October 20, 2025 • 62 mins
Why didn’t we see the last hour and ten minutes of text messages between Karen Read and John O’Keefe? Where are Karen Read’s text messages to Richie the plumber and why is their no ring video footage of him arriving in her driveway?!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, just to be sure you didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You all know if John was beaten up and attacked
in that house.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Who did it?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:14):
We don't know. We don't know, and it's not for
us to know.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Somebody other than Karen.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Somebody other than Karen is responsible for that for the
killing of John. You are listening to the ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Speaker 5 (01:13):
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(02:00):
or maybe a mixed drink or may I suggest my
favorite some schweps a black cherry Seltzer, whatever you like
to relax with, because we are going to be delving
into a ghosted part of the Karen Reid case. More
missing ring camera footage. And now I'm not talking about
(02:24):
the missing footage ring camera footage of Karen Reid when
she drove to John O'Keeffe's home after she reversed to
him at speeds of up to twenty four miles an
hour with her foot seventy five percent down on the
gas pedal. I'm not talking about that footage of her
(02:46):
returning home with her smashed to smithering's tail light. I'm
talking about the footage of her vehicle, of a vehicle
and a man exiting that vehicle that may have been
captured on camera's ring camera system if she owned a
(03:07):
ring camera system that hasn't been put into the public
domain in her home in Mansfield, or did one of
her neighbors ring cameras pick up the footage of Richie,
her Mansfield plumber, who Karen Reid claimed was in her
driveway in a text message to John O'Keeffe at seven
(03:31):
forty two fifty six. Why did Karen read ghost the
Tale of Richie the Mansfield Plumber? Why she kept it
out of the public domain, and it was the last
thing she fought with John O'Keeffe about. For an hour
(03:53):
and ten minutes, they go back and forth about this
plumber and Michael Camerano testify that John O'Keefe was upset
that Karen Reid would have called the plumber when John
himself was a pretty good plumber and his father that
John affectionately referred to as Papa, would have fixed it.
(04:15):
John O'Keefe's good friend from childhood until Karen murdered, John
had no doubt why Karen Reid's plumber tale would have
quote pissed John off. I mean John O'Keeffe's first response
to this claim that Karen Reid had hot water issues
was a text that read, you trying to piss me
off at seven twenty five thirty five And you can
(04:50):
listen to Brendan here when I asked him, why would
this tale of a plumber irritate him? Take a take
a listen. Okay, what is it doing is sharing? Everything
(05:38):
is sharing my whole screen. Hold on one second. My
web browser. My computer is all messed up, so I'm
using a a different browser, So hold on one second,
please be patient. Please hold hm, this is driving me crazy.
(06:11):
M Oh my gosh, hold on one second. I might
(06:31):
have to pull out of this. Oh, I know what
I can do. I know what I can do. Hold
on one second. Boo did do do?
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Do?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
How is everybody? There's one thing? So let me just
move into this. I put out an SOS on my
podcast for Richie the Mansfield plumber, to come forward if
(07:13):
you heard from Karenry that night. I haven't heard a word.
We've never seen texts from car from this plumber, from
Karenry to this plumber. I believe it was a fabrication
to rile John up that night to make him angry
and to start a fight, and also to delay coming
out for whatever reason. But you know, they go back
(07:36):
and forth. I mean, let's just take a look at
some of these text messages. Hold on one second. Some
of them are very interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Regarding again, hindsight is very a cop.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
So back immediately at seven twenty five thirty five. You're
trying to piss me off. Why would Karen read texting
a plumber piss John off?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Because his dad as a plumber, and Johnny was a
really pretty solid plumber himself. He had worked with his
dad prior to becoming a cop. So why would you
call a plumber when your boyfriend essentially has plumbing skills
is what would have fissed him off. So again, hindsight
is very clear, but she was clearly trying to annoy.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Him with that great she says, She says nothing. I
mean they're texting it. I mean, we can go through
these texts all day. Some of them are very interesting
regarding the kids. But I just wanted to I'm just
fascinated by this plumber that nobody had. So that's that's
(08:42):
Brendan Kane, John O'Keefe's friend of forty years on Richie
the Mansfield plumber. But we also know that Michael Camerano
not even sure where it is in this video. I
had every way now after hold one a second, a
major we had finally Michael Camerono can trial Weekly Weekly
(09:07):
says John told Michael Camerono that he was upset about
the about the plumber, about Karen Reid calling a plumber.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You took from that that there was an expectation that
Karen would be coming back to his house. Correctly, you
had no inkling that day that anything was wrong between
Karen and John. Correct, No, everything seemed fine between the
two of.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Them, right, yes, he did. He did mention though that
night that there was he was he was just he was.
I didn't understand why Karen had a plumber go to
the house.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Because he had somebody that could have done that work
instead of paying for the plumber.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Right, yes, yes, okay, And and.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yanetti immediately realizes this issue. You know, goes well, well,
you meaning that he would have had someone to fix it. No,
he would have fixed it, you, Eddie, you know that,
you know he knows what it's about. They fought to
keep this out. I hope they bring it up in
the symbol trial because it's such a good example of
Karen Reid's manipulation. She knows right where to go to
(10:22):
start a to start a fight with him, don't you
think I do?
Speaker 7 (10:26):
And again, as time passes, he looks back at the
entirety of the situation. What I think a lot of
people identified as like a jealousy and her behavior was
that of a jealous one. I've changed my mind on that.
This is this is always about control. This is control
in the situation.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
This is power and control, not jealousy.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Everyone is Wayne.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Okay, we can maybe play my fantastic Ritchie the Plumber
song at another at another time. But I was thinking
about my coverage of Larry Ray, the Larry Ray trial.
So who was Larry Ray. Larry Ray was a lifelong
criminal who moved on to the campus of my alma mater,
(11:17):
Sarah Lawrence College, and immediately like so, he moved immediately
from prison where he was doing time. Hold on one second,
immediately where he was doing time, to his daughter's college campus.
(11:43):
And the way he worked, I mean, originally he was
doing things like he became. He said he had a
background in what did he call it? It was, I
(12:03):
think he called it in psychological operations with the CIA.
That's what he told these kids at this liberal arts school,
a small liberal arts school outside New York City, and
he would do and he started a cult there, and
(12:25):
he trafficked the kids, and he used sleep deprivation, psychological tactics,
verbal abuse, violence, threats of legal action. But the way
that he worked it took me like a little while
to think back. It was one of the most fascinating
(12:46):
trials I ever covered from the courtroom and one of
the most disturbing. I think I'm still having nightmares about it.
But the way he worked was he would say, you
scratched my pain, so he would make an accusation, you
scratched my pan. How are you going to make it right?
And the way to make it right was always to
(13:08):
pay him money. And these kids stole money from their parents,
worked multiple jobs, trafficked themselves. One woman named Claudia Drury
trafficked herself to the tune of I think it was
one point two million dollars all every penny given to him.
(13:30):
At one point she bought headphones, and she felt so
guilty that she had bought herself a luxury when she
hadn't paid him back. And the crime that she had
done that she was paying way back for was that
he accused her of poisoning him and poisoning her parents.
She thought her parents would die if she didn't do this.
(13:52):
It was really a serious, serious coercive control case. But
it's the same thing I'm make it to make a
connection here with this plumber, and I'm not so. And
also to what was I think wrongfully described in court
as Karen reads jealousy right, So if you make an
(14:16):
accusation towards someone like this. You scratch my pan, you
poison me. You put someone on the back foot, and
you make them feel and you can make them feel
if you get them to accept your accusation enough, it
doesn't matter if it's true. You can make them feel
(14:36):
guilty and in debt to you. So here she is
telling John essentially you know that even though she had
asked him to put in a chandelier two weeks before
that the reason that she didn't ask him. And we
can go through these, let me bring it up, and
(14:58):
you're going to just have to have pati. It's with
me tonight because I'm in a whole nother browser and
nothing is working. So I'm doing everything on the Everything
I had said up is is going to be on
the fly. So let me pull this from my from
(15:19):
my downloads so we can look at them together. Did
that even work? It's a limit, it's a fifty limit.
So oh lord, let me see if I can pull
this in one more time. Now, Yeah, that's not gonna work.
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Let me take a quick break and see if I
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Speaker 5 (18:34):
All right, so I'm gonna just I guess I'm gonna
read these, but you're just gonna have to believe me
because I don't know. The file is too big to
show and I can't share my screen tonight. Can everybody
(19:05):
hear me? Hi? Eva? Can you hear me? Okay? My
boyfriend's saying he can just hear a whisper. All right,
here we go. Okay, So this starts, so they're talking,
(19:39):
just to give me, like some contexts. Karen Reid's asking
where are you headed? And JJ answers, trying to decide.
Maybe McCarthy's okay, then let me know where you decide.
I'm still down in Enfield. Then JJ writes back, texts
me when you leave still waiting McKinney's Karen Reid says,
(20:02):
I'm arriving. I'm having excuse me, I'm having issues with
my hot water, so I had to text someone to
take a look. And then JJ texts back, you're trying
to piss me off, and then he texts back again,
there's no answer at seven twenty six twenty four. So
(20:30):
the first one's seven twenty five thirty five, you're trying
to piss me off, and then it's seven twenty six,
twenty four. Hope your plumber buddy that you text it
is hot, and Karen Reid says nope, in a terrible
affront to Richie the imaginary plumber, saying that noe per
imaginary plumber is not hot. My shower only got lukew warm,
(20:56):
got lukewarm, and now my sink won't run hot at all.
The plumber I used to use is right down the road.
I turned temp thing it's somewhere I can't read. Turn
out temp thing in the basement all the way up.
(21:19):
And then JJ says, check the water heater and see
if it's leaking. Karen Reid writes back it's not, and
then JJ writes, don't do that is the pilot on lit.
Karen Reid writes back, I was trying to get my
shower hot. Yes, don't turn it all the way up.
(21:43):
It will burn out. He writes back at seven twenty
seven thirty two. Karen writes back, I had this issue
twice before, and it wasn't a disaster. I just can't
remember what the cause was. Just turn it back to
where it was and get over here. JJ says, I
don't want to come home in a blizzard and then
really be up schitz Creek, Chit Creek, she writes, not
(22:07):
Shit's Creek, Chit Creek, she writes. So here's the issue though, right,
we know that she snuck into after reversing into John
O'Keefe at speeds up to twenty four miles an hour
with her foot seventy five percent down on the gas pedal.
After she did that and spent to John O'Keefe's house
(22:34):
and invaded his home uninvited, and then plotted her cover up,
I mean, continue to plot her cover up from there
that After that, she gathered up you know, at starting
(22:57):
it a little after four or she's waking up Cayley
and she's starting to gather up people. The first person
she called was Michael Camerano, then Catherine Camerano, and then
she's and then they're not available. So that's her first
marks that she wants there. And we could see why
she wanted Katherine Camerano and Michael Camerano there because we
(23:21):
know Catherine Camerano strangely in her in her testimony, couldn't
remember any of the I would guess pretty incriminating things
that she said that morning. Everyone else remembered incriminating things.
But Catherine Camerano, she just remembered a lot of yelling.
Then Michael Camerano, we saw the way that he just
(23:43):
testified where he could barely in the second trial after
Innocent Fraud, Watch had written about a thousand blogs on it,
and I had talked about it certainly a lot. This
plumber issue he weaked weekly. We knew, we knew he
had mentioned it to the police, and we were saying,
why isn't he talking about the plumber. I'm not saying
(24:07):
it was us.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Maybe it got back to him. I don't know what.
Maybe he had a flash of conscience. But suddenly he's
saying on the stand like in the most, as my
father would have said, the most like looking like a
true capon. Okay, that's that's a castrated chicken. Uh. He
(24:29):
had a little problem, he said, they were Oh no,
And then I mean, let's watch the extended version of that,
because it's really telling. Let me see if I can
pull that up, the extended version of the of that
of the of the of his cross examination with David Yannetti,
(24:50):
how weakly, how weekly, And then he just says, yes, yes, yes,
they were getting along. Was did they kiss each other?
Speaker 9 (24:57):
There was no.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Signs of tension. And then finally he says something about
a plumber, a little tension about the plumber. I mean,
let's watch let's watch this. Hold on, let me pull this,
uh this video up. This is something not to be believed.
And why I'm so, I think courage is just a
(25:20):
undervalued quality. And if I were murdered, I would really
want my friends to testify truthfully and not save themselves.
They knew Karen Reid was popular, so they did everything
they could to help Karen read and not their dead
friend it was murdered, John O'Keefe. What a weak way
they testified by not telling all of the truth. See,
(25:52):
I think this is the one I'm looking for. Yeah,
this is the longer one. Let's take a look at him.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So with regard to that Friday night, January twenty eighth,
the plan was for you and John to go to
McCarthy's to have some drinks because there was a storm
coming in correct, and because of the celebration of the
girls getting into Bishop fund.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Well, we were going out. It wasn't a continuation of
the celebration of the girls we were going on to
have a few beers as guys help them.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
That's an important distinction that got misconstrued too in this
trial that they were somehow going out to celebrate. They
went out. They hung out every Friday night, Michael Camerano
and John O'Keefe, And if you heard my interview with
Brendan Kane, they suggest you check it out. That was
his release going out with his friends. So COVID must
(26:46):
have been the nightmare for John O'Keeffe. He was really
out and about guy drinking his light beers. Certainly not
the way Karen Rea Oh my lord, you can look
at my shorts on that, or look at my whole
interview in my first interview with Brendan Gane about how
(27:09):
Karen Reid could just drink all day and never seemed drunk,
which I noticed because none of the cops that morning
she was over the limit by a lot, and none
of the cops noticed that she was drunk or over
the limit that morning. No one noticed that she was.
Nobody said she seemed drunk or you know, that was
(27:36):
his impression, that she had a hollow leg that and
then she was doing some old fashioned, old school alcoholic
drinking essentially not his words, mind, he said, old school,
but alcoholic is my worth. Where she was mixing in
a shot into drinks because they weren't strong enough and
just drinking them every about every I think nine or
(27:58):
ten minutes. When John O'Keefe when he was reversed into
by Karen, he was carrying Karen's eleventh drink that night.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And when you were leaving the house, John asked you
to move your car right correct. Where was your car
when John asked you to move it that night?
Speaker 8 (28:22):
Actually I backed up my car. We were leaving the
driveway and John asked me to stop so he could
move his car.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And he wanted you to move your car because of
the storm coming in, and he wanted Karen to be
able to pull her car into the garage right correct.
And that was really thoughtful of him, wasn't it. Yes,
extremely it showed you that he was being chivalrous toward
Karen that night, right, Yes, he didn't want Karen to
be out in a heavy snow. Later when she returned
(28:50):
to his house during the expected blizzard, rights sustain You
took from that that there was an expectation that Karen
and would be coming back to his house. Correctly. Objection,
You had no inkling that day that anything was wrong
between Karen and John, correctly.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
So this is something that Innocen's FraudWatch has pointed out,
which is that do you see how deceptive that is?
Right here, Bye, I'm going to do I'm coming out
with a series on Yanette's lies, but in his history
(29:30):
as an innocent fraudster and his freeing of the very
guilty Roland Douglas Finney Mary Alexander's killer. But here he says,
listen to this. He says, she came back to John
O'Keefe's house. See, he doesn't want the jury to think
that she snuck back into his house. He invaded his own,
(29:54):
like at Virgo. She came from Mansfield, so she's not
coming back to his house. She came from Mansfield. She
would go back to mansreell that would be going back.
So he's trying to make this sound like it's natural.
Take a listen, and lawyers choose their words very carefully
and very deceptively.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Of course, toward Karen that night, right, Yes, he didn't
want Karen to be able in a heavy snow later
when she returned to his house. During the expected blizzard,
right assisting You took from that that there was an
expectation that Karen would be coming back to his house. Correct, Obs,
(30:32):
You had no inkling that day that anything was wrong
between Karen and John. Correct, No, everything seemed fine between
the two of them. Right.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Yes, he did mention though that night that there was
he was he was just he was didn't understand why
Karen had a plumber go to the house.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Because he had somebody that could have done that work
instead of paying.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
For the plumber.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Right, he had somebody who he knows that John's a
plumber and his dad's a plumber. He's got He had
to know that from I mean what he went through
the text messages or his staff did. He would have
heard about the hour and ten minutes going back and forth.
He fought to keep them out of court, and he's
not going to say John's a plumber. Look at how
(31:22):
hard he's working to keep this plumber business out of court,
and look how weakly Michael Camerono is not going to
fight for it at all. He just wants it. I mean,
he just wants to get off that stand and go
back to his normal life and not have anyone. Not
have Aiden Carney attack him, Not have Karen Reid's murderer
(31:47):
groupies attack him or his wife and go back to
John's dead. There's nothing they can do for him. That's
the way they're thinking. It's wrong. But I think that's
the way they're thinking. John's out there to get mad
at them. I'm mad at them for sure. This is
like some of the weakest friend testimony from a guy
(32:10):
who hung out with him every Friday night. Well, thanks,
oh my lord, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Okay, But in any case, the plan was for Karen
to meet up with the two of you, right, Yes,
And she did show up to McCarthy's at about eight
thirty pm or so. Yes, I guess if that's the time,
and you saw an affection.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
I'm sorry, what was the answer that you.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Said that was the time.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
I'm not sure about the timeline.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I okay, it was some time after he has gotten there, right,
But you do remember when Karen arrived, it was an
affectionate greeting between John and Karen. Right. Yes, you saw
them kiss, right, Yes, you saw John put his arm
around Karen, correct, and you saw that Karen sort of
(32:55):
nestled into his embrace. Correct, and when she did that,
that's when he kissed her. Correct. Yes, and they seemed
happy to see each other, did they not? They did
that night. They were affectionate, yes, laughing, Yes, happy, Yes,
(33:17):
like a normal couple. Yes, no arguments, No, you witnessed
no bickering, no tension.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
He just said he witnessed tension. Do you see this?
This is Jedi mind control. No bickering, no tension. Just
said they had tension. He was angry. And we know
they were parked outside thirty four of Fairview for a
while talking about something a few minutes before he got out,
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kissed out of obligation. He was polite person, not making
a scene, right, I mean, he and I I think
the more interesting part. And I really encourage everyone to
listen to my interview with Brendan, who knew him well
for forty years. It's so interesting. You know, I did
(34:14):
one in one other interview that I would say came close,
But this is the interview that my recent interview with
Brendan is had the most pushedback of any interview that
I've ever done on this channel, as far as like
every time I go to my ex account, I got
a zillion notifications people wanting to call me names, people
(34:36):
wanting to call not even wanting to people calling me names,
people calling Brendan names. He's a guy who friend, childhood friend,
is a friend of forty years. It's not like he
can replace that easily. His life was taken by Karen Reid.
He's entitled to have a voice. But the Karen readers,
(35:00):
it's not enough that Karen Reid got away with murder,
is making blood money, hand over fist on her murder,
selling her rights to book rights, movie rights. It's not
enough for them. They want to go to the far
side of this of YouTube and complained because John O'Keefe's
(35:25):
friend has a voice. I mean, it's like, it's the
only thing that Kate has come close to this kind
of pushback is when I had Stephen Avery's fiance on.
He broke off the engagement with him when she realized
(35:49):
he was guilty as sin. That's the only thing that's
come close on this channel to causing the pushback that
that Brendan second interview had Yes correct, No.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And during the month before John's passing, that January of
twenty twenty two, you observed their relationship in your presence
to be normal, caring and affectionate. Right, Yes, thank you
very much. Sir.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You asked a number of questions about the relationship between
John and Karen that night. Do you know what was
going on behind and closed doors other than what you saw?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Ill? No.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Do you know whether or not they texted each other
that day?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
No?
Speaker 7 (37:01):
That day?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Do you know whether or not there was any arguments
that day?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'll oh.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Not to mind. No, I don't. I don't know if
they are well. I don't know if they were arguing
over the plumber situation.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I don't know if there's any vulgarities.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
He does know because John told he doesn't know if
they're arguing, but he knows John was upset. So that's
not a stress free relationship. I mean, didn't you just
answer a question like that? Was it a stress stress
free normal relate? I mean talk about going over the top.
You know, when people say things are normal, like it
(37:42):
was a normal day, you know it wasn't it was
an average day when it was nothing nothing odd. When
people have to tell you what didn't happen, like when
Karen Reid told you what she didn't see, or what
John O'Keefe didn't look like you can reverse it and
say she's telling us what he did look like. He
didn't look mortally wounded. He looked mortally wounded. She made
(38:06):
sure that he died there. That's why she knew when
she told everyone he was dead that morning, she would
be right, because when she sped away, he looked mortally wounded.
What other point is there to tell someone they didn't
look mortally wounded. She's telling you what she didn't see,
what didn't happen, And so now they're going through great
(38:29):
pains to show that their relationship was healthy when it wasn't,
when it was coercively controlling in a DV relationship, to
paint it as normal as possible. Why such effort to
paint the relationship as normal in healthy? Because Karen reads
the lawyers know it's not. Karen reads the lawyers that
(38:50):
dealt with her, she says. At one point, she says
in one of her movies that she's made telling her
tall tales, she says, it only took me one or
two minutes to get really irritated with John when I
(39:11):
didn't hear back, Like she was waiting for him to
hear back and she didn't. Somehow her tail light just
pulverized into a million pieces or whatever. How many pieces
it pulvarized into I'm exaggerating a million, but it pulverized
into many pieces all over the dark side of the
(39:34):
lawn of thirty four Fairview, and microscopic pieces got in
John O'Keefe's shirt as she was waiting for him, and
he just suddenly he got into and a fight where
he immediately stopped moving within a window of when she reversed,
(39:57):
when her car reversed. I mean, come on, yeah, this
guy doesn't he knows though, he mean, he knows what
he experienced. Second beach Goal says, very that's very nice
of you to say, but they need your innocent fraud guidance.
I've learned so much from you. Clearly, this guy's tongue
(40:18):
tied and lost. I don't think he's tongue tied because
he wants to get off the stand. And I ask
people who would know about him and his wife, and
it only cemented my opinion of them. It wasn't that
I had this opinion after I talked to them. I
had this opinion before. And they said, oh, they're the
kind of people that keep their heads down they don't
(40:41):
want to cause any trouble. And you've got to be
a warrior for the murdered who cannot speak for themselves
and tell the truth. And to be a warrior, you
have to tell the truth and all of it and
stick up to these lawyers. And this guy just doesn't
have it. Neither did Catherine Cameron or she was worse.
(41:05):
Michael Camerona was the better of the two, but not
by much. I would be I would I would not
be able to live with myself if I gave this
kind of testimony that day.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
No, you know if there's any vulgarities.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
That night, No, not to my knowledge.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Do you know whether or not John was trying to
end the relationship with miss Reid.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Do you know that, sir?
Speaker 5 (41:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Next question, do you know if there was any jealousy
in that relationship?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I mean.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
She she, I mean, Karen wouldn't let I mean they
did everything together, a lot of things together.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
And.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
I thought at times you could see she didn't want
other women around John.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
She also didn't want other men around John or families
around John, as she isolated John and kept Brendan Caine
out from Christmas Eve. Their Christmas Eve tradition and said
she just wanted a family because she was worried about COVID.
Although she's never shown any fear of COVID. She's gone
(42:25):
everywhere on masked. The only time we've seen her mask
in Gord is when she's had to wear masks or
in pictures. She seemed to fly in towards COVID, you know,
I mean, so it was her way of keeping Brendan
Kane and his daughter and his wife out of their
(42:48):
Christmas tradition, Christmas Eve tradition. So it wasn't so the
accusations about your cheating is just to keep him on
the foot and keep him submissive. It's a very easy
way to gain control of someone to accuse them of something,
especially if they're feeling and they can be feel guilty.
(43:11):
You know, it's a way of controlling their behavior totally.
Because we know that when she was saying the whole
text messages, and you can go go back to my
episode where I go through all the text messages, she's saying,
you know, tell me your head's not into this. Tell
(43:31):
me if your head's not into this, tell me if
you're there's someone else. When she was already moved on
to Brian Higgins. At that point, she wasn't in the game.
She was the one who wasn't leaving the house. But
what a way to not let John know right that
she to think that she was some kind of needy
(43:53):
girlfriend who desperately wanted to stay with him. Well she
could she you know, she on him with Brian Higgins,
and she could drop him in a surprise way out
of the blue. Or as she's told Natalie Burnched out overwiki,
(44:15):
that the point of reversing into him was to teach
John a lesson at the minimum. And it's a mistake
to think that reversing into him wasn't planned. So this
has been maybe something that she had been thinking about,
her way to get back at him for the crime
of no longer being useful to her. You know, she's
(44:38):
a narcissist. She's already in the discard phase, so she's
not getting the narcissistic supply she needs. She needs to
discard him. What better way to do it by surprise
or in a way that we'll teach him a lesson.
So this plumber is all, you know, all part of
this coerce of control. And let me get back to
(45:08):
the page I was at. So I mean this goes on.
I mean, can you imagine arguing that this is not important?
We had people on this side of the aisle, go
what's the importance of this. I don't see the importance
of Its something that they their last argument that they
had together, that they argued about for an hour and
(45:30):
ten minutes together. I don't see the importance of it. Okay,
check the water heater. It's not don't do that pilot on. Okay,
we've gone through all that. Don't turn it all the
way up. It will burn out. I've had this issue
twice before. It wasn't the disaster. So the point I
was making about her home in Mansfield is that we
(45:51):
know that when she gathered up her murder vehicle after
getting out of the home, she drove it to her
parents' house. And we don't know when she ever got
back to Mansfield and if her plumbing issue was ever fixed,
because the next day she was out with hold On
one second, and so we don't know if she ever
(46:43):
got her plumbing issue fixed. The next day she was
out with a private investigator, retracing her steps, as she said,
and she told Gretchen Voss that she was lying on
her parents couch for days crying. She was already out
with a PI or ready trying to fabricate a narrative
that would get her out of trouble. So I've had
(47:07):
this issue twice before, and it wasn't a disaster. So
she's also telling what it wasn't what didn't happen here.
It wasn't a disaster. I just can't remember what the
cause was. Just I mean, this is all made up.
JJ says, just turn it back on back, turn it
back to where it was and get over here. Karen
(47:29):
Reid says, I don't want to come home in a
blizzard and then really be up to chick Creek. Yeah,
here we are again. So you're going home tonight or
tomorrow or whatever. I've had a chill. I've had a
chill all day since my shower. So now she's getting
sick somehow. It's going to snow all day tomorrow. No driving.
(47:50):
And that's another thing. Let's talk about Karen Reid's illnesses.
I mean, we've never seen any proof that she has
MS or a brain tumor, or that she's had her
entire colon removed, or that she has colitis, or that
she's had ten operations to fix her colon cancer, like
she's told Brian Higgins was using these kind of medical
(48:10):
issues another way that she kept power and control over people.
Something to think about. It's going to snow all day tomorrow,
no driving, JJ wrights, We're heading to McCarthy. JJ says
at seven nine, Karen Reid writes back, Okay, let me
(48:31):
know if you end up leaving. JJ writes back, why
now you're not coming? Karen Reid says, I'm waiting for
the plumber. I actually think so that's like a big
red flag to me. I actually think he's in the driveway.
To me, that sounds made up. But let me know
what you think when people say I actually, I mean
(48:53):
actually what he's either in the driveway or is it not?
He's actually what? Back? We're taking Mike's cars, arm relying
on you for a ride home if he leaves. No,
he did leave because his son got in an hockey
accident knocked out a dude. He's not going home after
(49:14):
eight o'clock on a Friday. He may have to get Michael.
You have a plumber coming over at eight pm. Knowing
me and Papa could have handled it. Good luck. I've
always told you, Karen Reid says, I will not put
either of you out of your way the way everyone
(49:35):
else in your life does. I knew it wasn't working
right when you were at the doctors with Cally, and
I knew neither of you could get here. And this guy,
Richie fixed it the last time. Whatever it was. He
was supposed to be here at five. He's not. If
it's not a quick fix, I'll tell him to forget
it at eight eight pm. It's not a quick fix.
(49:59):
Apparently he was it done right because it was in
her driveway. If you need a new hot water heater,
don't let him do it. He's here now. If it's
not quick, I'm not doing it. I just want to
be sure nothing is wrong and will go wrong when
I'm not home. So where's this? I mean, wouldn't her
neighbors have some ring footage of this Richie the plumber
(50:23):
or Karen Reid herself. He's not a scammer. Half the
quick stuff he does. He does doesn't even charge me for.
He just puts the toilet seats on crooked status. Still here,
Karen Reid says at eight o nine eighteen said he
got to go to home depot and probably be back Minyana.
(50:47):
So woman's symbol. Just trying to figure out if I
need to be here, what does it need? I don't know.
He showed me some pieces that were all rested, and
then she puts woman symbol again. I'm just a ditsy woman.
I don't understand that she's saying by putting the woman's
(51:07):
symbol there. I read that as I'm just a ditsy woman.
I don't understand half this stuff. At six twenty six
forty six on the on the water heater, he writes,
eight twenty six fifty nine, Yes, tell him to leave it.
I'll take care of it Sunday or Monday. No, it's okay.
I can either meet him here or just shut off
(51:28):
the alarm. So did she shut off her alarm? So
Richie here Mansfield plumber could enter our home the next day?
Well are these questions she's going to answer in the
civil trial? He used to work here while I was
at work. Does he realize it will be white out
(51:51):
conditions tomorrow? Am JJ writes yeah, but he lives right
down the road. So this Richie and a Mansfield Plumber
lives right down the road from Karen Ree in Mansfield. Karen,
this storm is going to be intense. Can't drive? Okay,
Well if he can't, he can't, I'll do it monday.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Ha.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
But I better not still have this problem on Monday.
You plan on being there. I know I can take
a hot shower here if i'd I think she means
like to know, but there's no like in the sentence.
I'd to know. I can take a hot shower here
if I need to. Eight thirty two fourteen. She writes
(52:36):
that figured you'd be in cant until monday. JJ writes,
I'm getting off my phone. Let me know what you're doing.
So he's been involved with her back and forth. You know,
Oh wou this Plumber? I think the four of us together.
So she's talking about the children now. Is toxic to
(52:59):
this relationship? Would like to limit it. You said so
yourself for probably a year now, so I doubt John
would be blaming the children. He doesn't acknowledge that blizzard tomorrow.
Nobody is going anywhere. Maybe I'll come back late tonight.
(53:21):
But she didn't come back late tonight. She went to
John's house and invaded it bad snow is in the
early am. I'll head up there in a few minutes.
Let me know if you leave. Sure, I'm going home
and then these are all to see you later. Your
kids are cucking alone. So that's the last message before
(53:44):
we have all these angry text messages after she reversed
into so, his last message to her was sure at
eight thirty five thirty four. That is the entire plumber tail.
(54:09):
Is Karen Reid going to show in the civil trials?
Is she going to show her proof of Richie the
Mansfield Plumber? Will Richie the Mansfield Plumber ever get in
touch with anyone at the ROBERTA. Glass True Crime Report?
Does Richie the Plumber actually exist? Is he only a
figment of Karen Reid's imagination? Or is it just fodder
(54:39):
for a really good song like this for me to.
Speaker 6 (54:43):
Arrive at the bar at home in Lands? Do you
dumb making up on Nu Cole Star? His name is
a Ritchie plumber. No hot water, it's a bummer. It's
(55:03):
all the figment of my imagination. Call it a lie.
I'm faint right, full indignation. Call the plumber. I got
a rusty pipe. Hot water is not working I'm.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
Starting a fight.
Speaker 6 (55:22):
Sure is a lie, but it's a little one. Gotta
get my boyfriend under my phone. John says he and
his papa would have fisted. It's only this broken pipe
in real life existed. Causing pain and suffering is what
(55:46):
I do best. Put in my boyfriend's patients through test
after test. Richie, my imaginary plumber, is at home deeed,
hoping that story will get a rise out of my
boyfriend and his little beetle.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
I'll arrive at the.
Speaker 6 (56:08):
Bush hollin up late, make him angry right out of
the gate. He's saw a feeling lovey dubby. I'm direct
twistin's comming. I'll down there any drinks and an him
over after it gets late, scream and cry it's you
John whae Hay. Leave him to die in a blizzard,
(56:30):
inflicting pain on a whizer. Can jender call nine one one,
have the whole town pointing fingers when it's over and dune.
Speaker 5 (56:51):
All right, okay, back back, back, back back. So that's
my song about. Yeah, I'll kick out that one, Mama bear.
I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard about it.
Sometimes I have to talk about why guilt isn't enough
(57:15):
talking about guilt? Isn't enough? Maybe for another for another episode.
I mean, you have these innocents fraud campaigns. Well, it's
not just about guilt. That is what I have for today, guys.
I have a whole bunch of new shorts up. I
(57:36):
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Speaker 4 (59:03):
I hit my boyfriend with my car. It wasn't an accident,
but with Lion lawyers, I'll go far. Lion lawyers and
witness harassment.
Speaker 6 (59:20):
Holl avoid prison.
Speaker 10 (59:23):
It was snowing. I pushed the pain on now, hit
him hard now. The legal system my clane in since
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for a campaign to save.
Speaker 5 (59:46):
My skin.
Speaker 6 (59:50):
Making money.
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Truth is my second victim, carry carry ginger.
Speaker 6 (59:59):
Like John You were, Mama. My innocence FROCK campaign is
my biggest h I hid my boyfriend with my coat.
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It was on.
Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
I pushed the pedal.
Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
Down, hit him hard.
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Now.
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carry carrying ginger like John Your word, Mama. My innocence
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for ad campaign is my big.
Speaker 8 (01:01:35):
Ish it.
Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
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Speaker 9 (01:02:07):
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Okay, just to be sure you didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You all know if John was beaten up and attacked
in that house.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Who did it?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:14):
We don't know. We don't know, and it's not for
us to know.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Somebody other than Karen.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Somebody other than Karen is responsible for that for the
killing of John. You are listening to the ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Glass True Crime Report, putting the true back in true crime.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
From New York City. ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Glass is now on the record.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Oh okay, how is everybody? Hello? Marianne, Hello, ain't no
Halla back girl? God a secret? Can you keep it? Hello? Hello? Hello,
Beverly Lawyer Wicked Uma Hello. Hello. So, if you don't know,
(01:40):
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If you're new here, feel free to participate in the
chat hang out. Get a cup of cars or tea,
(02:00):
or maybe a mixed drink or may I suggest my
favorite some schweps a black cherry Seltzer, whatever you like
to relax with, because we are going to be delving
into a ghosted part of the Karen Reid case. More
missing ring camera footage. And now I'm not talking about
(02:24):
the missing footage ring camera footage of Karen Reid when
she drove to John O'Keeffe's home after she reversed to
him at speeds of up to twenty four miles an
hour with her foot seventy five percent down on the
gas pedal. I'm not talking about that footage of her
(02:46):
returning home with her smashed to smithering's tail light. I'm
talking about the footage of her vehicle, of a vehicle
and a man exiting that vehicle that may have been
captured on camera's ring camera system if she owned a
(03:07):
ring camera system that hasn't been put into the public
domain in her home in Mansfield, or did one of
her neighbors ring cameras pick up the footage of Richie,
her Mansfield plumber, who Karen Reid claimed was in her
driveway in a text message to John O'Keeffe at seven
(03:31):
forty two fifty six. Why did Karen read ghost the
Tale of Richie the Mansfield Plumber? Why she kept it
out of the public domain, and it was the last
thing she fought with John O'Keeffe about. For an hour
(03:53):
and ten minutes, they go back and forth about this
plumber and Michael Camerano testify that John O'Keefe was upset
that Karen Reid would have called the plumber when John
himself was a pretty good plumber and his father that
John affectionately referred to as Papa, would have fixed it.
(04:15):
John O'Keefe's good friend from childhood until Karen murdered, John
had no doubt why Karen Reid's plumber tale would have
quote pissed John off. I mean John O'Keeffe's first response
to this claim that Karen Reid had hot water issues
was a text that read, you trying to piss me
off at seven twenty five thirty five And you can
(04:50):
listen to Brendan here when I asked him, why would
this tale of a plumber irritate him? Take a take
a listen. Okay, what is it doing is sharing? Everything
(05:38):
is sharing my whole screen. Hold on one second. My
web browser. My computer is all messed up, so I'm
using a a different browser, So hold on one second,
please be patient. Please hold hm, this is driving me crazy.
(06:11):
M Oh my gosh, hold on one second. I might
(06:31):
have to pull out of this. Oh, I know what
I can do. I know what I can do. Hold
on one second. Boo did do do?
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Do?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
How is everybody? There's one thing? So let me just
move into this. I put out an SOS on my
podcast for Richie the Mansfield plumber, to come forward if
(07:13):
you heard from Karenry that night. I haven't heard a word.
We've never seen texts from car from this plumber, from
Karenry to this plumber. I believe it was a fabrication
to rile John up that night to make him angry
and to start a fight, and also to delay coming
out for whatever reason. But you know, they go back
(07:36):
and forth. I mean, let's just take a look at
some of these text messages. Hold on one second. Some
of them are very interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Regarding again, hindsight is very a cop.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
So back immediately at seven twenty five thirty five. You're
trying to piss me off. Why would Karen read texting
a plumber piss John off?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Because his dad as a plumber, and Johnny was a
really pretty solid plumber himself. He had worked with his
dad prior to becoming a cop. So why would you
call a plumber when your boyfriend essentially has plumbing skills
is what would have fissed him off. So again, hindsight
is very clear, but she was clearly trying to annoy.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Him with that great she says, She says nothing. I
mean they're texting it. I mean, we can go through
these texts all day. Some of them are very interesting
regarding the kids. But I just wanted to I'm just
fascinated by this plumber that nobody had. So that's that's
(08:42):
Brendan Kane, John O'Keefe's friend of forty years on Richie
the Mansfield plumber. But we also know that Michael Camerano
not even sure where it is in this video. I
had every way now after hold one a second, a
major we had finally Michael Camerono can trial Weekly Weekly
(09:07):
says John told Michael Camerono that he was upset about
the about the plumber, about Karen Reid calling a plumber.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You took from that that there was an expectation that
Karen would be coming back to his house. Correctly, you
had no inkling that day that anything was wrong between
Karen and John. Correct, No, everything seemed fine between the
two of.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Them, right, yes, he did. He did mention though that
night that there was he was he was just he was.
I didn't understand why Karen had a plumber go to
the house.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Because he had somebody that could have done that work
instead of paying for the plumber.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Right, yes, yes, okay, And and.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yanetti immediately realizes this issue. You know, goes well, well,
you meaning that he would have had someone to fix it. No,
he would have fixed it, you, Eddie, you know that,
you know he knows what it's about. They fought to
keep this out. I hope they bring it up in
the symbol trial because it's such a good example of
Karen Reid's manipulation. She knows right where to go to
(10:22):
start a to start a fight with him, don't you
think I do?
Speaker 7 (10:26):
And again, as time passes, he looks back at the
entirety of the situation. What I think a lot of
people identified as like a jealousy and her behavior was
that of a jealous one. I've changed my mind on that.
This is this is always about control. This is control
in the situation.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
This is power and control, not jealousy.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Everyone is Wayne.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Okay, we can maybe play my fantastic Ritchie the Plumber
song at another at another time. But I was thinking
about my coverage of Larry Ray, the Larry Ray trial.
So who was Larry Ray. Larry Ray was a lifelong
criminal who moved on to the campus of my alma mater,
(11:17):
Sarah Lawrence College, and immediately like so, he moved immediately
from prison where he was doing time. Hold on one second,
immediately where he was doing time, to his daughter's college campus.
(11:43):
And the way he worked, I mean, originally he was
doing things like he became. He said he had a
background in what did he call it? It was, I
(12:03):
think he called it in psychological operations with the CIA.
That's what he told these kids at this liberal arts school,
a small liberal arts school outside New York City, and
he would do and he started a cult there, and
(12:25):
he trafficked the kids, and he used sleep deprivation, psychological tactics,
verbal abuse, violence, threats of legal action. But the way
that he worked it took me like a little while
to think back. It was one of the most fascinating
(12:46):
trials I ever covered from the courtroom and one of
the most disturbing. I think I'm still having nightmares about it.
But the way he worked was he would say, you
scratched my pain, so he would make an accusation, you
scratched my pan. How are you going to make it right?
And the way to make it right was always to
(13:08):
pay him money. And these kids stole money from their parents,
worked multiple jobs, trafficked themselves. One woman named Claudia Drury
trafficked herself to the tune of I think it was
one point two million dollars all every penny given to him.
(13:30):
At one point she bought headphones, and she felt so
guilty that she had bought herself a luxury when she
hadn't paid him back. And the crime that she had
done that she was paying way back for was that
he accused her of poisoning him and poisoning her parents.
She thought her parents would die if she didn't do this.
(13:52):
It was really a serious, serious coercive control case. But
it's the same thing I'm make it to make a
connection here with this plumber, and I'm not so. And
also to what was I think wrongfully described in court
as Karen reads jealousy right, So if you make an
(14:16):
accusation towards someone like this. You scratch my pan, you
poison me. You put someone on the back foot, and
you make them feel and you can make them feel
if you get them to accept your accusation enough, it
doesn't matter if it's true. You can make them feel
(14:36):
guilty and in debt to you. So here she is
telling John essentially you know that even though she had
asked him to put in a chandelier two weeks before
that the reason that she didn't ask him. And we
can go through these, let me bring it up, and
(14:58):
you're going to just have to have pati. It's with
me tonight because I'm in a whole nother browser and
nothing is working. So I'm doing everything on the Everything
I had said up is is going to be on
the fly. So let me pull this from my from
(15:19):
my downloads so we can look at them together. Did
that even work? It's a limit, it's a fifty limit.
So oh lord, let me see if I can pull
this in one more time. Now, Yeah, that's not gonna work.
(16:04):
Let me take a quick break and see if I
can fix this. All right, I'll be right back. Don't
go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
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Speaker 5 (18:34):
All right, so I'm gonna just I guess I'm gonna
read these, but you're just gonna have to believe me
because I don't know. The file is too big to
show and I can't share my screen tonight. Can everybody
(19:05):
hear me? Hi? Eva? Can you hear me? Okay? My
boyfriend's saying he can just hear a whisper. All right,
here we go. Okay, So this starts, so they're talking,
(19:39):
just to give me, like some contexts. Karen Reid's asking
where are you headed? And JJ answers, trying to decide.
Maybe McCarthy's okay, then let me know where you decide.
I'm still down in Enfield. Then JJ writes back, texts
me when you leave still waiting McKinney's Karen Reid says,
(20:02):
I'm arriving. I'm having excuse me, I'm having issues with
my hot water, so I had to text someone to
take a look. And then JJ texts back, you're trying
to piss me off, and then he texts back again,
there's no answer at seven twenty six twenty four. So
(20:30):
the first one's seven twenty five thirty five, you're trying
to piss me off, and then it's seven twenty six,
twenty four. Hope your plumber buddy that you text it
is hot, and Karen Reid says nope, in a terrible
affront to Richie the imaginary plumber, saying that noe per
imaginary plumber is not hot. My shower only got lukew warm,
(20:56):
got lukewarm, and now my sink won't run hot at all.
The plumber I used to use is right down the road.
I turned temp thing it's somewhere I can't read. Turn
out temp thing in the basement all the way up.
(21:19):
And then JJ says, check the water heater and see
if it's leaking. Karen Reid writes back it's not, and
then JJ writes, don't do that is the pilot on lit.
Karen Reid writes back, I was trying to get my
shower hot. Yes, don't turn it all the way up.
(21:43):
It will burn out. He writes back at seven twenty
seven thirty two. Karen writes back, I had this issue
twice before, and it wasn't a disaster. I just can't
remember what the cause was. Just turn it back to
where it was and get over here. JJ says, I
don't want to come home in a blizzard and then
really be up schitz Creek, Chit Creek, she writes, not
(22:07):
Shit's Creek, Chit Creek, she writes. So here's the issue though, right,
we know that she snuck into after reversing into John
O'Keefe at speeds up to twenty four miles an hour
with her foot seventy five percent down on the gas pedal.
After she did that and spent to John O'Keefe's house
(22:34):
and invaded his home uninvited, and then plotted her cover up,
I mean, continue to plot her cover up from there
that After that, she gathered up you know, at starting
(22:57):
it a little after four or she's waking up Cayley
and she's starting to gather up people. The first person
she called was Michael Camerano, then Catherine Camerano, and then
she's and then they're not available. So that's her first
marks that she wants there. And we could see why
she wanted Katherine Camerano and Michael Camerano there because we
(23:21):
know Catherine Camerano strangely in her in her testimony, couldn't
remember any of the I would guess pretty incriminating things
that she said that morning. Everyone else remembered incriminating things.
But Catherine Camerano, she just remembered a lot of yelling.
Then Michael Camerano, we saw the way that he just
(23:43):
testified where he could barely in the second trial after
Innocent Fraud, Watch had written about a thousand blogs on it,
and I had talked about it certainly a lot. This
plumber issue he weaked weekly. We knew, we knew he
had mentioned it to the police, and we were saying,
why isn't he talking about the plumber. I'm not saying
(24:07):
it was us.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Maybe it got back to him. I don't know what.
Maybe he had a flash of conscience. But suddenly he's
saying on the stand like in the most, as my
father would have said, the most like looking like a
true capon. Okay, that's that's a castrated chicken. Uh. He
(24:29):
had a little problem, he said, they were Oh no,
And then I mean, let's watch the extended version of that,
because it's really telling. Let me see if I can
pull that up, the extended version of the of that
of the of the of his cross examination with David Yannetti,
(24:50):
how weakly, how weekly, And then he just says, yes, yes, yes,
they were getting along. Was did they kiss each other?
Speaker 9 (24:57):
There was no.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Signs of tension. And then finally he says something about
a plumber, a little tension about the plumber. I mean,
let's watch let's watch this. Hold on, let me pull this,
uh this video up. This is something not to be believed.
And why I'm so, I think courage is just a
(25:20):
undervalued quality. And if I were murdered, I would really
want my friends to testify truthfully and not save themselves.
They knew Karen Reid was popular, so they did everything
they could to help Karen read and not their dead
friend it was murdered, John O'Keefe. What a weak way
they testified by not telling all of the truth. See,
(25:52):
I think this is the one I'm looking for. Yeah,
this is the longer one. Let's take a look at him.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So with regard to that Friday night, January twenty eighth,
the plan was for you and John to go to
McCarthy's to have some drinks because there was a storm
coming in correct, and because of the celebration of the
girls getting into Bishop fund.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Well, we were going out. It wasn't a continuation of
the celebration of the girls we were going on to
have a few beers as guys help them.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
That's an important distinction that got misconstrued too in this
trial that they were somehow going out to celebrate. They
went out. They hung out every Friday night, Michael Camerano
and John O'Keefe, And if you heard my interview with
Brendan Kane, they suggest you check it out. That was
his release going out with his friends. So COVID must
(26:46):
have been the nightmare for John O'Keeffe. He was really
out and about guy drinking his light beers. Certainly not
the way Karen Rea Oh my lord, you can look
at my shorts on that, or look at my whole
interview in my first interview with Brendan Gane about how
(27:09):
Karen Reid could just drink all day and never seemed drunk,
which I noticed because none of the cops that morning
she was over the limit by a lot, and none
of the cops noticed that she was drunk or over
the limit that morning. No one noticed that she was.
Nobody said she seemed drunk or you know, that was
(27:36):
his impression, that she had a hollow leg that and
then she was doing some old fashioned, old school alcoholic
drinking essentially not his words, mind, he said, old school,
but alcoholic is my worth. Where she was mixing in
a shot into drinks because they weren't strong enough and
just drinking them every about every I think nine or
(27:58):
ten minutes. When John O'Keefe when he was reversed into
by Karen, he was carrying Karen's eleventh drink that night.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And when you were leaving the house, John asked you
to move your car right correct. Where was your car
when John asked you to move it that night?
Speaker 8 (28:22):
Actually I backed up my car. We were leaving the
driveway and John asked me to stop so he could
move his car.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And he wanted you to move your car because of
the storm coming in, and he wanted Karen to be
able to pull her car into the garage right correct.
And that was really thoughtful of him, wasn't it. Yes,
extremely it showed you that he was being chivalrous toward
Karen that night, right, Yes, he didn't want Karen to
be out in a heavy snow. Later when she returned
(28:50):
to his house during the expected blizzard, rights sustain You
took from that that there was an expectation that Karen
and would be coming back to his house. Correctly. Objection,
You had no inkling that day that anything was wrong
between Karen and John, correctly.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
So this is something that Innocen's FraudWatch has pointed out,
which is that do you see how deceptive that is?
Right here, Bye, I'm going to do I'm coming out
with a series on Yanette's lies, but in his history
(29:30):
as an innocent fraudster and his freeing of the very
guilty Roland Douglas Finney Mary Alexander's killer. But here he says,
listen to this. He says, she came back to John
O'Keefe's house. See, he doesn't want the jury to think
that she snuck back into his house. He invaded his own,
(29:54):
like at Virgo. She came from Mansfield, so she's not
coming back to his house. She came from Mansfield. She
would go back to mansreell that would be going back.
So he's trying to make this sound like it's natural.
Take a listen, and lawyers choose their words very carefully
and very deceptively.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Of course, toward Karen that night, right, Yes, he didn't
want Karen to be able in a heavy snow later
when she returned to his house. During the expected blizzard,
right assisting You took from that that there was an
expectation that Karen would be coming back to his house. Correct, Obs,
(30:32):
You had no inkling that day that anything was wrong
between Karen and John. Correct, No, everything seemed fine between
the two of them. Right.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Yes, he did mention though that night that there was
he was he was just he was didn't understand why
Karen had a plumber go to the house.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Because he had somebody that could have done that work
instead of paying.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
For the plumber.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Right, he had somebody who he knows that John's a
plumber and his dad's a plumber. He's got He had
to know that from I mean what he went through
the text messages or his staff did. He would have
heard about the hour and ten minutes going back and forth.
He fought to keep them out of court, and he's
not going to say John's a plumber. Look at how
(31:22):
hard he's working to keep this plumber business out of court,
and look how weakly Michael Camerono is not going to
fight for it at all. He just wants it. I mean,
he just wants to get off that stand and go
back to his normal life and not have anyone. Not
have Aiden Carney attack him, Not have Karen Reid's murderer
(31:47):
groupies attack him or his wife and go back to
John's dead. There's nothing they can do for him. That's
the way they're thinking. It's wrong. But I think that's
the way they're thinking. John's out there to get mad
at them. I'm mad at them for sure. This is
like some of the weakest friend testimony from a guy
(32:10):
who hung out with him every Friday night. Well, thanks,
oh my lord, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Okay, But in any case, the plan was for Karen
to meet up with the two of you, right, Yes,
And she did show up to McCarthy's at about eight
thirty pm or so. Yes, I guess if that's the time,
and you saw an affection.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
I'm sorry, what was the answer that you.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Said that was the time.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
I'm not sure about the timeline.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I okay, it was some time after he has gotten there, right,
But you do remember when Karen arrived, it was an
affectionate greeting between John and Karen. Right. Yes, you saw
them kiss, right, Yes, you saw John put his arm
around Karen, correct, and you saw that Karen sort of
(32:55):
nestled into his embrace. Correct, and when she did that,
that's when he kissed her. Correct. Yes, and they seemed
happy to see each other, did they not? They did
that night. They were affectionate, yes, laughing, Yes, happy, Yes,
(33:17):
like a normal couple. Yes, no arguments, No, you witnessed
no bickering, no tension.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
He just said he witnessed tension. Do you see this?
This is Jedi mind control. No bickering, no tension. Just
said they had tension. He was angry. And we know
they were parked outside thirty four of Fairview for a
while talking about something a few minutes before he got out,
(33:52):
kissed out of obligation. He was polite person, not making
a scene, right, I mean, he and I I think
the more interesting part. And I really encourage everyone to
listen to my interview with Brendan, who knew him well
for forty years. It's so interesting. You know, I did
(34:14):
one in one other interview that I would say came close,
But this is the interview that my recent interview with
Brendan is had the most pushedback of any interview that
I've ever done on this channel, as far as like
every time I go to my ex account, I got
a zillion notifications people wanting to call me names, people
(34:36):
wanting to call not even wanting to people calling me names,
people calling Brendan names. He's a guy who friend, childhood friend,
is a friend of forty years. It's not like he
can replace that easily. His life was taken by Karen Reid.
He's entitled to have a voice. But the Karen readers,
(35:00):
it's not enough that Karen Reid got away with murder,
is making blood money, hand over fist on her murder,
selling her rights to book rights, movie rights. It's not
enough for them. They want to go to the far
side of this of YouTube and complained because John O'Keefe's
(35:25):
friend has a voice. I mean, it's like, it's the
only thing that Kate has come close to this kind
of pushback is when I had Stephen Avery's fiance on.
He broke off the engagement with him when she realized
(35:49):
he was guilty as sin. That's the only thing that's
come close on this channel to causing the pushback that
that Brendan second interview had Yes correct, No.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And during the month before John's passing, that January of
twenty twenty two, you observed their relationship in your presence
to be normal, caring and affectionate. Right, Yes, thank you
very much. Sir.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You asked a number of questions about the relationship between
John and Karen that night. Do you know what was
going on behind and closed doors other than what you saw?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Ill? No.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Do you know whether or not they texted each other
that day?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
No?
Speaker 7 (37:01):
That day?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Do you know whether or not there was any arguments
that day?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'll oh.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Not to mind. No, I don't. I don't know if
they are well. I don't know if they were arguing
over the plumber situation.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I don't know if there's any vulgarities.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
He does know because John told he doesn't know if
they're arguing, but he knows John was upset. So that's
not a stress free relationship. I mean, didn't you just
answer a question like that? Was it a stress stress
free normal relate? I mean talk about going over the top.
You know, when people say things are normal, like it
(37:42):
was a normal day, you know it wasn't it was
an average day when it was nothing nothing odd. When
people have to tell you what didn't happen, like when
Karen Reid told you what she didn't see, or what
John O'Keefe didn't look like you can reverse it and
say she's telling us what he did look like. He
didn't look mortally wounded. He looked mortally wounded. She made
(38:06):
sure that he died there. That's why she knew when
she told everyone he was dead that morning, she would
be right, because when she sped away, he looked mortally wounded.
What other point is there to tell someone they didn't
look mortally wounded. She's telling you what she didn't see,
what didn't happen, And so now they're going through great
(38:29):
pains to show that their relationship was healthy when it wasn't,
when it was coercively controlling in a DV relationship, to
paint it as normal as possible. Why such effort to
paint the relationship as normal in healthy? Because Karen reads
the lawyers know it's not. Karen reads the lawyers that
(38:50):
dealt with her, she says. At one point, she says
in one of her movies that she's made telling her
tall tales, she says, it only took me one or
two minutes to get really irritated with John when I
(39:11):
didn't hear back, Like she was waiting for him to
hear back and she didn't. Somehow her tail light just
pulverized into a million pieces or whatever. How many pieces
it pulvarized into I'm exaggerating a million, but it pulverized
into many pieces all over the dark side of the
(39:34):
lawn of thirty four Fairview, and microscopic pieces got in
John O'Keefe's shirt as she was waiting for him, and
he just suddenly he got into and a fight where
he immediately stopped moving within a window of when she reversed,
(39:57):
when her car reversed. I mean, come on, yeah, this
guy doesn't he knows though, he mean, he knows what
he experienced. Second beach Goal says, very that's very nice
of you to say, but they need your innocent fraud guidance.
I've learned so much from you. Clearly, this guy's tongue
(40:18):
tied and lost. I don't think he's tongue tied because
he wants to get off the stand. And I ask
people who would know about him and his wife, and
it only cemented my opinion of them. It wasn't that
I had this opinion after I talked to them. I
had this opinion before. And they said, oh, they're the
kind of people that keep their heads down they don't
(40:41):
want to cause any trouble. And you've got to be
a warrior for the murdered who cannot speak for themselves
and tell the truth. And to be a warrior, you
have to tell the truth and all of it and
stick up to these lawyers. And this guy just doesn't
have it. Neither did Catherine Cameron or she was worse.
(41:05):
Michael Camerona was the better of the two, but not
by much. I would be I would I would not
be able to live with myself if I gave this
kind of testimony that day.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
No, you know if there's any vulgarities.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
That night, No, not to my knowledge.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Do you know whether or not John was trying to
end the relationship with miss Reid.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Do you know that, sir?
Speaker 5 (41:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Next question, do you know if there was any jealousy
in that relationship?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I mean.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
She she, I mean, Karen wouldn't let I mean they
did everything together, a lot of things together.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
And.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
I thought at times you could see she didn't want
other women around John.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
She also didn't want other men around John or families
around John, as she isolated John and kept Brendan Caine
out from Christmas Eve. Their Christmas Eve tradition and said
she just wanted a family because she was worried about COVID.
Although she's never shown any fear of COVID. She's gone
(42:25):
everywhere on masked. The only time we've seen her mask
in Gord is when she's had to wear masks or
in pictures. She seemed to fly in towards COVID, you know,
I mean, so it was her way of keeping Brendan
Kane and his daughter and his wife out of their
(42:48):
Christmas tradition, Christmas Eve tradition. So it wasn't so the
accusations about your cheating is just to keep him on
the foot and keep him submissive. It's a very easy
way to gain control of someone to accuse them of something,
especially if they're feeling and they can be feel guilty.
(43:11):
You know, it's a way of controlling their behavior totally.
Because we know that when she was saying the whole
text messages, and you can go go back to my
episode where I go through all the text messages, she's saying,
you know, tell me your head's not into this. Tell
(43:31):
me if your head's not into this, tell me if
you're there's someone else. When she was already moved on
to Brian Higgins. At that point, she wasn't in the game.
She was the one who wasn't leaving the house. But
what a way to not let John know right that
she to think that she was some kind of needy
(43:53):
girlfriend who desperately wanted to stay with him. Well she
could she you know, she on him with Brian Higgins,
and she could drop him in a surprise way out
of the blue. Or as she's told Natalie Burnched out overwiki,
(44:15):
that the point of reversing into him was to teach
John a lesson at the minimum. And it's a mistake
to think that reversing into him wasn't planned. So this
has been maybe something that she had been thinking about,
her way to get back at him for the crime
of no longer being useful to her. You know, she's
(44:38):
a narcissist. She's already in the discard phase, so she's
not getting the narcissistic supply she needs. She needs to
discard him. What better way to do it by surprise
or in a way that we'll teach him a lesson.
So this plumber is all, you know, all part of
this coerce of control. And let me get back to
(45:08):
the page I was at. So I mean this goes on.
I mean, can you imagine arguing that this is not important?
We had people on this side of the aisle, go
what's the importance of this. I don't see the importance
of Its something that they their last argument that they
had together, that they argued about for an hour and
(45:30):
ten minutes together. I don't see the importance of it. Okay,
check the water heater. It's not don't do that pilot on. Okay,
we've gone through all that. Don't turn it all the
way up. It will burn out. I've had this issue
twice before. It wasn't the disaster. So the point I
was making about her home in Mansfield is that we
(45:51):
know that when she gathered up her murder vehicle after
getting out of the home, she drove it to her
parents' house. And we don't know when she ever got
back to Mansfield and if her plumbing issue was ever fixed,
because the next day she was out with hold On
one second, and so we don't know if she ever
(46:43):
got her plumbing issue fixed. The next day she was
out with a private investigator, retracing her steps, as she said,
and she told Gretchen Voss that she was lying on
her parents couch for days crying. She was already out
with a PI or ready trying to fabricate a narrative
that would get her out of trouble. So I've had
(47:07):
this issue twice before, and it wasn't a disaster. So
she's also telling what it wasn't what didn't happen here.
It wasn't a disaster. I just can't remember what the
cause was. Just I mean, this is all made up.
JJ says, just turn it back on back, turn it
back to where it was and get over here. Karen
(47:29):
Reid says, I don't want to come home in a
blizzard and then really be up to chick Creek. Yeah,
here we are again. So you're going home tonight or
tomorrow or whatever. I've had a chill. I've had a
chill all day since my shower. So now she's getting
sick somehow. It's going to snow all day tomorrow. No driving.
(47:50):
And that's another thing. Let's talk about Karen Reid's illnesses.
I mean, we've never seen any proof that she has
MS or a brain tumor, or that she's had her
entire colon removed, or that she has colitis, or that
she's had ten operations to fix her colon cancer, like
she's told Brian Higgins was using these kind of medical
(48:10):
issues another way that she kept power and control over people.
Something to think about. It's going to snow all day tomorrow,
no driving, JJ wrights, We're heading to McCarthy. JJ says
at seven nine, Karen Reid writes back, Okay, let me
(48:31):
know if you end up leaving. JJ writes back, why
now you're not coming? Karen Reid says, I'm waiting for
the plumber. I actually think so that's like a big
red flag to me. I actually think he's in the driveway.
To me, that sounds made up. But let me know
what you think when people say I actually, I mean
(48:53):
actually what he's either in the driveway or is it not?
He's actually what? Back? We're taking Mike's cars, arm relying
on you for a ride home if he leaves. No,
he did leave because his son got in an hockey
accident knocked out a dude. He's not going home after
(49:14):
eight o'clock on a Friday. He may have to get Michael.
You have a plumber coming over at eight pm. Knowing
me and Papa could have handled it. Good luck. I've
always told you, Karen Reid says, I will not put
either of you out of your way the way everyone
(49:35):
else in your life does. I knew it wasn't working
right when you were at the doctors with Cally, and
I knew neither of you could get here. And this guy,
Richie fixed it the last time. Whatever it was. He
was supposed to be here at five. He's not. If
it's not a quick fix, I'll tell him to forget
it at eight eight pm. It's not a quick fix.
(49:59):
Apparently he was it done right because it was in
her driveway. If you need a new hot water heater,
don't let him do it. He's here now. If it's
not quick, I'm not doing it. I just want to
be sure nothing is wrong and will go wrong when
I'm not home. So where's this? I mean, wouldn't her
neighbors have some ring footage of this Richie the plumber
(50:23):
or Karen Reid herself. He's not a scammer. Half the
quick stuff he does. He does doesn't even charge me for.
He just puts the toilet seats on crooked status. Still here,
Karen Reid says at eight o nine eighteen said he
got to go to home depot and probably be back Minyana.
(50:47):
So woman's symbol. Just trying to figure out if I
need to be here, what does it need? I don't know.
He showed me some pieces that were all rested, and
then she puts woman symbol again. I'm just a ditsy woman.
I don't understand that she's saying by putting the woman's
(51:07):
symbol there. I read that as I'm just a ditsy woman.
I don't understand half this stuff. At six twenty six
forty six on the on the water heater, he writes,
eight twenty six fifty nine, Yes, tell him to leave it.
I'll take care of it Sunday or Monday. No, it's okay.
I can either meet him here or just shut off
(51:28):
the alarm. So did she shut off her alarm? So
Richie here Mansfield plumber could enter our home the next day?
Well are these questions she's going to answer in the
civil trial? He used to work here while I was
at work. Does he realize it will be white out
(51:51):
conditions tomorrow? Am JJ writes yeah, but he lives right
down the road. So this Richie and a Mansfield Plumber
lives right down the road from Karen Ree in Mansfield. Karen,
this storm is going to be intense. Can't drive? Okay,
Well if he can't, he can't, I'll do it monday.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Ha.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
But I better not still have this problem on Monday.
You plan on being there. I know I can take
a hot shower here if i'd I think she means
like to know, but there's no like in the sentence.
I'd to know. I can take a hot shower here
if I need to. Eight thirty two fourteen. She writes
(52:36):
that figured you'd be in cant until monday. JJ writes,
I'm getting off my phone. Let me know what you're doing.
So he's been involved with her back and forth. You know,
Oh wou this Plumber? I think the four of us together.
So she's talking about the children now. Is toxic to
(52:59):
this relationship? Would like to limit it. You said so
yourself for probably a year now, so I doubt John
would be blaming the children. He doesn't acknowledge that blizzard tomorrow.
Nobody is going anywhere. Maybe I'll come back late tonight.
(53:21):
But she didn't come back late tonight. She went to
John's house and invaded it bad snow is in the
early am. I'll head up there in a few minutes.
Let me know if you leave. Sure, I'm going home
and then these are all to see you later. Your
kids are cucking alone. So that's the last message before
(53:44):
we have all these angry text messages after she reversed
into so, his last message to her was sure at
eight thirty five thirty four. That is the entire plumber tail.
(54:09):
Is Karen Reid going to show in the civil trials?
Is she going to show her proof of Richie the
Mansfield Plumber? Will Richie the Mansfield Plumber ever get in
touch with anyone at the ROBERTA. Glass True Crime Report?
Does Richie the Plumber actually exist? Is he only a
figment of Karen Reid's imagination? Or is it just fodder
(54:39):
for a really good song like this for me to.
Speaker 6 (54:43):
Arrive at the bar at home in Lands? Do you
dumb making up on Nu Cole Star? His name is
a Ritchie plumber. No hot water, it's a bummer. It's
(55:03):
all the figment of my imagination. Call it a lie.
I'm faint right, full indignation. Call the plumber. I got
a rusty pipe. Hot water is not working I'm.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
Starting a fight.
Speaker 6 (55:22):
Sure is a lie, but it's a little one. Gotta
get my boyfriend under my phone. John says he and
his papa would have fisted. It's only this broken pipe
in real life existed. Causing pain and suffering is what
(55:46):
I do best. Put in my boyfriend's patients through test
after test. Richie, my imaginary plumber, is at home deeed,
hoping that story will get a rise out of my
boyfriend and his little beetle.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
I'll arrive at the.
Speaker 6 (56:08):
Bush hollin up late, make him angry right out of
the gate. He's saw a feeling lovey dubby. I'm direct
twistin's comming. I'll down there any drinks and an him
over after it gets late, scream and cry it's you
John whae Hay. Leave him to die in a blizzard,
(56:30):
inflicting pain on a whizer. Can jender call nine one one,
have the whole town pointing fingers when it's over and dune.
Speaker 5 (56:51):
All right, okay, back back, back, back back. So that's
my song about. Yeah, I'll kick out that one, Mama bear.
I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard about it.
Sometimes I have to talk about why guilt isn't enough
(57:15):
talking about guilt? Isn't enough? Maybe for another for another episode.
I mean, you have these innocents fraud campaigns. Well, it's
not just about guilt. That is what I have for today, guys.
I have a whole bunch of new shorts up. I
(57:36):
also have shorts up that are just in subscriber only
mode for subscribers to check out. Please support the channel.
I cannot do it without you. Links are in the
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leave me a comment on almost every video that I make.
I really appreciate that. Even if it's just an emoji,
I appreciate it. If you see things on x please
share them. That's a great way to get the word
(58:23):
out about innocent fraud and about this movement that is
just really just like a tsunami in America. Have a
great night, everybody, and I will see you back here.
Now that I'm feeling better, I'll see you back here
(58:45):
tomorrow at six. All right, hit the thumbs up on
your way out. Guys, thanks for listening, See you tomorrow,
have a great night.
Speaker 4 (59:03):
I hit my boyfriend with my car. It wasn't an accident,
but with Lion lawyers, I'll go far. Lion lawyers and
witness harassment.
Speaker 6 (59:20):
Holl avoid prison.
Speaker 10 (59:23):
It was snowing. I pushed the pain on now, hit
him hard now. The legal system my clane in since
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for a campaign to save.
Speaker 5 (59:46):
My skin.
Speaker 6 (59:50):
Making money.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
Truth is my second victim, carry carry ginger.
Speaker 6 (59:59):
Like John You were, Mama. My innocence FROCK campaign is
my biggest h I hid my boyfriend with my coat.
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It wasn't an as both flying lawyers all go far
Lion lawyers.
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It was on.
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I pushed the pedal.
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