September 13, 2023 • 50 mins
Join Chris and Emma as they delve into the spooky world of r/paranormal and other user-submitted content over at Reddit with The Reddit Files.
You can follow Chris Stachiw @Casualty_Chris, Jess Byard @writerjessbyard, and the podcast @ScaryStoriesWT. Alex Malnack of Blondo provides the music for the podcast; that track is "Stay Here." The album artwork is provided by Maggie the Odd. Don't forget to check out our official Facebook and Instagram pages for news, upcoming episodes, and more!
You can follow Chris Stachiw @Casualty_Chris, Jess Byard @writerjessbyard, and the podcast @ScaryStoriesWT. Alex Malnack of Blondo provides the music for the podcast; that track is "Stay Here." The album artwork is provided by Maggie the Odd. Don't forget to check out our official Facebook and Instagram pages for news, upcoming episodes, and more!
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We're a hello everyone, and welcometo get another episode of Scary Stories.
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I am one of your hosts,Chris Statue. Oh, and I'm the
other one. I'm a hello OkaWed introduce you every time. If you're
one of the hosts, you cando it yourself. You remember how to
do it? Go do it?You were your own host. At one
point, I was that's true.I was I should not do this here.
You're correct. Oh, I'm notany how, dare you now remember
I'm kidding ID, It's just beenso long, that's fair. Hey,
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you know what, though, we'redoing another our slash paranormal folks. Why
are we doing our slash paranormal Becausethe Internet is a fun place and people
on the Internet have interesting stories totell. Like always, a couple things
that we're going to be talking about. We will be mentioning the names of
the accounts and the account holders thatare posting these along with the up votes
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and downbotes and links in the episodedescription if you want to go and check
out these articles for yourself, andyou should, because guess what, there
aren't enough places on the Internet withuser created content about paranormal stuff. And
if you're into this, stuff.You're probably already there anyways, and you
know what I for once, I'mgoing to turn the floor over to somebody
else. And Emma, why don'tyou get us started on an our slash
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paranormal because it's been a minute sinceyou and I have done one of these
together. We know, and Ilove these so much, and you know
it's funny. This is the onething from my old show that I insisted
that we bring into this one becauseI knew there's so much funder record,
and I love hearing other people's stories. I love reacting to other people's stories.
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The cool thing about when I didthis on the old show is that
I had my co host, whoI believed to be much more of an
expert in the stuff than I am, to sort of rate whether or not
he thought it was, you know, legit, based off of his idea
of what he thinks is legit inthe world of paranormal. I am definitely
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no authority in that. So Ijust here to shoot the ship. You're
ready, I'm ready. Let's doit, all right? So this one
is by Creepy Dash total eight twofour one. My friends and I used
an Auigi board and a glass glassash tray, glass ash tray say that
for me, glass ash tray thatwas weird. My friends and I used
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and AUGI board and a glass ashtray busted in half. So when I
was in high school, my friendsand I were into a really spooky ship
that we had no business messing aroundwith. We would visit cemeteries at night,
go to our small town's local allhaunt spots to try to stir up
any urban legends. But the storyI'm about to tell made us quit cold
turkey try to seek out the paranormal. One night, we're over at our
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friend's century old home. I meanit was old and creaky and the perfect
setting for a night of awuiji.We brought it out and just for the
first half hour, nothing in sanehappened, just some movement from the planchet.
Then, feeling smug, I askedthe spirits what my middle name was.
The thing is, my middle nameis literally made up by my parents.
It's not a real name. Noone in the circle knew, let
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alone could spell my middle name.There was literally no way someone could even
guess it. But the board knewit spelled my middle name perfectly, and
I could feel my heart fall intomy gut. Keep in mind, my
hands were not on the planchet,so I couldn't have moved it myself.
Everyone laughed because what a silly middlename that would be, but I had
to confess that it was mine,and the color drained from everyone's face.
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All of a sudden, a glassashtray that was sitting a few feet away
on the coffee table split clean intoand we were done. We left the
house to go stay somewhere else,and fortunately I have never experienced anything that's
terrifying ever again, h boy,what are the as always? What are
the upboats? What are the downboats? And what do the comments have to
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say? Comments? The comments,I feel like are always a good barometer
here in the world of user creativecontent, especially these folks at our slash
Paranormal, because these folks are readingthis stuff every day, and I feel
like they're seeing so much of itthat they are always they're always on point.
The folks at our slash Parents,I'm gonna give them a shout out.
They know their ship in the comments. So what are what are they
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saying here? What's kind of theirtake on this? Well? This one's
four hundred up boats, that's prettygood, and I honestly just think it's
because it's entertained. In most ofthe time, I feel like they up
vote just because of the under dating, and then obviously downboats just sort of
even it out. It's not reallya separate count, right, But uh,
well, of course the most importantthing is people asking, well,
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what is your middle name? Now? I want to know, right,
yes, I dare you you willnever guess. I don't even know how
to pronounce this out loud? Isit all rich? It's not that I'm
gonna di spell it and then you'reyou're gonna tell me how you think it's
pronounced, because I have no earthlyclue. Okay, ready, Hey A
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D d L. That's it,cattle, That's what I'm thinking. But
I don't think that's right. Imean, it might be. I don't
know what what what is? Whatis that made up of? Like this
person is saying that this is acreation of their parents solely, So look,
I've never k a D D L. I've never seen that before.
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So that is a creation of theirparents. Look, I think again,
like anything else, if we assumethat they're on the level and they're being
honest, and they're being serious,and this is not a lark. This
is not some fucking terrifying right,I mean, oh, I mean again,
when it comes down to a coupleof questions, if you believe in
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spirits and spirit energy, do youbelieve that spirit energy can manipulate things?
Because like a glass ash tray,it could break, but you would have
to have it really hot and thenhave it be really cold afterwards, and
that would break it. But like, I don't think you can even break
one in your hand, Like Idon't think you could snap one in a
solid one. I'm imagining a heavyduty ash tray. I don't know about
you, Like, I mean,I haven't been around a lot of them.
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I'm expecting it's like a big glassash tray and that would not be
easy to break in half. Butthen it also makes me wonder, like
how often does something like that justhappen into paranormal stories? Like how common
is it for an item to notlike fall and break, but to just
simply break in place, which Iwould personally think is much more terrifying than
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something falling and breaking, because youcould say, like, oh, somebody
banged into a wall. Somebody jumpeda breeze, and you can't really explain
away an item that nobody is touchingsimply breaking in place that is terrifying.
It is so I, you knowwhat, I what? I you know.
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It's interesting though, because so thereason I picked this one specifically,
and I do have a reason whyI picked this one, is because I
think I've told you this story maybeon the podcast, maybe not feel like
I have, correct me if Ihave. But when I was for a
very brief time, I was apseudo counselor at a sleep away camp when
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I was like seventeen, And Isay pseudo because I was taking care of
like staff three year old. Iwasn't really a counselor, but I had
some friends there that were counselors andone of them had NOWEGI board and it
was like nighttime. They invited mein a couple of other people to like
go to this like creepy building,you know. I think it was got
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if I'm remembering correctly, I thinkit was like a like a dance like
auditorium or something like a big woodenfloor in a in a stage, and
basically like we sat on this woodenfloor, turned off the lights at night
just stead of summer, like fiveof us. Maybe he brings out this
Auigi board. He has like thiswhole system, Like he's using a lighter
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and like drawing a pentagram in theair with his flame and like says things
and tells us like the whole wholething. It was a true ritual.
I don't know whether or not itwas accurate ritual, but it sure was
a ritual. And I had touse an Awuiji board, and I was
like super lim. My sister hadone. Scared the shit out of me,
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but that's because I was little andeverything scared the shit out of me.
So I can't really say whether ornot we had a paranormal experience.
But this time they were asking alot of questions, Like we were all
sitting around, I have a handon the plan chet. Everybody was asking
questions. And then it was likemy turn. They were like, YO,
should ask something, and I was. I was an insecure asque kid,
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and basically what I had asked,almost similar was if I had lived
up to my middle name, sonot to spell my middle name, which
honestly would have been more convincing tome in the bullment. If they could
uh. It was my Hebrew name, which i'd sometimes consider like an offshoot
of my middle name adjacent. Itactually would have been really cool if I
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had them spell it, because it'sspelled b R A c cha, which
nobody would think. And it's justlike this guy's well, just like this
guy's middle name, right, likeyeah, person. So it means blessing,
which was given to me because mymom I had two miscarriages before me,
and so that's that's a big thingto live up to. And so
I was like, I'll ask thespirits if I lived up to being a
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blessing like my mother wanted. Iwas a very insecure seventeen year old,
and it said yes, And Ijust remember bursting into tears as if it
were just like this massive emotional experienceout of nowhere, not like sobbing,
but just like I was moved,like immediately moved, which I wouldn't say
is uncommon, but it was alittle weird how sudden it was. And
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so I was just like, oh, this is kind of similar, similar
experience. I felt a bit ofa kinship. Obviously that's much less convincing
to me. I wish i'd saidit spell my Hebrew name. Uh,
that would have been way more convincing. I kind of wish I did,
Honestly, looking back, I kindof wish that's what I asked instead,
and then I could have done thefollow up of did I love up to
it? I just wanted to hearit. I just needed to be reassured
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chloy is is that if it's isthe case, then everybody, you know,
nobody knew what the name was,because that's always the thing is like,
is somebody moving the planchet? Youknow? That's everybody. I mean,
that's it's it's a tacit agreement betweeneverybody that nobody wants to be disappointed
by it not doing anything. I'mnot saying a Wegi boards don't work,
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because I've been told by people whohave fucked around with them not to and
I don't think they're just saying thatfor thematic effect. But at the same
time, I don't think everybody it'slike anything else. It's like someone who
picks up a gun isn't going tonecessarily hit the target by pointing it and
shooting, just like someone picking upa Wegi board's not gonna necessarily commune with
the other side. Of the veiljust because they're moving the planchet around,
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you know. And I would hopethat that's the fucking case, because otherwise
it's a real big problem that there'sjust wegi boards out there where people can
do Oh I'm just communing. Ohyeah, great, like I fucking hope
not. Yeah. I mean,I think what I've heard in the past
is that it's not that the planchet itself moves, but it's that like
the energy is moving through like yourhands to guide it. So it is
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sort of like you're moving it,but you're not conscious of moving it.
Sor enough, I think, yeah, sure, or I could just you
know what proved to me that it'smoving. I'm going to take my hands
and sit on them, and youdo the same, and if it starts
moving, then it's moving on itsown. Otherwise we are still moving it,
you know, like, but Ithink like spiritual people acknowledge that it's
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not moving on its own. Ijust can't vouch for the explanation, but
I'm pretty sure there's some like energyexplanation that I've heard before that I can't
remember. I'm I'm less worried asto whether or not I'm moving it or
not, or whether or not themotions I'm moving it in are yielding anything
of value? Right, yeah,again, Like I again, I assume
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someone who knows what they're doing,because you don't just have a Weiji board
and that's it, like you're you'reusing it in tandem with other things.
Normally, if it's someone who knowswhat they're doing, they're not you know,
I'm not just sitting here with youon zoom going all right, I'm
moving my Weigi plan chet around andI'm doing it like there is a rhyme
and reason to it, which iswhy I think it's like giving most people
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a Rubik's cube and say solve thatand I'll give you a hundred dollars.
Most people go, I could beone hundred dollars poor and not care because
I already was like, I'm notgoing to fuck around with a Rubik's cube
because I don't understand how to makeit look the way it's supposed to be
solved anymore than I think people arefucking around with a Weiji board knowing what
they're doing. The people that arearen't doing it because I do think that
there is something to it. Ijust think most people are just oh,
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the energies moving through me. Yes, it is, I bet it is.
Yeah, I'm not trying to discountit. It's just everybody can go
buy a Weiji board. Then whyisn't everybody summoning something? That's a good
question, And I think that it'shappening more often than you think. But
then it's also like I hear,okay, I hear opposing things. I
hear like there's a correct way todo it, and then and there's an
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incorrect way to do it, andby there's a correct way to actually achieve
something with it, and a waythat like nothing will happen, and then
there's like the way to like closeit correctly and incorrectly, which is like
a whole other thing, but talkingspecifically of like the whole there is a
correct incorrect way to use an Awijiboard, which I think has to do
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with the whole like ritualistic aspect ofit and the setup and like some people
like you hold your breath for liketen seconds to show that you're revering the
fact that you're talking to people thatare that can't free I don't know,
I've heard like a lot of likeweird shit it's like turn off all the
lights and you want to make surethat there are candles. But then other
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people are like, all that mattersis that, like you very politely say
goodbye at the end. There areso many like weird rules and it makes
you wonder, like because there's somany people that are like, why why
is the spiritual apparent spiritual thing bebeing mass produced by Hasbro? And I
would argue, it's not the itemitself, but it's how we use the
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item. And I think anybody withthe right types of tools to help channel
something, it could be anything.I mean, there are people that print
out Auigi boards and give it thesame meaning and the same purpose. You
know, make a pinch and outof paper. It's less about the physicality
of it and more about the meaningyou assigned to it, the same way
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the people you know use terot cardsand use you know, like they're like
dowsing rods and pendulums. Like Ithink it's all the same thing. It's
just that like Auiji boards have areal bad rap. Well, they're also
very theatric it's very theatrical. Spellthis out it is dowsing spendulums. It's
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if it's going clockwise, it's yes. If it's going it's like that.
That's an analog, right, likeyes or no. Dowsing is similar,
like this is spell Like you saidtell me my middle name. I mean
that's this whole story is predicated ontell me Like, because you've told me
my middle name. Therefore, anythingthat happens from here on out is possibly
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intervened by some other spirit. Right, that's my assumption with this story.
Something has made its presence known byletting you know it knows something about you
that it could not know that itshould not know, and then it breaks
an ashtray? To what end ismy question to scare you? To stop
you from doing this warning? Imean, like there are a lot of
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I get angered it. It showedyou that it's powerful. But that's the
thing I would think a malicious spiritwould not warn you, like in the
Exorcist. It's not like Puzuzu warnedReagan and was like, hey, stop
doing that or I'm gonna possess you. I think I think a lot of
these things that we're seeing are peopleinteracting with positive of energy that's telling them
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like, you need to stop whatyou're doing now, because if I'm not
the one here. It could besomething else that's not as benevolent as I
might be. But again, likeyou can't even trust those spirits because as
I read in a book last year, God damn forget the name of it
now, you can't trust anything.On the other side, you can't trust
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what we don't know and what wecan't know. What literally that too,
right, Like if a spirit cameto me tomorrow saying it's my grandfather,
I'm not gonna fucking believe it's mygrandfather, No fucking way, even if
it told me everything he knew,any piece of like private information that only
he and I could have known.No fucking way what I believe it's my
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grandfather, my grandmother, anybody,because there's just no way to prove it,
right, and there's no way toprove it. But it's interesting that
nobody's like, you know, well, and I want to say everything I
want to say nobody, But likemost people in the spiritual community are very
ANTIWEGI words, but everybody is verypro terro cards obviously, Like if you
go onto like you know, religiouspeople, especially that the Christians calls,
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so they're like, I don't fuckwith any of it. It's all satan.
Don't fuck with it, you don'ttouch it. I don't know it's
funny because of the somebody that doesTaro there. I was also told earlyly
on, like you shouldn't touch anyof it because you don't know what you're
inviting into your life when you startdoing it. I haven't had any negative
experiences with it. I've been doingit quite a bit. I've done it
for many people, and I feellike, and a Weiji board is so
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similar in that regard, like thesame way, like you don't know what
you're communicating with. I don't knowwhy one gets the bad rap in the
other dostn I honestly think they bothget bad raps. I would say Taro
has a bad rap, you don'tthink. But not within the spiritual community,
that's okay. I mean Weji boards, a Weiji boards, everybody's like,
if you don't know exactly what you'redoing, do not fucking touch it.
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Even if you do know what you'redoing, don't fucking touch it.
But everybody's like, oh, Ijust got this really pretty new deck,
and it's like fine, And I'mone and I am one of those people.
But I think to your point,like, I think it is communing
with energy either way, whatever thatenergy is, be it morphous or a
morphous energy. I think that's that'sthe way I look at it. Like
Taro, I think is more interactingwith a morphous just energy in the world.
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And I think Auiji board is athere's an intent like people are doing
it with intent, right like mostpeople weigi boards like tell me my name,
give me a piece of information,I want to commune with my grandfather,
you know whoever. And it's likeyou're doing this and you're with Taro,
you're asking the universe to inform thecards that you're picking. I guess,
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or you're making an assumption about theway things are being presented to you.
Wigia is pretty cut and dry,like it can't do anything other than
that's fair. Give you a letter, and again, if it gives me
why ees in, Yes, yes, there is nothing I can interpret that
as. But if all of asudden it gives me ten letters that mean
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nothing, well, am I thensupposed to unscramble it? Is it like
a garbled message? Like that's theother thing, like assuming input in receives
input out. That is understandable too. Because again I'm assuming, what if
you talk to a spirit that's illiterate, or talk to a spirit that doesn't
speak English, that's fair, that'sa good point. Why do I assume
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that an illiterate ghost more though,I mean, I think it's interesting either
way to have whatever it is onthe other side be unable to respond,
but do something like again, likewhat would someone who's illiterate. I guess,
like it would just be garbled letters. I guess, yeah, if
it's another language, it's like theystart responding SI. See, I mean
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yeah, get it, like theyjust creake more ash Trays. I think
the idea that that's like something thathappened, that's like and then the ash
Tray broke. It's like, holyshit, get me the fly here.
Yeah, if that's what happened.If I was sitting down at this party
or whatever, let's gathering and Iwas like spelling middle name and it did,
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and then Ashtray brooke. I alsowould never fuck with anything spiritual for
the rest of my life. Ospell, get me the fuck out,
spell by bone everybody, like you'reI'm with you, Like, why even
contemplate another thing? Nah? Likeit. I think a lot of it
has to do with intention, youknow. I mean, something that you
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hear a lot is like just makesure that whatever you're talking to is of
love and light. You hear thata lot, love and light a lot
in the spiritual community. And it'slike, as it's interesting because people are
very much like, you need toset these boundaries because I guess everybody says,
like you never want to give demonspermission. Demons need permission, right
like evil things need permission. Sonever invite something in, never say like,
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please come into my house, You'rewelcome here, like the fucking Annabelle
dolls, Like you don't write whenthey're like and we invited the little girl
into our house because she was scared. It's like, what do you out
of your minds? Like, yes, you actually are out of your fucking
minds, or I like I kindof assume with Weigi like it's less,
you're just out of your depth andyou're not doing anything wrong. I don't
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think people. I don't think agroup of fifteen year old who pick up
a WIGI board and use it aredoing anything wrong. I think it's just
an immensely bad idea to fuck withthings that you don't understand, and in
a lot of ways, even thepeople who know what they're talking about still
can't explain explicitly is the case.It's more theoretically, if this were the
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case, this is what would happen. It's like, if you fuck with
weigi, something might happen. Whatis happening. We don't know how it's
happening. We don't know. Butsometimes when people do things with weigi boards,
ashtrays fucking break. Like I wouldn'tfuck with the Ouiji board knowing that
possibly shit could happen that is unexplainable. Like this just seems like a bad
idea, right, Okay. IfI was like, Hey, there's this
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like really cool event with like someguy that totally knows what he's doing,
and like you vetted him, likeyou knew Al's like and he's doing this
like interactive Owegia board, fucking Isaid, I could get us tickets for
free. No fuck you want?You want nothing to do with it.
I've been a curious I want.I mean again, even if he knows
what he's doing, it's it's ablind it's not double blind, but it's
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blind because he doesn't know what's onthe other side. Of whatever he's talking
to. He's talking through a oneway glass. That side can see us
clearly, it has to see somethingto respond to. But holy shit,
like, we don't know what's onthe other side. And so yeah,
if some guy's going, well,I can, I can guarantee talk to
the other side. It's like,you don't know what you're talking to.
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And even if you are told whatyou're talking to, buy what's talking to,
you don't believe it because it's,like you said, you can't prove
it. So no, I wouldnot. I think wegia boards, if
you know what you're doing in theright hands, you can actually create something
out of a piece of class anda piece of cardboard. Yeah, things
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throughout history have been less that havemeant more to people, like two pieces
of wood together. It's the samething, you know, ultimately, realistically,
does one even need a weiji boardto communicate? I think if you
sit long enough and it's quiet enough, and you quiet your mind enough,
and you just sit there, Ithink you can hear anything and hear all
kinds of wild shit just going onin the outer reaches of our perception,
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because it's not that hard to believe. But I think if you bring something
like that into your house, you'rekind of setting up a lightning rod or
an antenna as it were, tokind of I could see that quiet.
Yeah, you open a door,I don't want to fuck with it.
You don't want to open the door. I mean I do, but I
don't because I don't know what ifit gets opened. Is there a way
to close it? Probably not.Popular media would lead us to believe.
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Probably not as the case. So, so I have a story that has
nothing to do with exorcisms or ghostsor creepy weiji boards. It's a it's
a little bit more well, it'sa little bit more Canadian a So this
comes from fifteen days ago as postedby Kayden J. Peters. It has
one point one k up votes,which is a lot. That is a
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lot. It's got a little bitof a lead up, it's got a
little bit of a runway to it. So locational context, I live on
a farm on the side of amountain in the middle of nowhere in British
Columbia's interior, no cell service.Neighbors are beyond shouting distance, a very
on your own lifestyle out here.My trailer is at the top of this
property, next to a barn,surrounded three hundred and sixty degrees with forest
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except for the little road. Themountain mount Ida has a long history with
the Aboriginal people of my area.I've been told stories of the mountains since
i was a kid. Basically thesummary of every story is people are banished
from the mountain because the spirits makeit too dangerous. All sorts of weird
things have been seen and have happenedon this mountain. Last night, around
ten forty five, I heard threesets of sirens rushed by the road out
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here. You never hear sirens inmy at of fifteen years here. I've
heard one siren, and it wasearlier this week. Basically, it just
intrigued me at this point. Wasn'tuntil about a half an hour later so
and my power cuts out. I'malready in bed at this point lights were
out. Only way I actually noticedwas because I had no WiFi. Now
that's always a hard stopper, becauseno WiFi out here means I'm entirely on
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my own. This makes me anxious, for sure, but I'm more worried
that I won't be able to callthe fire department if something catches on fire
more than anything, like the middleinline. I like the practicality of this
person, I really do or geta satellite phone, or get a land
line. Yeah, but if they'rein the middle of nowhere, there's no
way to get them a land line. So it's like they're in the middle.
They're in a trailer in the middleof They said they're in the middle
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of nowhere on a mountain. Theydid say that they could probably find a
way to get the lamb. Areyou are you thinking that they're being hyperbolic
about how in the middle of nowherethey are? No, I just I
don't understand landlines, but I haveone. Still, clearly you know that
the land line and has to likea pole carries it to you. No,
I don't know anything. I justknow that I have one. Oh
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my god, how does this work? This one? And guess what,
when the power goes out, youcan still use it? Really? Oh
yeah, how I don't know howit works. I could ask my dad
that someday, every time that we'vehad the pot when we don't have a
generator, we've been crying for agenerator for my entire heck in life.
And all I know is that thering doesn't work or has like a weird
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ring that's like a different ring whenthe power goes out. It's really weird.
What are we doing? We don'teven know. We're such fucking millennials.
We don't even understand phones anymore.I mean, I have we ever
did? Be Now? It's convenient, all right, it's always convenient,
right well, I being lumped inwith millennials. They get so much shit.
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I don't about that, Yeah,I hear you. So anyways,
back to our friend on the mountThen, out of nowhere, I heard
this super sharp and loud cry,like a kid who just crashed on a
bike, hysterical crying from what soundsto be a young child. My dogs
are going absolutely nuts at the door. Now, if you're familiar with cougars
slash mountain lions, you should knowthat they can often mimic a child crying
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and scary accurately too. So lyingthere, as tension builds, I'm telling
myself it's cougar, that's all.It's just a cougar. For me,
it's the best case scenario right nowthat it's just a cougar. Dogs have
finally calmed down, and I'm juststill trying to get some shut eye when
I hear the second sound. Thiswas an ungodly sound that I've never heard
in my life. This sounded likea mix of every horror movie monster all
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in one. I can't even describeit. It was about five seconds of
pure screeching, like a demonic bansheewith the vocal cords of a t Rex.
The base to it shook my bed. It was as if there was
a concert sized sound system hiding inthe forest blasting zombie vomit. I could
taste my heartbeat at this point.My dogs are acting like rabies written pit
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bowls towards the door, snarling andgrowling like whatever just screamed was on the
other side of the door. Ididn't know what to do at this point.
Couldn't call or get in contact withanyone. Lights are all off.
I'm just lying there in the dark, utterly and completely scared. It was
not about to get up and goinvestigate. It's in the middle of winter,
of course. Two I just liedthere, checking my phone every thirty
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seconds seeing if the Wi Fi cameback. Nothing else came after though,
just ended up falling asleep at somepoint. As of this morning, everything
is back to normal, nothing creepygoing on. Powerback on made a post
in the local FB group. Nobodyelse in the area heard anything and only
a few lost power as well asme. So take it as you will.
Cougar and heat, Bigfoot coming outof hibernation, thousand year old native
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ghosts trying to get me off hisland. I'm not a very paranormal guy,
and no idea what it could havebeen at this point. Would love
to hear your thoughts, ideas andor questions. Now now I will mention
this one comes with an update,which is the rarity. We haven't had
one that has an update in theposting. So update, time to update
and answer a few questions and ideasfrom everyone. So she give us a
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little bit of a our idea,maybe some what other people are talking about.
So to start, it has beenconfirmed the sirens in the power was
due to a motor vehicle incident intoa power poll a kilometer or so down
the road. Strangely enough, Ihave also found out that other siren a
week ago so was someone responding toan MVI but in almost the exact same
spot. Motor vehicle incident. I'massuming then take that as you will.
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I also decided to open read itfor the first time to see all the
comments at about one in the morning. Terrible idea. You guys have all
scared the crap out of me evenmore. I mean, yeah, no
shit, I mean it sounds scaryas it is. General update, Yes
to everyone mentioning it. I dohave a generator problem is it's up in
the barn along with the Wi Firouter. Definitely was not going to even
open my bedroom door, let alonego outside after hearing that and go into
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the dark and creepy barn, soscrew around with the generator. I have
checked around the walkable vicinity. Notracks or anything of interest that I found,
although I did not want to gosearching through the forest for tracks to
be completely honest. Double smartys forgun protect and I would absolutely love to
have a gun for this exact reason, but it's a hassle in Canada,
and even if I did decide tomorrowwas the day, it's a long process
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and I probably wouldn't even have agun until next winter, so that won't
help me. Now. It's auniquely Canadian problem, isn't it. It
is, and I don't know oddlycomforting to hear somebody can't get a gun
immediately, but worse scenario for it, I guess right, cougar. As
I said, the first one wasdefinitely a cougar. In my opinion,
I have heard many cougars throughout mylife, and they've made a lot of
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weird noises. But that's second one. I just have a tough time accepting
that noise as a cougar in thedefense of it being a cougar. And
heat, though the weather has beenabsurdly strange and very warm, It's usually
about negative fifteen this time of yearI hope. Don't know if celsias or
fahrenheit, but it's sitting at aroundzero these past few weeks. This could
cause animals, including cougars, thinkingit's spring, concluding to some weird behavior
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Government lab question mark. I haveto, unfortunately say this is most likely
not the case. I have exploreda lot of the mountain as trails in
my back forty going to Crown Landand up to the rest of the mountain.
It's just logging in trails up there. My area is very boring and
you would not notice any and youwould notice any type of suspicious vehicles coming
in and around here unless they're sneakilydriving around mid two thousands, rusted out
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for to one f fifties. Becausethere's about three quarters of the vehicles out
here, are those mine included.I would really like to believe it was
some crazy, one off animal soundthat was just freakishly close to my tractor.
But a lot of these bigfoot theoriesare very similar to what I experienced.
I don't even want to think aboutskin walkers that some of you were
mentioning. Though last night was okay. There was no noises and the dogs
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stayed calm all night. Let metell you, though, I fell asleep
with a podcast playing just to distractmyself from the quiet. That's what I
would have done. Yeah, fuck, I wouldn't know yet the podcast anything
anything, any noise? Any noise? Isn't that oh hard pass? I've
heard enough. I don't even wantto say. I don't even want to
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say with that monster they have heardthat. If you even so much as
utter it, it like brings itto you. Living in the country myself,
I don't want to do that tomyself. I don't even want to
fucking repeat it. What I willsay is that a similar thing happened not
too long. I think it waslike last summer, maybe two summers ago.
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I heard what sounded like a womanscreaming in intervals for like way too
long at night. I recorded itas muffled through the window as I could,
and like put it up on Redditfor like what animals sound? Is
this or some shit or like identifythis animals Subpreddit. Of course it is
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a supred of everything. And peoplewere like, that is a female fox,
and I was like, no,And then I looked it up at
a saw video of it and ofsomebody else's recording of it, and lo
and behold, same exact sound.Most fucking terrified I have been in the
comfort of my own home. Animalsounds that you don't know are so scary.
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All this you don't even know theanimals make those noises. Again,
like the fox thing is like that, Like that right, it's that weird?
Like no, no, it's notthat, okay, because that's what
I was assuming you were talking about, was that like a weird laugh thing.
No, it sounded like a bloodcurdling woman's screams. And then distance
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and that's kind of again Like forme, I've heard this story before.
I've heard this in many variations.Be it I went on my float plane
to a fishing lodge in the middleof nowhere, and we're on a we're
on a lake, and we're secluded, and in the middle of the night
we hear things screaming. Yeah ateit. Yeah. But also you're in
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nature. Like again, like Idon't want to discount any of this,
because you're in nature. Is theanswer to what it could be and what
it wouldn't be. Essentially, like, you're in nature, so that's rather
expansive. But you're also in nature, which means it could just be something
that exists that we all know thatwe just don't. Yeah, I mean,
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well, now I want to describethat too. Again, like distance,
location, modulation, all kinds ofthings play into your ability to understand
and interpret and recognize something. Idon't know, if I heard a mountain
lion screaming, I wouldn't think itwas something else, because again, I've
never heard a mountain lion scream inreal life. I've only ever heard recordings.
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Right, there is something so supremelyuncomfortable about hearing it though yourself,
And like if knowing that whatever thisthing could potentially be which ninety nine percent
at the time is an animal.That one percent, that one percent real
real fucks with you. But nowI want to know what these like bigfoot
theories are that we're so convincing tohim. I mean, like because I've
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heard I've heard the other one,the other or other friendly mountain monster ones
before, which honestly, and thatwas where my brain first went, Like
that was my first thought. IsI guess that that thing that everybody says
never to talk about or think aboutthat one. But I've heard more so
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like that would make more sense withlike the child crying, I've heard that
more with like they mimic like humanvoices to lure people. That's what I've
heard. So but the big footone, I mean, yeah, I
heard that they would make like weirdnoises. But like I'm very curious what
were people saying that were so convincingthat it was bigfoot. Well, I
mean there are people on here thatare mentioning. You know, look at
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the BFRO, which is the BigfootResearch Organization, Like look at their information
about Mount Ida because again, likethis is a known place, which means
there will be known information, whichmeans people will have if there are big
foot sightings, they will have reportedthem, and per this person's comments,
there are big foot sidings on MountIda. So again, like, look,
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I feel like and this is youknow, this is something Jess and
I have talked about before, Andthis is something that again we you and
I haven't talked about cryptids a wholelot. We've kind of stayed in a
different realm of the world. ButI'm excited to talk about cryptids with you
because again I feel like, andI'm curious your take on this. Bigfoot
is kind of like an unfair catchall that, Like, I love Bigfoot,
Bigfoot is my cryptid of choice.But I feel like when people hear
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something out in the woods is likebigfoot, that's what it is. If
it's not something I can identify,it's bigfoot. And like if everything's bigfoot,
then nothing is big it's big foot. Yeah, that's fair. I
agree with that. I would notconsider bigfoot my cryptod of choice. I
feel like, for the memes,I have to say moth Man, but
I don't even think that's what Ihave to actually think about it. Mothman
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is a good one. We havethe direct line to the Mothman himself.
So I'm a fan of the mofman, but Bigfoot sees the man. Bigfoot
is the man, right, Idon't know. I don't know. I
feel like it's so not country.It's just because you want bigfoot in New
York. This big Foot takes NewYork. Look at that guy's feet,
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they're so big. I's just likewe got a big monkey. Okay,
you know what it's pronounced, monk, big monk. Look. I get
it, I mean, I getit. There is a twinge of the
good old bois and the middle.But that's the thing, like Bigfoot sightings
are everywhere there. There are probablyif we were to go look right now
on the bfro's website, I guaranteewithin one hundred miles of the two of
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us, they're Bigfoot sightings. Notthat I wouldn't assume that's surprising for either
one of us, frankly, butagain, if everything is bigfoot, then
what nothing is bigfoot then? Andthat's I don't know. Like I think
with this story, you do havesome things that elevate it automatically. You
have a real place. This personsounds genuine. Why would you make up
a story about yourself? Sleeping ina trailer. Not the most glamorous story
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to be telling, but you knowwhat, fucking vibe in a mood,
and I'm here for it, andI wish I could go stay in a
trailer on a mountain side somewhere.As terrifying as the shit sounds in this
story, that's one time when they'rehanging out in a place where they get
to breathe in fresh air and beout in the wilderness, which I do
appreciate, but it's the same point, like you don't have a way to
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protect yourself and you live in themiddle of nowhere. That is a recipe
for disaster, especially when you go, well, if the Wi Fi goes
out, I'm fucked. If Iget hurt, I'm fucked. If something
happens to the WiFi and I happento be hurt at the same time,
I guess I'm dead, Like okay, Like that's not great, man.
So I think less worry about Bigfootand more worry about getting something security cameras
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or something so that you don't haveto open the door to see outside,
because we do. We live ina time of technology. As they would
say, you could buy something tosee outside and not have to be outside.
It's called a ring doorbower solar powered. Yeah, they have them for
deers. They put them on adeer tree and it connects to your phone.
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Like, there you go, deers, or did you really just you
heard what I said? I pluralizedit. How could you be as I
can and A did and a dus? Look, I love Bigfoot, but
I think Bigfoot has gotten lost inBigfoot's own conversation because everything is Bigfoot now,
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Like if it's if it's a noisein the woods and there's not a
regional cryptid that's in those woods,it's Bigfoot. And so what do you
think this was? I mean,it's probably Bigfoot. I mean that's the
joke though, Like I wanted tosay, like the joke is though,
like this feels like a big Footsighting. But at the same time,
so do a lot of these.I'll say this much. There's a lot
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of things here that make me wonderthe proximity that this thing was to them,
because it sounds like it was likeon top of them, which yeah,
like why why the animal wouldn't dothat? I mean, well,
to be fair, this is theonly other thing that I could think of
and that is after hearing this soundof this like you know, cougar,
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as he says so adamantly, youknow, in the dark, in the
middle of nowhere for so long heis. I mean, you know,
like when you're listening to something outsideand something spooks you, like your adrenaline
gets kicked and your senses are heightened, and so now you're like hyper aware
of every sound around you. Soit might not have been as close as
he thought it was. He justinterpreted it as such. But that to
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be said, even if it wasn'tas close, I mean, even if
it was as close as he youknow, thinks it was. I mean,
there are tons of wild animals thatif like you're the only trailer in
the middle of nowhere, they'll cometruck and through. So well, do
you have a garbage can outside rightthere? I mean, do you have
a garbage that's open? I wouldhope not if you live in the middle
of nowhere, I would hope youknow about proper trash dis bosal when it
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comes to being out in the wild. Because as someone who was in the
Goddamn Boy Scouts, I can speakto sitting in a tent while camping on
a one hundred and twenty mile hikingtrip and hearing in the middle of the
night while the bear is outside jumpingfor the food that's being hung up in
the tree, and hearing a youknow, however, many hundred pound black
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or brown bear jumping to get thefood bag and I can hear it in
the middle of the night the restof the entire camp. Yeah, it's
fucking terrifying because I didn't know whatit was. In the night. All
I heard was that kind of Evenif I knew what it was, I'd
still be scared. When I askedin the morning, it was horrifying.
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I was like, they were like, so, you know what that noise
was last night, right, AndI was like, you know, oh,
and they were like, oh,it was a fucking bear jumping for
our bear bag because it had beenthe bare bag had been scratched too,
because you know again like so theywere like, well, the bear bag
has some scratches on it, soit was probably a there, and our
tents were well, I mean,you're supposed to keep your tent away from
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the food obviously, because it's supposedto be far away, but it's not
like it's like it's four fucking milesaway. It's maybe like the other side
of the camp side type scares me. Like, I get it. I
live in countryside, and a lotof people would argue I live in the
middle of nowhere. I mean Ilive in a neighborhood, so I don't
live in the middle of nowhere.But I mean we have tons of farms
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and shit. I will not campunless if it is like in a RV,
I'm not going to camp. I'mnot going to that's fair. I
had to do it once when Iwas at a sleepaway camp which we had
cabins, which is very different,but in a tent for pass. Do
you feel the same way about goingout into open water because that was something
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that always tripped Jess up, like, and I get it, but for
me, like I always wondered,and I've never asked Jess, but like
you have an aversion to camping,Do you have the similar version to like
going into open water, because youcan't like stay in open water the same
way really camp right, Not notreally? I mean, like define open
water like going out on a boatand getting off of the boat, because
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that's what camping is, right,Like camping is you're going out into it
and then you're in it for awhile, staying over night. But I
guess you could do that on aboat, But like, does that would
that bother you? Well? WhenI was in Hawaiio and snorkeling, so
I guess not. But I wasalso twelve, so I don't know if
my thoughts and feelings about it haschanged. But like similar, you know,
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we were out on a boat andthen they dropped us off somewhere to
like you know, they stopped theboat and we got out and we did
a little snarkle. I mean,I think it's one thing if I was
on a boat with like some likefucking randos and they were like, hey
you, it would be real fun. Let's just like fucking get out and
swim for like no reason. Andmaybe I wouldn't the same way that I
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wouldn't just go to like some unmarkedtrail, you know, right, so
you but you're not doing camping.You you wouldn't go camp at all?
Though? No, I mean like, hey, am, but let's go
camping, Like, let's go tents, we'll cook and everything, like it'll
be fun, it'll be fall weather, it'll be all of us out there.
You wouldn't even do that. Iwouldn't sleep there. I would go
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out. If you were like,there's this really awesome campsite and I wanted
to do like a bonfire, I'dbe like, sure, cool, it
sounds so fun. But like whatI like, I like that the limit
is I because you're still not sleepingthere. I get it. I get
it. It's too vulnerable. Iwith my arachnophobia, Chris, I get
it. I get it, understand. It's just it's funny that that's the
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line, because a bonfire would haveto be at night. It's the sleeping
that's the problem. This this yeah, it's the game. It's it's feeling
protected from a tent when all ofthe festivities have died down. My iractophobia
never it's quiet out there too.But I mean, like it's funny because
like growing up in the country,we were told like you know, relative
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you know, bear stuff like don'tlook it in the eyes kind of thing
like, but I was also toldlike don't be afraid, like during the
day they want nothing to do withyou. They just need to know that
you're there and they'll leave you alone. So like when I was, you
know, hiking, with a friend. We'd either be talking the whole time,
or one of us would be playingmusic on our phones to alert.
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There was also a really well traveledtrail, so most of the time you
would never see I've never seen evena deer anywhere near the trail, you
know, like a whole pack ofthem, a whole bunch of mainly mainly
the majority that I would see hereturtles and birds. That's about it.
But yeah, I mean I whenit comes to odd sounds in the wilderness
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at night, I'm I'm no strangerto the possibility of it. There was
also over the summer there was amysterious sound that at first sounded like a
dog barking, and it just wenton for way too long, and I
started doing like research because I waslike, is that like an owl or
some shit. I spent the nexthour researching owl sounds so I can match
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the fucking owl, and I didperfectly. I'll have to send that to
you because it was weird. Itwas a weird call. I'll have to
out to show you it was weird. It went on for it was a
couple of nights actually that we hadthis like this potentially one owl. I
guess in our nearby forest that Icould just hear it at like two am.
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I mean, yeah, I don'tknow how much you've looked into something
like the Jersey Devil. Yeah,I mean the Jersey Devil is supposedly like
an owl. Like people have justmisidentified an owl. I'm not shitting you,
like that's but I don't know.I found a video of an owl
during the day making the same soundas scary. No, not at all,
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and once I knew it was anowl, I was like, oh,
it's kind of cool. Owls arestill pretty scary. Yeah, but
I also don't live like right onthe forest. The forest is like fifty
one hundred feet yards. Oh no, that way, Like, I'm sure
like there is separation between my windowand the forest. And maybe if there
wasn't, maybe i'd feel differently.But we got a whole backyard separating it
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well, and that's all that mattersultimately is you don't have to worry about
something crawling in your window at night. Nah. I have my blinds open
all night because I live on secondfloor. I leave my blinds open helps
you wake up at a more normaltime. Love it, and so that
the big foot can see you throughthe windows? Better? Is that how
gig pick foots he's watching with hisbinoculars out of the distance. Hello,
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I see you. So until thenext time we do one of these,
Emma, you can find me.You can find you at the same place,
weirdingwaymedia dot com, where you canhear plenty of episodes of this show.
If you haven't heard all of them, you should, Emma hypnotize me
at one point. That was fun. You've never heard that? Yeah,
that was what that was around thistime last year, last year. Yeah,
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yeah, So that was fun ifyou're into that sort of thing.
And there's plenty of things to listento overwarding waightmedia dot com that have nothing
to do with this show. Sothat's where you should go for that.
For this show, Scary Stories wton all social media Scary Stories. If
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friend Alex Melanach provides that lovely musicyou hear at the beginning and the end
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as always, well, let ourgood friend, the former host of Sightings,
mister Tim White, lead us out. No mystery is closed to an
open mind.
We're a hello everyone, and welcometo get another episode of Scary Stories.
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I am one of your hosts,Chris Statue. Oh, and I'm the
other one. I'm a hello OkaWed introduce you every time. If you're
one of the hosts, you cando it yourself. You remember how to
do it? Go do it?You were your own host. At one
point, I was that's true.I was I should not do this here.
You're correct. Oh, I'm notany how, dare you now remember
I'm kidding ID, It's just beenso long, that's fair. Hey,
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you know what, though, we'redoing another our slash paranormal folks. Why
are we doing our slash paranormal Becausethe Internet is a fun place and people
on the Internet have interesting stories totell. Like always, a couple things
that we're going to be talking about. We will be mentioning the names of
the accounts and the account holders thatare posting these along with the up votes
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and downbotes and links in the episodedescription if you want to go and check
out these articles for yourself, andyou should, because guess what, there
aren't enough places on the Internet withuser created content about paranormal stuff. And
if you're into this, stuff.You're probably already there anyways, and you
know what I for once, I'mgoing to turn the floor over to somebody
else. And Emma, why don'tyou get us started on an our slash
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paranormal because it's been a minute sinceyou and I have done one of these
together. We know, and Ilove these so much, and you know
it's funny. This is the onething from my old show that I insisted
that we bring into this one becauseI knew there's so much funder record,
and I love hearing other people's stories. I love reacting to other people's stories.
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The cool thing about when I didthis on the old show is that
I had my co host, whoI believed to be much more of an
expert in the stuff than I am, to sort of rate whether or not
he thought it was, you know, legit, based off of his idea
of what he thinks is legit inthe world of paranormal. I am definitely
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no authority in that. So Ijust here to shoot the ship. You're
ready, I'm ready. Let's doit, all right? So this one
is by Creepy Dash total eight twofour one. My friends and I used
an Auigi board and a glass glassash tray, glass ash tray say that
for me, glass ash tray thatwas weird. My friends and I used
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and AUGI board and a glass ashtray busted in half. So when I
was in high school, my friendsand I were into a really spooky ship
that we had no business messing aroundwith. We would visit cemeteries at night,
go to our small town's local allhaunt spots to try to stir up
any urban legends. But the storyI'm about to tell made us quit cold
turkey try to seek out the paranormal. One night, we're over at our
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friend's century old home. I meanit was old and creaky and the perfect
setting for a night of awuiji.We brought it out and just for the
first half hour, nothing in sanehappened, just some movement from the planchet.
Then, feeling smug, I askedthe spirits what my middle name was.
The thing is, my middle nameis literally made up by my parents.
It's not a real name. Noone in the circle knew, let
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alone could spell my middle name.There was literally no way someone could even
guess it. But the board knewit spelled my middle name perfectly, and
I could feel my heart fall intomy gut. Keep in mind, my
hands were not on the planchet,so I couldn't have moved it myself.
Everyone laughed because what a silly middlename that would be, but I had
to confess that it was mine,and the color drained from everyone's face.
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All of a sudden, a glassashtray that was sitting a few feet away
on the coffee table split clean intoand we were done. We left the
house to go stay somewhere else,and fortunately I have never experienced anything that's
terrifying ever again, h boy,what are the as always? What are
the upboats? What are the downboats? And what do the comments have to
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say? Comments? The comments,I feel like are always a good barometer
here in the world of user creativecontent, especially these folks at our slash
Paranormal, because these folks are readingthis stuff every day, and I feel
like they're seeing so much of itthat they are always they're always on point.
The folks at our slash Parents,I'm gonna give them a shout out.
They know their ship in the comments. So what are what are they
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saying here? What's kind of theirtake on this? Well? This one's
four hundred up boats, that's prettygood, and I honestly just think it's
because it's entertained. In most ofthe time, I feel like they up
vote just because of the under dating, and then obviously downboats just sort of
even it out. It's not reallya separate count, right, But uh,
well, of course the most importantthing is people asking, well,
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what is your middle name? Now? I want to know, right,
yes, I dare you you willnever guess. I don't even know how
to pronounce this out loud? Isit all rich? It's not that I'm
gonna di spell it and then you'reyou're gonna tell me how you think it's
pronounced, because I have no earthlyclue. Okay, ready, Hey A
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D d L. That's it,cattle, That's what I'm thinking. But
I don't think that's right. Imean, it might be. I don't
know what what what is? Whatis that made up of? Like this
person is saying that this is acreation of their parents solely, So look,
I've never k a D D L. I've never seen that before.
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So that is a creation of theirparents. Look, I think again,
like anything else, if we assumethat they're on the level and they're being
honest, and they're being serious,and this is not a lark. This
is not some fucking terrifying right,I mean, oh, I mean again,
when it comes down to a coupleof questions, if you believe in
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spirits and spirit energy, do youbelieve that spirit energy can manipulate things?
Because like a glass ash tray,it could break, but you would have
to have it really hot and thenhave it be really cold afterwards, and
that would break it. But like, I don't think you can even break
one in your hand, Like Idon't think you could snap one in a
solid one. I'm imagining a heavyduty ash tray. I don't know about
you, Like, I mean,I haven't been around a lot of them.
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I'm expecting it's like a big glassash tray and that would not be
easy to break in half. Butthen it also makes me wonder, like
how often does something like that justhappen into paranormal stories? Like how common
is it for an item to notlike fall and break, but to just
simply break in place, which Iwould personally think is much more terrifying than
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something falling and breaking, because youcould say, like, oh, somebody
banged into a wall. Somebody jumpeda breeze, and you can't really explain
away an item that nobody is touchingsimply breaking in place that is terrifying.
It is so I, you knowwhat, I what? I you know.
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It's interesting though, because so thereason I picked this one specifically,
and I do have a reason whyI picked this one, is because I
think I've told you this story maybeon the podcast, maybe not feel like
I have, correct me if Ihave. But when I was for a
very brief time, I was apseudo counselor at a sleep away camp when
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I was like seventeen, And Isay pseudo because I was taking care of
like staff three year old. Iwasn't really a counselor, but I had
some friends there that were counselors andone of them had NOWEGI board and it
was like nighttime. They invited mein a couple of other people to like
go to this like creepy building,you know. I think it was got
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if I'm remembering correctly, I thinkit was like a like a dance like
auditorium or something like a big woodenfloor in a in a stage, and
basically like we sat on this woodenfloor, turned off the lights at night
just stead of summer, like fiveof us. Maybe he brings out this
Auigi board. He has like thiswhole system, Like he's using a lighter
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and like drawing a pentagram in theair with his flame and like says things
and tells us like the whole wholething. It was a true ritual.
I don't know whether or not itwas accurate ritual, but it sure was
a ritual. And I had touse an Awuiji board, and I was
like super lim. My sister hadone. Scared the shit out of me,
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but that's because I was little andeverything scared the shit out of me.
So I can't really say whether ornot we had a paranormal experience.
But this time they were asking alot of questions, Like we were all
sitting around, I have a handon the plan chet. Everybody was asking
questions. And then it was likemy turn. They were like, YO,
should ask something, and I was. I was an insecure asque kid,
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and basically what I had asked,almost similar was if I had lived
up to my middle name, sonot to spell my middle name, which
honestly would have been more convincing tome in the bullment. If they could
uh. It was my Hebrew name, which i'd sometimes consider like an offshoot
of my middle name adjacent. Itactually would have been really cool if I
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had them spell it, because it'sspelled b R A c cha, which
nobody would think. And it's justlike this guy's well, just like this
guy's middle name, right, likeyeah, person. So it means blessing,
which was given to me because mymom I had two miscarriages before me,
and so that's that's a big thingto live up to. And so
I was like, I'll ask thespirits if I lived up to being a
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blessing like my mother wanted. Iwas a very insecure seventeen year old,
and it said yes, And Ijust remember bursting into tears as if it
were just like this massive emotional experienceout of nowhere, not like sobbing,
but just like I was moved,like immediately moved, which I wouldn't say
is uncommon, but it was alittle weird how sudden it was. And
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so I was just like, oh, this is kind of similar, similar
experience. I felt a bit ofa kinship. Obviously that's much less convincing
to me. I wish i'd saidit spell my Hebrew name. Uh,
that would have been way more convincing. I kind of wish I did,
Honestly, looking back, I kindof wish that's what I asked instead,
and then I could have done thefollow up of did I love up to
it? I just wanted to hearit. I just needed to be reassured
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chloy is is that if it's isthe case, then everybody, you know,
nobody knew what the name was,because that's always the thing is like,
is somebody moving the planchet? Youknow? That's everybody. I mean,
that's it's it's a tacit agreement betweeneverybody that nobody wants to be disappointed
by it not doing anything. I'mnot saying a Wegi boards don't work,
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because I've been told by people whohave fucked around with them not to and
I don't think they're just saying thatfor thematic effect. But at the same
time, I don't think everybody it'slike anything else. It's like someone who
picks up a gun isn't going tonecessarily hit the target by pointing it and
shooting, just like someone picking upa Wegi board's not gonna necessarily commune with
the other side. Of the veiljust because they're moving the planchet around,
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you know. And I would hopethat that's the fucking case, because otherwise
it's a real big problem that there'sjust wegi boards out there where people can
do Oh I'm just communing. Ohyeah, great, like I fucking hope
not. Yeah. I mean,I think what I've heard in the past
is that it's not that the planchet itself moves, but it's that like
the energy is moving through like yourhands to guide it. So it is
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sort of like you're moving it,but you're not conscious of moving it.
Sor enough, I think, yeah, sure, or I could just you
know what proved to me that it'smoving. I'm going to take my hands
and sit on them, and youdo the same, and if it starts
moving, then it's moving on itsown. Otherwise we are still moving it,
you know, like, but Ithink like spiritual people acknowledge that it's
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not moving on its own. Ijust can't vouch for the explanation, but
I'm pretty sure there's some like energyexplanation that I've heard before that I can't
remember. I'm I'm less worried asto whether or not I'm moving it or
not, or whether or not themotions I'm moving it in are yielding anything
of value? Right, yeah,again, Like I again, I assume
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someone who knows what they're doing,because you don't just have a Weiji board
and that's it, like you're you'reusing it in tandem with other things.
Normally, if it's someone who knowswhat they're doing, they're not you know,
I'm not just sitting here with youon zoom going all right, I'm
moving my Weigi plan chet around andI'm doing it like there is a rhyme
and reason to it, which iswhy I think it's like giving most people
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a Rubik's cube and say solve thatand I'll give you a hundred dollars.
Most people go, I could beone hundred dollars poor and not care because
I already was like, I'm notgoing to fuck around with a Rubik's cube
because I don't understand how to makeit look the way it's supposed to be
solved anymore than I think people arefucking around with a Weiji board knowing what
they're doing. The people that arearen't doing it because I do think that
there is something to it. Ijust think most people are just oh,
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the energies moving through me. Yes, it is, I bet it is.
Yeah, I'm not trying to discountit. It's just everybody can go
buy a Weiji board. Then whyisn't everybody summoning something? That's a good
question, And I think that it'shappening more often than you think. But
then it's also like I hear,okay, I hear opposing things. I
hear like there's a correct way todo it, and then and there's an
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incorrect way to do it, andby there's a correct way to actually achieve
something with it, and a waythat like nothing will happen, and then
there's like the way to like closeit correctly and incorrectly, which is like
a whole other thing, but talkingspecifically of like the whole there is a
correct incorrect way to use an Awijiboard, which I think has to do
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with the whole like ritualistic aspect ofit and the setup and like some people
like you hold your breath for liketen seconds to show that you're revering the
fact that you're talking to people thatare that can't free I don't know,
I've heard like a lot of likeweird shit it's like turn off all the
lights and you want to make surethat there are candles. But then other
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people are like, all that mattersis that, like you very politely say
goodbye at the end. There areso many like weird rules and it makes
you wonder, like because there's somany people that are like, why why
is the spiritual apparent spiritual thing bebeing mass produced by Hasbro? And I
would argue, it's not the itemitself, but it's how we use the
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item. And I think anybody withthe right types of tools to help channel
something, it could be anything.I mean, there are people that print
out Auigi boards and give it thesame meaning and the same purpose. You
know, make a pinch and outof paper. It's less about the physicality
of it and more about the meaningyou assigned to it, the same way
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the people you know use terot cardsand use you know, like they're like
dowsing rods and pendulums. Like Ithink it's all the same thing. It's
just that like Auiji boards have areal bad rap. Well, they're also
very theatric it's very theatrical. Spellthis out it is dowsing spendulums. It's
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if it's going clockwise, it's yes. If it's going it's like that.
That's an analog, right, likeyes or no. Dowsing is similar,
like this is spell Like you saidtell me my middle name. I mean
that's this whole story is predicated ontell me Like, because you've told me
my middle name. Therefore, anythingthat happens from here on out is possibly
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intervened by some other spirit. Right, that's my assumption with this story.
Something has made its presence known byletting you know it knows something about you
that it could not know that itshould not know, and then it breaks
an ashtray? To what end ismy question to scare you? To stop
you from doing this warning? Imean, like there are a lot of
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I get angered it. It showedyou that it's powerful. But that's the
thing I would think a malicious spiritwould not warn you, like in the
Exorcist. It's not like Puzuzu warnedReagan and was like, hey, stop
doing that or I'm gonna possess you. I think I think a lot of
these things that we're seeing are peopleinteracting with positive of energy that's telling them
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like, you need to stop whatyou're doing now, because if I'm not
the one here. It could besomething else that's not as benevolent as I
might be. But again, likeyou can't even trust those spirits because as
I read in a book last year, God damn forget the name of it
now, you can't trust anything.On the other side, you can't trust
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what we don't know and what wecan't know. What literally that too,
right, Like if a spirit cameto me tomorrow saying it's my grandfather,
I'm not gonna fucking believe it's mygrandfather, No fucking way, even if
it told me everything he knew,any piece of like private information that only
he and I could have known.No fucking way what I believe it's my
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grandfather, my grandmother, anybody,because there's just no way to prove it,
right, and there's no way toprove it. But it's interesting that
nobody's like, you know, well, and I want to say everything I
want to say nobody, But likemost people in the spiritual community are very
ANTIWEGI words, but everybody is verypro terro cards obviously, Like if you
go onto like you know, religiouspeople, especially that the Christians calls,
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so they're like, I don't fuckwith any of it. It's all satan.
Don't fuck with it, you don'ttouch it. I don't know it's
funny because of the somebody that doesTaro there. I was also told earlyly
on, like you shouldn't touch anyof it because you don't know what you're
inviting into your life when you startdoing it. I haven't had any negative
experiences with it. I've been doingit quite a bit. I've done it
for many people, and I feellike, and a Weiji board is so
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similar in that regard, like thesame way, like you don't know what
you're communicating with. I don't knowwhy one gets the bad rap in the
other dostn I honestly think they bothget bad raps. I would say Taro
has a bad rap, you don'tthink. But not within the spiritual community,
that's okay. I mean Weji boards, a Weiji boards, everybody's like,
if you don't know exactly what you'redoing, do not fucking touch it.
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Even if you do know what you'redoing, don't fucking touch it.
But everybody's like, oh, Ijust got this really pretty new deck,
and it's like fine, And I'mone and I am one of those people.
But I think to your point,like, I think it is communing
with energy either way, whatever thatenergy is, be it morphous or a
morphous energy. I think that's that'sthe way I look at it. Like
Taro, I think is more interactingwith a morphous just energy in the world.
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And I think Auiji board is athere's an intent like people are doing
it with intent, right like mostpeople weigi boards like tell me my name,
give me a piece of information,I want to commune with my grandfather,
you know whoever. And it's likeyou're doing this and you're with Taro,
you're asking the universe to inform thecards that you're picking. I guess,
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or you're making an assumption about theway things are being presented to you.
Wigia is pretty cut and dry,like it can't do anything other than
that's fair. Give you a letter, and again, if it gives me
why ees in, Yes, yes, there is nothing I can interpret that
as. But if all of asudden it gives me ten letters that mean
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nothing, well, am I thensupposed to unscramble it? Is it like
a garbled message? Like that's theother thing, like assuming input in receives
input out. That is understandable too. Because again I'm assuming, what if
you talk to a spirit that's illiterate, or talk to a spirit that doesn't
speak English, that's fair, that'sa good point. Why do I assume
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that an illiterate ghost more though,I mean, I think it's interesting either
way to have whatever it is onthe other side be unable to respond,
but do something like again, likewhat would someone who's illiterate. I guess,
like it would just be garbled letters. I guess, yeah, if
it's another language, it's like theystart responding SI. See, I mean
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yeah, get it, like theyjust creake more ash Trays. I think
the idea that that's like something thathappened, that's like and then the ash
Tray broke. It's like, holyshit, get me the fly here.
Yeah, if that's what happened.If I was sitting down at this party
or whatever, let's gathering and Iwas like spelling middle name and it did,
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and then Ashtray brooke. I alsowould never fuck with anything spiritual for
the rest of my life. Ospell, get me the fuck out,
spell by bone everybody, like you'reI'm with you, Like, why even
contemplate another thing? Nah? Likeit. I think a lot of it
has to do with intention, youknow. I mean, something that you
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hear a lot is like just makesure that whatever you're talking to is of
love and light. You hear thata lot, love and light a lot
in the spiritual community. And it'slike, as it's interesting because people are
very much like, you need toset these boundaries because I guess everybody says,
like you never want to give demonspermission. Demons need permission, right
like evil things need permission. Sonever invite something in, never say like,
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please come into my house, You'rewelcome here, like the fucking Annabelle
dolls, Like you don't write whenthey're like and we invited the little girl
into our house because she was scared. It's like, what do you out
of your minds? Like, yes, you actually are out of your fucking
minds, or I like I kindof assume with Weigi like it's less,
you're just out of your depth andyou're not doing anything wrong. I don't
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think people. I don't think agroup of fifteen year old who pick up
a WIGI board and use it aredoing anything wrong. I think it's just
an immensely bad idea to fuck withthings that you don't understand, and in
a lot of ways, even thepeople who know what they're talking about still
can't explain explicitly is the case.It's more theoretically, if this were the
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case, this is what would happen. It's like, if you fuck with
weigi, something might happen. Whatis happening. We don't know how it's
happening. We don't know. Butsometimes when people do things with weigi boards,
ashtrays fucking break. Like I wouldn'tfuck with the Ouiji board knowing that
possibly shit could happen that is unexplainable. Like this just seems like a bad
idea, right, Okay. IfI was like, Hey, there's this
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like really cool event with like someguy that totally knows what he's doing,
and like you vetted him, likeyou knew Al's like and he's doing this
like interactive Owegia board, fucking Isaid, I could get us tickets for
free. No fuck you want?You want nothing to do with it.
I've been a curious I want.I mean again, even if he knows
what he's doing, it's it's ablind it's not double blind, but it's
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blind because he doesn't know what's onthe other side. Of whatever he's talking
to. He's talking through a oneway glass. That side can see us
clearly, it has to see somethingto respond to. But holy shit,
like, we don't know what's onthe other side. And so yeah,
if some guy's going, well,I can, I can guarantee talk to
the other side. It's like,you don't know what you're talking to.
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And even if you are told whatyou're talking to, buy what's talking to,
you don't believe it because it's,like you said, you can't prove
it. So no, I wouldnot. I think wegia boards, if
you know what you're doing in theright hands, you can actually create something
out of a piece of class anda piece of cardboard. Yeah, things
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throughout history have been less that havemeant more to people, like two pieces
of wood together. It's the samething, you know, ultimately, realistically,
does one even need a weiji boardto communicate? I think if you
sit long enough and it's quiet enough, and you quiet your mind enough,
and you just sit there, Ithink you can hear anything and hear all
kinds of wild shit just going onin the outer reaches of our perception,
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because it's not that hard to believe. But I think if you bring something
like that into your house, you'rekind of setting up a lightning rod or
an antenna as it were, tokind of I could see that quiet.
Yeah, you open a door,I don't want to fuck with it.
You don't want to open the door. I mean I do, but I
don't because I don't know what ifit gets opened. Is there a way
to close it? Probably not.Popular media would lead us to believe.
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Probably not as the case. So, so I have a story that has
nothing to do with exorcisms or ghostsor creepy weiji boards. It's a it's
a little bit more well, it'sa little bit more Canadian a So this
comes from fifteen days ago as postedby Kayden J. Peters. It has
one point one k up votes,which is a lot. That is a
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lot. It's got a little bitof a lead up, it's got a
little bit of a runway to it. So locational context, I live on
a farm on the side of amountain in the middle of nowhere in British
Columbia's interior, no cell service.Neighbors are beyond shouting distance, a very
on your own lifestyle out here.My trailer is at the top of this
property, next to a barn,surrounded three hundred and sixty degrees with forest
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except for the little road. Themountain mount Ida has a long history with
the Aboriginal people of my area.I've been told stories of the mountains since
i was a kid. Basically thesummary of every story is people are banished
from the mountain because the spirits makeit too dangerous. All sorts of weird
things have been seen and have happenedon this mountain. Last night, around
ten forty five, I heard threesets of sirens rushed by the road out
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here. You never hear sirens inmy at of fifteen years here. I've
heard one siren, and it wasearlier this week. Basically, it just
intrigued me at this point. Wasn'tuntil about a half an hour later so
and my power cuts out. I'malready in bed at this point lights were
out. Only way I actually noticedwas because I had no WiFi. Now
that's always a hard stopper, becauseno WiFi out here means I'm entirely on
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my own. This makes me anxious, for sure, but I'm more worried
that I won't be able to callthe fire department if something catches on fire
more than anything, like the middleinline. I like the practicality of this
person, I really do or geta satellite phone, or get a land
line. Yeah, but if they'rein the middle of nowhere, there's no
way to get them a land line. So it's like they're in the middle.
They're in a trailer in the middleof They said they're in the middle
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of nowhere on a mountain. Theydid say that they could probably find a
way to get the lamb. Areyou are you thinking that they're being hyperbolic
about how in the middle of nowherethey are? No, I just I
don't understand landlines, but I haveone. Still, clearly you know that
the land line and has to likea pole carries it to you. No,
I don't know anything. I justknow that I have one. Oh
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my god, how does this work? This one? And guess what,
when the power goes out, youcan still use it? Really? Oh
yeah, how I don't know howit works. I could ask my dad
that someday, every time that we'vehad the pot when we don't have a
generator, we've been crying for agenerator for my entire heck in life.
And all I know is that thering doesn't work or has like a weird
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ring that's like a different ring whenthe power goes out. It's really weird.
What are we doing? We don'teven know. We're such fucking millennials.
We don't even understand phones anymore.I mean, I have we ever
did? Be Now? It's convenient, all right, it's always convenient,
right well, I being lumped inwith millennials. They get so much shit.
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I don't about that, Yeah,I hear you. So anyways,
back to our friend on the mountThen, out of nowhere, I heard
this super sharp and loud cry,like a kid who just crashed on a
bike, hysterical crying from what soundsto be a young child. My dogs
are going absolutely nuts at the door. Now, if you're familiar with cougars
slash mountain lions, you should knowthat they can often mimic a child crying
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and scary accurately too. So lyingthere, as tension builds, I'm telling
myself it's cougar, that's all.It's just a cougar. For me,
it's the best case scenario right nowthat it's just a cougar. Dogs have
finally calmed down, and I'm juststill trying to get some shut eye when
I hear the second sound. Thiswas an ungodly sound that I've never heard
in my life. This sounded likea mix of every horror movie monster all
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in one. I can't even describeit. It was about five seconds of
pure screeching, like a demonic bansheewith the vocal cords of a t Rex.
The base to it shook my bed. It was as if there was
a concert sized sound system hiding inthe forest blasting zombie vomit. I could
taste my heartbeat at this point.My dogs are acting like rabies written pit
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bowls towards the door, snarling andgrowling like whatever just screamed was on the
other side of the door. Ididn't know what to do at this point.
Couldn't call or get in contact withanyone. Lights are all off.
I'm just lying there in the dark, utterly and completely scared. It was
not about to get up and goinvestigate. It's in the middle of winter,
of course. Two I just liedthere, checking my phone every thirty
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seconds seeing if the Wi Fi cameback. Nothing else came after though,
just ended up falling asleep at somepoint. As of this morning, everything
is back to normal, nothing creepygoing on. Powerback on made a post
in the local FB group. Nobodyelse in the area heard anything and only
a few lost power as well asme. So take it as you will.
Cougar and heat, Bigfoot coming outof hibernation, thousand year old native
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ghosts trying to get me off hisland. I'm not a very paranormal guy,
and no idea what it could havebeen at this point. Would love
to hear your thoughts, ideas andor questions. Now now I will mention
this one comes with an update,which is the rarity. We haven't had
one that has an update in theposting. So update, time to update
and answer a few questions and ideasfrom everyone. So she give us a
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little bit of a our idea,maybe some what other people are talking about.
So to start, it has beenconfirmed the sirens in the power was
due to a motor vehicle incident intoa power poll a kilometer or so down
the road. Strangely enough, Ihave also found out that other siren a
week ago so was someone responding toan MVI but in almost the exact same
spot. Motor vehicle incident. I'massuming then take that as you will.
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I also decided to open read itfor the first time to see all the
comments at about one in the morning. Terrible idea. You guys have all
scared the crap out of me evenmore. I mean, yeah, no
shit, I mean it sounds scaryas it is. General update, Yes
to everyone mentioning it. I dohave a generator problem is it's up in
the barn along with the Wi Firouter. Definitely was not going to even
open my bedroom door, let alonego outside after hearing that and go into
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the dark and creepy barn, soscrew around with the generator. I have
checked around the walkable vicinity. Notracks or anything of interest that I found,
although I did not want to gosearching through the forest for tracks to
be completely honest. Double smartys forgun protect and I would absolutely love to
have a gun for this exact reason, but it's a hassle in Canada,
and even if I did decide tomorrowwas the day, it's a long process
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and I probably wouldn't even have agun until next winter, so that won't
help me. Now. It's auniquely Canadian problem, isn't it. It
is, and I don't know oddlycomforting to hear somebody can't get a gun
immediately, but worse scenario for it, I guess right, cougar. As
I said, the first one wasdefinitely a cougar. In my opinion,
I have heard many cougars throughout mylife, and they've made a lot of
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weird noises. But that's second one. I just have a tough time accepting
that noise as a cougar in thedefense of it being a cougar. And
heat, though the weather has beenabsurdly strange and very warm, It's usually
about negative fifteen this time of yearI hope. Don't know if celsias or
fahrenheit, but it's sitting at aroundzero these past few weeks. This could
cause animals, including cougars, thinkingit's spring, concluding to some weird behavior
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Government lab question mark. I haveto, unfortunately say this is most likely
not the case. I have exploreda lot of the mountain as trails in
my back forty going to Crown Landand up to the rest of the mountain.
It's just logging in trails up there. My area is very boring and
you would not notice any and youwould notice any type of suspicious vehicles coming
in and around here unless they're sneakilydriving around mid two thousands, rusted out
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for to one f fifties. Becausethere's about three quarters of the vehicles out
here, are those mine included.I would really like to believe it was
some crazy, one off animal soundthat was just freakishly close to my tractor.
But a lot of these bigfoot theoriesare very similar to what I experienced.
I don't even want to think aboutskin walkers that some of you were
mentioning. Though last night was okay. There was no noises and the dogs
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stayed calm all night. Let metell you, though, I fell asleep
with a podcast playing just to distractmyself from the quiet. That's what I
would have done. Yeah, fuck, I wouldn't know yet the podcast anything
anything, any noise? Any noise? Isn't that oh hard pass? I've
heard enough. I don't even wantto say. I don't even want to
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say with that monster they have heardthat. If you even so much as
utter it, it like brings itto you. Living in the country myself,
I don't want to do that tomyself. I don't even want to
fucking repeat it. What I willsay is that a similar thing happened not
too long. I think it waslike last summer, maybe two summers ago.
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I heard what sounded like a womanscreaming in intervals for like way too
long at night. I recorded itas muffled through the window as I could,
and like put it up on Redditfor like what animals sound? Is
this or some shit or like identifythis animals Subpreddit. Of course it is
(33:40):
a supred of everything. And peoplewere like, that is a female fox,
and I was like, no,And then I looked it up at
a saw video of it and ofsomebody else's recording of it, and lo
and behold, same exact sound.Most fucking terrified I have been in the
comfort of my own home. Animalsounds that you don't know are so scary.
(34:06):
All this you don't even know theanimals make those noises. Again,
like the fox thing is like that, Like that right, it's that weird?
Like no, no, it's notthat, okay, because that's what
I was assuming you were talking about, was that like a weird laugh thing.
No, it sounded like a bloodcurdling woman's screams. And then distance
(34:28):
and that's kind of again Like forme, I've heard this story before.
I've heard this in many variations.Be it I went on my float plane
to a fishing lodge in the middleof nowhere, and we're on a we're
on a lake, and we're secluded, and in the middle of the night
we hear things screaming. Yeah ateit. Yeah. But also you're in
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nature. Like again, like Idon't want to discount any of this,
because you're in nature. Is theanswer to what it could be and what
it wouldn't be. Essentially, like, you're in nature, so that's rather
expansive. But you're also in nature, which means it could just be something
that exists that we all know thatwe just don't. Yeah, I mean,
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well, now I want to describethat too. Again, like distance,
location, modulation, all kinds ofthings play into your ability to understand
and interpret and recognize something. Idon't know, if I heard a mountain
lion screaming, I wouldn't think itwas something else, because again, I've
never heard a mountain lion scream inreal life. I've only ever heard recordings.
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Right, there is something so supremelyuncomfortable about hearing it though yourself,
And like if knowing that whatever thisthing could potentially be which ninety nine percent
at the time is an animal.That one percent, that one percent real
real fucks with you. But nowI want to know what these like bigfoot
theories are that we're so convincing tohim. I mean, like because I've
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heard I've heard the other one,the other or other friendly mountain monster ones
before, which honestly, and thatwas where my brain first went, Like
that was my first thought. IsI guess that that thing that everybody says
never to talk about or think aboutthat one. But I've heard more so
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like that would make more sense withlike the child crying, I've heard that
more with like they mimic like humanvoices to lure people. That's what I've
heard. So but the big footone, I mean, yeah, I
heard that they would make like weirdnoises. But like I'm very curious what
were people saying that were so convincingthat it was bigfoot. Well, I
mean there are people on here thatare mentioning. You know, look at
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the BFRO, which is the BigfootResearch Organization, Like look at their information
about Mount Ida because again, likethis is a known place, which means
there will be known information, whichmeans people will have if there are big
foot sightings, they will have reportedthem, and per this person's comments,
there are big foot sidings on MountIda. So again, like, look,
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I feel like and this is youknow, this is something Jess and
I have talked about before, Andthis is something that again we you and
I haven't talked about cryptids a wholelot. We've kind of stayed in a
different realm of the world. ButI'm excited to talk about cryptids with you
because again I feel like, andI'm curious your take on this. Bigfoot
is kind of like an unfair catchall that, Like, I love Bigfoot,
Bigfoot is my cryptid of choice.But I feel like when people hear
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something out in the woods is likebigfoot, that's what it is. If
it's not something I can identify,it's bigfoot. And like if everything's bigfoot,
then nothing is big it's big foot. Yeah, that's fair. I
agree with that. I would notconsider bigfoot my cryptod of choice. I
feel like, for the memes,I have to say moth Man, but
I don't even think that's what Ihave to actually think about it. Mothman
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is a good one. We havethe direct line to the Mothman himself.
So I'm a fan of the mofman, but Bigfoot sees the man. Bigfoot
is the man, right, Idon't know. I don't know. I
feel like it's so not country.It's just because you want bigfoot in New
York. This big Foot takes NewYork. Look at that guy's feet,
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they're so big. I's just likewe got a big monkey. Okay,
you know what it's pronounced, monk, big monk. Look. I get
it, I mean, I getit. There is a twinge of the
good old bois and the middle.But that's the thing, like Bigfoot sightings
are everywhere there. There are probablyif we were to go look right now
on the bfro's website, I guaranteewithin one hundred miles of the two of
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us, they're Bigfoot sightings. Notthat I wouldn't assume that's surprising for either
one of us, frankly, butagain, if everything is bigfoot, then
what nothing is bigfoot then? Andthat's I don't know. Like I think
with this story, you do havesome things that elevate it automatically. You
have a real place. This personsounds genuine. Why would you make up
a story about yourself? Sleeping ina trailer. Not the most glamorous story
(39:00):
to be telling, but you knowwhat, fucking vibe in a mood,
and I'm here for it, andI wish I could go stay in a
trailer on a mountain side somewhere.As terrifying as the shit sounds in this
story, that's one time when they'rehanging out in a place where they get
to breathe in fresh air and beout in the wilderness, which I do
appreciate, but it's the same point, like you don't have a way to
(39:23):
protect yourself and you live in themiddle of nowhere. That is a recipe
for disaster, especially when you go, well, if the Wi Fi goes
out, I'm fucked. If Iget hurt, I'm fucked. If something
happens to the WiFi and I happento be hurt at the same time,
I guess I'm dead, Like okay, Like that's not great, man.
So I think less worry about Bigfootand more worry about getting something security cameras
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or something so that you don't haveto open the door to see outside,
because we do. We live ina time of technology. As they would
say, you could buy something tosee outside and not have to be outside.
It's called a ring doorbower solar powered. Yeah, they have them for
deers. They put them on adeer tree and it connects to your phone.
(40:06):
Like, there you go, deers, or did you really just you
heard what I said? I pluralizedit. How could you be as I
can and A did and a dus? Look, I love Bigfoot, but
I think Bigfoot has gotten lost inBigfoot's own conversation because everything is Bigfoot now,
(40:28):
Like if it's if it's a noisein the woods and there's not a
regional cryptid that's in those woods,it's Bigfoot. And so what do you
think this was? I mean,it's probably Bigfoot. I mean that's the
joke though, Like I wanted tosay, like the joke is though,
like this feels like a big Footsighting. But at the same time,
so do a lot of these.I'll say this much. There's a lot
(40:50):
of things here that make me wonderthe proximity that this thing was to them,
because it sounds like it was likeon top of them, which yeah,
like why why the animal wouldn't dothat? I mean, well,
to be fair, this is theonly other thing that I could think of
and that is after hearing this soundof this like you know, cougar,
(41:12):
as he says so adamantly, youknow, in the dark, in the
middle of nowhere for so long heis. I mean, you know,
like when you're listening to something outsideand something spooks you, like your adrenaline
gets kicked and your senses are heightened, and so now you're like hyper aware
of every sound around you. Soit might not have been as close as
he thought it was. He justinterpreted it as such. But that to
(41:37):
be said, even if it wasn'tas close, I mean, even if
it was as close as he youknow, thinks it was. I mean,
there are tons of wild animals thatif like you're the only trailer in
the middle of nowhere, they'll cometruck and through. So well, do
you have a garbage can outside rightthere? I mean, do you have
a garbage that's open? I wouldhope not if you live in the middle
of nowhere, I would hope youknow about proper trash dis bosal when it
(42:00):
comes to being out in the wild. Because as someone who was in the
Goddamn Boy Scouts, I can speakto sitting in a tent while camping on
a one hundred and twenty mile hikingtrip and hearing in the middle of the
night while the bear is outside jumpingfor the food that's being hung up in
the tree, and hearing a youknow, however, many hundred pound black
(42:22):
or brown bear jumping to get thefood bag and I can hear it in
the middle of the night the restof the entire camp. Yeah, it's
fucking terrifying because I didn't know whatit was. In the night. All
I heard was that kind of Evenif I knew what it was, I'd
still be scared. When I askedin the morning, it was horrifying.
(42:43):
I was like, they were like, so, you know what that noise
was last night, right, AndI was like, you know, oh,
and they were like, oh,it was a fucking bear jumping for
our bear bag because it had beenthe bare bag had been scratched too,
because you know again like so theywere like, well, the bear bag
has some scratches on it, soit was probably a there, and our
tents were well, I mean,you're supposed to keep your tent away from
(43:04):
the food obviously, because it's supposedto be far away, but it's not
like it's like it's four fucking milesaway. It's maybe like the other side
of the camp side type scares me. Like, I get it. I
live in countryside, and a lotof people would argue I live in the
middle of nowhere. I mean Ilive in a neighborhood, so I don't
live in the middle of nowhere.But I mean we have tons of farms
(43:25):
and shit. I will not campunless if it is like in a RV,
I'm not going to camp. I'mnot going to that's fair. I
had to do it once when Iwas at a sleepaway camp which we had
cabins, which is very different,but in a tent for pass. Do
you feel the same way about goingout into open water because that was something
(43:46):
that always tripped Jess up, like, and I get it, but for
me, like I always wondered,and I've never asked Jess, but like
you have an aversion to camping,Do you have the similar version to like
going into open water, because youcan't like stay in open water the same
way really camp right, Not notreally? I mean, like define open
water like going out on a boatand getting off of the boat, because
(44:09):
that's what camping is, right,Like camping is you're going out into it
and then you're in it for awhile, staying over night. But I
guess you could do that on aboat, But like, does that would
that bother you? Well? WhenI was in Hawaiio and snorkeling, so
I guess not. But I wasalso twelve, so I don't know if
my thoughts and feelings about it haschanged. But like similar, you know,
(44:30):
we were out on a boat andthen they dropped us off somewhere to
like you know, they stopped theboat and we got out and we did
a little snarkle. I mean,I think it's one thing if I was
on a boat with like some likefucking randos and they were like, hey
you, it would be real fun. Let's just like fucking get out and
swim for like no reason. Andmaybe I wouldn't the same way that I
(44:51):
wouldn't just go to like some unmarkedtrail, you know, right, so
you but you're not doing camping.You you wouldn't go camp at all?
Though? No, I mean like, hey, am, but let's go
camping, Like, let's go tents, we'll cook and everything, like it'll
be fun, it'll be fall weather, it'll be all of us out there.
You wouldn't even do that. Iwouldn't sleep there. I would go
(45:14):
out. If you were like,there's this really awesome campsite and I wanted
to do like a bonfire, I'dbe like, sure, cool, it
sounds so fun. But like whatI like, I like that the limit
is I because you're still not sleepingthere. I get it. I get
it. It's too vulnerable. Iwith my arachnophobia, Chris, I get
it. I get it, understand. It's just it's funny that that's the
(45:37):
line, because a bonfire would haveto be at night. It's the sleeping
that's the problem. This this yeah, it's the game. It's it's feeling
protected from a tent when all ofthe festivities have died down. My iractophobia
never it's quiet out there too.But I mean, like it's funny because
like growing up in the country,we were told like you know, relative
(45:59):
you know, bear stuff like don'tlook it in the eyes kind of thing
like, but I was also toldlike don't be afraid, like during the
day they want nothing to do withyou. They just need to know that
you're there and they'll leave you alone. So like when I was, you
know, hiking, with a friend. We'd either be talking the whole time,
or one of us would be playingmusic on our phones to alert.
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There was also a really well traveledtrail, so most of the time you
would never see I've never seen evena deer anywhere near the trail, you
know, like a whole pack ofthem, a whole bunch of mainly mainly
the majority that I would see hereturtles and birds. That's about it.
But yeah, I mean I whenit comes to odd sounds in the wilderness
(46:45):
at night, I'm I'm no strangerto the possibility of it. There was
also over the summer there was amysterious sound that at first sounded like a
dog barking, and it just wenton for way too long, and I
started doing like research because I waslike, is that like an owl or
some shit. I spent the nexthour researching owl sounds so I can match
(47:09):
the fucking owl, and I didperfectly. I'll have to send that to
you because it was weird. Itwas a weird call. I'll have to
out to show you it was weird. It went on for it was a
couple of nights actually that we hadthis like this potentially one owl. I
guess in our nearby forest that Icould just hear it at like two am.
(47:30):
I mean, yeah, I don'tknow how much you've looked into something
like the Jersey Devil. Yeah,I mean the Jersey Devil is supposedly like
an owl. Like people have justmisidentified an owl. I'm not shitting you,
like that's but I don't know.I found a video of an owl
during the day making the same soundas scary. No, not at all,
(47:52):
and once I knew it was anowl, I was like, oh,
it's kind of cool. Owls arestill pretty scary. Yeah, but
I also don't live like right onthe forest. The forest is like fifty
one hundred feet yards. Oh no, that way, Like, I'm sure
like there is separation between my windowand the forest. And maybe if there
wasn't, maybe i'd feel differently.But we got a whole backyard separating it
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well, and that's all that mattersultimately is you don't have to worry about
something crawling in your window at night. Nah. I have my blinds open
all night because I live on secondfloor. I leave my blinds open helps
you wake up at a more normaltime. Love it, and so that
the big foot can see you throughthe windows? Better? Is that how
gig pick foots he's watching with hisbinoculars out of the distance. Hello,
(48:38):
I see you. So until thenext time we do one of these,
Emma, you can find me.You can find you at the same place,
weirdingwaymedia dot com, where you canhear plenty of episodes of this show.
If you haven't heard all of them, you should, Emma hypnotize me
at one point. That was fun. You've never heard that? Yeah,
that was what that was around thistime last year, last year. Yeah,
(49:00):
yeah, So that was fun ifyou're into that sort of thing.
And there's plenty of things to listento overwarding waightmedia dot com that have nothing
to do with this show. Sothat's where you should go for that.
For this show, Scary Stories wton all social media Scary Stories. If
you find it on iTunes, like, rate and review the show big thanks
as always to Maggie the Odd andDustin Retledge for the album artwork. You
can find Maggie on the internet atDolan Museum and as always, our good
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friend Alex Melanach provides that lovely musicyou hear at the beginning and the end
of the show. You can findhim over on Spotify just search Blondo and
as always, well, let ourgood friend, the former host of Sightings,
mister Tim White, lead us out. No mystery is closed to an
open mind.
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