S8 E14 - Metal Detecting and Treasure Hunting Talk with Ken and Tony - Relics Radio show

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everyone, Wednesday night here on Relics Radio. Good to
see everyone tuning into us tonight. Yeah. Wow, we got
a lot to talk about tonight. Just thought you gotta
bring you guys along with us. We'll have a nice conversation. First,
I need to bring in my co host G two
eighty Adventures, Tony hey Man.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Wednesday morning, Wednesday night. I'm doing well. I'm doing really well. Man.
I am excited for tonight, mostly because we've been having
good weather in Colorado and it just feels like everything's
kicking off for twenty twenty five for us here in
Colorado at least to just start acting and treasure hunting.
And I mean, we have so much on our plate

(00:44):
right now, the things that we've talked about and planned for.
It's like do we really get to go to work
because we just have so many, so many things to discuss.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Especially I didn't If I didn't work, i'd be busy.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
You know, I know, right, I know, I know. Yeah,
we're gonna talk about We're gonna talk about metal tech TTIM,
We're gonna talk about treasure hunting. Yes, some some pretty
cool stuff with treasure hunting, and there's some other things
that we just kind of want to generally talk about tonight,
and I really think tonight's gonna be wrote interactive evening. Uh,
the chat's just absolutely rocking right now. So I'm in fact,

(01:20):
I got a question.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I got a question for people in the chat in
a little bit and we start talking about research and
some of the research we've been doing and some of
the techniques we've been applying. I will I'll ask a
question a little bit later and we start talking about it.
I'll need some help. I need some help from y'all.
Come on, help me out here.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Help. Yeah, oh yeah, look at this. I got to
throw it up there already. Are we not gonna mention
how Ken is now a Netflix star, a superstar.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Don't even look at me. Don't even look at my heart,
don't even look at me. This guy right here to
the head, it's my point zero zero zero three seconds
of fame.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
We alread you know what.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
We are going to talk about that tonight as a
matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
So yeah, let's just.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Talk to the chat. Let's let's let's jump to the
chat right now and see who we got joining us,
because this is all about you guys. We've already got
quite a few people here, and you're not gonna believe this.
Guess who's first in the chat tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Look at that right on point.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I know, man to Digger early too.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's pretty good, pretty good thing.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's good to have Tim on. I know he's kind
of I think he's been kind of absent in the
last couple of weeks or he checks in late and stuff,
So good to see him on early for us. How
about mister Bill Hayes.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Hello, howdy all.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Metal Sharks with the three shark emojis there?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Sweet Metal tech s.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
D Hello, We're just getting ready to start that job
back up on Monday in South Dakota. But I am
not going yet. I'll probably be there in a couple
of weeks, probably a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, SD says hey,
mister Hayes, doesn't address us or anything like that, and
then it comes back and says, good evening, Tony, So
we're good. I'm just kidding. Relic Jedi, Hello to all.
Relic Jedi is starting to become a staple here every
night or every Wednesday. Divorce Awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
E Tector a big nerd Yeah yeah, Tector Etector.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
We already mentioned Dave, but the full good evening, everyone,
Good to see you. Let's see then blue Diggers. Hey,
I made a post earlier today. Nick did a he
did some merch for a fishing company and hosted it
over on Facebook. Hats Coasters, I mean, speaking of coasters,

(04:04):
I've got my whiskey on it right now, but Coasters
a whole bunch of stuff for this company and posted
on Facebook, and so I passed that along. If you
guys need any merch man, nixt nixed the guy to
hook up, I mean, just reach out to him on Facebook. Yeah,
or go over to go over to my facebook on
fifty two eighty adventures on Facebook and check it out
and then reach through him that way.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Mm hmmm. Clad how are you good to see you?
Good to see you your cloud on a lot of
the live streams.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I do too, Yeah, very act, it's it's great,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Oh there you go, and you're on Froze. I thought
you were screenshotting yourself.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Pa relic Hunters. Hello all, So lurker Troy went live
on troy Instagram I think the other night.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Oh yeah, no longer lurking Troy.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
No longer lurking out there and everything.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Uh oh cool, Matt says, uh, looks like tornado just
dropped in my town in southern Illinois. We're good, all right.
I said it was a small one.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
It was.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, that's that's no joke. That stuff's pretty pretty crazy.
Copper Joe joining us from from up north, and let's
see a couple more here we'll get started, East Idaho Digger.
Good evening there, East Idaho Digger. E. I d oh,

(05:39):
that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I d hell. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Jim Steele is a huge supporter. He actually won two
Contact two giveaways that we've had I think this year,
and Jim's won two of them already.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
So yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
You have is mine? Is mine lagging?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oh yeah, big time?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Oh shoot you I'll rope hop.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
You're freezing. I don't know if anybody else or maybe
it's me. Maybe I'm lagging. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Mine seems fine. You're you're you're, you're all right.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
You're videos frozen right now?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Oh shoot and.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Here here you hear your audio? But you're you got this.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, we'll just keep going. If you can hear audio.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Sure, Yeah, you're breaking up there too, kind of popping.
I don't know, is it just me? You know that
the people hear that, it's not it's not distracting anything.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, great, great, who said.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Something about tornadoes? Go back up there.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Uh you're talking about that, Matt, Yeah, Ski Searcher.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, you know we uh, my wife and I just
watched there's a documentary I think on Netflix maybe about
the Joplin tornado in Joplin, Missouri, back from twenty eleven. Man,
that was devastating, devastating. I you know, I of course
knew about it because it was all over the news.

(07:12):
But you watch this, you watch this documentary and you're
just like, oh my gosh, like, how terrible. That was terrible.
So if you want to learn more about that and
watch a good documentary that really puts it into perspective,
that's definitely a good good documentary for sure. Let just
look it up.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Let's kick off and start talking about metal detecting.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, we got out. Why did some metal detecting?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I do want to say this real quick. I don't
know if anybody knows because I haven't really said much
about this yet, but check that fancy gall at right there,
dun dum. I'm just kidding. I posted it everywhere.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's the secret weapon right there, the secret weapon.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'll just okay, I'll just tell you this real quick.
I put it on and I went out on my
lunch hour. Where I work at, we've got like an
early late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds home site, and
I went out there on my lunch hour. I texted
Ken when I went out there, and we've pounded this thing.
We've had Ken and I have been out there a

(08:21):
couple of times. We've taken other people out there. We've
pounded it pretty hard. There's just a lot a lot
of iron there. First target that I pulled was a
spencer casing, and about thirty minutes after that, I pulled
a nineteen sixteen wheetpenny. And immediately after that, I pulled
an eighteen eighties Indian headpenny. That was it. After like

(08:42):
an hour and a half, I was sold.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Hunted out, man, hunted out, definitely hunted out. About you
went there and you nailed. I couldn't believe you started
sending me pictures man in that same area. Gosh, now
they're saying I'm lagging, So yeah, maybe it is me.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Okay, we'll keep I can hear you fine, so we'll
keep going through it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I'm just gonna spend the whole show like this, don't
move no.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
So I love it. I abstoually love the M nine.
I've posted a lot of mind Lab sites. People are
saying the eight is great, but the nine is kind
of the combination of the eleven and the eight together.
So you're getting more depth with the nine the separation
of the eight, and you get the best of both
words with both. I am saying I'm dumb. I actually

(09:35):
texted Kenny said, sorry, man, I'm gonna have to destroy
the D two now.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Tim said he's had one of those on his dais
ever since he bought it.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
He loves the nine inches good, it's good. Hey what
I mentioned real quick? X marks the spot.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
X marks the spot goodness. See it right.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, it's been a little bit thanks for a while.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Ye thanks Mark.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, so I'm pretty pleased. I can't wait to get
back out. We've got some trips coming up here planning
for us, and uh, I think you know what, to
be honest, I think we need to go back to
some sites that we've already been to so I can
kill it over there too.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
So you can rub my face in it. We had
a good time giving each other the business as soon
as I came in.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, oh yeah, you know what I mean. You and
I went out a couple of weeks ago, and uh
we did pretty well.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
We did, man. We walked and we searched and we walked.
It wasn't just like, hey, we door knocked that house
right there, and we knew exactly where we're going to go, right.
We had there's a map dot.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
We know how we know how well those you know,
one hundred and fifty year old map maps. Look, you
know in real life when you when you uh put
them overlaid over the current maps. We know how the dock
out is right, It's exact.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
You go to the spot and I'm like, we're right here,
we're right here. We're looking around and there.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
If you say that we're right right here, we're right here.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
We went too far now let's go back, you know.
And then all of a sudden, Tony'd be like foudat,
He'd be way on the top of the hill. He'd
be like found at.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
So I mean, yeah, we're in the middle of the
Colorado plains. Out in the middle of the plains, there's nothing.
There's not a house for miles upon miles, probably a
town for at least I don't know, fifteen to twenty
miles around. It's out in the middle of nowhere. And
you're wandering around looking at the map dot and going

(11:36):
it's got to be here. And you wander another hundred
yards and all of a sudden you hit a I
don't know, twenty by twenty stretch of bottles, you know,
Dinnerware Springs, Yeah, Mattress Springs, and like, I think this
is it. Guys, so found it, found it, And it

(11:59):
was on the map dot. By the way, Yeah, it
was not. It was not, I will say for just
because we were in the right state.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
We were at least close to that.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
But it was fun. I mean, it's always right. That's
that's it's really rewarding when you go on a trek
like that. And because we've been on tracks like that
where we haven't found it, like we've wanted it all over. Go, man,
this map must be wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Well, and and we had three dots that we were
trying to find. One of them. You've already hunted. The
other one was kind of across the street we were
looking for, and then this other one was, you know,
almost almost a mile off of any road in the
middle of a field. And we wandered. We were like,
you know what, let's let's just go. We want to
find something maybe that's virgin that people haven't been digging

(12:52):
out before. And we found it. We found a nice
hole that was surrounded by a lot of good stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, now that's interesting too. Right, there was this huge divot,
that huge hole that we couldn't see with the eye
until we got right up on top of it. It
was probably what fifteen feet in diameter?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Oh yeah, and uh oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
So we just started Yeah, we thought, okay, trash pit.
We saw kinds of iron stuff started going all around.
It wasn't getting anything. Man, We were like, come on,
stuff's gotta be here. We went, you probably thirty forty
feet away from it, kind of did the whole orbit
around it, and did all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
The man, some good stuff, found some old buttons. You
know what I wanted. I did want to mention everybody
in the chat right now needs to congratulate Ken because
Ken found a rare shotguns headstamp. Yeah, tell us a
story about that.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't know if I wondered, because just the other day,
you go, hey, I was looking through my pouch. I
found the same exact one. It's in much better shape
than mine was.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I was like, I was going through my bag and
I was pulling out the stuff. I'm like, do I
keep some of this stuff? So I was looking at
the head stamps. You tell them about it because you
I did it first and you had h it's a
good story about where it went from there.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, shoot, ain't gonna probably people you didn't have that up.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I was gonna know.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm not gonna show it. I just was I need
to be able to tell people what it is. They're
not gonna wonder what is. People might know. A couple
of people knew, most people didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, So I found this shotgun headstamp, like we all do,
and I started, uh the circle on the twelfth.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Was it the twelfth Georgia?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And no, it was the sixteenth Georgia.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
The sixteenth Georgia's way more rarer.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Right, the uh So, yeah, I found this head I
found like four head stamps, and they all looked there
was like Winchester's and Peters and this stuff you always
find and uh, I just I didn't recognize this, just
looked odd. It was called an MFA Company pointer shotgun
headstamp sixteen gauge. So have you guys ever heard of

(15:08):
MFA company pointer.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, we had a good guesses as to what it meant,
things that we probably can't say live on on the
podcast MFA F phase.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Didn't you say mutter efforts anonymous or something like that,
great manufacturer of the old number sixteens. Yeah, that was funny.
But yeah, So here's the thing. I looked, searched online,
didn't see anything on it. Went to cartridge Corner because
that's where you.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Go fantastic resource.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yep, cartridge corner. Yeah, couldn't find it nowhere on cartridge Corner.
So I'm talking to other people. I'm putting it elsewhere
and man, MFA m period F period a co O
on the bottom of the headstamp pointer at the top
and sixteen on each It doesn't even say gauge, just

(16:01):
as sixteen. So what I end up doing is I
ended up what I ended up doing that I ended
up emailing the guy that runs this website cartridge corner.
I kind of gave him an email and said, hey,

(16:21):
I'm trying to find information on this MFA. Do you
happen to you hapen to know what it is? And
of course I didn't think he'd even respond, you know
what I mean. He immediately responds and says, oh, yeah, yeah,
I know exactly what that is. It's a MFA stands
for Meriden Firearms Company in Meriden, Connecticut. And oh yeah,

(16:44):
of course, oh yeah, sure, yeah, those guys, yeah, and
I go, wow, nineteen oh five to nineteen eighteen. Woh,
that was sort of the age of that. And that's
why we like researching those headstamps, right, because it gives
you some kind of age date and even though you
can be used no longer and all that stuff. Yeah,
so go at the top. Wasn't that right there? MFA?

(17:07):
That's that looks like it's it.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
But so anyways, yeah, I can't find it. I don't
know where. Where's the place to search?

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Go all the way to the bottom, this is it.
You can't search very much. I think it was all
the way to the bottom. Let me see here. Yeah,
so anyways, he put he sends me an image of
his website and says, here it is. You know, this
might help you out, This might help you out, And
I'm like cool and uh so yeah. He says, Hey,

(17:39):
by the way, I don't have an image of the
number sixteen of the sixteen gage. Would you mind if
I used your image? And I said no, not at all. Man.
You want me to take a better picture because mine
it was hammered, right, Mine picture was just it's a
crappy shape. Crappy shape. He goes, no, I can use
I can straighten out with a photoshop. So he used

(18:02):
this terrible picture of mine and he made that picture
right there. Yeah, black the black dot on it, black dot.
And he said he gave me credit. I didn't think
he would even give me credit, but he gave me.
He gave me credit for it. So yeah, black dot.
He chose Ken King photo from Ken King or something
like that. So that was pretty cool. So yeah, I

(18:24):
got something that made the cartridge corner. That's pretty cool. Yeah,
so that's what it is. Yeah, he says he throws
shotgun shells away. Yeah, you know, you know, every now
and then you're gonna find one that's kind of cool
or rare. And since I couldn't find it anywhere. I
thought it was really rare, but it was just sort

(18:44):
of rare. There's some I guess it's definitely rare.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
But they had at least they shot at something twice
out there because I found one as well.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, Tony a little bit number of days later, he's like, hey, man,
you know, hey, you know, I'm I mean, let me
show you. Let me show you this. Uh, let me
see share screen. I'm gonna do that that one. Sure.
Oh yeah, yeah, look how condition that was in, right,

(19:16):
and he turned it into that other picture. I couldn't
believe it. He cleaned it right up, and but yours.
I look at Tony's man, there you go. Look at
that's in such better condition. Look how sharp that is.
Oh man, we should take a picture of that and
send to the guy like that.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
No, he did a great job.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
That guy came king. Yeah, that guy didn't find anything. Man,
here's one that the way you should look.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, congrats to you. I mean it's awesome and uh,
you know a way to add way to contribute cuns
to the hobby and reference and all that kind of stuff.
So yeah, that's awesome, man.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, it was fun anytime you can find something like
that that either don't know what it is or you know,
you can't find immediate information on it. It's always intrigue, right,
you're like, darn it, somebody's got to know.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, like you said, you know, most of the time
you know right away you know, oh it's this. You
know you've seen them one hundred times before. Well this
one was like, well wait a minute, we've never seen
this of what does it mean. You know, we've done
the same thing with Spencer cartridges as well, with saw
or us on it or you know, a bunch of
different things around the bottom, because normally they're just playing

(20:23):
rim fire. Yeah, if they have a stamp on them, like,
oh my gosh, this is really cool. And with that then,
like you said, we can kind of narrow it down
as to you know, that specific time period and that
helps really date the site which fits what we were
looking for.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah. Yeah, that was a good trip there. We found
all kinds of cool things and it seemed like, you know,
when we were just orbiting that ring and started coming
in tighter to the edge of that ring, all uh
stealth diggers right right right, they call it uh orbiting orbiting. Yeah,

(21:04):
ticking on orbit. Yeah, but when we got closer to
the to the to the opening, it's when and we
slowed down. Boy, things just started popping. Like you must
have stayed in that one spot for I don't know
how long you were in a six by six area
fort well you you found.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
The spoon bowl right over there, and I was kind
of off, and then you kind of moved on and
I went a little bit further towards you, and then
I just hit a spot man, a couple of buttons,
what other stuff I don't remember now. I found a
rains guide, really cool rains guide. Actually that's actually pretty cool.

(21:45):
That's broken, yeah, broken. You know they were riding side
saddle with that one or something.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Five h five adventures. Hey to see her pretty soon
here Colorado?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Cool? Yeah? I found gold, Yes you did. Do you
want to let people know I found cold? We were
going to pass over that.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'm not going to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, yes, yes, you found you actually found a sweet
piece of gold. Please tell them about that.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I found gold. Yeah, plated plated, yeah, gold plated. Matter
of fact, sell then clean that up. I sail them,
put anything on it to clean it up more than this.
But yeah, this is a no gems I could find,

(22:37):
But hey, I found a ring. A ring is a
ring is a ring.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It's an old ring for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean the site that we found it on and
just the condition of it, and and and we've said
it before, a lot of stuff out here in Colorado,
we're not finding old valuable stuff. They didn't have it.
These are the pioneers that came out of here, and
you know, the eighteen hundreds, they didn't have it. So,
I mean, gold gold plated fits exactly what you know

(23:02):
where we're at, you know, in the planes Colorado, late
eighteen hundreds. So too bad we didn't find the stones
because I mean I kind of tried to pick up
some of the dirt after we plucked it, just to
try and see if we could find somebody. I was
looking for some red rubies, oh man.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Right, Yeah, I was looking at inside, trying to see
if there was anything written.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Of course they're way on no junkie ring like this,
but yeah, man, you were sifting through that thing. For sure.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
We need to go back out now because I got
the M nine so I can find all of the
the silver.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, we've missed, I know, a lot of people that
follow my Facebook page probably seen all these posts. But
you know, we talked about it on the show all
the time, but every time we find some of you
got your research, Like that shotgun headstamp, right. I found
this button and I went searching over this button just
to find out where it was from, and it just
had the coolest story, Like it led me to the

(23:59):
company me and then I got to read all about
the company and the lawsuit they were in and the
nineteen forties eventually, but yeah, it was pretty cool. Here
let me show you that. Bring that up here. Remember
that button I do. It's really it's got a great story. Yeah,

(24:19):
and you were kind of.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Like alluding to what you thought it looked, you know,
this article of clothing that it was on, look like, yeah,
I think you're dead on with it. I absolutely think
you're dead on. So tell us about this one.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
This is Towers wire fastened. It says on it. It's
got the big wire fastened. Those of you saw my
Facebook page post, you probably know what that's part of.
But here's what's Here's what it's from Towers Company. AJ
Towers Company made these slickers. It is these slickers and

(24:56):
these slickers had these kind of buttons on them right there. So,
I mean, can you imagine of these pioneers coming through
and his wagon heading west, he's got his cowboy hat on,
he's got this slicker on, he's soaking wet, and he's
got one of these buttons it's on.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
It's just oiled, oiled canvas.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Coiled oiled canvas.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's all right, right, but it was very it kept
you dry.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
It did. Yeah. And so here here's the thing, right,
this is ant I found that said they also had
fish brand waterproof oiled clothing, slickers, pommel slickers, and hats. Okay,
so cool. Now here's what it says, following our successes
at Philadelphia, Chicago and other expositions. So the Philadelphia Exposition

(25:44):
was in eighteen seventy six, right, it is that one
hundred year exposition. It's where I found that other piece
that it is back Watchback. Chicago I think was like
a nineteen oh six or something like that. And then
they were in the Saint Louis World's Fair. Well, that

(26:06):
means that company's been around for a while. Yeah, right,
but when you read up, but when you read up
on the company, it it wasn't. It didn't say that.
It said it was like a nineteen oh six company,
which was trippy, right, Like, So my research showed initially

(26:28):
that the AJ Tower Company was around from nineteen oh
four to the nineteen thirties, and Buckle Boy said the
sort of same thing. But the old promotional flyer had
said they had success. The Philadelphia Exposition was eighteen seventy six,
Chicago was eighteen ninety three, and the Saint Louis was
nineteen oh four. And then I later saw that they

(26:49):
were involved in a lawsuit in nineteen thirty and also
in nineteen forty five. So the company's been around. They
were around for a long time.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, right, but that but that but that oil rain slick,
I mean that again. That's yeah, Colorado Pioneers traveling west,
like you know, you're in the middle of nowhere, no
cover for these storms and stuff like that. It's what
they wore out here, you know, the cowboys on horses
and such. Such a cool story. And you know when

(27:18):
we found it, you know, it said tire towers wire fastened. Yeah,
and we're like, oh, it's something electrical.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Ken Ken doesn't accept those speculations. He does the research
and all of a sudden it goes down the rabbit
hole and you've got vintage advertisements and pictures of it,
and that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I thought it was cool, man. Yeah, I'm like, yeah,
you got to find enjoyment and the little pieces of
crap that you find, right, Yeah, So yeah, I found
some cool things out there.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
We should have.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
We walked our butts off all the way out there,
I know.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
But you know what, we didn't find any dig holes.
So that's good news.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
That's good news, right, that is good news. We actually
found a school site. We found a school yeah, oh yeah.
We had to like three or four different sites. And
what do we find at the school site? Oh my gosh,
you guys aren't gonna believe it.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
That the amount of it was a because Val Kilmore
passed away. I have to use it a top gun
movie movie line reference. It was a target rich environment. Yeah,
remember when when Maverick goes into the to the bar. Yeah,
let's just say the school site was a target rich environment.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
It really was. It was. It was definitely a target
rich environment. It was ridiculous. Man. We didn't stay there
very long at all. And Tony and I love school sites, man, Like,
that's one of my favorite favorite places to hunt.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
So the school used to sit right at a t
intersection where we were at, and apparently that is the
hotspot for the last hundred years to step off to
the road and shoot your guns over to where the
school site was. Because we found about twelve thousand pounds
of spent cartridges and at least three times that and lead, so.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
You couldn't even pick anything out, not even anything. Every
target was it was just all lead. Yeah, it's just ridiculous.
So we were like, yeah, we don't want to stay here.
We got other places to look. Strasburg, Strosburg.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, reach out to me, Brandon. I'm interested to hear
about that too.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah. Yep, Strasburg is a place that I haven't hunted,
I mean looked into it, but I know people have
talked talked about it. Yeah, it's real close to you,
real close to you.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Good site up, good sites out there, old old area
coming out I seventy.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, they have some old trails out that way and stuff. Yeah.
I got out the old trail book here recently. We
were looking at some stuff seeing. Uh, I found this
place where all these trails kind of came together at
a ranch, an old ranch, and they gave me the
name of the ranch, and I'm like, oh, man, oh,

(30:16):
let me see who the owner is on this plot
of land. And man, I'm telling you what it's like.
It's a it's a it's farming ranch LLC.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Right. So here, we haven't had good good luck with
getting permission or even in touch with owners. When a
piece of land is generally in an LLC, you know,
it's usually a large open area leased out for cattle.
People don't want you know, mopes out there searching for
stuff and quote hunting. So yeah, we haven't had uh

(30:54):
very much luck with that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah. Or LLC's or trusts, you know what I mean,
family trusts own it or something. So let me ask
you guys, right, this is the question I'd said at
the beginning of the show, is going to ask you, guys,
what do you think about this? So this one land company,
cattle company, farming company name has to do with a ranch, right,

(31:22):
So let's just call it like Jack's Ranch LLC or something, right,
And you look on the ownership map and they own
land everywhere, land everywhere, here, here, here, here, here, here, here,
and on all their properties. There's probably six or seven
house sites on it, so a real target rich environment

(31:42):
for us to go after. But you know, how do
you find out to contact that LLC? Well, I'll tell
you here's my question for you. Because I was able
to find out about the LLC and the people that
own that and own that ranch and all that property
live in my hometown, so gods, so going up and

(32:03):
knocking on the door is a doable thing for me.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
But here's the thing, Like this family, they're real cattle ranchers.
They're real ranchers, you know what I mean. They're not
just businessmen that own this LLC. Like they get up
every day and go out and they're they're definitely cowboys
and they're definitely ranchers. I was reading all about them.
I know a lot about them, but I was looking
up them and you know, the older father just passed

(32:31):
away not too long ago, but his son, his son,
his grandson, great grandson, all those people are still involved
with the business. Really dedicated to the Western way of life,
this whole thing, right, So I'm trying to figure out
how to approach these people. When you look at the
address where the main ranch head LLC is at it

(32:54):
is this giant, like trillion dollar home on this private lake.
You know, that's that's where the old man lived. The mother,
the mother, the matriarch still lives there. She's still alive.
And uh so I'm just like, okay, do you just
go up and knock on the door. I mean, they're

(33:14):
going to be like get the hell out of here,
you know what I mean? Like there, I just I
don't know whether to try to find somebody that knows
them and try to do the introduction, like what do
you guys think? Has anybody got any ideas for me?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
This is what I think? Yeah, and hear me out, okay, right, okay,
Relic Relic Jedi Shows versus two. All right, man says,
we're your cowboy boots. That's the path I'm going down. Yeah,
we get matching shaps, we go strolling in there on

(33:53):
our lamas, no matching shaps for our wives. Let them
go up and knock.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
On perfect Yeah, Yeah, that would be that's what we
need to do. We've got to send the wires for sure.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Shoot to the matriarch though, Yeah, I don't think that's
gonna work. I just you know, Peach cobbler pie.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, I mean I want it so bad. It's sort
of like, you know, if you send them a letter
and you're like, hey, you know, I got something I
want to talk to about. Let's go meet for coffee,
They're gonna be like, I don't kind of time for
no coffee, you know what I mean? Like, we're busy here,
you know, we're working people and stuff. Now I read
an article where they're like talking about how they sold

(34:35):
oil rights to some of the oil companies. They're drilling
all you know, how it is right, they're drilling on
all the land around here, and they say that we're
making way more with those oil companies than we are
with the cattle.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Sure, but well, yeah, you know it's what we talk about. Right.
If you don't have the permission, how you're going to
get it? It will always be a no if you
don't ask. So, yeah, here's some things I'm kicking around
trying to Their neighbor doesn't look like it's much.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Of an impressive type, you know, land and houses they got.
So if I go up and knock on their door,
more reasonable people get their permission, get to know them
real well, and go hey, do you know your neighbor.
Maybe you can introduce us. You know, if I treat
them really well and really get in with them, then

(35:31):
maybe they would introduce me to their neighbor and say, oh, hey,
you guys own Bob's ranch properties next door. Oh my gosh.
But they may figure that out and go, you sly
coyote right here. You know what we do to coyotes.
We shoot coyotes around here.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, Lorker Troy says, they'll take us out to the railroad.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Train station. We don't want to go to the train station.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yep, we don't. You watched Yellowstone, right? Did you watch?
Have you've been watching nineteen twenty three at all?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I haven't got on that yet. No, we did eighteen
eighty three. We did Yellowstone up until season five, then
we jumped over to eighteen eighty three. Finished that, which
was good.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Wasn't amazing?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, I and I realized I've lost so much. I've
had so much awesomeness leak out of my out of
my face during that that I'm not awesome anymore. I'll
just say that incredible TV show, and we gotta do
twenty three.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Next, Yeah, I'll say is twenty three you see the
induction of the train station. Oh okay, you see the
where it came from. There, you go, that's not too
big of a spoiler, No, no, no, Yeah. So I'm
trying to figure out how to ask permission there, you know,

(36:52):
trying to find somebody in town that knows.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Them right maybe through I think, yeah, getting some of
that knows knows them, and you gotta have a good reputation.
A good word means the most to old timers, old
timer originals. Yeah, agreed, that's it's definitely approach to get

(37:15):
to know people. For sure.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
We just connected with a rancher. Mm hmm. We have
a possible upcoming permission. Actually we have it verbal and
in writing. Oh yeah, yeah, we haven't never been to you.
We're waiting for the weather get consistently better because we're
gonna want to spend some time there. But they're they're ranchers.

(37:44):
They raise cattle and beef.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
And maybe maybe they know them, maybe they know those guys.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
That'd be great great, Yeah yeah, drop drop that owner
of line, say hey, do you know the do you
know Bob Bob Bob Joe Bob Branch. They do cattle
up there, you know them too, You never know, never know.
Word of mouth is a great way to do a
lot of business.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, because they have other property east of them. We're
kind of northeast, they're kind of or southeast and they're
kind of east, you know, So I would I'd be
one the bet they know if they're a big, big
land company that has a lot of cattle, I bet
they know them.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, there's a lot of good suggestions in the in
the chat. Take one of your sons, yep, bring some
old maps and show the research. That's Oh, I think
that's always fantastic. It kind of it kind of brings
a lot of legitimate legitimacy to Astley what we're doing
in terms of listen, we do this research, we locate

(38:46):
these places, we go out there. We can't do it
on your permission because we respect you as landowners. You
our guys are entitled to anything. We'd love to find
something that goes back generations for for this land, for
you and your family. You know, goes a long long way, yep,
And we do plan on that. Plus you're showing the map,
you're showing them exactly where you want to go. We're

(39:07):
not going to be wandering their their land all over
the place. You want to go there, and you want
to go there, You want to go there, and if
we can't find it, we're out of there. You know. Well,
and what we learned, tell them we'll be We'll be
here for a couple of hours.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Just a couple of hours. There's this won't only be
there for a couple of hours, maybe two or three.
You know. Did we say hours? We meant days? So
oh we got that mixed up.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
So you got to use the we'll only be here
half a day. That's what I tell my wife. How
long are you to be going to be going a
half a day? Well, it's technically it's twelve hours, So.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, that's true. Uh. Nick. As a matter of fact,
when I'm looking at the map, there's other properties right
next door that have other home sits on them. But
I was targeting this one because they have multiple multiple multiple. Yeah.
But it's like, hey, you know Bob's landman. Do you
know Jim Himes land manage it next to you? Oh yeah,

(40:02):
guy's name is this. That'd be great if we could
get in with him.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Absolutely, we were.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
We were talking about TV shows.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, we we can talk about some TV we can
talk more about some TV shows. There's been some good
ones lately. Yeah, which which one do you want to
do first?

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oh, let's go. Let's go that one there, all right?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
So, Uh, those that are out there listening right now,
if you guys, we've got we've got twenty two listeners,
let us know in the chat. Have you guys watched
on Netflix American Primeval Intense? And I'm almost done, almost done,
but it is intense.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
We stopped watching it because my wife couldn't continue.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's it's pretty brutal.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
It is too much.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's pretty but I gotta tell you so, I knew
a little bit about it. Uh, Full Metal Digger says,
awesome show. Yeah, I gotta tell you so it is.
I think the correct term would be inspired by factual events,

(41:22):
because I've done a lot of research and I knew
some of it beforehand. It's inspired, but the details, if
you look, if you're watching it as a documentary, it's
not factually accurate. It's inspired by a lot of fact
but it's very dramatized up for TV obviously, very brutal.

(41:47):
And I tell you, man, if this is if that's
really how things were out here in the West during
the you know, eighteen fifties. Dude, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
I never I've never thought of it as that rital.
I know it was crazy. It was brutal, right, rough.
I see it more as being tough and rough, like right,
you know, putting you through the ringer. But yeah, they
really brutalize it. Like what was another show, The Remnant, Yeah, with.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
That was a pretty brutal show. And this this is
probably a little more brutal than that.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
My buddy actually did the all the drone footage for
that movie, is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Oh my gosh, that was an an awesome show. But
what's it about? So, without putting spoilers, yeah, so essentially it.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Is a fixed and I gotta I gotta preface this
whole thing. Being in Colorado for how long have I
been here now, thirty five years? Yeah, they didn't teach
this type of history to us. So back in eighteen
fifty seven, there was actually a war a Mormon, the

(42:58):
Mormon War. This is before the Civil War. This was
a build up to the Civil They sometimes even call
it the pre Civil War because this had to do
with the Mormons that have been kicked out of two states.
They were then granted area out in the West that
hadn't been settled yet, and said, go ahead and go
head out to the Utah Territory and settle out there.
You guys, do what you need to do. And the

(43:21):
show itself was kind of the build up to the
Mormon War. And I had done some research on the
Mormon War, but it starts out with a large massacre
and come to find out that was actually a well
documented massacre that actually occurred that started this whole thing

(43:42):
towards moving towards the Mormon War to where President of
Buchanan sends out troops to the Utah Territory to kind
of a hold of what's going on out in Utah
with the Mormons. So this is kind of the the
massacre and then the build up to the actual conflict.

(44:04):
And it really wasn't a physical conflict conflict with US military,
but it was. I mean, it all takes place from
eighteen fifty seven to eighteen fifty eight out here in
the Utah Territory.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
So if you want to read it too, it's incredible read. Yeah,
learning about that whole thing, because there was it wasn't
a war, but there was a lot of skirmishes, like
the Mormon militia. Man, they they gave us, gave her
the soldiers a lot of grief, man.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah. Yeah, So it's an interest. It's it's a very
u interesting TV show. I think it was it six episodes.
I think it's right on there, four to six episodes.
I can't remember. And uh, you know it kind of again,
like I said, it's inspired by true events. It's very dramatized.
You know, it does have Jim Bridger in it. It

(44:57):
does have bring him young in it, that kind of thing.
So you know, it's factually based in a sense. But
I wouldn't say that it's necessary, like if you're looking
at it to watch that as a documentary, it's not
a documentary. I can attest to that. So but I

(45:17):
used it as really sparking my interest to look further
into exactly what was going on out here. And man,
there's there's actually a lot more out there than I thought.
And I'm amazed at how much I didn't know and
how much they didn't teach us about this conflict in
the United States that nobody knows about. That was from

(45:39):
eighteen fifty seven, eighteen fifty eight. So yeah, pretty cool,
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I knew nothing about it. I mean you and I
had started researching that a while ago.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
We did because we're not we're not where the show
came out far We're not too far from that area,
so you know, it has a little bit of interest.
But yeah, yeah, the Mormons had their own currentsy own
gold currents Jedi, very very very cool pieces. By the way.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, you guys should look up, looked at a look
up a beehive gold, Mormon gold. Pretty cool man, pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Looker Troy said some bars have been found around his area. Wow,
very cool. That is very cool. Yeah, they were trying
to establish their own government, you know, and kind of
secede from the US government and so hope you can.
It was like, uh huh, yeah, isn't it the largest
show of force, yes, military ever put together.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
We Mississippi, West Mississippi and up to that point as well,
I mean up to that point it was in the
United States and then uh well yeah, yeah, up to
that point correct, because that was before the Civil War.
After the Civil War, you know, there was there was
larger ones in in the nation, but not west of
the Mississippi. Right.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
The soldiers basically went there and said, you got a
choice to make ben the knee or dig a grave.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Very cool, Uh, very cool part of history of the
United States that I didn't I didn't know very much of.
I scratched. I knew enough to be to be deadly.
But now since I started watching that, I've been listening
to a lot more podcasts. If you go on YouTube, man,
there's a ton of podcasts about the Mountain Meadows Massacre,

(47:42):
as well as what they call the Mormon War or
the Third Mormon War or the pre Civil War war
if you if you search for any of that kind
of stuff, there are church podcasts. I found a couple
of different channels that are doing incredible oversight or or
you know, talking about the entire all that that era there.

(48:04):
And I'm just amazing how much I didn't know, how
much they don't teach us, how much nobody knows about
this stuff, and it's it's, uh, it's kind of sad,
but very interesting. Sad that we don't know about it,
because I think everybody should know about our history. So yeah,
so prime cool American.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah, watch it, but hold on to your shorts. Yeah,
you know if you like that kind of stuff. Man,
it's it's right up. It'll be right up your alley
for sure.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Dark and brutal.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, and that I mean, you know, it kind of
is the eighteen eighty three kind of idea, you know,
settling out from the west, and how how brutal and
open and and just you know, the battles and and
uh man, it's it's a lot of interesting stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah. Well, let's shift gears. Now, let's go from dark
and brutal to something a little less. It's dark and brutal.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, I want to ask real quick, Lork or Troy,
what area are you in? He said that some gold
bars have been found, and I'm just interested in that.
So yeah, where we're going to next?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Uh well, it was a little brutal because I didn't
find it. But and you thought it was over when
the Forest Fan treasure was found, right, it's not in
twenty twenty, so that that treasure hunts over and I
thought it was done talking about it. I'd done some
videos about Forests Fan. But it's back. It's back to Netflix.

(49:36):
What they have a really cool documentary three three serie
documentary called Golden Greed The Hunt for Fends Treasure. It's
a documentary, three three episode documentary, and it is done
pretty well.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I thought it was done very well. Yeah. Absolutely, And
again if you guys have watched that tell us in
the chat, if you guys have seen that as well. Yeah,
and I think detect us decent. Hashtag cameo that is
that appropriate for uh for this? Why why would he
be saying that I don't know, I don't know, yes,

(50:14):
you do. Don't be a dog. Come on.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Well yeah, So back back in twenty twenty, when the
forest Fan treasure chess was found, I was paying. I
was a searcher. I was a searcher of that treasure.
I'd put boots on the ground, I had multiple saws.
Never found it, of course, but I was really into it.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
And well, never found it as far as we've been told.
We've been told somebody found it. But you say that
you didn't find it.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I didn't find it, wasn't.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Me, okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
And uh yeah, So I used to watch these uh
these forums, and forest Fan himself used to post on
these forums. And I get this alert on my phone
that said horse Fen just said that the treasure has
been found on this forums, and since you used to
always post on that, I immediately went over to the

(51:07):
forums and saw sure enough it was him saying the
hunt is over. The chest has been found. So I
looked at my wife, we were getting ready to go
to sleep, and I said, I've got to go live
right now on my YouTube channel because this is going
to be huge. And it just hit. So I was like,
I gotta do this now. So I went on my
YouTube channel, I did a live stream and I just

(51:29):
started to live stream when I just went the unfindable
has been found, and I just started my whole live
streaming like that. So so since that live stream, god,
I've gotten all kinds of like attention to that, right.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Though.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
That's my very first Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
That's the first one that's in the hotel room, didn't
you guys? Is that when you were out searching for it?

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah? Yeah. So one of my first boots on the
ground trip was to Wyoming and the thing was that
time is that I had figured out the riddle. I'd
figured out the solve. And for those of you aren't familiar,
Forrest Fenn wrote a poem. It had nine clues in it.
If you deciphered the nine clues, it would take you
right to the treasure Chess. And I had figured it out.

(52:19):
I told my wife, I showed my step son, and
they were so convinced they said we have to go.
So we blew off Easter Sunday with all of our
family to go to Wyoming to find this treasure Chess.
And if you go back and look at that was
it seven years ago. If you go back and look
at that video it's real early on my channel, it

(52:42):
gives you my entire solve of why, you know, what
the riddles were, where it was at, where I thought
it was at, and why I thought it was there.
And we went way out there was like eight hour
less way out there in the car looking for it. Yeah,
my stepsone doesn't look I use that thrilled right now.
But he was really into it, man, he was really

(53:03):
into it. So yeah, so I was really into it.
I was really into it. And so when it was found,
I went live on this on this live stream, and
after that I started getting attention for things. Right, who
was a local radio show host that it would been found.
They were watching this live stream of mind him and

(53:25):
his son and you know, and they just they started
like inviting me on the show and all this talk
show and then one day I get contacted by the
Today Show and the Today Show says, hey, we saw
your live stream. Would you mind if we use a
clip from it? And I'm like, yeah, as long as

(53:46):
you give me credit and for like that, right, Yeah,
it wouldn't be bad to have my YouTube channel's name
out there on the Today Show. So they did. They
use the clip. They didn't really promote my show very much,
but it was kind of down somewhere where no one
could see it. But yeah, So when they did this
new Netflix documentary, they they actually took that clip of

(54:08):
the Today Show clip and they used it in the documentary.
In the Netflix it's right in the beginning of episode three,
So if you guys want to go over there and
look for that, that's my point zero zero zero three seconds.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Of fit was It was not that short.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
It was pretty sure right exactly, because it's right in
third episodes when they start getting to that it had
been found so they started. But if you were a
searcher for that that the documentary's done really well. It
hits on all the cylinders. If you didn't know anything
about the Forest Fan treasure go check it out Netflix,

(54:47):
Gold and Greed. They kind of follow three different searchers.
They find, they find, uh, they get. They focused on
this group of three that were kind of like kind
of had some crazy ideas about it. Showed how obsessed
people can get about it. They had this guy that
was very scientific about it and used facial recognition software to.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
See it.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Was crazy and it put him almost right on top
of the treasure chest. And then the middle one was
this lady Cynthia, and she was like, you know, she
was the constant for years, you know, eight years she
was looking for it and became real good friends with Forrests.
And so they kind of go over there all the
crazies that like broke into his house and were threatening
him and his family. Like, they go over the entire

(55:34):
thing and the five people that died looking for it
and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Netflix.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah, Gold and Greed on Netflix. But cool show, cool show.
And during the show, what you find out is that
one of the main people they showed in the beginning
was this guy that got all scientific on it. And
later so what they did with the treasure after they
found it, they auctioned it all off so you could

(56:02):
actually buy a piece of the treasure. It's all gone now,
but they matter of fact, a guy here in Denver
bought one very recognizable piece and a gold coin. But
this one breastplate, gold breastplate about that big he bought.
And he's still trying to get together with me so
I can film it and get together and talk about
the hunt, and maybe now we need to go do that.

(56:24):
But Justin Posey is one of the main guys that
they that they focused on. He's the one that made
the facial recognition software and he did that, and he
was searching New Mexico and he did that because he
wanted to see force inflection and any kind of fear
nervous facial tics that he had when they would name

(56:45):
different places. And he noticed with his software that every
time they mentioned the word Yosemite, these ticks and these
clues would spark and do all this stuff with his
facial recognition software. So he changed his search location smite
and that's basically where it was found. So Yellowstone, Yellowstone,
Sorry what I said, I always say, you say I'm

(57:06):
from Yellowstone. So they're focusing on him throughout the series.
You know, he's kind of standing there and it's got
this backdrop to him. And right at the end of
the show, well he said it at the beginning to it.
Right at the end of the show, what does he say, Tony.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
He says, I've put clues through my interviews here, I've
had clues going on because now he's doing his own,
his own treasure hunt.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
They go clues clues for what and he goes, well,
I'm doing a treasure hunt and some of the clues
are in my backdrop here.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
In the backdrop in the background during the interview. Three
episodes on Netflix and oh my gosh. Yeah, and Justin
actually did a podcast with uh what was what was
the name of colors Oars? Yeah, with k pro and
colors Are He was on there Monday night, I think, yeah,

(58:07):
Monday or Tuesday and uh uh yeah, so he was.
He was telling us a little bit about it. So
he's written a book called Beyond what is it called
Beyond the Right, and he's got a website now and
all of his stuff is here's the actual poem.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
He did it as an homage to forest because he
was a longtime searcher of forests. And he's got a
few pieces of forest treasure in there, including one of
the most recognizable pieces, the dragon bracelet, and a bunch
of other nuggets and coins and everything. He didn't say
how much it was worth, but even a meteorite, a

(58:49):
rare meteorite is in there that he had in there,
and all kinds of stuff. So yeah, he wrote a
book of memoirs. In the book, he's got this this poem.
But the poem is right here on his website. He
he said, if you solve this. He's also on like X.
You can go find him on X and he posts

(59:10):
on there a lot. He appears on podcasts wink wink,
hopefully nudge nudge, you're gonna have him on here. What
the podcast he was on Monday, Man, he released way
too much information.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
He gave a lot of information up it. I couldn't
believe it.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
So if you're into treasure hunts, and you know, here
we go again, right website Treasure dot Quest, www dot
Treasure dot Quest. Yep, that's where you go to kind
of get involved in his treasure hunt. And he said,
you know, there's hints in the in the Netflix series,

(59:50):
there's hints in his grace in his book of memoirs.
There's hints that tied to his poem and tied to
the clues that are in the Netflix series. Tony and
I have already seen some things that are glaring. We
don't know what they mean yet, but we can see
things that look like their clues. We just don't know yet.
They're absolutely clues, but we just don't know what they

(01:00:12):
mean yet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
So fl Thunder, I think the eight screens behind them
each show a different location if you look at them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
They do. Yeah, they do, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I think so too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
No, I was listening to uh That that podcast, and
he had said that he had intentionally done his interview
in this way. Netflix didn't know about it, the producers
didn't know about it. But he also didn't know how
many of these clues we're gonna make it into the
to the actual documentary, because he didn't have any control

(01:00:50):
over that at all. So he said that a very
good number of good, high quality clues went into the
actual documentary. Some hit the cutting room flo or, as
he said, but I mean for you to kind of
pull the wool over the eyes of Netflix and do
something underneath their nose.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah, they didn't. They had not a clue, but they
didn't know it. And then and after the fact when
they did the editing, now they got to put a
big disclaim, right, says no one at Netflix knows anything
about this hunt, you know what I mean, there's nothing
about Posey's plan or anything about this doesn't know what
the clues are, so don't be calling us man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, it was pretty cool, pretty cool. You got to
go watch, definitely go watch gold Golden Greed. And it
really it's not just about it is about the treasure,
but it's also a lot about families. It's a lot
about the search, right, It's the journey. You know, would
be incredible to find the Forest Fund treasure where through

(01:01:53):
you know, millions of dollars and then notoriety and all
these different things of you being able to you know,
how many people were searching forward and you were able
to solve it. But it also has a lot to
do with the journey where you start, where you end,
and what's all in between there even if you didn't
find the treasure, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah, the design from Forrest Fund was to get people
out from their house and get him out in the outdoors.
You know, he gave all kinds of warnings. So a
lot of people died and a lot of people got hurt,
a lot of people had to be rescued, even though
he warned everyone, I hit it when I was eighty
years old, right anywhere an eighty year old wouldn't go.
You know, some people that were repelling down cliffs or

(01:02:36):
getting in like the Rio Grand fast moving water and
everything like that. Eight year old man's not going to
do that. So Justin gave some hints. You go look
up cal Laisar, cal lasers and kal lazars. You can
just spell it cal lasers and you'll see the livestream
they had with him. Yeah, I said, he released a

(01:02:56):
lost's and he also said he he's trying to make
it as fair as he could.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
One thing that Forrest did was he would do different interviews,
and you'd have to go and watch all these different
interviews to see if he was giving up information, giving
clues giving him saying no, yes, you know the different questions.
What Justin's doing is, he said, once I'm done here
the questions and answers that I've given, I'm going to
update my website with the information that I've given. So, yeah,

(01:03:22):
to make it fair, for everybody to give a fair
chance to everybody that you don't have to track down
eighty different different podcasts or interviews that he's done, try
to pick up pieces. He's actually going to be putting
it up on his website.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Yeah, I don't think it'll take as long to find
this one as it I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
But that guy is he's smart as a whip. So
it's don't think it's easy. No, I don't think it's
going to be easy at all. For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Here here's how smart this guy is. So he's a
searcher of Forest Fenn's treasure. Forest Fan's treasure was in
a bronze chest. That's what it was buried in. In
bronze chest. So this guy brilliantly teaches his dog how
to sniff out bronze. Bronze, ye, bronze, train him and

(01:04:09):
train him, and train him and train him so that
he would alert on bronze.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Right, so he's close enough to the area, you know,
you solve it and you're in the right area, you
let the dog go and do the dog thing, and
the dog's trained to smell and find bronze, and he
still didn't find it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
No, in Yellowstone. You weren't able allowed to bring your
dog out, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
That was one of the things he had said, was
because he pretty much thought it was in Yellowstone and
he was like, I can't can't bring my dog now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah. Ah, So there's already kinds of all kinds of
guessing going on, all kinds of people are searching for this.
I know, we got Cindy in our club who's like, well,
we'll probably be the one that finds that. She's just
like super sleuth. I've already been all over it. You know,
Tony's been all over it. We're already chatting about it.
So it's fun, man, we just have fun with it. Yeah.

(01:05:05):
Forrest's uh the forest fan treasure, uh what? It took
over many people. So there were so many lawsuits, and yeah,
there was one in particular I was very attached to.
I used to read all the court transcripts because it
just was. It was as entertaining as any TV show.
I would get these court transcripts. It just was out there, man,

(01:05:29):
it was just out there. This lady was an attorney.
She sued the estate after it was the found and
here's the gist of her lawsuit. Her saw was in
New Mexico. She had it solved. She sent Forrest Fenn
her solve, and the next interview he did, he signaled

(01:05:50):
her that she was correct by naming her cat's name
in the interview, which I think was Sunshine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
But before she could then go reach trieve the treasure jest,
somebody broke into her computer and stole her solve and
went out and got it, and so she Susan wants
the treasure jest. Now, she just didn't do one court
appearance and it was over. She did for months and
months and month as soon as many people as she could.

(01:06:18):
And Tony, somehow you got involved in that court case.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Yeah, let's let's not discuss that. Yeah, Tony was involved
with that court case. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
I had done a couple of videos. I was just
trying to be kind of the you know, uh, you know,
breaking news, the news, the news of this the hot
topic and blah blah blah, and I mean it's public
information that she's making these this this litigation against Forest
Fen and the treasure and all these different things. And
all I was relaying was here's the court filing. You

(01:06:51):
can link to it. Here, you can see it here.
This is what she's alleging, and she didn't like that
very much. So she did it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
She did it, and she showed all these examples of
how they were disparaging her in the media. And somebody
made the list. Somebody made the screenshop I made the list.
O bad boys, Bad Boys, What You're gonna do? Couldn't
believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Hey, dog Tag Doug, thanks for coming on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
What dog tag Doug? How are you man? Good to
see you on here. I don't know if I've seen
you on here. Welcome buddy. Oh yeah, so yeah, that's fun, man.
You go watch that series and then get the get
the book and there's like a hardcover book you can buy,
there's an electronic version you can download, and uh, you know,
the poem's right there on his site and read through

(01:07:43):
a site and he's, like you say, he's putting out
clues on a site. We're trying to get him on here,
but he's having so much trouble keeping up with the
book publication and working with his publisher that he's got
to focus on that right now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Yeah, it says temporarily out of stock over here on
Amazon right now, so but.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
It's available working on it's available for.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Us the website that you can see.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
He says he hates it that Amazon is saying that
because he says publishers are public seeming like crazy. So
he's trying to get Amazon to reverse that. But I
guess that's like pulling dog hair getting bad.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yeah, so let's be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
And it feels like it's out out our direction.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, let's let's hope hope it's not in Alaska. Who
knows it might be in Alaska.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I know there was some talk in the chat about Alaska.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Yep, there was. It's fun to try to figure that
stuff out for sure. But you know, like the forest
En Treasure was, people can get in their head that
they're solved it and they can fixate on it. You know,
they show they show a family that fixated on a

(01:08:54):
one of their solutions so much so that they spent
two hours to toe trying to remove this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Boulder, digging underneath it, blowing it up, moving it, like yeah,
two years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
They were fixated on it. They just knew and when
that didn't work out, the very next solve, they knew
it was the salt. They just knew it you know,
and uh, it just gets that way. You know. I
never was that fixated on it. I always knew that
myself could be wrong. But it was fun to go
put boots on the ground and try to speculate where

(01:09:33):
it was at. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
You know what, though, you got to spend time with
your family. You actually got a pretty cool story of
you guys out there searching. But that's what Forrest wanted, right,
So it's exactly what it was successful and you have
you have life experience now. My wife will never forget
that messed up someone never forget it because we went

(01:09:55):
there on Easter Sunday and so on Easter there was
nothing open on East except for a Japanese steakhouse. So
on on Easter Sunday, we were there having like hibachi
you know, uh kitchen dinner, haibachi grill dinner. It reminded
me of.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Christmas story. No, what was the Christmas story?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Christmas story at the Chinese restaurant with the duck.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
So we have all the right We got scared like
that we were in grizzly country because we were deep
and wyoming way up north and we were in grizzly
country and so we had a big furry brown animal
jump out at us. It was mama moose who was
laying down and she jumped out and disturbed the brush,

(01:10:44):
came towards us and then high tailed it out of there.
But all I saw was that fur and the massiveness
of it, and it it. It made me get more
gray hair than I already had. My stepson was just
like terrified.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
What's up with us? In moose? I don't know, man,
you'd think it would be elk or deer or pronghorn
or coyotes or but moose.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
I don't know, man. We've had Yeah, yeah, I've had
an experience. You've had an experience. We both had an
experience together. Yeah, good think it was a bull moose right,
It was pretty passive. But yeah, I don't know what
it is about moose man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, you want to go here or here?
Let's go top one First. Antony and I share at
Google docs pace and we put down ideas and stuff
we want to talk about. So go ahead, I'll let
you take this one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
We've had on Garrett Seusser, our buddies, Zach Metzger and
Garrett Suser our Buddy's over in Kansas. We've had we've
had them on a couple of times. We've done uh,
They've been on are you Are you Smarter than a
Rella Hunter? We talked to them quite a bit during
the chat sometimes and there are a lot on you know,
social media and things like that. Anyways, Garrett got invited
to actually speak next week next Saturday over at in Lineman,

(01:12:11):
over at the Heritage Society in Lineman, and he's talking
about the Smokey Hill Trail. So U I just want
to give a shout out to Garrett if he's listening
or watching this on the on the replay. But he's
gonna do giving a great presentation over on the Smokyhill Trail.
I'm going to be going to it for sure, sitting
taking notes and going to record it. I'm going to
analyze his facial tics and telling me where all the

(01:12:34):
good sites are on the Smokey Hill Trail.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Hey, stop right there. I am not a clue in
the Netflix series. I'm just telling you right now, so
you don't start bugging me me a facial expression. I
am not a clue. Okay, people are already talking here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
They need they need your autograph. I mean, this is
a big deal, man, this is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
I didn't mean to hijacked out again because it is
a good deal with Garrett. Garrett doing this preason smoke trail. Yeah,
mister teacher and Teacher of the Year with the California
Oregon Trails Association last year. Yeah, he's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
We were able to to go and support him over
there up in Wyoming for that, and you know this year,
he's going to be out next week over in Lineman
and we're gonna I'm going to go out and visit
with him. Are you going to make it I don't
want to try to make it okay, try to make
it so yeah, just I mean supporting the community. He's
given a great presentation, you know. And this is the

(01:13:32):
kind of things that we get a lot of a
lot of interest, a lot of messages of how do
you guys get on sites? What are you researching, where
are you going, and what are you concentrating on? To
be honest, this is the stuff. I mean, there's not
a lot of history out here in Colorado per se.
There is history, but it's just not as prevalent because
of when we were establishing stuff. But things that if

(01:13:54):
you look at the history of the United States traveling east, right,
where do they go? You want to be where people were,
you know, in the eighteen forties, eighteen fifties. I mean,
you know, you can go back to eighteen thirties here
a little bit, there were some forts out here. But
eighteen fifties, eighteen sixties, you know, they start moving all
to the west here, and where are they going to
be at They're going to be on trails. So you've

(01:14:16):
got to do the research on the trails. You're going
to find the stage code sites. Who was talking about
it I forgot the name earlier talking about being on
Strasbourg with the Stagecoade stop or Pony Express stop, like
those kind of different things. Where were people when they
were traveling? You know, So do the research on the
Smoky Hill Trail, you know, locate the different stops, people

(01:14:36):
stops right, lots of interaction getting up and down, wagons,
dropping stuff, you know. I mean, that's we have been
on some really good stagecoach stops. But that's the kind
of history that we have out here in Colorado. And
Garrett's going to be out there talking about it. Some
really psyched to not only get to see my buddy
or you know, our buddy from Kansas, but also maybe

(01:14:59):
make some more or contacts out to the east of
us who have the same interest in the Smokey Hill
Trail and Lineman Historical Society. Like a lot of stuff
came through Lineman. A lot of stuff came through Lineman
up through Strasbourg.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yeah, that's the kind of stuff that that you have
to look at, at least for us out here, you know,
where stuff isn't exactly as documented as it would be,
you know per se, like back back east with different
battles and wars and independence and all that kind of stuff.
So yeah, that's coming up next week. I'm really excited

(01:15:35):
to get to do that. I'm probably going to try
to record it if I can put it up on
the channel so people that do support us in the
Colorado area will have some information about the Smokeyil Trail
and hopefully that sparks some more interest for people to
do more research. But if you are doing research on
the smokyol trace, stay off of it. We're gonna hunt
it all. There's nothing left to be find on it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
So yeah, no, it's pretty much hunted out. That in
that in Ohio. Pretty much it's done.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Those two yep, yep, yeap, oh y yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
We talk about like how do we get permissions and
that word of mouth and and like we we talked
about earlier, like going and meeting some local farmers that
might know the farmer I'm trying to get in with,
you know what I mean, working that networking, going down
a local coffee shop where all the old farmers hang
out at and getting to know some of them and
just networking. It's all networking, you know. And uh, but

(01:16:29):
there's another there's another technique that I've used over the
years to some to some success, I will say, to
some success, there's nothing better than getting out and going
face to face and meeting. Yeah, there's just nothing nothing
better than that. But there's other things you can do.

(01:16:50):
We talked about it before. I call it Facebook fishing. Okay.
Most towns have some kind of Facebook group. If you're
not familiar with Facebook, go ahead, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
I was just gonna say, like a community page, community page,
you know, of this of the town that they live,
and it's it's stuff that's going on in their communities.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
You know, hey, there's a I saw cow over here
at County Road such and such. You know whose dog
is this? You know, right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
And then sometimes they have like sale page where if
you're going to sell something, you only put stuff you're
gonna sell on this one page whatever. But most most
towns have a group, and if you become a member
of that group, you could either reach out to the
admin to see if it'll be okay, or you could
just go for it and post something. People seem really

(01:17:43):
interested in it. So a lot of people have liked
my posts. I went ahead and post it to like
three different groups. You know, one I had like fifty
eight thousand members, the other one had thirty eight thousand members.
So you know, you're getting some eyes on it and stuff.
You're you're able to canvas a large area. So I thought,
I thought, what I do is read you my posts.

(01:18:05):
Any for those listening on the replay, you can listen
back to this and it's quite long actually, so I'll
just tell you what I put. I put a picture
of a metal detectors and then I wrote the following, Okay,
hello neighbors. My name is Ken and I'm a twenty
five year resident of Northern Colorado currently residing in blah

(01:18:27):
blah Blah town. I'm really into history and love of
the story of our town and the surrounding areas. One
of my hobbies is finding old relics of our past
using a metal detector. You'd be surprised at some of
the things I find, and those tied to our personal
history are my favorite. I'm looking for some permissions to
come metal detect on your property. I'm looking for properties

(01:18:48):
built from nineteen ten in earlier or fields land that
have had home sites or activities since the early days.
If you have such a property or know someone that does,
and what could that are letting me come detect, leave
me a comment below or email me privately at blah
blah blah dot com and I will get back to
you to introduce myself. Further, All items found from your

(01:19:11):
property will be shown to you, and if you see
anything you would like to keep, you're welcome to have it.
Respecting care of your property is of utmost importance to me,
and I utilize no leave, no trace techniques. I could
even bring an extra detector if you would like to
detect with me on your property. It's fun and exciting
and you never know what you might find. I also

(01:19:32):
offer my services if you have lost a ring, jewelry,
or any other type of metallic item and will like
help trying to recover it. Thank you all for reading
Ken and I post this and what happened recently, Like
we got.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
It started and then it started.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Yeah, so a lot of stuff. We got quite a
few hits, I'll call it hits, and people really responded favorably.
And yeah, I think right now we're going to probably
pull five or six permissions new permissions off of that.
So you know, it can't hurt. You're basically being polite

(01:20:15):
and putting it out there and fishing and if somebody
knows that, or a neighbor or something like that. Uh,
Like one of the one of the reports, one of
the responses was, hey, uh yeah, my mom has this house.
You're welcome to come. It is built in this day
blah blah blah. And our next door neighbor has the
original schoolhouse and I'm sure she would be able to

(01:20:36):
let you come too. She's really cool, really nice. Yeah,
So now you know, that's two permissions we got, including
an old schoolhouse. So we've got permissions from a railroad station.
We got permissions from a huge piece of land that
had a trail running through it, and it's just it's great.

(01:20:57):
And so what you can do with that is, let's
say you have a tow that you want to target.
You know, an old town that has nothing but old
houses that you know would be great and have stuff in.
See if they have a Facebook group, Go in, Go
in respectfully, go in, Hey, I'm your neighbor, just in
the town next to you. Blah blah blah. Here's what

(01:21:17):
I do, here's what I'm looking for. People love the
idea of it being exciting. Of like two or three
of them were like, I'd love to come with you.
I got this old detective that my grandfather gave me
a do it looks like a piece of crab and
I don't know how it works, but I'm sure you
could show me. And I'd been like yeah, I responding
to him, Yeah, And if it doesn't, I've got plenty
I can bring and show you and show you what's up.

(01:21:39):
You know, So yeah, I want.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
I wanted to say dog tag. Doug says, face to
face is the only way, in my opinion, and I
agree with that. You know, there's nothing better than going
face to face. But I think with this one, it's
more of a shotgun approach and work smarter, not harder,
use some social media to our advantage, and the worst
thing that can happen is you don't get any hits
on it, right, you know, I'm sure you have this

(01:22:05):
saved done as a word dock somewhere where you can
cut and paste it into multiple you know, town sites
on Facebook. And what's it going to honestly hurt? It
kind of gets your name out there. You're showing very
you know, much professionalism and even if you get one, hey,
one can turn into two, can turn into four, can
turn into eight. So I think I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
You know, we have our own places that we're targeting,
and we're going up knocking on doors, and we're the
places we know about that we're focusing in on. What
this does is it may introduce to some other stuff
that maybe you just weren't ready to concentrate on or whatever.
Like one of the properties that responded to us like
I'm going to forsake something else that I had already

(01:22:47):
been focusing on going and getting because it's such a
good property, you know, and had I not done this
I wouldn't have never probably known about it because it's
in a town that I haven't targeted yet, even a
town actually that I hadn't heard of because the town's
no longer there. But yeah, so it can't it can't hurt,
but it does not replace knocking on doors and getting

(01:23:09):
in front right at all, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yep. Doug also says it doesn't hurt to join a
local historical society and advertise yourself as such when speaking
to your perspective property owners. Again, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
That, Yep. I definitely dropped that. I'm tied in with
the City History Museum here in the State History Museum,
and also the Colorado Archaeological Society and the leader of
the HEART Team. We've talked about the Heart Team here
Stoptical Artifact Recovery Team. I will drop that whenever I can.
You're right, it just gives you some legitimacy. It's not

(01:23:46):
like I'm just this dirty money What does Tim say?
Dirty money?

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Dirty money lovers, dirty money lovers. I don't know what
you say.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Yeah, absolutely, I think it's fantast I'm getting I'm getting
involved more with some historical societies down here. So branch out,
you know, talk to the people that have the same
interest ish in the same area there, and man, it
can really open up a lot, it really can. In fact,
I'm I'm going over to a speaker, another speaker. I

(01:24:21):
think next Thursday. It's gonna be a busy week next week,
and uh or is it tomorrow? Is it tomorrow? I
don't know what the heck it is. Maybe it's next week.
I had to check the calendar. But anyways, same idea.
This guy actually found who's done some things in the
areas that I'm trying to target and search, and I
all of a sudden found that he's doing a presentation

(01:24:43):
way up north, actually near you, And I'm like, I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go bend this guy's ear. I've
got his book. I'm going to talk to him about
his book and see, you know, networking, what can I do.
I think he's kind of graduated up to an age
where he's maybe not going out in the field as much.
He's more of the historical written documentation side of things. Well, hey,

(01:25:06):
I'm no spring chicken, but I can at least still
get out of the field. So hook me up with
some people that, you know, and all that kind of stuff.
It's about networking, it is, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Doug was talking about dog tag. Doug was talking about, yeah,
you know, knocking on doors getting permission. I don't know
how him and his whole group does it. Corner Order
and that whole group, like, Hi, can we bring ten
people on your property to dig? You know? Hi? Can
I get permission for me and ten of my people
to come out and film and dig and all that stuff?

(01:25:36):
You know, I think they're getting so popular now that
a lot of people probably in the area know of them,
and so it's sort of like an honor to get
those people out there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
But Tom Asham does the same thing. You know, you
have a resume that you can share when you go up.
You know, Hey, can I dig a big, huge hole
in your yard? I'm looking for bottles and privies, you know,
from one hundred and fifty years ago. Oh, by the way,
I've dug sixteen hundred of them. Oh geez, kind of
know what you're doing. Sure, go ahead, same idea.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
You know, that's the first time I've heard that one
five mile Did you knock on the did that happen?

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Were you out of paper? And I mean, how did
the conversation start on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
His number on a sleeve and pushing under the thing.
I don't know, man, that's funny. We should have a
show about that one time. Funniest way you've ever gotten ye,
craziest way you've ever gotten a permission?

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Yeah, man, once say hi to Robert Thompson over Nebraska.
He's going thanks for coming on, go back and listen
to uh the show, Robert. We've had a good time
tonight with a bunch of different topics. So there's been
some good comments of going back and reading. Yeah there
is I'm looking through him here. This is a good one. Here. Etector,

(01:26:55):
when you get a permission and you were also searching,
or you were also teaching the land on or how
to detect, how do you keep focused to do a
thorough job of the search area?

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
You give them a bad detector? Yeah, go over there
and just we did that, what don't we last time
we did that? We uh yeah, it's tough, right because
every beep they're like, oh, you know right, like the
last show we did. We were talking about our TV
show we did with Melby and the group from the UK,
and it was the same thing like Tony and I

(01:27:27):
wanted to go detect and it's like every little beep
like ah, you know, and I'm like, oh my god,
we're gonna sit here with them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Well that was in the show She's going over and
it's like forty six, ninety three, twenty seventy seventy one,
twenty one. What do you think? I'm like, I think
it's iron I think we should go on to the
next one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Yeah, I think we should make that one. Yeah. It's tough.
It's tough, and they you know, if you're just teaching
them how to do it, but sometimes you got to
do that, you know what I mean, be like, oh yeah,
let me come back and then we'll hit it hard.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Sorry you didn't Sorry you didn't find anything today. But
if we come back with it again, because usually what
happens is once they put in all that effort, they
don't find anything that they're pretty much done with detecting it, right.
You know a lot of times they're just like, oh man,
yeah I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Why don't you have at it? You really know what
you're looking for. So yeah, but they got out and
did it. I think it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Yeah, they got that excitement and who knows. Maybe you know,
they're like, oh, I got to do this more so
I know what I'm doing, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Yeah, yeah, hey, uh there's one comment that we've got here.
Do you want to talk about that? And we'll get
kind of closing and closing things out. We want to.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
I want to just say this was, you know, probab
about forty five minutes ago, five mither five mile rollic
hunter find guys an awesome find at the show me
Hunt Bullseye Canteen. I watched it and it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
So I just wanted to make sure we start that, yeah,
to make sure that we acknowledged that that was an
incredible find and huge congrats to you. That's a fantastic relic.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Yeah. Absolutely, it's cool and you find really cool relics
like that, you know, that are so unique and not
everyone finds them all the time. Right. I was trying
to pull up a picture of it. Yeah, just old man,
very cool. Where was he at to show me to

(01:29:28):
show me?

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Like were they blown away? I bet they were. I
bet they were like, oh my god, you know what
I mean, something like that to be found in their
hunt so you're not going to find that at Rush
to the Rockies. I'll tell you that right now. But
Rush to the Rockies at May thirtieth through June first
here in Colorado. You got to come out and see
us at our national Open hunt. What you're gonna find.

(01:29:52):
You're gonna find a lot of silver, You're gonna find tokens,
You're gonna find a lot of other relics from Native
American to all kinds of different things you can take home.
It's gonna be a great time, a lot of good
camaraderie going on here. We've got practice fields, We've got
all kinds of stuff, great sponsorship, knocked this stepped up.
We've got Garrett in the mix. We're gonna have mind

(01:30:13):
Lab in the mix. You know they all support these hunts.
So make sure you come on out. Tony. Post the
link in the chat. We'll talk about it more on
our next Relics Radio. We've got some good guests coming
up and tell you, but we have we have a
lady it's gonna blow you away coming up pretty soon.

(01:30:34):
She's gonna talk all about grading coins. Yes, and you're
just gonna have to sit down, buck Lynn, because she
is an energetic speaker and a lot of energy, a
lot of information to share.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Well, just just the passion, the passion for that. Like
we've got passion for certain things in life, and you know,
you get along with people that have that same passion.
Her passion is so incredible. Uh not, I wouldn't say overwhelming.
She she's incredible and I can't wait to have her on.
We're gonna we're gonna do some some fun stuff with that,

(01:31:09):
uh to maybe get people to send us some examples
of coins that they have so that we can show
her and kind of do an on the spot. Hey,
what ish would you grade this at? So I think
it's gonna be a great time. We had her out
at our Eureka Treasure Running Club meeting and I think
everybody's blown away. And we jumped up after she was
done and pulled her aside and said you're coming on

(01:31:32):
the podcast. So because we just were like, this is awesome,
absolutely awesome. The information that she can pass on was invaluable.
So we were like, we need to pass this on
to our bunch of supporters here and and and spread that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
For sure, we need to plan it because the problem
with her is that we won't make it in an
hour and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
We just whoa keep her on.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
I mean, you know, you know there's there's she's gonna
show you how to kind of photo grade that you
can do on the website and stuff you can do
some of that. I know a lot of you probably
know about that already, but some of you might not.
And she'll do some of that. I'll see if you
send us example, she does a really good job.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
She said.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Who we got coming up next week? We got Casey
with EXCaliber shovels coming on next week, next Wednesday night,
So make sure you tune into that. He's always a
good guest, got some great shovels, big supporter of Rush
to the Rockies, so we definitely want to have him
on and do a good show for you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Next Week's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Yeah, yeah, yep, Hey, let's get out of here. Man,
it's late Wednesday night. Yeah. Thanks everyone for joining us.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Appreciate all the support here. If you guys are interested
in seeing what I'm doing, check out fifty two eighty
adventures on all of your social media. There was a
question earlier, I think from ill Digger was bringing up
some of the shorts that I put out and guys
check in on those. They're pretty fun. They're pretty funny,
kind of keep some humor in the community and kind

(01:32:58):
of people enjoy it. So YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Uh all over,
So fifty two eight adventures check me out. Yeah cool man.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
If you want to know anything about me, just watch Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Wait a minute, wait, I ducked out and it came
up all big. It was just you. I'm gonna I'm
gonna clip that right there. I'm gonna clip that right there.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
I just want Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Man, I'm on Netflix. Just put in DK in Netflix and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
You'll find me. Yep, I'm the star. I'm the star
of the Showeez. Everyone, have yourself a great weekend. Find
me at Adventures in Dirt anywhere on social media. Have
yourself a great weekend. If you go find some great stuff,
tell me about it. We love seeing it, we love
showing it, we love hearing about it. Good luck to everyone,
Stay safe. We'll see you next Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Thank you so much for listening to Relix Radio. We
will see you back here next week for another exciting guest.
Until then, get out and dig it all

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