S8 E12 - MATT HOWELL from GONE DIGGIN Talks Civil War Relics, Egypt, and History - Relics Radio show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, dk Hear from Adventures and Dirt. Welcome to
a Wednesday Night. Wednesday night here on Relics Radio. I
want to say hi to everyone rolling in. The first
thing I want to do is bring him my co host.
Ye were that intro? Man? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Sorry, I was. I was on the wrong uh, the
wrong side. I was on a different show and I
started that intro and then I was like oh, and
I clicked over and I was like, maybe I'll just
keep going. No, it had to restart, but that's all right.
It was like three seconds in. We're professionals here.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Come on, man, how goes it?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It goes really well? How are you dude doing?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
All right?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, welcome to another Wednesday night of Relics Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's right, it's awesome. We got you know you and
I just said, you know, we were like, hey, let's
just uh, let's just hang out and chat tonight, and uh,
I go, yeah, I go. You know, man, we got
to bring a friend in that we could just chat
to chat with. Man. Yeah, everybody better than our guests tonight.
We're going to bring him in and chat with him.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
You want to say hi to people in the in
the Yeah, let's get over to the chat real quick
and see who's all joining us. We have Thin Blue Diggers,
says Hi everyone, Hi Matt, Yeah, Nick, good to have
you on.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Thanks for coming on. Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Metal Sharks says greetings all looking forward show. I know,
right you and I were just talking about metal Sharks yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I think yeah, yeah it was who was it, Bob
Bob Lee rightah? I wanted to know if he got
his book yet or not. I know. So it pays
to watch lets radio. It does get away a lot
of stuff lately.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I know, it's been awesome. We're blessed to be able
to do that. Great great uh supporters out here too,
just makes it easy.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Anyways.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
So hey, Bill Hayes, welcome on to the Bill.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
How about E Tector. Oh yeah, E Tector.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
We just call him E for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Easy.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
That's a whole different, a whole different easy t huh
uh detect s d Thanks for coming on tonight with us,
and Copper Joe's joining us again. Kind of a habit
to join us every single Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Good to see you.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, met Joe last year or two years ago. A
great guy, great guy. Robert Thompson says, howdy, he's from Nebraska, Robert. Yeah, hey,
we'ven't seening Relic Jedi in a while.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Look at that cool man. I was the checking out
Relic Jedi on Instagram. I was checking that out.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah yeah yeah, cool, dirty South digger.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yourself in the house, right, You got.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
A couple more here to get through FLX detectorists, flex flex.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Anymore lex and we have the one eyed Digger are
are you mate? It's awesome? Man, I love that.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
How about don't tread on me? Metal detecting awesome, good evening,
frozen ground still in western mass excellent. Yeah, we've had
you and I've had some good weather here in Colorado, uh.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
For a little bit, so like seventy one degrees the
other day. See that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Couldn't believe that is awesome. I've been itching to uh
to get out. I think I told you. I it
was last week after the show of us talking and
I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna go.
I'm going to charge up my machine. I'm going to
go tomorrow at work on this homestead and you're just
gonna dig some holes on lunch. We got hammered with
snow that night.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, you're showing me picture like I'm itching. It's
like this beautiful ranch land. It's like and then later
you're like, oh man, look what rolled in?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I know, I know right, that's all right. We're gonna
get out pretty soon here, pretty soon to go digging
on our own. But we've got a some some updates
and some announcements to make. How about Uh, let's talk
about Rush to the Rockies twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, and I'll tell Matt hold on one second, Matt,
we'll get right to you.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Like.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
We got a bonus guest coming on with us too,
Rush of the Rockies Rendezvous twenty twenty five right here
in beautiful Kiowa, Colorado.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
It's our Eureka Treasure Hunters Club National Open Metal Detecting Event.
Eureka has been around since nineteen seventy three, fully active
since then. This will bob be their twenty fifth Rush
to the Rockies. Highly organized, very great seated hunt. Got
a lot of great sponsors and supporters coming out. It's
just three days, two days with five hunts. Friday the

(05:02):
day before is sort of come on out meet us.
You get into the registration table to check in table,
get all your stuff check out the site, and we're
doing something special on Friday for beginners out there, Like
you know, some people have never been to a seated
hunt before, or maybe you know, you listen to us
and you come out and you're basically, you know, kind

(05:25):
of a beginner.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
We're doing what are we doing on Friday. We're gonna
have a beginner's field. So it's gonna be you know,
coin probably foreign coins, some some some interesting type of
tones and targets and all cordoned off. And if you're
a beginner, if you're just learning out a machine, and
you can be able to go out in this field
and learn really what machine's telling you and just have

(05:49):
an opportunity to kind of maybe you know, knock the
rust off if you need to, uh, in preparation for
the big the big hunt. But it's gonna be pretty cool,
pretty little beginner, see, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, like nothing of note, you know, I mean, like
people that have been doing seated hunts before, you're not
going to probably want to go out there, probably nothing
interesting for you. But for those of your beginning or
have never hunted a seated hunt before, it's a little
bit of a different type of swinging and digging. That
would be a great practice field for you to come
out and check out, for sure. Just a great idea.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
But re like Jedi says, hit it up with pool tabs. Yeah,
well that to introduce those beginners right to the pool tab.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
We just may do that, be like, hey, welcome to
the hobby. This is what it's about.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's right. Hey, before we get to our guest here,
I know everyone's itching to get onto that. I just
wanted to just send out some prayers and thoughts to
our metal teching community. We got a couple of people
that I just want to do. I'm not going to
give personal information, but if you guys can just put
people in your prayers. We had somebody in our metal
tech to community that that went through a liver transplant

(06:57):
not too long ago. I reached out to them yesterday,
checked in with them. Everything's going better and well, but
they're itching to get back out and detect. And then
a big supporter of Relics Radio just had surgery today
and checked in with them as well, and everything went well.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So you know, just keep those people.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
In our prayers and and uh, you know, just supports
the community that people that support us.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
So yeah, I hope you both forget the feeling better.
Thanks for us sporting the show and if we can
support you with our prayers, and we definitely will, and
then absolutely let's do it. I think we've got a
guest and we might have two. Yeah, look at this
the price for one go ahead, let's bring it in. Wow,

(07:45):
that's radio to welcome Lieutenant Tenant Dan.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
How are you guys?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Doing good?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Who else? Who have you got here with you?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Everybody knows Adline. She's way more than miss than I am.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I agree, it is the Ada line. How are you?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm good?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, good, waiting for bring the.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I just lost the tooth.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh my goodness, look at that?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Did it?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Did it fall out or did you have to yank
it out?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
It fell out?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh yeah, that's kind of weird. The whole tooth fell
out at school.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
At school? The last to bring you one dollar and
ten who inflation is rough? You would think the tooth
fairy would learn about change.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
You so gosh, we haven't seen you forever out of line.
You know what you need to do now that you're
missing the tooth is put the straw like from your
Caprice son through there. And you don't have to open
your mouth to drink or anything right through, right.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Through the hole. Yeah, it's a straw. Put a straw
in there. And Adeline, I don't know if you remember,
my wife and I came and we actually met you
in your home when we were visiting. Oh, my wife
you were what you were? I don't know about that, man,
you were great. Yeah, my wife talked and talked all

(09:28):
about you on the way out of there, just what
a lovely young lady you are and how personable you were. Yeah,
we had a good time.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Man, that was me you. Yeah, very nice. Well, will
you tell everyone night night because we got to go
to bed.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
And joining us tonight out of line.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Take care of that.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
You're right there, we go, good night, shut the door,
and I love you. Maybe we'll see.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Is it your night? Night time? Matt?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Oh man, it feels like it. Man. How you guys
been doing? Also, I don't know how we're gonna top
the rest of the show. I think that's been completely
stolen away from us.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Thanks for joining us on Relics Radio. We're gonna just
spou out at this point. That has been a minute,
a hot minute man, since we.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, it's been a it's been a little bit. Yeah,
we keep in touch, we talk, we chat. I wanted
you guys have been doing it on the uh the
rush of the Rockies, and we're do my absolute best
to get out there and uh and hang out guys.

(10:55):
Hopefully this summer.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
That would be so awesome. We got taken another picture
like this. I mean, I look at this. Look how
young we were there?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Man, I know what happened Tony. What happened to her beer?
The mustache?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I went to the mustache. Oh, I know, Hey, hey, hey,
I know it's all.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Great, russy, I'm no younger.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Twenty eighteen. Yeah, that was uh, you were out here
in Colorado and we just all kind of met up.
We had never met each other and just met up
for dinner and then the rest is history from there,
I guess, right.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, absolutely great time. Yeah, I had uh had a blast,
and uh, I've been meaning to get out there ever
since and hang out with you guys. Finding all that
cool kind of post post American Civil War, but you know,
even some pre civil war stuff, and that stuff you
guys find out there in Colorado was super cool.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
A lot of Indian War Indian, yeah, kind.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Of Indian War, which is cool for most people that
don't know that those uniforms were basically from veterans who
fought in the Civil War and just wanted to go
out west or whatever happened in their life, and or
they were just reused because they were still in storage.
So really civil War era stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I know, it changed, it changed detecting for Tony and
I once we realized we could find cavalry camps out here,
you know, small cavalry camps and cavalry relics that even
predate the Civil Wars sometimes, like they had cavalry out
here protecting trails and protecting sort of pioneers from as

(12:31):
early as sort of the mid nineteen fifties and eighteen fifties,
eighteen fifties, sorry, eighteen fifties, nineteen fifties, eighteen fifties, and
and even a little bit before. So when you find
something like that that you can try to date, like
the back mark on the button to a supplier or something,
you know, a maker that was making buttons really early,

(12:54):
then it's really cool. Man. Like, we never knew we
could find anything like that, Like, we didn't have any
Civil War activity here. You know, there was Battle of
Gloria at a past that happened. You had a lot
of Confederates coming up out of Texas that were kind
of active in our area recruitment and trying to you know,
raise money and this and that. But you know, you

(13:15):
get a lot of legend stories. It's just cool. Man.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, And I think what's cool that most people don't
realize what you find in those smaller era and that
especially that eighteen fifties era camp, is that you find
stuff that's typically pretty exceedingly rare for the American Civil
War really as kind of a single view on that era,
right that eighteen sixty one to sixty five era, because

(13:42):
there was so much quantity. Certainly the earlier American Civil
War sits here in Virginia. You're gonna find some of
that cooler earlier stuff like the shako hats or the
different weird makers because you know, the guys who had
been out west in the eighteen fifties, again they were
militia units. Especially if you were from Virginia and you

(14:04):
had done the traveling around kind of stuff, you would
you would still have that uniform. I mean the sixty
one site to where you find that really wild array
of stuff. And I think that's what you guys see
because it wasn't sixty one, it was eighteen fifty or
fifty five or you know that kind of stuff. So

(14:26):
I think that's super super cool. It's just it's just
neat and different material.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
It is, agreed.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I remember it was. I remember it was Scott from
the History Seekers that we had him in heath On,
And it was Scott one time, because you know, I
told the story for Tony and I used to always go, wah, wah, wah,
We're in Colorado, poor us, you know what I mean,
You'd rather be back east. And Scott was like, don't
you dare man. He's like, you know, Colorado was important,

(14:55):
like people were pushing west, like this old Western area.
They brought stuff with them that was all important, and
so when they dropped some, it was like a real
loss for them. And he was really trying, and he
really changed our minds where we were like, you know what,
you're right, and then it invigorated our research and then
when we started finding things like it, it really turned

(15:16):
us around, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, for sure, it's funny. I'm met a gentleman from
Wyoming and that's all he hunts is that period cavalry camp.
And he found two complete swords in a day, and
like just like mind boggling that that stuff is still
out there. And then here's a guy digging eighteen fifty

(15:42):
swords in Wyoming and you're like, Okay, you know, like
pretty cool things out in that era, Tony, what were those?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
What are the navy buttons we found with Beth eighteen
eighteen forties forties tye egle buttons. What were they doing here?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Were those?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
No?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
They were ten back, real small, like cufflink looking size.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I bet those were kepies from a forage cap.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Mmm.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
So they actually went on the button on either side of.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
The they found three of them. Yeah, they found three
of them out interesting thing and Riley Riley freaking identified
abor this right away. Okay, those are eighteen forties ten
back naval eagle buttons. Eagle Navy naval buttons.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
That's cool. Yeah, that's really cool. I mean, that's again,
it's just like I'm I'm familiar with like kepy buttons
being ten back from here. Typically if you find those,
you'll find two with a buckle, and that that means
the hat was dropped there, sure, but it's not like
it's just you know it. There's so many different things.

(16:54):
That's why this is like, can be this all encompassing
hobby that you just find yourself down these works holes
of buttons or bullets or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I mean I think you can do research upon research,
but the lot the more fun research comes when you
find something you don't know what it is, or you've
never seen it before and you never dug it before,
and all of a sudden, then you start going down
that rabbit hole and then you're really learning about it,
and that burns it into your brain because now you've
held that that relic and you've researched it and you
have more of a connection to it.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
It's really cool.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, I think there's there's that kind of research. But
I also think what you guys have too is the
the research where you go out and you find those
sites that you didn't know existed. And I think that
is too. Like, man, you're like picking up the little
bread crumbs to get you there, and uh, that's the stuff.

(17:48):
I'm like, Yes, that's why I like, well, eureka moment
of jumping up and down, like you guys literally digging
gold in Colorado, you know, but or finding those really
cool relics or hidden home sites, that's really really cool stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, Ken and I did some research here late last
year that we've gotten into an area now where it was.
We believe it's it's as probably as virgin as we're
going to get on public land, but the same idea
old homesteads pushing west in the middle of nowhere, and
it's those breadcrumbs leading up to it.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
So yeah, it's it's pretty exciting. Yeah, anytime you do that, right,
you do the research and then you find the evidence
put in a time, no matter what it is, whether
it's gold in the rivers, and you're like, yeah, I
think the gold was falling out as it came around
this bend right there because the floodplain comes down, and
then you go and you look, and all of a
sudden you're like, ah, I got gold nuggets in my pan.

(18:45):
It's just so fulfilling, you know.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, it's super cool. That's something high on my bucket
list to do. And in fact, I saw a fellow
Colorado I think that's it, right.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Colorado and Colorado.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Shamee Flesh was in Virginia. Prospecting for gold this week.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Oh is that right?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah? No, I would have loved to meet him. You know,
he was I was probably actually in his he was
probably in my backyard pretty much, which I would have,
you know, glad to take him treasure hunting for relics
or something like that. He's a he seems like a
really cool, genuine guy.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, he started selling uh Peter who sprinkled gold in
there and kind of you know.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
We might have some of the rest of the rockies.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
That, yeah, some of his clesh crumbs or whatever. You
call that pretty funny? Yeah, I don't. We haven't talked
about it much on the and we got another show
coming up on it when we can talk more about it.
But are you familiar with the HEART group that I'm leading, Matt,
the Historical Artifact Recovery Team. Have we ever talked.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
About that a little bit? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah. Our treasure hunting has two special groups within it
PERT and HEART per is Physical Evidence Recovery Team and
their group of people that volunteer for that to go
out and find physical evidence for law enforcement agencies. And
HEART is Historical Artifactor Recovery Team, which I'm the leader of.
Now that we go out to you know, museums, bring

(20:19):
us out historical societies and all this stuff. We recently
had the opportunity to go out to this a site
called Fort Chambers, which was a oh right around eighteen
sixty four, Governor Evans of Colorado was very paranoid that
Native Americans were gonna just attack everything in sight. So
he mustered this group together of the Colorado Third Company

(20:43):
d in Boulder, Colorado, and he took him from militia
local militias all around, and had him build this fort,
this sad fort called Fort Chambers. Really smile for it.
It was only there. They only were there for a year,
had them muster there, had them trained there, they drilled there,
but they were so poorly equipped, like a lot of them,

(21:05):
A lot of them brought their Kentucky rifles and whatever
they had with them. Uh, they gave them Garibaldi rifles,
which were like the scourge, the cheapest scourge of a
rifle that you could give anybody.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Were they actually issued Garibaldi rounds as well?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
No. I saw. I saw a picture of the rifle,
but not of the round. We found some rounds and
we're trying to identify them. As a matter of fact.
Now I can't say a lot about it because we
worked with you know, local jurisdictional entity, archaeological archaeological uh entity,

(21:50):
and you know what we were trying to do is
the site is very unknown. There's a general area, there's
there's a lot of diary of the person that lived
on the site. There used to be a marker that
said it was quarter mile to the east or whatever.
But there was a lot of gravel mining that went
on there, just a ton and everyone thinks they destroyed

(22:11):
the site. And yeah, is that a Giribaldi round?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
That's the sixty nine. But that's the flat and this
is also talking about a sixty nine with more of
a conical.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, they're typically not not flat like that. That's an
altered round, which is pretty interesting there. Typically, I believe
they were made at this school. So this is the
school show. I'll put it up here for you guys.

(22:46):
I should have held it. This is the North Carolina
Institute for the Blind, dumb and yess wow. So of
course the postcards a little more politically correct, and it
just says North Carolina State School for the Blind. But
it's a it's kind of stuck up here because I

(23:09):
think it's a cool, cool thing. Sorry, but yeah, they
typically made most of their those for those well they're
called carcanoes in the Civil War period, but Garibaldi's are
also the other name, and they were they were made
there a lot. I don't know if all the molds
were just shipped there. It's very interesting that those guys

(23:32):
in Colorado would actually have those rifled muskets though.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, they like I said, they had them bring whatever
rifle they had, and they did have some Garabaldi's that
they issued them. I guess they were like in really
poor condition. They didn't even ship them uniforms until right
before they started marching, so they did a lot of
drilling and interesting, you know, the interesting thing about this group,

(23:58):
this company d is they end up sending them up
to Sterling Springs, where they had they used to call
them the uh, they used to call them the Bloodless
Third because they just weren't in any action or anything.
And they went up to Sterling Springs and they had
such a devastating battle up there.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
A way to absolutely just like ruin your military career.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, but their first battle up in in Sterling Springs,
they became the Bloody Third and unfortunately from there a
lot of them from Company D joined in with Shivington
to go take part in the Sand Creek Massacre that
happened here in Colorado, which is a very terrible event

(24:41):
that happened here.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
And yeah, one of the worst massacres in US history.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, and they kind of so a lot of these souls.
So we were trying to find the site, the fort site,
or prove that it wasn't where we were searching, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
And Ken's not going to bring it up, but he
found something pretty cool. I I know, Look he's grinning
right now. He actually found something pretty cool about I
think bring it up.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
You should. You should tell everybody what you find. It
was like your first target pretty close. Yeah, so you
were trying to find evidence of soldiers or soldiers and
activity an activity, yeah, because it was a sod for it.
You know, you're not going to find a lot of
stuff there. But yeah, so I found that butt plate,
the Kentucky rifle butt plate mm hmm, and finding way

(25:34):
it goes to Colorado was pretty cool. I don't know
if we age it or whatever, but it.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Was you directly relate the story at least one item, right.
I think that's is that the one you sent me
pretty pretty quick in defining it I did.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, Yeah, I wanted to send it right to you.
I have a Yeah, I have it up. You want
me to share this? Let me see?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, what's what's funny is and I don't want to
steal a thunder from camp. But after he had found it,
everybody comes, you know, he well, I think Ken either
messages me on the phone or you know, whistles over
at me or whatever. So I come over and I'm like,
are you serious? Yeah, but the archaeologists that we're at
that was with us comes over and he just goes,

(26:17):
You've got to be kidding me. He says, Now I
have all of this work to do because you actually
found something that would relate to maybe some soldiers that
were here so or just.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
A local farmer that had his Kentucky rifle. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I mean, honestly, man, what did he expect you? You
think you guys are amateurs?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, and that's what we told him.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
They were actually surprised. We've worked in the last couple
of years, We've.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Worked with a couple of archaeologists, and there was the
one time they actually told us to stop at eleven
thirty in the morning because we had so many holes
and fines for them. And it was actually just it
was you. It was Ken, myself and one other person, right, Mike.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
And they said they had already hit it. They already
and they're like, can you guys please stop, like we
don't have enough, too much a document. So this is
the other item I found there. I think this thing,
I have no idea what this is. Man, this is
lad about an inch and a half, so it's not

(27:23):
as big as like a would we say, maybe a
Mussman gun or a uh somebody else? Yeah, yeah, it
would be a Woodroff gun.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
W Woodroff, right, which would people will would equate to
like a swivel gun on a ship. It would have
been like a little bitty short kind of cannon thing
that you would have loaded one in and fired it off.
But kind of same thing would they say about them,
they were they were too big to be called a musket,
but too small to be called a cannon.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, right, in the picture I saw of one I've
got that had a had a sad attached to it,
so it had this lead ball, it had this sabbat
strap above it, and then a wood strap. You've got it, Tony, Yeah, yep,
go ahead and back off. Yeah, there you go. So
I mean that's that's a sabboted round from a woodroof gun.

(28:18):
Isn't that trippy?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah? But that doesn't make any like logical sense. I mean,
I guess I understand it. But why would you sabbot
a spherical shot that was not fused.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
To keep it uh accuracy?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Maybe or well it wouldn't. It wouldn't really matter because
you would just want to roll it down the roll
it down the barrel like most or maybe that was
just a from when they say that's from the Civil War.
I don't know. I don't know enough about argy. I
know enough to be to be dangerous, so just speak.

(29:00):
But yeah, they like a round shot like that, like
especially if it's solid, there's no real intention for keeping
it keeping it front in directional right for the like
a shell. So a shot is solid, a shell has

(29:21):
a cavity in it that would explode. So a shell
would have had a fuse or fuse adapter and you
would have put the fuse into it and slid it
down the muzzle of the cannon, and then that would
have all been in straight line. So the whole idea
with the cannon is that once the powder charge would
light the fuse and that would be where you didn't

(29:47):
so you didn't actually have to It didn't matter if
it had to be in straight So if it was solid,
it didn't matter if it rolled down or not, because
it was just going to fly out anyway. It's a
it's just interesting. I'm not familiar with like saboted Yeah,
sabaged rounds like that. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
We the the archaeologist and with his research thinks it's
just a little too small in diameter, uh to be
a woodroof gun. It's most of those were almost two
inches and that comes in an inch and a half.
The weight is a little less than what he saw.
But what else could that be? Man Like, that's a
big He also somebody else, somebody else told me that

(30:28):
if you didn't have a lot of money, I mean,
if they just weren't well equipped, could have they have
met made a canister out of it? Could it? Would
they have put lead in a canister? Shot of some
type with an inch and a half ball, multiple inch
and a half balls.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean, I guess you could. Yeah, it would
be the same thing as the theory of a buck
and ball. Right in the Civil War or pre pre
Civil War, you had a ball which was like sixty
nine caliber round ball and three bucks, which what we
would know is buck shot, and they would sit on top,
so you had basically four projectiles that came out. So
I guess in theory you could. However, the way that

(31:07):
the cannon gets its power is the fact.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
That the the the igniting of the powder is in
a compressed area, so you would have to have a
sealed area behind it to actually get that compression.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
So the forces explosion would propel the projectile. So would
it or would it not work? I don't know. I'm
not that I don't think it would work. I think
you'd have to have something underneath it, you know. That
other part of that is it could have just been
a casting mold, like to have a lead in get

(31:48):
to make your own bullets in the field. You know,
probably not typical to have it in a round ball form.
But I don't know, or it could not be. It
could not be a wood drift gun. But it could
have been some other smaller diameter gun. Yeah, round, would

(32:09):
you just you just don't know exactly what what kind
of weapony.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Just it's just maybe a little bit bigger than like
a golf ball, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
It was just and then that line in it, like
it just was confusing, strange. It didn't you know, it
wasn't like a sinker. It wasn't you know, it wasn't
anything like that. It definitely it definitely had her. He
was scratching my head. Definitely was exciting to find. I'll
tell you, oh.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, yeah, you did well that day.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, and did you so did you find other things
that would relate to that that that era?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
We found three ringers that the researcher right now is
trying to date. I mean he's looking at Harper Ferry
type stuff. He's like looking at all this different stuff.
What did he what did he tell me? I'll look
up this email he said. He's trying I do. Uh,
he's really trying to figure it out man, to be
able to put his report together stuff, you know, And

(33:06):
we found what we did. What we did is we
we were on this site big flat grounds supposed to
be where the fort was, or we thought that's where
the fort was. And my buddy Jeff looks up behind
this house and there's this huge peaky heel. He's like, well,
that's where the lookout would be, like they would have
a lookout post up there, if anything. It just was

(33:28):
towering above everything. And so we went up there to
look for evidence of some kind of lookout tower and
on the downhill side of that peaky hill we started
finding all these three ringers. They looked like pretty old
dated three ringers. I mean, you know what I mean.
I'll try to find a picture of that.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
But they dropped.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Fired, so it looked like you were doing practice in
the side of that hill or something, you.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's uh think we phoned.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
A gold wedding band too, right, or silver wedding band.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Silver band. We found like some hat pins, like a
lady's hat pin up there, so I think they've been
going up on top of that hill for years doing
all kinds of stuff, hanging out, picnicking, you know what
I mean. But finding those three ringers on the side
of that hill, and it was only on one side
of the hill, it's pretty interesting and the fact that
they were fired. Yeah, I'll see if I can find

(34:27):
a picture as we keep talking here.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's that's cool. I mean that that relates to pretty
much everything that we think about American Civil War camping,
you know, having drill grounds, having places that they would
stay in camp to you know, really, I mean, I
think it it really predates everything. It's the same thing
if you look back to the American Revolution. And you know,

(34:52):
it's funny. I have I have a friend who is
in in the army and and you know, this is
the modern you know, mechanized army, and he's like, do
you know how many things soldiers lose? And I thought
about it. I was like, well, yeah, I metal attect.
So that's that's what I look for. It's just not
new soldiers. He's like the modern soldiers. What we lose

(35:17):
and what you know, He's like, it hasn't changed. It
hasn't changed since the days of the American Revolution. He's like,
you know, whether you were camping or whatever. He's like,
those guys lost stuff all the time, you know, and
even with all the modern fasteners. And then it's just
young kids who were just careless and didn't care. Yeah,

(35:39):
you know, we like to put this like great emphasis
on a button on your jacket or you know, a
coin out of your pocket. That man, they must have
been so upset that they lost this three cent piece
or whatever it was. They probably were, but they probably
also probably also came came and went, you know like, okay,

(36:01):
I'm a twenty year old kid, like, yeah, I'd like
to send three cent home to mom and dad. But whatever,
I'll get some more next week.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Right right. Let me show you his picture.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Uh, let me see here.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
We'll share that one. But there we go. Here's one
of them. Let's see what else we got here? That one?

Speaker 4 (36:27):
That one, what is you have a close up of
that one?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Let me see which one is that?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
That's pretty great?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, yeah, get close to that one.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
So that one, that one presents as a fired bullet,
but the the other one in her hand didn't didn't
quite look.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
No, we had some drop and some fired. Let me
let me get out of here and go to this.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
That's pretty cool though, I mean, what what a what
an awesome thing to find in in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's it's been an experience. We we've been able to
get in good with some archaeologists and some different with
our Heart team and really get in some great historical areas.
For sure, we've been real blessed, uh finding these kind
of things because like you said, it's so scary. It's
it's here, it's during the right time period and things,
but it's it's so scarce.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know, we don't have all.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
These battle sites and and and routes that that soldiers
marched and camped and things like that like you would
back in Virginia. But you know it's still out here too.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well. I mean, I'm ay, I may like gently disagree
with you. I think you have a lot more than
you realize. I think that you know, you look like
from the forty nine ers, Like where did forty nine
ers come through? Straight through Colorado? You know, straight through Oregon.

(38:10):
I think it's it's more prevalent, it's less known, and
the pressure you guys have is so so minor compared
to here in Virginia. You know, people want to come
to Virginia. They know Virginia. You can pick up a
history book from New York State to Florida, Florida to

(38:31):
to California and of one thing, like in history, something
in Virginia is taught not all the history curriculum is
a universal thing, which I can get on a soapbox
about that as well. But the fact is is that
you know, people go, oh, Virginia is old, but there's

(38:53):
a lot of old stuff in Colorado a lot, and
I think that there's a lot more than then people
really like if you put your mind to it the
way you guys have, you you go out and find
it too.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
We don't want it to turn into Virginia.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Best Secret or Ohio. Yeah best kept see Ohio.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, Ohio's with you. There's a lot more stuff in
Ohio than Colorado.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Rocky Mountain life prospecting reminded us that we have Spanish
here too. We had Spanish earlys came through this area
as well.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's something I would love to get on and find
us some good Spanish, old Spanish stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
That would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's pretty pretty epic. Uh. I have
a hard struggle with not going to Florida every time
I see a storm come right, just to go to
the Treasure Coast and try to find one of those
gold coins.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah. After Jim's story, man.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
That you Jim's story, All the stuff around their all
the stuff I've I've seen. I got to spend some
time down there and and get into that, like you
want to talk about like a hidden secret society, Like
go to Florida, go anywhere south of Saint Augustine and
say I found treasure and watch people either their eyes

(40:19):
light up or clam up when you ask them about it.
It is a wild thing. It's like I couldn't I
can never know, but I would imagine like talking to
the mob.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah that's a good Yeah, that's a good analogy, like right,
like one of us or they're like, hey, Hicks, you
don't Yeah, we don't talk about that around here.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, it's it's pretty.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Pretty pretty in that ocean with an anchor.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah you found what? Where'd you find it? And it's
like it's all I mean, man, it's it's so so crazy.
I walked into a couple of shops I got to
last year. We got to go to mel Fisher's Museum,
and I was just like walking through thinking about like one,
what he went through, but then like all the weird
stuff that happened after him, and then like the people

(41:09):
absolutely trying to pirate his own places, and like the
all the things that like mel Fisher did and uh
you know, not only the other people that were trying
to find out where the autosha was, but you know
what Florida tried to do to try to take everything
that he had already found just just absolutely wild to me,

(41:29):
so really really cool stuff though.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
That had to be incredible to be able to see
that stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
My god, Oh man, I took a million pictures and
oh yeah, they have mel Fisher Days which are crazy cool.
Uh yeah, like they like have like a pirate like
kind of that kind of thing that played is amazing
in person. You wouldn't believe that somebody could actually make
that out of gold. That's mel Fisher Days with all

(41:59):
the people. But they have parties and stuff. It's it's
really neat.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
So that went there. Jeez, yeah, look at that thinking
actually hammered that out. But when you when you like
listen to Jim's story, right, like so it's cool, like
to sit back and go, oh wow, cool story, but
could you put yourself in his shoes and what he
was dealing with, knowing what he had and and and
trying to keep it secret and hoping that you can

(42:27):
get back there before other people discover it, or because
he went back multiple days.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Right, yeah, for for folks who are listening. A couple
of years ago, I got an opportunity to go to
to Florida. I mean a gentleman named Jim Tippett. Jim
is probably one of the nicest, uh kind kindest gentleman.
He is originally from Florida, but he lived in Tennessee

(42:54):
most of his life, so he has this weird southern
out of place accent like many people in or you know,
they're either southbounders or whatever you want to call them.
But Jim walked along the beach in Florida after a
significant storm. I found anywhere depends on who you ask.
Between half a million and a million dollars in Spanish
gold coins from the seventeen fifteen wreck, I gotta be honest.

(43:19):
After talking to Jim, you know, I don't think it
ever really sank in until the end. But I don't know,
I don't I couldn't imagine living like I've seen the
videos I've been lucky enough to document his story, which is,
you know, for me, like the best video I've ever won,

(43:41):
my favorite video I've ever made, and to the best
video production quality story, everything like trying to hit one
out of the park again, just find another gym tipping
in the world and they don't exist. But I don't know.
I just don't know if I could ever live in there.
And some of the comments are like on that video,
or like, how did he ever, how did he ever,

(44:09):
you know, get outside of outside of that beach? Like
I would have lived on that beach. I was slept
on that beach. You know. I'm the same way. I
say that now and looking at the story, but man,
I don't I don't know what I would have done.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah, I don't know either. Like it. Okay, for those
of you that are listening and have never seen this
video that Matt produced, it's called A Million Dollars Laying
on the Beach, A real treasure story. The thumbnailse says
feet in the sand, right.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, me stand understand Jim Timbott story.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Right for it, And I encourage you guys to go
check out the video if you want to see something
truly out of this world incredible, not only the story,
but Matt, I agree, it's one of your best videos
you ever put out, filmed really well, absolutely incredible, real quick,

(45:08):
real quick. I'm gonna share a screenshot if it's okay
with you real quick, Yeah, go for it. Wet people's appetite. Yeah,
so that kind of gives you an idea what we're
talking about right there. So, and it's not even touching
the surface.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
So probably in that photo there are four coins in
the center that if you wanted to go and purchase
one would start about seventy five thousand dollars apiece. And
that is not and that's no exaggeration. There's a coin

(45:47):
in that of those four that would probably if you
could find, which would if you could find one, would
start probably about the one hundred and fifty thousand dollars range.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Jeez.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
It's an overstamped coin. So all the seventeen fifteen fleet
were minted in coins were minted in either seventeen twelve
or seventeen thirteen. However, I think that's right. I'm trying
to remember all the facts, so don't don't fact check
me on that. However, one of Jim's coin is overstamped

(46:22):
A thirteen over twelve. There's only one really rarer coin
that's available out of the seventeen fifteen fleet, and that's
called a Royal A royal coin was made for the
King of Spain's personal treasury, and they start a half
a million apiece.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
I mean, I encourage you all to go over there
and check out that video. Jim's excitement is captured is absolute.
I mean you can sit back and say, yeah, I
don't know what I would have done. Man, that would
have been great. But man, his shakingness his because there's silver,

(47:04):
there's pieces of the ship. There is gold, gold, gold,
there's silver, sol shit, all kinds of stuff. There's jewelry.
There's just so much stuff that comes up, and he
had to keep it secret and he couldn't take it
all in one day, and he had to go back.
He brought a friend, didn't he Matt.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, he brought Man. There's so much more depth to
this story too. I would I would absolutely make a
small movie of this. But long story short, yes, he
brought a friend, and he also, like so what you

(47:43):
see of Jim's in the in the video, Jim found
the the you know, the majority, but there's another probably
third times. More like the first day they he said,
Jim said they'd found like twelve or maybe it was, yeah,

(48:04):
like twelve gold coins the first day and that was
between him and his buddy, and I think Jim ended
up with a total of like twenty gold coins something
like that. Plus that doesn't account for any of the
Spanish silver coins, the eight real cobs, all the fun
stuff that you know, like we're like, man, if you
found one of those, you'd lose your mind, let alone

(48:26):
to find thirty cobs and to find eight reals and
four reals just unbelievable story and.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
The story behind the story.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, yeah, And it's so much depth, and there's so
many things, and Jim would only let me tell or
would only speak to a little bit of it, because
I do understand his secrecy. Right, there's always that treasure
hunter's dream of one day that magic happens again, and
especially with the oceans in the beach and things like that,

(48:57):
that that window opens and he has another glimpse back
into that time period. So I get it. I get it.
It would be hard not to be I mean, to
be hawked by that, you know, or that so to speak.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Yeah, And if you're listening on the replay on our
on our audio podcast, I'm gonna post the link to
Matt's video down in the description. Since you're not on
chat here, I encourage you to go over it and
check that out. Yeah, and uh, you know, drop us
a line. Let you know what you think, because it
is an amazing video of an amazing story of an
amazing discovery. What better. It doesn't get any better now.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
No, And it's all the parts and pieces right because
he is a fantastic dude. He is just a good guy.
And it's not one of those villain stories like, man,
it could have happened to somebody else. You're like, no,
it happened to the right person.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
It did.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
So it's just a really cool thing. And then there's
like follow up stuff you know that I love to
make videos about with not with Jim, Like is the
treasure cursed? And I think I kinda kind of alluded
to it when I took when I made this video
initially that some of the stuff that made the editing

(50:15):
room floor, so to speak. But man, I could go
back and we could build another one and just kind
of go sit and talk to Jim like some things
like coincidences or weirdness that happened in life, you know,
because there's all this other deep seated like lore around
these great treasure stories about curses or mysterious disappearances or

(50:39):
whatever the thing is, crooks or murder. But you know,
there's they almost always go hand in hand. But to
actually have somebody who found something like this and then
to go, hey, do you now do you think this
is a real thing?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah? I always wonder about that from the guys over
in England. You see the stories right, like yeah, some
guy metal detectors discovers a gold horde of you know,
gigantic you know, two inch wide good gold coins. You know,
they did that at the detectible one year. They some
guys they had to bring back hoos in everything to

(51:16):
dig all these gold coins out, and they were like
that big around, like they were huge, and uh, I
always just wonder that, like, you know, it's not you know,
are they like Jim, Like did the right people find that?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah? And then there's like you even go back to
like I don't know, like the curse of like Howard Carter,
Like I don't know if you guys go into like
Egyptology and stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Like that, you know, not familiar with that one.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
So Howard Carter Carter is the guy who opened the
Tune tun of too in common the prince Pharaoh, you know,
the the most wealthy, the most improtect or intact uh
pharaoh burial ever discover. Yeah, I mean they had like

(52:04):
all like there's this like Howard Carter like cursed things
that happened to him afterwards. And now granted he's opened
up someone's grave, that's different than digging up a coin,
you know, coins on a beach. However, to some people
there's no difference. So it's kind of weird, like you

(52:26):
kind of can look back on those kind of things too.
I don't know. I'm not saying I believe in it.
I just think it's a either it's interesting happenstance or
it's part of it or just coincidence, you know, I
don't know, hmm.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
You always hear about stories that that like somebody opened
some you know, Egyptian tomb and every member of the
crew has died mysteriously except for one, you know, or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Right, and that was actually like the case of Howard
Carter's crew, like some of them bitten by a cobra.
I don't know what that what it actually was, but
it's like stuff like that. You're like Carter died of
like some food poisoning or killed himself or I don't know,
with the weird stuff that happened to him. But it's
like a whole like lure around him. Like that's another

(53:16):
weird treasure thing that I think is interesting.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Mm hmm. Yeah. A good thing you didn't get hurt
by that moose, Tony. It would have been like, well,
he disturbed the gold, so he right, he got taken
out by the moon.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
It could be. It could be. Although although we uh
yeah we went back and found gold again.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
We didn't get trumpled by Moose that time, so right,
he fixed the curse. Hey, we had some comments come
in from Matt, didn't.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
We Yeah, yeah, let's see.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Early on we had a Swain's re searcher. What's massive
favorite military researcher.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
What's up man, it's been a long time. I got
to hang out with those guys at the very first
dig stock really. Yeah. When I got to I got
to ikin there too.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, the super.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Cool things not most valuable, man. I wish he.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Can. I guess, you can guess, I can guess. Oh
you probably know military I D stencil Is that it?

Speaker 3 (54:24):
That's it? One?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Remember the research we did on that where we were
just confused. I had a bunch of confusing research didn't have.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
To Yeah, I reached I was. I was out on
a local spot and it was it's pretty well known,
it had been pretty beat up. But I found this
little brass tag and I didn't know what it was.
And uh, I put a video up and this is

(54:56):
the early days of my diving career. And I got
back on the boat and put it in my bag.
I put it in my bag underwater, and I was
thinking it was the fossil hunting. I'm not sure what
I was looking for, but I found this, like it
looked like a business card. I was like, that's pretty cool.
I'll put in my bag in the front part because
I think that's where where you wanna you want to

(55:16):
protect this thing. I don't know what it is. So
I get back and I wipe it off and the
very front of it says j Jas w. Period Bradley, Burlington, Connecticut,
Company D Harris Like Cavalry. So that is the id

(55:37):
stencil to James Wolf Bradley from Company D of the
Harris Like Cavalry. The Harris Like Cavalry was out of mustard,
out of Burlington in sixty one or sixty two and
very quickly absolved by absorbed by the second New York Cavalry,

(55:58):
and they went off to fight in the Americans War.
And he happened to lose that stencil in sixty two,
very close to where I live. So there's just like
a ton of history about him. Well not a ton
of history really. We know he goes to the war,

(56:18):
we know he gets out. He goes into the war
with a wife and two daughters. He comes out of war.
We don't know where his wife is, presumably she is deceased,
and his two daughters are listed to being an orphanage.
He files for a pension sometime in the eighteen seventies,

(56:38):
where it's denied. It's really the wording is kind of weird.
It says invalid, so we don't know if it means
he was an invalid or the tension is valid. He
dies about eighteen eighty, and I'll have to dig up
all the research material again because I want to go
to Burlington and see his grave. He's buried in Burlington,

(57:04):
Connecticut and oh no, Burlington, Yeah, it's Connecticut, and he
has two headstones. They have his name identical his his
his regiment, but two different death dates. I think one's
June twenty eighth and the other one's June twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
He's no, he's not.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
He's not good wound.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
So but I mean, if it was a mistake, like
why didn't they throw the take the bad one out
and throw it away? And they said no, we'll just
put them both here.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah, interesting research on people in genealogy and stuff. It
was one of the more you know, mysterious like what
is that about? You know, which makes it fun? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. Why
would you put two headstones?

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah, look at that Tony like he did that research right, right,
and he fell down the rabbit hole with him because
he wanted to know as much as he could learn
about him. You know, he almost feels like he knows
this guy, like he could recite his story everything that
he's learned, you know.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
And it gets it's so like and it's like the
other questions we have, right like just like you guys
looking for that fort or any of anything, we have
whenever we go out and find something like how did
this happen? What was he doing? In the second one
story was terrible at keeping records, So like the American

(58:34):
Civil War was a fantastically documented event from the perspective
of journaling and mapping to now the new onset or
the new invention of wet plate photography. You know, they
pretty much knew where everybody was and what they were doing,
except for the Second New York who apparently was fighting
in everything and keeping zero documents of it.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
The show lot, so yeah, I mean they show up
and they have a they have a monument in Gettysburg,
like cool, they were here? Oh yeah, yeah, what were
they doing? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
They were the covert.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Hill hanging out.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
What else we got, Tony? We had some other stuff? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Uh. Nick from Thin Blue Diggers came in and said,
what's your favorite bottle that you found? And you've done
a lot of diving and found some incredible bottles just diving, right,
I know, I think I know this one too.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Oh, man, did you.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Catch our show last week? Was it last week? Tony?
We had a guy showing what was the bo JP
last week? No? Before that? Then Bobby had a cardinal cathedral.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
That's pretty list. I don't have a cathedral you found
them in floor? Yeah, oh yeah, I mean yeah they
were they were fancy bottles, but they were used everywhere.
That's pretty wild though. I mean that would have been like, Man,
the Wild West in Florida, like probably about the time
those pickle bottles were out and about like fist fight

(01:00:17):
n alligators with your jar of pickles.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Man, it's funny you mentioned that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Yeah, what's your favorite bottle?

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
If you have one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Favorite bottle, man, that's a tough one. How about I
have a favorite bottle that I didn't find. I took
my buddy Jim diving, and he found the US A
hospital bottle, like right in the place. I told him
to go so that that would hurt a little bit

(01:00:52):
because that's that's like I wish I could.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Find one good job. Congratulations nah, But I was super
happy for him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
He told me he's Matt, I've never found a Civil
War bottle. I was like, no way, man. I was like,
you should go right here. I was like, I guarantee
you'll find one. And he comes up in his first
bottles USA Hospital and I was like, I absolutely losing
my mind on the bank. I think I have a
short of it or real somewhere. How about this. This

(01:01:22):
is something I found yesterday and I have absolutely dreamed
of finding one, even though it's not rare. However, it
is old. I did find one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Of these, Oh Inkwell bottle.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
It is an Inkwell goods. Yeah, it is an I
see a little circle there. Oh yeah, that's a graph
fight or iron pannel. So it's from the eighteen fifties
to maybe early eighteen sixties where they switched over into
the smooth based bottles. But it's not open pondel, which

(01:01:58):
would have been pre probably about eighteen fifty five earlier.
So it's a it's a really cool little bottle. And
I dug it out of a what I believe to
be a cooking pit from the Civil War, no kidding. Wow, Yeah,
I dug that yesterday. I dig with a pulse induction

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a lot. This is the one I found this spring,
and it's a it's busted, and I told myself I
was going to find one that was whole, and I
can't believe I actually did it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
That's your first in bottle.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Yeah, I've never found an ink well for all my
digging in Virginia and digging Civil War camps, you know
this what a piece of importance for a soldier to
have just a little jar of ink to write home.
And they're so super cool and I've just never found one,

(01:02:56):
so I was just absolutely thrilled.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Unfortunately, congratulations, man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
My buddies I was with had to go home and
I had to dig it by myself, Which is that
weird part of about metal detecting with your friends, right,
Like you get I got the experience of Jim finding
an amazing bottle different Jim and like me being there
with him, even though something I really wanted to find,

(01:03:22):
but the joy from him finding it definitely overwhelmed me.
For like, I was so excited about that. But I
love sharing the experience as much as I love sharing
the fines, and it's a yeah, it's this is super cool.
I've been really really looking to find one for a

(01:03:45):
long time, and but I was a little bummed they
weren't there to share the experience with me. But the
camp's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Yeah sure, yeah, I bet you're right, man. What a
personal right? Tell you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Like, what a personal thing? You can just picture it
like just just that object or yeah yeah yeah, well
yeah no. From from there it begins like Okay, number one,
Whose was it? What kind of stories were told about
life during that time? From that specific Inkwell that, I mean,
that's amazing his.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Family from that inquest? Right, was he was? He was?
He cold?

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Was he worried? So cool?

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Probably all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
You know, It's funny. I got so the guys I
work with the Fire Department, they know that I'm an
absolute history nerd, and especially where I live. Somebody asked
earlier where do I live. I live just outside of Richmond,
Virginia and Central Virginia, uh, Civil War mecca of of
you know, of anywhere you could ever want to dig,

(01:04:50):
It's thick with history. It is thick. I live actually
properly on the Topotomy Creek Battlefield, which is the the
the precursor to Cold Harbor, And it was Lee's attempt
to route Grant around the right way he wanted to,

(01:05:11):
which he created a huge artillery show and routed Lee
write into Cold Harbor. So just the month of June
eighteen sixty four, there were about eighty thousand more Civil
War soldiers than there are actual residents who live where
I live, So there were a lot of people here.

(01:05:33):
So it is really really cool and you know, but
I've gotten into stories of what people wrote. One of
my favorite journals you can find it online is a
gentleman named C. W. Thomas. He was from the fifty
fifth Virginia from Abington, Virginia, and his family transcribed all

(01:05:56):
the letters that he wrote home. CW. Was fought enlisted
in eighteen sixty one, was captured in eighteen sixty four,
and died in sometime they're about eighteen sixty five as
a prisoner war of Point Lookout, Maryland. But he wrote
the things he wrote were very much not of the

(01:06:19):
things of war, of what we would expect. There were
more of the things of the belonging to know of
what was happening at home. He was really cool. I
don't know if it was the time, the fact that
the way he wrote, or who he was, But every
letter he penned, he wrote to his wife he said,

(01:06:41):
my dearest love, send my faith, send the family my love,
but save the majority of my love for yourself right soon,
right often? C W. Thomas, And I was like, man,
what a way to like? In every single letter? So

(01:07:01):
he writes about being at Gettysburg, and he writes that
he says paraphrasing, but surely we can't last much longer.
The fire is clearly gone from our eyes, something to
that nature. But he knows in retreating from Gettysburg that
there can't be much fight left. And uh, I wonder,

(01:07:25):
just like CW. Thomas, what was written from a camp
in Culpeper, Virginia out of this inkquell?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Yeah, dude, you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Know man, it's so cool. Man, It's like it's it's
this weird like maybe I'm a huge nerd about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
We're all nerds, then we're all, we're all, we're one
of us.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Buddy, in that type of situation, like with that inquell,
like I think of our our friend Garrett Seusser, who's
a history teacher, you know, and you're sitting there teaching
that type of thing and maybe you know you as
a teacher, you bring in those diaries that were transcribed
of C. W.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Thomas and you read them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
You try to you try to to teach.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
It so that students can relate to it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
But then you hold up that inkquell and you're like,
he penned from this ink weell to his family and
as you know, as he's leaving getting you know, something
like that. It brings a whole different perspective into history.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Yeah, and it makes you think, like I think that's
I'm gonna go back to my history soapbox of our
educational system. But it's like we try to relate today
to what happened yesterday, and we can't do that as
people because we didn't live you know, maybe we did

(01:08:53):
live yesterday, but I didn't live in the nineteen fifties
during the periods of segregation, or I didn't live in
the twenties during Jim Crow, and I didn't live in
the eighteen sixties or even to the American Revolution. And
I was certainly wasn't a colonist who came over on
a ship. So we can never like we can empathize,

(01:09:15):
we can have some sort of general understanding, but we
can never know right, and we can only surmise what
we think happened of history in those places unless we're
doing things like you guys are doing with your Heart team,
where you're putting physical artifacts in place to places you're looking.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
For, right, I think it makes all the difference, honestly,
I honestly do. If you're teaching about a location and
you can sit there and pass around things to people
that you're teaching that they can hold that came from
that spot. It just brings a whole different different perspective.
And Garrett's been recognized in Kansas multiple times for his

(01:09:55):
Education awards and things like that because he does bring
that in. He's reached out to me and said, hey,
can you send me relics from this particular site so
I can teach about that event. And it's just it's
just amazing to have those kind of people that are teaching,
because you're right, we can't understand it, but it brings

(01:10:15):
us so much closer to sit there and hold that ink. Well,
oh my gosh, talk about goosebumps.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Yeah, it's really cool. I have a friend who lives
on the Eastern Shore that's helping me with my event
this spring, and he's a he's a teacher, and he
takes flat buttons and things that he finds and he
puts them in these like he calls them. I think
he calls them like discovery jars. But basically they may

(01:10:41):
be full of glitter or full of something where you
can't see the items, so you have to like spin
and turn them and then you have to kind of
discover what the item is throughout the jar and then
but he does writing assignments with like fourth graders about
like tell me a story about who was wearing this button? Right, So,

(01:11:05):
like he does cool stuff like that, and like, man,
I can't imagine like the history that people would be
interested in if you know, we educated in that kind
of manner. I understand it's a lot of work. It's
not easy. These things aren't available to everybody. But man,
that's kind of that's kind of one of my outside
like dreams to build build that kind of curriculum, like

(01:11:27):
for history for like you know, some sort of standards,
Like you know, my wife's a teacher, so we've talked
about it a little bit. I think it'd be super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yeah, how's your event coming? By the way, you got
your event coming up here at the end of this month.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Yeah, I'm super excited about it, a kind of I'm
a super advertised thing. I kind of put it out
to my Facebook group, which is gone Digging, and then
I have a Facebook page, which is confusing because it's
also gone digging. There's a page in a group, but yeah,

(01:12:03):
or on the website. Thanks for sharing that down there,
But yeah, it's a small group thing. I love big
organized events. I think they have their place, but I
think that there's a little more excitement, a little more
intimacy with small groups, getting to know people a little closer.
Camp fire hangouts, that kind of stuff, plus kind of

(01:12:26):
some individual education stuff where we can like sit down
and you can teach me about how you metal detect
wherever you are, and we'll work on metal detecting where
we are for the weekend. So that kind of stuff,
and it's gonna be cool. So we got about three
hundred acres of colonial farmland, which includes a colonial house

(01:12:51):
site that we the history books say it dates to
about sixteen eighty. The scouting, because we do scout the places,
says that it should date at least to the early
seventeen hundreds. We just have to find some things like
your bullets to date to the sixteen hundreds the other thing.

(01:13:16):
So we have the one one site that's a house site.
We have a little newer house site that's kind of
tucked in the woods on one of our other sites
that's probably I don't know, it's a really mixed site
because there's so much newer occupational stuff on there. Like
nineteen twenties. But we found colonial period items, like in

(01:13:40):
the scout that says there should be more stuff in
that field. And we know that there's a colonial period
house site just off site that we don't have permission to.
But with many of these things that the items, you know,
because they were the houses were used for. You know,
we're coming up from not quite three hundred years now

(01:14:02):
that the houses were used for that long suit items
spilled over into the fields.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
So yeah, it's gonna be exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
It's a man, it's a good deal.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Yeah, it's gonna you know, just something kind of different.
There are things like the dig dig stocks of the
World or digging in Virginia. But I really like we're
working towards the smaller, smaller like thirty to fifty people,
uh kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Hunts destination type stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Yeah, destination Like we you know, we did a hunt
a couple of years ago in a town called Farmville.
Farmville had one of the largest Confederate hospitals uh in
Virginia that sat outside of Richmond, and it was one
hundred and fifty acres. So some of the sites aren't
quite as big. But when you don't have as big

(01:14:56):
as sites you don't need as you can't put as
many people. So we try to adjust the site size
to the number of participants, and for this one, we
decided that thirty was We started with twenty five, and
then I had the opportunity to get some more acreage,
so we added five more people. And we certainly could

(01:15:19):
have added more, but I just I don't think that's
fair or appropriate for the folks who are attending. We're
expecting a certain number of attendees, so we try to
keep it low, keep it personal, and yeah, that's kind
of the goal. There's a real possibility we're gonna have
a huge site for the fall, like maybe eight one

(01:15:43):
hundred to sixteen hundred acres, same condiscenario, multiple colonial period
house sites. And it's I hate to say it, but
the eastern shore of Virginia is like littered with Spanish
silver coins, so that site is should be really really

(01:16:06):
good once we secure that after this event. But people
are gonna hate me for it, but we're only going
to keep it to fifty people. Yeah, you know, so
that's a lot of land for it is a handful
of folks around all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Yeah, Tony and I were just talking the other day
about man wouldn't be great to do a destination hunt
like here in Colorado, like you know, something to where
there was multiple things to do and you know, be
great idea. But the problem with here in Colorado, I
mean they just don't have the opportunity for a wild
opportunity with the historic area enough to justify kind of

(01:16:48):
the opportunity, you know what I mean. All the all
the spots that Tony and I are finding with really
interesting relics are small, really small, really focused, really you
know unique, you know, secreted areas. There's just not even
like larger areas that have been hit to death. There's
just not that opportunity here in Colorado. So I don't

(01:17:11):
think you would ever be able to do any kind
of wild hunting here in Colorado. I just I don't
think we'd have our property you know it was.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Yeah, I think you can, but I think you just
have to be honest with people. You know, I understand
Virginia is because of what it is, the history here.
You know, you have to you have to be honest
of what you think you can find or at least
some of the site locations. And I've done your due

(01:17:42):
diligence to understand the sites. If you do that and
you tell people, hey, like, you may find a ton
of stuff from the nineteen twenties. I don't care who
you are. There's still cool stuff to find from the
nineteen twenties, right, you know. But some people don't like that.
Some people will enjoy the experience over top of the fine.

(01:18:02):
So you just if you're smart about it and you're honest,
I think that people will recognize that, at least I
hope so, and they will either sign up for that
or they won't sign up for it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Right, you might find some stuff, but you're gonna have
some damn good barbecue.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Yeah, that's right. There you go, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
The cool part about this event is where we are
catering this this event, so breakfast lunch and dinner for
Saturday and breakfast lunch for Sunday, and our setup day
is on Friday, which is cool because we got a
beach that really got hammered pretty hard. It is a
public beach, but it really got hammered hard over the wintertime.

(01:18:45):
And then the other part of it is when they
repent plenish the beach they dredged out a pretty historic
port and they replenish the beach with the sand from
the port. Yeah, I've seen Spanish coins, I've seen large sense,
I see three ringers. I've seen all kinds of crazy
stuff come out out for the replenishment. Yeah, so you

(01:19:07):
just never know what you're gonna find. And I think
that's pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Neat you're calling it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Yeah, the sure thing on the eastern shore.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
That's awesome. Well, good luck with that. I it's but
not an event. Oh yeah, you know, I really liked
that idea, man really like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
And we've got some leads out. Like I said, we've
got a pretty strong lead for the fall. We may
go back to Farmville. That was a really cool event,
kind of different rule Virginia, lush green grass. So we're
going to going to move around a little bit throughout
the state, you know, but we're gonna try to keep

(01:19:51):
it at that that range of folks twenty five to
fifty and you know, a few hundred acres, thousand acres whatever,
when we get their hands on that's that makes sense
to go and do it and have a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Is that location is that gonna be where a p
I would be recommended or is it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Yeah, so yeah, that's a that's a probably a good question.
So a lot of people know that I hunt with
pulse induction. However, no these places were going or like
pure sugar sand soil, like you know, you guys are
used to digging the rocks out there. This is like
digging in the beach in a farm field. Nice. So

(01:20:36):
you know, anything your mind labs, your dais is Garretts
knocked is whatever you bring is gonna do just fine.
Certainly they're probably gonna we have a potential for a
site coming up in the next the next year if
we can secure it. It was a Civil War man,

(01:20:56):
the Federals came into this this house and eighteen sixty
one on the Eastern Shore. It's got about three hundred
and fifty acres that surround it. They lived in the
house from sixty one to sixty five, learned that the
war was over, threw a big party and burned the
house down. So when they left they had four years
of occupation all around this house. Now I know personally

(01:21:20):
that it's been hunted pretty hard, but with a lot
of older machines. So those older machines missed stuff. I
did take my PI machine to that place, and I
stayed for about two and a half hours in about
a thirty by thirty area and dug coins and buttons

(01:21:40):
and bullets, and it started snowing, and I was like,
do I have to leave? And my buddy, whose permission
it is, is like, you have it moved. He's like,
why don't you go scout? I'm like, because I look,
look what's in my podcast. You know. But but that
kind of stuff is going to be the place where,

(01:22:00):
you know, we're gonna tell you, hey, if you've got
a giant coil in here, you're gonna want to use it,
because that's some of those places are going to be.
You're gonna need some real depth to get down there
and get after it. But we think there should be
pits in that place. That's the other part about some
of these places that we're looking for. We're looking for

(01:22:21):
colonial sites that also afford the opportunity for people to
learn how to excavate either a midden which is a
colonial period trash pit, or maybe a privy if we're
lucky enough to locate one of those, or you know,
a dump of some sort. So we're looking for sites

(01:22:42):
that are diverse, not just in surface targets, but the
educational aspect of hey, we found a pit here, come
dig it with us. We're gonna give you everything you find. Yeah,
you know, because you're gonna you're gonna dig it out
with us, or we're gonna all gonna do it as
a group.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
If you've never experienced digging a it out with a
bunch of buddies, man, it's actually it's actually pretty pretty
cool experience.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Like I, I didn't get in and dig it was
always pretty much done when I got there. But when
I went with you to digging in Virginia that time
when we've come up on a big pit being dug
out and there was seven or eight people standing around
or in the pit, and they kept switching each other out.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Yeah, I mean you doug that like a little small
like kind of cooking feature.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Right right, yeah, you know, but like old bone handled
knife out of there and yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
And you know that's where you really get like the
hands on part that you're like, no, this, you want
to look for this, you want to edd you know.
So hopefully like for this hunt, we have folks from Texas.
Brandon's coming up from Alabama. We have Minnesota, Illinois, or Indiana, Delaware,

(01:23:54):
New Jersey, and New York. So like it's I mean
probably i'd say seventy percent of our folks are coming
from out of state.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Wow, that's great. It's a great turnout for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Yeah, it's pretty cool for you know, a small little
event and not like not really pushing it hard, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
So I should have jumped on it early, man, I
should have. I should have.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Jumped on before there's time. There's there's time in the
in the future. This won't be the last.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
So yeah, very cool, very cool. All right, Well, hey man,
you've been a great guest, Matt. We knew you would.
I appreciate you coming on with us and just hanging
out with us and chatting. It's really interesting that ink
bottles just got my goosebump. Still, I love it over here, man,
it really does. It really does well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
You know, as always, guys, I feel, you know, right
at home hanging out with you guys. It's just a
shame we live thousands of miles apart. But it's true.
Like like I said last time, it's probably best for
our wives, right you hang out? What are you doing?
I'm hanging out with Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Yeah, I don't know how later. I don't know how
Tony and I stay married, man, because like more than
we talked to our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Well, we have a fourth companion. Adline would be up
in the next.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Oh yeah, well yeah, that'd be fun. It's been fun
watching her grow up. Man and your guys' relationship is
really special.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna have a real uh, real time on
my hands when we hit about twelve years old and
she's like, Dad, I want my certification to go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Die the sure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Yeah, We're not going to have a boat tender. I'm
not going to have It's just going to be me
sitting on the boat waiting for together. All right, it's
gonna be awesome wild.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
That's great. Well, any final words, Matt, and we'll put
you down the green room and then we'll have a
little chat after the show.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
No, thank you guys, as always, your show is top notch,
second to none, fan fantastic. Thank you guys again.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Thanks money, We see in a minute. Awesome another guy,
I could talk to you for hours and hours. Yeah.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
One of the things that I've I've learned over the
years with with Relics radio. Here is just the guests. Man,
they just knocked out of the park. We can see
we're on for an hour and a half, you know,
which which when you're working seems like forever. But when
you're talking to people about Inkwells and C. W. Thomas

(01:26:33):
and I mean, you know, diving for onion bottles, I mean,
it's just, you know, hour and a half's done.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
It's like, you got to be kidding me. Man. Almost
every single guests we had on here, we get down
to talk to him in the green room and they
almost every one of them goes for you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
That's it. No, we got to come back on because
I had so much more to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Right yeah, right, great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Many loved it, loved it, and uh, you know what,
I think we put off England this year.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Yeah we did.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
But I think we're going to need to get to
Virginia in the fall. I think we're gonna have to
make that one happen. There's lots of events. You and
I have talked a lot about this. There's there's events
popping up all over the place. Yeah, non stop everywhere. Uh.
And some of the manufacturers having difficulties, you know, keeping
up with as many events, but uh, you and I

(01:27:30):
I think we obviously want to do more traveling. Twenty
five is gonna be a little bit light, but I
think Virginia should be on the list. That's just my
two cents.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Yeah, let's continue to talk about it. I know that
we're trying to get us out to England in the fall. Yeah,
and just couldn't make that happen this year. But yeah,
we can probably make Virginia work.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
I think Virginia is a little bit easier. Yeah, so
let's let's make that happen. Uh, let's talk to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
No, No, we'll just.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
It. Yeah, well they're not listening, so yeah we can
say that right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Great, all right, man, what do you got going on?

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Fifty to eighty adventures? On YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, rumble, uh,
anywhere that you can search for fifty two eighty ventures.
We'll find me a couple more weekends here of getting
this house done, and we're gonna get jumped back on
the horse for uh are you smarter than a rella hunter?
Our weekly show of trivia on Sunday nights. Good, good

(01:28:30):
time and uh a lot of fun with people. So
stay tuned and reach out to me on social media.
I love talking with everybody. I'm gon get messages all
the time and love to see people pop up here
on Rocks Radio too so and also check out Rush
to the Rockies Rendezvous twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
There you go, all right, thanks man. Yeah, you can
find me anywhere at Adventures in Dirt. That's right, Adventures
in Dirt anywhere on social media, just like Tony was saying,
who would have thought I'd be this old and have
social media stuff going on? But Adventures and Dirt. You
can check me out over there. Hey, next Wednesday, we
got another great guest with a guest with us. Make
sure you tune in then, and sure sure share out

(01:29:11):
the show, you know, I mean, if you enjoy Relics Radio,
tell your friends about it. We'd love to get more
people here in the chat group for sure. For those
you want to catch us on the audio only podcast,
go over and find us anywhere you find podcasts. Just
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Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Spreaker, any of those places you

(01:29:34):
can find relicx Radio. Eight years of relicx Radio. I
may add over two hundred and sixty thousand downloads, so
join us over there on the audio only podcast. Everyone,
have yourself a great week, have a great weekend, go
get the good stuff and tell us about it. We'll
catch you next Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Thank you so much for listening to Relix Radio. We
will see you back here next week for another exciting guest.
Until then, get out and dig it all.

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