#FantasySeries Review of The Darkness Outside Us | Book Chat - Shelf Addiction Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, book lovers, Welcome back to shelf Addiction, the podcast
where we dive deep into the pages of thriller and
fantasy reads. I'm your host, Tamara, and today we are
discussing the first book in our new sci fi duology,
The Darkness Outside Us. But first, quick heads up. If
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Speaker 1 (00:44):
Subscribe and leave us a podcast review. Wherever you are listening,
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if you're enjoying the podcast, do that for us. Speaking
of community, I am thrilled to welcome back my fantasy
series bestie and co host Casey from Heart full of Ink.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Welcome back, Casey. Hello, Hello, I'm so excited to be
here again. As always, as.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Always tell everyone where they can find you online.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You can find me on Facebook at Heartful of Ink,
on Instagram at Casey Underscore Heartful of Ink, or on
my website heartfullfink dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, you can also find me in all the usual places.
The links are in the show notes, so click around
down there do all the things. We appreciate you for
doing it. First up, we are going to share some
shelf and personal updates currently reading.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Have we been reading? So? I just finished the third
book in our favorite series or unofficial favorite series, Skithan
Sparrow by Brin Weaver. It was amazing and we have
a super secret bonus episode for Patreon only people. If
you want to listen to us talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes 'eger two, you guys will have access. So I
finished that as well because I'm excited to talk about happy.
I was really happy with it. Yeah, like you, thank God. So, yes,
that is on deck is available. I think right now,
by the time this comes out onto the feed, you
guys have.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Access to that.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
But I too haven't been reading too much outside of
the podcast. But what I have been doing is I
started on Peacock. I think it was long Bright River.
That was a previous buddy read that classy and I did,
I think two years ago now, and it was the
book club read it too, so some of the you know,
old school people read it with us, and yeah, I said,

(02:39):
I said, let's watch the adaptation. It can't be as
bad as the book.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh oh so okay.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I had to go back and refresh my memory on
what I read it the book. I rated it a two. Oh,
and I did. Then I started remembering the story and
remembering some of my critiques, and I remember it being
very slow.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
The pacing was.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Slow to you know, gear up and slow to just
very medium pace throughout the rest of the book. And
the show is that way it starts. I fell asleep
on the first episode.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, that's not a good review.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
It's not good, but I feel like the acting is
pretty good. I just feel like if the show copies
the book, then things will start to pick up. It's
just like got this small, like small world, feeling like
it takes place in a major city, but like the
world seems small, do you know what I mean? Like

(03:34):
the characters are really about themselves and inf into like
this one particular thing and this one family and this
like it's yeah, it's hard to explain without telling this story,
but I feel like, you know, I like the actors
in it, so I want to give it a shot.

(03:54):
I watched three episodes.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
No adding this to my list.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
No, Honestly, I'm not sure when I'm gonna finish it,
if I'm being truthful, but I will finish it. But
now that I know all the episodes is a mini series,
so they're not going to do a season two.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Which I like.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
It's going to be the book that's it, so I'll
finish eventually. But that's what I've been watching outside of
reading the stuff for the podcast. I do have a
book I started today, so I guess technically this is
my TBR. I got a recommendation from one of the
ladies at Zumba.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh cool.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, The Perfect Marriage by Geneva Rose, and I've seen
her name before.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Uh huh. It's another thriller, you know. That's what I read,
and I'm not reading fantasy.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yes, so yeah, I started that this morning, actually after
I finished today's book that we're going to talk about.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
So it seems interesting so far.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Apparently there's this really successful lawyer wife and she's not
been giving all the attention to her husband because she's
been busy being successful and you know, rocking out and
he's feeling low because he's a writer and he sucks.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
He's a man. Yeah, so he's a man.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So I I have a feeling some things are going
to happen. So yeah, it seems interesting. So that's what's
on my immediate TVR. Do you have anything on yours?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Not really? Uh, we have a book picked out to
read that I just it popped up on my libby
this morning, lights out by NESSA like it. It just
became available, So I'm like, do I read it now
or do I wait two weeks before we get ready
to record and start reading it? Whoa, it's available now.

(05:44):
I don't know. Okay, so well you talk about it
after but this later. But yeah no, yeah, that's really
the only thing that's like definitively going to be read soon. Yeah.
I might just pick up a random book tonight and
starf reading just for fun. Oh that's fun. Yeah see
that's yeah, yeah, just to find a selfish read something

(06:08):
just for me. Yeah. I don't know what that'll be though.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
It doesn't even matter whatever as long as you enjoy
it because you don't stop reading it.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, I am the queen of that. If you don't
capture me by like page two, I put the book
down and walk away.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Especially we do sacrifice for the podcast to book clubs.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, but I will sacrifice for you. But I will
sacrifice my own free time. No, not my own personal reading,
no way.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
No.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
If I'm not hooked, I don't want to. So yeah, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
So Actually, I think this is a great time to
take our first break, and when we come back, we
will kick off the main events.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Stay with us.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, welcome back everyone. Before we begin, as always, I
want to remind you that we talk full spoilers with
book Chats boiler alert. You've been warned. Today we are
discussing The Darkness Outside Us by Elliott Shreefer. The audiobook
was narrated by James Fuhe first published June first, twenty
twenty one, by Clarion Books and HarperCollins Audio. The hardcover

(07:16):
comes in at three hundred and ninety seven pages. The
unabridged audio is nine hours and forty nine minutes. Casey,
would you kindly share the synopsis.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Two Boys Alone in Space, Sworn Enemies Scent on the
same rescue mission. Ambrose wakes up on the Coordinated Endeavor
with no memory of a launch. There's more that doesn't
add up. Evidence indicates strangers have been on board. The
ship's operating system is voiced by his mother, and his handsome,
brooding shipmate has barricaded himself away. But nothing will stop

(07:48):
Ambrose from making his mission hit. But nothing will stop
Ambrose from making his mission succeed, not when he's rescuing
his own sister. In order to survive the ship's secrets,
Rose and Kodiak must work together and learn to trust
each other, especially once they discover that they what they
are truly up against. Love might be the only way

(08:09):
to survive.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
That was a short and sweet synopsis, very short, very sack.
It gave nothing away.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Absolutely nothing. I like that. I really appreciate that it
gave nothing away.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Like, Okay, before we jump into that high level, what
did you think was your initial?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I really liked it. It was so different from everything
we've ever read. It was, yeah, like, we've read sci
fi before, we've read gay romance before, we've read rescue
missions before, we have read Enemies to Lovers so many
goddamn times. Yeah, and this had all of those elements,

(08:49):
but it was still completely different from everything. And I
love that.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, me too. I pretty much echo your sentiments exactly.
The was to find something different. I really wanted something
like a palette cleanser, right, I said, We've been reading
a lot of things that seemed similar, Yes, in the
same vein, and I was on a hunt to find
something really unique, and.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
That this book lived up to that expectation.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
It delivers in percent in every way possible, every single way,
completely different. Yeah, And so I was like, Wow, I
can't believe I did it.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I was so worried when you started. I was like,
oh no, is this gonna be like Red Rising? Is
it gonna be you know, enemies to lovers kind of stuff?
But no, it was so so different. Yeah, and I
enjoyed it. I had a time with it.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
And so we were talking about how the synopsis didn't
give anything away.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
When we got to part two, Oh god, I was like,
oh shit. I didn't see that coming.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, I was sitting there reading, going, is he
really about to kill his main character? Oh shit, he
just killed the lovengest and now the main character's dying too.
What is happening. Yeah, And I was like what and
then here we go, here we go, yeah, waking up again.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
And at first I was like, is this like a
groundhog Day?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And I was like, oh, I got clones. C clones.
I didn't guessing I was thinking groundhog Day too, some
kind of like terrible every time you die you come back.
But I don't know why I didn't think clones. But yeah, no,
it was because we haven't read anything. We haven't read

(10:39):
anything with clones. Yeah, something you don't come across a lot,
very unique, Yeah, very good. Oh yeah, so where should we?
Where should we? Really? I mean, let's start with part one.
How did you think going into the story was it?
Because there were kind of creepy vibes immediately from page one,
where I was like, some, obviously stuff is not adding up. Yeah,

(11:01):
obviously something weird is going on. But like, did you
looking back, did you think that was his first clone
or do you think that was like the second or
the third or like somewhere down the line.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So initially, when we found out they were clones, I
started wondering was he the first I did wonder that,
And then by the time I finished the book, I
figured he wasn't I figured he might have been three
or four, Yes, because they were so far away. Yes,
because how many they had left. And then our main
I guess the chunk of the story was the furthest clones.

(11:38):
That pair of clones went was the pair thirteen. So
pair thirteen with the longest they lived the longest.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
They made it to their thirties, which was crazy.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, so I'm like, well, that must the original must
have been three or four because it kept happening a
few times in short succession, and we were jumping large
periods of time. So I'm like, okay, yeah, that's where.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, that was wild.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
But at first I really did think, you know, maybe
he was the first person. At first I thought, well
he was the original person, that he had clones his backup. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I was thinking that too. I really thought they're like, okay,
the main like this is the main person dying and
then everybody after is a clone. But nope, main person
stayed here on Earth or the the real Ambrose was both. Yeah, yeah,
both of them.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
They stayed on Earth and lived out their old age
or however however long they lived naturally mm hmm, until
they died.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I wonder if they ever met on Earth and if
their humans ever fell in love or if they.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Just went not because they were from different countries. Yeah,
opposing countries, which is sad. I kind of wish they
had that long life together. But well goes to show that,
you know, if you're not put in, proximity is a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Proximity is everything.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, when it comes to all kinds of relationships, romantic relationships, friendships, Yeah,
proximity means everything. And on Earth they had no reason
to run in the same circle at all.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
They had no reason to meet each other.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
So but I kind of wonder had they had the
opportunity to be around each other, would they have I
think they would have had.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
A brief fling. I don't think they would have had
such a deep love for each other.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
No, no, I mean when you're on a spaceship only
one person, yes, you know that person looks awfully good
to you.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You know, it's like there's no other options. I mean,
I was wondering, like, Kodiak looks hot, he's built, he
has muscles, he has the dark hair, like he looks hot.
I was wondering if he looked ugly with me of
this much mystery. You know.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Ambrose said, you know, he's not really my type, but
he did say that a couple times. Each iteration, each
iteration of him was like.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, yeah, he's not really my type because I like
them thin and wispy. But he's hot and I'll climb
him like a tree. I was like, so what if
he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Hot, what if he was you know, what if he
wasn't hot, I'd like to think that they would eventually
fall anyway, because you know how when you see someone,
they may not be chef's kiss right off, like visually,
but once you start to get to know them, they
start looking cut or uglier, depending on what their mouth,
their personality. Absolutely, yeah, I'm sure like if he wasn't

(14:46):
that hot looking, eventually he would have fell in love
with him.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Anyway. I feel like that. It's a very romantic take.
I love that.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, yeah, I had warm blood inside my body. Well yeah,
I thought they were really cute each each time, like wow,
oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
No, each iteration was so them but unique at the
same time, Like Kodiak kind of had a couple of
breakdowns and some of these iterations and Ambrose would try
and hold him back and an Ambrose would have a
breakdown or it was so interesting to watch the author

(15:28):
keep their personalities the same but have them react differently
each time.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yes, like the one time where and I forget which
set this was because we kind of lost count of
the sets in the in between, but you know, Kodiak
would absolutely bat shit. He was trying to break things
he was thinking about. He thought it was like a
simulation or something. He's like, we're gonna beat this.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Let's get out of here.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
And he's like, no, the rover thing had to like
to cute him, like god damn.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Like oh multiple times and even multiple times fix it
and he's still just like hit the hit the door
and cut. He wants out of space, and yeah, he
wanted out.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
He thought he was just going to get out of
an underground simulation or something and they would just be
in their world problem solved, like they're trying to trick us.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Which you know I would probably have that reaction at
some point too.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, So what do you think about, you know, the
method that the humans decided to use these clones? Like
do you think because like I think even Ambrose asked
or kind of post a question like what if we
just knew about this from the beginning. Would we have
just done our jobs or would we not what we

(16:51):
need to be tricked by the operating system.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I feel like they kind of answered that question themselves
when they said, you know, people would just stop working.
They they didn't want to just die, you know, they
wanted to have They wanted to feel like they had
a purpose. They wanted to feel important. They wanted to
feel the emotional connection of I have to go save

(17:15):
my sister. They needed it, you know, the whole deal.
They didn't know the whole deal.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
If they knew so for example, we learned at the end,
obviously spoiler alert, we learned at the end. Their goal
was to go and birth babies like birth, like through
like through science, science, through science, and like these birthing pods.
They're going to create a new humanity from scratch. They

(17:40):
had a lot of eggs. Yeah, and they were supposed
to do this was the task, and they did. None
of the clones knew this, none of them until they
landed there. But I kind of feel like, if you
had told the clones, you have this huge responsibility to
repopulate the entire like repopulate a civilization, you have something

(18:02):
to live for, you have something to work for. But
these clones didn't even know a fraction of what.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Because it took them thirty thousand years to get there.
And so I feel like maybe some of the clones
would have been like, yes, let's protect the babies, let's
die for this cause. But I think some of the
other clones would have still been like fuck this, Like

(18:33):
let's find a different planet, let's do something else, Let's.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't go back a step. So what if, because
you remember when they talk about when they created these clones,
they took them from a point in their memory, so
their memory stopped. Yes, but what if Kodiak and Ambrose
were taught with the lesson what the goal is and
they had embodied it. I'm going to do this. I
feel okay, this is the right thing to do, and

(19:00):
then they were cloned after that break.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I'm gonna say something kind of controversial. Okay, I feel
like if they were women, that would work better. M Like,
I feel like women are slightly more maternal, not that
men can't be maternal, like I'd be good dads all
of that stuff, but I feel like women saying we

(19:24):
got to take care of these babies. We got to
take care of these eggs. We need to repopulate Earth
two point zero. I feel like that might have worked
with women. I don't think it would have worked with
two male soldiers because they were soldiers.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Men and soldiers specifically male soldiers have that very driven
like this is a rescue mission. We're gonna be heroes.
We have to save this person. Like it's a very
straightforward A plus B equals C. We're gonna save her
and then go home kind of thing, you know. And

(20:06):
they kept showing him the video of his sister where
she's bloody and injured and saying, you have to fix
the ship in order to come rescue me. Like that
felt very like that that's how men would react to it.
They need that, whereas women would be like, Okay, yes,
let's be more maternal, let's continue Earth, let's repopulate with

(20:33):
all of these embryos. I think.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Okay, So, I think that Ambrose would have been able
to do it. He seems more in touch with his
feelings than Kodiak. Absolutely, absolutely he might have been able
to do the task with the full knowledge upfront. Kodiak, No,
I think I probably need something else. But I don't

(20:59):
think because Ambrose was the storyteller, he was the one
having to deal with finding out every time that his
whole family was dead. Like that sucks. You got to
find out when you figure out your clone, and then
you figure out, my whole family's been dead for thousands
of years.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
But you're still hearing your mother's voice, you're still seeing
these videos of your sister that are fake. And then
it's like, oh, that would drive me crazy. That would
definitely drive me crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Right, like stop lying, Because every iteration of them, they
get a little bit smarter about how to defeat the
operating system, yes, about how to transfer knowledge to the
next versions of them without it like interrupting that, you know,
without it being smart enough to figure out what they're doing.
So each time they got a little bit more information

(21:53):
to where the final final pair they like had videos.
I mean, it got so bad that the operating system
actually stopped trying to deceive them and just went along
because it knew there's no.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, they destroyed like most of the other clones, all
of them except for the last pair.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
And that's what I don't remember. Do you remember the
total amount of clones they had?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I think it was like I remember twelve left. I
don't remember anything higher than twelve, but I think there
may have been like fifteen, like the starting from number one,
there may have been like fifteen. Okay, because that's weird.
So if thirteen was the one that lived the longest.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
That's why because I remember hearing and they killed us,
but that wasn't well, we know, every year they like
kind of had like this celebration slash memorial for the clones.
So every year they threw a clone out into space.
For several years they did this. So I'm if I
had to guess thirteen plus what ten years of them

(23:05):
throwing out clones, maybe they had twenty five clones each, maybe,
I think so, like if I had to guess there
was a lot, they had a lot because with Okay,
so the thing is they would wake the clones when
there were so many repairs that needed to be done,
so the ship would just work with them in stasis whatever.

(23:28):
They just keep the clones there because it's so far
and so long you cannot have people awake eating the resources.
They're just gonna die anyway. So they would wake them.
They would do the task, and then when the task
were done, they would shoot them out. They would kill
them and kill them yeah, and then round, next round again,

(23:48):
and then it would be one thousand, couple thousand years
and the task would fly up, you know, in quantity,
and then they again repeat, wash, repeat yep until they
reached the planet. And then when they reached a planet
where they told, here is your mission behind a door,
here's the mission, yes, which you're here, which is crazy.
That's crazy, that is crazy, that is insane, that's ingenius.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
That's a really smart story. Is it was so well done,
and it was you know, each time you're peeling back
a new layer, you're discovering something new about the ship,
about Ambrose and Kodiak. You're discovering something new each time
about the ship itself and the mission. And how are

(24:37):
they going to fight back against a fucking computer when
they're stuck in space and they have to you know,
whisper and talk under the blanket and right like.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Right on a tablet that's disconnected from everything. Actually, the
version of Ambrose that was smart enough to put the
os prime on his watch, like, oh my god, if
he had never done that, they would still be in
this awful circle.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
They would never know, oh yeah, you know. I feel
like it's because he is that smart. He would have
done it eventually, but I'm glad like he did it
somewhat early on and was able to, you know, upload
the stories and tell his selves and then hide them
in places where he knew the computer wouldn't find it,

(25:25):
like porn. That was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, so Ambrose knows once you see Kodiak, you're gonna
start thinking about him, and you're gonna start looking for
porn that.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Look for a very specific porn. I know, I'm you,
and this is exactly what I is, what I do,
This is what I did. So here you go.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I'm just gonna lay this audio in here, and I know,
because you don't want the operating system to hear you,
you're gonna put headphones in yep, and I'm gonna be able.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
To tell you this why you watch this porn? Really?
Like that is brilliant.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Like who would hid messages in four digraph in a
porn video?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
That's I don't know. I was trying to think what
I would do for myself. I think I would like
try and write it in a book, like pick up
one of my favorite books and then write between the
lines and then the margins and be like all right, Casey,
I knew you were going to pick up this book,
so here's here's what's happening.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, oh my gosh. Well then you'd have to believe it.
You know, you're writing, And that's the thing. Each clone
they're themselves, so they recognize their own voice when it's
talking to them. In the later iterations of thirteen, they
were writing doing videos. They know what they look like.
They're like, oh, if you want to see what you
look like at thirty seven, here.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
We are, Here we are. That was really cute. It's like, yeah,
kodyak put on a little bit of LB, but he's
still hot, so it's great. I will say that one
video of his death, Ambrose's death was very scary. Yeah,

(27:08):
that one made me like, oh shit, can I lock
my doors that night?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Like yeah, like the the an West killed him.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
It crawled in, yeah, through the ceiling something somehow, and
then slashing his throat while he was asleep, and I
was like, Okay, normally books don't scare me, but I
don't want robots crawling into my room. Slashing my throats was.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Like doing it and it's like it just the os
sent him or that you know, Rover as its executioner,
as it's cleaner, as it's everything. That little thing was
running around doing all kind of shit, and literally that
version of Ambrose was like, I'm going to update this
audio every day, this video every day, and if it

(27:57):
does not, if it doesn't get refreshed, because I'm dead, And.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Then watched the video of him die and you're like, oh, yeah,
this is terrifying, and it's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I was like, dang, author, This author was able to
get into, like tap into a live different feelings during.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
The look every type of emotion from shock and horror
to love and pain and sadness. I felt bad for
them so many times, just a whole human psyche.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
He did a good job with tapping into that absolutely,
and honestly, it was very balanced. So while this was
a love story, it was also a lot of other things,
and it didn't feel too heavy on the love where
it felt unbelievable, you know what I mean. It was
just enough and it was balanced with the science and

(28:55):
space and then the last the action and the threat,
yes right, as well as the isolation and other feelings
that they were having from being out in this place
where they didn't even know where the hell they were.
They were looking at a fake screen. They see what
was outside. This thing was manipulating them day in and

(29:21):
day out until they forced it. They broke it, They
broke the os, and then it stopped. That's wild to me.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Isn't it. It's crazy saying that. But also, like I
mentioned earlier, everything was so different. Every iteration, they had
a new emotional reaction. You know. Sometimes they fell in
love really easily and they would just hold each other
immediately like an old and married couple. And sometimes they're like, no,
we're just torny. And sometimes there was when they lived forever,

(29:55):
he really got to experience what love was like, long
term love. Oh I loved that one. I was so good.
And then when he was talking about it later and
his new self was like I don't care about this shit,
I was like, oh my god, if my future self
could talk to me about this, like you would give
anything for this? And every yes.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So that span the thirteenth set that had lived the
longest time, you know, they talked about you know, Ambro
shared how you know, Kodiak went a little nuts, And
then it was my turn to go a little nuts.
I woke up one day and lost my shit and
I was like, yeah, I it would too. Yeah, and
he said, we decided I would just go on a

(30:37):
little and trade adventure and I was gone for six weeks.
He was gone, and like, what I thought of is
you know how on Star Trek they would go into
this thing and it would look like the.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Woods or look like whatever they wanted. And he was
just this thing was so huge. He could just be
gone for six weeks. That's exactly what I pictured too. Yeah,
And I was like, you know what, I could walk
along a beach for six weeks. Right about now?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
I need are incredible, Yeah, I need a break from
all this drum.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
And then and then he talked about you know when
he came back right after that, he was gone for
six weeks, and right before he just wanted to kill
a Kodiak. He was hated him, he was over everything.
But as soon as he came back, he ran up
and hugged him and loved him because yeah, it was
it was so beautiful. It was beautiful. I'm like, look
at the and that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
This is how and it's you almost wonder how do
characters mature and grow in this kind of situation, and
this is how, this is how he was able to
do it, even though he had to start over again,
I know, but.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
It was still that beautiful of like this is life,
and the author gave us their whole lives or the
twenty years of this life, this one particular life in
quick snippets where we could see him falling apart but
also see him growing and loving. And then when Kodiak died,

(32:08):
he was like, all right, I'm done too. I'm killing myself.
I don't want to live about him. He died of cancer.
That was so sad.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I had cancer and they tried the rover operated with
him and they thought they had it but they didn't.
And then a year later he died. I'm like, oh,
that's so sad. See I'm like, oh horrible.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
But they kept talking about the radiation and like how
bad the radiation is and how we'll get radiation and
die in our twenties. So the fact that he made
it to like mid thirties was fantastic, but it is
so fucking sad. Of all the deaths, I think that
one almost brought me to tears, because you got so
smart by that iteration.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
By the thirteenth iteration, he was no longer up there
trying to like steer the ship and stuff. That was
like whatever age, whatever iteration that was where he went
up there and he literally had had radiation poisoning and
he died really.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Fast, really fast. That was awful too. I think that
was really bad Part two or part three, like, it
was fairly and horrible.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
So after that, of course they wrote everything down, they
were laid everything, so once they changed you know, what
they were doing, and so they were able to live
longer because they weren't up there doing things that would
kill them off faster. So they had some radiation, which
makes me wonder how long will the final couple live.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Who knows, it's been what a year mm hmm. Hopefully
they live another twenty years.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
But well, they better hurry up with getting those those
eggs made. Yeah, they better hurry because if you only
have and actually the character mentioned that, like what happens
if I, like have a freak accident tomorrow and all
these eggs are still here.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Well you better start popping out more babies. It's gonna
be like these wild little kids running all raise the
like I don't know, Oh my gosh, but can you
imagine though, Like I cannot imagine all of these people
that they have from humans, all different spans of life.

(34:14):
Probably hopefully, Yeah, so when they re say something about
like making sure everybody was like not even remotely related
related when they grow up, they can keep populating the
earth and not worry about any sort of cross contamination.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I mean, honestly, they probably need to just do them.
If they only have one pod, as soon as that
baby popped out, they should put another one in.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I was thinking, like, I could you get a couple
babies at a time. It would be really difficult to
take care of multiple babies at a time, to be crazy,
but somebody got into somebody gotta do it.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, and then by the time they get to us,
eighteen years and then you're still having babies. And then
finally probably the couples will start pairing off eventually and
start having kids on their own. But it's going to
take but yeah, I think like twenty years make least, probably, yeah,
at least, so I don't know. But at that point
when they were they were a year into their stay

(35:10):
on that planet, so they were only like nineteen years old, right,
at that point, so they're still young.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
They were young, but they felt old. Yeah, old because
they've lived so many lifetimes and they have all of
their history right at their fingertips. Yeah. Isn't that crazy
how you can be old and young at the same time.
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I wonder if they feel that way after hearing all
the stories from their previous selves.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Do they feel old? I think they would mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, that's wow, and you're h yeah, you're it. I
want to talk about what do you think about the
scene where they were killing the clones and the OS
is screaming bloody murder like they're murderers.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I don't think they're murderers. I also don't know if
that was the right choice, Like, it was definitely a
good choice, but my thought was, like, Okay, obviously the

(36:22):
OS can't kill them off if there's nobody left. But
once you get to the planet, and like, if they
had known this, maybe they wouldn't have killed off all
their clones. They could have just woken up all of
the clones, right, and then you would have had a
bunch of clones. A bunch of clones was running around it.
It was a little weird, but I was like, then

(36:42):
you could have like multiple iterations on Earth, making sure
the babies are growing up, making sure everything's running smoothly,
and like, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Because they did that, that's why they crash landed. Oh
they didn't have any more clones to keep up with them.
And I think the care of things.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
The ship I was alone for like like twelve thousand
years or something, and that's why I was falling apart
and covered in moss.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
And you bring in a plant and you're like, oh, fun, plant, yeah,
and then you die and then what do you think
happens when vegetation starts?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
And that thought to I was like, I would not
bring a plant onto my spaceship.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
No, And how it messed with the oxygen levels, it
messed with corrosion, all these things. It just totally tanked
that ship and there was no one to wear around
to do maintenance because you know, killed all the.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Clones exactly, so exactly. That's why it's like, it's a
good idea and it was helpful for this iteration, But
I don't know if I would have I maybe like
killed half of them.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I mean, honestly, I feel like, ultimately I understand the
love story and that they wanted to be together as
long as they could. But that was very selfish, yes,
and the scheme of things. But also again it's it's
only so I only can call it selfish because I have,
like the twenty twenty perview.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I know what the end is. They did they didn't.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
In again, if they knew, if the os had told
them what the end game was, they might not have
done that.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
They probably wouldn't have done it. Probably not. I agree
one hundred percent. Yes, I agree with everything you're saying
right now.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yes, but the thirteenth set they did what they felt
they needed to do with what the information they had.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
So and I'm not saying it's wrong. Yeah, like they
they got their love story, they got the computer to
stop murdering them because you know, they all would have
died anyway, Yeah, they would have.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
So Okay, Actually, I think this is a great time
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(39:06):
welcome back.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
So I thought of something and this is just a
fun note for us, because if anybody has been paying
attention over the years, they know that you and I
agree on one big thing. We hate babies in the epilogue.
We hate it. We will throw a book down if

(39:28):
there's a baby in the epilog. Yes, I think you
and I both enjoyed, like appreciated these babies, right.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I did, because I thought, Okay, this is what I thought.
I'm like, so you got too dudes.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yep, two dads. You can't do anything.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
They're just gonna die and now what So that made sense.
It worked for Yes, the story, for the story.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
They were there to repopulate, they were there to be dads,
they were there to help Earth two point zero. But like,
it was just one of those things where I was like,
you and I hate babies at this time. I hate it. Yeah.
I think that just proves how good this book was

(40:13):
and how different it was from everything else we've ever read.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, because in this case, it wasn't that traditional baby plow.
It was very different.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
It was and it was a very marriage baby Happily.
Ever after this is how life has to be. No,
this was one hundred percent like, we are here with
this is our mission. We are scientifically making babies. We
have to save earth, save humanity, like it felt because

(40:45):
the earth is gone. The Earth is gone. Yeah, that
was very satisfying. That left it.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
And even though there's part two, I guess we get
to see what happens if they keep churning out these kids.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yes, I hope and podiokers live in book two, Like
I really hope. Looking at the cover art, I feel
like they're at least in part of it. At least.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I don't know if they'll be in the whole book,
because I'm I got to assume at some point this
author does massive time jumps, So yeah, they really they'll
die I've ever read Yeah, so even trying to grow uh,
you know, humanity from scratch. I'm sure if I had
to guess, And of course I don't know for sure.

(41:28):
I haven't read the book yet, But if I had
to guess, I think they'd be around probably, and then
eventually we'll see them die of old age at some
point and then we carry on with the story. I'd
like to think the author got us to a happily
ever after at the end of the second book, I hope,
I hope.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
So yeah, Like this was definitely a happily for now.
They speak of everything, they're on the planet, they're still
doing their mission. Things are working out, so it's happily
for now, And I hope there's a good, happy ending
in book two and not like dinosaurs or aliens coming
around eating everybody. Yeah, this end was so satisfying. It

(42:06):
could have ended there.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Absolutely, it could have been to us to think what happens,
But it totally could have been a standalone yeah, which
I like when they're able to do that where it
could go either way. Yes, where I want to see
what happens next, but I'm okay if there isn't a next.
But yeah, what did you think about the role of

(42:30):
Ai in the book the os and the Rover thing.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Well, first of all, it's hella creepy, also very murdery,
so that's very scary and I don't want Ai crawling
into my room slitting my throat in the middle of
the night. So like, yay, New Night Terrors, thank you,
You're like New Fear a lot lots thanks.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
It was.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
It was really interesting. Yeah, and I'm still I think
I'm still trying to process how I feel about it.
So I'm not like it was good. It was interesting.
I understand why the AI was doing what it was doing.
I understand how it was able to fulfill the mission
by itself, because like, yeah, no human can live for

(43:22):
twelve thousand years, right right. It was good, but also
kind of creepy because there were a lot of times
where like the mother's voice or the OS was like, no,
you have to do it this way because this is
the mission and I have determined this is what humans need.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
And that's what I don't like because usually when we
have AI in robots and things like that, that is
like one of the directives that they're unable to hurt humans.
That is supposedly one of the things that they're not
supposed to be able to do. And yeah, OS and
it's rover had no problem.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
No problem.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
It was.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Killing those clones.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
It was doing whatever it needed to do to get
the mission done, and that was its directive. Get the
mission done at any cost, It does not matter what
you say or do.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
So that is very dangerous. That's a very dangerous thing.
But I don't know, maybe once this operating system dies once.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
And for all, they would have it. I thought about that.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
I'm like, how's this thing just going and going? And
then of course they're like, oh, we have a generator
that feeds off of them.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
But one thing I did think was funny, and you
won't get this if you don't listen to the audiobook. Okay,
So at the beginning where Ambrose is trying to get
the operating system to change his voice. At the beginning
where he's like, oh, I want you sound like my mom,
sound like this hot man, write this actor.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
I remember that.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yes, yes, on the audio book it is hello, change
the voice. He's like thinking about He's like, oh, this voice,
I could jess. You know, he's like in love with
the voice.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
And then you know when Cody aks like, change it back, funny,
change it back. It was funny.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Like so, yeah, I think that was the only time
in the whole book I actually thought anything was really funny.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, but there's not a lot of funny things in
this book. No.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I'm like, we got one little highlight of comedy at
the beginning, and the rest is not like that.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
But again, like we keep saying it was a really
good diversity of emotions. Right. The author was able to
give us every emotion, everything you know and humor. Humor
was a great way to start the book. Even if
it wasn't throughout the whole book, we still had those

(45:58):
moments of lovity. And there are a couple other jokes
in there too where I was like, oh, okay, this
is a little funny. They're very small, very brief, nothing
like the voice, which, yeah, even if you're reading it,
I was laughing at that, especially when Kodiak was like
change it, change it back. He's like, I don't want
to hear this.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
What do you think about their histories and how that
like informed their clones, Like, for example, you know Kodiak,
he grew up like a very tough guy. Right, Their
training was very different than Ambrose's training when he talks
about hooking up with boys in the training.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yes, I really liked how different they were, but how
similar they were at the same time. Right, Like Ambrose
was basically fed from the silver spoon. He was the
Golden Boy. He had the DNA of Alexander the Great,
so he felt like he was the greatest, like a

(46:59):
super a superstar. But he still had all of that training,
and he had basically the same instructions of do everything
for your country, fight for your country, sacrifice yourself for
your country, and that when Kodiak went insane in that
one iteration he was saying that, he was like, oh

(47:22):
my god, I have given everything to my country. I'm
supposed to be a good soldier. I did all the
right things. I said yes to everything. I was like, okay,
so they are they're two sides at the same coin, right,
Like it's Kodiak did this not with a silver spoon,
but it was basically the same.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Well, you can even tell how their country's treated them.
So for example, on Ambrose side, you know, he's got
a violin, he's got manakati, he's got like some luxuries, right,
and it seems like Kodiak has some things, but not
really eat your food.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Over here, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
You know, it's very interesting how the country treated the
Clones differently, like they had a different level of like
how the society was for them.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
H m hm. Which, yeah, it really played into both
of their personalities and how they reacted to this and
how they were able to overcome these issues and still
be there for each other and fall in love with
each other, and it was just the author has an

(48:37):
incredible talent for character arcs and character growth and character
personality and killing off your main characters repeatedly, but bringing
them back and giving them the same but something new
at the same time. Yeah, that's a choice.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I mean, that's it's hard to do, and he did
it successfully because this, like we were saying, at first,
I thought, is this gonna be a groundhat day thing?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Is it a word that could have went really bad? Oh? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Like yes, yeah, it was really unique, and I was
really surprised. I felt like I had gone girl level surprise.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
When I was like, oh my god, they're closed. Oh absolutely,
because well, first of all, in ninety nine point nine
percent of all books and movies, you don't kill off
the main character. It happens occasionally, and when it does happen,
it's almost always at like the near the end of
the book, right or the end of the movie, you know,

(49:41):
after they've gone on their adventure and done all this stuff.
And so we're nearing the end of part one and
I'm like, we're not even halfway through the book. We're
like maybe thirty percent of the way into the book.
And oh my god, it looks like he's about to
fucking die. And then they both died, and I was like,
what is happening right now? How was this happening? It

(50:02):
was so shocking and again like the blurb doesn't tell
you anything, which peak peak blurb. Love that, Yeah, I
was like, wow, I did not did not see that.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I know.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
At first, I was like, oh my god, is Kodiak
gonna die and Ambrose is going to be alone for
the rest of the book, Like what are you doing?
I kept trying to, like, you know, solve it and
figure out what was going on, and I couldn't. And
I loved that. Yeah, me too, I really did, Like
I was it perfection? No, No, but it was. It

(50:36):
had a lot more things right than wrong. Absolutely, absolutely, yeah,
it's I am so happy we read this too. This
was this was everything you asked for, This was everything
we wanted, Like, this was yes, yeah, So I.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
I'm just so relieved because, yeah, this could have went
any kind of way. It could have been so bad,
but it could have Like I on purpose, I didn't
read any of the reviews. I didn't read anything because
you know, I just read the synopsis and said and
of course we listened to the first part read the first.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Part the sample. I'm like, this sounds so different, let's
try it. Yes, yes, it was so good.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Such a success. I love when something good happens. Okay,
any other what do you think any other things we
should highlight or discuss before we rate it? Uh?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Can I just say that I'm now craving manakachi and
I want to go eat some Italian food tonight, like
they to it so much. And it was like, it's
just pasta and cheese and tomato sauce. I was like,
that sounds so good. It just sound good. Actually, actually,
you know, there's one more thing I wanted to comment on.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
So it looks like this is taggedus YA and you know,
yes they are Ya aged right, But it doesn't feel Whya.
It doesn't feel like I'm reading a YA book. It
does not feel like all that traditional teenage angsty shit.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
It's not all. This is a different It feels like
it could have been an adult book with younger people. Absolutely.
I almost kind of wish they called them like twenty
one twenty two, just so that like this could be shelved,
or like even twenty five, just so this could be
shelved in adult because this has so many adult themes. Yes,

(52:35):
But at the same time, I want to say, like,
I'm glad teenagers are picking this up and reading it
because this If I read this book as a teenager,
it would have been incredible.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
But see, I wonder would they even pick up on
like some of the things about morality, like, you know,
like them, is it moral to kill these clones?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Is it moral to lie like they did?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
You know, there's a lot of things that can be
more in depth than just the surface level action on
the page, you know. So that's why I'm like, if
it's why a well, maybe maybe I'm underestimating kids nowadays.
Maybe they could get into the nuts and bolts of
it and understand some of like, you know, the political

(53:20):
things happening.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I think teenagers can get into that, and I feel
like this is a good way to like at least
introduce them to that and introduce them to these themes.
So even if they aren't getting it at a surface
like right off the bat, it's something that they could
think about later in life and think back and be like,
oh my god, that's what the book was trying to
tell me all along.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah, because even Ambrose and so Kodiak, they're from like
Ambroses like from the United States and Kodiak's like from Russia,
you know.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yep. Their enemies. Yeah, supposed to be supposed to, but
somebody likes a certain type of pornography. It just doesn't
sound very enemies, like yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I just thought it was so interesting, like how you
bring these two different types of people with different upbringing
but they all had they still had a core mission, yes,
and how they were able to come together despite all
the things, despite the unusual circumstances they were in, and

(54:27):
they just keep falling in love over and over again.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yep. And it was beautiful. Like I know I've said that,
but it was just one of those beautiful love stories
where they don't fit but they fit and when they
do fit, like it was just there was one scene
of where he was talking about how they were just
sitting there looking out the window holding each other, and
I was like, this is one of the most romantic

(54:52):
moments of all times, Like this is beautiful. Yeah, and
the author really balanced out the different types of romance
and the different types of love that they had for
each other and all of that mixed with all of
the horror and the terror and everything else going on,
this was a beautiful book. Yeah, they had some sex

(55:16):
in the book, but it was basically closed door. Basically yeah,
closed door. Yeah we knew what was happening, but there's
no detail about it. They joke about it afterward.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
But yeah, they do have a little joke about, you know,
giving your receipt accepting. They have a joke about two
tops in space or some shit like what. Okay, it's funny. Yeah,
there's another little comedy part in there. There's a little
comedy around that. But yeah, let's let's go ahead and rate.

(55:50):
Let's go ahead and rate the book.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Would you like to go first? I can go first. Okay,
I'm going to give this a very emotional happy five stars.
There were a few issues, but I didn't really feel
like nitpicking or bringing them up, Like, there were so
many good things about the story that I can keep
talking about all of the good things. And this is
definitely a story or a book that I feel like

(56:13):
I could recommend to anybody. You know, I could recommend
this to teenagers. I could recommend this to adult friends.
I could recommend this to anybody who wants a sci
fi book, anybody who wants a love story, anybody who
wants really any sort of action adventure romance like this,

(56:35):
this book has it all. And the author's ability with
the character development and the personality and keeping all of
the emotions front and center, it was just beautiful. Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Agree with what you're saying, but I did rat it
a four. I gave it a four, but it's a strong,
enthusiastic four.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
And get to a point five, that's where I'd be like,
that's the happy four point five. But I'll give I'll
round up to a five.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Okay, so my four is I agree with Casey. I
would recommend this to any kind of reader pretty much,
especially if you've been reading a lot of the same
stuff and you just really need a reset. This is
a perfect book for that. It's perfect for that. Yes,
the author is very talented. He's definitely got some skills,

(57:23):
and he's able to write about things that are hard.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
In a way that is soft. Yes, that makes sense.
I'm like, yeah, very good. Yes out of ten, ten.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Out of ten we win? When when we got our
first real true win of the year. Yes, yes, next month,
hopefully you will come back and of course join us
in book clubs if you want to talk with us
and other listeners and book club members about the book.

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I believe this airs before book club. Come on over
and join us. And also next month we'll be finishing
the duology with the Brightness between us, and we're gonna
see what happens. I am curious to see what happened.
I'm very curious. Yes, I'm really. I am confident we
gonna have some time jumps. I know it.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
He is like his author's time jump happy, so he
time jumps like thirty thousand years across the I know.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Wouldn't it be crazy if it starts and they're like
thirty five years old? Oh my god. We shall see.

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We shall see. Yes, that's it for today's episode. Thanks
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