June 23, 2022 • 41 mins
Mike and Gus preview the 2022 NBA Draft!
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Welcome to the Screen, The Screenor College Basketball Podcast with your hosts,
Mike Randall and Gus Kerns. Welcomeand listeners, Welcome to the Screen,
The Screen or College Basketball Podcast.NBA Draft two thousand and two. Addition,
thank you for choosing us to keepyou company on Thursday, which is
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a draft day. Like Mike,I'm pretty excited about this. You could
have spent your time with anybody else, but you chose to be here with
Mike and Gus, so we appreciatethat. Mike, we go way back
in the draft, so I'm kindof excited just to kind of kick it
a little old school here and talkabout what some of our beliefs are and
then you know where we might findsome some movers and shakers, risers and
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followers way back in the draft.Guys, let me tell you, gust
and I have known each other.God I want to see so seven to
twelve thirteen, probably they're thirty plusyears. No, you're gonna date us
here a little bit is what.I don't freak care. I don't think
you care. Thirty plus years.Guys. We used to use to come
to my house somebody's said his house, and we would make a board and
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write the numbers in and of coursemy favorite one of all time Gus was
ninety three with Webber and Partaway.I mean that was just not Saturday,
but we love it. It's great. I can't wait. I've been diving
into the numbers for god knows howlong. I'm lighting Twitter on fire because
I think Johnny Davis will go topten. So I'm ready to go.
I can't wait. And I wantto hear your thoughts because we've been texting,
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we haven't sat down and talk aboutit. So many great things.
Let's dive into it, Okay.Yeah, I think the first place that
we need to start is definitely withthe top three. There seems to be
a consensus top three for the NBADraft this particular season two thousand, twenty
two edition. Mike, I thinkthat it's gonna go Jabari Chet and then
Polo, And I know there's beensome movement with Polo maybe fluctuating and getting
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some juice for lack of a betterword, at number one or number two.
Where do you kind of see thingsand where do you maybe word do
you see value? Yeah, Ijust think you have to decide if you
want to do this When people askI believe in trying to predict what's going
to happen. A lot of peoplegive you their own opinion. Savasini's wonderful
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he gave. He gave a padia. They said, this is what we
think should happen. I'm going togive you what I think will happen.
Now. I've been on record aboutChet Holmgren. I think chet Holmgren is
going to have a very long careerin the NBA. I think he's going
to be a multi time All Star. I just wouldn't pick him at number
one. I actually have him goutat number two, so I don't think
like I'm dropping him that far.The chet apologist of I'm a bashing chet
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Holman. I have number two overallin the draft my attitude really quick,
and then give me a top three. I have said Jabari, no matter
what I did, bet it.I bet on Draft Kings was plus one
hundred about six weeks ago. Iam on Jabari. My argument is this,
he is six ten, he istoo twenty. He played in the
SEC. He led the SEC championAuburn Tigers and scoring end three point percentage,
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good motor, second on the teamin rebounding seven and a half rebounds
per game. He was at plusone hundred. It dropped to minus two
seventy five, which means you gottwo five bucks to one one hundred.
It started going the other direction.Now it's back again over minus two hundred.
I don't know what it is.I think Gus it's because he's not
charismatic. I think they want likea remember Baker Mayfield with the brand.
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He's not that guy. But I'lltell you this. He played on our
bird, he dominated on our bird. He's eight, he's super young,
nineteen years one month. What's notto like? I have him first,
I would agree. I think itwould be hard to pass up the cross
section of athleticism, shooting, size, at the age you mentioned. I
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think all of those things point tohim being a very valuable commodity at the
number one pick. I think thething that maybe stands out with him the
most is the combination of the lengthand the accurate shooting. You could make
an argument in this draft he's atop three shooter. Normally we would reserve
that for a wing player, maybeeven our point guard. We're talking about
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your small forward or your power photohere. So if you're going to get
the best shooter in the draft who'salso six ten and has shown that he
can move around the floor and iswilling to effort on the defensive end and
guard multipositions. I'm not saying he'sexcellent at it, but he's willing the
effort. Yeah, I'm in withthat. That sounds okay. And I'd
like to thank you, buddy fornot ripping me apart because a lot of
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people have made Jabari Smith comparable JonathanIsaac, who I was technically very against.
Yes, yes, of course,but thank you for passing on that.
My number two is Cheed Holmgren.Oklahoma City has been very tight lipped
about as always as always about whatthey're going to do. Listen, I
think there is a very logical reasonto take at Homegren one. I see
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what people see, which is hethe upside. I get it. I
get the whole thing. I don'tthink he's durant. Some people have said
he can develop that. I don'tsee that. But I have no problem
if you think he can put onweight, gets stronger, and obviously he
has guards skill. I get it. I just don't understand why he has
upside and the kid who is eighteenyears old for most of the year,
leading Norburn and scoring and rebounding,doesn't. I don't know why why Smith
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is at his ceiling and Chet isn't. But I think Chet's going too.
I don't think they're taking Palo numbertwo. I think Paulo's going too.
The Rockets. I've had questions aboutPaulo. I loved him in game run.
I texted you and our friends fromthe Bucks talking about how great he
was, and then I just didn'tsee him a little bit, you know,
let the game come to me.But Paulo Bancaro is six ten,
he's outside, he can handle.I get it. They got rid of
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Christian Wood, so certainly that makestotal sense. I think Chet's number two
to Oklahoma City. He fits theyouth move in twenty years, one month,
defense, the whole thing, thirtynine percent, three point range fine,
and I have Boncarro three. Whatdo you think I would agree completely
with both of those. I thinkChet Homegren fits the OKC profile as unique
talent that maybe they would feel likethey needed to dig up like they usually
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would do, like let's just throwup Josh Giddy out there. But Chet,
they have the two picks, Sowhy not go with the most unique
talent and that's definitely Chet Homegren Andyou mentioned Polo. Polo might be you
know, the most game ready ofthe three of them, Like you could
see him coming in and being ona starting lineup, maybe a little quicker
than the first two. But likeyou mentioned long term and you ask the
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question, Mike of why do peoplethink that you know, Jabari has hit
the ceiling and why Chet has stillus potential? That just goes back to
the weight issue. That's why thatthat that that questioning or that verbiage is
thrown around with those two players,especially in the same conversation. So I
mean if you come in rail thinlike you know, like Chet has so
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did yeah us like Jannis came inreal th that's fair and got his you
know, got hit, got pushedaround and got lessons taught to him early.
So is Chet ready to take thattype of you know, education where
he's gonna get pushed around. Ithink he. I think he is.
I just think you can go onsocial media and get anything you want.
Now are now people are holding JabbarSmith's size again. So because he's built
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now, he doesn't have upside right, you know, And I'm a little
lower in Chet than you, butI'm not passing on chet Holmberg with the
second pick. I think he isa very solid piece of a winning team
in the NBA. I think he'sa future All Star. So no argument
here. I'm fine with it.By Carol, by the way, a
couple of nuggets for you. Refusedto work out for the Magic twice.
I mean that that doesn't make Imean, so you could steam all you
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want guys, Like, why wouldthe Magic want him if he refuses to
work out for them twice? Rightnow, Gus, I'm on Draft Kings.
That that by way, that that'sa hollow power move right there,
right, power move? That's greatand you're you're not going first? Uh
you know, Oh you didn't workout for us? We want you more?
Just doesn't work. Here you go, Gus, right now. Draft
Kings updated tonight. Jabari spits downminus four fifty to go first, and
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I don't. As we get closerthings do league he's minus four fifty m
Boncaro is plus three eighty. Boncarrowas down to plus two hundreds, so
there was some steam going. Buthe's yeah, I noticed that earlier in
the week. Yeah, yeah,Now it's plus three eight Chad homegrens to
plus five fifty. But for thenumber two pick us Chad home Grin minus
three thirty, yeah, and thenBoncarro's plus three fifty, and then Boncarro
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for the third pick is minus fourhundred. So it certainly seems like that's
the way it's going to go.And just you know, this is one
of my favorite parts of the draftis to just do like some some simple
comps. We won't go super deephere, but if you're going to compare
Jabari to somebody, you might justlook into like the Magic's past and it
might be like a Rashad Lewis typeplayer, maybe a little bit more skilled
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chet I like the comparison with BrandonIngram slight multi skilled, had to find
his way. Maybe the second teamthat he's on. If Oklahoma City like
sours on him, that's where heblossoms. And then with Polo, maybe
Tobias Harris with a couple of moreinches and a little better shooter. You're
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good at this. That's good,all right? So those those are those
are the top three comps that wehave out there. What do you want?
What do you want to hit onnext year, Mike, Well,
let's go next to let's let's justgo to four or five real quick.
Okay, Yeah, So if theKings keep this pick at, I'm just
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giggling because I think the Kings willdo something silly, right, the Kings
being Kings, right right right,If the Kings keep it, I don't
know why I believe this. Imean, it comes down to what your
gut says. I do think they'regonna take Keegan Murray. I believe they
took him at the dinner. Now, they didn't work out Jade Nivey,
but that doesn't matter because they didn'twork David Mitchell out either. So I'm
not going by that. But Ikind of buy that because he's a bigger
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player. He could guard fours.His defense was better than people realize.
He was ranked number seven overall inthe Big Ten and defense. I know
he gambles for steels A lot oftimes. You saw him going for steals
and he's gotten beat back door.I get that, but he's not a
horrific defender, particularly in the post. At the numbers have graded out.
I was really impressed with his scoringand Iowa, we saw some big games
by him took a huge lead.If someone trades up to four, they're
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trading up for Ivy, They're nottrading up for Keegan Murray. So if
the only way I hit on theKegan Murray number four, which I have
a little slight stuff right now,is if the Kings picked the pick,
keep the pick and do the Kingstuff right now, Gus fourth overall pick
draft Kings, Jay and Ivy minusone seventy five, Kegan Murray plus one
forty five. So a little closer, it's worth it's worth a look.
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But I mean, if you're ifit depends on where you are with Ivy
too, Like, if you thinkIvy is as dynamic as Deer and Fox
or John Morant, then you definitelygo there. And if to be honest,
like, do we think that Keeganis going to be like that much
better than Harrison Barnes is as aproblem, Gus, John Moran doesn't lose
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to Saint Peter's I'm sorry, Iwatched that game and and Jayden, I
listen, does anybody love jay andeven more than me? I know?
But he's not Job Moran. Theturnovers are a major issue to three point
shooting. He's not consisting, andhe does do some odd things like job
got in the flow of the game. I would take him forth. But
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if the Kings keep the pick,I think they're taking Kegan Murray. Just
my opin interesting, all right?And then with five, I mean,
what what did you have a littletake there that you you were interested in.
Yeah, there's a lot of hitscoming in on Matherin going five.
It's a it's a thing. There'sa lot of steam coming to and say
Detroit likes him right now? Thereis no there is no no one at
negative money a fifth overall. KeeganMurray's plus one thirty, Matherin's plus two
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hundred. So there's no fit.There's no real favorite in that. So
if you want to get a betin, guys, maybe look for a
little Matherin plus two hundred and fifthoverall pick. Because there's a lot of
talk about it. I don't knowif it's true, but let's talk about
I've thoughts that we'll get to alittle bit later on the field, right,
let's do risers and fallers. Okay, first faller Jalen Durhan. I
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got him over ten and a halfminus more fourteen and FanDuel. I don't
know why he's the top ten guy. He's always been mocked there. Why.
I know he's a big guy.I know he's young. I get
that during twelve and eight per gamein the AC eight. And then you
have Mark Williams six pot ten tofifty, played fantastic in the tournament and
it did really well to work out. So they talked about his shooting.
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He interviewed, well, I'm notsaying Mark Williams going ahead of Jayalen Durhan.
I'm saying the difference between them Gusis less than people think, which
is why I think Durhan's fully justmy opinion, I totally agree. I
think that those two can be acoin flip. The one thing with Duran
that I think you can you canjump on is I'm very in on the
over as well. Like maybe heis like obtaining some bam likeness, but
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I really don't think so. Theonly spot that I can see him going
inside the top ten is nine atthe Spurs, and we've seen how they,
like, you know, they valuereally versatile wing ish players, and
yes, like you know the NBAguessing sensation, Yaka Peardle is going to
be like a free agent next summer. So maybe they're double downing on that
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and just making sure they have coverage, but they also excel the Spurs.
This is really picking the pile forthe free agent leftovers. Just look at
Zach Collins, Cantabatesdap and our oldfriend Jacques Landell from Saint Mary's. And
if we use the past few yearsof any gauge with the Spurs, they're
gonna swing big and they're going topick a player that they're going to fit
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into their profile. Just look atJosh Primo, Devin Sell. Again,
very over Unduran. I think twelvemakes sense. You know, maybe they
want to muscle up with Chet Charlottemakes sense with one of their picks,
and the Spurs might even like justwait and get him at twenty. So
I feel very strong about the overhere. Yeah, they have what they
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have twenty nine, twenty and twentyfive. Ye right, So are we
sure that Duran is worth nine whenyou can get Walker Kessler later? And
I'm only saying that because if theylike so hand, if there's another player
is what I'm saying that they like. I don't know, And you've taught
me this because remember I was onVernon carry, Vernon carry anywhere right now,
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Like the big men are phasing out. So if if they can't guard
in space, if they can't guardin space and shoot and do basically what
Homegron can do. But like ifif so hands there and everyone really loves
him because he's so versatile in defense, I'd say pass on Duran. Maybe
we get Lucky Mark Williams, andeven if we don't, just get Walker
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Kessler. Just my thought, Idon't think Duran is worth the flag play.
I don't. I don't think he'sthis isn't shock and he was.
Okay, I know he's young.There's a lot of young guys in this
draft, so I think he's afollower. I got him over ten and
a half. I think you're takingthat to the bank. It could be
Santonio, you're right, but whenthey take my guy Chaiboji, this is
that's not gonna happen. Okay,Yeah, very bold Riser Gus h Sohan.
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Yeah, God, I'm under twelveand a half minus one seventy on
DK. I don't care about thejuice because if I think I'm right,
I'll lay the juice. I'm notgonna lay minus four hundred. I'm not
gonna be four hours to one hundred, but minus one seventies fine for me.
He's rising fast across the board.His overrunder was fourteen and a half
or early. That's gone multidimensionally guardevery position can't score okay, under three
from three fifty eight percent from thefree throw line. But sort of a
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crazy guy, sort of a Rodmanesque type of guy, great fit,
great defender. I could see him, Charlotte, I could see the knicks.
I could see under twelve and ahalf. What do you think I'm
very under here? Like I thinkthat, Okay, here's how under I
am. I feel like this couldbe like the surprise, Yes, we
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saw the Bulls kind of surprise everybodylast year with Patrick Williams at number four.
Good. The reason that they tookPatrick Williams at number or four is
because everybody in the East needs aforward at least approaching some sort of resistance
against Giannis and then even against Brownand Tatum. And you know, we're
not even mentioning like Jimmy Butler,Bam and Pascal Siakam. Sohan is the
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guy that could provide that resistance insidedistress six nine to thirty seven foot wingspan,
athletic plus. Sohan has not followedthe traditional path of like the one
in done college player slash G Leaguefrosh. He comes from across the pond.
He plays for the Polish national team, and Detroit at five needs somebody
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to slow down some of these highoctane forwards, and Indiana's roster screams for
somebody like Sohan. He could gofive or six. Look, I know,
Isaiah Jackson's defensive numbers last last seasonmight have been a little bit of
demonic behavior where it looked good,but was it really useful? I don't
know. I think we want tosee that in some sort of winning basketball
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setting. So I think that ifwe're going to find a shocker somewhere,
it might be so Hand at fiveor six because of the needs of teams
in the East. Excellent point.But wait a minute. Understand Patrick Himes
is picked so that you mean like, if players aren't mocked correctly, they
can get picked crazily like Johnny Davisat nine. Okay, moving on,
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I was hoping I would give youa window for this conversation. Go for
it. I'm gonna stick to thisscript because I always go off script on
him. Sorry, Okay, anotherrise with Gus. I got two more
riser in a faller riser ousmain diangover Unders eleven and a half, the
unders minus one twenty five, theovers minus one of five. So it's
kind of we don't know the elevenand a half. That's kind of Vegas
saying, I'm not sure. It'salmost a coin flip right, one of
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the biggest risers from pre draft.I think the Thunder continue the youth movement
with him and grab him. He'simpressed with the Australian NBL NBL League,
high octane guy, six foot ten, really long. Put him with Shay,
put him with a put put himat home, Grin plenty of time
to develop. People like him.They like him a lot, and he
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went from plus four fifty in thetop ten to plus one twenty five.
So he really projects Gus right onthat ten spot there around there. He's
risen a lot. I don't ifhe's risen enough for you to like the
eleven and a half, but hehas risen. I'm gonna go, I'm
gonna go slightly over here. Hecould show up for the Spurs at nine
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or maybe even for the Pells ateight. I just have a feeling like
Jordan and the Hornets are gonna tryto make a big run, go for
a big you know, Mark Williamsor Durham like we mentioned earlier, and
then one versatile athletic defensive wing whocan run with ball and bridges. Dang
fits that exactly. So I'll goover here with a little worry about the
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Spurs and the Pelicans because they alsovalue those types of players. So I'm
kind of with Vegas here. Butunless he goes at nine or eight,
I think he I think that overis a decent pick. Yeah, a
little little movement on Dan right nowunder eleven and a half is minus one
thirty five. The over you getplus money, so you actually get plus
man not a huge difference, buta lot of the movement towards the under.
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But again, you have to namea team, which is the hard
part, like you just said lastone. For me, who I think
is going to be a follower asAj Griffin Duke over unders ten and a
half. The over is now minustwo sixty five. Okay, the under
plus two ten, so they giveme a two to one money If you
think Griffin's going in top ten.I don't there are injury concerns, there's
an injury history. He's a shooter. I get it. There's too many
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guys in this draft. You're takinga pure shooter, that's it. I've
not seen him create off the dribble. I've seen him been scalding hot.
I think he's a superior shooter.They win three point contest, that's great.
I don't think that's a type playeryou take top ten. So I'm
hitting the over here at ten anda half minus two sixty five. I
don't care. I think he isone of the followers. This is a
guy who's always got in the topten no longer. I think I'm going
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to disagree with you here because Ithink there was a time where I personally
had in my head that Griffin mightbe a better NBA player slash prospect than
Polo Um, you know, justto go full disclosure on the podcast here,
he still might end up being thatplayer. Think like Gary Trent,
Buddy, Heal Desmond Bean like yeah, right, Like he kind of fits
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that a physical profile and shooting profile. But I'm gonna say that top ten
is a little too rich for myblood. So I like the over here
in Minnesota and nineteen is perfect.We're both aligned. Yeah, yeah,
definitely. But I'm admitting my weaknessbecause earlier on, I think I could
have put slot him a little bithigher. I think that just now,
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like currently, like two thousand andtwo, June twenty June twenty third,
twenty twenty two, he's not theplayer that he's going to be, So
he'll get drafted where of the playerhe'll get drafted in the position that the
player that he is now. Hejust might end up being a great shooter
in the league. And I thinkif he heals up and finds his old
athletic self, he'll end up beinga plus NBA starter, like fifth or
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fourth starter. I still go overfor the process of the conversation. How
about that? Yeah? They youknow what? They changed this on Draft
Kings. Now fascinating. So theten a half's gone. You can't get
a ten and a half on maybeon bet three sixty five. So yes,
ten and a half had high juiceat minus two sixty five. Now
it's eleven and a half. Yea, So now they've even that is a
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killer when they bump it up apick that's a killer because they're now saying,
we're not giving you a ten ifyou gotta go eleven and a half
and it's minus one forty, soyou're still a favor to go over.
I think he's dropping. I justthink he's two one dimensional. They go,
why would you take him over sohand? I don't need I get
it, But do you really needa shooter that much? There aren't other
shooters in this draft. He isa great one. I'm not arguing that.
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I just think it's a high draftcapital that's all. That's all I
got, man, My last thingI'll say, and then we'll get to
some other ones. I want toget your question, your answer on Yeah,
I just think John Davis is good, and I got him. I
put him in the chat. Iput him at minus ten and a half
and I took it, and thenI put it in at minus nine and
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a half. I nine and ahalf. I grabbed under nine and a
half plus two ten at Caesar's.And what I said was Davis is not
getting enough love from the general publicbecause of the Wisconsin rep. I saw
the thirty seven and fourteen against Purdue. I saw the thirty and twelve against
Indiana. I saw those games.He's a big time player. This kid
can score. He is a gooddefender. He has a high motor,
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he has a stocky build. Ilike it. I think the kid's good.
I got him on nine a half. That's that's two to one.
It's a little frisky, Okay,I got that. And I also grabbed
him at under ten and a halfat minus one twenty two on FanDuel.
Right now, if you go todraft Kings for Johnny Davis under gus right
now, mister Davis over nine anda half. See, they dropped it,
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so they got rid of the ten. Are saying, we know he's
going ten. Over nine and ahalf is minus two sixty hundred. Nine
and a half is plus two hundred. So they have now moved it from
the ten. You can't get toten anymore, which makes it seemed Gus
that they expect him to go Washingtonat number ten. Well, I think
this is where you have to payattention to. Like we we talked about
earlier with the Shan conversation of likewhat teams are picking where? And I
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am totally agree with you. JohnnyDavis is good. Like that just might
be the name of the podcast.And here's another question I have for you
and for the listeners out there.Do you think if he ended the season
healthy, we would even be havingthis conversation of him being like ten,
eleven, twelve. No, notat all. And Gus, do people
realize he won the Big Ten Playerof the Year, which was impressive and
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he when the Jerry West Award forBest Shooting Guard. Now you're gonna you're
gonna poop poo me and say,oh when the Jerry West Award, Mike,
who cares? Who cares? Whatthe mock drafts have him? And
I think, I think I'm alot for ten and a half. I
mean, so I'm getting money backeither way, and I think so.
I think I think Santonio could reach. They cook it so hand. I
understand that, but I think it'swithin the real possibility. What I'd love
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to hear I heard this tonight isPortland Gus is looking to trade the number
seven pick for for O g Nanobeto Toronto. Oo okay, and then
give me him to Toronto. No, don't I think that sounds okay?
So anyway, That's where I'm at, And listen, if we're gonna break
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down Johnny Davis's game. Number One, he can create in space. We've
seen that. Number two, theguy competes like he took that matchup you
mentioned you highlighted that matchup with Purdueand Jade and Ivy being on the other
side. He took that matchup andbeing like, Yo, Jaden Jade Nivey's
on all these highlight films and isgetting these Sports Center clips and and and
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all this all this praise, I'mgonna show you that I should have my
name in that conversation as well.So the fact that he like is cognizant
of that. And then you knowwe've talked about earlier on the podcast during
u during conference tournament season and evenduring March Madness, where Jade Nave wasn't
playing winning basketball. He was playingbasketball to look like a first round draft.
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That is my issue. That's whyI cooled on him. And you
would think that's my type of guy, But that's why I cooled on him.
I didn't like him. And yeah, and Johnny Davis like balled out
and played hurt the second half ofthe season. Yep. So I like
his makeup, I like his gritand also when healthy, you saw the
first half of the season. Hecan play with anybody in the nation,
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including anybody in this draft. Soundsgood, brother, and you got let's
let's hit it with some who getsdrafted first? Yeah? So these these
I just want to I want,I want to hit you up with because
you know, these are some ofour darlings from the college basketball season and
hopefully names that will hear, uh, you know, during the draft later
on this evening. Mike, whogets drafted first? And who would you
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draft first? So there might bethe same answer, it might be two
different answers. All right, Mike, who gets drafted first? Patrick Baldwin
or Caleb Houston? Caleb Houston andI take Patrick Baldwin Caleb Houston. Caleb
Houston has been rumored to be atop first round pick, top thirty pick.
There's a huge disconnect, I thinkbetween what the fans think of him
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and what the scouts do. Hedeclined an invite to the NBA Combine because
he believes he's already a first roundpick. Caleb Houston. Okay, he
was thirty point four percent from thefloor, thirty five percent from three point
range. Very meeky, mediocre,Santa. That's what he was, but
he has upside. He looks smooth, he looks Doug Christy. He looks
like the type of player I wouldtake Baldwin. I have no problem with
Baldwin coming from Milwaukee. Maybe theya little bit, little bit under achieve
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a lot of potential. But everywhereI've seen Houston is going top thirty,
and that does stick with the arrogantNBA scouts saying we can fix this.
What do you think I would go? I think Houston will go first.
I'm with you. I would goBaldwin first. All right, Mike,
who gets drafted first? E?J? Ladell or Dale and Terry?
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And then who would you draft first? Dale? And Terry's on fire right
now, He's he's going through theroof. His odds are flying up the
draft board. Here. I wouldtake Ladell. I'm praying Ladell goes to
the Bucks for obvious reasons. Butright now, if you made me guess,
I think it's Terry. Terry isflying up draft boards. People love
him, his versatility, quality guard. People talking about the Grizzlies because days
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Jones could hit free agency. He'sone of those great guards off the bench.
I think Terry's going first. Ilove Ladell. I think Ladell's under
RADI I hope he goes to Milwaukee. But if I had a bad I
bet Terry. I think Terry mighttickles end of the lottery type things in
the teams. I'm with you too, and I think it depends on your
team need. If you wanted towin now, I would take Liddell.
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If you had a little bit oftime and a little bit of space for
growth, go Terry. All right, Mike, who gets drafted first?
Ron Harper Junior or David Roddy first? Oh my god, I mean I
don't I don't think well. Ican't think logically about Colorado State players,
so I have to step out ofthis. I think that they will.
They will drop Roddy down in thedraft, similar to how they detract home
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Grin. I think they do getinto this body type thing, you know,
Roddy is he looks like a powerforward and he's not. Um.
I think they'll go with Harper.Harper, it's some big shots. He's
been a little bit better in termsof how he's been showcased as a guard
than Roddy. Riddy to play insidefor Colorado State is pretty much their only
big for most of the year.My heart's with Roddy, but my head
says, Harper goes first. Iwould agree. I think that Roddy is
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somebody's gonna take a chance on him. He could be great, he'd be
great. I put him in themock for a fancy presson. I put
him the Spurs just because I wouldlove him to go to the Spurs.
But yeah, that sounds like agood fit, all right, Mike,
who gets drafted first? Tie TieWashington or Malachi Brandom And who would you
draft first? Yeah, I thinktie Tie is is dropping. I would
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take Branham, and I think Randamwill go first. I have Brandham going
at sixteen to the Hawks six pointfive. He's a buck eighty really nice
three level score. I know theinjury concerns, yeah, but it was
fifty percent from the field, fortyone percent from three point range, really
good bullhiling skills, nice wingspan aswell for defense. I think Brandham has
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huge upside, like top ten upside. I think he goes in the middle
of the teens. And I thinktie Tie is starting to drop because people
just really didn't get to see himbecause he was sharing time at the point
guard position. So Branham to me, could be a starter. Tie Tie
to me is probably a backup.I'm gonna go Brandon both ways. Okay,
I think that Brandon will get draftedfirst. I would take Tie Tie
Washington. The reason I would goTie Tie is because we've seen the success
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with these Kentucky guards, whether itbe in New York, whether it be
in Philly. Like those guys comeand they make an impact even though their
draft position says maybe they shouldn't havethat type of impact. All right,
last one, Mike, who getsdrafted first? Who would you draft first?
Ryan Rollins or Trevor key Ls Alittle program program. Wow, that
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is a great question. Damn.I'm gonna say Rollins because I was not
impressed with Keels. I thought Keelswas look good at times, and then
he was sort of in and out. And maybe that's the Duke thing because
he's he wasn't as involved. Hetook a pack seat to Bunco. I'll
take Ryan Rollins for the versatility foreverything you talked about being the tall wing
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that can do multiple things. Ijust didn't see it from Keels. And
I don't know if Keels is ashe can attack the basket, but can
he attack the basket well enough tothat to be his thing in the NBA?
He can shoot a little bit,but he can't shoot a well.
I think Rollins is a better fit. I like Rollin's better and I think
Brons will go first, although you'reprobably gonna tell me I'm wrong about that.
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Uh No. I think that Rollinsmight go first too, simply because
of the shooting numbers. And Ithink it all depends on what type of
physicality Trevor Keels brought into each oneof those workouts. Was he You know,
we talked about the body type thingwith David Roddy and chet Holmegrin that
also might fall into play with TrevorKeels as well, Like he's going to
be quick enough to guard on theperimeter where he's going to be stationed.
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So I like Rollin's a little bitmore than Keels as well, even though
Keels does have like that big playknack mentality. All right, Mike,
I am glad we played who getsdrafted first? And who would you draft
first? And then Mike, howabout you want to want to hit up
with a couple of sleepers, youknow, guys that we really like from
the college basketball season that you kindof have your eye on that could provide
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value for certain teams. Yeah,fire away, all right. So I
think the first place we need togo is a place that we've watched pretty
much more than anybody, and wehave to go out to the Mountain West.
I don't know if anybody else besidesthe Screen Screener podcast watches like nobody
watches more. People may watch asmuch, but I don't know if anybody
watches more Mountain West. And oneof the guys out there is Orlando Robinson
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from Fresno State. Total NBA playerhas NBA size, shoots at thirty five
percent from three. He can passit, he can handle a little bit.
The question is going to be thedefense. He's like a I'm not
a Starbucks guy, But is helike a Trenty size George Niang? Wow?
Wow VENTIMVENTI VENTI size Georgia. Thatthat's gotta be the name of the
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podcast. I know his second round, But you are so good at these
coms, man, I swear toguy that is tremendous. Uh. I
know that you've seen him a tontoo, And is it trenta is trenta
size of Starbucks? Maybe? Right? Listen. I asked my daughters and
I said, is there one biggerthan Vente? And it's Trenta. It
might be Trente, but but again, I'm not a Starbucks guy. I'm
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more of like a Java Love guy. So like that, I don't know,
that's yeah. Orlando Robinson was superimpressive with that Fresno State team,
which really had nothing around him.They played very slow. His numbers could
have been better in a fast pacedsituation. He can step out and shoot
it. He's excellent. I agreewith you on these. He getting picked
in the second round and I manat him, put him my mock now
and Fantasy pros. As I'm lookingat it, I love Orlando Robinson.
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I think it's an excellent, excellentcall on a sleeper home run pick sleeper
number two. How about Jordan HallSaint Joe's six seven wing. He shoots
it over thirty six percent from threeAs a staff he averaged almost seven boards
almost six dimes a game that puthim eleven nationally for assist per game.
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He can play, make, hecan handle, but he plays at his
own speed, So you might thinklike he doesn't look quote unquote athletic.
But I mean I think we justthink like Kyle Anderson here and we see
how impactful Kyle Anderson has been inhis NBA career and most recently with the
grizz YEP. It's a great call. We ended up being on Saint Joe's
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had chance to talk their assistant coachprior to the season. He's very high
on Jordan Hall. The comparison toKyle Anderson is stupid good. It's stupid
good. It's just such a greatcall. I didn't think of it.
Six seven wings that can shoot it, that are long, they have the
wingspan, are always going to geta flyer in the second round. Quite
essential second round pick. Excellent call. Absolutely. And then my last guy
is big Program Wendell Moore, Duke. He does too many things too well.
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After seeing like you know, BruceBrown from the Nets, Grant Williams
from the Celtics, your guy LouDort Okay se Jason Tape from from the
Rockets, who all like quote unquoteplay out of position and still finds success
individually stat wise and also success fortheir teams. More is exactly that type
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of player, somebody who's gonna makewinning plays. He's selfless, he can
play anywhere on the floor. He'smore you know, aposematic. He really
holds some true NBA bite with hisgame and makes winning plays. I think
he could show up in the latefirst round, and if not, somebody's
gonna get a gem in the secondround. With Wendell Moore. Yeah,
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Wendell Moore strikes me as a typeof guy who can blossom, who is
held back by the Duke's system.That's I think he is more upside than
Trevor Keel's. I think he ismore versatile and has not been allowed to
flourish as great an excellent call um. The other thing that excites me greatly
is I've never heard nor used theword a possumatic. So that's just tremendous.
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Great job by you. But yes, that is that is a great
I agree. I mean, Isound like an Idiotore, but I agree
with everything you just said. Imean, your comps are are great.
The cops the one guy that I'llthrow at you that I really like that
I'm I'm rooting for. I'm gonnaI'm gonna say ball. First of all,
I think Nicola Yovic is gaining steam. Now he is mocked in the
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last the latest one by Wasserman inthe second round. I think he's a
first round player. I think he'sa versatile player. I'd love to see
him at Memphis where he can develop. The kid is talented, he is
absolutely talented. Needs to play moredefense. I understand that, so I'm
I'm rooting for him. But thetwo that jump out to me. Number
one, I think Jalen Williams fromSanta Clara, and we saw him a
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little bit, yeah, little underthe radar. He is a rapid riser.
He is right now. I'm notseeing him outside the top twenty.
In every single mock, they loveJaylen Williams. They love them Santa Clara
definitely the type of Josh Primo bonesHighland guy that just sort of rose coming
out of the combine. And theother player that I liked, same name,
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different team, Gus. I thinkJaylen Williams showed us a lot against
Gonzaga. I know he's a center, he's a back to the besket player.
He's not a great dribbler, Iget it, But can't he do
what Isaiah Robie does? You knowwhat I mean? That type of like
player on a team, and Ithink he has upside and I just was
very impressed how he stayed out offoul trouble and he was very controlled against
Gonzaga. Not a first round player, but a guy that I'm rooting for
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to see get picked in the earlysecond round. I'll hit on I love
both of these these highlights that youpicked out. Number one, we'll go
Jaylen Williams for Santa Clara. Obviouslywe watched him a ton watching the West
Coast Conference. The guy can doeverything, has legit NBA size on the
wing, and has shown up andplayed big against again Zag of the number
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one team in the nation. SoI'm totally in on him somewhere in the
first round. You said in theteams, I think that could make sense.
He's another guy that makes sense forthe Spurs at twenty that like,
if you're in that neighborhood. Ifif he falls to the Bucks, I'm
down with that as well. Andthen you know who I think Jaylen Williams
from Arkansas reminds me of I thinkhe reminds me of Blake Griffin. Like
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today, right now, he's gonnatake some charges, he's gonna shoot some
threes, if Blake gonna make somegood passes, if Blake Griffin actually played
inside the three point line. Everytime we see it gets to the bucks,
he's out of the corner. ButSarry, he is got dupped over
Kia. Now he doesn't go inthe bag. But okay, well yeah,
that's why I said Blake Griffin now, so I think I think he
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could be I think he could havean impact in those fashion, the similar
fashion that you know Blake Griffin doesnow for the nets. And we saw
how much trust that the coaching staffhad in a player like that, who
they know he's going to effort defensivelyand know all the rotations. And that's
you know, he showed that hehas a very high game IQ and you
met you you reference that Ganzaga gameand that's the perfect sample size and thumbnail
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sketch for him to highlight that thatgame IQ that he does own. Before
you wrap it up, I justwant to do a rapid fire for your
brother. Yeah, is this playergoing to be a first round selection or
not? Just looking for a yesor no? Okay, because there's something
that are right in the bubble.Justin Lewis of Marquette No. Christian Brown
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of Kansas, No, but Ithink he's gonna be a good envy player.
Max Christie, Michigan State, Okay, thank you about your boy them
hard. No, but he's gonnago to a winning program and help them
as a backup guard because he runsone of the slicktest picking rolls and is
NBA ready in that fashion. KennedyChandler tessee, I'm gonna say, yes,
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he is. Um. I thinkthe size if he's six four,
we're talking to him at the lateend of the lottery. It's gonna break
your heart on this one, brother. You know where I think he's going.
I think Monte Marris get a littleold in Denver. I've seen that
and it made sense to me.I know he's good, but I can
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see them saying, here comes Murray, here comes Porter. Chandler could be
a much cheaper version of Monte.Although I think Monte is underrated. But
I read that and it kind ofwent off in my head that teaming does
make sense, and I like makingthat. I like making doing exactly what
you did, too, like findingthe program and the player that actually makes
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sense of like, okay, thathe'll fit in that culture. He'll fit
in that system, and that totallymakes sense. Yeah, I've seen him
in tie tie going to Denver,so kind of on the point guard thing.
Anyway, that was great, man, Let's rot. Yeah, that
sounds great. Listeners, thank youso much. Thanks for letting us keep
you company during the NBA Draft dayand evening. Hopefully you guys enjoy in
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whatever fashion you plan to. Hopea couple of familiar names come up and
they go to places that you cancontinue watching their you know, their their
professional careers grow, and and thankyou for tuning back into the screen to
screen or college basketball podcasts. Andthis is where you know, where Mike
and eyes knowledge kind of like meldand and men together, and you know,
we take a look at the NBAgame and see what players we've been
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paying attention to all season and whatspots and holes and jigsaw places they can
they can fill in. So thankyou for letting us, you know,
educate you and hopefully today maybe oneof the things that we talked about,
like you'll act on or maybe evenjust sound like, you know, sound
intuitive and smart in your NBA draftconversation. So we're happy to help on
that fashion as well. Two flagplants brother Jabari chat Polo in that order,
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number two. If Johnny Davis hitsat nine or lower, just blocking
right now. Yeah, I don'twant so hand in the top ten as
well, So that's where I'm flattingmy flag as well. All right,
listeners, Selatra got Selatsia. Cheersyou safe side.
Welcome to the Screen, The Screenor College Basketball Podcast with your hosts,
Mike Randall and Gus Kerns. Welcomeand listeners, Welcome to the Screen,
The Screen or College Basketball Podcast.NBA Draft two thousand and two. Addition,
thank you for choosing us to keepyou company on Thursday, which is
(00:37):
a draft day. Like Mike,I'm pretty excited about this. You could
have spent your time with anybody else, but you chose to be here with
Mike and Gus, so we appreciatethat. Mike, we go way back
in the draft, so I'm kindof excited just to kind of kick it
a little old school here and talkabout what some of our beliefs are and
then you know where we might findsome some movers and shakers, risers and
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followers way back in the draft.Guys, let me tell you, gust
and I have known each other.God I want to see so seven to
twelve thirteen, probably they're thirty plusyears. No, you're gonna date us
here a little bit is what.I don't freak care. I don't think
you care. Thirty plus years.Guys. We used to use to come
to my house somebody's said his house, and we would make a board and
(01:19):
write the numbers in and of coursemy favorite one of all time Gus was
ninety three with Webber and Partaway.I mean that was just not Saturday,
but we love it. It's great. I can't wait. I've been diving
into the numbers for god knows howlong. I'm lighting Twitter on fire because
I think Johnny Davis will go topten. So I'm ready to go.
I can't wait. And I wantto hear your thoughts because we've been texting,
(01:40):
we haven't sat down and talk aboutit. So many great things.
Let's dive into it, Okay.Yeah, I think the first place that
we need to start is definitely withthe top three. There seems to be
a consensus top three for the NBADraft this particular season two thousand, twenty
two edition. Mike, I thinkthat it's gonna go Jabari Chet and then
Polo, And I know there's beensome movement with Polo maybe fluctuating and getting
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some juice for lack of a betterword, at number one or number two.
Where do you kind of see thingsand where do you maybe word do
you see value? Yeah, Ijust think you have to decide if you
want to do this When people askI believe in trying to predict what's going
to happen. A lot of peoplegive you their own opinion. Savasini's wonderful
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he gave. He gave a padia. They said, this is what we
think should happen. I'm going togive you what I think will happen.
Now. I've been on record aboutChet Holmgren. I think chet Holmgren is
going to have a very long careerin the NBA. I think he's going
to be a multi time All Star. I just wouldn't pick him at number
one. I actually have him goutat number two, so I don't think
like I'm dropping him that far.The chet apologist of I'm a bashing chet
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Holman. I have number two overallin the draft my attitude really quick,
and then give me a top three. I have said Jabari, no matter
what I did, bet it.I bet on Draft Kings was plus one
hundred about six weeks ago. Iam on Jabari. My argument is this,
he is six ten, he istoo twenty. He played in the
SEC. He led the SEC championAuburn Tigers and scoring end three point percentage,
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good motor, second on the teamin rebounding seven and a half rebounds
per game. He was at plusone hundred. It dropped to minus two
seventy five, which means you gottwo five bucks to one one hundred.
It started going the other direction.Now it's back again over minus two hundred.
I don't know what it is.I think Gus it's because he's not
charismatic. I think they want likea remember Baker Mayfield with the brand.
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He's not that guy. But I'lltell you this. He played on our
bird, he dominated on our bird. He's eight, he's super young,
nineteen years one month. What's notto like? I have him first,
I would agree. I think itwould be hard to pass up the cross
section of athleticism, shooting, size, at the age you mentioned. I
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think all of those things point tohim being a very valuable commodity at the
number one pick. I think thething that maybe stands out with him the
most is the combination of the lengthand the accurate shooting. You could make
an argument in this draft he's atop three shooter. Normally we would reserve
that for a wing player, maybeeven our point guard. We're talking about
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your small forward or your power photohere. So if you're going to get
the best shooter in the draft who'salso six ten and has shown that he
can move around the floor and iswilling to effort on the defensive end and
guard multipositions. I'm not saying he'sexcellent at it, but he's willing the
effort. Yeah, I'm in withthat. That sounds okay. And I'd
like to thank you, buddy fornot ripping me apart because a lot of
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people have made Jabari Smith comparable JonathanIsaac, who I was technically very against.
Yes, yes, of course,but thank you for passing on that.
My number two is Cheed Holmgren.Oklahoma City has been very tight lipped
about as always as always about whatthey're going to do. Listen, I
think there is a very logical reasonto take at Homegren one. I see
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what people see, which is hethe upside. I get it. I
get the whole thing. I don'tthink he's durant. Some people have said
he can develop that. I don'tsee that. But I have no problem
if you think he can put onweight, gets stronger, and obviously he
has guards skill. I get it. I just don't understand why he has
upside and the kid who is eighteenyears old for most of the year,
leading Norburn and scoring and rebounding,doesn't. I don't know why why Smith
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is at his ceiling and Chet isn't. But I think Chet's going too.
I don't think they're taking Palo numbertwo. I think Paulo's going too.
The Rockets. I've had questions aboutPaulo. I loved him in game run.
I texted you and our friends fromthe Bucks talking about how great he
was, and then I just didn'tsee him a little bit, you know,
let the game come to me.But Paulo Bancaro is six ten,
he's outside, he can handle.I get it. They got rid of
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Christian Wood, so certainly that makestotal sense. I think Chet's number two
to Oklahoma City. He fits theyouth move in twenty years, one month,
defense, the whole thing, thirtynine percent, three point range fine,
and I have Boncarro three. Whatdo you think I would agree completely
with both of those. I thinkChet Homegren fits the OKC profile as unique
talent that maybe they would feel likethey needed to dig up like they usually
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would do, like let's just throwup Josh Giddy out there. But Chet,
they have the two picks, Sowhy not go with the most unique
talent and that's definitely Chet Homegren Andyou mentioned Polo. Polo might be you
know, the most game ready ofthe three of them, Like you could
see him coming in and being ona starting lineup, maybe a little quicker
than the first two. But likeyou mentioned long term and you ask the
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question, Mike of why do peoplethink that you know, Jabari has hit
the ceiling and why Chet has stillus potential? That just goes back to
the weight issue. That's why thatthat that that questioning or that verbiage is
thrown around with those two players,especially in the same conversation. So I
mean if you come in rail thinlike you know, like Chet has so
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did yeah us like Jannis came inreal th that's fair and got his you
know, got hit, got pushedaround and got lessons taught to him early.
So is Chet ready to take thattype of you know, education where
he's gonna get pushed around. Ithink he. I think he is.
I just think you can go onsocial media and get anything you want.
Now are now people are holding JabbarSmith's size again. So because he's built
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now, he doesn't have upside right, you know, And I'm a little
lower in Chet than you, butI'm not passing on chet Holmberg with the
second pick. I think he isa very solid piece of a winning team
in the NBA. I think he'sa future All Star. So no argument
here. I'm fine with it.By Carol, by the way, a
couple of nuggets for you. Refusedto work out for the Magic twice.
I mean that that doesn't make Imean, so you could steam all you
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want guys, Like, why wouldthe Magic want him if he refuses to
work out for them twice? Rightnow, Gus, I'm on Draft Kings.
That that by way, that that'sa hollow power move right there,
right, power move? That's greatand you're you're not going first? Uh
you know, Oh you didn't workout for us? We want you more?
Just doesn't work. Here you go, Gus, right now. Draft
Kings updated tonight. Jabari spits downminus four fifty to go first, and
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I don't. As we get closerthings do league he's minus four fifty m
Boncaro is plus three eighty. Boncarrowas down to plus two hundreds, so
there was some steam going. Buthe's yeah, I noticed that earlier in
the week. Yeah, yeah,Now it's plus three eight Chad homegrens to
plus five fifty. But for thenumber two pick us Chad home Grin minus
three thirty, yeah, and thenBoncarro's plus three fifty, and then Boncarro
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for the third pick is minus fourhundred. So it certainly seems like that's
the way it's going to go.And just you know, this is one
of my favorite parts of the draftis to just do like some some simple
comps. We won't go super deephere, but if you're going to compare
Jabari to somebody, you might justlook into like the Magic's past and it
might be like a Rashad Lewis typeplayer, maybe a little bit more skilled
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chet I like the comparison with BrandonIngram slight multi skilled, had to find
his way. Maybe the second teamthat he's on. If Oklahoma City like
sours on him, that's where heblossoms. And then with Polo, maybe
Tobias Harris with a couple of moreinches and a little better shooter. You're
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good at this. That's good,all right? So those those are those
are the top three comps that wehave out there. What do you want?
What do you want to hit onnext year, Mike, Well,
let's go next to let's let's justgo to four or five real quick.
Okay, Yeah, So if theKings keep this pick at, I'm just
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giggling because I think the Kings willdo something silly, right, the Kings
being Kings, right right right,If the Kings keep it, I don't
know why I believe this. Imean, it comes down to what your
gut says. I do think they'regonna take Keegan Murray. I believe they
took him at the dinner. Now, they didn't work out Jade Nivey,
but that doesn't matter because they didn'twork David Mitchell out either. So I'm
not going by that. But Ikind of buy that because he's a bigger
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player. He could guard fours.His defense was better than people realize.
He was ranked number seven overall inthe Big Ten and defense. I know
he gambles for steels A lot oftimes. You saw him going for steals
and he's gotten beat back door.I get that, but he's not a
horrific defender, particularly in the post. At the numbers have graded out.
I was really impressed with his scoringand Iowa, we saw some big games
by him took a huge lead.If someone trades up to four, they're
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trading up for Ivy, They're nottrading up for Keegan Murray. So if
the only way I hit on theKegan Murray number four, which I have
a little slight stuff right now,is if the Kings picked the pick,
keep the pick and do the Kingstuff right now, Gus fourth overall pick
draft Kings, Jay and Ivy minusone seventy five, Kegan Murray plus one
forty five. So a little closer, it's worth it's worth a look.
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But I mean, if you're ifit depends on where you are with Ivy
too, Like, if you thinkIvy is as dynamic as Deer and Fox
or John Morant, then you definitelygo there. And if to be honest,
like, do we think that Keeganis going to be like that much
better than Harrison Barnes is as aproblem, Gus, John Moran doesn't lose
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to Saint Peter's I'm sorry, Iwatched that game and and Jayden, I
listen, does anybody love jay andeven more than me? I know?
But he's not Job Moran. Theturnovers are a major issue to three point
shooting. He's not consisting, andhe does do some odd things like job
got in the flow of the game. I would take him forth. But
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if the Kings keep the pick,I think they're taking Kegan Murray. Just
my opin interesting, all right?And then with five, I mean,
what what did you have a littletake there that you you were interested in.
Yeah, there's a lot of hitscoming in on Matherin going five.
It's a it's a thing. There'sa lot of steam coming to and say
Detroit likes him right now? Thereis no there is no no one at
negative money a fifth overall. KeeganMurray's plus one thirty, Matherin's plus two
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hundred. So there's no fit.There's no real favorite in that. So
if you want to get a betin, guys, maybe look for a
little Matherin plus two hundred and fifthoverall pick. Because there's a lot of
talk about it. I don't knowif it's true, but let's talk about
I've thoughts that we'll get to alittle bit later on the field, right,
let's do risers and fallers. Okay, first faller Jalen Durhan. I
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got him over ten and a halfminus more fourteen and FanDuel. I don't
know why he's the top ten guy. He's always been mocked there. Why.
I know he's a big guy.I know he's young. I get
that during twelve and eight per gamein the AC eight. And then you
have Mark Williams six pot ten tofifty, played fantastic in the tournament and
it did really well to work out. So they talked about his shooting.
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He interviewed, well, I'm notsaying Mark Williams going ahead of Jayalen Durhan.
I'm saying the difference between them Gusis less than people think, which
is why I think Durhan's fully justmy opinion, I totally agree. I
think that those two can be acoin flip. The one thing with Duran
that I think you can you canjump on is I'm very in on the
over as well. Like maybe heis like obtaining some bam likeness, but
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I really don't think so. Theonly spot that I can see him going
inside the top ten is nine atthe Spurs, and we've seen how they,
like, you know, they valuereally versatile wing ish players, and
yes, like you know the NBAguessing sensation, Yaka Peardle is going to
be like a free agent next summer. So maybe they're double downing on that
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and just making sure they have coverage, but they also excel the Spurs.
This is really picking the pile forthe free agent leftovers. Just look at
Zach Collins, Cantabatesdap and our oldfriend Jacques Landell from Saint Mary's. And
if we use the past few yearsof any gauge with the Spurs, they're
gonna swing big and they're going topick a player that they're going to fit
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into their profile. Just look atJosh Primo, Devin Sell. Again,
very over Unduran. I think twelvemakes sense. You know, maybe they
want to muscle up with Chet Charlottemakes sense with one of their picks,
and the Spurs might even like justwait and get him at twenty. So
I feel very strong about the overhere. Yeah, they have what they
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have twenty nine, twenty and twentyfive. Ye right, So are we
sure that Duran is worth nine whenyou can get Walker Kessler later? And
I'm only saying that because if theylike so hand, if there's another player
is what I'm saying that they like. I don't know, And you've taught
me this because remember I was onVernon carry, Vernon carry anywhere right now,
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Like the big men are phasing out. So if if they can't guard
in space, if they can't guardin space and shoot and do basically what
Homegron can do. But like ifif so hands there and everyone really loves
him because he's so versatile in defense, I'd say pass on Duran. Maybe
we get Lucky Mark Williams, andeven if we don't, just get Walker
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Kessler. Just my thought, Idon't think Duran is worth the flag play.
I don't. I don't think he'sthis isn't shock and he was.
Okay, I know he's young.There's a lot of young guys in this
draft, so I think he's afollower. I got him over ten and
a half. I think you're takingthat to the bank. It could be
Santonio, you're right, but whenthey take my guy Chaiboji, this is
that's not gonna happen. Okay,Yeah, very bold Riser Gus h Sohan.
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Yeah, God, I'm under twelveand a half minus one seventy on
DK. I don't care about thejuice because if I think I'm right,
I'll lay the juice. I'm notgonna lay minus four hundred. I'm not
gonna be four hours to one hundred, but minus one seventies fine for me.
He's rising fast across the board.His overrunder was fourteen and a half
or early. That's gone multidimensionally guardevery position can't score okay, under three
from three fifty eight percent from thefree throw line. But sort of a
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crazy guy, sort of a Rodmanesque type of guy, great fit,
great defender. I could see him, Charlotte, I could see the knicks.
I could see under twelve and ahalf. What do you think I'm
very under here? Like I thinkthat, Okay, here's how under I
am. I feel like this couldbe like the surprise, Yes, we
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saw the Bulls kind of surprise everybodylast year with Patrick Williams at number four.
Good. The reason that they tookPatrick Williams at number or four is
because everybody in the East needs aforward at least approaching some sort of resistance
against Giannis and then even against Brownand Tatum. And you know, we're
not even mentioning like Jimmy Butler,Bam and Pascal Siakam. Sohan is the
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guy that could provide that resistance insidedistress six nine to thirty seven foot wingspan,
athletic plus. Sohan has not followedthe traditional path of like the one
in done college player slash G Leaguefrosh. He comes from across the pond.
He plays for the Polish national team, and Detroit at five needs somebody
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to slow down some of these highoctane forwards, and Indiana's roster screams for
somebody like Sohan. He could gofive or six. Look, I know,
Isaiah Jackson's defensive numbers last last seasonmight have been a little bit of
demonic behavior where it looked good,but was it really useful? I don't
know. I think we want tosee that in some sort of winning basketball
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setting. So I think that ifwe're going to find a shocker somewhere,
it might be so Hand at fiveor six because of the needs of teams
in the East. Excellent point.But wait a minute. Understand Patrick Himes
is picked so that you mean like, if players aren't mocked correctly, they
can get picked crazily like Johnny Davisat nine. Okay, moving on,
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I was hoping I would give youa window for this conversation. Go for
it. I'm gonna stick to thisscript because I always go off script on
him. Sorry, Okay, anotherrise with Gus. I got two more
riser in a faller riser ousmain diangover Unders eleven and a half, the
unders minus one twenty five, theovers minus one of five. So it's
kind of we don't know the elevenand a half. That's kind of Vegas
saying, I'm not sure. It'salmost a coin flip right, one of
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the biggest risers from pre draft.I think the Thunder continue the youth movement
with him and grab him. He'simpressed with the Australian NBL NBL League,
high octane guy, six foot ten, really long. Put him with Shay,
put him with a put put himat home, Grin plenty of time
to develop. People like him.They like him a lot, and he
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went from plus four fifty in thetop ten to plus one twenty five.
So he really projects Gus right onthat ten spot there around there. He's
risen a lot. I don't ifhe's risen enough for you to like the
eleven and a half, but hehas risen. I'm gonna go, I'm
gonna go slightly over here. Hecould show up for the Spurs at nine
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or maybe even for the Pells ateight. I just have a feeling like
Jordan and the Hornets are gonna tryto make a big run, go for
a big you know, Mark Williamsor Durham like we mentioned earlier, and
then one versatile athletic defensive wing whocan run with ball and bridges. Dang
fits that exactly. So I'll goover here with a little worry about the
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Spurs and the Pelicans because they alsovalue those types of players. So I'm
kind of with Vegas here. Butunless he goes at nine or eight,
I think he I think that overis a decent pick. Yeah, a
little little movement on Dan right nowunder eleven and a half is minus one
thirty five. The over you getplus money, so you actually get plus
man not a huge difference, buta lot of the movement towards the under.
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But again, you have to namea team, which is the hard
part, like you just said lastone. For me, who I think
is going to be a follower asAj Griffin Duke over unders ten and a
half. The over is now minustwo sixty five. Okay, the under
plus two ten, so they giveme a two to one money If you
think Griffin's going in top ten.I don't there are injury concerns, there's
an injury history. He's a shooter. I get it. There's too many
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guys in this draft. You're takinga pure shooter, that's it. I've
not seen him create off the dribble. I've seen him been scalding hot.
I think he's a superior shooter.They win three point contest, that's great.
I don't think that's a type playeryou take top ten. So I'm
hitting the over here at ten anda half minus two sixty five. I
don't care. I think he isone of the followers. This is a
guy who's always got in the topten no longer. I think I'm going
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to disagree with you here because Ithink there was a time where I personally
had in my head that Griffin mightbe a better NBA player slash prospect than
Polo Um, you know, justto go full disclosure on the podcast here,
he still might end up being thatplayer. Think like Gary Trent,
Buddy, Heal Desmond Bean like yeah, right, Like he kind of fits
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that a physical profile and shooting profile. But I'm gonna say that top ten
is a little too rich for myblood. So I like the over here
in Minnesota and nineteen is perfect.We're both aligned. Yeah, yeah,
definitely. But I'm admitting my weaknessbecause earlier on, I think I could
have put slot him a little bithigher. I think that just now,
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like currently, like two thousand andtwo, June twenty June twenty third,
twenty twenty two, he's not theplayer that he's going to be, So
he'll get drafted where of the playerhe'll get drafted in the position that the
player that he is now. Hejust might end up being a great shooter
in the league. And I thinkif he heals up and finds his old
athletic self, he'll end up beinga plus NBA starter, like fifth or
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fourth starter. I still go overfor the process of the conversation. How
about that? Yeah? They youknow what? They changed this on Draft
Kings. Now fascinating. So theten a half's gone. You can't get
a ten and a half on maybeon bet three sixty five. So yes,
ten and a half had high juiceat minus two sixty five. Now
it's eleven and a half. Yea, So now they've even that is a
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killer when they bump it up apick that's a killer because they're now saying,
we're not giving you a ten ifyou gotta go eleven and a half
and it's minus one forty, soyou're still a favor to go over.
I think he's dropping. I justthink he's two one dimensional. They go,
why would you take him over sohand? I don't need I get
it, But do you really needa shooter that much? There aren't other
shooters in this draft. He isa great one. I'm not arguing that.
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I just think it's a high draftcapital that's all. That's all I
got, man, My last thingI'll say, and then we'll get to
some other ones. I want toget your question, your answer on Yeah,
I just think John Davis is good, and I got him. I
put him in the chat. Iput him at minus ten and a half
and I took it, and thenI put it in at minus nine and
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a half. I nine and ahalf. I grabbed under nine and a
half plus two ten at Caesar's.And what I said was Davis is not
getting enough love from the general publicbecause of the Wisconsin rep. I saw
the thirty seven and fourteen against Purdue. I saw the thirty and twelve against
Indiana. I saw those games.He's a big time player. This kid
can score. He is a gooddefender. He has a high motor,
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he has a stocky build. Ilike it. I think the kid's good.
I got him on nine a half. That's that's two to one.
It's a little frisky, Okay,I got that. And I also grabbed
him at under ten and a halfat minus one twenty two on FanDuel.
Right now, if you go todraft Kings for Johnny Davis under gus right
now, mister Davis over nine anda half. See, they dropped it,
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so they got rid of the ten. Are saying, we know he's
going ten. Over nine and ahalf is minus two sixty hundred. Nine
and a half is plus two hundred. So they have now moved it from
the ten. You can't get toten anymore, which makes it seemed Gus
that they expect him to go Washingtonat number ten. Well, I think
this is where you have to payattention to. Like we we talked about
earlier with the Shan conversation of likewhat teams are picking where? And I
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am totally agree with you. JohnnyDavis is good. Like that just might
be the name of the podcast.And here's another question I have for you
and for the listeners out there.Do you think if he ended the season
healthy, we would even be havingthis conversation of him being like ten,
eleven, twelve. No, notat all. And Gus, do people
realize he won the Big Ten Playerof the Year, which was impressive and
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he when the Jerry West Award forBest Shooting Guard. Now you're gonna you're
gonna poop poo me and say,oh when the Jerry West Award, Mike,
who cares? Who cares? Whatthe mock drafts have him? And
I think, I think I'm alot for ten and a half. I
mean, so I'm getting money backeither way, and I think so.
I think I think Santonio could reach. They cook it so hand. I
understand that, but I think it'swithin the real possibility. What I'd love
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to hear I heard this tonight isPortland Gus is looking to trade the number
seven pick for for O g Nanobeto Toronto. Oo okay, and then
give me him to Toronto. No, don't I think that sounds okay?
So anyway, That's where I'm at, And listen, if we're gonna break
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down Johnny Davis's game. Number One, he can create in space. We've
seen that. Number two, theguy competes like he took that matchup you
mentioned you highlighted that matchup with Purdueand Jade and Ivy being on the other
side. He took that matchup andbeing like, Yo, Jaden Jade Nivey's
on all these highlight films and isgetting these Sports Center clips and and and
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all this all this praise, I'mgonna show you that I should have my
name in that conversation as well.So the fact that he like is cognizant
of that. And then you knowwe've talked about earlier on the podcast during
u during conference tournament season and evenduring March Madness, where Jade Nave wasn't
playing winning basketball. He was playingbasketball to look like a first round draft.
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That is my issue. That's whyI cooled on him. And you
would think that's my type of guy, But that's why I cooled on him.
I didn't like him. And yeah, and Johnny Davis like balled out
and played hurt the second half ofthe season. Yep. So I like
his makeup, I like his gritand also when healthy, you saw the
first half of the season. Hecan play with anybody in the nation,
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including anybody in this draft. Soundsgood, brother, and you got let's
let's hit it with some who getsdrafted first? Yeah? So these these
I just want to I want,I want to hit you up with because
you know, these are some ofour darlings from the college basketball season and
hopefully names that will hear, uh, you know, during the draft later
on this evening. Mike, whogets drafted first? And who would you
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draft first? So there might bethe same answer, it might be two
different answers. All right, Mike, who gets drafted first? Patrick Baldwin
or Caleb Houston? Caleb Houston andI take Patrick Baldwin Caleb Houston. Caleb
Houston has been rumored to be atop first round pick, top thirty pick.
There's a huge disconnect, I thinkbetween what the fans think of him
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and what the scouts do. Hedeclined an invite to the NBA Combine because
he believes he's already a first roundpick. Caleb Houston. Okay, he
was thirty point four percent from thefloor, thirty five percent from three point
range. Very meeky, mediocre,Santa. That's what he was, but
he has upside. He looks smooth, he looks Doug Christy. He looks
like the type of player I wouldtake Baldwin. I have no problem with
Baldwin coming from Milwaukee. Maybe theya little bit, little bit under achieve
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a lot of potential. But everywhereI've seen Houston is going top thirty,
and that does stick with the arrogantNBA scouts saying we can fix this.
What do you think I would go? I think Houston will go first.
I'm with you. I would goBaldwin first. All right, Mike,
who gets drafted first? E?J? Ladell or Dale and Terry?
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And then who would you draft first? Dale? And Terry's on fire right
now, He's he's going through theroof. His odds are flying up the
draft board. Here. I wouldtake Ladell. I'm praying Ladell goes to
the Bucks for obvious reasons. Butright now, if you made me guess,
I think it's Terry. Terry isflying up draft boards. People love
him, his versatility, quality guard. People talking about the Grizzlies because days
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Jones could hit free agency. He'sone of those great guards off the bench.
I think Terry's going first. Ilove Ladell. I think Ladell's under
RADI I hope he goes to Milwaukee. But if I had a bad I
bet Terry. I think Terry mighttickles end of the lottery type things in
the teams. I'm with you too, and I think it depends on your
team need. If you wanted towin now, I would take Liddell.
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If you had a little bit oftime and a little bit of space for
growth, go Terry. All right, Mike, who gets drafted first?
Ron Harper Junior or David Roddy first? Oh my god, I mean I
don't I don't think well. Ican't think logically about Colorado State players,
so I have to step out ofthis. I think that they will.
They will drop Roddy down in thedraft, similar to how they detract home
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Grin. I think they do getinto this body type thing, you know,
Roddy is he looks like a powerforward and he's not. Um.
I think they'll go with Harper.Harper, it's some big shots. He's
been a little bit better in termsof how he's been showcased as a guard
than Roddy. Riddy to play insidefor Colorado State is pretty much their only
big for most of the year.My heart's with Roddy, but my head
says, Harper goes first. Iwould agree. I think that Roddy is
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somebody's gonna take a chance on him. He could be great, he'd be
great. I put him in themock for a fancy presson. I put
him the Spurs just because I wouldlove him to go to the Spurs.
But yeah, that sounds like agood fit, all right, Mike,
who gets drafted first? Tie TieWashington or Malachi Brandom And who would you
draft first? Yeah, I thinktie Tie is is dropping. I would
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take Branham, and I think Randamwill go first. I have Brandham going
at sixteen to the Hawks six pointfive. He's a buck eighty really nice
three level score. I know theinjury concerns, yeah, but it was
fifty percent from the field, fortyone percent from three point range, really
good bullhiling skills, nice wingspan aswell for defense. I think Brandham has
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huge upside, like top ten upside. I think he goes in the middle
of the teens. And I thinktie Tie is starting to drop because people
just really didn't get to see himbecause he was sharing time at the point
guard position. So Branham to me, could be a starter. Tie Tie
to me is probably a backup.I'm gonna go Brandon both ways. Okay,
I think that Brandon will get draftedfirst. I would take Tie Tie
Washington. The reason I would goTie Tie is because we've seen the success
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with these Kentucky guards, whether itbe in New York, whether it be
in Philly. Like those guys comeand they make an impact even though their
draft position says maybe they shouldn't havethat type of impact. All right,
last one, Mike, who getsdrafted first? Who would you draft first?
Ryan Rollins or Trevor key Ls Alittle program program. Wow, that
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is a great question. Damn.I'm gonna say Rollins because I was not
impressed with Keels. I thought Keelswas look good at times, and then
he was sort of in and out. And maybe that's the Duke thing because
he's he wasn't as involved. Hetook a pack seat to Bunco. I'll
take Ryan Rollins for the versatility foreverything you talked about being the tall wing
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that can do multiple things. Ijust didn't see it from Keels. And
I don't know if Keels is ashe can attack the basket, but can
he attack the basket well enough tothat to be his thing in the NBA?
He can shoot a little bit,but he can't shoot a well.
I think Rollins is a better fit. I like Rollin's better and I think
Brons will go first, although you'reprobably gonna tell me I'm wrong about that.
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Uh No. I think that Rollinsmight go first too, simply because
of the shooting numbers. And Ithink it all depends on what type of
physicality Trevor Keels brought into each oneof those workouts. Was he You know,
we talked about the body type thingwith David Roddy and chet Holmegrin that
also might fall into play with TrevorKeels as well, Like he's going to
be quick enough to guard on theperimeter where he's going to be stationed.
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So I like Rollin's a little bitmore than Keels as well, even though
Keels does have like that big playknack mentality. All right, Mike,
I am glad we played who getsdrafted first? And who would you draft
first? And then Mike, howabout you want to want to hit up
with a couple of sleepers, youknow, guys that we really like from
the college basketball season that you kindof have your eye on that could provide
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value for certain teams. Yeah,fire away, all right. So I
think the first place we need togo is a place that we've watched pretty
much more than anybody, and wehave to go out to the Mountain West.
I don't know if anybody else besidesthe Screen Screener podcast watches like nobody
watches more. People may watch asmuch, but I don't know if anybody
watches more Mountain West. And oneof the guys out there is Orlando Robinson
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from Fresno State. Total NBA playerhas NBA size, shoots at thirty five
percent from three. He can passit, he can handle a little bit.
The question is going to be thedefense. He's like a I'm not
a Starbucks guy, But is helike a Trenty size George Niang? Wow?
Wow VENTIMVENTI VENTI size Georgia. Thatthat's gotta be the name of the
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podcast. I know his second round, But you are so good at these
coms, man, I swear toguy that is tremendous. Uh. I
know that you've seen him a tontoo, And is it trenta is trenta
size of Starbucks? Maybe? Right? Listen. I asked my daughters and
I said, is there one biggerthan Vente? And it's Trenta. It
might be Trente, but but again, I'm not a Starbucks guy. I'm
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more of like a Java Love guy. So like that, I don't know,
that's yeah. Orlando Robinson was superimpressive with that Fresno State team,
which really had nothing around him.They played very slow. His numbers could
have been better in a fast pacedsituation. He can step out and shoot
it. He's excellent. I agreewith you on these. He getting picked
in the second round and I manat him, put him my mock now
and Fantasy pros. As I'm lookingat it, I love Orlando Robinson.
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I think it's an excellent, excellentcall on a sleeper home run pick sleeper
number two. How about Jordan HallSaint Joe's six seven wing. He shoots
it over thirty six percent from threeAs a staff he averaged almost seven boards
almost six dimes a game that puthim eleven nationally for assist per game.
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He can play, make, hecan handle, but he plays at his
own speed, So you might thinklike he doesn't look quote unquote athletic.
But I mean I think we justthink like Kyle Anderson here and we see
how impactful Kyle Anderson has been inhis NBA career and most recently with the
grizz YEP. It's a great call. We ended up being on Saint Joe's
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had chance to talk their assistant coachprior to the season. He's very high
on Jordan Hall. The comparison toKyle Anderson is stupid good. It's stupid
good. It's just such a greatcall. I didn't think of it.
Six seven wings that can shoot it, that are long, they have the
wingspan, are always going to geta flyer in the second round. Quite
essential second round pick. Excellent call. Absolutely. And then my last guy
is big Program Wendell Moore, Duke. He does too many things too well.
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After seeing like you know, BruceBrown from the Nets, Grant Williams
from the Celtics, your guy LouDort Okay se Jason Tape from from the
Rockets, who all like quote unquoteplay out of position and still finds success
individually stat wise and also success fortheir teams. More is exactly that type
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of player, somebody who's gonna makewinning plays. He's selfless, he can
play anywhere on the floor. He'smore you know, aposematic. He really
holds some true NBA bite with hisgame and makes winning plays. I think
he could show up in the latefirst round, and if not, somebody's
gonna get a gem in the secondround. With Wendell Moore. Yeah,
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Wendell Moore strikes me as a typeof guy who can blossom, who is
held back by the Duke's system.That's I think he is more upside than
Trevor Keel's. I think he ismore versatile and has not been allowed to
flourish as great an excellent call um. The other thing that excites me greatly
is I've never heard nor used theword a possumatic. So that's just tremendous.
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Great job by you. But yes, that is that is a great
I agree. I mean, Isound like an Idiotore, but I agree
with everything you just said. Imean, your comps are are great.
The cops the one guy that I'llthrow at you that I really like that
I'm I'm rooting for. I'm gonnaI'm gonna say ball. First of all,
I think Nicola Yovic is gaining steam. Now he is mocked in the
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last the latest one by Wasserman inthe second round. I think he's a
first round player. I think he'sa versatile player. I'd love to see
him at Memphis where he can develop. The kid is talented, he is
absolutely talented. Needs to play moredefense. I understand that, so I'm
I'm rooting for him. But thetwo that jump out to me. Number
one, I think Jalen Williams fromSanta Clara, and we saw him a
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little bit, yeah, little underthe radar. He is a rapid riser.
He is right now. I'm notseeing him outside the top twenty.
In every single mock, they loveJaylen Williams. They love them Santa Clara
definitely the type of Josh Primo bonesHighland guy that just sort of rose coming
out of the combine. And theother player that I liked, same name,
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different team, Gus. I thinkJaylen Williams showed us a lot against
Gonzaga. I know he's a center, he's a back to the besket player.
He's not a great dribbler, Iget it, But can't he do
what Isaiah Robie does? You knowwhat I mean? That type of like
player on a team, and Ithink he has upside and I just was
very impressed how he stayed out offoul trouble and he was very controlled against
Gonzaga. Not a first round player, but a guy that I'm rooting for
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to see get picked in the earlysecond round. I'll hit on I love
both of these these highlights that youpicked out. Number one, we'll go
Jaylen Williams for Santa Clara. Obviouslywe watched him a ton watching the West
Coast Conference. The guy can doeverything, has legit NBA size on the
wing, and has shown up andplayed big against again Zag of the number
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one team in the nation. SoI'm totally in on him somewhere in the
first round. You said in theteams, I think that could make sense.
He's another guy that makes sense forthe Spurs at twenty that like,
if you're in that neighborhood. Ifif he falls to the Bucks, I'm
down with that as well. Andthen you know who I think Jaylen Williams
from Arkansas reminds me of I thinkhe reminds me of Blake Griffin. Like
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today, right now, he's gonnatake some charges, he's gonna shoot some
threes, if Blake gonna make somegood passes, if Blake Griffin actually played
inside the three point line. Everytime we see it gets to the bucks,
he's out of the corner. ButSarry, he is got dupped over
Kia. Now he doesn't go inthe bag. But okay, well yeah,
that's why I said Blake Griffin now, so I think I think he
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could be I think he could havean impact in those fashion, the similar
fashion that you know Blake Griffin doesnow for the nets. And we saw
how much trust that the coaching staffhad in a player like that, who
they know he's going to effort defensivelyand know all the rotations. And that's
you know, he showed that hehas a very high game IQ and you
met you you reference that Ganzaga gameand that's the perfect sample size and thumbnail
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sketch for him to highlight that thatgame IQ that he does own. Before
you wrap it up, I justwant to do a rapid fire for your
brother. Yeah, is this playergoing to be a first round selection or
not? Just looking for a yesor no? Okay, because there's something
that are right in the bubble.Justin Lewis of Marquette No. Christian Brown
(38:35):
of Kansas, No, but Ithink he's gonna be a good envy player.
Max Christie, Michigan State, Okay, thank you about your boy them
hard. No, but he's gonnago to a winning program and help them
as a backup guard because he runsone of the slicktest picking rolls and is
NBA ready in that fashion. KennedyChandler tessee, I'm gonna say, yes,
(39:00):
he is. Um. I thinkthe size if he's six four,
we're talking to him at the lateend of the lottery. It's gonna break
your heart on this one, brother. You know where I think he's going.
I think Monte Marris get a littleold in Denver. I've seen that
and it made sense to me.I know he's good, but I can
(39:21):
see them saying, here comes Murray, here comes Porter. Chandler could be
a much cheaper version of Monte.Although I think Monte is underrated. But
I read that and it kind ofwent off in my head that teaming does
make sense, and I like makingthat. I like making doing exactly what
you did, too, like findingthe program and the player that actually makes
(39:43):
sense of like, okay, thathe'll fit in that culture. He'll fit
in that system, and that totallymakes sense. Yeah, I've seen him
in tie tie going to Denver,so kind of on the point guard thing.
Anyway, that was great, man, Let's rot. Yeah, that
sounds great. Listeners, thank youso much. Thanks for letting us keep
you company during the NBA Draft dayand evening. Hopefully you guys enjoy in
(40:04):
whatever fashion you plan to. Hopea couple of familiar names come up and
they go to places that you cancontinue watching their you know, their their
professional careers grow, and and thankyou for tuning back into the screen to
screen or college basketball podcasts. Andthis is where you know, where Mike
and eyes knowledge kind of like meldand and men together, and you know,
we take a look at the NBAgame and see what players we've been
(40:27):
paying attention to all season and whatspots and holes and jigsaw places they can
they can fill in. So thankyou for letting us, you know,
educate you and hopefully today maybe oneof the things that we talked about,
like you'll act on or maybe evenjust sound like, you know, sound
intuitive and smart in your NBA draftconversation. So we're happy to help on
that fashion as well. Two flagplants brother Jabari chat Polo in that order,
(40:53):
number two. If Johnny Davis hitsat nine or lower, just blocking
right now. Yeah, I don'twant so hand in the top ten as
well, So that's where I'm flattingmy flag as well. All right,
listeners, Selatra got Selatsia. Cheersyou safe side.
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