September 23, 2024 • 30 mins
This week on BOSS Radio, we had the pleasure of diving deep into the world of reggae and hip-hop with none other than South African multi-platinum artist Don Dada. His latest project, the double album "The Heart & The Mind," is making waves globally and touching on issues that resonate with listeners from all walks of life.
During our interview, we discussed three standout tracks from the album: Rise Up, Blessings, and Memories. Each song encapsulates a unique aspect of Don Dada’s musical philosophy—whether it’s pushing through life’s struggles, recognizing the blessings around us, or reflecting on the power of memory. These songs speak directly to the heart and mind, a perfect reflection of the album’s theme.
But the conversation went beyond music. Don Dada and I touched on pressing issues, like the ongoing battle over public access to Bob Marley Beach in Jamaica, and similar struggles over land rights in South Africa. The artist’s perspective on the global impact of these struggles added depth to our discussion, showing how his music is not only a call to action but a representation of the world’s current climate.
The Heart & The Mind is a two-disc masterpiece: one disc is packed with reggae and dancehall vibes that uplift the spirit, while the other disc delves into hip-hop, tackling societal challenges head-on. This album perfectly captures the duality of the human experience—the emotional and the intellectual.
If you haven’t already, now’s the time to stream this powerful album. As Don Dada said in the interview, “clear some time and take in the full journey.” You won’t regret it!
Stream "The Heart & The Mind" on the following platforms:
Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/album/79YhNpYYrUxE17qtDhbbDJ
Apple Music(Apple Music - Web Player)- https://music.apple.com/us/album/rise-up/1761338875?i=1761338879
TIDAL(Tidal)- https://tidal.com/browse/album/379603649
Amazon Music-https://music.amazon.com/artists/B00BIXJYAK/don-dada
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During our interview, we discussed three standout tracks from the album: Rise Up, Blessings, and Memories. Each song encapsulates a unique aspect of Don Dada’s musical philosophy—whether it’s pushing through life’s struggles, recognizing the blessings around us, or reflecting on the power of memory. These songs speak directly to the heart and mind, a perfect reflection of the album’s theme.
But the conversation went beyond music. Don Dada and I touched on pressing issues, like the ongoing battle over public access to Bob Marley Beach in Jamaica, and similar struggles over land rights in South Africa. The artist’s perspective on the global impact of these struggles added depth to our discussion, showing how his music is not only a call to action but a representation of the world’s current climate.
The Heart & The Mind is a two-disc masterpiece: one disc is packed with reggae and dancehall vibes that uplift the spirit, while the other disc delves into hip-hop, tackling societal challenges head-on. This album perfectly captures the duality of the human experience—the emotional and the intellectual.
If you haven’t already, now’s the time to stream this powerful album. As Don Dada said in the interview, “clear some time and take in the full journey.” You won’t regret it!
Stream "The Heart & The Mind" on the following platforms:
Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/album/79YhNpYYrUxE17qtDhbbDJ
Apple Music(Apple Music - Web Player)- https://music.apple.com/us/album/rise-up/1761338875?i=1761338879
TIDAL(Tidal)- https://tidal.com/browse/album/379603649
Amazon Music-https://music.amazon.com/artists/B00BIXJYAK/don-dada
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reggae-hour--2646280/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's good.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Everybody is your boy, mister e Boss of the south Side.
Boss is coming to y'all once again on Reggae IURL
with the multi platinum mart Is Done Datta representing South Africa.
How you doing today, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm blessed them well, thank you so much for having
me back on the show BOS Radio. When I say,
it's a beautiful thing, mister ev of yourself, pig up
to all the listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm back baby boom.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yes, sir, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Every time we have you on, it's always an event,
and I'm just so glad we was able to get
in touch at you because you know, it's been a
lot that's going on in this world, and your music
has always been a key is actually going going.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
In this world.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So whenever it's come to these these social issues or
social injustices, always love to get your take on them.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So I hope you ready for it. I'm always ready.
It's always great conversation with you.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So it's a good vibe, good times, entertainment, education, Let's
get it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's what's well? First link us in. What have you
been into since the last time we talked to you.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh man, there's been so much that's been going on.
So I think the last time we spoke, a Rise
Up was just released and it was sitting at number
one or so on the Caribbean VIP playlist charts.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Arise Up as since then dropped to number four.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And I have a new song that actually debuted number
one entitled Fire and Water, so that's a beautiful thing.
I've also released the double album that I've been I've
been talking about and been just preparing people for the
Heart in the Mind. That's dropped as well about a
week ago. So that's a beautiful, beautiful vibe. And as
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well as during that whole period, we lost such an
icon in South Africa, it's Jessica and Buy so.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We were planning a memorial.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
We did a memorial tour and later to rest and
paid our our tributes to her, and then Jamaica as
well paid tribute to her, which was a beautiful thing.
And yeah, now I'm back on on trail to promote
the album. So you've you've met me just a week
after all of that, so it's it's been a crazy
turnout events. But John Guy didn't protect and bless I'm
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here talking to you now.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yes, sir, he has been playing Joah has placed you
on a path of straight motivation and when we watch you,
we see nothing but inspiration and we just want to
ask you to keep that going, man for real. But
before we get into the meat and potatoes, tell us
about the Heart and the Mind. Tell us about your
double album. Tell us about where we can listen to
(02:48):
it at because I heard it is fire.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much so the
Heart of the Mind. It's been a.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I've been working on for quite a while.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You could you could call it a passion project, you know,
something that I feel very deeply about. It's a double
disc album, one disc reggae, one disc hip hop. And
then it's it's it's really, you know, putting reggae as
as the hearts, because I see reggae as being so spiritual,
so something that touches the heart, the hearts and the
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souls and spirits of people, and put in hip hop
as the mind because hip hop got that commercialism, it's
got that catchiness to it. So you know, I've got
a whole lot of different things going on with it.
And it's it's a beautiful album. I mean We've got
vernacular languages of South Africa in it. We've got Twana, Zulu,
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We've got so many good vibes show or not, coming
all the way from Zimbabwe.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So it's it's it's beautiful. So please check it out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And to check it out, all you got to do
is go check out any of your favorites through streaming platforms,
whether it's Spotify or dizzer or whatever you prefer. It's
also an iTunes music so you can also check it
out there any digital platform. The Heart in the Mind
is available.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, that's what's up man, And come, I'm telling y'all
I'm vouching for this. Definitely go listen to it. It
is definitely something that you want to put on without
hitting that skill button. You ain't eve gonna be thinking
about that skip button. Trust me, you're gonna want to
hear every last track on it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Really that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Now you were saying South Africa just lost the icon.
Can you give us a little bit more information?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You know, I'm talking about my sister sis Jessica, and
get me a musical sister.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
We've got three songs that we've recorded together.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Love is a universal language, Unity and spirits of Africa
and what a beautiful socials. And in Bunkie Pray's Poets,
she did a poetry and a mix off of English
and it's for us, which is a beautiful language from
the Eastern Cape where she came.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And then she had just such a powerful, beautiful spirit.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And not only that, but she was a person that
a praise poetry was used to open up ceremonies. So
not only in South Africa, but on occasion she had
gone and opened up the New York Stock Exchange.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
She was also known in Jamaica quite as well.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Therefore they had done a memorial and a tribute to
her on a passing as well as across the African continent.
So quite a powerful figure, a community leader, a leader,
and a star wars of poetry. So South Africa has
definitely lost an icon man.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And it's always it's always hurtful when we lose these
staples in our community. But one thing we can always
agree on is that they will always be alive with
the work that they left us. And we'll talk a
little bit more about that soon as we come back
from a word for one of our sponsors.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Very true, very true, I say this very often, and
that as long as the music is played, a poetry
has played her videos that played the spirits a little
piece of hers right there for us to watch and
to fill her presence again. So although we've lost her,
we've not lost her entirely. So at least we can
go and listen back, and I believe with people to
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go and listen back because she was so powerful and
she had such a strong message to be heard.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So it's something that you should listen to over and over.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right, And what kind of memorial are you're planning or
have planned for her?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, we've already done the memorial. She's she's been laid
to rest. We've actually done three memorials. So we had
one at the National Theater in Johannesburg where we did
performances with the family and some speeches and just just
the moment for the fans and for the family to
get together and reflect on who Susjessica was. Then there
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was a second, a second memorial that followed that up
that was done in Jamaica with performances and also speeches
by people such as.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Out of Bread Locks and the like.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So it was a beautiful, beautiful moment and quite a
touching moment to see Jamaica is so impacted by Susjessica's work.
And then of course she was laid to rest on Saturday,
so the final final actor, the final funeral and memorial
was done on Saturday. So it was quite a long process,
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but a beautiful process for someone who had given their
all to the nation. So just a beautiful but sad
and hard thing to see.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, and it sounds like she was a beautiful soul
with some great works. We're definitely going to check that out.
If you haven't already checked that out, make sure y'all
check that out. We're going to get all the information
from don Data on how you can listen to music
and make sure that y'all have that available to y'all asam.
So make sure y'all tune in to turn up for
that already. So right now that you got the new
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double album out and we know you're going to be
hitting a row, hitting the do tour soon where you
plan on going.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
First after so much that's going on around this double album.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So it actually kicks off quite soon on the twenty eighth,
twenty ninth. I'm doing a festival right Ja in job
at the Main and Masanzi Festival. We're following that up
in October in Ghana, so that's also going to be
something amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And then of course there's the Coconut Africa.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Foundation in Kenya that we want to go through and
and performance. And then also on the twenty eighth of September,
we're doing a benefit concert before I Forget for the
kids in so it Or with pressure bus pipes, so
that's going to be something beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And then February is Jamaica and Reggie Month.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So we're hoping to be across in Jamaica and performing
on on platforms for the entirety of the month.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Oh wow, that's see now you got that's what. And
it's all sounds like it's going to be all on
the continent, the African continent, right.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah yeah, So of course, like I'm saying, we
came off in the African continent, but we'll be ending
in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And for me, I see the Caribbean as as.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like the fifth district of a Boys in the sixth district,
I think it's the sixth district.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Of Africa, you know, right, So it's it's home for me.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I love it every time I go. So I can't wait.
Then I know reay a month. It's just a beautiful,
vibrant time. So I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Man, that's beautiful right there. And now you know what
we're going to be moving around it. That's how so
we may catch you in the Caribbean. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I hope so, I hope so.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I think there will be quite an epic occasion if
we can link that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You already know it is. It's always going to be
a blessed time. Blessed time already. So tell us what's
going on in South Africa right now? It's like living
wise there because we know if anybody knows didn't think
about Africa, they know that, they're about the history of apartheid,
they know about Nelson Mandela, they know about pretty much,
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especially with the with the Israeli Palestine War. How a
lot of atrocity that was committed over there was relative
was related to the atrocities that was committed in Africa
South African history. Like what is the atmosphere like now
when you're walking around the country, when you're talking to
the people there, How does people feel.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I mean, I would say that it's it's it's you
know so well, firstly, I would start off by mentioning
that South Africa stood up at the World Court term
to bring the Israel in for the crimes that they're
committed in Palestine and call and end to the called
a ceasefire, not an end but cause call of fire
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between both sides. So South Africa has been standing up
again and standing for the Palestinians and standing up against
a lot of injustices that have been happening across the world.
But as I'm looking at South Africa a nation as
we are today, you know, it's been quite a normal day.
I think, you know, a normal day in relative to
the world. And when you look at the world scale,
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you're looking at cost of living crisises that people are
going through. We're going through it here as well. You know,
the average, the average. I think South Africa as well,
if you look at it, are in terms of Africa.
South Africa is a person world country. So the problems
that we suffer in South Africa are.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
More more first.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
World problems than the problems that you counter in deeper Africa.
Not not to say that there's no unemployment or housing
problems or problems with water supplies and so on and
so forth.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But I think that when you look at the average
person on the.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Streets, it's it's you know, it's a day to day
struggle to get by a type of atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
People are concentrated on making a living right now.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, so you can say the changes is on the cusps,
like we got to be able to make some kind
of a change, or that people can start living, start
living again, Like it's it's I'm getting the same narrative
around the world, especially with our with the Pan African movement.
It seems like we're hardly living in it. But we
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keep his smiles on our face and we're still celebrating
when we can. But it seems like the celebrations are
becoming to be starting to be a little far and
few in between. Is that the same atmosphere that you're
feeling out there?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I can agree with that. I can agree with that.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You know, African life is also quite centered around family life.
You know, we value family time and that you know,
I think all the working and everything that people do,
they do it in order to spend more time with
the family.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Or to provide for the family.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
So since lockdown had been lifted, and I think it's
something that happened.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Across the world, we've got to a kind of a reset.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
When you look at businesses, and especially when you look
at the realm of entrepreneurs, it's become a very volatile
playground where a lot of people who were starting out
or had just become established or even established.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Ones got wiped away.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So a lot of people are really trying to find
their feed, to get in and you know, just just survive.
I guess it's a crazy world that we're living in.
But with that also being said, there is a lot
of reasons as well to celebrate. I mean, just waking
up in the morning is a reason to celebrate, having
some food on the table, there's a reason to celebrate. Yeah,
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God is good, Jah is good. You know, these are
things that we must never forget. And expressionally, when you're
you're feeling like the climate is something that's so heavy
and so down, I think those are the things.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That can lift you up.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Just the word and the thoughts and the prayers to jump.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Right and with the ba said, with the heart in
the mind. You always touch on social issues that I
have yet to hear music from you where you're not
touching on reality that I know you are based in reality.
What are some of those realities that you actually cover
in your new album.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, you know, there's so many different things I'm looking
at this inspiration. I'm talking about being resilient, the songs
that are addressing depression, so many things that especially have
been playing in the music industry of late, especially here
in South Africa. You know, there's been a lot of
deaths that have happened in the last couple of months,
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you could say, in the last couple of years, so
it's been quite a somber atmosphere and so I'm addressing it,
but I'm addressing it in a musical way, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So it's quite.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
A diverse album if you look at it, and especially
when you look at songs like rise Up, which is
included on the album. Rise Up is talking back to
giving praise and giving thanks for everything that you get.
The songs such as Blessings where I'm saying that that
Jack keeps his hands upon us through the fire, through
the storm. They can never do us harm because Jack
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Keeper's hand partners to protect us, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So there's there's there's praises, there's chance, it's it's it's.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Quite a strong, powerful album, and I implore people to
give it a listen because I think it would be
something that you you wouldn't be expected.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
There's even songs such as Memories.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
For example, where talking about the life of a musician,
just the hardships, trials and tribulations that we go through,
having to travel and leave the people that you love
behind at any given moment, and not knowing when you
will when when you may be returning, but knowing that
you will be returning and you will see them again.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So it's a it's quite a powerful and diverse album.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yes it is. And just the three songs that you
mentioned as I'm glad you mentioned those three songs because
they're going to bring me into the next topic that
I want to.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Discussed with you.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
But before I want to touch on those somethings like
first Rise Up, Rise Up, for one, is such an inspiration,
It is so inspiring. It is so to if you
are not standing on your feet at the beginning of
that song, you will be by the end of that song.
It is definitely something to make you praise the most
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high Ford, and you see your fight and what you're
fighting for. A lot of people don't even know what
they're fighting for. They're just out here fighting. So rise
up to me helps like to me, helps put that
that that that that culmination together to where it actually
you actually could see prosperity if.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You just continue to fight.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And then blessings. Everybody know that y'all, that the most
High y'all has always is going to provide no matter
what it is going to provide. So it's just it's
so so amazing to know that all you have to
do is just open your eyes the next morning and
y'all ask you and He's gonna help you open your eyes.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That's right there.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That that that is what I got out of that.
And with memories memories is how do you know you're
blessed because you remember your blessings. You have to remember
your blessing so that you can stay humble. But and
the reason why I like those three songs in a way,
that that that that you brought them up is because
there's actually something that's going on in Jamaica right now.
And I'm not sure if I asked you about earlier,
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you said you didn't really know too much about it,
but I'm not sure if my audience knows too much
about it. But it's about Bob Marley's Beach in Jamaica,
and I actually want to take this little time. I
want to take about two or three minutes, and I
want to read a piece of this excerpt from this
article that's talking about what's going on in Bob Marley's beach,
and then I want to get your your thoughts and
opinions about that, if that's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
So yeah, yeah, no, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
A perfect, perfect all right, So I'm gonna read the article.
It says the ongoing legal dispute to protect the public
access to Bob Marley Beach in jama has returned to court.
The leading campaign group, Jamaica Beach Birthright Environmental Movement or JABIM,
claimed the law which regulates Jamaican's right to access all
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beaches stems from the colonial era and its racist and
discriminatory and needs to change. According to a statement on
the advocacy group's Instagram page, they will returned to Sutton
Street Resident Magistrate Court this month to continue in defense
of a case for prescriptive rights to access Bob Marley
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beach and peppeturity. The statement continued, we call for the
government to vacate instruments of law that continue to undermine
the public and deny them of their rights to frequent
beaches that are post colonial hostages of the plantation tourism model.
So pretty much what is going on with this, what
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I've been studying is that the bab all the beaches
in Jamaica are privatized. They're owned by the colonial government there,
and they have restricted access for the residents.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
The actual indigenous people love Jamaica to access those actual beaches,
and they're trying to build on them and pretty much
take them away from the public and make them for tourism.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
They're fighting this right now in Jamaica. I just want
to I just want to get your thoughts and opinions
based on that story, and we'll talk a little bit
more about that as soon as we come back from
a word for one of our sponsors.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well, you know, based on what you're telling me, my
initial thoughts is that, you know, it's it's it's strange
that people want to own something that's that's unownable.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You want to own jazz land, you want to own
the beach.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's that's an incredible personal The beaches is jazz. You know,
it's for everyone. It was put there for everyone, everyone's enjoyment.
And I can't see how you can stop people from
access in a beach that's in their land. I mean,
the island is the land that Jamaicans are born on.
This is their property. Where where else should they go?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Where?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Where where do you want them to go? So it
doesn't really make sense to me. Also, up keeping colonial
laws in Jamaica is also quite a strange one. We're
talking in twenty twenty four, the upkeep of these laws.
How long will these laws placed visited, like one hundred
years reserve termine that it's unusable by Jamaicans or is
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it forever? Because you're saying that they're building and this
property is that they're building upon the beaches is going
to be earning them income, and the income is going
to them, the income is not really is it developed
in Jamaica? What is it doing for Jamaica? So I
think it's wrong on multiple levels.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You know, it's a fight that we've been having across
the globe as black people.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Unfortunately, because in Africa you have a similar thing where
they wanted to ennext Cape Town from being a part
of South Africa and making its own country.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So the land issue is a very big issue.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Within South Africa and in Cape Town specifically, with a
lot of people born in Cape Town saying that they
cannot afford to live where they previously have generations and
generations of them have lived. They can't live there anymore
because the prices that have been put there because of
the taurusts that are renting and buying accommodation, has put
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them out of the their homeland. So it's a crazy
it's a crazy thing that's happening in the world. You know,
on one hand, you want to say that we're all
human beings and you know you cannot be a foreigner
if you're on planet Earth because we're all humans together.
But on the other hand, you have to think that
if people have been living in a specific place for
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hundreds of years or forever long they have been there,
if you get there, would you not rather want to
get along and live with them in peace and rather
take what's theirs and make it yours. How does that
make sense making it yours? So the same thing with
the beaches in Jamaica. Is that How can you take
beaches in Jamaica away from Jamaicans and give it to
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people that are not Jamaican.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Right, And like you said, this is happens all over
the world of black people. Like like you were saying,
that was my first time hearing about how they tried
to in its Cape Town from South Africa? Is that
something like how they trying to? They were they pretty
much And it's Egypt from Africa.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, so wow, this is, like I said, something.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's that's happening continent wide, worldwide.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's a crazy thing.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I mean, I wouldn't have thought that it was possible
to do it, but that's what people are doing. I mean,
if you can do that, would it be then possible
for them to anness the outskirts of Jamaica and make
central Jamaica for Jamaicans and the beaches only for their
own lands or what would be the next movement.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's a slippery slope. If you're saying this is Jamaica,
then everything is Jamaica, right right?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And I just pictured what you just said about making
ner Jamaica just for the Jamaicans and then the outer
beach area for the tourists and the colonists and stuff.
I just pictured that in my head and all I
could think of was the inner Jamaica is the slave quarters,
while the outside is the plantation.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Wow, see, this is this is why we have to
have these conversations because people don't actually see things this way.
There's actually some Jamaicans who do who do not see
a problem with the the privatization of the beaches in Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
How do you reach people that.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Or like disenfranchised but don't know they're disenfranchised.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Well, it's a difficult thing. I mean, you know, I'm
not sure.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
On all of the on all of the.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Things that go into the speech thing.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Perhaps they will they're buying the land from the people
at a lower price and then checking it up when
they're redeveloping these beachfront properties or whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I don't know exactly what's going on there.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So all I can say is that, you know, you're
always going to have people that have different opinions. I
guess that's why you're going to have different political parties.
People do not all both the same, do not all
think the same. But I think that the best way
to think of anything would not be in the short term.
Not to think about what money you could get from
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it now or of that, but think about the future
for the future generations that if this land or the
speech is gone and we're not allowed to access this thing,
what's going to happen for the children and the children's
children's children. Will they be able to access it? Will
they be able to make money? We used to fish,
perhaps here can we still access the fish which could
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be our food supply. So there's a lot of questions
that you have to ask before you decide these things.
I can't speak on behalf of a community that I
haven't linked in, and I don't know that the whole story,
but I do think that it's it's a very dangerous
ground to trade upon because by first losing a little bit,
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you can end up losing a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right, you're right about that, And I did want to
throw one other thing one of the fact about this
it looks like Ziggy and I just ran across as
Ziggy and Sidella Mary Marley are teaming up with JABIM,
the political group or the eating campaign group that's against
the privatizations that joined them in order to be able
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to fight off the privatization. So it looks like they
got two heavy hitters with them, with the with the
Marley Foundation.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean that's very powerful.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
If with the Beach is named Bob Moley Beach and
you got the Bob Marley Foundation saying that we want
the people to have access. I mean, think about what
Bob Marley stood for, what love unity? You know, So
if you got Bob Marley's name and his spirit behind you,
I don't think it's something that they could pass very easily.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It's it's going to be a hardly contested subject for
a while.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Exactly, and I just hope that it comes out on
the positive side, because, like you were saying, if it
can happen here, it can happen pretty much.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Anywhere all over.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
There is happening all over the world, and we have
to put a stop to it for real.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And that's why I got.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
To say, Man, your music, your music pushes that. That's
why I got to say, that's why we have you
on here. And I'm said, I didn't mean to cut
you off.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
What were you going to say, No, it's so good,
it's so good. No, I was saying, one hundred percent,
I agree with you. One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
It's something that we have to always think about, you know,
and I want to say thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I love coming on to Boss Radio and just conversating
with you, so it's it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I'm glad that you enjoying the music and the albums.
It's it's for people like yourself that I make them,
so thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, it is wonderful, So thank you so much for that.
Matter of fact, go ahead and tell everybody, because we're
coming towards the end, tell everybody one more time. How
can we get that album?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
The Heart in the Mind available on all digital platforms,
whether streaming or download, whatever you prefer, it is available.
Go and check it out double disk The Heart in
the Mind one Disgregg a one disc hipop. It's a
whole audio journey, so you know, clear out some time
on the day to sit down and relax and enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yes, sir, definitely go check out track for y'all. Fire
and Water, Ah that right there, boy, I don't know
what they know about when fire and water miss. They
think that water put out fire. They don't understand it
that water, that water got the oxygen in it man,
It's gonna make it this blow man.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
That's the whole thing. That's the whole thing I'm giving them.
That that real power. You know that there's there's always
a messagion in what we do. And so I'm glad
you picked it up.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh yes, definitely, and the rest of y'all better pick
it up too, because why we just discussed, it's so
much going on in the world with these atrocities, so
we definitely need more music like this. So please go
out there and stream it right now. Find you boy
on all streaming services, whether it's Apple Music, Spotify, ear Ground.
I see you on ear ground right now. Amazon. If
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Speaker 1 (29:01):
I swear, y'all are ha ha.
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Also get me on Dundeta music dot com, so don't
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Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's a good vibe everywhere.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
That it's real, y'all. Make sure y'all look at the description,
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Speaker 1 (29:20):
Oh done? Dot Is there.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Anything else you want to tell the people before we
take off the night?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
You know, I just want to say thank you to
the people as always for the support, for always being
behind myself, being behind Boss Radio for listening supports you
on reggae music, the hip hop movement. Download stream the album.
Don't even just download and stream the album. Download stream,
share the link at your frenzy family to download, stream
and share the album. It's a good vibe. Thank you
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very much for your time, love and respect. Until the
next time.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Boom yes, sir, that is done. Donna representing South Africa
here on Boss Radio's Reggae Our podcasts. Y'all make sure
y'all tune in, turn up in zone. Now we out, baby,
What's good.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Everybody is your boy, mister e Boss of the south Side.
Boss is coming to y'all once again on Reggae IURL
with the multi platinum mart Is Done Datta representing South Africa.
How you doing today, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm blessed them well, thank you so much for having
me back on the show BOS Radio. When I say,
it's a beautiful thing, mister ev of yourself, pig up
to all the listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm back baby boom.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yes, sir, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Every time we have you on, it's always an event,
and I'm just so glad we was able to get
in touch at you because you know, it's been a
lot that's going on in this world, and your music
has always been a key is actually going going.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
In this world.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So whenever it's come to these these social issues or
social injustices, always love to get your take on them.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So I hope you ready for it. I'm always ready.
It's always great conversation with you.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So it's a good vibe, good times, entertainment, education, Let's
get it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's what's well? First link us in. What have you
been into since the last time we talked to you.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh man, there's been so much that's been going on.
So I think the last time we spoke, a Rise
Up was just released and it was sitting at number
one or so on the Caribbean VIP playlist charts.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Arise Up as since then dropped to number four.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And I have a new song that actually debuted number
one entitled Fire and Water, so that's a beautiful thing.
I've also released the double album that I've been I've
been talking about and been just preparing people for the
Heart in the Mind. That's dropped as well about a
week ago. So that's a beautiful, beautiful vibe. And as
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well as during that whole period, we lost such an
icon in South Africa, it's Jessica and Buy so.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We were planning a memorial.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
We did a memorial tour and later to rest and
paid our our tributes to her, and then Jamaica as
well paid tribute to her, which was a beautiful thing.
And yeah, now I'm back on on trail to promote
the album. So you've you've met me just a week
after all of that, so it's it's been a crazy
turnout events. But John Guy didn't protect and bless I'm
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here talking to you now.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yes, sir, he has been playing Joah has placed you
on a path of straight motivation and when we watch you,
we see nothing but inspiration and we just want to
ask you to keep that going, man for real. But
before we get into the meat and potatoes, tell us
about the Heart and the Mind. Tell us about your
double album. Tell us about where we can listen to
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it at because I heard it is fire.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much so the
Heart of the Mind. It's been a.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I've been working on for quite a while.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You could you could call it a passion project, you know,
something that I feel very deeply about. It's a double
disc album, one disc reggae, one disc hip hop. And
then it's it's it's really, you know, putting reggae as
as the hearts, because I see reggae as being so spiritual,
so something that touches the heart, the hearts and the
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souls and spirits of people, and put in hip hop
as the mind because hip hop got that commercialism, it's
got that catchiness to it. So you know, I've got
a whole lot of different things going on with it.
And it's it's a beautiful album. I mean We've got
vernacular languages of South Africa in it. We've got Twana, Zulu,
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We've got so many good vibes show or not, coming
all the way from Zimbabwe.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So it's it's it's beautiful. So please check it out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And to check it out, all you got to do
is go check out any of your favorites through streaming platforms,
whether it's Spotify or dizzer or whatever you prefer. It's
also an iTunes music so you can also check it
out there any digital platform. The Heart in the Mind
is available.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, that's what's up man, And come, I'm telling y'all
I'm vouching for this. Definitely go listen to it. It
is definitely something that you want to put on without
hitting that skill button. You ain't eve gonna be thinking
about that skip button. Trust me, you're gonna want to
hear every last track on it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Really that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Now you were saying South Africa just lost the icon.
Can you give us a little bit more information?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You know, I'm talking about my sister sis Jessica, and
get me a musical sister.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
We've got three songs that we've recorded together.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Love is a universal language, Unity and spirits of Africa
and what a beautiful socials. And in Bunkie Pray's Poets,
she did a poetry and a mix off of English
and it's for us, which is a beautiful language from
the Eastern Cape where she came.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And then she had just such a powerful, beautiful spirit.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And not only that, but she was a person that
a praise poetry was used to open up ceremonies. So
not only in South Africa, but on occasion she had
gone and opened up the New York Stock Exchange.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
She was also known in Jamaica quite as well.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Therefore they had done a memorial and a tribute to
her on a passing as well as across the African continent.
So quite a powerful figure, a community leader, a leader,
and a star wars of poetry. So South Africa has
definitely lost an icon man.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And it's always it's always hurtful when we lose these
staples in our community. But one thing we can always
agree on is that they will always be alive with
the work that they left us. And we'll talk a
little bit more about that soon as we come back
from a word for one of our sponsors.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Very true, very true, I say this very often, and
that as long as the music is played, a poetry
has played her videos that played the spirits a little
piece of hers right there for us to watch and
to fill her presence again. So although we've lost her,
we've not lost her entirely. So at least we can
go and listen back, and I believe with people to
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go and listen back because she was so powerful and
she had such a strong message to be heard.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So it's something that you should listen to over and over.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right, And what kind of memorial are you're planning or
have planned for her?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, we've already done the memorial. She's she's been laid
to rest. We've actually done three memorials. So we had
one at the National Theater in Johannesburg where we did
performances with the family and some speeches and just just
the moment for the fans and for the family to
get together and reflect on who Susjessica was. Then there
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was a second, a second memorial that followed that up
that was done in Jamaica with performances and also speeches
by people such as.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Out of Bread Locks and the like.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So it was a beautiful, beautiful moment and quite a
touching moment to see Jamaica is so impacted by Susjessica's work.
And then of course she was laid to rest on Saturday,
so the final final actor, the final funeral and memorial
was done on Saturday. So it was quite a long process,
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but a beautiful process for someone who had given their
all to the nation. So just a beautiful but sad
and hard thing to see.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, and it sounds like she was a beautiful soul
with some great works. We're definitely going to check that out.
If you haven't already checked that out, make sure y'all
check that out. We're going to get all the information
from don Data on how you can listen to music
and make sure that y'all have that available to y'all asam.
So make sure y'all tune in to turn up for
that already. So right now that you got the new
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double album out and we know you're going to be
hitting a row, hitting the do tour soon where you
plan on going.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
First after so much that's going on around this double album.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So it actually kicks off quite soon on the twenty eighth,
twenty ninth. I'm doing a festival right Ja in job
at the Main and Masanzi Festival. We're following that up
in October in Ghana, so that's also going to be
something amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And then of course there's the Coconut Africa.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Foundation in Kenya that we want to go through and
and performance. And then also on the twenty eighth of September,
we're doing a benefit concert before I Forget for the
kids in so it Or with pressure bus pipes, so
that's going to be something beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And then February is Jamaica and Reggie Month.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So we're hoping to be across in Jamaica and performing
on on platforms for the entirety of the month.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Oh wow, that's see now you got that's what. And
it's all sounds like it's going to be all on
the continent, the African continent, right.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah yeah, So of course, like I'm saying, we
came off in the African continent, but we'll be ending
in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And for me, I see the Caribbean as as.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like the fifth district of a Boys in the sixth district,
I think it's the sixth district.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Of Africa, you know, right, So it's it's home for me.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I love it every time I go. So I can't wait.
Then I know reay a month. It's just a beautiful,
vibrant time. So I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Man, that's beautiful right there. And now you know what
we're going to be moving around it. That's how so
we may catch you in the Caribbean. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I hope so, I hope so.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I think there will be quite an epic occasion if
we can link that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You already know it is. It's always going to be
a blessed time. Blessed time already. So tell us what's
going on in South Africa right now? It's like living
wise there because we know if anybody knows didn't think
about Africa, they know that, they're about the history of apartheid,
they know about Nelson Mandela, they know about pretty much,
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especially with the with the Israeli Palestine War. How a
lot of atrocity that was committed over there was relative
was related to the atrocities that was committed in Africa
South African history. Like what is the atmosphere like now
when you're walking around the country, when you're talking to
the people there, How does people feel.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I mean, I would say that it's it's it's you
know so well, firstly, I would start off by mentioning
that South Africa stood up at the World Court term
to bring the Israel in for the crimes that they're
committed in Palestine and call and end to the called
a ceasefire, not an end but cause call of fire
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between both sides. So South Africa has been standing up
again and standing for the Palestinians and standing up against
a lot of injustices that have been happening across the world.
But as I'm looking at South Africa a nation as
we are today, you know, it's been quite a normal day.
I think, you know, a normal day in relative to
the world. And when you look at the world scale,
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you're looking at cost of living crisises that people are
going through. We're going through it here as well. You know,
the average, the average. I think South Africa as well,
if you look at it, are in terms of Africa.
South Africa is a person world country. So the problems
that we suffer in South Africa are.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
More more first.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
World problems than the problems that you counter in deeper Africa.
Not not to say that there's no unemployment or housing
problems or problems with water supplies and so on and
so forth.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But I think that when you look at the average
person on the.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Streets, it's it's you know, it's a day to day
struggle to get by a type of atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
People are concentrated on making a living right now.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, so you can say the changes is on the cusps,
like we got to be able to make some kind
of a change, or that people can start living, start
living again, Like it's it's I'm getting the same narrative
around the world, especially with our with the Pan African movement.
It seems like we're hardly living in it. But we
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keep his smiles on our face and we're still celebrating
when we can. But it seems like the celebrations are
becoming to be starting to be a little far and
few in between. Is that the same atmosphere that you're
feeling out there?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I can agree with that. I can agree with that.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You know, African life is also quite centered around family life.
You know, we value family time and that you know,
I think all the working and everything that people do,
they do it in order to spend more time with
the family.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Or to provide for the family.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
So since lockdown had been lifted, and I think it's
something that happened.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Across the world, we've got to a kind of a reset.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
When you look at businesses, and especially when you look
at the realm of entrepreneurs, it's become a very volatile
playground where a lot of people who were starting out
or had just become established or even established.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Ones got wiped away.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So a lot of people are really trying to find
their feed, to get in and you know, just just survive.
I guess it's a crazy world that we're living in.
But with that also being said, there is a lot
of reasons as well to celebrate. I mean, just waking
up in the morning is a reason to celebrate, having
some food on the table, there's a reason to celebrate. Yeah,
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God is good, Jah is good. You know, these are
things that we must never forget. And expressionally, when you're
you're feeling like the climate is something that's so heavy
and so down, I think those are the things.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That can lift you up.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Just the word and the thoughts and the prayers to jump.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Right and with the ba said, with the heart in
the mind. You always touch on social issues that I
have yet to hear music from you where you're not
touching on reality that I know you are based in reality.
What are some of those realities that you actually cover
in your new album.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, you know, there's so many different things I'm looking
at this inspiration. I'm talking about being resilient, the songs
that are addressing depression, so many things that especially have
been playing in the music industry of late, especially here
in South Africa. You know, there's been a lot of
deaths that have happened in the last couple of months,
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you could say, in the last couple of years, so
it's been quite a somber atmosphere and so I'm addressing it,
but I'm addressing it in a musical way, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So it's quite.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
A diverse album if you look at it, and especially
when you look at songs like rise Up, which is
included on the album. Rise Up is talking back to
giving praise and giving thanks for everything that you get.
The songs such as Blessings where I'm saying that that
Jack keeps his hands upon us through the fire, through
the storm. They can never do us harm because Jack
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Keeper's hand partners to protect us, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So there's there's there's praises, there's chance, it's it's it's.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Quite a strong, powerful album, and I implore people to
give it a listen because I think it would be
something that you you wouldn't be expected.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
There's even songs such as Memories.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
For example, where talking about the life of a musician,
just the hardships, trials and tribulations that we go through,
having to travel and leave the people that you love
behind at any given moment, and not knowing when you
will when when you may be returning, but knowing that
you will be returning and you will see them again.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So it's a it's quite a powerful and diverse album.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yes it is. And just the three songs that you
mentioned as I'm glad you mentioned those three songs because
they're going to bring me into the next topic that
I want to.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Discussed with you.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
But before I want to touch on those somethings like
first Rise Up, Rise Up, for one, is such an inspiration,
It is so inspiring. It is so to if you
are not standing on your feet at the beginning of
that song, you will be by the end of that song.
It is definitely something to make you praise the most
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high Ford, and you see your fight and what you're
fighting for. A lot of people don't even know what
they're fighting for. They're just out here fighting. So rise
up to me helps like to me, helps put that
that that that that culmination together to where it actually
you actually could see prosperity if.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You just continue to fight.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And then blessings. Everybody know that y'all, that the most
High y'all has always is going to provide no matter
what it is going to provide. So it's just it's
so so amazing to know that all you have to
do is just open your eyes the next morning and
y'all ask you and He's gonna help you open your eyes.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That's right there.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That that that is what I got out of that.
And with memories memories is how do you know you're
blessed because you remember your blessings. You have to remember
your blessing so that you can stay humble. But and
the reason why I like those three songs in a way,
that that that that you brought them up is because
there's actually something that's going on in Jamaica right now.
And I'm not sure if I asked you about earlier,
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you said you didn't really know too much about it,
but I'm not sure if my audience knows too much
about it. But it's about Bob Marley's Beach in Jamaica,
and I actually want to take this little time. I
want to take about two or three minutes, and I
want to read a piece of this excerpt from this
article that's talking about what's going on in Bob Marley's beach,
and then I want to get your your thoughts and
opinions about that, if that's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
So yeah, yeah, no, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
A perfect, perfect all right, So I'm gonna read the article.
It says the ongoing legal dispute to protect the public
access to Bob Marley Beach in jama has returned to court.
The leading campaign group, Jamaica Beach Birthright Environmental Movement or JABIM,
claimed the law which regulates Jamaican's right to access all
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beaches stems from the colonial era and its racist and
discriminatory and needs to change. According to a statement on
the advocacy group's Instagram page, they will returned to Sutton
Street Resident Magistrate Court this month to continue in defense
of a case for prescriptive rights to access Bob Marley
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beach and peppeturity. The statement continued, we call for the
government to vacate instruments of law that continue to undermine
the public and deny them of their rights to frequent
beaches that are post colonial hostages of the plantation tourism model.
So pretty much what is going on with this, what
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I've been studying is that the bab all the beaches
in Jamaica are privatized. They're owned by the colonial government there,
and they have restricted access for the residents.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
The actual indigenous people love Jamaica to access those actual beaches,
and they're trying to build on them and pretty much
take them away from the public and make them for tourism.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
They're fighting this right now in Jamaica. I just want
to I just want to get your thoughts and opinions
based on that story, and we'll talk a little bit
more about that as soon as we come back from
a word for one of our sponsors.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well, you know, based on what you're telling me, my
initial thoughts is that, you know, it's it's it's strange
that people want to own something that's that's unownable.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You want to own jazz land, you want to own
the beach.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's that's an incredible personal The beaches is jazz. You know,
it's for everyone. It was put there for everyone, everyone's enjoyment.
And I can't see how you can stop people from
access in a beach that's in their land. I mean,
the island is the land that Jamaicans are born on.
This is their property. Where where else should they go?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Where?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Where where do you want them to go? So it
doesn't really make sense to me. Also, up keeping colonial
laws in Jamaica is also quite a strange one. We're
talking in twenty twenty four, the upkeep of these laws.
How long will these laws placed visited, like one hundred
years reserve termine that it's unusable by Jamaicans or is
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it forever? Because you're saying that they're building and this
property is that they're building upon the beaches is going
to be earning them income, and the income is going
to them, the income is not really is it developed
in Jamaica? What is it doing for Jamaica? So I
think it's wrong on multiple levels.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You know, it's a fight that we've been having across
the globe as black people.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Unfortunately, because in Africa you have a similar thing where
they wanted to ennext Cape Town from being a part
of South Africa and making its own country.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So the land issue is a very big issue.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Within South Africa and in Cape Town specifically, with a
lot of people born in Cape Town saying that they
cannot afford to live where they previously have generations and
generations of them have lived. They can't live there anymore
because the prices that have been put there because of
the taurusts that are renting and buying accommodation, has put
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them out of the their homeland. So it's a crazy
it's a crazy thing that's happening in the world. You know,
on one hand, you want to say that we're all
human beings and you know you cannot be a foreigner
if you're on planet Earth because we're all humans together.
But on the other hand, you have to think that
if people have been living in a specific place for
(22:00):
hundreds of years or forever long they have been there,
if you get there, would you not rather want to
get along and live with them in peace and rather
take what's theirs and make it yours. How does that
make sense making it yours? So the same thing with
the beaches in Jamaica. Is that How can you take
beaches in Jamaica away from Jamaicans and give it to
(22:25):
people that are not Jamaican.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Right, And like you said, this is happens all over
the world of black people. Like like you were saying,
that was my first time hearing about how they tried
to in its Cape Town from South Africa? Is that
something like how they trying to? They were they pretty
much And it's Egypt from Africa.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, so wow, this is, like I said, something.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's that's happening continent wide, worldwide.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's a crazy thing.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I mean, I wouldn't have thought that it was possible
to do it, but that's what people are doing. I mean,
if you can do that, would it be then possible
for them to anness the outskirts of Jamaica and make
central Jamaica for Jamaicans and the beaches only for their
own lands or what would be the next movement.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's a slippery slope. If you're saying this is Jamaica,
then everything is Jamaica, right right?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And I just pictured what you just said about making
ner Jamaica just for the Jamaicans and then the outer
beach area for the tourists and the colonists and stuff.
I just pictured that in my head and all I
could think of was the inner Jamaica is the slave quarters,
while the outside is the plantation.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Wow, see, this is this is why we have to
have these conversations because people don't actually see things this way.
There's actually some Jamaicans who do who do not see
a problem with the the privatization of the beaches in Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
How do you reach people that.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Or like disenfranchised but don't know they're disenfranchised.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Well, it's a difficult thing. I mean, you know, I'm
not sure.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
On all of the on all of the.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Things that go into the speech thing.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Perhaps they will they're buying the land from the people
at a lower price and then checking it up when
they're redeveloping these beachfront properties or whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I don't know exactly what's going on there.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So all I can say is that, you know, you're
always going to have people that have different opinions. I
guess that's why you're going to have different political parties.
People do not all both the same, do not all
think the same. But I think that the best way
to think of anything would not be in the short term.
Not to think about what money you could get from
(24:58):
it now or of that, but think about the future
for the future generations that if this land or the
speech is gone and we're not allowed to access this thing,
what's going to happen for the children and the children's
children's children. Will they be able to access it? Will
they be able to make money? We used to fish,
perhaps here can we still access the fish which could
(25:19):
be our food supply. So there's a lot of questions
that you have to ask before you decide these things.
I can't speak on behalf of a community that I
haven't linked in, and I don't know that the whole story,
but I do think that it's it's a very dangerous
ground to trade upon because by first losing a little bit,
(25:40):
you can end up losing a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right, you're right about that, And I did want to
throw one other thing one of the fact about this
it looks like Ziggy and I just ran across as
Ziggy and Sidella Mary Marley are teaming up with JABIM,
the political group or the eating campaign group that's against
the privatizations that joined them in order to be able
(26:05):
to fight off the privatization. So it looks like they
got two heavy hitters with them, with the with the
Marley Foundation.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean that's very powerful.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
If with the Beach is named Bob Moley Beach and
you got the Bob Marley Foundation saying that we want
the people to have access. I mean, think about what
Bob Marley stood for, what love unity? You know, So
if you got Bob Marley's name and his spirit behind you,
I don't think it's something that they could pass very easily.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It's it's going to be a hardly contested subject for
a while.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Exactly, and I just hope that it comes out on
the positive side, because, like you were saying, if it
can happen here, it can happen pretty much.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Anywhere all over.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
There is happening all over the world, and we have
to put a stop to it for real.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And that's why I got.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
To say, Man, your music, your music pushes that. That's
why I got to say, that's why we have you
on here. And I'm said, I didn't mean to cut
you off.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
What were you going to say, No, it's so good,
it's so good. No, I was saying, one hundred percent,
I agree with you. One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
It's something that we have to always think about, you know,
and I want to say thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I love coming on to Boss Radio and just conversating
with you, so it's it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I'm glad that you enjoying the music and the albums.
It's it's for people like yourself that I make them,
so thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yes, it is wonderful, So thank you so much for that.
Matter of fact, go ahead and tell everybody, because we're
coming towards the end, tell everybody one more time. How
can we get that album?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
The Heart in the Mind available on all digital platforms,
whether streaming or download, whatever you prefer, it is available.
Go and check it out double disk The Heart in
the Mind one Disgregg a one disc hipop. It's a
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Yes, sir, definitely go check out track for y'all. Fire
and Water, Ah that right there, boy, I don't know
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that water, that water got the oxygen in it man,
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Speaker 1 (28:21):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
That's the whole thing. That's the whole thing I'm giving them.
That that real power. You know that there's there's always
a messagion in what we do. And so I'm glad
you picked it up.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
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it up too, because why we just discussed, it's so
much going on in the world with these atrocities, so
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Speaker 1 (29:20):
Oh done? Dot Is there.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Anything else you want to tell the people before we
take off the night?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
You know, I just want to say thank you to
the people as always for the support, for always being
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(29:48):
very much for your time, love and respect. Until the
next time.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Boom yes, sir, that is done. Donna representing South Africa
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