Canucks Playoff Hunt

The Canucks are in the playoff hunt.
OG Elias Pettersson has looked good of late.
Have the Canucks found their identity and playing style?
The youth movement on the Blueline.


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And I quote, I'll be there in a minute, give
me a second.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Time is relative, folks, Time is relative.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
So hey, cheers to everybody in the chat. Is there
a division rival? I don't care how many get, how
many wins they get.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Screw them.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
That wasn't the take I was expecting to hear.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I want to gush over watching live, Chris Handa. I
think that we completely underestimate the skill it takes to
play defense. One highlight or several highlights does not have
called their trophy. Mate. I'm stepping in here.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm going to be the crotchy old man here. They
need to learn patience. They need to understand the attention
everything in the in the drama. How Derek look at this?
How mcamers not getting the penal leagues you got? You
guys need to calm down with this. Okay, you guys
need to calm down with it. And there's there's no

(01:20):
calm when there's a when you're in the playoff one, right.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Chris, there's no com with the Canucks.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Ever, that is very true. Even when pas Sooner scores
twenty goals and Brockbester scores twenty goals, it's all about
what their nut contract is going to be in the
drama surrounding that.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Right, mm hmmm, or if talk it's coming back, But.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
We'll get into that. Yeah, we'll dive into that a
little bit later. How are you doing, Chris?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I mean, it's been a whirlwind of a week. I
am currently in the Yukon. I'm in white Horse.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Of all places, are you part enough north where they
put the toe in the drink?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I mean, I haven't come across that yet, but I'm
happy to report that I found not one, but two
craft beer centric like hip places in Whitehorse for me
to check out while I'm here during this week.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
So that's here's that And you're drinking a Calvary Bear
up there.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, And I was actually just saying this to you
off the air. The fact that I can find like
random breweries all across Western Canada available in liquor stores
here is blowing my mind.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh, I'm not surprised. There's enough transient like camp workers
that go up work like ten on four, ten on
five off type deal that well, they'll they'll demand it.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Some sales team deserves the rays.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
All right. So yeah, like I said, the Canucks are
in a playoff Hunts. They are battling the Flames, the Utahs,
and the Blues for the last wild card spot in
the West, basically fighting over who will most likely faced
the Winnipeg Jets in the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's kind of crazy that most of the Western and
Eastern conferences have like four or five team log jams.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Layoffs. I mean, that's that's what Beatman wanted, right ye more, Yeah,
before we get before we dive into that, does that
mean let's let's let's let's ask the big elephant room
question about that playing games, playing series. Does that do

(03:51):
you want that with with seeing how close things are?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, as far as there's a general like keeping
things competitive sort of thing, I'm for it. In that regard,
I guess it really comes down to like the execution
of how how well you do that. So if they're
if they're able to nail the execution, I think it
would be a good thing overall. But obviously, especially in

(04:19):
the conservative traditionalist sport that is hockey, there's going to
be a decent amount of people that are going to
be vocally against that.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, you're talking to them. I'll be the crossy
old man here, I'll be the concern not want to change.
It's already four fucking rounds. It's like twenty eight games.
Like if you go seven games, that's a lot, that's
more than that's more than a quarter of the of

(04:50):
the eighty two game season. Like it's just because other teams.
Just because the NBA does it doesn't mean that we
need it. Just because the MLB does it doesn't mean
we need it.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I just want to get a quick correction here. Are
you talking about a one game playing are you talking
about an additional series and in vans of the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well it, and I would I would hate. I would
hate to see another season where say the eighth team
is like five point five six points up on the
ninth team and then they lose a one game playoff
when the rest of the regular rest of the playoffs

(05:34):
is that seven game is seven game series. I like
that's and even if it's a three, even if it's
a three best of three, then even then, I just
it's a four. We're already doing four rounds in probably
the toughest most it the most grueling playoff in sports, Okay,

(05:55):
and already is the most really playoff in sports. And
we're no. Let's just what makes what makes the first
round so awesome is that if you have eight series
of hockey and they're all like all going on at

(06:16):
the same time.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Okay, so here here's a question to your question. Then
instead of a play in, what about the Elliott Friedman
thought of expanded playoffs?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's already four fucking rounds of playoffs eighty two games
and then four rounds of playoffs is enough? We do
not need more. I'd argue that we need less games.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Great, great thought about this before we decide to go live.
But I'm trying to get clarity here, Okay, So I'm
trying to figure this out, like, is there a way
where we can have still four rounds but additional teams?
Am I too many beers deep already?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I don't think by like that. That just screws up
having buys now all that? No, No, the okay, the
only the only way I'll agree to an expanded playoffs
they at like would be if if you shorten the
regular season, which they will never do.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
How many games do you have to do that? Would
it be like seventy six instead eighty two?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Then I I don't know. I haven't thought. I haven't
thought that's that deep into it.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Butcause the reason why I am expanded playoffs is because
when they decided to do a sixteen team playoff, there
was thirty teams in the league.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Already there's actually less than thirty teams. Okay, with probably
point still still still does it just because but now.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
And they're still talking expansion, like there's got to be
a way where they can expand the amount of teams
that qualify for the playoffs to accommodate for the fact
that the league is that much bigger now.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's like, how how many teams are?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Really an off season conversation as far as the.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
How many teams actually make the playoffs? How many teams
are in the NFL and how many teams actually make
the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, I think if we were going to do an
NFL sort of mimicry, like you'd have to have similar
divisions and like they do where it's.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Like again games, yeah, they're one off games and all that.
I just what makes the NHL playoffs so damn good
is it's the most early playoff in sports.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Because for a series of best of seven, Yes, I agree.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Like it and giving and I don't know if giving
a like a full what you have to No, you'd
have to do like make them make the round shorter, Yeah,
the first round shorter if you have buys.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah. Ultimately, when it comes down to it, I'm okay
with tinkering to try and change it, to adapt, but
you need to find a way that works best for
the most people possible because obviously you're not gonna make
everyone happy.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
So fit what's not broken.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, Like, I'm okay with that, But at the same time,
you also have to adapt with the times. It can't
be the same thing forever and ever, even though the
league is growing, so like, there's got to be a
balance point somewhere. But like I said, this is clearly
not the conversation to go fully in depth on that.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
We will have. Yeah, we will definitely get into on
that in the offseason because I have I have thoughts.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
July early August conversation Sean.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, right, But how do you feel about the Canucks
chances in this playoff race? Chris?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I mean they're in a decent spot, like, given everything
that the franchise has gone through this season, whether it's
PD struggles, whether it's the Miller drama that came in,
I guess collaboration with those PD struggles. Like considering everything

(10:34):
in a hole, I think the Cannucks have done half
decent as far as maintaining a playoff sort of position
at this point in the season. And like when you
look at the like remaining schedule compared to the other
teams that we're competing against, I'm feeling decently okay about

(10:55):
the Canucks right now.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, I think a bit a bit. How they go,
how they how there this road trip goes, will basically
sink or swim this where they are, where they sit
in this in this playoff hunt. Because it's it's an
Eastern it's an Eastern road trip. You don't have many
easy games. So and then you've got teams playing in

(11:21):
the in the like they're playing against like tomorrow against
Saint Louis huge if you can, if they can, they
can get two points out of that, and ideally without
giving Saint Louis one, that puts them and it puts
them in a really good, really good spot to start
that to start that road trip. Because you've got the

(11:45):
Blues on Thursday, You've got a afternoon mattin Ae versus
the Rangers, which will be quite something to watch with
the as you were talking about, the P. D. Miller situation.
And then they've got Monday versus the Devils, Wednesday, next

(12:06):
Wednesday versus the Islanders, the Jackets, and then the Jets
again to end the end end the month of March.
And that's that's the road trip. Like, that's a six
game road trip. And then, like the Blues, game is
not must win, but essentially must win.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Not in the sense of making breaking, it's more in
the sense that you don't want to give a team
you're competing, and that is mostly against any chance.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, and then you've got the Rangers who are struggling,
the Devils who are struggling, but both good, both can
be good, both can play really well. Islanders are gonna
be a tough blue Jackets have surprised everyone this year.
And then the Jets again. So who are not gonna walk?

(13:01):
Who're going to come in looking for revenge after that
six to win last night by the Canucks. Yeah, I
think it's they have to get They don't have to,
but at least four wins on this six game road
trip would go a long way into helping the Canucks

(13:24):
in this playoff one because it's not going to slow
slidify anything if with four wins, but four would go
a long way, especially if they can make one of
those wins against Saint Louis tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Night, because I know Calgary has a pretty daunting remainding
of their schedule, and I think I overheard Elliott on
one of the most recent thirty two thoughts talking about
that Saint Louis is basically in control of their own
destiny because they have a relatively easy schedule, and I
want to say I've heard kind of similar for Utah.
So it really kind of seems like a three headed

(13:57):
race as far as winnable game between Vancouver, Utah, and
Saint Louis. So it's gonna be interesting to see how
it plays out.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, Tomorrow the Flames are in New Jersey, and then
Utah is hosting Buffalo, and yeah, Vancouver Saint Louis so,
and then on Saturday, let's see here, Saint Louis is

(14:29):
at home versus Chicago, the Flames are on Long Island,
and Utah is hosting Tampa Bay. So I'm not gonna
go through all because that would just be a little
bit tedious, But yeah, there's just because you've got more
quote unquote winnable games doesn't mean anything. Honestly, I'm sure

(14:50):
Winnipeg thought last night was a winnable game, right, fair point,
fair point. So I think basically every team has the
the at this point, it's so close. Every team has
their own has the if they if they win more,

(15:11):
if they win enough games, they're gonna they're gonna get in. Right.
So it's yeah, the players are in it, are in tough.
They're struggling to score more than I think all of
the other three teams. But they've got Dustin Wolf. I
would say he's probably we got Bennington and Saint Louis

(15:31):
maybe him, and they like just the way Dustin Wolf
has played this year. He's really kept the Flames in
this race. So whether or not he can continue to
do that will be uh lost, something to watch there.
So one of the major things that needs to needs

(15:53):
to continue for the Canucks to make the make the
playoffs is the LEAs Petterson needs to continue the way
he's played over the last eight games. He's a point
per game player. Over the last eight games, He's been
a little He's shown more assertiveness he's shown more. He's

(16:16):
been more relaxed, and you're seeing the game. You're seeing
more of the player that we've we've saw in previous years.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now successful PD is a PD who is playing on
instinct and not overthinking the game. Because he's a cerebral player,
he can easily overthink things just like I can. I
can I can get in my own way by overthinking
ship PD is the exact same way. If you go

(16:49):
off of instinct, especially in PD's case, if he plays
off instinct, he's going to be the player that we
all want him to be. And like you said, he's
shown that in the past, like a half dozen or
so games.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, he's Last night the line was Hogelander, Besser
and uh and Pete with Garland out. It looked good.
Hogelanders looked really good. He's shown that tenacity that if
you can play with that tenacics to consistently get in

(17:23):
on the fore check, that will be huge.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
But seven props saying that that HOGI is being one
of the better forwards in the past, like twenty games
or so.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
He has been. Yeah, quietly he has been one of
the better, better intensity and sort of tenacious talk forwards, Yeah,
talking players, Yeah, and then talking did make some comments
about Pete leading in into last night's game, talking about
how Pete needs to reprogram his mind, which is an

(17:56):
interesting sort of just verb on on with reprogramming. I
think it's more of about an evolution of PD's game, because,
as you said, PD can be a bit of an overthinker.
He needs to play on an instinctive places. We need
to play more assertively on his toes as opposed to
he like talk and talked about he likes to regroup

(18:20):
and and try and come at them, come at the
opposition a different way. But sometimes you just need to
force the issue. And you're starting to see that from
p D. And I think it's, yeah, it's a it's
an evolution. It's you're never gonna get that that sided
p D out of him, But it's an evolution to

(18:41):
finding when it's time to regroup and when it's time
to be assertive.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, and when you're closely the balance as you can
with that.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
When we're playing more relaxed and more instinctial with like
he has been over the past time, just over a
dozen games, a half dozen games, you're that will come
more naturally and it will see more results as we've
seen over the past few games here. So I think that's. Yeah,
that's a really good good sign for the Canucks because

(19:14):
if the Canucks are getting in the playoffs, it's on
the back of Pede. As good as Quinn Hughes has been,
he's kept them in the playoff hunt. Quinn Hughes has
kept them in the playoff hunt this year. They need
p d going to get them over that hup.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Like, and I'm not trying to like maybe unfairly give
credit to one player over another, but it's like Quinn
on threw the team on his back and got them
eighty percent of the way there. They need PD to
get that last twenty to get in.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, exactly. So Yeah, seeing PD play play the way
he has is fantastic. Seeing how he's seeing how fields
you can tell he's more relaxed and feeling less with
the lead anivil on his shoulders type feel. So that's

(20:10):
been really good. And then with that the Canucks have
I think the Canucks has sort of found what the
the identity of this of this team is. What may
not be the identity next year, It may not be
the identity two three years from now. But for this
specific team, in this this season, the identity is bat

(20:31):
has gone back to low event hockey. Don't expect the
Canucks to uh to outshoot teams.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Also a damn long while to figure it out too.
Oh they well, I.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Think, but yeah, let's let's let's we can get into
that a little bit. I think a lot of it
was they just but there is a u a fissure
in the in the locker room. I didn't believe it
for the longest time. But the way the way this
team seems to be coming together and playing with cohesion

(21:06):
now basically says and also some of the the.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't want to call them leagues, but just the
way some of the players have talked to the press
since the Miller trade, it definitely makes you think that, Like,
do I want to go as far as saying Miller
was a cancer in the in the locker room? Maybe,
but it it definitely was playing a factor in how
why they were in a funk for the at least

(21:34):
two things.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
One of the Paudi and Miller had to go at.
Like I said, I didn't, I didn't think so I
was defiantly again like but when you when you look
at how how this team is. It wasn't a quick
sweats either, but well once they they they they gelled
after the trade. I think the other thing is that

(21:57):
the players that they brought in and hopefully he can
become back after getting a looks like going through some
concussion issues again.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Unfortunately, given as history, I'm not too confident that we'll
see much of him until next season. But I'm hoping
I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I don't like, concussions are something that I don't think
like the app the average fan, the average media member,
the average hockey person who doesn't have any medical or
even like even if you have medical, they're so weird
at times because it can be so so individual.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
There's not every there's not a thing that like tells you,
okay if a plus beek will see, Like, it's not
that simple, like it, there's individual context that each player
has with their own concussion history.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
But based on the fact that he has, every concussion
is different to every hit to the head is different.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
True, and maybe it's unfair, but the fact that he
missed like what of last season in New York due
to concussion related issues, like it definitely makes me antsy.
As far as how much we're gonna see.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I think you can question it. But so it's just
one of those things. I just especially with the Canucks,
the way the Canucks talk about medical and injury, like,
we're not gonna know. Yeah, unless unless they know for
sure he's out for the rest of the season, We're
not gonna know even then, who knows, right, So it's

(23:31):
but yeah, every concussion is different. It's not even every
player and person is different when they get it, which
is also true, but every concussion is different. So the way,
the one thing that makes me like a little bit hopeless,
the way he went off the ice. I think he
was more frustrated than anything else. He knew he had

(23:53):
to go off because he knew he needed to take
care of his head, and he was more frustrated than
anything else. So I don't but we also know. So
I also know that, like the day after, it could
be more of a tell than anything else. So he
just needs to take the time off that he needs
and go from there. But yeah, the fadel O'Connor, Marcus Patterson, Mancini,

(24:20):
and even Dpead bringing him up, they've injected a bit
of a different energy into this team, which has also helped,
I think in terms of figuring out what this team
is and their their identity and how they play the game.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
As far as the DECORPS has been pretty impressive from
like how it started this season to where they're at now. Unfortunately,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Think the decor is as bad as people made it
out to be. The problem was that they were defending
for too long. They'd be fine, they'd be fine, they'd
be fine, and then just they would get tired, and
then that's when the mistakes would happen, and that's when
the goals would happen.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
And I'll let the rest of the podcast group kind
of get more into like the technical details of it all,
but I kind of view, I guess the game more
at like a surface eye test level, and for me,
it definitely just it felt like the d just didn't
gel this season in comparison to other seasons, and just

(25:23):
with with it seems like how much more proficient the
decor has been since acquiring Peterson and Mancini, Like I
just feel like it it whatever, this new mix changed
from the old mix, appears to be working better and
I'm just grateful.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And defense is a lot more of a team game
than than we I think then we really really talk
if when you when you look at yeah, when when
you when you look at how the team has changed.
They they tried at the beginning of the season, they
were trying to open things up a little bit and

(26:03):
be a little more offensive, which they gave up a
lot of They gave up on men opportunities because of that,
players were forcing things a bit too much. So they've
dialed that back, which is I think is a smart
move for this. And then bringing in Marcus Petterson I
think helped also just sort of steady things out, especially

(26:26):
on the second pair. Whatever that second pair looks like,
whether it's whether Quinn it's Hughes and Myers on one
pair and Peterson and Ronic, or if it's Ronic and
he was on the first pair and Peterson and Myers
on the on the second pair, whatever that that mix is,
because we've seen that happen depending on who's been healthy.

(26:47):
Is it really feels like he's he's calm things down
in a way. I think that I know everyone talks
about how that like. And I was a big fan
of the door off and his his Gregaria attitude and
and everything. But I think that the defenseman that the
Canucks missed the most from last year was last season

(27:07):
was Ian Cole. He had the same sort of calming
influence on that on that blue line and on the defense.
Says that the team defense as a as a whole.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, it's just like that defensive balance, like that, that
constant blood pressure that doesn't value or spike.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, it's the predictability. And I think that was a
big part of why where why the Canucks were struggling
to begin the season, was that they did, especially defensively,
they just didn't trust each other to know where they
were going to be on the ice. So and I
think we're starting to see that come back because that

(27:45):
was one of the biggest the biggest reasons why the
Canucks were so successful last year was the predictability and
the players knowing and trusting where their teammates were going
to be on the ice.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I mean hole in the Oiler series, but that's
a whole other topic.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I mean that was he was just everything went wrong
for eating Cole in that in that series.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
You know, that's more just me poking fun than actually
having a criticism.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
And then the other thing that the Canucks need to
Like against Chicago, it looked really good against Winnipeg. Against
winnipegot looked really good. Was the fore check, and that's
that's going to be Outside of p being PD, the
Canucks four check being tenacious and smart is going to
be the key to the Canucks' success going going forwards

(28:36):
this season and even going into the next any future season,
especially under Rick Talcket.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, it's a tacket type system. Talcket was known as
an aggressive four checker, and his team is going to
be an aggressive four.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Tech and that's and that's what he wants from what
he's been trying to drill into players like Lander and
the breast for that a little bit as well, because
you've got especially with when let's look at the line
from last night, p D Bes and hog Lender, Hope Lenders.
That's tenacious f one four checker. Then you've got the

(29:12):
other two coming in after, right, and they're the more skill.
They've got a little bit more skill. Hope Learner's got
some skill, but they've got a little bit more skill
and the ability to put the puck in the nets. More.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Comparison for our generation is hog Is Burrows and the
other two players are the seams.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean, if you want to if you want to
put the l it, but yeah, let's I think I
want to see that. I want to see that lot
that line get a get get a run here, because
that they looked fantastic against the Jets, and and that
you have hope. You've got the fur Checker and Hogelander.

(29:54):
You've got pd Investor who both can shoot and both
can pass, and just when he's on his game, he's
such a tenacious player and he can get under the
skin of of other the other team and it's fantastic.
You they that's the type of plat the type of
game you need from Homelander. And if he can do that,

(30:17):
then you might you might have a built in I
wouldn't say true top six winger, but one of those
borderline guys that you need every team needs to step
up and be like the third piece on the line.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, maybe he Burrows isn't a great comparison, but maybe
more like a a Yanni Canson at the top of
Yanni Canson's game.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, I was gonna say, I'm more like a Yanick Canson. Yeah,
that's really what you want from a Homelander. So yeah,
I think it's if you look at those ones, if
you look at the Cannucks, the way the Connucks blue
line and defensive game has has gelled. If they can
have that that assertive, tenacious but smart for check, if

(31:05):
the Canucks make the playoffs, you like, I know last
night it's they won six to two, We're feeling good.
But in a seven game series, well, let's see, the
Canucks lost five to one in January to the Jets.
They won six to two last night, and they play
them at the end of March. If the Canucks are
able to get in the playoffs, do you think they
match up well against the Jets.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Well, we also have to bring in the context of
this current iteration post trade deadline of the Canucks. Yeah,
if the current Canuck iteration can repeat what they did
last night, this table is made of would knock on wood.
I feel like the Canucks have a decent chance at

(31:48):
giving a likely first round matchup with the Jets a
hell of a run.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yep. It like the games will not be as high
scoring as that as those last two. I think they'll
be get a little bit all all the entire series. No,
but if the Canuts can keep it close. They have
a chance. They've got p D, they've got Besser, they've
got as game breakers Quinn Hughes game breaker I think

(32:17):
a lot. Then, well, what will another another sort of
wild card in that? All that would be the health
of thatcher Demco, Because as good as linkel it is,
we know that Demko has got another level when he's healthy.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
When and I'm not sure we're going to see that
this season, I don't know. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't know. Like we we heard, I guess. Kevin
Woodley was on Winnipeg Sports Talk today saying that we
might see Demko play a game in on this road trip,
So we don't know. We have no idea what to
expect with Demo. Again, that's why it's a wild card
and we.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Might see that, but who knows how long that might last?

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Chris, Chris, stop stop being Duben Bloom.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
No, I'm being real.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
This is pragmatic that all I'm saying is like, if,
like I have I have said, if I don't need
the qualifier of I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I'm just saying I don't know how long I have
hoped that we'll see him. I just don't know how
durable he is when he's back.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
I think that last one was just pure unlucky bullshit
more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
And you very well might be right. All I'm trying
to say is with this season.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I just hate it. We hear so much doom and
gloom around this fucking team from the media and the
fans and all this shit. I'm so done with it.
I agree.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I agree this market is unnecessarily negative, and we do
our best accounteract that. But at the same time, I'm
not going to be unrealistically later. Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Holding my breath either. That's why I said if and
that he's a wild card.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, and so I'm ninety five percent in agreement with you.
I'm just saying we don't know how long it might
last if Slash when he comes back.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, kind of why I said if and wild card.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
All Right, we're dancing circles around the same copy.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, what the Also with that in mind, we talked
about this a little bit, the youthful injection that the
conducts have gotten on the blue line deepds look fantastic.
Oh can I just put that hit that he laid
on Nasim Kadri on repeat like that was.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Just also the fact that the Canucks traded away Carson
and Susie because of how much confidence they have in DPD, yep.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
And and the other. The other thing with DPA. They
put him on the right side either and he hasn't
looked bad. That's what like. You look you look at that.
You got Manstini who's looked solid. He hasn't. I don't
think he's looked as good as DPD, but he still
looked good and he still looks slallid. He's a good

(35:32):
sort of bottom pair option on the right side for
the Canucks.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Let's be back nine months back to youngsters. You and
I were both impressed by him and Penticton. Would either
of us have predicted this? Probably not.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I want I wanted them to slow play him and
let him marinate it because this is his first professional
season in North America. He played, he played some some
games then in Sweden, which is a different, different style
of game. But man, he's just I feel like he's
just one of those guys who just had he's got.
He's big, like he's he's already pretty physically mature for

(36:11):
how old he is and he plays calm, like I
don't want like you you you put the Burrows label
on the line talk earlier. But the guy that I
keep seeing out of DPD is Matizola, like just like calm,

(36:35):
not afraid to be physical, but doesn't chase the hits.
Because that's the biggest thing about DPD. His how he's,
how he's been, uh since he's been called up here,
is that yeah, he's he's had some big hits, but
he's not He doesn't chase them. He knows that he
has to wait. He has to they have to cut.

(36:58):
The hits have to come to him. He has to
play good solid defense and hits will come to him
and they are. And it's just that's like I I like,
you know, I've mentioned our intro a few times already
this time, but like Devin saying, you want sagusshabout watching

(37:19):
Chris Ta Chris Tana play live, like for where DPD
is at in his career, he stepped up huge and
he's as someone who grew up playing defense and just
think and thinks that defense gets overshadowed and and over overshadowed.

(37:40):
Good defense gets overshadowed, and mistakes on the blue line
get over over analyzed just the way he plays. It's
just it gives me a lot of hope for what
this blue line could look like going forwards, because they're
gonna on that like next year, like Derek Ford, where
as a as a uf A next after this season,

(38:04):
I don't know if they're bringing they they'll bring him
back because you could have a left side of Hughes,
Marcus Patterson and DPD. The what's gonna be interesting is
we get into You've got Mancini, You've got Tyler Myers
and Ronic locked up as well, but you also have
Tom Wilander coming to.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, let's be honest, it's gonna be a Mancini versus
Villander as far as who fills that sixth spot.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Most likely and how they and how they pair players
up is going to be interesting too because you've got
those three young guys. Yeah, like you've got DPD. Yeah,
Like you've got those two who have have some NHL
experience Wilander. Depending on how Boston Boston College, sure, Boston

(39:00):
University's on, Yeah, I think it's be you. But depending
on how far they go in the in the n
C Double A Playoffs, I'm not, and where the Canucks
are in their in their in their playoff rates. I'm
not sure how much ice time Villainder will get with

(39:23):
the Canucks this year. But having those three, plus you
throw in Quinn Hughes, You've got Ronic locked up long term.
You've got Marcus Patterson locked up long term, like or
medium term. You've got a good I think you've got
a good mix of veterans and youth to to build

(39:45):
that blue line around for at least the next four
or five years.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I was gonna say years to come. Like we're not
talking like one or two, We're talking like three to five.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah. Yeah, So it's gonna be. But you even if
you want to marinate Wilander too and have him play
maybe like a half season and in Abbitsford I.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Mean to a certain degree that's what happened with DP
this season.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, but you and then have him step up a
little bit later and maybe you still bring it bring
in a one more veteran, because I think even with
even with those like, you're still gonna want a veteran
sort of number, a veteran seven eight defenseman who can
of of the ilk of a Derek forward.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
So are you ultimately saying bye bye Juleston.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
At this point. Yeah, what Like he's been a serviceable
six seven eighth defenseman for the Canucks. But with these
kids coming up, let alone Carlo kadrat Seb, he's been Look,
he's looked good down in Abbitsford because when going back
to when we went to the Young Stars and Pentechton,

(41:01):
it was dp D and kadratsav as a pair that
both really impressed me. So you throw that in there,
then you've got sore Mineo coming out of junior. I
don't know if it's next this upcoming season or the
season after.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
I want to say this upcoming one.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, but even then you've got you've got those bringing
those two like it's they've got pieces that can I
I haven't been this positive about the Canucks blue line
and its future in a long time. Like we we
we talked, we talked ourselves into the into the Keto

(41:41):
herossays and the Christians, Christian Malanin's and the was it
last year the Canucks had Why am I drawing a
blank on his name? Mcgardon, Yeah, mcward try. They kept
trying trying him at on on Quinn Hughes's on Quinn

(42:03):
Hughes's pair through all the three season hope, hoping that
he would be the the solution we we talked ourselves into.
Even as much as I like I like both these
guys Troy Stetcher and and and uh Ben Hutton who
just didn't quite turn out to be the players that

(42:23):
we were hoping. Still guest serviceable six seven defenseman on
on top teams, but still not He's a Cup winner now, yeah,
he was a six seven defenseman on on on Vegas
for that. Like it's it's not not trying to knock
him too much, I know. Yeah, Like I feel like

(42:47):
the Anders got top four potential. We're now seeing what
DP can be like even if he is at most
of five four or five guy that's still serviceable for
the Canucks. And they've got the top end with Hughes
ronic and Marcus Patterson right now as well. So and
then Tyler Myers who do much behind Tyler Myers, who

(43:10):
just I don't think people appreciate him as much. He again,
he's just someone who just sometimes he's just too damn
big for his own good and gets called for penalties because.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Of chaos draft will chaos draft. He can't help the
fact that he's a diraft man.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
But yeah, so I'm super excited where the Canucks are is.
The Canucks blue line is set right now as well
as the future of it. So we'll see what happens,
not even just this year, but going into next year,
in the year after. Because he said you've got minno
and Contrat said, who don't have any NHL games? But

(43:48):
also both looked pretty solid. So do you think these.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Guys are going to be closer to NHL guys and
less more like a Gilliam breeze Law type.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
It's up still up for debate. I think well, I
would say the draft ups got has a definitely a
bit more of an up on the upside. He's got
his His lateral skating was what really impressed me when
we watched him live in Penticton. Yeah, I was up
against a bunch of younger players, but you could tell

(44:24):
that his lateral skating was solid. And he's looked really
good in his first pro season with Abasurd this year too,
because he's he's a he's a rookie in the AHL
and he's putting up a decent amount of points for
a defenseman. In that situation because he's he's only like,
he's only twenty twenty years old, So I may have

(44:47):
turned twenty one now, but yeah, first year pro and
you're putting up see you here, sorry about this, folks.
He's got twenty four points in fifty three games as

(45:07):
a yeah, turn he just he's just turned uh twenty
one in February. So that's I just like the way
he skates, and I think that he's gonna be I
don't know if he'll ever break through on this team

(45:29):
with the with the with the way the Canucks have
been are as we talked about, you've got, especially on
the left side, you've got because he's a left shot guy,
You've got DPD, you've got uh Marcus Patterson, and in
you've got Ques. It's gonna be tough to break in there.
And then the right side is just almost as jam

(45:50):
pack now, especially once you throw Vlander, because they were
switching DPD and kazrat sev on sides in Pentecton trying
to see they were able to do that.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
So but like again, he's only twenty one. Like a
lot of defensemen don't make.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Marinate the marinate in the A until they're like, yeah,
like you were just about to say twenty four to
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Twenty three, twenty four, maybe even twenty five as when
you see them actually pop up and start doing that.
So and even again, progress isn't always linear, so there
could be a step back from DPD, but we'll see.
But having those options, I think is what makes the
makes me feel a little bit more comfortable where the

(46:36):
Caducks are and positive where the Canucks are on the
blue line, not only this season but going forwards.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
So and I guess the point that I want to
kind of touch on with that though, is the success
that they've gotten with the defense group post trade deadline
now ultimately came at the forward depth. The cost of
the forward depth like having to give away a guy
of Miller's uh skill level, Like that's a sizeable gap

(47:05):
in their forwards. Because remember the conversations we were having
going into this season about how happy we're with like
forward depth for the Canucks there's basically like twelve guys
that you can interchange it into whatever pairing and whatever
line you want. And now looking at at that forward group,
they need like two guys to be maybe not like

(47:29):
a cup contender, but a powerhouse playoff team.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
What they need is they need either heel to step
up and be a true number two center or they
need to go out and find one. Yeah, that is
the that's the uh, that's the big that's the biggest
thing the Canucks needs to find.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
What do you give up to get something like that?
I know that's like, are you giving a future firsts?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Most likely you're most likely giving up draft capital if
you're gonna go to trade route.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Especially if you don't want to give him a bill
Ander or you know those.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, that's that's the other part is the Caramakin needs
to step up and be a top six, top six
player for the Canucks because if they can have and
and they need to make ay, they need to make
a decision on Brockbester. I think they should find a way.
They need to find a way to keep them because
I think that losing him could be similar to losing

(48:33):
March from Tanev was.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
The rumored last package eight eight five.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
That's the thing I thought. I think Bestor wants that
that as long term deal as possible. But I know,
I to be honest, I haven't been paying a lot
of attention to all that because I find it just.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I totally get that yet.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah, so I just finded to know because it's like
until until it happens, and they're even with the best reporters,
they can get it wrong. And even with the best reporters,
they can miss a detail, right, Yeah, And so it's yeah,
I that that's the thing is like if if they

(49:20):
if they lose best or they need to replace him
as well as get another get a true number two center.
The thing with Heetel is that when he's on his
his ability to drive through the neutral zone and get
into the offensive zone, which is something that Cannet need, yeah,
is really good, but I don't, but he's struck his

(49:44):
his ability to create offense consistently once in the offensive
zone is where things fall off. If you could have
if you could have a third line of Garland, Heetel
and Joshua and then you can build another second line
as well as that TD, Hoglander and Besser first line,

(50:08):
then you're like you got what Debrusk I mean, debros
Lecaramaki and then then a true number two center is
what I think is an ideal world, what what you
would be looking at, And I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
With the cap going up as significant as it is
over the next two or three years, can you afford
to probably give Besser maybe like it in a way
to get that deal across the line, Like can you
give him a nine by five or a eight and
a half by six or something like that to get
across the finish line, Like, I think there's room to

(50:44):
take a gamble there, So that way, you're not trying
to get a prop six winger and a second line center.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, because as much as we like pas Suitor and
his versatility, ability of place, center's ability to play wing,
you've got a built in quote unquote third line already.
You've got blueger as your fourth line center, as well
as Atu Ratu and Max Sison, who are both pushing

(51:15):
for more more time, let alone Linas Carlson, who the
Canuts just re upped for another year, who looked really
solid against Winnipeg last night. On a one way if
I recall, yeah, one way, but that's I think I
think a lot of people look at those one ways
as if it's it's NHL or buster players. It's not actually.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
HL contract.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
It does, but it also helps keep him from being
claimed on waivers.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Because most HL teams that would claim him, or most
NHL teams that would claim him, wouldn't claim him because
of how much he they'd have to pay him in
the A.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Oh because if he because if he's not, he's if
they if he goes there and doesn't make their team
or doesn't and they have to waive them, they wouldn't
want them on that. Yeah, on necessarily on a one
way contract with that. So but yeah, I think it's
it's not I think that's what and he's he's earned it.

(52:20):
I think he's he's been. I think he's the leading
goal scorer for Abbotsford since they moved to the move
back moved to Abbotsford, and he's he's one of those
guys who I don't know if he's a quad A
player or can be, or can take that next step
and become a true NHLer, But we'll see. I think

(52:41):
he looked good last night and if he can play
like that consistently, he will be a fourth a fourth
line option for the Canucks next year. But you've got him,
You've got maxis On, You've got au Ratu all pushing
for for right, pushing up the lineup. Let alone, You've
got key for Surewood who's looked and that that pass

(53:01):
he made to set up the goal last night was
fantastically off of a off of a really nice four
check as well, And that's why they brought Keefer. Sure
what in is he's an absolute pain in the ass
to play against and is not not a shy at
all about here the NHL hits leader by a fucking mile.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Franchise record what halfway through the season.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, so it's no. I think when you look at
what the Canucks needs and they need to, they need
to raise the raise the floor on their middle six
and specifically the second line of the players that they're
they're they're icing and that's like they've got deep they've

(53:52):
got right now, they've got a they've got a number
one line with that's however they put that together, whether
the Brusk Besser and uh NPD or Totel under investor
in PD or totlerlerpet de Brusk, they've got a first
line and then they've got like two third lines and

(54:12):
a fourth line. What they need is a true number
two line when they had last year when they had
were able to run out yeah PD and Miller, even
when PD wasn't quite hit PD. It was still you
still had two top you still had a proper top six,
and then you had the third line, and then you

(54:34):
had a fourth line. So that the with the Canucks. Yeah,
the Canucks defensive depth has and and sort of shape
and everything has come together. Yes, they they had to
move Miller out to help facilitate that, but also they
rejig the chemistry on in this team. And so we

(54:55):
talked about earlier as well, and that was another reason why.
And sometimes you just need the right p is to
fit in the right spots and hope That's why I said,
if you you either need you ether need Hetle to
step up and become a true number two center, which
I think he has the build, he has the ability
to do that if he can stay healthy mm hmm.

(55:18):
Or you need to go out and find that and
it needs it can't. It has to be a step
above where he is currently. It has to be a
step above where a peace suitor is. As much as
I know Kevin is a big fan of peace suitor,
I saw it was that Donnie Dahali had the before
the had their uh want their their daily poll of

(55:40):
who the conducts should prioritize signing, whether it's suitor or besser,
and like it to me, like anyone saying peas suitor
is missing the boat based off of just understanding, Like, yeah,
team makeup. In my opinion, you need they need to
raise the level of that second line and peace Dudor

(56:04):
doesn't do that. As good as he is, he doesn't
do that.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, he's an excellent Swiss army knife that you can
plug in on any line for a temporary measure. He's
like the perfect piece if that's what you need him
to be. But yeah, he's not a replacement second mind.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Center, no, no, or even a winger honestly, Like he's
he's perfectly fit in that third line role. And the
Canucks already have basically a third line set.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
That play is praising him out of his rule.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah, that's the other thing.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Yeah, especially if you want if you want to talking
quote ing, yeahs want if the Ducks do want to
take just take that little lectra step and get best assigned,
whether even if it costs a.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Little bit more money for shorter term, if they can
get insigned to a four or five year deal, that
probably ideal, even if it is a little bit more
that comes out everyone else's potent what they can do
with everything else.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
So you have the money that you are currently paying
suitor slash what you might give suitor to stay, take
it from the suitor pile, put it into the best pile,
and then promote from within. Yep. That that's probably the
most realistic way of going about that.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, and then the Canucks also signed a goalie out
of a goalie out of college that they drafted a
few years ago, Aco Costs Costs, Kenvoo Man, Rick Dolliwall
was gonna have have fun.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
I was going to say, I'm glad you attempted it,
not me.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Just adds to the ads to the Canucks, uh goaltending depth,
like if they've got Tolopilo and and she loves and
as has depth pieces right now once and this.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
He's a promising young guy too.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah, you look solid as well. So yeah, just continue
to add to that. And then Yeah, the other big
news that came out of this this week with in
terms of signings and no signings and all that stuff,
is that that sounds like Rick Hackett is not going
to be negotiating his next contract until the season is over.

(58:27):
There's no if he just he can't as I think
he basically said, he's he's all in on making sure
that the team is making sure that the connects get
into the playoffs, and he makes the team better right now,
and he'll I mean, and that's fair, honestly, just folks,

(58:48):
Like there's no need.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It's a betting on yourself sort of mentality, it is.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
But I also think it's also just like, let's let's
when he can beant like it, we can, we can
hash this out after this season is done and we'll
go from there. Like it doesn't like how quickly do
they do these uf A deals happen when July first hits,

(59:19):
like they you can bang out a contract.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, not being done right now is because the media
is impatient. That's all it is.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Yeah, exactly like the market the media and the market
isn't patient and wants and well they also want. It's
also a talking point right right, and and this the
Canucks market is so addicted to drama, so addicted to
going over with a fine tooth comb any any contract

(59:52):
potential potential contract issue, that that's just they can't help themselves.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Like I don't I don't think this is exaggeration at
this point anymore, the Vancouver market is as bad as
how we used to complain about Toronto.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Oh it's worse.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I mean I'm not necessarily i'd say worse, but it's definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
On par Yeah, so it's but yeah, yeah, I don't
blame Taka for wanting to just focus on it. So
I think it's a smart But like Brendamore did that
with with Carolina. Look where's Brindamar right now? He's with Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Like, as long as talk doesn't want to go back
to TMT, I am happy with him waiting til the
off season, just as long as he stays.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, I to me, it could could he not come back? Yes,
there's always that potentiality, But there's no reason to worry
about this out right now, especially if the Connects can
get repeat what they did against Chicago and repeat what
they did against Winnipeg and and start winning some games
and get into the playoffs and start gelling as a

(01:01:02):
team again. I don't see why he wouldn't want to
I think I don't think if the drama had continued,
then maybe he would want to go. Yeah, if they
can sell as the team and start feeling like a
family again, then he's not going to want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I was gonna say, if I don't think there's been
like there's obviously there's been some bumps in the road,
but there's been enough negativity that he is out the
opinion and he's like, no, I'm not coming back. And
also with the open question mark of how this the
rest of the season plays out. If it goes positively,
I don't see any reason why he wouldn't want to

(01:01:42):
come back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I agree, all right, Chris, Is there anything else with
the Canucks that we missed?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Canucks related? I think we have bout covered it. I
honestly can't think of anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
All right, So let's just do one quick one last question.
We already covered the playoff and potential playoff changes at
the beginning of the podcast, so don't use that as
your answer for this. But if you can make one
rule change in the NHL, what would you do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Based off of how the four nation face off went
and expanded overtime period to minimize the potential of a shootout?
Is where I audio, Yeah, I'm not sure the PA
will agree to ten minutes, but that's where i'd leave.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Yeah, Freedom was sharing some.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Seven and a half or eight something like that, Yeah,
or somewhere in that range.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Mm hmmm. So I would I want to see standard.
It just makes so much more sense. And we got
Dylan saying the three two two one point system, I
think we need to rethink that. I'm not a I'm

(01:03:17):
not a I'm not against changing the point system, but
I don't know if three two one does what people
think it would on paper. Yes, but I think once
you want the strategy that comes into things, I just
don't know if it would. I think there might be some.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I guess my question to your point then would be
like that that correct me if I'm wrong, because you're
more of the the e p L guy than I am.
That that's the point system that the ep L.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Uses, right, Well, there's no there's no there's no overtime,
fair three way. It's three points for a win, one
point for a draw.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Okay, Like yeah, So what do you think is like
people's hope for the three two one system versus what
you think is realistically what it could end up being.
Because this is something I've dived into, so I'm kind
of curious what you're more in depth thought on that is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I think early in the season, teams wouldn't be playing
as much for the win, and at at the near
the end, they'll just they'll still still take the two points.
They wouldn't want to like give up three points, and
they'll they'll mitigate that way. So I think it would
it will get rid of some of the excitement near

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the end of the regulation. Is my guess what once
it once it comes to this time of year, when
you're it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
You know, you're basically saying the two points would become
what the one point currently is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah, well, no, I think the three like it. They yeah,
they would be they'd be playing for the two points
because they would want to mitigate losing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
What the two points would become.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, and then if you have yeah, and then if yeah,
I just I just look at that and I think
that yeah, there would be there still would be some
conservative play near the end of regulation, as opposed to
once you get into overtime. Yeah, that you go for
it because you want it, you want that that the

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to you want that extra point. But it's just basically
doesn't I don't think it really it changes much in overtime,
and I think it actually makes things more conservative for
the most part. In in regulation, once you get near
the end of the and the end of the end
of regular the regular season, and you start the math

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starts coming into play, then you might start seeing some
more pushing for you might even see empty nets, uh,
depending on what the math is for that. But I
don't know. It's I think just for the most part,

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I don't think it would actually change enough for to
be for me to be okay with that change. But again,
I'm I'm willing to have I'm willing to have a
discussion about it, and I'm willing two are to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Be an ECHL rule so that way they can kind
of quote unquote experiment with it before they implemented it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I think that makes sense. Yeah, I'm much I'm much
more receptive to this as as opposed to expanded playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I mean, I'm I like the idea in concept. It's
just a matter of figuring out the intricacies. And all
I've ever heard is just vague concept ideas, not like
this is how we'd actually pull it off. So I'm
intrigued by it, but I need to hear more.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Yeah, and yes, the pH NHL does use the three
to two point two one point system. But there's such
it's such a small league, and every and and it's
a shorter season, so you are going you're it's you
see every game. It is worth a fuck ton more

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as opposed to an eighty two game season like in October, November, December,
you're gonna see. I think you would see more teams
play even if you lose a point, that they'll play
to make sure that they get the points, as opposed
to playing hard to get that the three points and
then giving up a goal and losing and and and

(01:07:58):
losing three points, especially in the games and playoffs and
potential playoff games. Well, when it comes down to when
it comes down to you neede the three points to
even have a chance it, you'll you'll you'll you'll see
things open up. But I think for the most part,
I don't think it actually will change much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
And I guess to go back to my initial answer,
are you pro ten minutes or are you more in
that seven eight range?

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I'm pro ten minutes because I don't think they I
think most of the most of them wouldn't even reach
ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
That and like with with the current more conservative like okay,
let's reset and go back. Like, I feel like they're
gonna have the energy to pull a ten minute overtime off.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Yeah, I think ten minutes is for me, Like, I'll
add on to it. I want to see ten ten
minutes three on three overtime. And if it's not done
by then, Paula the tie, bring back ties.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
No one wants to kiss their siblings, Sean.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Shootouts are ship man. I hate shootouts. They're just they're
they're they're a gimmick. They're not even they're not even there,
They're not even just it's it'd be like settling basketball
with a free throw shooting contest, if you like settling
baseball ties with a home run dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
To me, I would say they're equally unpleasant. It's I
think I would rather something where there's a defined winner
as opposed to a tie. Is where I fall.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Fine, Man, ties are fine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I agree to disagree, but I think that's probably a
good place to leave this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
All right, how do we follow you? Chris?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
You can follow me on most social media sites at
Schnein's S E H N E I d ZN.

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