April 19, 2022 • 24 mins
Are you having a hard time swallowing? I've been having the hardest time lately, so I made an appointment with an ENT. Even though this journey is not over, we want to share what is going on.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We are neither nutritionists or medical providers. The topics discussed
on this show are from our own research and experiences.
Please console your medical provider before attempting anything discussed on
this show. Welcome to another episode.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Of Chogrin Strong.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm Brian and this is Lupe.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And this is your podcast discussing how to live and
not given healthy lifestyle despite a diagnosis of showgrins and.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Guess what what today?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And today?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hey guys, how's everybody doing? Loop and Brian here?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
This is our Wow, our first episode and how long?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is our second episode of the year. Our last
episode was January. Hi, it seems like the only time
we come on and drop an episode is when something's
going on with your life.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, you know it's something medical, right. I feel like,
I don't know, I miss it, But I feel like
everything we've discussed already, you know, and I know that
we can make it better what we've talked about, But
I don't know. I just I'm sure that a lot
of people are going through what I'm going through, and
I just you know, want everybody to know maybe help
(01:25):
somebody out.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well. For those of you who are new listeners, this
this episode is actually airing on and off day. We
normally drop episodes on Thursday, and we're actually doing this live,
so it's not going to be this polished. You're going
to get the raw us.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's the best. That's the best, that's us. Actually, Well,
today is Tuesday, right, and I had a doctor's appointment
and then you know, I took the day off and
I came to the studio and I told Rian, you
know what, we should drop some knowledge today.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Now it's dropped some entertainment. Yeah, so I'm going to
tell the backstory. So Loope was crushing the diet. She
was eating fruits, veg really really healthy, but there might
(02:20):
have been an increase in the amount of acids she
was consuming with the fruits and a little, you know
of bit of chili sauce on things. And she started
having a hard time swallowing, to the point one day,
I want to say, we were eating soup. It wasn't
even something crazy hard and she coughs a little bit,
(02:43):
which is normal and for those of you with shogrins,
you know, you have a hard time swallowing. We get it.
But food aside, she jumps up. She was choking. You
could see the panic in her eyes. Now she was coughing,
so I encouraged the cough, patted her on the back,
and eventually the food passed. She was able to expel
(03:04):
it and start to breathe. But that scared.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Her, Yeah, it did. So okay, So for us show,
we don't produce a live or rite, so we have
the hardest time swallowing. And I mean, I've always had
issues swallowing, but for the last three four months, it
(03:29):
was just getting progressively worse and worse and worse, to
the point where, you know, I was having a hard time.
So I thought, well, if I can't eat, I was.
It was easy for me to eat fruit, So I
was eating a lot of fruit. I was eating like
two fruits a day or sometimes three, and that was
(03:50):
the only thing that I was eating because that was
the only thing that I was able to swallow. But then,
you know, a few months went by, and.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You know, and I'm gonna jump in here, time has
passed and she's eating less and less. And I know,
unless she's being a sneaky snacker in the middle of
the night, and if she is, she's not getting good food,
that she's not consuming enough food to maintain a healthy day.
(04:23):
So she started transitioning to soups. Anything hard was even
bread was difficult for her to swallow.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I usually eat chicken. That's what I eat, chicken, chicken, chicken.
And then I just noticed that chicken was really hard.
It was just hard to swallow, got caught in my throat,
so I cut out chicken.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yep. So all this time passes, she's eating less and less,
and when she does eat, it's soup. And if anybody
needs soup, let us know. We're gonna be donating to
the soup kitchen here soon. We have a lot of soup.
But we finally got around to schedule an appointment with
an ent. And everybody know, if you've listened to the
(05:05):
show for a while, we know Loupe and new doctors
just don't get along.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Dear, dear, dear, you have to throw me under the
bulls every time.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But this ent was cool.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So he was legit, he was he was cool. He
was cool. But you know, a new doctor, I didn't
know what to expect. I just I didn't even consult
it with my primary or I think I had mentioned
it last time I went to the room colleges and
he's like, oh, you know, you don't have to lie
about That's why he just kind of brushed it off.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But you know, I went to a yearly and I
don't know. I didn't even bring it up. I just
thought throat issue because I can't swallow, it must be
in my throat. And I scheduled my appointment with an
e int and I'm like, Brian, will you go with me?
So he made time, you know, out of his day,
and I was so nervous because I didn't know what
to expect.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And uh but and then doctor Nuinn walks in. He's like,
what's up? Players, fist bumping everybody, mask half off of
his face. He was cool.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
He definitely enjoys his job, right. He was a cool doctor.
I recommend him to anybody that needs anian tea that's
in the Orange County area. He was super cool and
found valley. So anyways, you know, he asked me, what,
you know, what's going on with me? So I since
I've been having this issue, I've been staying away from
(06:26):
I didn't want to google it, right because you always
hear the worst on Google. But you know, it was
just getting worse and worse, and uh, what's causing it?
And I also felt, you know what, besides having a
hard time swallowing, I could feel the food going down.
It was stuck for hours and I'm not exaggerating that.
But I also felt, especially when I was eating, I
(06:48):
felt like I had food a copy behind my tonsils.
Is that right? That's why I felt the food behind
my tonsils always food and doesn't matter how much water
I drank, it just it wouldn't pass. So anyways, I
explained all that to the doctor. I told him actually
that I have chilgrins, and I was very relieved when
(07:09):
he said he was familiar. He said he went to
school Ryan, right, He went to school with a lot
of with a lot of patient and saw a lot
of patients that had chilgren So I was relieved he
understood me. He kind of explained what he was going
to do. A little bit, and he he squirted this
numbing gel in each of my nostrils like three pumps,
(07:30):
boom boom boom, like didn't even no warning, right, just
boom boom. Oh my god, guys, this was so gross.
But anyways, about I don't know, five ten minutes later,
he comes back, my throat is numb a little bit,
and he pulls out this big fire hose.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Come on, now, it was a Lornge's scope, one of
those little flexible cameras that goes into your nose and
curves down around. He called it uh endoscopy. How whoever,
he didn't go past the vocal cords. He didn't go
into the stomach. He was just looking at the epiglottis
and the vocal cords. So that's what he did. Now,
(08:13):
I know Loope, and I'm ready to just grab her,
and not to physically restrain her, but let her know
I'm there and I'm paying attention. And he's trying to
get her to take this scope down her nose, and
she's like reach it up and snatches his arm and
but you know what, he handled it. Well, he didn't resist.
(08:35):
He lets you hang on to him, and he slowly
got the scope down to where he needed to see.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, I don't know what to expect, and I mean
my reflexes, you know, my defense reflexes kicked in and
I did grab him, and I didn't. It wasn't like
I grabbed him hard, you know, I just if if
it got uncomfortable. I was just touching his arm and
I was just gonna push him away, you know, if
(09:02):
it got uncomfortable. But he went as far as my
throat and uh, he said it was irritated and inflamed.
The part I don't know medical terms, but he said,
the part that wasn't the part where you swallow the food.
(09:28):
That part was inflamed and it was kind of touching,
and so that's why I couldn't swallow.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So the epiglottis is a little flap that protects your
airway when you're swallowing food. That and the if I'm
not saying this right, forgive me the cumulicate cartridge around
your vocal cords. All of that was inflamed. And he
could see the redness, he could see swelling, and he
(09:55):
attributed it to acid.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Acid.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now acid, Our stomach produces acid to break down food.
We get heartburn. That acid's leaving the stomach and getting
up into ar esophagus, and that's what heartburn is. However,
we also eat and drink a lot of acidic foods,
citric acid and fruits. You were having a lot of
(10:20):
mango that I believe they're on the acidic side.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I had mango every day four months because it's just delicious,
and if I couldn't eat, I was gonna eat that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And then of course you had to put chili on
the mango.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Of course, because you know, I'm Mexican, that's how we roll.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
But yeah, there was a lot of acid going on.
So in my mind, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But you know what's really funny is that Brian, he
had asked me, do you have heartburn? Heartburn? And I said,
I never have heartburn, or maybe I didn't know how
to identify it, so I said, no, is heartburn painful?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I tried to explain it in the best words I could.
And this is the I think it was cute. Lupe
is probably gonna get mad at me. A couple days later,
she goes, my chest feels lemonye.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, wait a minute now, yeah, you're I'm being too far.
He had asked me before, do you have heartburn? And
I said, no, I don't, or maybe I don't know
how to identify it. And I said, if it hurts,
if it causes pain. You know, I'm always on pain meds,
so I haven't been in pain right there, you know,
my chest area. And so then when the doctor said,
(11:34):
do you have heartburn? And I looked at Brian, like, really,
he's asking me the same question. But I guess I've
never had it or I didn't know how to recognize it, right,
So then we you know he's he actually the doctor.
He he put me on nexium. He called it something else.
(11:55):
But I went to the pharmacy, tried to fill my
script and whatever the generic name is, and the pharmacy
said out of the pharmacy said, we don't accept your insurance. Anyways,
that's a different story. But anyways, the pharmacist, she was
(12:16):
really kind and she says, you know what, but we
sell this over the counter. It's next to him. And
I was like, well that's what the doctor said. I
don't know why they prescribed something else, but anyways, so
I had been on it for this Friday that passed.
It was one week, and so next him comes in
fourteen capsules for two weeks, and so Friday no Saturday.
(12:41):
So I started on a Friday. The following Saturday, I
just felt like my throat felt normal, and I said, Briane,
I think I could swallow now, and let's go to
our favorite restaurant. Right, So we went to a restaurant
that we love. And he said to me, uh, because
I you know, I had fish tacos and because guy,
I hadn't had any solid food in such a long time.
(13:02):
I was craving everything. I was just picking out on everything.
So I had fish tacos and I always had a
little bit of lemon. And then they have salta because
it's a Mexican restaurant. And he said to me, you
might have heartburn with the salsa and the lime and so,
and I said, okay, I'm going to pay attention. And
I actually did pay attention. And when he told me,
(13:25):
I don't know, about an hour later that he had heartburn,
I felt a little bit of discomfort. And I said,
I don't know how to explain it, except it feels lemony,
like when you eat lemon.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I don't know which in my mind made sense. Lemoniese acidic.
He kind of gives you that feeling in your mouth.
And so you tried to tombs.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I tried to tombs and I think I chewed it,
and he said, no, you're not supposed to chew it.
Just let it dissolve in your mouth. So I said, okay,
give me another one. And so I had to and
I let a dissolve in my mouth and that feeling
went away.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So now we know what heartburn is.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So now we know. And maybe I've never paid attention. Maybe,
like I said, I'm always on mess. I didn't feel it.
You know, I'm worried about other things the heartburn. But
to me, it's like, what even happens when you have heartburn?
How does as it come out of your stomach to
(14:26):
your esophagus? I mean, like, are you serious that? Because
of heartburn and reflux and a lot of a lot
of comments when I put a post out, some comments
have talked about kurd and I'm like, what is gourd?
That just I don't know what it is. And as
I'm reading more and it's affecting me, a gourd and
acid reflex is the same thing, and I'm thinking to myself,
(14:46):
are you kidding me? I've been suffering for months. I
didn't eat for months, and it was as easy as
taking nexium. I mean, in five days, I feel better.
I was so amazed. So so that was that. So
since Friday, I kind of I've been pigging out on
a lot of stuff that I shouldn't be so I'm
gonna stop today, I'm gonna stop. But also the doctor
(15:08):
he also sent me to get an X ray of
my throat.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
With a barium yeah drink.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So I went intoday.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And asphogram, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I went to Memorial Care and found Valley and everybody,
the staff, everybody was really nice. I didn't know to
I didn't know what to expect, so I did get
a little bit nervous, right because I'm like, are they
gonna stick something now down my throat? But they actually
explained the procedure. They gave me. They gave me a
little something it kind of it was it was it
(15:50):
fizzed like alcal selzer, and he said just try to
down it like like if it's a shot. And then
they gave me something else and I don't know what
it's called.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It that happens.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So they gave me something else and the doctor said,
this is going to be a little bit thicker, it
might be a little bit harder to swallow, so you
it might not go down like a shot. Okay, So
that was that, and then like I'm standing in front
of this metal plate that looks like a bad is
kind of upright, standing up and it's metal. They put
(16:25):
a metal plate in front of me and they tell me, okay,
now take a sip of this burium thing on a
jigger that they gave me, and take a couple of SIPs,
and then the doctor, because the doctor was there and
he's just washing it go down my throat. And so
I was there for about five minutes doing that, and
then he said, now turn around, and the bed kinda
(16:51):
they laid it down, and so now I was on
my stomach. They gave me a pillow, and then they
gave me more to drink with a raw because now
I'm laying down. And the funny thing is that the
camera or the screen was right in front of me,
so I can I can see what they're looking at.
But I'm not a doctor. I don't know what it was.
(17:13):
It just looks like it looked like little turds going
down like a hose or something. Right, Brian's over there
cracking out, Come on now, I mean, but that's what
it looked like, like like little turds going down hose.
So so he was watching my throat and then as
(17:34):
it went lower and lower, and then you know, I
was laying on my stomach for I don't know, a
couple of minutes. And then he said, okay, you're done.
We'll send this to your doctor. And I'm like, I
wish you would have told me because he was a doctor.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, but you know, but.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah. So then the teg he's like, you know, just
go go home and drink a lot of water, try
to flush it out of your system. And I was fine,
you know what this thing, it wasn't It didn't taste
that bad. He's the text. He's like, it's supposed to
take like taste like strawberries. Now like, well, it definitely
tasted like chalk, not like strawberries. But I was fine
(18:13):
with the taste and everything. I wasn't grossed out. But
then I went into the bathroom because you know, they
they put me in a gown. But I didn't have
to undress. They just put me in a gown, so
I don't know, just in case I puked or something,
they wouldn't get all over my clothes. But so they
put me in a gown. So I went to the restroom.
I took off the gown and there was my lips
were right, were white, like if I put on white lipstick.
(18:38):
Whatever that thing was, and so I'm washing my mouth
out and that's when I started getting grossed out because
I saw my tongue was white, like I painted a
white gross.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You know. So this chapter's not closed. We still now
have to go back to the NT so he can
read us the radiologists interpretation of the esophagram and go
from there. But I'm hoping he scopes you again, just
so he can have visual confirmation that the neum is
(19:13):
reducing that irritation and inflammation and that everything's good.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I hope it's as easy as taking a nextium a day,
because I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, And you know, it's funny. I've done a lot
of reading and research on this, and my voice I
do do it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I do.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I do a lot of talking throughout the course of work,
and my voice fatigues and by Friday it just sounds
really rough and crazy, and I do get heartburn from
time to time. In the evening. I have tombs by
the bed and I'll take one as needed. But in
all the research, I'm like, wow, I might have something
(19:56):
going on. So I put myself on a course of
nexium just to see if.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I get Yeah, you know, a lot of comments from
you guys and even the doctor and the text today,
they're like, so did you go see a GI?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, They're like, did you go see a GI? And
I said no, Well, thankfully, you know, I'm thankful that
I have PPO. And I was just able to make
an appointment with an E and T because I thought
it's a throat so A and T. But apparently most
people go see a GI, so I guess they're more intrusive, right,
So I'm glad that I went to an E and T.
(20:36):
And I hope it says I do hope that it
was just acid reflux.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, I mean, and I think an E and T
was a good first step. You know, if he finds
something that's past your throat, then yeah we'll go. We'll
take it to the next level and go see a
GI doc and go from there. But everything he said
made sense to me. The research we've done is made
sense to me. I think we're gonna be okay. So
(21:04):
just consider us your Sugrin's test dummies. Yeah, if you're
having heartburn, don't let it linger. If you eat a
lot of spicy food, you know, have a tons on occasion.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's crazy to me, So my Tomorrow, I'm gonna call
the the ent that I went to make an appointment
for next week, and uh, you know, hopefully he'll give
me he gives me good news, and hopefully it's just
as simple as acid reflux. And but you know what
I can't believe. Don't if you have symptoms, don't ignore them,
(21:36):
because look if it's if it was as easy as
acid reflux, and I just had to take a thumbs
or an exium over the counter, and I let it
get that bad because I I didn't recognize the symptoms.
You know, just if you do recognize the symptoms, don't
let it get that bad. And if maybe you are
(21:57):
having a hard time swallowing, you know, kind of listen
to your body, see if you have heartburn, and try
an xium. You know, I I'm just I'm just so
I can't believe it it's as easy. It was as
easy as that for me. Well, now I could swallow.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And you don't even need to start with an xium.
Just try toms or rolades or in my home growing up,
it was soda water. And you know I still have
soda water on a game baking soda and water.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, I know that you tell me if I have
like an upset Tommy soda water. But I'm yeah, I'm
just amazed, and I wanted to share this with you guys,
and then probably in a couple of weeks we'll do
another episode with an update. And of course, you know,
I always post so my experience for those that you know,
for some people, they don't listen to podcasts. But yeah,
(22:49):
I wanted to share my story and hopefully it helps
some of you guys out.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, it seems so cool to be behind the mic
with you again on this show.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I actually miss it. Do you guys miss us? I hope.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Do you guys want us to continue? I don't know.
Let us know in the comments, Yeah, let us know
if you want us to come back.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And while you're scrolling down there to the comments, you'll
find links to our social media. Hit us up on
Instagram and Twitter? And are you still playing on Facebook? Much? Strong?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
The group is getting stronger, you know. I post on Facebook,
not as much as as on Instagram. Facebook doesn't get
a lot of love. They don't. Facebook doesn't show it
to a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Their algorithms kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I don't know what happened. I mean they used to
show it to a lot of people, and they just
don't anymore. So I get a few comments, so I
do respond, and I do share some stuff, you know,
like the important stuff. The day to day not so much.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But you are definitely most active on Instagram, so.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, and I'm definitely gonna share this post and my
experience today also on Instagram with the picture of my
why tongue.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Awesome. Well, anything else, I.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Think that'd do it. I think that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
All right. Well, we want to thank you for listening
to this episode of Chogrin's Strong. If you like what
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Speaker 1 (24:29):
Absolutely, and until next time, sip constantly and stay hydrated.
We are neither nutritionists or medical providers. The topics discussed
on this show are from our own research and experiences.
Please console your medical provider before attempting anything discussed on
this show. Welcome to another episode.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Of Chogrin Strong.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm Brian and this is Lupe.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And this is your podcast discussing how to live and
not given healthy lifestyle despite a diagnosis of showgrins and.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Guess what what today?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And today?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hey guys, how's everybody doing? Loop and Brian here?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
This is our Wow, our first episode and how long?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is our second episode of the year. Our last
episode was January. Hi, it seems like the only time
we come on and drop an episode is when something's
going on with your life.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, you know it's something medical, right. I feel like,
I don't know, I miss it, But I feel like
everything we've discussed already, you know, and I know that
we can make it better what we've talked about, But
I don't know. I just I'm sure that a lot
of people are going through what I'm going through, and
I just you know, want everybody to know maybe help
(01:25):
somebody out.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well. For those of you who are new listeners, this
this episode is actually airing on and off day. We
normally drop episodes on Thursday, and we're actually doing this live,
so it's not going to be this polished. You're going
to get the raw us.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's the best. That's the best, that's us. Actually, Well,
today is Tuesday, right, and I had a doctor's appointment
and then you know, I took the day off and
I came to the studio and I told Rian, you
know what, we should drop some knowledge today.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Now it's dropped some entertainment. Yeah, so I'm going to
tell the backstory. So Loope was crushing the diet. She
was eating fruits, veg really really healthy, but there might
(02:20):
have been an increase in the amount of acids she
was consuming with the fruits and a little, you know
of bit of chili sauce on things. And she started
having a hard time swallowing, to the point one day,
I want to say, we were eating soup. It wasn't
even something crazy hard and she coughs a little bit,
(02:43):
which is normal and for those of you with shogrins,
you know, you have a hard time swallowing. We get it.
But food aside, she jumps up. She was choking. You
could see the panic in her eyes. Now she was coughing,
so I encouraged the cough, patted her on the back,
and eventually the food passed. She was able to expel
(03:04):
it and start to breathe. But that scared.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Her, Yeah, it did. So okay, So for us show,
we don't produce a live or rite, so we have
the hardest time swallowing. And I mean, I've always had
issues swallowing, but for the last three four months, it
(03:29):
was just getting progressively worse and worse and worse, to
the point where, you know, I was having a hard time.
So I thought, well, if I can't eat, I was.
It was easy for me to eat fruit, So I
was eating a lot of fruit. I was eating like
two fruits a day or sometimes three, and that was
(03:50):
the only thing that I was eating because that was
the only thing that I was able to swallow. But then,
you know, a few months went by, and.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You know, and I'm gonna jump in here, time has
passed and she's eating less and less. And I know,
unless she's being a sneaky snacker in the middle of
the night, and if she is, she's not getting good food,
that she's not consuming enough food to maintain a healthy day.
(04:23):
So she started transitioning to soups. Anything hard was even
bread was difficult for her to swallow.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I usually eat chicken. That's what I eat, chicken, chicken, chicken.
And then I just noticed that chicken was really hard.
It was just hard to swallow, got caught in my throat,
so I cut out chicken.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yep. So all this time passes, she's eating less and less,
and when she does eat, it's soup. And if anybody
needs soup, let us know. We're gonna be donating to
the soup kitchen here soon. We have a lot of soup.
But we finally got around to schedule an appointment with
an ent. And everybody know, if you've listened to the
(05:05):
show for a while, we know Loupe and new doctors
just don't get along.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Dear, dear, dear, you have to throw me under the
bulls every time.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But this ent was cool.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So he was legit, he was he was cool. He
was cool. But you know, a new doctor, I didn't
know what to expect. I just I didn't even consult
it with my primary or I think I had mentioned
it last time I went to the room colleges and
he's like, oh, you know, you don't have to lie
about That's why he just kind of brushed it off.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But you know, I went to a yearly and I
don't know. I didn't even bring it up. I just
thought throat issue because I can't swallow, it must be
in my throat. And I scheduled my appointment with an
e int and I'm like, Brian, will you go with me?
So he made time, you know, out of his day,
and I was so nervous because I didn't know what
to expect.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And uh but and then doctor Nuinn walks in. He's like,
what's up? Players, fist bumping everybody, mask half off of
his face. He was cool.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
He definitely enjoys his job, right. He was a cool doctor.
I recommend him to anybody that needs anian tea that's
in the Orange County area. He was super cool and
found valley. So anyways, you know, he asked me, what,
you know, what's going on with me? So I since
I've been having this issue, I've been staying away from
(06:26):
I didn't want to google it, right because you always
hear the worst on Google. But you know, it was
just getting worse and worse, and uh, what's causing it?
And I also felt, you know what, besides having a
hard time swallowing, I could feel the food going down.
It was stuck for hours and I'm not exaggerating that.
But I also felt, especially when I was eating, I
(06:48):
felt like I had food a copy behind my tonsils.
Is that right? That's why I felt the food behind
my tonsils always food and doesn't matter how much water
I drank, it just it wouldn't pass. So anyways, I
explained all that to the doctor. I told him actually
that I have chilgrins, and I was very relieved when
(07:09):
he said he was familiar. He said he went to
school Ryan, right, He went to school with a lot
of with a lot of patient and saw a lot
of patients that had chilgren So I was relieved he
understood me. He kind of explained what he was going
to do. A little bit, and he he squirted this
numbing gel in each of my nostrils like three pumps,
(07:30):
boom boom boom, like didn't even no warning, right, just
boom boom. Oh my god, guys, this was so gross.
But anyways, about I don't know, five ten minutes later,
he comes back, my throat is numb a little bit,
and he pulls out this big fire hose.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Come on, now, it was a Lornge's scope, one of
those little flexible cameras that goes into your nose and
curves down around. He called it uh endoscopy. How whoever,
he didn't go past the vocal cords. He didn't go
into the stomach. He was just looking at the epiglottis
and the vocal cords. So that's what he did. Now,
(08:13):
I know Loope, and I'm ready to just grab her,
and not to physically restrain her, but let her know
I'm there and I'm paying attention. And he's trying to
get her to take this scope down her nose, and
she's like reach it up and snatches his arm and
but you know what, he handled it. Well, he didn't resist.
(08:35):
He lets you hang on to him, and he slowly
got the scope down to where he needed to see.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, I don't know what to expect, and I mean
my reflexes, you know, my defense reflexes kicked in and
I did grab him, and I didn't. It wasn't like
I grabbed him hard, you know, I just if if
it got uncomfortable. I was just touching his arm and
I was just gonna push him away, you know, if
(09:02):
it got uncomfortable. But he went as far as my
throat and uh, he said it was irritated and inflamed.
The part I don't know medical terms, but he said,
the part that wasn't the part where you swallow the food.
(09:28):
That part was inflamed and it was kind of touching,
and so that's why I couldn't swallow.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So the epiglottis is a little flap that protects your
airway when you're swallowing food. That and the if I'm
not saying this right, forgive me the cumulicate cartridge around
your vocal cords. All of that was inflamed. And he
could see the redness, he could see swelling, and he
(09:55):
attributed it to acid.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Acid.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now acid, Our stomach produces acid to break down food.
We get heartburn. That acid's leaving the stomach and getting
up into ar esophagus, and that's what heartburn is. However,
we also eat and drink a lot of acidic foods,
citric acid and fruits. You were having a lot of
(10:20):
mango that I believe they're on the acidic side.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I had mango every day four months because it's just delicious,
and if I couldn't eat, I was gonna eat that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And then of course you had to put chili on
the mango.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Of course, because you know, I'm Mexican, that's how we roll.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
But yeah, there was a lot of acid going on.
So in my mind, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But you know what's really funny is that Brian, he
had asked me, do you have heartburn? Heartburn? And I said,
I never have heartburn, or maybe I didn't know how
to identify it, so I said, no, is heartburn painful?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I tried to explain it in the best words I could.
And this is the I think it was cute. Lupe
is probably gonna get mad at me. A couple days later,
she goes, my chest feels lemonye.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, wait a minute now, yeah, you're I'm being too far.
He had asked me before, do you have heartburn? And
I said, no, I don't, or maybe I don't know
how to identify it. And I said, if it hurts,
if it causes pain. You know, I'm always on pain meds,
so I haven't been in pain right there, you know,
my chest area. And so then when the doctor said,
(11:34):
do you have heartburn? And I looked at Brian, like, really,
he's asking me the same question. But I guess I've
never had it or I didn't know how to recognize it, right,
So then we you know he's he actually the doctor.
He he put me on nexium. He called it something else.
(11:55):
But I went to the pharmacy, tried to fill my
script and whatever the generic name is, and the pharmacy
said out of the pharmacy said, we don't accept your insurance. Anyways,
that's a different story. But anyways, the pharmacist, she was
(12:16):
really kind and she says, you know what, but we
sell this over the counter. It's next to him. And
I was like, well that's what the doctor said. I
don't know why they prescribed something else, but anyways, so
I had been on it for this Friday that passed.
It was one week, and so next him comes in
fourteen capsules for two weeks, and so Friday no Saturday.
(12:41):
So I started on a Friday. The following Saturday, I
just felt like my throat felt normal, and I said, Briane,
I think I could swallow now, and let's go to
our favorite restaurant. Right, So we went to a restaurant
that we love. And he said to me, uh, because
I you know, I had fish tacos and because guy,
I hadn't had any solid food in such a long time.
(13:02):
I was craving everything. I was just picking out on everything.
So I had fish tacos and I always had a
little bit of lemon. And then they have salta because
it's a Mexican restaurant. And he said to me, you
might have heartburn with the salsa and the lime and so,
and I said, okay, I'm going to pay attention. And
I actually did pay attention. And when he told me,
(13:25):
I don't know, about an hour later that he had heartburn,
I felt a little bit of discomfort. And I said,
I don't know how to explain it, except it feels lemony,
like when you eat lemon.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I don't know which in my mind made sense. Lemoniese acidic.
He kind of gives you that feeling in your mouth.
And so you tried to tombs.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I tried to tombs and I think I chewed it,
and he said, no, you're not supposed to chew it.
Just let it dissolve in your mouth. So I said, okay,
give me another one. And so I had to and
I let a dissolve in my mouth and that feeling
went away.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So now we know what heartburn is.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So now we know. And maybe I've never paid attention. Maybe,
like I said, I'm always on mess. I didn't feel it.
You know, I'm worried about other things the heartburn. But
to me, it's like, what even happens when you have heartburn?
How does as it come out of your stomach to
(14:26):
your esophagus? I mean, like, are you serious that? Because
of heartburn and reflux and a lot of a lot
of comments when I put a post out, some comments
have talked about kurd and I'm like, what is gourd?
That just I don't know what it is. And as
I'm reading more and it's affecting me, a gourd and
acid reflex is the same thing, and I'm thinking to myself,
(14:46):
are you kidding me? I've been suffering for months. I
didn't eat for months, and it was as easy as
taking nexium. I mean, in five days, I feel better.
I was so amazed. So so that was that. So
since Friday, I kind of I've been pigging out on
a lot of stuff that I shouldn't be so I'm
gonna stop today, I'm gonna stop. But also the doctor
(15:08):
he also sent me to get an X ray of
my throat.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
With a barium yeah drink.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So I went intoday.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And asphogram, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I went to Memorial Care and found Valley and everybody,
the staff, everybody was really nice. I didn't know to
I didn't know what to expect, so I did get
a little bit nervous, right because I'm like, are they
gonna stick something now down my throat? But they actually
explained the procedure. They gave me. They gave me a
little something it kind of it was it was it
(15:50):
fizzed like alcal selzer, and he said just try to
down it like like if it's a shot. And then
they gave me something else and I don't know what
it's called.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It that happens.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So they gave me something else and the doctor said,
this is going to be a little bit thicker, it
might be a little bit harder to swallow, so you
it might not go down like a shot. Okay, So
that was that, and then like I'm standing in front
of this metal plate that looks like a bad is
kind of upright, standing up and it's metal. They put
(16:25):
a metal plate in front of me and they tell me, okay,
now take a sip of this burium thing on a
jigger that they gave me, and take a couple of SIPs,
and then the doctor, because the doctor was there and
he's just washing it go down my throat. And so
I was there for about five minutes doing that, and
then he said, now turn around, and the bed kinda
(16:51):
they laid it down, and so now I was on
my stomach. They gave me a pillow, and then they
gave me more to drink with a raw because now
I'm laying down. And the funny thing is that the
camera or the screen was right in front of me,
so I can I can see what they're looking at.
But I'm not a doctor. I don't know what it was.
(17:13):
It just looks like it looked like little turds going
down like a hose or something. Right, Brian's over there
cracking out, Come on now, I mean, but that's what
it looked like, like like little turds going down hose.
So so he was watching my throat and then as
(17:34):
it went lower and lower, and then you know, I
was laying on my stomach for I don't know, a
couple of minutes. And then he said, okay, you're done.
We'll send this to your doctor. And I'm like, I
wish you would have told me because he was a doctor.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, but you know, but.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah. So then the teg he's like, you know, just
go go home and drink a lot of water, try
to flush it out of your system. And I was fine,
you know what this thing, it wasn't It didn't taste
that bad. He's the text. He's like, it's supposed to
take like taste like strawberries. Now like, well, it definitely
tasted like chalk, not like strawberries. But I was fine
(18:13):
with the taste and everything. I wasn't grossed out. But
then I went into the bathroom because you know, they
they put me in a gown. But I didn't have
to undress. They just put me in a gown, so
I don't know, just in case I puked or something,
they wouldn't get all over my clothes. But so they
put me in a gown. So I went to the restroom.
I took off the gown and there was my lips
were right, were white, like if I put on white lipstick.
(18:38):
Whatever that thing was, and so I'm washing my mouth
out and that's when I started getting grossed out because
I saw my tongue was white, like I painted a
white gross.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You know. So this chapter's not closed. We still now
have to go back to the NT so he can
read us the radiologists interpretation of the esophagram and go
from there. But I'm hoping he scopes you again, just
so he can have visual confirmation that the neum is
(19:13):
reducing that irritation and inflammation and that everything's good.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I hope it's as easy as taking a nextium a day,
because I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, And you know, it's funny. I've done a lot
of reading and research on this, and my voice I
do do it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I do.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I do a lot of talking throughout the course of work,
and my voice fatigues and by Friday it just sounds
really rough and crazy, and I do get heartburn from
time to time. In the evening. I have tombs by
the bed and I'll take one as needed. But in
all the research, I'm like, wow, I might have something
(19:56):
going on. So I put myself on a course of
nexium just to see if.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I get Yeah, you know, a lot of comments from
you guys and even the doctor and the text today,
they're like, so did you go see a GI?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, They're like, did you go see a GI? And
I said no, Well, thankfully, you know, I'm thankful that
I have PPO. And I was just able to make
an appointment with an E and T because I thought
it's a throat so A and T. But apparently most
people go see a GI, so I guess they're more intrusive, right,
So I'm glad that I went to an E and T.
(20:36):
And I hope it says I do hope that it
was just acid reflux.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, I mean, and I think an E and T
was a good first step. You know, if he finds
something that's past your throat, then yeah we'll go. We'll
take it to the next level and go see a
GI doc and go from there. But everything he said
made sense to me. The research we've done is made
sense to me. I think we're gonna be okay. So
(21:04):
just consider us your Sugrin's test dummies. Yeah, if you're
having heartburn, don't let it linger. If you eat a
lot of spicy food, you know, have a tons on occasion.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's crazy to me, So my Tomorrow, I'm gonna call
the the ent that I went to make an appointment
for next week, and uh, you know, hopefully he'll give
me he gives me good news, and hopefully it's just
as simple as acid reflux. And but you know what
I can't believe. Don't if you have symptoms, don't ignore them,
(21:36):
because look if it's if it was as easy as
acid reflux, and I just had to take a thumbs
or an exium over the counter, and I let it
get that bad because I I didn't recognize the symptoms.
You know, just if you do recognize the symptoms, don't
let it get that bad. And if maybe you are
(21:57):
having a hard time swallowing, you know, kind of listen
to your body, see if you have heartburn, and try
an xium. You know, I I'm just I'm just so
I can't believe it it's as easy. It was as
easy as that for me. Well, now I could swallow.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And you don't even need to start with an xium.
Just try toms or rolades or in my home growing up,
it was soda water. And you know I still have
soda water on a game baking soda and water.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, I know that you tell me if I have
like an upset Tommy soda water. But I'm yeah, I'm
just amazed, and I wanted to share this with you guys,
and then probably in a couple of weeks we'll do
another episode with an update. And of course, you know,
I always post so my experience for those that you know,
for some people, they don't listen to podcasts. But yeah,
(22:49):
I wanted to share my story and hopefully it helps
some of you guys out.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, it seems so cool to be behind the mic
with you again on this show.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I actually miss it. Do you guys miss us? I hope.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Do you guys want us to continue? I don't know.
Let us know in the comments, Yeah, let us know
if you want us to come back.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And while you're scrolling down there to the comments, you'll
find links to our social media. Hit us up on
Instagram and Twitter? And are you still playing on Facebook? Much? Strong?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
The group is getting stronger, you know. I post on Facebook,
not as much as as on Instagram. Facebook doesn't get
a lot of love. They don't. Facebook doesn't show it
to a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Their algorithms kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I don't know what happened. I mean they used to
show it to a lot of people, and they just
don't anymore. So I get a few comments, so I
do respond, and I do share some stuff, you know,
like the important stuff. The day to day not so much.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But you are definitely most active on Instagram, so.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, and I'm definitely gonna share this post and my
experience today also on Instagram with the picture of my
why tongue.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Awesome. Well, anything else, I.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Think that'd do it. I think that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
All right. Well, we want to thank you for listening
to this episode of Chogrin's Strong. If you like what
you hear, hit us in the comments. If you'd like
to hear something else, hit us in the comments, and
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Speaker 1 (24:29):
Absolutely, and until next time, sip constantly and stay hydrated.
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