August 5, 2025 • 79 mins
Lawyer Tim Jansen is reporting that Donna Adeldon turned down a sweet plea deal that gave Adelson time served for implicating her daughter Wendi Adelson in the murder for hire plot that killed Wendi Adelson’s ex-husband, Florida State University law professor, Dan Markel. In this episode, I’ll explain why this should surprise no one who has been following this case. What does this plea offer say about the State’s confidence of a conviction going into Donna Adelson’s August 19th trial?
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Hello Kitties nineteen ninety three. Hello Debbie Martin, Hello Lourie,
Hello Mia Wallace, Hello dark Side of the Moon. Thanks
for joining me. I wanted to talk with you guys
today about Donna Edleson and what has been leaked out
(02:41):
by lawyer Tim Janssen last night on STS and that
is that and I actually, well let's let's watch it together,
shall we. Let's actually hear it from the horse's mouth.
This is lawyer Tim Jansen, He's a Florida attorney, and
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he says he's gotten some secret news about a plea
deal offered to Donna Adelson. Take a listen, my check.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Roberta strides through the static case True Crime, got the
way the shadows play the place.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
This is much activate with go ahead to him.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
I wanted to break this. This is something I just
heard from a very good source. Donna was offered a
plea deal of time served if she gave up Wendy Well,
and she turned it down.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I mean, does that surprise anybody? I mean, the only
part that surprised me is that the state's attorney's office
once alson so badly, or that they feel like they
don't have enough evidence with the things that they have
(04:08):
to convict Wendy. I mean, that's what that will tell you, sadly,
is they don't feel confident about their chances to convict Wendy,
and they feel Wendy is the more culpable person in
this than Don Aedelson. Also, it worries me, and we're
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going to talk a little bit about the psychology behind it.
It worries me that maybe the state feels that they
are not in a good position going into Donna Hagelson's trial. Certainly,
we've seen a lot of acquittals of guilty people lately,
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and jurys have had decades and decades of innocence fraud. Media.
I mean they've consumed decades and decades lifetime of innocent fraud.
Documentaries have talked about when I was a juror last
year and the first vote was it was a child
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preditation case. First vote was eleven to one guilty. So
eleven of us gluting me thought the defendant was guilty
and one wanted to vote not guilty, and so we
turned this woman and right before we all agree, you know,
sign off on our verdict, a gentleman says, well, there's
(05:41):
lots of wrongful convictions, but I don't think this is
one of them. And I thought to myself, well, don't
you think every jury is convinced to that level before
they convict someone. You think that there's juries that are
unsure that are convicting someone on some such serious chart.
(06:01):
And I said, like, what like what like, let's let's
go through these because this is something that I've looked
at for over a decade. Now. Wait, before I had
my podcast and I go into the transcripts of these
famous because I figured the famous cases had to be
(06:24):
better cases than the others, and one is a more
obvious case of guilt than the next. Not saying that
wrongful convictions never happened, just saying that I think they're
very rare. But it seems like we're having more and
more jewelries that are refusing to convict anyone and are
this is this state feeling like it's not a good look,
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or a jey isn't going to think it's a good
look to convict a grandmother. This is why I say
that I've always felt Donna Aedelson is going to play
up her age because it's the best thing she has
as far as her innocence. Hey, Wesley loves october Fest.
Thanks for gifting ten very generous of you memberships. I
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really appreciate your support. Nice to see you. Those will
be handed out in random to the chat, to the
people in the chat, is my understanding. So what does
this say? First, I'm not convinced that this is about
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protecting Donna Adelson's family members. For me, the fact that
Donna Adelson turned this down is because she will never
admit guilt. She will never take a plea deal. She'd
rather go to prison for the rest of her life
and pretend to be a victim of a criminal justice
system run amok and the wild justice system they have
(08:00):
in Tallahassee. We've heard her on Charlie Aedelson's deall house
calls blaming Tallahassee over and over again. That Charlie Aedelson,
with all his money and with a jury consultant, I
consider him more like a used car salesman. But inno
(08:22):
since project ambassador so Josh Dupid, who I think is
a total fraudster, that's my opinion of him. I mean,
that guy has never met a criminal. He doesn't want
a free or a criminal he doesn't think is the
(08:45):
victim of some kind of injustice. So I think it's
more about the fact that Donna Edelson, so this would
have seen her do no time whatsoever. So time served,
So the time she did in jail, couple years in
jail is good enough for a murder instead of doing life.
(09:06):
I mean, it's a pretty sweetheart deal. Now we know
Charlie Adelson was offered some kind of deal before his
trial and he turned it down. But I don't know
what he was offered. It couldn't have been this sweet
a deal. I mean, it tells you that they think
Wendy is the mastermind behind this murder for ire of
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Dan Markel, Wendy Adelson's ex husband, Dan Markel. And they
also feel that they after Donna, they don't have enough
evidence to convict Wendy. That's what it tells me. But
as far as Donna ever saying that she is responsible,
(09:49):
she'd rather go to prison for the die in prison
than admit that her family was a part of a
criminal plot. And when I say her family, I'm talking
about everyone but Robert Adelson. Of course, her daughter Wendy
Aedelson and her husband Harvey Aedelson are unindicted co conspirators
(10:09):
in this case. She would she doesn't want to go
home to Miami or even retire to some even a
non extradition country like she was traveling to when she
got arrested on a one way ticket and retire there
(10:30):
and have a reputation of being a killer. And I
don't think she can admit it. Admit it to her.
She knows she did it, but the narcissism is too strong.
She's not the type. Her family is has too good
(10:52):
a name to be involved in something so evil, she'll
never go down. I mean, I'm not surprised. So they
could have offered her any kind of plea deal, didn't
have to involve her family members, and she never would
have taken it. This is not a family that's going
to accept plea deals. And this is the kind of
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thinking they feel. The case against them is ridiculous. And
then and I think she thinks that she's smarter than
the state. Well we all know how that turned out.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Ditto.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Charlie Aedelson felt the same way, and we saw how
that turned out for him. So I think people are
confused because they know that things are on the rocks
between Donna Aedelson and Wendy Aedelson. And how do they
know that, well from this prison call that this is
(11:49):
really the call that got Donna Aedelson arrested. Let's take
a listen to it. So they call dropped, or Donna
Edelson thought the call dropped, but it was still being recorded,
so Charlie Adelson couldn't hear her, but they but this,
but the prison sure, the jail Leon County jail recording
(12:11):
was still going on. They could still hear her. And
this is what they caught on tape. Take listen.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
And thanks very much. Okay, because what I don't want
to you know what I want to.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Do, but.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
I think I LOSELF.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I can't. I can't. I'm not that strong.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So she's saying, I rather go down, lie down, and
end it all then live with the fact that Charlie
Adelson her sons is now serving a life sentence in
prison for something he hasn't done. Lol. So very much
(13:30):
the language of the wrongful conviction movement. They always hear
these guilty people say I was convicted for a crime
I didn't commit and claim or people have had their
convictions overturned who claim their axoneries say I was convicted
(13:50):
charged with the crime they didn't commit. Very much. So
here's Todd echoing that language but saying it's not She's
just gonna down. That was her one option. The other
option was gonna fly to a non extradition a country
without an extradition treaty with America. That's what she chose instead.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
And I also know how Key is a year and
his body and everything just slowly started to deteriorate.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Ow I a great marriage, happy was good, it was brilliant,
not unhappy, and I'm one of willing to just say goodby.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
It doesn't panful. We've worked sanitary property a couple of
months ago.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
We're good, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
A wented to this weekend because I had said something.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
That made her feel like I had enough and enough
going to watch.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Well, I know what I need to do now something
because she's never once doesn't come over, I need to.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So now they're talking about Wendy. Wendy's never once come
over and said I just need to talk to you.
So here is the rift between Donna and Wendy exposed.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I'm a.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Big walk.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Mhm s sat down on the couch right there. I
needed to be here, And she didn't say.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
This is a horrible time for all of us. All
abribated but.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh yeah, Well, of course she didn't sit down on
the couch and say this is a terrible time for
all of us because the way this family was raised.
Now Robert Aidolson talks about this and he will be
this is the oldest son of Harvey. Sorry, I just
(16:13):
hit with my hand the controller for the air conditioning there,
did you guys hear that? So of course she didn't
sit down and say this is a horrible time for
all of us. So, of course, this is the way
that this family, these children have been raised. And I
(16:40):
point to the oldest son of Harvey and Donna Adelson,
Robert Aidolson, who removed himself from the family, exiled himself
after Dan Markel's murder after he surmised that the rest
of the family was responsible for this murder for hire.
He told a story about how when he got too
(17:04):
much change as a younger person in this family and
he returned it to the cash ear, they all made
fun of him and called them honest ape. So it's
very much a family of get what Everyone is sort
of out for themselves, get what you can. But the
(17:27):
family is also like a little bit like a gang
or a mafia, so they're all out for themselves, but
they do see themselves as a group. So that's the
way Donna and Harvey taught their children to be get
as much as you can get, give as little as possible.
Winning is everything, Money is everything. You got to be
(17:49):
a winner in life. Just push their children to succeed.
Succeeding and money is everything. Winning is everything. So of course,
when it comes time for the for comforting, the rest
of your family nowhere in sight. And Donna Adelson is
(18:16):
in no position to talk about Wendy Aedelson's insensitivity because
Donna and the Harvey looked after themselves first and never
attended Charlie's trial and said if they were on the
witness list for this state, and they said, we'll take
the fifth if you put us up on the stand.
(18:40):
So they didn't even attend that trial to support their
son going through it, and as soon as he got convicted,
they were out of there. They're like, we'll support you
from a non extradition country. Look after number one who
cares that Charlie Aedelson might need a lot of support
in prison and all he has left is his family
(19:02):
and a few friends. We're out of here.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
We're we're on a plate. We're out of here. Baby,
we'll make it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
This is this is the great mom.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
When she goes, Dan says, maybe we'll make it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But it's worth a try, It's worth a try.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
So just stat there, suicidal, I'm going to be correction.
I'm fine. The boys tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, I want to go to sleep and not see
my son. I do perfectly, honest, I do we.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Do it together.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Leave the note of know when to come in here
and we'll do it together.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
The boy.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It's not that she's so worried about her son in prison.
It's that it's deeply shameful to have a son in prison.
These you know, I've talked to people who knew this
family and they say this family was like always presented
as the perfect family, and they promoted that image. Now
(20:20):
they have a son who's convicted of murder, and what
are they gonna do. It's just furious shame. They can't
handle the shame. That's what this is about. It's not like, oh,
it's going to be so horrible. What a horrible life
for Charlie. Is that the real Adolson family has been exposed.
(20:45):
This is what she can't stand. So plead deal, plead deal,
nice tride. No Adolson will ever take a plea deal.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Well, I'm going to make a decision at some point
after speaking to dam this morning and knowing what they're
thinking up there, I don't know if we'll make it
out in time. It really don't then your mind, or
you might do all of it stick to the airport
and that could happen. It could happen. I don't know,
(21:18):
but it's worth to try it.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
I've tried and try to try. I don't know how
I love it, but I don't know what it's doing.
And we have.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
To do that stuff for rum and.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
That what was.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So these are just auto generated title uh subtitles. So
what they're talking about is putting things together for Rome
In which was Charlie Adelson's son, their grandson here putting
together things. While they're right, they're perfectly happy with. What's
(22:05):
so interesting is again which proves my point this crime.
One of the motivations for this crime was so that
Donna Adelson could raise her grandchildren, have total control over
in access to her grandchildren. But the minute that she
(22:31):
hears that she's going to be indicted by a grand jury,
she wants to be nowhere near her grandchildren. She's out
of there Vietnam. I mean, they would never be able
to come back see their grandchildren, see their daughter. All
these these are things that they say are so hugely
important to them, so hugely important that they must kill
(22:54):
Dan Markel, Wendy Aedelson's ex husband. I mean, this will
tell you that this is a crime about power and
control and not about loving the grandchildren. So much so
they would have. I mean as soon as they if
they had gotten on that flight, Scott Radius hadn't dropped
a dime on them. Is that, I don't know if
(23:16):
that's technically correct, drop a dime because they weren't they
were going to be arrested. H The rest got out
after he let the state know that they were going
to flee and avoid the So they hadn't been indicted
(23:38):
by the Grand Juri yet. I mean the idea is,
you know, the fleeing is that they were leaving before
they the indictment came down and before they could get arrested.
So as suit as Scott Radius dropped a you know,
a dime on them there they if they had got
if that hadn't happened and they actually got out of there,
(24:01):
they wouldn't have seen their grandchildren, their son, their daughter.
But they're being mad mad at Wendy for not coming around,
for protecting herself. I mean, talk about the pot calling
the cattle. I mean, people don't I point this out
very often. Then this is a family of every person
(24:23):
out for themselves.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Ohticulations friend in charge and.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Twelve and the.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Other and the three Yeah, somebody wanting so uh.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Would make some effort to respond that I could figure
with you would say, would you do that if I can't, because.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That was.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So to give you a little background, they had friends
over and they were just getting everything legally ready, trust
for Roman, making sure other people took care of their property,
everything was in order. One of the things that's going
to come in as evidence is down in Adelson's lists
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that she made to get everything closed down, basically closing
down their life in Miami and getting ready for their
life essentially as fugitives of the law. Not Harvey, but
Donna in Vietnam. I mean, I went over those communications
(26:12):
with Harvey and Scott Radius recently. You can see that
they're like, we don't know where we're going. They knew
where they were going, I'm pretty sure. I'm sure, pretty
sure they had a long term plan or an idea
of where they were going to settle down. They just
weren't telling anyone but Dan rash Baum, who would tell
Charlie and perhaps Wendy was on a need to know basis.
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That's my feelings.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So you tell me, George, I don't know how to
get in touch with them, So let me ask George.
So fond to her lawyer, and that's not about the case.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I have builties.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Sure, sure ye, And I said, I just got off
with trolley.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
He's worried about you.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
He wants to know what.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Oh yeah, you never.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
We know you never asked anything about your brother, and
she doesn't and she told me because her lawyer said
she shouldn't ask. But we found out it's not true.
But we just got off the phone with him. My attorney.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Was shocked.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
It was shocked that Wendy would lie. Wendy would lie
to her own mother, her own old.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Mother, she would lie. Shocking. So Wendy said said, look,
I just haven't been around because it's a I can't
talk to you. I can't be around you. My lawyer
told me not to talk to you. She wants to
remove herself as far from her family and he her
(28:00):
self as safe as possible. Means you don't forget that
Wendy's a lawyer.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
I never told her that, but I.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
No, So I wrote this last night. We know you
never asked anything about your brother.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So I assume that's John Laura. But why is John
Laura discussing what he's telling his client with I mean,
even with Donna and Harvey. I mean, he shouldn't really
be discussing any of that, should he.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
This is eight o'clock last night. But we just set
off the phone with him, and the first thing he
asked was, how's Wendy holding up. I didn't have the
heart to tell him that you never called up or
asked about him. I just said we weren't up the
phone calls right now. Everyone looks to protect you. I
bet you've got a lot to think about. But then she.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I mean pretty telling. I bet you got a lot
to think about. Everyone protects you. And we can go
back to that call, and there's an interesting part of
the call. Maybe I'll go over it in a live
stream soon. But in the call between one of the
(29:21):
post conviction calls between Charlie Adelson and Donna Adelson, Charlie
Adelson talks about how he was told by Michael Weinstein,
who was the great Weinstein family. His father, Michael Weinstein's
(29:41):
father was Wendy Aedelson's godfather. He was a state senator,
but told by Michael Weinstein to not say anything like
maybe Michael Weinstein tipped Charlie Adelson off that he shouldn't
be talking on the phone about anything, and he says,
like two days before. It's hard to put that exactly,
(30:03):
put a timeline into that exactly, but they had been
told I think that they might be surveilled where surveillance
was going on around the time of the bump, So
that puts it into context. Really, how loose their lips
(30:25):
really are, what bad criminals they really are. I mean,
if you're told don't talk on the phone, and Donna's like,
come by, well is it a you know, Charlie's playing
twenty questions, is it the irs? Is it someone else?
And they just can't help themselves. But on one of
(30:45):
these calls, when it asks about Wendy, you can hear
Donna go no, no, no, no, not about Wendy, not
about Wendy. I mean, the reaction is so over the top.
She protests too much. This is what she's talking about.
We all protected you and said you had no part
of it. They also said that about themselves. But there
(31:09):
are people out there that think that this family all
did this murder as a gift to Wendy, as if
that would ever happen in real life, as if they
would give her a gift that they weren't sure she
would like that they couldn't undo, like, oh wait, you
didn't want your ex husband Dan Markel murdered. Oh, we
(31:29):
did it as a gift to you. Oh wait, well
we can't really return it now, can't undo that gift.
And also they would have had to count on the
fact that Wendy wouldn't turn them all in. Wendy had
to be in on the planning. It is, unless you
live on planet Mars. In what world would a family
(31:53):
do this all behind someone's back, of family member's back?
Just not really realistic. But there are people who just
think she complained a lot about it and didn't know
wasn't really part of it. Now Harvey I don't think
was part of the planning because he's a hot ad.
But I think they all knew, minus Robert, they were
(32:16):
all part of it. They all agreed at some point,
and Donna took on the lion's share of the planning. Yes,
and Charlie.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
But then I got another call from Charlie night and
I said, just got off the phone with Charlie. He's
worried about you. He wants to know why we didn't speak.
I told him a lie, I said, we're only speaking
with you and jan right now. I couldn't bear to
tell him the truth. Your sister never even called us,
is the truth? So she said this morning. I thought
(32:49):
she'd be racing over here last night. Dear Mom, I
know you are upset by the verdict, but the anger
directed at me is not justified. I don't know how
much any of her.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I'm not responsible in any way for Charlie's situation. I
am not guilty because I did not do anything wrong,
and I was involved in any way with Danny's dipp
when I was interviewed by the police and testified.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
In court notice. She says, none of us were involved?
Is this? This is so Wendy, always the lawyer. I'm
not guilty. I was not involved. I'm not saying Charlie wasn't.
I'm not saying Charlie was wrongfully convicted. I'm not saying
you weren't involved, aren't involved. I'm just saving myself, not
(33:40):
even to say I know the truth. I know that
none of us were involved. She wouldn't even say that
knowing that this, I mean, she knowing that this might
land in a prosecutor's lap, which it did. Always protecting
number one, always were detecting Number one. Hey you'r latex Sbout.
(34:11):
It's nice to see you. I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Told the truth as I was required to do. I
cannot control how the prosecutor use my state with the
Troldish trial. Again, I didn't say that. Also, as you know,
I do know, my lawyer has advised me not to
talk to my family or anyone else about this case.
About the case, which is truly have never done it.
I followed his advice. Despite your disagreements with the sidon,
(34:38):
please do not text me about this case.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I don't think that they did talk about the case.
I think they were deeply unless it was somewhere really
they were sure that they wouldn't be overheard. And even
then I think they talked about it in euphemisms and
like they didn't do it. I don't think. I just
don't think that they can integrate that part of themselves.
(35:06):
Does that make sense? So they're not the family. They're
not the family to get involved in a murder that
doesn't it's not in line with the way that they
think about themselves. It's not part of their fake public
persona and the fake persona that they've invented for themselves anymore.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Not about the case is not what I said. That's
a brother that he wants. How are you? How's my
sister holding up?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But if you're a prosecutor and you hear this tape,
don't you think, hey, maybe I have a shot. And
all the phone calls. I've gone over this in another
live stream, and there's a video about it too, in
the video section of my channel. I think it's called
Donna and Charlie blame Wendy or point the finger at Wendy,
(36:03):
something like that, And you can hear almost every call.
It goes round and round and round and round again.
Charlie Adelson blames Donna's crazy emails and Wendy's action of
going by the crime scene for the reason that he
got convicted, and Wendy's book. It's not his actions, it's
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his crazy mother's crazy emails and Wendy's impulsativity. He says
at one point that she left her alibi. Then I
mean those words. We pick words because they represent things.
I mean, we don't pick words randomly, like Donna, Adelson
argues in that phone call. We just write things and
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we don't know what they mean. We just write them
because we're not thinking. No, we pick words because out
of all the different words that you could pick. When
Charlie Aedelson is talking about Wendy Aedelson leaving, it's always
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he she left her alibi. So they picked the TV
to be her alibi. The TV were betreed to be
her alibi, and she couldn't help herself and she left it.
Of course they would say, well, it was just a
coincidence that she went by the crime scene. But why
would you need an alibi for that day if you
didn't weren't part of the planning and didn't know what
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was going to happen, or if you weren't even part
of the planning, you just were part of the okaying
of it. You were more a passive figure who okayed
this but didn't do a lot of the planning, who
just knew it was going to happen. You had to
go by the crime scene because you had You couldn't
help herself. She had to make sure it was done.
(37:55):
They all agree in those calls. Hey, your latex bouse
says T minus two weeks until Donna is going down. Yes,
and she's got a hearing on this Friday. The eighth.
I hope I'm right on that day, the eighth, and
I know it's the eighth. I'm just it's Friday, right faith.
(38:16):
Thanks to the take spout. I can't wait till her trial,
but I hope she's convicted. But remember they're going up
in difficulty. Every trial gets more difficult. For this date,
Cheryl says Donna only has herself to blame for Wendy's behavior.
(38:39):
She created Wendy absolutely the genes, the way they all
the way, the values, the Adolesen values. She is the
ultimate representative of the Aedolsen values. When it's easy for you,
you lie, like when things do you know what I mean?
Like when things get tough, you lie to get out
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of it. And then they're shocked that I find it
so funny in this tape recording that they're shocked that
Wendy would lie to them about her lawyer telling her
that she can't talk to them because she told her
lawyer told her not to talk to her parents or
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see her parents, but not shocked enough that they didn't
double check with her lawyer. Can't believe her lawyer as
soon that's John Laura told them that thanks.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Cheryl, if you have anything further to say about the case,
please go through our lawyers right now. I have to
be singularly focused on taking care of the boys during
this difficult time.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I love that thinking. The boys are everything. That's why,
That's why I murdered their their father, or had their
father murdered. Of course, Wendy is innocent legally until proven
in a court of law, but she's an unindicted co
conspirator in this case. But what a thing, you know,
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what a thing to say. I have to focus on
the boys. What it really means is I have to
focus on myself.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I wrote back, Okay, we have no desire to speak
with you about the case. I guess Dad and I
are just shocked that you didn't think of coming to
see us or even calling us. We are your parents,
We are and have always been there for you and
the boys. None of what we wrote matters about the case.
That's over. I just want you to know how many
times Charlie's asking about you. Not only do you not
(40:43):
ask about us, but not one question about Charlie. Right.
We will need to give you some information shortly, and
we need some business assistance. Please let us know if
you can be of any help. I have to say here,
I want to be proposed. We're going to be gone.
I want her to have all this information. I have
(41:05):
the mimitary property. I want her to see all that.
I want her to have all these papers and the wills.
I want her to steal all this. So please let
us know if you could be of any help. The
other thing is the visa, which she would know about.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
The no.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I said, we need we need some business assistance.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Please let us know.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
If not, we'll try to find someone who can help us.
This needs an immediate reply so I can start asking
other people to help. And then she always gets nervous
if we want to talk to her, So I wrote,
don't get nervous again. Nothing in capital letters, nothing about
the case. Just would like to show you some business
stuff and personal things. If you can't do it, we
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must find someone who can. I hope you understand that
it has nothing to do with the case. There is
no more.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
Case, nothing to do about the case. There is no bookcase.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Oh, Donna spoken way too soon, spoken way too soon.
Oh there is still a case. It's coming for you. Wow,
she really thought she was going to get on that plane.
They're always out of overly optimistic this family about their
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chances of getting away. I guess you have to be
if you think you're going to get away with a murder,
murder for hire. And then they thought Charlie was coming home.
Then Charlie gave all his Thomis are away. They thought
his case was going great, and that's why they loved
Dan Rashbound because he fed into that saying everything was
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going great. Apparently he was talking to a lot of
lawyer friends and getting ideas for that case. But I
don't think it's going to go well. Blaming Katie mcmanaa.
I'm just curious what these two prison snitches are going
to say for the state. Just I mean, we have
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a just news I just covered it last time of
a new prison snitch who I assume is gonna back
up a lot of what Drina Burnhardt. Let me show
you her. This is a woman who was very close
to Donna in jail apparently and has a painting, some
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kind of painting from Donna Drena Burnhardt. It's in there
for burglary. And then I think she the other one
violated their parole. Another one was a predator.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
And then I wrote by the way. You said, you
have to focus on the boyd if you told them
so when I got joys before, he said to him,
because I was over there last night. I said, well,
I asked Wendy, but it hasn't got any words from her.
So did she tell the boy?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Said he did?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Now I know Ben was very close. She was writing
to Charlie. I said, how on.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Ben?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Very quiet? He didn't know it much. It's kind of space.
It never coming home. He's never coming back. So he said,
it took them ten minutes and he wasn't seesticals a child.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
He's a child. Is that normal? So? Is that really normal?
This worries me. Did these kids developed the callousness or
were given via DNA the callousness of the Adolson family
ten minutes? If you're really close, he's writing Charlie in
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jail in how brainwashed must they be? I mean, the
refrain of the Adolson family has to be that these
ambitious I know, it's the refrain of every every guilty
convicted person that claims innocence that it was a tunnel
(45:26):
vision investigation, that they're the victims of ambitious, malicious prosecution,
that it wasn't a oh that it was such a
poor investigation that they never looked at anyone else. I mean,
it is going to be a horrible day when they
(45:50):
if these children ever do a deep dive into this
and can accept what they're reading. I mean, you know,
you need your family members. You don't want to think
that the only family members who've known and love are murderers.
(46:11):
But if he just turned off in ten minutes like
that said, oh well, I'm just too much, too bad,
too sad lost my uncle ten minutes later, it's concerning.
So that's not the way children are you hear other
tales of victims family members, because I've talked to a
lot of victims family members, how they never get over it.
(46:37):
And I don't mean to say a loss. I mean,
Charlie Edelson's still alive, but having Charlie take him to
a game or whatever, ever really seeing him. He's not
going to visit him in North Dakota in prison. Is
he until he's much older? I don't know. I would
(47:01):
think it would be much more, much more awful in
the realization that your uncle just got convicted for murder.
And I wonder if they get teased or by other
classmates and says, say that your grandmother, your uncle's a murderer,
(47:21):
your mother's a murderer. Curious, but the refrain is we're innocent.
Tallahassee is terrible in the Markel's. I'm sure they're here,
lots of anti Markel propaganda. The Markelle family is terrible
and wanted to put you into foster care. That lie,
(47:44):
I'm sure they hear.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Okay, I don't want to stay them misible upset, like, oh,
I just want to know how worthy. So that's what
I said earlier to George. Because it was technical stuff
that I couldn't do on a computer. I think just
out of it, so I think a computer the person.
So I said, can you help me with some computer
(48:08):
stuff that I can't get done? And he was on
some business calls and so that he checkted me just
before I can beat it, maybe five five thirty with
best the goods. I think yes. But if I can
get stuff done, then it's no.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I told.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
We have the photo, we have to get them downloaded.
And the other thing I don't understand how could help
me with it. We've been looking it up over and
over because things changed. If there is extraditions from Vietnam,
because we've looked at all the places. I mean, I
could go to Korea and China, but there's no extraditions,
but looking for places.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
We could go to. Korea and China already checked that out.
We're not sure if Vietnam has changed their stance. We
want to fully check that out with someone who knows
all about extradition treats our daughter. I mean, what a
damning This is gonna be so damning when they play
this in in court. Don't you think I can just
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see Donna with the headphones on now listening to this.
I think she will take the stand. That's how I'm
feeling now. I will be shocked if she doesn't take
the stand. I can't see Donna with her need to
control everything, leaving her freedom up to her lawyers. And
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I think it's going to go about as well as
Charlie Aedelson's testifying. Did you know I was listening to
their jailhouse calls intensely for a little while over a couple,
you know, a couple of days, and they had me
convinced that maybe the jury might have been unfair. And
(49:58):
then I went back watched Charlie and that Charlie Adelson's
testimony was great. They had me brainwashed. I dared it
so much. I was like, maybe they have a point.
And I went back and I watched Charlie Aedelson's testimony.
It was terrible. It was so arrogant on the stand.
It's like Stockholm syndrome. That's even a real thing.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Expedition whoop? Really good? Maybe she knows what that. Maybe
she can look up the extradition is before we waste
the time? She gotta tell on music?
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Is she gonna tell on you parents? Can you imagine
having this talk with your friends over Oh, just our
friend who's fleeing a indictment of a grand jury for murder.
Oh yeah, imagine what these friends are like, just hanging
out so casually talking talking about how they're gonna flee,
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flee before the lock. The strong the long arm of
the lock comes down on the strong arm of the law.
Is that the strong armor of the law? Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (51:19):
If you mentioned it's a way what you're going to
tell somebody yourself beforehand? I need to tell you something
as as an attorney who doesn't doesn't talk.
Speaker 8 (51:31):
I needed attend you who doesn't talk. They're my favorite kinds,
the ones that don't talk, the ones that don't talk
and give me up for my murder.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Uh curious. Does anybody remember Charlie Aedelson's sentencing, very emotional
and beautiful statement Bye Dan Markel's father Phil Markel, and
I knew that when it came to I'm for Charlie
(52:00):
Aedelson to talk and it would be all about his innocence.
And that's what he did. He said, I'm just gonna
maintain my innocence. Not that he is innocent, He's just
going to maintain his innocence. Imagine these people. I mean,
the minute that I'm brought over to someone's house who's
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fleeing a murder charge, I'm so out the back door
so fast. I so forgot something in the car and
I'm just beating out the back. Long arm of the law,
that's what it is. Thank you, Beverly, strong arm for
the law, strong long arm of the law. Thank you.
Oh lord, I'm out the back I'm out the back door.
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They're talking about non extradition countries. I'm so out of there.
Maybe although with our with our press that just seems
to love love to loves to free murderers. It seems
to talk about them in the most complimentary ways. Maybe
(53:09):
maybe I'm a dying breed, but I think my friend's
a killer. I am out of there. I'm out of
there so fast.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
It has nothing to do with the case. It just
has to do with Mom and I and some decisions
that we have to make. Yeah, I know you want
to bring her up and show her where everything is
because it's a plane crash. No one's going to know
where anything.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Is, right, it's our stuff. We just want our stuff.
I mean this is they just worship money and stuff.
That's the most important thing that our stuff not go
to waste, be the values of this family. Is Wendy
in Denver? I mean it's ruined her reputation from being
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first in her class to graduating is it magnum kamlatti
or assuming kilate from brandeis no strong, no small thing,
to being a social pariah. I mean, I think she
can only get jobs from friends and stuff. Now, nothing
(54:19):
about the case. We just want to show you some
stuff before we flee for murder.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Oh lah, oh who belongs to us? So I would
like her to come up here so you could see it.
I don't think that's asking too much. The three hours away.
Every time she says can you do this? Can you
come here? Can you do everything? How many times do
we have scientists? I really can't and have to cancel.
Wendy needs us to this, Wendy needs just debatesit. So
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we've been really good nanny, and I guess that our
job is up because now we're boys are older, so
well with friends.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
They see why this woman is a friend. Does anyone
remember this woman's name? I used to know it. I
know they have some of these friends that they mentioned
Annie Cunningham in getting ready on the witness lists for
the defense. Does anybody remember these people's names? Were over
(55:17):
when this call was done, But.
Speaker 8 (55:20):
She's like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Every time we have plans. Do the Atolsens have a
lot of plans? Do they have an act of social life? Really? Really?
Are they still active on the social scene after their
son's on well, their son's on trial for a murder,
as they're the same murder, they're unindicted co conspirators and
(55:44):
at this point.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
So she doesn't need remain Grandpa, Okay, pretty hurtful. I
have one son that'll I have one son that's closing,
said if I saw her whom I love doing this.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (56:04):
I don't get it. I said to Hard we've thought
a family curse.
Speaker 8 (56:12):
A family's cursed. It's nothing we did. It's not that
we decided to do a murder.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
It's just some random curse.
Speaker 8 (56:20):
It's like a kind of viral curse that's going around,
and it just landed on our family randomly.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
It's not like we we all agreed to murder someone
and sentence the family and friends and love everyone who
loved Dan Markel to a life sentence of grief.
Speaker 8 (56:42):
Not that it's just it's just a kind of viral
curse that's going around.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (56:50):
I've tried to mask up. I tried to use hand sanitizer,
and somehow we got this curse. We picked it up somewhere,
you know, maybe a bad toilet seat.
Speaker 6 (57:01):
Somewhere, and I don't know of it anymore.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
So the other thing that's so funny about her crying
in these calls, So she'll start sobbing or like boohooing.
It's almost like a cartoonish boohoo on the phone to Charlie.
(57:31):
Charlie Adolson will really ham it up. He's like I
was coming home. I was telling everyone I was coming home.
Can't wait to drive home with you. Dan rashbound, Dan
rashbuf said, I'm driving y home. So why they love
Dan Rashbaun. They all he loved to join in on
their delusions that he was gonna be the one to
(57:53):
get Charlie Aedelson an acquittal. I mean, he's the one
who went out and hired Josh Duban and it diesel
one who's who said he went around saying I finally
have an innocent client and all this nonsense. But she'll
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start boohooing, and then she'll think that the call is
disconnected or you can hear her change on a dime,
so it'd be like whoooo And then she'd be like, oh, Charlie,
you're still there. You're still there, Like she can talk
with full voice, she can turn she can turn it off.
(58:37):
So they're both kind of playing it up this acting.
Charlie's like, I really thought it would be now my
life's sober, you know, really laying it on. I really
thought I was giving away my food. I couldn't wait
to hug you and tell you I loved you. All
this nonsense. You want to understand the Adelson family. These
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calls are so instructive. I'm telling.
Speaker 5 (59:03):
Mm hmm, it is better it is cable that that shared.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
H M. I know that it is the prosecution's habit
(59:35):
of offering plea deals before they go to trial. But
it could not be true. It could be true. I
think I'm using so I put a question mark on it.
It's it, But I mean I think that whether it's
(01:00:03):
offered or not, it's never gonna happen. No one in
this family is ever gonna get is ever gonna admit guilt.
So for a plea deal, you have to admit guilt.
And you can see why Katie mcbanaa had Charlie Adelson
in her ear when she turned down that plea deal.
(01:00:24):
So Katie mcbannima might admit guilt had she not been
so influenced by Charlie Adelson. But she's still having a
hard time coming clean with all of her involvement. She's
still telling a little bit of the truth. So there's
very few confessions that are full confessions that are one
(01:00:45):
hundred percent true. Usually criminals minimize their involvement and lie
about the oddist of things. I think people like to
put themselves in a criminal's mind and say, well, I
would tell the whole truth if I was, but you're
not the criminal. There there's if you talk to detectives
(01:01:12):
when they are getting a confession, they expect that there
will be it's not all of the truth, some of the.
Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Truth because up under, so I have.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Because of some.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
I'm sure. I'm sure what you didn't tell because you
need to get an address to put on the basis. Yeah, okay,
m hm, m h m hm when mhm.
Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
Look up.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Oh, does anyone know when Donna Edelson figured out that
(01:02:51):
this is all recorded? I'd love to be there when
that happened.
Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
Change position.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
If there's a video of Charlie Adelson's arrest, I've heard
descriptions of it. He's in his underwear, he's looking crazy,
and they found tons and tons of guns. There's a
very vivid detail of it, but I don't think they've
(01:03:38):
ever released it. If they do have, I don't think
there is a video of it. I think it's been
described so vividly. I think we all animated that. I
think we all think we've seen it, but it's never
been released, and I'm sure people have done freedom of
information acts for it. Anything that exists in this case.
(01:04:02):
People are so interested in it that people have asked
for it. Now, on another note, they are sealing everything
in Donna Adelson's case, we saw another motion for the
state to seal everything up.
Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Let me show you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Okay, So I think I proved my point with this
with this, with this Donna tape, I don't know what's
at the end here.
Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
A place the prices have to go on.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah, they're working out the working out there sounds like
they're working out their trip to Vietnam. I mean, she
can tell a jury that she was just trying to
clear her head after Charlie Aedelson's a divorce. But they
play that and it's so clear that the number one part,
the number one thing that was the most important about
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where they went was that they didn't have an extradition
treaty with America. She could go to China or what
was it, Korea or Vietnam. Those were the places she
wasn't looking at, any place that she could easily. You
can still be brought back from places with a non
extradition treaty, it's just a lot more difficult to bring
(01:05:36):
in more expensive And this is what I hear in
troublesome to bring people back from it, and I think
they would have gone through the trouble So let me
see is that yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
So this was just filed by Donna's defense so unopposed motion,
so that means that the state isn't opposing it.
Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
So this is on.
Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Donna Adelson by and through her undersigned Council respectfully moves
this Court for an order granting the instant unopposed motion
to seal the seal transcripts of depositions. So, Patricia Bird
is this new snitch I talked about? So she was
in Leon County or also the other prison of the
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other jail where Donna was moved to recently. Jason Newlan
Chris Corbett. These are all Chris Corbett's, the did the
surveillance or the forensics telephone forensics specialists Pax sand Bird's
(01:06:57):
FBI specialists Jason new and the investigator Patricia Byrd Joshua
attorney Britney Adams. Have to look at who those Durina
Bernhardt was interviewed by the state on four separate occasions,
and transcripts were prepared for each interview. The depositions in
(01:07:19):
interview concerned the new investigation. The undersigned requests the court
grant this motion for this so the state is not
required to release transcripts person to any public record requests.
So they're saying that people like me, you put in
any freedom of information acts out and sal it. They're
not going to unseal it before trial. Don't even try
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the undersigned, any journalists, etc. Want to find this stuff,
don't unseal it. The undersigned corresponded with the State concerning
this request, and the State does not object to the
granting of the motion. I certify that a copy here
for and has been furnished to Georgia Kapelman and Sarah Dugan,
assistant state attorneys in Tallahassee. And this is Jackie Fulford.
(01:08:05):
These are Dona Aedelson's lawyers, Jackie Fulford and Josh Zelman.
So they're, oh, oh, I'm not sharing. Hold on one second,
Oh I am sharing. Okay. They get the idea. You
get the idea that they're very concerned about anything concerning
this investigation be leaked out. So curious. We won't know
(01:08:32):
till Georgia Kapulman makes her opening statement. I would think
that this element would be in her opening statement. If
it's true that Donna Adelson was trying to solicit favorable
testimony by offering fate, I don't have favors money whatever. Well,
(01:08:56):
we'll find out all the details of it starting at
the end of August, so jury selection begins August nineteenth,
and then trial. It should be a one or two
week trial, so I'm looking forward to it. I will
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be reporting, hopefully live streaming the I don't think it'll
be super eventful because there's so many I don't think
we're going to know much more on the hearing on
this Friday, but I will be live streaming it, all right.
So that's what I have for today. If it is true,
it's an interesting turn of events, but I'm not surprised
(01:09:43):
I would have paid bet any money of the vote,
though I'm not a betting woman that Donna would turn
down any plea deal where she'd have to admit guilt.
In this case, it's not about protecting Wendy. It's really
about protecting her own phony persona. All right, have a
(01:10:04):
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This was a fake, fake end of the show. I'll
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the show when we get back, as always, victim impact
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letters about Dan Markel, people who knew and loved Dan Markel,
and a few thank you. Don't go anywhere. I will
be right back, my check.
Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
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the shadows plater place, frauds to fold when a spotlight beams.
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and y C polls truth Sharpest Night, Verda exposing She's
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the anti fried Light partask Warrior, dissecting Satan's defense, twisted innocense, claims,
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facts in the forefront, No justice gets swayed. Cold facts
drip heavy, real talk, gun furls, cracking cases open like
oysters with pearls. Innocense gimmicks crumble the dust in the
wind for victims, Her creed justice till the end headphones blazing.
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She drops heavy artillery. Now it has twisted meat, blunt objects, civility.
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fraud light.
Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Okay, I'm back, I'm back, I'm back. Susan Bucklin, thank
you and Jimmy for buying me a coffee. I appreciate it. Also,
I want to thank Tammy Shepherd Marcy Denton m Evans
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support the channel, links are always in the description of
this episode. One more thing before I go, I like
to end the way I always do, with a victim
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impact statement. This is from the Katie mcbanawa in Sigfredo
Garcia's trial and it was written to the Honorable James C. Hankinson.
Dan Mark Hell and I were friends from around nineteen
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ninety six until his death. I've been friends with his
brother in law since high school days and when I
moved to Toronto, I was often included in markel, Shabbat
dinners and other holiday celebrations. Dan and I never lived
in the same city and we didn't see each other often,
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but Dan always made the effort to reach out and
stay connected. I happened to meet him when I was
making some decisions about a relationship and my job at
the time. Dan's capacity for listening and offering sound advice
was astounding. His strong values, deconnection with his Jewish identity,
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incredible intelligence, and dedication to his career challenged my acquiescence
to my life situation viav A viav my career and relationship.
His very presence in my life brought out my strengths.
I think I could have fallen in love with him
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if we had lived in the same city, or, as
we joked, our styles of travel were similar. I am
a backpacker and he is a planner. As many others
have attested to, the members of the Marquelle family are
incredibly warm and loyal. Dan's boys were the light of
his life and brought great joy to his whole family.
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They are being deprived of their grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles,
and many friends that make up the fabric of the
Marquel community. I miss Danny a lot. He brought a
perspective to my life that I haven't found in anyone else.
I'm grateful for the time we spent together and hope
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this trial brings some peace to him and to his family. Sincerely,
Julie Christophe Montero, Montreal, Canada. Okay, that's what I have
for today. Guys, thanks for sticking around. I'll be back
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tomorrow at six pm Eastern. Have a great night everyone.
Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
Dona, what a steach you're him. You've got it a
murder because you wanted to raise your daughter's kids. Tama
has here is.
Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Just to stop on the.
Speaker 10 (01:16:47):
Way to civilization in Miami is where all the fancy
people are. The TV is about five.
Speaker 8 (01:17:00):
You can't get away from that.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Tote tato uho.
Speaker 10 (01:17:06):
You know the guy you pay then you can't get
away from that, Oh Dan?
Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
What to stitch your head?
Speaker 10 (01:17:16):
You thought chill was just for the little people, but
now you're saw blank. It's with the locked up proof
your brandmother is locked down and you're one way ride
to feed on your blue Hoodana. What to stitch your head?
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Your family are exile from the social circles.
Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
You swam in.
Speaker 10 (01:17:54):
We all know you never made that banana break. You're
offered to babysit for a dance, but she'll soon be
nake in license plates and thinking Abouble could have been
all gone, you had to plan a murder.
Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
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Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Everyone, ye, yourself. I don't want to give it to you.
Why do I why would have said.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Your favorites unders?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You have to go with I have to go. I
have to help you, also saying please don't let guys
take the bugs. Yeah, you need that way outside. Okay,
years old, you can't.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Please, can I go?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
You can't do it better?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'll do't to this. Please please so kind to help
him get terrible?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Okay, we do please? No, do you have any value
in you? Yeah? Take it off.
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You are listening to the ROBERTA.
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ROBERTA.
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Glass is now on the record. Oh okay, how is everybody?
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Hello Kitties nineteen ninety three. Hello Debbie Martin, Hello Lourie,
Hello Mia Wallace, Hello dark Side of the Moon. Thanks
for joining me. I wanted to talk with you guys
today about Donna Edleson and what has been leaked out
(02:41):
by lawyer Tim Janssen last night on STS and that
is that and I actually, well let's let's watch it together,
shall we. Let's actually hear it from the horse's mouth.
This is lawyer Tim Jansen, He's a Florida attorney, and
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he says he's gotten some secret news about a plea
deal offered to Donna Adelson. Take a listen, my check.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Roberta strides through the static case True Crime, got the
way the shadows play the place.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
This is much activate with go ahead to him.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
I wanted to break this. This is something I just
heard from a very good source. Donna was offered a
plea deal of time served if she gave up Wendy Well,
and she turned it down.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I mean, does that surprise anybody? I mean, the only
part that surprised me is that the state's attorney's office
once alson so badly, or that they feel like they
don't have enough evidence with the things that they have
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to convict Wendy. I mean, that's what that will tell you, sadly,
is they don't feel confident about their chances to convict Wendy,
and they feel Wendy is the more culpable person in
this than Don Aedelson. Also, it worries me, and we're
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going to talk a little bit about the psychology behind it.
It worries me that maybe the state feels that they
are not in a good position going into Donna Hagelson's trial. Certainly,
we've seen a lot of acquittals of guilty people lately,
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and jurys have had decades and decades of innocence fraud. Media.
I mean they've consumed decades and decades lifetime of innocent fraud.
Documentaries have talked about when I was a juror last
year and the first vote was it was a child
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preditation case. First vote was eleven to one guilty. So
eleven of us gluting me thought the defendant was guilty
and one wanted to vote not guilty, and so we
turned this woman and right before we all agree, you know,
sign off on our verdict, a gentleman says, well, there's
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lots of wrongful convictions, but I don't think this is
one of them. And I thought to myself, well, don't
you think every jury is convinced to that level before
they convict someone. You think that there's juries that are
unsure that are convicting someone on some such serious chart.
(06:01):
And I said, like, what like what like, let's let's
go through these because this is something that I've looked
at for over a decade. Now. Wait, before I had
my podcast and I go into the transcripts of these
famous because I figured the famous cases had to be
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better cases than the others, and one is a more
obvious case of guilt than the next. Not saying that
wrongful convictions never happened, just saying that I think they're
very rare. But it seems like we're having more and
more jewelries that are refusing to convict anyone and are
this is this state feeling like it's not a good look,
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or a jey isn't going to think it's a good
look to convict a grandmother. This is why I say
that I've always felt Donna Aedelson is going to play
up her age because it's the best thing she has
as far as her innocence. Hey, Wesley loves october Fest.
Thanks for gifting ten very generous of you memberships. I
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really appreciate your support. Nice to see you. Those will
be handed out in random to the chat, to the
people in the chat, is my understanding. So what does
this say? First, I'm not convinced that this is about
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protecting Donna Adelson's family members. For me, the fact that
Donna Adelson turned this down is because she will never
admit guilt. She will never take a plea deal. She'd
rather go to prison for the rest of her life
and pretend to be a victim of a criminal justice
system run amok and the wild justice system they have
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in Tallahassee. We've heard her on Charlie Aedelson's deall house
calls blaming Tallahassee over and over again. That Charlie Aedelson,
with all his money and with a jury consultant, I
consider him more like a used car salesman. But inno
(08:22):
since project ambassador so Josh Dupid, who I think is
a total fraudster, that's my opinion of him. I mean,
that guy has never met a criminal. He doesn't want
a free or a criminal he doesn't think is the
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victim of some kind of injustice. So I think it's
more about the fact that Donna Edelson, so this would
have seen her do no time whatsoever. So time served,
So the time she did in jail, couple years in
jail is good enough for a murder instead of doing life.
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I mean, it's a pretty sweetheart deal. Now we know
Charlie Adelson was offered some kind of deal before his
trial and he turned it down. But I don't know
what he was offered. It couldn't have been this sweet
a deal. I mean, it tells you that they think
Wendy is the mastermind behind this murder for ire of
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Dan Markel, Wendy Adelson's ex husband, Dan Markel. And they
also feel that they after Donna, they don't have enough
evidence to convict Wendy. That's what it tells me. But
as far as Donna ever saying that she is responsible,
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she'd rather go to prison for the die in prison
than admit that her family was a part of a
criminal plot. And when I say her family, I'm talking
about everyone but Robert Adelson. Of course, her daughter Wendy
Aedelson and her husband Harvey Aedelson are unindicted co conspirators
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in this case. She would she doesn't want to go
home to Miami or even retire to some even a
non extradition country like she was traveling to when she
got arrested on a one way ticket and retire there
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and have a reputation of being a killer. And I
don't think she can admit it. Admit it to her.
She knows she did it, but the narcissism is too strong.
She's not the type. Her family is has too good
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a name to be involved in something so evil, she'll
never go down. I mean, I'm not surprised. So they
could have offered her any kind of plea deal, didn't
have to involve her family members, and she never would
have taken it. This is not a family that's going
to accept plea deals. And this is the kind of
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thinking they feel. The case against them is ridiculous. And
then and I think she thinks that she's smarter than
the state. Well we all know how that turned out.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Ditto.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Charlie Aedelson felt the same way, and we saw how
that turned out for him. So I think people are
confused because they know that things are on the rocks
between Donna Aedelson and Wendy Aedelson. And how do they
know that, well from this prison call that this is
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really the call that got Donna Aedelson arrested. Let's take
a listen to it. So they call dropped, or Donna
Edelson thought the call dropped, but it was still being recorded,
so Charlie Adelson couldn't hear her, but they but this,
but the prison sure, the jail Leon County jail recording
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was still going on. They could still hear her. And
this is what they caught on tape. Take listen.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
And thanks very much. Okay, because what I don't want
to you know what I want to.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Do, but.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
I think I LOSELF.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I can't. I can't. I'm not that strong.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So she's saying, I rather go down, lie down, and
end it all then live with the fact that Charlie
Adelson her sons is now serving a life sentence in
prison for something he hasn't done. Lol. So very much
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the language of the wrongful conviction movement. They always hear
these guilty people say I was convicted for a crime
I didn't commit and claim or people have had their
convictions overturned who claim their axoneries say I was convicted
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charged with the crime they didn't commit. Very much. So
here's Todd echoing that language but saying it's not She's
just gonna down. That was her one option. The other
option was gonna fly to a non extradition a country
without an extradition treaty with America. That's what she chose instead.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
And I also know how Key is a year and
his body and everything just slowly started to deteriorate.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Ow I a great marriage, happy was good, it was brilliant,
not unhappy, and I'm one of willing to just say goodby.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
It doesn't panful. We've worked sanitary property a couple of
months ago.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
We're good, I'm good.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
A wented to this weekend because I had said something.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
That made her feel like I had enough and enough
going to watch.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Well, I know what I need to do now something
because she's never once doesn't come over, I need to.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So now they're talking about Wendy. Wendy's never once come
over and said I just need to talk to you.
So here is the rift between Donna and Wendy exposed.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I'm a.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Big walk.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Mhm s sat down on the couch right there. I
needed to be here, And she didn't say.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
This is a horrible time for all of us. All
abribated but.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh yeah, Well, of course she didn't sit down on
the couch and say this is a terrible time for
all of us because the way this family was raised.
Now Robert Aidolson talks about this and he will be
this is the oldest son of Harvey. Sorry, I just
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hit with my hand the controller for the air conditioning there,
did you guys hear that? So of course she didn't
sit down and say this is a horrible time for
all of us. So, of course, this is the way
that this family, these children have been raised. And I
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point to the oldest son of Harvey and Donna Adelson,
Robert Aidolson, who removed himself from the family, exiled himself
after Dan Markel's murder after he surmised that the rest
of the family was responsible for this murder for hire.
He told a story about how when he got too
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much change as a younger person in this family and
he returned it to the cash ear, they all made
fun of him and called them honest ape. So it's
very much a family of get what Everyone is sort
of out for themselves, get what you can. But the
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family is also like a little bit like a gang
or a mafia, so they're all out for themselves, but
they do see themselves as a group. So that's the
way Donna and Harvey taught their children to be get
as much as you can get, give as little as possible.
Winning is everything, Money is everything. You got to be
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a winner in life. Just push their children to succeed.
Succeeding and money is everything. Winning is everything. So of course,
when it comes time for the for comforting, the rest
of your family nowhere in sight. And Donna Adelson is
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in no position to talk about Wendy Aedelson's insensitivity because
Donna and the Harvey looked after themselves first and never
attended Charlie's trial and said if they were on the
witness list for this state, and they said, we'll take
the fifth if you put us up on the stand.
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So they didn't even attend that trial to support their
son going through it, and as soon as he got convicted,
they were out of there. They're like, we'll support you
from a non extradition country. Look after number one who
cares that Charlie Aedelson might need a lot of support
in prison and all he has left is his family
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and a few friends. We're out of here.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
We're we're on a plate. We're out of here. Baby,
we'll make it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
This is this is the great mom.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
When she goes, Dan says, maybe we'll make it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But it's worth a try, It's worth a try.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
So just stat there, suicidal, I'm going to be correction.
I'm fine. The boys tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, I want to go to sleep and not see
my son. I do perfectly, honest, I do we.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Do it together.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Leave the note of know when to come in here
and we'll do it together.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
The boy.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
It's not that she's so worried about her son in prison.
It's that it's deeply shameful to have a son in prison.
These you know, I've talked to people who knew this
family and they say this family was like always presented
as the perfect family, and they promoted that image. Now
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they have a son who's convicted of murder, and what
are they gonna do. It's just furious shame. They can't
handle the shame. That's what this is about. It's not like, oh,
it's going to be so horrible. What a horrible life
for Charlie. Is that the real Adolson family has been exposed.
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This is what she can't stand. So plead deal, plead deal,
nice tride. No Adolson will ever take a plea deal.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Well, I'm going to make a decision at some point
after speaking to dam this morning and knowing what they're
thinking up there, I don't know if we'll make it
out in time. It really don't then your mind, or
you might do all of it stick to the airport
and that could happen. It could happen. I don't know,
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but it's worth to try it.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
I've tried and try to try. I don't know how
I love it, but I don't know what it's doing.
And we have.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
To do that stuff for rum and.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
That what was.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So these are just auto generated title uh subtitles. So
what they're talking about is putting things together for Rome
In which was Charlie Adelson's son, their grandson here putting
together things. While they're right, they're perfectly happy with. What's
(22:05):
so interesting is again which proves my point this crime.
One of the motivations for this crime was so that
Donna Adelson could raise her grandchildren, have total control over
in access to her grandchildren. But the minute that she
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hears that she's going to be indicted by a grand jury,
she wants to be nowhere near her grandchildren. She's out
of there Vietnam. I mean, they would never be able
to come back see their grandchildren, see their daughter. All
these these are things that they say are so hugely
important to them, so hugely important that they must kill
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Dan Markel, Wendy Aedelson's ex husband. I mean, this will
tell you that this is a crime about power and
control and not about loving the grandchildren. So much so
they would have. I mean as soon as they if
they had gotten on that flight, Scott Radius hadn't dropped
a dime on them. Is that, I don't know if
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that's technically correct, drop a dime because they weren't they
were going to be arrested. H The rest got out
after he let the state know that they were going
to flee and avoid the So they hadn't been indicted
(23:38):
by the Grand Juri yet. I mean the idea is,
you know, the fleeing is that they were leaving before
they the indictment came down and before they could get arrested.
So as suit as Scott Radius dropped a you know,
a dime on them there they if they had got
if that hadn't happened and they actually got out of there,
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they wouldn't have seen their grandchildren, their son, their daughter.
But they're being mad mad at Wendy for not coming around,
for protecting herself. I mean, talk about the pot calling
the cattle. I mean, people don't I point this out
very often. Then this is a family of every person
(24:23):
out for themselves.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Ohticulations friend in charge and.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Uh huh.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Twelve and the.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Other and the three Yeah, somebody wanting so uh.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Would make some effort to respond that I could figure
with you would say, would you do that if I can't, because.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That was.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So to give you a little background, they had friends
over and they were just getting everything legally ready, trust
for Roman, making sure other people took care of their property,
everything was in order. One of the things that's going
to come in as evidence is down in Adelson's lists
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that she made to get everything closed down, basically closing
down their life in Miami and getting ready for their
life essentially as fugitives of the law. Not Harvey, but
Donna in Vietnam. I mean, I went over those communications
(26:12):
with Harvey and Scott Radius recently. You can see that
they're like, we don't know where we're going. They knew
where they were going, I'm pretty sure. I'm sure, pretty
sure they had a long term plan or an idea
of where they were going to settle down. They just
weren't telling anyone but Dan rash Baum, who would tell
Charlie and perhaps Wendy was on a need to know basis.
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That's my feelings.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So you tell me, George, I don't know how to
get in touch with them, So let me ask George.
So fond to her lawyer, and that's not about the case.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I have builties.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Sure, sure ye, And I said, I just got off
with trolley.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
He's worried about you.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
He wants to know what.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Oh yeah, you never.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
We know you never asked anything about your brother, and
she doesn't and she told me because her lawyer said
she shouldn't ask. But we found out it's not true.
But we just got off the phone with him. My attorney.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Was shocked.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
It was shocked that Wendy would lie. Wendy would lie
to her own mother, her own old.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Mother, she would lie. Shocking. So Wendy said said, look,
I just haven't been around because it's a I can't
talk to you. I can't be around you. My lawyer
told me not to talk to you. She wants to
remove herself as far from her family and he her
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self as safe as possible. Means you don't forget that
Wendy's a lawyer.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
I never told her that, but I.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
No, So I wrote this last night. We know you
never asked anything about your brother.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So I assume that's John Laura. But why is John
Laura discussing what he's telling his client with I mean,
even with Donna and Harvey. I mean, he shouldn't really
be discussing any of that, should he.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
This is eight o'clock last night. But we just set
off the phone with him, and the first thing he
asked was, how's Wendy holding up. I didn't have the
heart to tell him that you never called up or
asked about him. I just said we weren't up the
phone calls right now. Everyone looks to protect you. I
bet you've got a lot to think about. But then she.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I mean pretty telling. I bet you got a lot
to think about. Everyone protects you. And we can go
back to that call, and there's an interesting part of
the call. Maybe I'll go over it in a live
stream soon. But in the call between one of the
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post conviction calls between Charlie Adelson and Donna Adelson, Charlie
Adelson talks about how he was told by Michael Weinstein,
who was the great Weinstein family. His father, Michael Weinstein's
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father was Wendy Aedelson's godfather. He was a state senator,
but told by Michael Weinstein to not say anything like
maybe Michael Weinstein tipped Charlie Adelson off that he shouldn't
be talking on the phone about anything, and he says,
like two days before. It's hard to put that exactly,
(30:03):
put a timeline into that exactly, but they had been
told I think that they might be surveilled where surveillance
was going on around the time of the bump, So
that puts it into context. Really, how loose their lips
(30:25):
really are, what bad criminals they really are. I mean,
if you're told don't talk on the phone, and Donna's like,
come by, well is it a you know, Charlie's playing
twenty questions, is it the irs? Is it someone else?
And they just can't help themselves. But on one of
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these calls, when it asks about Wendy, you can hear
Donna go no, no, no, no, not about Wendy, not
about Wendy. I mean, the reaction is so over the top.
She protests too much. This is what she's talking about.
We all protected you and said you had no part
of it. They also said that about themselves. But there
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are people out there that think that this family all
did this murder as a gift to Wendy, as if
that would ever happen in real life, as if they
would give her a gift that they weren't sure she
would like that they couldn't undo, like, oh wait, you
didn't want your ex husband Dan Markel murdered. Oh, we
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did it as a gift to you. Oh wait, well
we can't really return it now, can't undo that gift.
And also they would have had to count on the
fact that Wendy wouldn't turn them all in. Wendy had
to be in on the planning. It is, unless you
live on planet Mars. In what world would a family
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do this all behind someone's back, of family member's back?
Just not really realistic. But there are people who just
think she complained a lot about it and didn't know
wasn't really part of it. Now Harvey I don't think
was part of the planning because he's a hot ad.
But I think they all knew, minus Robert, they were
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all part of it. They all agreed at some point,
and Donna took on the lion's share of the planning. Yes,
and Charlie.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
But then I got another call from Charlie night and
I said, just got off the phone with Charlie. He's
worried about you. He wants to know why we didn't speak.
I told him a lie, I said, we're only speaking
with you and jan right now. I couldn't bear to
tell him the truth. Your sister never even called us,
is the truth? So she said this morning. I thought
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she'd be racing over here last night. Dear Mom, I
know you are upset by the verdict, but the anger
directed at me is not justified. I don't know how
much any of her.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I'm not responsible in any way for Charlie's situation. I
am not guilty because I did not do anything wrong,
and I was involved in any way with Danny's dipp
when I was interviewed by the police and testified.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
In court notice. She says, none of us were involved?
Is this? This is so Wendy, always the lawyer. I'm
not guilty. I was not involved. I'm not saying Charlie wasn't.
I'm not saying Charlie was wrongfully convicted. I'm not saying
you weren't involved, aren't involved. I'm just saving myself, not
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even to say I know the truth. I know that
none of us were involved. She wouldn't even say that
knowing that this, I mean, she knowing that this might
land in a prosecutor's lap, which it did. Always protecting
number one, always were detecting Number one. Hey you'r latex Sbout.
(34:11):
It's nice to see you. I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Told the truth as I was required to do. I
cannot control how the prosecutor use my state with the
Troldish trial. Again, I didn't say that. Also, as you know,
I do know, my lawyer has advised me not to
talk to my family or anyone else about this case.
About the case, which is truly have never done it.
I followed his advice. Despite your disagreements with the sidon,
(34:38):
please do not text me about this case.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I don't think that they did talk about the case.
I think they were deeply unless it was somewhere really
they were sure that they wouldn't be overheard. And even
then I think they talked about it in euphemisms and
like they didn't do it. I don't think. I just
don't think that they can integrate that part of themselves.
(35:06):
Does that make sense? So they're not the family. They're
not the family to get involved in a murder that
doesn't it's not in line with the way that they
think about themselves. It's not part of their fake public
persona and the fake persona that they've invented for themselves anymore.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Not about the case is not what I said. That's
a brother that he wants. How are you? How's my
sister holding up?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But if you're a prosecutor and you hear this tape,
don't you think, hey, maybe I have a shot. And
all the phone calls. I've gone over this in another
live stream, and there's a video about it too, in
the video section of my channel. I think it's called
Donna and Charlie blame Wendy or point the finger at Wendy,
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something like that, And you can hear almost every call.
It goes round and round and round and round again.
Charlie Adelson blames Donna's crazy emails and Wendy's action of
going by the crime scene for the reason that he
got convicted, and Wendy's book. It's not his actions, it's
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his crazy mother's crazy emails and Wendy's impulsativity. He says
at one point that she left her alibi. Then I
mean those words. We pick words because they represent things.
I mean, we don't pick words randomly, like Donna, Adelson
argues in that phone call. We just write things and
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we don't know what they mean. We just write them
because we're not thinking. No, we pick words because out
of all the different words that you could pick. When
Charlie Aedelson is talking about Wendy Aedelson leaving, it's always
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he she left her alibi. So they picked the TV
to be her alibi. The TV were betreed to be
her alibi, and she couldn't help herself and she left it.
Of course they would say, well, it was just a
coincidence that she went by the crime scene. But why
would you need an alibi for that day if you
didn't weren't part of the planning and didn't know what
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was going to happen, or if you weren't even part
of the planning, you just were part of the okaying
of it. You were more a passive figure who okayed
this but didn't do a lot of the planning, who
just knew it was going to happen. You had to
go by the crime scene because you had You couldn't
help herself. She had to make sure it was done.
(37:55):
They all agree in those calls. Hey, your latex bouse
says T minus two weeks until Donna is going down. Yes,
and she's got a hearing on this Friday. The eighth.
I hope I'm right on that day, the eighth, and
I know it's the eighth. I'm just it's Friday, right faith.
(38:16):
Thanks to the take spout. I can't wait till her trial,
but I hope she's convicted. But remember they're going up
in difficulty. Every trial gets more difficult. For this date,
Cheryl says Donna only has herself to blame for Wendy's behavior.
(38:39):
She created Wendy absolutely the genes, the way they all
the way, the values, the Adolesen values. She is the
ultimate representative of the Aedolsen values. When it's easy for you,
you lie, like when things do you know what I mean?
Like when things get tough, you lie to get out
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of it. And then they're shocked that I find it
so funny in this tape recording that they're shocked that
Wendy would lie to them about her lawyer telling her
that she can't talk to them because she told her
lawyer told her not to talk to her parents or
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see her parents, but not shocked enough that they didn't
double check with her lawyer. Can't believe her lawyer as
soon that's John Laura told them that thanks.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Cheryl, if you have anything further to say about the case,
please go through our lawyers right now. I have to
be singularly focused on taking care of the boys during
this difficult time.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I love that thinking. The boys are everything. That's why,
That's why I murdered their their father, or had their
father murdered. Of course, Wendy is innocent legally until proven
in a court of law, but she's an unindicted co
conspirator in this case. But what a thing, you know,
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what a thing to say. I have to focus on
the boys. What it really means is I have to
focus on myself.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I wrote back, Okay, we have no desire to speak
with you about the case. I guess Dad and I
are just shocked that you didn't think of coming to
see us or even calling us. We are your parents,
We are and have always been there for you and
the boys. None of what we wrote matters about the case.
That's over. I just want you to know how many
times Charlie's asking about you. Not only do you not
(40:43):
ask about us, but not one question about Charlie. Right.
We will need to give you some information shortly, and
we need some business assistance. Please let us know if
you can be of any help. I have to say here,
I want to be proposed. We're going to be gone.
I want her to have all this information. I have
(41:05):
the mimitary property. I want her to see all that.
I want her to have all these papers and the wills.
I want her to steal all this. So please let
us know if you could be of any help. The
other thing is the visa, which she would know about.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
The no.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I said, we need we need some business assistance.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Please let us know.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
If not, we'll try to find someone who can help us.
This needs an immediate reply so I can start asking
other people to help. And then she always gets nervous
if we want to talk to her, So I wrote,
don't get nervous again. Nothing in capital letters, nothing about
the case. Just would like to show you some business
stuff and personal things. If you can't do it, we
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must find someone who can. I hope you understand that
it has nothing to do with the case. There is
no more.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
Case, nothing to do about the case. There is no bookcase.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Oh, Donna spoken way too soon, spoken way too soon.
Oh there is still a case. It's coming for you. Wow,
she really thought she was going to get on that plane.
They're always out of overly optimistic this family about their
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chances of getting away. I guess you have to be
if you think you're going to get away with a murder,
murder for hire. And then they thought Charlie was coming home.
Then Charlie gave all his Thomis are away. They thought
his case was going great, and that's why they loved
Dan Rashbound because he fed into that saying everything was
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going great. Apparently he was talking to a lot of
lawyer friends and getting ideas for that case. But I
don't think it's going to go well. Blaming Katie mcmanaa.
I'm just curious what these two prison snitches are going
to say for the state. Just I mean, we have
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a just news I just covered it last time of
a new prison snitch who I assume is gonna back
up a lot of what Drina Burnhardt. Let me show
you her. This is a woman who was very close
to Donna in jail apparently and has a painting, some
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kind of painting from Donna Drena Burnhardt. It's in there
for burglary. And then I think she the other one
violated their parole. Another one was a predator.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
And then I wrote by the way. You said, you
have to focus on the boyd if you told them
so when I got joys before, he said to him,
because I was over there last night. I said, well,
I asked Wendy, but it hasn't got any words from her.
So did she tell the boy?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Said he did?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Now I know Ben was very close. She was writing
to Charlie. I said, how on.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Ben?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Very quiet? He didn't know it much. It's kind of space.
It never coming home. He's never coming back. So he said,
it took them ten minutes and he wasn't seesticals a child.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
He's a child. Is that normal? So? Is that really normal?
This worries me. Did these kids developed the callousness or
were given via DNA the callousness of the Adolson family
ten minutes? If you're really close, he's writing Charlie in
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jail in how brainwashed must they be? I mean, the
refrain of the Adolson family has to be that these
ambitious I know, it's the refrain of every every guilty
convicted person that claims innocence that it was a tunnel
(45:26):
vision investigation, that they're the victims of ambitious, malicious prosecution,
that it wasn't a oh that it was such a
poor investigation that they never looked at anyone else. I mean,
it is going to be a horrible day when they
(45:50):
if these children ever do a deep dive into this
and can accept what they're reading. I mean, you know,
you need your family members. You don't want to think
that the only family members who've known and love are murderers.
(46:11):
But if he just turned off in ten minutes like
that said, oh well, I'm just too much, too bad,
too sad lost my uncle ten minutes later, it's concerning.
So that's not the way children are you hear other
tales of victims family members, because I've talked to a
lot of victims family members, how they never get over it.
(46:37):
And I don't mean to say a loss. I mean,
Charlie Edelson's still alive, but having Charlie take him to
a game or whatever, ever really seeing him. He's not
going to visit him in North Dakota in prison. Is
he until he's much older? I don't know. I would
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think it would be much more, much more awful in
the realization that your uncle just got convicted for murder.
And I wonder if they get teased or by other
classmates and says, say that your grandmother, your uncle's a murderer,
(47:21):
your mother's a murderer. Curious, but the refrain is we're innocent.
Tallahassee is terrible in the Markel's. I'm sure they're here,
lots of anti Markel propaganda. The Markelle family is terrible
and wanted to put you into foster care. That lie,
(47:44):
I'm sure they hear.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Okay, I don't want to stay them misible upset, like, oh,
I just want to know how worthy. So that's what
I said earlier to George. Because it was technical stuff
that I couldn't do on a computer. I think just
out of it, so I think a computer the person.
So I said, can you help me with some computer
(48:08):
stuff that I can't get done? And he was on
some business calls and so that he checkted me just
before I can beat it, maybe five five thirty with
best the goods. I think yes. But if I can
get stuff done, then it's no.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I told.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
We have the photo, we have to get them downloaded.
And the other thing I don't understand how could help
me with it. We've been looking it up over and
over because things changed. If there is extraditions from Vietnam,
because we've looked at all the places. I mean, I
could go to Korea and China, but there's no extraditions,
but looking for places.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
We could go to. Korea and China already checked that out.
We're not sure if Vietnam has changed their stance. We
want to fully check that out with someone who knows
all about extradition treats our daughter. I mean, what a
damning This is gonna be so damning when they play
this in in court. Don't you think I can just
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see Donna with the headphones on now listening to this.
I think she will take the stand. That's how I'm
feeling now. I will be shocked if she doesn't take
the stand. I can't see Donna with her need to
control everything, leaving her freedom up to her lawyers. And
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I think it's going to go about as well as
Charlie Aedelson's testifying. Did you know I was listening to
their jailhouse calls intensely for a little while over a couple,
you know, a couple of days, and they had me
convinced that maybe the jury might have been unfair. And
(49:58):
then I went back watched Charlie and that Charlie Adelson's
testimony was great. They had me brainwashed. I dared it
so much. I was like, maybe they have a point.
And I went back and I watched Charlie Aedelson's testimony.
It was terrible. It was so arrogant on the stand.
It's like Stockholm syndrome. That's even a real thing.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Expedition whoop? Really good? Maybe she knows what that. Maybe
she can look up the extradition is before we waste
the time? She gotta tell on music?
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Is she gonna tell on you parents? Can you imagine
having this talk with your friends over Oh, just our
friend who's fleeing a indictment of a grand jury for murder.
Oh yeah, imagine what these friends are like, just hanging
out so casually talking talking about how they're gonna flee,
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flee before the lock. The strong the long arm of
the lock comes down on the strong arm of the law.
Is that the strong armor of the law? Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (51:19):
If you mentioned it's a way what you're going to
tell somebody yourself beforehand? I need to tell you something
as as an attorney who doesn't doesn't talk.
Speaker 8 (51:31):
I needed attend you who doesn't talk. They're my favorite kinds,
the ones that don't talk, the ones that don't talk
and give me up for my murder.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Uh curious. Does anybody remember Charlie Aedelson's sentencing, very emotional
and beautiful statement Bye Dan Markel's father Phil Markel, and
I knew that when it came to I'm for Charlie
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Aedelson to talk and it would be all about his innocence.
And that's what he did. He said, I'm just gonna
maintain my innocence. Not that he is innocent, He's just
going to maintain his innocence. Imagine these people. I mean,
the minute that I'm brought over to someone's house who's
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fleeing a murder charge, I'm so out the back door
so fast. I so forgot something in the car and
I'm just beating out the back. Long arm of the law,
that's what it is. Thank you, Beverly, strong arm for
the law, strong long arm of the law. Thank you.
Oh lord, I'm out the back I'm out the back door.
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They're talking about non extradition countries. I'm so out of there.
Maybe although with our with our press that just seems
to love love to loves to free murderers. It seems
to talk about them in the most complimentary ways. Maybe
(53:09):
maybe I'm a dying breed, but I think my friend's
a killer. I am out of there. I'm out of
there so fast.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
It has nothing to do with the case. It just
has to do with Mom and I and some decisions
that we have to make. Yeah, I know you want
to bring her up and show her where everything is
because it's a plane crash. No one's going to know
where anything.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Is, right, it's our stuff. We just want our stuff.
I mean this is they just worship money and stuff.
That's the most important thing that our stuff not go
to waste, be the values of this family. Is Wendy
in Denver? I mean it's ruined her reputation from being
(53:55):
first in her class to graduating is it magnum kamlatti
or assuming kilate from brandeis no strong, no small thing,
to being a social pariah. I mean, I think she
can only get jobs from friends and stuff. Now, nothing
(54:19):
about the case. We just want to show you some
stuff before we flee for murder.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Oh lah, oh who belongs to us? So I would
like her to come up here so you could see it.
I don't think that's asking too much. The three hours away.
Every time she says can you do this? Can you
come here? Can you do everything? How many times do
we have scientists? I really can't and have to cancel.
Wendy needs us to this, Wendy needs just debatesit. So
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we've been really good nanny, and I guess that our
job is up because now we're boys are older, so
well with friends.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
They see why this woman is a friend. Does anyone
remember this woman's name? I used to know it. I
know they have some of these friends that they mentioned
Annie Cunningham in getting ready on the witness lists for
the defense. Does anybody remember these people's names? Were over
(55:17):
when this call was done, But.
Speaker 8 (55:20):
She's like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Every time we have plans. Do the Atolsens have a
lot of plans? Do they have an act of social life? Really? Really?
Are they still active on the social scene after their
son's on well, their son's on trial for a murder,
as they're the same murder, they're unindicted co conspirators and
(55:44):
at this point.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
So she doesn't need remain Grandpa, Okay, pretty hurtful. I
have one son that'll I have one son that's closing,
said if I saw her whom I love doing this.
Speaker 6 (56:03):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (56:04):
I don't get it. I said to Hard we've thought
a family curse.
Speaker 8 (56:12):
A family's cursed. It's nothing we did. It's not that
we decided to do a murder.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
It's just some random curse.
Speaker 8 (56:20):
It's like a kind of viral curse that's going around,
and it just landed on our family randomly.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
It's not like we we all agreed to murder someone
and sentence the family and friends and love everyone who
loved Dan Markel to a life sentence of grief.
Speaker 8 (56:42):
Not that it's just it's just a kind of viral
curse that's going around.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (56:50):
I've tried to mask up. I tried to use hand sanitizer,
and somehow we got this curse. We picked it up somewhere,
you know, maybe a bad toilet seat.
Speaker 6 (57:01):
Somewhere, and I don't know of it anymore.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
So the other thing that's so funny about her crying
in these calls, So she'll start sobbing or like boohooing.
It's almost like a cartoonish boohoo on the phone to Charlie.
(57:31):
Charlie Adolson will really ham it up. He's like I
was coming home. I was telling everyone I was coming home.
Can't wait to drive home with you. Dan rashbound, Dan
rashbuf said, I'm driving y home. So why they love
Dan Rashbaun. They all he loved to join in on
their delusions that he was gonna be the one to
(57:53):
get Charlie Aedelson an acquittal. I mean, he's the one
who went out and hired Josh Duban and it diesel
one who's who said he went around saying I finally
have an innocent client and all this nonsense. But she'll
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start boohooing, and then she'll think that the call is
disconnected or you can hear her change on a dime,
so it'd be like whoooo And then she'd be like, oh, Charlie,
you're still there. You're still there, Like she can talk
with full voice, she can turn she can turn it off.
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So they're both kind of playing it up this acting.
Charlie's like, I really thought it would be now my
life's sober, you know, really laying it on. I really
thought I was giving away my food. I couldn't wait
to hug you and tell you I loved you. All
this nonsense. You want to understand the Adelson family. These
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calls are so instructive. I'm telling.
Speaker 5 (59:03):
Mm hmm, it is better it is cable that that shared.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
H M. I know that it is the prosecution's habit
(59:35):
of offering plea deals before they go to trial. But
it could not be true. It could be true. I
think I'm using so I put a question mark on it.
It's it, But I mean I think that whether it's
(01:00:03):
offered or not, it's never gonna happen. No one in
this family is ever gonna get is ever gonna admit guilt.
So for a plea deal, you have to admit guilt.
And you can see why Katie mcbanaa had Charlie Adelson
in her ear when she turned down that plea deal.
(01:00:24):
So Katie mcbannima might admit guilt had she not been
so influenced by Charlie Adelson. But she's still having a
hard time coming clean with all of her involvement. She's
still telling a little bit of the truth. So there's
very few confessions that are full confessions that are one
(01:00:45):
hundred percent true. Usually criminals minimize their involvement and lie
about the oddist of things. I think people like to
put themselves in a criminal's mind and say, well, I
would tell the whole truth if I was, but you're
not the criminal. There there's if you talk to detectives
(01:01:12):
when they are getting a confession, they expect that there
will be it's not all of the truth, some of the.
Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Truth because up under, so I have.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Because of some.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
I'm sure. I'm sure what you didn't tell because you
need to get an address to put on the basis. Yeah, okay,
m hm, m h m hm when mhm.
Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
Look up.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Oh, does anyone know when Donna Edelson figured out that
(01:02:51):
this is all recorded? I'd love to be there when
that happened.
Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
Change position.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
If there's a video of Charlie Adelson's arrest, I've heard
descriptions of it. He's in his underwear, he's looking crazy,
and they found tons and tons of guns. There's a
very vivid detail of it, but I don't think they've
(01:03:38):
ever released it. If they do have, I don't think
there is a video of it. I think it's been
described so vividly. I think we all animated that. I
think we all think we've seen it, but it's never
been released, and I'm sure people have done freedom of
information acts for it. Anything that exists in this case.
(01:04:02):
People are so interested in it that people have asked
for it. Now, on another note, they are sealing everything
in Donna Adelson's case, we saw another motion for the
state to seal everything up.
Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Let me show you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Okay, So I think I proved my point with this
with this, with this Donna tape, I don't know what's
at the end here.
Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
A place the prices have to go on.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah, they're working out the working out there sounds like
they're working out their trip to Vietnam. I mean, she
can tell a jury that she was just trying to
clear her head after Charlie Aedelson's a divorce. But they
play that and it's so clear that the number one part,
the number one thing that was the most important about
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where they went was that they didn't have an extradition
treaty with America. She could go to China or what
was it, Korea or Vietnam. Those were the places she
wasn't looking at, any place that she could easily. You
can still be brought back from places with a non
extradition treaty, it's just a lot more difficult to bring
(01:05:36):
in more expensive And this is what I hear in
troublesome to bring people back from it, and I think
they would have gone through the trouble So let me
see is that yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
So this was just filed by Donna's defense so unopposed motion,
so that means that the state isn't opposing it.
Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
So this is on.
Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Donna Adelson by and through her undersigned Council respectfully moves
this Court for an order granting the instant unopposed motion
to seal the seal transcripts of depositions. So, Patricia Bird
is this new snitch I talked about? So she was
in Leon County or also the other prison of the
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other jail where Donna was moved to recently. Jason Newlan
Chris Corbett. These are all Chris Corbett's, the did the
surveillance or the forensics telephone forensics specialists Pax sand Bird's
(01:06:57):
FBI specialists Jason new and the investigator Patricia Byrd Joshua
attorney Britney Adams. Have to look at who those Durina
Bernhardt was interviewed by the state on four separate occasions,
and transcripts were prepared for each interview. The depositions in
(01:07:19):
interview concerned the new investigation. The undersigned requests the court
grant this motion for this so the state is not
required to release transcripts person to any public record requests.
So they're saying that people like me, you put in
any freedom of information acts out and sal it. They're
not going to unseal it before trial. Don't even try
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the undersigned, any journalists, etc. Want to find this stuff,
don't unseal it. The undersigned corresponded with the State concerning
this request, and the State does not object to the
granting of the motion. I certify that a copy here
for and has been furnished to Georgia Kapelman and Sarah Dugan,
assistant state attorneys in Tallahassee. And this is Jackie Fulford.
(01:08:05):
These are Dona Aedelson's lawyers, Jackie Fulford and Josh Zelman.
So they're, oh, oh, I'm not sharing. Hold on one second,
Oh I am sharing. Okay. They get the idea. You
get the idea that they're very concerned about anything concerning
this investigation be leaked out. So curious. We won't know
(01:08:32):
till Georgia Kapulman makes her opening statement. I would think
that this element would be in her opening statement. If
it's true that Donna Adelson was trying to solicit favorable
testimony by offering fate, I don't have favors money whatever. Well,
(01:08:56):
we'll find out all the details of it starting at
the end of August, so jury selection begins August nineteenth,
and then trial. It should be a one or two
week trial, so I'm looking forward to it. I will
(01:09:20):
be reporting, hopefully live streaming the I don't think it'll
be super eventful because there's so many I don't think
we're going to know much more on the hearing on
this Friday, but I will be live streaming it, all right.
So that's what I have for today. If it is true,
it's an interesting turn of events, but I'm not surprised
(01:09:43):
I would have paid bet any money of the vote,
though I'm not a betting woman that Donna would turn
down any plea deal where she'd have to admit guilt.
In this case, it's not about protecting Wendy. It's really
about protecting her own phony persona. All right, have a
(01:10:04):
That's what I have for today. Please hit the thumbs
up on your way out. Guys, support the channel. Oh,
I have some people. Oh, wait before I go, I'm
gonna take a quick break. I'm gonna take a quick break.
This was a fake, fake end of the show. I'll
be right back. I have a little bit more of
the show when we get back, as always, victim impact
(01:10:29):
letters about Dan Markel, people who knew and loved Dan Markel,
and a few thank you. Don't go anywhere. I will
be right back, my check.
Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Roberta strides through the static case true Crown got them way,
the shadows plater place, frauds to fold when a spotlight beams.
Fact focused, queen busting, propaganda schemes, glass shadow, lies that
goes through the streets, standing for victims, giving voice that beats,
and y C polls truth Sharpest Night, Verda exposing She's
(01:11:16):
the anti fried Light partask Warrior, dissecting Satan's defense, twisted innocense, claims,
breaking pretense. Gotham's truth Seeker cuts clean with the blade
(01:11:37):
facts in the forefront, No justice gets swayed. Cold facts
drip heavy, real talk, gun furls, cracking cases open like
oysters with pearls. Innocense gimmicks crumble the dust in the
wind for victims, Her creed justice till the end headphones blazing.
(01:12:04):
She drops heavy artillery. Now it has twisted meat, blunt objects, civility.
Roberta god receipts that unraveled, deploy exposing the lies, these
frauds that just deploy glass shadows, lies that goes through
the streets, standing for victims, giving voice, stamp beats and
ye post rou sharpest Knight. Roberta exposes She's the anti
(01:12:25):
fraud light.
Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Okay, I'm back, I'm back, I'm back. Susan Bucklin, thank
you and Jimmy for buying me a coffee. I appreciate it. Also,
I want to thank Tammy Shepherd Marcy Denton m Evans
for supporting the channel via Venmo. If you want to
(01:13:15):
support the channel, links are always in the description of
this episode. One more thing before I go, I like
to end the way I always do, with a victim
(01:13:37):
impact statement. This is from the Katie mcbanawa in Sigfredo
Garcia's trial and it was written to the Honorable James C. Hankinson.
Dan Mark Hell and I were friends from around nineteen
(01:13:58):
ninety six until his death. I've been friends with his
brother in law since high school days and when I
moved to Toronto, I was often included in markel, Shabbat
dinners and other holiday celebrations. Dan and I never lived
in the same city and we didn't see each other often,
(01:14:18):
but Dan always made the effort to reach out and
stay connected. I happened to meet him when I was
making some decisions about a relationship and my job at
the time. Dan's capacity for listening and offering sound advice
was astounding. His strong values, deconnection with his Jewish identity,
(01:14:39):
incredible intelligence, and dedication to his career challenged my acquiescence
to my life situation viav A viav my career and relationship.
His very presence in my life brought out my strengths.
I think I could have fallen in love with him
(01:15:01):
if we had lived in the same city, or, as
we joked, our styles of travel were similar. I am
a backpacker and he is a planner. As many others
have attested to, the members of the Marquelle family are
incredibly warm and loyal. Dan's boys were the light of
his life and brought great joy to his whole family.
(01:15:25):
They are being deprived of their grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles,
and many friends that make up the fabric of the
Marquel community. I miss Danny a lot. He brought a
perspective to my life that I haven't found in anyone else.
I'm grateful for the time we spent together and hope
(01:15:46):
this trial brings some peace to him and to his family. Sincerely,
Julie Christophe Montero, Montreal, Canada. Okay, that's what I have
for today. Guys, thanks for sticking around. I'll be back
(01:16:08):
tomorrow at six pm Eastern. Have a great night everyone.
Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
Dona, what a steach you're him. You've got it a
murder because you wanted to raise your daughter's kids. Tama
has here is.
Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Just to stop on the.
Speaker 10 (01:16:47):
Way to civilization in Miami is where all the fancy
people are. The TV is about five.
Speaker 8 (01:17:00):
You can't get away from that.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Tote tato uho.
Speaker 10 (01:17:06):
You know the guy you pay then you can't get
away from that, Oh Dan?
Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
What to stitch your head?
Speaker 10 (01:17:16):
You thought chill was just for the little people, but
now you're saw blank. It's with the locked up proof
your brandmother is locked down and you're one way ride
to feed on your blue Hoodana. What to stitch your head?
(01:17:48):
Your family are exile from the social circles.
Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
You swam in.
Speaker 10 (01:17:54):
We all know you never made that banana break. You're
offered to babysit for a dance, but she'll soon be
nake in license plates and thinking Abouble could have been
all gone, you had to plan a murder.
Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
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