August 2, 2025 • 60 mins
New filing by the Commonwealth in Aidan Kearney’s case exposes how Aidan “Turtleboy” Kearney used discovery in Karen Read’s case to help killer Karen Read get away with her murder of police officer John O’Keefe. Also, Karen Read wants her phone & murder vehicle back. Read also makes a moves to get her claws on discovery docs in the Sandra Birchmore case. Anything to keep the blood money flowing! Let’s talk about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, just be clear, you didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
You all know if John was beaten up and attacked
in that house. Who did it?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:13):
We don't know, We don't know, and it's not for
us to know. Somebody other than Karen.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Somebody other than Karen is responsible for that, for the
killing of John.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
You are listening to the ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Glass True Crime report putting the true back in true crime.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
From New York City. ROBERTA.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Glass is now on the record. Okay, how is everybody? Hello? Jimbo,
(01:15):
Hello Vicky Moore, Hello Taterbug, Hello John Smith, Hello Miss Lisa.
So I just wanted to return to the Karen Reid
case today and talk about a new filing from the
Commonwealth in aiden Turtleboy Carney's witness harassment intimidation case, and
(01:43):
it says so much about how Karen Reid got away
with murder, aside from all the usual innocence fraud tactics
that they use minimize the really strong evidence in the
case and maximize the minutia, so make the minutia hugely
(02:07):
important and make the really strong evidence, just ghost it,
make the cops into villains, and make Karen Read into
an innocent woman, right she's the victim, and then ghost
(02:31):
the victim altogether. Those are just some of the tactics
innocence for our tactics. But today I'm going to be
talking about Aiden Carney's tactics, specifically in the way that
he used discovery, because of course he's asking in his
filing for all the things that the government withheld from
the public, and Cosgrove, Attorney Cosgrove, who wrote this violin
(03:01):
or signed his name to it, really calls out the
tactics of free Karen Reid to abuse discovery as a
way to find something something that someone wants to hide
(03:22):
and embarrass them with it, or to make the or
to make witnesses or especially you know, there's a reason,
especially in terms of Karen Reid. There's a reason why
Jen McCabe was targeted so much, because of course she
was the strongest witness against Karen Reid. So they go
(03:49):
into their phone records, finding their phone records, and of
course trying to shut them up because if they go
public with everything they know, which is why I was
constantly saying to the victim's family and the witnesses to talk.
Karen Reid's gonna talk. This was a case that had
(04:10):
no opposite I mean, aside from me and innocent fraud Watch.
Even people were saying Karen Reid was guilty. Was like, m,
I think it's an accident. Oh, she was so drunk,
she didn't know what she was doing. I disagree. No
one in the bar that night or the next morning
(04:31):
said she looked so drunk, even police who are trained
to look for drunkenness. I think that alcohol doesn't touch
the sides.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
With Karen Reid.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And I think she's a very calculated, manipulative, dangerous, psychopathic woman, murderer,
if you want my opinion. I think that's been said
for the woman who was never said, never came forward
(05:04):
and said, don't harass witnesses in my case, to the
woman who was smirking during autopsy pictures of the boyfriend's
body that she was supposed to have cared for. She
said she didn't love him, but cared for. You would
think she was with him for two years. So we
(05:29):
are going to talk about all of that today, and
so let me get to just get to this filing.
Someone was nice enough to put it up on x
and I'm going to just read it from there because
that's just the easiest way for me to read it.
Kind of an amazing So if you don't know who
(05:50):
Aiden Turtleboy Carney is, he's the blogger that had a
symbiotic relationship with Karen Reid, meaning I publicly advocate for
you through my blog and I get the click's views
and I get the discovery first. I get all access
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to all sorts of information first, and I increase my
power and my wealth through it, and Karen Reid's power
continues to increase. She's going from strength to strength. Ditto
Aidan Turtle Boy Karney. I do not see him doing
any time for these witness harassment.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Cases.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So the defendant Aidan Carney, So this is the defendant.
The documents that the defendant wishes to exploit for public
view are subject to a protective order and are not impounded.
So this is Commonwealth's opposition to Aidan Carney's motion to
relief case documents from impoundment. So for those in the back,
(07:03):
I'm just going to read the first sentence again. The
documents that the defendant wishes to exploit for public view,
are subject to a protective.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Order and are not impounded.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
The defendant, Aiden Carney, has repeated that several relevant and
material documents held impounded from the defendant and or public
view in the instant matters be released emphasis applied. Of course,
(07:41):
that is not at all what the defendant moves for,
as he makes clear that the very next sentence, wherein
he quote moves that the Commonwealth be required to satisfy
its heavy burden of secrecy as to each and every
doc it seeks to hide from public view. So language
(08:04):
is important, and that's the end of quote. I mean
language is extremely important. As the defendant correctly states, much
of the discovery supplied over the last six or seven
months has been turned over pursue into it an agreement
(08:24):
between the parties admittedly entered into without prejudice. The defense
now indicates it wishes to withdraw its agreement. So they're like, look,
you agree to this, now you want to when it's
good for you and good for your pr you want
to withdraw it. It seems to be a little confused, however,
(08:50):
as to just what it's agreed to, which is not impounded,
as the motion states, but a protective order, as stated
on the face of each such agreement endorsed as an order,
The issuance of protective order in the inherent authority of
(09:11):
the issue is the inhering inherent authority of the issuing court.
Let me read that again, as stood on the face
of each such agreement endorsed as an order, the quote
issuance of a protective order is the inherent authority of
the issuing court unquote, and protective orders this quote for quote.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Protective orders serve to.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Share shield litigants and third parties from unwanted disclosure and
as a practical matter, to facilitate the discovery necessary for
a trial. Okay, so they cite case law here, I'm
(10:06):
gonna just skip through that. The document in questions are
not quote unquote judicial documents filed with the court, but
discovery provided by the defense. Under mass r Crimp fourteen,
the commonwealth is required to provide the defendant with discovery.
(10:30):
We remember Rule fourteen violations from the Karen Reid case.
That was Karen Reid's defense tactic to ambush the Commonwealth
and not comply with her discovery fourteen obligations, so that
anything that their witnesses said.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Would be a surprise to.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The Commonwealth, and they actually got in trouble for lying
to the court about their relationship with their witnesses and
their ability to who hand over discovery in the Karen
Reid cases or Karen Reid's lawyers. Okay, back to the
Aiden Carni case. The Commonwealth is required to provide the
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defendant with a discovery that is relevant a term of
wide scope, whether that discovery is credible, material, or admissible
in court. This includes material which may well be excluded
at trial as prejudicial. It is not surprising that the
(11:34):
defendant prefers to characterize the order in question as impoundment
orders when First Amendment where First Amendment concerns, though not
unlimited in the scope, are at their zenith. For only
in the most extreme situation, if at all, may a
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state court constitutional forbid a newspaper or anyone to report
or comment on happenings which have been held in open court,
And similar rule would apply to court files otherwise unrestricted.
So they're saying, like, look, we have First Amendment rule
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in this country. It would be very rare for a
court to say you can't report on something. But what
they want to do is make all these documents public
and use it as a tool to manipulate our criminal
justice system to their ends. Consideration, an emphasis differs for
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discovery documents subject to a protective order as to discovery materials.
So a litigance has no First Amendment rights to access
to information made of available only for the purposes of
trying his suit. The right to speak and publish docs
(13:07):
that not carry with it its unrestricted right to gather information.
And that's what they want because information is power. So
the more information they have on people, they also they
also if they hasn't done it already, he wants to
profile the witnesses in this case, which he has done
(13:29):
so well, see their strengths and weaknesses, like the psychopath
that Aidan Carney is. Karen Reid too does the same thing.
I don't know if you remember her conversation with Brian
Higgins where she's saying, I can sum people up in
what it was at two minutes, five minutes, ten minutes,
something like that very quickly. Okay, So then they go
(13:55):
into again case law in general, Well, the standard for
protective orders is set for it in Mass Criminal RP.
Twenty six, which is analogy to the federal rule provides
in person in part that okay, let me just skip
past this secrecy is fine at the discovery stage, before
(14:19):
the material enters the judicial record. The trial court has
broad discretion to decide what a protective order, when a
protective order is appropriate. So that's just me reading some
highlights from that paragraph. Ample good cause exists to maintain
the existing protective order. The defendant has a well self
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documented meaning.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Look, he documented.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
His history of attempting to taint the jury pool to
obtain the results he desires. Hold, then, let me just
take a break and rest my voice for just a
hot minute. Everybody doing just checking in with them, just
checking in with you all. Are you still with me?
(15:08):
Are you still with me? They're gonna make uh okay,
doing great? Thank you, Taylor, Tayter's still with me. One
persons still with me? At least, I don't know about
the rest of you. Okay, okay, thank you, Debbie, Debbie
(15:30):
Ghive's still with me.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
The defendant has a well documented history of attempting to
take the jury pool to obtain the results he desires.
In the Karen Reid case, the defendant was candid as
to the goal of his Internet presentations and other activities.
As previously noted in eight thirty twenty three Jury Influences,
(15:57):
Carney is shown speaking to his audience with a bullhorn quote,
we need to continue to spread the word. Every single
person in Norfolk County needs to know the truth about
Karen Reid and John O'Keefe, meaning they need to know
the propaganda so that we can get a jury. And
(16:18):
I've heard some interesting things behind the scenes about jurors
looking to get rich. I mean, you don't get rich
when you convict Karen Reid. He served on a jury,
but you sure do get you sure do get offers
when you quit her of the most serious charges, ignoring
(16:39):
most of the evidence. Hold on one second, Okay, I'm
(17:03):
just getting something to drink.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I'm having a hard time with my voice.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You can't hear, but I will soldier on because that's
the kind of.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Person I am.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Carnie is okay, So we need to continue to spread
the word. Every single person in Norfolk County needs to
know the truth aka the propaganda about Karen Reid and
John O'Keefe. We are trying to affect the jury pool. Yeah,
that is exactly what we are trying to do. It's
(17:37):
like we're trying to take the jury pool.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
What of it.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
In pursuit of that goal? For Carney, extremism in support
of Karen Reid was no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of attacking witnesses, police, prosecutors, the judge, the jurors, the
grand jurors, and even the late victims family, the o'keefes,
(18:12):
who refused to bow down to Carney's preferred narrative was
virtue was no virtue. So showing moderation was no virtue
in attacking the witnesses family, attacking everyone he could, and
(18:35):
what that did was it made everybody shut up, and
it also changed their narrative. So when you're saying, like,
you know, even people who knew she murdered him and
were suffering and grieving the loss of John O'Keefe were
(18:55):
basically supporting Karen Reid in their narrative, in their own
in their own talking points. If Karen Reid has a
pet word to describe what he attempts to do to
anyone who stands in the way of his objectives, it
is to quote destroy again the Commonwealth previously noted in
(19:20):
the aptly titled Episode six six hundred and sixteen, trying
to destroy Colin's life so Colin. Albert Carney begins to
begins by musing about whether Colin's aunt, Jill Daniels, whose
(19:42):
photograph he displays, has a crush on him, a proposition
he modestly thought at first to be quote ridiculous. After
asking his viewers to weigh in on this important topic,
I love the sarcasm in this filing, pines that it's
quote wild because I'm trying to put her like golden
(20:08):
nephew in jail and like kind of like destroy their life.
But also but she also likes me, Like what two comments.
Daniels is not without is not a witness in the
read case, but a relative of a witness. Carney considers
(20:29):
her fair game for humiliation. Second, Carney explicitly states the
great the goal of his behavior with respect to Colin
is to destroy his life, and Karen Reid was fully
on board.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
If you think that this wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Tactic that was fully rubber stamped by Karen Reid's defense team,
you may have just been born yesterday. There are communications,
many communications between Karen Reid's lawyers David Ynetti and Alan
Jackson and Aidan Carney, and Karen Reid admitted she talked
(21:15):
to Aidan Carney every day. Notice they never pit publicly
came out and said, don't harass witnesses.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
If you want to work Karen Reid, you can.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
If they didn't think it was a useful tactic for them,
they would have called off the dogs. They would have said,
don't harass witnesses, do anything. But I mean, speaking of
but does anybody remember this? Hold on one second, They
(21:45):
just hopped to my channel so that publicly they were
saying that it didn't look good for them to be
shake hands at hearings.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
So there's a hold on one second.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Let me just see if I can turn off this sound.
So here is David Ynetti patting tirtle boys, but going
(22:28):
into court so slyly saying you know, hey, we can't
publicly it's like the ugly girlfriend. We can't right, so
we can't publicly show our unity. And he was saying
(22:48):
publicly that he didn't talk to Karen Reid, and he
was maintaining his journalistic loll integrity by not colluding with
her and getting to know her. But when he was
talking to her every day and her lawyers. If Carney
has a pet word to describe, okay, okay, moving forward,
(23:11):
His destroy the opposition approach was on full display when
Carney learned that someone had filed a bar complaint against
one of Karen Reid's lawyers, Alan Jackson. To a journalist,
as Carney sometimes styles himself, this might be news to report.
(23:33):
Another type of journalists, such as a opinion columnist, might
express a view as to whether the BBO complaint like
bar complaint, was a good thing or a bad thing
journalists quote unquote. Carney, however, immediately stepped into his role
as the enforcement arms of the Karen Reid team. And
(23:57):
they there's a footnote here to the actual video, and
he says, if you know where, I'll just say Deborah lives.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
They have her last name.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But whatever or whatever we need to like, we need
to find it out and we need to destroy her,
ruin her, make it impossible for her ever to work again.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Again.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't make the rule, And a lot of people
are like, no, we shouldn't do that. No, no, no,
m efor my word's not his. You fight fire with fire.
I don't pick the battlefield. If they pick this. If
they that's how they want to do this. Don't throw
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mud if you don't want to get f and dirty.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So if you know, if anybody wants to find anything
out about this woman, and that doesn't just include her,
that includes family, like the record, like the record. No,
if you do something like this, We're not just going
to stop at going after you. We're going to find
out where you Efen husband works, where your fen kids work, whatever.
(25:16):
We're going to make life Fen difficult for you if
you want to do this, if you want to go
real world. And I see Patricia saying no, let me
explain to the patricians of the world. You are on
the wrong station. This is not the station where we act.
We are where we're the bigger person.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
No, God Aiden Carney talks to like he still the
teacher talks to his audience like their kindergarteners.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
No, this is the place where you try to f
with somebody's career like that, we f with your career. Okay,
we give you you bad Google reviews.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
We give you bad Google reviews.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
E f give give you a problem or no, no, no,
we don't do it at all, or don't do it
at all, Like, that's what I would suggest.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I think none of us should do it.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So here he is gas lighting everyone and saying, so, yeah,
I told everyone not to do it.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
These criminals always covering themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
But if they're going to fight fire that way, and
you want to be like, oh, we should.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Just do that, that's bad. Oh oh you're at.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
The wrong You're on the wrong channel. That's not a
channel where we just get to be the bigger person.
That's not what we f and do. Here, we fight
fire with fire.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
It goes on.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
If you want to f with people's lives like that,
we're going to f with yours, period, period, period. You
want to enter the arena, now you're in the f
an arena. You want to be in the game, Now
you're in the game. Anyway, that's how it works. Episodes
eighty five Karen Reid case mc Albert agitators protected by
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Denham Police.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Peto simps for Proctor.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
The destroy rant against Cora is all the more remarkable
given that Carney already knew that she was a California resident.
So everyone has a so aiden Carney makes a big
deal about his First Amendment right to speak, but anyone
else with an opinion that he doesn't like, He's going
to go after them and destroy them. Pretty much the
(27:33):
most Unamerican thing that you can do Carney herself, but
to give notice to potential dissenters from the Turnobyl line
that they do could be destroyed. Carney has continued his
modus operendi in the Karen Reid case in reporting on
his own case once again. He publicizes his upcoming court
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appearances and encourages his viewers to attend court proceedings. Once again.
The exterior of the courthouse is lined with picketers hearing
bearing signs once again. Many of them are in shirts,
some commercially sold by Carney, bearing slogans designed to elicit
(28:19):
public support. Journalism is not a crime, but apparently disagreeing
with turtle Boy as a crime publicly as Karen Reid's
supporters adopted pink as their signature color, so now Carney
is polling his viewers as to an appropriate Turtle Boy color.
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Oh God, my eye roll could not be bigger, by
the way, the channel colors of the Ropertic Last Tear
Crime Report will always be red and black, maybe a
little white here and there. He continues to harass witnesses
and show up as their residents and show up at
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their residence.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Over the July.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Fourth weekend, he and his current girlfriend drove to the
home of witness Brian Higgins, who noticed him in the
car and moved to intercept him, leading Carne to flee.
So Carney has posted his own video account. Okay, so
here's a Carney's.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
A little footnote.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Carney's propensity for attacking witnesses through family members has previously
been well documented in filings by the Commonwealth. For example,
Carney's showing up at sports events where a witness's daughters
are playing, mocking her husband as a now p word
(29:55):
for standing there and doing nothing, while Carney disrespected his
wife in public, harassing a police officer's wife and posting
pictures of another officer's young children on his website of
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the event on law. Okay, so we're going back to Higgins.
So Aiden posted his own video and recollection or his
own version of what happened at this event, where he
was at Haiggin's house with his girlfriend, Meredith O'Neill is.
Aiden Carney still married by the way, casting Higgins as
(30:39):
a fool and proclaiming his own innocent intentions. As with
the Karen Reid case, documents filed in court are immediately
publicized and spun by Carney. Court appearances are often hyped
by promises of bombshell revelations. Consider recent defense filings in
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the case and see Turtle Boy Daily News Can't and
Cover Up Part five oh eight sworn affi David alleges
Commonwealth agent Kate Peter was paid fifteen hundred monthly bribed
with couch by Jennifer McKay to spread disinformation about Karen
Reid while working directly with Hank Brennan and Michael Morrissey.
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Carney has a well documented history of abusing discovery materials
to harass witnesses. Again, as previously noted, when the Commonwealth
provided Defense Council inadvertently and over generously with a complete
download of one witness's cell phone, Council immediately provided a
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copy to Carney, who, in the face of an agreed
upon subsequent court order that he would use only material
relevant to his case, immediately proceed to violate it. See
Generally Paper fifty two Commonwealth's motion for protective Order in
return of certain confidential information extracted from victim's cell phone.
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The subsequent commonwealths motion to vacate this court order of
September twenty seven, twenty twenty four, in light of its
manifest and effectiveness, and to adopt order proposed herein impounded
and exhibits presented to open Court and is so import
of impounded. Carney continues to use his lie's discovery to
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publicly attack witnesses in this case, delving into alleged character
flaws and alleged misconduct that has no relevance to the
charges before the court, which, in addition to their emotional
toll on the victims, can only serve to poison the
jury pool. I mean, if you look at some of
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the witnesses in Karen read CA's they're still being harassed
despite Judge and their children are being harassed. Despite Judge
Krupp's order, Carney has continued to use material he acquired
through discovery to publicly harassed witnesses. The Commonwealth directs the
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court's attention to the previously filed letter of March twenty six,
twenty twenty five, by one such witness, filed pro se
with leave of the Court addressed to Judge Doolan who
Loves Loves Aidan Carney, which literally quotes from mister Carney's
online presentation, for which he provides specific citation and sketches
(33:47):
in vivid details the effect of such verbal assaults upon her. Okay,
so here are the footnotes. The video of Hagen's running
after Carney's car and falling down appear to be stayed
as alert viewers should notice, but the more credulous may not.
Although Carney claims to not remember to whom he gave
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copies of Lindsay Katani's cell phone extraction, it is clear
that one such person is Jason Browles, an acolyte of
Carne's who has posted under various names, including Haley Wallbrecht
and not Haley Waalbrecht Wallbreck post material calculated to humiliate
(34:31):
Katani and urge her to recant or face the consequences,
including indictment and further attack posts. In one such post,
he states, we'll just take the incriminating information from her
phone that we all believe shows that her and her
friends entered into a criminal enterprise.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
What do you call? Free Karen read?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
With some assistance from government officials, Some free Karen readers
were saying, I you know online that Karen Reid was
getting cash delivered to her car every day at court.
I mean just the money of free Karen Reid has
never been accounted for. I think she's made so much
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blood money from this. I have to take a break
and the rest of my boys I will be Does
Turtle Boy have a hearing coming up for this? Yes, Tuesday,
it's ongoing that virgins. I'm not exactly sure the day,
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but he wants to all this tough.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
He wants all the.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Discovery now that they agreed would be kept private. He
went it all out so he can use it and
spend it for his own aids in the same way
he spent spun for Karen Reid. Karen read is now
the blueprint of how he's going to get away with
witness harassment, and I think it might work. I'm not
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convinced he's gonna do any time, but we'll say, all right, let.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Me see.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
It'll be just take a quick break and I'll be
right back. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
My check.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
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headphones blazing, she drops heavy artillery. Now it just twisted meat,
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she's the anti fraud Light.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Oh okay, we are back. I can send you the
link to this link if you want put it in
the hold one second. I can put it in the
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chat for you guys, so if you want to read along.
I just didn't find a Google document version of it.
But we're almost all the way through it. We're through
the important parts I thought. I mean, it just shows
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that he's gotten a real education and made a blueprint
and how to do this. And I think it will
be done like this, this kind of witness harassment, pre
trial innocence fraud campaign will be done like this with.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Different murderers. I mean, did you see that the honor
killing case?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
They got a not guilty verdict, so they're not just
So what this innocence fraud movement does is it it
brainwashes a whole generation of future jurors into thinking they
don't want to convict anybody who's guilty. This is why
I thought it was so great that Coburger bled out.
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I mean, he could have gotten off. I mean that's
the way the YouTubers and true crime people were going
that he was wrongfully accused, and they go, no, no, no,
it's different. Coburger admitted to what he did. This is
what Aiden Carney says. Not initially, not initially, he didn't
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he was putting in filings about alternative suspects, etc.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Etc.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
But the judge totally forbid a third party culprit and
didn't let Coburger's defense team develop it the way CANNONI did.
I mean CONNONI was like another wing of the Caarentry
defense team. Okay, so let me move forward. Unrestricted use
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of discovery materials would facilitate Carney's continuing attack on victims
and witnesses. It has. It has long been the case
that relevant statements of witnesses are to be provided by
the Commonwealth and Discovery. The widespread use of electronic communications
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has made it significantly easier for witnesses to communicate with
prosecutors during the pendency of their cases. Okay, so mass
criminal code blah blah blah requires automatic discovery of the
written and recorded statements of a person who has testified
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before a grand jury, and the written or recorded statements
of persons the prosecutor may call as witnesses. Emails and
texts fall under this definition, unless you're going to be
like Karen Reid's legal team and communicate with their witnesses
via encrypted app with the communications on auto delete, so
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then they just go in and testify. They can't hand
them over because they're all gone. The lawyer didn't do
his due diligence. Karen Reid's lawyers didn't do their due
diligence by keeping those communications, and and now the state
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has no access to them, so they can talk in
secret and plan the secret and ambush the Commonwealth. Emails
and texts fall under this definition. Of course, irrelevant statements
need not be provided, but relevance is quite broadly construed.
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It includes, for example, any information reflecting bias or prejudice
against the defendant. In the present case, the defendant has
created a cycle generating discoverable comments. He mocks, smears, or
otherwise attacks witnesses and their family members online. His actions
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come to the attention of the witnesses, who then complain
to the District Attorney's office and ask if something can
be done to ameliorate this situation. Thus, statements, while often
saying nothing about the facts and the indictments before the court,
arguably inform the Commonwealth of subsequent bad acts of Carney's
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and often express bias or prejudice against the defendant, and
therefore are discoverable. Bias against Carney is the least difficult
thing the defense has to prove why would the witnesses
not loathe Carne given his treatment of them, and why
would they not freely admit to doing so? Ironically, okay, ironically,
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the credibility of the witnesses and their potential bias does
not loom large as a factor in most of the
indictments before this court. The Commonwealth's evidence is largely based
on Carney's own statements and actions, lovingly recorded and broadcast
by him for all the world to see. These videos
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speak for themselves. There can be no serious dispute as
to his actions, whether they are as he claims mere
First Amendment free speech, or whether, whatever their speech component,
they cross over the line to intimidation is the issue
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to be tried by the jury. As the witnesses communications
with the District Attorney's office may doubtless many okay, hold
on as the witness's communication with the District Attorney's office,
many doubtless written in the mistaken belief that they would
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not be turned over to the defense, come to Carney's attention.
They provide him with a roadmap as to which of
his attacks have caused the most pain, and they are
gristed further attacks for this reason if no other, the
protective order should stand. So he's saying very interesting here,
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Cosgrof is saying, Look, Carney profiles people just the way
Karen Reid does, and he finds out their weakness in
their strengths. If he hasn't already profile, I think he's
already has them pretty well summed up, and he knows
what's going to get it under their skin, and what's
going to cause maximum damn it and what's going to
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make them strike out and act in a way that
makes him look good and they look bad, them look bad.
So it's very much. I mean, this is why they
say with psychopaths you have to just go.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
You have to cut them off completely. You can't.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
It's a fool's game to try to win with them.
Various emails and other communications between witnesses and the case
and families mentioned that the District Attorney's office were turned
over subject to protective orders in the case. These documents
are readily identifiable by bait stamps, because these witnesses were,
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for the most part, alleged victims. In the present case,
the same documents were provided here. Defense counsel asserted in
open court that those orders became inoperative essentially automatically upon
the conclusion of the Reed trial. The defense cites no
case law for this proposition. The Commonwealth view is the contrary.
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So here's where they talk about appending investigation. Now, is
this something like Tony Soprano says, they always say it's
an ongoing investigation to make it sound good, or is
there a federal ongoing investigation or some other kind of
investigation into Aiden Garney and perhaps Karen Reid witness harassment.
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Anything that doesn't include her lawyers, to me is kind
of a waste of time.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
If i'd say a waste of time, let me go back,
I would say so much of this was done with
Karen Reid's like as a strategy for her to get
away with her murder. So yeah, I think it's really
important that these lawyers who have the most powered, are
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the most dangerous be called out legally. So it would
not be complete without that would be a better way
to put it. Not be complete without the inclusion of
Karen Reid's lawyers. Routinely cited in the read protective order
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is a representedation by the prosecutors that certain materials be
provided as discovering the case and maybe evidence and unrelated
criminal case cases. This language has been duplicated in the
Carni protective Orders. Undersigned counsel as a special prosecutor, unlike
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all but one of the prosecutors assigned to the read case,
can claim familiarity with other cases being prosecuted by the
Norfolk District Attorney's Office. However, he can attest that some
of the discovery turned over bears on an ongoing investigation
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in which he is involved. That he was saying Aiden
Carney is the subject of an ongoing investigation. Council is prepared,
if necessary, to make an EXPARTI showing to this court
to verify the existence of this investigation. So does this
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have to do with Jessica Leslie, the grand juror who
got punished or will anything come of this ongoing investigation?
It would be extremely unpopular for the district attorneys for
the Attorney General's Office to go after Aiden Carney.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
Free.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Karen Reid has become very popular in Massachusetts, so we'll see,
I'm gonna leave it there. Also, Karen Reid is asking
for her phone back in her murder vehicle back, but
she also wants documents in the Sandra Birchmore case. Let's
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take a look at this reporting by Karen Reid by
murderer supporter Ted Daniel, by innocent fraudster Ted Daniel.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
A listen.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Civil lawyers investigator has learned her team has fired off subpoenas.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
So Karen Reid has gone from strength to strength. While
the witnesses the Karen Reid case are complaining about being harassed,
she is preparing for her civil trial, which is what
this side should be doing, including Kerrie Roberts, Jennifer McCabe,
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John o'keef's niece family and making sure their testimony is
as strong as possible.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Or legal demands to several government agencies, including the mass
State Police and the Norfolk County District Attorney's office. The
subpoenas seek a mountain of materials from Reed's criminal case,
including records related to prosecution, witnesses, fired State Trooper Michael Proctor,
and the federal investigation of law enforcement. A source tells
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me Reed's team is also seeking any communication the DA's
office may have had with the FEDS about the Sandra
Birchmore case. Birchmore's death was initially ruled a suicide, but
a subsequent federal investigation determined she had been murdered.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
And then they had to They redid the autopsy in
that case after a lot of public pressure. So we
still haven't seen all the evidence in that case.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
The Colonel case is over, she still faces a wrongful
death lawsuit filed by the family of John O'Keefe.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
I will let you know.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
If the DA's office provides me with comment.
Speaker 5 (52:31):
So that is it, Daniel. He's going to keep us abreast.
She wants all of it.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
It's very similar to Aiden Carti. She wants every you know,
everything she can get her hands on, to make the
people that arrested her have the most knowledge of her
guilt into villains, make them look bad and make herself
look good.
Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yeah that's what I was just showing, VICKI.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, yeah, so that's what they're looking for. I agree
with you. So she wants she wants to twist everything
and tie her case to a case that as being
seen publicly as a case of the corruption or or
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some kind kind of real evilness in the police department
in Massachusetts. So she wants to connect her case with
that where they found no corruption. Defense have looked into it.
Karen Reid's case found no corruption, no conspiracy. They had
an independent auditor look at the case, found no corruption,
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no conspiracy. But so what is she going to do.
She's going to attach her case to a case that's
largely seen that way. We still haven't seen the facts
in the Sander Birchmore case that has been played out
in the court of public opinion too. So that is
what I have for today. I just wanted to do
a quickie because I thought that that filing. It's a
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little bit longer than what I read, but I thought
I read the most pertinent parts.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Are.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I thought it was a fascinating filing. I mean, it
just calls out exactly how Aiden Karney works, use witnesses communications,
get all the discovery to profile them, to learn how
to harass them, to learn how to illicit behavior that's
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going to make them look bad and him look good,
to hone in on their weaknesses, to exploit their weaknesses,
to exploit I mean, we all have all our car
we all have weaknesses, and what Aidan Karney does is
exaggerate them. While you know, never critical of Karen Reid
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or himself. They're perfect but everyone else in the case
is you know, anybody with real knowledge of his guilt,
Karen Read's guilt, his guilt as far as witness harassment
or sees it as a witness arrassment.
Speaker 5 (55:19):
It's going to be public.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
And I mean number one, where is the you know
is the direct recipient of this kind of harassment. Now,
I don't think he's going to be convicted of this now.
The judge Dulan seems to be absolutely in love with
his defense team, and I don't know if he's going
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to I don't know how he's going to try all
these cases. If he's going to do it like the
one before where he got a not guilty verdict. He's
got really good lawyer, he's got decent lawyers, I mean
fraudster lawyers. Doesn't it say innocence fraudster lawyers who know
how to work the system.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
So I don't think they're really.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Good lawyers, good lawyers lawyer in court, but they're certainly
lawyer in the court of public opinion and doing everything
they can to get them out so to get them
off on these cases.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
I'm not convinced that there's going to be any charges
coming from the fence.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
But we'll see. I may be wrong, I may be right.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
We'll see. So far, I've called this right all the way. Unfortunately,
I said Karen Reid would fearing she would get off,
and she did. I just know how powerful these innocent
fraud campaigns are. Okay, please hit the thumbs up on
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But with Lion lawyers I'll go far. Lion lawyers and
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Truth is my second victim.
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boyfriend with my coat.
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Carry carrying, chinging like John your word, my mother. My
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Speaker 2 (59:48):
Is it
Yeah, just be clear, you didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We know who did it, Steve, we know, and we
know who spearheaded this cover up.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
You all know if John was beaten up and attacked
in that house. Who did it?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:13):
We don't know, We don't know, and it's not for
us to know. Somebody other than Karen.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Somebody other than Karen is responsible for that, for the
killing of John.
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You are listening to the ROBERTA.
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Glass is now on the record. Okay, how is everybody? Hello? Jimbo,
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Hello Vicky Moore, Hello Taterbug, Hello John Smith, Hello Miss Lisa.
So I just wanted to return to the Karen Reid
case today and talk about a new filing from the
Commonwealth in aiden Turtleboy Carney's witness harassment intimidation case, and
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it says so much about how Karen Reid got away
with murder, aside from all the usual innocence fraud tactics
that they use minimize the really strong evidence in the
case and maximize the minutia, so make the minutia hugely
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important and make the really strong evidence, just ghost it,
make the cops into villains, and make Karen Read into
an innocent woman, right she's the victim, and then ghost
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the victim altogether. Those are just some of the tactics
innocence for our tactics. But today I'm going to be
talking about Aiden Carney's tactics, specifically in the way that
he used discovery, because of course he's asking in his
filing for all the things that the government withheld from
the public, and Cosgrove, Attorney Cosgrove, who wrote this violin
(03:01):
or signed his name to it, really calls out the
tactics of free Karen Reid to abuse discovery as a
way to find something something that someone wants to hide
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and embarrass them with it, or to make the or
to make witnesses or especially you know, there's a reason,
especially in terms of Karen Reid. There's a reason why
Jen McCabe was targeted so much, because of course she
was the strongest witness against Karen Reid. So they go
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into their phone records, finding their phone records, and of
course trying to shut them up because if they go
public with everything they know, which is why I was
constantly saying to the victim's family and the witnesses to talk.
Karen Reid's gonna talk. This was a case that had
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no opposite I mean, aside from me and innocent fraud Watch.
Even people were saying Karen Reid was guilty. Was like, m,
I think it's an accident. Oh, she was so drunk,
she didn't know what she was doing. I disagree. No
one in the bar that night or the next morning
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said she looked so drunk, even police who are trained
to look for drunkenness. I think that alcohol doesn't touch
the sides.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
With Karen Reid.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And I think she's a very calculated, manipulative, dangerous, psychopathic woman, murderer,
if you want my opinion. I think that's been said
for the woman who was never said, never came forward
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and said, don't harass witnesses in my case, to the
woman who was smirking during autopsy pictures of the boyfriend's
body that she was supposed to have cared for. She
said she didn't love him, but cared for. You would
think she was with him for two years. So we
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are going to talk about all of that today, and
so let me get to just get to this filing.
Someone was nice enough to put it up on x
and I'm going to just read it from there because
that's just the easiest way for me to read it.
Kind of an amazing So if you don't know who
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Aiden Turtleboy Carney is, he's the blogger that had a
symbiotic relationship with Karen Reid, meaning I publicly advocate for
you through my blog and I get the click's views
and I get the discovery first. I get all access
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to all sorts of information first, and I increase my
power and my wealth through it, and Karen Reid's power
continues to increase. She's going from strength to strength. Ditto
Aidan Turtle Boy Karney. I do not see him doing
any time for these witness harassment.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Cases.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So the defendant Aidan Carney, So this is the defendant.
The documents that the defendant wishes to exploit for public
view are subject to a protective order and are not impounded.
So this is Commonwealth's opposition to Aidan Carney's motion to
relief case documents from impoundment. So for those in the back,
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I'm just going to read the first sentence again. The
documents that the defendant wishes to exploit for public view,
are subject to a protective.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Order and are not impounded.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
The defendant, Aiden Carney, has repeated that several relevant and
material documents held impounded from the defendant and or public
view in the instant matters be released emphasis applied. Of course,
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that is not at all what the defendant moves for,
as he makes clear that the very next sentence, wherein
he quote moves that the Commonwealth be required to satisfy
its heavy burden of secrecy as to each and every
doc it seeks to hide from public view. So language
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is important, and that's the end of quote. I mean
language is extremely important. As the defendant correctly states, much
of the discovery supplied over the last six or seven
months has been turned over pursue into it an agreement
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between the parties admittedly entered into without prejudice. The defense
now indicates it wishes to withdraw its agreement. So they're like, look,
you agree to this, now you want to when it's
good for you and good for your pr you want
to withdraw it. It seems to be a little confused, however,
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as to just what it's agreed to, which is not impounded,
as the motion states, but a protective order, as stated
on the face of each such agreement endorsed as an order,
The issuance of protective order in the inherent authority of
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the issue is the inhering inherent authority of the issuing court.
Let me read that again, as stood on the face
of each such agreement endorsed as an order, the quote
issuance of a protective order is the inherent authority of
the issuing court unquote, and protective orders this quote for quote.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Protective orders serve to.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Share shield litigants and third parties from unwanted disclosure and
as a practical matter, to facilitate the discovery necessary for
a trial. Okay, so they cite case law here, I'm
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gonna just skip through that. The document in questions are
not quote unquote judicial documents filed with the court, but
discovery provided by the defense. Under mass r Crimp fourteen,
the commonwealth is required to provide the defendant with discovery.
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We remember Rule fourteen violations from the Karen Reid case.
That was Karen Reid's defense tactic to ambush the Commonwealth
and not comply with her discovery fourteen obligations, so that
anything that their witnesses said.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Would be a surprise to.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The Commonwealth, and they actually got in trouble for lying
to the court about their relationship with their witnesses and
their ability to who hand over discovery in the Karen
Reid cases or Karen Reid's lawyers. Okay, back to the
Aiden Carni case. The Commonwealth is required to provide the
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defendant with a discovery that is relevant a term of
wide scope, whether that discovery is credible, material, or admissible
in court. This includes material which may well be excluded
at trial as prejudicial. It is not surprising that the
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defendant prefers to characterize the order in question as impoundment
orders when First Amendment where First Amendment concerns, though not
unlimited in the scope, are at their zenith. For only
in the most extreme situation, if at all, may a
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state court constitutional forbid a newspaper or anyone to report
or comment on happenings which have been held in open court,
And similar rule would apply to court files otherwise unrestricted.
So they're saying, like, look, we have First Amendment rule
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in this country. It would be very rare for a
court to say you can't report on something. But what
they want to do is make all these documents public
and use it as a tool to manipulate our criminal
justice system to their ends. Consideration, an emphasis differs for
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discovery documents subject to a protective order as to discovery materials.
So a litigance has no First Amendment rights to access
to information made of available only for the purposes of
trying his suit. The right to speak and publish docs
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that not carry with it its unrestricted right to gather information.
And that's what they want because information is power. So
the more information they have on people, they also they
also if they hasn't done it already, he wants to
profile the witnesses in this case, which he has done
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so well, see their strengths and weaknesses, like the psychopath
that Aidan Carney is. Karen Reid too does the same thing.
I don't know if you remember her conversation with Brian
Higgins where she's saying, I can sum people up in
what it was at two minutes, five minutes, ten minutes,
something like that very quickly. Okay, So then they go
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into again case law in general, Well, the standard for
protective orders is set for it in Mass Criminal RP.
Twenty six, which is analogy to the federal rule provides
in person in part that okay, let me just skip
past this secrecy is fine at the discovery stage, before
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the material enters the judicial record. The trial court has
broad discretion to decide what a protective order, when a
protective order is appropriate. So that's just me reading some
highlights from that paragraph. Ample good cause exists to maintain
the existing protective order. The defendant has a well self
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documented meaning.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Look, he documented.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
His history of attempting to taint the jury pool to
obtain the results he desires. Hold, then, let me just
take a break and rest my voice for just a
hot minute. Everybody doing just checking in with them, just
checking in with you all. Are you still with me?
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Are you still with me? They're gonna make uh okay,
doing great? Thank you, Taylor, Tayter's still with me. One
persons still with me? At least, I don't know about
the rest of you. Okay, okay, thank you, Debbie, Debbie
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Ghive's still with me.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
The defendant has a well documented history of attempting to
take the jury pool to obtain the results he desires.
In the Karen Reid case, the defendant was candid as
to the goal of his Internet presentations and other activities.
As previously noted in eight thirty twenty three Jury Influences,
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Carney is shown speaking to his audience with a bullhorn quote,
we need to continue to spread the word. Every single
person in Norfolk County needs to know the truth about
Karen Reid and John O'Keefe, meaning they need to know
the propaganda so that we can get a jury. And
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I've heard some interesting things behind the scenes about jurors
looking to get rich. I mean, you don't get rich
when you convict Karen Reid. He served on a jury,
but you sure do get you sure do get offers
when you quit her of the most serious charges, ignoring
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most of the evidence. Hold on one second, Okay, I'm
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just getting something to drink.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I'm having a hard time with my voice.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You can't hear, but I will soldier on because that's
the kind of.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Person I am.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Carnie is okay, So we need to continue to spread
the word. Every single person in Norfolk County needs to
know the truth aka the propaganda about Karen Reid and
John O'Keefe. We are trying to affect the jury pool. Yeah,
that is exactly what we are trying to do. It's
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like we're trying to take the jury pool.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
What of it.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
In pursuit of that goal? For Carney, extremism in support
of Karen Reid was no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of attacking witnesses, police, prosecutors, the judge, the jurors, the
grand jurors, and even the late victims family, the o'keefes,
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who refused to bow down to Carney's preferred narrative was
virtue was no virtue. So showing moderation was no virtue
in attacking the witnesses family, attacking everyone he could, and
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what that did was it made everybody shut up, and
it also changed their narrative. So when you're saying, like,
you know, even people who knew she murdered him and
were suffering and grieving the loss of John O'Keefe were
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basically supporting Karen Reid in their narrative, in their own
in their own talking points. If Karen Reid has a
pet word to describe what he attempts to do to
anyone who stands in the way of his objectives, it
is to quote destroy again the Commonwealth previously noted in
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the aptly titled Episode six six hundred and sixteen, trying
to destroy Colin's life so Colin. Albert Carney begins to
begins by musing about whether Colin's aunt, Jill Daniels, whose
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photograph he displays, has a crush on him, a proposition
he modestly thought at first to be quote ridiculous. After
asking his viewers to weigh in on this important topic,
I love the sarcasm in this filing, pines that it's
quote wild because I'm trying to put her like golden
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nephew in jail and like kind of like destroy their life.
But also but she also likes me, Like what two comments.
Daniels is not without is not a witness in the
read case, but a relative of a witness. Carney considers
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her fair game for humiliation. Second, Carney explicitly states the
great the goal of his behavior with respect to Colin
is to destroy his life, and Karen Reid was fully
on board.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
If you think that this wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Tactic that was fully rubber stamped by Karen Reid's defense team,
you may have just been born yesterday. There are communications,
many communications between Karen Reid's lawyers David Ynetti and Alan
Jackson and Aidan Carney, and Karen Reid admitted she talked
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to Aidan Carney every day. Notice they never pit publicly
came out and said, don't harass witnesses.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
If you want to work Karen Reid, you can.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
If they didn't think it was a useful tactic for them,
they would have called off the dogs. They would have said,
don't harass witnesses, do anything. But I mean, speaking of
but does anybody remember this? Hold on one second, They
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just hopped to my channel so that publicly they were
saying that it didn't look good for them to be
shake hands at hearings.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
So there's a hold on one second.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Let me just see if I can turn off this sound.
So here is David Ynetti patting tirtle boys, but going
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into court so slyly saying you know, hey, we can't
publicly it's like the ugly girlfriend. We can't right, so
we can't publicly show our unity. And he was saying
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publicly that he didn't talk to Karen Reid, and he
was maintaining his journalistic loll integrity by not colluding with
her and getting to know her. But when he was
talking to her every day and her lawyers. If Carney
has a pet word to describe, okay, okay, moving forward,
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His destroy the opposition approach was on full display when
Carney learned that someone had filed a bar complaint against
one of Karen Reid's lawyers, Alan Jackson. To a journalist,
as Carney sometimes styles himself, this might be news to report.
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Another type of journalists, such as a opinion columnist, might
express a view as to whether the BBO complaint like
bar complaint, was a good thing or a bad thing
journalists quote unquote. Carney, however, immediately stepped into his role
as the enforcement arms of the Karen Reid team. And
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they there's a footnote here to the actual video, and
he says, if you know where, I'll just say Deborah lives.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
They have her last name.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But whatever or whatever we need to like, we need
to find it out and we need to destroy her,
ruin her, make it impossible for her ever to work again.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Again.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't make the rule, And a lot of people
are like, no, we shouldn't do that. No, no, no,
m efor my word's not his. You fight fire with fire.
I don't pick the battlefield. If they pick this. If
they that's how they want to do this. Don't throw
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mud if you don't want to get f and dirty.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So if you know, if anybody wants to find anything
out about this woman, and that doesn't just include her,
that includes family, like the record, like the record. No,
if you do something like this, We're not just going
to stop at going after you. We're going to find
out where you Efen husband works, where your fen kids work, whatever.
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We're going to make life Fen difficult for you if
you want to do this, if you want to go
real world. And I see Patricia saying no, let me
explain to the patricians of the world. You are on
the wrong station. This is not the station where we act.
We are where we're the bigger person.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
No, God Aiden Carney talks to like he still the
teacher talks to his audience like their kindergarteners.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
No, this is the place where you try to f
with somebody's career like that, we f with your career. Okay,
we give you you bad Google reviews.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
We give you bad Google reviews.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
E f give give you a problem or no, no, no,
we don't do it at all, or don't do it
at all, Like, that's what I would suggest.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I think none of us should do it.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So here he is gas lighting everyone and saying, so, yeah,
I told everyone not to do it.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
These criminals always covering themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
But if they're going to fight fire that way, and
you want to be like, oh, we should.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Just do that, that's bad. Oh oh you're at.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
The wrong You're on the wrong channel. That's not a
channel where we just get to be the bigger person.
That's not what we f and do. Here, we fight
fire with fire.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
It goes on.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
If you want to f with people's lives like that,
we're going to f with yours, period, period, period. You
want to enter the arena, now you're in the f
an arena. You want to be in the game, Now
you're in the game. Anyway, that's how it works. Episodes
eighty five Karen Reid case mc Albert agitators protected by
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Denham Police.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Peto simps for Proctor.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
The destroy rant against Cora is all the more remarkable
given that Carney already knew that she was a California resident.
So everyone has a so aiden Carney makes a big
deal about his First Amendment right to speak, but anyone
else with an opinion that he doesn't like, He's going
to go after them and destroy them. Pretty much the
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most Unamerican thing that you can do Carney herself, but
to give notice to potential dissenters from the Turnobyl line
that they do could be destroyed. Carney has continued his
modus operendi in the Karen Reid case in reporting on
his own case once again. He publicizes his upcoming court
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appearances and encourages his viewers to attend court proceedings. Once again.
The exterior of the courthouse is lined with picketers hearing
bearing signs once again. Many of them are in shirts,
some commercially sold by Carney, bearing slogans designed to elicit
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public support. Journalism is not a crime, but apparently disagreeing
with turtle Boy as a crime publicly as Karen Reid's
supporters adopted pink as their signature color, so now Carney
is polling his viewers as to an appropriate Turtle Boy color.
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Oh God, my eye roll could not be bigger, by
the way, the channel colors of the Ropertic Last Tear
Crime Report will always be red and black, maybe a
little white here and there. He continues to harass witnesses
and show up as their residents and show up at
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their residence.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Over the July.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Fourth weekend, he and his current girlfriend drove to the
home of witness Brian Higgins, who noticed him in the
car and moved to intercept him, leading Carne to flee.
So Carney has posted his own video account. Okay, so
here's a Carney's.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
A little footnote.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Carney's propensity for attacking witnesses through family members has previously
been well documented in filings by the Commonwealth. For example,
Carney's showing up at sports events where a witness's daughters
are playing, mocking her husband as a now p word
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for standing there and doing nothing, while Carney disrespected his
wife in public, harassing a police officer's wife and posting
pictures of another officer's young children on his website of
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the event on law. Okay, so we're going back to Higgins.
So Aiden posted his own video and recollection or his
own version of what happened at this event, where he
was at Haiggin's house with his girlfriend, Meredith O'Neill is.
Aiden Carney still married by the way, casting Higgins as
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a fool and proclaiming his own innocent intentions. As with
the Karen Reid case, documents filed in court are immediately
publicized and spun by Carney. Court appearances are often hyped
by promises of bombshell revelations. Consider recent defense filings in
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the case and see Turtle Boy Daily News Can't and
Cover Up Part five oh eight sworn affi David alleges
Commonwealth agent Kate Peter was paid fifteen hundred monthly bribed
with couch by Jennifer McKay to spread disinformation about Karen
Reid while working directly with Hank Brennan and Michael Morrissey.
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Carney has a well documented history of abusing discovery materials
to harass witnesses. Again, as previously noted, when the Commonwealth
provided Defense Council inadvertently and over generously with a complete
download of one witness's cell phone, Council immediately provided a
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copy to Carney, who, in the face of an agreed
upon subsequent court order that he would use only material
relevant to his case, immediately proceed to violate it. See
Generally Paper fifty two Commonwealth's motion for protective Order in
return of certain confidential information extracted from victim's cell phone.
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The subsequent commonwealths motion to vacate this court order of
September twenty seven, twenty twenty four, in light of its
manifest and effectiveness, and to adopt order proposed herein impounded
and exhibits presented to open Court and is so import
of impounded. Carney continues to use his lie's discovery to
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publicly attack witnesses in this case, delving into alleged character
flaws and alleged misconduct that has no relevance to the
charges before the court, which, in addition to their emotional
toll on the victims, can only serve to poison the
jury pool. I mean, if you look at some of
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the witnesses in Karen read CA's they're still being harassed
despite Judge and their children are being harassed. Despite Judge
Krupp's order, Carney has continued to use material he acquired
through discovery to publicly harassed witnesses. The Commonwealth directs the
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court's attention to the previously filed letter of March twenty six,
twenty twenty five, by one such witness, filed pro se
with leave of the Court addressed to Judge Doolan who
Loves Loves Aidan Carney, which literally quotes from mister Carney's
online presentation, for which he provides specific citation and sketches
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in vivid details the effect of such verbal assaults upon her. Okay,
so here are the footnotes. The video of Hagen's running
after Carney's car and falling down appear to be stayed
as alert viewers should notice, but the more credulous may not.
Although Carney claims to not remember to whom he gave
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copies of Lindsay Katani's cell phone extraction, it is clear
that one such person is Jason Browles, an acolyte of
Carne's who has posted under various names, including Haley Wallbrecht
and not Haley Waalbrecht Wallbreck post material calculated to humiliate
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Katani and urge her to recant or face the consequences,
including indictment and further attack posts. In one such post,
he states, we'll just take the incriminating information from her
phone that we all believe shows that her and her
friends entered into a criminal enterprise.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
What do you call? Free Karen read?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
With some assistance from government officials, Some free Karen readers
were saying, I you know online that Karen Reid was
getting cash delivered to her car every day at court.
I mean just the money of free Karen Reid has
never been accounted for. I think she's made so much
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blood money from this. I have to take a break
and the rest of my boys I will be Does
Turtle Boy have a hearing coming up for this? Yes, Tuesday,
it's ongoing that virgins. I'm not exactly sure the day,
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but he wants to all this tough.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
He wants all the.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Discovery now that they agreed would be kept private. He
went it all out so he can use it and
spend it for his own aids in the same way
he spent spun for Karen Reid. Karen read is now
the blueprint of how he's going to get away with
witness harassment, and I think it might work. I'm not
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convinced he's gonna do any time, but we'll say, all right, let.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Me see.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
It'll be just take a quick break and I'll be
right back. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
My check.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Roberta strides through the static case True Crime Got Them
Where the shadows play their place forwards to fold when
a spotlight themes, stack focus, queen busting propaganda schemes, Glass, Shadow,
lies that goes through the streets, standing for victims, giving voice,
that beats, and hyc post troops sharpest Night referdas and
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She's the anti fried Light, partast warrior, dissecting Satan's defense,
twisted innocence, claims, breaking pretense, Gotham's truth seeker cuts clean
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with the blade facts in the forefront, No justice gets swayed.
Cold facts drip heavy, real talk, gun furls, cracking cases
open like oysters with pearls, innocense, gimmicks, crumble the dust
in the wind for victims, her creed justice till the end,
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headphones blazing, she drops heavy artillery. Now it just twisted meat,
blunt objects, civility, roberta God receipts that unraveled, deploy exposing
the lines these frauds that just deployed Glass, his lines
that goes through the streets, standing for victims, given voice,
stand beats in y postrup shops Night. He exposed that
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she's the anti fraud Light.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Oh okay, we are back. I can send you the
link to this link if you want put it in
the hold one second. I can put it in the
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chat for you guys, so if you want to read along.
I just didn't find a Google document version of it.
But we're almost all the way through it. We're through
the important parts I thought. I mean, it just shows
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that he's gotten a real education and made a blueprint
and how to do this. And I think it will
be done like this, this kind of witness harassment, pre
trial innocence fraud campaign will be done like this with.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Different murderers. I mean, did you see that the honor
killing case?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
They got a not guilty verdict, so they're not just
So what this innocence fraud movement does is it it
brainwashes a whole generation of future jurors into thinking they
don't want to convict anybody who's guilty. This is why
I thought it was so great that Coburger bled out.
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I mean, he could have gotten off. I mean that's
the way the YouTubers and true crime people were going
that he was wrongfully accused, and they go, no, no, no,
it's different. Coburger admitted to what he did. This is
what Aiden Carney says. Not initially, not initially, he didn't
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he was putting in filings about alternative suspects, etc.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Etc.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
But the judge totally forbid a third party culprit and
didn't let Coburger's defense team develop it the way CANNONI did.
I mean CONNONI was like another wing of the Caarentry
defense team. Okay, so let me move forward. Unrestricted use
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of discovery materials would facilitate Carney's continuing attack on victims
and witnesses. It has. It has long been the case
that relevant statements of witnesses are to be provided by
the Commonwealth and Discovery. The widespread use of electronic communications
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has made it significantly easier for witnesses to communicate with
prosecutors during the pendency of their cases. Okay, so mass
criminal code blah blah blah requires automatic discovery of the
written and recorded statements of a person who has testified
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before a grand jury, and the written or recorded statements
of persons the prosecutor may call as witnesses. Emails and
texts fall under this definition, unless you're going to be
like Karen Reid's legal team and communicate with their witnesses
via encrypted app with the communications on auto delete, so
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then they just go in and testify. They can't hand
them over because they're all gone. The lawyer didn't do
his due diligence. Karen Reid's lawyers didn't do their due
diligence by keeping those communications, and and now the state
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has no access to them, so they can talk in
secret and plan the secret and ambush the Commonwealth. Emails
and texts fall under this definition. Of course, irrelevant statements
need not be provided, but relevance is quite broadly construed.
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It includes, for example, any information reflecting bias or prejudice
against the defendant. In the present case, the defendant has
created a cycle generating discoverable comments. He mocks, smears, or
otherwise attacks witnesses and their family members online. His actions
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come to the attention of the witnesses, who then complain
to the District Attorney's office and ask if something can
be done to ameliorate this situation. Thus, statements, while often
saying nothing about the facts and the indictments before the court,
arguably inform the Commonwealth of subsequent bad acts of Carney's
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and often express bias or prejudice against the defendant, and
therefore are discoverable. Bias against Carney is the least difficult
thing the defense has to prove why would the witnesses
not loathe Carne given his treatment of them, and why
would they not freely admit to doing so? Ironically, okay, ironically,
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the credibility of the witnesses and their potential bias does
not loom large as a factor in most of the
indictments before this court. The Commonwealth's evidence is largely based
on Carney's own statements and actions, lovingly recorded and broadcast
by him for all the world to see. These videos
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speak for themselves. There can be no serious dispute as
to his actions, whether they are as he claims mere
First Amendment free speech, or whether, whatever their speech component,
they cross over the line to intimidation is the issue
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to be tried by the jury. As the witnesses communications
with the District Attorney's office may doubtless many okay, hold
on as the witness's communication with the District Attorney's office,
many doubtless written in the mistaken belief that they would
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not be turned over to the defense, come to Carney's attention.
They provide him with a roadmap as to which of
his attacks have caused the most pain, and they are
gristed further attacks for this reason if no other, the
protective order should stand. So he's saying very interesting here,
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Cosgrof is saying, Look, Carney profiles people just the way
Karen Reid does, and he finds out their weakness in
their strengths. If he hasn't already profile, I think he's
already has them pretty well summed up, and he knows
what's going to get it under their skin, and what's
going to cause maximum damn it and what's going to
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make them strike out and act in a way that
makes him look good and they look bad, them look bad.
So it's very much. I mean, this is why they
say with psychopaths you have to just go.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
You have to cut them off completely. You can't.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
It's a fool's game to try to win with them.
Various emails and other communications between witnesses and the case
and families mentioned that the District Attorney's office were turned
over subject to protective orders in the case. These documents
are readily identifiable by bait stamps, because these witnesses were,
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for the most part, alleged victims. In the present case,
the same documents were provided here. Defense counsel asserted in
open court that those orders became inoperative essentially automatically upon
the conclusion of the Reed trial. The defense cites no
case law for this proposition. The Commonwealth view is the contrary.
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So here's where they talk about appending investigation. Now, is
this something like Tony Soprano says, they always say it's
an ongoing investigation to make it sound good, or is
there a federal ongoing investigation or some other kind of
investigation into Aiden Garney and perhaps Karen Reid witness harassment.
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Anything that doesn't include her lawyers, to me is kind
of a waste of time.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
If i'd say a waste of time, let me go back,
I would say so much of this was done with
Karen Reid's like as a strategy for her to get
away with her murder. So yeah, I think it's really
important that these lawyers who have the most powered, are
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the most dangerous be called out legally. So it would
not be complete without that would be a better way
to put it. Not be complete without the inclusion of
Karen Reid's lawyers. Routinely cited in the read protective order
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is a representedation by the prosecutors that certain materials be
provided as discovering the case and maybe evidence and unrelated
criminal case cases. This language has been duplicated in the
Carni protective Orders. Undersigned counsel as a special prosecutor, unlike
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all but one of the prosecutors assigned to the read case,
can claim familiarity with other cases being prosecuted by the
Norfolk District Attorney's Office. However, he can attest that some
of the discovery turned over bears on an ongoing investigation
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in which he is involved. That he was saying Aiden
Carney is the subject of an ongoing investigation. Council is prepared,
if necessary, to make an EXPARTI showing to this court
to verify the existence of this investigation. So does this
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have to do with Jessica Leslie, the grand juror who
got punished or will anything come of this ongoing investigation?
It would be extremely unpopular for the district attorneys for
the Attorney General's Office to go after Aiden Carney.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
Free.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Karen Reid has become very popular in Massachusetts, so we'll see,
I'm gonna leave it there. Also, Karen Reid is asking
for her phone back in her murder vehicle back, but
she also wants documents in the Sandra Birchmore case. Let's
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take a look at this reporting by Karen Reid by
murderer supporter Ted Daniel, by innocent fraudster Ted Daniel.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
A listen.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Civil lawyers investigator has learned her team has fired off subpoenas.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
So Karen Reid has gone from strength to strength. While
the witnesses the Karen Reid case are complaining about being harassed,
she is preparing for her civil trial, which is what
this side should be doing, including Kerrie Roberts, Jennifer McCabe,
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John o'keef's niece family and making sure their testimony is
as strong as possible.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Or legal demands to several government agencies, including the mass
State Police and the Norfolk County District Attorney's office. The
subpoenas seek a mountain of materials from Reed's criminal case,
including records related to prosecution, witnesses, fired State Trooper Michael Proctor,
and the federal investigation of law enforcement. A source tells
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me Reed's team is also seeking any communication the DA's
office may have had with the FEDS about the Sandra
Birchmore case. Birchmore's death was initially ruled a suicide, but
a subsequent federal investigation determined she had been murdered.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
And then they had to They redid the autopsy in
that case after a lot of public pressure. So we
still haven't seen all the evidence in that case.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
The Colonel case is over, she still faces a wrongful
death lawsuit filed by the family of John O'Keefe.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
I will let you know.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
If the DA's office provides me with comment.
Speaker 5 (52:31):
So that is it, Daniel. He's going to keep us abreast.
She wants all of it.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
It's very similar to Aiden Carti. She wants every you know,
everything she can get her hands on, to make the
people that arrested her have the most knowledge of her
guilt into villains, make them look bad and make herself
look good.
Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yeah that's what I was just showing, VICKI.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, yeah, so that's what they're looking for. I agree
with you. So she wants she wants to twist everything
and tie her case to a case that as being
seen publicly as a case of the corruption or or
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some kind kind of real evilness in the police department
in Massachusetts. So she wants to connect her case with
that where they found no corruption. Defense have looked into it.
Karen Reid's case found no corruption, no conspiracy. They had
an independent auditor look at the case, found no corruption,
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no conspiracy. But so what is she going to do.
She's going to attach her case to a case that's
largely seen that way. We still haven't seen the facts
in the Sander Birchmore case that has been played out
in the court of public opinion too. So that is
what I have for today. I just wanted to do
a quickie because I thought that that filing. It's a
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little bit longer than what I read, but I thought
I read the most pertinent parts.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Are.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I thought it was a fascinating filing. I mean, it
just calls out exactly how Aiden Karney works, use witnesses communications,
get all the discovery to profile them, to learn how
to harass them, to learn how to illicit behavior that's
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going to make them look bad and him look good,
to hone in on their weaknesses, to exploit their weaknesses,
to exploit I mean, we all have all our car
we all have weaknesses, and what Aidan Karney does is
exaggerate them. While you know, never critical of Karen Reid
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or himself. They're perfect but everyone else in the case
is you know, anybody with real knowledge of his guilt,
Karen Read's guilt, his guilt as far as witness harassment
or sees it as a witness arrassment.
Speaker 5 (55:19):
It's going to be public.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
And I mean number one, where is the you know
is the direct recipient of this kind of harassment. Now,
I don't think he's going to be convicted of this now.
The judge Dulan seems to be absolutely in love with
his defense team, and I don't know if he's going
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to I don't know how he's going to try all
these cases. If he's going to do it like the
one before where he got a not guilty verdict. He's
got really good lawyer, he's got decent lawyers, I mean
fraudster lawyers. Doesn't it say innocence fraudster lawyers who know
how to work the system.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
So I don't think they're really.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Good lawyers, good lawyers lawyer in court, but they're certainly
lawyer in the court of public opinion and doing everything
they can to get them out so to get them
off on these cases.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
I'm not convinced that there's going to be any charges
coming from the fence.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
But we'll see. I may be wrong, I may be right.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
We'll see. So far, I've called this right all the way. Unfortunately,
I said Karen Reid would fearing she would get off,
and she did. I just know how powerful these innocent
fraud campaigns are. Okay, please hit the thumbs up on
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your way out. Guys, support the channel. Linksering the description
of this episode, buy me a coffee, Venmo, Patreon, all
great ways to support the channel. I will be back
tomorrow at six pm. You started to have a great night, everybody.
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
I hit my boyfriend with my car. It wasn't an accident.
But with Lion lawyers I'll go far. Lion lawyers and
witness harassment holl avoid prison.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
It was soe.
Speaker 5 (57:40):
I pushed the pan on.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Now it hard now the legal system of my clown
in since for our campaigns gave my skin making money.
(58:05):
Truth is my second victim.
Speaker 4 (58:09):
Carry carry ginger like John you were, Marma. My innocence
from a campaign is my biggest it. I hit my
(58:47):
boyfriend with my coat.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
It wasn't a.
Speaker 4 (58:57):
Exciting both Lion lawyers all go for Lion lawyers and
witness harassment I'll avoid prison.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
It was snowing.
Speaker 5 (59:14):
I pushed the pedal down, hit him hard.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
Now the legal system of my clown.
Speaker 4 (59:25):
Insense fraud campaign, save my skin.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Making money truth is my second victim.
Speaker 4 (59:37):
Carry carrying, chinging like John your word, my mother. My
innocence for a campaign is my thig?
Speaker 2 (59:48):
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