November 10, 2025 • 57 mins
Karen Read announced via Nick Rocco on X today that she will be pushing out her innocence fraud propaganda campaign on a new YouTube channel. In this episode we take a closer look at the Christmas she spent alone, Read’s hatred towards her sister Elizabeth and her manipulative & contradictory statements she gave to Brian Higgins. Let’s get into it!
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Show Notes: Innocence Fraud Watch “ How Cop Killer & Malignant Narcissist Karen Read & Her Contradictory Statements & Web Of Lies Helped EXPOSE Her Manipulative Tactics & Guilt. Incl: Brian Higgins Texts, Erin O’Keefe & Sister Elizabeth Read”- https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2025/11/10/how-cop-killer-malignant-narcissist-karen-read-her-contradictory-statements-web-of-lies-helped-expose-her-manipulative-tactics-guilt-incl-brian-higgins-erin-okeefe/
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, just to be clear, you didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up. You all know if
John was beaten up and attacked in that house. Who
did it?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We don't know. We don't know, and it's not for
us to know.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Somebody other than Karen. Somebody other than Karen is responsible
for that, for the killing of John.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You are listening to the ROBERTA. Glass True Crime report
putting the true back in true crime.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
From New York City.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Glass is now on the record. Oh okay, here we go. Hello,
(01:16):
Wesley loves October Fest. Little role call Rob here, Bistro here?
Who else is here? Let me say she Fly nine
dark Side Hello, Hello, Hello Kitties nineteen ninety three. Hello,
(01:38):
All the usual suspects are here. So today the big
subject is, of course, every time I think I'm being
pulled back out, I am pulled back in with Karen Reid.
(01:59):
And now she's gonna have a NonStop propaganda channel YouTube
channel by Nick Rocco, former lottery winner and Karen Reid loyalists,
is gonna head up her YouTube channel ahead of her.
(02:26):
Let me see if I can show you hold on
one second. Who there? It is so ahead of her
civil trial. So this is announced on X today. In
the next couple weeks, I'm launching a YouTube show this
is what Nick Roco writes, that will give you exclusive
access to Karen's defense team during the civil trial. The
(02:51):
show will mainly feature guests, mostly from the defense team. Strangely,
he's not going to have the plaintiff's team on. He's
not gonna have the Okeef lawyers on. I'm shocked or
any any of the any of the prosecutors, prosecutor Adam Lally,
Hank Brettan from the criminal trial to break down their
(03:14):
motions and discuss what's currently happening in the case. So
they're going to be propagandizing NonStop until the civil trial commences.
So we don't know, you know, I announced last episode
that that they handed in their motion. This is Karen
(03:39):
Reid's lawyers, and she's dropped some lawyers and added others,
so it's like still a big team of lawyers, but
some have been dropped and some have been added. So
she's coming in with a huge amount of lawyers for
the civil trial and she will continue to propagandize the public,
(04:05):
but that motion to add in other people. So it's
really a crazy emotion in relation to what this case
is all about, meaning the civil case. So the civil
case is a case brought on by the O'Keefe family
for wrongful death, very much like and is often compared
(04:25):
to Oj Simpson and when he got away with murdering
Ron Goldman and his wife ex wife Nicole Brown Simpson,
he was sued by the Goldman family civilly for wrongful death.
And in this case, the o'keefes are suing Karen Read
(04:47):
for wrongful death in a civil case where our civil
courts the bar of evidence is much lower. You just
have to prove it's more likely so than not. And
I don't think the burden of proof was ever the
really big hurdle here. It was always Karen Reid's innocence
fraud campaign. In my view, that was the big hurdle.
(05:13):
And a prosecution team that really failed to bring out
all the evidence against Karen Reid and including all her
text messages and past history and whatever else that they
could bring in to court. There was a lot of
missing pieces in the criminal trial. They also went with
(05:34):
the idea that she was so jealous instead of really
going with the truer narrative, which is a narrative of
domestic violence, so murder at the end of a long
string of domestic violence. So it probably never felt true,
(05:56):
along with all the innocence fraud campaign to the jury,
because it really wasn'tn't the true narrative that Karen Reid
was so jealous and she just heard about Bella's mom
in the car and she flipped out. She flipped out.
I've always said that was nonsense, and son, I'll double
down on it tonight. Hey, Wesley, let's begin with some
(06:20):
cat door cash. Thank you very much. I appreciate it, Wesley,
thanks for supporting the channel. So ahead of that, I mean,
she's gonna sounds like she's going to go the same
way that she went with the criminal case, which is
just continuing to propagandize the public. So meaning try this
(06:44):
case outside in the court of opinion where there is
no rules, and with Judge Canoni in the criminal case,
there really were hardly any rules in the inside the
court either wasn't much difference. It was like the Wild
WestEd there those crivital trials with Karen Reid wild I've
(07:05):
never seen such an out of control courtroom as Judge
Canoni's courtroom, as far as just flagrantly breaking the rules
by Karen Reid's defense attorneys, and they were called out
for it eventually, but nothing happened and still hasn't happened
to those lawyers were lying to the court or having
(07:27):
a lack of candor to the court, which is essentially lying.
Does everybody remember when that happened. Karen Reid's lawyers were
called out for their heinous They're just lying, straight up lying,
presented a witness as if it were like the ark
of witnesses like they were in partial witnesses that they
weren't being paid. Turns out they were being paid. They
(07:50):
could have they could have gotten an acquittal on the
first trial, just done totally bogus, bogus testimony. And I mean,
we talked about corruption, but the corruption was really from
the defense team in this case. But going forward, so
(08:12):
I've been talking a lot about Karen Reid spending Christmas
alone and what was a total deterioration of her what
was her relationship with John O'Keeffe. Things were at a
breaking point if you'd listen to the We couldn't listen
(08:34):
to the testimony, but we did read about it from
Cayley and Patrick, John o'keef's niece, a nephew who he
was the guardian of along with some other members of
the family, but who he raised. They talk about John
O'Keeffe asking Karen Reid to leave his home and she
(08:57):
refused before Karen Reid reversed into him. So about a
week before she was being asked to leave the home
and she's refusing. John o'keeff telling Karen Reid that the
relationship had run its course, that it wasn't healthy, that
John O'Keeffe had recognized that it wasn't healthy. Talked about
(09:21):
on this channel how Karen Reid demanded proof of where
John O'Keeffe was with a picture and who he was with,
so that the last text messages between them, that last
day of text messages between them, John O'Keeffe is sending
(09:41):
a picture of his dad next to him on the
couch to prove to Karen where he is and who
he's with. She was keeping intense control over her victim.
(10:03):
And this is a continuation of that. Is you can
see a continuation of this kind of power and control
in her text messages with Brian Higgins and also her
contradictory statements. So this is another excellent blog. You're not
(10:27):
following Innocent FraudWatch, you're missing out how cop killer and
malignant narcissist Karen Reid and her contradictory statements and web
of lies help expose her manipulative tactics and guilt, including
Brian Higgins, text, Aaron O'Keeffe, and sister Elizabeth reads. So
we're going to get all into that, her relationship with
(10:47):
her sister Elizabeth Reid, who we've never seen. It's always
her brother Nathan. Elizabeth Reid has been missing in action.
Mia twenty fourth, December twenty one, Karen Reid took over
John o'keef and his niece and nephew and family and
(11:08):
friends traditional Christmas get together to keep the focus on her.
So they had there a certain ritual. I'll get into
this in a later episode, but Karen Reid insisted on
her own and she decided who was going to be
invited and who wasn't going to be invited. Was John
(11:30):
O'Keefe one of his oldest friends, Brendan Cain, who had
a tradition of coming over on Christmas Eve with his
wife and daughter. But before that Christmas Eve, John O'Keeffe
called Brendan Kane and said, my sister has a sorry,
my sister in law Aaron O'Keefe. So Paul O'Keeffe's wife,
(11:55):
Aaron has a problem with COVID and it's going to
be family only, and he was like, okay. But when reality,
it was nobody had a problem with COVID. It was
Karen who didn't want Brendan Cain there for whatever reason.
(12:16):
So she was starting to isolate John o'keef from his friends.
So Karen Reid spent Christmas Day alone at her home
in Mansfield. This highly significant fact has been hidden by Karen,
her immediate family members, and all other enablers. And then
(12:39):
she goes on she puts a let me see if
I can switch talking about her sister. But her sister,
Elizabeth Reid, knows what Karen Reid did on January twenty ninth,
twenty twenty two. So here's Karen Reid's younger sister, Elizabeth
(13:00):
not an enabler. Karen Reid does not mention her younger
sister Elizabeth in public. But on October thirtieth, twenty twenty four,
Vanity Fair published a story by Innocent's fraudster and gaslight
Julie Miller, headed Karen Reid tells her story. Part two,
a new trial looms in Massachusetts. Julie Miller writes of
(13:21):
Karen Reid. So this is the Julie Miller that moved
in with Karen Reid to write a story. I mean,
you can't make this stuff up. No journalistic integrity needed.
Just move right in with the accused murderer. Though this
chapter of her life has been dark and arduous, retells
(13:45):
me She's witnessed the best and worst of humanity because
of it, the evil people my life. You know who
you are, she says, once again, directing her answers towards
people who don't hear her. You know what you did.
I'm at peace with my maker and you, I promise not.
Karen Reid is said to not like her younger sister Elizabeth. Therefore,
(14:07):
was this who her cruel and callous message above was
aimed at? So was she aiming that? Was she saying
that Elizabeth knows that she's evil, and she knows what
she did. So here's Karen and there's Elizabeth and her
(14:27):
brother Nathan, And that's from the entertainment TV show A
Body in the Snow. And when will Karen Read or
her sister Elizabeth address what went down in the Read
household over Christmas twenty twenty one. So that's just like
a little history nobody asks about, like where's her sister,
(14:55):
Why isn't her sister supporting her little h So moving back, So,
on December thirtieth, twenty twenty one, they were in Aruba
(15:16):
having vacation John O'Keefe. This is after she spent Christmas
alone along with his niece and nephew and Karen Reid,
they flew out to Aruba and on the thirty first
of December, Karen Reid attacked Mary Eda Sullivan in the
lobby of their hotel room after falsely claiming she caught
(15:37):
John O'Keefe kissing Marietta. And on the fifth of January
they all went back home and within a week she's
texting Brian Higgins. So they left early from that Aruba vacation.
And John, if you listen to the testimony and I
(15:59):
played it recently of Marietta and Laura Sullivan, where Laura
Sullivan talks about trying to get John O'Keeffe to open
up and how he wasn't himself and he was distant,
and how they left and when he said do you
want to book for next year, he was like, I
(16:21):
look like I need some time to get over this vacation.
So the vacation was like a thing. It was like
a stressful event, not not something relaxing for him at all,
and thanks to Karen Reid and her behavior. But Karen
Reid began flirting and texting with ATF agent Brian Higgins
a week after flying back from Aruba. In one text,
(16:44):
Karen had said to Brian, I'm queen of vay case too,
always a good time. Well, it wasn't a good time
at Aruba and Innocence fraud. Roch writes his high unlikely
John and his niece and nephew and Laura Muretta Sullivan
would have agreed with Karen's statement to Brian that it's
(17:06):
always a good time, that she's queen of vacation. It's
given what went down in Aruba. I mean she swear,
I mean they're swearing in each other. I mean it's
just like not the kind of upset you want to
have on a vacation. On the sixteenth of twenty twenty two,
(17:27):
things have deteriorated. In the early morning hours of January sixteenth,
Brian Higgins left John O'Keefe's house, having arrived a few
hours earlier to watch part of the Patriots' playoff game
against the Buffalo Bills. Karen had suggested. She walked Brian
out through the downstairs garage, and while doing so, she
(17:47):
made a move on him and surprised him with a
romantic kiss, and Karen Reid writes, Higgins hit on me
all the time, never laid a pinky finger on him.
Here's another one of her lies that her supporters ignore.
Why do they all ignore her lies all the time?
It's so odd, isn't it. Hours later, and now at
(18:10):
home in Mansfield, Karen had texted Brian that things have
deteriorated between her and John. The eighteenth of January twenty
twenty two, Karen told Brian Higgins that John O'Keefe's heart
isn't in it. In relation to the kids, Karen Reid writes,
(18:31):
it's very, very complicated dynamic with the four of us.
He isn't cut out for what he's doing, meaning he's
not cut out for raising children. It's not that she's
not cut out for raising children and has zero empathy.
And the kids present constant issues. Well, the kids presented
constant issues were taking away attention away from Karen Reid
(18:52):
for one thing, And Karen Reid wrote John O'Keefe on
those last text messages that the kids made things toxic
between them, so she blamed all the problems between It's
not her behavior, it's the presence of these children that
are making things so difficult for her and John O'Keefe.
I believe he believes what he's doing is right, Brian writes.
(19:16):
Karen read writes, well, of course he is, but his
heart isn't in it. It's only because he was very
very close to his sister on the January twenty eight,
twenty twenty two, but ten days later, after telling Brian
that John's heart isn't into it in relating to the kids,
Karen had texted John on at five fourteen, twenty three
(19:39):
and said his heart isn't into this, referring to their relationship.
I know your heart isn't into this anymore. I felt
it for a while, and especially lately. Again, it's it's
not her relentless control and need to keep powering control
(20:00):
over John that has made the relationship unbearable for John O'Keefe.
It's the children. Below are extracts from further text between
Karen Reid and Brian Higgins, in which Karen chose to
admit to tell Brian all what went down in the
days before flying out to Aruba. She writes, I try
(20:26):
very hard, but they are very spoiled, and they're not
my family. My parents keep telling me I'd feel differently
if they were mine or my sisters, So this seems
like something she's just made up. Why knowing that they
don't get along, her parents are telling her she'd feel
better if they were these kids were from her sister
(20:49):
who she hates. They hate each other, she'd love her
the children of the sibling she despises. It doesn't this
just sounds like something she just made up. Here, Brian
Higgins says, what did he exactly do? And Karen Reid
ignores that and says, I never got married, and now
somehow I'm arguing with someone about raising kids. Brian Higgins writes,
(21:14):
why won't you tell me he was a puddle all
day and then disappeared. Then I found him all over
friend's sister in the lobby of our hotel, and she's gross,
which I think may even be worse. Not sure. Oh God,
did they bang? Karen Reid writes, So I was celebrate.
(21:36):
I was with the kids, celebrating without him, which shouldn't
be my role. No, I doubt it. He was a mess.
Was it the first time with her? Or do you
think there were others? Brian Wright. Karen writes back, I
don't really think there were others. I'm with him all
the time. He never seems to want to go anywhere
(21:59):
without me. But honestly, the issue with the kids bothers
me more than him actually cheating. They're constantly, They're constant,
and it feels like a lose lose. Aaron o'keef's testimony
was that Karen Reid and John O'Keefe had bickered. So
bickered is like a minimizing word here about her taking them,
(22:21):
and he said that she spoiled them. Let's take a
red look at that testimony, shall we?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
On that date January.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Again, it's just a bummer with this first trial with hearing.
I just put the words up so you can read it.
Try to. So on that date, January twenty eighth, what
if any conversation did you have with miss Reid on
that day?
Speaker 6 (22:52):
What if any conversation did you have with Miss Reid
on that day?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
She had texted me while I was waiting for the
school bus, asking if there was any chance I was
out without Paul.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Was that a typical thing that she would text you?
As far as the without Paul Parker, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
A curious thing. So Karen read's texting is Paul there?
So it makes you wonder if this is something that
they did. Did they talk badly about their partners together?
Did they talk badly about the o'key family together?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:29):
And you indicated that you were waiting for the schools, correct,
And at that time in January twenty twenty two, you
had two daughters correct?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, correct the school as far as on the.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Same bus, No, they were not their separate schools.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
So I'd say one was maybe an elementary one was
in middle school.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
So as far as around that time that you received
the text, would that have been the younger daughter or
the older daughter that you were waiting.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
For us, the younger daughter. It was after three o'clock.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
And who comes home or at that time? Who came
home first?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
The younger daughter, our older daughter?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And when you receive that text from the defendant, what
if anything.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Did you or how did you respond to I said
that we I was waiting for the school bus and
we had basketball on Friday nights.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
And the basketball on Friday nights? Was that something that
was one of your daughters or both both? And do
you recall, well, let me ask you this with regard
to your daughter's basketball at least at that time, what
if any sort of relationship did your husband have to
those basketballs?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
He was the coach for both of them.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And was that something that was sort of like a
local league?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Is that correct?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
And that all of you and by all I mean yourself,
your husband, and the two girls that.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You all go to both games that night?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And you recall about what time those games.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Were six or seven?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Now, this Read reached out to you and texted you,
and then you responded as you described, What if any
further conversation did you have with mister Read on that day?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I asked her if everything was okay, if something was up,
and she responded and said, just another day. I wish
I didn't talk to An O'Keeffe after two thousand and four.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And how did you? Which is such an odd thing
to say, because again, Aaron O'Keeffe is an O'Keefe by marriage,
but an O'Keefe. And if she didn't speak to An
O'Keefe after two thousand and four, she wouldn't have she
wouldn't have any friendship with Aaron O'Keeffe. It's like saying
to someone's face, I wish I never met you in
(25:58):
your whole family. What even if it's extended family. I said,
what happened? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And they had bickered, I guess about her taking Kayle
to Dunkin Donuts in the morning before school.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And just to be.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Clear, when you say that, you mean John o'keefan correct.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So this is you know, Aaron never says where she
heard this from. Did Karen tell this to her? Did
Aaron hear about this after the fact? Where is this
origin of this dunkin Donut story is? I think innocent
Rodwatch fairly debunked it. By the text messages, it seemed
(26:46):
like Karen Reid was rejected by she made some advances
towards John o'keefan he rejected them. That morning when she
came back after dropping Caylee off to school, was just
into it. She said, I tried to give you a kiss,
and is it whacked a pillow in my face? So
am I right on that it's my memory of it.
(27:11):
But then it's gotten changed to this dunkin donut story.
But it's also a fault of Adam Lalley and that
he doesn't ask like, how did you hear this?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Do you recall sort of how that conversation evolved or
what if anything else was said during that time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I just knew that they had.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Gotten into some type I don't know if it was
an argument or there was something. They bickered about her
taking them and he said that she spoiled them.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Which is always a word that the Karen Reid uses.
See again, it's like we have an unreliable narrator, Karen
Reid telling the story. She treats them too well, and
that's what everyone objects to, or is it is a
way to triangulate and go against the rules of the
(28:12):
house and set up John O'Keeffe against the kids and
get the kids to like her. I mean spoiled is
Karen Reid sounds like Karen Reid's version. I mean, just
treat them too well when I'm not calling them toxic
(28:33):
and horribly spoiled in a problem in my life. I
really think Kayley was the big problem because she was
(28:53):
older and a young the teenager at that point, and harder.
It would have been harder to control. But these are
you know, just to mind these remind everybody that these
are orphans, terribly traumatized children where Karen Reid could not
(29:18):
be the center of attention because they needed so much attention,
and Karen Reid obviously resented that.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Now, as far as your conversation with Miss Reid in
regards to weekends, what if anything.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
To two of you talk about as far as.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I said, I was anticipating a storm, so was probably
going to hang in the neighborhood with everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Now as far as later on in that after.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
That's another thing, you know. I mean, Karen Reid was
told over and over again, it's going to be a storm,
it's going to be a storm. It's going to be
a storm. And you have this boyfriend, John O'Keefe who
never wears a jacket and things are going very badly?
Does that start your wheel spinning?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
That?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Wow, if he got caught in that storm, things could
be very badly in a way. If he got incapacitated
and that storm, things could end up very badly for him.
If you were looking to quote unquote, as Karen Reid says,
teach him a lesson. Karen Reid says, to think that
this crime wasn't planned is a mistake, is it? Karen
Reid's words, What.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
If any sort of further communication did you receive from
his read day?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I think the last text was a picture something that
popped up in her memories of my children and Kayley
and Patrick from the cape that summer and said, this
just popped up in my memories and made me smile.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Now, did you have occasion to talk with miss Read
any further on that?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, that was it? Okay, So that's that. That is that.
Let mean how peace plans. Let me turn this off
so it's not my head phones. Okay, So back back
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back to the end of this blog. We're almost at
the end. Okay. So if Karen Reid and Karen Read's parents,
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William and Janet Reid had told Karen she would feel
differently if John O'Keefe's niece and nephew were hers or
her own sisters. This alone would demonstrate how out of
touch and ignorant they are. And not only were John
o'keef and and read not together all the time as
Christmas holidays of twenty twenty one evidence Karen would make
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it difficult for John to go anywhere without her right
so constant, constant eye on her. And this is I
was trying to look for this the other day for
some reason. I thought it was in the beginning of
the interview, and it was at the end. But here's
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Brenda Kane talking about this picture. Let me pull it up.
Hold on, Let's see if I can close some of
these things down, so maybe my screen will cooperate a
little bit more. Let me just show you. So there's
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this picture of Brendan Caine and John O'Keefe and the
reason that it was taken. Brendan Kin will tell you
about in just a second. So this picture. So when
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Brendan King's interviewed, you often see this picture, but this
was taken for this reason. Take a take a take
a please, hold I should have gotten this, But you know,
the picture that I used on the thumbnail of you
and John has like an interesting history. Do you want
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to do you want to talk about that, like how
that picture was taken.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, So so you know, when all this happened and
people are looking for you, get pictures of you as
as I don't know, this is like a male thing.
And and the fact that we didn't have cell phones
in our pockets take pictures every five minutes. But like
we weren't like taking polarid pictures of ourselves like like
in high school or you know, at a bar in college.
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Like it just we weren't documenting the stuff we were doing.
So a lot of the pictures that that I was
able on earth either came from my mom's closet from
the time we were four to the time we were twelve,
from birthday parties and then I'm actually really thankful that
I have this picture you're referring to, which is the
last picture we ever took again, one of not very many,
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but I kind of forgot about it a little bit
and the context, but it was we took a picture
on Lansdown Street. It was the last Red Sox game
we ever went to It was the fall of the
Fall of twenty one, and that was the other piece
with Johnny was was there's always great parking. He'd always
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to eat great parking. BPD would take care of their
own on the parking. As we go to Fenway, we
have a good spot and we went into the Landsdown
bar and he wanted to take a picture, and I'm
sure I said something like why what are you doing?
And his response was essentially he had to prove to
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Karen where he was and who he was with. I
found that very odd and that was like my first
red flag where my spidy senses were tingling, like, wait,
what you know. I know some couple share location and such.
I share my location with my wife for safety, not
because she's worried about where I am.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
So that was the first.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't think Karen Reid was worried. She wasn't worried.
She was just keeping a constant eye on her victim.
I mean just had to have absolute power and control
over him. And if this gets lost in the civil trial,
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did they go with this nonsense? Karen Reid was so
jealous when we know that one of the things that
abusers do female abusers, is they accuse their partners of
having affairs when they're not, just to get them on
the back foot, to to get them in a submissive position.
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And I don't know if there was so much shame
around this issue or what, but or lack of being
able to see it clearly for what it was, because
it's a woman doing it, not a man. But if
Karen Rerider were a man and she ran over, if
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a woman was run over the way John O'Keefe was
and left to die in the snow, the whole narrative
of the criminal case would have been DV. It had
to be. You couldn't have looked at it any other
way and then left messages I hate you, you're a pervert.
That would be the narrative. But when a woman does it,
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it's like alcohol. She snapped, she didn't know she hit him.
I mean, even people on this side were saying like,
she didn't know what she did, but she just gathered
up an audience so they could watch her pretend to
find him and watch her theatrics, pretend to be upset
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and then pretend to be hysterical. I mean, you can
hear Kerry Roberts interview is she's still like last one
I heard was she was still saying, like Karen REI
didn't know where she was, where John O'Keeffe was. She
just led me right to him, exactly where he was
in the snow. I don't even know if they know
what they're saying. If there these witnesses have been brainwashed
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by Karen Reid's innocence fraud propaganda or not, I don't know.
I don't know what the mental block is it trauma?
Is it something? Is it trauma? Is it the innocence
fraud campaign? But Karen ree knew where he was, she
led them right to No one else saw him, and
Karen Reid's kicking her door saying, let me out, let
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me out. But also another really ghosted detail, of course,
is the plumber story. And why the plumber story is
so important? Is I believe Karen Reid was making up
a story about a plumber to delay coming out just
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to make John o'keee feel expendable. Unless then and that
totally got ghosted both trials. You think this is going
to come out in the civil trial.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Everyone is waiting for me to arrive at the bar
and lass I'm making up a new cold star. His
name is a Ritchie. The plumber. No hot water, it's
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a bummer. It's all the figment of my imagined dation.
Call it a lie. I'm faint right, full indignation. Call
the plumber.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
I got a rusty pipe. Hot water is not working.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I'll start in a fight. Sure is a lie, but
it's a little one.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Gotta get my boyfriend under my phone. John says he
and his papa would have fisted. It's only this broken pipe.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
In real life, existing, causing pain and suffering is what
I do best.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Hood in my boyfriend's patience, through test after test.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
Richie, my imaginary plumber is at home deed, both hoping.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
That story will get a rise out of my boyfriend
and his a little beadle.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
I'll arrive at the bush, hollin up late, make him
angry right out of the gate.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
He's saw I feeling lovey, dubby. I'm done right. Twistin's coming.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
I'll tell lady drinks and on him over after it
gets late, scream and.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Cry it's you John, who I hate.
Speaker 9 (40:35):
Leave him to die in a blizzard, inflicting pain on
a whizar can jender Call nine one one have the
whole town pointing fingers when it's over and dune.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Okay. So another odd thing is Karen Reid's use of
who she calls after who she calls that morning. So
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Michael Camerano we know, So beginning at four forty six,
she doesn't call, she doesn't text or call Brian Higgins,
but she's calling the Cameranos. So Brian Higgins had last
text at Karen Reid while they were at the waterfall
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at around eleven thirty two. Well, the above text would
presumably be the last text Karen Reid received on her
iPhone on January twenty eight, twenty twenty two, and presumingly,
Brian higgins eleven thirty two um text was also the
last received sitting in Karen Reid's iPhone inbox at four
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point thirty on January twenty ninth. So why did Karen
Reid first choose to contact John O'Keeffe's friend Michael Camerano
multiple times, beginning at for forty six forty one am
as opposed to Brian Higgins. This makes no logical sense. Plus,
just a few hours earlier, Karen Reid had told John
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O'Keeffe that Michael Camerano is a little off with her
and apparently been for a while now. So was that
her first victim? Like she knew that the I think
she knew the Cameranos were the type who would dis
judging by their evidence the way they gave it, their evidence,
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to put their head down and say the least incriminating things.
Catherine Camerano strangely can't remember anything that Karen Reid yelled
that morning. It was all a lot of yelling, yelled said.
Everyone else remembers incriminating statements, but Catherine Camerano, all she
heard was a lot of yelling. And we know what
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it took for Michael Camerano to mention the plumber and
John o'keef being upset with Karenrie that night. So why
did Karen Reed choose to contact Michael Camerano, who allegedly
had been off with her, but not Brian Higgins, who
clearly hadn't been off with her. Karen Reid also texted
Brian Higgins. John died at eleven fifty four a m.
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When she was on her way to John O'Keeffe's house
with her father, brother, and sister in law to retrieve
her murder weapon and laptop after leaving the Good Samaritan Hospital,
Yet she didn't send a text like this to Michael Camerano.
Why did Karen Rei choose to text Brian Haiggins John
died but avoided letting him know John O'Keeffe was allegedly
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missing young son injured in a hockey accident. Michael Camerono
had received a call while he was in C. F.
McCarthy's pub and had to leave around an hour after
Karen Reid arrived because his young son was hit in
the face with a hockey stick and had lost a
tooth in the accident. Karen Reid had served four units
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of vodka. She had been served excuse me, four units
of vodka by the time Michael Camerano left the pub,
so she would not have forgotten about the child's accident.
In fact, Karen Reid was the last person seen talking
to Michael Camerono at around ten six fifty four PM
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as he was making his way to the door to
leave the pub, which he did at around ten oh
seven three, So there he is leaving. So if Karen
Reid did think John O'Keeffe was missing at four thirty am,
she didn't why did she contact Michael Camerano multiple times
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before anyone else? And not only did Karen Reid last
see Brian Higgins in the Waterfall Bar and receive an
eleven thirty two text from him, she would have seen
his light gray jeep parked up near the mailbox outside
thirty four Fairview as she slowly creeped along in her
car to near the flagpole at around twelve twenty four
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to twenty nine, And Karen Reid would have also been
aware of Brian Higgins like gray jeep parked up behind
her while she was arguing with John o'keef for over
seven minutes while they were inside her car still near
the flagpole. Karen Reid would have seen Brian Higgins like
gray jeep at around twelve thirty two sixteen after carrying
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out her second three point turn to drive back to
Cedarcrest Road. Did and if Karen Reid really did think
John O'Keeffe was missing at four thirty am, why did
she call an acquaintance as she referred to Jen McKay
on page eleven of her April twelfth to thirty, twenty
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twenty three Motion for Order pursuant to mass our criminal
directed to Brian Albert Verizon in aight and T instead
of Brian Higgins. So looking at her phone data, Karen
Reid received a text from John O'Keeffe reading Blizzard tomorrow
Nobody's going anywhere at eight thirty three fifty six, and
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at eight thirty five thirty four, Karen received a text
from John O'Keeffe reading shore. At eleven thirty two, Karen
received a text from Brian Higgins, reading um, well, so
that's at eleven thirty two PM that's Karen received that
text from Brian Higgins and at four forty six forty
one AM, Karen calls Michael Camerono four forty seven nineteen.
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She's calling mi co Camerano again. Four forty seven fifty
seven Karen read again Michael Camerano four forty nine, calling
Michael Camerano again four forty nine twenty four, She's calling
Katherine Camerano four fifty four fifty one fifty one am.
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Karen Reid's called the Katherine Camerano ended, and at four
fifty six thirty nine, Katherine Camerano called Karen Reid back,
and at four fifty nine thirty six, Katherine Camerano's call
to Karen Reid ended more importantly, Why did Karen Reid
call John o'keef's friend Brian Higgins, whose phone number and
photos she had stored in her phone and who's eleven
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thirty two pm text would have been the last received
text showing up in her inbox. Karen Reid had been
flirting with, kissing and telling Brian Higgins intimate details about
herself since January twelve, twenty twenty two. During the Dallance Dalliance.
Karen Reid chose to tell Brian Hicks she allegedly had
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colon cancer and ten surgeries in eighteen months, that she
was selling her house, and that she was allegedly thinking
of moving to Tiverton. I've been very sick, she writes them.
I've had colon cancer and ten surgeries in eighteen months.
I'm a wreck. I had no idea, Are you okay? Now?
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Nobody else had any idea either, because it was a
lie another liese that she was selling her house. Karen
Reid had also been over to Brian Higgins's house on
January nineteenth, just ten days earlier. Because I just assumed
you were happy with your situation. I was, but things
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have deteriorated. So why did Karen Reid contact Brian Higgins?
If Karen Reid had checked her iPhone at four point
thirty to see if John o'keef had texted or called her,
the last text sitting in her inbox would have been
from Brian Higgins, who she had last seen more recently
in the Waterfall Bar, not McCarthy's pub from where Michael
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Camerono had to leave earlier to pick up his son.
So Karen Reid continues to hide all of her iPhone
data from her dupes and her enablers and who would
have known knowingly been involved in promoting her this innocent
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fraud phenomenon scam like Aiden Turtleboy Carney because and they
don't care about it because it aids their own fraud.
Aiden Karney published a blog on May tenth, twenty twenty two,
twenty three, as part of his fraudulent Canton cover up
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fire Hose of fire Hose of Falsehood blog series with
the header what's been hidden on Karen Reid's cell phone?
And he's avoided the topic ever since? Did Karen read
delete her messages between herself and Brian Higgins? From her
iPhone before police sees her iPhone. And it would be
a really good idea if anyone who received messages from
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Karen Reid to put them out in the public domain,
whether it's Aaron O'Keeffe or Jen McCabe or Carrie Roberts,
put out those text messages because Karen Reid is hiding
them all. And when accused killers had their cell phone data,
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it's or hot or basically ghost anything. It's usually something important.
Why did killer choose to target an acquaintance? And why
did Karen Reid target Jen McCabe as opposed to Brian
Higgins If she generally thought John O'Keefe was missing at
four thirty am. Jennifer McCabe was a stay at home mom,
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mother of four, whereas Brian Haiggins was an ATF agent.
So what was Karen Reid's logic and reason to target
the former? If John O'Keeffe was allegedly missing, and Karen
Reid had said they got into a fight and she
left him at the waterfall, why not contact someone like
Brian Higgins for help allegedly locating missing quote unquote missing
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John instead of Michael Camerano, who had only been in
McCarthy's pub for an hour, all really good points. I mean,
she seemed to me obvious that she's targeting people that
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she could put later point the finger at get to
call nine one one. I mean to me, it's highly
significant that Jen McCabe called nine one one and Karen
Reid didn't, And Karen Reid got Jen McCabe to search
how long to dine the cold Well, Karen didn't so
she could point the finger at them later. I think
she's been doing this her whole life, mixing in characters
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and pointing in the finger at them instead of herself.
Because if she had gone and found where she left
John O'Keeffe after reversing into him with her foot seventy
five percent down on the gas pedal at twenty four
miles per an hour, she went back that morning to
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where she left him to find him and then called
nine to one one alone, it would just be Karen Reid.
Who else would there be to be lane, No one
else but Karen Reid. So that is what I have
for today. So this will just go on and on
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until the I hope the civil lawyers will get smarter
on this, and you know they're not just fighting. I
think the mistake is the idea that they can just
win in court because they have because the facts, the facts,
will just win their case. When they're dealing with an
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innocence fraud campaign, it's a little bit different. It will
the jury has already been so compromised and so tainted
that they really do have to think about getting If
I were Karen Reid civil lawyers, I would get out
all the information I could out into the public domain,
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the details that have been hidden in this case. It's
the most important thing, and start working on a really
true narrative of this case instead of the fake, phony
narrative we heard at trial with the Karen read is
so jealous nonsense. That would be my advice. So please
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Speaker 2 (56:51):
If the
Okay, just to be clear, you didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up. You all know if
John was beaten up and attacked in that house. Who
did it?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We don't know. We don't know, and it's not for
us to know.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Somebody other than Karen. Somebody other than Karen is responsible
for that, for the killing of John.
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All the usual suspects are here. So today the big
subject is, of course, every time I think I'm being
pulled back out, I am pulled back in with Karen Reid.
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And now she's gonna have a NonStop propaganda channel YouTube
channel by Nick Rocco, former lottery winner and Karen Reid loyalists,
is gonna head up her YouTube channel ahead of her.
(02:26):
Let me see if I can show you hold on
one second. Who there? It is so ahead of her
civil trial. So this is announced on X today. In
the next couple weeks, I'm launching a YouTube show this
is what Nick Roco writes, that will give you exclusive
access to Karen's defense team during the civil trial. The
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show will mainly feature guests, mostly from the defense team. Strangely,
he's not going to have the plaintiff's team on. He's
not gonna have the Okeef lawyers on. I'm shocked or
any any of the any of the prosecutors, prosecutor Adam Lally,
Hank Brettan from the criminal trial to break down their
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motions and discuss what's currently happening in the case. So
they're going to be propagandizing NonStop until the civil trial commences.
So we don't know, you know, I announced last episode
that that they handed in their motion. This is Karen
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Reid's lawyers, and she's dropped some lawyers and added others,
so it's like still a big team of lawyers, but
some have been dropped and some have been added. So
she's coming in with a huge amount of lawyers for
the civil trial and she will continue to propagandize the public,
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but that motion to add in other people. So it's
really a crazy emotion in relation to what this case
is all about, meaning the civil case. So the civil
case is a case brought on by the O'Keefe family
for wrongful death, very much like and is often compared
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to Oj Simpson and when he got away with murdering
Ron Goldman and his wife ex wife Nicole Brown Simpson,
he was sued by the Goldman family civilly for wrongful death.
And in this case, the o'keefes are suing Karen Read
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for wrongful death in a civil case where our civil
courts the bar of evidence is much lower. You just
have to prove it's more likely so than not. And
I don't think the burden of proof was ever the
really big hurdle here. It was always Karen Reid's innocence
fraud campaign. In my view, that was the big hurdle.
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And a prosecution team that really failed to bring out
all the evidence against Karen Reid and including all her
text messages and past history and whatever else that they
could bring in to court. There was a lot of
missing pieces in the criminal trial. They also went with
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the idea that she was so jealous instead of really
going with the truer narrative, which is a narrative of
domestic violence, so murder at the end of a long
string of domestic violence. So it probably never felt true,
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along with all the innocence fraud campaign to the jury,
because it really wasn'tn't the true narrative that Karen Reid
was so jealous and she just heard about Bella's mom
in the car and she flipped out. She flipped out.
I've always said that was nonsense, and son, I'll double
down on it tonight. Hey, Wesley, let's begin with some
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cat door cash. Thank you very much. I appreciate it, Wesley,
thanks for supporting the channel. So ahead of that, I mean,
she's gonna sounds like she's going to go the same
way that she went with the criminal case, which is
just continuing to propagandize the public. So meaning try this
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case outside in the court of opinion where there is
no rules, and with Judge Canoni in the criminal case,
there really were hardly any rules in the inside the
court either wasn't much difference. It was like the Wild
WestEd there those crivital trials with Karen Reid wild I've
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never seen such an out of control courtroom as Judge
Canoni's courtroom, as far as just flagrantly breaking the rules
by Karen Reid's defense attorneys, and they were called out
for it eventually, but nothing happened and still hasn't happened
to those lawyers were lying to the court or having
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a lack of candor to the court, which is essentially lying.
Does everybody remember when that happened. Karen Reid's lawyers were
called out for their heinous They're just lying, straight up lying,
presented a witness as if it were like the ark
of witnesses like they were in partial witnesses that they
weren't being paid. Turns out they were being paid. They
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could have they could have gotten an acquittal on the
first trial, just done totally bogus, bogus testimony. And I mean,
we talked about corruption, but the corruption was really from
the defense team in this case. But going forward, so
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I've been talking a lot about Karen Reid spending Christmas
alone and what was a total deterioration of her what
was her relationship with John O'Keeffe. Things were at a
breaking point if you'd listen to the We couldn't listen
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to the testimony, but we did read about it from
Cayley and Patrick, John o'keef's niece, a nephew who he
was the guardian of along with some other members of
the family, but who he raised. They talk about John
O'Keeffe asking Karen Reid to leave his home and she
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refused before Karen Reid reversed into him. So about a
week before she was being asked to leave the home
and she's refusing. John o'keeff telling Karen Reid that the
relationship had run its course, that it wasn't healthy, that
John O'Keeffe had recognized that it wasn't healthy. Talked about
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on this channel how Karen Reid demanded proof of where
John O'Keeffe was with a picture and who he was with,
so that the last text messages between them, that last
day of text messages between them, John O'Keeffe is sending
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a picture of his dad next to him on the
couch to prove to Karen where he is and who
he's with. She was keeping intense control over her victim.
(10:03):
And this is a continuation of that. Is you can
see a continuation of this kind of power and control
in her text messages with Brian Higgins and also her
contradictory statements. So this is another excellent blog. You're not
(10:27):
following Innocent FraudWatch, you're missing out how cop killer and
malignant narcissist Karen Reid and her contradictory statements and web
of lies help expose her manipulative tactics and guilt, including
Brian Higgins, text, Aaron O'Keeffe, and sister Elizabeth reads. So
we're going to get all into that, her relationship with
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her sister Elizabeth Reid, who we've never seen. It's always
her brother Nathan. Elizabeth Reid has been missing in action.
Mia twenty fourth, December twenty one, Karen Reid took over
John o'keef and his niece and nephew and family and
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friends traditional Christmas get together to keep the focus on her.
So they had there a certain ritual. I'll get into
this in a later episode, but Karen Reid insisted on
her own and she decided who was going to be
invited and who wasn't going to be invited. Was John
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O'Keefe one of his oldest friends, Brendan Cain, who had
a tradition of coming over on Christmas Eve with his
wife and daughter. But before that Christmas Eve, John O'Keeffe
called Brendan Kane and said, my sister has a sorry,
my sister in law Aaron O'Keefe. So Paul O'Keeffe's wife,
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Aaron has a problem with COVID and it's going to
be family only, and he was like, okay. But when reality,
it was nobody had a problem with COVID. It was
Karen who didn't want Brendan Cain there for whatever reason.
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So she was starting to isolate John o'keef from his friends.
So Karen Reid spent Christmas Day alone at her home
in Mansfield. This highly significant fact has been hidden by Karen,
her immediate family members, and all other enablers. And then
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she goes on she puts a let me see if
I can switch talking about her sister. But her sister,
Elizabeth Reid, knows what Karen Reid did on January twenty ninth,
twenty twenty two. So here's Karen Reid's younger sister, Elizabeth
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not an enabler. Karen Reid does not mention her younger
sister Elizabeth in public. But on October thirtieth, twenty twenty four,
Vanity Fair published a story by Innocent's fraudster and gaslight
Julie Miller, headed Karen Reid tells her story. Part two,
a new trial looms in Massachusetts. Julie Miller writes of
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Karen Reid. So this is the Julie Miller that moved
in with Karen Reid to write a story. I mean,
you can't make this stuff up. No journalistic integrity needed.
Just move right in with the accused murderer. Though this
chapter of her life has been dark and arduous, retells
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me She's witnessed the best and worst of humanity because
of it, the evil people my life. You know who
you are, she says, once again, directing her answers towards
people who don't hear her. You know what you did.
I'm at peace with my maker and you, I promise not.
Karen Reid is said to not like her younger sister Elizabeth. Therefore,
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was this who her cruel and callous message above was
aimed at? So was she aiming that? Was she saying
that Elizabeth knows that she's evil, and she knows what
she did. So here's Karen and there's Elizabeth and her
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brother Nathan, And that's from the entertainment TV show A
Body in the Snow. And when will Karen Read or
her sister Elizabeth address what went down in the Read
household over Christmas twenty twenty one. So that's just like
a little history nobody asks about, like where's her sister,
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Why isn't her sister supporting her little h So moving back, So,
on December thirtieth, twenty twenty one, they were in Aruba
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having vacation John O'Keefe. This is after she spent Christmas
alone along with his niece and nephew and Karen Reid,
they flew out to Aruba and on the thirty first
of December, Karen Reid attacked Mary Eda Sullivan in the
lobby of their hotel room after falsely claiming she caught
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John O'Keefe kissing Marietta. And on the fifth of January
they all went back home and within a week she's
texting Brian Higgins. So they left early from that Aruba vacation.
And John, if you listen to the testimony and I
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played it recently of Marietta and Laura Sullivan, where Laura
Sullivan talks about trying to get John O'Keeffe to open
up and how he wasn't himself and he was distant,
and how they left and when he said do you
want to book for next year, he was like, I
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look like I need some time to get over this vacation.
So the vacation was like a thing. It was like
a stressful event, not not something relaxing for him at all,
and thanks to Karen Reid and her behavior. But Karen
Reid began flirting and texting with ATF agent Brian Higgins
a week after flying back from Aruba. In one text,
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Karen had said to Brian, I'm queen of vay case too,
always a good time. Well, it wasn't a good time
at Aruba and Innocence fraud. Roch writes his high unlikely
John and his niece and nephew and Laura Muretta Sullivan
would have agreed with Karen's statement to Brian that it's
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always a good time, that she's queen of vacation. It's
given what went down in Aruba. I mean she swear,
I mean they're swearing in each other. I mean it's
just like not the kind of upset you want to
have on a vacation. On the sixteenth of twenty twenty two,
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things have deteriorated. In the early morning hours of January sixteenth,
Brian Higgins left John O'Keefe's house, having arrived a few
hours earlier to watch part of the Patriots' playoff game
against the Buffalo Bills. Karen had suggested. She walked Brian
out through the downstairs garage, and while doing so, she
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made a move on him and surprised him with a
romantic kiss, and Karen Reid writes, Higgins hit on me
all the time, never laid a pinky finger on him.
Here's another one of her lies that her supporters ignore.
Why do they all ignore her lies all the time?
It's so odd, isn't it. Hours later, and now at
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home in Mansfield, Karen had texted Brian that things have
deteriorated between her and John. The eighteenth of January twenty
twenty two, Karen told Brian Higgins that John O'Keefe's heart
isn't in it. In relation to the kids, Karen Reid writes,
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it's very, very complicated dynamic with the four of us.
He isn't cut out for what he's doing, meaning he's
not cut out for raising children. It's not that she's
not cut out for raising children and has zero empathy.
And the kids present constant issues. Well, the kids presented
constant issues were taking away attention away from Karen Reid
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for one thing, And Karen Reid wrote John O'Keefe on
those last text messages that the kids made things toxic
between them, so she blamed all the problems between It's
not her behavior, it's the presence of these children that
are making things so difficult for her and John O'Keefe.
I believe he believes what he's doing is right, Brian writes.
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Karen read writes, well, of course he is, but his
heart isn't in it. It's only because he was very
very close to his sister on the January twenty eight,
twenty twenty two, but ten days later, after telling Brian
that John's heart isn't into it in relating to the kids,
Karen had texted John on at five fourteen, twenty three
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and said his heart isn't into this, referring to their relationship.
I know your heart isn't into this anymore. I felt
it for a while, and especially lately. Again, it's it's
not her relentless control and need to keep powering control
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over John that has made the relationship unbearable for John O'Keefe.
It's the children. Below are extracts from further text between
Karen Reid and Brian Higgins, in which Karen chose to
admit to tell Brian all what went down in the
days before flying out to Aruba. She writes, I try
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very hard, but they are very spoiled, and they're not
my family. My parents keep telling me I'd feel differently
if they were mine or my sisters, So this seems
like something she's just made up. Why knowing that they
don't get along, her parents are telling her she'd feel
better if they were these kids were from her sister
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who she hates. They hate each other, she'd love her
the children of the sibling she despises. It doesn't this
just sounds like something she just made up. Here, Brian
Higgins says, what did he exactly do? And Karen Reid
ignores that and says, I never got married, and now
somehow I'm arguing with someone about raising kids. Brian Higgins writes,
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why won't you tell me he was a puddle all
day and then disappeared. Then I found him all over
friend's sister in the lobby of our hotel, and she's gross,
which I think may even be worse. Not sure. Oh God,
did they bang? Karen Reid writes, So I was celebrate.
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I was with the kids, celebrating without him, which shouldn't
be my role. No, I doubt it. He was a mess.
Was it the first time with her? Or do you
think there were others? Brian Wright. Karen writes back, I
don't really think there were others. I'm with him all
the time. He never seems to want to go anywhere
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without me. But honestly, the issue with the kids bothers
me more than him actually cheating. They're constantly, They're constant,
and it feels like a lose lose. Aaron o'keef's testimony
was that Karen Reid and John O'Keefe had bickered. So
bickered is like a minimizing word here about her taking them,
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and he said that she spoiled them. Let's take a
red look at that testimony, shall we?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
On that date January.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Again, it's just a bummer with this first trial with hearing.
I just put the words up so you can read it.
Try to. So on that date, January twenty eighth, what
if any conversation did you have with miss Reid on
that day?
Speaker 6 (22:52):
What if any conversation did you have with Miss Reid
on that day?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
She had texted me while I was waiting for the
school bus, asking if there was any chance I was
out without Paul.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Was that a typical thing that she would text you?
As far as the without Paul Parker, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
A curious thing. So Karen read's texting is Paul there?
So it makes you wonder if this is something that
they did. Did they talk badly about their partners together?
Did they talk badly about the o'key family together?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:29):
And you indicated that you were waiting for the schools, correct,
And at that time in January twenty twenty two, you
had two daughters correct?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, correct the school as far as on the.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Same bus, No, they were not their separate schools.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
So I'd say one was maybe an elementary one was
in middle school.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
So as far as around that time that you received
the text, would that have been the younger daughter or
the older daughter that you were waiting.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
For us, the younger daughter. It was after three o'clock.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
And who comes home or at that time? Who came
home first?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
The younger daughter, our older daughter?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And when you receive that text from the defendant, what
if anything.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Did you or how did you respond to I said
that we I was waiting for the school bus and
we had basketball on Friday nights.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
And the basketball on Friday nights? Was that something that
was one of your daughters or both both? And do
you recall, well, let me ask you this with regard
to your daughter's basketball at least at that time, what
if any sort of relationship did your husband have to
those basketballs?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
He was the coach for both of them.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And was that something that was sort of like a
local league?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Is that correct?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
And that all of you and by all I mean yourself,
your husband, and the two girls that.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You all go to both games that night?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And you recall about what time those games.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Were six or seven?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Now, this Read reached out to you and texted you,
and then you responded as you described, What if any
further conversation did you have with mister Read on that day?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I asked her if everything was okay, if something was up,
and she responded and said, just another day. I wish
I didn't talk to An O'Keeffe after two thousand and four.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And how did you? Which is such an odd thing
to say, because again, Aaron O'Keeffe is an O'Keefe by marriage,
but an O'Keefe. And if she didn't speak to An
O'Keefe after two thousand and four, she wouldn't have she
wouldn't have any friendship with Aaron O'Keeffe. It's like saying
to someone's face, I wish I never met you in
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your whole family. What even if it's extended family. I said,
what happened? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And they had bickered, I guess about her taking Kayle
to Dunkin Donuts in the morning before school.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And just to be.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Clear, when you say that, you mean John o'keefan correct.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So this is you know, Aaron never says where she
heard this from. Did Karen tell this to her? Did
Aaron hear about this after the fact? Where is this
origin of this dunkin Donut story is? I think innocent
Rodwatch fairly debunked it. By the text messages, it seemed
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like Karen Reid was rejected by she made some advances
towards John o'keefan he rejected them. That morning when she
came back after dropping Caylee off to school, was just
into it. She said, I tried to give you a kiss,
and is it whacked a pillow in my face? So
am I right on that it's my memory of it.
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But then it's gotten changed to this dunkin donut story.
But it's also a fault of Adam Lalley and that
he doesn't ask like, how did you hear this?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Do you recall sort of how that conversation evolved or
what if anything else was said during that time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I just knew that they had.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Gotten into some type I don't know if it was
an argument or there was something. They bickered about her
taking them and he said that she spoiled them.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Which is always a word that the Karen Reid uses.
See again, it's like we have an unreliable narrator, Karen
Reid telling the story. She treats them too well, and
that's what everyone objects to, or is it is a
way to triangulate and go against the rules of the
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house and set up John O'Keeffe against the kids and
get the kids to like her. I mean spoiled is
Karen Reid sounds like Karen Reid's version. I mean, just
treat them too well when I'm not calling them toxic
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and horribly spoiled in a problem in my life. I
really think Kayley was the big problem because she was
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older and a young the teenager at that point, and harder.
It would have been harder to control. But these are
you know, just to mind these remind everybody that these
are orphans, terribly traumatized children where Karen Reid could not
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be the center of attention because they needed so much attention,
and Karen Reid obviously resented that.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Now, as far as your conversation with Miss Reid in
regards to weekends, what if anything.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
To two of you talk about as far as.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I said, I was anticipating a storm, so was probably
going to hang in the neighborhood with everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Now as far as later on in that after.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
That's another thing, you know. I mean, Karen Reid was
told over and over again, it's going to be a storm,
it's going to be a storm. It's going to be
a storm. And you have this boyfriend, John O'Keefe who
never wears a jacket and things are going very badly?
Does that start your wheel spinning?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
That?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Wow, if he got caught in that storm, things could
be very badly in a way. If he got incapacitated
and that storm, things could end up very badly for him.
If you were looking to quote unquote, as Karen Reid says,
teach him a lesson. Karen Reid says, to think that
this crime wasn't planned is a mistake, is it? Karen
Reid's words, What.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
If any sort of further communication did you receive from
his read day?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I think the last text was a picture something that
popped up in her memories of my children and Kayley
and Patrick from the cape that summer and said, this
just popped up in my memories and made me smile.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Now, did you have occasion to talk with miss Read
any further on that?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, that was it? Okay, So that's that. That is that.
Let mean how peace plans. Let me turn this off
so it's not my head phones. Okay, So back back
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back to the end of this blog. We're almost at
the end. Okay. So if Karen Reid and Karen Read's parents,
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William and Janet Reid had told Karen she would feel
differently if John O'Keefe's niece and nephew were hers or
her own sisters. This alone would demonstrate how out of
touch and ignorant they are. And not only were John
o'keef and and read not together all the time as
Christmas holidays of twenty twenty one evidence Karen would make
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it difficult for John to go anywhere without her right
so constant, constant eye on her. And this is I
was trying to look for this the other day for
some reason. I thought it was in the beginning of
the interview, and it was at the end. But here's
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Brenda Kane talking about this picture. Let me pull it up.
Hold on, Let's see if I can close some of
these things down, so maybe my screen will cooperate a
little bit more. Let me just show you. So there's
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this picture of Brendan Caine and John O'Keefe and the
reason that it was taken. Brendan Kin will tell you
about in just a second. So this picture. So when
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Brendan King's interviewed, you often see this picture, but this
was taken for this reason. Take a take a take
a please, hold I should have gotten this, But you know,
the picture that I used on the thumbnail of you
and John has like an interesting history. Do you want
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to do you want to talk about that, like how
that picture was taken.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, So so you know, when all this happened and
people are looking for you, get pictures of you as
as I don't know, this is like a male thing.
And and the fact that we didn't have cell phones
in our pockets take pictures every five minutes. But like
we weren't like taking polarid pictures of ourselves like like
in high school or you know, at a bar in college.
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Like it just we weren't documenting the stuff we were doing.
So a lot of the pictures that that I was
able on earth either came from my mom's closet from
the time we were four to the time we were twelve,
from birthday parties and then I'm actually really thankful that
I have this picture you're referring to, which is the
last picture we ever took again, one of not very many,
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but I kind of forgot about it a little bit
and the context, but it was we took a picture
on Lansdown Street. It was the last Red Sox game
we ever went to It was the fall of the
Fall of twenty one, and that was the other piece
with Johnny was was there's always great parking. He'd always
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to eat great parking. BPD would take care of their
own on the parking. As we go to Fenway, we
have a good spot and we went into the Landsdown
bar and he wanted to take a picture, and I'm
sure I said something like why what are you doing?
And his response was essentially he had to prove to
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Karen where he was and who he was with. I
found that very odd and that was like my first
red flag where my spidy senses were tingling, like, wait,
what you know. I know some couple share location and such.
I share my location with my wife for safety, not
because she's worried about where I am.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
So that was the first.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't think Karen Reid was worried. She wasn't worried.
She was just keeping a constant eye on her victim.
I mean just had to have absolute power and control
over him. And if this gets lost in the civil trial,
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did they go with this nonsense? Karen Reid was so
jealous when we know that one of the things that
abusers do female abusers, is they accuse their partners of
having affairs when they're not, just to get them on
the back foot, to to get them in a submissive position.
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And I don't know if there was so much shame
around this issue or what, but or lack of being
able to see it clearly for what it was, because
it's a woman doing it, not a man. But if
Karen Rerider were a man and she ran over, if
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a woman was run over the way John O'Keefe was
and left to die in the snow, the whole narrative
of the criminal case would have been DV. It had
to be. You couldn't have looked at it any other
way and then left messages I hate you, you're a pervert.
That would be the narrative. But when a woman does it,
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it's like alcohol. She snapped, she didn't know she hit him.
I mean, even people on this side were saying like,
she didn't know what she did, but she just gathered
up an audience so they could watch her pretend to
find him and watch her theatrics, pretend to be upset
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and then pretend to be hysterical. I mean, you can
hear Kerry Roberts interview is she's still like last one
I heard was she was still saying, like Karen REI
didn't know where she was, where John O'Keeffe was. She
just led me right to him, exactly where he was
in the snow. I don't even know if they know
what they're saying. If there these witnesses have been brainwashed
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by Karen Reid's innocence fraud propaganda or not, I don't know.
I don't know what the mental block is it trauma?
Is it something? Is it trauma? Is it the innocence
fraud campaign? But Karen ree knew where he was, she
led them right to No one else saw him, and
Karen Reid's kicking her door saying, let me out, let
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me out. But also another really ghosted detail, of course,
is the plumber story. And why the plumber story is
so important? Is I believe Karen Reid was making up
a story about a plumber to delay coming out just
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to make John o'keee feel expendable. Unless then and that
totally got ghosted both trials. You think this is going
to come out in the civil trial.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Everyone is waiting for me to arrive at the bar
and lass I'm making up a new cold star. His
name is a Ritchie. The plumber. No hot water, it's
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a bummer. It's all the figment of my imagined dation.
Call it a lie. I'm faint right, full indignation. Call
the plumber.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
I got a rusty pipe. Hot water is not working.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I'll start in a fight. Sure is a lie, but
it's a little one.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Gotta get my boyfriend under my phone. John says he
and his papa would have fisted. It's only this broken pipe.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
In real life, existing, causing pain and suffering is what
I do best.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Hood in my boyfriend's patience, through test after test.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
Richie, my imaginary plumber is at home deed, both hoping.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
That story will get a rise out of my boyfriend
and his a little beadle.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
I'll arrive at the bush, hollin up late, make him
angry right out of the gate.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
He's saw I feeling lovey, dubby. I'm done right. Twistin's coming.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
I'll tell lady drinks and on him over after it
gets late, scream and.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Cry it's you John, who I hate.
Speaker 9 (40:35):
Leave him to die in a blizzard, inflicting pain on
a whizar can jender Call nine one one have the
whole town pointing fingers when it's over and dune.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Okay. So another odd thing is Karen Reid's use of
who she calls after who she calls that morning. So
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Michael Camerano we know, So beginning at four forty six,
she doesn't call, she doesn't text or call Brian Higgins,
but she's calling the Cameranos. So Brian Higgins had last
text at Karen Reid while they were at the waterfall
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at around eleven thirty two. Well, the above text would
presumably be the last text Karen Reid received on her
iPhone on January twenty eight, twenty twenty two, and presumingly,
Brian higgins eleven thirty two um text was also the
last received sitting in Karen Reid's iPhone inbox at four
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point thirty on January twenty ninth. So why did Karen
Reid first choose to contact John O'Keeffe's friend Michael Camerano
multiple times, beginning at for forty six forty one am
as opposed to Brian Higgins. This makes no logical sense. Plus,
just a few hours earlier, Karen Reid had told John
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O'Keeffe that Michael Camerano is a little off with her
and apparently been for a while now. So was that
her first victim? Like she knew that the I think
she knew the Cameranos were the type who would dis
judging by their evidence the way they gave it, their evidence,
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to put their head down and say the least incriminating things.
Catherine Camerano strangely can't remember anything that Karen Reid yelled
that morning. It was all a lot of yelling, yelled said.
Everyone else remembers incriminating statements, but Catherine Camerano, all she
heard was a lot of yelling. And we know what
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it took for Michael Camerano to mention the plumber and
John o'keef being upset with Karenrie that night. So why
did Karen Reed choose to contact Michael Camerano, who allegedly
had been off with her, but not Brian Higgins, who
clearly hadn't been off with her. Karen Reid also texted
Brian Higgins. John died at eleven fifty four a m.
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When she was on her way to John O'Keeffe's house
with her father, brother, and sister in law to retrieve
her murder weapon and laptop after leaving the Good Samaritan Hospital,
Yet she didn't send a text like this to Michael Camerano.
Why did Karen Rei choose to text Brian Haiggins John
died but avoided letting him know John O'Keeffe was allegedly
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missing young son injured in a hockey accident. Michael Camerono
had received a call while he was in C. F.
McCarthy's pub and had to leave around an hour after
Karen Reid arrived because his young son was hit in
the face with a hockey stick and had lost a
tooth in the accident. Karen Reid had served four units
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of vodka. She had been served excuse me, four units
of vodka by the time Michael Camerano left the pub,
so she would not have forgotten about the child's accident.
In fact, Karen Reid was the last person seen talking
to Michael Camerono at around ten six fifty four PM
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as he was making his way to the door to
leave the pub, which he did at around ten oh
seven three, So there he is leaving. So if Karen
Reid did think John O'Keeffe was missing at four thirty am,
she didn't why did she contact Michael Camerano multiple times
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before anyone else? And not only did Karen Reid last
see Brian Higgins in the Waterfall Bar and receive an
eleven thirty two text from him, she would have seen
his light gray jeep parked up near the mailbox outside
thirty four Fairview as she slowly creeped along in her
car to near the flagpole at around twelve twenty four
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to twenty nine, And Karen Reid would have also been
aware of Brian Higgins like gray jeep parked up behind
her while she was arguing with John o'keef for over
seven minutes while they were inside her car still near
the flagpole. Karen Reid would have seen Brian Higgins like
gray jeep at around twelve thirty two sixteen after carrying
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out her second three point turn to drive back to
Cedarcrest Road. Did and if Karen Reid really did think
John O'Keeffe was missing at four thirty am, why did
she call an acquaintance as she referred to Jen McKay
on page eleven of her April twelfth to thirty, twenty
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twenty three Motion for Order pursuant to mass our criminal
directed to Brian Albert Verizon in aight and T instead
of Brian Higgins. So looking at her phone data, Karen
Reid received a text from John O'Keeffe reading Blizzard tomorrow
Nobody's going anywhere at eight thirty three fifty six, and
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at eight thirty five thirty four, Karen received a text
from John O'Keeffe reading shore. At eleven thirty two, Karen
received a text from Brian Higgins, reading um, well, so
that's at eleven thirty two PM that's Karen received that
text from Brian Higgins and at four forty six forty
one AM, Karen calls Michael Camerono four forty seven nineteen.
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She's calling mi co Camerano again. Four forty seven fifty
seven Karen read again Michael Camerano four forty nine, calling
Michael Camerano again four forty nine twenty four, She's calling
Katherine Camerano four fifty four fifty one fifty one am.
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Karen Reid's called the Katherine Camerano ended, and at four
fifty six thirty nine, Katherine Camerano called Karen Reid back,
and at four fifty nine thirty six, Katherine Camerano's call
to Karen Reid ended more importantly, Why did Karen Reid
call John o'keef's friend Brian Higgins, whose phone number and
photos she had stored in her phone and who's eleven
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thirty two pm text would have been the last received
text showing up in her inbox. Karen Reid had been
flirting with, kissing and telling Brian Higgins intimate details about
herself since January twelve, twenty twenty two. During the Dallance Dalliance.
Karen Reid chose to tell Brian Hicks she allegedly had
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colon cancer and ten surgeries in eighteen months, that she
was selling her house, and that she was allegedly thinking
of moving to Tiverton. I've been very sick, she writes them.
I've had colon cancer and ten surgeries in eighteen months.
I'm a wreck. I had no idea, Are you okay? Now?
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Nobody else had any idea either, because it was a
lie another liese that she was selling her house. Karen
Reid had also been over to Brian Higgins's house on
January nineteenth, just ten days earlier. Because I just assumed
you were happy with your situation. I was, but things
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have deteriorated. So why did Karen Reid contact Brian Higgins?
If Karen Reid had checked her iPhone at four point
thirty to see if John o'keef had texted or called her,
the last text sitting in her inbox would have been
from Brian Higgins, who she had last seen more recently
in the Waterfall Bar, not McCarthy's pub from where Michael
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Camerono had to leave earlier to pick up his son.
So Karen Reid continues to hide all of her iPhone
data from her dupes and her enablers and who would
have known knowingly been involved in promoting her this innocent
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fraud phenomenon scam like Aiden Turtleboy Carney because and they
don't care about it because it aids their own fraud.
Aiden Karney published a blog on May tenth, twenty twenty two,
twenty three, as part of his fraudulent Canton cover up
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fire Hose of fire Hose of Falsehood blog series with
the header what's been hidden on Karen Reid's cell phone?
And he's avoided the topic ever since? Did Karen read
delete her messages between herself and Brian Higgins? From her
iPhone before police sees her iPhone. And it would be
a really good idea if anyone who received messages from
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Karen Reid to put them out in the public domain,
whether it's Aaron O'Keeffe or Jen McCabe or Carrie Roberts,
put out those text messages because Karen Reid is hiding
them all. And when accused killers had their cell phone data,
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it's or hot or basically ghost anything. It's usually something important.
Why did killer choose to target an acquaintance? And why
did Karen Reid target Jen McCabe as opposed to Brian
Higgins If she generally thought John O'Keefe was missing at
four thirty am. Jennifer McCabe was a stay at home mom,
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mother of four, whereas Brian Haiggins was an ATF agent.
So what was Karen Reid's logic and reason to target
the former? If John O'Keeffe was allegedly missing, and Karen
Reid had said they got into a fight and she
left him at the waterfall, why not contact someone like
Brian Higgins for help allegedly locating missing quote unquote missing
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John instead of Michael Camerano, who had only been in
McCarthy's pub for an hour, all really good points. I mean,
she seemed to me obvious that she's targeting people that
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she could put later point the finger at get to
call nine one one. I mean to me, it's highly
significant that Jen McCabe called nine one one and Karen
Reid didn't, And Karen Reid got Jen McCabe to search
how long to dine the cold Well, Karen didn't so
she could point the finger at them later. I think
she's been doing this her whole life, mixing in characters
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and pointing in the finger at them instead of herself.
Because if she had gone and found where she left
John O'Keeffe after reversing into him with her foot seventy
five percent down on the gas pedal at twenty four
miles per an hour, she went back that morning to
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where she left him to find him and then called
nine to one one alone, it would just be Karen Reid.
Who else would there be to be lane, No one
else but Karen Reid. So that is what I have
for today. So this will just go on and on
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until the I hope the civil lawyers will get smarter
on this, and you know they're not just fighting. I
think the mistake is the idea that they can just
win in court because they have because the facts, the facts,
will just win their case. When they're dealing with an
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innocence fraud campaign, it's a little bit different. It will
the jury has already been so compromised and so tainted
that they really do have to think about getting If
I were Karen Reid civil lawyers, I would get out
all the information I could out into the public domain,
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the details that have been hidden in this case. It's
the most important thing, and start working on a really
true narrative of this case instead of the fake, phony
narrative we heard at trial with the Karen read is
so jealous nonsense. That would be my advice. So please
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