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June 24, 2025 16 mins

Tired of feeling gross every time you try to “sell” your services? You’re not alone—and you don’t have to sell that way anymore.


In this episode of Rocky Mountain Marketing, I sit down with Aleasha Bahr, sales expert, author of The Black Sheep Sales Method, and someone who has completely transformed my approach to selling. We caught up live at Social Media Week Lima to talk about a different way to close more clients—without scripts, pressure, or pretending to be someone you're not.




In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • Why traditional sales scripts are outdated and ineffective
  • How to identify and attract the right clients (not just any clients)
  • The secret to improving your close rate by doing less, not more
  • Why being a better listener is the ultimate sales superpower
  • How Aleasha’s “Black Sheep Sales Method” helps entrepreneurs sell with integrity


If sales has ever felt icky, awkward, or off-brand for you, this episode is the permission slip you didn’t know you needed.


Timestamps:

00:00 – The truth about why most sales training feels gross

01:40 – How Aleasha’s approach changed my business

04:20 – What “fit-based selling” really looks like

07:45 – Why curiosity and listening close more deals

11:05 – The power of disqualifying the wrong leads

15:50 – Why your sales framework should match your business goals

19:30 – What to say when someone gives you a weird sales objection

24:00 – Can AI ever replace human sales conversations?

30:00 – Why your voice still matters—even in the age of automation


Grab Aleasha’s book: Black Sheep Sales: How to Win More Sales Without Acting Like a Douchebag - https://blacksheepsalesbook.com/


Visit Aleasha Bahr online:

Website: https://aleashabahr.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aleashabahr/



Learn more about Katie and Next Step Social Communications:

Speaking: https://katiebrinkley.com/

Website: https://yournextstep.agency/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiebrinkley

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/@rockymountainmarketing

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkatiebrinkley/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/socialprofitlab


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