September 30, 2025 • 49 mins
Another audio recording has dropped and “Free Karen Read” is at eachother’s throats. Will #Turtlegate implode Free Karen Read?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, just to be clear, you didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
You all know if John was beaten up and attacked
in that house, who did it?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We don't know. We don't know, and it's not for
us to know.
Speaker 5 (00:17):
Somebody other than Karen. Somebody other than Karen is responsible
for that, for the killing of John.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You are listening to the ROBERTA. Glass True Crime Report
putting the true back in true crime from New York City.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
ROBERTA.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Glass is now on the record.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh, okay, here we go. How is everybody? Hello? Mom,
crime junkie. Hello, that's very nice. Hello, Hello Texas Brat.
It may be a very small crew. It's my fault.
(01:29):
I got this up late. She FLI nine. So sometimes
they just don't send out notifications text Sprat, Iowa travel
nurse Naven Hello, Hello Hello. So Turtlegate continues on. So
(01:53):
when I'm talking about Turtlegate, I feel like I'm just
relaying gossip at this point. But it is important as
to you know, the unity of free Karen Reid and
how they're going to go and deal with the civil trial.
(02:13):
If this is gonna if this innocent fraud campaign is
going to come into the civil trial. If it does,
they don't have a choice, really a chance. If you know,
someone reminded me yesterday that this judge says he's going
to get off this case. He's circling out of this case.
Which I had that fear, which was so odd watching
the watching the civil hearing. So, is this judge is
(02:40):
going to be very good and he's only going to
be at the beginning for a very short period of
time and then we're going to get another judge, Canoni
coming in? Is this what's going to happen? And apparently
it is. Apparently he's circling out. By the time this
goes to trial, he will not be the judge. Hey, Monica,
(03:03):
So if you don't know what Turtlegate is, Aiden Carney
got accused of tapping Karen Reid's phone calls by Karen Reid.
Karen Reid put this out in a text message to
a guy Nick from Philadelphia, also goes by the name
Joe Flipperhead. I'm gonna just call him Joe Flipperhead because
(03:27):
it's easier for me. So Joe Flipperhead. This got around
and you can see the text messages. Joe Flippers had says, Hey,
do you want this out?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Karen Reid said, I've had it. I've had it with Aiden.
He's done it too many times. He's put me in
Ham's way. This is this is a this isn't word
for word, but it's, you know, the gist of what
she said. So many times he's put me in Ham's way.
This is the final draw. He taped my phone calls
(04:03):
without my knowing, and then this phone then this taped
recording of the two of them talking strangely. She says,
a random person said it, but was it really Aiden
Carter himself? Who sent it to Alan Jackson and David
(04:23):
Ynetti Karen Reids lawyers. So this phone call of Karen
Reid and Aiden Carter screaming at each other, going back
and forth, and they've been selected anyway, screaming back and
forth at each other, getting ahead of myself and landed
(04:45):
in the says Karen Reid, landed in her lawyer's office.
So Free Karen Readers were asking about this. There was
a spaces on X, which is like an audio hangout
on X with Free Karen Readers and Aiden Carney joined,
and he was screaming and swearing that at this allegation
(05:09):
that he recorded Karen Reid's and he said, there's no recording.
If there's a recording, bring it. You know, you have
no receipts. You have no receipts, he said, or recites
he said, so he called it. I mean, just swearing
up and down that these recordings didn't exist, and they
(05:30):
have been selectively leaked strangely in ways that would make
Karen Reid look good. If you're more astute and you've
been living on planet Earth for a long time, you
also might notice that it sounds like two criminals talking
(05:53):
to each other. I didn't do anything. I mean, what
does everyone say when they get arrested? I didn't do
any I didn't do anything. Fuck And did you notice, also,
by the way, that she was asked by the press
to make a statement to the prosecution and she said,
(06:13):
you lost noticed she didn't say I didn't do it.
Wouldn't that be the first thing you say, is like
I didn't do it, I didn't do this crime. I
didn't do this kind of rhyme I would be saying,
I would be screaming, I did not kill John O'Keefe,
and it was outrageous that this killer. Do you notice
that the real killers or killers are still out there?
(06:36):
And Karen Reid is what selling her book deal and
hanging out at her parents' house, She's strangely not looking
for the real killers of her boyfriend of two years?
Does anyone else find that strange? So she put out
this now Free Karen Reid. So she put out this
tape and when it came out, Aidan Carney did a
(06:58):
live let's take a look at it just a little bit.
I won't for you with all of it. This is
episode eight one one where he says, and you know,
(07:18):
he's kind of right. I mean, what Free Karen Reid
has is the ability to not criticize other Free Karen
readers when their behavior is totally immoral, off the charts.
It's all so because they're far for morality is so low,
(07:38):
they don't really criticize each other. So they were really
a like an unbreakable unit going into both these trials
Free Karen read There wasn't a lot. There was maybe
little tips, but not a lot of inviting because they
don't when there's bad behavior, it just doesn't get called
(08:01):
out whereas our side was not unified and was cliquish,
and I mean, I think I dealt with some of
the worst treatment from this side. So but here he says,
(08:24):
it's a psychop. It's a psychop, guys. So the conspiracy
theory mindset is really key in these innocent fraud campaigns.
It's very necessary because you have to believe that something
extremely like, so improbable and unlikely happened while ignoring the
(08:44):
things that are right in front of your eyes. On
most innocent fraud campaigns, there are some that are a
little bit more slight and more believable, but most of
them are ask you to avert your eyes at the
really serious evidence.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
And it's like, bro, this is all a fucking ssiop.
This is all a distraction.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
We'll call it a psychop a SiO. Yeah, a psychop.
It's a psycho. It kind of is. It's my own
new word for it. It's an op by psychopaths kind
of is. I don't know, uh so, Karen read so basically,
what's happened lately is you know, I'll feel you on
what's happening lately. But let's go just like bit by bit.
(09:35):
But he's like so does he come out and say, like,
I'm really sorry I lied to all of you. It's
just like, you know I'm gonna lie. You know I'm
gonna lie. I'm gonna lie and accuse other people of
lying and swearing at you and calling you the worst
things imaginable just to cover up something I don't want
(09:59):
out there to protect my lie. And then when he
gets caught, he's like, mmm, let's all be unified, guys.
Come bay yah, kumbaya.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
My lord.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's like, let's all old dance and sing kumbayah. All right,
here we go.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Do not let these bad faith actors change the fucking
subject and cause division when we need to be united.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Period.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
That's it, like the think the battle's over, You think
it's fucking over now. I got one hundred five years
in jail potentially ahead of me. Right, John o'keith doesn't
have justice yet, right, be weak.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Thanks to you guys, Thanks to you guys, and never
will really, I mean, at least in the criminal chords. Yeah,
it's right around the corner. The Feds something the Feds.
Other people look the other way. Someone else. It's Jen McCabe.
It's not Jen McCabe. It's Brian Higgins. It's not Brian Higgins,
(11:07):
it's someone else. It's the police, it's Proctor with absolutely
no time to plan anything. Anyone but Karen Reid. It's
just not Karen Reid.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Guys, fury of anyone trying to sew division right now, period,
and I'm not feeding into it. I appreciate the turtle chats,
but as of right now, I don't feel it's responsible
for me to continue to you know, inflame or kind
of like get the flames going anymore.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
We do the opposite, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Right, nobody's asking him to inflame, sow the flames. Just
how about apologize for lying to your audience. Clearly there
was a tape. I don't take any responsibility for my behavior,
and I need you guys all when I'm facing one
hundred and five. I don't think he knows and I know,
(12:06):
and I feel like realistic people watching this case know
that he's not facing He's not going to do any
prison time, jail time, I don't think so, I'm not
convinced of it. I'd be very surprised if he did
any jail time at all on these charges. I mean,
they're really like above the law. At this point, Karen
(12:27):
Reid is so popular in that area, it's like they're
above the law. And he says that on another live
he's like, I told Karen, they're not going to indict
you on anything. They're not gonna my charges aren't going anywhere.
So now he's playing victim like I could be in prison,
a political prisoner.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Guys Olivia's Ghost Tour sends ten box and goes that
sounds as legitimate as a ring camera footage of Karen
running over John O'Keeffe. We are with you, Doc, Either
produce it or shut up.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Again. This is like, I appreciate the sport.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
I don't want to like turtle chats to like call
out specific people and start shit.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm not I get it. I get why people. I
appreciate the support I do. I do appreciate the support.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
I'm just not looking to feed the flames tonight, if
you know what I mean, and that's my decision. You
can call me whatever you want for that, but it's
just not what I'm doing tonight.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
So I appreciate the support.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
They go on to say that these motherfuckers have lost
their mind and I'm sorry you're dealing with all this
love you well, I appreciate that Olivia's ghost tour, and honestly.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Today I wasn't heay.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
I didn't tweet all day today because I spent the
day watching the New England Patriots fucking murder the Carolina Panthers,
and I love.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm sorry you're dealing with the consequences of your line
and your bad behavior dropping draw uh secretly recording people,
and it sound to me, it sounds like it's some
kind of blackmail, like I believe Aidan Carney has probably
(14:15):
sent that recording to David Yanetti and Alan Jackson reminding
him that he's got the goods, and Karen Reid, because
I'm sure the more damning parts of that audio are
are will not be released to the public, only the
parts that Karen Reid approves. So let me play you
(14:36):
just It's a very short one, but there is a
new wire tap out this then they say they're may
be more released.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Had to deal with I didn't hang up with him
and tell you to fuck off.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I didn't hang up on you and tell you to
fuck off. It's not one of my tantrums. There's that.
There's this also, this one was on X. Hold on
one second, seriously, let's have a conversation.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Right I tell you, Karen Verbert, you leave without the story.
Let's have this conversation. Seriously, Let's have a conversation right
until you, as Karen Verbert, you beleeve without the story.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You noticed that you said I didn't just report, you
know where my reporting? Hold on second, my boyfriend wants
(15:50):
me to make the audio slower, so I will here
it is slowed down a bit.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Karen Verberts, your leave without the story. Let's have this conversation. Seriously,
Let's have this conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Okay, it's not a it's not a barn burner. But
so you notice he says, where would you be without
this story? Not that I just followed the facts. I
reported your life accurately. It's where would you be without
(16:24):
this story that I made up? You'd be in prison.
It's what he's saying. If people actually just follow the
facts of the case and not all the stuff that
I made up, and somehow we had this weak judge
Canoni allowed all this nonsense to be brought into court,
(16:47):
you'd be in prison. That's what he's saying. So ironically,
are they met at at aiden Carney, their leaderless leader.
Not really who were they mad at. They're mad at
Joe Flipp her head for releasing the for doing what
(17:08):
Karen wanted to do and releasing the audio. We don't
know my father's alibi. We don't know, hey, Allison, we
don't know when these calls were. It sounds like after
(17:31):
they took her phone, but maybe it was. She said
to you know how much they have on my phones,
But she also won't give the password. They still can't
get into her phones. She did the same thing in
her criminal case. She refused to give them the password,
so they have to break in. Took eighteen months to
break into her phone, and so now they have these
two phones because she's not doing anything shady. But she said,
(17:56):
you know what's on those phones. They can't break into them.
They're still trying to break into them. So that may
be the difference of indicting her in some kind of
I don't know, federal conspiracy. If they can actually break
into her phones, I don't know. It seems like the
FBI could do that pretty easily, I thought, But maybe
(18:18):
I'm wrong on that. She put a six digit Maestro
says she put a six digit passcode on them too.
Is that harder to break into? I guess so than
a smaller one. I mean, is it a guest? I mean,
is there a machine that can just guess six digit
(18:38):
passcodes forever and ever? Like AI Good? I don't know.
I don't know anything about hacking into someone cell phone.
So the reaction is they're all mad. I mean, this
may not be a very long one, but just to
keep you updated on what's going on, is this the end?
(19:05):
I have a feeling that, see they keep the the
really serious players and Joe it may be the end
of Joe Flipperhead. So they're all mad at Joe Flipperhead.
As witnessed on the JFK Show, this is like the
after party after you've watched Turtle Boy. You have another show,
(19:25):
you can watch the after show. Check out what they
had to say.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Call me on channel three.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Turn up to walk you talking?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Listen if you think this is the problem with these
fucking people, if you think Karen Reid didn't kill John O'Keeffe,
and what the fuck is the beef about? By putting
shit out like that? Now, now the text the recording
that I thought I thought it was something else. I
thought it could have been anything. This recording is basically
getting them caught up in some criminal ship, you know
(19:56):
what I mean?
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Absolutely so if you think, if you think, if you
think that you let me shut my camera off while
I talk this shit. If you think Karen is innocent,
then why even put that out? You know what I'm saying, James,
Like you feel what I'm saying, right, Like? What's that doing?
So you want her to get in trouble? You want?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I mean that's why you've got to raise. And what
I was gonna say too, is it's only gonna raise
if it doesn't get her hemmed up. It's only gonna
raise you know, our ears to these law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay. For whatever reason, Karen Reid wanted to make it
look like she had it with Aiden Turtle Boy Carney.
She wants it out. She wants to make a public break.
Whether she she's done this before where she said she's
had a public break and she clearly hasn't. For whatever reason,
right now she feels it's important to say she's had
(20:55):
a public break. I don't think these two can ever
really break up because they just don't care enough. If
it's useful to them, they'll come back together. So for
whatever reason, Karen Reid wants this to come out, that
(21:16):
she's publicly throwing Turtle Boy to the curb, tossing him
to the curb, and that he recorded her, and to
have people I don't know, maybe she knows that pre
Karen Reid won't turn on Turtle Boy, but it's so
funny that they're like, what's the point. Obviously Karen Reid
doesn't think she's releasing anything that will get her in
(21:38):
any kind of criminal trouble. So that's why, I mean,
if you mean we could she's not admitting to any crimes,
but she's you know, she's clearly panicked. I mean, the
most damning one is she said, do you know what
they had? What I had on my phone? She never
(22:00):
says it's criminal. It could be something sentimental. She could say,
did they think like a criminal? Could be my friend's
baby pictures, grandkid pictures. I don't know. She sure is
panicked about it, but she asked for all these and
(22:22):
I'm sure she handpicked all this audio to be released.
They can't even seem to follow the I mean, makes
sense as to why they're free care readers. They can't
seem to follow the timeline at all of events.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Agencies too want to keep that phone and say did
we miss anything? Give it another sweep because you never know, man,
I mean, you just don't double down on something that
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But then again another sweep. No no, no, no no no.
James Jackson, they're talking about the two phones that were
picked up and they tried to indict her on witness intimidation,
and the grand jury wouldn't indict her. That's how popular
she is in Massachusetts. They couldn't even indict her with
(23:17):
lots of evidence of witness intimidation and conspiracy between her
and Aiden Carney. She had two phones. They picked them up,
but they couldn't get into her phones, but there was
other stuff that they They can't get into those phones.
Is my understanding? Correct me if I'm wrong. I mean
(23:37):
that's what they're saying in the If you read the
moving papers in this case, I mean the court documents,
the things that the Cosgrove is submitting. He's saying he
can't get into these. He's still trying to get into
these phones of Karen's. So these aren't phones that she
(24:07):
had when the phone she had when John O'Keefe that
she also tried to keep away that she that they
watched go what No, that's the you know that she
also went in hand over and had to wait for
her remember what she had to wait for her father.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
But I guess what they're trying to do is they're
trying to show everybody that Karen right, is Karen okay?
And this ship? Why would Karen want that out there?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I think Karen wanted out there like that there was
some other ship going on behind the scenes with her
on TV. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Mean you mean to tell me Karen Reid wanted her
in a panic, screaming it's dangerous, They're dangerous. She wanted
to show how like okay, if look, I'm a past him, Mike,
Why would she want that out there? You heard the recorder?
Why would she want that out there? Like, I don't understand,
Like what so she just wants everybody to know that
he's shady.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It sounds like yeah, for whatever reason, she thinks it's
helpful to her to make a public break with him
because he's also facing uh to distance herself as his
charges for witness intimidation or in the press. I don't
think anything's gonna happen with him. That's where I'm at.
(25:35):
Seems pretty logical to me. How's everybody else Where's everybody
else at on this? I don't know. They're they're they're
bewildered by this. I mean, just to remind you, hold on,
let me pull them up. I'll be putting these new
ones up as shorts. I'm just keeping a record of them.
(26:00):
Short section so have also been criticized by Karen read
by putting up these recordings. It's nice to have a
record of them somewhere now on YouTube. Well, thank you
(26:20):
to the house.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And then you want me in the telly again again?
Speaker 6 (26:25):
You have any school was on.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
My phone that they took I want to do. I
paid the price for that.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
You didn't I enjoying it?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I enjoyed.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Do you like honestly believe that I've like the one
point one billions dollars if your legal of the French form.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
But you needed that right?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Where the do you think that came from?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Horse?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
There was partly to do with Lindsay.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
And I paid the price for that.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I had in there for six days.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And then that's not the narrative your narrative is I
want to feel for Karen and he doesn't thank me.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
No, I did go to life, was arrested for Karen Reid.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
That's a fact.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
And I nearly got indicted with you, Aiden, I nearly.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Went with you house.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
That's what I.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Said, and saved your credibility.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I gave you the story, and I have backed up
everything I've never told you. I know you're taking a
Twitter house.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
That's what I.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Said, right.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It came really from the mind of Natalie bern Schneider uwiki,
the middle woman started creating this fantastical tale conspiracy. I
gave you the story. I fed you the story, I
fed you the documents that you could you could write
(27:52):
a fantastical fantasy. Oh you think that, Oh here's the
conspiracy theory. You think that Olivia Lamb or Lambeau on
(28:16):
X's having some kind of online romance with Joe Flipperhead.
This isn't the real Karen. Certainly sounds like the real Karen.
She's managed to recreate her language perfectly. Yeah, Aiden records everything.
(28:39):
I highly doubt this is the only time he recorded
their call. Beverly Lawyer one sodium penthethal Maybe truth serum
give them all some truth serum, you say, get to.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
The real.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh really, Flipperhead admitted today Karen Reid did not send
it or tell flipper had admitted Karen REI did not
down to release the recordings. It's hard to know what
the truth is, isn't it? You see protecting Karen Reid.
(29:20):
They will all protect the Queen Bee. Thanks Carol for
fluing me on a nut. I miss that. Hard to know.
Hard to know. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense either
(29:48):
to me, because let's remember back, Hold on one second,
let me go to all the things I saved here.
Remember when Karen Reid shouted out, Joe Flipperhead, Well, but
(30:10):
let me go back, Joe is it Joe Flipperheader?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Alan Everson flip ahead.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Right now, right now? Thank you, Joe, Thanks for your support.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Thank you, Karen, No doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Joe is it Joel? Wasn't this when she was comparing
her cause to Vietnam?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
So? Is that?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
What else do I have for you?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It was like less than forty eight hours that he
got He got totally totally burnt in his lie that
he doesn't work. He recorded things. I mean, you can
go back to my episode A couple of days ago,
and just the audio and the venom he was. It
(31:35):
really sounded like a kid lying to me, where's the tape?
Where's the tape? Show the receipts? You're e fin lying?
I mean their mouth on these people?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Hi, So.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
These people are just you know, the pre carent readers
are just.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
But if that's well, if that's what wanted, I'm sorry, James.
For somebody to want that, I gotta shut you down.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Bro, you're coming in loud, my bad.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
For somebody to want that information out there, yeah, that
would be shady on their half, because why would you
want to put this out there? You don't know the
ship storm it's about to cause. And look what it
did now. Now now it's kind of affecting your image.
So was it a good move? Probably not. Is it
going to age? Well absolutely not. So I don't know why.
(32:34):
I don't know why she would want that out there,
and just.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
To be just to prove to everybody that Turtle Boy
is reckless.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Yeah, I think so, or to prove that she's not heartless,
you know, because a lot of people are giving her
ship saying you O TV this and you O TV that.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
I mean, she could have went about it in a
different way. She could have just jumped on a stream
and just said, listen, absolutely, I got love for TV.
He helped me, we were friends. We're not seeing either
eye right now. I love all you guys. I'll see you.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
I'll see.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Flipper is saying, Okay, here more confusion from Karen Reid.
Joe is saying, simply saying, it's not Karen herself who
leaked the cause clearly not. Ye asked her, do you
want me to leak the calls? And she said yeah,
And I'm sure he didn't. Just he didn't pick them.
(33:25):
I'm sure Karen Reid picked it. He's not questioning if
they are authentic. Oh, I'm not questioning if they're authentic.
Did you think that's what I was saying? I thought
she meant it was a fake Karen. He got catfished.
He's not okay, he's not questioned, right, He's not questioning
(33:47):
the certainly seemed like the way Karen talked. I don't
know that's the way she talks and writes. If you've
looked at her, looked at all the text messages between
herself and other people that have been released, does anybody
have anything else Sam and keep it short today. I mean,
(34:11):
we can watch maybe a little bit more of this,
but I'm not gonna keep going for forever. It's just
this is really just a little update up, a little
uppy daity.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
And that could have been it over wit done with.
Come on stop. I mean this this seems crazy, man, this,
this is this is crazy. I mean, like I said,
I never thought the context of it was gonna be
that that shit sounded like that sounded like, you know,
the Feds are outside and there's a key in the house,
you know, right Like it sounded like, you know, like
they know they got polos in.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
The bag and ship and then and then what I
got from it too was.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You'd like to say that Karen Reid is a killer. Okay,
I agree with that. I can't disagree with that. I
feel the same way. Uh beach Nance says Karen is
smarter than Turtle. What these psychopaths are. They get a
lot of credit for being like super smart. What they
(35:14):
are is cunning and calculated more than like extreme brains.
I'd say she's a whack job, but it's fun to
watch these guys try to puzzle it out. Why would
she want that out?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
There.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Why would she want that out there? Guys, I'm in
the mood today. I've been funny mood today.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Almost the same thing we got from his response to Flippa.
You know, he talked around it and TV. This is
no dis I don't want people to talk and shit
da da da.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I'm not even gonna talk about it.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
You don't have to, you don't have to say nothing.
We're not going to kick a man first off the bat,
it's an hour.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
We're not going to kick a man when he's down.
Stay tuned, Wendy. How did they get to released if
they were Turtleboy? Okay, so Turtle Boy went around with
these recordings. He was playing them for Meredith O'Neill, his
ex girlfriend, at lunch when he went to lunch with her,
(36:21):
these recordings got sent. My theory on it is and
it's also innocent fraudwatchers. Theory is that he probably sent
them to David Yannetti and Alan Jackson and somehow this
recording got around. Karen Reid probably sent it. And even
(36:41):
if it was a thirty minute she sent this thirty
minute clip. Even if it you know, it's not gonna
have anything super criminal or she's not going to release
anything that's super criminal. And even if she did, I mean,
listen to her supporters say. I mean, they're recognize that
she's a criminal. I mean, did you not hear them say, well,
(37:03):
it could be really bad for her, could get her
in a lot of trouble. Not like she's going to
be framed. It's her own behavior and her own actions
and the things that she's admitting to on this tape.
I mean, so much of these people who support innocence
fraud are just not team criminal. They hate the police.
(37:26):
They want to see a criminal get over on the government.
They're like, we got to protect this criminal. There's criminal stuff,
why would she release it? You know, a lot of
(37:48):
them have been imprisoned themselves, done time for disgusting a moral,
revolting predator things. That's team Karen Reid. Then there's some
really good people who just got fooled. I mean, don't forget,
(38:09):
don't dehumanize this everyone on the other side. So there's
good people just got fooled In every innocent fraud campaign.
There are good people who get folded for whatever reason.
I mean, it's I mean, if you're just lazy thinking
(38:33):
and not really looking at the facts of the case,
you could be like, well, why would these YouTube lawyers
they're actually lawyers, support a murderer because they don't care.
They want the clicks, they want the view, they want
the money, they want the power. That's why they wouldn't
support someone who's guilty. Yes, these experts, Yes, for the
(38:55):
right price. Yes, they'll say what you want them to say. Yeah,
those experts who come out in supportive killers, I used
to find them very convincing.
Speaker 8 (39:10):
At forty five minutes in.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Don't don't you know? Can't It's a logical fallacy to
just appeal to authority. I mean, that's the This is
the new line of free Karen Reid. I hadn't been
I had taken a break from free Karen Reid. I
hadn't dipped my toe into the waters and a little while,
but I came back. And the new line of free
Karen Reid is they're really two that I hear a lot.
(39:36):
One is Karen Reid was acquitted twice. That's double jeopardy.
She wasn't acquitted twice. She got a hung jury, which
is a loose for both sides. So it's a draw,
total draw. So it's you get a do over, okay,
And she was acquitted of the most serious charges, but
(39:59):
she still was con OUI And there's a lot of
guilty people who are acquitted O. J. Simpson, Casey Anthony.
I put Karen Read into that category, but not because
of that. The evidence is so hard to suss out,
just because of this innocence fraud campaign and a very
(40:21):
weak judge who let the court of public opinion and
this innocence fraud campaign totally flood the courtroom. Literally literally
when the verdict came in, the outside was flooding into
the courtroom. So yeah, I'm not gonna, uh stay on
(40:41):
here too long. But does anyone else have anything else
to say before I go? Yeah, I don't know, Carol.
And you know, these these rumors go around that get
started could be true, you could be totally right on.
(41:06):
But like I said, you know, Kevin Lenihan started this
rumor that I was somehow I had a secret life,
a secret identity on the internet is innocence Fraud Watch,
because I talk about innocence fraud on this channel, and
(41:28):
because it was useful to him to turn people against
me and say that I'm dishonest with my audience. I
mean they I still get free care readers who are like,
you know, ifw blah blah blah meaning Innocence FraudWatch. So
(41:48):
I mean, or that I've been called other people that
I'm secretly running other accounts. I have one account one thing.
You'll know it when it's me because it'll have my
name on it. So you see, Yeah, I mean he
(42:12):
didn't care if it was true or not. I mean,
when I released a tape of Innocent FraudWatch saying I'm
not Roberta clearly in an accent, it's not American, it
was just ignored. And so now Turtle Boy is going
on this and using it, so these things get yeah used. Yeah,
(42:40):
I agree with you, Carolyne. He has no problem going
after people and causing trouble and unrest and free Karen
read when it's useful for him. But he would like
(43:04):
his dishonesty in his accusations at the people who were
telling the truth to be forgotten. I mean, it's not
just that he denied it, it's that he accused the
people saying it of being liars when he was the liar.
Let's just call it like it like it is, Hey,
(43:28):
dark Side. Yeah, I remember with dark Side used to
leave these like pro Stephen Avery who messages, I mean
the fierce defenders. Every Nice people get fooled in this.
Good people get fooled in this. I've been fooled by
(43:50):
innocent fraud campaigns. Hopefully not anymore. Once you see the pattern,
it's hard not to see it again. But I certainly
was fooled by a few of them. You were due
favor too, Ruthling. I don't mean to call you out
or dark Side, but you know we've all been there. Yeah,
(44:23):
why is the vile of blood? Blah blah blah blah blah.
You know, all right, all right, guys, Brave New World.
This totally reminds me of to so be a novel,
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with visuals. So I thought it was an important interview
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Yeah, just to be clear, you didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
You all know if John was beaten up and attacked
in that house, who did it?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We don't know. We don't know, and it's not for
us to know.
Speaker 5 (00:17):
Somebody other than Karen. Somebody other than Karen is responsible
for that, for the killing of John.
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nurse Naven Hello, Hello Hello. So Turtlegate continues on. So
(01:53):
when I'm talking about Turtlegate, I feel like I'm just
relaying gossip at this point. But it is important as
to you know, the unity of free Karen Reid and
how they're going to go and deal with the civil trial.
(02:13):
If this is gonna if this innocent fraud campaign is
going to come into the civil trial. If it does,
they don't have a choice, really a chance. If you know,
someone reminded me yesterday that this judge says he's going
to get off this case. He's circling out of this case.
Which I had that fear, which was so odd watching
the watching the civil hearing. So, is this judge is
(02:40):
going to be very good and he's only going to
be at the beginning for a very short period of
time and then we're going to get another judge, Canoni
coming in? Is this what's going to happen? And apparently
it is. Apparently he's circling out. By the time this
goes to trial, he will not be the judge. Hey, Monica,
(03:03):
So if you don't know what Turtlegate is, Aiden Carney
got accused of tapping Karen Reid's phone calls by Karen Reid.
Karen Reid put this out in a text message to
a guy Nick from Philadelphia, also goes by the name
Joe Flipperhead. I'm gonna just call him Joe Flipperhead because
(03:27):
it's easier for me. So Joe Flipperhead. This got around
and you can see the text messages. Joe Flippers had says, Hey,
do you want this out?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Karen Reid said, I've had it. I've had it with Aiden.
He's done it too many times. He's put me in
Ham's way. This is this is a this isn't word
for word, but it's, you know, the gist of what
she said. So many times he's put me in Ham's way.
This is the final draw. He taped my phone calls
(04:03):
without my knowing, and then this phone then this taped
recording of the two of them talking strangely. She says,
a random person said it, but was it really Aiden
Carter himself? Who sent it to Alan Jackson and David
(04:23):
Ynetti Karen Reids lawyers. So this phone call of Karen
Reid and Aiden Carter screaming at each other, going back
and forth, and they've been selected anyway, screaming back and
forth at each other, getting ahead of myself and landed
(04:45):
in the says Karen Reid, landed in her lawyer's office.
So Free Karen Readers were asking about this. There was
a spaces on X, which is like an audio hangout
on X with Free Karen Readers and Aiden Carney joined,
and he was screaming and swearing that at this allegation
(05:09):
that he recorded Karen Reid's and he said, there's no recording.
If there's a recording, bring it. You know, you have
no receipts. You have no receipts, he said, or recites
he said, so he called it. I mean, just swearing
up and down that these recordings didn't exist, and they
(05:30):
have been selectively leaked strangely in ways that would make
Karen Reid look good. If you're more astute and you've
been living on planet Earth for a long time, you
also might notice that it sounds like two criminals talking
(05:53):
to each other. I didn't do anything. I mean, what
does everyone say when they get arrested? I didn't do
any I didn't do anything. Fuck And did you notice, also,
by the way, that she was asked by the press
to make a statement to the prosecution and she said,
(06:13):
you lost noticed she didn't say I didn't do it.
Wouldn't that be the first thing you say, is like
I didn't do it, I didn't do this crime. I
didn't do this kind of rhyme I would be saying,
I would be screaming, I did not kill John O'Keefe,
and it was outrageous that this killer. Do you notice
that the real killers or killers are still out there?
(06:36):
And Karen Reid is what selling her book deal and
hanging out at her parents' house, She's strangely not looking
for the real killers of her boyfriend of two years?
Does anyone else find that strange? So she put out
this now Free Karen Reid. So she put out this
tape and when it came out, Aidan Carney did a
(06:58):
live let's take a look at it just a little bit.
I won't for you with all of it. This is
episode eight one one where he says, and you know,
(07:18):
he's kind of right. I mean, what Free Karen Reid
has is the ability to not criticize other Free Karen
readers when their behavior is totally immoral, off the charts.
It's all so because they're far for morality is so low,
(07:38):
they don't really criticize each other. So they were really
a like an unbreakable unit going into both these trials
Free Karen read There wasn't a lot. There was maybe
little tips, but not a lot of inviting because they
don't when there's bad behavior, it just doesn't get called
(08:01):
out whereas our side was not unified and was cliquish,
and I mean, I think I dealt with some of
the worst treatment from this side. So but here he says,
(08:24):
it's a psychop. It's a psychop, guys. So the conspiracy
theory mindset is really key in these innocent fraud campaigns.
It's very necessary because you have to believe that something
extremely like, so improbable and unlikely happened while ignoring the
(08:44):
things that are right in front of your eyes. On
most innocent fraud campaigns, there are some that are a
little bit more slight and more believable, but most of
them are ask you to avert your eyes at the
really serious evidence.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
And it's like, bro, this is all a fucking ssiop.
This is all a distraction.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
We'll call it a psychop a SiO. Yeah, a psychop.
It's a psycho. It kind of is. It's my own
new word for it. It's an op by psychopaths kind
of is. I don't know, uh so, Karen read so basically,
what's happened lately is you know, I'll feel you on
what's happening lately. But let's go just like bit by bit.
(09:35):
But he's like so does he come out and say, like,
I'm really sorry I lied to all of you. It's
just like, you know I'm gonna lie. You know I'm
gonna lie. I'm gonna lie and accuse other people of
lying and swearing at you and calling you the worst
things imaginable just to cover up something I don't want
(09:59):
out there to protect my lie. And then when he
gets caught, he's like, mmm, let's all be unified, guys.
Come bay yah, kumbaya.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
My lord.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's like, let's all old dance and sing kumbayah. All right,
here we go.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Do not let these bad faith actors change the fucking
subject and cause division when we need to be united.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Period.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
That's it, like the think the battle's over, You think
it's fucking over now. I got one hundred five years
in jail potentially ahead of me. Right, John o'keith doesn't
have justice yet, right, be weak.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Thanks to you guys, Thanks to you guys, and never
will really, I mean, at least in the criminal chords. Yeah,
it's right around the corner. The Feds something the Feds.
Other people look the other way. Someone else. It's Jen McCabe.
It's not Jen McCabe. It's Brian Higgins. It's not Brian Higgins,
(11:07):
it's someone else. It's the police, it's Proctor with absolutely
no time to plan anything. Anyone but Karen Reid. It's
just not Karen Reid.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Guys, fury of anyone trying to sew division right now, period,
and I'm not feeding into it. I appreciate the turtle chats,
but as of right now, I don't feel it's responsible
for me to continue to you know, inflame or kind
of like get the flames going anymore.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
We do the opposite, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Right, nobody's asking him to inflame, sow the flames. Just
how about apologize for lying to your audience. Clearly there
was a tape. I don't take any responsibility for my behavior,
and I need you guys all when I'm facing one
hundred and five. I don't think he knows and I know,
(12:06):
and I feel like realistic people watching this case know
that he's not facing He's not going to do any
prison time, jail time, I don't think so, I'm not
convinced of it. I'd be very surprised if he did
any jail time at all on these charges. I mean,
they're really like above the law. At this point, Karen
(12:27):
Reid is so popular in that area, it's like they're
above the law. And he says that on another live
he's like, I told Karen, they're not going to indict
you on anything. They're not gonna my charges aren't going anywhere.
So now he's playing victim like I could be in prison,
a political prisoner.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Guys Olivia's Ghost Tour sends ten box and goes that
sounds as legitimate as a ring camera footage of Karen
running over John O'Keeffe. We are with you, Doc, Either
produce it or shut up.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Again. This is like, I appreciate the sport.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
I don't want to like turtle chats to like call
out specific people and start shit.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm not I get it. I get why people. I
appreciate the support I do. I do appreciate the support.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
I'm just not looking to feed the flames tonight, if
you know what I mean, and that's my decision. You
can call me whatever you want for that, but it's
just not what I'm doing tonight.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
So I appreciate the support.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
They go on to say that these motherfuckers have lost
their mind and I'm sorry you're dealing with all this
love you well, I appreciate that Olivia's ghost tour, and honestly.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Today I wasn't heay.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
I didn't tweet all day today because I spent the
day watching the New England Patriots fucking murder the Carolina Panthers,
and I love.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm sorry you're dealing with the consequences of your line
and your bad behavior dropping draw uh secretly recording people,
and it sound to me, it sounds like it's some
kind of blackmail, like I believe Aidan Carney has probably
(14:15):
sent that recording to David Yanetti and Alan Jackson reminding
him that he's got the goods, and Karen Reid, because
I'm sure the more damning parts of that audio are
are will not be released to the public, only the
parts that Karen Reid approves. So let me play you
(14:36):
just It's a very short one, but there is a
new wire tap out this then they say they're may
be more released.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Had to deal with I didn't hang up with him
and tell you to fuck off.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I didn't hang up on you and tell you to
fuck off. It's not one of my tantrums. There's that.
There's this also, this one was on X. Hold on
one second, seriously, let's have a conversation.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Right I tell you, Karen Verbert, you leave without the story.
Let's have this conversation. Seriously, Let's have a conversation right
until you, as Karen Verbert, you beleeve without the story.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You noticed that you said I didn't just report, you
know where my reporting? Hold on second, my boyfriend wants
(15:50):
me to make the audio slower, so I will here
it is slowed down a bit.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Karen Verberts, your leave without the story. Let's have this conversation. Seriously,
Let's have this conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Okay, it's not a it's not a barn burner. But
so you notice he says, where would you be without
this story? Not that I just followed the facts. I
reported your life accurately. It's where would you be without
(16:24):
this story that I made up? You'd be in prison.
It's what he's saying. If people actually just follow the
facts of the case and not all the stuff that
I made up, and somehow we had this weak judge
Canoni allowed all this nonsense to be brought into court,
(16:47):
you'd be in prison. That's what he's saying. So ironically,
are they met at at aiden Carney, their leaderless leader.
Not really who were they mad at. They're mad at
Joe Flipp her head for releasing the for doing what
(17:08):
Karen wanted to do and releasing the audio. We don't
know my father's alibi. We don't know, hey, Allison, we
don't know when these calls were. It sounds like after
(17:31):
they took her phone, but maybe it was. She said
to you know how much they have on my phones,
But she also won't give the password. They still can't
get into her phones. She did the same thing in
her criminal case. She refused to give them the password,
so they have to break in. Took eighteen months to
break into her phone, and so now they have these
two phones because she's not doing anything shady. But she said,
(17:56):
you know what's on those phones. They can't break into them.
They're still trying to break into them. So that may
be the difference of indicting her in some kind of
I don't know, federal conspiracy. If they can actually break
into her phones, I don't know. It seems like the
FBI could do that pretty easily, I thought, But maybe
(18:18):
I'm wrong on that. She put a six digit Maestro
says she put a six digit passcode on them too.
Is that harder to break into? I guess so than
a smaller one. I mean, is it a guest? I mean,
is there a machine that can just guess six digit
(18:38):
passcodes forever and ever? Like AI Good? I don't know.
I don't know anything about hacking into someone cell phone.
So the reaction is they're all mad. I mean, this
may not be a very long one, but just to
keep you updated on what's going on, is this the end?
(19:05):
I have a feeling that, see they keep the the
really serious players and Joe it may be the end
of Joe Flipperhead. So they're all mad at Joe Flipperhead.
As witnessed on the JFK Show, this is like the
after party after you've watched Turtle Boy. You have another show,
(19:25):
you can watch the after show. Check out what they
had to say.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Call me on channel three.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Turn up to walk you talking?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Listen if you think this is the problem with these
fucking people, if you think Karen Reid didn't kill John O'Keeffe,
and what the fuck is the beef about? By putting
shit out like that? Now, now the text the recording
that I thought I thought it was something else. I
thought it could have been anything. This recording is basically
getting them caught up in some criminal ship, you know
(19:56):
what I mean?
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Absolutely so if you think, if you think, if you
think that you let me shut my camera off while
I talk this shit. If you think Karen is innocent,
then why even put that out? You know what I'm saying, James,
Like you feel what I'm saying, right, Like? What's that doing?
So you want her to get in trouble? You want?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I mean that's why you've got to raise. And what
I was gonna say too, is it's only gonna raise
if it doesn't get her hemmed up. It's only gonna
raise you know, our ears to these law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay. For whatever reason, Karen Reid wanted to make it
look like she had it with Aiden Turtle Boy Carney.
She wants it out. She wants to make a public break.
Whether she she's done this before where she said she's
had a public break and she clearly hasn't. For whatever reason,
right now she feels it's important to say she's had
(20:55):
a public break. I don't think these two can ever
really break up because they just don't care enough. If
it's useful to them, they'll come back together. So for
whatever reason, Karen Reid wants this to come out, that
(21:16):
she's publicly throwing Turtle Boy to the curb, tossing him
to the curb, and that he recorded her, and to
have people I don't know, maybe she knows that pre
Karen Reid won't turn on Turtle Boy, but it's so
funny that they're like, what's the point. Obviously Karen Reid
doesn't think she's releasing anything that will get her in
(21:38):
any kind of criminal trouble. So that's why, I mean,
if you mean we could she's not admitting to any crimes,
but she's you know, she's clearly panicked. I mean, the
most damning one is she said, do you know what
they had? What I had on my phone? She never
(22:00):
says it's criminal. It could be something sentimental. She could say,
did they think like a criminal? Could be my friend's
baby pictures, grandkid pictures. I don't know. She sure is
panicked about it, but she asked for all these and
(22:22):
I'm sure she handpicked all this audio to be released.
They can't even seem to follow the I mean, makes
sense as to why they're free care readers. They can't
seem to follow the timeline at all of events.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Agencies too want to keep that phone and say did
we miss anything? Give it another sweep because you never know, man,
I mean, you just don't double down on something that
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But then again another sweep. No no, no, no no no.
James Jackson, they're talking about the two phones that were
picked up and they tried to indict her on witness intimidation,
and the grand jury wouldn't indict her. That's how popular
she is in Massachusetts. They couldn't even indict her with
(23:17):
lots of evidence of witness intimidation and conspiracy between her
and Aiden Carney. She had two phones. They picked them up,
but they couldn't get into her phones, but there was
other stuff that they They can't get into those phones.
Is my understanding? Correct me if I'm wrong. I mean
(23:37):
that's what they're saying in the If you read the
moving papers in this case, I mean the court documents,
the things that the Cosgrove is submitting. He's saying he
can't get into these. He's still trying to get into
these phones of Karen's. So these aren't phones that she
(24:07):
had when the phone she had when John O'Keefe that
she also tried to keep away that she that they
watched go what No, that's the you know that she
also went in hand over and had to wait for
her remember what she had to wait for her father.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
But I guess what they're trying to do is they're
trying to show everybody that Karen right, is Karen okay?
And this ship? Why would Karen want that out there?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I think Karen wanted out there like that there was
some other ship going on behind the scenes with her
on TV. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Mean you mean to tell me Karen Reid wanted her
in a panic, screaming it's dangerous, They're dangerous. She wanted
to show how like okay, if look, I'm a past him, Mike,
Why would she want that out there? You heard the recorder?
Why would she want that out there? Like, I don't understand,
Like what so she just wants everybody to know that
he's shady.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It sounds like yeah, for whatever reason, she thinks it's
helpful to her to make a public break with him
because he's also facing uh to distance herself as his
charges for witness intimidation or in the press. I don't
think anything's gonna happen with him. That's where I'm at.
(25:35):
Seems pretty logical to me. How's everybody else Where's everybody
else at on this? I don't know. They're they're they're
bewildered by this. I mean, just to remind you, hold on,
let me pull them up. I'll be putting these new
ones up as shorts. I'm just keeping a record of them.
(26:00):
Short section so have also been criticized by Karen read
by putting up these recordings. It's nice to have a
record of them somewhere now on YouTube. Well, thank you
(26:20):
to the house.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And then you want me in the telly again again?
Speaker 6 (26:25):
You have any school was on.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
My phone that they took I want to do. I
paid the price for that.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
You didn't I enjoying it?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I enjoyed.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Do you like honestly believe that I've like the one
point one billions dollars if your legal of the French form.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
But you needed that right?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Where the do you think that came from?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Horse?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
There was partly to do with Lindsay.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
And I paid the price for that.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I had in there for six days.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And then that's not the narrative your narrative is I
want to feel for Karen and he doesn't thank me.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
No, I did go to life, was arrested for Karen Reid.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
That's a fact.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
And I nearly got indicted with you, Aiden, I nearly.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Went with you house.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
That's what I.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Said, and saved your credibility.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I gave you the story, and I have backed up
everything I've never told you. I know you're taking a
Twitter house.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
That's what I.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Said, right.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It came really from the mind of Natalie bern Schneider uwiki,
the middle woman started creating this fantastical tale conspiracy. I
gave you the story. I fed you the story, I
fed you the documents that you could you could write
(27:52):
a fantastical fantasy. Oh you think that, Oh here's the
conspiracy theory. You think that Olivia Lamb or Lambeau on
(28:16):
X's having some kind of online romance with Joe Flipperhead.
This isn't the real Karen. Certainly sounds like the real Karen.
She's managed to recreate her language perfectly. Yeah, Aiden records everything.
(28:39):
I highly doubt this is the only time he recorded
their call. Beverly Lawyer one sodium penthethal Maybe truth serum
give them all some truth serum, you say, get to.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
The real.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh really, Flipperhead admitted today Karen Reid did not send
it or tell flipper had admitted Karen REI did not
down to release the recordings. It's hard to know what
the truth is, isn't it? You see protecting Karen Reid.
(29:20):
They will all protect the Queen Bee. Thanks Carol for
fluing me on a nut. I miss that. Hard to know.
Hard to know. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense either
(29:48):
to me, because let's remember back, Hold on one second,
let me go to all the things I saved here.
Remember when Karen Reid shouted out, Joe Flipperhead, Well, but
(30:10):
let me go back, Joe is it Joe Flipperheader?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Alan Everson flip ahead.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Right now, right now? Thank you, Joe, Thanks for your support.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Thank you, Karen, No doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Joe is it Joel? Wasn't this when she was comparing
her cause to Vietnam?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
So? Is that?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
What else do I have for you?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It was like less than forty eight hours that he
got He got totally totally burnt in his lie that
he doesn't work. He recorded things. I mean, you can
go back to my episode A couple of days ago,
and just the audio and the venom he was. It
(31:35):
really sounded like a kid lying to me, where's the tape?
Where's the tape? Show the receipts? You're e fin lying?
I mean their mouth on these people?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Hi, So.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
These people are just you know, the pre carent readers
are just.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
But if that's well, if that's what wanted, I'm sorry, James.
For somebody to want that, I gotta shut you down.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Bro, you're coming in loud, my bad.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
For somebody to want that information out there, yeah, that
would be shady on their half, because why would you
want to put this out there? You don't know the
ship storm it's about to cause. And look what it
did now. Now now it's kind of affecting your image.
So was it a good move? Probably not. Is it
going to age? Well absolutely not. So I don't know why.
(32:34):
I don't know why she would want that out there,
and just.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
To be just to prove to everybody that Turtle Boy
is reckless.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Yeah, I think so, or to prove that she's not heartless,
you know, because a lot of people are giving her
ship saying you O TV this and you O TV that.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
I mean, she could have went about it in a
different way. She could have just jumped on a stream
and just said, listen, absolutely, I got love for TV.
He helped me, we were friends. We're not seeing either
eye right now. I love all you guys. I'll see you.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
I'll see.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Flipper is saying, Okay, here more confusion from Karen Reid.
Joe is saying, simply saying, it's not Karen herself who
leaked the cause clearly not. Ye asked her, do you
want me to leak the calls? And she said yeah,
And I'm sure he didn't. Just he didn't pick them.
(33:25):
I'm sure Karen Reid picked it. He's not questioning if
they are authentic. Oh, I'm not questioning if they're authentic.
Did you think that's what I was saying? I thought
she meant it was a fake Karen. He got catfished.
He's not okay, he's not questioned, right, He's not questioning
(33:47):
the certainly seemed like the way Karen talked. I don't
know that's the way she talks and writes. If you've
looked at her, looked at all the text messages between
herself and other people that have been released, does anybody
have anything else Sam and keep it short today. I mean,
(34:11):
we can watch maybe a little bit more of this,
but I'm not gonna keep going for forever. It's just
this is really just a little update up, a little
uppy daity.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
And that could have been it over wit done with.
Come on stop. I mean this this seems crazy, man, this,
this is this is crazy. I mean, like I said,
I never thought the context of it was gonna be
that that shit sounded like that sounded like, you know,
the Feds are outside and there's a key in the house,
you know, right Like it sounded like, you know, like
they know they got polos in.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
The bag and ship and then and then what I
got from it too was.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You'd like to say that Karen Reid is a killer. Okay,
I agree with that. I can't disagree with that. I
feel the same way. Uh beach Nance says Karen is
smarter than Turtle. What these psychopaths are. They get a
lot of credit for being like super smart. What they
(35:14):
are is cunning and calculated more than like extreme brains.
I'd say she's a whack job, but it's fun to
watch these guys try to puzzle it out. Why would
she want that out?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
There.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Why would she want that out there? Guys, I'm in
the mood today. I've been funny mood today.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Almost the same thing we got from his response to Flippa.
You know, he talked around it and TV. This is
no dis I don't want people to talk and shit
da da da.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I'm not even gonna talk about it.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
You don't have to, you don't have to say nothing.
We're not going to kick a man first off the bat,
it's an hour.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
We're not going to kick a man when he's down.
Stay tuned, Wendy. How did they get to released if
they were Turtleboy? Okay, so Turtle Boy went around with
these recordings. He was playing them for Meredith O'Neill, his
ex girlfriend, at lunch when he went to lunch with her,
(36:21):
these recordings got sent. My theory on it is and
it's also innocent fraudwatchers. Theory is that he probably sent
them to David Yannetti and Alan Jackson and somehow this
recording got around. Karen Reid probably sent it. And even
(36:41):
if it was a thirty minute she sent this thirty
minute clip. Even if it you know, it's not gonna
have anything super criminal or she's not going to release
anything that's super criminal. And even if she did, I mean,
listen to her supporters say. I mean, they're recognize that
she's a criminal. I mean, did you not hear them say, well,
(37:03):
it could be really bad for her, could get her
in a lot of trouble. Not like she's going to
be framed. It's her own behavior and her own actions
and the things that she's admitting to on this tape.
I mean, so much of these people who support innocence
fraud are just not team criminal. They hate the police.
(37:26):
They want to see a criminal get over on the government.
They're like, we got to protect this criminal. There's criminal stuff,
why would she release it? You know, a lot of
(37:48):
them have been imprisoned themselves, done time for disgusting a moral,
revolting predator things. That's team Karen Reid. Then there's some
really good people who just got fooled. I mean, don't forget,
(38:09):
don't dehumanize this everyone on the other side. So there's
good people just got fooled In every innocent fraud campaign.
There are good people who get folded for whatever reason.
I mean, it's I mean, if you're just lazy thinking
(38:33):
and not really looking at the facts of the case,
you could be like, well, why would these YouTube lawyers
they're actually lawyers, support a murderer because they don't care.
They want the clicks, they want the view, they want
the money, they want the power. That's why they wouldn't
support someone who's guilty. Yes, these experts, Yes, for the
(38:55):
right price. Yes, they'll say what you want them to say. Yeah,
those experts who come out in supportive killers, I used
to find them very convincing.
Speaker 8 (39:10):
At forty five minutes in.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Don't don't you know? Can't It's a logical fallacy to
just appeal to authority. I mean, that's the This is
the new line of free Karen Reid. I hadn't been
I had taken a break from free Karen Reid. I
hadn't dipped my toe into the waters and a little while,
but I came back. And the new line of free
Karen Reid is they're really two that I hear a lot.
(39:36):
One is Karen Reid was acquitted twice. That's double jeopardy.
She wasn't acquitted twice. She got a hung jury, which
is a loose for both sides. So it's a draw,
total draw. So it's you get a do over, okay,
And she was acquitted of the most serious charges, but
(39:59):
she still was con OUI And there's a lot of
guilty people who are acquitted O. J. Simpson, Casey Anthony.
I put Karen Read into that category, but not because
of that. The evidence is so hard to suss out,
just because of this innocence fraud campaign and a very
(40:21):
weak judge who let the court of public opinion and
this innocence fraud campaign totally flood the courtroom. Literally literally
when the verdict came in, the outside was flooding into
the courtroom. So yeah, I'm not gonna, uh stay on
(40:41):
here too long. But does anyone else have anything else
to say before I go? Yeah, I don't know, Carol.
And you know, these these rumors go around that get
started could be true, you could be totally right on.
(41:06):
But like I said, you know, Kevin Lenihan started this
rumor that I was somehow I had a secret life,
a secret identity on the internet is innocence Fraud Watch,
because I talk about innocence fraud on this channel, and
(41:28):
because it was useful to him to turn people against
me and say that I'm dishonest with my audience. I
mean they I still get free care readers who are like,
you know, ifw blah blah blah meaning Innocence FraudWatch. So
(41:48):
I mean, or that I've been called other people that
I'm secretly running other accounts. I have one account one thing.
You'll know it when it's me because it'll have my
name on it. So you see, Yeah, I mean he
(42:12):
didn't care if it was true or not. I mean,
when I released a tape of Innocent FraudWatch saying I'm
not Roberta clearly in an accent, it's not American, it
was just ignored. And so now Turtle Boy is going
on this and using it, so these things get yeah used. Yeah,
(42:40):
I agree with you, Carolyne. He has no problem going
after people and causing trouble and unrest and free Karen
read when it's useful for him. But he would like
(43:04):
his dishonesty in his accusations at the people who were
telling the truth to be forgotten. I mean, it's not
just that he denied it, it's that he accused the
people saying it of being liars when he was the liar.
Let's just call it like it like it is, Hey,
(43:28):
dark Side. Yeah, I remember with dark Side used to
leave these like pro Stephen Avery who messages, I mean
the fierce defenders. Every Nice people get fooled in this.
Good people get fooled in this. I've been fooled by
(43:50):
innocent fraud campaigns. Hopefully not anymore. Once you see the pattern,
it's hard not to see it again. But I certainly
was fooled by a few of them. You were due
favor too, Ruthling. I don't mean to call you out
or dark Side, but you know we've all been there. Yeah,
(44:23):
why is the vile of blood? Blah blah blah blah blah.
You know, all right, all right, guys, Brave New World.
This totally reminds me of to so be a novel,
a Brave New Heart or Brave New World. Hey, Lucy R,
thanks for becoming a member. Appreciate it. Thank you to
(44:47):
everybody who shared the last episodes. It really makes a
huge difference. I really appreciate everyone who shared the episodes.
It really helps people find me and get the word out.
I'm a small channel and I super appreciate it, so
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thanks so much for listening. I'll be back tomorrow at six.
Have a great night everybody. That is that is all
the news that's fit to print with Turtlegate. I'll have
shorts coming out soon with the audio for you if
you want to check them out. I released and also
there was a short like five minute clip. I'm going
(45:32):
to be doing that with Brendan's interview, just releasing it
in you know parts and short parts and as videos
with visuals. So I thought it was an important interview
and want to get the message out how I can,
so check that out. That's also my channel released today.
(45:54):
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