Exploring 'All Systems Red' aka Murderbot!: Book vs TV Adaptation

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, book lovers, Welcome back to shelf Addiction, the podcast
where we dive deep into the pages of thriller and
fantasy reads. I'm your host, Tamar, and today we are
doing a popular science fiction fan favorite, All Systems read
the first book in the murder Bot Diaries, and we
are comparing it to its Apple TV adaptation. But first,
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you're listening. And speaking of community, I am thrilled to
welcome back by fantasy and romance writer Di co host
Casey from Heart Full of Ink. Welcome back, Casey.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hello, Hello, I'm so excited to be here with you,
like always.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, so I'm glad you're here. Can talk about the
interesting aspects of all these people. Okay, so you guys.
You can find us both online and all the usual spots.
The links for everything are in the show notes, click around,
do all the things. We appreciate you doing that. And
of course, before we begin, we want to remind you that,
as always with book chats, we talk full spoilers here,

(01:21):
so spoiler alert you've been borned. Today we are discussing
the audio and graphic audio versions of All Systems Read
by Martha Wells. The graphic audiobook is narrated by a
full cast, and the audiobook is narrated by who Casey
Kevin free Okay. Published May second, twenty seventeen by Tour

(01:42):
Books and Graphic Audio. And do you happen to know
the publisher of the audio. Let me do a real
quick quick look Recorded Books Inc. All right, thank you
Recorded Books Inc. You see you could tell who did what? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oops?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
That book is a forty four pages and the unabridged
audio comes in at two hours and thirty minutes. Ish.
I'm gonna say they're both probably pretty similar. Okay, Casey,
would you kindly share the synapsis.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
All Systems Read is the first tense science fiction adventure
novella in Martha Well's series The Murder Bought Diaries. The
main character is a deadly security doid that has bucked
its restrictive programming and is balanced between contemplative self discovery
and an idle instinct to kill all humans. In a
corporate dominated spacefaring future planetary missions must be approved and

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supplied by the company. Exploratory teams are accompanied by company
supplied security androids for their own safety, but in a
society where contracts are awarded to the lowest bidder, safety
isn't a primary concern. On a distant planet, a team
of scientists are conducting surface tests shadowed by their company
supplied droid, a self aware SEC unit that has hacked

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its own government governor module and refers to itself, though
never out loud, as murder bot, scornful of all humans.
All it really wants to be is left alone long
enough to figure out who it is. But when a
neighboring mission goes dark, it's up to the scientist and
their murder bot to get the truth.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, all right, I have a couple of things that
I'd like to talk about before we even dig into
the stuff real good, Okay, But first, this do our
traditional thing when you finish the audiobook, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, first of all, I messed up because I just
listened to the regular audio book. I brain fearted and
didn't think graphic audio, even though that's what you said.
I just an audiobook, yes, download, so high level. I
typically don't listen to audiobooks, but this one was pretty good.
I like Kevin, He's a good narrator. It was very interesting,

(03:54):
very very short. Yeah, high level. It was good. Not
something I typically read, and I don't know if I'll
read more, but I'm definitely invested in the show.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Okay, So for my point of view, I think that
the graphic audio was pretty good for graphic audio. The
cast was really good. No one rubbed me the wrong way.
Everyone was good, the sounds were appropriate and nothing to

(04:28):
you know, No, none of that is actually pretty decent.
And again, at two and a half hours, it was
something short and sweet, and I'm like you, I'm not
sure I'll continue with the story side of it, the
book side, but I am enjoying the show. So with

(04:49):
that said, about enjoying the show, that's where I'd like
to start, because it I fucked around. Now, Okay, let
me tell you guys, a story. So we originally talked
bought this months and months ago, and then we just
said we put it on a back burner for some reason.
I don't really remember why we did it, but we did.

(05:10):
And then my husband's like, I want to watch this show.
I'm like, oh, okay, I guess I'll watch it. So
this is my number one thing, and I just went
against my own rules when he said he wanted to
watch the show. I should have immediately went and listened
to this immediately, but instead I've watched the show with him,

(05:34):
and I'm like, we are caught up. So by the
time this airs, nine episodes would have aired, I've watched
all nine.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
And then here i am nine episodes deep trying to
listen to this and I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
So I always say I have to read or listen
first and then watch the adaptation, and I did the reverse,
and it's killing me. I'd never a reminder to myself,
do not do this again. Yes, it's like it's bad
to go backwards.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yes, oh yeah, no, anytime you're about to do this,
text me and I will stop you because no, oh no,
I would not be able to stand it if I
did this backwards.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
So look at the beginning of the show, you know,
we get that dramatic scene of like all these people
at like a rave or something so craziest going on,
And then when I started this book, I'm like, wait,
what the fuck happened? And I why Like ten times
I'm like did I miss something? Wait a minute, I'm like,
this is different.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's so different. I know it started there and I
was like, oh my god, are they gonna show him
spoiler alert murdering everybody right away? And I was really like,
oh my god, this is a crazy way to start it.
But then they didn't show the murder, and now they're
just like teasing it. So yeahs yi. I'm halfway through
episode five, like it's literally paused on my TV. I

(06:54):
stopped it five minutes before getting on here because I
wanted to keep going, but I was like, Okay, no,
we need to pause here because we have to record
the podcast. But I'm halfway through episode.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Five, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Honestly, so before I started watching the show, I was like, Okay,
this book is so short. They might do this in
like two maybe three episodes. They're thirty minutes it'll be short.
I assumed because I didn't I wanted to go in blind.
I assumed that they'd like do multiple books in one
season because these books are short, like they're tiny, and

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reading it, you're like, yeah, okay, you could easily summarize
this in like forty minutes or two episodes, like it
could be done right. They added so much to the
TV show and normally I hate that, but it is
actually working. It's actually like really really good. And this
is so rare for me to say, but I love

(07:51):
the TV show more than I like the book.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Same same because after the fact, you know, read listening after,
I'm like, there's a lot myth, I feel like there's
a lot because.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I yeah, no, When I was reading it, I was like, Okay,
she's doing this character's voice incredibly. He's an android who
just does not give a shit, and that voice is
crystal clear and it is perfection. But there was so
much missing. I was like, we're the details, where's the emotion.

(08:24):
It's fun, sarcastic humor, and yeah, I can totally get
behind this android, but I feel like I'm missing the
real story and like that's the whole point of this,
Like the whole point of seeing the story from the
android's point of view. Fantastic, hands down. It should win
all the awards, and it did. It won a Hugo
at one other things like totally totally love that for it.

(08:46):
But as a reader and an editor, I'm like, I
want more. I want the human side of things, and
the TV show is giving me that.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, so I have something else about the comparison between
the two.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, go for it.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
So I know this. It's supposed to be funny. This
show is funny. I'm laughing out loud. I'm chuckling. I'm
having a good time with it. The book nothing dry,
it's the desert, no laughing. I'm like, okay, I'm not
even a chuckle. I'm like, what the hell. I'm very confused.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I think it's because you flipped it, and if you
had read this first, you might have laughed at a
few points because it is it's very dry humor. But
there are a few good lines and the TV show
stole them, and I'm trying to remember, like there was
Oh god, I'm totally blanking on everything because I've just
been stolen at once. But there's been a few lines
where I was like, Okay, they definitely sold this straight
out of the book, and it's really really funny in

(09:42):
the TV show, you know, like I might have chuckled
a little bit in the book, like oh haha, this
is funny. In the TV show, I'm like, wow, this
is like ten out of ten hilarious, right. I think
if you had listened to it first, you might have
found it like a little bit funnier, not as dry
as the Sahara.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Also, that is what again, slap my own hand. I
can't believe I did that because when I'm watching the show,
you know, Kevin's watching it with me, and I'm laughing.
He's looking, he's doing double takes at me. He's like,
oh my god, you're laughing because he knows I'm a
hard sell on comedy. So the fact that I was
just so, I don't know. I guess alex Xander Scarsgard

(10:20):
has done like a really great job. I buytally dry.
Oh yeah, with this personality. Oh yeah, and yeah the
book after it's just a huge mistake, huge mistake. Yep.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, No, I really think if you had read it first,
you would have laughed a little bit, or at least
like enjoyed the story and then you know, with the
TV show would have been like, oh, yeah, this is
so much better.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah. And I also think maybe watching the TV show
has put me off for the rest of the books.
Had I did it the right way by reading it first,
maybe I would have wanted to keep reading to see
what would happen before the TV show came out. But
I did That's not what happened.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I mean, honestly, okay, so I did it the right way.
I listened to it first. I was invested in the
book enough to be like, Okay, yes, I definitely want
to watch the show. This is interesting, but it's not
my typical style, right, Like I'm I'm the romance queen.
I want emotion, I want people falling in love. I

(11:30):
want fun stuff. There's none of that in this book, right.
It's straight up sci fi, just a straight sci fi,
which good for you. Yeah, not my cup of tea.
It was funny and I enjoyed it, but I just
it wasn't enough for me to want to keep going.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, that's fair, and I'll never know because you know, honestly,
to be fair, I don't read a whole lot of
straight sci fi. I really don't. I don't read. I read,
or like you said, it has to have some element
of romance in it, usually for me. So I'm not
really sure how long I would have lasted, but my
soul tells me I would have wanted to read a

(12:12):
little more had the show not wrecked it for me.
I mean, I don't know. I guess it's hard to
say because that's too late to Okay, Yeah, I mean valid.
When I finished the book, I wasn't like, ew, never again,
but I was like, let me watch the show. And
then while I'm watching the show, I'm like, this is
giving me everything I wanted. This is giving me the

(12:34):
human emotion, this is giving me like one of my
favorite things about the show, just to like straight dive
into that are his serials.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
His TV show's serials. In the book, he talks about them,
and it's just kind of like, I'm watching my serials.
It's called this, but there's no description, there's no nothing
to it. He's just like whatever in the TV show,
they're actually playing it for you.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yes, it cuts away and we can cut and.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Then you're watching this sci fi drama like, oh my god,
Jack McBriar, I love him so much, and I just
laugh every time I see him on the screen.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm this is my favorite part of the TV show.
Like this is something TV and movies can do that
books just can't. And I fucking love it. I live
for it.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, I thought it was. Every time he goes through
this show, I'm like, oh my god. And I honestly
can like kind of commiserate with Murder, but like, leave
me a fuckalone. I want to watch TV.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I don't want to do with stupid people. I just
want to watch My TV shows.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Are so ridiculous. I guess I'd better save them or something.
I don't know. It's funny, it's really well done. It is. Yeah,
all the care all the actors I like. I like
the lady that plays Mensa, she's really good. Actually a

(14:06):
lot of them are very very well done. It's just
I don't know. It's just it takes the book to
a whole other level. And I think that it is
faithful to the original story. It just improves it in
all the ways that you just mentioned.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yes, yes, No, it's very faithful to the plot line.
It's very face like. There's small deviations, like you mentioned
the opening scene that's not revealed until much later in
the book, and even then, like he immediately says, this
is what's up, whereas here he's like, I'm murder bot
before he murders anybody, which I was like, excuse me,

(14:47):
why did you pick murder before you've murdered people? That
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
How did he know he would want to be murder
by exactly?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
That doesn't make sense? But that's a nitpicky whatever whatever. Yeah, yeah, no,
it expands everything. It shows what the people are actually doing,
not just him observing the people, but we actually get
to see them interact with each other and have their
emotions and then have the human drama side of it

(15:17):
and starting a threutle and.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, so this is one thing that I could have
done without in the show. I could have done without
the full frontal of nothing you know there now situation.
And I was like, hyde I left. I laughed too,

(15:43):
but I'm like, no, just don't show anything. I just
I don't know. It was kind of funny, but they
showed it like twice and I'm like, no, like.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
You need to see this. We spent four hours in
makeup or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh my gosh. And then they had the whole conversation
about a sexpot versus Like I'm like, oh god, how
uncomfortable for him? Uncomfortable for us as well? Oh?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Absolutely absolutely, But yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I don't know. It's very interesting how the people have
their relationships and they got a bunch.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Of signing contracts and doing this and.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Then yeah, yeah, they're just fluid with everything and come
into agreement on things. That was very interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I just got to the baby talk in episode five.
I don't know if you remember that. The one guy's like,
do you guys even want babies?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Do you even want it? And then I was like,
let's pause here and go record the podcast.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah it's funny, and then something else happens after that, But.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Don't ruin it. I'm gonna have it off here.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I will not. But yeah, I just I don't know.
The show is just so good and it almost feels
like it can just blast the book away, Like it's
just like I just want to talk about the show
and not the book.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh absolutely, which sucks. Like the book is a good book.
It's not for us, and I can acknowledge that, but like, objectively,
it's well written and I understand why people love it.
I understand why I won all the awards. I understand
like this author knows character voice in a way that

(17:31):
I try to teach all of my clients. Like, there's
so many good things about this book, but as soon
as I watch the TV show, I was like, what book?
I just want TV show exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
And also I also feel like maybe short stories and
novellas aren't my favorite because, like you said, I just
want it more of everything. I want it more detail,
more backstory, more, more and more and more. Yes, And
I usually don't really gravitate to novella's in short stories

(18:03):
because it's just usually not enough for me unless it's
an offshoot of something a world I'm already familiar with.
Then okay, a couple of short stories here and there
to fill in the gaps I'm cool with, but just
like the whole thing. Yeah, oh absolutely, just from that aspect,
because I have read some sci fi books that I

(18:24):
really enjoyed, but they were full length books. So maybe
that is another reason why I think maybe this series
isn't for me in general, just because they're all short novellas.
But I don't know, it might be better going for it,
but it's still gonna be in that short cadence where
we don't get a whole.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Lot of Yeah. So the way it ends the book,
I'm assuming the TV show will end the same way.
But like the way it ends, he's free and he's
going off on his own adventure, and I fully believe that, Yeah,
he's gonna have like so many fun adventures trying to

(19:01):
just sit in the corner and watch his TV shows
or his cereals, but also protecting people to make money
or whatever. Like it's gonna be fun. It just doesn't
feel for me. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I
want more. I want the full story. I want the
human aspect. I want his funny, dry humor, but with

(19:23):
the human drama of it all.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah. Okay, Actually I think now's a great time to
take a quick break. When we come back, I want
to talk a little bit about what I think he
may or may not act like going forward and some
other things. Yes, we'll be right back. Okay, welcome back, guys.
So we mentioned the end I want he mentioned also

(19:47):
kind of like appearing more like an augmented human at
the end, like Graffian. You know, he could get away
with it. Do you think he's gonna like be trying
to blend with humans or do you think he's still
gonna just be his regular ass off just a different
outer layer.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I think he's gonna try to blend a little bit,
just in the sense that, like he I think this character,
this android who hates people, is not gonna suddenly like
go join a crew and try to be one of
the people. He wants to find a way where he
can like sit in the corner and again just watch

(20:26):
his cereals while maybe protecting somebody, but also his TV
shows are his goal.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, it's gonna be if he ends up helping more people,
which I suspect he will be, is gonna be one
of these oh my god, these fucking people, I can't
just leave them. I guess I should help them.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Which definitely happened here.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know. It could be fun, but.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
It'd be fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, I'm curious about that. I wonder how the show
will tackle that, because I do think because obviously the
finale has not aired yet as of today, but now
that I know how it's gonna end, I think they're
going to do something similar. But I kind of hope
that in the show, he goes back to their home
because you know in the book, yeah, he's he's free

(21:17):
to go, but he doesn't have a hospital he can
go to to get fixed. He won't have his little
unit thing to like fix him, as they wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Really have one at their house either or their planet either.
They have like the regular medical stuff, but not the
typical stuff. So I feel like he needs to go
be on a ship that has it.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right because if he goes off on his own, he
didn't go home with them, and he doesn't have all
his equipment that will fix him. He's just going to
be out there trying to what figure out shit, find
another ship that has the government. Yeah, that's weird. I
don't know. I'm kind of curious now, but I still
don't think. I just want to see how the show
tackles it. I think absolutely absolutely that'd be interesting. I

(21:59):
think either it would be interesting, but I would like
to see some of these characters again. Maybe they can
find a balance between him going off and still retaining
some of these characters from season one.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I hope so. Because they're great. They really are. They're
so fun, they're so diverse. The show has everything like
it's one of the most beautifully diverse shows ever. Yeah,
it is just and nobody's even really talking about it.
Like in the show, they're not addressing it. They're not like, well,

(22:32):
we have to talk about how we're from this place
and we're from this place and we're this or that,
where they're just like, this is who we are. This
is just life. Yeah, and I love that. I love
that so much.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
M Yeah, I like that too. I like that it's
extremely diverse in all ways, all all the ways. Yeah,
I like that. But also I think what makes this
different from typical Side five stuff because it has a
lighter tone. It kind of is giving me that star

(23:04):
Trek vibe. And by absolutely and by that, I mean,
you know, there's really it's low stakes. No one's really
gonna die. No one that we care about is gonna die. Yeah,
some other people will who cares about them, But like
if people care about they're fine, it's gonna be kind
of like we'll come together with a happy lesson learned ending,

(23:26):
you know what I mean. Like, so it's really low
emotional investment. It's just fun.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, And when I was listening to it for the
first time, you know, when they start worrying about the
Delta group and they don't know what's going on, and
they're like, let's split up, and some of us go
here and some of us go there. In my mind,
I was screaming, this is just like the Alien movies.
Don't split up, You're all gonna die.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Don't do it.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
But then as it went on and I realized, like, okay, no,
this is definitely just low stakes. I was just applying
my horror homes to it.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, because y'all, we love I love some darkness. I
love for people to be killed for realistic I like
that stuff. So this was a little different. But I
am a trucky, so I mean, I'm okay with that
as well, as long as I know that's what I'm
in for and that's what it is, so I can
kind of set my expectations.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yes, setting expectations is everything.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, And you're right, a lot of people aren't really
talking about this in a way that I thought, because
I know last year, I feel like it was about
a year ago the books that kind of spiked up again,
like people were really taking notice of them on YouTube
and things like that. It didn't make it over to TikTok.

(24:45):
But you know the YouTube where the real quote unquote
readers live, they found it and they were talking about
it last year. So I do think that there's a
audience that is talking about this show, definitely, but it's
just not like that mainstream.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
It's not mainstream, but it should be. It's fusing fantastic.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
But to be fair, like also because it's not Apple TV. Now,
I got to give Apple TV props because they have
a lot of good shows. They have a lot of
good TV and a lot of it some of it
makes the mainstream, but a lot of it doesn't because
I think a lot of people don't want to pay
that Apple TV subscription fee. Yeah, so a lot of

(25:32):
their shows are getting like short the short end of
the stick because the audience isn't coming.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
There and actually sucks.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah. That might also be the problem with for murder Bot,
because everyone loves Alexander.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
He's fine, he's fine, he has Kendalls stuff going on
in this show.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, I'm like, look, I mean, no one wants to
come over and watch him. I don't know, but you know,
you're right, it's not like something I'm hearing people talk
about every day. It's not in my feed. It's not
getting well. It is getting the props in the smaller community.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yes, yes, yeah, but it is absolutely worth it, like
get a seven day free trial with Apple TV and
binge it in a day or two days.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yes, and while you're there, watch as much as you
can of other things, like I recently started watching Shrinking
on there and Kevin that's another one he picked. He's
a comedy watcher and I'm a drama watcher. So when
he finds something that he thinks I'll like, I'll try it.
And this has a perfect amount of drama and comedy,
kind of like Murder Rot but a little bit more

(26:46):
serious themes. But like you know, it's Harrison Ford in there. Old.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yes, we love Harrison Ford. Good.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's so good. So there's so many I could just
sit here and rave about all the Apple TV stuff
I watch, but this Apple TV episode, So I won't
do that, but pick up the child, like Casey said,
and at least give this a watch of nothing else. Yes, No,
it's bengeable, Oh absolutely. With short thirty ish minute episodes,

(27:14):
you won't be wondering like what the fuck's going on?
Like with the.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Audio work, like do I want to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, I mean at times and again, and I think
it's because I was kind of like listening for certain things,
and when it didn't happen, I'm like, how did we
get here? It felt like things were jumpy, it felt
very I don't know, I just was like, what happened?
And I found myself rewinding and spending more time than
I'd prefer just because of how the story was laid out.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
So in my first read through, yes, there are a
few times where like he would just shut down and
like it would stop, like right in the middle of
a sentence or a saint, like just straight stop, and
then it'd be like or a zero percent, and then
he'd wake up and it'd be you know, the next day,
I'm in Medbay or I'm this or that or whatever.
And I thought that was really interesting because it is

(28:10):
one thousand percent telling the story only from his perspective. Yes,
so from a storytelling situation, yeah, that's great. But then again,
in the TV show, when you're used to seeing everybody's perspective,
you're like, oh, what the hell is going on in
the book.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, so I and I hate to say, but I
don't think I gave. I gave the book as fair
of a shake as I could with the circumstances that
was working.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Stances are stacked against the book.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'm not gonna lie like yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
The TV show fleshes everything out. It fleshes out the characters,
it fleshes out the plot. It adds in a few
more things that they kind of did but didn't really
do in the book. And you know, in the book,
he kind of summer this stuff because he's like, I
don't give a shit what they're doing. I really don't care.
I didn't read this file because I don't care. And

(29:06):
then in the TV show he's like, I know exactly
who they are because I read the file because I
care a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm like, not really, machine, it won't take but two
seconds to do it.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
But literally, when you're reading the book, like just from
the start, and he's like, I don't know who you
people are because I didn't read the file because I
just don't give a shit. I laughed at that, like
that I think you would have laughed at if you
had read it first. Yeah, But then in the TV
show he's like, yeah, you're these people from this thing,
and I know all of this, and I'm like, it
doesn't quite hit as hard or like, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah for sure, Oh my gosh, okay, what else anything else?
Did you have a list of anything? Or not? Really? Well?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Okay. So I listened to the audiobook and it was
just Kevin by himself, and I thought he did a
really good shop of it. Typically I don't listen to
audiobook books, and I totally brain fearted and just went
straight for the regular audio, not the graphic audio. So
that was my bad. But he did a good job

(30:11):
with all of the different voices. I thought his dry
humor was really good.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
And I did catch him at the beginning, because, like
I said, I thought the book would start differently, so
I was like, what the fuck? So I went to
the graphic audio and then I went over to the
regular audio. Make sure.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, no, they don't bring that up for a couple
of chapters at least in the book. And then like
he's you know, very blunt, straightforward. Yeah, I was here
and I killed all these people right away. And then
the TV show they're like, let's tease you, let's you know.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So see how he became murder?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, see how he became murderbon even though he says
it right away before he kills anybody.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I'm murdered. Boy, I would not name myself murder.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
But even if I did murder people, Yeah, be like
sweet innocent person who does not murder.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
He really does not intend for anyone to find that
name out.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
So but then they do.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
They do like murder. Yeah, dude, I don't know why
name yourself that, but you know he's good at murdering.
So m hmm, there's that. What I like the other
like things on the what do you call it? The
planet they were on, like the animals and stuff that

(31:39):
was interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Like the the giant.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, like the different you know, of course you're in
a different planet, things are going to be different, but
that was interesting to see them concoct that. And on
the show. Oh no, I don't want to say anything.
I can't figure out where you are, so never mind.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
So they just went to Delta. He got the thing
in his neck and then he realizes it and he's like,
you have to kill me, and they're like, no, we
can't do that. So then he shoots himself in the stomach.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Okay, okay, so I'm yeah, okay, so never mind, somebody
pass there.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
But yeah, I'm excited. Okay, now that makes me even
more excited because I keep worrying, Oh no, they're going
to wrap it up really quickly. Oh no, they're going
to finish this really quickly, because again, the book was
so short, and my brain was convinced, oh, it's going
to be like three episodes, four episodes. Now I'm on
episode five and we're like literally halfway through the book,
and I'm like, Okay, this is good. I'm excited that

(32:37):
they're dragging it out and there's a lot more. But
you saying like there's more stuff coming with the animals
and the plants and stuff. I'm like, ooh, that sounds
good because I kind of wish they did more with
that in the book, like they just had one attack
and that was it.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Mm hmm. Well there's definitely at least one more animal
thing that happens.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, So there's ten episodes the show, so that's a
lot of time.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Is a lot. Again, this book is so short. I
did not think they could do it fill up ten episodes.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah. Actually, when I think about it, I think maybe
I would use like you know how, you're at the
end of the year, your count is down, you're like, fuck,
I need five more things to read. This might be
a good filler for the end of the year if
you're trying to bang out a couple more things just
get your count up.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
But I think this would be good for anybody who's
like a casual fan of sci fi or wants to
try sci fi or like love's really dry humor, you know,
because it's not very dirty, it's not very dark. It's
very fast and clean. I mean, there's some violence to it,

(33:48):
but you know, we read a lot here. Oh but yeah,
I know anybody who like wants to test out sci
fi or see if they like this, or if they need, like,
you know, five books before to reach their reading goal
before the end of the year, absolutely test this out.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, because it will it will be fast, I think. Yeah,
I like it. I like I like the idea of it.
That would be the only reason I'll return to this
is if I need to like hurry up and reach
my number at the end of the year, I'll remember
this and come back to it.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh yeah, But honestly, like, if there's a season two
of the TV show I'm definitely watching that.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm watching it because I want to see what's going
to happen.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Oh absolutely, m m.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay, let's rate the book. Okay, I'll give it a
three out of five.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's fair. I want to give it a four just
because it's so well written. I didn't enjoy it that much,
but like I can appreciate, it does deserve to win
all of the awards, and I understand why everybody loves it.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, it's a ward worthy I think, though, for all
the reasons I already said and again, and it's my fault.
I know. I put the book at a disadvantage because
I didn't read it first. So maybe it would have
scored higher with me had I read it first, but
that's not how this went this time around. So it
is what it is. So let's do our scoring for

(35:20):
the show so far. What's your score for that?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Hive out of five?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Five out of five.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Halfway through episode five, like, I'm literally jonesy to get
back to it. This show is everything I wanted in
the book. It's giving me all of the details. It's
all of the human drama but fun the side or
the cutaways to the to his cereals is everything. I

(35:49):
love it so much. I kind of wish like there
was just the whole episode of just a serial. Don't
spoil it if there is.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
No spoilers.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
But yeah, no, this TV show. I love it. I
will definitely watch it a second time. Like I know,
I'm not even finished with it yet, but this is
something I will rewatch in the future.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Okay, So if I were to nitpike it, I'd probably
give the show a four point five, but since we
don't do halves, it earns a five as well. I
really liked, you know, the internal monologue from Alexander.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
The pacing is really good. They were really smart to
do shorter episodes, yes, because the hour probably would have
been too much. Even if they did like five one
hour ones, it might have been too much. Because it
really allowed the show to be more fast paced, like quick, quick, quick,
quick with the details like you said, so I was

(36:44):
able to expand on those details and plots that the
audiobook or the short story novella couldn't. And of course,
visually it was really appealing. Sanctuary Moon was like really
appealing visually, their habitat those things it was nice to
see on the screen, and as well as like all
the different looking characters, actors and stuff I loved. So

(37:09):
there's really what's not to love love. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Definitely recommend, yes TV show, definitely recommend.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, I love that. So today we had a short
and sweet one for you guys.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
The book was just like the book, short book shook.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
The conversation was sure right to the point. So if
you guys read all systems read, or if you continued
on and read the whole you know, murder Bot Diaries,
let us know what you thought. If you watched the show,
let us know your comparison, but of course, keep its
biler free because we don't want to know what happens next.
We don't want to know, but let us.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Don't tell future books.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, but let us know what you thought of it.
And yeah, that's it. I guess we're done.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I guess we're done.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, we have something different next time or returning to
our regular fantasy roots next time, so that should be good. Actually,
it's funny. We had a book, but it was way
too long, so I said, what the hell is short?
I remember?

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And here we go and here we are.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
All right, So we'll see you guys in the next one.
Until then, take care of yourselves. Bye guys, Bye everybody.
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