8/03/25 - THE WORLD OF : BIGFOOT, UFO’S & CRYPTIDS w/ Julia Simms

Tonight We Talk Bigfoot, UFO’s & Cryptids

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, welcome to space Out Radio. That that was radio
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have a fantastic show tonight. We have cryptive researcher Julius
Sims joining us here. We're gonna be talking about big Foot, UFOs, cryptis,
all sorts of things for hours one and two. Also,
we have Steve Stock and Tells and to misperson Mysteries
for our three and UFO and weird news guys. Let's go.

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so much more. Once again, we're gonna have a fantastic
show tonight. We are joined by Julius Simms, who is
a crypto researcher and enthusiast out of Sarah Show Sarah Sota, Florida.
She has been exploring areas of cryptozoology and paranormal for

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fifteen years. Keeps an open mind, whether it be in
the field or exploring new ideas and theories. After an incident,
she believes that they have been of an extraterrestrial origin.
At the age of thirteen, which hopefully we'll hear about here,
she began studying ufology and follow that down the path
of everything from bigfoot to conspiracy theories. And that's kind

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of where we'll leave it as we go ahead and
welcome our guests here tonight, none other than Julia Simms.
How are you, Julia?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Rov?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
What's up? Everybody?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
We really appreciate you joining us here tonight and talking
some weird weoy ufo stuff here a lot of us
here have experienced at least one element of that, either Bigfoot,
cryptids or UFOs. Right now, I'm only in the UFO category.
I haven't had the pleasure of meeting the Big Guy

(02:32):
or anyone that you may determined to be encrypted, at
least as of yet. So maybe we'll get some guidance
from you on that here tonight. But I would like
to kind of start out with how you figured out
that this world wasn't what it was? How did you
figure out there was more to reality than what we're
told to believe.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I would say that started when I was thirteen, when
I had that incident happen that I believe was a
potential abduction. Maybe that kind of got me started down
this whole path and kind of really changed the way
that I thought.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
If you wouldn't mind kind of going into detail on
that particular incident, how were you, how were you feeling,
what was the mood, like the weather that day? Kind
of kind of take.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Us there, all right, let's get weird with it. So
when I was thirteen, I was staying over at a
friend's house. It was me and her and one of
her other friends. And I'm still these are still my
closest friends to this day. Stand at her house and
we were all sleeping on this futon that was in

(03:42):
a room and she had a sliding glass door that
led out to her backyard. And I woke up the
next morning and I was curled up on the ball
and it curled up on the floor in a tight ball,
and I didn't have any clothes on, so that was
kind of weird. What everyone woke up. They're going, what
are you doing on the floor, And I said, I

(04:03):
don't know, So I get up or we're looking for
my stuff or whatever, and they go, what's that on
your back? And so I turn around to look in
the mirror and at the very base of my spine
there was something about this big I would say. It
was a dark brown sort of a color. It wasn't raised,
it didn't hurt, you know, there was no irritation or

(04:25):
anything like that to it. But it was one big
circle in the middle that had a diagonal slash that
went through it, and it was surrounded by a bunch
of other symbols. I guess I didn't recognize them, you know,
I still couldn't to this day. But we thought maybe
I had slept on something thought it was kind of
weird that I woke up the way that I did.

(04:46):
Day goes on. We go out to a movie with
some of our friends. Were hanging out in front of
the theater and I start to get real sick. And
I got sick to the point where I was like, hey, guys,
I think, you know, we need to go home, like,
you know, really not feeling well. So we go back
to Caitlyn's house. Happened at Veronica's house. We went back
to Caitln's and I start getting sick to the point

(05:08):
that I was getting scared. And at this point I
should have called my mother. I didn't because my mom,
she still pretty much is to this day, but especially
when I was younger, she was very devout, very strict
Pentecostal Christian. My best friend she was a Wickan, and
she didn't exactly love that my best friend was into witchcraft.

(05:31):
So we're like, oh, no, you know, if we tell
your mom, you're never gonna be able to come over
here again. She's going to blame you for this happening.
So she called the coven leader, you know, the woman
the leader of her covenant. She said that to her
it sounded like it might have been magic related or something.
She told her to do some sort of mirror magic.

(05:54):
So I'm starting to get sick. They grab a bucket
and I throw up, and you know it. Since I've
been telling this story more in the past couple of years,
I've been told that there was an episode of The
X Files that was oddly similar to this. I still
haven't seen it. I probably should, but I threw up

(06:15):
these perfectly round black balls about the sides of milk duds,
just this nasty, sludgy stuff. I pass out and I
wake up about an hour later, and they said, that
symbol on your back after you threw up disappeared almost immediately,
So you know, I'm freaked out by it, you know,

(06:37):
probably traumatized for about a year or so after that happened,
and I started looking into it and realize that that
symbol looked an awful lot like a crop circle. I mean,
if you googled a picture of a crop circle right now,
that's about what it looked like. So years go by,
I grow up, I'm in my mid twenties, and I'm like,
all right, you know what, I bet you if that

(06:58):
was an alien abduction I bet you if I went
to a hypnotist, they might be able to pull something up.
They might be able to tell me something of my
subconscious that I had forgotten or you know, was blocked out,
as you know that can happen. Sometimes people only get
to remember what they want you to remember. So there

(07:18):
was a woman who still lives here in this town.
She's a past life regressionist, and she would put people
under to try to help them remember past lives things
like that. I didn't want to go to a traditional
hypnotist at this point for fear of being thrown into
a looney bin. So I figured this woman was the
best route to go. So she puts me under. I

(07:41):
didn't go under for the whole time. I guess I'm
kind of hard to put under hypnosis for whatever reason.
But there was a point. I don't have the tape anymore,
but you know, her sessions were all recorded where I
did go under, and she's and I had said that
at one point in the night, I got up off
of that futon and went out into the backyard and

(08:02):
I saw a big bright light and I walked towards it.
And that's the only thing she could really get out
of me. So if it was an alien abduction, I
think maybe there was something that had lured me out
into the yard to get me to walk out of
the house. So that's kind of how that started. And
I guess it's all been out there since then.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, when you talk about that, very interesting. The the
icon or the image whatever that was on your back.
Would love to know and you kind of describing it
or comparing it to a crop circle is very interesting too.
I've never heard anyone do that, even though there are
people that come up with these marks that have different meanings.

(08:46):
But if you you know, do you know anything about that?
I think it's called the Fibonacci sequence, which is what
a lot of these crop circles represent, and it would
be interesting to know if that was if that was
represented there as well, because obviously that would tie it
in for surely to crop circles or whatever this message
is behind crop circles, What do you think the purpose

(09:09):
is for?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Do you think? I'll actually leave my comment for later,
but what do you think the actual meaning is behind
them leaving images like that?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
You know? I've I've heard, especially just recently, a couple
of people have said to me, you know, maybe that
was a leftover mark from maybe a medical device or something.
I've also it's been brought up to me that, you know,
it's almost like getting an ear tag on cattle or something,

(09:45):
you know, just to keep track of where you are,
or if it was something medical. You know, that could
have been anything. And the reason that I think that
it might have been something like maybe part of some
sort procedure is there was one time I went into
an internet forum and there was a woman who lived

(10:06):
one town over for me, who was quite a bit
older than I was, but it happened around the same
time as it happened to me, and she was an adult.
She actually went to a doctor when this happened, and
I guess the doctor had told her that to him,
it looked similar to a radiation burn. I don't remember

(10:28):
if she said anything about it hurting or not, because
mine didn't. But I tried to contact that woman and
it said that her email address was no longer It
no longer existed, so I never got to talk to
her about it.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
It'd be interesting to know, like maybe it's still there,
it's just you can't see it, Like maybe they can
wave some sort of machine over it and then it reappears,
and kind of because the ear tac thing makes a
lot of sense when you know, a lot of people
try to say, don't look at it in the human perspective,
like we would go out they're in tag animals, they

(11:01):
wouldn't necessarily do that to us, and I just don't
buy I don't go with that that aspect. I think
they would definitely do a lot of the things that
we do, and it would make sense if you're trying
to keep track of one individual out of eight billion,
you're gonna need to do something like tag it in
order to make sure you're dealing with the same individual exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And believe believe you me, buddy, I check occasionally, you know,
every once in a while across my mind, I'll be like,
all right, let me just take a little real quick
see if there's anything going on. But it's never reappeared.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So that's how do you have? You what happened to
the And I know a lot of people will want
to know this, what happened to the material that you
threw up?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
You know, I was actually I was just asked that
on the last podcast that I did. Is you know,
like I said, I was going in and out of
consciousness at this point, and I'm assuming that my friends
flushed it down the toilet or threw it outside or something.
You got to keep in mind, and we were thirteen
year old children at this time, and this was pretty

(12:06):
traumatizing situation, So I'm assuming it got I should probably
ask her. I wonder if she even remembers anymore. But
that was a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, see, even just the recognects, the recollection and the
visual that you give when you retail that. I mean
a lot of us can imagine what that might look like.
So that's even good enough as long as you tell
that part of the story. I think if someone did
have images of something along those lines, it would line
up with your story. It would be validation for them.

(12:36):
So it's still important either way it goes. But you know,
what did you get into? So thirteen years old, you
have this experience. Did anything happen after that or was
it just dead silent for years or kind of what
happened after that?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, if I have had any other contact, I was
either not aware of it. Maybe it happened and I
just wasn't paying attention. I don't know, but I mean,
but definitely nothing on that level has happened since. But
you know, I've heard all kinds of different theories from

(13:14):
people and people that have had similar stories. I do
know that in my town years ago that there was
an alien based cult that disbanded. And when I was
looking for literature and stuff on this, I was told,
you know, go to South Aarasota, go to all those
used bookstores, because when that cult dissipated, they gave all

(13:36):
of those books to all those bookstores. And I went
there and I found some really interesting things. But I
don't know if anybody out there knows anything about this
or has had anything similar happen. I would really appreciate,
you know, hearing about it.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I would love to hear about those books that you found,
because I'm actually I'm setting myself up to do a
show on those. The alien cults period is we know
there was the famous one years ago with the Nikes,
so we know about them, and we know there's also
other various ones. And the thing that I get concerned
with is with this, what I feel like is like

(14:12):
an imminent extraterrestrial contact moment coming at some point. I
feel like there's going to be a portion of the
community that that will essentially be drawn in and will
be gosh, what am I looking for? They'll they'll be
the first ones to sign up for this new UFO

(14:33):
col essentially, And so it kind of identifying why that
may be and kind of going that that's really why
I want to do that. So it'd be interesting to
hear about what you what you have gained through getting
some of those books. But first question that I had
prior to that was, well, a statement I was gonna
make was, especially with the UFO abduction experience, what I

(14:55):
keep feeling because I, you know, I wonder why I
haven't been abducted for one and then I think, okay,
well maybe I have been abducted, and that is yeah,
just don't recall it, right, Yeah, And here's what I
think this is. In a lot of going back to
the human theory, I look at it like you're not
supposed to remember it. That's how I feel like when

(15:18):
we go out and we tag these animals and we
do whatever we do, we they aren't supposed to remember
the experience. We're supposed to be long gone by the
time they wake up, and they just wonder what happened.
I think that's what's supposed to happen with us. And
I think the only reason why we know about abduction
experiences is because there are a portion of people who

(15:41):
happen to become aware during the moment or happen to
wake up during the event. What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You know, you hear for a lot of people that
do remember, you know, an abduction, or they'll remember it,
or they'll be brought up onto a ship later on,
you know, to see the product of whatever it was,
and they stay in communication with them. I think that
either they don't want you to remember it because it

(16:12):
was traumatizing, and they care about our feelings, which I'm
gonna go ahead and doubt. I think that the Grays
are kind of robotic, emotionless creatures. And one time I
heard somebody say, like, you know, you don't think twice
when you step on an ant, you know, because it's
an ant. Yeah, it doesn't know what's going on. I

(16:34):
wonder if maybe the Grays kind of look at us
like that, like they don't think that we're even smart
enough to realize what's happening. But then again, you hear
stories of abductions of people that go up and they
you know, take them to other planets and show them
things and warn them about things that are going to
happen in the future, and they have this beautiful spiritual experience,

(16:57):
but then you hear ones that are just horrific, and
so it's like, do you really want to remember these
experiences or be aware that they're happening if they're unpleasant?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, yeah, and especially if the whole goal is to
you know, just imagine if no one ever remembered an
abduction situation, then it would be as if it never existed,
as if it never took place. And is that really
how it's supposed to be on the grand scheme? Is
it supposed to be Did they intervene and they step

(17:29):
in and we just are supposed to never remember this
and just go on about our daily, normal lives. It
would seem if we were in some if we were
being examined by them in some way, that that's how
they would prefer it, because I guess if we do
become aware of what it is they're doing, then I
would assume that would throw some sort of wrench into
the experimentation. It just I would, you know, common sense

(17:52):
says that, but it would be interesting to hear from
you since you have what people could consider to be
an abduction experience. What do you think the purpose is.
Why do you think they do it? If just based
on your own experience, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I kind of think that maybe I'm sure you're you're
well versed in the hybrisation agenda, if it was something
like that, I was right around the age where I
would have just started to begin to produce eggs, just
right around the time that I would have started to

(18:32):
be fertile. And you hear that a lot, especially with
female abductions. It's right around that age and right around
that time is when it happens. So I kind of
I kind of lean towards that. I guess a little
more that it had something to do with fertility.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean that makes total sense. That makes total sense.
And then with you, with you saying that I would,
I would probably now go back and I'll probably start
paying attention to that more often, more abjectives I speak
to see if that's the thing, because that would make
sense that they would be plucking individuals when they're fertile

(19:10):
or their most fertile state. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay,
So so as far as hybridization goes, because I've been
on the fence with that, I mean, I can understand
some situations why they would want to do that, but
then it just another part of me just says, Okay,
it doesn't make sense at all, Like, why would you
think they'd want to hybridize with human beings? What from

(19:34):
your state? Your state?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I mean again, you know that there's there's theories and
thoughts on that all across the board. I think it
has to do with introducing I get spirituality back into them.
You know, if there are these robotic, unfeeling creatures, I

(20:00):
think maybe they bred it out of themselves at one
point perhaps, and they're trying to get that part of
themselves back. You know, humans, we're we feel a lot.
You know, there's a whole other side. We have these souls,
these things inside of us, and I think they want
that back, or maybe they never had it to begin with,

(20:24):
or they can't survive in this atmosphere and they want
to interbreathe with us so that they can live on
this planet, which is a terrifying thought. I suppose.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Well, yeah, because you think about this, so they have
and even you said earlier, there's a part of you
that feels like they may not have the best intent
as far as them coming here and interacting with us.
So when I look at that, and because I do
so much thinking on this, I'm just like, it eats

(20:55):
my mind up. But I'm like, Okay, well, why would
they want a hybrid desire hybrid eyes and interact with
us in that way when there's no proof that they
even want to come here to help us at all? Like,
what is their end goal? It doesn't I haven't found
an answer that makes sense when it comes to marrying
the idea of why they'd want to hybridize with the

(21:16):
fact that you know, there's definitely been some that have
come here and shown like malevolent intent. How do those
two things marry each other?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well, especially the Grays. I very rarely have I come
across stories with people where they had positive, fluffy good
feelings about that race of extraterrestrials them in particular, you know.
But then when you people tell stories about the you know,

(21:46):
the Pleaateans, the Nordic ones, it's usually this very positive
sounding story. But anything Reptilian, anything gray is typically a
typically not a very nice story. So if it is
the Grays trying to hybridize with us, it's not good.

(22:07):
I don't think they I don't think they care too
much for us, or they think we're just not smart
enough to you know, they could wipe us out. They
don't care. They just want our planet, our resources, or
the ability to be spiritual.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Only thing I could think of as we sit here
and now this conversation, and I guess this could work
for both sides of the argument. Whether benevolent or malevolent
is okay, maybe they can't. But if they're robots, then
it doesn't make sense. But if they are some sort
of biological being that for some reason can't exist on

(22:43):
this planet without protections and things of that nature, it
would make sense for them to want to interbreed with
us so they would have the ability to exist on
Earth and to help us, right, to help us and
do this helpful thing that they want to come and do.
But then it also works exactly the opposite direction, where

(23:03):
it's like, if they want to come here and take
over the planet, they couldn't exist on the ground unless
they interbreeded with us too. So yeah, thinking of both
sides of that that's the only thing I've come to
that makes sense. If you have anything you know as
we sit here and talk that makes sense, please let
me know.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, I don't know. You know, I'm still I learned
something about this. Anytime I get on the internet, anytime
I pick up a book, anytime I talk to somebody else,
I learned something new. So if this is a constantly
evolving work in progress for me, I suppose, you know,
just just when I think I've got it figured out,
I'll hear something else and oh god, you know what,

(23:44):
maybe it's that never mind.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
You know, I'm going back and forth like that as well.
We're stepping into our first break with our guest tonight,
Julia Simm's cryptive researcher. We're talking UFOs, We're talking Bigfoot,
We're talking cryptis. To make sure you guys don't go
anywhere tonight. Fantastic conversation coming up next, guys. We'll be
right back right after the break. All right, and we

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Speaker 3 (28:22):
Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Cosmic Joe Chronicles, Cosmic Joe Chronicles. Am I am I
not allowed to remember what happened to me? Yeah? I
don't know. It's weird, right, what do you What do
you say?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I say probably not. I think that they are in
complete control and they will do whatever they want. So
if they don't want you to remember, you're not going to.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
It's what it seems like. That's what it seems like. Uh,
Phoenix Coat Hanger, thanks for coming on in. Appreciate you
and I think we might be Oh. Jeff Garvey, Hey,
Jeff Garvey, appreciate you showing on up. I think we
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back into the conversation, so going down a little more

(30:49):
of the extraterrestrial path, what would you okay, so seeing
that these craft are here all the time, what is
it that's sticking out in the news or what do
you think? I don't know if you're even covering or
watching what's going on in Congress. What do you think

(31:09):
we need to do? What would be some of the
next steps do you think we should take in order
to kind of bring this reality to the forefront.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Well, I mean, I think after the tic Tac incident,
we're getting closer to knowing more. I think that there
are certain sects of our government that know exactly what's
going on, but they're not going to tell us quite yet.
I have a theory on that as to why that
could possibly be that. I'm sure there are other people
out there that would agree with me on that, but

(31:41):
I think we're getting closer. I think it's a timing thing.
I don't think there's anything we could necessarily do to
demand any type of disclosure but I think it's coming
in small pieces.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
What do you think it looks like once it comes?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
If you had to guess, you want me to be honest,
you are to be honest. I think even though and
I am not by any means, I'm not saying that
I don't believe in God. I'm not saying that. What
I'm saying is that I think it will. If they

(32:20):
came out and told us everything, it would destroy certain
traditional views of Christianity. And if that got lost, there's
a large amount of control that would get lost to
and they can't do that right now. You know, that's
it's one of the major things controlling people. I think

(32:41):
there's a lot of distorted parts of Christianity that that
aren't true that got put in specifically for control reasons,
and I think until they have another way to control everybody,
they're going to keep using that. So I kind of think,
you know, it's like, oh, you know, this is the
way the world is, and this is what's out in space,

(33:01):
and it's just us and that's it. And then all
of a sudden, if that changes, there goes that theory
and there goes that control method. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, so do you see, like in a apocylyptic wasteland.
You know, if that were to happen tomorrow, So say
we woke up tomorrow and it's on the table that
this is what it is.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know, Yeah, No, I don't think it would be
the government attacking us. I think that if extraterrestriels wanted
to come down here, if they wanted us going right now,
they would just do it. Like you know, I don't
think we have any type of weapons or defense because
they are you know, excuse the pud, but they are
light years ahead of us on that. And if they
just wanted to wipe us out, they would have done

(33:45):
it a long time ago. So there's some other reason
that hasn't happened. I think that people would be so afraid.
You know, a lot of people aren't going to work anymore.
After that, you know, people would stop going to work.
They're going to stop doing the day to day things
that make countries run, that generate money and keep the control.
So I think in a certain way it would be

(34:07):
an apocalyptic situation, but not in like a road warrior
kind of way.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I kind of see it both ways. I see it
exactly what you're saying, but for some reason, I keep
seeing like mad Max sort of a future for us.
But and that's only because we do definitely, So I
think you're absolutely right. I think disclosure hits, whether it's
the government telling us or whether it's UFOs just showing
up in mass that it is definitely going to challenge

(34:36):
the religions. And just like you said, there are some
things built in the religion that keep human beings on
the up and up and keep us doing you know,
looking out for good versus evil. And if those things
go away, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Go ahead, keeping people from committing you know, hallacious crimes
on a daily basis. You know, it's like, oh, remember
Bible says don't do.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That, you know, Yes. And then with that, and you
couple in the fact that because when we talk about power,
religion has power over a group of individuals, so does
the government. Unfortunately, there's and it's weird, there are people
to follow the government like it's a religion and they
only answer to what the government says. It has to

(35:24):
come through them in order for it to be official.
What's your opinion on that?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, I mean you and I and I think a
lot of people out there listening right now would agree
that that's very much true. But then you know, you
got people like us that question that daily. You know,
I think it's not all bad, you know. I think
a lot of that stuff is in place for safety,
but a lot of it is control also. But you know,

(35:52):
when you leave your house and you're looking around, look
around at the people at the general public, do you
want those people doing different they want? Because I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
It's a dilemma, and it is the the dichotomy is
it's what we and yeah, we don't want that, because
you do. You look around, You're like, man, if we
didn't have the rule of law, that would be a
very questionable person right there. And but here's the thing.
It's like, and this is why some people are like,
we need to slow this process down as much as possible,

(36:25):
But like for me, I feel like we need to
speed it up because the thing is is that I
think at some point we're gonna have to go through it.
We're gonna have to come to the realization. First of all,
we're gonna have to deal with it on whatever level
within humanity and deal with the ones who can't take
it donto logical shock. We're gonna have to get through

(36:45):
that process to get to the other side.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Let's get this movid man list.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Just get it over with. Because here's the thing, our grandchildren.
This is why I do this, right. I do this
because we have kids, We have grandkids, they will have
children and so on so forth down the line. And
it's like, I think we're well equipped right now to
kind of at least be the founders of that movement.

(37:11):
Not necessarily founders, but we have more of a mindset
of how we could probably get through this and what
it might look like instead of just laying this on
the doorstep of our great grandchildren, like one hundred and
fifty years down the line. Now they have to deal
with it. It hasn't really been in the news like this.
They aren't really talking about it in that way, so
they don't really know how to approach it as well

(37:33):
as maybe we're equipped to do it right now. So
I'm just like, let's just do it, man. Let's go
through this ten year period of I don't know what,
you know, maybe mad Max, maybe maybe not Mad Max.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Let's just get cooler exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
But the thing is this, the governments, these power structures,
they have to go away like they we have to
restructure that and it and technically it doesn't have anything
directly to do with a UFO disclosure, but it's still
the same goal has to take place where something has
to happen that allows us to restructure the power distribution

(38:11):
around the world.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I know it, and I agree with you on that.
I just I think that the general morality of people
has to change before that could happen, because I don't
know if everyone has the ability to police themselves. I
meet people on a daily basis. I don't know how
they're getting through. You know, I'm a bartender and I

(38:35):
meet people every day that I'm like, oh, how are you?
How are you getting through life?

Speaker 4 (38:43):
To help?

Speaker 2 (38:44):
You know, and not everyone is inherently good either, you know,
I'm just being honest. So if there wasn't somebody to
kind of keep an eye on people like that, we'd
all be in a lot more trouble.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
It's true, but I think it we've let ourselves because
the whoever before us built this society that we were
worn into. It's like, it makes it that problem you
speak about, it makes it worse and worse because there
was a time before this societal bubble was built that
we still had to deal with people like that, and
there was a system for dealing with people like that,

(39:21):
regardless of what it is. It may not be the
best way, you know, but societies have dealt with individuals
that were not probably the best part of society in
different ways in our history. You can go back and look.
But the thing is is that, you know, it's like
a greater of two evils, right, It's like, do we

(39:41):
allow the governments to continue to kind of destroyan the
human species. Let me put to you like this, this
is one thing that I thought about, and I said
this to some of my viewers on my channel, and
they were just blown away because you don't think about
this in this current society that we live in. We're
in the United States of America currently, where it's supposed
to be the best place to be, the freest place ever,

(40:05):
the best chance for you to succeed and live out
your dreams and just be free as an individual. And
you know, I think you when you really look at it,
if you were to do the math on and I
just did some basic math on this, just say, fifty
thousand dollars a year was gonna be a good salary.

(40:27):
It's okay, right, it's all right. If you, at eighteen
years old, sat down and someone came to you and said, okay, here,
I'm gonna give you a check. I'm gonna cut you
one check, and you just have to work for me
for every single day of your life, and I'll give
you weekends off. But you have to commit to me
until you're sixty five years old and then we'll talk

(40:49):
about something. Then do you know that only equates to
be like two million dollars a little over two million dollars.
So somebody came to you at eighteen years old and
wrote you a check for two million dollars, said, take
this check, but in exchange, you work for me for
the rest of your life. Is that anything that any
realistic or rational person would accept on the front value? Probably?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
No, no, no, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
But what do you say it like that? You know, right,
but it's exactly what we're doing. It's exactly what they've
they've put us. In the end, that's not even that's
only if you work every day for forty five years.
Some people aren't blessed enough to have a job all
that time, so it's really a lot less. Then when
you throw taxes and things like that in there. It's

(41:33):
really a lot less than that. So right now we
are turning over, we are signing over our lives in
this in the best society ever here in America for
like a million dollars a million and a half, two
million dollars at eighteen years old, to just sign the
rest and then when you get sixty five to kind
of just spitch out and don't and don't really, So

(41:54):
do you see how this system messages? And that's why
I won't go fully down that path. But I wanted
to punt that out there, because when you look at
it like that, it sounds ridiculous that that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, I agree with you, it's uh, but you know,
it's it is the current state that we're in, you know.
I obviously no one has come up with a better
solution so far, you know, but if there's any extraterrestrials
out there that have a better idea and would like
to come and help, we'd appreciate it, because we're not

(42:26):
doing a real good job down here.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
And see, that's the reason why I want catastrophic disclosure,
because I think that at least gives us a chance
as human beings to kind of rethink this process. And
it's like one of three things I could think of
that would allow us as a society of human beings
to say, Okay, this is how we shift the direction,
or let's come together and figure out what we want

(42:50):
going forward. And it's only alien UFO disclosure. It's going
to be like a nuclear warfare, or it's going to
be like an asteroid impact, something that really shakes things up.
That would give us this moment in time where we
as human beings could say, yeah, we don't like it
going this way anymore, we kind of want to go

(43:11):
this way. And that's why it's so important that because
of those three things I just said, Obviously nuclear fallout
would not be a good thing. Obviously asteroid impact would
be even worse. So the one thing that we could
deal with that really is just having a conversation is
UFO and alien disclosure. It's the easiest thing and it's

(43:32):
the thing in our face right now that would allow
us to kind of restructure the future of humanity. And
it's a very cool thing to be living in a
moment where we might have that ability to affect that change.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, you know, and we're definitely getting closer to that now,
whether or not, whether or not the government and these
extraterrescials are working together, so it's like a timed sort
of a disclosure thing, you know. I mean I've heard
that too. You know, it's like they've known about this
for years. You know, aliens of the government are working together,

(44:05):
and you know they're they're waiting for a specific time.
But I think if they were working independently of each
other and they just showed up out of nowhere and
they're like, all right, em emfors here we are, you know,
that might actually be a better way to go, because
that would take away a lot of government control because
it's like, what are you gonna do? Like we were prepared.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Think about it. Let me ask you this, So what
do you think about previous human civilizations that came to
some technological advance point and then just disappeared? Like what
do you think about those? If you've ever thought about it.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I've definitely thought about that. I think that I think
that aliens have been very very closely monitoring our evolution,
if not sped it along, Like if you look at
the Sumerians up until the Sumerians that civilization came about.
We were living in caves basically, and then it was

(45:04):
like bam, like overnight, we had, you know, a system
of money and government and writing, and you know, how
to take care of livestock and how to grow farms.
And I mean that just kind of came out of nowhere.
You know that that was a huge jump in evolution.
And look look at what we've done with electronics even

(45:26):
in the past fifty years. Think about where we were
fifty years ago with technology and where we are right now.
That jump is insane because before it was like little
tiny baby steps, you know, it's crawling along. But man,
it's like all of a sudden, out of nowhere, we
got smartphones, we got laptops, we got Bluetooth, and all

(45:47):
this stuff just happened in the scheme of things overnight.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. And you see examples
of that when you look at different civilizations're talking about
like the Romans and Egyptians and all different But what
do you think, what do you think happened to those
groups because it seemed like they were on the trajectory
of advancement, just like we currently are in this iteration
of humanity. What do you think they ran into the

(46:15):
kind of crumbled there what they were doing. And I'll
also add to that that we have in our recent
current time dealing with UFOs and extra trest reals. We
have the aerial school kids who have their ufon counter
and then other people who have also said that these
aliens have told them that technology is bad. And That's

(46:39):
one thing I've always hung my hat on because I'm like, Okay,
technology is bad. What could that mean? And when I
think about that, I'm like, Okay, is it because technology
takes us more away from the natural path of development
as far because when you think about what's in tune
with earth, everything else that lives here is in tune
with earth. They're not technologically answer just in sync with

(47:01):
whatever the natural state is. And is it the further
we get away from that as human beings, is that
actually a bad thing?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Well, we're not spiritually advancing as quick as the technology.
You know, anything, anything can be dangerous if you put
it in the hands of a wrong person, if you
give you know, if you hand a pair of scissors
to a thirty year old, Okay, these are scissors. I
am smart enough to know how to use this without

(47:32):
hurting myself or others. You hand a pair of scissors
to a one year old, that could be very, very dangerous.
I feel like right now where we are as a
species spiritually, we are toddlers with scissors as far as
technology goes. So it's like we need to I think
that as as a species, we need to evolve that more.

(47:56):
We need to understand more about ourselves, build our morality
before or we keep going and creating you know, worse
and worse weapons to blow each.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Other up with. And so, okay, and so let me
take you down this path because my thought process as
far as the technology bad thing so, and the thing
I was really pointing to was the fact that you
have h you know, previous iterations of human civilization that

(48:27):
advanced to their highest level of advancement, whatever that was,
and their time, and then they all disappeared from the
face of the earth. And it's like, Okay, did the
extraterrestrial step in to say, nah, this, You're not supposed
to be going this way. You should be going a
different path, and technology is not the way. And when

(48:47):
you think about what technology has brought us, it's made
a lot of our lives simpler, but it also has
allowed us to be able to destroy a planet truthfully. Yeah,
And so it's like, is that the knowledge that that
we're supposed to have or are we supposed to be
on a different path than that? And it's hard to
even think why that would make sense because you held

(49:10):
up a smartphone that makes our lives simpler and a
lot of different things also do. But is that pathway
the end result? Does it take us somewhere where we
gives us power? Probably we shouldn't have as human beings
to destroy things as big as a planet.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah. Like I said, I think that if we were
evolving ourselves spiritually more, that technology wouldn't be such such
a threat to us surviving, you know, or not doing that.
I think that there were like Native Americans, you know,
they very very They weren't focused so much on the

(49:50):
physical things I feel and developing you know, their own
technology and things like that. They lived in a spiritual world.
Because we do. We live in a very spiritual world,
and we ignore that. You know that that veil between
the paranormal and the physical reality. There's a brick wall

(50:10):
between us right now, and I don't think it's supposed
to be that way. I think that we're supposed to
be able to access the other side easier, but we
just don't.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Now when you say that, explain exactly what you mean
by that access the other side more easier.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Well, you know, people talk about about the veil, you know,
that's in between us and the spiritual realm, the paranormal realm,
the ability to see cryptids and ghosts and connecting with
our higher selves. I think that most people don't have
the ability to do that, whether that be something that

(50:47):
was put there intentionally by you know, the people in charge,
or if it's because we're just not focusing on it.
But I think there's something definitely blocking us from accessing
that side.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
And that's a great place to transition because I wanted
to you know, that veil that you talk about it,
and that's why I wanted you to explain it, because
it's exactly how I feel about that that you know,
the reason why, you know, you may have certain individuals
that see things that other individuals don't because they can
see through the veil. Essentially in that moment, and I

(51:26):
was under in as far as the thought process on that,
where I'm at with that is Is it essentially that
there is a veil that separates us and we are
temporarily peeking through that veil when we have like a
bigfoot sighting or cryptociding or is it that or paranormal
or is it more so that we all exist in

(51:48):
this realm, but we just have we're putting on glasses
that allow us to see a different spectrum of light
or whatever within our own reality.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Well, I think I think that we should be able
to access that other side more easily. But I don't
think that we're supposed to be able to see at
twenty four to seven. That would destroy our human experience.
I mean, could you imagine walking around and you're seeing spirits,
dead people, aliens and moth man. There would be no

(52:19):
human experience at that point. You're freaking out. So I
think it's a good I think that there's a good
thing that there is some sort of separation between us
and that. But I don't think we should be afraid
of it. I think that we should be able to
access it a little more easily.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
When we talk about the phenomena, do you think that
aliens the experience we have with extrass reels? Do you
think they are in any way connected with also bigfoot
sightings and then also crypto sidings, or do you think
these are separate things that we just happen to be
dealing with.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
No, And I'm going to say something that a lot
of people aren't gonna like. I think it's all kind
of the same thing. Right now, I'm in pre production
to put out a TikTok series called Unify the WU.
And this is all the research that I've done, going, Hey,
you see this experience that this person had over here
with bigfoot, and you see this person over here that

(53:15):
had this experience with aliens. Do you see all the
similarities and how these people are saying the same things
and reporting basically this same phenomenas and things like that happening.

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the conversation. So, Julie, at the end of the hour
you were just beginning to talk about I asked you
a question on did you think the UFO experience is
related in any way to the bigfoot and cryptive experience.

(01:00:38):
You stated you are doing a show called Unifying the
WU if you wouldn't mind going and jumping into that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Okay, Yeah, So, I just I just kind of started
getting this going basically just from all the years that
I've been doing this, I just I noticed a lot
of similarities between different experiences that people have. Whether it
be a UFO siting, a Bigfoot sighting, whether it be

(01:01:06):
you know, a ghost, or whether it be moth manner,
you know, any of them, there's a lot of similarities
between them, and I just I don't hear enough people
bringing that up, and I would like that to be
talked about more. So. I'm in the middle of putting
together like a TikTok series that's going to unify the

(01:01:27):
WU and bring all this weird stuff together.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I think that's an excellent, awesome idea, especially if you
can show where these things actually intersect and correlate. We
talk about things all the time and we're like, oh, yeah,
you know, that's kind of weird. That's kind of the
same thing Bigfoot do, or that's the same thing I
heard about this other cryptids. So it's cool that you'll
have one place where you're kind of focusing on those

(01:01:51):
aspects as a form of research right there, and definitely
something I don't think I see anyone else doing in
the field, So that should be a cool thing. So
then let's start with Bigfoot then, So your experience with Bigfoot?
Have you had any and what is your thought process
on Bigfoot?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
So I'm part of a Bigfoot reachar research team down
here in Florida. It's called Creature Man with Stevie Strings,
Christy Angelo, Brian Bowden over there it is. Yeah, Brian's
Brian's been coming out of investigating. He's a part of
the team.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Now as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
So we go out, we got to get out there
on the field and we do our thing. I've never
had an encounter, but I've definitely I've seen weird lights
out there, and I've definitely heard some things that is
there's some undeniable evidence out there. I've also, starting back
in January, about every six weeks or so, I've been

(01:02:46):
flying out to wherever Mike Fammelant is with his YouTube
show In the Shadow of Big Red Eye, you know,
getting out the field with him and filming at night
and looking for him and going to the Bigfoot festivals
and talking with other researchers and gathering as much information
as I can. But like I said, I've never had
I've never seen them with my own eyes, but I've

(01:03:08):
definitely heard heard enough to where i could say I
know it's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Okay, okay. And so when you say that something's out there,
is that something necessarily bigfoot or could it be something
else that is still unexplainable.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Well, nobody can ever say that they know one hundred
percent for sure unless they've been this close to them.
But a lot of the things that you know, recordings
and things that people have reported hearing, I've heard, you know,
I've heard the howls, I've heard the tree knocks, I've

(01:03:50):
heard the whoops, never seen them though, So it's some
of the evidence that we've collected before. You know, we've
sent sent it into different experts and things, and you
know it's it's come back, well it's not any known
animal that you know, we can't tell you. That's definitely
not an animal that we know of. I think it's

(01:04:11):
really interesting the ones that come back where they say
it's it's as low. There's frequencies that are so low
in the same time, like simultaneously so high that unless
there's you know, a Mongolian throat singer out there or
throwth singer that's hanging out in the woods trying to
hope a bunch of bigfoot researchers, you know, we don't

(01:04:32):
know what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I've been and even with my buddy, Sir Brian, he's
my buddy and real good guy man. We talked behind
the scenes. He's just a real cool dude and he's
he's real blunt too about a lot of things as well.
And I'll ask him and I'll ask you as well,
because I you know, i've done shows recently. I feel
like under the phenomenon umbrella, you do have UFOs, you

(01:04:55):
have cryptids, you have bigfoot. I've talked to enough people, well,
I've had my own sp to know UFOs are real.
I've talked to people who have experienced bigfoot, and I've
talked to enough people to feel like what they're saying
is authentic in what they're saying they saw. Same thing
with cryptids, probably more or less so because you don't
have as many people that really talk about cryptis for

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whatever reason. But you know, I've been a little critical
of the bigfoot community only because it seems like, you know,
I want them to get their the research, the standard
of research and standard of evidence more so to the
levels of the other things that so we have paranormal

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for instance, where we have videos of things being kicked
off account shelves and doors slam and shut and things
that just say, dude, that you that's authentic what you're seeing.
Same thing with UFOs. It's weird. Thing in the sky
is shifting and shape shifting doing these things. But the
only the area where we don't have that is in
the bigfoot community. And then I'm one why because when

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I ask people, they say, oh, well, they avoid cameras.
They if you put a camera out, they just avoid
those they don't want to be seen on camera or
or if you you know, just various other reasons why
we can't get more evidence on them. And everybody wants
to lean in on Patterson Gimlin from back in the
citys and that's like the golden standard, and it's like, okay,

(01:06:23):
but what else do we have? Right? And it's like
I when I talk to Bigfoot experiences, they say, well,
you know what, I kind of want to just keep
the experience of myself because you know, it matters to me,
and it matters if I saw it, and it's a
personal experience for me. But I'm like, well, how are
you helping the research move forward? What do you do? Like,
what is your goal when you go out there? Is

(01:06:45):
it to capture some sort of validation where you can
then further the research to show the world or is
it more so just for you and your time out there,
your experience.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
For me personally? I go out there for me, I
am one of those people. Now if I can, if
I can capture the evidence, yes, we're sharing that with
the world. That's going out to everybody, because that information
belongs to everybody. But really it's it's it's more for me.
I feel I feel like especially Bigfoot encounters can be

(01:07:18):
very very spiritual for people. You know, and you were saying,
you know, how come we can't capture it? You know,
all we've had is the you know, the Patterson Gimmlin films.
You know, I've got a whole episode again that I'm
going to put out on this just on electronic interference.
Electronics will become affected across the board. It happens when

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people have UFO encounters. Everything starts glitching out, and same
thing happens with Bigfoot, same thing happens with ghosts. You know,
I think it has to do with maybe it's has
something to do with that the veil being dropped and energetically,
it takes so much for these things to manifest that
it causes everything to glitch out. Maybe it's that. There's

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a lot of theories on it, but that's what I
kind of think is just the amount of the sheer
energy that it takes for these things to appear. You know,
it's going to mess up your electronics.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
And I've heard that from enough people to feel like, Okay,
there's something to that. And also as we talk about
UFOs and extrestrials. That's also been a thing some electromagnetic
presence potentially, So we kind of are in agreeance that
there may be something like that there. And so here's
what I've reached back to. This is the thing I
reached back to and wonder why a lot of researchers

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haven't picked up on this, or maybe some of them have.
But if we can get Patterson gimblin and most people
say that's authentic, and it's the explanation is because it
was a mechanical camera, then why wouldn't we bring more
of those type of cameras out in the field when
it becomes to bigfoot research? Why would we bring cameras
that we know won't work? Is that are the ones

(01:08:53):
that we know captured Patterson Gimlin Like that should be
a common sense thing to me when we're talking about
bigfoot reach search, you should be on eBay looking for
the Patterson give the camera and taking it to the field.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Oh that's what I was just about to say. Did
they make those anymore like the ones that are in existence?
Do would those even work to this day? But yeah, yeah,
you know what, that's that is an excellent point, And uh,
I have never thought about that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
And here's the other thing, right, this is another thing
that I put through out there, and I had just
thought about it recently. I was like, you know what,
that makes sense too. But I'm like, okay, these things,
you know. Some people say, okay, bigfoot are interdimensional. Some
say they're not from this dimension. Some say, I don't
think from this dimension. They say they're living beings that
live here amongst us all the time. And so either

(01:09:45):
way you go with it, they are alive, supposedly right,
alive like we are. Do you agree with that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I do not think that these are strictly flesh and
blood biological creatures. I think there's way too much. There's
way too many stories that like, look at the Skinwalker
Ranch bigfoot activity. They're like, did you guys just see
that portal open up and it climb out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I think that it has the ability to be a
flesh and blood creature. I don't think that it's in
that form all the time, though.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Okay, there's a portion of the community that we'll say,
I've heard things and I've talked to so many big
Foot people that I've heard from. You don't want to
mess with these things, if you come across one, you
don't need to be around it. You need to go
the other way for your safety. And then I've heard
they come to my house every day. They come to

(01:10:40):
my house every day, they play with my kids, and
it's just a friendly thing. And what what can both
sides make sense?

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
I mean I don't, Yes, yes, I absolutely do. I
think that, especially when it comes to Bigfoot, that they're
in individual beings, just like human beings are. You've got
ones that are complete a holes and then you have
some that are super chill and really cool. You know,
it's you know they're in a bad mood, they're in

(01:11:12):
a good mood. You know they're they were like humans.
They were raised a different way in a different environment,
so they behave differently than you know, another one over here.
You know the people that say that they come to
the house every day. I love that kind of stuff.
I absolutely love when that happens because people are like,
you know what, first when this first started happening, you know,

(01:11:32):
they were aggressive and I was scared of them, but
you know, I let them know. You know, I'm not
here to I'm not here to put you on blast. Basically,
I'm not trying to get your picture and have you
be harassed and people come out here and try to
hunt you. You'll they learn to coexist with each other.
And I think that's a beautiful thing. Okay, and I'm jealous.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Have those people like, just like you said, I'm not
trying to put you on blasts and have you out
there like that? Have they in confidentiality? Have they showing
you their own proof of it? Like okay, well here's
an image. Don't tell anybody else about it, but here's
an image I've taken them while they were here. Do
you get any of that or as it's because I
find that usually the ones that have those encounters are like,

(01:12:13):
I'm not telling anyone about it, or I wouldn't have
think of taking a picture of them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Well, I think a lot of the people that don't
tell anybody about it, it's it's for fear of being
criticized and you know, locked into a looney bin somewhere.
I think people are still afraid of that. But but
you know, I gotta tell you at this point, I
say people are kind of on board and a lot

(01:12:40):
more open minded than they used to be. So just
just start talking about it. Make it make it more
of a casual part of conversations, you know, think about
I think about UFOs. People used to be very tight
lipped about that. Now you know the stranger behind you
in the grocery store probably believes in UFOs because it's

(01:13:01):
become such a part of our normal, everyday conversation at
this point. I think eventually it'll become like that with
Bigfoot two because whenever disclosure happens, then it's all out
there on the table. You're not going to be criticized.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
See. I wanted to come to that point. I wanted
to be where the Bigfoot research is at the same
level as UFO research, and even if it's behind it currently,
and you know, it's about figuring out a way to
kind of move the conversation forward. And I just feel
like the conversation has been stuck back at Patterson Gimlin

(01:13:36):
for the last sixty years. I don't see there hasn't
been any other moments in time where someone has now
advanced it. If you go to doctor Melbketchum, there's different
theories about what that was or if that was actually
what was it it was purported to be. But if
we put that a sign because we don't have any
for sure knowledge about that. There isn't anything else. And

(01:13:58):
I'm just like, Okay, I know researchers are out there
all the time attempting to further research.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
But well, there is though, there is, though, there's just
not major developments in it. I mean a large portion
of the researchers that I know have found the footprints
have either seen them with their own eyes or they've
heard the whoops, they've heard the roars. You know, like
how many bigfoot podcasts are out there. There's so many

(01:14:25):
of them because so many people have these experiences all
the time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
So what would you think what is going to be
the thing that moves it forward though, because see that
might be a thing within the bigfoot community. And that's
another thing from bigfoot researchers that I've talked to. What
they say is that other bigfoot researchers don't share their evidence.
It's a community where everyone wants to keep their evidence separate.
They don't want to ever come together and kind of

(01:14:52):
share this stuff. So that's the only way it moves
forward is when researchers put their evidence on the table,
they share it with each other. So that's kind of
how it goes, And it's from what I hear from
researchers in a big foot community is just not like that.
They don't share. And so if someone has this great evidence,
it's they're sharing it only with their little group and

(01:15:14):
they're not sharing it with the entire community and then
therefore also the world. So how do we get to
a point to where that changes. That's kind of what
I'm where I'm at with it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Well, I think that hoaxing is such a problem. Like
people think that they're funny. It's like, that's why a
lot of times, you know, bigfoot researchers will tend to
go to the same place over and over a lot,
but we ain't telling anybody where that place is because
people go, oh, you know, it'll be funny. I'll put
on a monkey suit, go run around in the woods,
won't you know, won't this be funny? You know which

(01:15:48):
is you know, which is great, except that that's a
real good way to get hurt. You know, a lot
of bigfoot researchers aren't going out there with no weapons already,
you know, saying so, I think hoaxing is a problem.
That's why a lot of researchers are so tight lipped
about it. A lot of times evidence being stolen. I

(01:16:11):
don't know if it's okay to say who, so I
won't use any names, you know, but let's just say,
for instance, do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
What I said, Todd standing go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
So there was there was a researcher this just happened
recently at one of the festivals who was selling like
second generation casts of molds that he had taken, you know,
by hand, ones that he had found and sold, you know,
one each of them. Somebody was running around that festival.
They made a bunch of copies of this man's cast

(01:16:43):
and was out there selling them hush hush, you know.
So I think that's a part of it too, is
just you can't trust everybody with all the information all
the time. And I think that probably happens in the
UFO community as well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Yes, And that get that takes me to the next
part of this actually perfectly, because one of the things
that I talk about as well is within all the
communities is self policing and so being able to kind
of extricate from within your own community the ones that
might be perpetrating these hoaxes and these frauds, kind of

(01:17:15):
pointing them out so that they don't get a chance
to fool others because you have And I talked about
a moment ago, and I'll say his name, because I
did a show on him, Todd Standing, who did the
whole big Ufo hoax about ten years ago, and it's like,
if this guy And what really made me upset about
it was was that I wasn't from the big Foot community,

(01:17:36):
so I had no awareness of who this guy was.
So I see this video that comes out maybe three
weeks ago on YouTube being promoted through Gaya, and it's
him sitting on stage with George Nury showing these images
and things that have already been debunked like ten years earlier,
but he's here today promoting them as if hey, this

(01:17:59):
is the golden data, the Holy Grail, and someone with
authority in the field is allowing them to sit there
and do that, and so it and I feel like
that can't happen, right if we got researchers like yourself
and others out there who are really doing research and
trying to bring answers to the table, how we can
even platform a guy like that? And I think just

(01:18:21):
more that self policing from within has to happen in order.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Call people out, call them out if you know that
they are lying, if you know that they're hoaxing stuff,
call them out, and platforms like this is a good
way to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
So yeah, and I do that. But here's the thing, right,
because there's a balance there. There's you want to call
them out because it's the right thing to do, but
then I think it's the people that would be exposed
from being called out that don't want you to do it,
and so you get some talk from in the community
of it's a bad thing to do that, which is

(01:18:57):
why people haven't done it, I think up to this point.
But I'm more so of the mindset that, yeah, UFOs
paranormal if you know it, because when the people from
the outside look into what we're doing into our community,
they see the hoaxers, and they see the other people
who aren't serious about their research, and then therefore they
put the label on the entire community that it's that

(01:19:19):
way with all of us. And I get offended by
that because I know that the things that I bring
forward are one hundred percent factual, no embellishment, and I
would like for what I'm doing to be taken seriously,
and I know you do the same thing for your research.
Brian does the same thing. But we have these other
guys that kind of tank the waters and make us

(01:19:40):
all look like we're just lying and not telling the truth,
and that is problematic to me. And it's just like,
I've thought about how we can kind of get rid
of that element, and the only thing is to self
police from the inside is the only thing I could
think of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Yeah, I mean, that's I think you're right about that absolutely.
I mean, but there's no there is no official Cryptid
paranormal police, so we've got to do it ourselves for
the most part, you know, and just calling people out
like that, you know, And it has happened before where
people have gotten busted faking evidence and they get kicked

(01:20:15):
out of the community, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Yeah, I saw a couple that kind of admitted on
that they were doing bigfoot hoaxes. They kind of just
had to admitted because they were kind of caught. And
it's like, how embarrassing is that for one to have
to you know, you got grown individuals out there that
are faking and hoaxing things, and it's like what is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
The reason bring back shaming people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Yeah, that's kind of what I wanted to know, because
I'm not I'm not above it. I'm not above it,
and I'm more so because when you first come in
the community, you're like eggshells, You're like, who do you do?
You really challenge this and challenge that? Let me stay
more in the middle, And the more that I've gone
and I feel like it's it's kind of more of

(01:21:01):
our duty to do exactly that and call those people
out because if we don't do it, who else will
the skeptics do it? And then we attack the skeptics
because we feel like they're just being unfair to the
community period and it should be us on the inside
that are actually doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
So well, there should be a everyone should have a
certain level of skepticism. They definitely should, you know, I
don't know if I would trust someone one hundred percent
who questions nothing. Ever, that just seems kind of kind
of dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
That is true. That is true. I did a show
on this as well on my channel. Whereas there's skeptics,
there's non skeptics, but on each side there's an extreme
side to both. There's an extreme non skeptics side, which
are just people who believe anything you tell them, and
then there's an extreme skeptical signe which they don't care.

(01:21:56):
It can exist, period, it cannot exist. So it's the
it's the ones in the middle, the ones with open
minds that are able to have this conversation. That's why
I always invite skeptics into this one. As long as
you have an open mind, you might say something that
moves the conversation along or at least gets someone thinking
about something. And I think it's what we need in
this conversation as well. It's both sides and not just

(01:22:19):
preaching to the choir or in an echo chamber, which
you find a lot of shows are. I invite skeptics
in and wish they would come in and join the conversation. Yeah, no, I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Agree with you, And I think that's a great way
to also present new ideas. You know, like, for instance,
just since we started the show tonight, there's a couple
of things I've never thought of before. It's like, oh,
that's interesting, I should probably get into that, you know,
so definitely be skeptical as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Yeah, yeah, And you know, I always people thought there
was a person that was out there. I want to
say his name tonight, but he was very skeptical of
the community. But I realized he was the only one
calling people out, and half of the people that he
brought up, I didn't have a problem with him calling out.
I'm like, yeah, call that person out, that's right exactly,

(01:23:09):
and I would tell them that man, great work calling
people out. And then I just turned around and looked
at the community, like, wait a minute, we are supposed
to be doing this, and who is actually doing this?
And I'm looking around it's like nobody. Everybody's scared to
call someone out or to kind of bring that, but
it brings credibility to from those people on the outside

(01:23:31):
who are saying, hey, at least you're attempting to hold
people accountable within your community who are committing these hoaxes,
and that brings a lot of validation and credibility to
us just through that alone. So with that being said,
we're actually going into our final break with our guests
here already Julia Simms right here on Space our radio

(01:23:53):
after our radio show's been really really interesting tonight, and
guess what we're gonna be answering your questions right after
the break. I have them right here. I promise we
are waiting for the answer. I totally agree. Thanks for
that super chat. We'll be right back after this break.

(01:24:22):
All right, we are clear and awesome, awesome stuff, Julia,
having a great time talking to you tonight. Yeah, I
gotta get you on my list now. Now you gotta
be on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
So absolutely love that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Okay, we'll set up another date. I'll send you something
right after the show. And everyone else, guess what you
can connect with Julia on Facebook. It's para Marvis posted
in the chat. We do appreciate you doing that, sir. Also,
I do have let me see filter through these questions

(01:24:54):
real quick here. Any obviously, any additional questions, just post
them in caps and we'll try to squeeze them all
in here. Let's see okay, all right, yep, we got

(01:25:20):
a few questions in here. I know we got some
great question askers out there, So let's go ahead and
get those things posted in the chat here. And so
what do you got going on? So you got the
unify the WU, So how are you doing that on TikTok?
So are you doing that in this sort of setting?
Or how are you gonna do it out in a bout.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Yeah, you know, I'm I'm actually I'm about to leave Florida.
I got some friends with some land up there in
the Blue Ridge Mountains. They got a big camper. I'm
gonna be out there kind of getting into the research
side of this a little bit more. But I'm also
you know, I'm still traveling intermittently with Mike and his show,

(01:26:03):
so I'll be out there at various locations. So you know,
they're gonna be quick. It's not gonna be a thirty
minute long episode or anything. You know, It'll be TikTok
Instagram things like that, so it'll be shorter.

Speaker 7 (01:26:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
I wouldn't want each post I put out to be
any longer than like five minutes or so, so it'll
kind of be all over the place. Like I said,
I'm still kind of like in the pre production sort
of planning phases of this. I'm getting all the research together.
I'm talking to all kinds of people, you know, other
podcasters and experiencers and researchers and just everybody and just

(01:26:35):
putting together piece by piece see where it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
That's gonna be awesome. I still i'm a little bit
familiar with TikTok. I'm kinda on there right now, but
I'm just trying to figure out how to really utilize
it the best way, because you know, we do long
form stuff here, so we're not doing a lot of
short form stuff, and that's where I'm trying to convert
my mind into doing short form stuff. But it seems

(01:27:03):
harder than it should Turning the cat on for a
few minutes in recording should not be as hard as
doing a three hour live stream. It shouldn't be, but
for me, it feels that way.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, it just seems like it. You know, Honestly, I
feel like Instagram because I'm more familiar with it. I
like Instagram better, but I've never really gotten to TikTok.
That's for the young focus, yeah, but you know, you
can reach a broader audience that way, and for me,
it's about getting the information out there and if that's
the best way to do it, and that's what I'm
gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's why I'm focusing on that too,
because I look at analytics and demographics and I'm just
I think, you know, the young people are interested in
the conversation and they should be brought in and we
kind of got to go meet them at their medium,
you know, in order to do it, because we can't
expect them to They'll never get over on Facebook and

(01:27:56):
you know all these old folks platforms, they won't do it.
They just won't. So we have to kind of go
meet them where they are and get them engaged. And
maybe that's the missing piece is when we think about
unifying humanity and getting everybody on the same page, that's
a good chunk of the population is that younger demographics.
So if they're not being included in it, then how

(01:28:17):
can we ever think that we're gonna get to that
point where we're talking to the majority. Right, So that's
kind of the goal here and why I want to
make that transition. So any TikTok specialists out there, or
anybody that that that can understand what I'm saying and
help out with that, please reach out mister robg at

(01:28:39):
gmail dot com, after hours at space out radio dot
com either one and fill me in, man, fill me in.
Let me know what I'm missing here, And what's the
name of that show you mentioned. I want to make
sure everybody goes to check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Uh, the one that with Mike. Yeah, Mike my launch show.
He's got a YouTube channel. The YouTube channel is Sussex
County Bigfoot, but the name of the show is in
the Shadow of Big Red Eye. He's currently right now,
he's filming season nine, I believe the middle. Yes, he's

(01:29:16):
been at this for like four years, but ever since January,
I mean I've I have flown out and met him
and traveled everywhere from upstate New York all the way
over to Alabama and everything in between so far. So
sometimes we're hitting up a different state every day, just
getting out in the woods and he's doing presentations and
have a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Awesome, awesome guys. So you guys can go over there
and keep up with Julia until she gets the you
to find the wu going and you'll be able to
pick up with her on that as well. So make
sure you guys go over and show some love. As
we have about fifteen seconds here, coming back from radio break.

(01:29:57):
I got some of your questions here. I know they'll
start flowing once we start asking him, but uh, we'll
jump right into it. Five seconds and here we go. Okay,
it's actually gonna be a little longer here.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
All right, everybody, welcome back Space Out Radio after hours
radio show. We're on the back half of the second
hour getting into your questions here with our guestcrypted researcher
Julius simm talking about unifying the wut UFO's Bigfoot, all
sorts of topics. I'm telling you it's been good. If
you missed it, pop into archive YouTube dot com porta

(01:31:02):
flax at Space Style Radio. As we jump into the
first question that I can see here of the night
that came from Let's see that one came from Jose Sanchez,
rob Gie and guest. Have you heard of the Nordics
being confused for angelic beings before?

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
I've heard some theories on that. Maybe not necessarily just
the Nordics, but I've heard theories that maybe extraterrestrials. You know,
they're telling us that they have good intents, but they're
actually demonic. But I think that that's something to look
for with any of these creatures or beings. Basically, just

(01:31:49):
don't believe everything you're told by them. Author said, I'm here,
I'm here to bring you peace and love. Well, keep
in the back of your mind that that may not
be true. It might be and evil type of thing
trying to communicate with you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Yeah. Yeah, it just never made sens me. So Nordic's
being confused for Agelic beings. Yeah, I've never heard of it.
I can't say that I ever have, but I can
understand why that might be the case. But let me see,
next question is okay, this was a statement more so

(01:32:24):
from Matteo. Say, Julia's right, there are less and less
people who would overreact as the years go by, religion
in the West has become less extreme talking about disclosure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Yeah, that's true, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Jose Sanchez, it would seem that the Venusians and the
Nordics are either one and the same or related in
some way. What do you think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
I'm not sure if he means just the way that
they appear physically to us, or if you're talking about
the messages that they're trying to relay in the things
that they say to us. But I mean, yeah, I
mean I think it's possible that they are. You know,
like we've got same thing with like we were saying
about bigfoots. You know, there's different races and different types

(01:33:11):
of people. Why wouldn't there be different races and different
types of aliens as well.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
And it'll be it'll be interesting to find out what
the true link is if we are all linked overall,
or if we are only linked to certain ones. That's
going to be the thing to find out next. C
Tech Mateo asking disclosure or even confirmation, which we've talked
about so much before, would radic would radically alter society

(01:33:38):
and the thinking of everyone in the world. As you're
both thinking, Okay, that's another statement. So he agrees with
what we were talking about, Jose Saidchz again. Question theory.
It is believed that time travel to the future is possible,
but not to the past. So if said time traveler
goes to future, how does he she come back again
to our presence.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Well, I mean, it's believed that it's not possible to
go to the past, but we don't know that for sure.
I do actually love that theory though, about the time travel,
that aliens are just us far in the future, and
that they've come back to try to intervene and change
the course of you know, change the path that we're
going down. I love that theory though.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
I love that topic, and you know, so let me
see here is it is it believed. It is believed
the time travel to the future is possible, but not
to the path It's so okay, I.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Mean, we don't know for sure if that's true or not.
But you know, how would he or she come back
again to our present the better technology from the future.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Because there is a I don't know what you would
call the guy. I think he's a scientist. He's modern day,
current day, and he's working on the time travel theory
and he thinks that he has the ability to build one.
But what he's saying, what he was saying was is
that you can only or theoretically you should only be

(01:35:08):
able to go as far back in time as when
that time machine was created, so like there wouldn't be
any prior to today. If he did it today, you
couldn't go further back than today in the past. But
that makes sense to me. But I don't know, I
don't know where I'm at on that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Yeah, I'm not I don't think I know enough about
building of time travel machines to accurately answer that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Well, let me ask you this. If you could travel
back to a time that was interesting to you, what
would it be? What would you want to go back
and see.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Ooh, I would really like to see before we before
we were documenting time when people just lived in a
very very spiritual type existence. You know, so probably like
above cave made, but before we had like a system

(01:36:02):
of government and people just live they lived with the earth.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Yeah, I agree with you. That'd be an awesome time
as well. Let me see Polly Roderman always great questions saying, question,
how deep does how deep does the government control on
our minds? Mind lab in order to make from the
alien narrative threat?

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Give me one second hand, I'm not totally sure I
understand the question.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
So maybe I'm just reading it here. So how does
the deep does the government control? So how in order
to make the alien I think, in order to make
the alien threat and narrative? How does the deep does
the government control of our minds? Uh? Go, in order
to make the alien threat and a narrative to us
as human beings?

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
I mean, do you think that our minds are being controlled?
Because I do. I definitely do to an extent. I
mean I don't think that we're out there being puppeteered necessarily,
but you know, I think that there's a great influence
that we are not aware of that's happening, that's guiding
us one direction or another, depending on what that agenda is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
So with my labs, people think or in that whole theory,
they say that government's military. We're being abducted essentially by
our own government, and they're making it seem like extraterrestrials.
What do you even think about that? Because I'm not
really totally on board with that thought process.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
I don't know it seems right. I mean, I'm not
saying that it's that that would be incorrect. I just
think that's a waste of an amazing resource. I think
they know enough about it at this point, and if
the government wants to delve into someone's personal life and
find out a lot about one specific person, they can
do that pretty easily. I don't think there needs to

(01:38:10):
be that much of a con I mean, unless they're
experimenting on people, which again they could easily do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
That's the whole part of it that I don't get,
because like I said, they could easily find out anything
about anyone. I just always have a question, like what
would the government gain from just being involved in that
whole situation? I always ask that answers I get don't
always truly answer it for me. So still the question
that I have.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Maybe like a personal gain or something, you know, for
the one percent, Yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Why would they what would making the what would faking
an alien invasion do for them? It's always what I've
thought about, and I just can't think of anything that
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Because perception is control. Maybe it's a part of a
larger agenda or something, you know, and if you know,
we are perceiving the world the way that they want
us to perceive it, then they would be able to
control us. Further from that, but I mean, an alien
invasion seems kind of pretty out there. Yeah, that's what
they were doing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Because if that goes wrong, if this is a plan
that you put together, if that whole thing goes wrong,
it could how could you recover from that? And what
There would be so many different moving pieces to that
that you would have to try to correct. And that's
why I just don't see it as realistic, although it's
still I'll be open to it. The next question comes
from Roger Murray asking you is the Jersey Devil real?

(01:39:37):
Is it a real cryptid? In your opinion?

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
So I don't know a ton about the Jersey Devil.
But Mike Famlon he is from. He lives in New
Jersey and that's where he's from, and his take on
that is that the Jersey Devil is not a real thing.
But I didn't know this. There's a community, a small
community of sand hill cranes up there, which is something
that we see in Florida every day. I didn't know

(01:40:02):
that they were up there that far north. And if
you've never seen a sand hill crane, it looks like
a big, flying, terrifying dinosaur kind of a thing if
you didn't, especially if you saw that at night. They're huge.
These things are massive, and they're really really ugly. So
if you had if you were just seeing one of those,
especially at night, flying in the sky and you just

(01:40:24):
caught a glimpse of it or something, he thinks they're
sandhill grains and they were just mistaken, you know, the
first time anyone ever really saw one. I never seen
one before. But like again, I don't know a ton
about Jersey Devil.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Yeah, and that was I was saying earlier. It is
the whole cryptic side of it. I'm open to it all.
And the reason why I walk into because I question things,
and I don't want to ever make it seem like
I'm question in it because I don't believe in it.
Question it because I think you should always question things.
And the thing is is that I always start out

(01:40:59):
the conversation saying, we had sixty foot lizards walking on
this planet. That we know it for sure. So if
that happened, then yeah, everything else is possible. We're sitting
on a rock that's floating in something we call space
that is supposedly doesn't end, it's infinite, and we're going
around a ball of fire. And if that's what is

(01:41:21):
going on, did anything else is possible? What are we
talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Yeah, stranger things have happened that we have, you know,
solid evidence of I mean, why couldn't you believe that
there's other creatures from another place visiting sometimes? You know,
there's all kinds of weird stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
And I say that to skeptics too, because it's like,
if you really are open mind you're thinking about it,
you should be like, yeah, that is weird, So okay, yeah,
I'm open. I do understand that we should be open
to anything being possible, But we have Jose Sanchez let
me see the engineer. Blah blah blah. Okay, it's not
a question, but did drop one in here, Saint Julia,

(01:42:03):
in the spirit of unifying the wu any thoughts on
the relationship between ET's and Bigfoot. We kind of talk
about that, but I guess you can go deeper.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Yeah. One of the theories that I kind of think
about a lot, and you know, I'm always really interested in,
is that they are coming here from other that they're
they're coming here from other planets. Basically, you know that
they're dropped off here for whatever reason that might be.

(01:42:32):
Because a lot of times, and this is what I'm saying,
how I also kind of think that it's all related
a lot of times. If you have someone you know
and I mean, definitely look into this too, someone will
call the local police station they say, I saw these
really weird big lights in the sky, and then I
saw a craft flying in the air right afterwards. And

(01:42:52):
then right around the same time frame, you'll get somebody
who calls the police station to say, I saw these
really weird lights out in the woods, and I swear
I saw Bigfoot. It'll happen at the same time and
very close to each other. So I think that there
definitely is some sort of correlation between the two.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Yeah, and I always bring this up and it doesn't
I don't care how silly it sounds. It just is
something to look at, because when you think about Bigfoot
and then their connection to things coming from space, it
goes back to was that Star Wars. You have Chewbacca
and he's sitting right there on the deck with the
human beings and creatures from other planets, the Galactic Federation,

(01:43:29):
and they're flying through space and they're visiting locations. Sometimes
Chewy comes down to Earth is I mean, to the
planet they're visiting. We've seen it. And so I just
say that because it is art imitating life. Is life
imitating art sort of thing? Is where I catt with that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
I think that Hollywood this is not, you know, a
new theory or anything, but I think that Hollywood definitely
puts out small pieces of information and works with the
government like that. It's almost like little little bits of
soft disclosure here and there.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
And I think that we go back Steven Spielberg had
you know, they talk about close encounters of the third
kind being that as well, where the government had to
tell him something because he's never had an experience himself,
Steven Spielberg, but his movie is a blow by blow
documented account of a lot of individuals out there. Just

(01:44:22):
to the t it's like, how did you know this?
How did you know? Same thing now with Jordan Peel
and I pointed that out with note everybody thought it
was ridiculous, even me initially, when it's like, Okay, the
spaceship is alive, it's the alien what does that even mean?
But then there's been more and more things to point
to that say these things might be alive for whatever reason,

(01:44:43):
whatever that means to people out there, they might have
some sort of biological something going on with these crafts.
So yeah, let me see here we got c tech mateo.
Question of Juliet, what level of confirmation or disclosure do
you think it would take to cause society as a

(01:45:05):
whole to make the big peradigm shift that we're all
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
A worldwide event? Probably, you know, I think that if
they appeared just like the movies, if they appeared at
strategic places all over the world at the same time,
it doesn't matter what you believe or your background, It
doesn't matter what part of the world you're from if
the whole world all of a sudden was seen at

(01:45:32):
all at the same time, I think that would probably
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Yeah, I always walk outside, and I said this, when
I go outside, take the trash out or whatever. If
it's nighttime, I walk out in the garage. As soon
as I get under the open sky. The first thing
I do is I look up. Then I look it
up over here, then I look back behind me, and
then I continue doing what I'm doing. And then on
the way back in, I'd look around as well, and

(01:45:57):
then I go in and I do it every single time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
It's funny that you say that, though, because you know,
there's different types of bigfoot researchers, and there's people that
always stare at the ground because they're looking for tracks.
That's their thing, you know, They're looking for the footprints.
And then you've got the people that are always looking
off to their sides, you know, because they want to
see if anything's flanking you, anything, if anything's walking side
by side and watching. I'm always I am like this

(01:46:21):
all the time. I'm always looking up, you know. I
just I feel like that there's going to be some
sort of correlation or something. I'm like there's something up there.
There's gonna be something down here.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
I'm looking for the mothership to everyone the big triangle?
Did people say is hovering over neighborhoods at two or
three in the morning, and people so many people have
said this. I'm just walking outside like this is the day. Now,
look up. It's not there, okay, But as long as
I keep going, and I always wonder, I'm like, okay,
what if I would have went out thirty minutes earlier,
or what if I would have waited to take it

(01:46:52):
out a little later? Would that would it have been
there then? And it's just something that I can't get
out of my mind. Let me see your men asked
a question. We had a case of a woman from
the Ufo community. A legend the aliens took her boy
to kill her boy. Oh, it looks like government mind control.
And yeah, that's a rabbit hole, right, because you can
there's conspiracies of governments doing crazy things, unspeakable things to

(01:47:17):
their society. We know that that has been done in
the past for different various reasons. I don't know if
this correlates to that, but it could be something born
off of something. And then now at this point it's
UFOs or aliens. Yeah, that could go a whole different place,
but it's definitely you know of governments that have done

(01:47:40):
things to their community for unspeakable reasons. So with that
being said, we have gray owl thoughts on why sasquatch
researchers always see sasquatch, were wolf detectives always see were wolves.
Shape shifting or individual relatism relatives.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Yeah, you know what, I actually I have a theory
on that too. I think that sometimes certain things appear
to certain types of people because it's what their mind
can handle, or it's what it's what their mind would
naturally go to. You know, like a lot of times

(01:48:24):
people even that have the same experience, they'll they'll say, oh, no, no, no,
I what I saw looked like that looked like a
monkey to me, And the same person of no, that
definitely looked like a wolf to me. You know. So
maybe maybe it's just the way certain people's brains are wired,
or maybe that's just all that they're capable of seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
Is that where pidolia could come in And sometimes you know,
being that you wanted you out to look for a
certain things, so you see that certain thing, right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Yeah, I think there could be that night. I forget,
I forget the name of the the name of the
thing that happens. But it's it's this theory where it's
scientific theory that if a group of people are all
thinking about something or focusing on something for long enough
that they'll all start seeing it. So I think it
could be that too. If you're spending all day every

(01:49:16):
day thinking about dog Man, right, and everyone you're talking
to and everyone's a dog bit, you're all gonna make
that manifest whether it be physically or in your head.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
M Okay Meno from OZ nineteen seventy seventy five says
math delusion. Could it be that?

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
It could be? But there's way too much evidence out there.
It's not like there's no evidence. I mean, this is
we're talking thousands and thousands of people reporting this stuff.
So if that's what that comment means, then that would
be my response to that. I suppose, and.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
I think maybe it's not actually delusion, but like a
manifestation of group thought. Maybe you know what I mean,
because the group thought is that that that's what they
all saw. Yes, Okay, Polly Rodoman, what if Bigfoot and
dog Man are alien species? On Earth and we don't
realize it looking for the typical species on Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
Yeah, yeah, unify that. I think that's definitely something that
could be the case.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Well, if they can survive here, if something is brought here,
they can live in these conditions. And I think, truthfully,
when I look around, you see things like you go
in the ocean to see a cottlefish. You can go
and see these really really weird things that don't wind
up with anything else on the planet. I forgot there

(01:50:46):
were some examples where there was I think, like a
mosquito doesn't have any sort of purpose in this ecosystem,
and then there was something else in the sea. I
can't remember what it was, but there are examples of
different things that just don't have a place, like they
could be taken away and it would not affect the
ecosystem at all. No, I'm with you on that. I

(01:51:10):
don't think, what.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Do we do, what do we actually contribute to this planet?
Maybe we're the aliens.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
I'm with you on that. That's where we can kind
of because that was actually the last question there that
we had. So let's let's end it with that, because
that's one thing I talk about all the time, it
just seems like human beings, like we don't fit within
this natural thing that's going on here. Everything that we
do goes against making the planet move forward. Like we
have a group of us that are conservative or conservationists essentially,

(01:51:44):
but not many of us. And it's like I've asked
a question as well as like, dude, would an extraterrestural
come here see our species if they didn't know who
we were and what we were, would they look at
us at us as some sort of like like a cancer,
like a like a parasite, Like we have to we

(01:52:05):
can't let this off this planet, like whatever this is,
this can't leave this planet, and they kind of make
sure that we don't, and they're staying here to make
sure that we never get the chance to leave here,
because we would obviously do the same thing in other places.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
Right unless we were spiritually evolved enough to not do
terrible things, But we're not there yet.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
That is awesome, man, And I'm glad that you got
a chance to answer you that because I've been thinking.
But that's one of the things I think about all
the time. It's like they want to help us get
off this planet, Like what makes you think that. What
makes you think that they are here just to do that?
Likens like we've done our own son. Why are they
at our nuclear sites? They want us to get rid

(01:52:48):
of our nukes or do they not want us to
spin nukes out into the universe to poison other planets
where they say, hey, you guys plant poison this planet,
but we're not gonna let John here to poison these
other planets, Like, how could you say either way? And
the people that say no, this is what it is.
Those are the people that I kind of tend to

(01:53:09):
stay away from or be like, why would you be
so definitive on that statement. We got about thirty seconds left.
If you want to shout yourself out in where people
can find you, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Hit me up on Facebook, Julia Simms. I'm on Instagram
as Julia srq eight. Definitely. If anybody wants to add anything,
or anybody wants to talk and get weird with it,
let me know and.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
I would love to have you back, so we'll talk
again after the show, set up the next date and
get back into some really good, awesome, weird conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
All right, Juliet, thanks for coming in. You have a
great rest of your night, Thank you as well. All right, guys,
that was awesome, Julia Simms. We're gonna be back with
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Speaker 7 (02:00:58):
Welcome to Tales Untold and Missing Person's Mysteries on spaced
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I'm here to take you on a journey of mysteries,
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adventure of tales I'm told and missing person mysteries. We

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have Angela Marie Hammond. On April fourth, nineteen ninety one,
twenty year old Angela Hammond was at a phone both
in Clinton, Missouri, at around eleven forty five pm, talking
to her fiance, Rob Shaeffer. The phone was located in
a parking lot outside of the Food Barn store in
the center of town near Jefferson and Second Streets. Angela

(02:01:41):
had parked her car in order to make the phone
call to Rob because she wanted to let him know
that she was too tired to meet with him that
night like they had planned, and just wanted to go home,
take a bath, and relax instead. The two lived together,
but had plans to meet somewhere after they both got
out of work. While on the phone with her, she
mentioned a mysterious pickup truck that had just started incessantly

(02:02:04):
circling the boothshoes in while she was talking to it.
She became even more suspicious when the man driving the
truck parked his car next to hers and got out,
looking all around on the ground with some sort of light,
as though he were trying to find some not knowing
what was going to happen next, but having a bad
feeling about the whole situation. Angela described both the man

(02:02:26):
and his truck to her fiance. She described the man
as being filthy and bearded. Suddenly Angela started screaming and
the line had gone completely dead. Rob was only a
few blocks away and immediately threw the phone down, got
into his own vehicle, and spent all the way to
where angel had been talking with him just moments earlier.
On the way to the scene, though, he heard her

(02:02:48):
scream and call out his name as he passed. The
truck that he noticed looked just like the one she
had been describing to him before all hell broke blues.
It was a late model nineteen sixties or early nineteen
seventies Green Forward F one to fifty truck. He followed
the truck for about a mile down Second Street and
Culvert Drive, but the very sudden shifting of gears broke
down his vehicle's transmission and his car stalled in the

(02:03:11):
middle of the road as he helplessly watched the man
drive away in the truck with his terrified fiance inside.
Angela was four months pregnant and was never seen or
heard from again. Rob said that he had gotten a
better look at the truck Angela had been taken into,
and reported that it had a water decal or some
sort of outdoor scene covering the whole back window, that

(02:03:31):
it possibly had a white top, and possible.

Speaker 10 (02:03:34):
Damage to the left front fender.

Speaker 7 (02:03:36):
Witnesses reported seeing a Caucasian male driving a similar looking
truck near the phone booth at the same time Angela disappeared.
The man has never been identified, but was reportedly wearing
overalls and a dark colored baseball cap. He wore glasses
and had a beard mustache. A composite sketch was completed
based on witness testimony, and though Rob was initially considered

(02:03:59):
a suspect, he passed a polygraph test and was eventually
ruled out. At the Timer disappearance, Angela worked in a
bank and attended classes at Central Missouri State University in Warren, Missouri.
Angela's a white female who will turned fifty three years
old on February ninth, twenty twenty four, and was only
twenty years old at the Tiger disappearance. She was between

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four feet eleven and five feet tall and weighed between
one hundred and twenty and one hundred and forty pounds.
She was wearing a white button down shirt with black
spots on it, black slacks, and white sneakers. In nineteen
ninety one, Angela's teeth were said to have be in
excellent condition. Her nickname is Angie and she has brown
hair and brown eyes. She wears contact lenses and has

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a scar on her upper lip.

Speaker 10 (02:04:45):
Anyone with any.

Speaker 7 (02:04:46):
Information about this case should contact the investigating agency, the Clinton,
Missouri Police Department at six six to zero eight eighty
five five five six'.

Speaker 10 (02:04:56):
One next.

Speaker 7 (02:04:58):
Up Brandon Lawson Brandon Mason lawson was born On november,
eighteenth nineteen eighty, six In Fort, Worth, texas in The United.
States his parents' names Are brad And, kimberly and he
has three siblings Named, Brittany, kyle And. Billy brandon and
his common law, Wife ledessa were high school sweethearts and

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had three children.

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
Together on the.

Speaker 7 (02:05:21):
Evening Of August, day twenty, thirteen twenty six year Old
brandon had an argument With lodessa at their home In San, Angelo,
texas and as per the, agreement the two had made
with one. Another when things got too, heated one of
them would leave and give them both time to cool,
off and that's just What brandon. Did brandon called his
father and explained the, situation saying he wanted to come

(02:05:43):
and spend the night at his. House, brad who lived
three hours, away didn't think it was a good idea
for him to drive so far away and tried to
talk his son out of. It, However brandon insisted and
they hung up with one. Another brandon left his house
in his, vehicle a Silver FORD f one fifty at
eleven fifty FOUR, pm but would never return home. Again

(02:06:05):
brandon ran out her gas on his way to his dad's,
house which was located In, Crowley, texas and he pulled
over On route two seventy seven Between San angelo And
bronte In Coke. County his, Brother, kyle only lived a
mile away from His ladessa's, house and he asked him
to bring him some gas so he could get back
on the. Road while talking To, Kyle brandon claimed he's

(02:06:28):
being chased by three, men whom he later described as
Quote mexicans in the neighborhood end. Quote kyle wasn't sure
he believed What brandon was telling, him but didn't know
why he would lie about.

Speaker 10 (02:06:38):
Such a thing.

Speaker 7 (02:06:38):
Either brandon had a history of drug, abuse but had
been completely clean for about six months leading up to
the night of his. Disappearance, However kyle asked him if
he'd been, using thinking that maybe his brother was just.
Hallucinating brandon denied being, high and after hanging up with his,
Brother kyle Called ldessa and explained what was going. On
she loved to fuel contain her house sided For kyle

(02:07:00):
and his girlfriend to pick up so they could put.

Speaker 10 (02:07:02):
Gas in it and bring it To.

Speaker 7 (02:07:03):
Brandon kyle didn't have any money on him at the.
Time the plan to Pick brandon, up bring him to
the gas station to get the, fuel and then drive
him back to his truck so he could put enough
gas in to get into the station with his.

Speaker 10 (02:07:15):
Truck to refuel it.

Speaker 7 (02:07:16):
Properly they drove to the Location brandon had given him
and saw his truck parked on the side of the,
road but.

Speaker 10 (02:07:23):
They didn't See brandon.

Speaker 7 (02:07:24):
ANYWHERE a sheriff's deputy who had been contacted by a
trucker showed up a few minutes later to check the vehicle.
Out during another call Between brandon And. Kyle After kyle
had gotten to the truck and saw the officer, There
brandon told, HIM i can see. You i'm right. Here,
however Neither kyle nor the deputy could See brandon. Anywhere
When brandon still hadn't shown up after several more, Minutes

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kyle thought it was possible That brandon simply didn't want
to have any contacts with law enforcement because he had
only recently learned that there was an outstanding warrant for his.
Arrest it was related to some drug charges issued To
brandon out Of Johnson county years before in two thousand and.
Five many phone calls were made to and Front bandon's
cell phone that. Night the area had a very poor cellular,

(02:08:09):
reception so many of those calls either never went through
or were. Dropped it was at twelve thirty am That
brandon first Called kyle and told him he was out of.
Gas at twelve fifty, one just after dialing nine one,
one which we will discuss further in a, Moment brandon
Called kyle's phone and left him a. Voicemail also at
twelve fifty, One brandon called a, desca but she didn't

(02:08:31):
pick up because her phone had been left in her
car that, night.

Speaker 10 (02:08:34):
Which wasn't too.

Speaker 7 (02:08:35):
Unusual at twelve fifty, Two brandon Called Audrey kyle's wife and, Said, Audrey,
Audrey i'm. Bleeding those are the last known words ever
to be spoken By Brandon. Lawson at twelve fifty, Four
kyle Called brandon but got no, response and at twelve
fifty Seven brandon Called kyle. Back then at twelve fifty

(02:08:57):
Eight brandon called one of his. Neighbors fifty Nine kyle
Called brandon. Again, however none of these phone calls would
last very, long and none of them Got brandon and
his brother any closer to one.

Speaker 10 (02:09:09):
Another at one o four in the, morning the nine
to one.

Speaker 7 (02:09:12):
One dispatcher Called brandon back and tried to get some more,
information but he didn't.

Speaker 10 (02:09:16):
Pick, up and she left a.

Speaker 7 (02:09:18):
Voicemail at one oh, Nine brandon Called kyle three times
in a, row and then at one fifteen called him twice.
More those are the final calls made From brandon's, phone
and from one nineteen on all calls To brandon's phone
went directly to, voicemail and no calls were ever made
from the. Phone after one Fifteen am called To. Kyle

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brandon's nine one one call became a huge subject of
debate and the hottest topic of the case overall when
it was finally released to the, public and the internet
all but blew up with theories and speculation about what
was being said and what could have happened To. Brandon
it's incredibly hard to understand what's being, said possibly due
to the poor self service in the. Area here's one

(02:10:01):
interpretation of several circulating online on the transcript.

Speaker 10 (02:10:05):
Of his original nine to one one called that.

Speaker 7 (02:10:07):
Night many people hear different, things and mostly what's being
said has never definitely been, determined but many sources believe
this is what most likely had been said that. Night
we have no opinion one way or, another but here's the.
Interpretation operator nine one one Emergency. Brandon, Yes i'm in

(02:10:28):
the middle of a. Field if they could just bring
some guys over right, here going towards avallee.

Speaker 10 (02:10:33):
On The brontes.

Speaker 7 (02:10:33):
Side my truck round on a Gas there's one car
here and guys chasing me into the. Woods please, Hurry Operator,
okay now run that by.

Speaker 10 (02:10:43):
Me one. More.

Speaker 7 (02:10:44):
BRANDON i tried talking to. HIM i totally ran into.
Them operator ah you ran into. Him, Okay, brandon just
the first. Guy in a background, Noise, BRANDON i got.

Speaker 10 (02:10:57):
Shot. Operator do you need an? Ambulance, Brandon, Yeah, NO
i need the. Cops. Operator has anybody? Hurt strange noises
in the?

Speaker 7 (02:11:08):
Background, Operator, Hello, Hello, Hello brandon very faintly helped.

Speaker 10 (02:11:16):
Me now in a slow down version of the.

Speaker 7 (02:11:19):
Call many people believe there's another voice talking saying get
up and protect, Yourself but there's just never been anything
definitive at the point in the direction of what actually
happened To brandon Loss in that. Night there's so much
rumor and speculations rounding this, case but if we're just
sticking to the, facts the case is still open and.
Unsolved brandon's family continued to search for him in the

(02:11:42):
area through the, morning but they never.

Speaker 10 (02:11:44):
Found any evidence as to.

Speaker 7 (02:11:45):
Swhereabouts law enforcement initially presumed That brandon might have been
hiding and on the run because of outstanding, warrant but
most people didn't find that, plausible given that he called
not to one one himself and specifically requested the dispatch
send the police to the. Station ladessa and the rest
Of brandon's family tried to search as much of the

(02:12:05):
area where his truck was last known to, be but
their efforts were hampered by many landowners who refused to
allow them to search their.

Speaker 10 (02:12:12):
Property not a single.

Speaker 7 (02:12:14):
Shred of evidence was ever found that would even suggest
what might have happened To. Brandon in the days following the,
disappearance law enforcement officials conducted their own small searches.

Speaker 10 (02:12:25):
In the, area but never found a heat signature nor a.

Speaker 7 (02:12:28):
Body the sheriff of Tom Green, county a man Named Nick,
hannah who was the lead investigator and A texas ranger
at the, time said he believed That brandon's body was
probably in the desolate desert area OFF us two seventy,
seven which he said was.

Speaker 10 (02:12:43):
Largely inhabited by rattlesnakes and feral.

Speaker 7 (02:12:46):
Hogs, however when they holed in on that section of
the grid and focused as searches In, bronte despite utilizing
TWO dps HELICOPTERS ATVs texas are six canaver dogs and
four different, agents no trace Of Brandon lawson was ever.
Found it's a mystery that remains, today with the many

(02:13:06):
interpretations of the nine to one to one call being
the prime focus of the whole, situation with people thinking
if he were ever to be, found what was really
being said in that phone call would be the key.

Speaker 10 (02:13:17):
To it all.

Speaker 2 (02:13:20):
And.

Speaker 7 (02:13:21):
Next Joanne Marie Peterson Joanne Marie peterson was born On may,
seventeenth nineteen seventy, two and was ten years old at
the time of her. Disappearance On february, nineteenth nineteen eighty,
Three joanne disappeared from an area near a home In
Fraser valley In British, Columbia, canada after having an argument

(02:13:41):
with their. Sister the girls had been out for a
walk and their parents weren't. Home they had an argument
And joanne started to, cry and her sister ran home
and locked her out of the. House Joe anne then
walked to The Penny pincher store that used to be
Near Veteran Watson roads And. Sardis she walked into the
store and spoke to the clerk behind the counter before

(02:14:04):
going outside to use the public pay phone booth to
make a. Call Joe anne called the operator to try
and connect with her, parents and witnesses came, forward recording
that they had seen a man inside the booth.

Speaker 10 (02:14:14):
With her at the.

Speaker 7 (02:14:15):
Time Joe anne did manage to make contact with her
mother during that call and asked her mother to come
and pick her. UP a man suddenly grabbed the receiver
and Told joanne's mother that if she wasn't there within
a half, hour he was going to call the. Police
her mother made it there within fifteen to twenty, minutes
but Joe anne was nowhere in. Sight the case quickly went,

(02:14:37):
cold despite the best efforts of THE rcmp and all
the other agencies, involved and despite desperate pleas From joanne's
family for someone to come forward.

Speaker 10 (02:14:47):
With joanne or with news of what had happened to.

Speaker 7 (02:14:49):
Her her, Mother Angela, riley in a video released by
THE rcmp On february, nineteenth two thousand and, eight twenty
five years after the disappearance, occurred pleaded with the man
who had been with her daughter by, saying please come.
Forward that would relieve me of so much. Grief please come.
Forward as a, MOTHER i am pleading for you to come.

(02:15:11):
Forward please do that for. Me the case remained, cold
but a break came three years later when a later
Dated august twenty, eighth twenty, eleven was hand delivered To
CHILIWACK Rcmp Corporal Tommy holligsworth from The Upper Fraser VALLEY
rcmp said an interview a month, later In september twenty,
eleven that there's certain DETAILS i guess that only this

(02:15:33):
person would, know meaning it had been the man who
had been with Joe anne when she disappeared who wrote the,
letter though none of the contents so it has been.

Speaker 10 (02:15:41):
Released to the.

Speaker 7 (02:15:42):
Public more conflicting information came when the investigators said that
they had been written an anonymous letter that they knew
to definitely be from the mysterious man in the dark,
coat the man who had last been with a little
girl before.

Speaker 10 (02:15:55):
She disappeared back in two thousand and, eight.

Speaker 7 (02:15:58):
And that they weren't we to present sure that he
had written the twenty eleven letter after. All in twenty twenty,
three just days before the fortieth aniversary Of joeanne's, Disappearance,
CHILIWAC rcmp announced that they had identified the man who
had been in the phone booth with Joe anne that faithful.

Speaker 10 (02:16:14):
NIGHT rcmp released this statement.

Speaker 7 (02:16:18):
Quote recently police were able to identify this mail and
rule him out as a. Suspect his identity will not
be shared with the public at this time end. QUOTE
grime Reporter John daley who's been following the case all,
along said that it's perplexing to learn that the police
have finally identified the man who was in the booth
with a little, girl but that after all these years

(02:16:39):
they publicly stated that he wasn't a suspect or even
a person of interest.

Speaker 10 (02:16:43):
Anymore he goes on.

Speaker 7 (02:16:45):
To, say one can only wonder what they've told him
and why it took so long to find, him and
why he didn't come forward, earlier or have they discovered
who he, was.

Speaker 10 (02:16:54):
Determined who he was and he's. Dead we don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:16:58):
Now there are obviously more questions than answers in this,
case more than ever. Before but The chiliwack R cmp
says that they haven't ever given up public that they
will find out what happened to Little joanne and that
they will never stop investigating this case until they have
all the. Answers John daily, said the police went to
the wall to solve this case all those years, ago

(02:17:19):
and it looks like.

Speaker 10 (02:17:20):
They're prepared to go to the wall.

Speaker 7 (02:17:21):
Again anyone with any information into the disappearance Of Joanne
Marie peterson should contact possible p neats from The CHILIWACK.
Rcmp Serious Crimes unit at six zero four seven nine
to two four six one, one or to remain, anonymous
you call The Crime Stoppers Canada Tip life at one.

Speaker 10 (02:17:43):
Eight hundred two two two eight four seven.

Speaker 7 (02:17:46):
Seven and another number you'd call with information is that
of The British COLUMBIA rcmp at seven eight eight two
nine zero three one zero.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
Zero once, Again Steve TALES i told miss Person. Mysteries
we definitely want to Thank Steve stockton for generously being
a part of the. Show and as we always, say
right it seems like, entertainment but at the end of the,
Day Steve stocking is definitely talking about our families who

(02:18:16):
have individuals that have gone. Missing and in most of
these cases that we know of that we've that we've
most of these stories that we've, heard, uh these people
are still. Missing so imagine yourself feeling that. Way somebody
that you you, know someone that you hold dear within your,
life just one day goes, missing never to you, know

(02:18:40):
show back up. Again very. TROUBLING i Couldn't it's never
happened within my. FAMILY i couldn't imagine it happening to
anyone around. Me but that's why it always tugs at a, heartstring,
right because, yeah you're entertained by the, story but then
once you realize, that wait a, minute this is real,
thing then it kind of bugs. You but we're gonna

(02:19:04):
go ahead and jump into something add something planned for
the last half of the show here, today and we're
just gonna start it now because we Have actually this
is What i'll. Do we'll start this after the. Break
and What i'll do right now is we'll jump right
into some WELL i don't do that, twice so we'll

(02:19:25):
go ahead and jump into WHAT i had planned. Here
we'll just start it off and then finish it up
after the. Break and WHAT i had found was there
were ten let's, see there were the ten most legitimate
cases OF ufo. Sidings the other day we talked about

(02:19:45):
the seven most. Compelling today we have ten of the most.
Legitimate and you know this is actually when you think about,
It for a lot of people coming into this, subject
they are only familiar with The Betty Barney, hills just
the surface levels sort of incidents that people might hear
about outside of this. Community but as you go, deeper,

(02:20:09):
obviously as most of you, know there were certain things
you learned. About first there were things that you didn't
come to until later on intil your research of the.
Subject and so we put together a list of, ten
AND i think there's like a couple overlapping from the other,
Show but if you weren't here for, that you wouldn't
even know. That BUT i just want to preface that
for our normal viewers. Here so let me go ahead

(02:20:32):
and bring up the presentation for our radio. Viewers our
YouTube audience will have some visuals to kind of go
along with. It i'll explain to you what it is
that they are looking. At but as we go ahead
and jump on into, this we let men Remove Steve stockton.
Here we have a photo list THAT i put together

(02:20:59):
in still loading here as we, speak AND i think
this is. It, yep here we. Go so we had
ten of the most LEGITIMATE ufo siets AND i was
just trying to, Say i'm, like, okay how often are
these ones even talked? About there's a few that are
more famous than a lot of the. OTHERS a couple
of them we talked about a few weeks. Ago but

(02:21:20):
we're gonna go across this whole list of. Ten we
got two minutes till, break so we can at least
get this first one out the, way so on a
list of, ten and then just think about just put
together ten in your head right now before we, start
put together top ten that you know of that you
feel are the most, compelling and then we'll see if

(02:21:41):
this list checks off your, list and maybe that's how
we can do. This so first, one in no particular,
order and not saying one is better than the, other
but the first one listed on this, list AND i
think we'll do this in let's do this in, reverse
just to even spice it up a little bit more.
Here so starting from last one first is going to

(02:22:06):
be one that everybody knows, about which we'll get out
the way really, quickly which is The Phoenix. Lights we
talked about this a couple of weeks, ago one of
the most compelling sighties AND i guess it still, is
right it kind of has to stay up. There if
you ask fifteen different people with the top ten most
compelling list OF ufo sightings, are you're probably gonna Find

(02:22:29):
Phoenix lights on every one of those, lists if not
ninety percent of those. Lists SO i kind of understand
why it's here. Today but just to kind of go
over this a HUGE v SHAPED ufo reportedly passed Over
phoenix around eight fifteen on the evening Of march, thirteenth
nineteen ninety. Seven the object was described as having, five

(02:22:51):
five or more spherical lights and was large enough to
block out the stars as it flew. Overhead people from
various Locations, arizona Including, phoenix reported seeing THE v SHAPED
ufo silently moving across the. Sky around TEN pm that,
evening THE Us Air force dropped slow falling military grade

(02:23:15):
flares into the. Sky the media captured video of the military,
exercise believing that it was connected to THE ufo. Sighting
some people think that the military deliberately filled the sky
with lights to discredit THE ufo sidings made earlier in the.
Evening Former Arizona Governor Fife simonton the third later, said,

(02:23:36):
QUOTE i can definitively say that this craft did not
resemble any man made Object i'd ever, seen and it
was certainly not high altitude flares because flares don't fly
in formation in. Quote we talked about that a little,
earlier a couple of weeks, ago but we didn't get to.

(02:23:56):
Five simington, quote we'll talk more about that and kind
of the rest of the list though right here after the.
Break this is our final break of the. Night make
sure you stay right. Here we got THAT ufo weird
news still coming up later, on so jam pack twenty
twenty five minutes left in the. Show make sure you
stay right, here or if you walk, away make sure

(02:24:16):
you come right back and we'll see you right after the.
Break Space Out, radio the After Hours Radio. Show all,

(02:24:42):
right and we are, clear, clear clear as a, bell
clear as a, bell and we'll be getting into our
final portion of the show here right after this five minute.
Break so if you step, away just make sure you
come right back as we go ahead and take a
look at a. CHAT i KNOW i Mentioned Phoenix, lights
and we do know our dear Friend Tom king filmed that.

(02:25:04):
Event he was. There you want to see Young Tom,
king just type In Phoenix lights footage and you will
see Young Tom king thirty years ago roughly talking about you,
know on top of. It, really if you really want
to talk about he's really he was on top of
it back, then which is one thing that amazes me
because when we talk about and maybe that's why WHENEVER

(02:25:28):
i talked to someone that's that was doing research or
involved in the subject thirty years, ago it's a different
climate and things felt, different things look, different and so
it's always cool to get what the perspective was at
that moment in, time, like how was the world? Feeling
what was was this something that was a blip on the?

(02:25:51):
Radar did this even make the, news you, know in
a big? Way or just getting those kind of perspectives
from the time, frame it's always cool to. Do and
knowing someone that was there in the moment that one
of these things happened or when it was a big,
thing it's always good to be able to lean on

(02:26:13):
that because you can't get that from. Reading you can't
get that from just you, know a news clip or
a video. Clip you can't get that feeling so. Specifically
that's WHY i always like to ask people from that
time frame what it felt, like, like what did you?
Feel how were people? Feeling? Right, so with that being,

(02:26:35):
said let's see, here we'll be back from. Radio here
are breaking about two and a half minutes And beno
From ours nineteen seventy five, says drones carrying a giant black. Sheet,
YEAH i mean if, yeah, okay, YEAH i MEAN i

(02:26:58):
don't know if there's evidence to say that it wasn't
drones carrying a big black, cheek BUT i doubt that
it was. That let's, See Kurt russell And Alex cooper
saw the phoenix. SIIGHTS i Know Kurt russell was supposed
to supposed to be piloting a plane back, then and

(02:27:22):
he came out only, recently right over the last so
many years and kind of said that that was the.
Case AND i think it just came to this, realization
is how is this how off Planet earth you are
as a celebrity and the superstar that you don't align
your experiences with what's happening in the news for everyone.
Else is that kind of What i'm feeling near What

(02:27:44):
i'm getting from the, Celebrity because how do you go
all those years and then just realized that you were
that you flew in and saw the phoenix lights like
you had to be living on in mentally in a
different planet than everyone else, too unless unless it wasn't
as big in the news as we think that it,

(02:28:06):
was you know when we think back, now and that's
a good way to look at, it because, hey, yeah
if it hit the, news but it barely made a
blip and didn't it hit more of the tabloid news,
circuit didn't hit the main major news. Circuit then maybe
that could be a way that you could escape from
that moment and not realize that you also witnessed the, moment,

(02:28:27):
right that could be a reason, WHY i don't, know
kind of look back and think about that, stuff but
definitely something to think. About UNTEL c tech. Lol Port

(02:28:48):
thom's getting at elect the rest of. Us, yeah, yeah you,
know and he doesn't look a day older than he
did in a, video which is awesome and. Amazing as
we got about forty five seconds before we come back,
here let's see being cheeky gee, yeah, god you've been.

(02:29:10):
ON i felt. THAT i felt, that and we have
about thirty seconds left. Here, okay awesome. Information i'll mention

(02:29:47):
that three seconds till we go here.

Speaker 7 (02:29:54):
Or more.

Speaker 1 (02:29:55):
So it was at top of the, hour last thirty
to for the, hour and then this. One, OKAY i
don't know What this system has bugs in it that
every time you fix the, bug it just moves somewhere.
Else so let me fix this, here all, right all, right,

(02:30:20):
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Radio as we get back into talking about ten, ten
we're counting ten of the most legitimate cases OF ufo,
sightings AND i did GET i don't know if we
actually talked About Kurt russell before the, break But Kurt

(02:31:02):
russell essentially number ten that we talked about on the
list with phoenix, lights And Kurt russell was actually one
of the ones that apparently saw it And Para marv
told me here that he actually called it, into call
it into air traffic. Control BUT i, think, okay so

(02:31:26):
that was called, In BUT i don't think that initially
he lined it with the phoenix. LIGHTS i think he
didn't do that until later on in. Life but it's
good to know that he at least called it, in
like a responsible, pilot if you see something weird in the,
sky you should definitely be doing. That jumping into the
next one here that we had on the, List this

(02:31:47):
is also one we, covered but it's still. Right if
you ask fifteen people who know experience OR ufo experiences
and sightings, historical they're probably gonna give you this ONE t,
two which was The rendlesham. Right we just talked about
this two weeks. AGO ufo observed On december twenty four or,

(02:32:11):
six nineteen eighty In England's Rendalstrom force near The Royal
Air Force station Of woodbridge In. Woodbridge after witnessing some unexplained,
lights Several Air force, personnel Including Lieutenant Lieutenant Colonel Charles,
holt decided to head into the woods to get a closer.

(02:32:32):
Look they were expecting to find a plane. Crash, instead
according To halt's, memo they saw a glowing metallic object
then moved at phenomenal speed through the. Forest the next,
day servicemen returned to the site and found triangular shaped
impressions in the, ground broken branches on the, trees and
radiation readings that were ten times the normal background level

(02:32:55):
and twenty ten Retired Lieutenant holt signed and notarized alf
a day that summarized the incident and accused THE us
And england of a cover. Up while some believe it
was a hoax or Falling soviet, satellite others think this
was a LEGITIMATE ufo. Sighting and as we talked a
couple of weeks ago about, that we also brought up

(02:33:16):
the fact that they were exposed to that, radiation got pretty,
sick and the government just just really showed themselves in that,
moment right when you how would you allow us not
just a. Citizen but it's not like there's any. Difference
we're ALL i think equal when it comes to. This
but on top of, that a person who has who

(02:33:39):
was committed to giving putting their life on the line
for their country right and stepped out there and decided
to join a military, service you could then turn around
on that same committed individual and pretend like they weren't
at a site that they were at and didn't cover
them medically for things they were exposed. To, like what

(02:33:59):
kind of country is? That what kind of government is
that they would do that to one of their? Services
all The United states Of. America let me not forget
as there are so many other cases of them doing
something very. Similar ah, yeah, frustrated frustrated with the greatest
country On. Earth, Right so here we, go coming back

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to the next. One, Here this is one we did not.
Cover AND i have mixed feelings about this one, here,
right this is ONE i think is definitely in the
right place on THE ufo. List some people think it's.
Explainable but here we. Go it's The Cash landrum And

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i've talked about this for, years, Right i'll read this
to you. Here apparently this family was exposed to this.
Craft they were going down the. Road diamond shaped craft
had fire coming out the bottom of. It they they
were exposed to radiation burns or some sort of. Burns

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this is how the story. Goes december twenty, ninth nineteen
Eighty Betty, Cash Vicky, landrum And Kobe landrum saw twenty
three unidentified helicopters surrounding a huge diamond shaped object that
was hovering above the. Trees the object emitted such tremendous

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heat that the outside of the car was painful to,
touch and a handprint was seared into the softened vinyl. Interior.
Wow A dayton police officer Detective Lamar walker and his
wife also claimed to have seen helicopters near the same.
Area after the, incident the group suffered from, vomiting, diarrhea

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and terrible burning. Sensations Betty cash developed painful blister on her,
skin lost clumps of, hair and was unable to. WALK
a radiologist examined the group and concluded that they were
all suffering from secondary damage from ionizing. Radiation they sued

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THE us government for twenty, million but the case was
dismissed in nineteen eighty. Six some people still believe that
the government covered up its involvement in the. Incident this
is WHAT i feel about, This so The cashlandrum, INCIDENT
a lot of people feel like that this was government.

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CRAFT i don't know THAT i go that way with.
It and here's the reason. Why because when you listen
to the argument of it being government, craft just the
fact that it was being escorted is what people will
say by all these military, helicopters is that the fact
that it was actually emitting, flames and a lot of

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people are automatically feeling, like if it's emitting, flames then
it's likely something that is built by. MAN i don't
necessarily feel that. WAY i don't necessarily feel that because
you see fire and not anti gravitics that this is
not that this is something From. Earth fire wasn't created On.

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Earth fire as a use for whatever you want to
use it, for isn't going to, be you, know solely
restricted To. Earth it's likely that with fire being one
of the early things that we discovered as human, beings
would be the one of the early things other things

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ended up you, know discovering as, well early on in their.
Existence so the same fire only means us is just
crazy and ridiculous just on the face of. It there's
no way to sit there and say that In Magna.
Fashio but for a lot of, people that's the only
reason why they lean into or the main reason why
they lean in to this being not extraterrest real and

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then man. Made AND i don't think that's. Enough so for,
ME i feel like this was A. Ufo you, know
when we're thinking about modern discernible means of, propulsion think
of what it would. Take it would take Whatever Elon
musk has developed today FOR, SpaceX for the reentry, phase,

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rockets for the. Stability if you've ever seen one of
those things. Land it has multiple levers and you, know
things that have to be moved around on it to
keep balanced and to just do all these sort of
things to ensure that it lands back on the platform
in an upright. Position so that's why the Cash landsron

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incident never really landed for, me because it's, like, okay
so they were able to sustain control flight in an
upright sort of, mannerism and it didn't tip. Over it
didn't do any of these things. Right and then why
would they have it right where you have, civilians where

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you could do this easily in the. Desert the gist
isn't enough there for. Me the military helicopters are gonna come,
period whether it's something we made or something that came
from outside the. ATMOSPHERES i think the military copters are
gonna be there. Regardless so with that being, SAID i
don't think you can just say as man made because

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of the. FLAMES i think that could easily be some
sort of exterrestrial that still uses flame for, propulsion or
at least maybe one stage of. Propulsion as aslanis And
war talks about the, craft he saw kind of raised itself,
up kind of paused for a moment before it then shot.

(02:39:48):
Off so maybe there's different stages of levels of things
that they use in their. Ships is not just, one you,
know the anti gravitic isn't the thing that's gonna shoot you,
Off or it's they gotta activate anti gravidicts, first then
they activate their propulsion method, afterwards or something along those,
lines if you understand What i'm. Saying but to get

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further down the list, here because we can talk about
that all, Night i'm. Sure the next one we have
is The BELGIAN ufo. Wave we talked about this one
a couple of weeks. Ago Between november nineteen eighty nine And,
december Or i'm, Sorry november nineteen eighty nine And april

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of nineteen, ninety thousands of people reportedly witnessed triangular UFOs
flying over various parts Of belgium on multiple. Occasions The
belgian officials even tracked these objects using radar during the
evening Of march, thirtieth nineteen ninety and estimated thirteen, thousand

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five hundred people watched as the UFOs thirteen, thousand five
hundred People. Wow people watched as the UFOs were chased
by two f Sixteens over the course of an, hour
the TWO f sixteens made nine attempts to intercept the
UFOs and were able to make a radar lock with their.

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Targets during one of the radar, locks THE ufo accelerated
from one hundred and fifty miles per hour to over
eleven hundred miles per hour while changing altitude from nine
thousand feet to five thousand feet in a matter of.
Seconds after his, Retirement Major General wilfred De brauer wrote

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in a statement that, quote The BELGIAN ufo wave was
exceptional and The Air force could not identify the, nature
origin and intentions of reported. Phenomena The belgian objects have
still never been, explained and really quickly to add to,
THAT i THINK i said this as, well but we
can't ignore waves like. THAT i think when waves happened like,

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that they're trying to talk to. It they're trying to say.
Something they're trying to get someone's, attention to make we
open up. Conversation they're trying to do. Something it's evident
when those waves. Hit we just had A New jersey drone, wave,
right we had A BELGIAN ufo. Wave there's waves that
have gone over history and WE i think we walk

(02:42:15):
away from these waves not getting the message or not
doing that interaction thing that whatever they're expecting for us to.
DO i don't think we're doing that unless those government
the governments are doing that behind the. Scenes they're taking
that step to make the communication and we just don't
know about. It BUT i think every example of a
wave where so many thousands of people or hundreds of

(02:42:37):
people see something and they know we see, it that
that's an actual attempt to reach out to. Humanity and
so if we haven't taken advantage of those, moments we
need to be mindful to maybe do so next. Time
perfect we had the chance In New, jersey just hold
out some. Signs maybe that's what they're waiting. FOR i don't,
know BUT i think these waves definitely represent them trying

(02:43:01):
to reach. Out so next one on the list was
this is The ALDERNEY ufo sighting with these objects. Here
Captain Ray bauer was flying a routine forty five minute
flight From, Southampton, england On april twenty, third two thousand and,
seven when he and his passengers saw two UFOs as

(02:43:22):
they Approached. Alderney The Jersey Airport radar control recorded the
two large yellow cigar shaped objects for over fifty five.
Minutes another pilot flying a plane Near sark also confirmed
the presence and location of these mysterious. CRAFT Bbc Radio

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guernsey also reported that visitors in a hotel And sark
had noticed and inquired about the two, big bright yellow
objects in the. Sky during an address to THE Us
National Press club On november, twelve two thousand and, Seven Captain,
Bauer bauer said The British Civil Aviation authority knew within

(02:44:04):
twenty minutes of the sighting what was seen and described
in the first flight log in facts directly to RELEVANT caa.
Office despite the pilot's openness about the, incident the cooperation
of the, military and countless eyewitness reports from passengers and
people on the, ground the incident remains a complete, mystery, right, crazy.

(02:44:29):
Crazy when you start looking at these things in one
like we could talk about one, sighting it's, like, wow
that was, crazy that's, amazing then later on talk about another.
Siding when you talk about them in one sitting and
you digest all of them at, once it's. Overwhelming it's,
overwhelming the amount Of it's, like why isn't this already?

(02:44:51):
Known because look at all, this, right and that's kind
of where we're not even halfway through the. List let's
continue to hurry up and push through here next. ONE
i guess it was still. Compelling i'm just gonna talk
about in case you missed the first, Show chicago O'Hare International.
Airport On november, seven two thousand and, six a metallic
saucer shaped crab was seen hovering the O'Hare International airport In.

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Chicago John hilkovich from The Chicago tribune reportedly said the
disc was visible for approximately two minutes and was seen
by close to a DOZEN us airline, employees ranging from
pilots to. Supervisors the object apparently shot straight up and
card a visible circular hole through the. Clouds The Federal
Aviation administration initially claimed that they didn't have any information

(02:45:34):
about the, sighting like the drones In New. Jersey The
Chicago tribune then filed A freedom Of information at, request
which covered recorded conversations concerning THE. Ufo THE faa suggested
that the sighting was a result of a weather phenomena
called the whole punch, cloud but the temperatures that day
make this explanation. Impossible then THE fa said that airport

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LIGHTS faa air when THE faa said that airport lights
were responsible for the, sighting but the lights hadn't been
turned on. Yet Wow, wow all, right moving. Now this
is The japanese flight from nineteen eighty THE jl. SITE

(02:46:18):
i forgot what the number Is THE jl flight from
nineteen eighty. Six On november, eighteenth nineteen eighty, six A
Japanese bowing seventy forty seven cargo aircraft was followed for
nearly an hour by unidentified flying. Object the crew witness
two objects flying over Eastern. Alaska as the two objects
got closer to the, plane the cabin was lit up

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and filled with the strange. Heat as these two objects flew,
away a much, larger dish shaped craft emerged from the
darkness and started to follow the seven forty. Seven Captain
taruchi Contacted Anchorage Air Traffic control and requested a change of.
Course THE ufo followed the plane despite any of the
captain's maneuvers of the, data including ground. Radar the capture

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of that identified craft was collected and presented at a
meeting with THE fbi AND. Cia after reviewing all of the,
material the government officials decided that this was the first
radar recording of A. Ufo, however they insist that their
meeting never took. Place right we got That WESTALL ufo

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one of my. Favorites around eleven am On april, sixth
nineteen sixty, six an unexplained flying object flew Around Westall
High school In, Melbourne. Australia more than two hundred students
and several teachers watched as THE ufo descended into a nearby.
Field eyewitnesses watched the craft hovering around the school for
proximately twenty. Minutes the object was described as being a

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gray saucer shaped object that was about twice the size
of a family. Car there were no, commercial, private Or
Royal Australian Air force planes in the area at the.
Time it was suggested that the weather balloon may have
been responsible for the, confusion BUT I wouldness has quickly
dismissed the. Explanation The australian skeptics suggested that the object
was an experimental military, craft similar to the nylon target

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drones that were towed away BY ouraaf planes at the,
time but The Air force reported that they are not
in the airspace at that time of any, incident so
Air force, again WHICH i think we should do a
show around Air force BECAUSE i think they have a
lot to tell to this story that they just haven't

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done and anytime they have, intervened it's always it isn't.
UFOs right here we, go try to get through this.
One Shag HARBOR ufo to Shack HARBOR ufo Is canada's
equivalent to The ROSWELL Ufo United. States In october, fourth
nineteen sixty, seven unidentified object crash into the water near

(02:48:54):
the tiny fishing village Of Shag, Harbor, Nova. Scotia at
least eleven people watched. This the pack headed towards. Harbor
multiple witnesses heard a whistling sound and allowed bang as
it crashed into the. Water shortly, Afterward Lorie wickens and
four of his friends contacted The Royal Canadian Mounted police
after they spotted a large object floating in The Atlantic

(02:49:15):
ocean about a thousand feet from. Shore THE, rcnp The
Royal Canadian navy And Royal Canadian Air force became involved
in an unsuccessful recovery. Effort the investigation revealed that all,
commercial private and military craft along The Eastern seaborg were
accounted for The navy can comb the seafloor of The
gulf Of maine but found no trace of the. Object

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and then the final one we can squeeze in here
is A Husband VALLEY ufo. Wave between nineteen eighty two
and nineteen eighty, six around five thousand eye witnesses reported
seeing A v shaped reported SEEING v shaped UFOs we
multi coolored lights flying on The Hudson, valley just one
hour north Of New York. City the first sighting was

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made On New Year's eve nineteen eighty two by a
retired police officer In, Kent New. York the former officer
initially thought that he was observing an. Airplane when the
craft passed above his, home he realized that it was
moving too, far too slowly and quietly to be an.
Airplane while most of the eyewitnesses described as slow MOVING
v SHAPED, ufo others reported saying that object appeared to

(02:50:23):
be circular and capable of moving at fantastic speeds or
disappearing all. Together during one, signing THE ufo hovered about
thirty feet above The Indian Point Nuclear plant security supervisor
was considering shooting the craft down before it disappeared from.
Sight despite eyewitness reports and photographic. Evidence the phenomenon was

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never properly, explained and my frustration with that is what
Happens we ended up adding the drone situation into that,
conversation and it's, like we will continue adding things to
that list of what could have, been what should have,
been and What we never took a moment to sit

(02:51:06):
back and figure out what it was right because AND
i think once again it's because of how human beings
handled the new. Cycles, right we were focused on this,
thing it's big, news and then as soon as someone
pushes a new news story, along then mall we moved
on to. That it's to say with social, MEDIA i
mean with, yeah social, media things that are, trending trending

(02:51:29):
topics on social, media and it's we're always quickly moving
on to the next to where when we're faced with
disclosure or a moment that could be. Considered As i've said,
before we talked about five times when there may have
been actual contact attempted contact by these things out, there

(02:51:51):
and what are we doing with? It have in any
of those, incidents did we step up to the plate
as humanity and try to make the contact or complete
the contact like how many incidents can we say we've
had of? Those if you look, historically how many times
have we in the utiful, community aside from like see
five things that we do solely within our, community when

(02:52:12):
was that global effort to step out and actually make that.
Contact maybe that's the show that we'll get into and
maybe we'll do it with the guests that we had.
Tonight Julius simms that we want to definitely thank her
for coming on in tonight being as awesome as she
was on such short. Notice that that is always. Great
shout out To Mark eddie as. Well we also want

(02:52:33):
to shout out the man that you hear right here right.
Now it's the Rom Bumba. Football he is demand the
rock in and out of every show and reminds us
to never say never, again because, yes the phenomena is
very very, real as we talked about, earlier which means
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not be Here. SATURDAY i don't. KNOW i, said it's
totally a family. Thing if and family is. First if
it wasn't, FAMILY i would be right here with. You
so just understand. That and with that being, Said i'm
gonna go ahead and get ready to shut this thing
down once again each and every. Show we want. Retribution
they're holding these. Secrets they've been doing it for so.

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Long it's we're fed. Up we're tired of. It we're
tired of the blatant cover ups in our face like what's.
Currently we're just tired of it. All and so with
that being, said we want. Retribution that's how we'll get
up out of here once again. Tonight, GUYS i will
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