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April 14, 2025 102 mins
Casey with Excalibur Shovels and Debbie from Minelab visit with Ken and Tony. They giveaway some great items and Masters of Metal competition is coming to Colorado at Rush to the Rockies

That time when Ken and Tony were on a BBC tv show and hung out with Mel B, Emily Atack and Ruby Wax!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Radio Wednesday Night here on Relics Radio. Welcome everybody. Uh yeah,
I'm glad to see everyone tune it out tonight. It's
gonna be a great show. Let me bring in my
co host. You guys know the man. It's my buddy
Tony from fifty to eighty Adventures. Good Morning, Wednesday Night.

(00:21):
Gonna be a good show tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is gonna be awesome show. There's there's gonna be
some some uh some, I'm losing my mind. I'm thinking
about today. There's gonna be some surprises. There's gonna be
some direction, misdirection, there's gonna be This is gonna be
an awesome, awesome show. If you guys are joining us
right now, we've got a whole bunch of Holy cow,
we got the live chats just cruising tonight. If you

(00:45):
guys are with us early man, stay with us. We're
gonna do uh we're gonna meet some cool people. We're
gonna do some giveaways, and you guys gotta be in
the live chat to be eligible to win some giveaways.
So stick with us. Blow up the blow up that chat.
You guys have conversations and all that stuff, and uh yeah,
it's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
How are you doing? Yeah, you know, I'm busy, still doing,
still busy. Yeah. We might even give away some clues
to a treasure hunt tonight. Yeah, we got so much stuff.
Talk about the communities banging right. We weather's changing like
it's time to get out. Time to put the research
away and go hit all the places. Man, You and
I have got a lot of places to go. But

(01:25):
I'm getting excited. Man, it's that time of the year.
I wanted to mention real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I know we're going to get to the people in chat,
but uh Ill Diggers said, is this is this ken Flix?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
We need to start changing that to uh yeah, ken
flix or something for sure. That's hilarious, that's funny. Yeah,
they gonna start changing that. I think they need to
change their name.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
They do they, I mean, if they want to make
a profit, they obviously needed to change it.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So and everyone that didn't tune the last week has
no idea what we're talking about. Yeah, what are you
talking about? Ken Flecks? That's it all right, let's get
over to the chat real quick. Old loan that hey,
old plan came.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
In at eleven five Mountain Standard time this morning. To say, ready,
we are ready.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's right, that is really ready. I know that was
that was way ready.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Hey, how about Scott mclroy, McClory, Ory mclory, McClory, McClory.
I'm sure that wasn't the first time that name has
been screwed up?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yep, yep, ed.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
From flashing the pan, Welcome on ed, good to see
you here. He always got the eyes he's peeking around,
snooping on us.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yep, yep, yep, welcome, Welcome Andrew's adventures. Look at it?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Is this not the best right here for Casey? Best
digging tools on the planet, one hundred percent customizable.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
And made in Utah, USA. That's right, that's right, that's awesome. Absolutely,
we're gonna have Casey on here pretty soon. You guys
are here to find out all about Casey and what
he's got going on with the shovels. There's some great shovels. Man,
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, how about the dirty money Lover's right, Tim, mister
il digger, Good to see you, Okay, So yeah, explain
this to uslkor Troy, like, uh, somebody said they came
over to fifty two eight Adventures I wonder if my
stream's having problems. This was this was a while ago.

(03:31):
This was over a half hour ago. I think we're
doing all right.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
All right, good, Yeah, never know, right, once you push
that button, you just don't know. It's like rolling down.
We've been booted before.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
We had no clues, so two times, right, we've gotten
booted twice.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, we're just the rebels, like outlaws. Yeah, something like that,
something like that.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Hey, Nick from Thin Blue Diggers saying good evening, everyone,
good evening.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Like your hat's Nick, check it out? To check that out? Yeah,
see detect SD a good one.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
When the waiter room is stacked, He's right, we've got
a lot of people here waiting for us to get
through this. Let's start zipping. We've got Bill Hayes will
good to have Bill on. How about this one? The
Bad Idea lab Boy.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I like that sounds like a band. Is that a band?
Oh yeah? It goes along with Masters of Metal. There
we go.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh yeah, the two of them battle the bands right there,
Patty d welcome in, Patty, Patty. How about Larry Stevens
from Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I haven't seen you in a while, bug tussle Larry
good to see. Still have to have him on. I know,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
We say that every time we see his name. Robert
Thompson says, howdy, let's see moving on down. We're almost
through it. Full metal Digger Rose Killers. That's that's funny.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
That's a good one. I like that one. I'm thinking, Jedi,
we're both trying to put it up. Sorry, leave my
hands off the mouth. You're good. Uh. Every time I
see that, man, I'm just like, I gotta do the sound.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
If you think about really, Jedi, Hey want to say
hi to Teresa the Treasure Hunter. She's gracing us tonight
with their presence. Love having Teresa in the chat.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Absolutely, Hello, Teresa. We got metal tecting Noco. I've heard
of that guy that's I think his name is Michael. Yeah,
I met him a time or two. Yeah, he's got
a cool hat.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
He's did you see he's he's doing the aer ration
now and people's people's yards. He's like, you know, he
walks up to him and hey, I don't want to
just put you know, dig one hole in your yard?
Do you mind if I dig like twelve thousand holes
in your yard?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I asked if he was I asked him if he
was replacing all the plugs that he dug.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's funny, Workman's adventures.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Good evening, everyone, welcome, Lex Blazon Television.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Good to have you here. Lex, Good to see you.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Dave Cruckshank, I have to mess. Uh mentioned hot mess fishing.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Hot mass fishing. Good to see you.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right about Yancy. I think we're just going to jump
to the bottom. And we have so many people here
right now, we'll.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Can show tonight a lot of stuff to talk about.
Let's just start getting into it. Uh, let's bring Casey
on for sure. Get ready, Casey? Here we go there
he is. Hey, Callas, how are you welcome? Look at

(07:00):
that backdrop, man? I like that. Yeah, that's awesome, like
totally totally perfect. It's not better than mine. Like I
like that nice solid background. That's good. You'll get lost
in it. Perfect.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah. You guys know the table dressings that you buy
online for your that's I just did that over a stick.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh okay, that's so there you go. So the secrets
of videography, that's right. That's cool. Uh, you're doing that
a lot these days. You go into events and stuff
and kind of trying to get out I know you're
busier than busy, but what do you think?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I can, I can work seven days in a
row and you're on end because it's I'm not busy.
But yeah, I've been to I went to the show
Me event in Missouri a couple of weeks ago. It's
really fun, really cool to see all those people. I've
I've got other ones. I'm gonna go to the Moonlake gathering.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay is that Uh, that's Terry Carter's isn't it right? Yeah,
a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, he's cool.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's a Utah boy for you. Huh yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah. So and then you know all the different stories
sasquatch and treasure and they talk about a ton of.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Different rancher walk and skin rancher skinwalker ranch right and
all that stuff. What do they call the neflim neflim
the giants that you that they oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
all kinds of cool stories. Man, Tony and I had
dinner with him one time, him and him and Gypsy. Yeah,

(08:36):
for a combination. It was the four of us at dinner.
That was That was an interesting night. Lots of stories.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
We could have talked to him forever. Man, we need
to have him on Tony we should Yeah. Yeah, his
channel's doing well.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
And so Gypsy helped me out in Missouri. She helped
me sell shovels.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
So oh yeah, come over, OK.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, and you know a lot of people come around Gypsy.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
The crowd, doesn't she And she's wonderful. She's a wonderful person, like.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Oh yeah, she's nice. She's really nice. And you know
she's not she doesn't exit conversations early. She is nice
to everybody.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
YEA, yeah, wonderful woman right there.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, tell us a little bit about you, the key
Day kid ex Caliber shovels and kind of you know
what what what's your story is? Give us a little
rundown on who you are.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, when I'm not metal detecting, or when I'm not
making shovels, I'm metal detecting. That is what I do
with my time, and I'm obsessed. I have a serious
case of treasure fever, and I make the shovels too,
you know, kind of subdue it. I'm so busy now

(10:00):
well that I only get out like two to four
times a month, and you know, I guess I appreciate
it more when I get out. It's just as soon
as I wake up and until I get in bed
at night. I'm working right now. But I like it.
So you know, if you love what you're doing, then

(10:21):
you know you're doing something right.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Well, we really appreciate giving up your time to come
talk with us to now. For sure. We've always appreciated
your products and and you as the key day kid.
I mean we have a lot in common there and
just always loved talking to you. So yeah, we're sure
we're taking you away from making shovels. So whoever you're
making those shovels for, we apologize to them too.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah. I was thinking about saying his name and sorry,
but you know when it passed me. Well, I'm just
an obsessed I'm obsessed with metal tiping.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I think it's the most fascinating thing. It's a box
of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get. It's
super fun. And then I make shovels and it's a
it's amazing the evolution of the shovels from my early days.
I started about twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, so in my

(11:14):
early days to see the shovels, how they've progressed and
come to what they are now and with all the
research and development put into them, they they're so durable
they just will last for a long time. And then

(11:36):
show you guys this.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh what's that?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
I got a patent on my shovels?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh do you?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Congratulation man. How long it take you to do that? Oh?
Look at that? Like for you? Three years? Right for you?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah. So there's the Merlin is patented, the Cirq, the
Merlin and just different aspects to the design of the shovels.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Wow, dude, congratulations.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because there was only there's only one
other one that that I because I had to go
through all the shovel patents to show why.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Mine is different from what makes mine different? The only
other business I saw that actually had a patent was
roots Layer out of Finland. So yeah, yeah, here's that.
It's pretty cool to see that.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Dude, look at that. That's great. You put everything in there.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of thick for me.
So we've got a patent on them. So the Merlin,
I'll show you guys in Merlin.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
So we got a Jedi, says I dig my forty
inch t handle circuit. Yeah, I like that. That's the Merlin.
Look at that beast man. Look at that man the
great show that serrated head again let me say, oh yeah,
look at that. Now, how big is that in length
and width?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
This eleven inches long and seven inches wide. Wow, those
those deep targets that the better machines are hitting on. Now,
this saves on recovery time. But yeah, and then it's
got the the connection pat disconnection.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You can break it down, take it with you. Yeah,
you can.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Break it down and get it back together.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah. And that's it.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
And then I actually this chum Lee, my David chum
Lee made me the shirt. Checked that out and it's
just prairie pirates. And then and they got the flag
here there.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
You go on the back. Yeah, what is it? Oh cool,
we get exclber shovels. Look at that pirates. That's right
digging out there on the prairie like we do. Man,
we had we talked about before the show. We have
that in common.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, prairie, that's something I can show you I found
on the prairie.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh oh oh, better not be a Mormon gold coin. Man,
I'll reach the screen. That's one of the questions I'll
the screen at you.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Look at this thing.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh, it's a massive spoon. It is a massive spoon,
giant kettlespoon or something.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yep. And then you can see, oh.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Oh it's got a maker's mark on it. Oh they
get actually stamped makers mark. Is that a British spoon?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
So this spoon I found out in the prairie. Yeah, yeah,
And this spoon was made in England in eighteen nine.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Wow. Okay, so people listen to this. People may be
like looking, and maybe you live on the East coast
and you're like, what's so important about a spoon?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Right, that's a silver the lion passant on it, and
I think, is that King George the third on there?
But yeah, it has the lion passing and that means
it's silver. Oh wow, yeah, So the next silver.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Spoon And to that pioneer, right Casey, that was so important.
That was an important utensil and important tool for them
as they traveled from the east to the west Man
and then they they did in the desert and Casey
has little coil, taking a break from making shovels, comes
out in the middle of this gigantic world and finds

(15:46):
that spoon one and fifty hundred years later.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Man, I'm like you guys, I love chasing history and
I love researching. You guys are obsessed to with research.
I love to research, and I go through the old
New Utah newspaper archives and uh, you know, search the
dates and I find I've found certain things, like I've
found one of one things and I've proved the history

(16:12):
of it through old newspaper clippings. For instance, we got
this is a one of one known to exist trade token.
How would I know that it's a one of one
because I've been the president of the National Utah Token
Society four times. Yeah. Yeah, it's a metal technic club.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
The obsession goes out deep.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Look at this, the little Little Puck Saloon in Utah.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Whoa, and it's a one of one, only one known?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Okay, who is the proprietor? I know you probably know
by now.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, George Wood, I think there you go. Yeah, and
he he was jailed for selling alcohol on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
What you can't do that in Utah? Bad boys bad Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, you know the old newspapers they even got your
dirty laundry.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Right yeah. Yeah, that's some of my favorite things. About
looking at old newspapers. You see these stories. Yeah, they're
so stories like in my old hometowns.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
It's the old gossip of the day. That's that's how
everybody knew what everybody was doing.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
They built these old little homes in my old town
at one point because there was a racetrack that came
in and they were doing like KRT races and all
kinds of stuff. Well, that drew in the unsavory element,
and the socialites around town would post all these articles
about we need to move those homes or the racetrack
further out of town because it's drawing in an unsavory element,

(17:47):
you know. And you're just reading the dirt from the day,
you know pretty well.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I love the ones where it's telling you know, uh,
miss Jones over at fourteen Main Streets her sister from Omaha,
Nebraska visited for three days. Yeah, you know, it was
just something like that.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
That was the newspaper. That's what it was about, was
what was going on in your small little town. I
love it.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, And I was going through them and I found
out that my grandma got fined five dollars for driving
without a driver's license.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
You found it in a newspaper. Yeah, oh how cool
is that? Man?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
You got fined five dollars?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Are you a genealogist for.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
A little bit? Yeah, you know, and actually, like Princess
Diane was my second cousin. I think so, Like if
you look at our eyes in our family, we have
the similar eyes to her. And this that little wrinkle
next to your eye. It's crazy. How when I look
at my family members, we all have it.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow on Gus on your dead side.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Make that clear. Don't let that you know, Yeah, Egyptians,
that's going on.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I didn't make that connection. It took me a minute.
But yeah, we won't talk about that.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
No club lag for me, Giant.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm doing good, that's good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Lurker Troy says the newspapers they used to be the
crime stoppers back in the day, the.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I mean, it's great if if people aren't using newspapers
as research, man, you're missing out.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
On the fine details, you know, like the swimming holes. Right.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Ken looks for swimming holes on newspapers because it tells you,
you know, we're meeting over there for a picnic on
Sunday the seventeen. Yeah, or sometimes it's morbid sometimes it's like, well, right,
the local swimming hole, you know, and you're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
But where's it at? Where's where was that at? Sorry? Boys,
but where was that at?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, they're actually out here. I wasn't in this particular
ghost town when this happened, but they were digging up
a trash pit looking for bottles and that kind of stuff,
and they found a body.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh and it's you.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Know, it's in a ghost town here. There's some ghost
downs here that were where they say was Dodge City
Tombstone all wrapped into one. Things got crazy out here
in Utah. You know. There's a one particular time there
was like nine to twelve murders a day and there's
five thousand people there, and they have all the newspaper

(20:36):
you know, you go through and so got murdered today.
So they yeah, they would bring a wagon through in
the mornings and pick up people and take them to boothill. Yeah.
It was really interesting. But yeah, so they called in
and it was an old you know, late eighteen hundreds
burial of somebody in a trash pit.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Wow. Man, the train station.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
A lot of people, yeah, a lot of right, Yeah,
a lot of people would just fill it back in.
They come across some like something that they see as
human remains, they just will fill it back in and
walk away just because because all you're gonna you could,
you know, the things you could bring upon yourself.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, right, I didn't see anything. Didn't see anything.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Your treasure hunting, you know, like I have time to
sit here and do this report.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, I would do it.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I would call and get a skeleton if I found it.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes, I called the police and the report did.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I really would, I really would. But yeah, it's the
history is incredible out here. And yeah, in that particular town,
the water was more expensive than alcohol, which I'm sure
you guys have heard in other towns.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
It's you know, you're bottling. It's all bottled and everything.
And I don't know how what was like besides like
a like a canteen or something, or did they have
like bottled water back in the day or did they
just have big, you know, barrel.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
They'd find water sources, they'd put them in barrels, they'd
put them in buckets, and they'd fill out little canteens
with them and or just cups and keep trying to
find water sources. That's yeah, that's the main thing for
the trails, right, They had to go from water source
to water source to water source. So if you're like
trying to research trails, I tell people this all the time,
and you get these old trail maps and you might

(22:38):
see a stage station and you might find the lap
next stage station, maybe forty miles away. Well, those wagon
trains could only do about twenty miles a day, so yeah,
you started scaling it right fifty Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I do that. Yeah, I scale it off of them,
and I follow those routes.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Hundred but undred percent. You're looking for those water features,
an old spring or something, and you're like, probby parked
around there man or close by.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
And the funny thing if you go out and there's
just a big open spot that there's no sage brush
or no plant life, there's a reason it's like that,
And one very likely reason is it might have been
a stop where people stopped and camped or a stage stop.
You you never know, but check those areas. And it's funny

(23:23):
because when I go to ghost Town, usually where you
park is where everybody parked.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, trail is a good route. Probably the place you're
driving right right, right, any place that you would think.
We talked to who we talked to, Tony. We talked
to the guys that hunt for the copper culture and
the first trade, and they're like, look around, use your instinct.
Anything that you think would be a good camp spot

(23:50):
a little bit high and elevation. They I mean, the
civilization is probably not the same thing you know that
would be a good spot. It's kind of camps in
near water. It's got some shade or you know, or
is up higher and higher elevation. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
So I was doing that, scaling them ount and I
found I found a spot on all this is going
to be good. There's a spring here, this could be
really good. And I ended up seeing those obsidian arrowheads.
But I got but I got a animal trap, one
of those snap traps from eighteen hundreds. It's amazing looking,

(24:29):
and the little step thing that triggered it had snapped off,
so that's why it was left out there in the desert,
and it was there though with it. So I got
it all together now and it's one of my cherished relics.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I bet that's so cool, man. Did you ever hear
Tony's schedule? A story? Real quick of his little trap
that he found were. I don't know how old it was.
Where were you. We were in Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
We were actually with Teresa the treasure hunter, and we
were hunting her b and b that had a pow
on it, and I got a signal and pulled it
up and it had a beaver beaver head I think
still in it.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Head or leg, bone or something leg.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Or something like that. Yeah, but I mean it was older.
It was probably in the closed track.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, it sprung and killed it and then you know
whatever animals it was still inside there.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, I think it was the jar or the top
of the jar or something.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Because we left it on the property for the the land.
We wouldn't have left just a leg. I mean, you
couldn't identify a leg.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
It definitely was a head or maybe we found the
head next to it or something, but yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It didn't put it in the bed like underneath the pill.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
See. And that's the thing. You never know. It's the
story is figured out as the day goes on, and
you just never know. You never know. You can sometimes
beaverhead right.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sometimes you know the story of the location, but you
may not understand or know the exact story of the relic,
which which just it just makes it. I mean, you know,
you can, you can infer a lot of things based
on what research you've done. And what I was gonna
mention was, you know, I'm glad that you said that.
You know, Utah, the West area, you know us in

(26:13):
the Rocky Mountains. There is a lot of history out
here that a lot of people don't know about and
understand and remember because it's not taught.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know, they don't teach us all the details.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
They said, oh, you know in the forty nine ers,
they went across to California, that's what you and they
leave out everything that happened from point A to point B.
And we're lucky enough that we get to do that
research and actually recover and bring back that history from
all those things that were going.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
On, right, And that's what the research. When you research
something and you find a new spot and you hit
it and you find something there that's related with what
you were looking for, it's like proving history. Yes, it's
just so satisfying hearing these things. But the spot where
they the Mormon math sucker happened. The club, our Meditating

(27:03):
Club detected it many years ago and there was nothing there,
so it's likely that that spot is not the spot
where it actually happened. Y, Yeah, that was the mountain meadow.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
So basically they just bring them young, said hey, do
not you know, let these people go on their way,
treat them good. And before the message could get to them,
they did the unthinkable. So his message got there and
they'd already done.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah. Yeah, that's uh that that whole time period. You know,
you're right, Tony, it doesn't hit the doesn't hit the
history books at all. And I know that I was.
I was. I tell the story all the time. We
had guests on the show here that really turned my
head around because I used to like be the sad

(28:01):
story like you know, oh, we're in we're in the West.
There's nothing in the West.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Like you know, yeah, yeah, finding.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Realities and we're not finding you know, coppers and colonial
this and that. But I'll just take whatever I get.
And I'm starting to like this is right. When we
first became Relic Hunters, we were like coin shooters and
then we became relic Hunters. And then we had the
guys from History Seekers on man and it was Scott
and he's just like, dude, don't stop thinking that way.

(28:29):
He goes. You know how important the West is to America.
You know how important it is. And those people that
push west, they brought everything with them, everything with them,
and left everything they knew behind. And so when you
find a relic that was so important to them. That's
why that spoon you just showed me, like, it thrills
me when I see that, especially if that had the
stamps from England, you know, and even that trap right,

(28:51):
like that guy was counting on that trap, or that
family was counting on that trap. So they made their
money and it broke, and where are they going to
find another one? Out in a ghost town like that?
You know?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
And there was Henry repeaters all over the ground, the shells. Okay,
so you know we're looking back in the eighteen sixties
seventies in that area, but I think it you know,
goes back to about you know, the eighteen mid eighteen hundreds,
eighteen forties.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, so cool, Hey, I agree with you one hundred
percent when you said that. I was just shaking my
head because it's have you ever done any gold prospecting? No?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Because if I do, I will just be obsessed with
that too, Like.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
You need another hobby, right.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Arrowheader gem hunting anything. I'm scared of them now because
I just would be obsessed with that too.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's the same thing though. You do a ton of
research if you're going to go gold prospecting to find
out where you think the gold was falling out into
the weak corners of the river or whatever, because gold's heavier,
heaviest thing in the river, So where's it going to
drop out of a heavy flow? Where's it going to
drop out? Same thing, you do all this research, You
go out there, your pants, you find gold in your pant.
It's just like, ah, you know, it's just like that

(30:06):
researching an area, going out there, your way out in
the middle of nowhere. Uh. You know, your fingers are crossed.
You've done all this work and then you find something
that justifies all the research. Oh there's nothing better, man.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I have people buy shovels for gold prospecting, and they
have me reverse the serrations so they cut when you pull,
and they stick them in cracks and cracks yeah, yeah,
the crevices. Yeah, they use them for that in uh Washington.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Wow, that's a.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I have to say. I did see five mile his
Bullseye canteen. As soon as I saw I knew it
was a canteen. I just didn't know the era in
the history behind it. But that was a cool thing to.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Great fun, really cool thing to see. Yeah it was awesome.
But yeah, hey, welcome everyone, might we might have some
new people showing up here. Welcome to Relicts Radio. If
you have never joined us before, we do this every
Wednesday night here at fifty to eighty Adventures. We also
broadcast it over on Adventures and Dirt YouTube channel. An occasion,

(31:19):
you'll see us on different Facebook pages. But yeah, we
have different gusts on every Wednesday night, and make sure
you join us eight pm Eastern right here on Relics Radio.
Tonight we're joining with Casey. He's the key date Kid
is also the proprietor of ex Caliber Shovels. And how
cool is it, Casey that early on you saw like

(31:41):
shovels like the one of the most important pieces of
kit that any metal detectors can have. Your mind detector,
what else do you need? You need a shovel. You
can shove in your in your pants, but you need
a shovel.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Right, And people love to get to metal detectors for Christmas, right,
and then January and February happened to me and I'm
working thirty days in a row. It's crazy, but I've
learned that that's going to happen. People get the detector
and they're like, I'm gonna I gotta figure out how'
gonna dig.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Now, Funny that's still going on. I think the last
time we interviewed, you said the same thing. I was like, yeah,
when's your big busy season. You're like, January, February, you
know yep?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I think you said March and now yes, March yeah yeah,
and then in March was really busy for me.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
J I didn't so what months do you want to
be busy now? And I'll say it just you need
a break. September, Hey, everyone, September you need to go
over next Caliber shovels you Yeah, that's right, September.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
D you make some cool stuff? Man, look at that
Tony showing it on the website. Yeah, this this is
the one that everyone's talking about. The Merlin. Yes, it's
such a unique time. Tell us how the idea behind
this one came about?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Because prior to this, I mean, everybody had a solid
shank or a solid you know, post shovel. And then
as far as I know in terms of at least
you know, the metal technic community, this kind of came
out and I think, man, all of a sudden, it
was like, why didn't I think of that?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Right? And when I hadn't seen any besides like some
like hokey stuff, I hadn't seen any until I put
my patent in under patent pending. Then these companies just
so happened because great minds think alike. So these other
companies started coming out with them, and I was like,
what the And then you know, you're looking at your

(33:46):
patent trying to see, you know, like what you can
do and all that. But it's a original idea that
I came up with. And yeah, the thing is, when
you designed something, the beauty is to make something as
awesome as possible and as simple as possible. If you

(34:06):
can just make something super simple, then sure you can
patent that. And if it's so simplified, people won't be
able to get around it. So that's that's the key
that I used with with these and there's other things
going on inside of them that we've done. Sure, and
you know, they're packed with fy like not the merlin

(34:28):
is only the handle, but the normal shovels, the full
shaft is packed with vibration dampening material. It's it's really effective.
It's not perfect, but I rarely am bashing into rocks
and stuff and feeling any vibrations. But yeah, if you
get on that hard pan though, once spring ends, then

(34:49):
it gets you know, you're using it like a pick.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, boy, it can get hard, can't it.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah, But Treasure Fever, you get right through.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
It once you get to that first inch and the
rest is just you know, it's butta after that.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, yeah, and you know, you know, you're just like, oh, got.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
It, It's going to get through it. Yeah, Tony had
there's a story we tell Tony had a brand new
metal detector and we tried to go out. We had
permission for a stage station, which is like, oh right,
great permission, and we went out and we still had
you know, frozen tundra out there, and we we we

(35:29):
you know, we're out in Miller's field. We're getting signals.
I think I had a new detector too, and we're
both we're both just trying to get through the ground
and I'm, I'm. We were pushing the envelope to try
to get out because we're brand new machines, were like,
we got to test these out.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I want to get out there. And it was like
you needed a jackhammer to get through it. And I
mean we had really really good signals and he spent
fifteen minutes trying to chip away, and you just you
end up giving up and it's kind of like, what
the hell am I going to do now?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
It's waste.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, when it's not frozen solid the ground. I love
detecting in the winter. It's everything's clear, everything's dead, there's
no bugs around. You just have to put a little
extra clothing on and you're you're good through the day.
I really have fallen in love with the metal text
no winter, as long as it's not frozen obviously.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, up in the mountains where you're underneath the pine trees,
that's always it's always really doable, you know what I mean,
because the ground's still really kind of appliable. It's got
all that pine pine fall in it and everything.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I actually detected a Mormon mine where they were mining,
and Mormons didn't mine they you know, bringing me on
would say not to mine, but to sell supplies. So
I went to one I was detecting and I found
an eighteen fifty three half dime. Oh my goodness, and

(36:56):
it's an exf condition. It's mid wow yep.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
And not very heard of here in the West, you
know what I mean. So great find, Yeah, great find.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, the fever runs deep within me.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Well, I mean in that type of situation, like you know,
for us in Colorado, you know, we had the pioneers,
and we had the people that sat on the homesteads,
and it could have been it. It could have been
the Germans, it could have been you don't know exactly
who it is. If you're in Salt Lake City and
you find an eighteen fifty three dime, one, you know
exactly who that's connected to.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
There's there's no questions, right right, yep. Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
And Salt Lake is I love it downtown when they're
doing construction, it's rampant down thereonally tear outs. Yeah, I
love tear outs because you can dig everything that you
want and I feel like making a mess.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
And yeah, I mean I probably found a dozen seeded
coins downtown.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
No kid, geez, just saw tear outs and stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Wow, yeah, tear outs and I died to text the
house it was built like nineteen twenty eight and found
a seated in the backyard and the blackest dirt.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
It was pretty amazing to do. But that what the
house was probably considered a mansion in the day, so
they they had money. And when you think about it,
you know, seated coins eighteen ninety two one eighteen ninety
one was last year, so you know, given forty years,
and that gets into the era where somebody could have
because this thing is it's worn the one I found,

(38:35):
so it'd probably been circulated for au many decades.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah yeah, we found something that recognizable on one side
and then completely wiped on the backside, like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Hey. So I was watching one of you guys' videos
recently and you found a ring, right, and and Tony
was saying that he like scooped up the dirt to
try to get the rocks. Yeah, bur the stones. Yeah, okay,
I gotta I gotta show you this. I found this
with my aight pro years ago.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Did you do it?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
And I found it with my at pro and I
think it hit like a in the high fifties and
this pops out.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Oh look at that. Look at that. That is gorgeous.
Geez yeah, oh man, look at that.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
You can see that. It's that late eighteen hundreds setting.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, they put that up. Mm hmm. Yeah. I found
one just like it with no stone or maybe you
responded to me and say, hey man, you saw my
post or something. But look at that now that you
didn't find it like that?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Oh yeah, I had dirt all over it.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
And did it have the stone? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
The stone?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Okay, all right, very cool.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Check this out. So we had it authenticated under short
wave and long wave black light.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Okay, yes, where's that camera?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
It's moving on me. Oh I can't get it that well.
But this baby glows like you wouldn't believe under this
black light.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
See.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Wow, it's like if you guys were here to see
this right now. It's the most incredibly red beautiful red color.
It's so incredible. I wish you guys could see how
cool that is.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
And the gold still mark on the inside. What is it?

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Eighteen carrot gold?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Beautiful? Yeah, man, that was that's incredible. Man, that's a
great find.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Wow, look at that thing. They say, it's kind of
got an orange. Yeah, it's not gonna work out.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
The like the cameras.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah, but yeah, look at that thing. It's just suspended
in there. It's cool and that.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah that what do you say? They lasted all this time?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah? Yeah, And this was a tear out, and I
asked people that were renovating the house. That's one thing
is real estate developers. You befriend those people. And what
I do is if I find some goods, Like I
sent a guy a couple of barbers and a v
nickel and he had a bunch of houses he owned

(41:26):
for sale, this one and then I go there and
find a handful and send him some mail it to him.
And then he said he had me going all over
at tech. Yeah, Indian heads, old Chinese coins, cash coins, uh,
you know, soap tokens, japaros, tokens, just all sorts of

(41:49):
fun stuff because of those real estate developers. And they're
cool because they're usually doing so well that they are.
They I don't think I've ever had one of them
ask me for anything that I found on there on
a real estate crazy they say, keep it, keep it,
all like, there's one. I found a nineteen thirteen D
type two buffalo nickel and it's like one hundred and

(42:12):
twenty dollars in g and I shout it to them
and they're like, oh, that's cool, it's.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Looking past it. What else do you find?

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, they're oh there with the house was there was
so much there. There was so much. There was still
spill with Indian heads, v nickels, barber dime, all in
the same hole. And it's on a hill, like a
really steep hill. So you could just imagine someone in
the winter sliding and pocket empties into the snow and

(42:44):
good luck because I came in the future and got
your coins.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
But you had a question. We had a question about
that that ring. Did did you verify what kind of stone? That?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
A ruby? Yeah, it is a ruby, okay, Burmese ruby.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Uh, Sri Lankan, Sri Lanka Okay, yeah, look at that.
Look at that pink.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
So it's amazing, that's beautiful, super rat amazing.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
And it's you know, this is this is you know,
like this is like what you dream of, Well what
I dream of? You know, I'm not I'm not in
the gold coin club, though.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
You will be my brother.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, we were, we were talking beforehand, and I know
that we'll talk afterwards.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
But you're you're in the right area say that. Oh yeah,
more than the right area.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yeah yeah. And you know you get a Mormon gold.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Forget it that you're looking.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
You know, if you find a ten dollars or twenty
dollars Mormon gold coin, you're looking one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars to like three million for one coin.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I'll just take one. I don't want to find them all.
I'll just take one.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
There's cool. They're cool too. They got the one showing
your video with the eagle with the bee high body. Yes,
and that one's incredible. That's my favorite one. But then
they have the one they have the other one with
the Mormon handshake on it.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Handshake. A lot of people don't know about that because
you know the history of the West and all that stuff.
But yeah, Mormon had their own money and you know,
they had gold coins, man, and they're they're really cool
and they're from way back in the day, so cool.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I would love to I would love to just see
one in person, because you know, we we can see
him online. But to me, there's still a fantasy, like
they're still not real. I do want to see one
in person, of course.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Just yeah, I've held I've held a few, have you. Yeah, yeah,
this there's one that that rest you guys. Hear about
that guy something the rest rare coins, some big Ponzi
thing that happened. Okay, let me hold a Mormon gold
coin as one hundred and fifty six thousand dollars and
it was a classic graded thing, right he hold it out,

(45:00):
me hold it and look at it, and the it
was the lion or the the eagle with the beehive.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Wow, you're like, there it is there, it is.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yes, and you know that that's like, that's the number
one thing I'd want to find is a Mormon gold
just because the history attached to it.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yes, just value, that's it. Yeah, that is absolutely.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
It's not just about the value of these pieces, it's
the historical value that that to me sends it way
off off the charts.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
What did you think about the weight of it? Cindy
just said holding gold coins, you feel the weight, and
she's so right like feeling.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
It's like, you know, you're like this ring you dig
up a gold ringer, this is a gold ring, and
then you kind of just juggle it in your hand
and it's like, wow, this is dense, this is heavy
for the what and yeah, that kind of all authenticates
it too.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, Tim mill Digger said, isn't there a square Mormon
gold coin as well? I'm not familiar with one.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
You know, there might be, but there's a lot of
They did make a few different designs, okay for sure.
But there were eighteen forties to I think the eighteen fifties,
I think that's the run. And then they United States
said stop making your own.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Money, right, Yes, they had some some choice and stern
words for the people they were.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
They were sending them all back east, the Mormon gold coins.
Most of them went back east to pay for goods
to get out here. Sure, they melted them down when
they got them. So that's why they're.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
That's why they're so rare, right, because of how many
actually exist.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Sure, yep.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
And then it goes to the road's mind and get
links into that. And there was gold ling on the
ground and this guy gathered it, and they what made
the coins from it. The thing is is, I'm sure
you guys know, since you look for gold, you can
find out where a piece of gold is from, like.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
They based on the composition of what type of gold
that it is, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
They can tell you where it came from. So sure
the Mormon gold coins, they've tested them and they're not
from Utah, and you win it. They're from the gold
came from Colorado and the Mormon gold coins.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Of course it did come on. Of course everything goods
in Colorado. We're talking about getting permissions. There's a there's
a developer, landowner, developer, we'll just call him. A really
rich guy live up north here in northern Colorado. He
basically owns Northern Colorado. Like I'm not kidding you. You
name his name, everyone knows him. He owns Northern Colorado.

(47:51):
He has so much land that has so many targets
that I'm pursuing that I would love to get on that.
I have been planning and scheming how to get in
front of this man. I am trying to. I made
a list of people that may know him, and I
try to figure that out and people that know that. No,
people that know him and develop because I'm in construction,
so we have that connection because he's a developer. One

(48:13):
of these days, man I'm gonna I'm gonna land that one.
Do you have your do you have your elevator's speech
ready for him? I do. It's it's just gonna you would. Yeah,
it's gonna take him that you would, and just.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Have the biggest smile on your face possible when you're
asking and make him feel like if they say no,
you're gonna cry.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah. Right, that's a good one. You know, bring my
wife with me and be like, you go talk to
him for me. That's right.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah, It's it's amazing how well uh or how nice
those developers are so, but some of them are scary. Yeah,
you know, they get mad that you you're all and
they're mad at you. But don't ever let when somebody
gets mad at you for asking permission, don't ever let

(49:05):
that discourage you. Because I know people that it's like
they don't go detecting anymore because they've thought shut down
so hard, and don't let that stuff gets to get
to you. It happens to everybody, and you're gonna run
into a lot more hospitable and nice people than me
and people out there and I mean people have had

(49:26):
me in for dinner and then you know that one
story I told you guys about last time and other
various things.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yea property, Jeff right, Jeff Plug master Ford always talks
about Missouri Mike. Whenever they go in a neighborhood getting permissioned,
Mike always gets invited in with the homeowner and Jeff
immediately hits the yard. It'll be an hour or two
he'll be in there having lunch, having some tea, talking
with coffee cookies, tea.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
So I went with my buddy, and that's I'm that
guy that goes like this guy. He's like, hey, this
is Butch Cassidy stayed here, Da da da, and you
know it really actually is likely he was there. But
I was so interested in the history of this guy.
I think name was like doctor Snow. Yeah. I was
so interested in the history that guy's gonna be my buddy.
Sneaks and get his detect gets his detector out, starts detective.

(50:19):
He's like, yeah, you guys can detect it. Then we're
here in the history. I was into that.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
So I finally get my detector. He's probably been teching
in half an hour. So like the owner saw us,
saw him and goes, oh, look at he's got something
and he goes he's he's all, that's a he's a
wheat sent and he's like, oh, well those weeks. You
guys can keep all the wheats you want, but if
you find a whole point, we're gonna split it. So

(50:44):
feel literally the first target I dug up when I
got my metal detector out right here, first target, he said,
split a gold coin. Well my first target.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Oh no, nineteen nine s VDB. Wow, all right, well
let's go to my pocket. Yeah, I have all the wheaties. Thanks.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I got all yeah, yeah, the rarest meant to be
wheat sent and the only week sent I haven't found
is the twenty two. But I got every other everything really,
So I got the thirty one ass, fourteen d eleven asses.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
You got the better all filled up?

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Yeah, I got the like old school posters that you
got back in the day, and I hope poked them
all in as I went along over the years. It
was like a back blackout bingo with wheat scents that chart,
and it took it took like probably seven or eight
years to fill it in, So it was no easy task.

(51:58):
But yeah, you know, if you're when you're obsessed with metal, detecting,
and you're not having so many shovels, right, you can
go out and get some good stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Well, remember watching a video from Zach Bird Zach Bird Adventures,
and this one video he did. He was on this
property and he said, this guy, this, this landowner right
here has told me no about fifteen times. He goes.
And I just keep coming by and saying, I know
you're gonna tell me no, but I have just got
to keep asking because you have the most amazing history

(52:30):
on your property. And he would threaten him and get
out of here, and he'd just keep coming by and
hold his hat in his hand, and he finally he
finally got it.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
He did.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
He did. Yeah, he says, guy, Well, you're so persistent,
I'm just gonna give it to you.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah. I've waited years to get on spots. I've had
people contact me, like two three years after I asked them.
I gave him a card and they contact me and say, hey,
come you want to come metal with Yeah. Yeah. And
so the thing is is that it really isn't don't

(53:07):
give up. I don't be annoying, but don't don't don't
give up on the spots. And the other thing is
that I've ran into a few times. Is like you're
trying to get on it and they're saying no, but
they're right, but they're really old.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Then a few years go by and you know, the
house for sale something like that, and then you get
on it. I've had that happen, and then I've I've
actually detected my own family's land like that, a house
I didn't remember from my childhood. I was there when
I was one to three years old, and I found

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at forty five walking Liberty half that my blood probably dropped.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Yeah, my gosh, oh wow. Yeah, that's amazing. I love that,
love that. Yeah, my old family would just be ideal.
I've got this great grandfather eight acres that we still
need to hunt in Kansas, and we just haven't been
there yet. It's all, you know, abandoned and just the
land is there. But if I could find something that

(54:12):
said king on it or has a k on it
or something on that property.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Yeah, and you could find that stuff in those newspapers.
You could find out like my great great my dad's grandpa,
he owned a saloon, a saloon. It was called the
Heine's Heidelberg.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
And Heidelberg.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah, Heine's Heidelberg, and I found the newspaper articles of
him standing in it pictures and.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
That gave you goosebumps. That would have gaven me goosebumps.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
It's pretty cool to see to see that stuff because
my family had never seen that, so to get to
see it, and they put it on their genealogy website.
So really cool stuff. But you can find out that
history and you can find out maybe your family, uh
was maybe he was like a wizard or a snake

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will guy that he had his name on like a doctor.
J Townsend Sasparilla bottel.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
You know a doctor is so cool.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Could you imagine like from the eighteen sixties, a bottle
with your name embossed on it from a doctor or
something like, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
People that have had that happen, they've dug bottles with
their family moment, you know, in that place forever.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So hey, look at this, everyone, look at this. We
just had a guest joining us. We have a special
guest coming on with us right now. Amazing. Let's bring
her on. It's Debbie from mine Lab. Debbie. Let's bring
you up.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
And uh, I'm here, I'm good guys.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
What are you guys doing?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Everybody deb Debbie. Everybody Debbie's with mine lab unless you
don't know. And uh, great great metal detecting company for sure,
great metal detectors. Do you know Casey Wie have you ever?

Speaker 6 (56:12):
I do? How are you doing? It's been a while.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Missed you at the hunt this year?

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Oh yeah, unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
They were sad that you weren't there.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
I was said that I was at home, so trust.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Me, I hope your hands are okay though.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
They're getting much much better, So thank you for bringing
that up.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
We uh, outside in the ring?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Who? What's that?

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Lulu's outside in the ring because I don't know when
I was waiting to come in. I don't know if
you saw it, but she got right in front of
the cameras.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
If you need to tend to her, just you go
ahead and do it, no worries. Yeah, I always have
one here. It comes in here barks for no reason.
I'm on the air dog. Well, hey, welcome, good to
see you again. It's been a while. I think that
maybe Oklahoma might have been the last time. When you
were debuting the Manticore here in the United States. That

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was a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
It was a lot of fun and Casey, I think
the last time I saw you was at the show
me yes, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Yep yeah. Those minelab glove, the mine lub gloves I
got lasted me one year. I've never had a pair
of gloves last me that long. It's usually like a
couple of months.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
So now they don't. They're bad now.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I bought more from Heath.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
History I had there. They were going strong, and then
I lost when I left it out in the field.
And then I was like, oh, so do I continue
just wearing one glove like Michael Jackson? Or do I
do I try to put some other ones on. I
have some cut resistance one I get from work that
I wear, and but it's still in the back of
my car. For sure.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
I know somebody I think they can hook you up
with it.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Okay, there you go. You know a person that knows
a person I do. Uh So where are you? Kind
of you travel a lot? Are you in the well?
You said you're at home with your dog? So you're traveling.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Now until the.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
I can't do any more events this month, but then
I'll start again in May, so I'll be in Australia
at the beginning of May for our Partner conference where
we bring the dealers out there, and then from there
at the end of May.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
This was a really good segment, A little I like that. Yeah,
I just got onto it. I'm slow.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
But at the end of May we are going to
do Masters of Metal at the Rush to the Rockies.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
It's only taken two years to figure this out.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
We have wanted you here for a while. It's going
to make it twice as special. And everyone. Tony's putting
the links in the chat. We'll put him down below
in the description as well. But you can head on
over there to the Masters of Metal in Colorado and
sign yourself up. People may not know what Masters the
medal is. W you don't want to explain that.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
So what it is.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
It's a team competition and there's within that. You have
a team of three people that will participate, and then
you'll have a named alternate. Then in case somebody gets
sick or can't make it to the championships or whatever,
you have someone to put into into play. And there's
four competitions. And this is really for anyone, whether you're

(59:27):
a beginner or a seasoned veteran. Because we'll have the
target id hunt, which you'll have twenty targets and five
minutes to.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
Determine what they are. So you'll have a card that'll.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Have twenty blank spots and then twenty five choices, and
trust me, no one does good on it.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
So I've heard it's tough.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
It is tough. I try to make it tough too.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
But and then you have a token hunt, and then
you there's a token hunt that will last you an
hour and we go in and sho So if we
have a maximum twenty teams, there's only twenty people in
the field at a time, So your first member will
go in for ten minutes, the next one will go
on for twenty and the third member will go in
for thirty.

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
And then we have goal panning.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Which I will put four scoops of dirt in a
fifteen inch goalpan with four pickers, and it's how fast
you can find them, and you have up to five
minutes to do that. And then the last one is
called the claim jumper, where that field where the token
hunt is, which is two hundred by two hundred feet,
is sectioned off in fifty foot sections fifty feet by

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two hundred feet and one member of each team will
be in that first section and they will have to
find something whatever idem So for example, you might have
to find a red pole tab amongst three hundred silver ones.
Once you find it, then your next team member can
go into the second section do it, find what they

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have to find and so on. So for the target ID,
your team points are based on accuracy. On token hunt,
they're based on how many you find on gold panting
it's timed, and then on the claim jumper it's the
order that you finished.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Oh well, so we did it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
We just didn't in at tick Stack in North Carolina
and Arkansas at the Ozarks hunt. And you know, you
might be down at the bottom after you do Target
I D but it can be which is so many
different times. Yeah, and it's it's just a blast and
everybody has a good time and that's the most important thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Yeah. I've seen them go on, We've been talking about
a couple of years, kind of was really excited and
have seen them go on at other hunts. So I'm
really happy you you were able to bring bring that
to our hunt this year. And in case you don't
know what we're talking about, rush to the Rockies twenty
twenty five is May thirtieth, thirty first in June first

(01:01:58):
here in Kyowa, call Dorado. It's a three day We're
actually having the hunts over two days, but Friday is
sort of the day you come and check in and
get to meet everyone and see the fight, the site,
and yeah, it's a seeded metal hunt, so we don't
really have too many wild places we can put a
bunch of people on, but we do have a nice
seated hunt put on by the Eureka Treasure Hunters Club,

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who's been around since nineteen seventy three and active. One
of the best clubs in the United States, one of
the largest clubs and one of the most well organized clubs,
I will say, And we put on a great hunt.
And if you're interested, just head over to Eureka THC
dot org or you can just google Rush to the
Rockies and you'll find your way over to us. But yeah,

(01:02:41):
Mash is a metal man coming to Colorado this year.
We finally we are so excited.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
DEBI were so hard, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
I'm excited to be there and literally everybody. We have
been working on this since I did the first one
in twenty and twenty two. I think it was, Yeah,
And I can remember being in my garage because I
was cleaning my garage on the phone with Jeff and
you were having a board meeting. So everybody was in there,
right and we were trying to figure out if we

(01:03:08):
could pull it off that year.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
We couldn't. Yeah, last year there was none, so we
worked out this year.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
Yeah, if you're participating in Masters of Metal, you will
not miss anything in the.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
Rush to the rockets. So we maneuver together.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Yeah, that's awesome. Love that. That's so cool. Now there
is some restrictions about if you've Casey, have you ever hunted?
Have you ever done the competition? Casey, No, No, I
haven't done it yet, not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Unfortunately, because you know, I'm like, nobody does good. Well,
maybe this guy will hear.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, you know, Colorado's not too far Casey from you
really know that, right, Yeah, we're looking for an extra
team member. Wink wink, nudge, nudge.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
There you go. Yeah, Missouri was fourteen hundred miles one
way and that was rough.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Yeah that's a long Yeah, we're not that far. We're
not that far.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Well, we were making it both the last hunts. We
were making up teams because somebody didn't know about it
and would walk up to the table and say.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
I want to do it. So we're taking names and
phone numbers and just making teams.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
That's funny. Hey you come over.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
Here, that's right, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Come on over here. We got to get a team together. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
I did forget to mention too that the first place
team will win twenty five hundred dollars, the second place
team will win fifteen hundred, and the third place team
wins eleven hundred, and then you're also invited to the
championships in Alabama at the Alabama Goal Camp in October.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
In October, yep, did you hear that? Where else can
you find an opportunity to win twenty five hundred dollars
fifteen hundred dollars or one thousand dollars for third place.
That's incredible. That's incredible. Good. You know what that means.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I'm going to have to request time off for October
because I'm sorry, but we're going to win it this time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
We're so confident off in October. Yeah, we're the Airbnb
and Alabama. We can get into.

Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
Only nice ones there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Yeah, I'm sure there are I'm sure there are. Uh so, yeah,
isn't there some restrictions though? If you've already won at
previous hunts?

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Yeah, so if you were trying to keep it that
you can only do one regional event. If we I
did have some people that wanted to do it again
that didn't qualify, and it'll just be it's kind of
based on how many teams we have. If we're only
getting two teams, then they have no problem opening it
up if somebody else wants to to show up. But

(01:05:38):
technically it's it's twenty teams as a max. You can
only do it once and then no pulse detectors. You
can use any brand of metal detector. It does not matter.

Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
If it's not mind lib, you can participate.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
If it's a mind lab, they just there. They'd start
like ten minutes back like ten minutes. They just give
you that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
They give you first place right away because you dominate.
That's why Ken wants me on his team.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Yeah. Right, just did you have the MANA core? Right?
Look at that thing in the back there? What is
that thing, Tony? It's glowing it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
He's got the brand, the brand new M nine. You know,
I just got the M nine coil.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Oh my god, Debbie, I will tell you, and I'm
not go ahead quick casey.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
You guys won't believe this. But no joke. I promised this.
I'm not lying. Okay, I got that M nine coil,
but on my math the core the first thing I
dug up. First thing, I'm not lying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
First thing, uh oh whoa.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Nineteen eleven barber half. I thought I was joke on me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
You thought it fell off the coil, like maybe they
planted they taped it on thee.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
It was in the ground, like, yeah, here was exposed.
It was out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
That's a big coin.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
But a sagebrush bush had died. And I swung that
M nine coil right next to the roots and it
sounded like a sword swing through the air and I
was like what and this sound is? There's nothing, no
good clear bangers like that. It was shocking. But that's
I'm not getting. First thing I dug up.

Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
Did you read the disclaimer on the coil? Good fines?
Good fine?

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
First good fines with them nine to Debbie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
On the bottom of the packaging.

Speaker 6 (01:07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
From when I've heard people, that's turned out to be
the favorite coil.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Oh my gosh, it's separation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I've used it twice. I used it once in a
spot that we have just absolutely pounded. My first target
was a wheat penny. My my second target was a
pocket knife, and my third was an eighteen eighty Indian
head in an area we don't find coins. Yeah, we
don't find we don't find coins.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
And then I took it out last weekend and absolutely,
I've got I've got two bags full of stuff here
with video coming out probably this weekend. Stagecoach stopped and
just absolutely overly impressed. Overly impressed is a kind word.
Just blows my mind, how how much separation, Like Casey

(01:08:25):
was saying, separation and depth, forget it. It's knocks it
out of the park.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
And I'm not kidding you, Debbie, I'm not blowing smoke. No, no,
no no, I'm going to tell the story. We saw
you in Oklahoma when you first brought the Manticore to
the United States.

Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
You had kind of previewed fifty degrees. If I remember correctly,
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
A little little moist. It was that meeting and previewing
that machine that made Tony go out and buy one
when it was available, right, He went ahead and got one,
and I've been detected with Tony since what twenty sixteen
something like that, we started to get their YouTube channels together.
Like we both we've both been kind of digging partners
ever since. So I've seen his evolution of the detectors,

(01:09:08):
you know what I'm saying. And he's always been good,
but his detecting has changed threefold, fourfold since he got
the Manti Corp. I have seen him dig more good
targets and be more selective and not dig as much
trash than I've seen him ever before he got that machine.
And that's not blowing smoke. I've seen a noticeable difference

(01:09:32):
in all of our years of detecting together.

Speaker 6 (01:09:34):
So I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
That's a pretty cool. He hasn't seen them in action yet, though,
but I heard all about it. Oh, I've told you
a lot about it. He rubs it in my face
all the time. This place we hunted out, Yeah, I'm
still finding stuff up here.

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
That's why no place is ever hunted out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (01:09:55):
Angles never well now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yeah, yeah, and Casey. Casey's supporting rest of the Rockies
this year too, But we love all of our sponsors.
That are coming out to support us here in Colorado.
Really good group of people. We always have a great turnout.
People always usually come over and have a good time,
and so come on out and hang out with Tony
and I and Debbie and uh, you know, we would

(01:10:21):
love to have you out here for three days in Colorado.
There's a talk of you guys come out a little early.
We might get together and do some detecting. H I
know Tony's on a ranch where he's kind of opening
it up to camping, right, you kind of have some
land out there that you're opening up. Yeah, we're only
ten minutes or fifteen minutes from the from Rush of

(01:10:42):
the Rockies and we've got an old homestead on the
property too, So that's that's that's where I found the
Indian Head.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
So yeah, yeah, come join us and camp out with me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Yeah, yeah, all ready to go.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I haven't talked him into putting on a big barbecue yet,
but uh, you know, we'll see what we can do.
I'm sure there'll be some whiskey probably, I'm sure.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
Did you guys want me to sign up your team
right now?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
We're gonna go online probably tomorrow and get that done.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Yeah, we uh we need Yeah, we're you know what,
We've We've got a lot of friends in the club.
We're just trying to figure out who are third and
who our alternate would be. It's gonna be it's gonna
be rough. We have so many people that are just
great text, pretty great detector us. Yeah, we'll be great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
A couple of different teams. Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be
a great time. I'm really anxious, really really anxious.

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
It will be a really good time we had.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
I was really happy that we had at both Arkansas
and in North Carolina, we had teams that had younger
kids in it. I mean they were six We had
a twelve year old. Their team finished second place. Wow,
a sixteen year old.

Speaker 6 (01:11:57):
I think it was.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
So it was really neat to see generations doing it together.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Oh wow.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
And the people that were really smart with how they
planned it with having a younger person on their team
for the thirty minute part of the token hunt.

Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
That's who's going in for thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Because see, that's smart.

Speaker 6 (01:12:15):
We do not I'll be quite an honest in the front.
We don't bury it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
You might have some buried at two inches, but we
also have some buried at eighteen inches, some at twelve inches,
so it's not just like a normal seat.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
All right, we make it a little tough.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Well, I know, we've just heard, we just heard about,
you know, the decision to bring it to our hunt
and we haven't had a committee meeting yet. Since then,
we've got it scheduled. It is going to be one
hell of a committee meeting, Debbie, I'm telling you right now. Yeah,
you wait, We're going to have sixteen seventeen people absolutely

(01:12:51):
losing their mind talking about like everything. We got to
consider everything, you know, So make sure Jeff knows all
the requirements and everything, you know, within the next week
so we can make sure that we hit that comedee meeting.
We're taking care of you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
I promise i'd had the layout and everything for him tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Oh okay, good ext week. Yeah yeah, yeah, he's your
guy for sure. We're so excited we've been We'll continue
to scream it from the rafters of course, and let
people know. I know, I reached out to James Huntley
and kind of talked with him about it and kind
of you know, try to advertise over on his Facebook page.
We'll be putting it out more and more for sure.

(01:13:31):
I like the new post you put out. That's pretty cool.
Uh yeah, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
Yeah, Oh you're welcome that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Oh man, But hey, case what's that? Yeah? Fun? If
you guys have any questions about it, either about that
or our hunt or the Masters of the Metal, you know
how to get hold of Tony or I. You can
find me at dk ad adventures in dirt dot com
and just send me a message. I'll be sure to
get that out to you. Any information you're looking for.

(01:14:00):
And what I don't know, I'll ask Tony. And if
he doesn't know, you're just kind of out of luck,
I think, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I don't have a specific email. That's like, you know,
at adventures. I'll just be a Walmart. You just just
bump into me at Walmart. You can ask me there.
I'm not cool enough to have a big cool website.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Sure you don't. Don't kid, don't kid oll Casey. We
had you on to talk about what do you think, Casey?
What's your best selling shovel? Do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
What? First of all, when did you come up with
the separation The sort of traveling that is so unique
that is so cool.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
I think, like, well, I started dabbling in that in
like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and the design has changed
many times, so it's come a long way. But I
tried all sorts of different ideas and kind of came
to conclusion that this is going to be the simplest,
best way to to make the connection. But I actually

(01:15:01):
I had this one where I screwed it together. Well
guess what. It constantly came unscrewed. So yeah, that one
was no go. But I save them all. I saved
my failures to remind me that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I think the last time we had you on, you
were talking about just developing it, like it was in development.
You may have even had some prototypes. But you're like, yeah,
it was a big hush. He debuted it. Yeah, he
debuted it or something something special. That's like, you know
what's coming up, ken, Tony, this is what's coming on?
This is it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
And now you're yeah, you got everything going on now
and you got a patent now, man, congratulations on your thanks,
thank you. Isn't that cool?

Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
I have my red and black one?

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Oh yeah, nice.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
I like to be color coordinated.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
You know. Yeah, got to have the red I don't
know where red blood came from. Jeez. Yeah, Casey sent
some really cool ones for our Colorado hunt last time
we had a hunt. It was really really cool man, Casey,
I'm sure I told you. I'm sure I sent you pictures.
But people are really stoked to win tokens that receive those,

(01:16:11):
for sure. And you talked about doing a giveaway tonight, Casey,
didn't you. We talked about maybe doing that, and we
should do that. You know what you need to do.
You need to come up with a word. Look at
that nice unsheet that baby. Look at that? That is
just Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
I like the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
American flag on that's awesome. Yeah, look at that. Oh
it's got at the end a.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Nice little glow sticker.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
So do you call that something special?

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
What is this would be come from the build your
handgger section on my website. You can you can choose
normal serrations like this or reverse serrations and you can
choose if you want them. You can have no serrations
too if you want. It's comes from the build your
ex caliber like this one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
I like the double legs.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
You got this for normal and this is reversed so
when you pull it cuts.

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Oh my gosh, I was just going to ask why
you had to reverse.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Yeah, yeah, so you can poll cut helps in a
different matters. Yeah, whatever, they get their choice of these
colors here that I have. We got we got a
nice purple that they could pick the winner or one
of my favorite I call this black Beard's Gold.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Wouldn't that be cool?

Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
You know what'd be good? But oh my gosh, we
could do an all gold one and give it away
as an award in the club, you know, the go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
And for those if you have a you know, a
girlfriend that doesn't necessarily like when you're out digging, which
has happened to me a lot, get her this one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
There you go, that's the one Teresa Treasure her hunter has.
She is one man. That thing's glowing one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
And you know what's funny is people buy these pink
shovels and pink handiggers for their girlfriends and then I
see pictures of them using them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Yeah, what you need to do. It's a good it's
a good handiger man.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
It's like that Simpsons episode with the bowling ball. It's
Marge's gift.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Casey. You know what you need to do. You need
to pick out a word that people will type into
your chat that the machine will pick out from hashtag
whatever word you come up with.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Well, I'm very simple man, So ex caliber.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
There you go. You are because you are one L.
Don't put two l's on it like I did earlier.
I was like, all right, so Tony's gonna put that up.
Go ahead, Debby, Can I make a suggestion? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
I think with every good digging too, you need a detector.
So why don't we add a exter elite?

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
Nope? Yeah, no, I'm mecading.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Oow all right, uh now what do you want to do?
Separate giveaways or just as one? You wanted to do
it as a package, Debbie, that's pretty.

Speaker 6 (01:19:23):
Generously completely up to you, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Wow, uh okay, see let's let's do them separately. Let's
do it. Let's do them. So, yeah, let's get two tonight. Yeah,
because Casey can mail his out and then yeah, okay,
make sure you guys are typing it in hashtag x caliber,
just like it's retten on the screen there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Make sure you spell it correctly. You don't need caps,
you don't need any of that kind of stuff. Just
hashtag x.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Caliber uh and you'll see right over here, it's collecting each.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Time that you uh type it you can only you
only have type it in once will kick out duplicates.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
But make sure that you guys are in for the
ex caliber right now. Yeh, that's cool. Me be thinking
of a word and we can make yours next. We'll
get to that next. So yeah, if you're if you're
lurking in the background, you're just listening into the podcast,
come on in. Make sure you put in hashtag ex
caliber and you'll get your choice of colors, right casey

(01:20:22):
and beautiful sheath, beautiful sheath.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Yeah, she leather sheath with it excellent?

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Does somebody make the sheath for you? Are you putting
those together too?

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
I'm that guy that likes to blame himself.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
So oh cool man, all handmade, all man.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what I do at night when I'm
supposed to be sleeping, I make the sheath because you know,
the neighbors can't get mad at me until ten of us. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Yeah, that's right. They're like, shut that stitching machine off
over their case.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Yeah, they're like, you quit dyeing that leather. That brushstrokes
too loud.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Right, put hammering on those shovels, Bud's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
All the grinding.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
We got to come out and visit you. I think
we need to come out. I think we will. Yeah.
I have a feeling we're going to go to Utah soon.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I got lots of lots of good places to go.
And I love asking permission. I I don't mind if
somebody says no. But the enthusiasm you put behind when
you're asking is the secret to getting on permissions. And
I get on honestly, like sixty seventy percent of the
time I get on spot m h wow. You know

(01:21:47):
the one thing to explain them too that I do personally.
I don't know if it is great for other people
to use, but I tell them I have I don't
sell this stuff. I keep it all. And you know,
I got like a small music is worth and so
if there's something you want, you can have it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I put it out that way, and so many people
have been so nice to me that I don't mind
one bit sharing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Except for the twenty dollars gold Mormon gold coin. That's
where you draw the line, that's what are you talking about.
I've never found one of those Oh yeah, yeah, all right,
we're getting there. Hashtag ex caliber area A l I
b U R eighty one entries. Time, let's go around

(01:22:33):
the time. We're gonna give you just a couple more
minutes and then pull the trigger. And what we do
this little tool we use right here will just randomly
pick somebody that has typed that into the chat. Yep,
last call ex caliber hashtag EXCaliber.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
I think we're already there. We got eighty one entries.
That's pretty good. Eighty one, all right, you're ready? Three
two one, all right, guys, let's draw this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Good luck everybody, Good luck? Everybody? Actually, what what what?
What do we need to do? Once they get called
here ken, they can email me and I'll get information
over to Casey. Uh. Okay, they can email me a
DK at Adventures in Dirt dot com uh, and then
we will there you go. He's putting it at the
bottom of the screen if you happen to be watching

(01:23:17):
the replay, and then I can get all the information
over Casey. Good luck, everybody, here we go, here we go,
good luck and she yep it is and the winner
is get that treasure, treasure t.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Get that treasure.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
That's great. Love that name. Man. You know what, and
you're gonna get that treasure with your new ex caliber handdigger.
So you'll just here's what you do. You uh, you
email me at DK at Adventures in Dirt dot com.
All one word. You're gonna tell me the color, right, Casey. Yeah,
you can go on the website. Yeah, okay, all right,

(01:24:02):
and then we will get that and the sheath right
out to you. Casey will send that to you. What
a generous offer there, Casey. We appreciate it, man, all
that hard work to just give it to somebody. We
love it, buddy, Thank you so.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Much, this wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Treasure. Congratulations. We're not done, We're not. That's amazing. The
guy new Wi is gonna come on like talk about
her appearance with Masters of Metal. I was I wasn't
expecting a metal detector and that's pretty amazing. All right,
what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
Do an Exterra Elite is the detector and let's do
a Masters of Metal.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Masters of Metal, all right, Tony, you want to put
that up hashtag Masters of Metal all one word, no
space masters with an S medal with no S. Masters
of Metal. Everyone put that in hashtag master for your chance.

(01:25:10):
Let's see that and exter elite sweet sweet man. That's amazing, Debby. Uh,
thank you so much, Debbie. That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
We appreciate it in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Yeah, my gosh, we're gonna have such a good time
and you the only thing I worry about. Here's what
I worry about, Here's what I'll work. This one keeps
me up at night, just one thing. Huh, this is all.
Just think about this. We're not gonna have anybody to
run the event, like you're gonna have to be like
you guys are over there. But like Debbie said, there

(01:25:47):
should be no interference with sort of the event. You
want to come out if people want to come and
attend the tend the event and be active in Master's Metal.
We were, but I'm just like, man, a lot of
people are gonna want to want to team up for sure. Absolutely. Yeah.
I can't wait for this. I've been looking forward to
this for a while. We have lots of land, Debbie,

(01:26:09):
so we'll be able to definitely, yeah, accommodate everything we
need to put this together. We might even have some
people that be willing to kind of help out.

Speaker 6 (01:26:18):
And uh yeah, we got that would be very helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
We have a lot of volteers and yeah, really excited
to have you. So I'm sure we'll be able to
accommodate anything you need there.

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
Awesome, you know what I want to mention too, just
we didn't go over.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
So there is a fee to do Masters of Metal
that is not part of Rush to the Rockies, And
it's fifty dollars for the entire.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Team and for the entire team.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
The team, all team members including the alternate. We'll get
a Master's of Metal head driveed shirt and a string backpack.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
There you go with your chance to win for a
second third price. My gosh, wow, how about it? You
guys want to spend fifty by shot? Yeah, I know,
I'm one hundred and fifty hundred or one thousand. Man,
What excuse is there for you not to do this?
Like there's not one? Come on, that's really really cool man,

(01:27:10):
you know, and it's fun. It's a fun event too,
like right right, We've done several things that some of
our hunts man. We used to have a guy that
lay ply with down. He had a grid system and
he'd put different fines undereath the grid and we would
we try to identify the different things like we've done
those at our hunts and it's hard. It's really hard,
but fun. It's a lot of fun. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
Well we did we did the first region was in
Florida in November, and we had done the original Masters
of Metal was done in Florida the year before. Yeah,
and this time, now that people knew what it was,
I walked in the parking lot and people have their
own concoctions made up, practicing with.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
The board, fighting the numbers of the practice.

Speaker 5 (01:27:51):
And what what I'm putting in the ground, which is
smarter figure out?

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
So right, that's oh trying to get their head tuned
into it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
That's treasure right there, it is it is, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
All right, cool yeah, Masters of Metal hashtag Masters of Metal,
no space Masters medal without an S ten more sec correct,
Good luck, everybody. Silent cues. There's no cues in there.
There's no cues. Leave that out. The silent ps is missing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
All right, eighty three people, cool, next trap pro Here
we go, guys, good luck everybody again, have the winner.
Send your email over to Dkdadventures in Dirt dot com,
YEPO or nudge me at Walmart. Here we go good
luck everyone, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Everyone, thanks for showing up tonight, and who's going to
be It's not me unfortunately. Flex tectoris flex flex Yeah,
uh yeah, pretty consistent. Uh. Watcher and comment are here.
So congratulations man, FLS. We like it when people have

(01:29:04):
names like that because we could just abbreviate it to FLX, like, hey,
thanks FLX. You know what I mean. Yeah, congratulations FLX.
Make sure email me at Dkadadventures in dirt dot com
and we'll get information right over to Debbie and I'm
sure she'll get that right out to you man. Amazing
both you guys, Casey Wi. Amazing support of our community

(01:29:27):
and and that's exactly what you're looking for in a manufacturer,
in a in a supplier of our you know, our
our community. I mean, that's that's what we are. We're community.
And you know WI, I know you and my lab.
You're out there beating the sticks like constantly. You're like
a constant in the community at all the events. Aren't

(01:29:48):
there so many events these days? Like isn't it crazy
compared to just like five years ago? Right, it just exploded.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
It's good, but there's a lot more people doing it
in newer people doing it, which is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
What his name.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Yeah, well you can see f l X here says
of a young man of mine for that detector.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
So bringing in the next generation excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
And the name is not Casey, nice tray.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
And Casey you too, man, I've seen that. You know
things have grown for you. That's awesome. And you know
you make a wonderful product. Like shovels are so important
for us as detectors and to have a nice quality shovel.
I love my cirque. I may end up getting that
Marlin because I just or the Merlin because Merlin, yeah,

(01:30:36):
is one of those in my future too. Well, Christmas
is coming up at some point. I look at that.

Speaker 6 (01:30:43):
Beautiful that's so sharp, man, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Yeah, that's shiny. I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
I want to keep it for myself, but I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
You could.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
This is my hybrid of a hand digger and a shovel.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
You know what? Who would love that? Who? Tony? Who
uses those? Oh? Charlie, Charlie. He's got the small one.
He gets on his knees and he just chops away
the leaves. He did digs into trees.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
A lot woll got the ball ball ball.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
Handle ball handle. How many different handles you got?

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
I got the ball handle and the D handle, and
a T handle and the sackstigger. You can get a
pistol grip handle. No, uh, turn it ninety degrees the
handle from a T handle, so it's a pistol grip.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
You can get that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Some people have been liking them. The other thing people
have been liking is this.

Speaker 6 (01:31:44):
I don't have any like showing televis is come.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
They like the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Cameo, the camel. See that's really cool. That's what I'm
gonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
I saw that tab on on your website here Exshovels
dot com. I saw shop all build your excalibur. And
then there's one that says Camo except you would lose it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Tony, and those lengths we.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Dig, you would lose it. That's true. You can get
those clappers on it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
You can get a massive in length shovel. This one
here is fifty inches. Seven to fifty one inches is
what I offer. Every inch.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Oh my gosh, geez, look at that. I don't think
I'll need done that long. I'm getting old. I'm getting older.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
You know what, though, you know when that would really
come in handy? It comes in handy when you're digging
around moose, especially pregnantive.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Yeah. I could have used that one to create some distance.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
I've had my run with moose.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Yeah, I bet you have not fun.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Where I found that Mormon half dome the halftime. That
was a Mormon drop. Yeah, it was a and it came.
I just came around to turn and it was right there.
It was sitting on the ground like the sphinx. Scared me.
I let out a little stream. Then a few minutes later,
some like ninety year old lady came walking past it
and didn't even care.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Yeah, it's crazy, and I was just past it. I
was up in Wyoming looking for the Forest Fin Treasure
a number of years ago, and uh, me and my
step zone, we were way back and we were in
the middle of nowhere, and we're in grizzly country. So
I was just like looking out for grizzlies constantly, and
this big, brown, fur giant animal jumped up out of

(01:33:36):
the bushes and my life flashed before my eyes. I
just thought, here we go. This is it because it
was so fast and it was so concealed, and it
was a it was a mama moose, but she didn't
have a baby with her and went the other way thankfully,
But boy, we were we were Later after that we
had to go. We had to clean ourselves up at

(01:33:56):
the gas station.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
So I've been been wyoming doing some metal detecting. I
was getting the hotel room one night up there and
I the guy at the counter said, what what brings
you out? And I'm like, I like to treasure hunt
metal detect and he's all. The guy that found the
Forest Fen treasure stayed here the day he found it. Oh,

(01:34:22):
really said that he helped him carry this giant thing
into his hotel room. He said he wanted to be
on the bottom floor. He had all these things that
he asked. He didn't say what was going on. Nobody
knew what was going on. But the guy that found
tell that that I was staying at.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
There's a new hunt out. There's a new hunt out.
Hello doggie, Hello dogg.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Could you imagine went and found that trep like found
one of these treasures that's buried and they just didn't
They just didn't say anything. They just yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Thought he invited people to then, you know, he invited people,
He said, at least take thirty days and think about
what you want to do before you, you know, contact
me or anything. So, yeah, it would. It would be
amazing because people would still be looking for it. People
will probably still be getting hurt looking for it. And
there's a new treasure there's a brand new one out,
very similar as a Yeah yeah, called Beyond the Map's

(01:35:20):
Edge with Justin Posey. You can look that up. There's
a poem just like Forrest's. There's a treasure chest similar
to Forrest's and it's got a lot of the forest
fan treasure in that box that he bought on auction.

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
So was then on the Netflix?

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Yeah, yes, I was sure. Gold see anybody familiar on
the third episode? Yeah, this guy right here, he was
on it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:46):
As long as it wasn't I'm not going to say anything.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Never mind, I wasn't digging boulders. You're good, you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Yeah, we heard, we heard that they're changing the name
of it to ken Flix.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Yeah, they didn't send me my royalty, so I'm going
to own that company someday. It's a good series. Anybody
haven't seen it, go check it out. Greed and Golden Greed.
It was good Netflix. They did a really good job
with it. But the guy in the show actually reveals
that he's now hidden the treasure, and here we go again.
It's gonna be crazy off and running again.

Speaker 5 (01:36:21):
Well when he said that, because he's sitting in front
of all those monitors behind him, Uh huh. I took
a picture of the screen going just got here, something's here.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Cann's got shots of every single every single thing. I've
noticed the difference analyzing the things. Switch times, changed it
to all kinds of stuff going on. There's gonna find
it this time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
I'm gonna find it this time. I love those things.
So listen, guys, we're gonna let you go. Thanks for
giving up your time tonight to come here entertain us
at Relics Radio. Uh give away some amazing things to
our listeners and stuff and anything you guys want to say.
Well you down the green room. Thanks again for both coming.
Both both great great represents. They have great companies and

(01:37:07):
great people to hang out with and talk to you. So, Debbie,
I'll give you your sort of final words and then
we'll let you go.

Speaker 5 (01:37:13):
Just I want to thank you guys and thank Casey
for letting me bum in here on your night.

Speaker 6 (01:37:19):
Love you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:37:20):
I love everybody that is detecting and they hope everybody
shows up for Rust of the Rockies and Masters of
Mental I guarantee they'll have a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Yeah awesome, I absolutely agree, Thank you, Casey. How about you?

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Well, Customer satisfaction is my goal. It is paramount for me.
So if anybody ever has any problems or anything, contact
me and we'll get you taken care of. I do
not abandon my customers. I will take care of you
if you need a warranty claim, even if you've done

(01:37:55):
something yourself, I'm going to take care of you and
I'll look out for you. I will cover your stupidity
at least a handful of times. It's an investment to
get a shovel, and I'm not kidding. These shovels will
outlast three to five of these other shovels that you
can get. And that's nothing anadoptal about it. That that's

(01:38:18):
the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Yeah. Well, I can testify that they are absolutely awesome,
and since I got mine, they have evolved even more so.
I can't wait to meet up with you again and
take a look at some of your new iterations. And yeah,
I hope you will have Russ rockies if you could,
would be great to see you, but I will.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
I really want to come out. But when someone wins
one of these shovels, tell them smack, hit the concrete
with it, or hit something with the spade with the
edge and see what happens. Because this is the hardening
process which I'm working on getting patented. It is incredible

(01:38:58):
now and you can dig through the sidewalk concrete with them.
It might take you a day or two to get through,
but that's what you can do with these shovels. I
put everything. I use the finest materials, the best materials available,
and I'm always trying to get better and evolve to
make the digging process recovery speed faster.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Here's what I like about you too, Casey. Is you
detect Yep, not just a manufact one piece of equipment.
You're one of us. You guys have all heard it
tonight as we've talked to him about hunting in the
ghost towns and the share of our love of this hobby.
Absolutely addicted to it, and he makes a great product

(01:39:41):
that will assist you in your addiction. So yeah, man,
thank you so much for coming on and love you
and your product. Man, It's just it's amazing to see
somebody so passionate make such a great product for us
in the community. Thank you so much. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Well, I appreciate you guys having me on an honored
be on the Relics Radio. We used to listen to
it back in the day and I was like, oh,
I want to be on there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Yeah too. We were like, oh my gosh. And now
we're kind of hosting it. Man, it's a pretty amazing stuff. Hey,
hang out in the green room, would you, Casey, and
we'll get right to you as soon as we close
the show down. Cool all right, but thanks appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Great show tonight, man, amazing show. I mean, we give
away an incredible hand digger, we give away ah an
awesome metal tector.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Just the support, like you said, man, the support for
the community. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Great people out there, take care of everybody, and we
abstually nailed it tonight on who E was here?

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Yeah, great turnout, great.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Support, you know, love all the support, Love all you
guys listening, supporting us, supporting MindLab, supporting ex Caliber for sure.
So yeah, yep, I've got a video coming out this
weekend about metal tecting in the plains of Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
We'll find some good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
We talked about it earlier, and you guys gonna want
to tune into that. Check out fifty two eighty adventures
on YouTube, all the social media, fifty two hity Adventures, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
all that kind of stuff. So I'm me over there
and leave me some comments.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Love talking with you guys. Talk with people all day.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Long, usually on Facebook, So leave me some comments.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Love it guys. Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah, you can find
me anywhere the Adventures in Dirt on anywhere on social media.
I don't have a video coming out this weekend, but
I do have one coming out soon where I'm going
to talk all about this new treasure hunt, the justin
Posey Beyond the maps Ed Treasure Hunt. We're going to
talk about Forest Fend. I didn't think I'd be ever
mentioning that hunt again, but look at us now, we're

(01:41:39):
talking about it again, brand new hunt. Maybe we'll kick
around some clues trying to get a couple of the
researchers in the hunt here on the show. See if
we can get Kalasars and Kpro up here from the
Kalasar's YouTube channel and that whole side of that community.
It'd be great to kind of cross our communities over.
But hey, if you guys go out and dig this weekend,

(01:42:00):
stay safe, have some fun. The weather's changing. Man. We're
going to have a great time this season, and if
you find something good, tell me about it. DK Adventures
and Dirt. We'll see you next Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Thank you so much for listening to Relix Radio. We
will see you back here next week for another exciting guest.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Until then, get out and dig it all.
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