Are the Parents Entertaining Us in 'Parents Weekend'? | Book Chat #BuddyRead - Shelf Addiction Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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And by Alex Finlay. The audiobook is narrated by Brittany Presley,
published on May fifth, twenty twenty five, by Minottar Books
and McMillan Audio. The hardcover is three hundred and twelve
pages and the unabridged audio is seven hours and twenty
four minutes. Classy, would you kindly share the synopsis?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Absolutely In the glow of their children's exciting first year
of college at a small private school in northern California,
five families plan on a night of dinner and cocktails
for the opening festivity of parents' weekend. As the parents
stay out way past their bedtimes, their kids, five residents
of camp can pc hall. I believe that's how you

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pronounce it. Never show up at dinner. At first, everyone
thinks they're just being college students, irresponsibly forgetting about the
gathering or skipping out to go to a party. But
as the hours click by in another night falls with
not so much as a text from the student's panic ensues.
Soon the campus police call in reinforcements, search parties are formed,

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Reporters swarm the small enclave, Rumors swirl, and questions arise.
Libby Blaine Mark Felix and Stella. The Five, as the podcasters, bloggers,
and tiktoks loose call them, come from five very different families.
What led them out on this fateful night? Could it

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be the sins of their mothers and fathers come to
cause them peril? Or a threat to the friend group
from within? Told through multiple points of view in past
and present, marking the return of FBI special Agent Sarah
Keller from Every Last Fear and The Night Shift Parents,
Weekend explores the weight of expectations family dysfunction in those

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exhilarating first days we all remember in the dorms, when
our friends become our family. Great synopsis, I'll say, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Pretty good, mm hmmkay, as we do high level.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Don't you know. I was left with, oh, okay, it
was nothing exciting high level. I would just say that
was a good little story. I could see it being
a little decent Netflix Limited series that I would just
watch and maybe even play in the background.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah. Sorry, So for me, I didn't love it. The
best part of it was that Sarah Keller was in here.
I said, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I wanted to text you and I was like, I wait.
I was like, did you get to, I.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Was like, oh my god, she's back. But the other
book I wanted to read by him that came out
before this also has her in it.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
So cause did you read Every Last Feyear?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
No, it was on my list, but I hadn't gotten
to it.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Okay, so yeah it's this one. Yeah. So I remember
from the Night Shift when she was pregnant with the twins.
So yeah. But when when they mentioned that, I was like,
oh my god, I was excited for her.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I do love her character. I still like her. She
is the best thing about the story. M h.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yes, I was like, forget the vibe what Sarah came
to the story and I knew exactly who she was.
I mean granted her story period, you know, like I
did like the way Alex brought her in because it
wasn't to solve, you know, the case of the five.

(05:17):
It was brought in because of the security detail for
the senator, right, the mother, and I think she's somebody
in Senate Stephanie Blaine's mom. That's why.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh okay, yeah she asked for her, right.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, she asked well because of you know, she was
an FBI agent. So the missing children really wasn't the
five that wasn't the reason why she really came into
this story. It was because of that uh Stephanie, that's
her name, right.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, so I got that different. So what I had
thought was, you know, she's she's new in that area.
Right there there vis true dad, so he was the weekend.
She wasn't even supposed to be working. They said, hey,
go over to the college. There's something going on. We
have this high level profile person. Yes, they're like, girl,

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you're doing too much. Take a seat, exactly that part.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
And then yeah, yeah, yeah, the high well and the
high profile it was judge A. Kanna and you know,
so as you had those two high profile people. So
but yeah, I do like that. That's you know, kind
of how she was brought into the story. It wasn't

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a direct line of oh god, there's five missing kids,
because yeah, yeah, I did like that.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah that was nice. Slow though, and I really hate
a slow start, especially when it takes so long. And
this book is not big, it's not long now, but
I just could not. I'm like, what the hell is
going on? It just took so much. And then the

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roundtable of all the parents, and I knew why we
were getting that. We needed that information, but I just
really wasn't enjoying it that well.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Now I remember you saying that I just the characters
were not you were not invested, which I mean you
can like a story without being invested in the characters
or even caring about them or liking them. But I
did get your point. I think what got me the

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first it was slow. I agree it was slow, but
I think the thing that drew me in was the
missing girl. That's what I was really looking for. Where
was she at? And then once we found out that
she was dead, then it took you know, that turn

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into the kidnapping, and then it was like, oh, and
you're right. We had to delve into not just the
five students, but the five parents. So you have ten
parents basically because and well, I will say nine parents
because what's his name, Mark Mark? We only learned about

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his dad, not his mother, but the other you know parents,
It was the two parent family, even though one was divorced,
but we did learn from each of those. So you
have nine parents and then five students, and then you
have so well, there was a lot of characters. Let's
cut to the chase. There was a lot of damn characters,

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and I.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Say, almost too many characters. I it took a lot.
I think it was good that the chapters were headed
with their last name, so you kind of know we're
talking about the Kellers. Now we're talking about and made.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You pay attention. I love that. I love when an
author does that because yeah, because I think there were
different narrators, am I right?

Speaker 1 (09:11):
No, it was one lady.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It was just Brittany.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yep, Brittany probably.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Who who has definitely moved and we've listened to a
lot of books by Brittany. I would put her up
there with one of my narrators that I really enjoy.
So I do like Brittany. I know we didn't get
to that part yet, but that did help for me
to pay attention when they would say the Alkadas or
the killers or whatever, because you do. I did tune

(09:40):
out after a little bit because it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
where's the kids. Okay, they're telling me stories. Where's the kids.
I was just like, let's get back to the kids, right.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah. The parents were all kind of very interesting but
also dull at the same time. I wanted to spend
more time with his and when we switched to the
five That got interesting when we got a chapter here
or there with them. But I wanted more chapters. I
wanted a better chance to figure out who did it,

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who kidnapped them, because honestly, the way the story unfolded,
it kind of felt to me like it was a
dump at the end, like there wasn't enough there for
me to even figure out who the kidnapper was. It
was just exactly yeah, there were no strings.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It was like suppose, yeah. There were no context clues,
there were no little Easter eggs, there was nothing that
gave us a clue until Bob's sister made a comment
and Sarah thought about it basically, and she was like,

(10:58):
who would have the motive? And that's the only way this,
you know, it was solved. It was resolved at the end,
and it was and it was just like I figured
it out, let's go, let's run, And I was like,
are you kidding me? This is how we're going to
end this book.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, so we have to figure out, well, Sarah had
to figure out who kidnapped the children, and then it
ended up being well, who killed the original girl that
was missing?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Right, But prior to that, we had to go through
everybody yeah, from each family, because, as the synopsis said,
the sins of their mothers and fathers did they come
to cause them peril. So we had to deal with
the sins of the mothers and fathers, and in each sin,

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someone from their life could possibly be a kidnapper.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Right, if you want. We can round rop in those
if you want. They are the main characters. I guess
it is parents weekend. It is parents weekend totally.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
So and and and now that we say this out loud,
which is still a little it's not ironic because Natasha's
parents didn't come for parents Weekend, but they are our parents.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Well, that's because she was not in the same capstone
with the five. We're all in the same Yeah, I'm
glad you remember. And Natasha was there already, which is
why the one kid, when he was confronted by the
dad later, he's like, I didn't even go here last year.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
You're right, you're right the freshman and Natasha is older. Okay,
that's right, because Libby and Castella introduced Libby in the
crew to her, and she looked up to Natasha because
she thought she was Yes, okay, see thy Keifer refreshing
my memory.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Oh, of course, no problem. So let's start off with
the Roosevelts. So that's Blaine's mom. She's a state a
department official. Poor Blaine was murdered, not murdered, He's not murdered.
He was kidnapped when he was a child. And then

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obviously his parents have a horrible marriage. The dad can't
keep it in the pants.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Now did that? Now did the dad he had an affair?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, the guy is the one who her her husband
was the one that kept flirting with everyone and went
for the walk on the beach.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
No, that's the one who couldn't keep it in his pants.
Was the the plastic surgeon. That was Stella's dad, the
male Donado's blamed Blaine's dad, which the mom is the
senate right.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Oh, he was the one that showed up when he
wasn't supposed to.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Right, he showed up on his and he was author
and yeah and lost his deal or he couldn't produce
the second book or something.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, it's like he lost his luster. Yeah, he was
the one that showed up on campus when he wasn't
supposed to be there. It was her weekend and he
just showed up. So at first he was a person
of interest for two seconds when they were like, hey,
we saw you on the camera. So that's Blaine's situation.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
And right, and Blaine was kidnapped because somebody was trying
to scare them out or for ransom or something. Right,
but nothing came out of it.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, I don't remember the details, but it was some
kind of state thing going on where she had either
identified something or something and it was just it was something.
And then since then she's had a couple of threats
and all of this, and that poor kid, he's like,
what's a likelihood you'll get kidnapped again? Abducted again?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Twice?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Construck by lightning twice?

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Ye? Kid? So stella, who are the Maldonas Maldonis? I
guess Maldonados. Thank you. He's the plastic surgeon who flirts
with everyone. It has a big problem with infidelity.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yes, and he's assistant.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yes, he slept with his assistant. That what was she
a nurse or something? She was a nurse. She was
a nurse yea or nstesiologist or something. She was somebody
that he worked with. And that guy, her husband found
them like cheating out in the wild, pulled a gun

(15:43):
and he committed you know, the.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
D helived himself.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Alived himself, and to top it off, her son saw
the dad unlive him himself. So he had an ax
to grind against David because you know, my dad's gone
and you were messing with my mother, so.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
You're the reason behind this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, So her son, the nurse or whatever her job was,
you know here, he is on this campus as well.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, and he I don't think he was a student.
He just happened to show up, am I right? Yeah, yeah,
he wasn't a student at whatever this is Northern California school.
But Miss Maldonado saw him. She's like, I think that's him,

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but I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, So he was a possible suspect in the kidnapping
of the five because, as you stated, he had an
ex grind he wanted to take possibly an eye for
an eye.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well in the end, and you know, he did hurt someone, right,
He tried to come for the plasti surgeon on the beach.
Wasn't that him who tried to attack him? And then
they were like and then you know because he fell,
Remember he was in the hospital. He got out, he
was fine, they said Hey, this kid ended up wanting
to unlive himself as well. But then Sarah was like,

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they don't want to press charges. It's we keep It'll
be okay, you know. And he actually almost did until
she jumped on him like a crazy lady as she does,
I'm jumping off the Golden gate bridge, right. So yeah,
so that was that he I think they did arrest

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him though, but at the end he got a happy ending.
It seemed like he was doing okay in the end.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
So Libby's parents the Akanas. She's got the judge dad
and they she has a sibling that died to cancer.
M and I think the mom had an affair as well.
She had interfere with a guy who was obsessed with her.
He turned into a stalker, right, a police officer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah. And Libby with the cancer brother, she felt like
she had to be perfect because her parents was especially
her mom spent most of her time trying to well
dedicated to the sick son, and Libby felt a little
left out. To her, her coping mechanism was to be perfect.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
So yeah. On their way up to visit Libby for
parents' weekend, their tires were slashed at a coffee shop,
three tires and they weren't sure what happened to come
to find out was the cop and he became a
suspect because.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yep, because they found a tracker.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
He wanted her and he wanted missus o'canna and him
to run away.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
He loved her.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Leave your husband, psycho.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, she actually, you know, tried to save for her
husband when he showed up for her and tried to
get her to leave with him. And of course he
had to be the hero. He's like, my wife, right, you.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Know, don't bring your ass up here, and he was like, hmmah,
watch this.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
But you go up for them. It worked out. They're
all happy, lovey dovey. Yes, in the future they managed
the same.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I guess right, I guess we should have mentioned that
at the end of the marriages, the Maldonado's divorced.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yep, right.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
So who else did we talk about Blaine's parents? I
think they just wind up co parenting better and okay,
and we talked about Libby, so yeah, So now we
just got Mark and Felix. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
So Felix his mother works for the university's dean and
she left the abusive husband years ago, like she fled
and the story was kind of sad.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, it really was. Felix was considered a scholarship kid.
He was a loner, a different kind of kid who
didn't talk until later on in life. And his mom
kept promising things would be different, you know, that's what
you know. And they were talking and the while they're
being kidnapped and possibly led to their to their doom,

(20:39):
you know, they were just telling different little stories about themselves.
And he said his mom kept telling him it'd be
different in high school, you know, kids treat you different,
and it wasn't it, And it'll be different in college,
and it did become a little different. He's I think
he found his found family, you know, he kind of
blossomed and come to find out, he he stole some

(21:01):
kind of file that his mother had and that was
like the big secret there because, like you said, his
mom is the dean secretary and she had access to
some that report, the Creeps Report, I think that's what
it was called. And Felix or Felix had taken the

(21:22):
Creep Report or something so and in the end, I'll
let you finish that part.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Well. Unfortunately, Felix did not make it. He was the
one who was accused by Natasha's parents of like harassing
her because you know, he kind of had what carried
through all of his years where like people kind of
said he was a creep, right, Like he just got

(21:47):
that label and couldn't get rid of it, and so.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
He was socially awkward.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, and actually one of the girls in the group
really liked him, so yeah. Yeah. So in the end,
his mother on graduation day said I'm going to start over.
She just walked out of her job. I'm like, look
good for you.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, because her boss was an asshole.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
You like, go to CBS and get some cookies.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Or some shit, I know, And I'm like, do you
and not realize this woman is thinking about her dad's
son who should have been graduating with this class, and
all you could think about is getting some nut allergy
free whatever desserts for the speaker. And she got her person,
got the fuck out of there, like the most important day.

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I was like, good for you.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I guess she told her son, you know, they would
start fresh, right, and she said this is me. I
get to start fresh again.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, that walked out of there. I don't blame her.
I don't know how she stayed there for all the
following three years, right, yeah, yeah, because that time jump.
We had a time jump y'alls after the thing was revealed,
and a time jump to head to graduation day. Okay.
So also Mark, he's the last one. So Mark, his

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mom is deceased, I think, And he's the one that
had a father who was involved with a sexual assault
of minors and then he was like that just was
like a shadow over him.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
M h.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, he could not shake that.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Now he got labeled on the creep list as well.
Yeah yeah, and again his dad was a possible suspect.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Right, and Mark and Blaine ended up being really close friends.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah. So were they roommates, Well, I know they were
frat pledges together, but I don't know why. I think
they possibly were roommates as well.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
But I'm not sure. I know they were in the
same fraternity's.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah. So those are the five. And actually it's really
crazy how they kind of got labeled that because of
the list you were talking about, like the creep list,
but this creep list was a result of Natasha posting
it on a website. So this school had like some

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kind of like web app or something that the students used,
and it was almost where you could just post anonymously
all kind of stuff about people, like gossip girl style
but in and out.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Riz, right, was it like the Riz or something.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, So after she wrote that, it's like, all of
a sudden, you know, we had this. It kind of
came out how that occurred, and it was really goofy
because so I think was it Stella who ended up
running her mouth to her?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yes, yes, because Stella is the one who introduced them,
Natasha to them, because Natasha was in, you know, into drugs,
and Stella was like, hey got these psychedelics, Natasha. You know,
so because she was trying to base get with the
cool kids, and she she kind of did. She ran
her mouth off to Natasha trying to impress her, and

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Natasha kind of ran with it and exaggerated a few things.
But there was a you know, she even accused her
professor of being a creep. So it was the five
well not yeah, everybody was on that list, right.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, they had the professor on there, but I don't
think he was called the professor. He was just something.
And then like they's somebody. Yeah, and then the others
were like not accomplices, but like I forgot the word
that the author used, but it's basically like people who

(25:47):
kind of they're not maybe not creeps directly, but they're
friends of the creeps or you know, they a lot
kind of helped people get into these bad situations. I
can't remember the exact verbage she used, friends of the creeps,
kind of like the friends. I mean, she accused him
and he was he was doing the deed he did.

(26:10):
I have to say, though, so when the professor when
agents Keller aka Sarah went to talk to the professor
because he I don't remember how she flagged him. She
was in his class or something. How does she flag
him to go talk to him? What was the catalyst
for that? Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I think when they look at the records he had
been accused. When when they looked at some kind of records,
because she worked with the campus security, and I believe
this professor was listed on that. No, you know who
was who told the intern Anna Anna had mentioned that

(26:54):
she knew who the professor was, but it was I can't,
like you said, I can't remember if he was called
the professor, but he was mentioned and I think they
dug a little deeper, or she found out something on
TikTok or the riz who the professor actually was, and

(27:18):
then she said, so she went and confronted him. Sarah
confronted him, but I mean she knew exactly who Oh
it might have been. Did they mention the class? It
was something with the class too, So I can't remember
the class was mentioned in the post, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Not sure if the class was. Maybe it was because
maybe that's how she was able to trace it back.
M And then of course he came with a good story.
When she shows up, He's there with his wife and
a young baby, and he gives this, Really, you know,
I gave her so many chances. She kept skipping my class, right,

(27:57):
you know, really made it seem like she was had
something going on with her. Natasha had issues, and unfortunately
Sarah was like, well, I kind of believe him, you know,
she did believe him.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, I mean he did. He gave a good alibi.
I'm trying to help her and she keeps missing classes
and now we know possibly why because you were stalking her.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, I mean you want to come to class. H Yeah,
I don't know why she didn't just drop that freaking class.
I don't care. Look if you need to get away
from that man, you dropped the class. Even if they
say it's too late to get your money back, I
don't care.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I'm risking it all.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I'll take the incomplete overtaking, a fail or whatever happens. Like, yeah, yes,
I'm risking girl Natasha, girl get away.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah. But yes, Sarah believed him. I mean he did.
He had a good story. Looks like, you know, a
young professor. I tried to teach them that you can't
accuse people, you know, because it was a Civics class,
so he was, you know, telling them the perils of
when you accuse someone or falsely accused them, what can happen.

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And I believe Sarah had a little heart for him
because he was a father of twins and she's the
mother of twins. So I think that kind of jaded
her judgment a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I honestly did. She's up there rocking one of the
babies and putting the baby down. I'm like, you are
just too doing too much. These people are not your friends.
What's going on now? I'm not going to walk into
someone house. Hey, I need to question your husband, but hey,
let me help you put one of your twins down.
They're a little whiny. I'll just be sitting there so

(29:43):
that babies were put.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Down, I'll wait for you guys.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, like, come on, Sarah, get together, lady.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah. But in that moment, she realized too. You know,
she looked in the nursery and saw how beautiful the
nursery was painted. It was hand painted. He had an
artist come in and paint the walls with beautiful butterflies,
and the wife said, he calls me his butterfly. I
was like, oh sweet. But you know what I immediately

(30:13):
thought of, because you know, I've worked in higher ed
and I've seen these professors and how they run through
these young girls. And I was like, I wonder if
his wife was one of his students.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, she was young, she's young.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I bet she was young. Yeah, because they did mention
how young she was, and I was like, m I
bet she was one of his students. They didn't say
how young.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
But yeah, but those those painted walls came back later,
So I guess it was a good thing she ended
up in that nursery because she would have never made
the connection later because okay, we can go on, but
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(31:19):
we kind of talked about the professor, so when Natasha died,
of course, you know, have you ever heard of I
can't even think of the podcast name now, but it's
a true crime podcast and they always say they have
this little hook at the beginning and they're like, you
can't trust county. No, I've never heard of that one,

(31:41):
And that's the great time podcast. I actually like them.
And they always talk about how if you leave it
up to the county Sheriff's department whatever, the little county people,
they will fuck up a murder and get every time.
I agree, and that is exactly kind of what happened here.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm thinking of my county.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yes, yeah, you can't trust county because gave the phone,
her phone back to the parents, Like that is evidence,
you're gonna give it back?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, immediately, Yeah, immediately, And that is crazy. Did the
county do it or did the school do it?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, no, because the phone was with her when she
was on her person.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
That's right. So the university wouldn't have done that part. Yep, Ye,
you're right, yep.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
So, and that was the catalyst, believe it or not.
A phone, A phone was the catalyst for all of this.
Hearing messages, seeing messages, digging into your daughter's personal life
in a way you probably shouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, but they wanted answers. He wanted to know what
was her last conversation. But you would think, like you said,
don't trust county. You would think the police, that's what
they would do. But they believed it was an accidental drowning,
so they had no reason. But I mean, I was
just so quick to it was fast, yeah, to make

(33:09):
a decision.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
It was way too fast.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
So I still no, I did not go back and listen.
But I still don't one hundred percent exactly know how
she ended up in the cave. So I know where
they were all on the beach kind of drinking and
taking drugs, so everyone was kind of aft up. The
boys wanted to get back at Natasha for calling them

(33:36):
creeps and doing something else, so they had some kind
of prank where they put blood on her or something.
So I guess she was knocked out, right. She was
not passed out from too much drugs and alcohol, right.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
She was passed out. And at that point, Felix Felix, right,
Felix thought she was dead because he saw the blood.
He didn't know that Blaine and Mark had put fake
blood on her, so he thought she was dead, so
he carried her. He picked her up and carried her

(34:13):
somewhere because he didn't want his friends to get in
trouble for killer.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
But he didn't put her in the cave.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
He didn't put her in the cave. She They think
she woke up, and I think she either from now
this is the part where I'm kind of getting a
little fuzzy, because the professor said he called that she
called him because I think she woke up in a

(34:40):
daze because she was, you know, still under the influence
and didn't know where she was. And he I guess
she may have gave him her location or whatever, and
he went down to the beach and he's the one
who placed her in the cave.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Hmm yeah, okay, because I'm like, did he just put
her in there? Was she knocked out again? Did he?
Did he follow her in? Did she walk in? And
he like, I'm like that part was kind of fuzzy.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, because right, because in the cause, well yeah, I
think he did. Because in the recording, because her father
plays the recording back and he's and it's saying, hello,
who's out there? And then all of a sudden she
recognizes who it is and she's like, get away, don't
come towards me. So I'm believing he, you know, pushed

(35:34):
her in there, knowing, you know, high tide was coming
and left her there.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I'm like, why didn't you just run out? I
mean that just seemed a little weird to me, Like, well,
she was still.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
High, so you know, she may have been a little
you know, out of it, not especially if you wake
up in a place that you don't know and in
a cave or close to but she.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Had enough sense to hit record on her phone.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Okay, okay, plot discover holes, right, plot hole discoverer, But
she was smart enough to like do that and not
just that and then put it back in her plastic No,

(36:21):
not in the plastic protection.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
She had.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
So let's let's bookmark that. Because did you listen to
the end of the book when he talked about credits
and all that. Okay, So, yeah, that's that's funny that
you say that, because I was like, what other plot
holes are some things that you know, we're kind of odd.
So but yeah, she did have enough sense to hit

(36:49):
record and then put it in her waterproof cell phone
case and was able to preserve all the footage on
her phone, although she drowned.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, so yeah, that was pretty interesting. I mean, that
was uh, I don't know, I.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Guess we sound so enthusiastic here.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
I know it's a mess, but you know, I just
feel like Alex really wanted something punchy for the end
and it just didn't really hit the way I needed
it to. And it was again like he just threw
everything in the kitchen sink at the end and it

(37:37):
didn't quite just it didn't deliver I think what he
wanted it to.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
No, And like we were saying too at the end,
the way that we discovered who the kidnappers were, dear listener,
is she was talking with her sister in law about,
you know, kind of with the case, and the sister
in law was like, if someone did that to my

(38:05):
family or someone I love, I would want them to
pay as much as you know, I would want them
to hurt as much as you know, my family hurt.
And that's when Sarah it hit her. Who would want
these people dead or to hurt the way their loved one?
And that's when she it hit her and the reader too,

(38:28):
Oh my god. It's as Tasha's parents to her, their
daughter died and they want revenge. And like you said,
throughout the story, there was no inkling. There was no
nuggets or easter, nothing dropped in this story to let
us know who could have been the kidnappers. And and

(38:54):
this really to me, I think this is the thing
that really bugged me with this. There was you know
how like they say plot twist, This wasn't even this
didn't even feel like a plot twist. It wasn't. It
was just like, huh, exactly, Okay, yeah, that's how I felt.
And at that point, we're at what like eighty five

(39:16):
ninety percent, if not further, and I'm just like, oh, yeah,
I guess, so, yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
After you just you just.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Hit me with probably twenty possible suspects, right yeah, because right,
because we're trying to figure out who killed Natasha and
who kidnapped the people the five. So, like we said,
we had the parents and you know, all these different characters,
the ten parents or the nine parents, and then if

(39:48):
we think about that, the nine parents, and then they're
possible suspects. So that's at least, you know, one of
each from the couple. It was just was a freaking lot.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, it was a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
And I was surprised at how many people died in
this story. Yeah, I was like, oh there's another one. Oops.
I did not I'm not kidding. I did not expect.
I did not expect Felix.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Such murder.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And mayhem. I did not expect Felix to die because
I thought, you know, the dad, he told Natasha's dad,
I'll take you to doctor Doom or whatever. She called him,
doctor whatever. So I'm thinking, here, this kid, like, why
did Felix die? Did the dad say, yeah, thanks for
telling me who doctor whatever is in poof? Because when

(40:45):
we see them at the story, Felix is already on
the ground dead, and I'm like, what.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
The hell right, I want to know why miss something?
How did he die?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Why?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
And why he had to take him there. All he
had to say was it's this professor.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
He was trying to redeem himself because he felt like
if he didn't move her, that I know he had
a guilty conscience because he felt like if he didn't,
he was like, I'm going to say, I'm going to
fix this. Basically because he thought she was dead. He
didn't know, so he felt like, I need to redeem
I need to get this straight.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Well, he also wanted them to let his friends out
of the cave, so they were kind of standing there
holding them at gunpoint, like you can't come out of
the cave, which also goes back to my other things,
like why the fuck didn't she just walk out the cave?
I'm like, okay. So anyway, so.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
He was old their psychedelics was psychedelic.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Ing, they were doing something and so alcohol.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I mean, because I don't know, that's all I'm assuming
because I'm never but I'm thinking like between the drinking
and the drugs, maybe they were just freaking out of
their mind.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, I don't know enough to just pass out on
the beach somewhere and just not even feel someone pick
you up and move you. You're out, Yeah, and not I mean,
how do you not wake up?

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah? But yeah, there was a lot of dead people
this book.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
But it wasn't even scary or creepy.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
It was it was just like, okay, he's gone, and.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Then and another one and another one.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah. I was like okay, you know, but yeah, I
was just really surprised. I mean, I know it's thriller mystery,
but yeah, I did not understand why Felix was was
was killed. But anyway, Natasha's daddy, it was like everybody dies.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I think that's another thing that I was missing. Like
I said, nothing was scary, nothing was ultra creepy. Nothing. Yeah,
I mean we're in bright what Santa Clara or something.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
M hmm.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
It's you know, beaches and teens and college and you know,
something bad happens. But I don't know, I just wanted
the vibes weren't giving me.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, it wasn't scary. They were kidnapped, and.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
But I didn't if it was crazy. So like even
the little things like okay, we see the people driving
the van, the snoopy van, the what was it with
smurfed mask on? Right? And that didn't even creep me
out at all. I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
What is happening? Yeah, that part it was not It
was not it was nothing was maybe it was a
Scooby Doo.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Van meddling kids. It kind of felt like that they
literally ripped off their mask. That part, the mom ripped
off her mask. She tried to persuade the father to
like do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
We knew all the time it was you. That's what
it felt like.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And literally they just had these stupid smurf masks. I'm like,
get out of here. Is that on purpose?

Speaker 2 (44:13):
And so they said, yeah, well they said the mask
word in the back of the van from a previous
frat party, some smurf party. I was like, really, I know.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
But how the reveal came out and then the mask
and the Scoopy Doo van, it just seemed like it
made it fun.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
This past the test and this passed the test. Yeah,
oh my god, the funnier it gets.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, because like not in a good way, and no,
not in a good way. Because so again I did
not read the other book I did not read, what
was it ever? Eat Last Fear? But the shift had
like a dark undertone.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
It was it really was.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
It wasn't funny like this, I don't.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
I don't remember nothing being funny.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
No, So Every Last Fear I don't know if that
had a dark undertone or not. I'm hoping, I mean so,
like the quote of the first thing was they found
the bodies on a Tuesday. So that's pretty creepy. So
that's every last line.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I know Natasha was found. Well, no, we didn't know
Natasha was missing. We didn't find her. Yeah, that's how
she's The story started with her, okay.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
And then it was kind of just told via the
school correspondence that, oh, the chick drowned in a cave.
You know, So we didn't even have first hand interaction
with finding her or anything. No, So I am that
makes me curious to see what Every Last Fear was about.

(45:58):
And I I suspect again Sarah Keller is going to
be the highlight of that book.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
M h. Yeah, but even though she's like a secondary character,
she really plays a key her key role. But I
did want to mention how you you bought that plot
hole up of her having enough Natasha being her having

(46:26):
enough sense to record then put it in her waterproof
phone case. So at the end of the story, at
the end of the story, you know, I wanted to
say David, but him and David Ellis are friends. Alex mentioned,
you know, his previous book there were a lot of

(46:47):
mistakes and he had received emails from people saying, Doug,
that doesn't happen. You missed some things, you know, x
y Z, and he said he hoped he did better.
So you know, I was like, so, after all that,
you would think he would even do better with this one.

(47:12):
And I'm like, and I mean the people that he
talked to procedural wise, I would think I think he
probably got some of the things right, like the data,
the what was the one thing they put the neo
something they couldn't get because of some laws. Was it phone?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Oh gosh, some kind of so they need they needed
to like it had something to do with the phone.
And actually that was kind of interesting where they had
to go to the judge to get a warrant to
get the stuff from the phone. And actually that was
the catalyst that had uh what's her face want? Sarah
on the job because you know, like you never sent

(47:57):
a man to do a woman's job.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Oh, that's right, because she knew. She knew some things that.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, you know, how to talk to the judge to
get the warrant, Like there were things that he needed
to say that the local guy can't trust county, the
local guys.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
That lawyer, the lawyer that said, let me do all
the talking.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, you couldn't do it, Like, yeah, sir, I know
more than you like. And she didn't want to step
on anyone's toes. But she's like, he's losing it.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah, because her her boss had literally told her, we
need you to be low key because you know, you're
all over the internet if they're trying to save someone
about to commit on the lave of themself on the bridge. Yeah,
so you know, like some of the procedural stuff because
he said, you know, he spoke to some FBI agents,
I think campus security over Georgetown University and some other things.

(48:49):
But some of these little things that you know that
we're picking up on. It's just like like you said,
like she couldn't just walk out the cave. Granted it
was on psychedelics, but to record. So if you can't
walk you have enough sense to record because I mean
that's hand eye coordination. That's some you know that that takes.

(49:14):
That's like walking almost like that. Fine, when you're drunk,
can you walk the line, ma'am? You know there's certain
things that when you're just so out of it, it's
like drunk texting, right, I mean you know so, But yeah,
he mentioned, Hey, the book before this one, which I'm
assuming is that one you just mentioned. Is it every

(49:37):
last year or yeah? Not sure what was before.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I wish he would like kind of tag these in
a way so we know that this is the if
you go on his website.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
If you go on his website, I think his books
are listed in order if you go under books, because
I didn't realize he wrote a book before Night Shift.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
But I think Nightshift was the first time Sarah Keller appears.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
She's the first one.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, And there was also if something happens to me,
I don't know if that has Sarah Keller in in Ornet.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
No, Sarah wasn't in there.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
That was.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
A local don't trust the local county. That was the
local girl where I think her dad was a police officer.
And she came back from the military. Okay, you remember
that one, and she she was like a small town
sheriff or deputy or something.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I'm like, I just read that. I gave it four stars.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Remember it, we read it, we did it on our podcast. Yeah,
I'm like it was decent that it was.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, because the night Shift got a four and if
something happens to me got a four.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Right. So when you look on his page and go,
you know, under books, at think it shows in order
Keller Keller.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I'm just trying to do.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I think Keller only shows up in night Shift in
that Fear book from what I well, in the synopsis,
I just read it mentions so and usually the synopsis
comes from the publisher, right usually, so, yeah, she was
mentioned there. Sarah Keller shows up in every Last Fear

(51:28):
in the night Shift.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Okay, so just put this in release date order.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
But the thing is is that's where Sarah Keller shows up.
But he mentioned in acknowledgements or the you know, the
last page he mentioned the book before this one is
the one where he made a lot of mistakes that
people emailed him about.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
That's called what have We Done?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Okay, So that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so what have
we done? He said. He he made some mistakes and
I think some and someone of high ranking or some
kind of official kind of pointed out to him, Hey,
that's not how that's done. And this is when he

(52:15):
enlisted more experts. So, I mean, I don't think I
want to read it, but I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I'm curious too.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I know, like, what the hell did you like it?
I know now I'm curious, like that might just be
one of those one offs. Yeah, I'm curious to see
if if we could spot it, especially after reading this
one and kind of going back.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
M h.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I don't know. I think it might be a good
you know, when you're not doing anything and I have
a little downtime, you see how many pages that book
would be. I know, will I remember? But yeah, but
I mean I was just it had to be very
important for him to mention it at the end of

(53:06):
the book and to say, hey, if I got any
other mistakes, email me. Well, he said, email David Ellis.
I thought was funny.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
He went and got the judge to help him clear
some things up.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
He said, ABK instant friends. I was like, I could
see that, but yeah, but I also found out that
most of his books have already been slotted to you know,
to go to film.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yea, including Parents Weekend.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I know, but I could see be an option. Yeah,
I could see that, even you know it's not that great,
I could see it be an option for it.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
So yeah, I saw that everything that he basically has
written has been optioned. But we know, just because this
option doesn't mean it's going to make it to the screen. No,
I am curious because I think that there's some really
good stuff here. He definitely has one care that is
the through line through three of his books. So if
someone wanted to make a TV series, they could do

(54:07):
a multiple seasons with multiple books using one character as
the centerpoint. And she's the best part of the books.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, yes she is.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
So I mean I would watch. I would definitely watch.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, especially if Sarah, if they focus on Sarah, and
I would love to see what comes out of a
little intern and yeah that could be fun, which he
said is based on you know, someone he really met,
So yeah I would I would too. Like I said,
some things are I can see because they'll they'll you know,

(54:47):
tone down some of the minutia they up Definitely, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
They'll realign the focuser needs to be, you know, kind
of like they did with the Bil Trust stuff. They
really lightened up that show. They up, They change a lot,
but it's still good.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah. Oh they lightened up because karens we know she
is dark like her therapist if she has one.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
But anyway, you know what's interesting Also in those acknowledgements,
I'm like, wow, all the people we read, they just
all know each other. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Right. Yeah, when he started naming people and they're probably
all in their little writing groups because they all write
mystery thriller. But yeah, it was it was cool to
hear kind of like make it. I was like I
kind of miss going to, you know, a nice mystery thriller.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I almost I feel like I almost would or something
like it.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Mm hmmm. And yeah talking about that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yeah, because I'm like, there's so fantasy, so many bro
means things. Come on me the Goren guts, give me
the thriller and mystery.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Right, there's sci fi all that, like, come on, there's
we are out here and we want the stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Get some big names and not and not.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
All the old footy, duody white men.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I'm sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
No, I'm not sorry, Yeah, I mean yeah, like, introduce
us to some new, up and coming, diverse mystery thriller.
Give me some new stuff and make it reader focused
because a lot of those are more writer focused.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
But that's what they need.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
But if Alex is there, I mean I would enjoy
you know, Alex and David Ellis and.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
And yeah and kr So we met her.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Mm hmmm, yeah, she'd be like what me, Yes, you,
we know you, we know you speaking.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I mean, all the authors we met. We met Essay Cosby.
He was nice.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Oh yeah, yes, I got his. Well, I know we
talked about Alex, but I got his got his new
book today, So I'm excited for that.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yes, I don't do it.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I know I'm not. I'm not. I'm not in the
whole time.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
All right, let's rate it. We still haven't read the book.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Let's rate I know we didn't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Let's rate parents weekend. I gave it a three same, yeah, yeah,
three it is.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
It was a solid three.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, I mean I was I was hoping for a
four or five. I really, I think I had my
expectations too high. I shouldn't have done that well.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
And you know, I think when we picked this book
because when you look at the rating now, it's three
point five, and to be honest, I don't think we
would have picked a book at that blow over rating.
So I think it's you know, because it came out
what didn't come out in March or May?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, it came out May six, so it hasn't been
from our recording date. It's been just over a month. Wow,
and it's been.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
We had picked this book, but we had picked the
book before. Yeah, and that's arcs and.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
You know those always tend to skew higher just because
arcs yep.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
And now the real I won't say the real readers,
but the ones who aren't afraid or we're gonna give honest,
honest reviews, honest honest reviews, that's when those ratings change.
And they definitely have they have.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
It has skewed down for sure. But you know, I
still think he's definitely not an autoby author for me,
but he's one that I will look at again. I'll
give it another go and.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
See he's not a Rileyger No, No, I won't. I'm
not going to give up on him. But because I mean,
he's hit her, you know what I mean? Like he's
hit or miss. This is probably I think I gave
Night Shift of three, but it was you know, it
was not a low three, but it was a three.
And then the book we read before I gave before.

(59:27):
So but yeah, I believe he writes good characters, you know,
unlike the other person I just talked about. He always
writes female characters, and I don't enjoy the way he
writes them.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
So yeah, yeah, oh we were talking about Riley by
the way.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Finley, No, not Alex Riley.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Riley writes female characters every story is. His main characters
are females. And yeah, just like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Right for me. Don't give it a try, give it
a try.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I don't do that ship. What woman you know does that?
I mean, I know, but anyway, that's me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I know, smart women who don't do dumb shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yes, took the words out of my mouth. I was
thinking that exactly. Okay, I think we're going to end
things there. We've had enough of parents weekend. Yes, we
do have a new book already slotted. We're not going
to tell you have to join us on book clubs
or follow us on one of our socials or join

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us on guess what, the Patreon people already know and
so they know before everyone else. So if you want
to join on Patreon.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yeah, you can get a heads up, you know, foe
always real.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yeah, and you can actually you know, we're gonna be
reading one of the recommendations from a Patreon member, so
you know, it's AOK place to hang out. It's a
good place to be. So if you want more, that's
where you need to go. Yes, yeah, all right, So
we're gonna end things there. Thanks again for listening to
the entire episode. We appreciate you for doing that and

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