July 24, 2025 • 19 mins
Sexualizing children is wrong in every single way! Too many people have demented minds and cold hearts. They sexually abuse children and some of these people are the parents of these children. Children are a commodity across the world and it's a shame, wicked, and evil on evey level! Children should be protected by adults not hurt or harmed.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, hey, hey, I'm bad. Listen, I have to talk
about it. Have you ever really thought about why people
are attracted to children? Now, there could be many reasons
why this happens.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
But we all know it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I don't care what country you live in. I don't
care what the laws are. You know, it's wrong for
a full grown person to be attracted to or to be.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
With a child, a child.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Who don't even know how to process life yet, a
child who have no understanding of you know, the things
that adults have understanding of a child.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't care. It's wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And I kind of talked about this before, but here
I am again because I keep hearing these stories. People
get into these things because people fay can pretend to
be one thing when they.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Know they are another.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What's done in the dark always come to the light
in some form or another. There's no secrets in the
eyes of God, and that's the ultimate judge and the jury.
People grown people who like to be with children are
(01:35):
individuals who are hiding behind masks. They're broken. People who
have done this for so long they think it's normal.
You know, it's normal because they've normalized it. Many people
(01:55):
have become so comfortable in their twisted, distorted ways of
thinking that it's so normal to them, they're so familiar
with it. But it's wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. A child
(02:15):
is a child. No grown man or grown woman should
have any type of sexual feelings towards a child, period, period.
I don't care who you are, But it's hidden. So
many people are caught doing nefarious things, such as taking
(02:40):
videos of infants and children doing nasty things, vile things.
They take photographs, they do videos, they sell them.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
They're meeting children.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Online, going to their homes or different places, only to
find that they've been caught up in stinging operations. You
have parents who give birth to children, so those children
could be abused. You have parents who sell their own
children for money or for something, you know, fame, fortune,
(03:22):
something they get out of it, selling their own children.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
How horrible is that? How horrible is that? I've told
you over and over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It is the hearts and minds of people, broken people.
It is wrong, it's wrong, it's wicked, it's evil.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's horrible, is it?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
There's no words, honestly, to have any desire for a child,
and a lot of people do it because it happened
to them. But you should know better. Most people who
do it do it because it happened to them. Most
(04:21):
the highest percentage do it because it happened to them
at some point.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But you should know better. You went through it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I told you long ago, years ago, that I had
a conversation with multiple sex offenders, and they told me
two things. One, it happened to them, and they hated
what happened. They hated what happened the whole entire time
(04:55):
that they.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Went through it. Then you had.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Those who said, I started off hating it, and then
I just gave into it and I started to enjoy it.
Those are the ones who grow up to be adults
who victimize children. They're the ones who grow up to
(05:21):
victimize children. There are children victimizing children because the children
were victimized. Listen, let's just be real. Children don't know
how to handle those types of feelings and emotions.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Some children cringe, They cringe, and they hate it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
They never give into it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But then you have children who like the feeling and
begin to welcome the film, and then they start victimizing
as children as long as they can get away with it.
And those are the ones who grow up to be adults,
who continue victimizing children because they never ever, ever, ever
(06:21):
chose to become better human beings. They get into the
highest jobs, the highest office that there is down let
me say it again, they get into the highest office
(06:44):
there is.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Down to the lowest.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They are in every single profession there is on this earth.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And that is sad. That is sad. Then you have
the group that coherts and manipulating into it.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Because they find out that they can get money some
kind of way by either bringing the people, you know,
bringing the children through some form of sex trafficking or
some type of thing they have where they can bring
the children.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And they get money like that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
They don't touch the children, but they bring the children,
they make the children available. Well, they're just as guilty.
They are just as guilty as if they were touching
the children because they are a part of it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Horrible. See, that's when money have control of you, When
you will.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Do anything for money, money has control of you, that's
when it's wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Because the Bible says.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The love of money is the root to evil, not
money itself, the love of money, and that is when
you would do anything to get money, all over the world.
(08:29):
People are doing horrible things to children all over the world.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And it's horribly sad.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And that's why so many adults are messed up because
of the things that happened to them when they were children.
If you look at a child and you have any
sexual or.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You are the problem.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Something is seriously wrong with you. There are people who
are raping infants. It has nothing to do with an
attraction to the infant. It's that sick, demented mind. Go
get you an orange, put a hole in an apple.
(09:24):
I mean, there are a million things you could do
rather than.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Raping a baby, an infant.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But this is what sick people are doing, raping infants, toddlers, adolescents, teenagers,
just sick, demented. There's so much incest in families. See
a lot of times you hear people say old black people.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No. No, let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I've worked in dealing with rape victims and things like
that for many, many, many, many, many many years, and
the most people I saw who were guilty were white people.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm not trying to be funny.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I've seen many all races, but white people were the most.
And I'm not sitting here trying to, you know, say
this person is worse than that person. I'm just telling
you what I saw. But it happens in all what
we call race of people, all of them. So much
(10:44):
incest happens in the homes, and that's where a lot
of this sickness starts in the homes, and people grow
up to be adults and they carry on with this mess.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
A lot of these.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
People even say they're Christian, but they're doing all of
these horrible, horrendous things, but they call themselves Christians. Well,
if you call yourself a Christian, I hope you know
that God is watching you and you will be punished
for the sins that you're committing to these children. Shame
(11:24):
on these adult people who have these children that they're
handing over to these adult men and women just for
money or just to get something. Shame on you as
a parent. You're supposed to be the protectors of your children.
(11:44):
You don't supposed to abuse them.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You're supposed to protect them from abusers. You don't supposed
to be.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
The ones who abuse them or sell them. Fathers having
sex with their daughters, mothers having sex with.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Their sons is sick. You know what's wrong? People?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Know what they're doing wrong, but they'll still do it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It is wrong on every level. It is wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
People need to take a good, good look at themselves,
look in the mirror and tell yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
People need to do inside work, majorly inside work, and
allow healing in their lives, healing in their hearts and minds.
Because to look at a child and do those horrible things,
(13:06):
I mean, it's beyond comprehensible. And I know people do
a lot of horrible things to their children, but I'm
talking about sexual abuse. I'm talking about sex trafficking. It
(13:27):
is crazy wrong. Children are trafficking not just for sex,
but for labor too, to be slaves, work slaves, and
things beyond, terribly beyond that. They do all kinds of
(13:52):
things for children with children because they think if they
do these horrible, wicked things of satan that they will
be youthful, they'll remain youthful.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I don't care what you do. You're gonna get old
and you're gonna die.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
None of what you do is gonna keep you youthful.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But people, people just do.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Just dark, dark, wicked evil, and I hope that every person.
I don't care if you believe or not. I hope
you know that God is watching you and you will repay,
(14:43):
you will for all of the things that you've done
to these children.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Who you are, where you are, what you have. God
is going to be the abi. You're gonna read exactly
what you saw because you know better.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You know it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And these countries, who's married little kids, young girls?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Man, that is sick.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's wrong a child so you can control them all
of their lives.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's what it's about. Manipulation and control. There's no other reason.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
A grown man should want to marry a child or
a grown woman should want to marry a child. It's
about getting with who you can manipulate. They don't care
that it's a child, just nasty, horrible because they know
they can manipulate and deceive that child.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
They want to.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Create, inform this mind where this child is controlled. They
don't want an adult because they know, you know, grown
women and men is not gonna take some things. Some
people are easily manipulated for the most part. They know
that they're gonna have some type of struggle with adults,
(16:13):
so they get children who they can manipulate and scare
and all of that. And you know what, on the
other end of the spectrum, some of them get children
and they treat their children very well, but that's still manipulation. Well,
(16:37):
if I treat this child well, you know, they'll think
it's good, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, it's still manipulation and deceit. Shame on any.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Grown person who's doing horrible things to children, no matter
what it is, Shame on you.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And I'd be so glad when God God fix it.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I'll be so glad when God avenge.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
For all these things that people are doing to children.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I pray to God he exposed all of these people,
every single last one, for the things that they're doing
sexually to these children. I hope he exposed every last one,
every last one. He will, because you know it's wrong.
And like I said, whether you are a handler, a
(17:37):
handler is a person who supplied the children. If you
a handler, you're justice guilty. If you've done any part
of it, you're just as guilty. And God, I pray
for protection over these children.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Lord.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I pray for protection over their minds and their hearts, Lord,
so they don't grow up to be like the evil
adults who are hurting them. Protect their hearts and minds. Lord,
it's just awful. It's awful the world that we're in.
(18:17):
It's not the world, it is the people in it
because they choose to not allow healing in their lives.
This is what happens. When you choose to not allow
healing in your heart and mind, you live and become
a monster who hide behind who you are. You get
(18:39):
in these different positions to get power so you can
do all the nefarious things that you want to do.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
But one day God is going to right the wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And that's all I'm saying about it, because it's satning.
Please share much love. I end every episode the same,
and I hope you do it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Thank call it
Speaker 1 (19:10):
H m hm
Hey, hey, hey, I'm bad. Listen, I have to talk
about it. Have you ever really thought about why people
are attracted to children? Now, there could be many reasons
why this happens.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
But we all know it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I don't care what country you live in. I don't
care what the laws are. You know, it's wrong for
a full grown person to be attracted to or to be.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
With a child, a child.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Who don't even know how to process life yet, a
child who have no understanding of you know, the things
that adults have understanding of a child.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't care. It's wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And I kind of talked about this before, but here
I am again because I keep hearing these stories. People
get into these things because people fay can pretend to
be one thing when they.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Know they are another.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What's done in the dark always come to the light
in some form or another. There's no secrets in the
eyes of God, and that's the ultimate judge and the jury.
People grown people who like to be with children are
(01:35):
individuals who are hiding behind masks. They're broken. People who
have done this for so long they think it's normal.
You know, it's normal because they've normalized it. Many people
(01:55):
have become so comfortable in their twisted, distorted ways of
thinking that it's so normal to them, they're so familiar
with it. But it's wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. A child
(02:15):
is a child. No grown man or grown woman should
have any type of sexual feelings towards a child, period, period.
I don't care who you are, But it's hidden. So
many people are caught doing nefarious things, such as taking
(02:40):
videos of infants and children doing nasty things, vile things.
They take photographs, they do videos, they sell them.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
They're meeting children.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Online, going to their homes or different places, only to
find that they've been caught up in stinging operations. You
have parents who give birth to children, so those children
could be abused. You have parents who sell their own
children for money or for something, you know, fame, fortune,
(03:22):
something they get out of it, selling their own children.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
How horrible is that? How horrible is that? I've told
you over and over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It is the hearts and minds of people, broken people.
It is wrong, it's wrong, it's wicked, it's evil.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's horrible, is it?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
There's no words, honestly, to have any desire for a child,
and a lot of people do it because it happened
to them. But you should know better. Most people who
do it do it because it happened to them. Most
(04:21):
the highest percentage do it because it happened to them
at some point.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But you should know better. You went through it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I told you long ago, years ago, that I had
a conversation with multiple sex offenders, and they told me
two things. One, it happened to them, and they hated
what happened. They hated what happened the whole entire time
(04:55):
that they.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Went through it. Then you had.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Those who said, I started off hating it, and then
I just gave into it and I started to enjoy it.
Those are the ones who grow up to be adults
who victimize children. They're the ones who grow up to
(05:21):
victimize children. There are children victimizing children because the children
were victimized. Listen, let's just be real. Children don't know
how to handle those types of feelings and emotions.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Some children cringe, They cringe, and they hate it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
They never give into it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But then you have children who like the feeling and
begin to welcome the film, and then they start victimizing
as children as long as they can get away with it.
And those are the ones who grow up to be adults,
who continue victimizing children because they never ever, ever, ever
(06:21):
chose to become better human beings. They get into the
highest jobs, the highest office that there is down let
me say it again, they get into the highest office
(06:44):
there is.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Down to the lowest.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They are in every single profession there is on this earth.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And that is sad. That is sad. Then you have
the group that coherts and manipulating into it.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Because they find out that they can get money some
kind of way by either bringing the people, you know,
bringing the children through some form of sex trafficking or
some type of thing they have where they can bring
the children.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And they get money like that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
They don't touch the children, but they bring the children,
they make the children available. Well, they're just as guilty.
They are just as guilty as if they were touching
the children because they are a part of it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Horrible. See, that's when money have control of you, When
you will.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Do anything for money, money has control of you, that's
when it's wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Because the Bible says.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The love of money is the root to evil, not
money itself, the love of money, and that is when
you would do anything to get money, all over the world.
(08:29):
People are doing horrible things to children all over the world.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And it's horribly sad.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And that's why so many adults are messed up because
of the things that happened to them when they were children.
If you look at a child and you have any
sexual or.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You are the problem.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Something is seriously wrong with you. There are people who
are raping infants. It has nothing to do with an
attraction to the infant. It's that sick, demented mind. Go
get you an orange, put a hole in an apple.
(09:24):
I mean, there are a million things you could do
rather than.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Raping a baby, an infant.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But this is what sick people are doing, raping infants, toddlers, adolescents, teenagers,
just sick, demented. There's so much incest in families. See
a lot of times you hear people say old black people.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No. No, let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I've worked in dealing with rape victims and things like
that for many, many, many, many, many many years, and
the most people I saw who were guilty were white people.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm not trying to be funny.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I've seen many all races, but white people were the most.
And I'm not sitting here trying to, you know, say
this person is worse than that person. I'm just telling
you what I saw. But it happens in all what
we call race of people, all of them. So much
(10:44):
incest happens in the homes, and that's where a lot
of this sickness starts in the homes, and people grow
up to be adults and they carry on with this mess.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
A lot of these.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
People even say they're Christian, but they're doing all of
these horrible, horrendous things, but they call themselves Christians. Well,
if you call yourself a Christian, I hope you know
that God is watching you and you will be punished
for the sins that you're committing to these children. Shame
(11:24):
on these adult people who have these children that they're
handing over to these adult men and women just for
money or just to get something. Shame on you as
a parent. You're supposed to be the protectors of your children.
(11:44):
You don't supposed to abuse them.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You're supposed to protect them from abusers. You don't supposed
to be.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
The ones who abuse them or sell them. Fathers having
sex with their daughters, mothers having sex with.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Their sons is sick. You know what's wrong? People?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Know what they're doing wrong, but they'll still do it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It is wrong on every level. It is wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
People need to take a good, good look at themselves,
look in the mirror and tell yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
People need to do inside work, majorly inside work, and
allow healing in their lives, healing in their hearts and minds.
Because to look at a child and do those horrible things,
(13:06):
I mean, it's beyond comprehensible. And I know people do
a lot of horrible things to their children, but I'm
talking about sexual abuse. I'm talking about sex trafficking. It
(13:27):
is crazy wrong. Children are trafficking not just for sex,
but for labor too, to be slaves, work slaves, and
things beyond, terribly beyond that. They do all kinds of
(13:52):
things for children with children because they think if they
do these horrible, wicked things of satan that they will
be youthful, they'll remain youthful.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I don't care what you do. You're gonna get old
and you're gonna die.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
None of what you do is gonna keep you youthful.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But people, people just do.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Just dark, dark, wicked evil, and I hope that every person.
I don't care if you believe or not. I hope
you know that God is watching you and you will repay,
(14:43):
you will for all of the things that you've done
to these children.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Who you are, where you are, what you have. God
is going to be the abi. You're gonna read exactly
what you saw because you know better.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You know it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And these countries, who's married little kids, young girls?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Man, that is sick.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's wrong a child so you can control them all
of their lives.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's what it's about. Manipulation and control. There's no other reason.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
A grown man should want to marry a child or
a grown woman should want to marry a child. It's
about getting with who you can manipulate. They don't care
that it's a child, just nasty, horrible because they know
they can manipulate and deceive that child.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
They want to.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Create, inform this mind where this child is controlled. They
don't want an adult because they know, you know, grown
women and men is not gonna take some things. Some
people are easily manipulated for the most part. They know
that they're gonna have some type of struggle with adults,
(16:13):
so they get children who they can manipulate and scare
and all of that. And you know what, on the
other end of the spectrum, some of them get children
and they treat their children very well, but that's still manipulation. Well,
(16:37):
if I treat this child well, you know, they'll think
it's good, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, it's still manipulation and deceit. Shame on any.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Grown person who's doing horrible things to children, no matter
what it is, Shame on you.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And I'd be so glad when God God fix it.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I'll be so glad when God avenge.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
For all these things that people are doing to children.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I pray to God he exposed all of these people,
every single last one, for the things that they're doing
sexually to these children. I hope he exposed every last one,
every last one. He will, because you know it's wrong.
And like I said, whether you are a handler, a
(17:37):
handler is a person who supplied the children. If you
a handler, you're justice guilty. If you've done any part
of it, you're just as guilty. And God, I pray
for protection over these children.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Lord.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I pray for protection over their minds and their hearts, Lord,
so they don't grow up to be like the evil
adults who are hurting them. Protect their hearts and minds. Lord,
it's just awful. It's awful the world that we're in.
(18:17):
It's not the world, it is the people in it
because they choose to not allow healing in their lives.
This is what happens. When you choose to not allow
healing in your heart and mind, you live and become
a monster who hide behind who you are. You get
(18:39):
in these different positions to get power so you can
do all the nefarious things that you want to do.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
But one day God is going to right the wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And that's all I'm saying about it, because it's satning.
Please share much love. I end every episode the same,
and I hope you do it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Thank call it
Speaker 1 (19:10):
H m hm
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New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!