three?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yes, several? Iraq was definitely one of them. Cambodia. I
met someone Scott Neeson, who worked for Spielberg and all
the big movies that were over one hundred million. He
went around the world to average highs and then he
took a vacation. He worked like three hundred and fifty
days a year to Cambodia, and he saw all the
kids there and he quit everything, sold everything, his planes,
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his cars, his house, and started building up an orphanage there.
And I went and stayed there with him, and that
was just like I belong here. I was sleeping on
the linoleum floors with the kids and playing with them
all days, going to the dump sites and carrying hepatitis,
see babies across these fields, and it was just like,
this is home. It was so easy for me. People great,
how could you do? I'm like, how could I not?
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It was easier for me than trying to get a
movie made or going to auditions.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
It was just natural for me.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So there was something there, and I would say, Cuba,
you know, Cuba was just.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I got out of the car at nine pm, met
my sole family right there. This group of guys started
talking with them. Told my husband, I'm going out with
these guys, because what are you doing? We got let's
go Cuba. I'm like, you go do that. I'm with
my families, Like what the hell? So we went out
with these guys, stayed out till four in the morning,
had a blast. A couple days later, when they were
friends with a point of visiness social club, start watching
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them perform in the studio. They going here, everywhere, they
just took There were top musicians there just out of
happened to be And He's like, I've never seen that
in my life. How the bond was there? So there
was something there. It was like mutual that was just
like oh my god. They're like waiting, Hi, you arrive.
It's like, yes, I'm finally here.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
How do you want to be remembered when you leave
this experience.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That I gave people tools and permission to love themselves
enough to make a change in the world and bring
their authentic soul to the party.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What does love mean to you?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It means encompassing everything, every person, every idea, every thought,
every negative, every positive. Everything happens for a reason, and
we're here as spiritual beings having a human experience. It's
even the fires.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I had to load my car.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was frightening and I'm looking at the immense fires,
like two miles away coming. It was like you saw
like dominating the whole sky, and it's like, oh my god,
and you're looking at look at the beauty in that
look at the magnificence, and you're saying whatever happens regardless,
and it's tragic and all of that, and not saying
it's not. But it's what we're supposed to experience right now,
because we are experiencing it right now. So that's a
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part of my journey, whether I like it or not.
And if you embrace it and say, okay, let me grieve.
This is the sorrow, here's the pain, Here are the
people I lost. Here, whatever it is that you did,
I lost my home, I lost everything. But then you
look at it and say, Okay, now, what's the lesson
in it for me?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
What can I teach?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
What can I give back? What can I do? There's
something really powerful in that.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Wow, what does God mean to you?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
God means.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That there's something bigger than us and a reason we're here,
and it's our job to figure that out and be
in touch with our highest selves, our best selves. So
he's always just a reminder the word God that don't
live a small life. Don't think you have you're not worthy,
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that you're not good enough, that you're not attractive enough,
you're not rich enough. Don't don't focus on that, focus
on I am God. And I am a peace of God.
That means I'm magnificent, and start changing those thoughts and
our whole world will start shifting, because it always starts
with you. So if you are God and then you
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treat the next person like God, and they'll treat someone
like God because it has a ripple effect, you know,
the old saying of the husband comes home, mean, then
he beats on his wife, the white beeps on the kids,
the kids beat on their pets, you know, So it's
like it's a trickle down. So if you're just starting
to be the light and everyone's the light around you,
think of what a kind of a world we can have.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And it's interesting that on the back of a dollar
bill it says in God we.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Dress yes, Like, what are you sure about that?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I tell that to a lady in Japan and she goes,
why would they put that on the money? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Last question, if you could go back into time and
ask one question of someone who's not living, who would
it be and what would you ask?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Who would it be?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And what would I ask? It would probably probably be
Herman Hess And the book said Arthur really changed my life,
and I would want to ask what things in his
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life brought him to a place of such genius and
trust in his voice to be so strong and passionate
and I think really shift the world. Because it's still
changing the world today. What was that seed that said,
I am going to create this and get your act
together enough to make it as good as it is,
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to really look at each word that he could change
the world forever. I just think all his books are
so powerful. Narcissist and Goldmand changed my life. I read
them over and over and over again, and it's like,
how many books do that too? Out of all the
books you know, my whole life, those are the ones
I've read in college and they're still affecting me today
and I'm still thinking about them. So the power behind
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the word, how do you get that vibration and keep
it and be brave enough to say it on the
page because it's a lot of you know, not pretty stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Wow. Well, thank you so much now so Ablaze see
you can pick up a copy on Amazon or in
your stores or on your website, and if people want
to get in touch with you on Instagram they can
follow you. Information is up on the board. And thank
you so much Lisa for coming in. It's a pleasure.
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And I know soul blazing is really blazing a lot
of soul. And you also have this yet the mascot ask,
the Seven Masks, and you have me the workbook me.
Oh that's great. The journal h and those are all
on your website and the children's book and so uh,
it's a great pleasure. Keep keep doing what you're doing,
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keep keep keep the flow, and you will continue to glow. Ah.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'm Gary Quinn. Thank you for joining me for this
special episode. Until next time, be well,
Hello, I'm Gary Quinn and welcome to another episode of
Ready Set Live. My guest today is Lisa Hasha, an author,
personal coach, television host, world traveler, and motivational speaker. Named
one of the top life coaches to Watch by Entrepreneur magazine,
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Lisa has journeyed to over eighty countries, immersing herself in
diverse cultures, from corporate boardrooms to Bedouin caves and deep
into the heart of the South American jungles. With a
Masters in spiritual psychology, she has transformed her global experiences
into a powerful methodology, which she shares in her best
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selling book Soul Blazing. Don't Go Away, I'll be right
back with Lisa. Welcome to the show. Lisa, thank you.
It's good to see you. Well. You know, you have
such an interesting background. What was basically the catalyst for
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you to start this journey of spirituality or life, let's
say life journeying.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think everything, Gary, starts from childhood wounds. I think
with the thousands of people I've coached, that's where it
all starts. And I grew up with a Middle Eastern
father and an American mother, and he was really strict
and one day he got mad at me and he said,
I'm going to send you to an orphanage, and I'm like,
what is that?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And I have four sisters. I'm like, I'm going to
be sent away?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And that's led me on a journey of thinking. He
was just so protective and he had five daughters within
four years apart. I'm a twin, so he was just
paranoid because he worked so much and he wanted to
protect us. But to me, I took it as what
if the bad guys under our roof? You know, we're
living under a bagdad roof. That's where he was from,
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and the good guys are up there. So that set
me on a journey of hitchhiking and only getting in
the car with like Hell's Angels types and saying why
are you going to hurt me?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Are you going to do this? Are you going to
do that?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Why do you drive this car? Why do you have tattoos?
Why do you have piercings, Why don't you have money?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
My dad told me to fear you.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Why And these people became my angels. Not one of
them hurt me. I did about a half a dozen times,
and they all were just the most interesting kind people
and it changed everything. And I thought that was my
little experiment, and I thought, let me venture out once
I moved away from home at twenty two.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You know, I think everybody has this kind of epiphany
in their lives that at certain ages we have certain
things that happen at home, or we go into a school,
or you know, I know some clients they've put the
we're put in orphanages, or they you know, were sent
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away to boarding school. But I think, you know, instead
of being angry with all that, I think it's just
a matter of looking at the inner self of the growth.
Now all of the things you did. It could be
a movie, yes, you know, but really I think what
captures all this is your book Soul Blazing, really about,
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you know, transforming your life. What concepts And I know
that it's really the concept of impostors syndrome. And what
would be the the the let's say, the the bullet
point of this book. What was the catalyst that you
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wrote this?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, when I was working with clients and I was
married for twenty years, so in the marriage, anytime we'd
have an issue, it was the fact that one of
us was feeling wounded or hurt. You know, something happened
either in our life that day or with each other,
and it's like, what do you do when you're wounded?
You want to hurt somebody else. You know you're hating
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on yourself, You're going to hate on someone else. If
you're loving yourself, you're going to love others. You're going
to have more patients. So I started creating characters for us, saying,
who's coming home and let's see who's available with me,
and we mix and match our different personalities of where
we were and we didn't fight for years. I'm like,
oh my god, there's something here. And I started exploring
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these different characters through my coaching and married couples, and
it was working so well with all of them that
I realized that we all had I've created saboteurs who
live on the stage of our brain that are really
making the decisions for us unconsciously because we didn't clear
out those childhood wounds. So once you actually befriend those
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impostors is what I call them, then you could start
working together and they work for you instead of against you.
So instead of unconsciously thinking I'm just dumb, I'm never
going to make it in life. I'm just dumb. I'm
never going to make money. Nobody in my family had money,
so why would I ever make money? You start getting
rid of those and saying, what's that voice? Oh, that's
my dad talking, that's my mom, that's society. That's what
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I read in these books, and I was indoctrinated in
this type of cult or this kind of hate or
this kind of religion. That you could unravel it then
and say who is that? Then you talk to that
voice when you have that feeling and say, oh, hey mom,
or hey dad, or hey cult leader or hey whoever
it is, that's just you. It's not real, And then
you could start creating your own life who you truly
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are and who you want to be in this world.
And it's changed thousands of lives.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Now, how do you actually identify? Because if you're not
really aware of any kind of growth, or you're in
a bad situation, rut or drama or trauma, how do
you is it just you hit bottom and then you realize, okay,
I need to change.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You don't even have to hit bottom.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
You could just look at your life of where you
are today and just ask yourself what's working and what's
not and then keep a journal with you. And when
I meditate, I keep a journal. I did this much
more before than I do now because now I could
do it easier. But you just keep a journal and go,
what thoughts came in my mind? When you're saying let
me just be quiet? You know, your thoughts keep coming
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and go, oh, there's that thought, and you write it down.
You write it down at nighttime when you can't sleep,
what are you thinking about? Write those down. You'll be
surprised at how many things come up there and going
I didn't even know I was thinking about that. And
they say you have forty to seventy thousand thoughts a day.
Most of them are neg and most of them are repeated.
So you're going to start collecting those and saying, I
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am not going to be saying these to myself, and
you do a positive reframe on them, and you just
start saying those positive reframes over and over again. And
exercise I give clients is to look in the mirror
when they wake up and say I love you ten times,
write down five things you're grateful for, and five positive
affirmations based on these negative things, and I swear within
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thirty days, your life will change.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And I know if somebody does a reframe, they really
have to be consistent because there's years of blocks and
sometimes they give up and they go, oh, this doesn't work.
What would be some of the situations that you've seen
clients that you've been able to switch that and have
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them have a breakthrough instead continue to be in the breakdown.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That's so beautifully put.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I found that the clients it works on, including myself,
because I thought, oh, this is bullshit, you know, positive affirmations,
and it took me years to get it. The thing
I was doing wrong was I wasn't believing it. I
did not believe I could actually have money or I
could actually go to you know, travel the world.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Who was I?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I was just this very you know, middle class simple
person who grew up in San Diego, who had no contacts,
no extra money. I moved to La f like two
hundred bucks to my name. So how am I ever
going to go travel the world? Give me a break?
How am I going to ever be a millionaire or
be anything or meet the man of my dreams? Because
the man of my dreams was probably out of my
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reach because the way you vibrate is who you attract,
and you cannot attract someone outside of where you're vibrating.
And I was vibrating at this lower energy of I'm
a victim, poor me. I'm here to be an actor,
but I'll probably never make it because I don't have contacts.
I didn't go to the right schooling. I didn't have
So you're saying this to yourself over and over again,
and a coach that'd say positive affirmations, I'm like, Okay,
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I am an award winning actor.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I am. I'm like, Okay, nothing's happening. It's getting worse.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So I'm getting more depressed. Yes, I'm drinking now.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Now I'm lying to myself on top of it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So now I feel like a liar, and I'm telling people, Oh,
this is going to happen because I say say it
out loud to others, fake it before you. I'm like,
now I'm just a liar like everyone else. Oh, I've
got this movie deal coming, and I've got like, oh stop.
But once you sit with it and say, who is
it that I truly am not my personality, strip your
personality away? Who is my soul? Why am I drawn
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to the arts? Why am I drawn to traveling? Why
am I drawn to cultures? Why did that happen to me?
With my dad, which sent me on a trip to
you Rock to go to an orphanage because that's where
he grew up. So I went to chill Cap and
that's a book that's coming out soon called Under a
Bag Dad Roof, which will be turned into a feature film.
And once I went there and started talking to these kids,
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I'm like, they're worth the same. They lost their family,
they had no you know whatever, the war, my father died,
my uncle lost his leg, this happened, that happened, And
I'm going I have to memorialize your words. And once
I said that, I thought, how am I going to
do that? And that led me on a fifteen country
journey for five years interviewing orphans, which is this book
Whispers from Children's Hearts. I tell their stories in it.
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And then this led to me wanting to live in
Spain and give my daughter that experience for first grade.
Then I gave this book out to people, and then
all these schools and libraries are instead of asking me
to speak, So I became a speaker. Then I became
an author, and then I started coaching people because they're like, oh,
you coach the second graders and fifth graders and this,
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and will you be a mentor? Then that's how soul
blazing came about. So somehow my journey, my life path
of saying I have a gift. I have a unique gift.
And I could believe that because we all have a
unique gift, So why not me? So I have a
unique gift, let me uncover it, Let me unfold it
instead of trying so hard I have to make it,
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let me just be, Let me just be on there.
I don't have to make it. Just showing up every
day is making it. And once you get rid of
that pressure, and you could just say, I am just
being today and I'm going to do three steps towards
what I want. And what I wanted was to feel
more whole and complete. So traveling made me feel that way.
So I started getting these free trips, I started getting
these offers will you do this?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Will you do that? And it's like it just happened, and.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's interesting, you said, which resonates with me, as you
are the gift. And I always tell people over years that,
and I don't think people really realize that they have
anything to give, or they feel so small and like
you said that they didn't have the contacts, they're not
smart enough, or they're this or that, so there's money exactly,
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loads of excuses. Would you find that through your journey
of working with people, what has been their biggest situation
is because they don't love themselves enough, or they don't
believe in themselves or what would be the one capsule
that you would a nugget? You would say that that's
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their issue.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's such a great question, Gary. The nugget I would
say is they have comfort addiction, which is what I teach.
They are addicted to being a victim. They are addicted
to the feeling of trying and failing. Their whole brand
is that, and to separate themselves from that is very painful.
It's more painful than changing. So they would rather be
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in that situation than make the change because that's their brand.
So they actually have to rewire their brain and say
this is more painful than trying to make it, even
if I don't because you've met those people. I just
talked to one this morning who I haven't talked to
for months, but she's a friend of some one of
my daughter's parents, and I want to keep in touch lightly,
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but she's a trauma dump. Every time you talked to her,
I'm like, okay, it's been six months. Let me see
first thing. Oh I haven't talked to you, but I'm like,
oh my god. And I told her, listen, your life
will never change. If this is how you start off conversations,
you're going to push people away. And long story short,
I just gave her a lecture from Love about it,
and she said, oh my god, it's true. I have
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no friends and I'm going to shift that and change that.
And I gave her a few exercises to do. I said,
you're addicted to this pattern. It's been twenty years, and
you know, so you have to say, I want to
change who do I want to be? And make a
list of that. I actually put pictures in my office
of slices that I like, of people like Audrey Hepburn,
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Tracy Chapman, Maya Angelou Herman, hes Dostaevsky, like I like
these aspects of these people and going, let me now
make me who do I want to be?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And I'm starting to step into that each day.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
More and more and more excellent now I believe that.
And you know, I think the most important thing you
said was also to state your I would say, the
intention of what you want in life. But also the
frequency is the secret sauce that if you don't raise
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your consciousness or your energy, like you said, this client
is dumping on you, she's going to attract dump bees.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That's what happened all this time.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
This guy did this to me, this one did that,
this one cheated me. I was evicted from my house,
my neighbor's picking on me, my husband's doing this.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
There you go. And the biggest thing is which I've
found also and you probably see this, is they have
a hard time believing that they could change, or they
really need proof first before they can switch gears.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yes, and there's hundreds of them, thousands out there in
the world, but that I've coached.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And it's like, as soon as you.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Say I'm ready to change, and you start to shift
your vibration, and you do that through meditation, you do
that through nature. Sure, I don't do it all the
time anymore, but I did when I was really saying
I have to change. I walked barefoot on the grass,
I took walks, I hiked and just sat up there
and looked at the vast beauty of our planet. When
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you sit there in trees like I just did, was
up north and was in the forest, you look at
this and say, there is a God, There's something bigger
than me. Why am I focused? I'm like an ant,
I don't even matter. Why aren't I focusing on this?
And you start meditating and then that changes your neuropathways,
and then you start saying your affirmations and that energy
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of your god self. You know, we all are children
of God or nature, whatever caused us to be here.
When you tap into that and say I'm magnificent, I
am the only neither is. Regardless of where you are,
it doesn't matter how much money you have, who your
friends are. What matters is who you are and loving yourself,
because once you switch that, then you could love others
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and you open up abundance in your life. And it's
so hard to get unless you really believe it and say,
let me try for myself. But I swear anyone who
you've met in your life, no one got there by
not loving themselves, and no one got there by not
doing these steps. Every single person has done steps to
better themselves and has focused on I can't be me anymore,
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I'm gonna shift me, and Joe just spends it says
something beautiful like, you have to change your personality to
create a new personal reality. And that's exactly what all
these steps do. They really help you shift your vibration
into a higher form, higher frequency.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Now, if someone and I know there's a lot of
people out there that have this where they switch into
they believe it sometimes and then they don't believe it,
of course, and it's like fifty to fifty, how do
you what would be the one thing you could say
to them? How do you stay in that fifty up
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upscale energy? What would be the main nugget that you
would say you must do this every day.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I'd say what I said earlier, saying that I love
you in the mirror your gratitudes, and I'd say exercise,
because exercise shifts everything. So mind, body, heart, soul. Move
your body, feed your mind, give nourishment to your soul.
And yeah, mind, body, heart, soul love. I send text
messages to people I love you and just say something
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sweet to random people in my circle of friends, just
you know, it's not their birthday or anything. On Christmas,
just I was thinking about you, and that opens up
your heart. You know, if you have children, if you
have parents, whatever, family, just give them love more often.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You could be your last day.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah. I noticed that a lot of people that concentrate
on really working hard and being successful at their craft
or their career, that sometimes their spiritual part is kind
of small or blocked because they haven't found the balance
of that energy yet or they're trying to. But it's
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real interesting to see the thinking that goes through the
business mind work as opposed to someone who's flowing, who's
creative in that energy. You feel a whole shift, whole shift, you.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Know, even people you wouldn't even think.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I remember meeting Alice Cooper back in the day, like
in the eighties. I was dating someone who had the
studio and he was recording and I was sitting with them,
and this is Alice Cooper, who has a batshit you know, reputation,
and he's meditating.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I'm like, what are you doing.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He's I've been vegan for years, like a decade, and
I meditate every day. Then he goes up there araw
Alice Cooper. So he created that character but behind it
is that meeting David Lynch. You think he's wacko. Look
at his movies. He meditates all day long and he
does all this stuff. So I'm like all these people
that you don't even think about Madonna. All these people meditate,
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they exercise, they focus on who am I, and they're
creating this character that is an aspect of them to
present to the world and then they're themselves. But they
can do that because they're so in touch with their
heart and their soul. They know their mission, they know
their purpose. Once you know your purpose and you focus
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on what can I give instead of what can I get?
And most people to answer that question of when they
get stuck, it's because they're saying, I'm not getting enough.
Why aren't I getting the show? Why an't I getting
more money? Where are my friends? How come people aren't
helping me? How come I can't pay my rent? It's
what are you giving? And that was happening to me
in my late twenties. I went to volunteer dot com
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and started volunteering and teaching writing and reading to the
homeless kids, and that helped shift me tremendously because then
I met people through that. Then I got asked to
speak and you know, da da da da da. Same
with this book, going to the orphanage to say why
did my dad.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Say that to me?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Why wasn't I wanted? Let me talk to other kids?
You feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And that led me on a whole journey to everything
I'm doing today. Did I think that no, I was
giving back?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah? Have you found, Lisa, that when you travel to
different countries, that there's a download that you receive, whether
it's karma or you've been there before in another life?
Is there an energy that you go, I've been here
before or you know, I always get that with messages
that I go to these countries. Do you really what's
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been the biggest country or let's say the most powerful
country that you felt, oh wow, there's a download, this
is a huge There could be several, but what was
the top three?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yes, several? Iraq was definitely one of them. Cambodia. I
met someone Scott Neeson, who worked for Spielberg and all
the big movies that were over one hundred million. He
went around the world to average highs and then he
took a vacation. He worked like three hundred and fifty
days a year to Cambodia, and he saw all the
kids there and he quit everything, sold everything, his planes,
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his cars, his house, and started building up an orphanage there.
And I went and stayed there with him, and that
was just like I belong here. I was sleeping on
the linoleum floors with the kids and playing with them
all days, going to the dump sites and carrying hepatitis,
see babies across these fields, and it was just like,
this is home. It was so easy for me. People great,
how could you do? I'm like, how could I not?
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It was easier for me than trying to get a
movie made or going to auditions.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
It was just natural for me.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So there was something there, and I would say, Cuba,
you know, Cuba was just.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I got out of the car at nine pm, met
my sole family right there. This group of guys started
talking with them. Told my husband, I'm going out with
these guys, because what are you doing? We got let's
go Cuba. I'm like, you go do that. I'm with
my families, Like what the hell? So we went out
with these guys, stayed out till four in the morning,
had a blast. A couple days later, when they were
friends with a point of visiness social club, start watching
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them perform in the studio. They going here, everywhere, they
just took There were top musicians there just out of
happened to be And He's like, I've never seen that
in my life. How the bond was there? So there
was something there. It was like mutual that was just
like oh my god. They're like waiting, Hi, you arrive.
It's like, yes, I'm finally here.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
How do you want to be remembered when you leave
this experience.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That I gave people tools and permission to love themselves
enough to make a change in the world and bring
their authentic soul to the party.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What does love mean to you?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It means encompassing everything, every person, every idea, every thought,
every negative, every positive. Everything happens for a reason, and
we're here as spiritual beings having a human experience. It's
even the fires.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I had to load my car.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was frightening and I'm looking at the immense fires,
like two miles away coming. It was like you saw
like dominating the whole sky, and it's like, oh my god,
and you're looking at look at the beauty in that
look at the magnificence, and you're saying whatever happens regardless,
and it's tragic and all of that, and not saying
it's not. But it's what we're supposed to experience right now,
because we are experiencing it right now. So that's a
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part of my journey, whether I like it or not.
And if you embrace it and say, okay, let me grieve.
This is the sorrow, here's the pain, Here are the
people I lost. Here, whatever it is that you did,
I lost my home, I lost everything. But then you
look at it and say, Okay, now, what's the lesson
in it for me?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
What can I teach?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
What can I give back? What can I do? There's
something really powerful in that.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Wow, what does God mean to you?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
God means.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That there's something bigger than us and a reason we're here,
and it's our job to figure that out and be
in touch with our highest selves, our best selves. So
he's always just a reminder the word God that don't
live a small life. Don't think you have you're not worthy,
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that you're not good enough, that you're not attractive enough,
you're not rich enough. Don't don't focus on that, focus
on I am God. And I am a peace of God.
That means I'm magnificent, and start changing those thoughts and
our whole world will start shifting, because it always starts
with you. So if you are God and then you
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treat the next person like God, and they'll treat someone
like God because it has a ripple effect, you know,
the old saying of the husband comes home, mean, then
he beats on his wife, the white beeps on the kids,
the kids beat on their pets, you know, So it's
like it's a trickle down. So if you're just starting
to be the light and everyone's the light around you,
think of what a kind of a world we can have.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And it's interesting that on the back of a dollar
bill it says in God we.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Dress yes, Like, what are you sure about that?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I tell that to a lady in Japan and she goes,
why would they put that on the money? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Last question, if you could go back into time and
ask one question of someone who's not living, who would
it be and what would you ask?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Who would it be?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And what would I ask? It would probably probably be
Herman Hess And the book said Arthur really changed my life,
and I would want to ask what things in his
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life brought him to a place of such genius and
trust in his voice to be so strong and passionate
and I think really shift the world. Because it's still
changing the world today. What was that seed that said,
I am going to create this and get your act
together enough to make it as good as it is,
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to really look at each word that he could change
the world forever. I just think all his books are
so powerful. Narcissist and Goldmand changed my life. I read
them over and over and over again, and it's like,
how many books do that too? Out of all the
books you know, my whole life, those are the ones
I've read in college and they're still affecting me today
and I'm still thinking about them. So the power behind
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the word, how do you get that vibration and keep
it and be brave enough to say it on the
page because it's a lot of you know, not pretty stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Wow. Well, thank you so much now so Ablaze see
you can pick up a copy on Amazon or in
your stores or on your website, and if people want
to get in touch with you on Instagram they can
follow you. Information is up on the board. And thank
you so much Lisa for coming in. It's a pleasure.
(27:18):
And I know soul blazing is really blazing a lot
of soul. And you also have this yet the mascot ask,
the Seven Masks, and you have me the workbook me.
Oh that's great. The journal h and those are all
on your website and the children's book and so uh,
it's a great pleasure. Keep keep doing what you're doing,
(27:42):
keep keep keep the flow, and you will continue to glow. Ah.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'm Gary Quinn. Thank you for joining me for this
special episode. Until next time, be well,
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