July 7, 2021 • 35 mins
We first discussed Dry Eyes back in November of 2018 and touched on it here and there on other episodes. We wanted to update this by discussing what we have been doing to keep the eyes moist.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
We are neither a nutritionist or medical providers. The topics
discussed on this show are from our own research and experiences.
Please consult your medical provider before attempting anything discussed on
this show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to another episode of Shogrin Strong.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I keep missing the cute. This is Lupe.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know. It's only our what eighty ninety fifth episode?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I know, but live this is our fourth episode.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So yeah, yeah, friends, you got the video those cameras
staring at us, So.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, Welcome to another episode of show We're and Strong.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm Brian and I'm Lupe, and this is your podcast
discussing how to live an active and healthy lifestyle despite
a diagnosis of show grains.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hi, everybody, Happy home day.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's Wednesday, already, believe it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Today. I decided to wear white because I I was
looking at the episode from last week and everything was dark.
If we're wearing black and we just looked like bubbleheads,
it was a funny. It's funny. Anyways, Hi, everybody. Today,
we're actually gonna talk about dry eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
There we are, and it's typically one of the first
symptoms that people experience when they're dealing with sugrins. So
so it's also dry Awareness month.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You know what, that's funny that you say that because
I didn't know that, but I was scrolling through my
feed or not like that. How anyways, I was going
through my feed and every other post was about dry eyes,
and I'm like, shoot, so perfect, perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Then the light bubble went off and two and tudor
equaled four and perfect timing.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well the episode was planned already, but it totally worked out.
So dry eyes? What's dry eyes?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Dry eyes? What are the primary causes is the damage
to the tear ducts. Therefore we can't produce tear, which
is what moisturizes the eye. So now we have dry
eye to deal with.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And a lot of people suffer from dry eyes, whether
you have chogrins or not, a lot of people suffer
from it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So yeah, that to do. It can be attributed to
other things as well. I mean, you know, living in
the desert, you probably have dry eye, okay, because it's
the desert.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
If it's windy, you have dry eyes. But it gets worse,
like if you have schogrins, and if you have chronic
dye dry eyes, weather and wind and everything it just
makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
If you're skiing.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Try I've never been skiing. But moving on. So for
dry eyes, Let's see, when I didn't know I had
dry eyes until the doctor told me. I went to
an optalmologist. Well, my rheumatologist asked me, do you when
you know when I was diagnosed, do you have dry eyes?
And I said, I don't think so, because how do
(03:09):
I know what it feels like not to have dry eyes?
Because I don't know how long I've had dry eyes?
So I said, no, I don't think so. So you know,
he sent me to an ophthalmologist, and the ophtalmologist they
stick this little piece of paper. I don't know what
it's called, but a little piece of paper in your eye.
It doesn't hurt, and it tells him if you have
(03:32):
dry eyes or not. Do you know how that works?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Was there a dye? Added?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, I don't believe, he added to die. He just
stuck this little I don't know. Yeah, it looks like
tissue paper, and I guess maybe it didn't get wet.
So he's like, yep, you have dry eyes. So he
prescribed restasis, and so I started using that for several months.
(03:59):
He's said, I wasn't gonna feel relief for months, weeks,
possibly even months. So I started using that. And I
don't know if you told me or not, because I
don't remember, but I keep my restasis and every other
eye drop, I keep it in the fridge.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And yes, where the lettuce should go. We don't have lettuce.
We have restasis.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Wake up, Brian, Okay. So I keep it in the
fridge and obviously it keeps it cool. And when I
wake up in the morning, you know your eyes are crusty.
You go for your phone and you're like, I can't
read any of this right because your eyes are they're crusty,
they're shut. Everything is blurry, so I can't read my messages.
(04:48):
So I go straight to the refrigerator and I put
eye drops, a couple of eye drops in both eyes
for staces, and it just feels like heving. Guys. If
you guys don't do that, I recommend you to that.
It's just.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What are some of the other I drops you use?
I've used.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I like sustain, and I like refresh with Omega three, and.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
The Omega three the fish oils and oils being introduced
help with dryness as well. We actually give our dogs
a little olive oil with their food during the summer
to help with their skin so it doesn't dry out.
But the omegas are really good.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, so it helps. And you know what, for those
of you that are watching live or that we'll watch
or are watching on YouTube, I have a few props
that I wanted to show you guys that I use
that help me. And if you have questions, go ahead
and ask us. I have my phone right here so
I could see, but you.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Can come it live, yeah, Facebook or YouTube.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So first I wanted to show you I zoom in
my Zenna eyeglasses right and when you put them on,
I mean, you know, they look okay, uh, they they
probably look thick, but they're really not thick. They're they're
not thick. They're just like my regular glasses. But the
(06:18):
difference here is that they're kind of curved and it
has this little silicone thing of a bobber that goes
around the frame and when you put them on it
it it keeps moisture inside. So I like, when I'm
gonna wear them, if it's really dry, if it's windy,
(06:40):
if my eyes just hurt, I use these. And but
before I put them on, I put a couple of
eye drops in and the glasses start fogging up, so
I know that it's working and it's instant relief. I
recommend that you if you can. This is really good.
These are by Zenna and Zienna. They also have a sportyline.
(07:05):
They something seven they do.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They actually make a very similar glass for motorcycle riders.
The really cool thing here is that silicone seal. It
really creates a tight seal between the frame and your head,
just trapping that moisture in, which is awesome. And as
you could see, actually, why don't you zoom back in
and go ahead and pull.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
The so oh yeah, so this is removable, right.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There's little magnets in it and magnets in the.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Frame, so it just kind of snaps right in right
and you could, like you know, clean it easily. And
actually this comes in uh, it comes in black and clear,
but I have both, but I don't know. I kind
of prefer these. And like I said, a lot of
people think that they're thick, but they're not really thick.
What they're looking at is this, right, But they're very comfy.
(07:57):
They have different sizes, different styles, different.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Shapes, and in reality, most people don't even realize there's a.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Seal there, right, right, But they're really comfy. I use
them when I go hiking because you know, we love
being hiking and outdoors, so it really helps a lot,
especially on wendy days or their dust and stuff like that.
So these are these are awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It was really cool. We went out to a Chogrin's
support group led by Susan Brahas and they had a
Xienna rep there with frames and you know, different the
different frames that they offer in the different color seals,
so you could actually try them on and kind of
get an idea of what you liked and wanted, and
(08:41):
then depending on your your the shape of your head
kind of determined what frames you could or couldn't use
if I remember.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Correctly, right, because you can't use I mean if you
have a bigger head or smaller than mine. I don't know.
These were perfect for me because they sealed around right,
but some it depends on your shape. They won't all
work for everybody, so right, right, so you definitely have
to try them on. Definitely Zienna Again, Daniel's great, his owner,
(09:11):
he's great, and I know that you could go to
a shop or you could go online and they have
this program like you you're in front of the camera
and stuff, and I don't know the camera takes pictures.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They take some pictures of your head and will recommend
frames and then send them out to you with no lens,
nothing in them. You can try them on, make sure
you're getting a good fit, and then you purchase them.
And then they can either make lenses for you prescription
or clear, and or you can then get the frames
with no lenses in them and take them to your
local optometrist to get lenses made.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Absolutely you can do that, and like I said, they
work great.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I know she's hurting when she's sitting in a recliner
with those on. I know her eyes are really really dry,
and it's it's been a great product.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For They're awesome. I highly recommend them. They could get
a little bit pricey, especially like for me for example,
obviously it depends on the frame, which frame you get,
how much they cost. But I like getting progressives and transitions,
and you know all that is extra and extra extra,
so you know, they can't get pretty pricey, but so
(10:27):
can these, right, so can regular ones. But I highly
highly recommend these. And this this episode is not sponsored
by any means. I'm just sharing what works for me
because that's how I roll. I want to help. But
I also wanted to show you a pair that before
I got these Vienna ones. I actually I was. I
(10:51):
was looking at sunglasses at Walmart or Target. I don't remember,
probably Target, but anyways, I don't remember. It was the
Walmart or Target, and I found these glasses. There are sunglasses,
and they're similar, except these have foam and you know,
they're stuck so you can't remove them. But these also
(11:12):
work great. I bought these before I you know, I
knew about Zenna, and I like the Terminator, but these
were great, and I think I paid twenty dollars for them. So,
but I use glasses so and I don't wear contacts anymore.
I bought these when I wore contacts. But obviously, you know,
since I don't want contexts, everything is kind of blurry,
(11:35):
if you know, if I'm driving or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But prescription these were great.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But they also have these. I think I've seen him at.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You can get a very similar frame. It's typically a
sport frame with a foam insert. Prescriptions made at pretty
much every eye shop.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, they are awesome I also want there to share.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well she's looking at that. Thank you Brenda for chiming
in and Washington, you guys have been warm lately, so
hope things are cooling down for you.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I definitely cannot read the screen. That's why I have
my phone. You have really good eyes. I could only
see the screen if I were my glasses. But anyways, anyways,
not here nor there. But also what I wanted to
show you guys is this cue dry eye compress. Right.
I said that right because I always get that word wrong.
(12:35):
But how this works is you could use this when
you're laying down right, or they have this little local strap.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Definitely don't use while driving, so that's.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
How they work, but you have to. They have like
these beans.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, and you put it in the microwave, warm it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Up, put it in the microwave twenty to thirty seconds.
I actually don't recommend more than twenty because they get
it gets really hot. And it's really funny because I
was about to cut off this tag and it actually
these are instructions, so don't cut it off, okay, just
if you forget how to use it, just the instructions here.
(13:18):
But I got these at I bought these from Amazon,
and god, I want to say they were like maybe
twenty five dollars and they work great. Put them in
the microwave twenty seconds or you know, if you put
them in for twenty seconds and they're they're too hot,
just kind of let them cool down and put them
over your eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And chill.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, definitely chill for as long as you can, and
it starts loosening oils in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, So it's kind of a cool purpose that warmth
is soothing and helps evaporate what moisture there is, and
they do moisten your eyes. Plus, if you're suffering from
blepharitis to where oils have clogged the tear ducts, this
will help loosen those oils and provide some relief there
(14:11):
as well.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And you know what, guys, if you were makeup, remove
your makeup because look, Jennette, can you use them in
on this? It has a makeup. I don't know if
you could see it, but my muscara and my eyeliner,
you know. So anyways, take off your makeup because then
it's dirty, but you can wash it. But you know, anyways,
so Lesson learns again Amazon about twenty five dollars, I think,
(14:35):
and again not sponsored not sponsored by this, so.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes cool and uh, you know, I think one of
the biggest things that's helped with dry eyes. You know,
it's funny. If I wake up and my eyes are dry,
I know she's going to be hurting. And if it's
a weekend to where we're going to be home for
a little while, I'll actually grab the big lobster pot
and put it on the stove with water and just
to get some moist you're into the air. When we're
(15:02):
really bad, we'll throw the towel overhead over the pot
and just let that steam, you know, soak in and
loosen things up. But humidifiers, you know, we've talked about
we talk about humidifiers a lot, but we have one
in pretty much every room. You even have one on
your desk.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh my goodness, So let's talk about the ones at home.
I have a humidifier in every room. Hi, Susan Barrohause
you just chimed in. How you doing? You've used those before? Oh?
Oh is this? Are these the ones you've used before?
These are great? But going back to the humidifier, I
(15:42):
have one in every room and I don't know, I've
had them for years, right, so they're they're old, so
they're I think it was they were like thirty dollars,
but a couple of months ago, I want to say,
maybe in January, we were at Costco just browsing and
we saw this humidifier with dual tanks, and what did
(16:04):
I say to gallons?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, it's a gallon purchase.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's a gallon each. But it's really cool. And you
know what I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up a post
because I don't want to miss missed this. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They've got a few settings and one of the cool
things I like about this humidifier it actually has an
essential oils tray in the back of it, and you know,
we'll put cinnamon or you know something in it. And
why the mist is hit in the air. You know,
we're we're getting a little smell good too.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Uh. The humidifier was seventy nine seventy nine ninety nine.
I believe it was Home Home Medics that was the brand.
It has a cool and warm missed dual tanks two
gallon capacity. You can run it for twelve hours straight
depending on the setting, auto shutoff timer, and it said
(17:01):
that the warm mist kills up to ninety nine point
ninety nine percent of bacteria, so it's it's really good.
And for those of you that have trouble sleeping, I
run the humidifier and it helps me sleep.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So yeah, it's actually a pretty cool humidifier. And I
mean the other one we might you know, if we're
running it eight hours, we'd have to fill it a
couple of times. This one we probably fill it once
a week. Yeah, it's doing really well.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And it doesn't matter what kind of humidifier you get,
but I highly recommend that you get one and run it.
And I also bought a personal one. It's about this size.
It's round hard, Oh yeah, like a heart, but I'm
not doing the heart. And I keep it at my
(17:52):
desk and it helps me in the office, you know,
with the dice is running and stuff, So it really
helps me. And I noticed that it was getting clogged
up or it wasn't working the way that it should
be working. So I brought it home asked trying to
clean it. He's a sweetheart, cleaned it, cleaned it for me.
(18:13):
He put a new filter in it, and I started
using distilled water and it works great. It has a
lot of power. And it's funny because I was running
it and I walked away from my desk for like
fifteen twenty minutes, and when I came back, my keyboard
was wet, my desk was wet where I keep it,
(18:34):
And I'm like, where's that coming from? Yeah, And I
didn't realize that my body was absorbing all that moisture
in yeah, because when I'm when I'm sitting on my desk,
that doesn't happen. It's just I walk away for ten
fifteen minutes and yeah. So it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And one thing she started doing there and we're going
to start doing at home is running distilled water in it.
Just they don't get dirty as fast. And that was
the biggest problem with some of the humidifiers we've had.
We're running tap water, and you know, all the hard
particles in that water clog up the heating element and
then it doesn't work as well and it's like cemented
(19:14):
to it. So we soak them in you know, vinegar
or lemon juice to help the you know, the acids
break it up and chisel it away, and it's just
not fun.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And if you do use tap water, you definitely have
to take it apart clean it because it has, like
you said, the cemented right we have, you almost have
to use like a hammer and chisel. Yeah, it was bad.
It was really really bad.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yep. So distilled water helps that, it helps keep it.
It actually produces a little more moisture and doesn't get
as dirty, so it's a big help.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So highly recommend it again. The Little One Amazon, twenty
twenty five dollars. I'll actually have a couple. I have one,
I have one at work. I actually want to bring
one into the studio because I'm coming almost every day
to the studio, and I have one at my home office.
So they are awesome. Highly recommend And what else here
(20:11):
is on the list? Plugs Hunt do plugs. I don't
have any experience with them. I know they've worked for
a lot of people and a lot of people that
I've spoken to over the years they've used them, but
I don't know, can you talk about it? Do you
know anything about them?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean the people we've talked to. I know
sizing them can be an issue, so you might have to,
you know, go back to get a larger one because
it fell out. It seems like the people who have
gotten them love them. They seem to do a really,
really good job. I don't know if I could. I'm
(20:48):
not a good patient, first of all. And when it
comes to my eyes and the whole puff of air
getting close to my eyeball, I just contact. Never happened
with me.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Never this guy. He says that I'm not a good patient,
and he's not a good patient. He doesn't go to
the doctor, he doesn't go to the dentist, so it's him.
But but you know the people that I've spoken to,
you know, via Instagram, Facebook messages, that have chiogrins. I
guess they have different sizes and if you get them
(21:22):
too big they pop out. Or also you could get
your tear ducts cauterized.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yep, they do characterize them as well, which would have
the same effect as a punktal plug, but you can't
really reverse the carterization.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So there are several options. I'm definitely. When I mentioned
it to my optalmologists, he said my eyes like, I
wasn't there yet. You know, my dry eyes weren't that severe,
so even though I feel they are, but apparently not
so lucky me. But I don't know, so like I said,
I can't talk about personal experience because I don't know,
(21:54):
but those are options.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, one thing you can talk personally about is your
itchy eye makeup wiki wiki wiki.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That's me scratching my eye. Oh oh, somebody chimed in.
I've had the punktal plugs, but they don't stay in
for me. Yeah. See a lot of people have said that,
so thanks for commenting. Kim. Appreciate that. When my eyes
get itchy, because you know, when you have dry eyes,
(22:24):
they feel itchy like you have sand in them, very
sensitive to light. When I didn't know I had dry eyes,
I became really sensitive to light and I feel like
I had to wear my sung glasses inside because they
were awful but itchy. Every so often, my eyes start itching,
(22:47):
and I think that maybe it's the the eye drops
that I'm using, the restasis, you know, because as soon
as I put them in, my eyes start itching, and
I think sometimes they do expire, even though they say
that they you know, they last forever. But when my
eyes do start feeling itchy and just irritated, I do
I throw the I throw away the ones that I have,
(23:11):
and but makeup. I replace my makeup, not all the time, right,
because it's expensive. But if my eyes start itching and
becoming very sensitive, I replace all my makeup, starting with
my eyes, with my eye makeup, and that's helped.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, the part of the problem goes away. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah. Or sometimes you become allergic to detergents that you're using.
So I mean, just because you've been using something for
a long time, eventually you become allergic to it. Because
I used to wear I used to wear what you
might call it liquid liner, and I became allergic to it.
I had to stop wearing it, so I started wearing
pencil eyeliner. So also, you guys know what I did, Jenny,
(23:58):
I can use zoom in I'm my f not that
you could really tell, but you're coming off. Oh, not
that you could really tell, thanks Brian. But I actually
got my eyeliner tattooed, and I love it. It was
it was a really good decision for me. Okay about
you can't really tell.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Me, but I was concerned about her doing this because
we know with chogrin's healing can be you know, difficult,
it can take a long time, and you know she'll
get a cut or scrape and it'll take three months
to heal, and she's telling me she wants to get
her eyes tattooed, and I'm like, okay, I get it.
(24:43):
I understand less makeup, less eye irritation, less itchiness. However,
you know, it is a burn, and fortunately she healed
really really well.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Awesome, guys. I have two sisters. I'm going to out
them because I don't know if anybody knows, but I
have two sisters. My oldest sister she got it and
I didn't know for many years that she had it.
And then another sister she got her eyeliner tattooed. And
one day I saw her and I was like, man,
your I makeup looks great, and she's like, oh, thanks,
I've been it's a new eyeliner that I've been using.
(25:19):
And so and I went out and I bought and
hold on, i'll read that. And I bought the eyeliner
that she recommended, and guess what I find out a
few months later it was actually tattooed. So I thought
long and hard about it, and finally I decided to
(25:39):
get it done. And you know what, guys, it's I
was really nervous about it because again I didn't know
how it was gonna heal, but I healed great and
best decision I've ever made. And since I stopped wearing eyeliner,
my eyes don't bother me as much. I mean they
irritate me a little bit, but not as much so.
And actually I have a showy friends. She lives in Washington,
(26:03):
and she had it done because you know, I had
a good experience and she loves it. So I mean,
it's up to you, but it's it was a great
decision for me.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Which was really cool. Go ahead and throw that comment
up there, Jeanetty, So.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
If it's okay. My eye doctor swapped my restaces with zydrud.
I don't know how to say that word. I also
used a refreshed liquid gel as needed too daily. But
I found that both prescriptions did burn at first. Did
the tattoo liner hurt? So a couple of things. The
restaces does burn at first, I'm gonna say for a
(26:42):
couple of weeks, maybe maybe even months, and it does burn,
But after a while, your eyes and your body get
used to it, so it'll stop burning. I promise it'll
stop burning. But then if you stop using it, I
don't know. For a couple of weeks and then you
go back to it, it's gonna it's gonna burn again.
I don't have that's for stasis. I don't have experience
(27:05):
with the other one, but it probably works the same way.
And regarding the eyeliner tattoo, did it hurt it?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Did they numb it?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh? Yes, yes, they numb it with the Q tip
the top and the bottom, and you know, you walk in,
they numb it. I don't know about twenty minutes before
they start, and then they numb it again while they're
prepping the needle and everything. But this lady did an
awesome job. If anybody's local to southern California, I don't know.
(27:42):
If you guys want to get it, i'll give you
her info. But it does. I'm not gonna say it burns,
but I mean it is a needle, right, and it's
close to your eyes, so you don't want to move.
But it did hurt a little, but it wasn't so bad.
The lady she was very experienced, so and the line
is really right. Great job. You know what I thought
(28:03):
about it, because of course I took to the internet,
right and I saw all these botched jobs. But it
was great Susan says that she uses guys. I'm sorry,
I don't know how to say that name Zydra. And
it does burn, but if you refrigerated, it burns less.
(28:24):
There you have it, It burns less, and it's awesome.
It feels really good in your eyes. It's really cooling. Yeah,
really refreshing. That's the word I want to use.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Do.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I see a lot of comments up there, They're not
popping on my I.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Think we've addressed the majority of them. If we missed you,
we apologize. Thank you guys for the comments. That is awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I think I've responded to all of them.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
But and if she didn't, I'm sure she will later.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, if you have questions, I'm pretty sure I did
almost one hundred percent. If I didn't, I'll definitely chime
in later if you have any questions.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
And first and foremost, I kind of want to throw
a little disclaimer out there. We've talked about a lot
of products that Lupe has used. This is not a
sponsored episode. These are just things that we've found and
she's found work really well for her, and you know,
sharing that information is uh, you know, might be helpful
for some Now you know these are all experiences. She's
(29:19):
head with these products, so you know, do your research,
don't get other opinions.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, definitely, because what works for some people doesn't work
for others. So a lot of people just joined in.
So I want to show you. I just kind of
want to recap because I think we're pretty much done, right,
we are, We can recap real quick, so I just
kind of recap really quick and show you the product.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
She's like a QVC person.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Now see Anna glasses right that have this removable silicone seal.
And we went to a sugar support group with Susan
Barajas and that's where I found out about this company.
They were great.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And then one other thing. We did an episode with
Daniel the owner a while back. So if you go
to Sugrinstrong dot com and search Zenna, it'll pop right
to the top and you can learn more about him,
the company, the glasses, and where you can get you know,
hooked up with them.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah. So these here and again they come in many
shapes and sizes and all that good stuff. And I
also have these sunglasses and I bought these at Walmart
or Target and they were about twenty dollars. So I'm
pretty sure you could still find these.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
And they have a pham seal.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yes, they have a phone. The phone is not removable.
It's stuck right, so you know you're gonna have to
clean it, but you can't remove it. So anyways, these
are pretty cool too. Twenty bucks and the dry eye
compress and you stick it in the microwave for about
(31:05):
twenty seconds, no longer than that. And if it's too
hot when you know, when you put it on your eyes,
just kind of remove it and let it cool down
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And don't cut the tag because those are the instructions.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I was about to cut off the tag and I
started reading it and I was like, well, those are all
the instructions because I was going to look it up
how to use it again, you know, because I don't
use it all the time, because you know what, honestly,
I get home, I'm tired, you know, I turn on
a humidifire, But when my eyes feel really really dry
and I'm watching TV, I put on my Xana glasses
or you know, use the compress, keep it on your
(31:42):
eyes for as long as you can, and you could
repeat a couple of times. I think so. But you
have to like everything, you have to use it constantly, right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And one last thing, and I meant to bring it
in to discuss it a little more detail, but we'll
do a post on it this week. The foundation just
announced today, I think it was, that they're doing a
dry eye drug trial, if I'm not mistaken. So we'll
post on that with a link to it so you
(32:13):
can learn more about it and see if you're in
an area that has a doctor that's actually supporting the trial, yes,
and go from there.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And the humidifiers. I meant to bring the personal one
that's about this size that I keep at my desk,
and I didn't. I forgot, but I'll post on it.
I've done a post before. But anyways, humidifiers they work great.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So humidifiers rock. They make life so much better for
both of us.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, I mean, can you imagine if you feel dry?
How do you think I feel?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So? But anyways, I think that's all we got for
now regarding dry eyes. And I mean again, if you
have any many topics that you want us to talk about,
let us know. We'll do research on it and we'll
definitely do our best.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And if you're watching this on Facebook, or YouTube. We
appreciate that. And if you're listening, we appreciate you subscribing
to the show on your favorite podcast player, and maybe
you do both. You can listen while you're driving and
watch when you have time.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Absolutely, yeah, I find myself going back to the shows
ever since we've been you know, doing it live. I'm like, oh,
that's cool. So anyways, and anyways, remember, for those of
you that watched or listened to last week's episode, I
was really tired and dragging and I got sleep and
(33:45):
I feel great, a lot of energy. So I think,
you know, I had done too much and I rested
and I feel like I'm million bucks today. I think
Brian's the one that's dragging today.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
But anyways, I'm dragging today, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Take care of your eyes, do your research, use the
products that work for you.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And and share. Yeah, you have good experiences, bad experiences,
share with the group. Shogunstrong has a Facebook group that's private,
so you can find it on shogrin Strong page on Facebook,
and so many awesome people helping each other in there
with you know, questions and answers about you.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Name it so and it's a group community. The group sorry,
you're sorry. The group if you go into our Facebook
you can find the group that way, but the group private.
It's called Living Children Strong because that's what we do, right,
That's what we're doing. We're Living Children Strong. So that's that.
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That's a wrap.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Guys, appreciate it. If you don't follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,
we appreciate y'all. We will see you next week.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Thank you for being here and we appreciate you all.
And until next time, sip constantly and stay hydrated.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Guys, Thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Bye, hell m
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Please consult your medical provider before attempting anything discussed on
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to another episode of Shogrin Strong.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I keep missing the cute. This is Lupe.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know. It's only our what eighty ninety fifth episode?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I know, but live this is our fourth episode.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So yeah, yeah, friends, you got the video those cameras
staring at us, So.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, Welcome to another episode of show We're and Strong.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm Brian and I'm Lupe, and this is your podcast
discussing how to live an active and healthy lifestyle despite
a diagnosis of show grains.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hi, everybody, Happy home day.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's Wednesday, already, believe it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Today. I decided to wear white because I I was
looking at the episode from last week and everything was dark.
If we're wearing black and we just looked like bubbleheads,
it was a funny. It's funny. Anyways, Hi, everybody. Today,
we're actually gonna talk about dry eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
There we are, and it's typically one of the first
symptoms that people experience when they're dealing with sugrins. So
so it's also dry Awareness month.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You know what, that's funny that you say that because
I didn't know that, but I was scrolling through my
feed or not like that. How anyways, I was going
through my feed and every other post was about dry eyes,
and I'm like, shoot, so perfect, perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Then the light bubble went off and two and tudor
equaled four and perfect timing.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well the episode was planned already, but it totally worked out.
So dry eyes? What's dry eyes?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Dry eyes? What are the primary causes is the damage
to the tear ducts. Therefore we can't produce tear, which
is what moisturizes the eye. So now we have dry
eye to deal with.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And a lot of people suffer from dry eyes, whether
you have chogrins or not, a lot of people suffer
from it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So yeah, that to do. It can be attributed to
other things as well. I mean, you know, living in
the desert, you probably have dry eye, okay, because it's
the desert.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
If it's windy, you have dry eyes. But it gets worse,
like if you have schogrins, and if you have chronic
dye dry eyes, weather and wind and everything it just
makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
If you're skiing.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Try I've never been skiing. But moving on. So for
dry eyes, Let's see, when I didn't know I had
dry eyes until the doctor told me. I went to
an optalmologist. Well, my rheumatologist asked me, do you when
you know when I was diagnosed, do you have dry eyes?
And I said, I don't think so, because how do
(03:09):
I know what it feels like not to have dry eyes?
Because I don't know how long I've had dry eyes?
So I said, no, I don't think so. So you know,
he sent me to an ophthalmologist, and the ophtalmologist they
stick this little piece of paper. I don't know what
it's called, but a little piece of paper in your eye.
It doesn't hurt, and it tells him if you have
(03:32):
dry eyes or not. Do you know how that works?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Was there a dye? Added?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, I don't believe, he added to die. He just
stuck this little I don't know. Yeah, it looks like
tissue paper, and I guess maybe it didn't get wet.
So he's like, yep, you have dry eyes. So he
prescribed restasis, and so I started using that for several months.
(03:59):
He's said, I wasn't gonna feel relief for months, weeks,
possibly even months. So I started using that. And I
don't know if you told me or not, because I
don't remember, but I keep my restasis and every other
eye drop, I keep it in the fridge.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And yes, where the lettuce should go. We don't have lettuce.
We have restasis.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Wake up, Brian, Okay. So I keep it in the
fridge and obviously it keeps it cool. And when I
wake up in the morning, you know your eyes are crusty.
You go for your phone and you're like, I can't
read any of this right because your eyes are they're crusty,
they're shut. Everything is blurry, so I can't read my messages.
(04:48):
So I go straight to the refrigerator and I put
eye drops, a couple of eye drops in both eyes
for staces, and it just feels like heving. Guys. If
you guys don't do that, I recommend you to that.
It's just.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What are some of the other I drops you use?
I've used.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I like sustain, and I like refresh with Omega three, and.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
The Omega three the fish oils and oils being introduced
help with dryness as well. We actually give our dogs
a little olive oil with their food during the summer
to help with their skin so it doesn't dry out.
But the omegas are really good.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, so it helps. And you know what, for those
of you that are watching live or that we'll watch
or are watching on YouTube, I have a few props
that I wanted to show you guys that I use
that help me. And if you have questions, go ahead
and ask us. I have my phone right here so
I could see, but you.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Can come it live, yeah, Facebook or YouTube.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So first I wanted to show you I zoom in
my Zenna eyeglasses right and when you put them on,
I mean, you know, they look okay, uh, they they
probably look thick, but they're really not thick. They're they're
not thick. They're just like my regular glasses. But the
(06:18):
difference here is that they're kind of curved and it
has this little silicone thing of a bobber that goes
around the frame and when you put them on it
it it keeps moisture inside. So I like, when I'm
gonna wear them, if it's really dry, if it's windy,
(06:40):
if my eyes just hurt, I use these. And but
before I put them on, I put a couple of
eye drops in and the glasses start fogging up, so
I know that it's working and it's instant relief. I
recommend that you if you can. This is really good.
These are by Zenna and Zienna. They also have a sportyline.
(07:05):
They something seven they do.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They actually make a very similar glass for motorcycle riders.
The really cool thing here is that silicone seal. It
really creates a tight seal between the frame and your head,
just trapping that moisture in, which is awesome. And as
you could see, actually, why don't you zoom back in
and go ahead and pull.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
The so oh yeah, so this is removable, right.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There's little magnets in it and magnets in the.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Frame, so it just kind of snaps right in right
and you could, like you know, clean it easily. And
actually this comes in uh, it comes in black and clear,
but I have both, but I don't know. I kind
of prefer these. And like I said, a lot of
people think that they're thick, but they're not really thick.
What they're looking at is this, right, But they're very comfy.
(07:57):
They have different sizes, different styles, different.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Shapes, and in reality, most people don't even realize there's a.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Seal there, right, right, But they're really comfy. I use
them when I go hiking because you know, we love
being hiking and outdoors, so it really helps a lot,
especially on wendy days or their dust and stuff like that.
So these are these are awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It was really cool. We went out to a Chogrin's
support group led by Susan Brahas and they had a
Xienna rep there with frames and you know, different the
different frames that they offer in the different color seals,
so you could actually try them on and kind of
get an idea of what you liked and wanted, and
(08:41):
then depending on your your the shape of your head
kind of determined what frames you could or couldn't use
if I remember.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Correctly, right, because you can't use I mean if you
have a bigger head or smaller than mine. I don't know.
These were perfect for me because they sealed around right,
but some it depends on your shape. They won't all
work for everybody, so right, right, so you definitely have
to try them on. Definitely Zienna Again, Daniel's great, his owner,
(09:11):
he's great, and I know that you could go to
a shop or you could go online and they have
this program like you you're in front of the camera
and stuff, and I don't know the camera takes pictures.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They take some pictures of your head and will recommend
frames and then send them out to you with no lens,
nothing in them. You can try them on, make sure
you're getting a good fit, and then you purchase them.
And then they can either make lenses for you prescription
or clear, and or you can then get the frames
with no lenses in them and take them to your
local optometrist to get lenses made.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Absolutely you can do that, and like I said, they
work great.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I know she's hurting when she's sitting in a recliner
with those on. I know her eyes are really really dry,
and it's it's been a great product.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For They're awesome. I highly recommend them. They could get
a little bit pricey, especially like for me for example,
obviously it depends on the frame, which frame you get,
how much they cost. But I like getting progressives and transitions,
and you know all that is extra and extra extra,
so you know, they can't get pretty pricey, but so
(10:27):
can these, right, so can regular ones. But I highly
highly recommend these. And this this episode is not sponsored
by any means. I'm just sharing what works for me
because that's how I roll. I want to help. But
I also wanted to show you a pair that before
I got these Vienna ones. I actually I was. I
(10:51):
was looking at sunglasses at Walmart or Target. I don't remember,
probably Target, but anyways, I don't remember. It was the
Walmart or Target, and I found these glasses. There are sunglasses,
and they're similar, except these have foam and you know,
they're stuck so you can't remove them. But these also
(11:12):
work great. I bought these before I you know, I
knew about Zenna, and I like the Terminator, but these
were great, and I think I paid twenty dollars for them. So,
but I use glasses so and I don't wear contacts anymore.
I bought these when I wore contacts. But obviously, you know,
since I don't want contexts, everything is kind of blurry,
(11:35):
if you know, if I'm driving or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But prescription these were great.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But they also have these. I think I've seen him at.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You can get a very similar frame. It's typically a
sport frame with a foam insert. Prescriptions made at pretty
much every eye shop.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, they are awesome I also want there to share.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well she's looking at that. Thank you Brenda for chiming
in and Washington, you guys have been warm lately, so
hope things are cooling down for you.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I definitely cannot read the screen. That's why I have
my phone. You have really good eyes. I could only
see the screen if I were my glasses. But anyways, anyways,
not here nor there. But also what I wanted to
show you guys is this cue dry eye compress. Right.
I said that right because I always get that word wrong.
(12:35):
But how this works is you could use this when
you're laying down right, or they have this little local strap.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Definitely don't use while driving, so that's.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
How they work, but you have to. They have like
these beans.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, and you put it in the microwave, warm it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Up, put it in the microwave twenty to thirty seconds.
I actually don't recommend more than twenty because they get
it gets really hot. And it's really funny because I
was about to cut off this tag and it actually
these are instructions, so don't cut it off, okay, just
if you forget how to use it, just the instructions here.
(13:18):
But I got these at I bought these from Amazon,
and god, I want to say they were like maybe
twenty five dollars and they work great. Put them in
the microwave twenty seconds or you know, if you put
them in for twenty seconds and they're they're too hot,
just kind of let them cool down and put them
over your eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And chill.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, definitely chill for as long as you can, and
it starts loosening oils in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, So it's kind of a cool purpose that warmth
is soothing and helps evaporate what moisture there is, and
they do moisten your eyes. Plus, if you're suffering from
blepharitis to where oils have clogged the tear ducts, this
will help loosen those oils and provide some relief there
(14:11):
as well.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And you know what, guys, if you were makeup, remove
your makeup because look, Jennette, can you use them in
on this? It has a makeup. I don't know if
you could see it, but my muscara and my eyeliner,
you know. So anyways, take off your makeup because then
it's dirty, but you can wash it. But you know, anyways,
so Lesson learns again Amazon about twenty five dollars, I think,
(14:35):
and again not sponsored not sponsored by this, so.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes cool and uh, you know, I think one of
the biggest things that's helped with dry eyes. You know,
it's funny. If I wake up and my eyes are dry,
I know she's going to be hurting. And if it's
a weekend to where we're going to be home for
a little while, I'll actually grab the big lobster pot
and put it on the stove with water and just
to get some moist you're into the air. When we're
(15:02):
really bad, we'll throw the towel overhead over the pot
and just let that steam, you know, soak in and
loosen things up. But humidifiers, you know, we've talked about
we talk about humidifiers a lot, but we have one
in pretty much every room. You even have one on
your desk.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh my goodness, So let's talk about the ones at home.
I have a humidifier in every room. Hi, Susan Barrohause
you just chimed in. How you doing? You've used those before? Oh?
Oh is this? Are these the ones you've used before?
These are great? But going back to the humidifier, I
(15:42):
have one in every room and I don't know, I've
had them for years, right, so they're they're old, so
they're I think it was they were like thirty dollars,
but a couple of months ago, I want to say,
maybe in January, we were at Costco just browsing and
we saw this humidifier with dual tanks, and what did
(16:04):
I say to gallons?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, it's a gallon purchase.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's a gallon each. But it's really cool. And you
know what I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up a post
because I don't want to miss missed this. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They've got a few settings and one of the cool
things I like about this humidifier it actually has an
essential oils tray in the back of it, and you know,
we'll put cinnamon or you know something in it. And
why the mist is hit in the air. You know,
we're we're getting a little smell good too.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Uh. The humidifier was seventy nine seventy nine ninety nine.
I believe it was Home Home Medics that was the brand.
It has a cool and warm missed dual tanks two
gallon capacity. You can run it for twelve hours straight
depending on the setting, auto shutoff timer, and it said
(17:01):
that the warm mist kills up to ninety nine point
ninety nine percent of bacteria, so it's it's really good.
And for those of you that have trouble sleeping, I
run the humidifier and it helps me sleep.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So yeah, it's actually a pretty cool humidifier. And I
mean the other one we might you know, if we're
running it eight hours, we'd have to fill it a
couple of times. This one we probably fill it once
a week. Yeah, it's doing really well.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And it doesn't matter what kind of humidifier you get,
but I highly recommend that you get one and run it.
And I also bought a personal one. It's about this size.
It's round hard, Oh yeah, like a heart, but I'm
not doing the heart. And I keep it at my
(17:52):
desk and it helps me in the office, you know,
with the dice is running and stuff, So it really
helps me. And I noticed that it was getting clogged
up or it wasn't working the way that it should
be working. So I brought it home asked trying to
clean it. He's a sweetheart, cleaned it, cleaned it for me.
(18:13):
He put a new filter in it, and I started
using distilled water and it works great. It has a
lot of power. And it's funny because I was running
it and I walked away from my desk for like
fifteen twenty minutes, and when I came back, my keyboard
was wet, my desk was wet where I keep it,
(18:34):
And I'm like, where's that coming from? Yeah, And I
didn't realize that my body was absorbing all that moisture
in yeah, because when I'm when I'm sitting on my desk,
that doesn't happen. It's just I walk away for ten
fifteen minutes and yeah. So it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And one thing she started doing there and we're going
to start doing at home is running distilled water in it.
Just they don't get dirty as fast. And that was
the biggest problem with some of the humidifiers we've had.
We're running tap water, and you know, all the hard
particles in that water clog up the heating element and
then it doesn't work as well and it's like cemented
(19:14):
to it. So we soak them in you know, vinegar
or lemon juice to help the you know, the acids
break it up and chisel it away, and it's just
not fun.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And if you do use tap water, you definitely have
to take it apart clean it because it has, like
you said, the cemented right we have, you almost have
to use like a hammer and chisel. Yeah, it was bad.
It was really really bad.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yep. So distilled water helps that, it helps keep it.
It actually produces a little more moisture and doesn't get
as dirty, so it's a big help.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So highly recommend it again. The Little One Amazon, twenty
twenty five dollars. I'll actually have a couple. I have one,
I have one at work. I actually want to bring
one into the studio because I'm coming almost every day
to the studio, and I have one at my home office.
So they are awesome. Highly recommend And what else here
(20:11):
is on the list? Plugs Hunt do plugs. I don't
have any experience with them. I know they've worked for
a lot of people and a lot of people that
I've spoken to over the years they've used them, but
I don't know, can you talk about it? Do you
know anything about them?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean the people we've talked to. I know
sizing them can be an issue, so you might have to,
you know, go back to get a larger one because
it fell out. It seems like the people who have
gotten them love them. They seem to do a really,
really good job. I don't know if I could. I'm
(20:48):
not a good patient, first of all. And when it
comes to my eyes and the whole puff of air
getting close to my eyeball, I just contact. Never happened
with me.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Never this guy. He says that I'm not a good patient,
and he's not a good patient. He doesn't go to
the doctor, he doesn't go to the dentist, so it's him.
But but you know the people that I've spoken to,
you know, via Instagram, Facebook messages, that have chiogrins. I
guess they have different sizes and if you get them
(21:22):
too big they pop out. Or also you could get
your tear ducts cauterized.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yep, they do characterize them as well, which would have
the same effect as a punktal plug, but you can't
really reverse the carterization.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So there are several options. I'm definitely. When I mentioned
it to my optalmologists, he said my eyes like, I
wasn't there yet. You know, my dry eyes weren't that severe,
so even though I feel they are, but apparently not
so lucky me. But I don't know, so like I said,
I can't talk about personal experience because I don't know,
(21:54):
but those are options.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, one thing you can talk personally about is your
itchy eye makeup wiki wiki wiki.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That's me scratching my eye. Oh oh, somebody chimed in.
I've had the punktal plugs, but they don't stay in
for me. Yeah. See a lot of people have said that,
so thanks for commenting. Kim. Appreciate that. When my eyes
get itchy, because you know, when you have dry eyes,
(22:24):
they feel itchy like you have sand in them, very
sensitive to light. When I didn't know I had dry eyes,
I became really sensitive to light and I feel like
I had to wear my sung glasses inside because they
were awful but itchy. Every so often, my eyes start itching,
(22:47):
and I think that maybe it's the the eye drops
that I'm using, the restasis, you know, because as soon
as I put them in, my eyes start itching, and
I think sometimes they do expire, even though they say
that they you know, they last forever. But when my
eyes do start feeling itchy and just irritated, I do
I throw the I throw away the ones that I have,
(23:11):
and but makeup. I replace my makeup, not all the time, right,
because it's expensive. But if my eyes start itching and
becoming very sensitive, I replace all my makeup, starting with
my eyes, with my eye makeup, and that's helped.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, the part of the problem goes away. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah. Or sometimes you become allergic to detergents that you're using.
So I mean, just because you've been using something for
a long time, eventually you become allergic to it. Because
I used to wear I used to wear what you
might call it liquid liner, and I became allergic to it.
I had to stop wearing it, so I started wearing
pencil eyeliner. So also, you guys know what I did, Jenny,
(23:58):
I can use zoom in I'm my f not that
you could really tell, but you're coming off. Oh, not
that you could really tell, thanks Brian. But I actually
got my eyeliner tattooed, and I love it. It was
it was a really good decision for me. Okay about
you can't really tell.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Me, but I was concerned about her doing this because
we know with chogrin's healing can be you know, difficult,
it can take a long time, and you know she'll
get a cut or scrape and it'll take three months
to heal, and she's telling me she wants to get
her eyes tattooed, and I'm like, okay, I get it.
(24:43):
I understand less makeup, less eye irritation, less itchiness. However,
you know, it is a burn, and fortunately she healed
really really well.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Awesome, guys. I have two sisters. I'm going to out
them because I don't know if anybody knows, but I
have two sisters. My oldest sister she got it and
I didn't know for many years that she had it.
And then another sister she got her eyeliner tattooed. And
one day I saw her and I was like, man,
your I makeup looks great, and she's like, oh, thanks,
I've been it's a new eyeliner that I've been using.
(25:19):
And so and I went out and I bought and
hold on, i'll read that. And I bought the eyeliner
that she recommended, and guess what I find out a
few months later it was actually tattooed. So I thought
long and hard about it, and finally I decided to
(25:39):
get it done. And you know what, guys, it's I
was really nervous about it because again I didn't know
how it was gonna heal, but I healed great and
best decision I've ever made. And since I stopped wearing eyeliner,
my eyes don't bother me as much. I mean they
irritate me a little bit, but not as much so.
And actually I have a showy friends. She lives in Washington,
(26:03):
and she had it done because you know, I had
a good experience and she loves it. So I mean,
it's up to you, but it's it was a great
decision for me.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Which was really cool. Go ahead and throw that comment
up there, Jeanetty, So.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
If it's okay. My eye doctor swapped my restaces with zydrud.
I don't know how to say that word. I also
used a refreshed liquid gel as needed too daily. But
I found that both prescriptions did burn at first. Did
the tattoo liner hurt? So a couple of things. The
restaces does burn at first, I'm gonna say for a
(26:42):
couple of weeks, maybe maybe even months, and it does burn,
But after a while, your eyes and your body get
used to it, so it'll stop burning. I promise it'll
stop burning. But then if you stop using it, I
don't know. For a couple of weeks and then you
go back to it, it's gonna it's gonna burn again.
I don't have that's for stasis. I don't have experience
(27:05):
with the other one, but it probably works the same way.
And regarding the eyeliner tattoo, did it hurt it?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Did they numb it?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh? Yes, yes, they numb it with the Q tip
the top and the bottom, and you know, you walk in,
they numb it. I don't know about twenty minutes before
they start, and then they numb it again while they're
prepping the needle and everything. But this lady did an
awesome job. If anybody's local to southern California, I don't know.
(27:42):
If you guys want to get it, i'll give you
her info. But it does. I'm not gonna say it burns,
but I mean it is a needle, right, and it's
close to your eyes, so you don't want to move.
But it did hurt a little, but it wasn't so bad.
The lady she was very experienced, so and the line
is really right. Great job. You know what I thought
(28:03):
about it, because of course I took to the internet,
right and I saw all these botched jobs. But it
was great Susan says that she uses guys. I'm sorry,
I don't know how to say that name Zydra. And
it does burn, but if you refrigerated, it burns less.
(28:24):
There you have it, It burns less, and it's awesome.
It feels really good in your eyes. It's really cooling. Yeah,
really refreshing. That's the word I want to use.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Do.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I see a lot of comments up there, They're not
popping on my I.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Think we've addressed the majority of them. If we missed you,
we apologize. Thank you guys for the comments. That is awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I think I've responded to all of them.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
But and if she didn't, I'm sure she will later.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, if you have questions, I'm pretty sure I did
almost one hundred percent. If I didn't, I'll definitely chime
in later if you have any questions.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
And first and foremost, I kind of want to throw
a little disclaimer out there. We've talked about a lot
of products that Lupe has used. This is not a
sponsored episode. These are just things that we've found and
she's found work really well for her, and you know,
sharing that information is uh, you know, might be helpful
for some Now you know these are all experiences. She's
(29:19):
head with these products, so you know, do your research,
don't get other opinions.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, definitely, because what works for some people doesn't work
for others. So a lot of people just joined in.
So I want to show you. I just kind of
want to recap because I think we're pretty much done, right,
we are, We can recap real quick, so I just
kind of recap really quick and show you the product.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
She's like a QVC person.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Now see Anna glasses right that have this removable silicone seal.
And we went to a sugar support group with Susan
Barajas and that's where I found out about this company.
They were great.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And then one other thing. We did an episode with
Daniel the owner a while back. So if you go
to Sugrinstrong dot com and search Zenna, it'll pop right
to the top and you can learn more about him,
the company, the glasses, and where you can get you know,
hooked up with them.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah. So these here and again they come in many
shapes and sizes and all that good stuff. And I
also have these sunglasses and I bought these at Walmart
or Target and they were about twenty dollars. So I'm
pretty sure you could still find these.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
And they have a pham seal.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yes, they have a phone. The phone is not removable.
It's stuck right, so you know you're gonna have to
clean it, but you can't remove it. So anyways, these
are pretty cool too. Twenty bucks and the dry eye
compress and you stick it in the microwave for about
(31:05):
twenty seconds, no longer than that. And if it's too
hot when you know, when you put it on your eyes,
just kind of remove it and let it cool down
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And don't cut the tag because those are the instructions.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I was about to cut off the tag and I
started reading it and I was like, well, those are all
the instructions because I was going to look it up
how to use it again, you know, because I don't
use it all the time, because you know what, honestly,
I get home, I'm tired, you know, I turn on
a humidifire, But when my eyes feel really really dry
and I'm watching TV, I put on my Xana glasses
or you know, use the compress, keep it on your
(31:42):
eyes for as long as you can, and you could
repeat a couple of times. I think so. But you
have to like everything, you have to use it constantly, right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And one last thing, and I meant to bring it
in to discuss it a little more detail, but we'll
do a post on it this week. The foundation just
announced today, I think it was, that they're doing a
dry eye drug trial, if I'm not mistaken. So we'll
post on that with a link to it so you
(32:13):
can learn more about it and see if you're in
an area that has a doctor that's actually supporting the trial, yes,
and go from there.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And the humidifiers. I meant to bring the personal one
that's about this size that I keep at my desk,
and I didn't. I forgot, but I'll post on it.
I've done a post before. But anyways, humidifiers they work great.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So humidifiers rock. They make life so much better for
both of us.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, I mean, can you imagine if you feel dry?
How do you think I feel?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So? But anyways, I think that's all we got for
now regarding dry eyes. And I mean again, if you
have any many topics that you want us to talk about,
let us know. We'll do research on it and we'll
definitely do our best.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And if you're watching this on Facebook, or YouTube. We
appreciate that. And if you're listening, we appreciate you subscribing
to the show on your favorite podcast player, and maybe
you do both. You can listen while you're driving and
watch when you have time.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Absolutely, yeah, I find myself going back to the shows
ever since we've been you know, doing it live. I'm like, oh,
that's cool. So anyways, and anyways, remember, for those of
you that watched or listened to last week's episode, I
was really tired and dragging and I got sleep and
(33:45):
I feel great, a lot of energy. So I think,
you know, I had done too much and I rested
and I feel like I'm million bucks today. I think
Brian's the one that's dragging today.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
But anyways, I'm dragging today, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Take care of your eyes, do your research, use the
products that work for you.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And and share. Yeah, you have good experiences, bad experiences,
share with the group. Shogunstrong has a Facebook group that's private,
so you can find it on shogrin Strong page on Facebook,
and so many awesome people helping each other in there
with you know, questions and answers about you.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Name it so and it's a group community. The group sorry,
you're sorry. The group if you go into our Facebook
you can find the group that way, but the group private.
It's called Living Children Strong because that's what we do, right,
That's what we're doing. We're Living Children Strong. So that's that.
(34:45):
That's a wrap.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Guys, appreciate it. If you don't follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,
we appreciate y'all. We will see you next week.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Thank you for being here and we appreciate you all.
And until next time, sip constantly and stay hydrated.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Guys, Thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Bye, hell m
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