September 20, 2023 • 31 mins
Chris and Maggie continue their look at Animal Planet's found footage horror anthology series that often misses but sometimes lands its cryptids subject matter: Lost Tapes. This episode focuses on yet another big boy of the cryptid world: the Wendigo.
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We're there are creatures science refuses torecognize. If our eyes see it,
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if our cameras capture it, doesit exist? Do you believe? Hello
everyone, and welcome to you getanother episode of scary Stories we tell.
I am your host, Christash,and I'm joined essentially at this point by
my co host on these lost aagechronicles, your friend and mine, an
artist, a man among men,a bro among bros, maggidiat gosh shucks,
hey gang, oh shucks? Thatwhat you do with corn? Yeah?
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Does it have the juice? Itdoes? It's cold. I'm so
glad so I got rid of allmy socials, but thank god I have
friends that it's still spend. Justbe a little bit on the custom corn
Kids cameos right now going for onehundred and forty five dollars over at cameo
dot com if you're interested. Probablyby the time this episode airs, corn
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Kid will be old News x ten. Corn Kid will be old news next
week. Right. Maybe I don'tknow, as long as that poor kid
actually gets to exist this childhood andguts to enjoy that Cameo star jore that
Colt or however he says it,Colin Yeah cold on the juice. But
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on this episode of the Culture ofthe Culture Cast. Yeah all this episode
Daddy, on this episode of ScaryStories, we tell we are talking about
the seventh episode of the third seasonof Lost Tapes. That episode is titled
When Togo Colon American cannibal When togo Colon sounds terrible of itself. Well,
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if you get if you might meeta Whendigo, you may end up
in its colon. Yeah, verymuch so. Yeah. So this episode
aired October nineteen twenty ten, abouttwelve years ago, and it is all
about the when Togo, When Togobeing the boy. It's it's kind of
like a skin walker in a lotof ways. It is a mythical Native
American indigenous people creature that invokes feelingsof greed and hunger and it cannibalizes human
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Yep, the classic. You know, it's kind of like a skin walker.
It has to do you are cursedas a skin walker because you're practicing
black magic as a whenigo you arecan you can still be human? It's
yeah, it's kind of strange.It's very much a you pick the wrong
place, the wrong time type ofscenario. Yeah, you know, the
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Whendigo in this story is kind ofan interesting interpretation. Shit, so that's
not a way I'm plinting. Yeah, right, because in this, in
this it's in this it's a person, and in story it's a creature like
it is a it is a creatureor a spirit or a spirit that possesses
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a person. So I guess thereit could be either. I think that's
kind of open. Well, theinterpretation normally is one or the other.
And according to legends, when awindigo can be created when a human eats
someone else, you know, cannibalizestheir body, and you know, even
if they're having to do it forreasons to survive, it doesn't matter,
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you know that, you know,it could possess someone who was who's very
greedy and gluttonous. But the storiesthat I've heard about whendigoes are you know,
it's someone who is eating another personby choice or by situation. Right
in this story kind of does thatcorrect? I'm you know, I'm a
little impressed, but yeah, usingusing a cannibalism as a vehicle for the
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identity theft aspect of those creatures.But it's pretty neat. It's a great
concept, and I don't know,and all around very popular myth and urban
legend. It definitely hey, itdoes fall under cryptid. I'm proud of
them for that. I truly am. And honestly, this is like one
of the episodes that a lot ofpeople remember most I totally know why.
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Yeah, well he hasn't. It'sit's interesting. It is definitely different.
It's different than the episodes we've gottenkind of like this one up until this
point. You know, we'd likemore authentic to what the OG seasons were,
which is right nice. Yeah,you know, I was gonna say
that that Skinwalker episode, I rememberneither one of us liking it very much,
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but it definitely lived within the worldof like where you would expect Skinwalkers
to be, expectations for skin Walkersif they were going to be in this
kind of show what have you?Yeah, I mean this, I would
agree this episode kind of really trafficksin what my expectations are for this kind
of episode about when it goes andyeah, you know, it's a pretty
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generic setup. Some college kids goout into the woods in the Appalachians.
They get lost. One of themeats something and becomes a when to go
and then starts eating the rest ofthem. And then two people three people
through a search party shows up lookingfor them. So there's two pieces of
footage. There's the footage from theinitial people who get lost, and then
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there's the footage from the people whocome to save them. Spoilers. Everybody
dies, Yeah, true, trueto form for the third season is indeed
everybody to think. I was aboutto say, at this point, the
expectation should be, you see somebodyin this show, They're gonna die.
Yeah, don't get too attached.I mean, there's nothing to get attached
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to. These are very much broadlypainted stereotypes. Not much of it,
not much of a character in theshow doesn't need that truth. Yeah,
especially for how the writing goes withsome of these. But I will say,
like this one, it was verytropy, it was very predictable.
But what I will say is theyleaned into it in all the right ways
that you should considering, Like theystill stuck to their guns on the cold
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open quote unquote by having the firstchunk of footage, like you were saying,
is having like the og squad andwhat happened there, and then it
picks up with like the seemed likepark Ranger was like the not Enigma Corporation.
No, I think they fucking forgotabout Enigma Corporation. We're in the
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last four episodes and we've only,like in season three, we only had
like what three Enigma Corp episodes sofar, right, Yeah, I think
so good. Yeah, So Iguess that's just kind of like, ah,
well we forgot who cares they were? Yeah, they were so incompetent
that every single one of them diedbecause well, and we will see them
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again in the next episode at least. But oh but again, like every
episode so far this season, Ifeel like, you, with the way
that they've been set up, youcould have made a case to just have
them in every episode. Yeah,you could have weaseled it. But honestly,
I kind of appreciate episodes like thiswhere it doesn't even like, it
doesn't belabor the point it does theSpooky Woods tropes very competently, right,
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Honestly, it's very serviceable, andit's a nice little exchange where we get
like some creature feature aspects in ittoo at the end, which was very
rewarding. I was not expecting that. So good on them for actually throwing
something up. Well, and thatis the thing about this episode that kind
of makes me and clearly yourself thinkabout it as more of a first season
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episode is it doesn't really do anythingwith the Whend It gooes story. It
really is just like what you're expectingand in doing that kind of generic story.
I mean, the setup for thisepisode is almost identical to the setup
for the Supernatural episode that's like thesecond or third episode of the show that
is about when it goes in thatepisode, it's almost the exact same setup.
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People get lost in the woods.In this story it's you know,
the park rangers whoever looking for him, and Supernatural it's the Winchester brothers.
I don't know how else you tellthe story. I mean, I guess
you could tell like Donner party orsomething to that effect. But this is
like the easiest setup, right well, and it's tried and true. Some
Yeah, I feel like there's nothingto it bad go with. They really
aren't. They're they're almost archival toa point, and wind it goes around
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naturalistic creature. They're not a citybound creature. I mean, you could
do Whend It goes in a citythat could be interesting, but just very
difficult. Yeah, but at thesame yeah, exactly but at the same
time, like this is the kindof thing that exists in the natural world.
It's it's folklore. I mean again, it's an indigenous people. You
know, the people the Algonquins inthis country are where this comes from.
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And those are the Great Lakes regionsof this country. That's Canada and Michigan
and all those areas in that areaof the world. This comes from them.
And you know the Ojibway word windigo, which is again like we're we're
at the point with this show,with this episode where they decided, let's
actually do the thing that we've doneat one point in this show. And
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I don't know why they decided tocome back to it all of a sudden,
because they really strayed so far awayfor so long. Yeah, it
must have been like the a squad, this was their assignment. They're like,
hey, guys, can you justdo the wind to Go episode?
Like we'll put it close to theend of the season, so it feels
like we didn't just fail from thestart. But I mean, the only
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thing that I will say that Iwill complain about just ever so slight,
ever so slightly, because this isa very good episode. I do appreciate
what they did here, and theyeven brought back the animal facts or in
this case, the lower facts.My main complaint is all of those lower
facts are white old men. Itwould have been nice to actually get a
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bit more of like a diverse perspective. But once again, for twenty ten,
what can you do? And I'msure they didn't have like all of
the fun days there, but itcomes from speed dial, so it comes
and it comes, but it comesfrom a indigenous people's tradition, so that
should have been represented. Yeah,and I mean also understand that like that
you know, as part of previouslymentioned was like yeah, and the people
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of that like standpoint probably don't wantto talk about it, which is totally
fair. I just think that itcould have been a bit more diverse on
that front. But hey whatever,Well, but I agree with you.
It is one of those things whereas I sit here and think about it,
that would be something that would belike focused on if you did it
now. It's making is making sureof that because again, like that's where
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these stories come from, and that'swhere the tradition comes from. And especially
when it's like are you well likein this region US space where It's like,
it's not like you have to findsomebody way over the fucking like England
to make commentary about it. Wetranslated from another language like these through indigenous
people, like they probably speak Englishtoo, so right, I think,
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Yeah, I do agree with youthat the talking heads there's not a lot
of variety. They're kind of likethe same people. I mean, look,
I love Lauren Coleman as much asthe next person, but like,
I don't need to see him inevery single episode like the Bigfoot episodes,
yeah, because that's kind of hisbread and butter, but like, yeah,
every single episode, Like I don'tI think they could have. Yeah,
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I think there's just some failings withthis show at this point that I
don't I don't understand them as failingsbecause they feel like easy to avoid pitfalls.
Yeah, it's just one of thosewhere it was like the medium mentality
of the day, and this wasa highly experimental show that I'm sure they
didn't really know how long it wouldgo on or how much facts they could
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actually cram in without it turning intolike a PPS special. Yeah. So
I also understand this choice, Itruly do, because it was probably just
like a couple interviews where they justhad a couple of topics sheets being like
and we're going to talk about theone, right, let me ask you
about this, let me ask youabout this, let me eddy and just
see what they can pull from.So it's a very uh, you know,
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economic choice, but it's just notvery interesting. It's one of those
things where it's like that is likethe one thing that would keep it from
being like an absolute perfect Lost Tapesepisode, in my mind, is just
getting that rounded up just a littlebit more well, And I totally agree,
and you know, I hadn't evenreally thought about that, but I
also at this point kind of feellike that the fact stuff they really don't
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try on their Oh that's why,like when it's apparent, I'm paying attention
to it, because that was likeone of my favorite little campy hooks in
the first season was it's like,oh, and they're throwing animal facts in
as hell? Yes, right,it just died And I don't know why
it did. I mean I couldwe could probably suppose and make make presumptions
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about why, namely the fact thatyou know, the show was probably not
as popular with them that it iswithout them, at least in their minds,
at least with the crowd that they'retrying to get exactly, which I
think is the people that are talkingabout this show now, is it having
scared them? Would be what thenine to fifteen crowd exactly. And the
animal the animal facts do take youout of the moment. So if they
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were trying to scare little kids,it probably don't want some quick facts about
moths and snakes thrown in there.So fair, I gotcha, right,
But at the same time, likethat was part of what made the show
interesting, and that's kind of thatwas kind of part of the charm.
That wasn't kind of part. Itwas part of the charm of the show.
And to lose it, and tolose it and not really replace it
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with anything, I mean, Iguess to replace it with more scares and
quotations like the show is not scary. I mean, I guess, I
mean, I guess, let's putourselves in the mindset of someone who's like
nine to fifteen saying it in twentyten. Yeah, I'm sure it definitely
would have resonated. I think thefirst season probably would have been like really
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eerie to me, especially like thefirst handful of it like in the mid
twenties now, right, Like thoseare people that are in their mid twenties,
so this would have been like thekind of people that we see on
YouTube talking about this show. Bengoexactly. I was. I was twenty
when the show came out, LikeI had missed it for me being scary,
Like I was eighteen to twenty forthe run of the show, Like
that's right, you know, Iwas in graduating high school and going into
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my first and second years of collegelike this, I just didn't have animal
planets. I saw it when Iwas at home, like I saw it
when I was living in my parents'house in oh eight, and then when
I moved to college, like Inever saw it again. So I never
saw the second season to the show. So that should give you an idea
of like even my commitment into theshow then was I wasn't like hunting it
down, so it was passive forsure. Yeah, and again like that,
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I think that kind of goes tomy feelings about the show almost overall,
is like the show in and ofitself has become passive. Yeah,
they definitely, Yeah, they kindof accepted the fact that they weren't being
taken seriously that they were just kindof scaring kids, and so they just
kind of leaned on that one asopposed to like really stick and buy their
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guns and making something really really intense. Yeah. I mean at one point,
at one point it was a hauntedexhibit and now it's just like a
haunted house like ride, like acounty fair. Yes, but at the
same time, this episode is thatdone rather well. I mean you kind
of hit all the notes. Youhave the campers out in the woods,
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you have the rescue team that comesto get them, you have a little
bit of gore. Like you said, there are some kind of monster movie
moments, yeah, which are Okay, I guess I don't it's the show
it this point, just like it'sjust this is as close we get to
a slash or in this show.Is what it feels like this maybe not
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I mean maybe not thinking about thesecond the next episode, so oh yeah
right right, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, I don't know.
It's weird like this episode. Inmy mind, would this episode jibe in
the drive in the first season ofthe show, really like, would it
feel out of place? Because itkind of feel like it would. First
season of the show was so tonallyflat and like and like stylistically flat,
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and this is there's a little bitof style going on here. Oh definitely,
like the whole thing with the cameralike hanging upside down and it's going
around in a circle. Like Idon't know who was who directed this episode
outside of the yeah, outside ofthe group of people that they had directing
the show to begin with, becausemy god, like somebody actually gave a
shit all of a sudden. Theywere having a lot of fun with this
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one. And I say, Idon't know who directed it. You know
why, because there's actually no director'scredited on IMDb, so I can't I
can't give credit due directed it.But the fact that there's actually something kind
of strangely stylistic going on in thisepisode, I applaud it immensely because I
was just like, for sure,where did this come from? Jared?
I was this was like one ofthe few episodes where I'm like, oh,
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it's when to go. I knowhow the popular creature is get treated,
so right right, I'm just gonnaput this. I'm gonna put this
on while I'm standing at work,And then I had to stop and like
watch it every now and then beinglike, holy shit, they're doing a
great job. Well. And that'sthe thing about this episode is they actually
again by really leaning on and againit's it's not like we don't know what
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the when to Go is. It'sjust a Cannibal I mean, Jesus Christ.
And they don't over explain it,right, I mean it's really pleasant,
right. I mean he even usedthe when to Go in Hannibal a
lot. The they I guess it'sat the first season, first or second
season, the thing where he's like, it's Hannibal in a suit with the
antlers and is like blacks. Yeah. I mean they use the whend to
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go in that show to really goodeffect, and it's nice to see this
show kind of using it to goodeffect too, because outside of this Supernatural
and that, like, I don'tthe movie that recently came out, turget
the name of it? Is itwrong Turn? No, I know what
you're talking about. Yeah. Igot asked to go as as a date,
but I can't because I pass outat theaters if they're too gory or
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flashy. So isn't I guess UntilDawn has Wendy goes the PS four game
with Rammy mallick, Have you playedthat? No kidding, No I haven't,
but I keep up on games asthey come out, even if they
don't have the show. Yeah.I again, like Whendo goes for Me
aren't something that I really It's notthat I don't care about, but I
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think the way that I've seen them, all the times that I've seen them
in things, it feels so kindof one note, and yeah, it
seems they contrived after a while.It's a great design, but it can
be like way overused for no realreason. I like the idea of the
window, like I like the ideaof like you can use the Wind to
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Go as like a metaphor. Imean, I guess if you tell the
story like in the eighteen hundreds,you could tell us tell it as like
a story of like westward expansion,and like the White Man, it's never
enough, it's never enough for thatwhole entire ship. Yeah, like it's
never enough for the White Man,but you tell it like the Wind to
Go is the White Man types.I don't know, you could do a
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movie like that and and kill likeI'm sure it priority exists even but I'm
sure, I'm sure, I'm sureit does already exist, but like you
could use the wind to go torepresent stuff, which I appreciate. I
mean yeah, it's just this isa very like straightforward retelling of a wind
to Go story. People get lostin the woods, they don't have any
food, they have to eat whatever. Explain what he eats. So see,
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now I got my wind to Goomovie story. So since it's you're
like the Great Lakes area, andthere's always those accounts where people are like
a drift after their boat crashes.That it comes down to the whole cannibalism
thing. What if it was awhen to go on a raft after a
shipwreck, That's how I would doit. I mean again, like there's
a keep it fresh. I don'tknow if that really abides by law,
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but it's kind of like the thingon a raft. Well, but that's
the thing about when it goes thatI really appreciate, is it you could
transpose it elsewhere and like take thatidea. I mean again, Hannibal used
it, so you know that's notespecially for like heavy symbolism, and absolutely
it's so choice, yeah exactly,And that's and that's kind of what I'm
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driving at. It's like the whento go almost is better as like representative
of something than just like telling itas the story. Oh yeah, you
know, like telling it flatly isjust like it's just a creature. I
mean, you know, the designof the creature is cool. It kind
of at least in this it hasthe head the skull as a head,
which is cool, cool to lookat. Yeah, with the antlers,
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hell yeah, with the antlers inthe skull, it's cool. I mean,
you know, I've seen it representedas kind of like a big beer
creature before, but I like this. I like this like white exposed bear
skull idea that that we've seen itin a couple I mean, I think
Supernatural may have even done it.But it's a really uh it's really kind
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of shocking to look at and kindof like it really it's arresting that kind
of that white skull with the antlers, especially if you're coming across in the
dead ass night right the forest,it's like, oh, it's just a
little dear guy, and it's like, uh, never mind. I think
the thing that cracks me up though, is the characters have to act as
dumb as possible to die like beyondthe dumb beyond, like aggressively dumb.
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Yeah, well, I'm gonna leaveyou and I'll be right back. He
hasn't come back in like thirty minutes. Where is he. I'm gonna go
kill him as you hear him likebeing crunched up and murdered out in the
woods, Like what the actual fuckis going on here? Come on,
guys, seriously, Oh we putit? Check it out? No?
Yeah again, Like you know,that's where the show's kind of weak writing
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comes in, is that it's likeyou had the characters being like aggressively idiotic.
So not a fan of that,because again the show traffics and all
kinds of other problematic stuff, likereally kind of scraping the bottom of the
barrel and going like, oh yeah, now we have these like moron characters
on top of everything else, likecome on, And I guess you could
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have bypassed that, because if Iwere to redo this episode and just give
like a little tiny scooch, Iwould kind of ditch like the other two
people in the second sweep. Iwould just have a park ranger that has
to do their rounds at night tomake sure that everybody's clear at the parks,
and then no matter what, likethey know kids went missing. They
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have to check out this spot.They run into the Wendy Go at one
point in time, and maybe theyget away, but they have to keep
doing their rounds. So it's likea late phases thing in my mind.
Will they just they just wanted theyjust wanted more bodies, more, more
gore, and like I don't eventhink it's not even really good gory.
I mean no, no, right, they just see anything spectacular. They
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re used the same shot essentially twiceof the When to Go killing someone with
the axe. They show it twice, like the exact same like h like,
okay, cool, it wasn't scaryeither time. No, it wasn't
the scariest part of the episode iswhen there's that camera doing that circle and
you see the herd the woman inthe whend to go fighting and it's like
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okay, like I can finally likesee something happening. And then it's like
two seconds not even oh yeah,they didn't want to expose too much,
but boy, that was a goodtwo seconds. What I think, you
know, overall, this is probablythe best episode of this season so far
for me, oh for the seasonabsolutely oh fuck yeah, are you kidding
me? There's really one I willremember. Yeah, and everybody dies at
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the and it makes sense. Yeahright, yeah, I mean once again,
I'll always roll my eyes with thefact that's so far. I don't
think anybody in this season has survived, but that's fine, Like maybe one.
I think the people that survived,the people that's the only people that
survived were the Enigma Corp. Peoplein Zombies and Strogoy because those are the
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same people from episode to episode andthen they come back and they catch a
quattle episode. Uh that's the samepeople, yeah, which is like funny
because like they don't even really makea big deal out of it in any
of the episodes. Yeah, Iwas like, I looked it up.
I like, I googled it,and I was like, oh, that's
the same people, okay, becausethey like looked like they look very similar
well, and the names sound thesame. They're like those like cheese ball
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as like Zander Mooney and Toby farSite Gazer. Right. I remember Mooney
just because I think it killer clownsevery fucking time. Yeah, that won't
make it dummy out of me,but yeah, the the lack of the
Enigma Corporation still makes very little senseto me here, it's unnecessary. It
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just is if you have them inthe show adamant. If you ain't got
them, use them right exactly.Yeah, yeah, And you know,
in regards to the Whendigo itself,I think yeah, for me, it's
more interesting as kind of a becausepeople can be when to go. You
can have whend Togo syndrome, whichor when to to Go psychosis, which
is like you think you need toeat people? Right, yeah, So
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like I think that's more interesting.It's like vampiism though, right, Like
I guess it would be synonymous toa degree, but that would definitely feed
into the animal planet aspect of itthat I love. So right, Well,
that's the thing like when Togo.The idea of the Wendigo is like
a cannibal, but it's like amystical cannibal at least if you're talking about
the human possessed by a spirit,and this is kind of both. It's
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the human possessed by the spirit,but that person becomes the when to go
creature that we know. So Ilike when to Go more as like an
idea, as like allegorical Probably Ithink that's more interesting. Yeah, yeah,
I mean you can only do thisfucking idea. So many times people
get lost in the woods and haveto fight the wend to Go right,
and one of them becomes the windto Go, Like, you can't you
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have to be able to do morethan that with the premise, because well
that's the easiest route to go,obviously, given how many people do it.
Just I think you could. Ithink you could serve the narrative better
by not doing that. Yeah,that's fair. It's good to have like
an alternate either way, right.Can you imagine if every single vampire story
was somebody having to go to acastle or zombies always have to be like
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Haitian zombies or something like. That'sfor me, it's like the When to
Go, Like there's not enough varietywith the Wend to Go story in and
of itself, at least not theways it's been told that I've seen.
I mean, maybe I'm missing outon all this whend to Go content out
there in the world, but thethings that I've seen all feel very saying.
Even the video game that I wastalking about, it's like Kids in
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the Woods, yep, Like it'sno different than any of this, Like
it's always like, you know,somebody in the woods, and then in
one of the stories, somebody becomesa wind to go in, and the
other ones it's just everybody fighting thewind to go together. So yeah,
I don't know. I think thisepisode works almost in spite of what they're
talking about. I could see that. Sure, it's always wished there was
just a little bit more, buthonestly, they worked with what they had,
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and I think because it was sucha simple structure that they could follow,
that's probably why I was so successful. It works for everybody else for
a reason because it's super easy andthere's not much that one needs to do
to land a kids go into thewoods and die episode, Like exactly,
it's like it's like horror movie premiseone be like one A is a haunted
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house, one B is the hauntedwoods. Like right, talking about cheap
shoot for the weekend, it's like, all right, well keep going down
to the woods. Like again,yeah, you're really really not having to
do much here, which is goodbecause again I think it lends something to
the episode that it's out in thewoods and it's you know, it feels
like kind of scary, deep darkwoods, but then you get into the
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nitty gritty of the episode, andit's it doesn't do anything different even with
the Wendigo story the way we've youknow, with the way we know it.
So it's interesting. It was okay, though, it was better than
almost everything else I've seen this season, right, which you know, more
often than not. I definitely celebratethe riskier choices, but considering they have
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they have had the opportunity to workwith a wealth of splendid, ambiguous ideas
and they just haven't quite landed thepunch. I think this was this was
just encouraging to see a little flashof old Lost Tapes in the third season
before we say bicone dios to it. Yeah, even even if they're going
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essentially to the well of wells withthe tropes and everything else, like,
it still works. There's a reasonthose tropes work, and there's a reason
people use them, so tried andtrue. Baby. Yeah. So so
on the next episode of Lost TapesChronicles, we will be talking about cats
a quaddle YEPI the Serpent God,which is just we'll talk about it when
we talk about it, but boy, I'm it's we kind of already touched
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on it a little bit in thisepisode, but we're we're this may this
may have been the last good episodeof this show. I don't know.
Yeah I got words. Yeah Ihave words as well, So until we
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You can find me at the trusteewebsite that I have Dolan Museum dot com
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Does it have the juice? Itdoes? It's cold. I'm so
glad so I got rid of allmy socials, but thank god I have
friends that it's still spend. Justbe a little bit on the custom corn
Kids cameos right now going for onehundred and forty five dollars over at cameo
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Kid will be old News x ten. Corn Kid will be old news next
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Colt or however he says it,Colin Yeah cold on the juice. But
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on this episode of the Culture ofthe Culture Cast. Yeah all this episode
Daddy, on this episode of ScaryStories, we tell we are talking about
the seventh episode of the third seasonof Lost Tapes. That episode is titled
When Togo Colon American cannibal When togo Colon sounds terrible of itself. Well,
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if you get if you might meeta Whendigo, you may end up
in its colon. Yeah, verymuch so. Yeah. So this episode
aired October nineteen twenty ten, abouttwelve years ago, and it is all
about the when Togo, When Togobeing the boy. It's it's kind of
like a skin walker in a lotof ways. It is a mythical Native
American indigenous people creature that invokes feelingsof greed and hunger and it cannibalizes human
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Yep, the classic. You know, it's kind of like a skin walker.
It has to do you are cursedas a skin walker because you're practicing
black magic as a whenigo you arecan you can still be human? It's
yeah, it's kind of strange.It's very much a you pick the wrong
place, the wrong time type ofscenario. Yeah, you know, the
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Whendigo in this story is kind ofan interesting interpretation. Shit, so that's
not a way I'm plinting. Yeah, right, because in this, in
this it's in this it's a person, and in story it's a creature like
it is a it is a creatureor a spirit or a spirit that possesses
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a person. So I guess thereit could be either. I think that's
kind of open. Well, theinterpretation normally is one or the other.
And according to legends, when awindigo can be created when a human eats
someone else, you know, cannibalizestheir body, and you know, even
if they're having to do it forreasons to survive, it doesn't matter,
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you know that, you know,it could possess someone who was who's very
greedy and gluttonous. But the storiesthat I've heard about whendigoes are you know,
it's someone who is eating another personby choice or by situation. Right
in this story kind of does thatcorrect? I'm you know, I'm a
little impressed, but yeah, usingusing a cannibalism as a vehicle for the
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identity theft aspect of those creatures.But it's pretty neat. It's a great
concept, and I don't know,and all around very popular myth and urban
legend. It definitely hey, itdoes fall under cryptid. I'm proud of
them for that. I truly am. And honestly, this is like one
of the episodes that a lot ofpeople remember most I totally know why.
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Yeah, well he hasn't. It'sit's interesting. It is definitely different.
It's different than the episodes we've gottenkind of like this one up until this
point. You know, we'd likemore authentic to what the OG seasons were,
which is right nice. Yeah,you know, I was gonna say
that that Skinwalker episode, I rememberneither one of us liking it very much,
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but it definitely lived within the worldof like where you would expect Skinwalkers
to be, expectations for skin Walkersif they were going to be in this
kind of show what have you?Yeah, I mean this, I would
agree this episode kind of really trafficksin what my expectations are for this kind
of episode about when it goes andyeah, you know, it's a pretty
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generic setup. Some college kids goout into the woods in the Appalachians.
They get lost. One of themeats something and becomes a when to go
and then starts eating the rest ofthem. And then two people three people
through a search party shows up lookingfor them. So there's two pieces of
footage. There's the footage from theinitial people who get lost, and then
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there's the footage from the people whocome to save them. Spoilers. Everybody
dies, Yeah, true, trueto form for the third season is indeed
everybody to think. I was aboutto say, at this point, the
expectation should be, you see somebodyin this show, They're gonna die.
Yeah, don't get too attached.I mean, there's nothing to get attached
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to. These are very much broadlypainted stereotypes. Not much of it,
not much of a character in theshow doesn't need that truth. Yeah,
especially for how the writing goes withsome of these. But I will say,
like this one, it was verytropy, it was very predictable.
But what I will say is theyleaned into it in all the right ways
that you should considering, Like theystill stuck to their guns on the cold
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open quote unquote by having the firstchunk of footage, like you were saying,
is having like the og squad andwhat happened there, and then it
picks up with like the seemed likepark Ranger was like the not Enigma Corporation.
No, I think they fucking forgotabout Enigma Corporation. We're in the
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last four episodes and we've only,like in season three, we only had
like what three Enigma Corp episodes sofar, right, Yeah, I think
so good. Yeah, So Iguess that's just kind of like, ah,
well we forgot who cares they were? Yeah, they were so incompetent
that every single one of them diedbecause well, and we will see them
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again in the next episode at least. But oh but again, like every
episode so far this season, Ifeel like, you, with the way
that they've been set up, youcould have made a case to just have
them in every episode. Yeah,you could have weaseled it. But honestly,
I kind of appreciate episodes like thiswhere it doesn't even like, it
doesn't belabor the point it does theSpooky Woods tropes very competently, right,
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Honestly, it's very serviceable, andit's a nice little exchange where we get
like some creature feature aspects in ittoo at the end, which was very
rewarding. I was not expecting that. So good on them for actually throwing
something up. Well, and thatis the thing about this episode that kind
of makes me and clearly yourself thinkabout it as more of a first season
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episode is it doesn't really do anythingwith the Whend It gooes story. It
really is just like what you're expectingand in doing that kind of generic story.
I mean, the setup for thisepisode is almost identical to the setup
for the Supernatural episode that's like thesecond or third episode of the show that
is about when it goes in thatepisode, it's almost the exact same setup.
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People get lost in the woods.In this story it's you know,
the park rangers whoever looking for him, and Supernatural it's the Winchester brothers.
I don't know how else you tellthe story. I mean, I guess
you could tell like Donner party orsomething to that effect. But this is
like the easiest setup, right well, and it's tried and true. Some
Yeah, I feel like there's nothingto it bad go with. They really
aren't. They're they're almost archival toa point, and wind it goes around
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naturalistic creature. They're not a citybound creature. I mean, you could
do Whend It goes in a citythat could be interesting, but just very
difficult. Yeah, but at thesame yeah, exactly but at the same
time, like this is the kindof thing that exists in the natural world.
It's it's folklore. I mean again, it's an indigenous people. You
know, the people the Algonquins inthis country are where this comes from.
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And those are the Great Lakes regionsof this country. That's Canada and Michigan
and all those areas in that areaof the world. This comes from them.
And you know the Ojibway word windigo, which is again like we're we're
at the point with this show,with this episode where they decided, let's
actually do the thing that we've doneat one point in this show. And
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I don't know why they decided tocome back to it all of a sudden,
because they really strayed so far awayfor so long. Yeah, it
must have been like the a squad, this was their assignment. They're like,
hey, guys, can you justdo the wind to Go episode?
Like we'll put it close to theend of the season, so it feels
like we didn't just fail from thestart. But I mean, the only
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thing that I will say that Iwill complain about just ever so slight,
ever so slightly, because this isa very good episode. I do appreciate
what they did here, and theyeven brought back the animal facts or in
this case, the lower facts.My main complaint is all of those lower
facts are white old men. Itwould have been nice to actually get a
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bit more of like a diverse perspective. But once again, for twenty ten,
what can you do? And I'msure they didn't have like all of
the fun days there, but itcomes from speed dial, so it comes
and it comes, but it comesfrom a indigenous people's tradition, so that
should have been represented. Yeah,and I mean also understand that like that
you know, as part of previouslymentioned was like yeah, and the people
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of that like standpoint probably don't wantto talk about it, which is totally
fair. I just think that itcould have been a bit more diverse on
that front. But hey whatever,Well, but I agree with you.
It is one of those things whereas I sit here and think about it,
that would be something that would belike focused on if you did it
now. It's making is making sureof that because again, like that's where
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these stories come from, and that'swhere the tradition comes from. And especially
when it's like are you well likein this region US space where It's like,
it's not like you have to findsomebody way over the fucking like England
to make commentary about it. Wetranslated from another language like these through indigenous
people, like they probably speak Englishtoo, so right, I think,
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Yeah, I do agree with youthat the talking heads there's not a lot
of variety. They're kind of likethe same people. I mean, look,
I love Lauren Coleman as much asthe next person, but like,
I don't need to see him inevery single episode like the Bigfoot episodes,
yeah, because that's kind of hisbread and butter, but like, yeah,
every single episode, Like I don'tI think they could have. Yeah,
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I think there's just some failings withthis show at this point that I
don't I don't understand them as failingsbecause they feel like easy to avoid pitfalls.
Yeah, it's just one of thosewhere it was like the medium mentality
of the day, and this wasa highly experimental show that I'm sure they
didn't really know how long it wouldgo on or how much facts they could
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actually cram in without it turning intolike a PPS special. Yeah. So
I also understand this choice, Itruly do, because it was probably just
like a couple interviews where they justhad a couple of topics sheets being like
and we're going to talk about theone, right, let me ask you
about this, let me ask youabout this, let me eddy and just
see what they can pull from.So it's a very uh, you know,
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economic choice, but it's just notvery interesting. It's one of those
things where it's like that is likethe one thing that would keep it from
being like an absolute perfect Lost Tapesepisode, in my mind, is just
getting that rounded up just a littlebit more well, And I totally agree,
and you know, I hadn't evenreally thought about that, but I
also at this point kind of feellike that the fact stuff they really don't
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try on their Oh that's why,like when it's apparent, I'm paying attention
to it, because that was likeone of my favorite little campy hooks in
the first season was it's like,oh, and they're throwing animal facts in
as hell? Yes, right,it just died And I don't know why
it did. I mean I couldwe could probably suppose and make make presumptions
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about why, namely the fact thatyou know, the show was probably not
as popular with them that it iswithout them, at least in their minds,
at least with the crowd that they'retrying to get exactly, which I
think is the people that are talkingabout this show now, is it having
scared them? Would be what thenine to fifteen crowd exactly. And the
animal the animal facts do take youout of the moment. So if they
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were trying to scare little kids,it probably don't want some quick facts about
moths and snakes thrown in there.So fair, I gotcha, right,
But at the same time, likethat was part of what made the show
interesting, and that's kind of thatwas kind of part of the charm.
That wasn't kind of part. Itwas part of the charm of the show.
And to lose it, and tolose it and not really replace it
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with anything, I mean, Iguess to replace it with more scares and
quotations like the show is not scary. I mean, I guess, I
mean, I guess, let's putourselves in the mindset of someone who's like
nine to fifteen saying it in twentyten. Yeah, I'm sure it definitely
would have resonated. I think thefirst season probably would have been like really
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eerie to me, especially like thefirst handful of it like in the mid
twenties now, right, Like thoseare people that are in their mid twenties,
so this would have been like thekind of people that we see on
YouTube talking about this show. Bengoexactly. I was. I was twenty
when the show came out, LikeI had missed it for me being scary,
Like I was eighteen to twenty forthe run of the show, Like
that's right, you know, Iwas in graduating high school and going into
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my first and second years of collegelike this, I just didn't have animal
planets. I saw it when Iwas at home, like I saw it
when I was living in my parents'house in oh eight, and then when
I moved to college, like Inever saw it again. So I never
saw the second season to the show. So that should give you an idea
of like even my commitment into theshow then was I wasn't like hunting it
down, so it was passive forsure. Yeah, and again like that,
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I think that kind of goes tomy feelings about the show almost overall,
is like the show in and ofitself has become passive. Yeah,
they definitely, Yeah, they kindof accepted the fact that they weren't being
taken seriously that they were just kindof scaring kids, and so they just
kind of leaned on that one asopposed to like really stick and buy their
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guns and making something really really intense. Yeah. I mean at one point,
at one point it was a hauntedexhibit and now it's just like a
haunted house like ride, like acounty fair. Yes, but at the
same time, this episode is thatdone rather well. I mean you kind
of hit all the notes. Youhave the campers out in the woods,
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you have the rescue team that comesto get them, you have a little
bit of gore. Like you said, there are some kind of monster movie
moments, yeah, which are Okay, I guess I don't it's the show
it this point, just like it'sjust this is as close we get to
a slash or in this show.Is what it feels like this maybe not
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I mean maybe not thinking about thesecond the next episode, so oh yeah
right right, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, I don't know.
It's weird like this episode. Inmy mind, would this episode jibe in
the drive in the first season ofthe show, really like, would it
feel out of place? Because itkind of feel like it would. First
season of the show was so tonallyflat and like and like stylistically flat,
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and this is there's a little bitof style going on here. Oh definitely,
like the whole thing with the cameralike hanging upside down and it's going
around in a circle. Like Idon't know who was who directed this episode
outside of the yeah, outside ofthe group of people that they had directing
the show to begin with, becausemy god, like somebody actually gave a
shit all of a sudden. Theywere having a lot of fun with this
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one. And I say, Idon't know who directed it. You know
why, because there's actually no director'scredited on IMDb, so I can't I
can't give credit due directed it.But the fact that there's actually something kind
of strangely stylistic going on in thisepisode, I applaud it immensely because I
was just like, for sure,where did this come from? Jared?
I was this was like one ofthe few episodes where I'm like, oh,
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it's when to go. I knowhow the popular creature is get treated,
so right right, I'm just gonnaput this. I'm gonna put this
on while I'm standing at work,And then I had to stop and like
watch it every now and then beinglike, holy shit, they're doing a
great job. Well. And that'sthe thing about this episode is they actually
again by really leaning on and againit's it's not like we don't know what
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the when to Go is. It'sjust a Cannibal I mean, Jesus Christ.
And they don't over explain it,right, I mean it's really pleasant,
right. I mean he even usedthe when to Go in Hannibal a
lot. The they I guess it'sat the first season, first or second
season, the thing where he's like, it's Hannibal in a suit with the
antlers and is like blacks. Yeah. I mean they use the whend to
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go in that show to really goodeffect, and it's nice to see this
show kind of using it to goodeffect too, because outside of this Supernatural
and that, like, I don'tthe movie that recently came out, turget
the name of it? Is itwrong Turn? No, I know what
you're talking about. Yeah. Igot asked to go as as a date,
but I can't because I pass outat theaters if they're too gory or
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flashy. So isn't I guess UntilDawn has Wendy goes the PS four game
with Rammy mallick, Have you playedthat? No kidding, No I haven't,
but I keep up on games asthey come out, even if they
don't have the show. Yeah.I again, like Whendo goes for Me
aren't something that I really It's notthat I don't care about, but I
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think the way that I've seen them, all the times that I've seen them
in things, it feels so kindof one note, and yeah, it
seems they contrived after a while.It's a great design, but it can
be like way overused for no realreason. I like the idea of the
window, like I like the ideaof like you can use the Wind to
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Go as like a metaphor. Imean, I guess if you tell the
story like in the eighteen hundreds,you could tell us tell it as like
a story of like westward expansion,and like the White Man, it's never
enough, it's never enough for thatwhole entire ship. Yeah, like it's
never enough for the White Man,but you tell it like the Wind to
Go is the White Man types.I don't know, you could do a
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movie like that and and kill likeI'm sure it priority exists even but I'm
sure, I'm sure, I'm sureit does already exist, but like you
could use the wind to go torepresent stuff, which I appreciate. I
mean yeah, it's just this isa very like straightforward retelling of a wind
to Go story. People get lostin the woods, they don't have any
food, they have to eat whatever. Explain what he eats. So see,
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now I got my wind to Goomovie story. So since it's you're
like the Great Lakes area, andthere's always those accounts where people are like
a drift after their boat crashes.That it comes down to the whole cannibalism
thing. What if it was awhen to go on a raft after a
shipwreck, That's how I would doit. I mean again, like there's
a keep it fresh. I don'tknow if that really abides by law,
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but it's kind of like the thingon a raft. Well, but that's
the thing about when it goes thatI really appreciate, is it you could
transpose it elsewhere and like take thatidea. I mean again, Hannibal used
it, so you know that's notespecially for like heavy symbolism, and absolutely
it's so choice, yeah exactly,And that's and that's kind of what I'm
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driving at. It's like the whento go almost is better as like representative
of something than just like telling itas the story. Oh yeah, you
know, like telling it flatly isjust like it's just a creature. I
mean, you know, the designof the creature is cool. It kind
of at least in this it hasthe head the skull as a head,
which is cool, cool to lookat. Yeah, with the antlers,
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hell yeah, with the antlers inthe skull, it's cool. I mean,
you know, I've seen it representedas kind of like a big beer
creature before, but I like this. I like this like white exposed bear
skull idea that that we've seen itin a couple I mean, I think
Supernatural may have even done it.But it's a really uh it's really kind
(21:26):
of shocking to look at and kindof like it really it's arresting that kind
of that white skull with the antlers, especially if you're coming across in the
dead ass night right the forest,it's like, oh, it's just a
little dear guy, and it's like, uh, never mind. I think
the thing that cracks me up though, is the characters have to act as
dumb as possible to die like beyondthe dumb beyond, like aggressively dumb.
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Yeah, well, I'm gonna leaveyou and I'll be right back. He
hasn't come back in like thirty minutes. Where is he. I'm gonna go
kill him as you hear him likebeing crunched up and murdered out in the
woods, Like what the actual fuckis going on here? Come on,
guys, seriously, Oh we putit? Check it out? No?
Yeah again, Like you know,that's where the show's kind of weak writing
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comes in, is that it's likeyou had the characters being like aggressively idiotic.
So not a fan of that,because again the show traffics and all
kinds of other problematic stuff, likereally kind of scraping the bottom of the
barrel and going like, oh yeah, now we have these like moron characters
on top of everything else, likecome on, And I guess you could
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have bypassed that, because if Iwere to redo this episode and just give
like a little tiny scooch, Iwould kind of ditch like the other two
people in the second sweep. Iwould just have a park ranger that has
to do their rounds at night tomake sure that everybody's clear at the parks,
and then no matter what, likethey know kids went missing. They
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have to check out this spot.They run into the Wendy Go at one
point in time, and maybe theyget away, but they have to keep
doing their rounds. So it's likea late phases thing in my mind.
Will they just they just wanted theyjust wanted more bodies, more, more
gore, and like I don't eventhink it's not even really good gory.
I mean no, no, right, they just see anything spectacular. They
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re used the same shot essentially twiceof the When to Go killing someone with
the axe. They show it twice, like the exact same like h like,
okay, cool, it wasn't scaryeither time. No, it wasn't
the scariest part of the episode iswhen there's that camera doing that circle and
you see the herd the woman inthe whend to go fighting and it's like
(23:37):
okay, like I can finally likesee something happening. And then it's like
two seconds not even oh yeah,they didn't want to expose too much,
but boy, that was a goodtwo seconds. What I think, you
know, overall, this is probablythe best episode of this season so far
for me, oh for the seasonabsolutely oh fuck yeah, are you kidding
me? There's really one I willremember. Yeah, and everybody dies at
(23:59):
the and it makes sense. Yeahright, yeah, I mean once again,
I'll always roll my eyes with thefact that's so far. I don't
think anybody in this season has survived, but that's fine, Like maybe one.
I think the people that survived,the people that's the only people that
survived were the Enigma Corp. Peoplein Zombies and Strogoy because those are the
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same people from episode to episode andthen they come back and they catch a
quattle episode. Uh that's the samepeople, yeah, which is like funny
because like they don't even really makea big deal out of it in any
of the episodes. Yeah, Iwas like, I looked it up.
I like, I googled it,and I was like, oh, that's
the same people, okay, becausethey like looked like they look very similar
well, and the names sound thesame. They're like those like cheese ball
(24:45):
as like Zander Mooney and Toby farSite Gazer. Right. I remember Mooney
just because I think it killer clownsevery fucking time. Yeah, that won't
make it dummy out of me,but yeah, the the lack of the
Enigma Corporation still makes very little senseto me here, it's unnecessary. It
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just is if you have them inthe show adamant. If you ain't got
them, use them right exactly.Yeah, yeah, And you know,
in regards to the Whendigo itself,I think yeah, for me, it's
more interesting as kind of a becausepeople can be when to go. You
can have whend Togo syndrome, whichor when to to Go psychosis, which
is like you think you need toeat people? Right, yeah, So
(25:30):
like I think that's more interesting.It's like vampiism though, right, Like
I guess it would be synonymous toa degree, but that would definitely feed
into the animal planet aspect of itthat I love. So right, Well,
that's the thing like when Togo.The idea of the Wendigo is like
a cannibal, but it's like amystical cannibal at least if you're talking about
the human possessed by a spirit,and this is kind of both. It's
(25:52):
the human possessed by the spirit,but that person becomes the when to go
creature that we know. So Ilike when to Go more as like an
idea, as like allegorical Probably Ithink that's more interesting. Yeah, yeah,
I mean you can only do thisfucking idea. So many times people
get lost in the woods and haveto fight the wend to Go right,
and one of them becomes the windto Go, Like, you can't you
(26:15):
have to be able to do morethan that with the premise, because well
that's the easiest route to go,obviously, given how many people do it.
Just I think you could. Ithink you could serve the narrative better
by not doing that. Yeah,that's fair. It's good to have like
an alternate either way, right.Can you imagine if every single vampire story
was somebody having to go to acastle or zombies always have to be like
(26:38):
Haitian zombies or something like. That'sfor me, it's like the When to
Go, Like there's not enough varietywith the Wend to Go story in and
of itself, at least not theways it's been told that I've seen.
I mean, maybe I'm missing outon all this whend to Go content out
there in the world, but thethings that I've seen all feel very saying.
Even the video game that I wastalking about, it's like Kids in
(27:02):
the Woods, yep, Like it'sno different than any of this, Like
it's always like, you know,somebody in the woods, and then in
one of the stories, somebody becomesa wind to go in, and the
other ones it's just everybody fighting thewind to go together. So yeah,
I don't know. I think thisepisode works almost in spite of what they're
talking about. I could see that. Sure, it's always wished there was
just a little bit more, buthonestly, they worked with what they had,
(27:26):
and I think because it was sucha simple structure that they could follow,
that's probably why I was so successful. It works for everybody else for
a reason because it's super easy andthere's not much that one needs to do
to land a kids go into thewoods and die episode, Like exactly,
it's like it's like horror movie premiseone be like one A is a haunted
(27:48):
house, one B is the hauntedwoods. Like right, talking about cheap
shoot for the weekend, it's like, all right, well keep going down
to the woods. Like again,yeah, you're really really not having to
do much here, which is goodbecause again I think it lends something to
the episode that it's out in thewoods and it's you know, it feels
like kind of scary, deep darkwoods, but then you get into the
(28:11):
nitty gritty of the episode, andit's it doesn't do anything different even with
the Wendigo story the way we've youknow, with the way we know it.
So it's interesting. It was okay, though, it was better than
almost everything else I've seen this season, right, which you know, more
often than not. I definitely celebratethe riskier choices, but considering they have
(28:32):
they have had the opportunity to workwith a wealth of splendid, ambiguous ideas
and they just haven't quite landed thepunch. I think this was this was
just encouraging to see a little flashof old Lost Tapes in the third season
before we say bicone dios to it. Yeah, even even if they're going
(28:52):
essentially to the well of wells withthe tropes and everything else, like,
it still works. There's a reasonthose tropes work, and there's a reason
people use them, so tried andtrue. Baby. Yeah. So so
on the next episode of Lost TapesChronicles, we will be talking about cats
a quaddle YEPI the Serpent God,which is just we'll talk about it when
we talk about it, but boy, I'm it's we kind of already touched
(29:15):
on it a little bit in thisepisode, but we're we're this may this
may have been the last good episodeof this show. I don't know.
Yeah I got words. Yeah Ihave words as well, So until we
share those words with one another,Maggie work, can people find you?
You can find me at the trusteewebsite that I have Dolan Museum dot com
(29:37):
d O L I N. It'sessentially where I keep all my whacking weird
artwork. Come come stop eyes,I mean an email as for me ce
stash dot com, cstac hiw dotcom. That's my link tree. Go
there for all the things that Iwork on, which are varied and various,
very various, very various. Getset times fast. As for this
(29:57):
show, big thanks away to Maggiethe Odd and Dustin Rutledge for the album
artwork for the show. I getto thank Maggie directly right here, right
now in person. And to AlexMalmack of Blondo for the music for the
show. You can find him onSpotify just search Blondo. As for us,
Maggie, thank you so much forjoining me as always. Oh of
course, Chris, thanks for havingme. And this show could be found
(30:18):
at scary Stories wetell dot com.Scary Stories wtno social media, but just
like in, rate and review theshow on iTunes. That's it. That's
why you need to do, andthat's do it. Just do that.
That's easy enough. That's easy enough. Man. We'll let our good friend
of the host of Sightings, misterTim White, lead us out. No
mystery is closed to an open mind. Two
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