The Skeptical Help Bar - Paqui One Chip Challenge edition

The first part of this episode is "Open Mic" night, taking on general questions about ghosts, UFOs, and cryptids. In the second part, JD Sword and Kenny take part in the Paqui One Chip Challenge to raise money for the Cancer Research Institute. We both ate the chip and suffered intense burning and not-so-nice feelings...but we raised over $600 for our charity.

Episode Transcript

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What's up everybody? Oh my goodness, it's Friday night. Who Friday night?
Thank you everyone. I see abunch of people already joining um,
thank you for joining me tonight tonight. It's gonna be a fun and interesting
night, to say the least.Um, first and foremost, sound off,

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let me know who's here, whereyou're from, especially if you're new,
um and just stopping by. Seethe torture tonight, which I'll get
into later, but sign off.Let me know who's who's here? And
then what you're drinking tonight? I'mactually taking a break from the normal specialty
that I drink, and I'm gonnago with the yngling her cheese. What's

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up with that? I got acouple of bottles? Hi, Diana,
Diana, you evil person? Youevil? Um Hi, pam oh,
And I'll explain why Diana is evilin a little bit. M I gotta
get that buzz one because this isgonna be a such a interesting Why am

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I blurry? What the hell?What happened there? I'm all, I'm
all blurry? Why there? There? I am? Okay? Hi Diane,
good to see you all right?So tonight? Um? Yeah,
you love me? Diana? Sureyou do, Sure you do. I
don't know about that. I thinkyou're evil because let me let me change

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this. There, there we go, Now we put that up. Let
me get the comments nice and boh, look at all the people we
have. Bill Freeman, you're introuble tonight. That's right, Hey,
Ted, what's up Ted? Missyou Ted, I miss you man,
I miss hanging out with you.JD is in the house because JD and
I are gonna do um. Well, this is all JD's fault, so

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so let me get into this.Let me say hi to everybody. We
got Kat, what's up? Howare you from? Oz? Nice?
Drinking fireball and apple cider? Nice? Hey, Linda drinking buddies. What's
up drinking Long Island? Nice day? There you go, Hey, Kim
Berley, what's up. Good tosee everyone. So tonight tonight we're gonna

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do. We're still doing our paranormalskeptic Q and a kind of thing,
so feel free to put your questionsin the comments. As usual. We
are broadcasting tonight on only two outlets, well actually three, actually three,
I was mistaken. We're broadcasting onthe Facebook pages of WLFE, dash dB

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Radio Network and I am Kenny Viddall. And then I'm also broadcasting onto my
YouTube channel, so I haven't seenanybody pop in from there yet, but
I'm trying to narrow it down.I think next week I'm only going to
broadcast on the WLFE dash dB Radionetwork, and that way we get everyone
onto the same page. That way, all the comments are there, all

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you guys can see each other,and then you can have your discussions,
which is awesome. I love that. I love that part of it.
What's up to in um? Ilove when you guys have the discussions,
but uh, hey, Bob andand and post questions and then not only
do I get to talk about thequestions that are are brought up, then

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you guys have great, great uhdiscussions. It's probably going blurry ken because
I keep talking with my hands,so I'm guessing it's it's screwing it up.
So I'm gonna stop talking with myhands, Gonna keep my hands down
to myself. Anyway. So tonight, tonight, like I said, we're
gonna do the normal Q and A. What's up top yo yo yo,

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We're gonna do the normal to Qand A. So if you have paranormal
related questions. Feel free to putthem in the chat room. Do me
a favor, put them in.Put the word question first, and then
type out your question that way.When I scroll through all the comments,
because the comments do have a habitof jumping on me. When I try
to scroll down, they sometimes jumpto the newest comment, So sometimes it's

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it's a pain and the ass.It's not you, guys, it's not
me. It's it's the way itbrings in the comments. So do that
for me. Please let me goover the rules for anyone that's here for
the first time. The rules arenumber one, this is open to paranormal
related questions in which I give youmy skeptical opinion. It doesn't mean it's

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always right. Doesn't mean you knowmy opinion is better than yours. It
doesn't. It just means that I'mcoming from a different perspective sometimes most of
the time, and that we canhave a discussion. Roll Number two is
that I don't know everything. Ireally don't. I know. I try
to learn everything I really do,but I'm nowhere near near like I know

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it all. But if I don'tknow something, I will certainly look it
up. I have enough screens hereon either side of this screen to look
stuff up and then we can talkabout it as I'm looking it up.
And if you guys have more information, feel free to post it in the
chat room, and especially if youhave links, if you have a link
to something that you're talking about,and send it because that'll be great.

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Role number three is basically, benice. Let's have discussions, let's talk
about things. Let's be nice aboutit and had just have friendly conversations.
Don't be a deck. That's thebottom line of that role. Don't be
a deck that that doesn't get usanywhere. So oh, let's let's see

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what's what's John Michael drinking? Drinkingsome wine called bacon that actually tastes like
bacon. I can't wow. Okayuh. Kimberly wants to know if I
checked on the vampire history. Idid not. I did not. Unfortunately,
it's my fault. I've been slacking. I was off all this week.

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Um, I was literally off allweek because I had a bunch of
time and the only time that Iactually could take off with this week.
So that's what I did. Andwe went traveling, and we did we
explored some places which you guys probablysaw if you subscribe to my knad Adventures
YouTube channel, you saw you sawthat we went out to a couple of
places. I think another video droptoday and then another video will drop Monday.

(06:51):
I think all the places that wewent to, and I've been trying
to catch up on some other work. I built a bed for my dog,
or not a bed, a rampfor my dog so she could get
up onto our bed because she's gettingold, so she needs a little help
here. So let me let mesee. Oh sorry, question, don't

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get snooty with me. No,let's see j D. J D has
a question. You and I establishedwhat I will do if I die and
come back as a ghost. Ifyou die eating this chip, what will
you do to prove your ghost?Okay, Joe? Little backstory. Earlier

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in the week, JD and Idid a a little video, impromptu video
that we popped up, and wesaid that if you guys would donate money
to the Cancer Research Institute, andif it totaled about one hundred dollars,
then JD was going to do theone chip challenge. This one chip challenge

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from I don't know how packy,packy. I think that's how you say
it packy. I'm not sure,but he would do this. And this
is like, um, inside oneextremely hot tortilla chip. It's the Carolina
Reaper and it's got one chip init. I'll open the box up so
you can see it. It's inthat bag, in that bag. I'm
not going to touch the bag becausethe last time I did and then touch

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my face it was fucking torture.So I'm not gonna touch it until later.
So with that um, some peopleTom started harassing me and say and
wanted to though if I would doit, and I'm I'm a total wors
I'm a total wish when it comesto the spicy stuff. But because I

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didn't think it would happen, Ifoolishly said, okay, if you hit
um, if we raise five hundredbucks, then I would do it with
him, that I would do thechip challenge with JD. Because I bought
myself one obviously more of a asa novelty. I didn't actually think I
was going to eat it. Andthen today somebody, Diana, decided to

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donate five hundred dollars so that thiswould happen. So now I am stuck.
I have to do it with jD. And this is all JD's
idea, so I want to makethat clear. It was his idea to
raise money, which is really awesome, and I really really appreciate what the
idea and raising money. So weraised I think altogether it was I think

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it came to like five hundred andfifty dollars that we raised for cancer research,
which is really really cool and it'sa good cause. And if I'm
going to be in pain for orboth JD and I, because I don't
think j D is that that bigold spicy stuff from the way he was
talking. Correct me if I'm wrong, JD, I know you're in the

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chat room. But so yeah,I think both of us are going to
suffer a lot. And because ofthat, I prepared and my wife Donna
will be coming up here, umtowards the end of the show when we
do this challenge, and she willbe taking over hosting duties so that I
can This show will still go oneven though I can't function. So there

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you go, all right, Solet's see. Let's see. Um.
So JD's question was, what willI do to prove you're a ghost if
I died? If I died,what will I do if if if I
to prove well, you know whatI I don't have like a secret code

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like Houdini had a they did theseance for well, they're still doing the
seance. UM. I was actuallyable to attend this year's seance for Houdini.
But for ten years his wife Bessheld a seance where they tried to
contact Hudini and they had a secretcode that was going on. But unfortunately
the secret code got out. Thesecret got out, and someone exploited that.

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Um. But I don't know.If I came back, I would
haunt all you motherfuckers. That's whatI would do. Every one of you.
You would know it's me. Iwould write my name in the steamed
up mirror in all of your bathroomswhenever you took showers. That's me.
That would be me, so youwould know. There you go, there
you go. If if I suddenlydie tonight, um, and then tomorrow

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you wake up, you before youcheck your phone, you know, to
see all the new stuff going onin the world, and you go take
a shower, and you come outof a shower and you look at the
mirror and it says Kenny was here. You know, it was me,
I died, and there you go. So there you Uh, let's say.
Oh and Tom coming in from YouTubewants to know the fourth rule.

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So the fourth rule, which probablywill not apply tonight, is that if
I get two intoxicated, because thisis a bar. This is a bar,
we drink while we're here. Ifthis is a bar, then uh,
and I drink too much and Istart slurring. You guys are supposed
to tell me so that we canend the show, but I don't think

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that's going to happen tonight. Uh. You know, you know, I
actually had someone send me an emailand called me an a fucking alcoholic because
of my show. Seriously, likeI pretty much drink Friday night when I
get home for the show, andthat's that's it. Maybe Saturday night once

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in a while I have a beer, but other than that, Like,
they called me a fucking alcoholic becausewhat they say something about all you do
is drink during your show, andyou're ridiculous and you're, well, you
know, skepticism is bullshit and stufflike that. But I was like,
wow, I took offense to thatalcoholic thing. I mean, I am

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professional, that's what I am,So screw you. Fucking alcoholic whatever.
All right, so let's see whatare you on a bartop? What are
you talking about? Oh she's Kimberlysays, you should dance in a g
strength? What on a bartop?I don't know what you're talking about?

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Oh all right, Tom says,okay, all taking bets on how long
Kenny lasts until he runs off camera. So remember this is me and j
D and oh wait, j JDsays, dude, I love spicy stuff,
but I think we're going to suffer. Dude. What's the code?
All right? We could talk later, JD. It's actually it's been published,

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um, and we can talk aboutthe code. The code was with
his wife and it had to doHoudinie and his wife. They had this
stage show going where it was itwas pretty much the beginning of mentalism.
And they had a code with certaincode words that when they would say it,
it would represent certain letters. Andthen so one of them could have

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a secret message and the other onecould be talking to them and the audience
would have no idea what they're talkingabout. Just it was casual conversation.
It was a conversation that if youheard it normally would seem like a normal
conversation, but certain words, certainkeywords in there represented certain letters and other
meetings, so they were able tocommunicate with each other, him and his

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wife across between the stage and theaudience, and be able to decipher a
message, and it seemed like hewas psychic. It was really cool.
It was really really detailed, andit's something that magicians use with mentalism acts
now and we can see that sometimeswhen Penn and Teller when they do their

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full US show. Really really cool, really sophisticated code but awesome, really
really cool UM. John Michael says, I think the code was Roosevella believe
there was, Yeah, that waspart of it. And again it's there
were a bunch of code words andthen that those code words added up to

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UM. The the the phrase whichwas inscribed. I didn't gonna get this
wrong, but there was an inscriptionI think in her ring in her wedding
ring that was part of the code. UM. Really cool stuff though,
really really cool UM. And it'san amazing thing when you read about it

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and then you read about the psychic, the name escapes you right now.
But the psychic that exploited it becausehe kind of started it sounds like he
started dating bess Um, Houdini's wifea little bit after a while after Houdini
died. Um. Maybe not dating, but trying to date. I think

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Um. And it was more forand exploitation, getting try trying to get
information from her. And I thinkit worked because he was able to get
the code, all right, whichwas actually published in a book. Um,
it's up here. I'm not goingto dig it out because there's there's
a lot of stuff in front ofit, but it was published in a
book like a year or two beforehand, so it was out there, so

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all you needed was a little bitmore information and you could crack the code.
Pretty cool, all right, SoKat says, Oh, I'll be
sure to turn my recorder on beforeI go to bed, just in case.
Nice Ted, what's up? Ted? Thanks for the queue, So
he says, Lately I have comeacross symbols in some paranormal cases. Usually

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I am able to find answers,but lately they are strange. Do you
have a go to book or onlinesearch areas? So this is interesting.
I haven't done this in a whilewhere it's where it's actually codes or not
codes, but symbols. If youcome across symbols. There's there's a couple
of books. I know that.There's like a encyclopedia that's out there.

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You can get it Barnes and Noble. It's an encyclopedia of symbols. That
may help. But if you simplydo a search, like usually I do
just a search on Google and describethe symbol like you know, two circles
with align this and that, andgo through it. I usually hit like
the images tab on Google and thenI'll go through all the images and you

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know, go from there. Ittakes time. If something doesn't come up
right away, it takes a longtime to go through it because you don't
know if you're just getting a symbol, you don't know the basis of it.
You don't know where it's coming from. So I mean, shit,
it could be a fucking Star Warssymbol. You know, they had their
own language, so a written language, which usually if I see it,

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I can I recognize it, like, oh shit, I know, I
know what that is. Let megive me a minute and I'll decipher it.
But as for any other symbols,I don't really have a go to
book. Um, it's it's justbasically Google. I don't come across it
in that much. I used to, like, I think there's shit maybe

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twice. I think twice in myearly years of like when I was still
a ghost hunter going into skepticism,that I came across a strange symbol on
a door or a wall, andthen I went from there. So I
mean, if you want to help, send me, send me a message,
send me a picture or sketch ofthe symbol, and I'll see if

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I can look it up. Idon't know. Do I have that book.
I don't think I have that book, but I can I can at
least try and help you out.Coming up, Bob, nice profile picks
Bob. He says, sorry,I'm officially joining out. I just dropped
off along the election analysis on myFacebook. Oh wow, you're a political

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junkie. No politics here. Thisis a politics free zone. Nothing but
ghosts and demons and Bigfoot and chupacabraand UFOs and aliens and green men and
anal probes. Wait what h all? Right? Ted says, you can't
be an alcoholic. You don't goto meetings. That's right. I don't
go to meetings. And this shipis good. This Hersey's Hersey stuff.

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Oh this is good stuff. Ilove this. Hey, Carol, good
to see it all right? Oh, John Michael has a question, what's
your opinion of Darren Brown. Idon't know who Darren Brown is, so
I'm gonna have to look it up. Uh, let's see Darren Darren Brown,

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let's say. Darren Brown is anEnglish mentalist, illusionist, painter,
and author. Since his television televisiondebut with Darren Brown Mind Control in two
thousand, Brown has produced several othershows for the stage and television, in
both series and specials. His twothousand and six stage show Something Wicked,
This Way Comes and his twenty twelveshow Oh My God. I can't pronounce

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that Sven sven Galli won him toLawrence Olive Awards for Best Entertainment. I
don't know. I'm not sure ifI saw these, but let me see
if you know, you didn't seeanything else? Uh? As for mentalism,

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Like, I can't really comment onthe guy because I'm not sure if
I've seen him or not. Itdoesn't look familiar. His face doesn't His
face kind of looks familiar. I'mnot sure if I've seen him, But
now I'm gonna have to. Letme get my trusty pad. Wait minute,
that doesn't belong I got my pad. Let me see Darren. I

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will look him up maybe tomorrow whenthe medics come and resuscitate me. Later
tonight, I will look him upand see what his shows are. But
I love mentalism, I really reallylove I've seen a bunch of different acts
that mostly are really impressive. It'sreally impressive, especially when you get into

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the background of it, figuring outhow they come up with these codes,
or figuring out the most common guessesand then pretty much betting on the common
thing, betting on people picking thesame numbers that most people would pick,
or seeing phrases or same words.It's really really cool. Let's see.

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I'm gonna move on because honestly,I can't give you a good answer.
I'm sorry, John, but I'lllook it up and maybe i'll get back
to you this week. Let's say, Bob says, what are your thoughts
on the Mandela effect? I thinkthat's so funny. The Mandela effect is
basically, when certain people remember somethingdifferently than what happened. Let me look

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up a good definition of it sothat I'm not I'm not screwing it up.
Mandela effect. All right, SoMandela effect is an unusual phenomenon where
a large group of people remember somethingdifferently than how it occurred. Conspiracy theorists
believe this is proof of an alternateuniverse. While many doctors use it as

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an illusion or illustration, I'm sorry, not an illusion. Many doctors use
it as an illustration of how imperfectmemory can be sometimes, and yeah,
I mean that's because the most commoncase is the Bernstein and Beerstein or bear
Stein Berestein bears and the Bearstein Bears. I don't know which one is correct.

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I remember Bearstein, and I thinkit actually has to do with the
spelling, um, the spelling ofthe name of the bears. I don't
honestly like when that comes up.When that particular um version of the Mandela
effect comes up, it's like,who the fuck cares? It's a children's

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book, you know, who cares? I used to read those books to
my my son, and maybe it'smaybe it's the pronunciation. I don't know.
But there's other Let's see, there'soh, here's forty Mandela examples.
Uh oh, there's one with curiousGeorge having a tail um some people apparently

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remember Curious Curious George having a taillike a long tail, but I believe
he never did. Uh yeah,he didn't. He didn't, He actually
didn't. So let's see, allright, what else is there. Let's
see, um, basically, NelsonMandela's death. That's the that's the one

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that started at all. And let'ssay, let's start with the reason we're
all here. Nelson Mandela, whothis theory is named after, died in
twenty thirteen. However, countless peopledistinctly remember him dying in prison in the
nineteen eighties, but his death isn'tthe only example of the Mandela Mandela effect.

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So that's that's the big one.And I do remember this being brought
up whenever this effect is is therethat people remember him dying in prison in
the nineteen eighties, but he infact did not. I think it's just
what is it? I mean,is it? Is it just the fact
that misinformation? I mean, todaywe have a lot of misinformation. I

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mean there's a lot, and itspread pretty quickly, but back in the
early like nineties, early two thousands, it didn't spread as quickly, and
I think the misinformation became ingrained.So it was. It was much easier
to take hold of people because itwas it was a lot harder to fact
check it. So I and thisis just me. This is just me.

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I don't know if this has anyany scientific basis whatsoever, but I
think it had something to do withjust misinformation being able to get into you,
get into your head and take rootand grow from there. And if
you didn't fact check it, ifyou didn't have an easy source of just

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picking up your phone and saying,oh, is this right? Like I
do every day, like is thisright, then you would grow up thinking,
Okay, maybe for the last tenyears you believed you heard a rumor
that Nelson Mandela died in prison,and that's what you grew up with.
So there you go, that's that'sthe information you grew up with. That's

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the information that you base everything offof. You know that has to do
with that topic. And then yougo about your life and you hear something
that's different, contradictory, and it'slike, what the fuck you know?
I don't know, don't know itall? HM. So yeah, my
thoughts on them in delo effect,I think it's a psychological issue, um,

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a lack of fact checking a notlaziness. It's not laziness. I
think it's just you heard something,you went with it, and that's it.
I don't know if that's a goodanswer for you. I don't know
if that's what you were looking for. But I mean, I don't have
too much else to go with onthat one. But appreciate the question,

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Cindy, what's up Cindy Eastman?That that looks like a new name?
Are you new? Awesome? Imean, if you are. If you're
not, then I'm embarrassed. Butif you are awesome, welcome. So
your opinion of my opinion of themothman. I've been out to um what
what's the town? Holy crap,what's the town in West Virginia? Point

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Pleasant, West Virginia. I've beenout there. I've seen the mounds,
I've seen all the places where theyallegedly had the sightings. I've seen the
bridge, I've seen the museum,and unfortunately, I mean, I don't
know what you're looking for here,but I'm going with the the owl hypothesis

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because the descriptions when you read theearly accounts, the very first accounts,
and that's always important. I mean, when you when you start investigating a
topic like this, well, anykind of topic, any kind of mystery,
you want to go to primary,primary sources. And when you go
to the primary sources, and yougo to the first sources, the first

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accounts that were given, and youcompare them, the four witnesses that initially
made the report, When you comparetheir reports together, they don't match up.
There's discrepancies, and there's there's enoughdiscrepancy there that Okay, they saw
something, but they didn't see amonster. They saw something they weren't used

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to seeing in an environment that promotedspookiness. It was at nighttime. They
were out at the uh the teenis the TNT bunkers, I think that's
what they were called, you know, and they saw this thing that flew
at them. Who knows. Itcould have been protecting its nest. Whatever

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it flew at them, Did itfly alongside the car like almost all the
way back to town? I don'tknow. I mean, I obviously I
wasn't there, and we don't haveany other records except for the people that
were saying what happened. So doI think my opinion of them off?
Man? I think it's a goodstory, but I don't think it's an

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actual monster. I don't think it'sa creature that that was real. It
was a owl that was misidentified andunder the conditions I think they were.
They were stressed, they were panicked, they were scared. They saw this
big thing because you know what,tell you what, I've seen owls on
TV and it's no big deal.Like you see them like, oh cool,

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you know, they're cool looking,they're cute. But when I've seen
them in like life, in reallife and not just at the zoo,
when I've had the opportunity to seethem in the wild, and they're big
motherfuckers. They're as scary as shit. I wouldn't fuck with them. And
if I saw that thing coming atme in the dark, yeah I probably

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run too. I mean definitely run. You see them calls holy shit.
Yeah. So I think it wasjust a misinterpretation packaged with fear, and
so they gave a story, andunfortunately the account grew and and it became

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much more than than the four peoplethat originally witnessed it. So I don't
Yeah, I don't think. Idon't think it's anything. Um, I
think it's a cool legend. That'sabout it. Uh, Carol, I
don't see. I don't I don'tknow if you finished hyping your question.
I'm not sure what happened there.Let's see, Uh, Stacy, you

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were watching a movie. What thehell, Stacy, It's Friday night.
Hello, I'm just kidding. Iappreciate you, you know, putting off
your movie and coming over here.Um, for those of you that are
asking, the Chip challenge will becoming soon, not yet, though.
We're gonna get through most of theQ and A first, and then we're

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gonna do the challenge. So therewe go. Okay, So Stacy Um
offers this only opinion I have isthat Silver Bridge collapse happened sixteen years to
the day I was born. It'sit's it's not funny, Um, like
ha ha, It's it's funny,isn't. It's weird that the Silver Bridge

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collapse is blamed on a mythical creature. UM. I do believe. Like
I'm not up to date on this, I haven't read it recently, but
I do believe there was structural issueswith the bridge and that's why it collapsed,
not because of some mythical owl mancreature. UM that that was seen.

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I don't think that's I don't knowwhy people make that connection, but
I'm pretty sure it was structural integrityissues um that caused the bridge collapse,
not a mothman sighting, JD says. Mandela Effect, Darth Vader is saying
Luke, I am your father.Wrong. Yes, that's that's a perfect
example most so many people. AndI think that this is a good example

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because it gets into the pop culturereference because you see so many people reference
that on television shows and in reallife. You know, kids growing up
seeing that they would recite the lineLuke, I am your father. When
he went Darth Vader didn't say Luke. He never said Luke, I am

(32:21):
your father. He says, no, I am your father, just like
JD says, I mean, that'sa perfect that awesome, man, you
brought it all together. Star Warsparanouble Mandela Effect answering a question. I'll
love it, but yeah, Imean that's that's. People remember it one
way and they will swear by it. I mean I remember having well,

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I mean take this as you will, having a drunken conversations in a bar
with fellow geeks about this kind ofthing where they said something about it,
you know, they were doing alightsaber battle with you know, forks and
spoons, and somebody said, Luke, I am your father, and it
came up like no, no,no, he didn't say that, And

(33:04):
then you get you know, geeksare they're pretty fierce when they start arguing.
But um, yeah, that's that'sa good example, good one,
j D. I appreciate that.Let's see um going through looking through so
many questions here, uh m hmmmmbridge thing. Uh. John Michael says,

(33:31):
I in no way believe the Mandelaeffect has ending ending anything to do
with the paranormal. And I knowit's me miss remembering, but I'll still
fight someone they tell me the MonopolyMan never had a monocle. That's also
a popular one. M hm thathe uh that the Monopoly guy had a

(33:52):
monocle and he never did. Henever did, I because when that came
up, I actually searched for itand I could not find an official picture
with him wearing a monocle. Soall right, I love I love this.
I love the conversation going on inthe chat room. That's really cool.

(34:14):
All right. Carol's question, haveyou reviewed all the main types of
ghost hunting equipment? If not,what do you have left to review the
main types? I think that's apretty subjective kind of question there, because
it's like, who could what's consideredmain types. I've done reviews of the

(34:36):
K two meter, the SLS camera, I've done the rampod, I've done
cameras, audio equipment. What elseis there? Dusing rods I've done testing,
I haven't done I don't think I'vewritten up anything on dalsing rods.
Uh, particularly Wuiji boards, I'vedone that. What else is there?

(35:00):
The obelist? I haven't written upanything officially because it was just I feel
it's a waste of time because itsays on the fucking front of it,
and I'm not I'm not yelling atyou, Carol. I'm saying in general,
it fucking says for entertainment purposes only. So if you're using that as
a legitimate device, that's on you. Um, but it says for entertainment

(35:23):
purposes only. So yeah, Uh, what else is there? A flashlight
trek I've done that, I've donea video on that where it's just that's
I can't believe people fucking felt forthat. Wow, that's just amazing.
Um, what else I don't knowwhat else is the main would be considered

(35:45):
main. I did a static dome. I think I wrote up the one
that Bob Christopher did, But therest of them are pretty much the same.
There's there's no difference. I meanthey use the same components and and
anything you have to watch with that, like static electricity devices. They all

(36:06):
use the same uh the same parts. Um, what is it called the
MPF one o two? Uh notsensor, I forget what it's called.
But that's the MPF one oh twois what they use in the static devices,
which is all the same thing.So doesn't matter what company quote unquote

(36:30):
that you get it from. It'sthe same thing I've done. The cat
balls. That's funny. Where theguy from UM ghost Hunters Academy or whatever
desbins he starts selling cat toys.They're a little plastic balls. Um do
I have to cover? I thinkI have to cover? Oh, here

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they are. I don't have theactual balls UM in them. But this
is the one that was being soldto ghost Hunters UM. And it was
the same exact thing as this one, the emotional activated cat toy. But
this one was like three times moreexpensive than this one and the same the
same exact parts, which is totalrip off, total rip off. UM.

(37:15):
But I am working on others.Um. It's just it's just it's
time consuming, and I don't ifI don't get the device, it's hard
to review it without actually having one. And they're so expensive. They're so
expensive. I mean, some ofthese things are only worth like five or
ten dollars and they're being sold forlike one hundred and fifty two hundred,

(37:37):
three hundred dollars. And it's it'sjust it's not UM, it's not within
my budget to get these things justto test them, because I do test
them and then I'll I end upripping them apart because I want to see
what's inside, you know, Andsometimes they go back together, Okay,
sometimes they don't. UM, likethe Rempod. That's they're usually glued shut

(38:00):
and the only way to see what'sinside of them is to literally destroy it.
So like the Rempod that I had, I tested, they opened it
up, found what was inside,realized it was a ten dollar part,
and that's it. Like, Ican't play with it anymore, except for
I still can play with the componentsbecause I still had the Junior Thermin Kid

(38:23):
from that rempod. I put itback together, but the rempod itself,
the whole casing thing is destroyed becauseI had to cut it open. So
but I'm getting there. You know, if a new device comes up,
I'll get to it. I'll tryto get to it because I do love
testing them, testing them. Ilove looking at the claims that people make

(38:44):
about them. Nicholas, when Alicecan get big, yes they can,
they can get huge. Uh.Dan Webster, Oh, this is gonna
be good. So he has aquestion, and he says, I have
read that sniffing the spice rosemary canimprove your memory by seventy to They claim

(39:07):
to support this scientifically. Have youheard of this? And does this clean
past the Biddle test? I havenever remembered my dreams very rarely since I
started sniffing this spice. Every day, I remember three or four dreams a
night. I can't say for sureit's improved my memory, but it's very
coincidental that all of it started whenI began sniffing spice. I don't have

(39:32):
any stats in front of me forthis kind of thing. I can look
it up. Let me see memoryin all this stuff that I've read.
Let me let me get this outof the way, so I can see
you, guys, well, soyou can see me. I can't see
you. In the stuff that I'veread, the scientific literature that deals with

(39:53):
memory, nothing has ever come upabout sniffing, is it, Rosemary?
Nothing has come up with that I'veheard. I've seen people come up with
it um or or write about it, and it's usually metaphysical sites um or

(40:14):
wellness sites. But in the scientificliterature, I have not seen this at
all. So that's why you know, I'm kind of at a loss to
give you a good opinion of this. Um with you remembering you said you
remember three or four dreams at night, that's that's a little hard to to

(40:38):
believe because no one I've I've everspoken with or or talked to about this,
or nothing that I've ever read hasindicated that people read or remember three
to four dreams per night that theyonly remember the last one. Um.
Now, I don't know. We'veshould probably talk a little bit more about

(41:01):
this, maybe offline a little lateror this weekend. But that that's troubling
to me, and troubling not inlike you know, there's a problem,
but troubling is in I don't seethat happening. But of course, I
mean, if you're making the claim, then maybe there's something to it and
we have to look into it alittle deeper. But I don't um as

(41:25):
for scientifically let me let me goback to your question here and make sure
that I'm addressing this right. Uh, there's a past to biddle test well.
You know, I don't know.I really don't know. Again,
I haven't seen it in any ofthe scientific literature, so I don't see
how I mean, because I knowI know our factory. Uh, senses

(41:51):
really can can bring about memories.It's a powerful tool to cause you to
remember remember something. You you smellsomething, it causes a memory to coming
back. Um, I'm at aloss, I really am. I don't.
I don't know enough about this topicto give you a good answer.

(42:12):
Um, but I'm gonna that's gonnago in my uh in my notes here.
Memory. How do you spell memory? There you go, memory and
going with Rosemary, right, RosemaryRosemary? Like that's now that I think
about it, Rosemary is not it'snot the the what the scent that I

(42:35):
recall. I don't recall exactly whatpeople used to say, but I don't
think it. I don't think itwas Rosemary. I don't know. I
could be wrong, because I havebeen known to be wrong often. Um,
But I don't know. I'll haveto get back to you on that.
But that's a good one, danUm. I mean it could also
be because your your mindset is different. You have to take that into account

(42:58):
too, because if you decide thatyou want to start trying to improve your
memory or remember certain things, especiallyif you're if this is dreamed, if
you start getting up in the morningand purposely, like you go to sleep
thinking I want to remember my dreams, and then get up in the morning,
and that's the thought that pops intoyour head. I want to remember

(43:20):
and you start writing it down,then you're it becomes more of a self
fulfilling prophecy rather than I'm just gonnasniff this and I start remembering everything better.
And I wouldn't actually say that rememberingdreams is a is a testament to

(43:40):
improved memory. Memory has all We'retalking about different things here, like memory
is what like old memories from whenyou were a child growing up, or
are these memories from you know,witnessing an event like a car crash that
happened, or some kind of likea pro test details of our protests that

(44:00):
happened recently, because you know thatthey're happening in all over place now,
or something like that. There's differentavenues that we go down with this.
But I mean, we can certainlytalk later a little bit more in depth,
get more details about this. Hitme up tomorrow if I'm still alive

(44:22):
after tonight, because I'm still notanticipating living through this experience to night.
But I hope that I would hopethat at least satisfied you for the moment,
and then we can talk more later. All right, let me see.
Nicholas says he has reviewed a tonof equipment. Most are useless.

(44:44):
Thanks Nick, I appreciate it.Um, yeah, I try. I
mean sometimes I write a whole reviewof it of a piece of equipment when
I really can get it into detailabout it. But other times it's I
I just throw up a post,you know, basically say like, don't
waste your your money on this,This a piece of shit. So it

(45:06):
depends on how much time I haveand how much testing I get done with
a piece of equipment, because it'snot something that just happens where it's like,
all right, I have an afternoonand I'll just test this. You
have to test the claims that arebeing made if you can, because if
if if a device says, hey, this detects ghosts, that is not

(45:28):
a testable claim. It's it's simplynot because you can't You can't prove that
whatever is making this thing go offis a ghost. But I can look
at the components and say, Okay, this is what this is actually designed
to do. Let me see ifit does that properly, and then what
else can make this go off?We've talked about it before. Like the

(45:50):
rempods, you can easily make offor make off. You can make them
go off with a two way radio, and you can do it from like
thirty to forty fifty feet, especiallyif you're inside of a house that declines
a little bit more or decreases whenyou're outside in open air. But like
stuff like that horrible k two metersforget it. Two way radio and you

(46:15):
can make that thing go off allnight from almost anywhere in the house.
Let's see, uh, Cindy Eastman, there have been numerous sightings in Chicago
lately, ah oh Man, thoseum oh what's her name? What's her
name? Uh, there's a womanthat, oh, I forget her name.

(46:39):
There's a woman that investigated these claims, the Chicago claims, and was
able to find um logical explanations forpretty much all of them. Um,
she really dove dove deep into them, deep dive deep deep deep dive into
them and was able to find explanations. Oh what was her name? Um?

(47:02):
I just I actually talked to hera few weeks ago. Um online,
we had a meeting with her.I'm gonna, oh, correct,
So I'm gonna write your name down, and I'm gonna look up the name
of the woman that did this,and I'm gonna get back to you.
I'm gonna let you know her namewho investigated Chicago, uh, Mothman,

(47:36):
And I'll let you know. I'llput you in touch with her, or
you can look up her work.She wrote I think an article or a
couple of articles, maybe a seriesof articles that dealt with a lot of
these claims. And she got alot of slack for it, a lot
of slack from um believers of Mothman, and uh, you know, unwanted

(47:57):
and sometimes very very nasty, likeunprofessional and and just total bullshit, um
slack for it. But she dida good job. I read some of
her work and I was I waspretty impressed with what she did. Um
let's see, let's see, Stacysaid says, al's have skinny ant's legs

(48:20):
their their entire body. Oh mygood goodness. I saw one without like
any of its feathers and it's it'sstuff of nightmares. Cat Ward has a
question, what are your thoughts onghost lights such as our men men lights
which are part of lore here?So ghost lights are um, it depends

(48:43):
on the situation. Because there's afew instances of ghost lights here in the
States that they often turn out tobe headlights or car lights because you're you're
looking. When you start looking atthe direction where the ghost lights come up,
you can line it up with usuallylike a mountain or a very high

(49:04):
level, high level mound or highwayor freeway, in which case, at
one point headlights or car lights arevisible and it might not be the entire
time that the car is driving alongthe path, but it's brief enough and
long enough to catch someone's attention.Sometimes train lights. It really has to

(49:30):
do with the situation. I can'tcomment on all of them, because every
situation is different, every every casereally has to be investigated separately. It's
not just across the board answer thatgoes with that. You really have to
see what's going on. And intoday's world, I mean, I don't
know if you're talking about the minmin lights. Let me let me look

(49:52):
that up. Let me look itup and see if there's something real quick
I can. I can look atmin in ghost lights, ghost lights,
men min uh. Let's say,oh, what's this? Menmon lights?
Is there a scientific explanation? ABCdot Com? Let's see this is menmon

(50:16):
lights are mysterious phenomenon that have spookedmany people in the outback of Australia.
But is there any scientific proof thatmenmon lights exist? Resistibly, folk tell
lights have been described by witnesses asfloating, fast moving balls of color that
glow in the night sky and stalkpeople, leaving some feeling confused and frightened.

(50:40):
Sometimes the lights are blue and othertimes they are white or yellow.
Interesting and as I scroll down Isee something? This is what does science
say? Let's see. Curtis Roman, a senior lecturer at Charles Darwin University,
is gathering stories from Indigenous Australians aboutminmen lights as part of the ongoing

(51:04):
research project. Although he is onlyin the early stages of his research,
Doctor Roman said that all the Indigenouspeople he had interviewed so far describe how
frightened they were, so this doesn'tgive a explanation at all. It pretty
much just describes the light. It'sclickbait. I clicked on clickbait. That's

(51:24):
what I did. So I'll haveto look into him a little bit more
and see if I can come upwith anything. Wow, I'm like twenty
minutes behind on the questions. Sorryabout that, guys. Let's see.
So yeah, I'm gonna that'll goon my list the let's see man man

(51:45):
and lights. That's funny min minlights. All right, let's see.
Loki says, have you seen allthe dead deer on the side of the
road and valley forge? Oh mygoodness, yes, going down, going

(52:06):
down the questions. Here the comments, the comments, the comments are awesome.
Let's see. John Michael says,I believe. According to Investigating Ghost
by Ben Raffert, the person whomade the obelist says he doesn't even believe
in ghosts and made them purely becausehe knew people would buy them. So

(52:27):
I don't remember the exact quote,but there was a article in Scientific American
Scientific America where they did they dida piece on ghost something equipment and Ben
was interviewed, I was interviewed,and Sharon Hill was interviewed and we all

(52:50):
talked about it. And in thatpiece, Bill Chappell was also interviewed,
and yes he did. He didsay in that interview that he doesn't even
believe that ghosts. Ghosts are real, He doesn't believe in ghosts, and
he just he just built this.I don't think he actually came out and
said, you know, he knewpeople would buy it and that's why he

(53:13):
did it. But just the factthat he doesn't believe in ghosts, he
doesn't actually have to say that hebuilt this device just, you know,
just because he knew people would buyit. Saying that you don't believe in
something exists, yet selling a devicethat allegedly talks to those things that don't
exist to you, that to mesays you're in it for the money.

(53:40):
So yeah, I mean nothing,he built nothing. Bill Chappell builds I
would take seriously because it's all forentertainment purposes. Only. I mean,
like I said, the obelist doI no, I don't have it here,
um, but it clearly states onthe front of it for entertainment purposes
only. That's that's your clue.That's seriously your clue. And again I

(54:04):
said it before. If you're usingit and you're you're taking it seriously,
that's on you. Jackass Um,you should be using it. Oh my
goodness. Uh Carol says I shouldwrite a book on all the equipment.
Uh, you know, I'm backand forth with the book thing, because

(54:28):
I know it's it's out there,it's it's something to do. It's but
I don't. I don't. Ithink I reach more people doing what I
do now rather than putting a bookin like Barnes and Noble, you know,
or on Amazon. I don't thinkpeople are going to buy a book
by a skeptic. I think thereare a ghost hunter. They already believe

(54:50):
that the equipment doesn't work or doeswork. If they're a ghost hunter and
they're a believer, they believe theghost hunting equipment works. So why buy
a book from a skeptic. UmAnd then if a skeptic buys the book,
then you know, I'm almost preachingto the choir. So I'm really
back and forth with writing something likethat. I don't think I would do

(55:12):
it on just the equipment. Thatwould probably be like a chapter and just
you know, like this piece ofequipment bullshit, this piece of equipment bullshit.
But I would explain why, becausethat's what I do. Uh.
Let's say, Um, Tom hasa question, what was the one device

(55:35):
that you had the most fun withtaking part? Taking a part to investigate
the inner workings. M that's agood question. I really love going through
all of them. Um, therempod was fun. The Rempod was really
fun because it was there was somuch fucking glue in that, so much
clue. I mean it was reallylike handfuls of glue that I cut out

(56:00):
of that in order to get it. Almost looked like because the rimpod comes
in this cylinder, it's a PVCcylinder that's about like that big, and
there were I think three layers ofcardboard in there and in between it it
looked like they just took a hotglue gun and just stick after stick of

(56:22):
glue they just piled in there.Um. So that that was a lot,
But once I got to it,and realized, oh shit, you
know this is what it is andlooked it up online and found out it
was a ten dollar apart and theywere selling rampods I think for one hundred
and fifty dollars at the time,So that was that was a lot of

(56:43):
fun. Um. Well, ofcourse, the when I got them the
periscope three sixty from my my friendJJ, who fucking hates me so much.
That was fun taking apart because mostlyfor principle, because I I somebody

(57:06):
had donated the device and another deviceof his to me um to test to
figure out what was going on,and I just posted a picture holding both
of them and say, hey,I'm gonna I'm gonna take these apart.
I forget what exactly what I said, but I'm gonna. I think I
think I said like I'm gonna biddlizethese or something like this and figure out
what's really going on. And theguy went ballistic, the guy that builds

(57:29):
them, um JJ. He wasso pissed off. And then we talked
on the phone, well I talked, he yelled m and made lots of
threats um, which were funny.UM. But that was actually fun because
even though he this guy's did it'sjust a jackass um and pretty mean,

(57:53):
uh and greedy. It was funtaking it apart to see how it worked
and understand what was going on andrealized like this is this is just like
a dozen other gadgets that are outthere and it really doesn't do anything.
Um, So those I think.Oh, the the Xbox Connect, that

(58:15):
was another good one. That wasa real good one. I mean I
really loved I loved the detail thatI got into with that because it wasn't
just about testing, um the equipmenton how it reacts during a ghost hunt.
I spoke to people at Microsoft,which was really cool. I love
being able to do that. Imean, that's when you start getting into

(58:37):
like companies, like companies that don'thave anything to do with ghost hunting.
You get into the primary companies thatmanufactured this ship. It's really cool talking
to them because most times when youwhen you explain like hey, i'm you
know, ghost hunters are using this, I'm trying to figure out what's going
on here, you know, whatare they seeing? What's happening? And

(59:00):
once you say that to them thatthey kind of relax, you know that
they get into it. They're like, oh, really that's what they're using
it for. Oh, let metell you about this, and they give
you all this information and it's reallyfascinating to learn the same happened when I
when I was I was looking intothe Trifield meter from Alpha Labs. I

(59:21):
actually talked to the president of AlphaLabs, who manufactures this very expensive piece
of equipment that ghost Owner's hues,and it was he was a great guy.
We talked for like an hour anda half, two hours on the
phone, and it was just nicethat I could throw questions at him and
he was like he was on theball. He knew exactly what I was

(59:42):
talking about and said, all right, yeah, this is how it actually
works the way they did it onthe show. No they didn't. It
didn't. It doesn't work like that. So I mean, I can't pick
one, I know, because Ijust gave you four. But it's just
I think everyone that I really getinto is fascinating because the amount of information
that I find out that I learnedthat it broadens my understanding so much better.

(01:00:07):
I'm oh my god, I loveit. I love that shit.
Good question, Tom, Thank you. H Let's say all right, I'm
going down. I'm going down thequestion here. Oh, they're talking about

(01:00:28):
the sense specific sense linked to memories, not a scent in general that helps
improve memory. Huh, I don'tknow, oh, Bob's question. Bob's
comment Before that, he says,I plan on plan to cover topics like
sense and memory in the podcast.I am starting in the new year,
so there is some connection to smellsand memory, but it will not improve

(01:00:49):
memory. Thank you, Bob.I appreciate that. Oh. He also
follows up with in regards to thescent and memory question, I am not
familiar with the scientific literature, buthas it been replicated? Yeah, I
don't. I don't know. Again, in any of the scientific literature that
I've written, I've read um likeElizabeth Loaftus, who is she's the foremost

(01:01:15):
expert in the world about memory.M I've never read anything that I can
recall that she anything about sense umspecific sense that would improve memory. Show.
Let's see, uh talking about Ilove the conversations that go on.
This is so cool. I'm actuallystarting to catch up because everyone's talking and

(01:01:38):
no one's asking questions. That's awesome. That's awesome. Let's say. Let's
see. I'm almost there. I'mcatching up. I'm catching up. I
don't see any other questions. Awesome, damn straight csf fellow. Oh so
there you go. Oh oh,thank you for bringing that up. I

(01:01:59):
have to let me see h seeabove my head weight. Let me let
me raise this up a little bit. There it is there, it is
right there. Big announcement, UMand I kind of said it last week,
but this is a big honor forme, this plaque right here.
Oh my god, I love it. I love it. Um. So.

(01:02:21):
I write for Skeptical Inquiry Magazine UM, their online magazine, and it's
a column that I write. Theygave it to me. They let me
pretty much pick my topics. Oncein a while, they give me a
topic to really investigate if it's inthe news and it's it's, you know,
something that's really current. But I'vebeen doing that for two years now.
I've been able to do some lecturesfor them and other events and I

(01:02:45):
helped them out. And it's abig science organization. It's it's it's the
biggest skeptical science organization pretty much inthe world. UM and I'm so happy
to be part of it. Andone of the big honors that you can
receive is being elected a Fellow,which is like it's it basically means that

(01:03:12):
you've contributed to the scientific community immensely. You've done a lot of work.
You've you've contributed, You've helped peopleout, You've promoted not only skepticism but
critical thinking. You've helped people likekids, students, classes, lectures,
whatever, to improve critical thinking,to improve knowledge, to improve the scientific

(01:03:36):
understanding of things. And it's somethingthat several years ago I sat in Barry
Carr's office, who is the executivedirector of the Center for Inquiry, and
I sat in his office. Wewere chatting about something. I looked up
on the wall and there was aplaque there that had his name and it
said a Fellow on it and andI remember sickly sending there, going I

(01:04:02):
want one of those? How doI get one of those? And Barry
he was talking to me, andhe made a comment like, you know
people are watching your work already,you know, just keep doing what you're
doing. And here I am twoyears later and I get an email saying
that, um, hey, youknow, the executive counsel of the Center

(01:04:25):
for Inquiry or the the Center fora Skeptical Inquiry has voted to invite you
to become a fellow UM, whichis like one of those big honor things.
UM. And and I'm just like, I pretty much cried when I
when I got into mail. UM. So that came a couple of days
ago last week. And oh,it's nice. It's so nice. It's

(01:04:51):
so nice. I love it.It's it's you know what, because I
love I absolutely love helping as muchas I can. UM. I've the
opportunity to go to classrooms, toactually go to schools and go into a
classroom and talk to the kids anduse paranormal topics you know, ghosts and

(01:05:13):
UFOs and big foot and stuff,and use them to to not only to
capture that interest, but to seethe flame of knowledge, you know,
like the curiosity in their eyes,like they're really into it. And then
rather than just say you know,it's all fake, really get into it,
get into nitty gritty of the scienceand critical thinking and looking at things

(01:05:40):
closer and looking at the details,and seeing their eyes light up because they're
learning and they're understanding. Oh mygod, I fucking love that. I
love that. UM. And somethinglike this when this comes along, it's
just I don't have the words Ireally don't. It makes me makes me

(01:06:00):
so happy that it's it's it's I'mI'm doing good, I think, and
uh, it's awesome and I'm seeingall the comments coming in and it's really
cool. Thank you guys. Iappreciate every everything that you guys are saying
because it's awesome. I mean,it's really cool, and um, it
just makes me want to do stuffmore, you know. I just it
drives me to do more. AndI have been doing doing more. I've

(01:06:23):
been helping. Uh, I've beenin contact with a few teachers and and
things are happening. I got someideas that are brewing. So I'm hopefully,
well not hopefully, I'm going tocontinue this for many, many,
many, many many years. Umto being a thorn in the side of
you know, people that hate me. But anyway, I digress. Let

(01:06:47):
me bring the camera down a littlebit. I know, fuck it,
I'm just gonna leave it up therebecause I'm so proud of it. All
right. Uh, let's say Ithink I'm caught up on a lot of
the comments. I see a lot. You guys are awesome. I love
it. Let's see, well deservesthat you guys are awesome. It's like

(01:07:10):
winning the photo. You guys areawesome. Thank you, Buster Williams.
You dude, you got a fuckingawesome name. I love that, Buster
Williams. That's cool. Let's see. Carol says, well, I would
have a group of friends interested inpamra Wall who were drawing me in because

(01:07:30):
I wanted to believe. But Istill want it real info on these things,
so I could help these friends withcritical thinking, like the EVP radio
scanner thing. Loved that, andthen the videos and photos and here I
am every weekend. But I buylots of books. You know. That's
I can't stress that enough. Youknow, like you can find stuff online

(01:07:51):
all the time, but the goodstuff is in books. It really is.
I still have tons of books.All the books that you see,
all the books that you see there, all those are books behind some of
the figures and all that stuff.All those shells have books. And I
literally have shit four bins. Ihave a big ben and I have three

(01:08:18):
big bags of books um down inthe basement that I that I reference all
the time because there's some information thatyou can only find on those books,
and it's it's really really cool.Um So I definitely say by books by
more Books. I just bought thisbook. Hold on, I see it.
Just bought this book, Amazing butBoss, pretty cool book recommended by

(01:08:44):
Ben Rafford Um to me, weactually uh gave me a little mystery that
was in here um to solve andI was able to solve it in the
day. Ha ha. Take that, Ben, Um. But it was
actually a pretty cool book. It'sfilled with a lot of interesting facts that
you would think was were true,but it's they're not, and it gives

(01:09:05):
you the information. The forward isby James Randy. So this is my
recommended book, Amazing but False byDavid. I'm not even gonna try to
say that name. I'm gonna putit up here, see you guys,
and see it. There you go, that's his name. Forward by James
Randy, So check it out.I actually talked to Um, the author

(01:09:29):
and the illustrator because of the littlethings that the little mystery that was presented
to me because of that book.So there you go. Uh one chip
challenge, it's coming. Don't worry. A couple of minutes. A couple
of minutes. Actually let me letme get the invite. Here's because I
got to send it to j Dso he can come on UM and do

(01:09:55):
the chip challenge with me. ButU, let's see, let's see if
he likes this idea. Let's see. Uh. I'm going through the questions
or the comments right now, makingsure that I'm all caught up. There
you go, there you go.Oh, my my guest host is here.

(01:10:18):
My guest host has come in.Let me put the camera down a
little bit before I go. There'sthere's my wife, Donna. Say hi
to Donna. She's gonna take overwhen I die. So all right,
UM, So, one thing Iwanted to tell you guys, before you

(01:10:39):
know we get into this is thatI got this this little prompt back here,
which is pretty cool. UM.If you haven't read my article,
my latest article, I did aUM breakdown at a nineteen hundred Irish photograph
UM that allegedly had a phantom handin it, and it was actually by

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JD. Actually brought it up duringone of the shows and I was able
to not only get through and describeexactly what had happened. I'm not going
to give you any spoilers. Youhave to go read the article. But
in the article, I wrote aboutearly retouching of photographs well before computers,

(01:11:20):
no photoshop, and exactly how peoplewould touch up photos. They could actually
like take out blemishes, they couldtake out There's actually like an image in
the article embedded in the article wherea woman has like this big bulge on
her neck and the retouchers take itout. They also make people thinner too,

(01:11:40):
which everybody want it back then,because now they were used to portraits
being painted back in the old days, where you could tell the painter,
make me thinner, that's it,and they did, but the camera I
didn't do it. So I wasable to actually acquire an antique retouching desk,
which is what this is back here. This is from as far as

(01:12:05):
I know, this is from nineteeneleven, and it's really really cool.
You would take the old photographs whichwere on glass plates, and the glass
plate would go here. This isactually like a frosted glass here, and
this would sit by the window.There's a mirror this part under here that

(01:12:25):
moves. That's a mirror, andit would reflect the sunlight coming in the
window on the back of the frostedglass. And you could actually work on
the negative on here. And itwas really really cool. But I was
able to pick this up really reallycheap because it was missing one leg.
But I don't care about that.I can actually build that. But that
was cool somethew I want to sharewith you guys. So let's see what

(01:12:50):
else we got here. We gotDavid David Pike saying, my buddy Scott
is doing a ghost investigation somewhere upnear French Lick, Indiana. He just
text me and said something grabbed himas in not of this world. Can
you explain why people think something asin ghosts grabbed them? I'll throw in

(01:13:13):
I was on an investigation at PerryvilleBattlefield one time and lady claimed something touched
grabbed her arm, and she wasa big skeptic on the existence of ghosts.
So that actually it's good that you'rehere because you had an experience like
that when we went to Whitehill Mansionand we were walking in the basement and
you had cobwebs actually get touch andtangle your hair and you thought something was

(01:13:41):
I was grabbing you. So itdepends on the situation. But sometimes,
like with that, we were ina basement, it was dark, and
if you had cobwebs, which isI mean, that's just standard procedure,
there's going to be cobwebs because inold places like that, they're going to
be bugs and shit like that.So the cobwebs were hanging down and it

(01:14:01):
just caught on her hair. Andespecially when people with longer hair, it's
gonna catch and pull. It's gonnafeel like it pulls because of that stickiness.
Other things let's see grabbed him.We'd have to know the details of
what happened there, where they are, what they were doing at the time,

(01:14:23):
and then really get into that people. It depending on how many clothes
clothes you have on. Sometimes ifyou move, the clothing shifts, and
if you're in an environment where you'rehyper sensitive because you think shit's going on,
you might you might think something grabbedyou. But okay, so with

(01:14:46):
that, I'm gonna cut off thequestions and we're gonna get to the torture
part. JD's in the background.I see him smiling already, so I'm
gonna bring him on. I'm gonnaswitch seats with Donna so she's a part
of the show, and then Ithink I'm gonna pee first because I gotta
bee. So you know what jD hold on in the background I'm gonna

(01:15:08):
play my commercial real quick, andthen when we come back, we're gonna
switch everything and we're gonna get tothis challenge so that people can see us
die. So with that, I'mgonna get ready because it's got like a
minute and a half for my commercialsand then we'll be right back. All

(01:15:28):
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I switched places. Let me bringon j D. Body, I had
to let me see hold on,let me fix this. Here here we
go, all right. Can youhear us? Good? Yep? Can
you hear me? I can hearyou. You got your chip right here?

(01:17:13):
All right, so we gotta wegotta go. When he moved the
mike here so you can hear megood? All right, So everybody at
home, this is the background onthis really quick. Uh. J D
had an idea. UM, weactually talked about this. I posted a
picture of of this where where Ipicked those up at the local wahwah,

(01:17:38):
and uh, basically he won itone because he's never been able to get
one. So I picked up anotherone. I sent it to him,
and then he had this idea thatwe should we could raise some money for
charity, which I'm always on boardwith. UM, so we put it
out there. We did a videoUM in the beginning of the week where

(01:18:02):
basically we said if we reached onehundred dollars, then j D would eat
this chip and this is supposed tobe like a really hot, really really
torturous piece of hell that that thatpeople should not eat. Um. So
basically it was if we got onehundred dollars, then he was going to

(01:18:25):
do this challenge, and that likeevery five dollars after that, we'd add
a minute on where he could notlike drink any milk or do anything like
that. I have no such rules, um. But um, somebody Tom
made some comments in the chat roomlast week about I should do it with

(01:18:46):
him, and I kind of figured, you know, all right, well,
I don't want to do this becauseI am totally a wos with um
with spicy stuff, totally a wose. I don't do spicy at all.
So I said, all right,if we hit five hundred dollars for the
Cancer Research Institute, then I'll doit with JD. That was my mistake

(01:19:14):
because today, um, somebody Dianauh donated five hundred dollars UM to the
Cancer Research Institute. So, um, we I think we're up at like
I think I said, like fivehundred and forty forty dollars, I think,
um, so that means that Ihave to do it with you,

(01:19:38):
j D. Yeah, and I'mscared, chillless. I am scared because
I don't like doing this. Idon't like spicy stuff. And uh but
on the other side, UM,I don't. I don't back away from
a challenge. I said it,so I'm gonna stick to it. And
uh so what do you think?What's your what's your final words before we

(01:20:01):
both die? Uh? I'm gladwe could do this for a good cause.
Uh. And I'm ready for aworld of pain. Yeah. Oh
I love this. I love yeah. Oh, let's see wishing you luck.

(01:20:23):
All right, hold on, letme get let me get my global
Diana post that I release you both. No, too late, too late,
Diana. We agreed to it,so we're gonna do it. Uh.
Hey, Stacy, I donate itbecause my husband is a cancers fiber

(01:20:44):
as his Donna. That's right,That's why we're doing it, so we
can help everyone else that has toput up with this terrible bullshit disease.
Us way too many people. Allright, So I'm putting my other glove
on because I gotta tell you whenwe got these, when I got these,
I opened this up. Keep awayfrom me and all I did Jesus.

(01:21:09):
All I did was touched the bag. I looked at the bag,
I read the box, and thenI put it back in and I couldn't
it's sticking to me. All Idid was actually like I scratched my nose
and within a minute it was onfire, and I was like, holy

(01:21:32):
fuck balls, oh my god.So I know it's gonna be hot.
Uh I have I do have milkhere? Because I always total whist bhoos.
So I do have milk? Youopened that mine? All right?

(01:21:55):
Are you ready? Are you ready? I'm ready whenever you are? All
right? Do you open it yet? I have not I'm opening it now.
Okay, I'm gonna open it.Oh god, I'm scared me Hello,
pieces already faune? All right,so you guys are crazy. Oh

(01:22:18):
it is all right a minute.Let me get this all the way open
here there we go. All right. So there's there's my chip. It's
like a bloom for teach it.That's good. It smells good. I
like it. He likes it.All right? You ready on the three?

(01:22:45):
All right, don's gonna call itthree two one? Go? Oh
my god, burning, Oh mygod. I'm watching the video. I

(01:23:06):
don't want to watch your face.Oh my god, oh my god,
how are you doing, Jake,he's still chewing. Oh oh, oh
god, hiccoughs. You're doing betterthan I thought. Oh my god,

(01:23:29):
makeup, take your clothes off,don't put your face. He's destroying in
the room. Look at niccops.Oh is it as bad as you thought?

(01:24:00):
Oh my gosh. And what's worsewhen you swallow? Oh that's what
she said. Oh my god,Oh my god. Yeah, m hm
oh mad. He's feeling it now. I think I think Kenny just choot

(01:24:23):
his a little faster. JD.It burns, yeah, get it off
your on your knees. Oh mygod, your tongue is brake red,

(01:24:50):
Kenny, here's on fire. Doyou have anything to drink there? J
no? Oh h oh cry No. The challenge was for five minutes.

(01:25:12):
Oh no, I guess. Oh, don't die. You don't have to
wait five minutes. H Oh Isthat helping? No? No? Oh

(01:25:41):
my god, oh cry. Newsis for charity. I need the sweat
in the sweat, Oh my god, Oh, Shady gets something to drink.

(01:26:03):
Please don't die. It doesn't hurtin my chest, in my stomach
as much as I thought it would, but back of my throat it burns
a lot. Uh uh oh,it's hard to swallow. Wow, crab

(01:26:24):
some bread. But you've you realizeyou've had way too much to drink,
and the room starts spitting. Youthink, shit, this was a really
bad idea. It's a really badidea. Yeah. Oh it when I
when air touches my mouth, yeah, like redness. It's just getting redder.

(01:26:48):
I tried really hard not to getany of the dust on my lips.
Yeah, Kenny's got you have somein the corner of your mouth.
Back of my throat, m like, it feels like my god is swollen.
I think it went up into mynose. Don't cry, I'm crying.

(01:27:13):
I don't crying. I'm totally crying. Oh, get something to drink.
Yeah, go get something to drink. How long has it been?
Five minutes? Nobody was watching thetime go ahead, you're oh my god,
so this this is ah? Youcan go it as if you could

(01:27:36):
go an hour. You're a heavyweight. Oh fuck you j d h Oh
my god, it's just like pureburn, Like I feel like, oh,

(01:27:57):
I gotta say for every time I'veever went into a restaurant and I've
said, you know, I wantit spicy and not just white person's play.
I want it spicy. Oh thischip delivers. Do you usually like
spice? I do? Okay.The last time I got something like this

(01:28:23):
happened. I got a plate ofwings that was a ghost m hm so,
and I was like, I mightgive me the plan went. I
went like four or five wings,and they were like, no, sir,
We're gonna give you like two wingsand then you can have some like
normal hot wings. I was like, what okay, and yeah, I

(01:28:45):
couldn't finish the wings. I endedup and I drank all the milk at
the table. My son was stillwas still a baby, so he had
milk in a bottle. I drankall his milk. We had to get
we had to get the waitress tobring us extra milk. Oh wow.
But this yeah, this chip ohway worse. In the comment people are

(01:29:08):
saying, it's been five minutes.Yeah, go get something to drink so
you can drink all right, Ohmy god, it's still ah good.
Like yes, that is, withouta doubt, the spiciest thing I've ever
had. I like spice, andI wouldn't do it, so I meant

(01:29:31):
both of you. I hate it. I don't. I don't like I
can't do hot wings. I don'tdo hot wings. Who so, oh
my god. I'm gonna try andtalk, but it hurts. You can
just see her like your lips.The lips are bright red. Oh my

(01:29:54):
god, do my lips. Ican feel tingling, but they don't hurt.
My tongue. My tongue fucking hurtslike it hurts like like I feel
like I turned the oven on andI stuck my tongue on the flame.

(01:30:16):
What are the spices in it?Carol wants to know. M hm,
the Carolina Reaper. Um. Ithink they did pepper up man. Huh
oh powder pepper, wow, Carolinareaper pepper. I think it's starting.

(01:30:47):
Yeah, chicotle pepper powder. Oh, you guys got it all activated?
Charcoal powder. Oh, now it'sstarting to settle my chest. Oh,
wait, down further. I don'thave any of that in the chest or
the stomach. I don't feel anyof it here. It's all so like

(01:31:12):
the side of my tongue are theworst. Yeah. Who oh, I
know it. Word gloves. I'mstill afraid to touch my face. Yeah,
yeah, I don't think I woulddo that again, maybe for charity,
but I don't think you can payme enough to do it. We

(01:31:40):
can both say, we can bothsay we're fucking champions. Champions. Carol
wants me to take a picture.That's a good idea, Harol, So
can you can't remember what he lookslike tomorrow? Oh my god? Now
the question is am I gonna beable to get up and go to work
tomorrow? I don't have your tonguefrom here. I know it's so red.

(01:32:12):
M h. I had have toopen the chocolate milk. We have
to. We might have to goto chocolate milk. Yeah, I got
a chocolate milk too. It's justbecause I like that better. Oh my
goodness, m hm. So,I mean this is torture. And I
hope you guys are getting a thrillout of this. I because I mean,

(01:32:36):
we we did raise. You dida good job. You did raise
five hundred, like forty dollars forcancer research. So that's that was the
point, yep. And uh,I mean it's it was a good challenge.
We raise money for a good cause. So I'm happy to do it.

(01:32:58):
I'm happy to go through this torture. I'm happy that JD. Came
up with just happy to go throughthis torture again. Did I hear that
right? Oh? No, No, he did not say that we might
have to break the stakes a littlebit. I thought I was safe.
I was like, oh, yeah, you know five X, Yeah,

(01:33:19):
then I'll do it. I thoughtI was safe. No, no,
in your mouth, I was like, you're shipping me. There's no way.
Yeah. I would not do thison my own, Carol, want
you to put up okay, no, so if you I can't do this

(01:33:45):
type type in cancer research, thereis color. Oh my goodness. Oh
I want to talk. I wantto cut my tongue out. It is
out, man. So I'm postingthe link in the chat room. So

(01:34:13):
yeah, that's the link. Mhm, going and narrow and yeah,
I can't think right now going thereand to take you where you need to
go. It's burned away the rains. I think his brain is frying.
I got I got the hiccups,and I was like, oh crap,

(01:34:34):
I'm gonna puke all over this.A lot of people have that happened.
I was kind of wondering if itwas if it was going to with me,
but yeah, I guess I gotlocked. I guess I locked out.
I'm glad that you went away.Like I'm watching a car all right,

(01:34:58):
starting the subside now and fee alittle better. Yeah, it's not
as a it's still there. It'sstill burning on the tongue. My lips
are still tingling. Yeah, it'skind of It's kind of like when you
eat a pepper peppermint patty, butit's like a permit patty from satan Ah

(01:35:24):
my shirt by the way, Yeah, yeah, I like it way to
represent you know, like, allright, that was how you doing?
Not too bad. I'm curious tosee how it's gonna be when I like

(01:35:47):
wake up in the middle of thenight. Yeah, your tongue, if
you like, swirl it mouth likebefore before two it. I tried to
chew it and swallow it as fastas I could. I figured, you
know what, the quicker, rightI get it past the the taste buds,

(01:36:15):
the better off i'd be. Sosee, I'd worry about most of
that going down and you know,hit stomach and shit, I'm just waiting
for it to come out later.I could be a problem. That could
be Oh my god, get thecorner of your mouth. I really the

(01:36:40):
other thing. Oh yeah, Oh, that shirt's coming off. I'm gonna
get a new shirt, Robert once. Now, are your teeth gums numb?
Are your teeth? Are your gumsnumb? Gums? No, I
don't feel any numbness. Like Ifeel everything, including the intense burning um.

(01:37:08):
I still feel that, but like, yeah, it's mostly on the
side of my tongue, not somuch the top. And I still feel
the tingling sensational on the lips.But I don't need any numbness. What
about you, Yeah, my lipsare a little tingling. I was feeling
a little lightheaded there for a while. I was like, oh boy,

(01:37:30):
I hope that's That's not a sign. Yeah, ah, that's nice.
Megan says, you guys are awesome. Try to enjoy the rest of your
night. Don't know. You maywant to sleep, And while us worry
Megan, I'll put him on thecouch. I'm not giving up my bed,

(01:37:51):
all right. So it's finally subsidingenough. My tongue does not hurt
any more. It's it's a slightburning sensation, but it's not you're not
feeling it anywhere else. I'm notfeeling it anywhere else. Now I feel
I'm actually feeling a little bit normal. Now, that's good. So it

(01:38:14):
was about ten minutes. Fifteen minutesabout that, yeah, fifteen minutes train
wreck for a good cause. Ohman, Bob says, this could have
been an entire show, and whathappened to Tom? Now there's no comments?

(01:38:36):
Tom? Where are you? Whereare you? Tom? Col On
want Tom? Where'd you go?You're bugging the whole show? Tom?
Oh my goodness. Oh that wasgood, good cause. I hope everyone
was entertained. All right. Ithink I'm good. I think I can't

(01:38:59):
continue to show. I'm glad thathe can continue. I have so many
notes here to own how to closeout the show for you guys, if
need be. I planned for theworst, as in, like, oh
shit, I'm not gonna make it. I'm gonna be in the bathroom just
puke in or dying. I evenhave his boss's phone number just in case
I have to call for life pictures. I love the confidence, man,

(01:39:27):
you gotta be prepared. Yeah,all right, Diane, he survived.
Yeah, j looks pretty good.I hope he survived tomorrow, j d.
I will make sure do you haveany ice cream on hand? It
says, eat some ice cream?That's where that's where I failed idiotically.
Yesterday, I am. When Iwas looking this up, I found that

(01:39:55):
some of the sites that tested allthese you know ways to were the burn.
Um. They said that, uhyou just quick it. Um.
Oh thank you, Carol, appreciateit. Um Kenny's tongue and chest.

(01:40:15):
But some of them most of themsaid like milk was the best. But
there was a few site that saidice cream had not only milk but sugar
in it, and the coldness justwas what you needed. Um. All
right, I feel I feel.I'm feeling much better now, much better.

(01:40:36):
I'm not sweating anymore. The tonguestill red, it is. I
told you, wow, holy crap, what your tongue looked like. Not

(01:40:56):
that I mean, the lighting isnot too bad, but I don't think
my tongues that read. Yeah,I don't know. Kenny's looks really red.
It could be the light maybe maybemaybe. Oh my god, all
right, I'm good cha yeah,I can take my chair back. All
right, guys, everybody, thankyou for for taking over duties. I'm

(01:41:19):
always here, I'm just not incamera site. Oh my goodness, crumbs
away, you're blow them all right? All right, people, that's awesome.

(01:41:42):
All right, we're down to theend here. If anyone has any
questions, Um, hey we gotwe got a member of the Church of
Stating here. If you have anyquestions for him while he can still talk,
um, feel free to put itin the chat room. We have
a couple of minutes left for money. Oh we got some more money.
What do we got by gonna lookat that? Robert donated twenty bucks than

(01:42:05):
damn. We're doing awesome. Thankyou, guys, appreciate it, very
very awesome. About bye, Donnabye. Got everybody's saying bye. That's
good. So when we're five fortyfive sixty five eighty dollars so far,
which is awesome, great, Imean that's it goes to a good cause.

(01:42:29):
I mean some of the guys,some of the people in the chat
room come in and already that theyeither they went through it, um they're
significant other or we all know whensomebody that that has gone through it and
it just sucks, it really does. Um, and it's all hit us
close to home. And this littlebit I mean yeah, I mean yeah,

(01:42:50):
very close to home. Um,this little bit, hey, it
helps, every little bit helps becauseyou take a whole bunch a little bit.
So you put them together, yougot a big bit, you know,
and it starts chipping away at thisship and hopefully, um, one
day, one day, we willbe rid of this, uh, this

(01:43:11):
horrible disease. Um So who Jaywait, what's this? J D?
If you can talk, I'd liketo hear about the church. Um,
so you want to take like acouple of minutes and just talk about can
you talk? I can try,all right, just give a really brief

(01:43:34):
brief description and then we'll close out, because we got about we got about
ten minutes left. Um. Sochurch and Satan was founded by Anton LaVey.
And I'm sorry, my wife,don't black out. I think I

(01:43:58):
think they were taking bets on whetheror not I to talk tonight. He's
having a hard time talking. Ifyou can't do it, it's all right,
I'll cover it again later. Idon't think he's gonna make it.
Sorry, And he bet and hebet on if JD is gonna make it

(01:44:18):
to the end of the show,Carol says, you don't have to.
We can talk about it another week. It will do another week. Thanks,
do it another week, um Carol, if you're interested. Um,
if you go back in the UHin past shows, JD was on and
he actually went into great detail aboutthe Church of Satan and and oh there

(01:44:41):
you go. Yeah, and there'sa link. Cat put up a link
in the chat room, um tothe Church of Satan and the facts.
Um, they're frequently asked questions.So yeah, yes, thank you much
for including that. So many peoplethey'll actually read those something you're dying,

(01:45:06):
all right, y, Yeah,I'm doing good. Get more, go
get Yeah, why don't you go, dude, why don't you go.
We're at the end, go getsome relief. Um. We did a
great job. You did an awesomejob. This was a great idea.
I appreciate you coming up with thisand following through. You did an awesome

(01:45:29):
job, dude. Awesome than takethe with me, no problem, dude.
I mean, hey, I'm gladwe did it together. That was
it was. It was more fun. Yeah, it was more fun because
I wasn't gonna yet and I cansay I didn't and I can probably put
this little banner up. Yeah,I'm about I saw that in the box.

(01:45:56):
I was like, you know what, this is gonna make it all
worth it? Yeah, that's right, all right, man, go get
some relief. I will talk toyou later, all right. By wow,
wow, he's he's doing good.Um. Yeah, his wife is
there, so he's not alone,but he's good. He's trying to he

(01:46:18):
was trying to make it without takingmuch to drink, going alone as long
as possible, because we did havethe idea that you know, for every
five minutes, every Yeah, hewould go at least five minutes, but
there was enough torture between us.He did good. Yeah he went to
five minutes. He did really reallygood. Oh my goodness. All right,

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I don't even know how to closeout the show. What do I
do? I forget how the formatof the show works. I got it,
I got it, you got it. Yeah, oh no, no,
we're not going to close out theshow like, oh that's that's shutting
down the show. Um. Butat the end we have to summon up.
Well we sum it up when wepretty much go into I don't have

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anything planned. Well, actually Ido hold on things coming up. I
don't have much coming up. Whereare my glasses? There? We go?
All right, So the only stuffthat I have is that a November
eleventh, I will be a gueston a podcast called The Paranormal Brew seven

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o'clock next week, so I'll beon there. November nineteenth. I'll be
a guest on another podcast, Ohmy god, it's coming back, called
a podcast called The Haunted Librarian.And then actually, I just got a
message today that I will be onanother podcast called let Me Sing It is

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the Afterlife? What is it called? What is it called? Let Me
See? Hold On, hold On, hold On, don't go anywhere.
Okay, it's called Afterlife with anLee Lucas at seven pm. That's a
Central time, so I think that'sSunday this Sunday night, so I think

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it's actually eight pm Eastern time.But I'll post a link up. But
I'm gonna be the best guest onthat podcast. I'm I'm not sure what
this podcast is. I think it'sa paranormal podcast. I think it's fairly
new, but I just got themessage tonight about it, so I'll be
doing that. I don't have anyother events coming up outside events, but

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if you're hosting any which I doubtyou are because COVID just sucks and getting
worse. So, but if youhave events in the future, if you're
doing lectures, any kind of onlinestuff that you would like to have a
skeptical opinion and you like you knowwhat I do, reach out to me
because I love taking part in thatkind of stuff. It's fun, I

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think, great discussions and we reallyget into it. Please listen. Saturday
nights, I do another podcast withDave Shoot Moocher and Tim Vickers. It's
called Three Torture Souls. We goon at eight pm Eastern Time and we
have a good discussion about one topicand tomorrow's topic is about it has to

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do with EVPs, and it's gonnabe fun. I think it's really gonna
be fun because some of the backgroundwork that we did is going to make
this interesting and give you a differentperspective on it. So that's got that's
that's going on. And I don'tthink K and D Adventures. Yeah,
yes, we have a YouTube channelcalled K and D Adventures Kenny and Donna

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and we go out and we weadventure and we take video of it and
we put it up there. Somake sure you go on YouTube and subscribe
because we're trying to get to onehundred subscribers still. I think last check
it we were like eighty six orsomething like that. So we're getting there
and then uh, let's see what'sthis. Wait, how about showing mystery

(01:50:10):
lights like men men that came up? So that might actually that might be
a show later. Um, we'llsee. UM. And I think that's
it. I don't think I haveanything else scheduled. You saw you saw
the commercial. Feel free if you'reinto science t shirts or if you're looking
for something like that, UM,feel free to browse the shop um Scientific

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Skepticism on t spring. And thenif you do decide to purchase any shirts,
the money goes back to the research. So it's not like I pocket
it and go out and buy youknow, Superman toys or something like that
Star Wars toys. It actually goesback into the research. UM. So
it lets me buy ghosts, ohmy god. It lets me buy ghost

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unting equipment, It lets me attendparanormal events, conferences and stuff like that.
UM. It lets me acquire booksum that I might need for further
research. So everything goes back intothe work. UM, and it really
helps me out. It also helpsme keep this going, so I totally
appreciate it. And with that,I think we're going to really close it

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out again. Thank you. Everyonefor showing up. Thank you for hanging
out with us and donating to thecancer research. Oh my god, Yeah
it's a talking you're bringing in theair into your mouth and it's starting all
over again, fucking air. Butyeah, thank you for spending your Friday

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night with me. I appreciate it. A lot of you guys come out
every Friday night, and I doappreciate it. Um, it's nice to
see the same faces. It's nicesee new faces. But it's great to
see people come back because maybe I'mdoing something right. So uh anyway,
So with that, I'm going togo to my video and I'm going to

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cut the show out and say neverstop learning, and I'll see you next week.