September 18, 2025 • 35 mins
Alison Galvani has been searching for justice for the murder of her mother Nancy Galvani for decades. Alison details all the evidence against her mother’s killer and exposes how this cold case is finally heating up!
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
You are listening to the ROBERTA. Glass True Crime Report,
putting the true back in true crime from New York City.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
ROBERTA. Glass is now on the record.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, here we go a special emergency broadcast, breaking news broadcast.
I'm here with Alison Galvanni, who has been a tireless
warrior for justice for her mother, Nancy Galvani, and welcome Allison.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you so much for Berta. You've also been a
bowyer for justice for many victims, including my mom.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So so today is an exciting day for you. You're
going to talk to the DA later today, and I
think you just wanted to go over some main points people,
maybe some people who don't know what your mom's has
been a cold case for decades. What are the what
(01:32):
is the evidence in your your mom's murder? So when
did your when was your mom murdered? And what were
the circumstances she was.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Murdered in nineteen eighty two, So Professor Joe Pating as
I have a tendency to go fu pangency said, And
also because mister Wagstaff is looking for a coherent, negative narrative,
she suggested I write down and explain to him you
know my tendency to grow tangents, and you know, out
(02:03):
of respect for this time, narrative, concise narrative, and chronological
order as far as possible to make it easier to explain.
So I have written something down. I thought your audience
might also be interested because I have had responses on
other shows where people have commented that I'm all over
(02:26):
the place and it's hard to follow the narrative of
my mother's case. So if that's okay, I was hoping
to read a draft here of what I'm going to
read to mister Wag's staff, and then after it'll be
in like a more natural conversation with him.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, sounds good, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
To start the narrative, I wanted to explain why my
mother didn't have much support back in nineteen eighty two.
My mom had no siblings and her father died when
she was young. At fifteen, she moved to California to
work as an in home babysitter for Alison Stanley's family,
who Allison Stanley will be there while finishing high school
(03:10):
and then attended Berkeley. After graduating, she moved to New
York City to work as a social worker. At the
Child Welfare Division of the New York City Department of
Social Services. It was in New York City that my
mother met my father. After dating briefly, they married in
nineteen seventy three. They moved to San Francisco, where my
(03:33):
mother worked for the San Francisco Psychiatric Hospital until I
was born in nineteen seventy six. My father worked at
Arthur Anderson until being fired for social reasons. His employment
and financial setback seem to fuel his violent temper, unleashing
(03:53):
what I can only describe as the loudest, most incomprehensible,
animalistic expression of rage imaginable. During one of his rages,
even as a five year old, I remember thinking this
is worse than normal. Terrified, I ran into their bedroom
to beg him to stop. He was stradd smothering her
(04:16):
with a pillow. My pleading led him to stop on
that occasion, but that childhood memory is chillingly relevant. Her
cause of death just months later would be asphyxiation. My
father was quoted in the paper at the time of
his initial arrest stating his justification. Oh, let yeah, stating
(04:45):
in justification of that previous assault that he had smothered
her to deaden the noise for the neighbors until she
conked out. He gave me similar justifications to that incident
over the years. It wasn't until I became a mother
myself that I fully appreciated how horrifying that incident was.
(05:07):
And her diary, my mother noted that this incident finalized
her decision to flee with me to a shelter and
to file for divorce. She further wrote in her diary
and told her friends the Path threatened to leave her
penniless and to kill her before she could gain custody
of me and his divorce response, he argued that my
(05:29):
mother was entitled to no alimony, no child support, no
share of their valuable real estate, and not even her car.
Despite the pride he felt in his Mercedes, he wanted
her old yellow Buick too. I think I'll be able
to show a photo. Hopefully that's on zoom. This meeting
(05:52):
is on zoom, which I'd like to show. Oh there
it is. Oh, thank you. So this photo was taken
just weeks before she was murdered. This is the summer
of nineteen eighty two. That's my mother in the middle
with her mother and me and I this side of her.
(06:16):
The first weekend I visited my father, he told me
he had transferred me to a new school, but also
said to keep that a secret from my mom. The
second time I visited him was the weekend she went missing.
As soon as he had me, he called his uncle
to arrange for me to sleep over at his uncle's
on Sunday. Even at the time, it struck me as odd.
(06:40):
I had hardly seen my father all summer. I had
never before in my life been sent to Uncle Pat's house.
He was an elderly man, and I had only once
met him prior. My father just lost my spot. My
father then called my mother that weekend, telling her she
(07:04):
had to pick me up on Sunday at eight instead
of Monday morning, as had been planned. In her diary,
she noted that she had already committed to co hosting
a taco party with friends at that time, and at
(07:25):
this last minute change was an irritation. She wrote that
my father insisted, claiming had to fly out of town
on business late Sunday. Let me just make a little
edit here. On the evening of my mom's murder, she
(07:45):
attended the taco party she had helped organize just before eight,
she told her friends that she needed to leave briefly
to pick me up for my father's home, and stated
she would be right back. It was only a seven
minute when she didn't return. Her friends were concerned, knowing
that my father had been violent and had threaten to
(08:07):
kill her. Shortly after eight, a neighbor saw my mom's
distinctive yellow buick in my father's driveway. That night, she
was strangled, her clothing removed, her body, put in a
sleeping bag, and bound with rope including a kno handhold.
My mother kept that very sleeping bag on the trunk
(08:30):
of her car for picnics. This means that the killer
had to have taken it out of her car, so
it is clear that my mom did not simply park
in my father's house, wander off and get killed by
someone else, as she suggested. Her body. Her bound body
(08:50):
was weighed down with a cinder block and thrown off
the San Mateo Bridge. I believe my father thought the
cinder block would be sufficient to keep her body from
ever being found. However, on Monday, less than twenty four
hours after she disappeared, fisherman discovered her remains from the
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moment she didn't pick me up. The moment she didn't
pick me up, I didn't believe she would abandon me.
But when I asked, so, this is why it's also helpful,
because it's a few hours I'll be being some da
and I see there's still some typos in it. Uh.
(09:44):
From the moment she didn't pick me up, I didn't
believe she would abandon me. But when I asked him
why she hadn't, it seemed like my father expected my
mother never to return. He told me that she had
run off because the divorce was stressed school. Even before
my mom had been reported missing, he had his mother
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fly out from Minnesota to take care of me. On Tuesday,
local newspapers published sketches of the unidentified woman recovered from
the bay. My mother's friends called my father to alert
him to the sketches and urged him to report her missing.
He did not. They called again the following day, telling
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him he had to report her missing on Thursday, not
until five days after she disappeared, to say he still
did not because that was the only Wednesday he and
then it wasn't too untilled, so he still didn't offer
(10:53):
into the Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Five days after five days after your mom missing.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, it wasn't until on Thursday, Not until five days
after she had disappeared, did my father walk into a
station and report her missing, reading from a legal pad.
He did not mention the sketch and did not mention
the body in the bay. Her friends were the ones
to contact Foster City Police Department and report they thought
(11:24):
they knew the identity of the Jane Doe Okay. On Saturday,
six days after she had vanished, detectives came to my
father's house. He refused to speak with them. They executed
a search. One inside, they found the clothes she had
(11:45):
last been wearing, her glasses, and her car. He drove
her Buick for years after as if it were a trophy,
but continued to disparage her as a whore, low life,
bad mother, and bad wife. This nineteen eighty two evidence
(12:05):
of premeditation premeditated murders overwhelming. The detectives at the time
believe so, and they remain haunted that the case has
yet to be brought before a jury. In addition, there
is evidence beyond nineteen eighty two. For example, the authorities
in nineteen eighty two did not realize I was not
my father's alibi. Confusingly, my father Pat had sent me
(12:30):
to stay with a man who had the same first name.
When asked by detectives where I was that weekend, I
told him. I told them I was with Pat. His
legal team pushed the narrative that I was his alibi,
suggesting that such a violent murder could not have occurred
(12:52):
without me hearing it. The truth is that my father
used me as bait to lure my mind to her death,
then he used me as his false alibi. The Foster
City Police recorded a phone call where he admits that
he had sent me to uncle Pat the night she
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was murdered, and that same call he made several other
incriminating statements, saying that my mother's death was the best
thing that could have happened to me, that otherwise I
would have been a druggie, and that if he had
done it, he would have done it for me, and
(13:34):
that he was planning to kill her the next day
but someone beat him to it. This and more is
recorded by the Foster City Police Department and can be
even be played in court. I think in the nineteen
eighties people weren't as concerned about domestic violence. It was normalized,
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and dehumanization of victims was also a more effective defense
stract back then. This is I'm talking to mister Wagstaff,
and this your pursuit of this case shows that your
office will not tolerate a domestic violence murder, no matter
when it occurred. Even this meeting represents the first time
but a DA has taken seriously my mom's murder. My
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family and I are grateful that your office has devoted
resources to reviewing cold case styles and for your commitment
to pursuing justice. It would give us a measurable solace
if an attempt was made to put the evidence before
a jury.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Excellent, excellent. You know, I'm so struck by the fact
that you know, at five years old, you were aware
that you know, you thought this is worse than normal,
which gives you an idea of what normal was. And
then that household and so what uh? You had a
(15:00):
short live on your channel that I was lucky enough
to catch earlier today, and you said that you've gotten
some communication from the DA concerning the emails that people
are sending.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I want everyone to know
this was written emails, so I yeah, he hasn't replied
to most people. He hasn't replied to most of mine,
for that matter, but he's been very kind about setting
up this meeting, so there have been replies about that.
And also I because I do find like my daughter's
(15:39):
email and she will be attending. My daughter will be attending.
Just the one that's eighteen is at Yale, not our
younger two children. My husband should be calling in, he's traveling,
should be calling in Alison Stanley, who I was named after,
and then Liz, who is a cousin on my father
(16:00):
side who also wants justice for my mother and is
disgusted with the family turning a blind eye to murder.
There'll be attending. But anyway, I sent him, mister wax
eff at this this morning and I said, I said,
my family and I are truly grateful for the opportunity
(16:20):
to meet with you tomorrow, and we thank you well.
I guess this was late last night. Actually, we thank
you for giving your time to us despite the many
demands on your schedule. I know you've received many emails
and that your time is limited. If you do have
a chance to review any before we meet, I would
(16:41):
be especially thankful if you could read Sarah's message. She
conveys better than I could the meaningful and transgenerational impact
it would have if my mother's case were finally brought
before a journey with gratitude. And he wrote back, And
this is he's speaking to everyone's emails here, he said,
thank you, Allison. I read all of the emails sent
(17:03):
to me. Sarah's message, like so many others, is heartfelt
and conveys a sincere message that goes on the scale
of my decision making. See, this is why emails are
so important. Thank you so much. Keep them coming and
it he continues, I appreciate everyone's interest in this case.
I look forward to meeting with you this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And Steve excellent. So if you haven't send out your email,
it's a very easy to do. It should only take
you a few minutes to s wagstaff at SMC gov
dot org. Get them out. If you haven't done it,
(17:47):
just do it now. Now is the best time. While
you're thinking of it, send it out. Let da wagstaff
know that bringing this case in front of it you're
is important. And this has gone a case that's gone
cold for way too long, way too long, And.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Why, better now than better. Now now is the time
to do this. The evidence is there. You were, so
you were wired up to make that call? What was
that like to call your father and and and get evidence?
What were you told to say? And what was that?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Like? I the wires weren't placed on my body. I
went out to sam Maiteo and it was because it
was a phone call, you know, the wires were all
connected or however to the phone. Two detectives were in
the room at the time, and yeah, they gave me
(18:58):
some suggestions about how to get people to disclose the truth.
They also were what.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Were they What were the suggestions.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like to seem understanding to him, like not to be
too aggressive. I think I was. In my I think
I ended up maybe coming across as not understanding, but
(19:39):
you know, like that of him, because that's not the
way I feel genuinely. So they also, like during the
phone call, they were saying bits of advice, but I
couldn't like listen to them and listen to the phone
call really at the same time, So that that part
was hard. So I basically didn't really hear you know
(20:04):
how it's hard someone's you're on the phone and someone's saying, oh,
say this and say that.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's like a newscaster getting getting some kind of second
feed in your ear a little hard. So could you
hear what he was saying? I was saying, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That was just like a regular
phone call in a way.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So these were the normal things that he was saying.
Someone beat me to I was going to murder the
next day, but someone beat me to it. What a
coincidence that the day before he was going to do
it himself.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That specific thing he hadn't said to me before. But
in terms of he used the words like I don't
have a coffee of this all from memory, but when
I've talked to the police about it, they've not disputed.
Everything that I remember from that phone call is very accurate,
Like it's the best thing that could have ever happened
to me. He said things like that that I would
be a drug. He'd said that like over the years,
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that she was a whore. That was common. So some
of the things were just what I was used to
in expecting he would say. And the conversation was longer
than probably we'd ever talk specifically about my mother's murder.
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And so, yeah, for instance, someone beat him to it.
He had never said that specific thing before that he
was planning it. The next day he said, was planning it,
And I said, what are you planning it for? And
he said the next day. But someone beat him to it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Wow. Wow, how lucky, How lucky for him, right to
get into his mindset scary, scary and he thinks that
that that would be uh exallnerating. So you have this
meeting in what three less than three hours? Two hours
(22:13):
forty five minutes, and you're gonna have some support there?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Uh yes, Well on the family side, Sarah, I mean,
none of us are going to be in the same room.
Starts calling in from her college dorm and then Alison
Stanley's in California. She's the woman that I was named after.
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I think that, like her story itself shows like what
a maternal person my mother was. So she although when
I described this, when I was asking if Allison could join,
they seem to get confused again with like this two
pats of the name, the two Allison's, even though I explained,
like my mother left home to work as an in
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home babysitter taking care of this little girl, Allison, and
she's now out doctor Alison Stanley, and she had such
a close bond with this little girl that she named
me after Allison, so and you know, both spelt with
one L. Like, I don't know, I find that touching.
(23:30):
They did seem kind of confused, bis and they started
calling me doctor Stanley.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Rtth doctors too great.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah. And then there's gonna be a cousin on
my father's side, Liz, who wants justice from you know,
my mother, you know, was in her thirties. She was
a pen pal with like a little girl my father's
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side of the family. When when Liz was like twelve,
and Liz said she just thought my mother was such
a cool person and kind and even then, you know,
like it's it sounds really sweet to me. I'm I'm
touched that my mother was a ten was a pen
pal with a twelve year old. Now as an adult,
she was pen pals with a twelve year old. But
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it just seems so sweet, you know. So I don't
know if those things will come through those specific things,
but anyway, the four people, well fiveband ft of us
there what we all want justice for my mother. I
think the detectives aren't invited to this meeting. Morse Maya
(24:42):
will definitely be there. I have heard even since talking
about it recent you know shows like the last few days,
Morris Maya, he really is really really wants to pursue
(25:03):
this case. Lucas King, I assume will be in the meeting.
Who is actually the man who's himself a homicide prosecutor
because Morris Maya is in the leadership structure, he's just
not the DA and he's worked there for twenty seven years.
I think it said Mars Maya, And I thought if
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someone like Marris Maya wanted to pursue charges, that would
be sufficient because he's so well respected, he's so experienced
that wagstaff still hasn't given his approval. Apparently the last
staff meeting, I was told yesterday that the last staff meeting.
I'm not gonna say who who said this to me
(25:48):
because I don't I don't want to like get anyone
in trouble with like their internal politics. So they told me, oh,
apparently the last meeting got heated. And I said, oh, really,
this person I was speaking to wasn't at this staff
being but heard it. And I said, oh, I thought
the meeting before where you were at that that got heated,
(26:12):
and then she said, just not to reveal it. Then
the oh, well, in that meeting there was a lot
of frustration, and that the person I was speaking to
expressed frustration. But in the meeting, the subsequent meeting, it
also got heated. So so there are people in that
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office who strongly believed this case should be pursued. It's
really just coming down to this one person, mister Wagstaff
giving the approval. And he says, the emails are weighing
in this decision. So please, even if you've already sent
an email, send him another.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Just send another. Give him a little push the maybe
the push that he needs, obviously having it at an effect.
Anything else before we close close, close it down. Do
people have questions?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Anything you want to add Alison?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh I've lost what time? Oh? Those are top? Oh?
Oh I put this is the email put up just
to show, he says, here, I want to highlight it.
So everyone, just I want to you know this is
this is large part gratitude to you, and show how
much difference it's made, he says, like so many others,
(27:44):
and it goes, it goes on the scale of his
decision making. So I think that's the clearest message that
from the day himself saying it really does matter. The
more he's bembarded with these emails, the more the scale
(28:04):
is gonna hip in the direction of justice. And I
don't think I have anything up here.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's not I'd be curious to ask him. I mean,
the thing I would want to ask him is why
wouldn't he want to proceed? What are the things that
are on the other side of the scale. And of course,
because I'm a natural my boyfriend calls it the saleswoman.
Maybe the blood way of saying is pushy, maybe naturally
(28:36):
kind of pushy when I think something is right. But
I'd want to know. I tried to convince him as
to why those things were lesser or lesser of a
concern than any things they are. Do you have any
idea what's on the other side of the scale? And
we know if the emails obviously doing what's right, getting
(28:59):
justice for your fan, family and all the friends. I mean,
you know, one of the themes on my channel is
how much these murders reverberate the You know, the effect
is so vast in ways that you don't even you
might not be obvious.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna make a note of that, reverberating.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What what do you have any idea? What's on the
other side? Is it just is he is he scared
to prosecute a cold case. Is he's scared he doesn't
have enough evidence? What do you know what at this point?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And yeah, I'll just phrase it like if you're going
to email him. The one thing that at this point,
not that it was originally at this point is counterproductive
is to ask him to do new forensic techniques or
DNA analysis, because he's done all of that. So I
guess it's just there is enough evidence, So it's not
(30:01):
so much we want more investment from him to try
to get a new piece of evidence. But I think
he's afraid of like we've seen in Charlie's case, they
asked Georgia Kapelman, well why now you have this evidence
all along? So he's afraid of those kinds of questions.
I think. So yeah, if people write with write to
(30:24):
him just asking him from justice, and then it's you
know what, there's even apparently I don't know who it is,
but one of the witnesses has cancer. I don't know
how bad. We they have cancer, but you know this
case doesn't doesn't you know, no case really age as well?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Right? You wait? I mean if we if we said that,
we said that the case was too old, I mean,
then why why then you might as well have a
statue on murder, right you might? After this long, we
can't try to escape. It's not Embarrassment is not a
(31:03):
good reason not to go forward to save embarrassment. Why now?
Because we're doing it now? That's why. Now, now we
have the will we have everything together? Why now? Because
we can? You know, because we can?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I mean it is the same, like better now than never.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Right, I mean, what is he going to wait for
ten years? I mean, I mean, yeah, you know, I
think it's really important that we still have seen people
on juries. Like I've been talking about our juries. Our
stories are getting so infected with this idea that they
they really want to see a confession or a you know,
(31:44):
we're multiple confessions and a videotape of the person doing it.
It's bizarre. It's bizarre. So good luck. I don't think
you need my luck. I think you have everything you need, Alice.
But everybody I know, all the we're all behind you.
(32:06):
And if this goes well, if this goes forward, we
will have a big something great on this channel. I'm
not sure what, some kind of big party on this channel.
If we can get this done, this will we'll we'll
do something fun. We'll have a big celebration when when this,
if this decides to go forward and to prosecution, I
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have a good feeling about it. I have since the beginning.
A celebration, yeah, I don't know. Definitely an online celebration
somehow we will celebrate and thank you so much for
coming on and doing this.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Thank you for your support, ROBERTA.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thank you, thank you for your courage. You know, everybody,
get your emails out. Now is the time. Just do
it now while you're thinking of it. Pull out your
email app, whatever however you get on email. Send Stephen
Wagstaff the daa email. Just let him know that the
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prosecution of Nancy Galvani's murderer is important to you. Now
is the time for justice for family and everyone who
knew and loved Nancy, and for justice in general. Were
I mean, are we going to become a society that
doesn't prosecute murderers because of embarrassment? I hope not so.
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I think that's my little spiel. Thanks so much, Alison,
thanks so much for coming by. All right, let us
know how it goes.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
All right, all right, bye, my check.
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
ROBERTA. Glass is now on the record.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, here we go a special emergency broadcast, breaking news broadcast.
I'm here with Alison Galvanni, who has been a tireless
warrior for justice for her mother, Nancy Galvani, and welcome Allison.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you so much for Berta. You've also been a
bowyer for justice for many victims, including my mom.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So so today is an exciting day for you. You're
going to talk to the DA later today, and I
think you just wanted to go over some main points people,
maybe some people who don't know what your mom's has
been a cold case for decades. What are the what
(01:32):
is the evidence in your your mom's murder? So when
did your when was your mom murdered? And what were
the circumstances she was.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Murdered in nineteen eighty two, So Professor Joe Pating as
I have a tendency to go fu pangency said, And
also because mister Wagstaff is looking for a coherent, negative narrative,
she suggested I write down and explain to him you
know my tendency to grow tangents, and you know, out
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of respect for this time, narrative, concise narrative, and chronological
order as far as possible to make it easier to explain.
So I have written something down. I thought your audience
might also be interested because I have had responses on
other shows where people have commented that I'm all over
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the place and it's hard to follow the narrative of
my mother's case. So if that's okay, I was hoping
to read a draft here of what I'm going to
read to mister Wag's staff, and then after it'll be
in like a more natural conversation with him.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, sounds good, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
To start the narrative, I wanted to explain why my
mother didn't have much support back in nineteen eighty two.
My mom had no siblings and her father died when
she was young. At fifteen, she moved to California to
work as an in home babysitter for Alison Stanley's family,
who Allison Stanley will be there while finishing high school
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and then attended Berkeley. After graduating, she moved to New
York City to work as a social worker. At the
Child Welfare Division of the New York City Department of
Social Services. It was in New York City that my
mother met my father. After dating briefly, they married in
nineteen seventy three. They moved to San Francisco, where my
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mother worked for the San Francisco Psychiatric Hospital until I
was born in nineteen seventy six. My father worked at
Arthur Anderson until being fired for social reasons. His employment
and financial setback seem to fuel his violent temper, unleashing
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what I can only describe as the loudest, most incomprehensible,
animalistic expression of rage imaginable. During one of his rages,
even as a five year old, I remember thinking this
is worse than normal. Terrified, I ran into their bedroom
to beg him to stop. He was stradd smothering her
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with a pillow. My pleading led him to stop on
that occasion, but that childhood memory is chillingly relevant. Her
cause of death just months later would be asphyxiation. My
father was quoted in the paper at the time of
his initial arrest stating his justification. Oh, let yeah, stating
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in justification of that previous assault that he had smothered
her to deaden the noise for the neighbors until she
conked out. He gave me similar justifications to that incident
over the years. It wasn't until I became a mother
myself that I fully appreciated how horrifying that incident was.
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And her diary, my mother noted that this incident finalized
her decision to flee with me to a shelter and
to file for divorce. She further wrote in her diary
and told her friends the Path threatened to leave her
penniless and to kill her before she could gain custody
of me and his divorce response, he argued that my
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mother was entitled to no alimony, no child support, no
share of their valuable real estate, and not even her car.
Despite the pride he felt in his Mercedes, he wanted
her old yellow Buick too. I think I'll be able
to show a photo. Hopefully that's on zoom. This meeting
(05:52):
is on zoom, which I'd like to show. Oh there
it is. Oh, thank you. So this photo was taken
just weeks before she was murdered. This is the summer
of nineteen eighty two. That's my mother in the middle
with her mother and me and I this side of her.
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The first weekend I visited my father, he told me
he had transferred me to a new school, but also
said to keep that a secret from my mom. The
second time I visited him was the weekend she went missing.
As soon as he had me, he called his uncle
to arrange for me to sleep over at his uncle's
on Sunday. Even at the time, it struck me as odd.
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I had hardly seen my father all summer. I had
never before in my life been sent to Uncle Pat's house.
He was an elderly man, and I had only once
met him prior. My father just lost my spot. My
father then called my mother that weekend, telling her she
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had to pick me up on Sunday at eight instead
of Monday morning, as had been planned. In her diary,
she noted that she had already committed to co hosting
a taco party with friends at that time, and at
(07:25):
this last minute change was an irritation. She wrote that
my father insisted, claiming had to fly out of town
on business late Sunday. Let me just make a little
edit here. On the evening of my mom's murder, she
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attended the taco party she had helped organize just before eight,
she told her friends that she needed to leave briefly
to pick me up for my father's home, and stated
she would be right back. It was only a seven
minute when she didn't return. Her friends were concerned, knowing
that my father had been violent and had threaten to
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kill her. Shortly after eight, a neighbor saw my mom's
distinctive yellow buick in my father's driveway. That night, she
was strangled, her clothing removed, her body, put in a
sleeping bag, and bound with rope including a kno handhold.
My mother kept that very sleeping bag on the trunk
(08:30):
of her car for picnics. This means that the killer
had to have taken it out of her car, so
it is clear that my mom did not simply park
in my father's house, wander off and get killed by
someone else, as she suggested. Her body. Her bound body
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was weighed down with a cinder block and thrown off
the San Mateo Bridge. I believe my father thought the
cinder block would be sufficient to keep her body from
ever being found. However, on Monday, less than twenty four
hours after she disappeared, fisherman discovered her remains from the
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moment she didn't pick me up. The moment she didn't
pick me up, I didn't believe she would abandon me.
But when I asked, so, this is why it's also helpful,
because it's a few hours I'll be being some da
and I see there's still some typos in it. Uh.
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From the moment she didn't pick me up, I didn't
believe she would abandon me. But when I asked him
why she hadn't, it seemed like my father expected my
mother never to return. He told me that she had
run off because the divorce was stressed school. Even before
my mom had been reported missing, he had his mother
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fly out from Minnesota to take care of me. On Tuesday,
local newspapers published sketches of the unidentified woman recovered from
the bay. My mother's friends called my father to alert
him to the sketches and urged him to report her missing.
He did not. They called again the following day, telling
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him he had to report her missing on Thursday, not
until five days after she disappeared, to say he still
did not because that was the only Wednesday he and
then it wasn't too untilled, so he still didn't offer
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into the Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Five days after five days after your mom missing.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, it wasn't until on Thursday, Not until five days
after she had disappeared, did my father walk into a
station and report her missing, reading from a legal pad.
He did not mention the sketch and did not mention
the body in the bay. Her friends were the ones
to contact Foster City Police Department and report they thought
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they knew the identity of the Jane Doe Okay. On Saturday,
six days after she had vanished, detectives came to my
father's house. He refused to speak with them. They executed
a search. One inside, they found the clothes she had
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last been wearing, her glasses, and her car. He drove
her Buick for years after as if it were a trophy,
but continued to disparage her as a whore, low life,
bad mother, and bad wife. This nineteen eighty two evidence
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of premeditation premeditated murders overwhelming. The detectives at the time
believe so, and they remain haunted that the case has
yet to be brought before a jury. In addition, there
is evidence beyond nineteen eighty two. For example, the authorities
in nineteen eighty two did not realize I was not
my father's alibi. Confusingly, my father Pat had sent me
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to stay with a man who had the same first name.
When asked by detectives where I was that weekend, I
told him. I told them I was with Pat. His
legal team pushed the narrative that I was his alibi,
suggesting that such a violent murder could not have occurred
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without me hearing it. The truth is that my father
used me as bait to lure my mind to her death,
then he used me as his false alibi. The Foster
City Police recorded a phone call where he admits that
he had sent me to uncle Pat the night she
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was murdered, and that same call he made several other
incriminating statements, saying that my mother's death was the best
thing that could have happened to me, that otherwise I
would have been a druggie, and that if he had
done it, he would have done it for me, and
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that he was planning to kill her the next day
but someone beat him to it. This and more is
recorded by the Foster City Police Department and can be
even be played in court. I think in the nineteen
eighties people weren't as concerned about domestic violence. It was normalized,
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and dehumanization of victims was also a more effective defense
stract back then. This is I'm talking to mister Wagstaff,
and this your pursuit of this case shows that your
office will not tolerate a domestic violence murder, no matter
when it occurred. Even this meeting represents the first time
but a DA has taken seriously my mom's murder. My
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family and I are grateful that your office has devoted
resources to reviewing cold case styles and for your commitment
to pursuing justice. It would give us a measurable solace
if an attempt was made to put the evidence before
a jury.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Excellent, excellent. You know, I'm so struck by the fact
that you know, at five years old, you were aware
that you know, you thought this is worse than normal,
which gives you an idea of what normal was. And
then that household and so what uh? You had a
(15:00):
short live on your channel that I was lucky enough
to catch earlier today, and you said that you've gotten
some communication from the DA concerning the emails that people
are sending.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I want everyone to know
this was written emails, so I yeah, he hasn't replied
to most people. He hasn't replied to most of mine,
for that matter, but he's been very kind about setting
up this meeting, so there have been replies about that.
And also I because I do find like my daughter's
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email and she will be attending. My daughter will be attending.
Just the one that's eighteen is at Yale, not our
younger two children. My husband should be calling in, he's traveling,
should be calling in Alison Stanley, who I was named after,
and then Liz, who is a cousin on my father
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side who also wants justice for my mother and is
disgusted with the family turning a blind eye to murder.
There'll be attending. But anyway, I sent him, mister wax
eff at this this morning and I said, I said,
my family and I are truly grateful for the opportunity
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to meet with you tomorrow, and we thank you well.
I guess this was late last night. Actually, we thank
you for giving your time to us despite the many
demands on your schedule. I know you've received many emails
and that your time is limited. If you do have
a chance to review any before we meet, I would
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be especially thankful if you could read Sarah's message. She
conveys better than I could the meaningful and transgenerational impact
it would have if my mother's case were finally brought
before a journey with gratitude. And he wrote back, And
this is he's speaking to everyone's emails here, he said,
thank you, Allison. I read all of the emails sent
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to me. Sarah's message, like so many others, is heartfelt
and conveys a sincere message that goes on the scale
of my decision making. See, this is why emails are
so important. Thank you so much. Keep them coming and
it he continues, I appreciate everyone's interest in this case.
I look forward to meeting with you this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And Steve excellent. So if you haven't send out your email,
it's a very easy to do. It should only take
you a few minutes to s wagstaff at SMC gov
dot org. Get them out. If you haven't done it,
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just do it now. Now is the best time. While
you're thinking of it, send it out. Let da wagstaff
know that bringing this case in front of it you're
is important. And this has gone a case that's gone
cold for way too long, way too long, And.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Why, better now than better. Now now is the time
to do this. The evidence is there. You were, so
you were wired up to make that call? What was
that like to call your father and and and get evidence?
What were you told to say? And what was that?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Like? I the wires weren't placed on my body. I
went out to sam Maiteo and it was because it
was a phone call, you know, the wires were all
connected or however to the phone. Two detectives were in
the room at the time, and yeah, they gave me
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some suggestions about how to get people to disclose the truth.
They also were what.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Were they What were the suggestions.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like to seem understanding to him, like not to be
too aggressive. I think I was. In my I think
I ended up maybe coming across as not understanding, but
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you know, like that of him, because that's not the
way I feel genuinely. So they also, like during the
phone call, they were saying bits of advice, but I
couldn't like listen to them and listen to the phone
call really at the same time, So that that part
was hard. So I basically didn't really hear you know
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how it's hard someone's you're on the phone and someone's saying, oh,
say this and say that.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's like a newscaster getting getting some kind of second
feed in your ear a little hard. So could you
hear what he was saying? I was saying, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That was just like a regular
phone call in a way.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So these were the normal things that he was saying.
Someone beat me to I was going to murder the
next day, but someone beat me to it. What a
coincidence that the day before he was going to do
it himself.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That specific thing he hadn't said to me before. But
in terms of he used the words like I don't
have a coffee of this all from memory, but when
I've talked to the police about it, they've not disputed.
Everything that I remember from that phone call is very accurate,
Like it's the best thing that could have ever happened
to me. He said things like that that I would
be a drug. He'd said that like over the years,
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that she was a whore. That was common. So some
of the things were just what I was used to
in expecting he would say. And the conversation was longer
than probably we'd ever talk specifically about my mother's murder.
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And so, yeah, for instance, someone beat him to it.
He had never said that specific thing before that he
was planning it. The next day he said, was planning it,
And I said, what are you planning it for? And
he said the next day. But someone beat him to it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Wow. Wow, how lucky, How lucky for him, right to
get into his mindset scary, scary and he thinks that
that that would be uh exallnerating. So you have this
meeting in what three less than three hours? Two hours
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forty five minutes, and you're gonna have some support there?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Uh yes, Well on the family side, Sarah, I mean,
none of us are going to be in the same room.
Starts calling in from her college dorm and then Alison
Stanley's in California. She's the woman that I was named after.
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I think that, like her story itself shows like what
a maternal person my mother was. So she although when
I described this, when I was asking if Allison could join,
they seem to get confused again with like this two
pats of the name, the two Allison's, even though I explained,
like my mother left home to work as an in
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home babysitter taking care of this little girl, Allison, and
she's now out doctor Alison Stanley, and she had such
a close bond with this little girl that she named
me after Allison, so and you know, both spelt with
one L. Like, I don't know, I find that touching.
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They did seem kind of confused, bis and they started
calling me doctor Stanley.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Rtth doctors too great.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah. And then there's gonna be a cousin on
my father's side, Liz, who wants justice from you know,
my mother, you know, was in her thirties. She was
a pen pal with like a little girl my father's
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side of the family. When when Liz was like twelve,
and Liz said she just thought my mother was such
a cool person and kind and even then, you know,
like it's it sounds really sweet to me. I'm I'm
touched that my mother was a ten was a pen
pal with a twelve year old. Now as an adult,
she was pen pals with a twelve year old. But
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it just seems so sweet, you know. So I don't
know if those things will come through those specific things,
but anyway, the four people, well fiveband ft of us
there what we all want justice for my mother. I
think the detectives aren't invited to this meeting. Morse Maya
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will definitely be there. I have heard even since talking
about it recent you know shows like the last few days,
Morris Maya, he really is really really wants to pursue
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this case. Lucas King, I assume will be in the meeting.
Who is actually the man who's himself a homicide prosecutor
because Morris Maya is in the leadership structure, he's just
not the DA and he's worked there for twenty seven years.
I think it said Mars Maya, And I thought if
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someone like Marris Maya wanted to pursue charges, that would
be sufficient because he's so well respected, he's so experienced
that wagstaff still hasn't given his approval. Apparently the last
staff meeting, I was told yesterday that the last staff meeting.
I'm not gonna say who who said this to me
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because I don't I don't want to like get anyone
in trouble with like their internal politics. So they told me, oh,
apparently the last meeting got heated. And I said, oh, really,
this person I was speaking to wasn't at this staff
being but heard it. And I said, oh, I thought
the meeting before where you were at that that got heated,
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and then she said, just not to reveal it. Then
the oh, well, in that meeting there was a lot
of frustration, and that the person I was speaking to
expressed frustration. But in the meeting, the subsequent meeting, it
also got heated. So so there are people in that
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office who strongly believed this case should be pursued. It's
really just coming down to this one person, mister Wagstaff
giving the approval. And he says, the emails are weighing
in this decision. So please, even if you've already sent
an email, send him another.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Just send another. Give him a little push the maybe
the push that he needs, obviously having it at an effect.
Anything else before we close close, close it down. Do
people have questions?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Anything you want to add Alison?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh I've lost what time? Oh? Those are top? Oh?
Oh I put this is the email put up just
to show, he says, here, I want to highlight it.
So everyone, just I want to you know this is
this is large part gratitude to you, and show how
much difference it's made, he says, like so many others,
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and it goes, it goes on the scale of his
decision making. So I think that's the clearest message that
from the day himself saying it really does matter. The
more he's bembarded with these emails, the more the scale
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is gonna hip in the direction of justice. And I
don't think I have anything up here.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's not I'd be curious to ask him. I mean,
the thing I would want to ask him is why
wouldn't he want to proceed? What are the things that
are on the other side of the scale. And of course,
because I'm a natural my boyfriend calls it the saleswoman.
Maybe the blood way of saying is pushy, maybe naturally
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kind of pushy when I think something is right. But
I'd want to know. I tried to convince him as
to why those things were lesser or lesser of a
concern than any things they are. Do you have any
idea what's on the other side of the scale? And
we know if the emails obviously doing what's right, getting
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justice for your fan, family and all the friends. I mean,
you know, one of the themes on my channel is
how much these murders reverberate the You know, the effect
is so vast in ways that you don't even you
might not be obvious.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna make a note of that, reverberating.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What what do you have any idea? What's on the
other side? Is it just is he is he scared
to prosecute a cold case. Is he's scared he doesn't
have enough evidence? What do you know what at this point?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And yeah, I'll just phrase it like if you're going
to email him. The one thing that at this point,
not that it was originally at this point is counterproductive
is to ask him to do new forensic techniques or
DNA analysis, because he's done all of that. So I
guess it's just there is enough evidence, So it's not
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so much we want more investment from him to try
to get a new piece of evidence. But I think
he's afraid of like we've seen in Charlie's case, they
asked Georgia Kapelman, well why now you have this evidence
all along? So he's afraid of those kinds of questions.
I think. So yeah, if people write with write to
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him just asking him from justice, and then it's you
know what, there's even apparently I don't know who it is,
but one of the witnesses has cancer. I don't know
how bad. We they have cancer, but you know this
case doesn't doesn't you know, no case really age as well?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Right? You wait? I mean if we if we said that,
we said that the case was too old, I mean,
then why why then you might as well have a
statue on murder, right you might? After this long, we
can't try to escape. It's not Embarrassment is not a
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good reason not to go forward to save embarrassment. Why now?
Because we're doing it now? That's why. Now, now we
have the will we have everything together? Why now? Because
we can? You know, because we can?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I mean it is the same, like better now than never.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Right, I mean, what is he going to wait for
ten years? I mean, I mean, yeah, you know, I
think it's really important that we still have seen people
on juries. Like I've been talking about our juries. Our
stories are getting so infected with this idea that they
they really want to see a confession or a you know,
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we're multiple confessions and a videotape of the person doing it.
It's bizarre. It's bizarre. So good luck. I don't think
you need my luck. I think you have everything you need, Alice.
But everybody I know, all the we're all behind you.
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And if this goes well, if this goes forward, we
will have a big something great on this channel. I'm
not sure what, some kind of big party on this channel.
If we can get this done, this will we'll we'll
do something fun. We'll have a big celebration when when this,
if this decides to go forward and to prosecution, I
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have a good feeling about it. I have since the beginning.
A celebration, yeah, I don't know. Definitely an online celebration
somehow we will celebrate and thank you so much for
coming on and doing this.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Thank you for your support, ROBERTA.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thank you, thank you for your courage. You know, everybody,
get your emails out. Now is the time. Just do
it now while you're thinking of it. Pull out your
email app, whatever however you get on email. Send Stephen
Wagstaff the daa email. Just let him know that the
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prosecution of Nancy Galvani's murderer is important to you. Now
is the time for justice for family and everyone who
knew and loved Nancy, and for justice in general. Were
I mean, are we going to become a society that
doesn't prosecute murderers because of embarrassment? I hope not so.
(33:37):
I think that's my little spiel. Thanks so much, Alison,
thanks so much for coming by. All right, let us
know how it goes.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
All right, all right, bye, my check.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Roberta strides through the static case true crime Gotham, where
the shadows later placed frauds to fold when a spotlight beams.
Fact focused, queen busting, propaganda schemes, Glass shadow lies that
goes through the streets, standing for victims, giving voice their
meats and hyc Pole's truth sharpest Night referred to exposive.
(34:22):
She's the anti fried light partask warrior, dissecting Satan's defense,
twisted innocense, claims, breaking free sense. Gotham's truth Seeker cuts
(34:43):
clean with the blade facts in the forefront, No justice
gets swaying cold facts drip heavy real salt, gun furls,
cracking cases open like oysters with pearls, innocence, gimmicks, crumbled
the dust in the wind for victims, Her creed justice
till the end, headphones blazing, She drops heavy artillery. Now
(35:13):
we're just twisted meat, blunt objects, civility. Roberta god receipts
that unraveled deploy exposing the lies these frauds does deploy
glass shadow lies that goes through the streets standing for victims,
given voice, Standing meets in y C post Sharpers Night,
Roberta exposes she's the anti fraud light
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