#Fantasy Series Duology Conclusion - Rebel Witch | Book Chat - Shelf Addiction Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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And speaking of.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Community, I'm thrilled to welcome back my fantasy series bestie
and co host Casey. I'm heart full of ink. Welcome back, Casey. Hello, Hello,
I'm so excited to be here. I know this should
be a fun convo I think so, I think it's
going to be good. Okay, We're about to find out
and y'all about to find out too.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
So you can find links for both of us in
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all the things. We appreciate you for doing that. Before
we begin, I want to remind you that we discuss
full spoilers here on book Chats, So spoiler alert you've
been borned. Today we are discussing Rebel Witch, written by

(01:34):
Kristin Siccarelli. The audiobook is narrated by Grace Gray, published
February eighteenth, twenty twenty five by Wednesday Books and Listening Library.
The ebook is four hundred and sixty four pages and
the unabridged audio is thirteen hours and forty three minutes.
Casey which you kindly share the synopsis.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Moon Winters is on the run ever since the boy
she loved, Gideon Sharp, revealed who she was and delivered
her into enemy hands. Everyone wants her dead. If Rune
hopes to survive, she must ally herself with the cruel
and dangerous Presida Roseblood, who's planning on taking the Republic
and reinstating a reign of Witches. Something Cressida needs Rune

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to accomplish. Apparently it wasn't enough for Rouone to deceive Gideon.
Now she's betrayed him by joining forces with the witch
who made his life a living hell. Gideon won't allow
the Republic to fall to the witches and be plunged
back into the nightmares of the past. In order to
protect this new world he fought for. Every last witch
must die, especially Rune. Winters when Rune must. When Rune

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makes Gideon an offer he can't refuse, the two must
pair up to accomplish dangerous goals. The more they're forced
into each other's company, the more Gideon realizes the feelings
he had for Roon aren't as dead and buried as
he thought. Now he's faced with a terrible choice. Sacrifice
the girl he loves to stop a monster taking power,
or let Roon live and watch the rold he fought

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so hard for a birth. Okay, done, Dune, as we do.
First up, high level, what did you think about the book?
So I mentioned this last time?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
This is one of the best actual enemies to lovers
that I've read in a long time. Mm hmm. And
while I have other things to complain about high level.
I'm so fucking happy that they were actually enemies and
kept trying to kill each other and to see each
other and like that. I love that. It's so rare

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in today's age, even though everything is enemies to lovers, Like,
it's so rare that we actually have enemies who are
like pressing guns and knives to each other and like
actively trying to kill each other. But we had that here,
and that made me so happy. You know what, I
just thought something really inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Again, I'd be thinking about all kinds of stuff, but
I'm like, that could have been a really fun scene,
like they trying to kill each other and do each
other at the same time, because you know, that's how
they'd be trying to do any other book. Yeah, yeah,
they absolutely could have and should have done that.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
At some point. But like this was a very very
mild sexual book. Yeah that's very mild, but like, yes,
anybody who wants to write real enemiest to lovers do that.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, I would agree. I do think it was done well,
and I'm glad that it was. I guess the change
or the transformation was well timed. I think it didn't
take the whole book, which was also nice. Yeah, just
like all of a sudden, it just clicked and he
was like, oh, I guess I don't hate her. I'm

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gonna help have to save her. Okay, but I think
I enjoyed this one a little bit better than the
first book. It was definitely easy for me. It wasn't slow.
I got through it pretty quickly, and the pages kept turning,
you know, the audio way kept going, and I.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Was never bored. That's fantastic. Yeah, so I phrase coming
from you, Yeah it is. I actually. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
So I enjoyed it a lot more than the first installment,
which is great because usually people can't, you know, seal
the deal. But if I had to critique one thing,
it's going to be my ultimate, biggest gripe that I
always have, and it's fucking children and marriage.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, so just to kind kind of skip it. And
I knew, okay, so I.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Knew when I knew when Rune had the vision, I said,
oh fuck, thank you had to goodness, we didn't actually
get that in the epilogue.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like, yes, it didn't go that far. I didn't go
that far. Yeah, I know. If it had, I would
have been I would have started ranting about that immediately, right,
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's there, And for people who love that kind of ending,
it's given to you and you can daydream about it
if you want, because you know it's going to happen
for them eventually.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm like, oh god, not three kids. Not the three kids.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And then it came up again. I guess you know,
she had to. I guess complete the circle with that.
When Rune's like on the train and looking at her
face and she's like, I don't know where who looks
like me?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
And she's like, oh see those eyes before scenes, Oh my.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
God, she gets off and save her man because you know,
she's trying to figure out who she is.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'm like, get out of here, okay girl, Yeah I
could have done without that. Yeah I could have. It
could have been anybody, but those kids or in that
moment like what why why? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
So that was I think my biggest you know, I
tolerate it, but you know, I don't love it. But
you know, I get a lot of people enjoy that.
So the author tries to service you know, those readers.
Yeah it worked, you know, it didn't not fit, but
you know it could have not been there out have

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been just fine, absolutely, And I.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Mean it could have been cut and would have changed
nothing in the plot line. Like as soon as she
started when she had that vision, I was like, Oh,
is this going to become something like is she now
going to start having visions?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
This is going to be part of the plot line.
But no, it was literally just for the kids. Yeah,
which is weird. That could have been so holy she
could see more like if all of a sudden she
started seeing into the future and the past and seeing
all of these different things, that would have been such
a really cool addition to the plot. And it was

(07:36):
just for the kids. Yeah, I agree, it could have
been differently so much better.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Gripe. That was an ugh.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Why so I do have some time on the Gripe train.
I do have one more And I guess I love
when people can't surprise me. It's very hard to surprise
me more same, you know, because we both read a
lot of this genre and a lot of these type
of things, so the plots are pretty similar, you know. Yeah,

(08:09):
it goes the same way. So I was kind of disappointed.
I knew really early on that Rune was the sister. Well,
I knew instantly, Yeah, I'm like this instantly obviously before
the author told us.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I'm like duh.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
It was so painfully obvious. So even in book one,
Rune was like, my parents just died in an accident,
and I'm not even related to my grandmother, so I
don't know if I have magic. And then of course
she starts getting magic and all of this, that and
the other, and she's like, but I don't know who

(08:46):
am I And then they're like, oh, there's a missing sister,
and I was like, oh, duh, fuck me, Like this
is the most obvious, so obvious, like obvious, yes, no
one even has to use their energy to even think. No,
it's just duh. It's the biggest duh.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah. And I think that's my biggest disappointment with this book.
I don't know if it's just me or if this
author is still really new, but everything was so obvious,
from Rune being the sister to what's her name? The
plot was at the end where she was Serafina. Yeah, yeah,

(09:31):
she was wisdom.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
So even at the end of the last book, again
they're like, Sara Fina looks like she's twenty, so she's
basically Room's age, but she was best friends with her
grandmother for years before Rune was ever born. So I
was like, okay, is she some type of immortal? Something
like why does she look twenty?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Right? And then this whole.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Time they're like, oh, maybe there's an immortal around us.
I'm like the twenty year old who's supposed to be
fifty or seventy or however fucking old. And then okay,
so to be. And that's another thing that I kind
of hate. So we knew, like you said, we could
tell that someone was up with her obviously, Yeah, but
then to be powerful ancient god is like all these things,

(10:18):
and if you're supposed to be a guide or protector
for Rune, you kind of failed.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
There's a lot of shit she didn't know.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Like when she learns the history, she's like, I didn't
know that shit, why aren't you telling her the history?
And then it's like, oh, you know, I've been waiting
for this forever, bitch. You could have did something like
you're so powerful you could you just literally had to
sit there and do nothing. Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
And even then I need to go back and open

(10:48):
up the first book. But I'm like ninety percent sure
it was Sarah Fina she was looking for in chapter
one book what. Yeah, and that was like two or
three years after her grand had been murdered.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
So what was she doing for those three years? Were
not helping Rune?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Right? And then how in the hell what would have
happened if they had actually got up there?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
You know, they were interrupted before Roune could kill her
in book one?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, but what would have happened? You just gonna sit
there and let her do it? Like, I don't understand
it was It was flat.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
It was so flat. It did not deliver what the author. No, no, yeah,
it was so close, but like not not a surprise,
Like I can see this from a mile away. You're
not You're not hiding it as well as you should be.

(11:40):
You're not giving us more to the plot. There's so
much lacking there. I don't know what else this is
like it like you said, it was good enough to
keep me engaged and reading, But at the same time,
I'm just like, there's so much more that could have
been done. There's so much else.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I mean, if you're gonna plot, if you're gonna PLoP
an obvious plot twist in front of us make her
more useful.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I feel like she could have been a lot more.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Helpful to Ruin, and maybe she could have been operating
out of a different space, you know, instead of being
so young about everything.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Still yeah, yeah, I don't know. She could have done
everything differently and it would have been still would have
been a better plot twist. Yeah, so that was so her.
Both of her plot twists fell flat.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, that's unfortunate, but she tried, but it did not
really pan out. Also, I think that again I have
the same gripe as I had in the first book.
I've wanted more of Roune acting like the Crimson Moth.
I wanted more of her being kicks and all this
other stuff, and it wasn't enough in this one.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
She just struggled with her identity more than actually kicking
ass anywhere.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Hmm. The whole time she's struggling with her identity, and
she's struggling.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
With being in love with Gideon.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Like that's so there in the front of every scene,
every scene there in together. Why did they have to
bother for him? Why I would have rather he asked
me to marry him. I'm like girl, Okay, okay, But
that's so why A to me is so you you
know young, it was.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
And she she was very much acting like a teenager
in this book.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, so I did not like that. I wanted her
to seem older, act older me, be more kick ass.
I think the best scene where she was acting kick
ass was when that one guy who was the assassin
tried to get her and she was like, now I'm gonna,
you know, beat him down or whatever. And then oh

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wait the other time too, where what's his face tried
to come for her, the prince.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
The prison Yeah, and she just shot him. Yeah, she like, bam,
I do what you taught me to do. I just
took him out. And even think about it. So she's
able to defend herself.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And I like those situations where she's able to you know,
get through them on her own.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
But yeah, I don't know, it's just something more. I
just need it more. Yeah. Same because like in the
early parts of book one, we were told that the
Crimson Moth was the most incredible, dangerous witch of all.
You know, we did have that really one, really good
scene in book one with the two of them fighting

(14:37):
in the sewers, and you and I both said, like
we needed more of that because like one was good,
but we wanted more scenes of room doing that. And
she really didn't get that opportunity here to do any
sort of scene like that. She wasn't you know, she
was saving the one, which but that was easy. When
they saved the baby, that was just like run in

(14:59):
and shoe. That wasn't the crimson moths actually like subverting them,
and you know, it was just it was weird.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
The author chose to highlight every time Rune had to,
like I guess, use some kind of persuasion. It was
always all like flirting, this heavy flirting. Yes, always every time,
every time, And I get that, like, yes, that isn't
her repertoire.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
That is what she was good at when she was
playing herself, is Rune and the normal girl, not the witch,
not the Crimson Moths, And like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's necessary sometimes, but I also want to see her
walking through the mud and you know, getting into locked rooms.
And I mean she did it when she saved Harrow,
but that was such a minute moment that she didn't
even want to do it. No, she was doing it
as a favor, yeah, only because what's her face? Based

(16:00):
begged her to yeah, exactly, And she even said that
at one point, she's like, the only reason I did
it was because she begged me.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Otherwise I would have left you.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, when they all came together at the at the
little hotel or whatever, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
She's like, don't be so mean to her. You're the
she's the reason you're here.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
What. Yeah, So again, you know, I guess, as always,
two things can be true. Wow, it was entertaining enough,
and like I said, I had a good enough time
with it. There are some really big flaws, Yes, where
the author could have impressed me more.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I feel like this comes back to like just general
writing style. She writes well enough that you are captivated
in the moment and it's really good and you can
enjoy it. But we've had this with other authors in
the past, and once you start picking it apart, you're like, oh,
when I pulled this thread, the whole thing kind of unravels. Yeah,

(17:02):
which it's never good. They need it's never good. But
it does show you that, like talent does cover a
lot of issues.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, absolutely, And so that does also make me wonder
who is this book for? Exactly is this book? Because
so it's why A right, it's tagged Ya, isn't it?
I thought it was tagged adult's. Probably it is more
Hya maybe new adult? Is that still a thing?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Like twenty year olds? Eighteen to twenty four? I think
is the best age range.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
For this, okay, because I seem when it first came up,
I said, oh, another romanticy, right, And I think I
have expectations of a romanticy that are a little different
from this. And it does feel very Hya to me,

(17:59):
and I'm not sure. So again, two things are true.
I enjoyed it well enough, but I don't think I'm
the audience for this book, especially with my reading habits
of late, So.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, there is very childlike.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
So I'd like to know from you guys, if you're listening,
what did you think of the reading level for this book?
Did you think it was adult? Let us know chime
in on this part. Do you think it was why A?
Did it feel old enough for you? You know, if
you're listening, I'm sure you've read it. Most people who
listen to the podcast have read it, So yeah, I
want to know, all right, what else do you have?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Any other? So many this is a rhetorical question. I
don't expect anybody to give me an answer. But why
the fuck is this world also homophobic?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Good question? I thought that, I said, good. I thought
that with the two men, like, why does this world
have to be homophobic?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Like we already hate witches, we hate humans, we're already
fighting amongst each other. Why is it also homophobic? Yeah,
Like that was not necessary. It was not necessary, not
even a little bit. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
There was no because it's not like this world was
ultra religious or anything.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't know. That doesn't really there's no reason.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
See, and like they could have made it a class thing,
right because he was a chef.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
The one guy was a chef and the one guy
was rich. But it was like, but we're two men
in love and we don't belong to the same class.
But it was like, the world is homophobic more than
it hates the class difference, and I was like, why,
why why are we doing this? And then with Harroo
and her witch, it was it could have been another

(19:49):
enemies to lovers witch versus witch hunter kind of thing,
but no, I think that was also homophobic more than anything. Yeah,
And I'm just like, why does this world have to
be homophobic?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
It doesn't have to be because there was more than
enough hate between everybody for everything.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah it was. Yeah, it was enough hate there.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
We didn't need the extra layer, yeah at all, exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
We didn't need that extra homophobia.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, hmm, yeah, I want to know that's yeah, it
is rhetorical, but I want to know now, like why
throw that in there?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Just one more thing? But it wasn't really important, So
I think she wanted to have a fun plot twist
to show Rune that everybody had hidden depths and everybody
had secrets, because this was one of the guys she
was flirting with and had on her roster for potential
husbands back in book one.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
But he was an idiot, And even here she was like,
he fooled me into thinking he was an.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Idiot, And I thought I could read everybody so well,
and she's learning one she say, is that a front?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Like she questioned it in book one? Didn't she Maybe
it's been a while since I've read that. I felt
like she did, like she say, is this is he
for real?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Or is it? Maybe she did?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I think she did say that, ye yeah, But here
in book two she was like, Wow, he fooled me
and I think the author was just trying to really
highlight to ruine that like everybody has depth, everybody has
hidden stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
But like, why why the homophobia? Why not just make
him in love with his cook like that make it
a class thing.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, I agree with you. That would have been enough. Yeah,
it doesn't have to be homophobic too.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Now I did not. Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't even
think of that. But it's right.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's like why what is the point? And when that
scene came up, I didn't feel anything about it.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I was like, okay, yeah, hmmm, yeah, like it literally
did not need to be homophobic.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
No, And why are all the men like with the
exception of Gideon obviously, but he kind of was like
a f boy in the first book a little bit
seemed like he was trying to come off that way.
But it seems like all the men, they all they
want to do is like sleep with Roone, Like what
is that?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, all of a sudden, he is the f boy
who has all of these women like falling all over
themselves for him. Wow, because he has well he has
his terrible past with the witch queen. Yeah, and he.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Had moves it Anya on the boat, who was in
love with him and kissing him and like why'd you
marry her?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
You could have married me. I'll marry you now, like
the fuck? Yeah, but yeah, to your point, yes, it
seemed like every man just wanted to sleep with Rune
and then every girl wanted to sleep with Gideon like exactly,
like why are they just giving off sex pheromones? I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's very weird, and that whole thing between them, I'm like,
why is he doing that? And I mean I knew
he was doing that to see if you know that
scar would yeah, spell would kick up again. But yeah,
that whole thing with I think it's her name, well,
I can't think of her name right now. I start
with a I think, but I think it was Anya
or Amy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Something like that.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
But because she was so unimportant, it wasn't even funny.
But like on that boat, it kept ruone like being
eternally jealous, Like she was jealous that whole time, like
how dare he look at her? Talk to her in
a corner, do anything with her? Like she was very

(23:46):
put out and when she saw him, she was like
getting in is that you?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
And Rune instantly was like saw red. Yeah, She's like
this bitch. This bitch knows my man's name, right, is she?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Like?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
They seem too comfortable?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
But yeah, more stuff that, you know, I guess for
the drama of it, that was the purpose.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
But but I would have rather had different drama where
they're running or fighting or doing something.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
H Yeah, that was kind of interesting, very yay.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well a yeah. Also, it has been probably like at
least fifteen years since I've watched Titanic, But did you
get Titanic vibes? Reading shipsy And I'm like, oh, they're
in third class.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
With like the folks down in there. Did you get
Titanic vibes? I'm like, oh, man, wow, okay, thank you,
because I.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Was reading this was like it's been so long since
I've seen the movie. Maybe I'm making this up, but
I was getting Titanic vibes.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
No, No, it's very much giving Rose going into the
wrong part of the ship with her fancy dress, you know,
as room goes to dinner and.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
She's like, oh, I'm over dressed. Like okay, catch a clue, Rune.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Your your room is like four feet wide, yeah, four
feet by ten or some crazy shit, like you can
barely eat both of you fit in the bed. Yeah,
why do you think you need a fancy dress to
go to dinner? This is all she packed anyway.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, but yeah, be aware at least be aware. Okay,
I know.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Oops, I didn't realize this is what the first third
class is. I know I'm going to stick out. Yeah,
be aware, come on, girl, aware, be aware. And again, like,
this could have played into the class consciousness. This could
have really highlighted how the different the elites versus the poores. Like,
we could have played so much into this instead of

(25:49):
the homophobia.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
M h, we could have played with that. Yeah, but no,
it's just a lot of homophobic. Yeah. A lot of
it was the class warst, you know, the haves and
the have nots.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, and that was just there's so much more that
could have been done with that.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Okay, I think this is a great time to take
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Speaker 2 (26:39):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I don't know Anya Amy Abby? It was Abby Abby
that I'm like, I knew it was an A name.
It I was like, I know, it's an a name,
but she's so unimportant. Well there was a there were
several A names in this book, so yeah, yeah, eh, okay, Abby, thanks,
but carry on. Not that a right, Let's see what

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else was going on. Oh you know, did you what
did you think about? I think it.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Was her name was Aurelia? Was that her name? The
girl with the woman with the daughter? Yes? Yeah, yes,
What did you think of that part of the book? Well,
first off, I understand why she was giving up the
other witches to save her daughter. The rescuing of her
daughter felt so chaotic and dumb. I was like, Okay,

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the crimson Moth and the leader of the whole Redguard
cannot come up with a better plan than this bullshit
of just walking in and oh no, my ankle, Nola's
run upstairs like excuse me.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, it was very chaotic, and the woman who's watching
the kid just.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Start screaming Baddy.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Mr. Basically can't bunk.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Her on the head or a spell on her to
mute her or something.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
That would have been too logical. Instead, let's just have
this chaos going on.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, No, that that was dumb. When the woman, you know,
they finally rescued her, Rune gets her on the boat
they get away. When she's like, all right, Rune, you
swim back to your island or the continent or whatever,
like I'm out. I was like, good for you. That's
whatever you witch should be doing right now, Like why

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is any witch still on their island if they're being
captured and murdered. Why And she just escapes she doesn't
won't be caught against exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
No.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I gave her kudos because like, yeah, get the fuck out.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, And I guess this is another great example of
Rune being so naive about stuff. Yeah, i'd have been like, nah,
you gonna come with me or I'm gonna I don't know.
I would have done something so if I needed to
get away and I needed that boat, she wouldn't be
able to just take off.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, which was like three feet away, Like she just
jumped in the water.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
It's like I'll be right back, and the woman's like, yeah, no,
see it, I'm leaving sea. But that was the second
time she got the one up on Rune, Like when
she comes into the apartment, Rune goes and again.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
It's so obvious. She's like, did not load a second gun.
I'm like, oh, okay, you just gonna say that, and
not like, uh huh, look for the gun. Uh huh,
she's got the gun. Dug got it. Like, oh my god, Rune, sweetheart,
I thought you were smarter than this. No she is not.
She's not the smartest, you know to a little talks

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not at all.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
So again, those kind of things just bring it right
back to why a.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I'm like, hey, you're supposed to be a crimson moth.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
You sneak around in free witches, you know spells, you
know how to fight, you know how to protect yourself.
I don't understand how you don't know how to use
a gun, but okay, I'll let it go. But then
when you finally figure out, figured out and have guns,
you're not even gonna keep track of your weapons.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
It's so wrong. Mmm mmm, I don't know. Can we
just say, Like in book one, it was such a
huge point that she only used her period blood, like
she had no scars, she had her little vials of
blood and she was able to safely, like do magic,

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but it didn't leave the little moth behind? Did it?
I did it? I'm trying to. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I think it might have okay, but she was only
doing it, you know, in places that you know people
could not see her, So she's being very careful about
her magic.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Then she's a lot more to see her. When she
was just cutting everything, I was like, was your period
blood like leaving the moths? Because I know she did
leave the moths before in some instances, but it just
felt like, I don't know, it felt weird how all
of a sudden she was just like cut cut cut

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cut cut. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think she just in those couple of months that
she was with Seraphine or whatever, she's just like, fuck it,
I don't have to wait for period blood, I'll just
do it whatever. So obvious this.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm over it.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
And I think, yeah, the moths were there because I
feel like in the first book, Gideon was like able
to track her based on the molls that he was finding.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I guess that would have been nice to know the
other witches hat leaf signatures around like that, like visible signatures,
not that I remember.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Hmm. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I know they kind of like the author kind of
called out like a smell of magic from like Crescida
versus runs. But I don't remember anybody else having a
visible signature that could be seen, which was kind of odd. Yeah,
what's so special about her that she has a visual signature?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Well, she's the long lost sister and but that doesn't
see wisdom? Like how does it?

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I mean, but like is your I don't know, you know,
I'm trying to say, like, yeah, technically makes that happen?
It was more world building that's kind of missing. Yeah, yeah,
it was just it just is what it is. Just
is what it is. The more I talk about it,
see this something that I started out so positive, it's

(32:25):
turned into a rant review? How does that happen? Only
i'll shook for a diction? Does it turn into a rant?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
That's a good book? Yeah, like we say two things
can be true? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, yes. I will say
I was a little surprised that they actually killed her
in the end, A little surprised about that, but I'm
glad they did. I am too. Yeah, it made me
happy that he actually shot her. It was Gideon the

(32:53):
enemy who shot her in the end. Yeah, she told
him to when he instantly was like, what did I did?
It's like, but the minute that.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
She was shot, I said, obviously, because she had the vision,
she's gonna be brought back. And it was very obvious
and useful. You know, now you have her dead and
her sister alive in front.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Of you, you can just do the thing. She can
bring her back the way they were just going to
do with the other two sisters. Yeah, so easy, so smart,
right in front of you. Yeah, not a plot twist,
but just yeah, I thought that was unique. And Crescida
deserve to die.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I'm glad she died instead of like being locked away
somewhere because she's horrible, Like why Okay, So I know
that the point is to make a very scary villain mhm,
but Cressida had no boundaries at all. So she sexually
abused Gideon. That was very creepy. Yep, very bad, and

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then she whips run into like she a second from death.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Basically yep, why is she so vicious? Like what?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
They really didn't explain any of that, right, So, like
all three sisters were evil. I guess their mom was
kind of evil too, and that's why Sarah Fina was like,
I just knew I had to take you out of
this house. You couldn't be raised with them.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
But why why were they all evil? Yeah? And violent?
Like why was she so violent?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Like I understand having I don't know. I guess they
were just evil for the sake of being evil.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, they were just evil for the sake of being evil,
was really what it came across as.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, and then it just be so like that is
so gross, Like the way she totally just like put
a spell on Gideon so he could never like touch
his true love without having like severe pain. Like that
is also giving a little Disney or something. I don't know,

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you know that part of it, Yes, But then it
was very opposite of Disney, how that spell had to
be broken. I'm like, whoa girl, can't you just, I
don't know, kiss his eyelids twice on one side say
you gotta go get yourself like almost dead yep, yeah,

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some huge sacrifice. So it's like very Disney and then no,
very very not. But it just proves how much she
loves her. Well, let me just go and expose myself
and see what happens. This is gonna be my sacrifice.
What if it didn't work? She would did all that
for nothing spilled her blood.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
But the other thing is, I don't get why all
of the witches didn't turn on her, Like, yes, they
did technically need they didn't need Carissa to get rid
of the Red Guard, right like they needed her brutality
to get rid of the evil humans. But then she

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started turning on the witches too, any of which she
didn't like. She would just immediately kill if a large
enough group of witches turned on her, which you know
they all could have, they could have gotten rid of
her immediately. Instead they just sat back and they're like, well,
we're just gonna step wine and watch the humans die,

(36:26):
because because why why is everybody so fucking vicious? And
then in just the last chapter they're like, yeah, okay,
well I'll be human and normal and everything's good and
happy and dandy, and now we have this democracy and
parliament or what the fuck ever they called it, like
it was just so that's the ya fantasy part of it,

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where they're just like, yeah, everybody gets along, now we're good, happy,
And she got elected apparently in a couple months as well,
ruined it I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know either.
I felt kind of med about the end of that. Yeah,
that was I really liked the ending when he killed

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her and then they brought her back to life and
everything was good and kids just ended right there, And
I would have been okay with that. I know you
needed to wrap it up, but like I should have
dealt without or Yeah, I would have.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Been okay with Ruin being like the new witch queen
and then Gideon being like in charge of his segment.
Of course, them coming together as an alliance, they're all
working together.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
That would have been nice.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
But to just go into a democratic society like that,
that just seems so and they're like, what if it
doesn't work, what will try something else? Like what, you
can't just trying like that, somebody's gonna throw a coup,
somebody's gonna take it out Like that felt very rushed
and not well thought out.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I think, yeah, yeah, I didn't love that part. Yeah no.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
And she's trying to run away at the end, like
come on, let's go have sex in the lake instead
of going to this party.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
He's like, no, we going to this party.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
There are a hundred people downstairs, waiting on you, and
of course they got married. I was happy that the
wedding was off page. Thank you, same, appreciate it, same. Yes,
I didn't need to see that, and.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
She saved us from it. So there's that. But that's
a good point in her favor. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
But the end, Yeah, I didn't love the end that much.
It was kind of just okay, with exception of them
killing her and bringing her back.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
That was the best. That was a really good ending.
And then the epilogue was just mad mad Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, well shit, okay, okay, what else I know there's
probably a couple more things.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
There was Alex dead brother. Yeah, So I have to say,
as much as I hated him being killed off in
the first book, that is one of my giant pet peeves,
and I hated it so much, I am glad he

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was gone in this book because he would have just
slowed the pacing down. He would have made everything so
boring and so much worse. So I'm glad he was dead,
even though I hate to say that, like I hate
that he died, but I.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Agree, and I think the author tried to throw like
a little bit of a who do I want to
say the author I guess tried to redeem Alex in
this book because when run asked, you know, Gideon to
just take off and leave everything, and he didn't, you know,
I guess she kind of could see where Alex was

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coming from and wanting to protect her, you know, she
was able to kind of see it from his eye
versus yes, the other. So I think the author was
trying to redeem Alex a little bit for being like
he was in the first.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Book, which is good and fair, and like I understand,
he loved Rone in such a way where he wanted
to protect her and that was not the romantic love
she needed. That was the brotherly love she needed, and
he was good for her for so long. But also like, no,
if he'd been alive, it would have been just stupid,

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drama and terrible.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
And it would have been the two of them dragging
his ass around because he just didn't want to even
be there. So he'd been trying to get room to
run away the entire book. Yeah, and that, and then
when she was ready to run away, he would have
been like, great, let's go and never come back. And yeah,
so I hate to say it, but it was good

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that he was dead. But also, that is still my
biggest fucking pet peeve.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I think it was good he was dead, But make
a choice. Don't be such a.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
You know, I actually actively choose one brother. And I
guess she kind of did when she took off his
ring like it was it was a thing. But like,
he's dead, so are you really making the choice for
with a choice? She did not make a choice.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
She made a choice to not piss off her maybe
future husband by wearing that ring anymore, because she's who
he likes.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
She know, she's is who she likes.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Let me say that, right, And so the other guy,
Alex is gone, So what's the point of wearing that
ring anymore. It's kind of like, I know you were
doing it to kind of in honor of but it's
it's past that. Yeah, especially when you're the guy who
you want to be with.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Is like, why do you.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Wear his ring?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
You loved him?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
She like, whoa, whoa, let's not get a twisted I
was not in love with him.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Let me take up this ring right now. Let's clear
this up. Here's the ring. I don't need it.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
So that was a quick discard in my opinion, But
I feel like it did give them a good conversation
because she and Gideon needed to have a couple of
really good conversations in the beginning, which they did have.
But still, Yeah, there was one other set of characters
that I didn't even realize they were siblings until I

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realized they were siblings. So Noah, who was the commander
and took over Brune's house.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, and what's the girl's name? Layla? Layla? Their siblings.
And I'm like, how did I miss that?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I feel like, was that pointed out and it was
obvious and I just forgot it?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I think so because I remember it in book one. Okay, yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
I'm like, he's so so because Layla kind of let
Gideon escape quote unquote and throws her in a basement
and says, you can die here, or you can try
to get out and run into other soldiers that will
probably use and abuse you. Yep, good luck. What a
wonderful brother. Yeah, Like that's wild to me.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
And that was one of the men that Rune was
flirting with and thinking about marrying, and there was Yeah,
it was very strange. I didn't really love that. I
don't know. It was surprisingly a lot of like sexual
assault happening to everybody. Two men to get into Rune

(43:43):
when her ex fiance was attacking her and then Layla
getting trapped and her brother was like, yeah, they'll probably
rape you. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
And like on the ship where that assassin almost came
for her, Yeah, that guy too, I forgot about him. Yeah,
he almost tried to getting it showed up. Yeah, in
the Nick of Him. There was a lot of implied
and actual like assaults in the book, Like, I don't
know what's the point of that.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Like I appreciated it in book one with the fact
that like it happened to a man and like he
was dealing with the fallout of that trauma.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
But then again in this book he's like, yeah, I know,
I've had so many lovers since then, it's fine, even
though it's all been a few years.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Captured his ass and when Brune was trying to risk
rescue him at the last minute, you know, she points
out that his pants were open.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, I'm like, oh, go have fun with him and gain. Yeah. No,
there was a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. I'm like,
what the hell is going on this?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, it was very like that's the thing she chose
to be really I don't know, volatile with like why
do you choose that?

Speaker 2 (45:01):
I don't know. I could have done without it.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, the cruelty and then the violence of it all,
and meant just to be trying to sexually assault people
like on a regular basis, Like, what is going on here?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
It's very strange. It was. But to circle back to
Layla and Noah, the other thing I wanted to bring
up was just like how could they be so different?
They were siblings, they were raised by the same man.
That man loved Gideon and was basically like a second
father to him, and which means like Noah should have

(45:35):
been like a brother to him. Laylah saw him as
a brother, and yet Noah was like, I'm gonna kill you. Yeah,
I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. Like why,
but why again, evil for the sake of being evil? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Because why what's his reason? What did you do to
him that he's like this? Or who did something to
him that he's like this?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Now? Exactly?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
He was just evil for the sake of it, And
it was annoying and dumb. Yeah, And I think too
many characters that are like that. It's just an easy
plot device, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Like, yeah, yeah, it really is.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, Like, give me some background, Like I don't have
to feel like bad for them for them to you know,
I don't know like I need it that exactly, but
I do need some reason. I need to know why
they are the way they are. Yeah. I don't need
a sob story exactly. Just tell me how we got here.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah. Yeah, And if he's a sociopath, like, give me
that explanation. Don't just be like, yeah, no, he's just
evil for the sake of being evil, because I need
somebody to be evil here. Mmmm.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Well we got several of those characters evil for the
sake of being evil, A lot of those characters.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, that's annoying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So one thing that Rune did that I think was
kind of interesting and also again showing her stupidity. So
when she places that, she does the spell to bring
the air to her. Remember she places the spell at
night there in the woods there's this dias or whatever,
and you know, she wakes up there like how did

(47:10):
I get over here?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
And of course Gideon comes and he's like, oh my gosh,
she's the lost sister.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, he got it immediately when she like sleepwalked herself
over there and got on the thing, but when she
woke up there, she could not figure out that the
spell drew her there.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, Like they're like, dad, do the spell wrong? I'm like, yeah,
I mean, to be fair, I would not want to
know or admit that I was related to Crestida. I
get it, But I guess it's Saraphina had to tell her.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I get But that's such a yeah, so dumb. Yeah,
Like it was so obvious even before this moment to
the reader. It should have been so obvious to the reader. Yeah,
I agree, and it was, and yet it took so
fucking long for her to figure it out herself. Yeah,

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I don't know. That seemed crazy to me, but I guess.
I just remember thinking during this scene, I'm like, what
does wrong with her?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Why she's so slow? Like, like, how could you not
figure this out?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Girl? And then the witch that was with her, you
know whatever, her name was, the Ariela or whatever. Yeah, Yeah,
I'm like, why didn't you just talk some sense to
her on the spot?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
So she's a seer who can see the past president
in the future. Yeah, supposedly there's such a powerful block
on the air that she can't see the air, but
she's like, yes, I'm gonna do the spell with you.
She literally wakes up where the air is supposed to be,
and this girl is like, yeah, no, let's get out

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of here.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Apparently she didn't show up, so let's just go. It
must have didn't work, right, who's gonna think? Wait? Why
are you laying in this exact spot? Did you look?
If I were hurt?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Arali, I'll feel like, do you remember walking over here?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah? Do you remember? Did you do this intentionally? Right?
Why did you come out here? And it was raining? Right?

Speaker 1 (49:21):
What drew you here? So obviously the spell drew you?
Like that's so obvious. See I hate that kind of stuff,
Like why you got these main character acting so stupid?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah? No, it was She's a last to find out, seriously,
the last. Yeah, so dumb. God gosh, okay, let me think.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
We need to add on a good note. We need
to say something we like about this book. I stand
by what I said earlier. I don't have anything new
to add as far as likes. But it was entertaining,
even with all the silly stuff and things that did
make sense and things that you know, I we're done different.
It was still a quick, easy read, you know, which

(50:06):
was something I think I kind of need it right now.
I didn't really need something that was too complex, So
that's what I got. It's a very simple story. Yeah,
so if you're in the mood for that, that's great. Yeah,
little lighthearted, barely love story there.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
It's like there, but you don't get a whole out
of it. I would say that's the opposite. I'd say
it's more of a love story than like an action story. Yeah.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I just feel like it was so high school like,
and I guess that's yes, it's in my opinion, that's
not Again I always say this, but I mean it wholeheartedly.
I need to be able to be pulled in and
I want to buy it.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I need to feel like the longing for them and yearning, yeah,
the yearning.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
I need to leave this, and I feel like I
didn't quite get there. So to me, while I liked it,
they ended up together, it was kind of like that
to me, hate you know, this is what you should
think because obviously it's in their future.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Which didn't really do a trick to me. So for me, it.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Wasn't that romantic or that much. You know, I don't know,
maybe I'm not saying it right, but that's how I felt.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I get that watching the kids was just annoying, Like
that really should have been cut out of this book.
Not because we just hate kids, but because like it
did give that like, yeah, you're already, you're sett in stone,
you'll be together in the future. No, give me the
yearning and the passion right now. Give me.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
The thing I liked about his curse, his chest curse
was that like it was only true love that really
hurt him. And yes, that was very Disney of it,
but it was one of those things I was like, Okay,
so he truly loves her, right, Like it's not just
lust on his part.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
He he's down bad.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah for this girl. Took long enough though, Yeah, but
he got there. He got there, He got there. I
don't know, but they're not one of the top couples
I would ever think about. Like when I think about
romanticy books, who you just want the couple. They're so cute,
they're so this this couple.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Ay making the list. I mean, we have read so
many books, yeah, so many series and like Patricia Ricks,
Adam and Mercy. They're gonna be number one couple forever
for us, Yes, Like we.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Have almost two decades loving them.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I don't think we're ever going to find a duology
or trilogy that will surpass. I don't know. I can't
even lie. Like Adam and Mercy.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
I connected with them as a couple pretty much immediately.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Absolutely. I was like, Oh, there's no one else that's
got a chance. It's them. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
It didn't take three four five books book one, it
wasn't one, it was out yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, So why can't I get that again? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Yeah, Like I want to feel immediately it's them. They're
in game. I don't care what the fuck happens in
these books. It's them, you know, Like, give me this,
I know.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I want that feeling too, Yes, yeah, Like is that
so hard? Am I asking for a miracle here?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I'm like yeah, maybe no, Maybe I don't know, because
a lot of authors don't do it, they can't do it,
or maybe I'm just my you know, I got a
little ice water in my veins, so it takes a lot,
or it takes a special recipe for me to feel it.
But that's fine, that's yeah, Yeah, no, And also it
takes really good writing and really good storytelling and really

(53:56):
good character development and really really good yeah yearning, there's
a lot of yearning.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, give me that, and banter. Yearning and banter, I think, yeah,
I don't know. Their banter was Okay, it was good enough.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, not the best, but good enough. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
I'd say that. Okay, I guess that's as goods we're
gonna get. Let's go ahead and rate Rebel, which you
go first.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I'm stuck.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Okay, I want to rate it a three point five. No,
you won't let me do app stars, no, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
So I'm stuck. Part of me like, yeah, we ripped
it to shreds, so it should be a three star.
But part of me still I love the fact that
they were true enemies, and it is so goddamn rare
that I ever actually get true enemies to lovers. But

(54:57):
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
That was the prop that you that's the most in
the first book. Yes, and it's still propping her up.
But I'm so torn because, like, you.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Don't understand, I'm so used to enemies being like I
hate you.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
And then poking each other with a spoon and then
they're like making.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Out and happy. After two chapters, I'm like, you're not
enemies at least here in book two they're still holding
knives and guns to each other. Yeah, that's true, they're
real enemies.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
So I want to do it a four for that,
but based on the plot, I think I have to
go down to a three star. But like, it is
firmly three point by my heart, just in my heart
of hearts at three point five, but I will go
down to a three.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Okay, So the last.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Book I gave it a three, and this is also
a three even though I enjoyed it more than the
last book three five. Still, yeah, it's still in.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
The three range. So yeah, good job. Three you didn't
tell three is good. It's a good story. Yeah. Will
this be on my top recommendation list? No it will not.
But you know, if anybody else me for enemies to Lovers,
I'm giving them this right if they really just want Actually,
this should be a great teaching book for your writers.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
So if you have someone that really wants to write
Enemies to Lovers and they're not quite grasping it, refer
them to this. Yes, oh yes, it's a great teaching moment.
Oh you guys, let us know. How did you rate
Rebble which which I don't really love the title for
some reason, but it's a terrible title.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, I don't love it.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
But how did you rate it? Did you enjoy it
more than the first book less than the second book?
Have you read more? By Kristen Siicarelli? Would you read more?
Tell us all the things, like comments on Spotify or
YouTube or wherever you're listening. We'd love to hear from you.
And I think that's it and we'll see you in
the next one. Take care of yourselves by everybody.

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