S8 E16 - Relic Hunting with Claim the Past - The Next Generation - Relics Radio show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Relics Radio Wednesday night here with DK from
Adventures and Dirt. I want to bring in my co
host because we've got an amazing show for you tonight. Welcome.
It's your fifty two eighty Adventures himself. All right, man, Hey,
happy Wednesday, to.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Have another Happy Wednesday to you, another Relics Radio show.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm excited for tonight. It's be a good time.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We got a lot of stuff to talk about, a
lot of stuff to go over. And uh, we're going
a great show. How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I should first doing great? Man? Thanks are uh yeah,
busy and uh, you know, having some issues with my
dog right now, but we're getting through that pretty good.
And then uh yeah, we've been just hot on it
for this hunt we have coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
And I know we had another meeting last night for
Rush to the Rockies.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
So, uh, if your guys are listening out there, Ken,
tell us a little bit. What's uh Rush to the
Rockies in Colorado?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, you guys see all the time these metal tech
events that are going on all around the country. Rush
to the Rockies is our national open metal detecting seeded
hunt here in Colorado. It's in beautiful Kiowa, Colorado. It
is happening May thirtieth, thirty first, and June first. It's
a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. We're gonna have five hunts
over two days. So Friday is kind of like a

(01:18):
check in day. We're gonna have like a practice field
out there. Then Saturday and Sunday we're having five hunts,
including a children soun So if you want to look
for more information on that, you go to eurekatc dot
org or just google Rush to the Rockies and you'll
find it. For sure. We're gonna have a blast. It's
so much fun. It's put on by the Eureka Treasure

(01:39):
Hunters Club and Tony. There's a new element this year
that we were just informed about. Why don't you tell
who's coming to our event and what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, last week we announced that Mine Lab is going
to be joining Rush to the Rockies. Finally, it's kind
of been about two years in the making. You get
them out here to Colorado to actually put on Masters
of Medal with us. It's a whole competition type of
I don't know if it's like a tournament, but I
mean you you you win the tournament. You win this event,

(02:11):
and then you move on to the next round, and
at the end of the year they crown of Champion
the Master of Metal. So this year for our Rush
of the Rockies, we're blessed and happy that they're going
to join us and put on Masters of Metal with us.
It's gonna be awesome. It's four different events. You have
a team of four with a you know, three with
an alternate. You guys compete in different events. You tally

(02:32):
up scores and then uh, you know, got I you
have an opportunity to win first place.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
How much this first place.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Wins twenty five hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Put it in my bank account right now. It is
fifteen dollars fifteen hundred per second and third is one
thousand bucks. That's pretty good coming to act event.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
So we're excited. I mean, you're not gonna believe this,
but Ken and I are actually on the same team.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
We're all sturb Yeah, we are.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
We're so excited to actually do this.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Looks like Gene in the chat says was in Masters
of Metal twice. Lots of fun, not easy, and that's
what I think it's yeah, yeah, we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Do some practicing.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
We're gonna do some some prep for it so we
can try and do the best that we can.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
It's it's all a good time. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Competition is always great. You know, we all love competition
with each other. I know, Ken, you know when you
and I are detecting, it's always competition is who has
the best fine, but man, whoever finds the best thing.
It's it's just incredible to be there for it. So
right Masters of Metal will be the same way. I'm
excited to uh to compete with it.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
So put a team together, come on out and see
us in Colorado. You need three people plus an alternate,
so people are four and the alternate actually doesn't have
to be there, but you need to name a fourth
as an alternate. Come on out. Register your team over
at mind Labs website or Masters the Medal. You can
google that. I think we have a link. We'll put
down an in description or in the chat, and you'll

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be able to come over and join us and compete
against us. It should be a lot of fun. If
you win first place, you're gonna move on to Alabama,
to the to the to the finals, and that's gonna
be a lot of fun if you do compete. If
you come in, you compete. It costs like fifty dollars
per team, not per individual, but per team to register
over at mind Lab and you'll be able to compete

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and it won't affect the Rush of the Rockies Hunt.
So if you're trying to decide between the two, you
could do both. You could do Rush of the Rockies
seated hunt, and you'll still be able to participate in
the competition in between all that hunt stuff. So yeah,
it's gonna be a lot of awesome and we're gonna win,

(04:52):
and we're gonna win, I know.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, just you know, make sure you understand you're gonna
take second because we're taking first. We've already been smack
talking in our group chat and everything.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Creating a teammate name. Yeah, we're gonna have fun with it.
You guys got an idea for team name? Just throw
in the chat.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, we could use a good team name.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Let's see here, I'm post that.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
This group, this group, I have faith in them.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
They would be able to I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Probably not being able to share it publicly, but they'll
come up with some good name who we got joining us.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Let's see all the way at the top, and we're
gonna zip through this because I know we want to
get to our guests. Y'all are here to hear the guests,
not us. But Teresa the Treasure Hunter was here. She
was in early saying happy Wednesday, everybody. Teresa, it's great.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
To see you.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Five o'clock.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Bang.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I know she was in early. Huh. And of course
mister Bill Hayes was here. That's right.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's the Timson this Thursday, Eve. You know what time
that is. It's Relics Radio time.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
We used to be on Thursdays, that's right. Now we're
on Wednesdays, Thursday, Eve. Yeah. Brush popper detecting brush. Yeah,
here's a new one blueprint exploration.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh I like that.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Nice. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I like that.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Welcome to Relics Radio. Thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yep. I see FLX in ther winter.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, what's up with that? Big congrats to FLX. If
you guys did not see or hear that. Last week,
we gave away some incredible gifts. We gave away a
ex Caliber shovel and a mind Lab ex Terra Pro right,
ex Terra Elite Elite. Yeah, and Flex won the Metal Tector.

(06:49):
So we got all that going. That should be sent
out to FLX pretty soon. And you guys stay tuned
because we're gonna have pictures and videos of of of
the the gifts that went out are lucky winners and
things like that. So great community, and we appreciate all
the support.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
That's right. Names are already flowing in Man inches and angles.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's it, Elle, that's it.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Like you guys are.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
The kN groupies. Oh that's funny, that's right. Yeah, what
about we could have like the the Ken Flicks, the
Ken Flicks kids, something with Ken Flicks.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I am never going to leve that down, am I?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
No you're not.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Man, Well, we should bring Jag on. Jag are you
there in the green room there? We should definitely try
to bring him on. All right, here we go, Jack,
get ready, we're coming to you, Buden.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
All right, well roll, it's Radio brings to you Jag.
You guys know him out there on social media as
claim the past.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right, it's really dark where he's at right now, so
you'll just have to take our word for it.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
That's dark. Much better there is.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I just had a phone call coming in.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Audio and everyone, Yeah, everyone claimed the past.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
How's it going boys? What's good chat? How are we
doing chat?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
So yeah, tell everyone who you're at, kind of where
about you are. You don't have to give GPS coordinates,
but general idea.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Not well, if you haven't seen, like my TikTok and
my Instagram, I I'm Claimed the Past and I'm located
at of eastern North Carolina. It's my home state. This
is where I grew up. This is where I've lived,
this is where I've stayed. I love this state and
a lot better. I'm kind of a beach bum, so
obviously I live at the beach. I we're in an
Atlantic beach hoodie.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
There you go. You already know you got a little
bit of history in that area too.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
A lot of history, man, a lot of old history.
This is where the first I live in a zone.
I don't know if you've heard of the Lost Colony
or whatever, but that was like the first settlement that
came to North Carolina. But yeah, growing up, and so
I live not too too far from that zone, and
so we have a lot of like old old history,

(09:29):
and we find a lot of really really old stuff
out here.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's a great spot. That's a really great spot.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I've watched recently a lot of stuff about Roanoak. It's
it's an interesting story for sure, that everybody has their
speculation as exactly what happened to the colony and you
know which direction they moved and and all that kind
of stuff. It's a great story if anybody hasn't seen
or research anything about Roanok. It's a really really good

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historical US history type of a story and everything.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's good, good to follow up on that.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I could be wrong, but I was told they found
the lost colony. Like they they haven't gone public with
it because if they did, then it wouldn't be the
lost Colony. But I was told that they found the site.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Wait a minute, when when the later video of that
come out?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Jack? Did you find it?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Are you ready to release.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Exclusive on radio?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I have to finish metal detecting it and then on
drop recordings.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Actually, you know what, Josh Josh Gates on Expedition Unknown,
he did a thing on on Rowan Oak. Yeah, and
I'm throwing that at you know, I'm just throwing that
topic out there. Expedition Unknown, Okay, Yeah, you're gonna hear
us talk about that.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
We'll talk about that later.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Jack, Josh Kates is my boy. I love Josh.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah. Yeah, Josh is a really good guy.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I've been watching him since I was a little kid.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, so last year, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
You talked to us earlier about when he started Militech.
We'll get to that in a second. But Roanoak's another
thing too. We were just talking about on last week show.
How you know history teachers and history classes and stuff.
They you know, they don't teach everything, you know what
I mean, Like we were talking about the Mormon War.
Have you ever heard of the Mormon War?

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Jack, I have not heard of that.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
There, you go, right, big part of our history here
in the West.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's a big part of us history that nobody's even
heard about.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
No one's even heard about I've never heard of. And
people know about Roanoke, but not over a large area.
You know, people in the West probably don't get taught
about Roanoke as much as the people in these So yeah,
you gotta we got to maintain all that history.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Man.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Well, you say that the history teachers don't really talk
about certain stuff in history. From my experience, history teachers
have never talked about anything because at least where I'm from,
they don't really teach history anymore, which is kind of sad.
In the history I they taught like a lot of
American history in like middle school, but it was all

(12:07):
like it was like recent American history. It's like Civil
War in London and like through like the Civil Rights
movement all that kind of stuff. It doesn't really they
don't really talk about like uh, like colonial America and
the Revolutionary where they don't really talk about all that.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Sad, absolutely sad.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, Oh I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, go ahead, what were you gonna say.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I'm gonna say my last year or all throughout high
school they didn't teach us any history. I didn't have
any history classes in high school. Yeah, so my last
history class was eighth grade.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Wow, that's a shame, it is, you know, with that,
with that idea though, like where did your passion for history,
metal tuckting, treasure hunting, like all that, where did that
come from?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Then?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
If you know, if you don't really have it.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Will take you, will take you way back to the
very very beginning, the very beginning. I was four years
old when I got my first mental detector. It was
one of the middle twenty five little twenty five dollars
Dick Swording Goods Bounty Hunters, and my mom bought it
for me as like a birthday gift or a Christmas
gift or something, and we went to the beach with

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my friend who I think he was like a year
older than me, and we went to the beach with him,
and he had a Garrett Ace one fifty at the time,
and I had that little machine and my mom would
sit there on the beach and throw like her pocket
change out all around the beach where we were set up,
and I didn't know she was doing it, but I
would just go around the metal detector and I'd be

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finding all this like clad on the beach. And to
this day, it's the most clad I had ever found
on the beach. And it was coins that my mom
threw out. And it wasn't until like last year, or
like maybe two years ago, when I was talking to
my mom and I was like, Mom, you remember the
first day we went and detecting, I found all that
all those coins on the beach. She's, oh, yeah, I

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put those there.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I was like, no, you just you just found that
out of.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
This I found out like a year or two ago.
I went my entire anyways, So after that first beach day,
I told my mom I wanted the metal detector that
my friend had because he found more coins than me,
because he had a slightly better detector, which was the
ACE one fifty. So I convinced my mom to buy
me an ACE one fifty when I was probably five
or six years old. I used it for seven years

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until twenty seventeen. I think I was ten years old,
eleven years old, and that's when the eight nug was
like really killing it with the at Pro. And that's
when the at pro was big back then, twenty seventeen,
and so I got the at Pro and my very
first outing with it, my friend took me to a

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colonial site and it was the first colonial site I
had ever been to, and I dug like, I think
three or four flat buttons. My buddy Doug a G
two and my other buddy found what did he I
think he found a cut history next to like a
telephone or something. But I was I'm ten years old

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seeing this stuff come up to the ground like, and
it's one thing when like you're you're watching people find
it online, but it's another thing when you watch other
people find it right in front of you, and it's like,
at ten years old, I was I was going crazy
and I wasn't even the one. I was more excited
with the fines than they were, and I wasn't even
my fine.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I was just that's awesome, he's one of us.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I know, my gosh, right, did you even know who
who King George was at that time? I mean you're
ten years old, obviously like, yeah, what what?

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Who's Who's King? Who's KG?

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I knew I knew what the King George coins were
because the very first you, or not really YouTubers, but
very first uh social media stars I ever watched were
KG and Ringy, So obviously I knew who KG was
and that obviously I knew who what King or just were,
so every I knew what pretty much all the relics

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were without ever finding them, if that makes sense, Like
I had never found watched like all the common relics
that we find as relic hunters, like shotgun shells, Harmonica reads,
lipstick tubes, Like I knew what this stuff was and
I'd never found for if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Absolutely, watch a lot of YouTube.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of YouTube. I watched more YouTube
than I actually detected.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Tony and I recently were helping some archaeologists like uncover
some things and documenting some things. We didn't get to
keep anything, you know, they document it, tagget and bag
it or whatever, and they were so impressed because everything
that came out of the ground. Tony and I were like, oh, yeah,
that's a piece off of blah blah blah. Oh yeah,
that's called a that's a harmonica read and like they
didn't know how we knew this stuff, and it wasn't

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really always from just an extensive experience of us finding
tons of it, which we do, but even stuff that
we seen on YouTube videos where we were able to go,
you know what that is, that's this and that and
this and that, and they were just blown away. So
I totally understand what you're saying that you knew what
a lot of this stuff was even if you had
never found it from watching videos and stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
It's just it's a small community, and somebody somewhere knows
what something you find is, you know what I mean, Like,
somebody somewhere will know, and the vast majority of us
post our findes on social media, and because our community
is so small, like you know it, information flies around
really really quickly. And yeah, basically everybody knows what everything

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is pretty much.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Because the thing that gets me Facebook are you are
you on? Id me on Facebook? That I am?

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I'm on all the groups.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
That site absolutely blows me away because you can post
something within four seconds, You've got three comments and they're
already telling you you know what it is, and it
just but that blows me away. And that's how we
all learn, you know, about you know, relics that are
over in Rono, or you know, you learn about things
that are in Colorado, because you know, we all have
different kind of history all over the entire country. So

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it's great to see what people are finding and go, oh, yeah,
that's a that's a such and such, and like, okay,
file that away now I know exactly what that is
if I ever see one.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
All right, Well, to slightly change the topic, you said
something about Colorado. What kind of history is out there
in Colorado? Because I've never been out there, so I
know it's not horrible. I know it wouldn't be as
old as North Carolina obviously, because what y'all, what's the
oldest it gets out there.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, believe it or not, we're actually a certified state.
We're not still a territory out here. We have real
post office vehicles that deliver.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
We're not on pony Express power.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, we have power all that kind off. No,
it can't take this one.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
You're good at Colorado history, quick rundown.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, quick rundown. So what we have here is we
have a lot of pioneer history, a lot of pioneer relics.
Uh So, when they were sort of pushing west right
from the East one to expand America, pushing west, this
is all Indian territory and they kind of came through.
So as it's establishing that there was about a ten
year period that you know, from like eighteen forty nine
to like eighteen twenty year period eighteen sixty nine, it

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just exploded here with pioneers coming into the area and
they found gold in the Rocky Mountains, so they decided
not to go ahead and go to California and cross
those Rocky mountains, and so you have a lot of
mining camps here. You have a lot of military camps
from the cavalry that came this way to protect the settlers.
You have a lot of Indian War relics here, and

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then of course you have just regular pioneer relics, and
a lot of people that were in American Civil War
came this way to try to strike it rich in
the goldfields, either in Colorado or over the hills to California.
And so sometimes you find some relic of their uniforms
or things they brought with them from that time period.

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But you're right, not too many colonial relics here and
not too many Revolutionary war relics. And when we find
that always makes us scratch our head, right, So that's yeah.
And I and I used to I tell the story
all the time. I used to think that we were
very kind of historically depressed here where it's like, oh, man,
I wish we lived on the East coast cause we
could get revolutionary war and colonial and and that's the

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way Tony and I kind of thought. And we had
a guest on the show that straightened me out. He's like, again,
do you know how important it was for those for
those pioneers to push push west as far as the
America is concerned with the development of our nation. Those
those relics were everything to them. They left their entire
families and went across this baron, you know, land to

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try to make a better life for themselves. And also,
you know, manifest destiny, this whole thing that was being pushed.
You know, it was so important to America and it
kind of made me rethink and reframe my mind on that. So, yeah,
we don't have colonial but we do have some good
history here, and Tony and I go after it.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
The Native American stuff from that I've seen that's come
from Colorado has been really nice because that area has
like the agates and stuff. So you have all these
really cool colored arrowheads.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, and this city and they.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Have really skilled Native Americans out there. North Carolina. We
did not have very skilled Native Americans. Our arrowheads look
like they don't look very good. They just look like
triangular shaped rocks.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Really, Oh, come on, I've seen some stuff on your
social media. You do come across them every now and then,
for sure.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Every once in a while. I've probably picked up close
to three thousand arrowheads in my life. Only five or
six of them are actually remotely good quality arrowheads. Most
of them are not very good quality as if I
were to place it in your hand, you'd be like,

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what in the world am I looking at right now?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, once we get on a site where we know
there's Native American artifacts, our eyes are going one way,
our ears are going another way, you know what I mean,
Because we're swinging to detector, but her eyes are looking
for anything and usual. Matter of fact, one of my
last videos on my YouTube channel, I was metal detecting
and right as we got ready to leave, we had
this young girl with us. She wasn't detecting, she was
a cousin of this guy was detective with And I

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told her, I said, you know what, just go look
around every now and then you can find Native American
artifacts here. Just keep your eyes peeled for something that
stands out, you know. And sure enough, just as I
was leaving, I looked down and there was this broken
blade that I was like, So I picked it up
and I went and I dropped it in my buddy's
hand and we just all freaked out.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's really cool, really cool.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, so ten years old got at pro you're sort
of hitting it over there on the beaches now, so
you have beach detecting you have relic hunting, you know, yeah,
Native American you know probably megaladon teeth and all the
sort of teeth fossils and all that stuff. There's have

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you ever, there's so much for you to do. Man,
what's your favorite?

Speaker 4 (23:03):
My oh, it's it's got to be metal detecting, but
specifically colonial like as old as it possibly can get.
As part of the reason I've been in Florida so
much is because I want to find the oldest like old,
the oldest of old that you can possibly find in America.
That's Florida because Florida was settled by the Spanish in

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like the fifteen hundreds. So that's where, like most that's
where your earliest American relics are gonna come from, is
down in Florida. And so that's where I've just been
spending most of my time because I'm chasing those early coins,
those early buttons. The oldest it gets here in North
Carolina is like sixteen fifty. If you get to like

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sixteen fifty, you've done really really, really good, And those
sites are hard to find. My area doesn't have much
In like the eighteen hundreds, we had a lot of
like obviously the colonial history like sixteen eighty to about
seventeen ninety is about like that's like my window. And

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then there's nothing until like eighteen ninety nineteen ten, turn
of the century, there's like the whole eighteen hundreds. There's
like nothing really out here, Like there's no standing eighteen
hundreds houses, but they're standing seventeen hundreds houses, but no
standing eighteen hundreds houses, which is really strange.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Interest when are we coming to visit?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I mean out Yeah, it's everywhere out here that's crazy,
farm field and find stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, isn't that crazy? Like you can you can walk
anywhere and you're stepping on that much history. Just absolutely incredible.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
And most of the sites that I find are really interesting.
The way that I find them. I don't use maps
to find my sites. I use topography and Google Earth,
and I just guess, Like I'll guess farm fields and
I'll just walk into a farm field without my metal detector,
and if I don't see brick on the ground, I
won't swing it because there's nothing there, and I'll just

(25:06):
walk around until I see brick. And once I see brick,
I grab the detector and it's like a fifty to
fifty chance that there's actually history out there, but you
don't know until you go out there. Yeah. And also
the maps out here, there's hardly any maps out here.
Everything was documented really really poorly, at least in my

(25:28):
part of the state.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, I've heard that areas, you know that the doc
wasn't the best and stuff. But I'm sure that I know.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Like, as we're doing our research and we're trying to
pull out old maps, we use a couple of different websites,
but there's some areas in Colorado that there's no maps
prior to nineteen fifty three. Yeah, I mean, and these
are good potential areas, and I just can't find those maps.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Unfortunately, the end of the world right there.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
It just it started nineteen fifty three. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
As old as my area is. The oldest map that
I can find is nineteen eleven.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Really wow, uh huh. There's some earlier than that.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, there's some maps that are from the seventeen hundreds,
but they're like they don't show anything. It's literally just
a map showing what're like. It doesn't show the sights
right that I'm looking for.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, it makes yeah, it makes it tough. You know,
there's like the personal stories of you know, getting around
to all the old people in town and kind of
hearing these stories and having them kind of give you
some hints. There's people that have dug there before, they
can give you some hints. Yeah, but walk in the
fields finding brick. I know, Tony and I do that too,
And usually it's an iron patch with some brick in

(26:45):
it or broken glass, like a debris field, and you know,
and if we're looking for Native American, right, that's usually
sort of on a raised area near some water. And
you know, like I, like I said, once we know
there's artifacts there, like that, boy, it just ups the
anne and makes it a lot more exciting, you know.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
I'll give you an example. So there was one one
of the colonial permissions that I got. It was just
a farm field and the dudes he the dude's house
sat by the road and then his farm field was
like behind his house and it went all the way
down to like a point on the edge of a river.
And I asked him, I was like, hey, I have
a sneaking suspicion that there was a colonial house site

(27:26):
at the back of your property. And I was like,
are you cool if I go back there and do
some el detecting And he's like, my famili's farmed this
property for two hundred years. There ain't never been a
house back there as far as I'm concerned. And I
was like, well, do you mind if I give it
a shot, and he's like, Okay, go ahead. So I come.
I go back there in the field and I gave
it three or four hours. I came back and showed

(27:48):
him a handful of coppers and pistorines and he said
away that was like, yeah, it came from back there.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
I just told him how I figured this was there,
and this site is it was gone by like seventeen fifty,
so two hundred years ago when his family started farming it,
there was nothing there.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Nothing there and probably no cross contamination then either, mm hmmm,
which is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
It's it's always it's so refreshing to get on a
nice early site like that.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
He must have been blown away, Jack, He must have
been blown Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
That's happened a lot too, And I love surprising property
owners with my fines.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, there's also the other there's the other side of
it though, too, right, like, you can pull up on
this home site and he's like, oh, yeah, go back
in that back corner. Yeah, years ago.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
That's really nice. That is what I love is when
I asked for permission and I'm like, hey, I think
there was a house site somewhere on your property, He's like, oh,
it's back there. Go down walk one hundred yards east
and uh when you find the big oak tree, there's
a pile of bricks next to it.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I'm like, thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Quick just says that's right, Yes, very cool man. So
do you do you ever give your relics to the
homeowner or something kind of line them up with some trains.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Actually, yeah, I actually do. That's part of and that's
part of the reason why I love doing this is
because like, yes, I have a nice collection, and I
have a lot of relics, but I like to give
what I find back. I think it would be wrong
if I kept like everything and didn't show the property owners.
Because if I was a property owner and a random

(29:40):
person wants to come dig in my yard, uh, and
I let them and they find a bunch of stuff
and then don't let me keep it, I'm gonna be like, oh, yeah,
you're you're not coming back, but I do like to
like here. Actually I don't even know where it's at.
I have a display case already made for a property
owner that I haven't given back yet. But I have

(30:01):
these little like I'll make like these little riker case
things and then I'll like add labels and stuff and
I'll fill it with relics and uh, usually I'll take
it back, clean it up, and then I'll clean everything
up and then i'll give it back to the homeowner
and they're usually really really appreciative, and then they let
me come back. And the best is when you give
them the case and like, oh, thank you so much.

(30:23):
Now my neighbor actually has it goes on and on excellent.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Absolutely, that's that's what we hope for.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Man. Yeah, no, I absolutely do not mind giving back
to the property owners whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Do you go out with a crew or you go
out by yourself.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I actually do have a team of guys that I
dig with are on social media. I don't have a
very big team, but it's like I dig with three
main people. One of them lives in New York, one
of them lives here in North Carolina, the other one
lives in Florida and the all they're the only three
dudes I dig with.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Do you travel up and down and all you guys
switch places all the time.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Or yes, all the time. We'll go to uh my
buddy from New York will come to North Carolina, and
I'll go to Florida to see my friend, and my
friend from Florida will come up here. So we all
just kind of do our own thing, you know what
I mean. And it all kind of depends on what
we want. You know, if we want to find this relic,
we'll go here, and if they want to find this relic,
then they'll come here. And because there's different history on

(31:30):
you know, different states, so it's kind of whatever we're
in the mood for. Like if I want uh, Spanish history,
I'll go to Florida. If I want coppers, I'll go
to New York. A lot of people come here for
fossils and whatnot and forgative American.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
But yeah, yeah, I always wonder like how that works
is like you take like somebody like the Hoover Boys
that has a big crew, right or a quarter hoarder
or some of these some of these channels that have
these you know, large number of people. You know, you
got a few guys that go with you, Like, not
only you're asking for permission for maybe you go out there.
But I got four or five my pals, you know,

(32:10):
we all want.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
To go and we all dig.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Well, I will say though, the whole reason I like
enjoy metal detecting is to be able to do it alone.
That was my time to myself. And this was long
before I had like a team of guys that I
would go out with. So it is nice every once
in a while to go dig by myself. If I
want to go dig with my buddies, I will go

(32:35):
to New York and I will go to Florida, uh
to dig with my buddies. But I do have several places,
like some near walking distance from my house that I
just go spend a couple hours in the farm field
in the afternoon. Maybe I won't find anything crazy, but
it's just that's what I do to like, it's my downtime,
you know.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, perfect, Yeah, it's therapy for real, it is for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
When did you start the whole social media stuff?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
The social media started? Okay, so this is funny. It was.
I could tell you the exact day October fifth, twenty
twenty three, and I was going through like kind of
a rough patch in my life, like just you know,
one of them ups and downs type of situations. And
I was dating this girl and she broke up with

(33:28):
me because I metal detected too much and I didn't
see her enough. I saw her every single day, but anyway,
she said that I spent too many hours out in
the farm field and you know, all this kind of stuff,
and so she broke up with me. And instead of
being all sad and MOPI in my house, I went

(33:49):
metal detecting and I went and I got a permission
and that same day, and I didn't think there was
going to be anything out in the field. The very
first signal, it was a seventeen twenty one cut pistorine
that was kind of like it was it was like

(34:10):
it just made the day better. And so I it
turns out that was a virgin colonial site and I
kind of I just whipped out my phone and I
filmed my pistorine and I just started filming and I
was like, Okay, I'm gonna make a TikTok and I'm
going to get big out of spike to the girl.
But that way when she goes and she you know,

(34:32):
stalks my account or whatever, I'm gonna have a whole
ton of followers. So I said, I'm going to put
in work every single day for a year and let's
see how big I get. Yeah, Eventually it turned into
more of like, Okay, I actually do this for like money, now,
like this is like a job for real, like it said.
It went from being out of spite to some girl

(34:54):
to like, now it's like my full time everything. And
that's that's how I got into it. The first video
that I ever posted that I made in that field
got like five thousand views or something, and I was
so happy about it because as someone who's never posted
a video for who's as someone who's never had an

(35:16):
ounce of experience in like video making or anything. To
see five thousand views in my first video, I was
really really excited.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
So I went back to the spot in the next day,
found a bunch more stuff, made another video, got another
five thousand views, and then I had my Instagram. I
just started posting stuff on Instagram and that that's pretty
much how it all started. And then people just started
reaching out to me, Like all the people that I
dig with today, and everyone that I've talked to and

(35:47):
had the pleasure of meeting, they have all reached out
to me. And it's been really nice, you know, getting
to see and talk and meet all these people off
of something that I never thought would even have happened.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
So I got a question, You do you still talk
with that girl? No, you haven't thanked her, dude, No,
you got to pick up the phone and just go
it's Jack, thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Probably know, I haven't talked to anybody from high school
because that was my senior year of high school. And
I had one guy reach out and he texted me
and he's like, so you're famous now, and it was like,
I'm not really famous. I just you know, I just
did this. And but I guess I live in a

(36:37):
small town, so I guess I was kind of the
talking in high school after I graduated for a little bit. Yeah,
but I don't know, I don't I don't like to
thank too much into that like that. I don't do
the following or anything. I just enjoyed doing.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Well, you do a
good job. Man, Like Tony and I are watching your
stuff and a lot of people in the chat said
they've been following you for a while, so I appreciate
the chat.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Honestly, it's not the girl that I owe thanks to. Uh,
it's my buddy Sarahgay the chat probably knows the Russian archaeologists.
He's in a lot of my videos. I'm in a
lot of his. He's like my mentor for this. So
all my success on social media goes to him straight up,
like I'd be I would be nowhere without him. So

(37:23):
he shout out, Russian archaeologists, he's my boy, all right?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Was he your driving force or was did he kind
of show you the ropes or he was.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Not familiar with so my my, uh, my inspiration obviously
came from the whole high school breakup situation. But the
Russian archaeologist Sarage. He reached out to me and he
wanted to do a collab and it was my first
like big YouTuber collab that I was. I was like awesome,
like come on, come on down. And he was only
supposed to stay at my house for the weekend, like

(37:55):
two days. He ended up staying a month and a
half half. We became best friends and he showed me
the whole ropes for content, and my entire like style
of content just kind of changed as he like showed
me what to do, and he, you know, helped me
learn how the algorithms worked and helped critique like my

(38:17):
video making skills like all that kind of stuff. He
just gave me a bunch of pointers. Yeah, and so
that's that's how that's where the success started coming in.
He helped me get like monetized and stuff too, because
for the first like eight or nine months, I wasn't needed,
I wasn't monetized on anything. I didn't know that I
could have already made a ton of money off of

(38:39):
closely because I could have been monetized in the first
week and I just didn't know. And he's he's like, dude,
you could have been monetized by now. I was like,
my like, how do I do that?

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
I didn't do it for money. I was I was
working a job at the time, Like I worked at
a seafood restaurant at that time. And uh, He's like, dude,
you could be. You need to what's your job at
the seafood restaurant because you'll make three times what you're
making at the seafood restaurant on social media. I was like,
are you sure, because that was something that I was

(39:10):
unfamiliar with it all, like I made videos just because
I liked making videos. Yeah, And then, not to mention,
my mom and my whole family were way on the
edge with it because they were all like, you need
to go to college and you need you need to
you know, have a job, and metal detecting is not
going to be it for you, Like you can't do it.

(39:30):
And I just I begged my family to give me
one year, like a full year, just to do content.
And now they're completely on board with the content.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
So you put out some great videos, man.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
And if you guys are watching on the replayer in
the chat here, we've got Jagged from Claim the Past
and he's on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. We've been putting the
links in the chat and it's on the show notes
as well. But yeah, just just your content itself. We've
been watching a lot of it and it's kind of
geared more towards the short, short version of content, short form. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(40:11):
that's something that is very distinct for a certain type
of people.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
That aren't watch I mean Ken and I both do.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
We do long forms, and I tell you we look
at our analytics. If you're over the age of fifty
five and you're a male, you'll probably watch Ken and I.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Who are the people that watch your stuff?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Because I want to grow and get into kind of
the ideas are the areas that you're in as well.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
The biggest thing that I can say as like a
tip to give you guys, or just for anybody who's
out there in the chat or watch it, like whoever,
if you're getting into content with anything, you have to
gear your content to people outside of what you make
content about, so and they'll detecting. Most people who have

(40:59):
YouTube channels gear their content and show their content, make
their content just for other metal detectors. And that's fine
if that's what you want to do. And that's what
I did for the first eight months, and then Saragai
came down and he's like, hey, if you want to
actually go big and go legit with this, you got
to shift your content to everybody, Like everybody needs to

(41:22):
be a customer. That's like, that's like if I were
to sell you something, but only I only sold to
like one group of people, When I could be selling
the same product to a million other people, if that
makes sense. Yeah, it's more I guess like a business thing.
If you start looking at your content, I guess kind
of like a business. And what you're doing is you're

(41:43):
selling your passion. So you have to be able to
sell your passion to relic hunters and to millions of
other people.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, the waitress down at the restaurant, like we were
talking about before the show. Yeah, yeah, you want to
sell it to that waitress that's you know, waiting tables
down at some restaurant that has no interest in treasure
hunting at all, but is gaining entertainment, is entertained by
what you're selling, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Because the thing is is I could find what would
be a good example. Okay, I found an eighteen seventy
two seeded dime the other day. Right, I could go
and post a video and be like, man, I found
this eighteen seventy two seeded dime. That's really cool, and
all the relic hunters are going to go crazy of right,

(42:28):
But somebody who has never even seen a metal detector before,
I don't know what a eighteen seventy two seeded What
is that like, and they just lose interest. But if
you were to say this is a one hundred and
fifty year old silver coin, that's like, okay, well, I
know it is silver coin is and I know one
hundred and fifty years is pretty old, So I guess

(42:49):
it would be in the way that you would word
something like that. Sure, what would be another example, like
a shoe buckle for example, shoe buckle. Right, you show
this to a random person on the street, You drop
this in their hand. Okay, what is this? It looks

(43:09):
like a bent square, bent rectangle, like, I don't know
what this is. But then if you tell them, okay,
this was I don't know, a two hundred year old
pirate buckle or something like that, like you word it
however you want to make it interesting, and that that's
how people start becoming interested in what you're doing. You
know what I mean? Yeah, is if you go specific

(43:32):
with your fines to where only relic hunters can understand it,
it's not gonna you're not gonna reach like a farther audience.
So that's that's one thing I still struggle with that sometimes.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, there's a question that just came up Tony and
to grab that question from Matt.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Matt from Going Digging Welcome on, Matt.
But Matt says, do you feel that the way that
you're you know, presenting it is selling out or how
do you how do you manage? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, good, you're good.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah. Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Can you hear us?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Bud?

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Yeah, I can hear you?

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Uh do you feel like you are selling out? Like
if you're how you're fransacting it to people?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
We can see you, Bud, Okay, yeah, you're good. We
let you know if it goes out.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
My stream was bugging out for a second. I don't
know what was going on.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Okay, but.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, how do you feel that you can manage, hey, Jay.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
How to promote you know, metal detecting to more than
just metal detectors who are in the hobby.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
You know?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Can you hear us?

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Okay, can you yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
We can hear yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah. So Matt wanted to know, like, how do you
manage that balance between like being genuine and selling what
you do?

Speaker 3 (44:51):
You know?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
How do you how do you like do you feel
like it's I guess you're appealing to a larger audience,
So you're not so worried much about being true to
the relic hunters. Necessarily they get to see what you
find and they know what it is. But you're reaching
a larger audience by saying this, this reale is pirate,
is a pirate coin or something like that.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's It is kind of a weird balance,
and it can be awkward because I don't like to
directly lie, and I won't directly lie, but sometimes it
doesn't hurt to kind of bend what a relic actually
is to make people understand it, if that makes sense.

(45:33):
Like if someone came up to me and I had
a cob and I dropped it in their hand, I said, okay,
this is a Carlos the fourth two real cob. They're
not going to know what a Carlos the fourth two
Real Cob is. But if you say, okay, this is
a four hundred year old pirate coin, oh, now I
understand it, you know what I mean. So I wouldn't
drop a cob in somebody's hand and say, okay, this

(45:55):
was held by Blackbeard the pirate or something, you know,
because that would just be outward right line.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Sure, I can see that, fine, line, right, Yeah, that
makes sense.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
It is a really fine line, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
And that's how you're appealing more to the general public
rather than, like you said, specific relic country who understands
what that Spanish cop is. Kind of standing out to
those people that don't have any clue and they wouldn't
really care about it if you identified it as a Spanish.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Cop exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
But everybody, everybody's heard of pirate treasure, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah, everyone, everyone loves pirate treasures. The second you throw
pirates in there, everyone.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Goes crazy interesting.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
And I do want to back up a bit and
congratulate you because I know it was very brave of
you to address that with your family that you wanted
to take a year, and for them to because I'm sure,
I'm sure you know, Aaron I got six kids. I'm
sure there was pressure to kind of say, nope, you're

(46:57):
making a mistake, do this thing. So for you to
stand up, mistake, give me a year, very brave of you,
and then they must be really proud of you now
for what you've done with it.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
You know, well, I have never enjoyed school like ever.
I always thought of it. For me, school was a
huge scam. I here's an example. So, junior year of
high school, I skipped a hun over one hundred days
of class time, yet I passed with straight a's. How
does that work? Well, it's simple. You just manage your

(47:27):
time correctly. And all the days that I was skipping school,
I was working or metal detecting, you know. But my
grades showed that I did the work, and you know,
I was there when I needed to be. I passed
my test, I obtained the knowledge. I just didn't want
to have to sit there and do nothing all the day,
because that's largely what high school is like. It's really

(47:49):
really easy, and I didn't want to have to go
through another four years of that in college to maybe
or maybe not get a job that I did or
didn't want, you know, I would much rather just take
a year and just travel, have fun, make memories. And honestly,
if a year was all I was able to do

(48:11):
with metal detecting, and I had to go to college
because this wasn't working out, hey, that's fine, but I
just needed that year.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Have you ever been over to England?

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I would love to, and I'm I I was supposed
to go last year. I was supposed to go this year,
and I know we're still I know we're still kind
of early in the year, but I've there's there's more.
There's just a few more things on my American bucket
list that I need to cross off, you know, before
I go to England, because I feel like once you

(48:47):
go to England and you find like you go to England,
it's like, Okay, American stuff is nothing. Now I've got
a bunch of hammered collins in my pocket.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
So it's it's tough transition to come back, it would be.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
So I want to cross off those last few items
on my American bucket list and then it's going to
be all England. Like once I the last two items
my bucket list is a coral Florida Florida coral Newton,
like a really really nice ten thousand dollars arrowhead and
an escuda. That's all I need.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Wow, you're shooting shooting for the moon.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
That's easy.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
We've I've come pretty close to the escudo, but it's
never it hasn't happened yet. I've been in some zones
where they should have come up and they didn't. But
we've come close as far as the arrowhead goes in Florida.
I think I would say that Florida arrowheads are probably

(49:50):
some of the best in the world, aside from like
Malli in Africa, they have some really good ones, but
Florida arrowheads and for collectors run way way up, like
they are valuable. And I don't know if you guys
have ever seen Florida arrowheads, but they're The material that

(50:11):
the arrowheads are made out of is called agatized coral,
I think, and that comes in every color of the rainbow.
So you can have blades like six inch blades that
are neon green and purple or orange and like these
insane colors. Yeah, these arrowheads can fetch like tens, if

(50:33):
not hundreds of thousands of dollars apiece.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Wow, jeez.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
So but they're incredibly rare, Like they're very, very very rare,
especially to find a complete line worth that much money,
Like it's it's about as hard to find it as
an escudo, I would say.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
But I wasn't. I wasn't familiar with them. I'm looking
at a picture of them right now. Yeah, right, it's
a cascade of different colors. Really cool. I'm on a
Facebook page called Florida arrowheads and artifacts.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yeah, but I don't know what his name was, but
he posts a lot of a lot on that exact page.
I think his name is like Gary Cummings. Shout out
Gary Cummings. Uh, but he he's got a lot of
really really nice Florida arrowheads. And there's thin is a
dime too, man the cool. So there those are the

(51:32):
last two things on my bucket list. After that, it's
England time. Actually not even England. I want to go
to I want to go to, uh, Scotland, like Northern Scotland,
because the Roman stuff is cool, but I feel like
the Roman stuff is really common, you know. I want
my favorite period of time and like all of world
history is the Viking era, like Nordic stuff I feel

(51:55):
like would be really really cool to find. I would
love to find like a Viking sword or like a
Viking and the shields.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Could you imagine that's that's insane?

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, you can find Celtic gold and stuff like that,
and uh, you know, kind of ax heads and stuff
and as.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Those Bronze Age axe heads that come up right.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, have you found a have you found a full pistoring?

Speaker 4 (52:26):
No? My buddy found it a full pistorying, the only
one I've ever seen, Doug, and it was mint. We
were digging in like South Georgia and this was not
even that long ago, and he I dug a cob
like right next to him, and then I called him
over because he came over to see it, and I
was like, yeah, it's a cob. And then he gets

(52:47):
up and takes two steps and digs a complete two
real pistoring, and I mean it was.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Mint, Like, holy crap.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
I have to send you guys a picture of it.
It's like it's a really really crazy fun Yeah, all
my pitch have been cut, which that's cool too, but
a full pistory. And it was a seventeen?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Was it a twenty one?

Speaker 4 (53:11):
I feel like it was a weird date. I feel
like it had like a weird date. It could have
been a twenty three. But it was beautiful. One of
the most beautiful coins I've seen come out. Do you.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Do you guys get pine tree shillings in.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Your area that's up north? Those are like north Yeah,
that's a.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Northern Connecticut, New Hampshire type stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Yeah, those are New England coins.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
New England.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, we.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Don't really get those down here. I don't even think
one's ever been found in North Carolina, at least to
my knowledge. I don't think there's ever been one found.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
You were talking about the Viking stuff, and tim Il
Digger wrote in the Chat of Viking ingot with question
mark and.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
I'm about to find.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, actually he found one in England.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Really gold Yeah, gold ings, Gosh, I.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Want to find. Yeah, imagine a gold like ingage and
it's not like the stamps and stuff in it.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Yes, yeah, I'd give you some goosemps. I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Well, they come out in Florida sometimes. Are you guys
familiar with the Autotia shipwrecks?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Sure, so obviously they.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
They come out all along the treasure coasts sometimes, like
after big storms, people will go out there and find
those big ingots. You know, they're like these big bars
and they'll have like the cross like right in the
middle of them. They'll have like a bunch of markings
on too.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
That's so crazy. We got to, uh, what what did
Jeff Luber brought? Was it a sing uh silver ing
silver silver? Giant silver bar from the Yeah, we got
to hold that giant pretty incredible.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah. Also, are you familiar with the YouTube channel called
Jimmy Crossbones. Has that ever ran across your consciousness?

Speaker 4 (55:06):
I don't think I don't think. So.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I'm gonna shoot you. I'm gonna shoot you a video link. Yeah,
he was out there and they had a bunch of
washed up gold uh eight reals and stuff washed up
on the on the beach after a hurricane. And there's
this video of him absolutely freaking out as he pulled
in half a million dollars worth of gold, silver and

(55:29):
pieces of wood, shipwreck and all kinds of stuff. So
I'll send you the I'll send you a link to
the video of that.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
That's that's Florida for you, man. That's why I've been
down there, Yeah, chasing the oldest of the old.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Have you ever been down there and detected with Treasure Nick?
You know Treasure Nick is?

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Yeah, I know Nick. I've never dug with him, but
I've talked to him a couple of times. He's a
cool Yep, I've talked to him. He's out of the
Panhandle thing.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah, he's a shoot what's it called, I forget the
name of it place where he's at. But yeah, you
went to one of the museums out there, didn't you,
in Florida, Melfisher Melfisher's Museum. Yeah, mel Fisher, what did
you think of that?

Speaker 4 (56:20):
That was okay? That that changed my perspective of Florida.
That's what made me want to go down to Florida
and spend a lot of time in Florida, because after
seeing what mel Fisher found, it's like, uh, it's I
was speechless after touring that museum, Like, I was genuinely speechless.
It's It's one thing when you go out in a
farm field and you find a bunch of flat buttons,

(56:42):
and it's another thing when you're standing in a room
full of gold plates and like millions and millions and
millions of dollars worth of gold and silver and it's
all like older than anything I've ever found. Yeah, And
to to even have just like one of those coins
with that, it would be worth everything, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, going down to Florida, though, you're gonna find it,
you'll be on it.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Oh yeah, yep, I love it. If I'm down there enough,
the eight Real will come up, the eight Real cob
or the Escudo one of the other. Yeah, it'll happen eventually.
I was actually I was chilling. I was on the

(57:29):
beach where I wasn't even metal detecting. I was with
my friend uh down in St. Augustine and we were
just like on one of the beaches, just hanging out
and a dude comes walking by and he's got a
metal detector. I think he was swinging a manicor and
he had an eight real cob mounted on a networs
and I said, that's a nice eight real cob you

(57:50):
got on your necklace. And he's looking at me and
my friend, who looked like some beach bums on the beach,
and he's like, you know what this isn't like, yeah,
it's an eight real cop. Was like, where'd you find that?
He's like, I dug it. I forgot what beach he said,
but it was one of the beaches along a treasure
coasts and he's like, yeah, dug down on one of
those beaches on a low tide.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
I was like, man, you know what I was thinking, Tony.
I was like, absolutely, that's our that's our buddy, Jeff. Yeah,
he has like necklace. Yeah, and he works he works
with a salvage company that he does a lot of
work with them, and so he gets he gets a

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whole lot of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
And that's what Nick does. Yeah, it works. He's with
like the Queen's Jewels or something, yeah, something like that.
So he's down there diving them shipwrecks all the time.
I would love to do that.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
That was so cool.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Yeah, I would love that.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
So what are you swing in these days? If you
did the at Pro when you're ten and stuff, what
do you swing? Do you have a baby?

Speaker 4 (58:54):
The rest of it's in the car, but you know,
the coil to man, I I love this machine. This
is my baby. This is my baby. He's found so
much treasure. And I was actually opposed to the Days
too for a long time because I was it was like,
I was like, twenty twenty three, I'm still swinging the

(59:14):
at Max and uh. I invited my friend out and
he swung the Days too, and we went to this
spot I forget where we went. We went to some
Civil Wars spot and anyways, he was like, oh, I'm
gonna I'm gonna beat you with the daves too, And
you know how we have like these little friendly competitions whatever.
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna find way more than you

(59:37):
because I have a better metal detector. I'm like, I
don't know, I'm pretty good with the at Max. And
so we went out and I'm used to whooping everybody's
butt when I go out dig like I'm used to that,
But that is the first time where I have ever
actually struggled to keep up with relics.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
And so we came back to the car and he
found a doz and bullets like easy. I hardly found
ten that day. Like it was like he I had
to work to find those relics that day, but he
was because he just kept talking. He was probably up
in my head too, so I probably wasn't as competent.

(01:00:18):
But anyways, point is, I bought the Days two on
the spot. Like after he wolfs my butt that day,
I bought a day Is too right then, and there
I know He's like, you're not going to regret that decision.
He said, you will never swing your at max again
once you turn on your Days. And now I don't
have any of those machines anymore. I sold them all.

(01:00:39):
I had uh two eight two at maxes and an
at Pro And after I bought the Days too, I
sold my I sold both at Maxes and I kept
my at pros a backup machine, but then I ended
up getting a second day is two and I sold
my at Pros. Now I just have two days two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Well, I'll just say you, you two guys, I know
you both swing that that D machine. When when you're
ready to step up for an upgrade, we are not here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
We go jack back me up, come on, get him?

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
Wait wait wait wait, So Tony you swing a manicre right, yeah?
And can't you swing your days?

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I do, all right, and we give each other the business.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Oh stop somebody, Okay, So I I used to sell
metal detectors part time, and I have swung the manicor like.
I gave the manicor a fair shot. And the only
arguments I've ever heard with the Manicorps were, oh, it's
got to two D screens you got you could see

(01:01:49):
the I don't even use this. I don't even use
the screen on my days too. My days to go
or module goes in my pocket. And everything that I
find I hear, like in the headphones, there's from what
I've seen, and correct me if I'm wrong, there's nothing
that the days two can or there's nothing that the

(01:02:10):
Manicore can do that the Days Too can't. It's like
there is nothing because what the two D screen he.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Could charge with one chord? What is it one chord
to charge it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
He can charge it with one cord.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
He says, My Days Too is one cord. I have
a one chord charger. Yeah, that, I will say the
the there's a couple of things that I don't like
about the Days two. There's and it has its flaws.
The Days two is not a perfect machine, but in
my opinion is the best one out right now. The

(01:02:48):
thing is is, for one, the Days two is completely bluetooth.
Imagine not imagine not even being able to come out
with the metal detector with a wireless coil. The wireless
coil is is amazing. I love that, but that it's wider,
more compactable. But as far as depth goes, because that's

(01:03:09):
what most people really care about is the depth they
have equal death, I will say that the manicre does
have really really good depth. The problem is I feel like, uh,
the Manicore lacks in uh iron separation if that makes sense,
or like I think iron separation would be the correct
term for it. Whereas I I feel like if I

(01:03:32):
was in like a heavy iron patch, the manicore wouldn't
perform as good as the days two would because of
how many more features there are on the day is too,
if that makes sense, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Like you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Can you can, you can, you can change.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Down to the killer hertz of the tone that you want.
And so like with this the module, it goes into
my pocket. I have my days too running on full tones,
so every single VDI number has a different tone. So
I can have this in my pocket, have my headphones on.
Here a signal, okay, that's in eighty three, because I

(01:04:18):
just know what the sound of an eighty three is like.
On the days too. I like. I just like the
fact that there's more customer, customer's ability or whatever on
the the module as far as sounds, because I guess
I'm more of a tones person listen for those tones
more than I look at the VDI number. I don't
really I can hear depth through the days too. I

(01:04:39):
can hear the BDI numbers. I can hear when there's nails,
and you know what I mean. And at the end
of the day, it it might just be because I've
used the day as two more. But what when I
did swing the Manchor for a little bit, I just
wasn't really a fan of it, you know what I mean.
I didn't like not being able to get in those
iron patches. I felt like I was missing stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I just got the the M nine coil for the Manicore,
and it definitely does better now in the iron patches.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
A little to do with it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
When I sold Metal Detectors, I recommended people the nine
hundred over the Manicord because from what I've seen, the
nine hundred does a lot better than the manicre. Every
time I've swung up against somebody with the Manicord, the
manic Core doesn't really perform that well, but the nine
hundred is able to keep up really really well, especially

(01:05:29):
the little tiny put coil. I've got a buddy of
mine who swings a little pup coil and he's a
demon with that little put coil. Yeah, he's really I
wish h XP made a punt coil for the days too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Well, your wish maybe granted someday.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Hey, X Detectors, come on, Gary, hit me up right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Hey, we did have a question in the chat from
FLX detectorists says, what program do you use on the
dais FLX?

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
You ever heard of the technopro? You got to use
the technic program. Look up the technic program. I actually
use a modified version of the technic program, which I
think is based off of Sensitive full times. If I'm
not wrong, I think it's like a sensitive full tomes. Uh.
Sensitive full tens is the base program, and then you
change like the killer hurts and stuff. The technic program

(01:06:22):
doesn't work unless you're running the most current update on
the days too, so like two point one or two
point two whatever it is. But seriously, look into the
technic program. You will probably hate it it first, but
I promise it's a good program.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
M answer.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
We we have a site we hunt right now and
it's uh. I like the customizability too of the days too.
We have a site right now we're hunting that is
I got a video coming out. As a matter of fact,
it is the most iron ridden site I think we've
ever been on. I put it in general program. It's
just like like it's it's just ridiculous iron And I

(01:07:02):
created a program I call the x ray program, and
once I put that on, it just picks out the
good tones like crazy right out of that iron and
helps you tune into it. And uh yeah, I'll be
I'll be over that iro patch all the time pulling
out some cool some cool relics. I know, Tony does
his great job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
It's the detectors and the tool you use, right, it
is uses that mankor man like crazy, like he's really
in tune with it, you know what I mean. So
his his his his his, uh, his instances of digging
junk have gone way down, you know what I mean,
because he can he can tell he's he's got that
tuned into that machine.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Yeah, that's and at the end of the day, that's
how it is. Like I will clown on the man
for being a Days to user. I will clown on it.
But at the end of the day, if it finds
you relics, it finds you relics. It may find me
more relics because I swing a better machine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
But I know I love right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
In other words, if I'm meeting up with somebody and
I pulled my XP Days two out of my car
and they pull a manicor out of their vehicle, I
know I'm finding more relics than that person. I don't Hey,
I don't have to worry. The second and Knox nine
hundred comes out of the ground with a puck or
out of the car with a puck coil on it,

(01:08:24):
That's when I start to, you know, shiver me timbers
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
He's like, why did we have to invite this guy?

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
On? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Why you guys are all right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
They're both fantastic machines.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
And it comes down to which one you use the most,
which one you respond the best too, And it's all.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
It's all good. We give each other the business all
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
They need to let me design the Days three. I'm
telling you, if I designed the Days three, just just
know it's going to be the best machine that comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I thought they came out with there. They didn't they
what was it? There was a couple of weeks ago
they showed that, right, Ken Yeah, on April fir To. Yeah,
it was Tuesday, April first they showed up. They're coming
out with the Day is three.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah, April April, first April day that came out.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Oh I did I did see that. I didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
I sent that to Kennon and he picked up on
it right away.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Like, why why didn't Meryll tell me about this?

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
Yeah? I did. I think that the biggest the biggest
flaw with the Day is two actually there's two of them.
For one, it's the the charger. Okay, hold on, I'm
going to show you the charger for those who've never
seen a Day is too charger. This little thing right here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Don't like it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
This is the worst thing to ever exist. I hate this.
This just needs to go away.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
You have a magnetic one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
I do have the magnetic one. Yes, that's this. I
don't use that one upgrade. Yeah, yeah, because I don't.
I don't like to be sitting there spending hours making
sure the two little prongs, you know, and then you
then you finally get charge, and if you touch it,
it'll like cut off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
And I know all about that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
The second problem is you'll notice my module is not
attached to my days to the module doesn't go into
my pocket because I want it to be in my pocket.
It's a little clip always breaks, you know. And I
don't think i've ever red with the Days too that
their thing hasn't broke. It would be nice if this

(01:10:34):
was just like a magnet and it just stuck on there,
you know what I mean. It would be really nice.
It would be really nice if there was just an
app on your phone and you just clicked your phone
into there, and your phone was really nice.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I've seen people use three D printers and make up
those those attachment because it's a weak point, you know it,
It is a weak point.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I bought one of those. It's freaking amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Yeah, yeah, better than the factory huh oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
I know some I know a couple of people with
that actually, and they say it works really good. Yeah,
but if I were to add something to the daves too,
it would be depth discrimination. Now hear me out on this.
Let's say you're at a trashy site and all the
relics are like like seven to twelve inches deep, and

(01:11:25):
all the trash is six to two inches deep. Well,
I don't want to be digging all the trash. That's
like super shallow. You know, there's sights where you go
to and you have to dig through all the trash
to be able to hear all the deep stuff. Well,
what if I don't want to do that because I'm lazy?
What if you could set your machine to only pick
up targets at seven inches and below, you know what

(01:11:48):
I mean, Like that would be I don't feel like
that would be too far out of the realm of possibility. Like,
I feel like we can make that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Happen, you know, I'm sure. I'm sure there could be
a way to ignore it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Yeah. Sure, the technologies they're working on that. I mean,
you can discrimineate out certain certain materials. You know, ferris
are non ferris. You know, why can you not adjust
that to the depth then as well? Yeah, I'm sure
it can be done.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
I feel like that would be a really really solid
to the days too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I know people hunt the beach and hunt the shallow
waters don't like the fact that they have to go
from a bluetooth and then hook up a wire to
be able to enter the water. So the people that
do do that duality, I know that a lot of
times they don't. They don't like that, But there's other
machines out there for that if they don't really like
doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I feel like the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
I feel like, you know how the day is too
is waterproof, right, But the thing with the days too
is like you have to if your coil goes underwater,
you have to have that little white antenna. Why is
that necessary?

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Why why does my coil disconnect from my module when
I place it in two inches of water? Like? Why
can't you just not have stronger blue?

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
There you go?

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Or what would be even better is if are you
familiar with the job owned headphones Ken, Yeah, imagine if
if those were Bluetooth, Like why do we have all
the other days headphones or Bluetooth? You know what I mean?
Why are the job like a bluetooth Bluetooth waterproof headphones
would be really really nice for the days.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
I think a lot of that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
I think a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
You know, we've talked with Delok from Noda and things
and and a lot of other manufacturers, and a lot
of the things that they have to try to overcome
is just cost. It's not cost prohibited to make those
kind of different things. For the matter, you know, it
would gear towards a very very small area of detectorists

(01:13:45):
that would actually purchase it, and it would make sense
for them to actually put in the time and money
into it. It's not that the technology isn't good, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Oh, they definitely know how to do it. But as
far as like sailings go, it probably wouldn't be the
best for sales. So it's I guess they have to
they have to find like the margin to be able.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
To make that just for us, would you you know?

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
Yeah, we need we need the XP guys in this
podcast right now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Oh, I know a guy, I know a guy. I'll
pass some stuff on. You want to get some questions.
Tony came up in the in the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Was good recently. I wanted I just want to point
this out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Ohio, Rella Hunter says the boy Bounty Hunter had a
machine back in the day with that feature where it
would reject the first four inches.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Oh that's for about yeah exactly. Yeah for a bony
hunter too, So no kidding, it'll.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
Be crazy, No I had. I had a buddy of
mine who swung the Deus one in twenty seventeen, and
that's how I've found out about the XP because this
was like, yeah, I had never seen this detector before,
Like mine lab is pretty big and uh or a
couple like Fisher was pretty big at the time, and

(01:15:03):
then obviously it was Garrett and then my buddy brings
out the XP Daus one. I've never seen this machine before,
and he was killing it with the Deus one. I
was like, what kind of machine is that? So I've
always known about the the Deus It's just I it
didn't start going like mainstream like. It wasn't like a
huge detector up until the last couple of years, you

(01:15:25):
know what I mean, for the longest time, the really
underground machine.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
We had another question over here that came in earlier,
way early. I don't know if JP is still in
the chat, but JP said, what's the worst thing that
you've ever dinged while while you're extreme?

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Yeah, like something that you kind of ruined with a hammer?

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
What you're talking about? I have to think I have
Let me look at a couple of relics and see
what I've didned, because I don't think I've dinged anything
too bad.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
We've all scratched a good coin. I actually don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
I really think I don't really ding that much stuff.
There was a shoe buckle? Where is it? Do I
even have it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
That would fit? JP? Right there, there's a shoe buckle.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
I'll show you. There you go, There you go, a
shoe buckle. You see how there's a chunk missing out
of it. That's that's not other people ding stuff. But no,
I haven't. I haven't really danged that much stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Do you have Do you have the other piece of that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
I have the other piece of it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
That's what That's what JP does. He repairs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
That's why he was asking you can put him back together?

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Wait? Is JP still in the chat?

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
If you're in there, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
But he's brilliant.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
I have some buckles. I need you to do some
farm field destroyed with buckles?

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Are you familiar with him?

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Who me?

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Are you familiar with JP?

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Yeah? I've seen his work is amazing. He finds some
I don't think we've ever actually spoke, but like I,
I follow his restorations and whatnot. He's a phenomenal person
for restoring stuff, like I know he would. I. I've
got this buckle. It's just a standard US buckle, but
it's like you can't even really tell if I took

(01:17:27):
it out. I don't want to take it out of
the case because it will crumble the but it's like
the whole back of the plate is like falling apart. Yeah,
the plow struck it two or three times, and man,
it's just like it won't It's one of the buckles
that won't hold up for very long if I just
let it sit there, like it'll turn to dust in
three years. But I don't restore it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
He's your guy man, beautiful, fine though, incredible yep yep,
M So we got oh yeah, somebody h what's that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
And then we go there, we go there, Yeah, go
for it. You've had some videos come out when you've
been hunting World War two military type sites, finding dog
tags and some incredible, incredible stuff too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
By the way, I just yeah, have you been.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Able to let's talk about ID tag returns. Have you
been able to move through that and reactually return any
of these dog tags that you found?

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
So I'll give you a little backstory on the spot.
Since that's like that's like the money spot. That's like
where I call it the money spot because it's just
it's really easy for views because everybody loves World War
two stuff and while it's not all particularly old, and
I could really care less about a lot of the

(01:18:55):
World War two stuff, Like I find hundreds of bullets
and buttons, and like a day, like I don't even
keep half of them. I only keep the really really
nice ones. But I've been digging that spot since I
was I think ten was when I first got invited there.
It was a buddy of mine and it was his

(01:19:16):
it was his spot, and we used to go out
there like maybe once or twice a year, me and
this other guy, and uh, well, I got word a
couple of years ago that he passed away suddenly due
to a heart attack. And I called his wife and
I was like, hey, I know you were like really
big into like the dog tags and stuff. I was like,

(01:19:38):
are you cool if I continue like his work, because
he was the one who was returning all the dog tags,
and he was the one who was like doing all
the heavy research the dog tags and stuff, and the
wife was full with all of like, like my efforts
to try to continue what he was doing. So I
kind of picked up the project of excavating this World

(01:19:59):
War two base, and in the past well since twenty seventeen,
I think we've found we've definitely found over four thousand
dog tags at this base. Last year alone, I found
almost two and I was, you go out there and

(01:20:19):
find fifty to one hundred in a day, Like I hear,
I've got it. Somewhere. Let me see if I can
find it. I've got a box somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Unbelievable, Oh somewhere, I hope I have it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Still, it's probably bare. I've got a I've gotta we
all have a bunch of jumpy but I have a
box somewhere of all the dog tags from my last here.
It is from my last four outings at the World
War two base.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Goodness, man, totally c.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
This is. This is since the beginning of the year.
I've only been out there this year.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Granted, most of them, I'm gonna I'm going to cover
up the the name and part of the you know,
but really really nice. They're still in really really good shape.
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Those what what.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Have you been able to determine about those? Are those
ones that? Why are they so prevalent in that spot
that you're at? Sod there?

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
Well, So, during World War Two, at this particular base,
the soldiers were issued new dog tags. Uh every like
I think every two months, they were issued a new
pair of dog tags. So that's why there's so many.
There was also like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
thousands of soldiers here at this base. So there's a
lot of dog tags and when the base kind of

(01:21:56):
fell over and just collapse, like in the woods, that
they're just dog tags everywhere, and it's it's literally one
of the most common finds. The thing about it is
the dog tags are actually worth a lot of money.
I've had online World War two collectors offered me one
hundred dollars apiece for tags, like they're they're worth a

(01:22:17):
lot of money. But I would feel wrong about selling it,
you know what I mean. It's just I would just
feel wrong about that because I could easily find it,
find the family, and give it back to the family,
but I would just feel wrong about, you know, selling
off somebody else's stuff. So, but of those four thousand,
five thousand ish dog tags that we found, we have

(01:22:39):
been able to return about ten percent of that. So
about one in every ten tags that I find, we're
able to give back to the family, and I think
I think three of them have actually went back to
the surviving veteran.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
Wow, So that's incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
It takes so much time. Yeah, the research, every every
single tag, it takes a lot of time. So I've
got a couple guys that are helping me out with it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
That's incredible, and just this year numbers of tags that
you have obviously the amount of time to to research
and then track down and try to return. Yeah, I
think I think that idea just in general for this
community is pretty incredible. To find a dog tag, a
class ring, something that we can identify from from the past,
and be able to return that to people.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
You know, it's pretty incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
I know in the chat they're saying, you know, good
for you. You know people, people really do admire that type
of action from from from treasure hunters.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
I would say, in my opinion, anything that you find
that has somebody else's name on it, it needs to
be given back, you know what I mean, unless you
can't find Like, honestly, what do I do with these
tags that I can't find people for? Well, honestly, they
really just it, you know what I mean. I'm not
gonna sell them because in the off chance that I

(01:24:04):
am able to contact somebody, I'm gonna hang on to him.
But a lot of them go. I have given some
to a museum because I work with a museum too,
and so they take a lot of the tags too.
And uh, some members of the museum are helping to
try to research the tags and what not to. Uh,
but I don't know. Dog tags are one of those

(01:24:25):
things where it's just like I feel weird holding onto them,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Sure, Yeah, you know the d O D will take
those back.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Yeah, but also I don't know what the d D
is gonna do with them, Like they might just let
him sit too, like I would. I don't know because
I if I'm if I'm able to return them, I will.
And there was Yeah, I had a buddy of mine.
I don't know if the bracelet actually ever got back,
but we found like a sterling silver id bracelet and

(01:24:54):
it had the soldier's name on it, and I gave
it to my buddy, and I think he hand delivered
it back to the surviving relative, like in person, to
their door and gave it back to them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
That's pretty amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
So we find uh, we find more than just tags though,
like what we have found wedding bands with uh like
initials in them, and we found like religious medallions with
initials on the back, like all kinds of crazy stuff.
So we've returned more than just dog tag Like we
found jewelry and a buddy of mine found a locket

(01:25:27):
with like a photo of like the dude's wife on
the inside, and the photo was still intact on the inside,
and so I don't know if we were able to
actually return it, but that was a really cool fine
to find a locket.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Yeah, that's reward. I mean the family. I've been lucky
enough to be involved in a few dog tag returns
and yeah, you know, World War one dog tag returns.
I'd like to do a lot of genealogy research, so
I was able to kind of help out with a
lot of that stuff. And man, it's just when you
hear from the family and they're like, oh my gosh,
this is gotten the whole family together. You know, my

(01:26:03):
great grandfather and we're all military. We never had anything
of his and now we have this World War One
dog tags and pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
But the worst part is because the worst part is
when you have this dog tag and you go and
you do all the research and you finally get a
phone number and you're able to call the person and
I'll call them to be like, hey, I have your
great grandfather's dog tag from so and so World War two,
and they're like, all right, well, we don't want it, Okay, Well,

(01:26:30):
then what do you do if they do? Because more
often than not, I have family members who are like, okay,
I just I don't want it, like I don't care,
like whatever you hang on to it, I don't need
it back like they don't care. So then what do
I do? Like I feel bad, I would feel bad
letting it go off, you know what I mean? Because
they don't care about their family member who fought for

(01:26:51):
their freedom. So recycled is chaerish it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
You know there?

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
That's awesome, great, great stories, man.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
I'll honor those, And I have a whole separate display
for dog tags of like that. Their family members didn't
want the dog tags, so I have to own. I
have like its own separate case full of dog tags
that were unwanted by family members.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Amirable.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Well, hey, Jack, you've been a great guest tonight. Man,
we've already reached an hour and a half. Can you
believe it. It's a lot of fun talking to you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
It's been fun. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Yeah, we're gonna give you the floor, you get kind
of last words, and then we'll put you in the
green room. We'll say our goodbyes off the ear. If
that's okay with you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Awesome. Yeah, well it's been listen. I've had a great time.
I usually don't do these podcasts very often because I'm
running to and from all the states and and detecting
a whole lot, but honestly, this made my night. I've
I was really looking forward to this. I'm glad I
had the opportunity to come on here, share some relic
share some stories, and I'm really appreciative that you guys
were able to have me, and I hope you guys

(01:27:57):
will have me back because I actually have On this
last trip to down South we went, we did like
an east coastal trip, so we hit Florida, Georgia, and
South Carolina and we found a lot of stuff, but
I don't have it with me, so I'll get it
back in like a couple months because it's with my friend.
But when I get that stuff back, I will have

(01:28:19):
a lot of really really cool treasure that you like,
pirate treasure that ahead. I didn't show you guys to
too many relics, but next time, I'm gonna give you
guys a relector appreciate h'all love it all right, We're

(01:28:40):
a second sounds good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Awesome guest awesome show.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Everyone's already saying that in the chat man, good job Jag,
awesome show, Awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
I just want to throw out before we jump off.
Make sure you guys are signing up for Rest of
the Rockies. Sign up for Masters of Metal as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Compete against Ken and I see if you guys can
eat us over there in the Mind Lab Masters of
Muddle and uh. You can find me a fifty two
eighty adventures anywhere on social media YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok,
all that kind of stuff. Search for fifty two eighty
adventures and come see what I've got going on. Leave
me some comments. Love chat with you guys, and that's

(01:29:20):
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Yeah, you can find me over at Adventures in Dirt
anywhere on social media and also at Ken's Dais two Beats,
tony'smanicor dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
It's a rude, come on, I just dumped. I took
myself off for that knowing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
I can drop you down there too, you'd be careful.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Look, we'll see you next Wednesday with a great guests.
If you guys get out, go find the good stuff
and make sure you tell us about it. We love
hearing about what you're finding out there thanks to Jag tonight.
Great young man has the fever right. He's one of
us for sure, and we'll definitely be having him back.
Make sure you check out all his social media claim
the past. Just search for that, you'll find them. But everyone,

(01:30:05):
have a great weekend, go find the good stuff. We'll
see you next Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
Thank you so much for listening to Relics Radio. We
will see you back here next week for another exciting guest.
Until then, get out and dig it all.

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