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8:01      Ohiopyle- hazy IPA brewed with pilsner malt and dry hopped with Azacca, Amarillo, and Citra hops.  6.5% ABV  New Trail Brewing Company Williamsport, PA  SUDS-3

 

14:47    Trendler Doppelbock- 7.5% ABV  Tired Hands Brewing Company Ardmore PA  SUDS-4

 

26:46    Sloop John T double IPA- brewed with Columbus, citra, and lotus hops.  8.4% ABV Tröegs Independent Brewing Hershey, PA in collaboration with Sloop Brewing Co. Hopewell Junction, NY SUDS-2

 

32:03    6th Anniversary Ale- English Barleywine.  10% ABV Wallenpaupack Brewing Company, Hawley, PA SUDS-5

 

36:46    Trial By Wombat- Hazy IPA brewed with Australian Galaxy hops.  7% ABV  Thin Man Brewery Buffalo, NY  SUDS-3

 

40:04    Willamette Valley Double IPA- brewed with a blend of Strata, Audacia, and Luminosa hops from Alluvial Hop Farm.  8% ABV  Trillium Brewing Company Canton, MA in collab with Garage Project Wellington City, Wellington New Zealand.  SUDS-3

 

45:07    Hop Explosion- West Coast-style IPA brewed with Citra and Chinook hops.  7% ABV  Fegley’s Brew Works Allentown, PA  SUDS-2

 

48:26    Bella Lago Italian lager.  4.7% ABV  Jack’s Abbey Craft Lagers Framingham, MA  SUDS-3

 

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>> Announcer (00:00):
On the next episode of Sip suds and
smokes.

>> Dave (00:03):
The beers that came here to us from Pennsylvania
that we're going to try today are from New Trail
Brewing Company, Ohio Pile Hazy
IPA from Tired Hands Brewing
Company, Trindler Doppelbock from
Troges Brewing and Sloop Brewing.
Sloop John B double IPA

(00:24):
from Wallen Paw Pack Brewing Co.
6th Anniversary Ale English Style barley
wine from Thin Man
Trial by Wombat ipa.
And from Trillium Brewing Company,
Willamette Valley Double IPA
from Fegley's Brew
Works, Hop Explosion

(00:45):
ipa. And from Jack's
Abbey Brewing, Bella Lago
Italian Style Pilsner.

>> Announcer (00:53):
We'll be right back after this break.

(01:17):
Brought to you almost live from the dude in the
basement studios.

>> Kendall (01:21):
Why?

>> Announcer (01:22):
Because that's where the good stuff is. It
sips suds and smokes with your smoke.
And host the good old boys.

(01:50):
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Suds.

>> Kendall (01:50):
Suds.

>> Dave (01:51):
Suds.

>> Announcer (01:52):
It's time for more suds.

>> Julianna (01:56):
Hey there. Welcome.
Come on in, everyone. And welcome to another
sud segment where we don't claim to have
all the answers unless your only question
is how long can good ol boy Mike go without
offending some part of our audience?

>> (02:12):
3, 2, 1.

>> Announcer (02:15):
Here we go.

>> Julianna (02:17):
The answer, by the way, is 2 minutes and 12 seconds.
That is the current record, though, after this
episode.

>> (02:23):
Said aspirational.

>> Julianna (02:25):
Yes, it feels aspirational.
I'm, um, one of your hosts, Goodle Gal Gilliana. And joining me at the table
today is good. O boy Kendall.

>> (02:33):
Hello.

>> Kendall (02:34):
How are you today?

>> Julianna (02:35):
Good, how are you?

>> Kendall (02:36):
I am great. Happy to be here. Good.

>> Julianna (02:38):
Oh, boy.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Carl, I'm back.
Greetings.
Good old boy Mike. Hello.

>> (02:45):
You know, there's a postcard campaign now from Canadians
to try to remove me from the airwaves in Canada.

>> Kendall (02:51):
How do we get in on that?

>> (02:52):
I know you have. You have to buy them in bulk,
though.

>> Julianna (02:56):
No problem. We can handle it.

>> (02:58):
A lot of bears involved.

>> Dave (02:59):
I'm gonna lump Tennessee into that somehow.

>> Julianna (03:02):
Yeah, right.

>> (03:03):
Good.

>> Julianna (03:03):
Uh, old boy Dave. Hello.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I am better than you.
Nice.

>> (03:10):
That's aspirational.

>> Julianna (03:12):
So much so.

>> Dave (03:14):
Especially the first part of that word.

>> Julianna (03:17):
Well, for those of you who may not know, I'm a
Pennsylvania girl at heart. And I go back
my family, it's weird.

>> Dave (03:23):
Like that never comes up.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Never ever.

>> Julianna (03:26):
Right, Right. Um, so every so often I
go back home for a visit and I recently brought back a
few interesting beers for the good old boys to try. Good
old boy Dave, why don't you give us today's lineup?

>> (03:37):
Sure.

>> Dave (03:38):
The Pennsylvania. Well, not all
Pennsylvania. The beers that came here to us from
Pennsylvania that we're going to try today are
from New Trail Brewing Company in Williamsport,
Pennsylvania, Ohio. Pile
Hazy IPA from Tired Hands
Brewing Company in Ardmore. Pennywise Hands
retired. Uh, Trendler

(03:59):
Doppelbach from Troges
Brewing in Hershey, Pennsylvania. And Sloop
Brewing in Hopewell Junction, New
York. Sloop John B double
IPA from Wallen Paw Pack
Brewing Company in Holly, Pennsylvania.
6th Anniversary Ale, English style barley
wine from Tin Man Brewing

(04:21):
Company in Buffalo, New York. Man Thin Man.
Tin Man. I don't know.

>> (04:26):
Shut up.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Uh, my joke here is that the owner is actually not very thin.

>> Dave (04:29):
Oh, is he made of tin?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's unknown.
Okay, uh, Trial by Wombat
ipa. And from Trillium
Brewing Company in Boston, Ma.
Willamette Valley Double ipa.

>> (04:44):
It's all right.

>> Dave (04:44):
You know what? Swear to God.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. Will Amit.
Like, damn it, one of these days I'm going to make it through one of these.

>> (04:51):
I know. They're talking about a river that is not in
Massachusetts, but.

>> Dave (04:54):
From Feg's Brew Works
in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Hop
Explosion ipa. Did I say that? Okay,
guys.

>> (05:03):
No.

>> Dave (05:05):
From Jack's Abbey Brewing in
Framingham. Ma
bella, uh, lago Italian style
Pilsner.

>> (05:20):
Big words for you.

>> Dave (05:21):
You know what?

>> (05:21):
There's almost four syllables in a couple.

>> Dave (05:25):
Okay, whatever, man.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: We got our first ever cease and desist from Jack's Abbey,
actually.
Oh, cool.

>> Kendall (05:33):
It's true.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: They were super cool about it.

>> Julianna (05:35):
Wait, seriously?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Dave (05:38):
Look, I just.

>> (05:39):
I spend Mondays writing those things. Like pest candy,
you know? Yeah, like 20C and DS on.
On every Monday, you know?

>> Dave (05:46):
How many do you get from other people, Mike?

>> (05:50):
Let's see. None lately.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Did you, um. We don't get them very often. It
was. We hadn't been open a year, and we did a collab for
the Guild, and it was Steve, uh, Wright with
Jackalope Brewing and myself brewed, like, 10
gallons of beer on a homebrew pilot system.

>> Dave (06:07):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And then we took it over to Craft Brewed, uh,
rip, and gave, uh, it away
for donations to the Guild. So we weren't even really
selling it, we were just giving it away.

>> Julianna (06:18):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And, um, we decided to call it, uh,
Jack Abby.

>> (06:22):
Ooh.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And we printed posters and hung them around. And then, uh,
must have showed up on something. Yeah. And so we got a C and
D, and, uh, they called before
they sent it, which was very
nice. And John talked to him, um, my business
partner, and he said, you know, all right, we'll
let you, you know, we'll license the name to you for

(06:44):
this specific purpose. For Some period of time,
uh, for the amount of a dollar, and you don't really need to send me the dollar.
And so I. I was like, oh, that's ridiculous. Like, I sent them the
dollar.

>> Julianna (06:53):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Like, I signed the thing and I sent him the dollar. And then
when they were in town for the Craft brewers conference
in 17, I think,
or something like that. 18. Yeah.
Uh, I met the guys at
Tailgate. They were sitting out on the patio talking
to Wes, and he brought me in. It's like, introduced me, and I was like,
oh, you're the guys who sent me the first cnd. And he

(07:16):
said, oh, you're the idiot who mailed me a dollar. Because it
was. I literally just put a dollar in an envelope with a contract and
mailed it. That's true. Yeah. Funny
story, Carl.

>> Dave (07:25):
Carl pays his debts, man.

>> Julianna (07:26):
Yeah, he's an honest boy.
Okay, well, cool. Um, what do I.
Kendall, why don't you give us a suds rating?

>> Dave (07:33):
You better say every word exactly.

>> Julianna (07:36):
Oh, my gosh.

>> Kendall (07:37):
Okay, let's see if I can do this better than
Dave.

>> Dave (07:41):
Oh, well, I mean, yeah.

>> (07:42):
Affirmative.

>> Julianna (07:43):
That's it.

>> Dave (07:44):
Let's set the bar a little higher.

>> Kendall (07:46):
You know, we'll be discussing and
rating these beers with these suds ratings plus our
signature belching sounds. Here are those ratings
now. One. That sucks. Give me anything
but a Bud.
Two. Was that a belch?
Three.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Ah.
Uh, what a relief.

(08:11):
Four. A body should really not make that
sound.
Uh, and
five. Listen to that hang time. Give me another.

>> Dave (08:25):
I am going to give your reading of the
sudge ratings a sudge rating of
3.

>> (08:34):
I think if you had said Wallen Paul Pack, you know, at
least three times, I think that would have just moved it,
you know, further south.

>> Kendall (08:42):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: A.

>> Julianna (08:44):
It warms my heart that you guys know how to say
while in pack. Yeah, that's so nice.
Okay, um, well, let's get to the
beers. The first one that we are going to talk
about is from New
Trail in Williamsport, home of the Little League
World Series. And dare I
say, the more that I drink from New Trail, the

(09:07):
more that I feel like they're becoming our
version of, like, a trillium
esque kind of brewery.
No, I mean, just a lot of IPAs. A lot of
good IPAs, because I.

>> (09:19):
Cast my gaze over my. Over my glasses going
really under.

>> Dave (09:23):
Okay, That's a pretty odd bar.

>> Julianna (09:26):
No, but I'm just for Pennsylvania. They're
just. They just keep churning out, like,
solid beer, that's all.

>> Kendall (09:33):
So we're on a Pennsylvania scale here. Mike.

>> Dave (09:37):
Oh, boy, you
guys,
so sweet. I'm not liking how this is going.

>> (09:43):
Is that a one? It looks like a one. Kendall.

>> Julianna (09:46):
Yes, he's number one.
Okay, so the Ohio Pile is a six and a half
percent ABV Hazy ipa. It's brewed
with pilsner malts and hefty amount of
oats. That's oats and dry
hopped with azaka and amarillo and
citro. Now, for those of you that are

(10:06):
interested, Ohio Pile State park is,
is kind of what this beer is named after.
And it has 20,000
acres, um, into the gateway of the Laurel
Highlands. This is Western pa. And,
um, it's absolutely gorgeous. I mean,
there's a lot of rapids.

>> Kendall (10:24):
There'S rail to trail, bicycle trails.

>> Julianna (10:27):
Yeah. Falling, uh, waters there, which is, like,
absolutely gorgeous. I mean, I don't know if anyone really is a Frank
Lloyd Wright fan anymore, but. By the way, yes, it is a
house, but it's an absolutely gorgeous house. And then, like,
across the street and down the road a little bit is another
house, um, with a really
cool, amazing,
um, outdoor art

(10:49):
installation. Have you seen that?
Like, there's like two pieces of the Berlin Wall
out there and. Yeah, it's really cool.

>> (10:57):
Anyways, it's a great little bit this Jed.

>> Kendall (11:01):
I've been there many times. It's a great place to visit if you're looking for something to
do in Western Penns.

>> Dave (11:05):
If you'd like to celebrate the end of communism.

>> Julianna (11:09):
Well, there's that. Okay. So what do
we think of, uh, this beer?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Well, I think if the Ohio Pile State park has
20,000 acres and they raised oats on all of it, they
probably used all of those oats in this beer.

>> (11:22):
Yeah, this beer
has, um, an overt amount of body
to it. And that was the first thing that struck me, is
it's very heavy on the palate. And
yes, it is very oat. It is oat, oat and
more oat. It has too many oats.

>> Kendall (11:38):
But I like it. I like the flavor. It's for a
hazy. It's balanced. It's not too over the top.

>> (11:43):
I don't know. I like balance a lot.

>> Kendall (11:45):
Yeah, it actually has a reminiscence of
bitterness in it. It's not just all
flavor. It's. It's not a bad little
beer.

>> (11:53):
I just wish they would use about half of the
oats probably put in this, you know. Yeah,
it is.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's super O forward, you know, like, I
should.

>> Dave (12:03):
They call it an opa.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, I think that would be only if they're Greek.

>> (12:08):
Yeah. Epsilon. Come here,
Opa.
Sorry. We were talking about Elon Musk Kids earlier
before, uh, we flipped the mics on, so.
Yeah, that's where that joke came from. But,
yeah, I just. I wonder if they started with,
you know, the bass beer itself, and it just got

(12:30):
away from them. And, you know,
uh, it seems like there was a clear
version of this that they came back and used the same
hot profile and then brought in a lot of
components, you know, to turn it into a hazy. And
it was like the. The basic recipe
kind of got lost along the way, you know?

(12:50):
Yeah.

>> Julianna (12:52):
Uh, maybe.

>> (12:53):
Maybe.

>> Julianna (12:54):
I like it, though.

>> Kendall (12:55):
I wonder what Dave thinks.

>> Dave (12:57):
Oh, we're two.

>> Kendall (12:58):
Two.

>> Dave (12:58):
I like it. No, I, I, I don't find it
too for it. It is definitely there. It's got
slickness, and it's got.

>> (13:05):
Needs a spoon.

>> Dave (13:06):
It's got some body, but high
in fiber. Good for your heart.
And I do think I like the
way the hops travel across your palette
from beginning to end.

>> Julianna (13:18):
Yeah. And I like having that little bit of bitterness at the end to,
like, kind of cut off the softness. Well, we'll be
back with a rating on this in just a minute.
Welcome back, everyone. Today's
episode is a little hodgepodge of, uh,
some beers that I brought back from Pennsylvania
on my most recent trip.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I don't know where Chili Square is on a map.

>> (13:42):
What a bunch of morons, huh? That's for sure.

>> Julianna (13:47):
Uh, the beer that we were talking about before the break
was the Ohio Pile Hazy
ipa, uh, from New Trail Brewing in
Williamsport, Pennsylvania. And
we are going to rate this
a.
I, uh, guess we're going with the three.

>> Dave (14:06):
Sorry, buddy.

>> Julianna (14:09):
It's okay.

>> (14:10):
Now, if they packaged it with a disposable spoon,
like, taped right to the can, you know,
I think that would. Are you saying I'm number one now?

>> Julianna (14:19):
You're number one? Yes.

>> (14:20):
I thought Kendall was number one.

>> Julianna (14:22):
You're both number one.

>> (14:24):
She can use both.

>> Kendall (14:25):
Both.

>> (14:25):
Hands down, you're number one. I'm number one.

>> Dave (14:27):
Kindle Mike said it's an Ohio pile of crap.

>> Julianna (14:30):
Okay, so both number one.

>> (14:32):
It's not a pile of crap. It's a pile of oats. This is completely
different.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's very od.

>> Julianna (14:36):
Gosh. Okay, moving
on.
Let's now go to Tired Hands Brewing in Ardmore,
Pennsylvania. Um, that's around the Philadelphia
area. For the uneducated, this is the
Trendler Doppelbock, and I was kind of
thrilled to see a doppelbock in the cooler. This is
7 1/2% ABV. It's a tribute to
their favorite strong loggers from

(14:58):
Bavaria. This one are their
first run in a monastic
style. Is built from a plethora of German
hops and or German malts and hopped
lightly with hollertail middle fruit. Am I saying that
right? Um, fermented, extra
cool and then stored cold for three
months. So

(15:21):
what do you think of adoptable?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I don't know. I get molasses on it, which I like.

>> Kendall (15:25):
Yeah, yeah, there's some of those dark sugars there for sure.

>> Julianna (15:28):
You can even smell the molasses like right up front
too.

>> Kendall (15:31):
But I kind of like it.

>> (15:33):
I guess the thing, you know, when I think
about a doppelbock, I'm
like, what are the differences between a dunkle and
a doppelbock? You know, and to me, I think that the
doppelbox should be a lot more drier,
the dunkle actually should be a bit sweeter.
And to me this is moving closer to

(15:54):
a dunkle than a doppelbok because that,
that burnt sugar thing is just kind of leaping all at
you and it's not in check, you know,
specifically, you know, with the, with the hops that they're going,
going here. So on top of, do one or the
other, either use less sugar
or add more hops because,

(16:14):
uh, the balance is off on this.

>> Dave (16:16):
Thought I was going to make it through this whole year without agreeing with Mike.

>> (16:21):
Everybody.

>> Dave (16:22):
I'm so close. I was so close.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, I mean it's, it's very sugar forward.
Um, but I like, I'm a malt head.

>> (16:30):
I.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Is it, is it 100 accurate, true to style? Probably not.
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Uh, would I drink the whole can? Yeah, probably.

>> Dave (16:38):
I think it's too sweet initially, but I like the way it
finishes. Like there's something it doesn't hang
around. Yeah, that's.

>> Kendall (16:45):
No, I, I like it. I think a little more
bitterness to scrub that palette at the end would make this a great
beer.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Mhm. Yeah, I really like it.
Yeah, but I like it. I can enjoy it.

>> Dave (16:55):
What about you, Juliana?

>> (16:57):
Well, I like this beer. Until Mike spoke.

>> Julianna (17:02):
No, I, I think
doppelbox can meet to me, can get a little muddy.
Um, I like this. I like the fact that a brewery, like
tired hands, is trying something like this, getting out of their
wheelhouse, so to speak. Because when I think of them, I think
of IPAs and I think of sours, you know what I mean?
Um, so having this is nice and

(17:22):
especially in this like cooler weather, I can appreciate
it. Um, and, yeah, I would drink the whole thing because
it's still. I mean, it's six and a half. It's
very. It's light to me. Um, and I'm really
digging the molasses on it. Like, really digging the
molasses. So there's that.

>> Dave (17:39):
Okay.

>> Julianna (17:39):
Okay, so we shall rate
this one from tired hands
A4. Yeah, because I was
thinking that, too. Is it story
time or. Yeah, sure, let's do
some story time.

>> (17:54):
Berry time. Well, you know,
in all of the stories that we've had,
it's a bear and a stuffed bear theme. So, you
know, that's what I love.

>> Dave (18:04):
Mike is now two for two.

>> (18:05):
Yeah. Thank you.
All right, so this.
This is a, uh, story from la. Um,
Los Angeles.

>> Dave (18:14):
Not lower Alabama?

>> (18:15):
No, not lower Alabama. Although this could be
a story from lower Alabama if there were bears in lower
Alabama. But California has seen a share.
Bears breaking into cars. But bears caught on camera entering
luxury cars, tipped off ensures that
something wasn't quite right. And
what has been dubbed Operation Bear Claw. All
right, what are we going to do? We have a. We have

(18:38):
a name for our, uh, initiative here,
the California Insurance Department. Okay. So that's like
two guys that sit around and, uh, play, you
know, rock, paper, scissors all day long,
you know. Denied.
No. Yeah. Is it time for
lunch yet?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Clearly time for a bear claw.

(18:59):
Yeah. There were four Los
Angeles residents that were arrested Wednesday accused
of defrauding three insurance companies. Not one,
not two, but three insurance companies. Oh, my
gosh. Out of
$142,000. By claiming a bear
had caused damage to their vehicles.
The group is accused of providing video footage from the

(19:20):
San Bernardino Mountains in January of a
bear moving inside a Rolls Royce
and two Mercedes to the insurance companies
as part of damage claims. And the department said.
Photos provided by the insurance department show
that appeared to be scratches on the seats and the
doors. The company viewing video of the

(19:41):
Rolls Royce suspended that it was not a bear inside,
but someone in a bear costume.
So I'm just wondering how this is going, you know, in
a planning stage. All right, so,
Harold, you're gonna be the bear. Okay?
I'm talking, like, a lot of scratches. I mean, like.
But don't scratch that part of the Rolls Royce, because

(20:03):
we can't find that part.

>> Dave (20:04):
Get.

>> (20:04):
Get that part because we can, you know, And Harold's looking
at him like, yeah, man, I'm not doing
this.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Right.

>> Dave (20:11):
Like, you couldn't. You couldn't see it in what you have. But. But
m. They showed a picture of the alleged
bear suit and then, you know those metal claws
people use, like when you're chopping up, um, barbecue, pulling
apart barbecue.

>> (20:23):
Right? Yeah, they call bear claws.

>> Dave (20:25):
Yeah, they were actually, that's what they thought
would be a great idea.

>> (20:29):
And they ordered them on Amazon so they could keep it right there in their
order history in case they needed them again or when
they get the subpoena.

>> Dave (20:41):
Like, they'd have been better saying it was Bigfoot or something.
Like, bigfoot broke into my car.

>> (20:45):
The detectives found two additional claims with two
different insurance companies for the four of the
same date of loss in the same location. Boy, that
is really giving up a lot of credit to
the. Bought up some luxury
cars that really happened.

>> Dave (21:00):
But anyway, parked them in San Bernardino.

>> (21:03):
A similar claim, I guess. Did someone
hop into the search, uh, engine and type the word
bear in the insurance claim engine to go, oh, look,
there are four or five claims right there together.
Yeah.

>> Dave (21:15):
Uh, I want to know how many, uh, how many white claws
or something.

>> Kendall (21:20):
Story that doesn't make any sense is they still had to mess up these
cars, right?

>> Dave (21:24):
They're still damaged where the car's already
messed up.

>> (21:27):
I don't know.

>> Kendall (21:28):
It's so weird.

>> Dave (21:29):
Here we go.

>> (21:29):
Oh, it was actually a search warrant where the
detectives found the bear costume in the suspect's
home. Well, you know, Harold, when you're
done playing the bear, actually get rid of the bear
costume.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Throw in the dumpster. You know, it's like, it's where
bear belongs.
I'm from Bakersfield. I don't throw away nothing.

(21:51):
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I'm needed for Halloween next year.

>> Julianna (21:52):
Yeah.

>> Dave (21:53):
Ah, yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Wow.

>> (21:54):
So, um. Yeah, I just,
uh. Is this. Is this lack of planning or
creativity? I'm not really quite sure exactly, you know,
where.

>> Julianna (22:02):
It had to be a mixture of all the above.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Uh, I mean, I don't know.

>> Dave (22:06):
I don't understand how they. Yeah, but I'm with Kindle. Like.
Like, you have these. You have a Rolls Royce.
So was it already kind of jacked up or something?
I wonder if maybe they bought it at, like, one of those police auctions and
it already been kind of sliced.

>> (22:21):
Come across on Career day. What? Harold, what do
you want to do when you grow up? Ah, I want to put on a
bear costume and, like, terrible Rolls Royce.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Listen, if I had a Rolls Royce and a bear costume, I would just
drive it around in the bear castle.

>> Dave (22:35):
Would be awesome.

>> Julianna (22:36):
That would be awesome.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I dressed as a gorilla one year for Halloween.

>> (22:38):
Would you get better service in a drive through it, in and out that way? Because
I don't know.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: That probably would be fast.

>> Dave (22:45):
Hurry up.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Get that Bears Burger.

>> (22:47):
If you ordered animal style while you're wearing a bear
costume, do you get extra fries?

>> Dave (22:51):
You just order it me style.

>> Julianna (22:53):
Yeah, I'm sure you'd be trending on TikTok in,
like, no time.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. So I wore a full gorilla suit into a
Kroger On Halloween, probably
18 years ago. And, uh, except for the head, because I didn't want
him to think I was robbing the place.

>> (23:07):
Who do you retain as counsel for that?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: No, I didn't. Well, remains to be seen.
We, uh. I was checking out at the self checkout, and I was, like,
trying to tap the screen with my big gorilla fingers.
And, uh, the people at the thing in front of me
had a little kid in the buggy.
The kid was facing me, but the parents are facing away. And the kid was just
staring at me like. Like there was a gorilla in

(23:30):
the grocery store, you know?

>> Julianna (23:31):
Sure.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And so I just, like. I waved in a, like, a way where,
like, I kind of wiggled my fingers like that. And,
uh. And the kid just goes, bad
monkey.
And I was like, I'm sorry. I didn't do anything. I'm just here
trying to get some candy, you know?

>> Dave (23:48):
That'd be a good beer.

>> (23:51):
How long is the band? 10 year, 15 year, 20 year.
Banned from Kroger?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh, no, I, uh. No, I was. I was not
spoken to by any Kroger employees at all.
They actually promoted you into management?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yes. I've got eight
stores under my purview.
We got executive management on Aisle 5.

>> Dave (24:08):
Considering some of the things I've seen in Kroger's.

>> (24:13):
You'Re totally executive material. Yeah, for
sure. Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I threatened a Mickey Mouse.
We have a shift open next Tuesday at 1.

>> Dave (24:22):
Wait, hold on, Mike. Hold on, Mike.

>> Julianna (24:24):
Hold on.

>> Dave (24:27):
I need more.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, you need more. What?
You threatened a Mickey Mouse?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh, I did. I threatened a Mickey Mouse in a Kroger one time.
My daughter, when she was little, was afraid
of people in costumes of, like, mascots.
She should be. That's survival incense.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And so, uh, we were trying.

>> Julianna (24:43):
Well, I saw him dressed as a gorilla.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: She did, actually. Uh, but. So I was trying to leave,
and there was a Mickey and a Minnie, uh, by the door.
And so as we were walking up, I said, hey,
Mickey and Minnie, my, um, daughter's
not super excited to see y'all, so if you wouldn't mind just taking
a step back, um, I could go ahead and get out and
nobody has to get hurt. And, uh. And the

(25:04):
Minnie Mouse put her hands up and took two steps back.

>> (25:07):
Right?

>> Julianna (25:07):
Sure.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And the Mickey Mouse walked right up to my daughter and put its
mouse face right in her face and, like, shook its
head and she started screaming.
I said, if you don't step back from my child right
now, I'm gonna beat the snot out of you and
your.

>> Dave (25:22):
He didn't say snot, y'all.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I did not. I'm censoring for. I'm not gonna be
the one who offends half your audience. We're 12 minutes in. It ain't gonna
be me.

>> (25:31):
They're Canadians. That can't be offense.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Bunch of hosers. Yeah, but. Yeah, no, that
was. Yeah. And yeah, so I did. I did threaten
to physically attack him. Mickey Mouse.
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Totally deserved it.

>> Julianna (25:43):
Oh, totally.

>> (25:43):
I just want to know where you put this stuff on your resume, Carl.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You know, listen, you put it at the top.

>> Dave (25:48):
That's why he had to start his.

>> Julianna (25:49):
Own business interest section.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You just got to get me in the interview.

>> (25:52):
How many hits on LinkedIn do you get? Yes, I beat the crap
out of Mickey Barrel.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I didn't. I did threaten him. I didn't.
I didn't have to. I didn't have to hit him. Cool.
You could be our vice president to. Come on in, man.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: See, I just. I look really
dangerous.

>> Julianna (26:09):
Okay?

>> (26:10):
Because she'd own it, man. She just. At the
next interview, you should just go, hey, let me
roll this tape for you.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: At the next interview. The next.

>> Dave (26:20):
Got any mouse problems, just, uh, let me know. That's
right.

>> (26:24):
There's a beer in all this.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. Somewhere.
Yeah, somewhere.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Back off, Mickey.
Yeah, back off, Mickey.

>> Dave (26:30):
I like it.

>> (26:30):
There you go.

>> Julianna (26:32):
Wow. Okay, well, let's get to
a beer, folks.
Um, the next one that we're going to talk about is
Sloop John T.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: B, T
Sail down the Sloop John B. My grandfather and
me.
I know, I know. Yeah, they said T.

(26:52):
Okay.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: T. Well, my cup says, uh.

>> Dave (26:55):
I said B. I thought I was singing the Beach Boys
song.

>> Julianna (26:58):
I know, I know, I know. Okay.

>> (27:01):
Do you know where Hopewell Junction is?

>> Dave (27:02):
And I did.

>> (27:03):
Pour it.

>> Julianna (27:03):
Nice. Um, okay, this is
8% ABV.
Hoist up the sales. They've charted another course for a
double ipa, this time in collaboration with New York based
Sloop Brewing Company. Flaked
oats combined with pilsner and pale malts to provide the
backbone and hazy golden hue of the
Sloop John T.

>> Dave (27:24):
It would be better if it was.

>> Julianna (27:26):
John B. Um, and they
use Citra Columbus. And
Lotus was waiting for that. I
don't know if I've ever had anything with Lotus hops before, have
I?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: No, probably not since the rush beer episode.
Okay. Okay.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I'm saying no, they didn't use Lotus in this. I was,
I'm like they should have.

>> (27:48):
Should have, should have done anything to make a good beer.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: So I can. I'm just
in the spirit of full disclosure, I am not a hazy IPA
consumer.
We know that.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: So this is kind of meh for me.
I'm the only haze head left at the uh, table.

>> Kendall (28:04):
I like a good haze, but the problem is I've never liked the double
haze. I just don't think it works. It's always too
sweet. The bitterness doesn't stand up to it. This is
the same problem every other Double Hazy has.

>> Dave (28:15):
This one doesn't come across as too sweet to me. But it's,
it's. There's something I don't.

>> Julianna (28:20):
It's very berry ish. I'm like tasting
berries.

>> (28:24):
Yeah.

>> Dave (28:24):
It's like the hop combination's not.

>> Julianna (28:27):
Yeah. I'm kind of, I'm kind of surprised.

>> (28:29):
Almost like ah, Evergreen berry, you
know, are intensely. You almost like a
juniper. It's intensely.

>> Julianna (28:36):
Yeah.

>> (28:37):
You know, bitter. Um. Yeah. This
is just out of balance for me.

>> Julianna (28:41):
I kind of have.

>> (28:42):
I don't like the beginning, the middle or the end. It's just like,
it's like a three part story that's actually not a story.
And I like this. Yeah, no, it's just not
working. Dave.

>> Julianna (28:56):
Yeah, this is a little disappointing for me.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I thought sangria.

>> (29:00):
Yeah, yeah. Wouldn't even,
wouldn't even qualify as good sangria. I, this
is a beer. I would have like half a glass and go, what's
next? You know. Absolutely.

>> Kendall (29:11):
I don't know if I'd get through a half.

>> Dave (29:12):
I have beers like this are why they make
flights.

>> (29:15):
Well, it reminds me of just. I mean how many
times have we talked about collaboration beers or
just they almost
never working? Well, you know,
it's, it always winds up being, you know, that was a really
cool trip to, you know, wherever. But you know, we didn't
make a good beer in the process.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You know, it's uh, at Black Abbey we have three rolls of

(29:37):
collabs. Show up late, get
drunk, leave early.
There you go.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And I think.
And I can, I had make great beer onto
the menu.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Well if we are the guest and when
we show up someplace like the recipe's already been
decided on and whoever's hosting it is in charge of
making it right. We're just there for window dressing and social

(29:58):
Media posts. And the same is true as if we're hosting a
collab. The other brewery. I expect them to show up late, get drunk and
leave early. Uh, honestly, that's my
job. Our brewer makes the beer and
I entertain the other brewery. And then I take them to
Rosie's to drink Malort.

>> Dave (30:15):
Nice.

>> Julianna (30:15):
You can go to Dicey's now, too.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh, Dicey's.
I like Dicey's. Maybe a little too much.

>> Dave (30:26):
Yeah, I will say, you know, like.

>> (30:29):
He has a hot honey tattoo.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: No, no.

>> Julianna (30:33):
Oh, and the barrel age Malort.

>> (30:37):
Oh, no.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: La gusta. I didn't like that at all.

>> Dave (30:40):
I didn't either. I. I thought it was like Malort with
vanilla. Which is.

>> Julianna (30:44):
It was.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I didn't think Malora could get worse. And then it did.

>> Kendall (30:50):
That's something.

>> Julianna (30:51):
It. It was what, we had like three.

>> Dave (30:53):
No, it was just. It was just the regular in the
barrel.

>> Julianna (30:56):
Are you sure?

>> Dave (30:57):
And then you had a cocktail? M. I think.

>> Julianna (30:59):
Oh. Or two. Or 20. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, we're gonna. Oh, God, this is sad
because I really love tropes. Um, but
the Trogue Sleep collaboration, otherwise known
as Loop John B. We are going to rate a T,
2C, D T. Yeah,
sorry, I'm reading off of.

>> Dave (31:18):
Yeah, I know I am.

>> (31:20):
I'm not indicting the. The breweries
involved.

>> Dave (31:23):
They both make beer really good.

>> (31:25):
Not good.

>> Julianna (31:25):
Yeah, no, I know. And it's just I had high hopes.

>> (31:28):
Because I love Carl's menu.

>> Dave (31:30):
Yeah, maybe. I think we all showed up late.

>> Julianna (31:33):
Maybe. Maybe they did.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Listen, I hope they had a great time.

>> Dave (31:39):
Just never ever make this beer again. I
don't.

>> Julianna (31:42):
Well, Sloop came down to Hershey and you know,
maybe did they come down the Hershey Highway?

>> (31:47):
I knew that was coming. Somehow, some way.

>> Julianna (31:50):
Okay, moving on. Let's go to
Holly, um, where Lake Wallen Paul
Pack is and Wallen Paw Pack Brewery. This is their
sixth anniversary ale. It's an English style barley wine
and it is coming in at 10%
and ABV something
completely different.

>> Kendall (32:09):
Um, we haven't had a barley one in a while. I'm digging it.

>> (32:12):
And it's an English style barley wine as well, you know.
So I'm thinking this is like a, uh, Samuel Smith's.
It really should go down that of having a lot of noble
hops.

>> Julianna (32:22):
We'll be back with in just a minute.
Welcome back, everyone. Today is a little
hodgepodge of different style
beers from different breweries around the
northeast from the last time that I went home
visiting my m family. And right before the Break. We
started to Talk about the 6th Anniversary Ale from

(32:42):
Wallen Paul Pack Brewery. And this is an English
style barley wine at 10%. But
she does not taste like 10%.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh, I get.
She just tastes beautiful.

>> (32:53):
I thought that Carl nailed it. Saying, this is like a
hearty. That is totally. You
know, that's the greatest compliment I could think of. Yeah.

>> Kendall (33:02):
Very enjoyable.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yep.

>> (33:03):
Very good beer.

>> Kendall (33:04):
Intense, smooth.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And I will say, and
Kendall, you probably heard me say this before. Like, this has got a
little of the quote, tastes like homebrew,
unquote thing. And I can't
define what that means. I
can't define it. I can't define it. But some, there's.
I don't know whether it's that it's unfiltered or

(33:25):
that maybe it's not fully attenuated.
Uh, which.
Yeah, I don't think it is fully attenuated. There's definitely some
sugar hanging out in this.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. Right. So for an English barley wine, that's very much good.
Yeah.

>> (33:36):
I mean, I think that is true to style. And, you know, I
think when most people are thinking barley wines,
I'm thinking, how far do I need to set this?
You know, to let it chill out? Because, you know, you've
got these big, booming,
you know, barley, American style barley wines. 120
minute IPA is like the cornerstone of

(33:56):
or bigfoot, you know, and,
you know, these things need to just chill out for like two
to three years. This is good to go now. I really
love this. I would have this all day long. This
is, I think, I think it's really good to
style. Maybe, uh, a tad sweet, you
know, as Kendall was saying. But
honestly, I think the thing I would say at the end of the first

(34:18):
pint was, I'll have another.

>> Dave (34:20):
I don't think you would want to sit this back.

>> (34:22):
No.

>> Kendall (34:22):
That's actually a year old.

>> (34:24):
No.

>> Kendall (34:24):
Really?

>> Julianna (34:25):
Yeah.

>> Kendall (34:26):
September, uh, 23rd.

>> Julianna (34:28):
Yeah. They just had their seventh anniversary.

>> (34:30):
Interesting.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. And I think it's held up, I think, for when I
say tastes like homebrew. I bet that's really. What I mean is that
it. It's carrying residual sugar. A lot of times
it's difficult for a home brewer
to get beer to be completely fully
attenuated.
Right. And they're sitting around watching it.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, Well, I mean, maybe they're not. Maybe they're off working their day

(34:51):
job. But, uh, I think that this beer, that
works in its favor. Right. For an English style barley
wine, it should be back end sweet like that.
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. This is really good I like it.
Yeah. Yay.

>> Dave (35:03):
Great beer.

>> (35:04):
Fantastic.

>> Julianna (35:05):
The love for W Pop, that continues. And it's
a suds five.

>> (35:11):
Really great beer.

>> Julianna (35:12):
Now, the next one I got
purely based on the can.

>> Kendall (35:20):
Trial by Wombat.

>> (35:22):
That chops my can art.

>> Dave (35:23):
Okay, we've all done it.
We've all done it.

>> Julianna (35:27):
No, this one I did. I. I mean, how
could you not? So what we're talking
about next is Thin Man Brewing
Company from Buffalo, New York. Their Wombat
Galaxy ipa, brewed by a.

>> Dave (35:41):
Not so Thin Man.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. Um, really, uh, great guys.
Uh, the Thin man folks are just
genuinely very, very lovely people.

>> Julianna (35:51):
Yeah, they got a really nice place in downtown Buffalo.

>> Dave (35:54):
Digging this beer, man.

>> Julianna (35:55):
I've been there a few times. It's, um. It's
nice. I mean, it's like they. I think they kind of
helped revitalize a section of Buffalo
there.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. Like, I've. I bought this beer at Wegmans
a number of times, man.

>> Dave (36:10):
It's just Wegmans.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's there. If, uh. If
Thin man, uh, this is. Maybe. This would,
I guess, would be their flagship ipa, I would guess, because I see it out.
If I'm up there, I see it out a lot.

>> (36:24):
I don't know. Uh. There seems to be something
missing. I can't quite put my finger on
it. It's like, in the finish,
there's just. There's, like, something missing there.

>> Dave (36:34):
It's a good beer.

>> (36:35):
Don't get me wrong.

>> Kendall (36:36):
It's a good beer, but it's. I agree with you, Mike. It's
not great. There's nothing.

>> (36:40):
There's, like, somebody missing.

>> Kendall (36:42):
Yeah. There's no real personality to it that goes. This is different from
every other hazy I've had. It's like. No, it's pretty much the same.

>> Julianna (36:47):
M. Is it.

>> (36:49):
There's a. A slight citrus
overtone, but it's the bitterness off this that's
just. I don't know. There's something there that's missing,
seeing.

>> Julianna (36:57):
I'm not getting that at all. I'm getting, like,
pineapple. Like, vanilla pineapple
creaminess.

>> (37:03):
M.

>> Julianna (37:07):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You know, I don't know this, but.
I'm not mad about it because, like, this is. I mean, like, the
flavor profile is, thank God, a little different
than the.

>> Dave (37:16):
Normal, I think, like, if you're like, carl's not a hazy
guy, but so you have to lean in
to what this is first off to. To say, you
know, like, whether you're. You're gonna like it or not.
And, you know, if it's not your style, it's like me
drinking a saison. I can tell you if a saison,
if I think it's well made, I may not like it as much as

(37:36):
other people who really lean into that style.

>> Julianna (37:39):
Sure.

>> Dave (37:39):
But, like, I. I'm. I enjoy this. I would drink
the whole can.

>> Kendall (37:43):
I mean, I would drink a pint of this. I just don't know if I
would ever have more than one.

>> (37:47):
Yeah.

>> Dave (37:48):
I might not do two, you know.

>> (37:49):
Because I'd be one and done.

>> Dave (37:50):
I don't think that style
lends itself to, like, I'm just going to pound these all day.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. I think this beer for me. I think if
you're, you know, you always want a guy on
your golf scramble, that it may not be the
longest drive, but it's always right in the middle of the fairway.

>> (38:06):
Yeah, I agree. That's what this is for.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Sure. This is really. I don't know. I think it's just.
Yeah, it's a good, solid stripe right down there, right in the middle.
I do, Carl. Yeah.

>> Julianna (38:16):
Okay. So the Wombat.
The Trial by Wombat Galaxy IPA from
Thin Man Brewery in Buffalo. We are going
to rate a 3.

>> (38:28):
Yeah, I think that that's definitely one of those beers that,
you know, you would, like, flip open a cooler
at a beer share and go,
m. Yeah, I don't want that one. That. That's
solid. I'll have that all day long. Yeah.

>> Julianna (38:42):
Yeah. Cool.
Okay, so the next one that
we are going to talk about is, uh. I know this isn't.
This one's going to be tough for you guys to drink, but
this is the Willamette Valley Double
ipa.

>> Dave (38:56):
Will Lamit.

>> Julianna (38:57):
Willamette.
Willamette. Okay, now
I sound like I should be in Boston.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: This seems to be the haziest of all of them. Just from
a visual inspection, it is
trillium. For all of you
listening at home, that can see, it's very
hazy, opaque.

(39:19):
Yeah, it's very.

>> Kendall (39:20):
But I kind of like it.

>> Julianna (39:22):
So this one is, um, 8%
ABV.

>> (39:26):
So what's the Willamette
connection here? I would think that that's been dropped in a wine barrel
of some kind. And. Or I love their chardonnay
barrel, you.

>> Kendall (39:35):
Know, finished beers or topped with
exclusively hops from the Willamette Valley.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Is that.

>> Dave (39:40):
It's on the can. There's some.

>> (39:42):
So it's a hop profile from Willamette.

>> Dave (39:45):
Mike, what is. What does that say right there?

>> (39:48):
Uh, it says Coleman.

>> Julianna (39:49):
Well, it says garage project.
Aero Street.

>> (39:54):
It's a Willamette hop.

>> Dave (39:56):
Coleman farm.

>> (39:57):
Yeah, yeah.

>> Kendall (39:58):
So they've, they've contracted a special batch of hops
that they put in because it's dank,
like. Yeah, this is, yeah. Uh, because if, if I
hear lamb at Valley Hops, I'm thinking the old
seahops. That was my first thought. And yeah, you
do get some of that dankness out of this.

>> (40:14):
This is super funky, super sweet.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Well, and Willamette is kind of more of a
noble hop style. Right.

>> Kendall (40:22):
Like I was with the actual Willamette hop. Yeah, it was
derived, I think from Fuggle
maybe.

>> Julianna (40:29):
Let's see, um, Willamette Valley is a new
collab with garage project from Wellington, New
Zealand, in the tradition of previous collaborations like
Sunrise Valley. And it's a Valley series
that, uh, Trillium does. It's brewed
to showcase select hops that reflect the unique terroir
of the growing region. This new release showcases

(40:49):
a blend of Strata Audacia, uh, and
Luminosa hops from the Alluvial
Hop Farm in Independence, Oregon.
So it's, it's kind of passion fruity.
Pomegranate and peach mango
lemonade.

>> (41:04):
It's like an ambrosia salad that has been left out in the
sun for four days. Oh my God.

>> Julianna (41:11):
Tell me how you really feel somebody.

>> Dave (41:13):
Left in the back of their car.

>> (41:14):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's it. I mean, I
just, I'm sorry, but it just, it tastes like a muddled
mess that's just not really working. You know, at the end
of the.

>> Dave (41:23):
Day, sometimes multi hop beers,
it just feels like, why didn't you stop
at one or two hops and just let it
do its thing?

>> (41:32):
If you, if you did this on a pilot system, I would have said
don't ever scale this up. I,
I, I would have said stop right there.

>> Kendall (41:41):
The more I drink.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: You're so harsh.
Yeah, I don't think I could do much of this. Of course it's
a, it's, you can almost sense the alcohol in it.

>> Dave (41:48):
It's a small, poor beer.

>> Julianna (41:50):
Yeah, that I, I will say. Yeah, it's heavy,
but like I get a really nice peach out of it. I
mean, I don't know if that's what the whole intent
from these hops were.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, it's got that peach ring kind of candy.
Peach.
Mhm.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: But yeah, again, I'm,
I'm not much crazy consumer.

>> (42:10):
Yeah, there's no way
anybody would make a second batch of this.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Well, and honestly, I think it would.
This is certainly something that would be poured in a 10 ounce glass.
Right. Like this isn't Something you're going to be drinking a pint of.
Um, maybe even eight.

>> Kendall (42:25):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, maybe even eight. Ah. So, yeah,
I don't know. I. I'm in the crushable beer business,
and I like, not
just calling back to Wombat, but, like, I could crush
Wombat. That one would be difficult to do that.

>> (42:39):
Yep. I agree.

>> Julianna (42:40):
It's fair.
Okay, so we are going to rate the
Willamette. Willamette Valley double
IPA from Trillium
A3.

>> Dave (42:51):
Wow. How many trillion beers have we.

>> (42:53):
Any of the people in Oregon laughing at us all day while
I. Yeah.

>> Julianna (42:58):
Okay, so let's now move
to. Back to Pennsylvania.

>> (43:03):
A good beer.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Oh, my God.

>> Dave (43:07):
Oo eat that trillium, man.

>> Julianna (43:10):
Yeah, right.

>> Dave (43:12):
Never going to be allowed back into.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Just, like, dishing m out the insults like it's a, uh,
dishon. Just like piling
grits on my plate.
You know what? You know who's coming.

>> (43:23):
Carl and I have never been paired up at a beer
competition.

>> Dave (43:26):
I don't. Kendall and I. I think there's a reason for that. I
don't.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: He would just destroy it.
Is there a way where nobody wins this category?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Absolutely.
Can we do that?

>> (43:37):
No. All can be winners. I'm sorry. You know, I
just.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: When Kendall and I judged that Humber competition, that was one of the things I
said. I was like, I mean, is there a way that no one wins?

>> Dave (43:45):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: And we just get to make the prize.

>> (43:47):
Here is a table water the winner, because
it should be.

>> Julianna (43:51):
Wow.
Okay, Next thing that we're going to talk about is from
Feglies Brew Works in Allentown,
uh, Pennsylvania.
Yes, it's called the Hop Explosion
IPA. This one is 7%
ABV. It's a West coast style IPA
with Citra and Chanel.

>> (44:11):
This is borderline barley wine.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I just want to let y'all know that I'm breaking one of the Black
Abbey rules of engagement by drinking this.
We have. We have a rule that we're not allowed. No, we're
not allowed to drink anything called or eat anything called
explosion.

>> Julianna (44:25):
Oh.

>> Dave (44:25):
Oh, yeah. Fair.

>> (44:27):
Wow.

>> Julianna (44:27):
Wow.

>> (44:27):
What part of the HR manual is that in?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Well, when you write it, you can put it in whatever part you
want. Yeah, no, I had, uh. I had something at
Chili's one time called a fajita explosion.
That elicited that rule did not end well.

>> Julianna (44:41):
Can't imagine. Imagine why.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, so I just. I just want to. I just want to let
the listening audience know that we're breaking clean up
fermenter 14, one of the black Abby
rules. Don't eat anything called explosion.

>> Dave (44:55):
They had to shut down the men's room for a week and a half
after that.

>> Julianna (45:02):
Okie.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: All right, so what's the. What's the package date
on this?

>> (45:07):
Yeah, it's.

>> Kendall (45:09):
Yeah, I'm not getting a lot of hops for something called hop
explosion. I'm a little flexed.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah, I'm starting to get that, like, back end caramel.
Yeah, yeah. I'm getting a lot of caramel malt.

>> (45:19):
It died in the can.

>> Julianna (45:20):
Um, it just says batch 184,
738.

>> (45:23):
It died, uh, like, about five months ago.

>> Julianna (45:25):
Huh.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I mean, I. I
can. I can.

>> (45:32):
I can trade.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I can believe, like. Like. No, I can
believe that there was something there at some point.
I think it' some age on it.

>> Kendall (45:41):
It feels very faded out.

>> (45:42):
Yep.

>> Kendall (45:43):
Because I would expect way more bitterness for a West coast
ipa, and this just doesn't have it. It's a caramel bomb.

>> (45:49):
It's a pedestrian at best.

>> Julianna (45:52):
Yeah. So it like it. It has the remnants of what might
have been a nice Westie.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's got a good ebf, though.

>> (45:58):
I think I'm going to, you know, give it
that. You know, those fingers there, so.

>> Julianna (46:05):
Those special fingers.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: EBF stands for excellent, uh, burp
flavor. So try
to rate beers based on the EBF scale.

>> (46:15):
That sounds like a Dave thing.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. So, like, just now, I, like. I tried some of that.
I got that, like, nice cascade hop burp.
Uh, so I could, like, I say I could. I could feel
that it's there. It's
like.

>> Dave (46:29):
It works, right?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: The EPF scale is real.
Yeah.

>> Julianna (46:32):
Okay.

>> (46:33):
That's what I love about this show. It's only. Only place where you could
belch in. There's a lot of learning into the, uh. In. Everybody
goes, oh, yeah, they're there. They're really
actually drinking. Yes, we really are drinking.
I like this.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Right? It's better than the fart scale.
Yeah, well, you know, that could happen.

>> Dave (46:49):
That's on the chili show.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah. Or the.

>> (46:51):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Or the Sour show.
Yeah. That collab came around again, so.

>> Julianna (46:55):
Oh, boy. Okay, so the
Feglies hop explosion. Sadly, it's
not that much of a hop explosion, and we are going to rate
it a 2.

>> Dave (47:05):
Send us a fresh batch, and we.

>> (47:07):
Export that to Canada promptly.

>> Julianna (47:10):
Now, for something completely different, let's go
to a Italian pilsner from Jack
Sabry. Sorry. Jack Sabi called Bella
last Stallion P you had.

>> (47:20):
I know which one I had.

>> Kendall (47:21):
I know. Same one.

>> (47:22):
I know exactly which one. Here.

>> Kendall (47:23):
Same one. I just had one. Uh, A couple days ago, I had one left.

>> (47:26):
So, Sounder, um, uh, makes this
really good Italian pilsner that, uh, Kendall and
I've had. Um.

>> Dave (47:36):
Good job, Mike.

>> Julianna (47:37):
Yeah, thank you.

>> (47:38):
What did I say? Sounder? I'm sorry.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I hardly even know her.
Yeah.

>> Dave (47:41):
Whoa.

>> (47:42):
I like.

>> Kendall (47:42):
You know what?

>> Dave (47:43):
I'm sorry.

>> (47:43):
Just. Sorry.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: It's just like, right there.

>> Julianna (47:46):
So the Italian translation of this name is
Beautiful Lake, which captures the inspiration for this Italian
style pilsner. Dry hopped with a blend of noble and
American hops. It is bright, hoppy, and assertive
with a dry finish. 4.7% ABV.

>> (48:00):
Too sweet.

>> Kendall (48:01):
Yeah, I like it, but it's not as good as others I've had, but it's still
an enjoyable beer. I would crush a few of these.

>> Dave (48:06):
You're going to send them a C and D on this, too?

>> (48:08):
Sweet.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: I didn't. I didn't get the, like, bright,
hoppy. Right piece. But, I mean,
it's a very easy drinkable beer.

>> Dave (48:16):
If you just called it a pilsner, I think it would be a lot
better.

>> Kendall (48:19):
It's.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Yeah.
Crushable lager.

>> Julianna (48:21):
We are going to rate this a
3M.

>> (48:29):
Interesting fight there, JB.

>> Dave (48:31):
Yeah, sure.

>> (48:33):
Yeah. So, uh, there were
a couple of winners in there. You know, all
the English barley wine all day long.

>> Julianna (48:41):
Very happy.

>> Kendall (48:42):
Yeah, that's strange. Do we say that
right?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Okay, well, I didn't really hate any of
them, but I do think the West Coast IPA was.

>> Dave (48:52):
I did not hate your beers, but I did not like.

>> Julianna (48:55):
Exactly. Well, you know what? When you have five minutes, you
can't pick a lot. Well, that's going to do it for today. Good old
boy Kendall. Thanks so much for being here.

>> Kendall (49:03):
It was a pleasure. Thank you.

>> Julianna (49:04):
Please tell us about your blog.

>> Kendall (49:05):
A beautiful wife and I blog about the good news of good
beer@beermakes3.com.

>> Julianna (49:09):
Good old boy Carl. Thanks for being here.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Glad to be here.
And what is your day job again?
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Uh, I work for Black Abbey Brewing Company in
Nashville. And you can follow
us@blackabybrewing.com he's had
janitor.

>> (49:22):
Yeah.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: Wash the kegs.

>> Dave (49:23):
You can also follow Black Abbey parking lot.
>> Carl The transcript includes several speakers, including Julian: That's also true. Or you can follow me in my side
gig. D.J. dad's been drinking. Uh, uh,
yeah, on Instagram.

>> Kendall (49:34):
I can. I can vouch.

>> Julianna (49:36):
Good old boy Mike. Hey.

>> (49:37):
Yeah, uh, come back. Enjoy another exciting episode of Sip Suds and
Smokes. I'll ask you to keep on sipping.

>> Julianna (49:42):
Good old boy Dave.

>> (49:43):
I like this.

>> Dave (49:44):
Yeah, me too, Mike. Thanks.

>> Julianna (49:46):
All right. This goodle gal Juliana. Keep
on chuggling.

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