The Hunting Wives: Book vs. Netflix Adaptation

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, booklovers, Welcome back to shelf Addiction, the podcast where
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I'm your host, Tamara, and today we are sharing our
thoughts on the Hunting Wives Netflix TV show adaptation. We
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(00:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Fabulous, Yes Yeah, Hi, Hello, Hello, you ready to dive
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(01:35):
What did you think of the show? Where'd you think
of the adaptation?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I was like, hot, damn, they didn't play Netflix, did
not hold any punchos, and I like to show better
than the book.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
You know what. I tend to agree with you. I
think the show was a little more entertaining. They definitely
upped the Annie and so things. They changed quite a
few things they did, which we expect with adaptations generally speaking. Yes,
and I think, you know so for me, it started

(02:12):
a little slow, like that first episode, I was like,
I don't know what is this? Yeah, but I said, okay,
let's just keep going and then things got Yeah happy.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I felt the same way, but I realized they had
to do that for people who have not read the book. Yeah,
you know, like that's kind of I think, like with
television shows and movies and stuff like that. They got
to do that, like that world building. If you haven't
read the show, I haven't read the book, you know,
they got to kind of give you a background of it.

(02:45):
But I felt the same way too that with the
series from from when we read the book, we felt
like there were some things that were like lingering that
the author didn't flush out, like we you know, we
were suspecting some things, but I feel like with the

(03:08):
series it all came out because we were just like,
m that's exactly what we thought. Yep, that's exactly what
we thought. So uh. I did like that that the
series was able to flush out possibly what may Cobb
I think that's her name, or miss Cobbs. I can't
remember this Mayor was trying to do and if she wasn't,

(03:30):
Netflix was like, guess what, we're gonna do it. But
those are some of the things we thought.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, so for example, let's just jump into the
nitty gritty of it. This show is very queer more
than the book was.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
In the book, we were kind of like, what's going
on here? Like is she like her? Like that? Like,
you know, I feel like this is kind of skirting
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, because they called it obsession. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was obsession, but in like the kind of obsession
where you see somebody that you like, Like, yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Was a sexual attraction. Yeah, And I think you pointed
that out more than I did that, you know, like, well,
I think she likes her, and then I was kind
of like I thought she kind of was like maybe
I like this light, I want to be like her.
And it probably was all of the above, but yeah,
and then some of the other changes. And I don't

(04:31):
even know why they did that. In the book she
was from Chicago, my area, but they moved into Boston
or Cambridge. Yeah, but the Texas part like that, I
really I really did enjoy too that them being in
Texas and they you know, they added a lot of

(04:52):
the Republican trump Ism in the book. But I also
liked the fact that that underlying political religious aspect as
a cover for how these people really are because this
is real life, this happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well, that was definitely also stronger in the show to me. Like,
I don't think Sophie and her husband went to church
in the book at all. There was no church scene No,
they really amped that up. There was a lot of
fear around, like you know, Margo's husband trying to like
run for governor and he's trying to get people scared

(05:35):
of immigrants and other things.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
And I'm like, oh, she's Oh they politicized this a lot.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I'm like, Okay, remember was he running in the book.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I don't think he was running for any political office
in the book.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I don't think he was. Now I'm not sure if
he was already a politician.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, and I'm not going back.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, I'm not going back either. But there was no
storyline of him running for anything or you know, she
was concerned about people like learning what their lifestyle was.
And also I don't think in the book. Again, you know,
with the other themes in the book, I don't remember
them like having an open marriage like that where she

(06:20):
could just sleep with women and he didn't have a problem.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Oh, there was no women sleeping I don't think any
women were sleeping together at all in the book. I
think it was implied, you know, like, yeah, so you're right.
As a matter of fact, in the book, it was
more the women. It was more women centered. I think
the husband may have just been brought up just a

(06:44):
few times, but other than that, it wasn't any I
don't I don't remember his storyline. It was more, you know,
like just keeping a seat because it was like, oh,
we got this secret club, you know, we go do this,
So we go do that, and the husbands just kind
of give us money and we go. You know. The

(07:07):
only thing I do remember is then going to that bar,
because I think they were kind of flirty, if not
sleeping with some of the people.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
From their market, they were making out with the men there.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, they were.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I think there might have been a scene where one
of them went off with one of the men if
I remember. Yeah, But yeah, they were pretty much and
I think the show did show that accurately on the
time where they went out shooting and then they went
to the bar. That seemed true to the book.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
You know, Margo hooking up with Cali was like not
a thing. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't remember that, No, no, but we we did
think that there was some jealousy. Yeah, yeah, when Sophie
kind of came into the play, into the picture. But yeah,
but again, I really enjoyed that Netflix or the producers
or creators whoever you know, saw that and wanted to

(08:09):
flush this out in the book because and another thing,
when we read this book, we were like, this is
kind of written as if it's a movie. It's not
written as if it's a book. Like we just felt
like there was just so much more that could have
been been done. And I will say it was quite entertaining, folks.

(08:33):
It was clutchy pearls, it was raunchy, it was soft porn.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, And honestly it all made sense, like even Sophie
wanting to be kind of like infatuated with Margo in
that way because they went to her past, which we
didn't in the book, so we got to say, oh,
wait a minute, she's kind of a little bisexual for
a long time. He just stuffed it down. Yeah, you know,

(09:04):
it wasn't like this wild Oh my god, I'm so
exfatuated with this one woman. It was actually in her personality,
which I liked, versus like the other way of it
just being like, oh, I just want to be around her.
I'm so obsessed with everything about her. Now I'm just
going to be doing whatever which is you know how
it seemed in the book.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Right and then right in the book, it was kind
of like she was just trying to herp him fit
in into this community of women, and this was her
role model. Like, okay, so if I want to be
a part of the Hunting Wives, she is the best
person to mimic my life after you know. So yeah,
that part. I don't remember Sophie's sleeping with another teenager,

(09:48):
but it's been a while. We read this in twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
He did, like, I don't think, Okay, in the book,
I don't think I think it was similar to how
it happened in the show. I think she was with them,
he was flirting, okay, but I don't think she actually
slept with him like in the show. I think it
was similar to that if I remember correctly.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Okay, she didn't go she didn't go through with it.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
No, And another thing they changed was that in the book,
Margo was sleeping with Jill's son, but in the book
he was actually like seventeen or something. He was in
high school as he is in the show, but the
show made a decision to make him actually eighteen. So
that is a difference. Although I wouldn't have minded if

(10:34):
the show just went a little further with that and
made him a college student and not a high school student.
I think that would have made it a little bit
more comfortable and a little less cringe. But at least
they didn't have her sleeping with a minor as she
was in the book.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I know it's cringey, but it's
like it's still real life, you know. I think that's
the thing when we write some of these books, and
they didn't glamorize it, you know what I mean, like
they didn't make it seem like, oh, this is just

(11:10):
normal to do. It happened, And I know, I know
there was some book out and you mentioned it is
It the Boys or something where they were kind of
and it was really it was an uproar about this
book about or maybe it was a TikTok where the
girls were objectifying young boys based on that one book series. Yeah,

(11:37):
so you know that kind of thing, because it does,
I mean, it does happen. How many how many stories
do we see where teachers are sleeping with their students?
You know? So that part, I know it is cringe.
You guys, I cringe at it, Like I can't imagine
my best friend or even one of my friends I

(11:59):
won't even say my friend, any one of my friends
dating my teenage son.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Adult son. It's called girl code. Don't mess with your
friend's children, period. I don't care. That's gross. Don't do it.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, right, And that's the thing, like, not only
was he a teenager, he was your friend's son, like you,
just like I was surprised Margot didn't, you know, wind
up dead, but you know, Jill didn't find out. But yeah,
there there were I really enjoyed the story. I enjoyed

(12:34):
that it was eight episodes, pretty you know, and the
pacing of it wonderful, like you say, except for the
first episode, but you know, we had to kind of
to bring in the characters and introduce those characters, even
though it felt like that first scene between Margot and
uh Sophie was quite interesting in the bathroom, but that.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
For god, okay, so it can I just speak to
that right quick before you continue. So, first off, us women,
we've all had cycles and we've been in a position
where you don't have a pet or a tampon. Well,
she gave an excuse why she couldn't use a tampon,
but the fact that she took her whole dress off

(13:18):
to stuff some tissue in there. I'm like, that's not necessary.
You don't have to do that. To do that, why
she take her whole dress off?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
That right there? That was just that was that set
the scene that let us know, shit dress off? I said,
oh snap. She wanted her to know and look at
all this, Yes, look at this. Yeah, because yeah that

(13:47):
you lifted Like you don't take your whole dress off
to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, you don't.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
And she wanted a reaction. She wanted to see if
so if he was, you know, down just she just
wanted to see, Okay, let's see do I have me
one or not?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Look, she instantly pushed the limits of personal space in
that scene, like on purpose. And then when Sophie's character says,
you know, I you know, I think I'm gonna use
the restroom, She's like, oh, go ahead, like she had
che don't want to leave, you know. And then she's like, well,
actually I don't really have to pee. I just want
to take his accent. She's gonna stand there while the

(14:28):
girl goes to the bathroom like get them.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I know this is your house, but but I need
some privacy, ma'am. I don't care if I just saw
you stuff a paper towel.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, she didn't even know she was the woman of
the house at that point.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Oh that is true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
She didn't know that because the speech was after when
he introduced.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Bye goodbye girl. I don't know if you like that.
I don't know somebody at the damn gym. Yeah, I
don't know you.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
That is so gross, Like I feel like that is
a you crossed the line. I just met you. What
is happening?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
But you know, but now that we we we realize
like it's an open marriage. It's their swinger. Well they're
more open marriage thing. But you know, like that's that's
how you kind of see who is game. You know,
if you don't cringe at me taking off my dress,
you may not cringe at what I'm about to do.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Next, see it. I don't know. See the thing is,
I think if I was in someone else's space, I
don't know if I would cringe per se, but I'll
be like girl, you wow, you can leave.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
That's I wouldn't be like I'd be like girl okay.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Too, And she would immediately know Tambra's not She's not
the one she's not game for this. Yeah, like to
try somebody else much, That's what that is. She's like,
I gotta find somebody else.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, Instead Sophie's looking like what wow? Why you know?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
It's almost it's like a grooming process, like okay, let's
see and and Sophie passed the test. So yeah, but yeah,
the first the first episode was a little slow, but
it did. It set it up. It let us. It
introduced us basically to all the characters, the sheriff and
his wife, Margot and her husband, Sophie and her husband
who now I remember we just read a book and

(16:23):
was it from ghostwriter? Yeah? And you didn't like that boyfriend.
I did not like.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I didn't like. I didn't like grim either. I'm like,
go play traffic. Graham, Like, what was Rocky? You're treating
your wife like a child? Oh? I was not. Oh
he's controlling. He's like very opinionated about her. And yes,
so she messed up in the past. Yeah, does that
mean that she has to be treated like she is

(16:48):
in jail, like you're her jailer.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah. Yeah. And I got to the point where I
was just like when she was sleeping with Margot, I
was like, oh, well, no, I know it was so,
but I was like, yo, he's a I mean he was.
He didn't. I felt like he didn't make her feel loved.
He wanted her. Here's the other thing, like you wanted
her to fit in. Granted she fit in a little

(17:12):
too boch, but you know he was trying to encourage her. Hey,
maybe you need to fit in. So she was fitting in. Yeah,
but and she neglected her son, you know. Yeah, but
but he I did not like him, and he played
his role really well.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I don't think she neglected her son. I think when
you start making friends, you want to hang out with them.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yes, if you're a stay home mom, you spend a
lot of time with your child, and then to incorporate, oh,
I suddenly want to have somewhat of a life as well. Yes,
it does decrease. But neglect is a strong word, I think.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Okay, I want to say neglect, but I know there
were a few times where she said she was going
to come back, yeah, and she didn't at those times.
So okay, you're right. Neglect is just.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
To make promises, that's right.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Neglect is a hardware because neglect means you're not taking
care of their needs. But yeah, but but broken promises
and she did, you know, like the little time where
she said I'll be back and you didn't come back
until two in the morning. Yea, So those things she
she she she got lost, She got lost in this

(18:25):
society and in the effort of trying to become.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
One of them, she even so she comes to peer
pressure more than once in this show. And I don't
think in the book she didn't buy guns in the book.
In the book, she just used Margo's gun, and I
remember like it was a setup in the book, and
she used someone else's gun another night, and that got

(18:53):
her fingerprints on it, you know, when they were out
and about.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
She didn't go.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Buy a gun like in this show where she felt
pressure too, and then she went by a nun.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
What the heck?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
You okay, what happened? Like that's a line you shouldn't
cross if you don't feel comfortable with the guns, why
are you buying a gun? And then didn't buy the
correct safety container for it and anything. I'm like, that's
a wild And these people are gun toting people. Why
wouldn't they make sure you bought a safe or something,

(19:26):
just one little baby, little step so your husband doesn't
lose his mind and think that their kid may accidentally
have an accident.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Right, and like you said, and their mothers, well, Margot wasn't.
But still all the other I believe all the other.
Well Jill was, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
If I don't think, yeah, I don't think CALLI had
a baby, and I don't know or a child. And
the black woman who was barely on screen. They just
threw her in there just so they had someone black
on the cast.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, there's in Texas too. Yeah, that part because I
was like, is she the other boy's mom? But she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Uh, she had I think she had a half a
line to one line at each episode, just enough for
her to just be around.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
M talked about talk about Sophie's pole little flip flops. Ah,
like ah, I was like, oh, poor Sophie. Here she's
coming uncomfortable and her son and her little son dress
and flip her little uh cushy flip flops or whatever.
I was like, oh, gosh, poor thing.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Look at her looks special. Oh she's so special with
her flip flops. Okay, So like I want to miss it.
One more thing. It's a little bit side note to
like the character work, but it's also cringe to my
in my opinion, what the hell were they doing with
Margo's wig? What was that wig? What was it?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah? It was bad.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I'm like, why does she have that wig on her?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
It was bad? And I thought because I even looked
her up, I don't I don't know she has short hair.
But it was bad. It was really bad.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I was like, k tips in that hair and be
done with it.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Was k tips?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh like extensions, that's the kind of extension.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Oh yeah, but I was Yeah, but it was it
was really bad. I mean you could see like right
in here that it was. I was like, they needed
a black woman on set that does wigs.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Like that wig was absolute trash.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
I just that was Tyler Perry wiggish.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I was distracted by the wig at time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I was trying to look her up too, and like,
but I thought I had seen she might have been
on a podcast or something. She had shorter hair, so
I don't know, I don't know if she but anyway,
it was it was not a good wig. I didn't Yeah,
it was the black girl. They made her look nice
for the little scenes that she was and she did
look really nice. I say, like, you didn't like Margo's wig.

(22:02):
I was distracted by Sophie's eye movement and lips if
I felt like she was constantly doing this, you know,
her lips were constantly pursed and something with her eyes
and I was like, what the fuck is she doing?
Like why does it look like her eyes are like

(22:24):
like she's always surprised and her lips And I knew
she had nervous ticks, yeah with the fingernails, but the
pursing of the lips if you ever go back, I
saw it even in the trailer and I was like, oh,
there she goes again, like she was doing that when
she was trying to practice with the gun. Yeah, And
I'm like, your eyes, her eyes aren't that big to

(22:44):
be constantly looking like you're surprised. And I think someone
even mentioned in the show, ooh, look at her eyes
and I'm like, what her eyes aren't that fucking bit
what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think that's a Britney Snow issue. I think that's
just her a person, Like how she does things. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Very you know, like she would probably be one of
those actresses, you know how like some actors you go
and you're like, like, I'm a Denzel Washington fan, I'm
gonna watch all his she will not be on my list.
I'll watch this, I'll watch if they go to sebson two,
but she will not be an actress that I'll just
be like, oh, I love whatever she does because she
would drive me crazy with those eye movements. I get it,

(23:29):
kind of like Carrie Washington, you know, like Carrie Washington
has some some movements that are just even though I
love Carrie, I'll watch her, but you know, like Carrie
Washington has some some with the lips or the yeah,
but yeah, throw me crazy in this series with.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
That yeah, you know. Actually, I was surprised to see
I think her name is Katie Lowells in here because
she was also on Scandal. She was yeah, I was skinned, Jill. Jill,
Yeah Jill.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I don't know why I thought she was from twenty
four but no, she was from Scandal. Yep.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, I was like, oh, look at her, welcome back
to TV, ma'am. And I think she had other jobs,
but I probably didn't watch those shows or something.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I think she did really well as a pastor's wife.
You know, but I did, like we were mentioning before,
I really liked the aspect that even though these were
so called Christian Baptist chicks as women, they had another lifestyle,
just like we know most religious people do.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
So you know, speaking of religious and all of that,
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(25:01):
links are on the show notes. We'll be right back, Okay,
welcome back. I wanted to talk about the Christian women
and the Christianity of it all, and the you know,
the abortion topic. Yes, in Texas, in Texas, and you know,

(25:24):
they are very anti and our main character goes and
kids an abortion, and I just, I don't know, I
just thought it was so interesting, how like when they
thought the teenager got the abortion. We you know, it

(25:46):
was brought up that the teenager that Brad is it
Brad Brad's girlfriend might have got an abortion, abby.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, when they thought it was Abby and she brought
it up to a couple of people, they were like,
cush your mouth, how dare you say that? You know?
The mother flipped every like everyone's gonna lose their mind. Yeah,
and they're like, don't you dare say that? Like, what's
so much her mouth? You know, it's like that level.

(26:15):
And then to just see that and actually they changed
that in the book as well, from the book as well,
because in the book, Margot was not the one that
was pregnant. So, but Margot did who was pregnant in
the book. It was the teenager in the book. But
remember Margot and one of her friends took her to
get the abortion. Remember that's right, Yeah, and that's right.

(26:38):
Mm hmmm. So now instead, because she was sleeping with
Jill's son, he got her pregnant and you know, she
of course could not have that baby, which place back
to the first episode as to why she could not
use him because she had just had a procedure. Yeah,
he was like, yeah, and they do not. They just lost.

(27:01):
Everybody looked like they was about to spin their head
around like they were the extracists. You dad, oh my god,
and you know, the whole thing. So that part and
then like the whole thing where they had Sophie and
the husband go to church, like all of a sudden,
their church going people, and she up there crying in church.
I was like, what's going on in here?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Like I think they didn't they only go to church
because of wasn't of the the boss was about to announce, Yeah,
but yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, but she up there crime like she just found Jesus.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Girl, Like, you know, she touched her. It touched her.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I believing, not even a little bit. I'm sorry, I
didn't believe it for this character.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, you touched her a little bit. She ain't been
there in low time. The Holy Spirit got her.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I feel like she was crying with no tears.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
That's how her husband's like, what was that?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Like? Was he basically said, what was that performance at church?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
She was gonna go up there and say I'm giving
my life to Christ?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, I don't know. It was you know, like sometimes
antisy Man and not just that guys, the antics in
this this series alone, and it's so funny. So this
morning I wake up to a text message from my daughter.
Let me read it really quick. If you do you mind?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, go ahead, go for it.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Okay. So I woke up to a text to my
daughter and she said, did you ever read the book
The Hunting Wise, Because my baby, no, we read over here,
she said, it's all the rave at work. Since they
came out with a Netflix series. She said, a coworker recommended,
recommended it. So I'm watching it. I have one more

(28:51):
episode to go. It's way raunchier than I expected. But
the storyline is actually good, so she said. My coworker
said it had some explicit scenes, but oh my, I
had to clutch my purse. Had one more episode to go.
We know which one. She probably saw what she was clutching.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I clutched my pearls and I'm like, oh my god,
So y'all we are. We're gonna tell you because we're
all friends here. There was a scene with Jill and
her husband and there's a little pegging, and I'm sitting
there like, oh sh so look, here's a little side
notes to that. I found out that this show was

(29:32):
originally slided for stars. Yes, which makes a little bit
more sense as to why we got a pegging scene.
But that thing was outrageous.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Girl. I thought the scenes with Margo and Sophie were
you know, hot, Yeah, there was a steamy yeah, but
that one. But you know, I had mentioned to you
too that I thought her husband was possibly bisexual or
or curious or you know, or we're giving off vibes

(30:08):
with his deputy because there was a scene in the
And you know, maybe we'll find out if they do
a season two, because it because the.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Way this ended, they set it up for a season
two kind of like Paradise.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
It was just like you guys did. And now it's
really obvious, like some of these series, they're doing that
to see if it garners enough attention from viewers, like look,
see if the viewers are like, we want more, we
want more, there's possibly a season too, because how dare

(30:40):
you do that? How dare you?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
In that season they changed that in so much? They
changed that so draft.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It is so different, y'all. If you did not read
the book, that is not the way that ended.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
No, they said, but I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Matter, because we are mad at that that ending on
the in the book. We were like, what woman in
the right mind right would let her do that on
the water that far we're fighting on that boat oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I think they did an interesting thing, like you know,
even with you know, at the end, they had like
Sophie getting drunk. She's driving drunk, and I have to
admit I did not expect her in her tesla to
run that man downbacks damn is she.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Is she going to do it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, yeah, So you didn't kill two people drunk driving,
but one person you actually did that was on purpose,
you like literally hit the gas on purpose. He was
threatening you, and I guess he was a little scary,
but you know, I don't know. I just and then
she I also have a hard time believing this one

(32:04):
hundred pound girl soaking wet. This woman's one hundred pounds.
Was she like five to two or something? She dragged
this dude all the way through the woods off a cliff.
I don't believe it. Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I was. I say, I know,
adrenaline can can motivate you. But we were just talking
about this with your you know, with in our last
episode or something, we were talking about dead weight. That
is some heavy shit. You know, I had to carry

(32:40):
someone who was only like one hundred and fifteen pounds.
They were not dead, but you know, they couldn't that.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
They were dead. They were alive.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
But I had to help them and move them. I
had to literally lift in. That is not easy. And
I'm got one hundred and one hundred pounds soaking wet. Yeah,
I'm not a tiny woman. And it was hard. And
I work out, m hm, you know, I live weights,
I work. I consider myself pretty healthy. And that was hard,

(33:16):
dead freaking weight. And that guy he was no French fry.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
No, no, it's at least he's at least two hundred
pounds at least.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
And yeah, because we got to see him but naked,
which he's like, your brother has a big dick.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I was like, actually, I thought that said, oh they
found it. I'm gonna say the rest of that sentence.
I'm gonna stop there, I know, if you know.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
And they showed him more than once.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, I was like, okay, they gonna kill And he was.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Just flapping in the wind, opened the door, closed the door,
flap like three times.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, and here he dragged Sophie into the house.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
She's like like, you know, She's like.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh my god, Neka, mana dragging you into their place.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Right, put that up, put some clothes, sir shit, oh
my god, or something some drawls something that's just hilarious,
Like it's so funny, like it's.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Outrageous and funny, and it's just a train wreck.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
And I couldn't stop watching it. Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
That is absolutely it. It was like, what the hell
is going on here? But I'm I'm not gonna stop
watching No.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
But and the and the funny thing is is that
And I think that's the thing too with this adaptation,
Like if you read the book, you know who killed
you know who, but in this story you weren't sure.
And that part I did enjoy because it was like
the the Red Herrings because you know, we knew in

(34:58):
the book, but the way the movie he did it,
it was like, wow, it could have been Jill because
Jill was the last one on her call, loge who
could have killed Abby? Oh wait a minute, it could
have been X y Z you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
And they changed the killer. You know that, right, They
changed the killer. So in this show, Sophie killed Abby.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
In the book, Jill killed Abby.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Margot did do it.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
No in the book, Margot did not do it.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
No in the show.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
No, in the show, Dude, I say, Sophie, I met Marco,
I met Margot. Okay, okay, so Margot and the TV
and the TV show in the book and the book,
Jill did it right, Yeah exactly, And they changed it.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yes, And that's what I was saying, like you didn't
you knew in the book, but then you're just like
in a movie, who is it going to be? So
I did enjoy that that little mystery part of Yeah,
you guys, you may know who did it because you
read the book, but you don't. Got something else for
you over here.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, they changed enough things that kept it interesting. And
I think, like you said, the show that she knew
us better than the book.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah. There was a lot of silly choices or unbelievable
choices that the women made in the book, like like
who who would do that? Like you're gonna tell me
you're gonna allow a woman to take you out on
the in a boat in the middle of water and

(36:37):
you know what she did and you're just gonna hop
innocently and not be prepared. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
And if I remember from the book, she was drugged,
Sophie was drugged, and another drink from the same person
who you think exact you.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
That's exactly right, and we were just like, naw, she sorry,
you can't serve me anything unless you're forcing me to.
I'm not going to voluntarily take a drink from somebody
I know just killed somebody. How about you drink it. Yeah,
you're not getting me anywhere. We're fighting. That's just like

(37:19):
we were talking about. If somebody tries to kidnap you,
watch I watched your episode AnyWho. Somebody tries to kidnap you,
you can kill me right here, yeah, any anywhere. And
even if you try and drag me, I'm dropping like
a hot potato and I'm gonna be dead weight. You're

(37:40):
going to drag my ass.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I'm not helping you, no feeling. You're gonna have to
know you better be real fucking strong because I'm gonna
be like I'm older.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
You're not gonna shoot me here, say.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Fucking and run away because it's not worth the energy.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
They put me on a boat, yeah, knowing where we're going,
because you know you're familiar with this, you know, I'm like, yeah,
that's that was one of our gripes with the book,
like You You and the Words is Fred g Samford,
You big dummy, why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (38:19):
So?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, so I do enjoy I enjoyed this ending way better.
But again the creative license and to possibly do another season.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Now I don't remember, because they had another side story
in there with that youth pastor.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, it doesn't for him, No, that wasn't in the book. Yeah,
I think that was another Red Yeah, I think that
was definitely a Red heroing because that that did that
opened open episode two or it was like midway of
episode one, right, that's sure because with the deputy getting shot,

(38:58):
remember with the girl that was missing the Yeah, but yeah,
that was a little side story. So again that creative license.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, and I like that we kind of got like
a little bit of perspective from the police as well.
That added another little layer, you know. Yeah, they really
had like confirmation bias against Sophie. They were trying to
make it prove that it was her until they just
really couldn't anymore. Yeah, and then they said, oh wait,

(39:30):
we got a crazy Durange kidnapping pastor. It's him, he
did it.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Well, you know, at first they were trying to go
with the immigrants, you know, because of the election, because
the sheriff was up for reelection, and then Margo's husband
was going to run for governor maybe or something or governor, governor,
and then the sheriff's wife CALLI got jealous of Sophie

(39:57):
and decided, guess what, we're gonna pin it on Sophie
because now I know her background. She's violent, she's a killer.
So yeah, it was just craziness.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I liked it. I was there for the craziness. Yeah,
I was there for the craziness, you know, because some
shows it takes a while to watch this one.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, I benched it. I feel like I did. I
think I watched it in three sittings. I think I
did three different days.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I think I did too. It was episodes. Even though
they were an hour, they felt like thirty minutes. Yeah
they were. The pacing was really quick, so.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Okay, So I guess that means if there is a
season two, we're both gonna watch it. I feel like
that's what that means.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yes, it does. Yes, I'm here for the Shenanigans.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Mm hmm, me too.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
And I want to see I want to see yeah,
because somebody's got to pay mm hmm. Somebody's got to pay.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, and now that Marco's brother is missing, she calling
him if what the hell? Okay, can I just say,
if you are going to murder someone, why in the
hell are you going to answer their phone? What is
wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Again? So guess what? So now that we say that,
they're still doing stupid shit.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Mm hmmm h Who's I want to touch that phone?
That phone would have been over the cliff with him.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Girl stomped and then kicked into that water. Why would
you pick it up? Wild? Right?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Like so stupid. It's like almost like honestly, it almost
feels like Desperate Housewives times a thousand, you know what
I'm saying, Like, that's what it feels like.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
You are so right, you are so right. They are
bringing it back for us Texas style, big Yeah, And
you're right, you are so right, definitely, And I'm here.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
For it too. So this is like, you know, honestly, though,
this is happening, I think more and more. And it
used to be almost not a thing to hear people
say that the adaptation is better than the book. Yeah.
Now I think it's happening more now than it ever was.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah. Well, I think we talked about this that we
think some of these authors are writing their books more
for scripts. I don't know, if we go back and
listen to a couple, I mean, I bet if we
looked at a maybe ten books, maybe five to ten
books that we have read where we felt like, this

(42:33):
isn't a book, this is a script, it didn't really
feel like a good book to read. It felt more
of a script. So I'm feeling like a lot of
authors are trying to move into that arena instead of
they're like, hey, i'll start off here. Yeah, and granted,
I mean I just looked up The Hunting Wise on

(42:55):
good Reads. The rating is three point four to seven.
We read this book back in twenty twenty one. I'm
not even sure when it came let's see when it
came out.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I feel like we read the same year it came out.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I think, yeah, I think we were good for yep,
May May eighteen. Yeah, because we were notorious for reading,
you know, new releases at that time. So yeah, So
this book came out in twenty twenty one, and the
rating on it is three point four to seven. The
average rating there's fifty nine, six hundred and sixty eight

(43:27):
ratings and seven thousand three hundred and seventy seven reviews
from two thousand. So there you have it, three point
four to seven and reviews, and it got picked up
for a Netflix series. Yeah, so she's gonna they're probably well,
I don't know, her sales probably are going to go up.
I see that the book now is there's a giveaway

(43:48):
for it, so they're trying to garner probably more sales.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Oh yeah, definitely, because you know, a lot of people
do the thing that I hate doing. I've done it
before and I got screwed doing it. You know, they
the book after they've watched the adaptation. I always think
that turns out badly. I never I did that once
recently with murder Bot, and I hate it that I
did it, like it reminded me why I read it first,

(44:13):
because it's hard in reverse. But a lot of people
are doing that, So those sales are She's going to
have a spike of sales of that book right now,
right yep. And since you mentioned that rating, I do
want to say on Rotten Tomatoes, the average professional raider
is like eighty percent and the average regular watcher rating

(44:36):
is seventy two percent, So that's still pretty good.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah, that is that is That is pretty good and
that's all I care about. And like I said, I
really think it's going to be a season two because
for one, I mean, the spice level, the spice level
alone is going to probably get get you. But that cliffhanger, like,
somebody kill Abby. We need to know, we need justice
for Abby. Yeah, she and Miss Sophie has has crashed out.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
She has crashed out in a big way. And ass look,
I think she will till Marco last to her says
something to her, should be laid up with her again,
I know she.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Is so manipulative.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I don't know. Margot's also kind of crashing out as
well because her husband I was like, damn, like and
it's in the trailer. He just col coxs her like
slaps her. I was like damn, like, oh my god,
I know, and he's like, oh, you can tell me whatever.
I said the minute that kemet my husband, I said,
don't do it. Don't do a girl, don't say it,
don't say it, don't.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Do it, girl, don't do it. It ain't worth it.
It ain't worth it.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Look, they always say, tell me your darkest secrets, but
they don't want to know the darkness, like, let's not
get it twisted. They don't mean that shit because they
gonna get mad.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
So yeah, and they're, like you said, there's so many
secrets that are about to unfold, like, yeah, I think
it is going to be a season two when we
don't know, but I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Up that wig budget, Netflix, up that wig budget.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Oh my god, or get a do a different.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Stylist, man, Yeah, something, do something because.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
It felt like it was lifting up in here. It
was poofy. And I don't know or like you said,
but like I said, I think I tried looking her
up to see if she could have got some extensions
and I don't know why it looked like And who's
to say. Maybe she's got another role, who knows. But yeah,
new wig.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
New Wig. All right, I guess that's it. Yeah, show
trust your book and we'll watch the second season.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah, that's very rare for us. We always usually liked
the book.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, I'll let us know what you think. Did you
watch The Hunting Wives? If not, will you watch it?
Even after we've told everything to you, there's a lot
we didn't even talk about. Still there's a lot going on, y'all.
So yeah, we just hit the high points, you know,
so you'll still enjoy it even if you listen today.
So let us know if you have watched it, what

(47:11):
you thought. If you haven't watched it, will you watch it?
Will you read the book? Share all the things. We
appreciate you for doing that, and we'll catch you in
the next one. All right, take care of yourselves, my guys.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
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