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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Revolutionary Hour Podcast with your host mister E,
the podcast where we challenge the narratives, question the systems,
and uncover the truths that others won't. Today we're diving
deep into a subject that's been buried, manipulated, and misrepresented
for far too long. Black history is not Black's history.
It's been rewritten and distorted to serve a system designed

(00:23):
to control and confuse. But not today. Today we're bringing
you the raw, unfiltered truth. Joining us is a man
whose work cuts through the lies like a scalpel. He's
a freedom advocate, a legal researcher, and the founder of
One Stupid Fuck, a platform that exposes the fraudulent nature
of the US legal system and empowers individuals to reclaim

(00:46):
their sovereignty. You may know him as the author of
the viral course Contract Killer two point zero, or from
his unapologetic email blasts that have shaken the foundations of
so called freedom movements. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Brandon
Joe Williams to Revolutionary Hour Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Brandon hoted to have you on the show today.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
But before we dive into the lay as a truth,
you Vankovid tell our listeners where they can find your
platform and learn more about your work.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, man, thank you. Wow, that's a that's a very
detailed introduction. Wow, my website's pretty funny. If people aren't
familiar with it, it's one stupid fuck dot com. It's
all kind of a play on words and trying to
take this very serious, very intense subject and kind of
make it a little bit softer, you know. But yeah, wow,

(01:40):
this guy's really got me figured out. I don't think
I've ever had such a detailed, enthusiastic introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
So thank you already. But yeah, man, first I want
to know, man, what's up with the pick with Man?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Asley? Standpo?

Speaker 4 (01:54):
So So, I've done a couple of versions of my course.
The first version was in July of twenty twenty two
of this second version was quite a bit later, August
of twenty twenty four. And in the first course, I
was getting maybe a couple hundred people a month to
my website. There was almost nobody coming right, and I
just the first course was just a just a complete mess.

(02:17):
A lot of people like it. I was gonna actually
gonna take it down, and my audience went berserk and
they were like, don't take it down. We're gonna freak
out mutiny. I was like, all right, all right, I'll
leave it up, but I was gonna take it down.
And I watch it, I just cringe so bad. It's like, actually,
it's almost painful to watch it. But people really liked it.
They got a lot out of it. And in the
first course I used to I used to do this
thing where I'd say, you know, hey, if you don't understand,

(02:40):
if you're not getting it, it's okay. You're just gonna
head down to the local farmers market. You're gonna find
yourself the fattest, juiciest cucumber you can possibly find, and
you're gonna jam that sound of a bit straight up
your ass. Fuck you, I don't care. Don't call me,
don't contact me, don't email me. Right, And it was
it was. It was a joke, and I'd said it
multiple times throughout the course, and I didn't think much

(03:02):
of it, honestly, and uh, after the course was released,
it became sort of like a fan favorite. So I said, okay, yeah,
I said, you guys really like this whole cucumber thing
so much. I said, all right, well, we're gonna We're
gonna make that the whole the whole platform, and uh
that's you know, so so it was my kind of
There was a bunch of other crazy ass jokes, like

(03:22):
one of the things that I do in the course,
the one pointal course that was kind of funny is
I talk about how uh attorneys at law are officers
of the court and they go into the court and
they're sucking everybody off like circus steals. You know how
circus steels have the little horn they go. So I
do that, I go, I go, my headphones fall off

(03:43):
in the in the in the course, and I thought,
you know, I thought that would be kind of like
a funny thing that people would bring up, but like
almost nobody brought that up. It was the cucumber. Everybody's
talking about the Q and I'm talking like every day.
I'd get something about the cucumber every fucking day. So
I finally said, Wow, okay, that that that looks like
that's the that's the fan favorite. So we're gonna go
ahead and go with that. So that's kind of how

(04:05):
that how that got bored.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Became an unplanned mascot.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
But you unplanned mascot unplanned mascot. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
So yeah, Well, everybody who watches your courses, they obviously
want one thing and they got one thing in mind,
and that's pretty much gaining a freedom.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Tell us like, how free are you really?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Like, give us a short view into the life of
a daily life of a true free person.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Well that all depends on which way you look at it.
The way I look at it is is is there's
there's all these different areas of freedom, right, like freedom
of owning something, which is very unique. People don't realize
you don't own anything. To own something actually requires some work,
which is kind of amazing. Right. Uh, there's other areas

(04:56):
of freedom, like my my, my own opinion of of
of true freedom be like, uh, you have a credit
card or something, and then you use the credit card
and then the credit card kind of self discharges, right,
which is like craziness. I don't really know where your
audience is at with a lot of the stuff. But
you know, when you when you use a credit card,

(05:17):
you're you're producing an unconditional promise to pay, right, So,
so every time you use your credit card, you're unconditionally
promising to pay for that transaction. Right. But what people
don't understand is that a federal reserve note what's in
your pocket is also an unconditional promise to pay because

(05:38):
the definition of a negotiable instrument, which is currency, there's
only two types of currency. There's an unconditional promise to
pay or an unconditional order to pay, which is a bill.
So it's kind of a it's pretty much a mind
fuck for people because the thing is is that every
time you use your credit card, you're actually producing currency.

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And the reason why that that's true is because every
single time you unconditionally promise to pay something, you're producing
something which has the same value in law as a
federal reserve note. So when you use your credit card
and you unconditionally promise to pay for let's say a coffee,

(06:19):
that unconditional promise to pay, which when you get a
receipt from using your credit card, that receipt is actually
called a certificate of deposit, which is actually straight out
of that commercial code, right, So so you get the
certificate of deposit and it's like you got to wonder, like,
why is it are they so so freaky about giving
your receipt? Like it's like it's almost like everywhere you

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go when you use your credit card. If they don't
at least ask you if you want to receive, they're
going to lose their fucking job or something. Right everywhere
you go, do you want a receipt? And it's that
you can tell, like they've been trained. If they don't
ask that, they're going to get fired. Right. Why is
that so important? And the reason why is because the
receipt is actually a certificate of deposit, which basically means

(07:02):
it's it's evidence that you produced an unconditional promise to pay.
Right wow, So you got to think to yourself, You're
you're producing currency all the time, producing currency, producing currency,
producing currencies. You got to ask yourself, where in the
fuck is all of that currency going? And then at

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the end of the month you're paying with an entirely
different kind of currency called the Federal Reserve Note. You
got to think to yourself, ooh, hold on a second, there,
hold hold the where in the fuck is all of
these unconditional promises to pay that I've been producing all
month long? Do you guys think I just like donated

(07:44):
them to you?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Like?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
What?

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Where? Where? Where? Where? Why are what? You can act
like incredulous like confused, Like, well, hold on a second.
You're asking me for unconditional promises to pay at the
end of the month, which are reserve notes. But what
the fuck happened to all the unconditional promises to pay
that I produce for you all month long? You sent

(08:08):
me a bill it's basically a summary of all of
the unconditional promises to pay that I've produced and deposited.
I have these fucking receipts that prove that have produced
these unconditional promises to pay. But yet at the end
of the month, you're asking me for totally other types
of unconditional promises to pay, called federal reserve notes, in

(08:29):
order to discharge a bunch of other unconditional promises to
pay that I already fucking gave you that you already have.
Haul on a second, stop for a minute. I'm pretty
lost and confused. Can we please clean this up now?
They're they're obviously they're gonna think you're crazy. They're gonna
behave as though you're a maniac. What the fuck are
you talking about? Blah blah blah. So you know, the

(08:53):
problem is that the understanding of all this information is
so low that all the people you're gonna be talking
to on the phone or whatever. They they don't know
any of this. They think that Federals are money. It's not.
They think that you're you're you're the the the credit

(09:13):
card company or whatever is giving you credit. It's like,
what the fuck? How can the how can the credit
card company give me credit? I'm the one promising to pay,
right if you don't make if you don't have the credit,
how fuck can you promise to pay? If I have
no credit, I can't promise to pay. It doesn't make sense.

(09:36):
If I have no credit, I can't promise to pay.
So the fact that I'm promising to pay means I'm
the one with the fucking credit. I'm the one promising
to pay. All you're doing is just like you're like
an administrator somewhere in the middle, like like transacting these
things and moving these things around, and you're basically working
for me, brother. I'm not working for you. You're working for me, brother.

(09:57):
And the problem is is that everyone has it turned around.
They think they're working for the credit card company. That's
complete bullshit. It's complete bullshit. If you didn't have credit,
you wouldn't have the legal capacity to promise to pay.
You wouldn't even be able to swipe a credit card exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
It makes a lot of sense, but it's still as
confusing because it's so shrouded in so much secrecy and
not necessarily secrecy, but words. Listening to your course you talk,
you're very very hard on words, and I feel you
on that because I'm the same way. How do you
feel like being shrouded in all these words? Can it

(10:48):
seems like it's fraud. It's the way that they explain it,
the way that you explain it, but the way that
they word it, it seems like it's legit.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
How do you bring them to reconcile them.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
To together within the confines of the law. So like,
if it's just you, let's say you sue the credit
card company, it's just you their defense because they're not
going to show up because they don't give a fuck.
They're just going to send some barquart attorney and then
the judge right within the confines of the you as
the plaintiff, them as the defendant, and the judge within

(11:22):
that triangle. It's complicated. It's not necessarily illegal, it's borderline fraud.
They've set it up to where it's like it's very edgy.
Everything's very edgy, right, But you got to think of this.
If you sue and you push it and you push it,
and you push it and you push it and you
push it all the way to a jury, I don't

(11:45):
think you're going to have a really hard time with
the jury if you can explain the various elements and
you can, and you can place them on the table
and you can link them together in a way where
just normal ass people on the street can understand them.
Juries are not typically very happy with banks and financial

(12:07):
institutions and lawyers and stuff like that. You go on
the street and just get a clipboard and have just
a few questions on it. Question number one, what do
you think about banks? Right? Question number two, what do
you think about lawyers? You know? Question number three, what
do you think about the US justice system? Right? I

(12:27):
guarantee you if you went out and survey twelve hundred people,
eighty plus percent of people are going to have a
very negative reaction to all three of those questions. And
you got to think that works to your advantage. If
you see someone and you get through the flurry of motions,
which is the first part of a lawsuit, you get
through into discovery and you start moving chick chick chick

(12:49):
towards that jury trial. The defense is going to get
more and more nervous as you get closer and closer
to that jury trial, because the thing is is that
you know chances are, you know the jury selection process.
You know both yourself, if you're the plaintiff and the
defense both have an opportunity to say yay or nay,
not like forever, but to some degree on the jury. Right.

(13:12):
The thing is is that you know most of the
people that are going to be coming in and stepping
into that box are probably not going to be super
fond of lawyers and banks and all these different things.
So like as you get closer to that, you know,
things that may not be fraud within the triangle of

(13:33):
you and the defendant and the judge start to become
fraud as you move into the jury box. Because the
thing is that if the jury says it's fraud, it
doesn't matter what the United States Code or the code
of Federal regulations or the acts or the statutes at
large or any all that shit just gets kind of

(13:54):
like wadded up in a big ball and thrown right
out the window because if the jury says, hey, this
is fraud, fuck you, it's fraud. Story, you know, right,
So the thing is is that you know it's it's
is it is? It? Is it fraud? In the legal world,
is is not. It's not the easiest conversation in the world.

(14:15):
I think. I think ninety nine percent of everyone if
I were to talk for an hour and explain the
whole thing a zy, they'd say, of course, this is
totally fraud. But but within the confines of the legal
system itself, it's sort of like it's a little bit
more complicated. It's sort of like you would have to
explain the fact that they had a duty to explain

(14:40):
various aspects of the contract, right, and then they breached
that duty, And then you would need to explain exactly
how they breached that duty, and then you would have
to explain the exact and specific damages that occurred because
they failed to meet that duty. If you did that

(15:01):
within the confines of that triangle, that would actually function, okay, Right,
So it's just like like like the idea of a
thinking about this and having emotions about this and having
morality about this in the legal system. It's not really
it doesn't really work that way until you get into
the jury box, right, So, like you're translating the emotional

(15:28):
aspect of of all these things, and you're translating that
kind of into like a llegalese essentially, right, like like
the kind of listeners that you have and the kind
of questions that you're asking. The way you would translate
that into illegalese would be like they had the duty
to explain to me that every time I use my
credit card, it produces an unconditional promise to pay, which

(15:49):
is a negotiable instrument in accordance with UCC three s
one oh four. And then in California it's the California
Commercial Code Section three one oh four. It's the same thing.
It's just a little bit different wording, right, And say
I would say the California Commercial Code three one oh four,
Section three one oh four makes it very clear that

(16:10):
an unconditional promise to pay is essentially currency. That would
be the duty part would be, like you know, in
in nobody ever told me that that I was creating
an unconditional promise to pay. Nobody ever told me that
I was creating currency. Where on the fuck is all
this currency going right? And then that the breach would

(16:32):
be like, how am I supposed to understand We're supposed
to have a meeting of the minds, We're supposed to
have a clear communication, We're supposed to have a clear contract.
No one. I didn't know that I was creating an
unconditional promise to pay. I didn't know that all these
receipts are actually certificates of deposit. You know, a certificate
of deposit if you look it up in UCC is

(16:52):
basically like, so what a receipt is? It's so fucking crazy.
If you use a credit card, if you use cash,
isn't it doesn't count?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Right?

Speaker 4 (17:01):
If you use a credit card, I use a debit card,
it also I don't think it counts. But if you
use a credit card, I know for sure one hundred percent.
When you get a receipt, what the receipt is the
receipt if you were to translate that receipt in English,
the receipt in English is this guy just produced an

(17:21):
unconditional promise to pay. He deposited that unconditional promise to
pay on our account, and we owe him in the future.
An exchange for the unconditional promise to pay that he
just created when you use a credit card. Now, what's
crazy is a receipt is a promise to pay in reverse,

(17:44):
the receipt is a promise to pay, stating that you
created a promise to pay, and you deposited on the
account and we now have it and we owe you
the value of that promise to pay in the future. Wow,
So you actually have two promises to pay with a
credit card transaction. You create a promise to pay and
then they give you a promise to pay in pay

(18:07):
per form. And that's why everywhere you fucking go, every
time you use your credit card, they ask you, Hey,
do you want to receipt? Hey do you want to receive?
And they like freak out, they have to ask you
do you want to receipt? Do you want to receipt?
You want to receipt because the thing is, do you
want evidence proving that you've created an unconditional promise to pay?
And in that same question, in that same evidence, do

(18:29):
you want evidence proving the fact that the banking institution
that you used to transact this transaction owes you in
the future paying you back the value of what you
just created in the unconditional promise to pay. That's what
they're actually paying. That's what they're asking you, cash bag,
They're asking you do you want well, you know, the

(18:52):
receipt that's produced from a credit card transaction is technically cash.
And then when they ask you do you want to
receipt and they give you the receipt back, that's also
basically technically cash. Like wow, if you understand how like
negotiable instruments and negotiation works, you can literally write, you
can take the receipt. You could take the receipt, you

(19:13):
could write shit on it, and you can go and
deposit in your bank account. They're not gonna do it.
They're gonna think you're totally fucking crazy, insane. But if
you have a paper trail proving that you went to
the window and you were kind and you were polite,
and you said, hey, excuse me, I want to deposit
this certificate of deposit, this is actually a promisory note
proving that I created a manufacturer to promise to pay,

(19:36):
I had to deposit the value of this receipt into
my account. You know, sir, you're absolutely clinically insane. I understand.
I got it. If you have a record of all that,
you could sue the bank for failing to deposit that.
That would be an interesting conversation. So basically, what people

(19:56):
don't realize is everything is essentially currency. Everything is essentially cash.
And when when you have people walking around, you have
a lot of people talking about how it's an admiralty
law system, and I don't get into all that because
the thing is is that when you understand the mechanical functionality,
you realize that everything is currency. So you can kind

(20:20):
of think of it as everything is water. I guess
if you want to, but I don't. I don't like
to go down that path. I like to just explain
it like I just did, and then everything is currency.
A ticket on the side of the road is an
unconditional order to pay. You went too fast, you did this,
Now unconditionally I'm giving you something you need to pay

(20:40):
for an unconditional order to pay. If you look and
you can see three tosh one oh four or California
Commercial Code three one oh four, sectually three one oh four,
an unconditional order to pay is called a draft. So
it's the same thing a note or a draft. An
unconditional promise to pay, an unconditional to pay. It's all currency.

(21:01):
So like literally, I'm not even kidding when I say this, Like, bro,
like everything is currency. Everything is currency. When you get
a parking ticket and they stick the fucking pink envelope
underneath your your your window wiper on your car and
you come back and you get all fucking pissed off
and you're all angry, the thing is is that if
you really understood, they literally just left a pink envelope

(21:24):
with cash inside of it underneath your your your window wiper.
Because the fact that it's an unconditional order to pay
sixty dollars and it's got a date, and you start
looking and you see C three and you start seeing
it's got a date, it's got a pay e, it's
got to pay, or it's got all the same elements
that you see right three. It's a negotiable instrument. It

(21:47):
is legally currency. You can take the parking ticket off
of your car, take the open the pink envelope, take
the little ticket out, throw the pink end of a boy.
It's not it's not worth anything. That's that's sixty dollars,
unconditional promised order to pay. You can take that thing.
You can actually write an endorsement on it with a pen.
You can take it to your ben you can try

(22:08):
depositing it now again, they're gonna call you batshit crazy.
In fact, a lot of the girls, a lot of
the tellers and stuff, they're confused, but they're gonna try
to help you. They're gonna run around, They're gonna get
the supervisor. You know, how do we how do we do?
What the fuck is this guy talking about? MOBA? They're
gonna be so confused lost. But if you're like very
kind and like, well, I just you know this, this

(22:31):
appears to be an unconditional order to pay, which which
technically you know would be a negotiable listment, like I
would like to deposit this on my account. Is there
any way we can make that happen? And you run
a deposit slip and you're gonna you're gonna run out
of the deposit slip and oh, I'm depositing sixty dollars
of value right. Eventually they're gonna run around and get

(22:53):
a supervisor. Eventually they're probably gonna say you're batshit crazy,
and you know what are you talking about now. At
that point you could you could see the bank could
be like, look, I went in there and I was
trying to work with them, and I have an unconditional
order to pay, and they wouldn't accept it, and they
didn't dishonor it. Basically they have to dishonor it, which

(23:13):
is UCC THREEH five OHO two. They have to either
dishonor it or they have to deposit. There's really when
you start studying it, there's really no nothing in between.
And it literally says in uh UCC six O three
B that if you tried to deposit that unconditional order

(23:35):
to pay and they refuse the unconditional order to pay,
but they didn't dishonor it as per the rules of dishonor,
then technically speaking, the original deposit would still stand even
though they refused it. Right. So, so you have all
these rules where it's like as long as you show
up and you're in, you're friendly, and you're like, you

(23:57):
know what's going on, and you explain things the best
your ability, even if they reject it, it still applies
to the account, right Right. So then at that point,
now you have a sixty dollars ticket and then now
you're also going to ask for damages. On top of that,
You're like, hey, look, I spend all this time and
now I'm over here in litigation. I'm spending all this
time here. I should be compensated for my time. All

(24:19):
I wanted to do was come in and deposit an
unconditional promise order to pay, which is a draft, which
is very simple, which is totally lawful. And I was
denied doing a lawful action. Thus I should be compensated
for my time. So now you wind up a sixty
dollars ticket that you were trying to deposit into your
bank account. Now now it's blown up into this whole

(24:43):
lawsuit with damages, so that they go ahead to pay.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Now, the thing is is that that the problem with
this situation, just to be totally clear, is that no
one knows any of this information. So like you, you walk
into the bank, they think you're crazy. You walk into
the courts, they think you're crazy. Maybe they know, maybe
they don't, but they at least pretend like they like
you're crazy. Whether whether they know or whether they don't,

(25:11):
I don't know. That's that's a I haven't been able
to figure that out yet, right, so that is that
what I'm telling you is is exactly and specifically as
per the law. So it's just it really just comes
down to the fact that you think to yourself, like, oh,
it's the law. I can just go in there. They're
going to figure it out. The problem is that yes,

(25:31):
it's the law. No, they don't know anything about it,
and and and it's it's you. You're going to find out.
It's a long bridge to traverse. It's it's like to
try to get from you know. They think that a
thunder a reserve note is money. It's not money at all.
It's a negotiable instrument. To get them across that bridge

(25:54):
is difficult. Even in the I r S Manual they
have a whole section on on payments that are not accepted.
One of the items in the I r S payments
that are not accepted as a fucking promisory note, a
goddamn federal reserve note is a motherfucking promisary note. All right, yourself,
how on the fuck am I supposed to pay you? Bro?

(26:16):
I can't pay you. I literally can't pay you.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's physically about wow.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
You get all these letters from from credit card companies
and stuff. Oh, we don't accept the promisory notes, then
how on the fuck am I supposed to pay you?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Man? Licky here?

Speaker 3 (26:32):
So to see, it look like we were touching into
the ram of legalities and legal ees and things of
that nature.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Man, So do people really have to have some kind
of a law degree to even understand this?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Like?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
How did you come to understand.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Layers don't know anything about this? I've had I've had
clients of mind go out. I'm like, look, you're gonna
go online. They're gonna type in negotiable instruments specialists. This
is at the beginning. I was very naive, and I said, hey,
go go go call some negotiable instruments specialists and see
if we can get some help on some of these stuff. Right.
I had a client of mine call a bunch of

(27:05):
these guys that said they were a negotiable instrument specialists.
They didn't know any of this, not a fucking word
of it. So I abandoned that. I was like, well,
looks like that's not going to work. So the thing
is is that the big problem with all of this
is absolutely no one, including the judges, I just can't tell.

(27:27):
I can't tell they're so freaking I can't tell if
the judges know or not. Right, But everybody else besides judges,
and I mean police attorneys, prosecutors, DOJ attorneys. I got
this dog attorney. I'm pursuing the SBA, the Small Business Administration,

(27:48):
and I've talked to this dog attorney on the phone,
and I can tell, I can tell, I can tell
you right now. He has no clue, right, So, you know,
he has no clue about citizenship, he has no clue aboutality,
has no clue about negotiable instruments, he has no clue
about anything. Right. So, but the thing is that the
judges are the one area where I just can't tell
because I've dealt with a lot of judges that have

(28:11):
been in the chair for like twenty plus years. But
the problem is is that I've never really had they
just throw my shit out. They don't say anything. It's
like super quiet, hush hush, just get them out of
here kind of a thing. So I've never had hearings,
I've never had any real information. I've had very little feedback.
So it's tough for me to totally realize do the

(28:32):
judges know or not? But besides them, everybody else from
that point all the way down doesn't have a fucking clue.
The bankers don't know. The senior bankers don't know. I've
had executive, top tier bankers on the phone twenty eight
years plus, no clue. They don't even know the definition
of a negotiable instrument. I've had a billionaires I've talked

(28:54):
to don't know the definition of a negotiable instrument. They
don't even know what a federal reserve note is. So
you're living in this world where, uh, you know, finances
and money is such a fucking issue. Well, no wonder.
I mean even billionaires don't know what it is. You
think Elon Musk knows what a fucking negotiable instrument is?

(29:18):
He has no I would imagine he has no idea.
I don't think Trump has a clue. If you if
you knew what a negotiable instrument was, you know, I
think Trump's a good guy. I think he would probably
do something to try to make some adjustments. If you
know what what a negotiable instrument is, it's it's very
very fascinating and easy to to change things and make

(29:41):
adjustments and and everything else. So so it's it's it's
one of those things where the real situation is that
you have two different things. You have what everyone thinks
the law is, and then you have what the actual
law is, which are two very very different things. And
then when you find out that the law is completely

(30:03):
different from what you ever thought it was, now you're
like trying to share that information with other people, and
like everyone just thinks you're fucking batshit crazy. And that's basically, uh,
the life that you're now gonna live once you go
down these rabbit holes, that is, I promise you are
going to wake up. You're waking up in this world
and you're looking around and you're and you're and you're

(30:25):
and you're just gonna realize that no no one has
any idea but it Billionaires, trillionaires, quadrillionaires. Uh. Elon musk
uh uh uh. Jeff Bezo doesn't name anybody who want
Tyler Pez, name anybody you want. They they don't have
a clue. Uh. None of these people have a clue.
And it's not it doesn't make them bad, it doesn't
make them wrong. It's just it's just that if you

(30:48):
if you want to live in a world where there's
the law and people follow the law. You're gonna realize
you're gonna wake up broke real soon. You're gonna real
you're gonna have to share what the law is and
help other people understand it. And it's not going to
happen overnight because you're you're basically like the crazy person

(31:11):
at that point.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Mm hm definitely, definitely And that's it.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, Now you touched on two very important topics right there.
You know what I'm saying, One being uh, Trump being
in the White House that he doesn't really know anything
about this. And also you have to help each individual
pursose person. So I want to bring in something bold,
which is your email that was calling out the trust
the planned mindset.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Now you labeled it.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
As blasphemous man and laid out with this mentality that
enables it that shit. Could you expand a little bit
more on what you think has caused so many freedom
minded people that actually fall into this trap and how
could that complacency iffects the fight for individual sovereignty.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
I kind of pissed when I sent that email. I
sent some kind of I send some funny emails that
send some goofy A lot of the email thats and
they're kind of goofy and funny, as you know, but
that one was kind of a pissed off email. Yeah. So, uh,
you know, I have a lot of people who are
who are big Trump supporters, and I'm not anti Trump
at all, right, I just think that. I mean, boy,

(32:13):
I'll tell you right now, if I had to choose
between Biden and Trump, I'd happily choose Trump. Right. I
can't vote. I can't. I could technically if I wanted
to go through a bunch of hyper Really, the simple
fact is I really shouldn't. Uh, that's really the real
fact of the matter. So I don't. But the thing
is is that the the Q and on or q

(32:34):
or people have told me, oh, q Andon, it's this
other thing. You don't understand it. Fine, I don't understand
any of it, and I'll admit that right now, right.
But the thing is this, I watch a lot of
really great people get involved in all of that stuff,
which may or may not be good or bad or whatever.
Maybe it's just my own perception, and they get into
this whole trust the plan attitude where it's like, you know,

(32:56):
Trump's got it all figured out, and you don't need
to do anything, and you can just sit at home
and drink your beers and eat your popcorn and enjoy
the show. And God, that pisses me off, because the
thing is is that, you know, when you start to
really understand what's going on, you start to understand negotiable instruments,
You start to understand nationality and Title eight and the

(33:17):
definition of the word person and how nationality and the
word person and citizenship and passports really work, and you
start to understand, like you know, you you can create
a private trust with no money, and you can take
all all the cash and all your cars and everything,

(33:38):
and you can start listing the trust as the registered
owner of all your cars, and you can open up
bank accounts under your trust, and you can get an
EI in numbers from the I R S for your
trust and bang, you're instantaneously completely tax free for the
rest of your fucking life. Right. It's so my blowingly easy. Right.

(34:02):
And the thing is is, it's like, it's not trust
the plan, it's not sit there and do fucking nothing.
It's like when you when you understand some of this information,
all you have to do is just share it. All
you have to do is just tell you don't need
to like jam it down people's thruw. Let me tell
you about citizenship. You know, it's just like but if
you if you just hear someone talking about how they

(34:24):
can't pay their tax bill, you know, you hear about
somebody who's having a citizenship issue. You hear about somebody
who's pissed off because they think that all of our
tax payer money is going to Ukraine, which it's not.
That's all completely manufactured in the media. Uh, all of
our tax money goes to uh that goes to the irs,
goes to the International Monetary Fund. It's actually sphered out
of the country, and it has absolutely nothing to do

(34:47):
with Congress. They have absolutely no control over any of
that money. So you think Congress is making these decisions
about the tax money coming into this like pool, and
then now Congress is this tax That's not how it
works at all. That's all total media illusion. Your money
goes to the Internal Revenue Service, and then from the

(35:08):
Internal Revenue Service it goes to the International Monetary Fund,
which is siphoned out of the country. God knows where
it goes. But it has nothing to do with anything
that you think the government is allowed to print all
of the US Treasury bonds that it wants, and then
it can exchange those US Treasury bonds for Federal Reserve
notes at what's called the Federal Reserve Discount Window, which

(35:30):
you can type right into the Internet Federal Reserve Discount Window. Boom,
it'll pop right up. That's where they go. They have
what's called fed wire. You can type that into Google.
Fed wire is the actual computer program that they use
to exchange the US Treasury notes for Federal Reserve notes.
So the government, if it wants to print fifteen trillion

(35:51):
or twenty trillion or twenty two trillion, it can do
whatever it wants. It doesn't need your tax money. It
doesn't need your sales tax, it doesn't need your federal
income tax, it doesn't need your state tax. Same thing
with state government. They don't need your state tax, they
don't need your sales tax. All of it is completely
fucking irrelevant. So the thing is that when you start
to realize how all this works, then you've got to

(36:13):
realize none of its money. It's all unconditional promises to pay.
All federal reservanists are all unconditional promises to pay so
so then it goes to this whole other level of
like what the fuck am I doing? What the fuck
is all this? And like why? Like this is it?
It's literally just everything is a fucking illusion. Your money

(36:33):
is not going for taxes, Your tax money isn't going
toward the country, Your tax money is not going to
fucking Ukraine. And it's not even money, it's actually negotiable instruments.
It's actually unconditional promises to pay all based off of
your fucking credit. So so you know, it just gets
to a point where you're just like, what the fuck
is going on? Yeah, And the thing is that when

(36:55):
you when you start to have that realization of what
the fuck is going on and you start to go
down those rabbit holes to learn what the fuck is
going on, then you learn what the fuck is going on.
As far as I'm concerned. Now, all you're gonna do
is just share it with people, right, That's that's it, bro,
Because I'm telling you right now, if you if you

(37:16):
if you go down the rabbit hole and you realize, well,
hall a second, a federal reserve note is an unconditional
promise to pay. But wait a second, a fucking credit
card transaction is almoso, an unconditional promise to pay so
so so so, so how does that work? And then
you go down that rabbit hole and you realize that
an unconditional promise to pay with a credit card, you
can actually go to the Federal Reserve Discount window via

(37:37):
fed wire and you can swap the value of the
unconditional promise to pay that you created for Federal Reserve notes.
So like wow, Then you start going down that rabbit
hole and then you're like, well, how the fuck do
I do that? And then you start to realize that
if you open up a federal credit union, which you
only need seven natural persons to do it, you're gonna

(37:58):
sign what's called an OC ten agreement, an operating circular ten.
You can type into the internet OC hyphen ten agreement
and it'll pop up. It'll say a Federal Reserve bank,
and you can download the OC ten agreement. You can
read it. That's the agreement that you sign to get
access to the Federal Reserve discount window. You could you

(38:20):
could you could get an OC ten agreement sign you
can start issuing your own fucking loans, you know. So wow,
If that's where we're going this year with all this right. So,
if let's say, for example, I went and signed an
OC ten agreement, I could give you a piece of paper,
and that piece of paper is a mortgage and it
says I promise to pay blah blah blah, I'm out

(38:42):
for this property plus interest blah blah blah. I don't
give a fuck. I'll put it off the internet. I
don't care. You sign that fucking thing and you hand
it to me. I now have in my possession a valuable,
unconditional promise to pay. It's a security, it's a promistory note.
Now I can turn around and I can endorse that
promisory note in a particular way which I go into

(39:03):
in all my material, and I can actually swap that
that unconditional promise to pay using fedwire at the Federal
Reserve discount window. That's how they that's how they fund
all the loans. So so you you become what's called
the maker or issuer of the promisory note. You sign

(39:24):
the promissory note, and you don't put any specific exchange
information on the note. You give them note. They take
the note and they go to fedwire and they type
in their information. I don't really know exactly how the
program looks, how it functions, but I kind of do
not fully. And they and they and they collateralize. They

(39:46):
turn that original promisory note into what's called the collateral security.
And the process is how this works is very clear.
It's in twelve Usc. Four one two, twelve Usc. Four
one two. They they swap that the promissory note for
another kind of promissory note, which happens to be called
the fur reserve note, which is what's in your wallet.

(40:07):
Swap take that bag, and they bring you back that bag.
But the thing is that they can scoop a bunch
of money out of it. First. They can because the
thing is the value of the swap is the value
of the maturity value of the loan. So if you
promise to pay three hundred and sixty thousand for a

(40:28):
mortgage at four percent interest over thirty years, when they
go to the window, the value of the note is
the full maturity note of the full four percent at
thirty years. Wow. So when they swap that at the
fur reserve discount window and they get the bag, it's
like six hundred grand in the bag. So they dig

(40:49):
out the two hundred and forty thousand, and they stick
it in their pockets and then they give you the
three hundred and sixty thousand. Plus you're on the fucking
hook another three hundred thousand, right back to the motherfuckers.
And it's all based on who's credit, who's credit, who's credit? Who? Oh,

(41:11):
it's the bank's credit. They're not the one who promised
to pay. How on the fuck do they have credit?
Whoever's promising to pay is the one who has the credit?
Who promised to pay? Was it the bank? Well no, actually, Brandon,
the bank didn't promise to pay. Okay, so whose credit
is it?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Exactly gotta be mine.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
It's your fucking.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
So we just using it wrong.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
You watch the matrix and you see all these fucking pods,
and that these bodies are in pawn, in possession to
be used as energy production devices for god knows what, literally,
not even fucking joking. That is the world we live in.
You you are hooked up to this fucking machine and

(41:56):
you don't realize that you're just giving all this tremendous
energy to the machine and the machine is just totally
fucking you, and you just don't understand it right, And
when you start to understand it and you start to
really understand how this all work, is your credit. You're
the one bringing the credit to the table. You're the
one promising to pay. You're the one creating the currency.

(42:17):
You're the one funding the loan. You know, when I
assue all these different organizations, I don't say it's a
loan because I say in all my documentation, I'm like,
loan is all fraud, It's all fraudulent terminology. What is
actually occurring. It's a currency exchange, and it's like it's
like if you went to Italy and you have French

(42:38):
francs and you need to convert French francs to Italian
whatever the fuck it is. You're the one who created
or the technical term, the legal term is maker or issuer.
You're the one who is the maker slash issuer of
the original unconditional promise to pay, which is a security,
which is a negotiable instrument. So when you when you

(43:01):
release that instrument and you you basically give it to
them and they use that instrument to fund the loan.
Who funded the loan?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I just funded it.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
You funded it. You're hiring, you're hiring a currency exchange
to assist you, who is the creator of the currency,
to convert said currency from one type to another type.
And the only reason why you even need to convert
the currency from one type to another type is because

(43:33):
the guy down the street doesn't realize that he can. Actually,
he's actually legally obligated. If you if you took if
someone had to do a mortgage and you promise to pay,
and you signed it, and you grabbed the documents, you said,
fuck this, I'm leaving, and you took the documents with you,
do you realize that the actual unconditional promise to pay

(43:54):
the mortgage is like a gigantic five hundred and sixty
thousand dollars No, it's like having a five hundred and
sixty thousand dollars feder A reserve note, and you can
go down to the coffee shop and you can buy
a coffee, and you can hand them the mortgage docs
and you can say, I've overpaid by five hundred and

(44:15):
fifty nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety five dollars, please
give me a return, and they go, you're fucking crazy,
you're badshitting saying, get the fuck out of here you
can sue them again. This is this is like craziness.
This is crazy talk, right. The problem is that a
lot of times the judges just throw all this shit
out because I've tried a lot of this stuff and
they just threw everything out. But the thing is is

(44:36):
that technically speaking, in the law, that's totally workable. Technically speaking,
you can do that. Technically speaking, they're supposed to give
you a receipt. Technically speaking, they're supposed to give you
a five hundred and ninety nine hundred and fifty fifty
nine five nine dollars back. Technically, all these things are true.

(45:00):
But then you get in there and they just ignore
the law, They ignore the rules, they ignore everything because
the judges are thinking, if I do this, the entire
American economy explodes and the whole country bursts into flames
economically and everything goes as ship and my whole country
goes on the tubes, uh, instantaneously. So what do they do?

(45:22):
They dismiss your ship and they don't say a fucking word,
They say nothing, They give you no one. Oh no,
he's crazy, he's crazy, Get him out of here, right,
So you dis.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Like a what do they call it when they when
they make a ruling on the case, they're supposed to
tell you why they ruled that way.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Because I've had one judge explain why. Uh. In all
of my cases, I've had only one judge, Susan Richards.
I've had only one judge who happened to be a
federal judge, a very senior partially retired. UH judge has

(46:01):
been the only person who's ever delineated and explained. And
that was actually my very very first case, which frankly
was was pretty sloppy with my first case ever, right,
so so I tightened things up a lot after that
first case, and and the first case was the only
one we've ever had where the judge actually gave an

(46:22):
explanation as to anything. Okay, that's the issue. I thought.
I thought, Hey, this is gonna be a slam dunk.
I got the law. It's gonna be all good. They're
gonna follow the law. I was. I was dead wrong.
So you know, it just is what it is. I'm
trying to figure all that out now and change course

(46:44):
and whatever. I thought. You know, at least we could
have a conversation about the law. That was also that
was also uh, optimistic. That's that wasn't gonna happen. So yeah,
in its.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
SD on a duty to ask the blame. That's the
whole job is is to interpret and explaying the law.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
So I'm trying to figure out how to force the
conversation and force these things. And I'm going to sue
if I have to sue judges in the Court of
Federal Claims, which is where you sue judges and stuff.
If I have to go in that direction, We're going
to go in that direction. And then state judges. So
people talk a lot about this whole like oaths of

(47:28):
office and you can like bang their bonds. You can
only do that with a state judge. You can't do
that with a federal judge because a federal judge has
like special immunity. They don't even have bonds as far
as I know. So so with a federal judge, you
would go and you would sue the federal judge in
a different court called the Court of Federal Claims. And

(47:49):
then if you have a state judge, you can file
a not a Foyer request, but the state version of
a foy of request to pull their oath of office,
and then you can bang their bond for a state.
Like we're trying to figure all this out, Like, okay,
so federal we can't bang their bond, but we can
go to the Court of Federal Claims. How does that work?

(48:11):
How do we file a case in the Quarter of
refeerical and then the state court? How do we get
their bond, their their oath of office? And then once
we get it, which can be difficult sometimes they like
to really make it hard sometimes because they're fucking assholes.
And then how once we get it, how do we
bang that bond. So we're trying to we're trying to
figure all these things out, and like it's it's just

(48:32):
very noisy, like everyone's talking about all this shit, but
no one's doing it. So it's just a bunch of
bullshit everywhere. And that's and that's the issue. If you
go around and start listening to everybody. I'm not saying
I got all the answers. I'm just saying if if
you start listening to everybody and their mothers, you're going
to be very confused because this guy says this, but
none of them are doing anything. Okay, Well, hey, you

(48:52):
know you say bang their bond. You know where's your case?
Can I look up your your docket? Oh? You know,
you know, I don't. I never found that. Well, how
the fuck do you know? How? So? So, so what
I'm trying to do is I'm trying to I'm trying
to just figure it out, study the thing, and then

(49:14):
do it, and then experiment with it, and and and
like just slowly, like step by step, and and and
and I personally don't think there's a whole lot of
people or maybe even anybody doing that, and and so
that's what that's why people have gravitated towards my platform
so much. Because all my lawsuits, as much as I

(49:34):
possibly can, they're all public. They're all available for download
for free. You don't even need a Pacer account. Pacer
is like if you wanted to get into all the
different docks and all the different cases and stuff. There's
something called Recap. So so if you have a recap
browser extension installed in your Chrome, every time you download
something from Pacer, which is the actual government website, it

(49:55):
gets duplicated into RECAP And it's all totally free. You
need no lug and you need nothing. You can just
you can just go to recap type in a case
name and then bang, click on a document and then boom,
it'll just pop up pdf instantaneously. No log in, no nothing,
no credentials, no no money. I mean it's literally the
Free Law Project is the name of it, right, and

(50:17):
it's it's an a off it specifically, like the Free
Law Project is like, it's bullshit that someone needs to
create a fucking log in and pay ten cents a
page to get fucking documents about court cases. It should
be public and it should be free. That's the way
that the Free Law Project.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Thinks, right, for a digital page that's correct, tangible.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Wall it's well, that's a whole other discussion. But the
thing is that the Free Law Project is like, that's bullshit.
It should be free. We're creating a free platform. It's
called recap, which is just pays or spell backwards fuck you,
you know it's it's not it's not really fuck you,
But it's when you start to read the information about
the Free Law Project, it's like they they they're they're

(51:01):
a nonprofit organization that thinks that this is ridiculous basically, right.
So so I was like, well, fuck yeah, cool, recap
let's go. So so I have the Recap thing installed
in my browser, and whenever I download any documents, it goes,
it goes into RECAP. So from that point forward, it's
available for free with no download, no money, forever, well

(51:21):
as long as recap continues to exist. Right. So the
thing is is that you know you you can follow
all my work. I try so hard, try so hard
to make everything available on RECAP. I teach people how
to access Pacer, so even if it's not a recap,
you can get into Pacer and you can still get
it for tend. It's a page. We I have a

(51:41):
free contract kilor corpse. I teach about negotiable instruments. I
teach about UH, taxation, how to be tax free forever.
It's super easy. Uh. The biggest barrier to a lot
of this stuff is just it's so unbelievable that it
could even possibly be true. That's that's the biggest. The
biggest barrier is just like, oh my god, this can't
be true. There's no way, Like that's if you can

(52:04):
get over that, if you can be like, well fuck,
I don't know, but I'll take a look. If you
could even get to that point, then you'll be fine.
But if you're just like, fuck, this can't be true.
This guy's fucking crazy. There's no way this could be
like this. There's no way this could be easy. Then
then you're not gonna be able to access this information.
No matter how available I make it for you, it's

(52:25):
not gonna make any fucking difference because the thing is
you're gonna go it can't be is this crazy? Uh?
If you know, one of the things people always say, oh,
if it was this way, everybody be doing it. It
took me three years to figure all this shit out
and organize it. So the thing is that people didn't
know it, you know, and and and nowadays every fucking
day it seems like there's a new fucking guru. Uh,

(52:47):
you know, which is great. I love that. I think
that's great. I'm not saying that, I think it's fantastic. Right.
So the thing is that, you know, people learn and
then they turn around they teach, right, and then more
people learn, and then they turn around and now they're teaching,
and then more people learn, and then they turn around
and then now they're teaching. And I think that's that's

(53:07):
what's going on right now in a crazy big way.
And the thing is that oh everybody knew about this,
everybody'd be doing it. Well, you know, you can say
that about the Internet. I'm from Indiana, Midwest. When the
Internet first came out, everyone thought it was horseshit. Same
thing with cell phones when cell phone, Oh fucking I'm
not gonna you mean to tell me someone can fucking
call me and the goddamn thing's gonna ring in my

(53:27):
pocket when I'm walking around trying to just live my life,
like fuck that. You know, Like back in the day,
in two thousand and one, cell phones and Internet, a
lot of people thought that shit was stupid and crazy,
Like what the fuck? People thought the Internet was fucking stupid,
you know. So the thing is, it's the same thing.
It's like, you know, it took twenty years, not twenty years.

(53:49):
It took it took twelve years for the Internet to
like fully fully fully into into the society, right, So
you know, it took it took ten or so years
for cell phones to fully fully integrate into the society.
They started in the nineties and it wasn't until the
two thousands when it was like, oh, I's got.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
One, you know, everybody go Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
So ten years even for Internet and cell phones, so
people think that, you know, legal shit's going to be
overnight there.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I mean, technically we have over what a one hundred
and forty years, one hundred and sixty years, almost one
hundred and sixty years that we actually have an amendment
that hasn't been ratified.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Properly yet, fourteen Amendment.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
It's hard to get people to understand that it's not constitutional.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Why do you think it's hard for people to understand that, Well.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
The biggest problem is that everyone's running around having arguments
or conversations like, for example, Trump just signed this whole
thing about citizenship, birthright, citizenship. Right, Well, let's just stop,
stop the train for a minute. You you know nothing

(55:00):
about birthright, You know nothing about citizenship. You know nothing
about the fourteenth Amendment, and you know nothing about why
I was there or why it was passed. And you
know nothing about what the country's citizenship or nationality was
before that. You don't even know the fact that the
term nationality and citizenship are two totally different subjects. You
don't even know that Title eight, which is all about

(55:22):
all of this information, has nothing to do with citizenship.
It's called nationality and aliens. And you have to click
and click and click and go deeper and deeper and
deeper and deeper, and then bang, all of a sudden,
there's citizenship. So you got to realize nationalities way up
here and citizenships way down here, and no one knows
any of this information. So everyone's running around argue, oh,

(55:45):
citizenship and and birthright citizens You don't know what citizenship is,
you don't know what birthright is, you don't know what
birth is. You don't even know who the fuck you are.
Because you go into Title eight and you look at
the definition of the word person eight USC when one
zero one Subsection B six the definition of the word
person is an individual or an organization.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
Hmmm, oh, so you mean to tell me that an
organization has nationality, an organization has birth So so wait
a second, So who's on the passport?

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Is that an individual or is it an organization? And
you go, oh, it's an individual? And I go, okay,
what's the definition of the word individual? And you get
the fucking stare, bro, you get the fucking stair. The
problem is it's not even defined. It's not even defined.
And let me tell you everything is defined. So you go, so,

(56:44):
so you find this word individual and there's no definition
for it. There's a fucking reason for it. Bro, there's
a fucking reason why that word is not defined. There's
a fucking reason for it. And the reason why is
because they want you to go on this fucking presumption, Oh,
I know what an individual is. Oh, I know. And

(57:04):
they're gonna say, Oh, you're smart, dude, you know what
individual is. Of course, I'm a smart dude. I know
what individual is. You you have no fucking idea. And
it takes me fifteen minutes to go down the whole
line of explaining what that word means that if you
want me to make it really, really fucking simple, the
word individual means business, if you are gonna make it,
and I can go on a fifteen minute explanation and

(57:25):
go down the whole fucking timeline of everything. And but
just to keep it really fucking simple, the definition of
the word person a US one one zero one, subsection
B six. It means a business or an organization. There,
you know, and I know that that might leave some
people in some oh how could that be? And you

(57:46):
should be in a how can that be? Because now
all of a sudden you're gonna start asking fucking questions.
The most dangerous motherfucker walking the earth is the guy
asking questions. Okay, yep. So the thing is is that
the definition of the word person and what's on your
fucking passport is a business or an organization. So you
got to ask yourself, well, which one is it? You

(58:07):
tell me, brother, is it a business or an organization?
You think an individual means you as a man or whatever.
That ain't in at all because you look at the
Commerce clause in the Constitution, the federal government only has
jurisdiction over commercial It goes even deeper. It's got to
be interstate commerce. So even if it's within a single state,

(58:29):
they still don't have jurisdiction. Right, So that's where this
whole business commerce, motor vehicle. You know, some of your
people made me know about that. That's where all this
comes from. It comes from the Commerce clause. Commerce clause
says the federal government only has jurisdiction or or full
unmitigated jurisdiction over interstate commerce. So what did they do.

(58:50):
They gave you a business. When they process your birth certificate,
they get part of the processing of their certificate. They
open a business for you, right right, identification number of
that business. Guess what It's called social security social Security number. Right.
So this is that when you when you fill out
your little passport and you type, you type all the

(59:12):
stuff in and you type in your social Security number,
you're getting a passport on behalf of a person, an individual,
or an organization. You think you are the individual or
the organization. That's not true at all. You're the agent
on behalf of the individual organization. And what's printed your
passport is basically has two persons on it. One people.

(59:35):
One person. One is the individual or the organization, and
then it's also got a photo of you. So what
the fuck do you have to do with this thing?
You're the agent on behalf of the individual organization. And
then you got to think organization is literally defined in
Title eight. So you look up eight USC one one
zero one, Subsection B six, and you have the definition

(59:57):
of the word person, an individual, or an organization and
you go like, huh, I wonder what the definition of
organization is. Now that's that is some smart motherfuckers. If
you had that thought during this, you're a smart motherfucker. Right.
You go down to eight USC one one zero one,
Subsection A twenty eight and it has the definition of
the word organization, and I can read that for you

(01:00:17):
right now. The term organization means, but is not limited to,
an organization, corporation, company, partnership, association, trust, foundation, or fund,
and includes a group of persons whether or not incorporated,
permanently or temporarily, associated together with joint action on any

(01:00:40):
subject or subjects. So basically, what does organization mean? It
means fucking literally everything and anything anywhere ever, basically, right.
So then you think yourself, okay, so how does someone
become a legal citizen or whatever of the United States?
Open up a business of your name in all capital letters,
the fucking birthday of whenever you open and the goddamn

(01:01:00):
thing is the fucking birthday. And then you go to
the fucking I R S and fill out an SS
four or S S five, whatever the fuck it is
to get an EI N number. The E I N
number becomes a Social Security number.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
And you start using that instead of your Social Security number.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
And then you go you go to the passport office
and you type in a name of the person you're
applying for the passport for all caps B, R, A
and D O and Social Security number. I'll put the
goddamn businesses fucking EI N number in there, and then
they'll you know who knows, I've yet to see and
you won't even test this. But that's say they said,
they send it back to you. Oh well this is

(01:01:39):
you know, I can't give you a passport on this.
You sue the Department of State and you say eight
USC one one zero one, Subsection B six states that
a person is defined as an individual or an organization.
Mm hmm. An organization legally can get a fucking passport.
Why the fuck are you denying a passport for a

(01:01:59):
person who are really trying to get one?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Wow, that's how you put that together. And all this
was as constructed based off of the fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
It's all the fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
The fourteenth Amendment is what gave human rights to legal fictions.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
That makes sense that you hear the word human being.
A being is the legal fiction of which has been
given human rights through the fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Human being. There's literal fucking court cases where they say
that that corporate fictions are basically human beings. Not even kidding,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
That just makes sense, though, I mean, they didn't consider
black people to be people, so they would consider them
to be fictional persons.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
That's correct. Well, I don't know exact correlation, but yes,
it's the same. That is that that that that makes
perfect sense to me. If that was what it was,
it makes perfect sense to me because the thing is that,
you know the fourteenth Amendment. So you have the dread
Scott decision in the in the in the eighteen fifties,
which is where you had the dread Scott is where
you had the slave and he was trying to figure

(01:03:14):
out and they couldn't figure it out, and they said,
he's not a citizen. He's not even a basically not
even a human at that point, right and then right
around that same time, the definition of the word person
was changed. Right around that same time. Then, you know,
fifteen years later, then you have the fourteenth Amendment, and
then you have the Slaughterhouse cases and everything, where they said, basically,
like you know, in order to give all the released

(01:03:35):
slaves who don't have a citizenship, in order to give
them citizenship, we're going to basically they don't say this directly,
but this is what it wound up being. We're going
to make them employees. The national government, and it's going
to be a special category of citizenship that doesn't have rights,

(01:03:58):
it has privileged and immunities, and we're gonna call it
the federal US citizen category. And they what they did
is they moved all those freshly released slaves into that category.
And they probably did that as sort of like a

(01:04:19):
middle ground because they're they're thinking in their heads like
the South didn't want the release slaves to have all
the rights of a state. So you gotta think, you
gotta put yourself in that time period. That's why I
like to read the cases because it puts you into like,
god damn, these fucking judges were really dealing with mysterious shit.
You gotta think, like like the South, if you give

(01:04:42):
the release slaves all all the they call them negroes
literally right in the goddamn fucking slaughterhouse cases, you give
them all the rights of a state citizen, and now
the South are going to be riding up on horses
to murder you and your family. Who knows. Who knows
what was going on in that time period, right, So
what did they do? I assume this is why they
did it. They said, Hey, don't worry we're going to

(01:05:04):
give them a special category. It's going to have very
little rights, in fact, no rights. It's going to have
privileges and immunities. They're going to have almost nothing that
you guys have, but at least they're going to be
able to be here legally without us having to kick
them out. Basically, that was basically what the slaughterhouse cases were, right,
and then fast forward one hundred and fifty years and

(01:05:27):
now they've tricked everyone into signing freely that they're not
a state citizen with rights, but they're actually a US
citizen with privileges and immunities. So basically the whole country
now is basically released black slaves from after the Civil War,

(01:05:48):
and nobody has any human rights according to the Bill
of Rights and the Constitution. Everyone has just privileges immunities,
which is why you have to business license to open
up a goddamn barbershop, you got to have a fucking
permanent to carry a gun, you got to have a
driver's license to drive a car, because if you're a
US citizen which means released slave post Civil War, you

(01:06:12):
don't have the right to have a car. You don't
have the right to own anything. You don't have the right.
You have privileges and immunities that can only be accessed
by sucking the cock of the national government.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Yes, I love how you put that, man, And it
basic that if they use the fourteenth Amendment to frame
it as a cornerstone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
For civil rights, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
And you think about it, man, whenever you think about
the Declaration of Independence, it starts off saying that every
man and woman is this is created equal. And then
the Constitution is framed to protect our an inalienable excuse me,
inealenable human rights. But then you have to give us
or grant us civil rights. It just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Isn't even worse? Think about this. You're not granted shit.
You pay for it, right. That's where it hurts. That's
where it hurts. It's I'm not just sucking dick. I'm
paying to suck cock. Like like. I like to say
it that way because it gets people thinking and it
gets people a little irritated. I'm not anti government. I

(01:07:20):
don't want to see capitol buildings on fire, but I
like to say things that that really get the gears turning. Okay, now,
the thing is the government. I don't really believe the
government even understands any of this information. It's just a
bunch of people on computer screens clicking fucking bullshit d
m V people whatever. But like the real reality is

(01:07:42):
you're you're paying to suck dick and and and the
thing is that the guy across the table from you,
who's who's who's who's taking your your your federal reserve
notes in order to like allow you to suck the
dick of the government. They don't really know. That's what's
going on. So the thing is that I don't say
this to try to like piss people off, like I'm
going to burn the government buildings. That's not the point.

(01:08:03):
The point is, like I said before, the problem is
nobody knows any of this. And nobody over there, over here,
over here, over here, nobody knows any of this. That's
the issue, Right, So you say to yourself, Oh, I'm pissed.
I'm not paying to suck deck anymore. Fuck them. They
knew all about this all this time. I promise you

(01:08:23):
You've never probably ever dealt with, or spoke to or
interacted with somebody who knew any of this at all.
So it comes down to intent. You know, in law.
Intent is a difference between you know, manslaughter and murder.
Manslaughter you know, you go away for a few years,
murder bye bye. Right, So intent it's the same thing here, right, Like,

(01:08:45):
you've never been in front of somebody who had the
intent to have you suck them off, you paid them
to suck them off. Okay, it's just this big, convoluted,
fucking cloud of horseshit, and it's just everybody confused and
nobody knows what's going on, and unless maybe you had
a lawyer or something. I feel like if you had

(01:09:08):
a lawyer, maybe you were in a situation where the
other person actually knew kind of maybe a little bit
was going on, and they kind of fucked you over.
Besides like lawyers getting involved, I feel like the chances
that anyone hit any clue about any of this is
like almost zero. So you can sit here and you
can get all fucking super pissed off and you can

(01:09:30):
totally freak out and load your guns and paint your face.
But I'm telling you I did that at the very
beginning of all this, and I'm telling you I've talked
to a lot of fucking people and it's just the
problem is just absolutely no one knows any of this information.
That's the issue. And if you just take a deep breath,
understand some things, clean your own shit up, and then

(01:09:50):
just start sharing the information, It's it's literally that simple.
We can have a new America. You don't need to
go out and paint your face and burn down buildings
and strap C four to your chest. All this craziness.
I'm telling you, it's it's just gonna hurt things. You know.
The way, the way to handle the situation is just
set yourself up, clean your shit up, live a great life,

(01:10:11):
be a great example, get everything that you want, be
a beacon of hope and and and understanding for yourself
and the people around you, and then just share the information.
Help other people understand, clear up the definitions of words,
educate others, give them access to the information. I'm telling you,
it's it's a sure fire, one hundred percent guaranteed success program.

(01:10:33):
I promise you. Getting mad and strapping grenades to your chest,
I promise you, uh, you're not gonna win. It's it's
a it's a it's a guaranteed lose. Go into the courtroom,
start screaming and threatening the bailiff, and the and the
and the judge. I guarantee you guaranteed lose. On the
side of the road. You're you're you're threatening the police officer.

(01:10:55):
Blah blah blah. I guarantee you guaranteed lose. Guaranteed you
always lose. They will make an example of you. And
I'm sorry, uh, from a lot of the things that
you said at the beginning of this this uh, this
this conversation, especially if you're a black man, you start
to say one little fucking thing and it's just like
it's like, you know, I hate to say it. I

(01:11:18):
didn't think it was true at first. Actually I thought
that was kind of untrue. And then I started interviewing police,
and I started hearing more and more reports and and
I'm not a liberal by any means, uh, but but
it is an actual issue. It is a problem, uh
And and it probably does stem back to a lot
of them they see at the fourteenth Amendment, and you know,

(01:11:42):
all these different things. So so you know, it's it's
it's shitty, it's sucky, and and we can be mad
about it. But I'm telling you right now, if you
if you get mad about it and you act on
that anger, it's just gonna make thing the worse. I
promise you, I promise you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Oh yeah, I already know, man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
I got stories I could tell you from when I
start to study in this that I wasn't decent. I
wasn't even this deep into it. When I started learning
some of the stuff that I wanted to be militant.
That was the first. My first action was to be militant.
It's time to take up arms and time. I would
have probably been one of them guys that that's a
few about five ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
The Stone Mountain incident that happened out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
There where people got up arms and had to stand
off with the police at Stone Mountain, it would have
been probably me out there, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
But I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
I thank god that I had children put it because
it put myself in a different perspective and it gave
me a new mission. And that mission is to uplift
falling humanity. We can't uplift falling humanity from a jail cell.
You cannot uplift falling humanity from a graveyard. The only
way you can uplift them is just like you said, man,

(01:12:48):
you got to share this stuff. What you learn, teach
each one, teach one, and you made it clear that
ain't no one coming to save us. So we have
to take personal responsibility to fight back. For someone that's
right now who feels like this is a lot of
information and this is like whoa, you just woke me up.
You just blew my mind, Like, how do you explain
the first step that to help them take back their

(01:13:11):
rights and get rid of these privileges? What would be
that first step in doing that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
The fourteenth Amendment offers you a type of citizenship. Everyone
in all America believes that that is the only type
of citizenship available to you. The reason why that is
because every single form and every single IRS form, the passport,

(01:13:43):
everything only has an I nine form all these it
only has two different types of classes of citizenship. You
have the US citizen and then you have the non
citizen national of the United States. So is the two
different categories right? So you you start to do a
lot of research, you start to go into a historical timeline.

(01:14:06):
So you got to go all the way back to
like eighteen fifty three fifty four, So around that same
time pier As dread Scott same time. Around that same time,
perier As dread Scott decision. Prior to that point, passports
were issued on the federal level, which means by the

(01:14:28):
federal government, the national government, but they were also issued
by the individual states, so you could actually get a
California passport. And then in like eighteen fifty three or
fifty four or fifty five, right around the dread Scott decision,
they changed that and they passed a law that says
that only the US Department of State can issue passports. Right,

(01:14:52):
So that was fine up until eighteen seventy one, and
then in eighteen seventy one when they released the fourteenth Amendment.
I've heard reports of one hundred years ago, when you
fill out your passport information, you could literally select if
you were a US citizen or a state citizen. They
had little fucking boxes. I'm not a kidding, like a
hundred years ago. And I've found a bunch of old

(01:15:15):
passport applications and I have them on my website, and
I did a lot of digging in research on that.
I haven't personally seen that with my own eyes, but
I've heard of it kind of secondhand. But for whatever reason,
over the years and years and years and years and
years and years and years and years and years. Now
you can't even select state citizen. All it is just
a US citizen or a non citizen national in the
United States. Right. The problem is is that those two

(01:15:40):
classifications have nothing to do with being a true American.
They're both Fourteenth Amendment. They're both privileges immunities, they're not rights.
So they give you two choices, and both of them
fuck you, right, And I thought, you know, for a
long time, throughout a lot of my research, I thought
the non citizen national was the way out. So if

(01:16:00):
you watch a lot of videos at me, and you'll
see me talking about especially you know, three or four
or five months back, and then all the way back
to a couple of years back, I'm talking about nonsenis
the national and nonsense, the national passport, blah blah blah.
And then recently, like we're talking literally like two months ago,
I realized it's all the same. It's the same. It's
fourting Amendment, it's it's it's nonsenis the national of the

(01:16:22):
United States and US citizen are both fourteenth Amendment. So
then I was like, what the fuck, what the fuck
is not fourteenth It's like everything is fucking fourteen Amendment,
So what the fuck is not fourteen Amendment? So then
then I went back and I found the original Supreme
Court case, which is the Slaughterhouse Cases, and I teach

(01:16:43):
you how to get into all that and read all that.
If you go to Google scholar and you click on
case law Bubble and you type in the Slaughterhouse Cases.
I believe it's eighteen seventy three, and you click enter,
it should pop right up. It's a US Supreme Court
case from a series of cases from like eighteen seventy three.

(01:17:05):
If you go and you read the opinion of the
Slaughterhouse Cases, he breaks everything down, bro in like such
a clear way. He talks about the release slaves, he
talks about they didn't have citizenship. He talks about so
the way that he calls state citizens, he calls them

(01:17:27):
men of the union. And he also calls them freeman
of the union. So it's one word capitalization, Freeman of
the union. The word union is capitalized. Right, So you
have this freeman on the Land movement where people I'm
a freeman on the land promise. Where does that come from?

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
You?

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
Blah blah blah. So I'm different, right, I say, in
accordance with the Honorable Justice Miller in the US Supreme
Court case these Slaughterhouse cases, i am a man quote
man of the quote Union. And then I got and

(01:18:12):
then I go on to say I never needed the
citizenship offered by the fourteenth Amendment. It's crap, It's complete trash.
Why the fuck would I want it? Right, So then
I say I'm not a US citizen, I'm a man

(01:18:32):
of the Union. I don't just say man of the Union, though,
I say, in accordance with Honorable Justice Miller from US
Supreme Court case the Slaughterhouse cases, Comma, I am a
quote man end quote of the quote Union, end quote comma,

(01:18:55):
and never needed your fucking bullshit fourteen the mended citizenship.
So you're not saying yeah, you're not saying fuck you,
I've got it all figured out. You're saying, bro, I'm
literally just telling you what what what the courts have said.
I'm not I'm not making anything up. I'm not saying anything.
I'm not doing anything crazy like, I'm just following the law.

(01:19:17):
I'm literally just following them. Right, this is what this is.
I'm just taking what he said. Who I think he's
a great guy, because you know, you think, to yourself, boy,
whoever made the Fourth Amendment, they must be real pieces
of shit. And then you go back and you read
the Fourth Amendment and you read the Slaughterhouse Cases, and
you realize, God damn, bro, they were dealing with some
real shit. And I'm telling you right now, you read

(01:19:38):
the Slaughterhouse cases, they were really, really, really trying to
figure this out. Bro. They didn't hate black people. They
didn't hate this stuff. They were like really like trying
to figure it out. They didn't they you know, maybe
maybe they were racist just because kind of everyone was
at that point. Really, I mean to be honest, right,
But the thing is right. The thing is is that,

(01:19:59):
like you can tell when you're reading the opinion by
the Honorable Justice Miller, he's not like, fuck these people,
blah blah. He's like, just trying to solve a problem. Bro.
They're just they're just trying to figure it out. They're
not assholes. And I'm telling you right now, you know,
I believe in reincarnation. For all I know, I'm fucking
the reincarnated fucking Justice Miller because I'm pissed off about

(01:20:22):
all this stuff. I'll tell you right now. If Justice
Miller saw what happened after his fucking opinion, he would
go on, I want to say, like a murder rampage.
I seriously, he'd be like pissed? Does that? There's probably
not even a word in the English language to describe

(01:20:43):
how angry the Honorable Justice Miller would be, because I
promise you, if you read what he's talking about, he's
not that's not him, bro. Like, like you read the
thing and it's like, dude, this is awesome. He's really
trying to help. He's really trying to figure this out.
He's really trying to figure out a way to where
he doesn't get murdered in the South and the North

(01:21:03):
can kind of come together and and the release slaves
can you can have some kind of a citizenships where
they can function in society. But like, if I give
him too much, I'm gonna get fucking murdered, and blah blah.
You can just tell you he's trying to fucking piece
it together. And and and the thing is that it
just it just got it just got translated so horribly,

(01:21:26):
so so so so so fucking horribly, and people took
his opinion and twisted it and and took us down
this dark alleyway, and we've been we've been kind of
going down that dark alleyway ever since. So so so
so I think it's cool because you think, to yourself, God,

(01:21:48):
whoever fucking created all this mess, must be the most
racist piece of shit in the world. He may have been,
But I'm telling you, when you read the opinion, you're you're, you're,
you're gonna, you're, you're not gonna, You're not going to
feel that way. It's it's it's it's fascinating. It gives you.
It gives you such a different reality and such a

(01:22:10):
different respect for the the the amount of pressure and
difficulties that some of these justices were under, the whole
country up their ass and people probably showing up at
their house and threatening to kill them all day and
all night, and then they still go in there and
they still release these things, and they're trying their best.
And it's it's, you know, reading these court cases and

(01:22:34):
seeing the various things in our past, I I think
that these justices that were trying to do the best
they could are some of those badass motherfuckers like some
Tombstone doc holiday shit. Bro. I'm telling you right, I
think I think these are some of the most gangster
motherfuckers to walk the earth, and I think that that

(01:22:54):
they just they would just be absolutely spiritually devastated to
see that what has occurred from the things that they
were just I'm telling you, you read the opinion and
you look at the world now, and it's just these
guys would be you think you want to fucking light

(01:23:15):
government buildings on fire. I think Justice Miller, I think
the Honorable Justice Miller would would literally be lighting government
buildings on fire. And he's from the Supreme War. I'm serious.
I'm dead serious. I can't I'm dead James.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
He came back and see they just took his words
and just went rampant with it, Like God, this is
not what the hell I meant?

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Man, What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
That's correct.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
See that's what we need, man, we need that clarification.
And that's what like you say, those those opinion pieces
at the end of these trials, they give you real
good insights to it, and a lot of people they
just do, for some reason, do do not want to read.
But if you do some reading on it, that will
help us look at it in a different light because
going about this, like you said, most of these people

(01:24:00):
got a nine to five job. They're getting paid forteen
to fifteen dollars an hour to deal with your shit.
They don't know nothing about this shit, So why are
you giving them shit about this shit? If anything, educate
them so that they now know how to do their
job better.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Yeah, I would go. I would go so far as
I say, as everyone should read the dread Scott case.
And you can just go to a Google scholar and
type in dread Scott pull them to pop right up,
the biggest, one of the biggest cases in all the
history of America. And then and then also the the
Slutterhouse cases. I mean, I mean no joke when it

(01:24:37):
comes to nationality, racism, slavery, black rights, Like just just
those two cases, just those two opinions alone will give
you everything you know, ninety two percent of everything you've
ever wondered or wanted. So so, yes, it's confusing. Yes,

(01:25:00):
it's eighty million cases. Yes, there's eighty million cases. You
could read, Yes, and and and the dread Scott and
the Slaughterhouse cases. You think to yourself, it's from the
eighteen hundreds, and it's legal it's probably the most complicated
text on the entire fucking planet. No, it's not the
easiest text in the world, but you'd be surprised. It's
also not the hardest because they I'm telling you, were

(01:25:22):
when they were there and they were trying to figure
the shit out. They were really trying to address the nation.
You can tell, I promised you when you read the
fucking opinions, you can tell these guys were trying to
address the nation. They were trying to figure this out.
So like, yeah, they say some legal ease and they
throw a few things in there, but like the whole opinion,

(01:25:43):
if you were to like break it down, it's not
it's not. There's not a whole lot of that, right,
And you think eighteen hundreds they're gonna use big, huge
words no one can understand. No, they don't do that either.
The dread Scott and the and the Slaughterhouse. You'd be surprised.
You know. If I had to rate it on a
scale from what to in how difficult dread Scott and Slaughterhouse,
I'd say like a four. Seriously, So now we take

(01:26:07):
that and we say, like, okay, just a couple hours
a day when you're on the shitter, you look up
the dread Scott decision. You read it on your phone,
and you're gonna need to clear up some legal words
and clear up a few other things, and maybe look
up a couple historical timelines. Let's say, you know, twenty
minutes a day, every day for five or six days,

(01:26:28):
you could probably get through the dread Scott decision in
five or six or seven or eight or nine or
ten days at like, you know, fifteen twenty minutes a day.
It's not a five second thing, but it's also not
a million years. People think, oh it's a million years,
not a million years, right. Slaughterhouse Cases is the same thing.
You can read that whole opinion fifteen twenty minutes a

(01:26:49):
day on the shitter at night before you go to bed,
while you're eating, fifteen minutes a day, read it on
your phone, look up some you know, historical items, look
up some definitions of some words that maybe confusing you.
You know, ten days, so so in twenty days, in
my opinion, you could you could understand the dread Scott
decision and the Slaughterhouse cases, which is which is like

(01:27:11):
you see all these fucking people and Trump and all
these people talking about birthright, citizenship and the fourth it's
all horseshit. Bro, Everything you're seeing everywhere is all complete
fucking horseshit. You read the dread Scott and you read Slaughterhouse,
and I'm telling you you will know more about nationality, naturalization, aliens,

(01:27:33):
citizenship than any of these motherfuckers on the media. I
promise you. I literally swear to fucking God. And it's free.
You go on Google Scholar, you click the keyslaw button,
you type in dread Scott and then pop it pops
right up, and then you click on it, and then bing,
you're in the opinion. Then later on in the day

(01:27:54):
or ten days later, you go back to Google Scholar,
you click case law, you type in Slaughterhouse cases. Bang,
first thing comes up, click it, Bam, you got the
opinion right there, booth. It's that simple, It's that fucking simple. Yeah,
it's gonna take you more than three seconds to read
the goddamn opinion. Yeah there's no fucking video. Yeah, no
one's gonna suck you off. Yeah there's no audiobook associating

(01:28:17):
with it. I'm sorry there's not. So you know it's
gonna take a minute, But The thing is is that
you know, if you as a as a black man,
feel like this is fucked and what happened and how
did this happen? And where's the racism? That's it, bro,
that's the answer. Dred Scott Slaughterhouse, Bang, bang, that's it.
I mean, is there more cases? Is there more you

(01:28:38):
can learn? Is there more? Yes? Of course, But I'm
telling you you've got ninety percent of the conversation right there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Real yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
And all you got to do is just like you said,
just read. It's not Twitter, it's not Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
You don't expect and you can get all this information
on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
You want to get into those books, you want to
get into those words, and if they're going to be
talking to you about your life, at least understand what
they're saying about your life.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
That's just pretty much just the end.

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
Well, it comes down to this. You think, as a
black man, you've got no rights. Damn straight. If you
say you're a US citizen, you ain't got no rights.
The whole US citizen category was created for the black man.
It was literally I could look up, dude, check this out.
I can look up uh fucking uh, there's a there's
a California Supreme Court case that legit. No, Joe, you

(01:29:31):
want to you want to talk about some fucking racism.
You want to talk about how this and you can
get mad about it. You know you can get mad
about it. I don't see the point. I mean, it
is what it is. I mean, you get mad about it.
An't going to fucking change a goddamn thing. It's gonna
raise your corn at all level and make you look older.
So fuck you. If you want to do that, go
for it. But State Supreme Court eighteen seventy two, we've
got Ellen R. Van Valkenburg v. Albert Brown forty three Cal.

(01:29:56):
Forty three says, no, white this person born within the
limits of the United States and subject to the jurisdiction,
or born without those limits and subsequently naturalized under their laws,
owes the status of citizenship to the recent amendments to
the Federal Constitution. What does that mean? White people have

(01:30:19):
nothing to do with the fourteenth Amendment? Straight up, straight
the fuck up, bro, White people have nothing to do
with the fourteenth Amendment and all whatsoever. That's the first sentence.
Continuing continuing from there, it says the history and aim
of the Fourteenth Amendment is well known, and the purpose

(01:30:41):
had in view in its adoption well understood. That purpose
was to confer the status of citizenship upon a numerous
class of persons domiciled within the limits of the United
States who could not be brought within the operation of

(01:31:04):
the naturalization laws because native born and whose birth, though native,
had at the same time left them without of citizenship. No,
check this out, direct fucking quote you ready, these persons
were not white persons, but were in the main persons

(01:31:26):
of African descent who had been billed in slavery in
this country, or if having themselves never been held in slavery,
were the native born descendants of slaves. Prior to the

(01:31:47):
option of the fourteenth Amendment, it was settled that neither
slaves nor those who had been such, nor the descendants
of those, though native and freeborn, were capable of becoming
citizens of the United States. And guess what fucking case

(01:32:11):
they're talking about, dred Scott, dred Scott versus Sandford.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
Wow, that whole bull They said that the fourteenth Amendment
does away when the dread Skoy case just got thrown
out the window with another court case after the fourteenth
Amendment that upholds the dread Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Case, you got it, so that the dread Scott up
until the Slaughterhouse cases, it was all confusion. It was
like what do we do with these guys? And then
what are we gonna do? And oh my god? And
then and then there's a civil war and then like
who's gonna win? Who's gonna win? Oh, you know, if
the South winds, then then we're gonna We're gonna you know,
we're gonna we're gonna side with them. And then and
then everyone's just fucked and they're all slaves and we're

(01:32:53):
not gonna do anything at the North winds you know,
was called the Union at the time. If the Union wins,
we're gonna fucking Oh you know, so the Union one,
what do we do? You know, what do we do? Okay,
a union one? They don't want slavery? How do we
how do we figure this out? But if we if
we say that, you know, if we release all the
slaves and give them a state citizenship, we're gonna have
another uprising and then the war is never gonna fucking end.

(01:33:15):
And then I'm gonna get fucking murdered. My family is
gonna get fucking murdered. I'm telling you, I don't know
for a fact, but but but I'm telling you, I
believe this is what was going on during that time period.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
It makes sense, It makes too much sense.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
And hearing get explained and in a way that actually
does make this because it just boggs our mind. It's
been on black people mind for a long time. What
did we do to make white people ate us? And
all this and all that, but hearing getting that aspect,
it sounds a lot clearer.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
There was so much confusion.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
There was people who was afraid they was gonna lose
their jobs because slaves who were way more qualified at
the work were coming into the workforce, and they was
thinking they was gonna lose their just so they couldn't
get the same rights and they had to be given
privileges that could be taken away on a whim. And
twenty twenty five, everybody's a US citizen.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
When people think nowadays, you know, all white people have rights, Yeah,
in fact, everyone is a black release slave at this point,
literally everyone is a black released slave. So this whole nightmare,
this whole like chasm, this whole black hole that opened

(01:34:31):
in eighteen seventy three with the slaughterhouse cases, has engulfed
every race, every black man, every white man, every Spanish man,
every Filipino, every Venezuelan, every motherfucker in this country has
fallen into this black hole. Yes, the police, naturally, for
whatever reason, in a lot of areas, do operate in

(01:34:53):
a way that still kind of shocks me. I didn't
think it was true at first, but obviously I've learned
that that's not true. But actually, in law, everyone has
been engulfed by this thing. Every race is fucked. Yeah,
And I know in practice, in reality, in the car,

(01:35:14):
in the street, it may not seem that way, but
I'm telling you in in the law, in reality, in
the judicial system, everybody's fucked. Every Yeah, it's it's it's
just it's just fucked. Every single person that says they're
a US citizen, they're fucked. And and no one's ever
heard of anything else. So so if you've never heard

(01:35:35):
of anything else, it's like, oh, yeah, the only thing
I've ever heard of is this thing called the US citizen.
So that's what I am. I don't know, you know,
So if you're not that, what are you? Right? I
don't know, illegal alien, That's what those are the media.
I'll tell you me. I'll tell you a fucking illegal alien,
which is the biggest croc of shit on the fucking planet.

(01:35:55):
A US citizen is somebody who's allowed to domicide or residence.
It's actually, you can't even domicile when you get into
it deep enough, you can't even live in the district
of Columbia. You're only allowed to temporarily be there for
for for for commercial or or or or recreational purposes.

(01:36:21):
So the word domicile means you actually live somewhere. You
don't see that fucking word anywhere. And the reason why
is because it's gone for to the Amendment. Ain't the
whole goddamn country, So you don't have domicile anymore. You
have only residents. Oh, it's a Are you a resident
of Cate, California? Are you a resident of the city
of Los Angeles? Are you aware it is your residence?

(01:36:41):
People don't realize the word residence means a temporary location
where you intend to return to your domicile, and the
temporary location is for commercial or recreational purposes. And you
think yourself, well, why did they Why did they? Why
is everything resident? Because of the commerce clause. Everything's got
to be commercial. Domicile is in commercial in nature. Residence

(01:37:05):
at least opens the door to the possibility of a
commercial activity. Bam. Now the federal government has jurisdiction. The
word residence means that they have jurisdiction or they it's
not like that clear, but it's at least at least
opens the door to the possibility of gaining jurisdiction, whereas
domicile doesn't give them any jurisdiction. So they had to

(01:37:25):
they had to convert everything over to the word residence
and resident. And now the word domicile doesn't even exist.
You go back one hundred years in the Cours system,
everything's domicile. Nowadays you don't see the word domicile anywhere
because if you use the word domicile, now, all of
a sudden, you're not you're not under the jurisdiction of
the federal government you have. Everything is resident. It's it's
it's full blown. The fourteenth Amendment has completely engulfed everything,

(01:37:51):
all the term analogy, everything we say, everything we do,
The fact that state of California is a fucking corporation
or business. Listen on Dune Bradstreet, Uh, the Federal reserve,
federal reserve notes, negotiable instruments. I can go on and
on on driver's licenses, concealed carrier, fernaments, business licenses, all
of this. Everything you see, everything, business, bank accounts, everything

(01:38:15):
that you see in today's world stems from the complete
the fourteenth of the Men opened this tiny, little black hole,
and it's gotten bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger
and bigger. And at this point in twenty twenty five,
every motherfucker, every fucking business, every fucking bank account, every

(01:38:36):
fucking dollar, everything, every single certificate of title for a car,
ownership titles, everything, without getting into that too much has
fallen into this black hole. This black hole has literally
engulfed everything. And when you realize that, and you realize

(01:38:57):
that you can actually get out of it by understanding
the terminology. And people think that like it's paperwork that
fucking frees you, it's not paperwork, it's it's an understanding
of the situation black or white. And now right now, now,
if you're a black man and you want to get
out of all this. Truthfully, I'm not kidding there there

(01:39:18):
is some truth to the fact that You're going to
have to be extra knowledgeable and extra friendly. Oh yeah,
a white guy, a white guy could probably get away
with a little bit of snarkiness and a little bit
of this, and a little bit of not knowing a
few things here and there. I feel like, whereas a
black guy, if he really wants to walk out of this,
he's going to have to be like, he's gonna have
to really know it, super fucking polished. Like it's going

(01:39:41):
to be that the bar is going to be a
little higher. I'm sorry, I don't know. I don't know
how to song.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
You've already you've already proved it by showing the California
Supreme Court case that says that white people don't even
fall up under it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
We can't use that to our defense.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
That's correct, you know, if we classify ourselves as black,
you know, and going on a record, the government actually
has me classified as white because my family is from
North Africa. So that was something that was a very
big shock to me. I've been fighting the black the
black power movement. I was knee high, you know, and

(01:40:18):
then I'm filling out this paperwork trying to you know,
get my passport and trying to be nationalized and stuff
like that, and they tell me, sir, you're already classified
as white. You has done that at birth because your
family that she was from North Africa.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
If if if if the court system says that. The
way that the court system in America works is is
that someone makes a presumption and then the other party
has to basically like rebut that presumption. Right, So as
you see in Dred Scott slaughter House. And then I
like the one I just told you, the Van of Alkenberg,

(01:40:54):
because I'm in I'm in California and it's a California
Supreme Court case. It's like super effective for where I'm
located in the Ninth Circuit. But the thing is is
that I also like it because it's very clear white
people don't have anything to do with the part of
Amendment right, Like it's just so fucking like there's no
like you want to have a conversation about this, Like
absolutely not. I want to. I want to run away

(01:41:15):
as Q. That's what I figured, you motherfucker. You know,
because I'm I'm going up against you know, judges and
prosecutors and stuff, so so I like heavy hitting stuff.
I'll use whatever I can get But the thing is
that you got to think that when that quote I read,
they're talking about descendants of the slaves. So the whole
point of the amendment, So like, if you're a black

(01:41:37):
man and you come over here from Africa and you
got nothing to do with any of that and slavery
or nothing, then like, could you classify yourself as a
white person because you were never a descendant of slaves
directly through the dread scot and through slaughter house. That's
an interesting conversation because the thing is is that the

(01:41:58):
whole point of it is Lenny, when you start to
really read it and understand it, it's the lineage based.
So if I was uh Milano or half black, half white,
god knows whatever, and I was coming over from some
other country and like I didn't have any lineage associated
with slavery in America, I would probably just say fuck it,

(01:42:20):
I'm white because the white or black connotation has to
do with the lineage of a man who was held
in slavery and then released. So so so so is
it really color based or is it lineage based? And
like you read all this stuff and you read all
these opinions, it's you know, so, and you also got

(01:42:41):
to realize you're filling out a fucking passport application and
it says nationality, and you check the white box and
you signed the document. I've never once in my life
heard of somebody getting prosecuted. What are they gonna do.
They're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna come after you in
your penalty of perjury. Perjury from fucking putting white document.
It's never happened. It's never happened in a hundred years
of our whole fucking country.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Exactly exact I asked, you want to send fuck it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
I'm white because I'm not a fucking descendant of a
goddamn fucking slave, and I have the rights of a
fucking state citizen. I'm not a fucking Fourtuate Amendment fucking
piece of shit. Fuck you. I'm white for all purposes here,
and I signed the goddamn document. You want to say
something to me, you come after me, motherfucker. I'll see
you in court. I don't know that's how I would
do that, And then.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
I actually encourage people to look up Mustafa Healthney's Mustafa
Healthney is a dark complex. The Egyptian who is fighting
the government till this day, since the nineteen seventies to
be classified as black because he's been he thinks wrongly
classified as white. But if he reads the Federal Director
of fifteen, which is why he always gets his cases

(01:43:48):
thrown out by judges, the judge are like, well, technically, sir,
you put on your application you're from Egypt. Egypt is
in North Africa. North Africa, according to Federal Director of fifteen,
is classified as white. And he gets his cases thrown
out a lot. He has books written in everything he's fighting.
He's fighting a good fight. But he wants to be
classified as black.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
This is where he explains himself because he wants the
privileges that they're given to blacks. I'm not sure if
he understands that. He doesn't know he would no longer
have any rights.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
But you get the communities and the thing is that
the thing is that America wants you to sign up
as a fourteenth Amendment citizen. So they they want everybody
signed up as a So they want everybody basically classifying
as as black or or or I mean everyone is

(01:44:41):
is pretty much just self classifying as a black. Lineage
of a released slave. Essentially, that's the that's essentially the
whole country in a nutshell, honestly. And what's what the
creepiest thing about the situation is is that every single
person who does that, every single person who says I'm
a US citizen, basically what you're saying is is that
I I'm a released slave from the Civil War. But

(01:45:05):
you're also saying that I'm essentially living in the District
of Columbia, because you can't. A state citizen lives in
the state. A US citizen doesn't live in a state.
A US citizen is not a citizen of a state.
A US citizen is a citizen of the District of Columbia.
So the thing is is that on paper, you basically,
when you say you're a US citizen and everything, you
basically live in the District of Columbia. And the thing is,

(01:45:27):
the District of Columbia is not one of the fifty states.
They've been trying to become a state for years. You
can look up there's a whole website. It's a pretty
wild website where they talk about it's literally they have
an FAQ section they say fifty first state Washington d
C and that you can type it in is fifty
Is Washington, d C. Going to be the fifty first state.
And there's a whole website and they have a Q

(01:45:48):
and a section, they have all the stuff. And the
thing is, it's not They've been trying to for years.
It's never going to happen. They're all illusional, they have
no idea what's going on. But the thing is is
that it's it's every US citizen is essentially legally located
in the District of Columbia, and every man of the

(01:46:09):
Union who doesn't claim forteenth Amendment US citizen lives in
one of the states. So basically, on paper, ninety nine
point ninety nine percent of every motherfucker living in the
entire North American sector what people think of as the
United States of America, ninety nine point ninety nine percent

(01:46:29):
of every motherfucker in the entire country, on paper, lives
in the District of Columbia, in all of California. I'm
I'm one of literally just probably several hundred people that
actually legally, on paper live in California.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Yeah, it's lonely yet duh huh.

Speaker 4 (01:46:52):
I have rights. I don't have privileges of communities. I
don't want them.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
I'm not claiming them that And that's a beautiful thing, man.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
And once we get that understanding that concept, it's going
to be a lot easier to be able to get
this thing on a ball if we won't have to
worry about fighting policy, enforcers and things of that nature
in order to be able to desert our right.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
Let's say, let's say your great great great great grandfather
was enslaved, and let's say he had sex with some
woman who wasn't enslaved, and then there was a child
produced from that, and let's say that child was your
great great grandfather, and then he wasn't never in slavery,

(01:47:33):
and then he banged some hot Filipino girl who came
over from god knows where or whatever. The whole conversation
becomes fucking irrelevant so fucking fast. It's like, it's like
great great great great grandpa or I mean, we're not
that far. Great great Grandpa was a slave, but great

(01:47:54):
great grandma wasn't. Right, So now what now we got son?
And then now son was with great grandma. Already, where
we've got a conversation Already, we've got a fucking a
defense in court already, and we haven't even gotten down
to Grandpa, and then we've got Dad, and then then

(01:48:16):
we've got you. So the thing is that the whole
thing is just it's so fucking stupid. It's so fucking irrelevant.
It doesn't need to exist. We don't need it. So,
like Congress has already said in nineteen sixty three or
sixty four, I got that on my websites that the
fourth and Amendment was never you know, Google says that
it was fucking yeah. So what happened was there was

(01:48:39):
a bunch of states that said, I don't know about this,
and then they threatened those states and they said if
you don't, yeah, you're not gonna be part of the union.
You can't that it's part of the like the basic
aspects of a contract under threatened dress. The signature on
the contract is no avoid under the threatened dress. So
like Congress talks about this in like sixty seven or

(01:49:01):
sixty six, and they have this whole thing where talking
about how those signatures don't even count. So like if
you don't count those signature as the fortun of amendment
never even existed. And even if it did. The conversation is, dude,
that was great grandpa and my you know, great grandma wasn't,
and then now this guy and this guy, and it's
like bang now like I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.

(01:49:22):
You would need to prove in a court of what government,
department of state that great grandma and great grandpa were
both delineated from slaves, and then Grandma and Zach, we're
both delineated from slaves, and then Dad and Mom are
both delineated from slaves. And you ain't ever gonna fucking
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Nope.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
So basically on paper, I'm white. Fuck you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Exactly exactly, Brandon. This has been very enlightening, man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
I love this conversation man, because you brought some acts
from some skeptic symptoms that people been having. You've actually
been breaking it down in brought those insights to life.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
I gonna appreciate you for that because with that, with
this knowledge, we got weaponry. Now we have the right weaponry,
We got the right mindset to go into this. And
what your work has been doing with the Contract Killer
two point zero. Love it, love it, and we're gonna
be pushing it because we definitely need to get that
knowledge out there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
But before we go, I do want to leave the
audience with a couple of questions for them to go
and work out on their own. The first one is
that who benefits within the entire population is stripped of
the nationality and replaced with a system such as the
credit system that we got. And why is the fourteenth
Amendment framed this progress when its foundation is arguably fraudulent?

(01:50:41):
And what would happen if we all reclaimed our rights
and refuse to participate in this system anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
Now, if these.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
Listeners, if you out there you like this conversation, this
is actually fitting you right now. Make sure you follow Brandon,
Joe Williams, and One Stupid Fuck on all platforms. You
can find this work at one Stupid fuck dot com
to learn more about dismantling the system and reclaiming your freedom. Brandon,
it guess you would like to leave the audience with.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
I mean, if I were to answer you asked a
lot of questions there if a little leit's spend in here,
The truth is is that is that I truly believe
that very few people are aware. I've had a lot
of opportunities to talk to a lot of senior bankers.
I've talked to a lot of people that even at
the DMV, I've had a lot of reports. I get
a lot of information through reports. I know people who

(01:51:30):
know people who know police. I have police who follow
my stuff. I've so many things. I've been doing this
for a few years now and my email list is
about fifty thousand people. So I mean, you can imagine
the amount of information and stuff that I get on
a day to day basis. And I'm telling you there's
one thing I can promise you is that just no
one knows so the area where you can transform into

(01:51:57):
a really bad situation, and it's the same thing across
the board all the way through every report, is you
assume that the police officer who pulls you over, the
DMV person across the table, the banker who you're dealing with,
you assume they know things, and then they have the
intent to suppress or oppress you. And then that causes

(01:52:19):
really a lot of anger and hostility and frustration in
your universe. Right And I'm telling you, I promise you,
I swear to God on everything unto the someone who
starts everything I hold dear my own Dick, I swear
on my own penis that you no one has any clue.
And the percentage chance of you going through your whole

(01:52:41):
life and meeting someone who truly has the intention to
destroy you. Yes, the people at the very very very
very very very top who create all this, who do
all this stuff, and they're like these puppet string masters
of the Yes, they have the intent to hurt you.
The chances of you even meeting someone that fits that
category throughout your entire life is so slim, I guarantee you.
And it's going to destroy your life. It's going to

(01:53:02):
raise your cortisol levels. It's going to fuck you up
in the head to think that everyone knows except you
and they're all out to get you. That will literally
clinically drive you insane. That the truth of the matter is,
the chances of you meeting someone that really knows this
information and they really are out to get you in
your entire life, from the day you're born till the

(01:53:24):
day you die, even after you learn all this information,
is extremely low. I don't think I've ever met a
single person in my entire life directly that knew what
was going on and was openly and explicitly intending to
suppress or oppress me. I have a case a small
business administration. I have an attorney. His name is mister Ferrell,

(01:53:45):
Alex Ferrell, and I've been on the phone with him
several times. I was on the phone with him yesterday actually,
and I say things to him and he looks things up.
I can hear him clack clackhawk on his computer. Either
these people are the greatest actors that have ever exist
since the dawn of humanity, which they definitely are not,
by the way, or they just don't know. They just

(01:54:07):
don't know. And the thing is the thing that's going
to make you angry, and the thing that's going to
piss you off, and the thing that's going to make
you want to go out and buy a lot of guns.
Is this idea that people know and they have the
intention to knowingly and willingly stop, destroy, suppress or oppress you.
And I swear to God that is not the case,

(01:54:28):
literally on my own dick, I swear to God. So
the chances have been happening is so slim. And the
real reality of the situation, after being three years in
lots of courts and lots of things, and lots of
people and lots of reports and fifty thousand people on
an email list. I have come to realize that the
problem is is that people just don't know. We need

(01:54:49):
to share the information in a fun, calm, not crazy, lunatic,
blow up the building kind of away, and we need
to we need to just share the information, have some fun.
You know, it's not about raising cortisol levels through the
roof and then looking twenty years older than you actually are,

(01:55:10):
and and developing medical issues, and and and enriching the
the the pharmaceutical company. Because you're you're stressing yourself out
to the point where you feel you need you know,
every other goddamn fucking advertisement on the fucking TV is
for some bullshit fucking medicine, you know whatever, you know whatever.

(01:55:31):
They're trying to sell something to everybody because they're trying
to make everybody think they're fucking ill and all this.
It's not the case. The case is that, you know,
people don't know. We need to share the information and
a fun, a fun We have fun, enjoy your life, laugh,
have some humor, share some of the information. Maybe somebody
thinks you're crazy, fucking batshit crazy. Oh keep fine, don't

(01:55:54):
share the information anymore of that person. Just move on,
you know, not a big deal, you know, and and
just have a little bit more of a of a relaxed, fun,
educational mind. And I think if we do that, and
we share the information in a fun, educated, interesting way,
and we don't jump down people's throats and freak out
and paint our faces and strap bombs to our chest

(01:56:17):
and all these crazy things, I think I think, I
think we can achieve something really wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
Man, that's beautiful right there.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
I agree with you, man, The possibilities are end this
when we work together.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
And that's real talk.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Now, I know you usually don't give a fuck, But
is there anyone out there that you give a fuck
about that you want to give a shout out to?

Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
I mean, you know, my fans would be the only thing.
I mean I've got. You know, my fans run around
and and and share the information and and and and
say a lot of cool things. And I think that that's, uh,
that's what I live for. I mean, I live for,
you know, who's the next person that's gonna find out
about this information? Who's the next person that's gonna learn
about you know, even one piece of this information. It's

(01:57:01):
not it's not about it's not about how do I
understand all of this and become a Jedi master in
fucking ten minutes. It's how do I just just a
few pieces? Bro, Just just even just like, holy shit,
there's something really crazy here. This is crazy. I want
to learn more about this. Even that's like crazy, that's
like you're like unleashing the beasts, you know what I mean?
Like even just like, holy shit, that things aren't what

(01:57:22):
I thought they were. Uh, this is crazy. Maybe there's
some truth to this, Maybe this one stupid fuck guy
is absolutely batshit insane, or maybe maybe he's got a
couple of things that might actually really change some things
in my life and might be really interesting and might
be really helpful. I'm I'm That's where I'm at, Bro.
I'm not in this whole like everything's going to change

(01:57:43):
tomorrow and every piece of information has to be accessed
in ten minutes. I just don't think that's realistic. So,
you know, he fans who just share the information. We
all share the information, we all, we all work together
helping other people empower and educate themselves. I'll sit there
and fucking talk to cops. I'll sit there and fucking
talk to d m V employees. I don't care. I

(01:58:06):
don't If you're in front of me and you're and
you're willing to hear anything, you know, I might fish
a little bit. Hey, you're heard, uh you know, uh,
you don't need to pay taxes? You ever know about that?
Oh you're crazy, You're crazy? Okay, no problem that I'm crazy,
No problem, you know. But if you say, hey, you know,
you ever heard you know you pay taxes? Really? You know,
I've heard a little bit about this, but I think
it's all bullshit, you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised, you know.

(01:58:28):
And then you can kind of go from there and
blah blah blah and say a few things. It's like
fishing a little bit, you know. But but I, but
I I I do that a lot. I'm always trying
to figure out, like can I can I say something?
You know? And if I can't, then okay, it's okay,
you know, no problem. And if I can, you know,
I'll say a little bit, not too much. All of
people will be like can I say something? And then
they'll be like this tiny little opening and they just

(01:58:50):
like smash through it at like four hundred miles an
hour and they throw their whole body through it. That's
that's that's that's rough, because you're gonna shut the person off.
So it's sort of like you have to kind of
understand this whole kind of you know, you know, you
push it a little bit, and then you get a
little access, and then you push it a little bit
and you get a little access, and then now they
shut down. So now you back off. And I'm telling you,

(01:59:13):
if you if you understand the nuances of this, you
you you won't feel upset and angry because you won't
there's nothing to be. You feel angry because you're trying
like hell to help someone that you love, and then
they they fucking put the wall up, and you go, motherfucker,
I'm trying to save your life. God, God, I'm gonna
save your fucking life, whether you like it or not.

(01:59:34):
And and and then that just makes it worse. And
that's kind of like a lot of what we what
we run into. So so it's a lot of you know,
sharing the information is a is a really cool, delicate operation.
It's like it's like as much as it hurts me,
as much as it's painful for me to walk away
from this conversation right now, you can even say that, bro,
literally be like, I love you so much, I want

(01:59:56):
this so much for you, but I see that you
don't want it. I'm gonna walk away. And you know,
if you ever change your mind, I would just love
to tell you more about this. You have no idea.
It's like my heart just bleed for this and and
you just walk away. I mean, what else can you do?
You know what I mean exactly?

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
You don't want to force it down.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
They throw because that's how they got into the situation
in the first place, being forced into it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
So I can hear you on that, one man, And
that's why it would be great.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
It's great to have people like you out there that's
actually teaching us. And that's why Revolution Every Hour Podcast
actually exists to make sure that people can get this
information to a point where hopefully they can lead their
emotions out the door. So that's why I want to
invite everybody that's listening right now to make sure you
find one stupid fuck Brandon Joe Williams on all platforms,
follow him. Follow Revolution every Hour Podcast on all streaming

(02:00:46):
platforms and YouTube, and for exclusive reggae content and updates,
make sure you visit us at SBC movement dot com.
Remember that black history is in black history. It's time
to reclaim the narrative and discover the truth. Stay revolutionary
and we'll see you the next time. All right, appreciate
your brandon man. You have a great night.

Speaker 4 (02:01:05):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:01:05):
We're gonna definitely stay in contact.

Speaker 4 (02:01:08):
Thank you.

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