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August 12, 2025 • 173 mins
Dick Landon is a former scientific researcher who now spends his time studying the high strangeness in life. He's an award winning author with new book out called 2blackop. It discusses the important topic of 'catastrophic disclosure'. Then in hour two, Dick got into astral travel and the importance of trying to leave one's body for the consciousness journey we're all capable of.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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He's got a brand new book out called Two Black
Op Fears of Catastrophic Disclosure. We're going to learn about that.
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We are going to have an amazing show for you
tonight as author researcher Dick Lnden is here to talk

(03:00):
all about astral projection, astral travel and of course we'll
get into some disclosure as well. Should it be catastrophic,
I don't know. Then in our number three swamp Dweller
is going to join us for another spooky story. After that,
Little Timmy James will be at his home studio for

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the UFO Report. So let's get right to it, shall we.
Dick Landon is an award winning science fiction writer and
consciousness explorer who bridges the worlds of technology and metaphysics.
Born and raised in Upstate New York, Dick earned his
bachelor's in mechanical engineering from the University of California, Santa
Barbara before building a diverse career spanning the aircraft and

(03:42):
software patent industries. His creative talents have garnered significant recognition
with seven prestigious writing awards for his science fiction screenplays.
These works delve into fascinating realms including paranormal phenomena, out
of body experiences, UFOs, neurotechnology, government conspiracies at altered states

(04:03):
of consciousness. Currently, Dick is channeling his imagination and expertise
into a science fiction novel that continues to explore these
compelling themes that He's got a brand new book out
to black op Fears of Catastrophic Disclosure. We're going to
get into that and more tonight. Let's bring him on
in dick landon. Welcome to spaced Out Radio for the

(04:24):
first time. My friend, how you doing.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Thank you very much. It's great to be here. And
there's no really swag here.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh good good.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I also I also did my twenty five hundred pushups.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Excellent, So you're jacked up for tonight's show as well.
That is absolutely amazing, Dick. Going from a scientific background,
where a lot of scientists that I know, I mean
they've always liked Doctor Who, They've always liked, you know,
Star Trek, Star Wars, the interested space has always been there.
Is that how you kind of got into all of

(04:59):
this is because as a child you really enjoyed what
science fiction offered.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh yeah, I mean I read that was my favorite
and only theme book I would. I just read science
fiction as probably from junior high school, and I wish
I could remember all the books I read now and
all the titles and all the authors, But it was

(05:28):
inspirational for me. I always was just like my friends.
We were kind of geeks in that way. And as
far as as far as other things, other books I
do really that were really rememberable to me are the
Carlos Castaneda set of books, which had to do mostly

(05:50):
with spiritualism and sorcery. I suppose you could say even
though I never considered it that, I always considered it
as just altered states. There was a little payoute buttons
and some you know, other mystical chemicals. But in the
end I remember Carlos experimenting and Don Juan, his teacher,

(06:18):
with these drugs, but they were really only keys. They
were only half. They'd only get you to open the
door you had to go through, and in the end
they weren't using them at all. In the series. It
was a very fascinating series of books for me because
I used them to basically expand my mind. Starting at

(06:40):
a very early age.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
As you kind of developed and started learning about the
UFO subject, what really kind of tickled your fancy about it?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
You know, Richard, I'm not Richard Gear doctor gear Greer.
He has stated that it's the most extraordinary cover up
because for decades now we have our government as a

(07:15):
whole I don't think has been very honest with any
of us, and the way doctor Greer speaks about it,
I agree one hundred percent that it's probably one of
the most profound cover ups. I think last time I
heard some of his speaking, he mentioned that it could

(07:37):
be pushing the black operations to cover it up, and
the reverse engineering was probably totaling more than twenty trillion
dollars by this at this point, and these are all
hidden funds, and just that fact alone has to make

(07:57):
the average American think about what is their government doing
and why? And that was why I wrote this book.
I mean, the disclosure that people are just getting interested
in ever since David Grush came out and actually said

(08:20):
on camera in front of our Congress people that he
not himself, but he was very familiar with the people
who had hands on experience with both the craft, the
reverse engineering, and actually the aliens themselves. So to not

(08:42):
be interested in this subject, you'd have to be dead,
That's what I would That's the way I would put it.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Dick, are you surprised that still so many of your
scientific brethren and sisters are so jaded about this UFO topic.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It goes along with it goes along with with doctor
Greer and people like Chris Bleso and and Ray Hernandez
are mostly interested in and that That's what I'm always
interested in. And that is the what is consciousness? You know,
the hard science problem, how deep does it go into

(09:24):
our reality that we are in right now? And then
of course and their discoveries with quantum mechanics and string theory,
the idea of multiple realms multiple dimensions is well established

(09:45):
within the quantum area ever since Max Blank came out
and said that consciousness, that matter is derived from consciousness.
And I do believe that too. When I I mean
I've experienced I've experienced it. I when I when I've

(10:06):
traveled outside of my body. Uh. The distinction and in
lower levels where you take a look at your surroundings,
they're alive. There's an energy there's especially in the in
anything moving or or that is alive on this on

(10:30):
this level level of reality, like the trees. The trees
were always glowing bright and shiny and flashing their leaves
around almost like in response to me looking at them.
They would almost be trying to talk to me with
their flashing and their their movement when I was traveling

(10:51):
outside my body. So the energy, uh, and the idea
that now as well establage about some fundamentals ever since
in nineteen ten Paris accord or I should say Expo
with Max Blank actually telling all the world this is

(11:16):
two hundred and twenty years ago or whatever, not now
one hundred and twenty years ago, you know, telling the world. Look,
there's a lot more than just us, and there's a
lot there's a lot behind matter and that that is
all consciousness. So the idea that scientists might be stalling

(11:45):
or dragging their feeat or not admitting the idea and
the extent to which it is controlling this life and
our our lives complete lately and influencing everything around us.

(12:05):
And and to lack the the certitude, to lack the
moral ethics really to just like our politicians are not
they lack very little moral ethics in this department. Because
like Ray Hernandez and Chris Blezzo and doctor Greer and myself,

(12:32):
these things extend into all areas of the paranormal. The
the there is is such a fearful thing. I think
for leadership, both academically and at the government level, of
losing power, of losing the idea that there there is

(12:54):
so much more to this reality which in that pool, well,
that this center of all that almost you'd have to
look at advanced beings that have propagated across the universe.
I mean the numbers. It's it's clear that we're not

(13:17):
alone and probably never have been even on Earth. When
I say that, but their influence here, whatever they are doing,
either they're in a hybrid form or directly influencing governments

(13:40):
and maybe scientists. I know on a conscious level, there
is a increase of overall consciousness in the world. I
think COVID pushed everybody kind of asleep, and then they
went into their their dreams more and they maybe looked

(14:00):
at their lives closer. You know, there's nothing like a
catastrophe to make you look at your life closely. So
the scientists are not and the politicians are not doing
their due diligence in this area. There's no doubt about it.

(14:23):
And in the end, and I'll have to say, doctor
Greer is one hundred percent correct when he says that
these entities, these beings that travel light years beyond our comprehension,
have complete control over a higher consciousness, a higher a

(14:48):
manifestation of that consciousness directly, and they're not here to
harm us. They are observing us. They are worried about
nuclear weapons, they're worried about some of our stupid things
we do, and if the if we could have true leadership.

(15:10):
Nothing came out of the David Grush meeting. It was
very disappointing. They were supposed to meet in a skiff,
but then of course there David Grush was pulled his
he was pulled his clearances to even talk in private
to the very interested congressman, which was on both sides
of the aisle. It's a it's a travesty really, the

(15:35):
whole idea that scientists and politicians and educators too, and
the media, I don't get me started on that. They're
they're so like in the pocket of whatever. There's a
good chance the media and maybe these other leaders of
our country are in the pocket of something. And I

(15:56):
don't want to I don't want to guess at that.
But and when I say in the pocket, I don't
mean bribery, I mean just straight out intimidation. That would
be my guess.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Right, right, how do you tie out of body experiences
and the consciousness phenomena to UFOs Well.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I could give you some examples, my own personal ones,
and I could also give you examples of really some
other explorers of the astral dimensions and multiple dimensions that
science has already established through quantum mechanics. There's at least

(16:43):
eleven realms. I'll just call them realms within our universe.
You can call them parallel dimensions, you can think of
them that way, but you can also think of them
as higher realms, realms that we can't actuate. You we

(17:04):
can't get up to where let's just call you know,
this a three D. And then there's a fourth dimension
in the fifth dimension where there's no time or space,
and the advanced beings are more than likely at least
at those areas and higher almost up to the angelic

(17:26):
realms for sure, and to contact them out the body
is a real good way. I don't This is what
CE five does with doctor Greer. They get together and
I talk to you about the importance of meditation in

(17:47):
our last podcast, and that's what doctor Greer. He gets.
He has a training perspective for his people that he
gathers at night under the skies and they they basically
meditate and follow a procedure to call call ets in

(18:12):
and then and Chris Blezzo, they've had headgear on him.
They can't explain it. He goes into a Gammel level
of consciousness and they come right in. So and and
as far as cover ups and theories, Chris was Chris

(18:33):
was pointing out that the UH entities that are responding
to his group and his callings are very dynamic. They
flash up, they flash big, they disappear. They're actually transdimensional.
There's no doubt about it. And Chris was explaining that

(18:57):
we had a drone at activity which was right after
a certain predictive thing that they had told him. I
don't I don't want to get Chris's statement wrong, but
he said the drone activity, which doctor Greer believes is
mostly you know, our own United our own military and

(19:24):
dark operations to obuscate the real cover up. Because Chris
had stated and I had also heard that people had
seen a lot of orbs. Now orbs are Chris's thing,
and both ray And and doctor Greer are predominantly interested

(19:49):
in interdimensionals. If you think about it, how do you
get a solid ship, you know, a million light years
away here and then crash and get shot down? What
is that? There's so many there's so there's so many
obfuscations by the government. It's disgusting actually. So yeah, the

(20:14):
alien thing I think is very center to consciousness and
to obe the ob access another great story. I don't
know if we have time for it.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
We've got about four minutes.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
We got some time, Okay, Well I can do that.
I had interviewed uh a Vincent Field, and he's a
very experienced out of the body explorer. In the beginning,
he would, like a lot of people, feel a lot
of feel as though there was a Egregor, some archetype

(20:52):
showing up in his hypnogotic state between sleep and wakefulness.
And it turned out that the Grays were like just
waiting for him, and he would just snap back into
his body with fear in the beginning, and then he
just got used to them and they actually you know,
he went along with him, and which they say, if

(21:12):
you you want to do you want to kind of
give in to the experience, if you want to want
it to continue. So he went onto their ship and
they were probing them and so forth and so on
and and they, uh. He finally started communicate, getting with

(21:34):
them to you know, through telepathy, and said why why
am I here? Why are you interested in me? And
what are you doing? And and the story it's not
a story. This happened object Vincent, and uh. They they said, well,
we want to know how you're accessing higher dimensions. We

(21:58):
can't do that, and we would like to learn what
you do and what we need to do to go higher,
you know, from their fifth dimension where they are wherever
the grays you know, are hanging. Now that's not to

(22:18):
say there's no way they're not already getting there one
way or another. My true belief is the higher energy
trans interdimensionals are traveling purely by consciousness, but they're also
carrying along biological entities with them that can transmutate into

(22:40):
three D. When you're in the astral you're not a
floaty little ghost. You know, you you have everything solid.
It's another world that's solid and more real than this world.
I know that's hard to swallow for most people listening

(23:01):
to this podcast, but that's just the way it is.
You get to a certain level and it's you know,
it's just like here, but just amazing. There is a
lot more creativity when you get higher in the higher realms,
and a lot more thought projection works the higher you go.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Excuse we got about a minute ago here before we
have to go to break at the bottom of the hour.
Author Dick Landon is our guest tonight on spaced Out Radio.
The consciousness aspect is so amazing because it's really difficult
to describe to somebody who doesn't understand this process. How

(23:43):
give me a one minute answer on how to describe consciousness.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, the first time you escape your body, and I
mean escape it consciously with intention, it is probably the
most one of the most profound things. It is. It's
the most profound thing that's ever happened to me the
first time I did it, you know, consciously trying to
do it. So when you do that, you realize all

(24:15):
of you goes there's no difference, You're not different. Well,
I should qualify it a little bit. I'm like a
five year old when I get out there. I'm a
little innocent. I'm a little emotional.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, hold that thought. Hold that thought. We're going to
step out for a quick break here. Author Dick Landon
is our guest tonight. He's got a brand new book
out called Two Black Op Fears of Catastrophic Disclosure. We're
going to get into that and astral travel next on
Space Out Radio. Stay tuned. Everybody, All right, we are clear,

(25:12):
there we go. All right, see who's joined us? Lord
star Fox, welcome to us, to our chat. Elegant Birch,
welcome to us to our chat, and ever sore. Nice
to see you. Questions will come in hour two, everybody,

(25:37):
hour two, Davy, what's happening? Good to have you back.
And dirty filth down there. He'll give us a thumbs
up because he likes us that way. Are you in California?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Dick, Yeah, yeah, Santa Cruz?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Oh nice, Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
It's every place in the rest of the world and
in the United States. Is you know ninety plus ninety
percent humidity?

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Rarely humidity where I am?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, you're up in the north. Oh yeah, it's of no,
north of Vancouver.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
About five and a half six hours north east of Vancouver.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Have you ever seen a bigfoot? Yes, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I've seen three of them.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah. People, uh, people draw the line sometimes at bigfoot,
you know, as far as believability, but they're just a
trance dimensional. They're here on vacation. I love they're here
just experiencing earth.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
You know, my brother and friend Eugene Braxton, how are you,
my buddy, much love for you, my friend leach him,
how you doing? Yeah? I've been a huge fan of

(27:26):
Eugene's for about eight years.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
He's the sweetest guy. I mean, just just a real gentleman.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Have you got to meet him personally yet? Because I
have not.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, I haven't. Nope, m M.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I love them. He loved the man. He's so smart.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Oh yeah, he's the mystic. He's the American mystic.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Blue Cruise. How are you?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I think he's writing another book.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I hope so.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Out his first book. He signed it for me I have.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I have to have my brain on full maximum power
to understand with what he's saying, because he's just so brilliant.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
I would say, you're right there is. He doesn't hold
anything back.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
He's so giving all his ideas.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Right, we've got about two minutes.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
So did you have a tough day today, Dave?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I always have a tough day every day. That's okay.
The weekend is just around the corner. I know we're
only on Monday, but the weekend is just around the corner.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
How about you? Have you seen UFO? S Dave?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Oh yeah, I'm a multiple experiencer.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah yeah, you scored ninety five on Ray Hernandez tests.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Did you see my results?

Speaker 3 (29:40):
You told me last time.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, it was crazy. I'm just like, oh, I'll just
check that one. Oh, I'll check that one. Gizmo. How
are you?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
You know what's crazy? How Ray just out of the blue.
You know, he had a sick dog and all of
a sudden there's a UFO over his house. I'm not
sure how that's sorry exactly when, but he you know,
he's a scientist and bam, it hits you all at once.

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(31:34):
Here we Go author Dick Langdon. He has a new
book out to black op Fears of Catastrophic Disclosure. We're
talking a little bit of UFOs right now, but I
promise we will get into astro travel and projection as well. Dick,
thank you so much for being here. Let me get

(31:55):
you back on here. There we go, There we go,
My bad, there, my bad. Thank you much. It's great
to be here. Dave always.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Dick.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
There is a large, large contingent of the government assets
in the UFO world that claim that catastrophic disclosure. Nobody
wants it. It's not the way to go. It's bad
for the world, bad for the economy, bad for the aliens,
and more importantly, bad for the humans. You've just written

(32:26):
a book. I know it's science fiction, but you've written
a book about two black op fears of catastrophic disclosure,
which people could get on Amazon right now. What is
your thoughts on catastrophic disclosure? But first tell our listeners
what it is.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
I think it's probably a lot of leaders around the
world think of it as the most hideous thing that
could ever happen to them. They seriously fear it, probably
more than anything because of their decades of cover up.

(33:06):
First of all, you know, they'd have to you know,
their little psyches would have to be crushed if it
if it was revealed to all of the Earth, to
everyone on Earth, that we weren't alone and they're not
here to cut out our livers, you know. And there

(33:30):
it's a very and that's and that's why I talk
about it in the book so much about consciousness kind
of falls into it naturally because they're you know you,
you know where they tell you if you watch so
much news that you'll be depressed and you know, your
whole Basically, it's just it's like a psychic vampire, you know,

(33:59):
taking all your energy. And so it's the most terrible
thing about it is that they aren't They aren't interested
in advancing human humanity at all. They want to control humanity.
They want to control the resources. They want everybody to

(34:21):
buy things, they want everybody to go to Walmart's and Target,
and they want everybody to be at each other's throats
one way or another, it seems, and that never goes away.
I don't know how we get there. I'll have to
say that a lot of people out there, have you

(34:48):
heard of the hundred monkey?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
No, tell me about that.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, A career believes in it, strictly you he believes,
and I too. And I guess it's a phenomenon that
happened in some small islands in the South Seas where
I guess they figured about one hundred of the monkeys
out of thousands on the island. You know, it was

(35:13):
just a monkey island and small island, and they had
to break the coconuts. So the idea is that the
hundredth monkey smashed the coconut with a rock as a tool.
And you everybody's probably seen monkeys now they use tools

(35:35):
all the time. But this was this was something that
was studied by our biologists and so forth and so
on at the turn of the century, and they discovered
that when these monkeys were using the stones for tools,
it was a matter of almost instantaneously. Other biologists on

(35:58):
other islands in the South Seas where they have these
monkey populations and the coconuts that they had to eat,
we're all using rocks within a very short period to
open the coconuts. And the way doctor Greer expresses it,

(36:22):
he says that we're on a curve, and the curve
is pretty steep. Now in the less, I want to say,
since COVID is really steep and people are getting to
a point, I'm not saying they're all psychic or becoming psychic,

(36:43):
but they are raising their consciousness enough through meditation mostly
and different you know, bineoil, binaural beats or HEMI sank
out of the Monroe Institute and the subject of raising
your vibration level, your energy level, your your etheric body.

(37:07):
You know, these kind of subjects what five years ago
probably people would you know, tune it out right away.
But the idea that these things exist and you're able
to raise your level of consciousness or awareness, or your perception,
your abilities, your overall brain neuroplasticity to a level where

(37:38):
parts of your brain are talking to other parts of
the brain they don't usually talk to, and you might
develop some psychic abilities after that, you know, at some point,
definitely if you're out of your body to a longer extent.
And many times mysynchronicities like Dejovu, like you wanted to

(38:00):
talk to maybe about this this time around, are increasing.
So what Greer has uh theorized that it's like a
hundredth monkey that and this is this might be just
something that you know, the dark the dark ops out
there are really fearing because this might be Uh, you know,

(38:23):
they're so jealous of doctor Greer and his ability with
THEE five people to call down. Uh you know, I'm
sure they're infiltrated with gear Career his work, and I'm
glad he's still walking the earth. Really, it's there's so
much jealousy that that you could actually communicate with a
higher level being like this, and the government at the

(38:46):
same times covering it up, covering up, hiding. Uh, they're
so scared, so catastrophic disclosure is the point at which
they can't. I'm not talking about you know, the saucer's
landing on the White House lawn. But Greer is saying
that there might be a point where, uh, these people

(39:09):
can travel, These beings can travel hundreds of billions and
millions of light years. And here they are looking looking
at us. They're they're very they're very caring, and they're
looking over us and they're waiting for the hundredth monkey,
you know, to drop drop the stone on the coconut
for us. And when that happens, we could have a

(39:32):
catastrophic in terms of you know, the government and those
people in power that don't want to let go of
it and have been hiding this for so long. Uh,
it's catastrophic to them, but it would be a complete
renaissance for mankind. Just think of it for a moment, Dave.

(39:54):
Uh we're talking now. Greer kind of is he put
a number to it, which I really I'm fascinating when
you know someone of that retribute puts a number to it.
But think of, uh, a civilization that is a thousand
years advanced from ours minimum, you know, minimum, what they

(40:20):
could help us with, what they could show us, you know, Uh,
doctor Greer, for example, mentions, uh, you know free energy,
which you know there's been some I think. You know,
being an engineer, you know you hear rumors earth And

(40:41):
I was in the patent business too that ah. You know,
some of these patents just disappear, some of some of
these advanced patents because of these scientists, these independent minds.
I mean Edison used to fall asleep in a chair
holding two bearings and wait until he was in a

(41:02):
hypnogotic state and the balls would hit the ground and
he would he would zero in on exactly what he
was thinking at that moment. So inventors know about this
altered consciousness, this higher states, and with these patents, I
think they're getting buried.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Dave, what do you think, Oh, I think they are too.
I mean, look, there are so many people who have
tried to tie this together that there is something there,
but I think mainstream science blocks it by using it
as you know, pseudo science. I think the government blocks
it because they don't want people to know what they
already have. And I think that if people really tried

(41:41):
to figure out what the government was hiding, especially when
it comes to UFOs, we would be looking at something
catastrophic because they would be called out on the secrets
they keep. They're not supposed to be secret keepers, yet
here we are.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, I wrote this book and it brings in all
this science day. If I bring in all the consciousness,
I bring in out of body experiences. But the idea
behind my book was to write a fiction that kind
of mimics, you know, the situation that we're talking about

(42:22):
right now, and it's I think people will really enjoy
reading it because they might realize the possibilities of consciousness
and how e T could help us in that manner.
The hiding, the reverse engineering that's going on, the intimidation

(42:49):
that's going on, it's this should all be corrected there.
And supposedly we live in the moment, open freedom loving
country in the world, and I don't know the policies.
I think France their policies are a little more open

(43:10):
about disclosure. Israel might be too. They they've had a
couple officials, you know, without too much flak, come out
and say, yeah, we've we've been filming these guys. But
it'd be nice to it'd be nice for them to
all come out and say we're gonna stop this game

(43:31):
and before catastrophic disclosure. The catastrophic disclosure. I mean, it's
not like I said, it's only going to be catastrophic
to those people that are lying about all this and
the ones that think they have the secret reverse engineered

(43:55):
tools that will either what their endgame is. The endgame
is scary, Dave. I mean, what would what would the
endgame be for the government and the leaders of the
world be planning? What is it? I want to hear

(44:16):
what you think.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I think it's all control. I really do think that
it's full control of what people think, what people can do.
And I realize that is an easy answer, Dick, because
everything you know, I mean, the president burps the wrong way, Well,
that's because they're trying to take control, you know what
I'm saying. I mean, everything seems to garner some sort

(44:44):
of government control and regulation these days, especially up here
in Canada where I am, and it's just you get
to the point where you get numb to it. You
just tune it out. And when it comes to this subject,
I think what they're trying to control is the secret.
There's a lot of secrets going on since Roswell, and

(45:04):
probably before Roswell, I think was the turning point because
they finally had some ability to do something about it
and to hide it rather than you know, bring in
the cavalry on their horses and buggies. You know, I
think that's the dangerous part is we don't know what

(45:25):
they're trying to cover up. We don't know their technology,
we don't know what they are providing for themselves which
could help out humanity. I mean, I'm not a tree
hugger by any sense of the word, but I am
about pro people and I would like to see some
more of that. I just don't know if they have

(45:45):
the ability to do so with such a strong military
industrial complex.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, it's sadly, it's all about the money. So like
you know, in the end, it's about the money and
the power. And you know, I'm hoping that we have
some people in Congress or someplace in the world that
could raise because if they did something like that, if
they were to say, Okay, here's kind of some stuff

(46:16):
we've done and we're sorry, but we couldn't help ourselves.
You know, we made these alliances. You know, these alliances
could be with I'm not saying all the aliens are
like angels or anything. There's they could be. Like in

(46:37):
my fiction book, I wrote about this alliance between years
ago between our government and some reptilians. For example. I
use reptilians because they got a bad rap and I'm
sure they have good reptilians and bad reptilians, just like people.
But so the idea to open up the door, you know,

(47:04):
just give it a crack and start to make amends,
I think would be so admirable. And if it was
a coordinated effort from the top or even at one

(47:25):
of the skunk works that maybe have control of some
of these reverse engineered aircraft and so forth, to do it,
maybe even on their own. Somebody has to have the balls,
That's what I'm saying, Dave, to crack the door, and

(47:45):
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I would agree. Somebody has to be in the know.
But nobody seems to know who's in the know, what's
in the know. They just know that somebody is in
the know.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yeah, well what they know is the most important. I
don't care about the somebody and who cracks the door.
The idea is that people have to start trusting their government.
And this is the biggest Like David, like doctor Greer,

(48:22):
this is the biggest most expensive hidden budgetary item in
the United States than anything. Nothing comes close to it, Like,
you know, what could Doge do? They didn't even go
to the DoD you know. So anyway, I'm starting to

(48:42):
whine and complain too much here, Dave.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I think, well, I think, I think in the end,
we all are because we're all a little bit fed up.
You know, we're all a little bit fed up with
with the shell game. And you know, I've seen people
who are in this field for a long time, Dick decades,
who finally said I've had enough, not doing it anymore,
don't want to.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yeah, yeah, Well that's why I wrote my book. I
hope people enjoy it. It's, uh, I think, pretty close
to a scenario that I hope I'm not stepping out
of too many toasts. It's all fiction, guys, and I
made it up, okay, but it's got a lot of
science in the book and a lot of straightforward reasoning.

(49:30):
And you know, I put the I connected the dots,
I think pretty well. And that's why I call it
catastrophic disclosure, because I want people to realize those in
the know, those are the important people. I guess. I mean,
they're the ones that you have to shake their cages.

(49:55):
And not that this book is going to shake anybody's
cage or anything, but it is. Ah, everything is going
to be a consciousness thing. And if we can get
near the hundredth monkey idea, uh, and maybe we won't
need our wimpy, little frightened leaders around the world. Two. Uh,

(50:20):
they're just going to have their pants, you know, they're
butts smacked because E T will just go, you know,
here you go. And you know Blezzo had already said
the orbs were sent right after Sure, I think it
was an Israeli Iranian attacks. It was a while ago,

(50:40):
towards the beginning of the year. They're exchanging missiles and
and that would that didn't ramp up. Uh, maybe the
people in the no said, don't ramp it up because
the orbs are coming. And that's that The orbs were
covered up distinctly by the militarized uh drones. So have

(51:02):
you heard that before, Dave?

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Oh yeah, I believe it was drones. I had. I
had a couple of different insiders tell me that.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yeah. Yeah, But do you think the drones were an
operation by U?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
By uh, yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Now Here's the thing though, were all of them we
don't know, but I think the majority of them more.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, yeah, well I I one hundred percent go with
Blezzo on that. And Blezo said that he was notified
through higher consciousness contacts with uh these light beings in
the orbs that this was going to uh be a

(51:50):
signal for them to show up in mass And I
think we we the military, you know, if you notice,
Iran and Israel did not ramp it up after that
kind of big attack there, so they probably had to
cool their jets, you know, stop so the orbs would

(52:11):
slow down. So catastrophic disclosure fellas out there, think about uh,
think about the right thing to do. Think about your
your children, your consciousness, your I mean your your your
your ability, your responsibility, and your honesty to be a

(52:39):
human being. And stop playing some type of game with
all of humanity. Just stop it, stop the game, stop
the silliness. Let's grow up. I'm sorry, Dave, I'm ranting again.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
No, but you're I don't think you're ranting. I think
you're you're showing him an emotion to a very very
serious topic that very few take seriously. The bigger name
senators and Congress. People who actually have the pull are
not really doing anything about this subject. They leave it
to the newbies or the underlings, you know. I mean

(53:18):
only recently have we heard both JD. Vance and Tulsea
Gabbert come out and express their knowledge and interest of
this subject without getting into detail of what they know. Yeah,
it's an emotional topic, if I could use that term correctly.
It's an emotional topic because the people who have been taken,

(53:39):
the people who want the answers, the people who've been
directly affected by this Dick, they just want to know
what is going on, Where are they from, why were
they chosen?

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean, like I said, they could crack
the door at least, you're right.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
So I mean, if we can't crack the door open,
you know, what's the point? You know? And I think
a lot of people forget as we get ready to
go to break here for a moment, I think a
lot of people Dick forget. There's two different euthologies. You
have the original ufology that's still going on, but it's
been kind of put in the back burner over the

(54:22):
last few years. For you apology. There's a big difference
between the two many don't realize it. Many don't care
to realize it. But when you realize the difference between
the two, now you know what you're looking for and
what you're not looking for. UAP band made UFOs. Yeah,

(54:44):
that's what we want, Dick. I'm gonna get you to
hold on right there. We're going to take a break.
Dick has a brand new book out two black op
Fears of Catastrophic Disclosure. Just type in Dick Landon on Amazon.
The book pops right up. Incredible cover. This looks good people.
This is what you want for your reading entertainment is

(55:10):
faced out right here with Oaks. All right, Dick, we
have about six minutes here. We're gonna turn things over
to Dirty Phil through the break, so that way he
could go over his cartoon and we'll see you in

(55:31):
a couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Okay, great, Oh.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Look, excuse me. I was just attempting to finish up
the last little bit of this, but I guess mister
gremlin here is decided otherwise, so I'll just have to
work around him.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
That's all right.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
He's a good guy, and aren't you, mister Hey, Yeah,
you're a good boy.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
Mister.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
He's not the smartest cat, but he's a good cat. Nonetheless,
I just have a little bit, a little bit extra
I had to put in the backgrounds here that I
forgot about put on earlier. I hope everyone's having a
wonderful evening so far.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I just.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Got this new computer all finally figured out and everything,
and now I just click, click everything, get right on
the line. Yes, he's sliding down, folks, by the way,
he's slowly disappearing.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
There you go, mister, yeah, jeez.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
And he doesn't realize how Biggie is either. He's a
pretty big gremlin. I also want to thank everybody for
hanging out with me last Saturday on my show. That's
a few if you're interested in cartoons, I drash Drug

(56:59):
Cartoons on Saturday is at two pm Pacific time. It's
just basically just me painting up a cartoon and talking
about interesting things like why you should always drink your
pickle juice because it's tasty, or how the Mothman is
gonna actually surprise Kentucky Goblin here and crush him At

(57:23):
ghost Hunter, that's what they're playing. It's an arcade machine,
one of the arcade machines at the at the space
bar and for the longest time the Goblin has ran
the high score up mm hmm. Likes to make fun
of people that can't beat him so well. As you know,

(57:45):
Mothman has been practicing quite a bit, so Frank. I
think Frank's gonna take him to the cleaners, folks. It's
actually Mothman's name, by the way, if you're wondering, it's
actually Frank already that it's all done, keys, Sorry, mister,

(58:05):
I'm gonna have to, oh here, get the pen.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Bunk.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Yeah, look at this thing, just pil right on there
like a dirty shirt. Unbelievable. Cats, I tell you smart
this real quick here, all right, buddy boy, Yeah, you're fine.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
After this all.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Someone mentioned about UFO crashes. Good enough for now, finish
risks afterwards. Just have a quick gander head of though.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
So I have.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
A evidence here of UFO crashes. Started off with Carl
getting fa certified for grief not breathing at all, and
then Carl decides to borrow the spacecraft Carl's precious or

(59:19):
stances geez out for Breece's spacecraft play hells. He's clawed
me to death here, folks, and dying anyway. So they
go to town. It's it's it's you know what. I'll just
have to show you on Saturday. You can't. You can't
rush a good story.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
See where's my little border?

Speaker 5 (59:38):
What have you done with it? Mister terror? There we go, there,
it is all nice and done up. I think I can.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
I got that weird glove because then it's really warm
right now, and they get all slimy and then slimy
and filthy, and then it ruins the water color. Yeah,
let's get a chew on this.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
Really.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Yeah, sorry, it's chief had enough orange cats to tell you, folks, incredible.
We hope someone's having a good night. We have to
deliver some snacks here to these guys. I think Dave's

(01:00:30):
probably been back from letting the dog man out. Yeah
there he is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Filthy. I gotta tell you your post on Facebook about
the about walking in the forest was hilarious. Good laugh
at that during the break.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Okay, everybody, have a good night, see.

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Let's bring in Dick Lendon for our number two of
the show. We're having a great time. We've been talking
a little bit of catastrophic disclosure because he's got a
brand new book out that can be found on Amazon
called Two Black Op Fears of Catastrophic Disclosure. Dick, thank
you so much for being here tonight. It's absolutely a
lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Thanks Dave. I appreciate it a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
One of the reasons why we wanted to bring you
on was to talk about astral travel and astral projection.
This is a big topic that a lot of people
can try in their homes. They could go anywhere they want.
First off, for those who may not know what it is,
give us a definition.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Well, quite simply, and how unbelievably it might sound, is
that between sleep and wakefulness, there's an altered state that
you go into and if you've trained your mind. With
meditation and quieted your mind, you'll recognize it and using

(01:03:46):
different techniques. There's dozens of techniques out there. Once you
establish this conscious you're still conscious, but your body is
a sleep and you can actually almost shake your inside

(01:04:07):
body around. You know you're you can. If you can
imagine staying still and shaking something inside you, well, that's
something inside you is your etheric body. It's a dimension
of that you've always had and in this magic zone

(01:04:34):
that and you can practice just some intentions and meditations,
you'll be able to shake that internal body around. Sometimes
there's an extraordinary body uh vibration that you'll experience that

(01:04:55):
will actually be a trigger for you. It's very The
sensation that you get once you get there is very visceral.
It can be frightening, so you have to be ready
for it. But if you read enough about it, you

(01:05:19):
should be able to get through it. But it is
one of the hardest things for people to get through
because you're you're fully conscious and you can you can
actually just roll right out of your body and shake
it right out and you'll be right there in your bedroom.
So was your question about what is the definition of astropy? Yes, Okay, Yeah,

(01:05:45):
so that body that you just stepped out of is
still into bed, but now it's like cocked out. I mean,
you're it's it's it's asleep and your mind one hundred
percent of your mind. Even though I have come out
as like, I always refer to myself as like being

(01:06:06):
five years old when I get out of my body.
So it's good to have a plan sometimes because at
a five year old so just kind of wander around.
But so I have I have a little a little
maturity at it now. But the definition of it is
you're you discover in one fail swoop one night that

(01:06:32):
you are a infinite, im wordal, multi dimensional person and
not just this physical meat body. You're a lot more
than just this. So that's what it is. And you'll
discover it all within an instant the first time you

(01:06:54):
do it, and it will will be shy king, it
will be enlightening, it will be beyond comprehension because it's
an experience. You know, you can think about, you know,
hitting your finger, your your thumb with a hammer, but
when you do it, it's a little different, right, Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
It's like that it doesn't feel good, So it's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
It's a it's an experience.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Do you think that many of us are astral traveling
in our dreams?

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I do, because do you have dreams where for an
for an example, do you have any dreams where you
know everybody in your dream? But you you recognize everybody,
but you don't know who they are? So when you dream,
you're you're crossing the veil of time and space, and

(01:07:55):
uh you could be meeting with a more than likely
past incarnations of of your life. There's a great movie
I could recommend to everybody. It's a TV series by
BBC's it's called Life After Life or Life. Yeah, Life
after Life, And there's more and more stuff coming out

(01:08:21):
about this, Dave, I think it's it's fascinating. But that's
a great series, Life after Life. It's a mini series
by BBC. I think, I think, yeah, people and when
they're dreaming. I'm trying to think of another example. You
know you're any astroplane and you're not just in your head?

(01:08:42):
Most all dreams are you know, young and shadow, you know,
what'd you have for dinner last night? Driven?

Speaker 7 (01:08:49):
Or uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Yeah, any of your repressed emotions, trauma, you know, post
traumatic syndrome. I mean those are all in your head.
But if you have dreams that are a little more
are everybody has had dreams that are more colorful, more
vivid and real, so real, And like I said, you're

(01:09:18):
around people and you're just having a good time, but
you don't know who they are, so you're in a
past life. So yeah, you're out of your body. And
I would say, you know, I would associate it with
vivid dreams that you have and say maybe ten percent
or so of your dreams might And that's a good

(01:09:42):
sign too, because if you have these vivid dreams, you're
that much closer to you know, consciously having lucid dreams
and then consciously getting out of your body. And I
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Is it worth it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Like you?

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Should people be trying this?

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Oh, without a doubt, without a doubt. It's life changing.
It's uh, it's healthy for you. It's you know, well,
the benefits.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah, explain the benefits if you don't mind.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Oh well, okay, so let's just let's look at the
most obvious. You're you lose the fear of death completely,
you realize that you're a transdimensional being. It's it's it
turns you know, an atheist into uh, going to church

(01:10:34):
again or you know, I mean, it's this the level
of spiritual uh uh, I don't I'm trying to pick
the word correctly. You're you're you're having a spiritual experience. Now,
you know, people have different kinds of spiritual experiences, uh,

(01:10:55):
when they're in their waking life. I mean, when you
see a UFO, you'll of his spiritual experience, I'm sure.
But this is a self induced and you can uh uh.
For for example, as far as self heal self healing,

(01:11:17):
I was really sick one time and I used meditation
to self heal, and at that time I was having
a lot out of body experiences. Well, we're all going
to have an out of body experience when we die,
you know. So that's that's another very real, i mean,
top top of the list benefit if you do this

(01:11:38):
when you are knocking on Heaven's door, you know, with
Bob Dylan, you're at the door you're knocking. You can
construct your heaven on the other side of that door.
Think about that, Think about when you die. The Buddhists

(01:11:59):
like to call it, you know, bardos and your clear
light mind, and it gives you the ability to reach nirvana.
There's different levels of heaven. There's the different levels, there's
there's solid day. These are real places, Okay. People are
having fantastic lives in these places. They aren't reincarnated. The

(01:12:23):
reincarnation is your choice, mostly because there's no judgment up there.
There's no there's no judgment when you cross over, but
you can configure that that ability, the ability to make
educated choices because you've experienced the astral, You've experienced a

(01:12:46):
dimension that was far beyond this one, and when you die,
the level of your experience and what you belief is everything.
Right They always say that right. Well, belief is one thing,
experience is another thing. If you experience this, you don't
have to believe you're going to be at Heaven's door

(01:13:08):
knocking and uh. And the configuration as that door opens
up and what's behind it is going to be primarily
thought driven. You will join a consensus reality that you
harmonize with what your what your energy level is set

(01:13:30):
to when you cross that door, you will join with
on the other side. Now, some people will say that's malarchy. Okay,
well fine, but I say once you experience the etheric
body and the consciousness that these places that you might

(01:13:53):
be able to visit. Uh, it's it's kind of like
you're like I said this before, it's like Christopher Columbus. Okay.
The people, the people that are doing this and experiencing
it are like Christopher Columbus. They are adventurers, they are

(01:14:13):
they are consciousness explorers. And you're at that. You take
that with you when you die. Okay, and it's very important.
You're you want to say something, Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
No, I'm listening.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Oh okay. The other thing about healing, I mean the
the neuroplasticity. They know now that you can rewire your brain.
I mean, it's a fact that Tibetan yogis that are
ninety years old have brains of twenty five year olds.
They've mapped them out. They also have incredible cross connections

(01:14:51):
between the two hemispheres. They say that the auto body
experience is somewhere between know sue HEMI serious the point
they don't know. There's a lot of scientific stuff that
needs to be done. They have proven lucid dreams without
a doubt. People are in an altered state with lucid dreams.
But you can heal, uh, you know, forget about dementia,

(01:15:16):
forget about the Alzheimer's. You know, uh, your mind is
going to be young when you're older. Okay, boom, just
like that if you work to expand it through meditation
and these type of if you're lucky enough. You know that.
I said before the you know, can anybody astro project? Yeah,

(01:15:41):
that's a big question. Can I do this? I say, yes,
you have atheric body, You have talked to people in
your dreams that you don't know who they are. You've
already been to the astral, you just weren't consciously aware
of it. So yes, anybody can do it. But it
does take determination. It takes a lot of meditation and practice.

(01:16:02):
And you know, I'm getting to the point where I've
seen and experienced things in the astral that I almost
feel like I can't top right, If that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah, give it us for people who may not understand it.
Give us an example of what it would be like
to astra travel. What are you seeing? Where are you going?

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Okay? In the beginning, what I did was call out
for help for my guides. Okay, Now it turns out
that there's there's a lot of at the lower levels.
You know, most people come out, you know, they'll be
in the lower level. They'll be you know, their room
might be different. You know, when they get out, they'll

(01:16:52):
notice changes. It's not the same place. It's an altered reality.
It's an altered parallel universe. Let's say you know it's
a realm. Okay, you're in the lower realm. From that point,
what I did was I called upon my guides, which

(01:17:12):
in my in my innocence, you're anybody could show up.
I mean, you have to learn discernment. It's I told
you a little story last time. You know about the
guy in the golden car that showed up in the
front of the house, and it was tunnel vision, and
I could say something was off, and I said, are

(01:17:33):
you a card carrying agent of Jesus Christ? And he
flipped out, and so I knew he wasn't. There's a
lot of activity in the lower realms, so they can't
touch you. They can you can you can simply ignore him.
You know you've heard about the Old Hag, the hat Man,
the shadow people. Yeah, I've had him all right out

(01:17:55):
out in my bedroom. As soon as I travel out
in the living room, if I'm going that way, if
I don't just go out my wall. But anyway. I
would my initially would ask for guides. So that was
interesting because it worked, like, you know, somebody showed up.
The first couple of times, I had, Okay, this is

(01:18:18):
how crazy it is, David, Like I said, it's like
Christopher Columbus. So I'm asking for I'm sincerely on my
knees in the backyard and I'm going please come and
let me have your guidance. Please, my guide. I need
to have help in the astral come, you know, help me,

(01:18:41):
just sincerity on my knees in the backyard. I did
it half dozen times, at least in the beginning, and
the first time it ever happened was really cool. First
time we do this kind of stuff. It's like a
fella showed up, a fellow, a woman, a being showed up.
It was about six or seven feet tall, and it

(01:19:03):
was a walking type of cactus. Man. Okay, it was
like cactus and it's like just you know, trotting along.
The next time when I called for a guide, it
was a giant black bird with stiff legs. You know.
The first guy turned into a basketball player and he

(01:19:26):
was like big, tall guy with red hair. I looked
him up on the internet. Later and I asked him
once again, very naively, I said, is love the matter?
That is love the substance of the universe? Is it

(01:19:47):
only love? And so he started giving me relational advice.
And you know, oh, love is important and everybody needs
to be loved and you need to make and you
know you don't want to be alone. Wait wait, time out,
time out. No, I'm not asking that. So you know,
you get fooled with. There's a lot of times when

(01:20:10):
I had guides. I was really into guides for quite
a while. And uh, the big thing with them, okay,
besides trying to scare you maybe or flip you out,
you know, just get you back in your I think
that's the number one thing with these beings. There there's
I'm not saying there's ying and yang. There's good and evil.

(01:20:32):
You know, you know, there's both sides of the coin.
But the side that you're the side, the predominant side,
and really the control of the whole universe is a
good side. Okay. But it's a learning process, you know.
They say, Earth, is this the most amazing place to
learn we have? They say aliens come here to incarnate.

(01:20:54):
They just want to It's like Disneyland for them, you know,
for I don't know. I don't know if they're incarnating
without remembering though. See that's a pet peeve of mine
about Yeah, so I'm all over the place here, Dave,
as usual. But the health benefits, uh. I healed myself

(01:21:16):
definitely from a surgical operation on myself. I also know
that I've had my hands on my body, my theory,
my theoric hans on my body. So I'm going to
try to do some work on my body sometime. Not
that I have anything that I have to work on

(01:21:36):
in particular, but maybe I could, you know, still, you know,
advance my consciousness by taking my theoric hands and putting
it on my head directly. It's very hard to do
that though, because most people will wake up. You know.
It's it's you get you want to get away from
your body. Matter of fact, I I would say, get

(01:21:58):
out of your neighborhood. You know, you fly out, get
away from your neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
What if somebody sneaks into your body?

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Oh you asked me this before. I have an answer
for you this time. I thought that was a tremendous question, Dave.
Where the twin sisters one of them was kind of
depressed and wanted to kill herself, but she didn't want
to kill herself. And they went off to a two
day retreat. I think you said it was only todays,
and though the sisters came back and the way you
should interview the one sister, I'll tell you that the

(01:22:31):
one sister came back, and she was different, distinctly different,
and of course her her twin would know if anybody
knew that something was off with her, like majorly different person.
So I said, well, nobody's gonna jump in. You have
free will. Your consciousness is all powerful, everywhere, all at once,

(01:22:53):
all times. Nobody's gonna nobody can do that to you.
But if you go out consciously and you give your
free will away, and I and I was thinking, there's
all kinds of beings. She could have raised her consciousness
to quite a high level, and they might have made
a deal with her. You know, they could have just gone, hey, Cindy,

(01:23:16):
we hear that you're a little depressed, and here's here's
here's the contract. You know, I don't know you and
I will switch, you know, for a time period, a lifetime,
five lifetimes, and and off you go, you know, you,

(01:23:38):
you can travel and stay at the higher consciousness level
of of this being, and that being would come back
to here and and enjoy Disneyland on Earth, either with
the veil or without the veil, which, like I said,
as a pet peeve of mine. The veil, thing and
reincarnation and karma are all a pet peeve of mine,

(01:24:01):
which I would love to talk about it too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Well, let's get into that in the next half hour, Dick,
as we have a you on the show for another
thirty minutes. Dick landed he has a brand new book out,
two Black op Fears of Catastrophic Disclosure are where we
are at. It's been a great show. You can find
his book on Amazon. We're going to take some audience
questions next when we return. This is spaced Out Radio,

(01:24:28):
the second half of the show coming up right after
this break.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
You're listening to.

Speaker 6 (01:24:47):
Spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Flying on by here. Dick. It's always a good time
when you hear my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
Oh, good good. I want to at least entertain you. Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Oh, You're doing amazing. You are doing amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
There's so much to this and what you do. I mean,
it's amazing. I think you possibly have trouble going to
sleep at night after so many of these people that
you have on talking about all these.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Yeah, you become a little bit immune to it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Yeah. You know, how many shows have you had?

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Over two thousand?

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Wow? So what ten years or something?

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Ten years? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Although I am taking the final week of August off, way,
I can redo the studio here.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
Oh yeah, there's always things to do around the house.
Oh yeah, around the studio. I've been neglecting things. I
spent a solid three months with the book, and I
haven't done that before. So, I uh, it was like
breaking out of jail. When I was finished. I just

(01:26:53):
was I was glad to be finished with it. One
of these days you'll probably have a well maybe you have.
Have you had a hybrid on before with your.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Somebody save claim? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Yeah, yeah. How do you prove that? Yeah, they'd have
to like start making you talk in tongues or something.
I suppose.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
You just kind of how would you put it? Ah,
you try and be pragmatic about it. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. You try and be a little pragmatic
about it. Take everything with a grain of salt, and yeah,

(01:27:54):
and try and bring the you know, hopefully that's somebody
is going to be honest with you. I think, but
I will be I'll tell you this, dick. The experiencers
are way more honest than the researchers.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Oh yeah, yeah right.

Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Are you speaking specifically to a UFO study topic? Any topic?

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Any topic?

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Any topic on that man?

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
And what are your favorite topics?

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
I love the cryptid stories. Oh yeah, like, but my
favorite stories of all are personal encounters. I love people's
personal encounters.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Yeah, like Eugene he's yeah, he would talk about Betty Hill.
I guess yeah, he was friends with Betty Hill. Sure. Oh,
I'm gonna have to have my friend call in some
UFOs for me. I know you said it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
You can do it yourself, brother, Yeah, I yah, it's easy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
I what if you were to call in a UFO, David,
It just land and you know, come out and say,
all right, buddy, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
All right, it happens. Then you get the shit scared
out of you, like happened to me.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
They just want some of your sperm or something.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
I suppose not all of them are perverts.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
I didn't say that they're looking for your jeans.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Well, I get that. You know, that's what American Eagle
is for these days. They got good jeans.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
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(01:31:33):
Landed got a brand new book out. It's on Amazon.
Two Black Op Fears of Catastrophic Disclosure going on right now,
and Dick, we're gonna get to some audience questions if
you don't mind, greatly appreciate he coming on in.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Yes, that's awesome, awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
All right, let's go right to it. Start off with
super Run. If I make a thing that spins a
quartz crystal inside of magnetic fee, then place it in
a weird energy spot, do you think it would trigger something?

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Well, super Ron thirteen, did it take long for you
to ask that question? Did you work at that? I
have no idea. I've heard and I have used some
crystals and they can't excite your whole field. If you

(01:32:27):
put them under your bed at night when you sleep,
you might have some really great weird dreams as far
as a weird energy spot, thinking about the pyramids or Sonora.
The idea of portals is very interesting to me. I

(01:32:50):
think there are really strong points on the Earth that
could excite something like I mean, crystals themselves have an energy.
Everything has an energy. I mean the desk, in the
chair that we're sitting, you know, we're at they they're
all made of energy. Oh, that's what I was going
to mention, Dave. The one of the latest one of

(01:33:14):
the latest things across in front of my eyeballs on
the internet was, you know, the idea of E equals
MC squared that they have figured out, you know, to
use the equation to make matter from energy. So that
kind of like screams consciousness, doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
It, Dave energy?

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Yeah, So yeah, that that did cross in front of
me the other day. So that's that's that's I mean, yeah,
there's there's energy spots in crystals. You put them together
and there's no doubt they probably would harmonize and resonate somewhat,
and you might a UFO might land, you know, you know,

(01:33:59):
or you might have out of body experience very easily
from a meditation, you know, which I've been trying to do.
It's it's what the A'sbatan yogi's uh with with the
sleep yoga and dream yoga? Do so? Yeah? Why not? Yes,
it's super Ron.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Yes, all right, let's move on to another question. Let's
go to j. What does Chris Bledsoe say about the
now coming three I Atlas space object now on its
way here to Earth by the end of October November?

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
I don't know, good question, Well, what do you think?
I don't know that much about it. It's a brand
new one of those objects that is on a it
takes a weird path or has a mind of its own.

(01:34:54):
Is that what they're saying? And like we had one
past a while ago, a big just look like big rock.
What happened to that one? Anything? Uh, there's a lot
of space debris out there, for all I know. It
could be a probe. You know, it could be ah,
you know they're watching. Uh they figure they can float

(01:35:16):
a rock by and it's they want to see if
we'll shoot it down or something. You know. The scenarios
are endless on this kind of stuff. Uh, October Is
there something about October? Mm hmm, Okay, I'll be ready though,
I'll be ready in October whatever happens. And I don't

(01:35:38):
know what Chris has any He hasn't said anything about
it that I know of. But I love Chris Blesso.
He's one of the most humble, enlightened, enlightened people on
the on the on the world, in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
He is a nice man, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Yes, yes, have you had him on?

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Oh yeah, a couple of times?

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Ye Oh, that's awesome. I missed him. I have to
look that up.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Yeah, he's pretty great. Let's go over to Jennifer. Is
there a difference between astral travel and dream travel?

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
Oh? No, I if you're okay, this is how it works.
If you're in a dream. The Tibetan yogis go, you're
in a dream, right, And then to maybe set the stage,
you want to you want to think of a dream
that you've had often. You know, He's like maybe your

(01:36:45):
old house back home when you're a kid or something.
You know, some a place is good that you have
repeatedly in a dream. You can go to that place
with intention before you fall asleep. You know, I'm I'm
going to go to Little Abner's house tonight and I'm
going to visit my friend on that I used to play,

(01:37:07):
you know, a kickball with whatever. I maybe it was
an old house where you lived, and so you go
there and you become lucid instantly. You can you could
if you if you do this right when you get there,
it'll smack you like a ton of a ton of bricks.

(01:37:28):
You're lucid. You're fully aware in a dream. Okay, So
then you can enjoy the dream. You can play kickball
with your friend or any nefarious thing you want to do.
It's a waste of time. What you should be doing

(01:37:49):
is trying to get to the astral or and hire.
Like I said, the mechanics, the quantum mechanics. So there's
a dimensions, so you could travel and the future is tough,
but you travel in the past, see yourself as uh

(01:38:11):
you know, and explore in the middle in the Middle
Ages or whatever. You could dream travel that way, you could.
You could. You can launch an o b E an
out of body experience from a lucid dream. It's a
really cool, great semi you know, easy way to do

(01:38:34):
once you get the techniques down. So yeah, it's the
same thing. That's that's my answer. Love it, love it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
Let's move on to another one here. Let's go next
to carry what if you're having dreams of you flying
like Superman and you're fighting someone that is also flying
and having a battle, and you wake up freaked out.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Stop fighting, you know, just make friends if you If
you're doing this and you're not loocid enough, you can't
stop fighting, and you can't make friends because your your
reptilian mind in the back of your head with all
your young in thoughts and all your latent mixed up

(01:39:27):
kind of troublesome ideas. Makes you fight with a superman.

Speaker 5 (01:39:32):
You have to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
You have to get beyond the fighting instinct and you
become aware that here he is again, I'm fighting with Superman,
and I'm just going to wake up and free and
be freaked out again. So you shake hands with a superman,
you say, hey, let's let's see. I'll race you to
the moon, around the ruin and back. You know, I
had a friend who had a near death experience just

(01:39:57):
when he was fourteen years old swimming. Maybe not not
like Eugene Braxton, but Eugene would get a kick out
of this. He came up and uh, he couldn't get
out of the water because of a friend was like
keeping him down or so he you don't have to die,
you know, in a near deck experience, you could have

(01:40:18):
a traumatic you know, thing happened. And that's what he did.
He he had this uh, he had uh. His his
life flashed in front of him instantly, and he I'm
trying to how I'm going to relate it to the
Superman fighting thing. I lost that thought. But you want

(01:40:45):
to hear a good one along those lines. This is
a good one. This convict, he has a lot of
time on his hands, right, so he got the books
and he learned ast projection. He worked at it work.
He meditated, you know, to meditate a lot. He had
lots of time to meditate. He would get out of

(01:41:06):
his body and he would demand, he'd go, you know,
just walk out of the prison.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
So there's a lot of advantages to it. And so
he'd walk out, you know, and and then he would
find a guide or I would say, slash a being
and he would go, hey, I want to see my mom.
I really want to talk to His mom's deceased. So
he you know, he's read and heard all these stories
about you know, talking to people that have passed and

(01:41:34):
they said, no, you can't, and they he he would
he would fight with them physically in the astral. I
just I just find that so humorous because uh Sri,
way back when they had remote viewers, they said, hey,
you know, the heck with this remote viewing thing and
drawing pictures on a piece of paper, Let's send somebody there,

(01:41:56):
you know, in the astral and you know they have
you know, they have their mind there. They see everything,
hear everything, you know. But the astral projectors wouldn't do it.
It didn't work for him because the astral is a
higher level of thinking, it's a higher consciousness. And just
like just like doctor Greer says, the aliens are at

(01:42:20):
such a high level of consciousness they don't care about
taking Earth over and never will. Yeah. Sure, maybe they're
you know, doing some hybridization or something like that. You know,
they they scare the Bejesus some people well that they
want to contact, like you know, even vincent fields that

(01:42:42):
I was telling you about before. But I think enough
of that. I hope that's enough. Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
All right, Let's move on to another question here, Dick.
Let's go next to Beno. Why would you come back
if you're having such a great time astral travel?

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Oh really, that's a great question. Okay. The number one
thing is problem with ask projection is you can't do
it for too long. It's like it it's like you
winning the lottery. If you can, you know, go to

(01:43:23):
the dark side of the moon and around or of
course they have trackers over there and they know when
you're showing up. But and when I say they, I
don't know who they are. But uh, the hardest thing
is staying out out longer, not shorter. You you're always

(01:43:44):
there's so many times you pop back at the wrong
time and and you just go you just you're almost
mad at yourself. But you can't be because when you're
in that state of mind and you come back from
one obe I usually have two or three. You know,
you have to stay completely still when you come back,

(01:44:07):
and you'll just go right back into the vibrations. Uh,
you'll be able to have two or three. And lucid
dreams also, you know you'll have two or three of those.
If you're having lucid dreams a lot. It's not that hard, uh,
just reading a few books to be able to get
out of your body. So I guess it's a personal choice,

(01:44:32):
but it mostly hits determined by your level of UH.
I mean there's some individuals like Darius Wright and uh
uh uh, Jurgen v Zebrze, they have extended uh out

(01:44:54):
of the body experiences. I mean Jurgen was at one
point he said he was meditating like seven nine hours
a day. And yeah, and and they have extended times out.
But no, no, you can't stay out. It's impossible. Nobody's
gonna take your body or anything. There's no danger in it.
Nobody can hurt you when you're out there. Nobody can

(01:45:15):
intimidate you when you're out there, but they can mislead you.
You could have a better time if you just you know,
have a high level of discernment. And there are techniques
they called anchoring techniques where you rub your hands together,
you rub your face together, rub your hands together while
you're out, pick up a stone, look at it, study it.

(01:45:41):
There's techniques to anchor yourself into the astral wherever you are.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
All right, let's move on to another one. Let's go
next to Andromedin Dick, do you think that in this
realm or reality is one of the best part of me?
Is one of the belief systems realities example, the multiverse.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
Okay, I'm trying to understand this question.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Do you think this realm or reality is one of
the belief system realities example, the multiverse.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Well, yeah, we're part of the multiverse. There's no doubt
about that. And I said from the beginning, you're in
you're a multi dimensional being. That means that you can
exist in a lot of different dimensions and realms and
you can explore them and experience them. The idea of

(01:46:44):
playing around with a with a multiverse or the belief
system thing. He he loses me with that question. But
if you believe in the multiverse, if you believe, and
I will add to uh that once you get to

(01:47:07):
the multiverse, it will be more real than here. So
the reality of it is shocking. You're going to experience
something you've never experienced before. So when you do that,

(01:47:28):
your belief system automatically changes. I was discussing that earlier.
That's the number one thing that holds you back. Once
you come back, your belief system is changed. If you're
an atheist, you're not an atheist anymore. Stuff like that.
I mean, you're you're going to be a much more
open and and thinking type of person. Your belief system.

(01:47:53):
You're you won't have really a belief system. Okay, that's
what I'm what I'm saying, drop all the belief system
and travel and experience the heck with belief. You don't
need belief. You're you're an infinite, immortal being that can

(01:48:13):
do anything. Essentially, the higher that you go in realms,
your thoughts can create and manifest I haven't done that
a lot. I'm not into the whole manifestation thing and
them in the you know so much you know manipulation.
I stopped that long time ago. Uh Okay, I guess

(01:48:36):
next question or sure.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Let's go to the next one. We got five and
a half minutes. Let's go to boondock. Are we tethered
as children to keep us from getting too far away
from our body?

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Well, you can't get too far away. There's no such
thing as distance. And in the fourth, fifth and upward dimensions,
children are the most untethered of all. They're they walk
around in theta. I mean, the mind is an incredible thing.
They're they're just starting to form their belief systems. They

(01:49:11):
have no belief. So that last question was excellent in
that sense. The kids don't have belief systems. They can
they just you know, they have they have imaginary friends.
Well they're You got to listen to your kids when
they start talking about imaginary friends, because you know, you
don't want them to be frightened of them. You know,

(01:49:31):
you should encourage your children all to experience as much
as they possibly can and talk to them, uh and
and listen to them about their experiences because they're having them.
I mean a lot of a lot of psychics have
a real traumatic uh time with family life sometimes because

(01:49:56):
they keep you know, in broad daylight wherever. I haven't
had that happen to me. I'm ready for it, but
I haven't, you know, where they have experiences and they
tell their parents, and their parents says, don't don't tell
anybody about that. Don't talk about that, don't you know?
You know. So that's the worst thing you can do

(01:50:16):
for kids, because they're so untethered, they have no belief system.
You should let them experience as much as possible, as
fast as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
All right, let's go to bigfoot in the bunny media.
What's your thoughts on hat men men in black and
that's not Johnny Cash.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
That's a good one. Yeah, they're my friends. You know,
I've had shadow I've had shadowed guys. I go through,
I go through the door into the living room, and
I'm with my dog who's passed away. He's with me
half the time, my German shepherd Jericho. I had to

(01:51:00):
put him down, but he's with me instantly as soon
as I get out of my body. Half the time,
I mean, totally uh tac till you know, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm,
you know, rubbing him down and scratching him. And he
has beautiful fur and all the ten yards of you
know dog that he is. And he's with me. I

(01:51:21):
go out in the living room, you know, and there's
big tall, black, shadowy thing, and I just go, come on,
let's go flying. And I just go right out my
front door. I'm you know, I'm two stories up and
I just jump right off and and they're with me.
And they usually are a being of some sort. I

(01:51:46):
wouldn't say they were guide or whatever, but and they'll
they'll give you some direction. And my pet peeve about
that is when these guys follow and come with me,
and you know, we're a team. And I mean I've
had them. I've had leprechaun sized beings holding onto my
neck as I'm flying. You know, we're buddies, and I'll

(01:52:12):
go so far, and I might make a request, which
I don't do anymore. I don't make requests anymore. I
follow my higher self.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Let's get in. Two minutes left, let's go to night drive. Okay,
what's the real What is the astral projection Hag? Have
you ever heard of that?

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Well? I mean the Old Hag is typically from a
sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis the easy way, easiest way to
escape your body. If you have sleep paralysis out there, everybody,
it's a gift. It's not it's not a scary thing,
but it happens to be. It sleep paralysis magnifies for

(01:52:53):
some reason. Okay, it lets all all your wild He'll
imagine nation and fears escape. Now. The Old Hag is
an archetype or a Gregorian. It's it's an over eons
of time. People have had this dream, this, this frightful,
frightful dream. They almost they almost you've heard of like

(01:53:16):
psychic vampires, right, Dave, So you can think of it
that way. It's built from all this fear from across time,
and it's configured an old hag that is right sitting
on top of your chest biting your ear.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
One more question, Well, I want to sneak in one
more human Carl Dick, do you have any idea what
happens out of body experience wise if one passes over
while under general anesthesia.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Passes over. Well, okay, we've got about thirty You can
you can people in your death experiences have the most
amazing you know. Yeah, it doesn't matter the condition of
the body nothing. This is all mind you can have.
You can be pumped up with all kinds of drugs
and heroin or morphine or anesthesia, no difference. When you

(01:54:13):
get out, you're yourself in your best shape you've ever been,
in your sharpest, you know. I mean, you're you're free,
all the pain is gone. Yeah. So yeah, astral projection
you can do it in any physical problem that you
may have. It might even it might even advance it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
I mean, Dick, thank you so much for coming on
Spaced Out Radio tonight. Really appreciate it. Coming up next
on the show, we have Swamp Dweller and we have
Little Timmy James the UFO Report. You're listening to spaced
Out Radio with your host Dave Scott. Great job tonight, Bud.

(01:55:08):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
I had fun. You could tell how much fun I'm having.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Good. How does it's a voute? My man?

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
It's uh, it's all about connecting and I want to
be able to help as many people as I possibly
can to, you know, open up to these kind of
things and ideas and you know, expand your mind. It's
all about expanding your mind like your shows.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
Absolutely, I got to run here, but thank you very much,
my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
Yeah, yeah, well we'll see you again.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
I hope, yes, you will. Appreciate you. Take care of
my man. I have other subjects, all right, Dick Land
and everybody. Great guy, very nice guy. Thank you Eugene
Braxon for recommending him. I'll be right back.

Speaker 7 (01:56:00):
Four HUSSA, m.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
All right, spring little Timmy James in. What's happening, buddy?

Speaker 3 (02:00:32):
Oh do you know?

Speaker 6 (02:00:35):
Oh my eyes are burning?

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
Well it happens.

Speaker 6 (02:00:42):
It's all good, it's all good. Hey, nice microphone?

Speaker 1 (02:00:45):
Suck you like that. I got a purple one too.

Speaker 6 (02:00:49):
Yeah, that's like I've looked at it. I was like, damn,
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
You ready for the weekend? Oh yeah, we're gonna have fun.
We're gonna have fun you think, Uh my reroocaster came
in today, oh night for yesterday? Pardon me?

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
Nice?

Speaker 6 (02:01:17):
Yeah, alright yeah compared to last weekend, I hope we
have fun.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
Thank you to human Carl Louis times two, Kitty Kettywack
and mel wd forty for the super chats. Here we
go with that. Hour three. Here comes the third end,
final hour of spaced Out Radio tonight. My name is

(02:01:43):
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Speaker 8 (02:02:39):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp. I'm swamp dweller,
and tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the nerve, sharing tales of monsters, legends, and nightmares.
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 9 (02:02:57):
So my trucking route is from here in Connecticut down
to Kentucky and Tennessee. It's a pretty good run. I
get to see all the sites of the East Coast,
but one area of the country gets wild, the area
around the Appalachian Mountains. You guys probably know that one
of the country's poorest areas got screwed over as the
coal mining jobs dwindled and the local economy went down

(02:03:19):
the crapper. I feel for those people down there, seeing
how entrenched in poverty some families are as truly heartbreaking.
So I was rolling through an area of the state
that I hadn't previously been through thanks to my usual
section of the highway being blocked off by some traffic
accident that had unfortunately left a few people dead. I
was having some trouble navigating the road after my phone

(02:03:41):
ran out of battery, and once you know it, the
plug charger decided to give out too. Worst timing ever.
But I was an experienced truck driver and wasn't driving
an eighteen wheeler on that run, so I was free
to take some more of the miner roads to find
my way around. But even though I considered myself pretty
good on the streets, there was a point when I
found myself hopelessly lost, and I started to worry that

(02:04:03):
I wouldn't make my shipping delivery deadline. That would mean
disciplinary proceedings and I could not afford those. So anyway,
I happened to see this guy wandering down the side
of the road, so I slowed my truck down, wind
down the window and ask him for directions. The guy
seems friendly enough and is willing to take a few
minutes to give me all the information I need to

(02:04:24):
make it back onto the main highway that are headed south.
But then I started asking him if there was anywhere
nearby that I could get some lunch, as it was
getting towards about one in the afternoon and I'd only
managed to get myself a meager breakfast. The guy seems
to think for a minute, scratching his head, taking an
unusually long time to think of an answer to this

(02:04:45):
question that usually would only take a few seconds to answer.
It's rare to be anywhere in West Virginia where there
isn't a cracker barrel within a few miles, So why
he didn't just point me in the direction of one
of those was beyond me. When I pressed him, he
told me he knew of an old, old family run
plays that did the best chicken fried steak in the
entire county, maybe even the state. Suddenly all was forgiven.

(02:05:07):
Now I might be a Northerner, but I'll be damned
if I turned down a good chicken fried steak. All
that was taking so long was for him to try
and remember the best way there that wouldn't take me
down some rundown, old dirt road, one which might get
my truck stuck on it, which would have left me screwed.
So after a minute, he gave me a detailed direction

(02:05:28):
toward an old strip mall. He told me it was
mostly abandoned, but the restaurant was still there, along with
a few other smaller businesses, and not to pay any mind.
At the place seemed quiet during lunch as it did
most of its business in the early morning till late evening.
I was happy enough think. The guy then set off
following the directions he had given me. So it took

(02:05:49):
me a little while to find the old strip mall
the guy was talking about. It was a little frustrating
to drive past a couple of chain restaurants and what not,
given that I was so hungry, But goddamn, if I
wasn't craving some of that country style chicken fried steak,
and if it was really a family run place, then
all the better. The chain restaurant stuff doesn't cut it

(02:06:10):
compared to the authentic home style cooking. But eventually I
found this rundown old strip mall the guy seemed to
be talking about, and it was a wonder that this
place was in such a state of disrepair. It was
way off any highway. There were absolutely no signs anywhere,
literally nothing to let you know it was there. But

(02:06:30):
even worse, I saw no indication that any kind of
restaurant was open in any of the units. I wasn't
about to give up so easily, though, as I saw
one place with a big old sign saying something like
Mama Jay's Country Kitchen, or some weird variation, so my
hopes were restored. That's when I see a guy open
the door of the place, stepping out into the afternoon

(02:06:50):
heat and staring over at my truck. I gave him
away from the driver's side, overjoyed that I was finally
about to get some decent food and what had been
a long, a lonely drive down from Connecticut. I figured
he hadn't seen me do it that or the sun
was obscuring his vision or something, because he just continued
to stare back at me. I get out of my truck,

(02:07:12):
locked the doors, and walked to the restaurant. I called
out to the guy halfway across the parking lot, asking
if they were open for business again. The guy doesn't react.
He keeps staring at me in a distinctly unwelcoming way
that I notice something in my gut just told me
to stop walking. I had this creeping feeling all over
my body, like something was telling me that something was

(02:07:32):
wrong with this whole setup, and no sooner had I
started feeling distinctly vulnerable. The guy reached behind his back,
pulling something out of his back pocket and put it
on his head. At first, I thought it was a
wooly hat, but then he pulled it down and I
realized it was a ballack lava. Then I noticed something
else in his hand, a small revolver. I turn and

(02:07:53):
start running back to the truck, and as I do,
I see a few other guys emerging from the derelict units,
each running towards my car and trying to cut me off.
Each had a weapon in their hand, be it a
knife or an iron bar, and seeing those just made
me run even faster. Thank god I had gotten that
feeling when I did, Otherwise they would have made it
to the truck before I did. I threw the door open,

(02:08:16):
jumped inside, and locked the cab behind me, Trembling. As
I was rummaging from my pocket trying to get my keys,
the bandit surrounded the cap of my truck, hitting the
chassis with their weapons and demanding I get out. The
guy with the gun aimed it right at my face
through the windshield, screaming for me to get the hell
out of the truck. I had no choice but to
do what I did. I gunned the engine and plowed

(02:08:37):
the whole bunch of them, knocking down those who didn't
jump out. Of the way of mine. I leaned down
in my seat as I gripped the wheel at a
pure instinct, and again I thank god I did, because
when I did that and I hit the guy with
the gun, he let loose a single shot that shattered
the wind shield and struck the seat just above my head.
I circled the parking lot, expecting the following image to

(02:08:58):
come at any moment, but only the bands that had
gotten out of my way of my initial truck charge
were chasing me.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
Two or three were.

Speaker 9 (02:09:05):
Lying on the concrete, rolling around in pain, while the
others held onto their limbs. I think it's about the
only thing that saved me, having the presence of mind
to ram them instead of trying to reverse out of there.
If that had been my choice, I might not be
around to tell you this story. I got out of
that parking lot, speeding off blindly in the first direction
I could until I found somewhere to park up and.

Speaker 8 (02:09:25):
Call the cops safely.

Speaker 9 (02:09:27):
The sheriff's deputy I spoke to told me to swing
on by the department when I was able to so
I could give a statement. And I did exactly that,
but not until I'd managed to get some lunch, as
not even the terror of almost getting hijacked and getting
killed would dole my appetite. I guess that makes me
sound goddamn fat, but you guys need to appreciate just

(02:09:47):
how hungry I was. Down at the department. However, I
learned that I was not the first truck driver to
have this issue. I was not the first one at
all actually to run into these bandits. How I'd been
just unlucky enough to ask directions from one of their kinfolk,
who had directed me to a Rundown strip mall just
before calling his buddies to let them know i'd be there.

(02:10:08):
At least, that's the only conclusion we came to once
I described the guy I had asked directions from. The
deputy seemed to nod knowingly when I related this guy's
physical description. I'm warning you guys to be very careful
when you're out on the roads. And although it seems
like a tired old cautionary tale from your Facebook posting, aunt,
be careful when you talk to strangers. There's no way

(02:10:29):
of knowing who they actually are.

Speaker 1 (02:10:32):
Thank you swamp Dweller for another spooky story. If you
want more, Just like that. Head on over to our
YouTube or his YouTube channel, Swamp Dweller, hit subscribe, ring
that bell and you got thousands of stories to choose
From's bringing Tim That is an interplanetary flying space saucer.

(02:11:05):
Here we go with little Timmy James and he is
back for the UFO report. After seeing a dude, I
am still try to put the puzzle pieces together. So,
as you all know, we have been investigating the Flight
twenty one project that we've been doing, and we went

(02:11:25):
out for time number nine this past weekend, and let
me tell you it started off weird. Driving on the
highway to get to the location. We had a bare,
massive black bear run across the highway in front of us,
and follow up with a few other pieces of wildlife,

(02:11:47):
which was beautiful always and then Tim, you saw something
that just doesn't make sense. Now, for the record, I
did not see it. I was driving. I had my
eyes on the road.

Speaker 6 (02:12:00):
Mm hmm. All right. So everybody may or may not
remember Dave had seen something that looked like a cow
or a couple of cows. That was I think about
three or four trips ago in that same sort of area.

(02:12:22):
We're a cruise along and we're having a good time.
We're you know, cabits and the chit chatting, listening to tunes,
and you know, we're scoping the forest as we're going in.

Speaker 4 (02:12:31):
And.

Speaker 6 (02:12:33):
I'm obviously in the passenger seat, I'm just kind of
hanging and I'm looking out to the to my right side,
and we're cruise and I as we're approaching a line
of trees and not a big deal, and what the
heck is that standing in there? And We're we're moving along,
so I'm looking, I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (02:12:51):
I'm like, what is that?

Speaker 5 (02:12:52):
What is that?

Speaker 6 (02:12:53):
And then as we get closer, so this thing, whatever
it is, is facing me straight on, so it's at
a forty five degree angle, I guess, and as we
get closer, we'll rip it through. And my brain starts
doing the hunting thing. Right, is that a moose? Is
that a deer?

Speaker 4 (02:13:10):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
What is that? Right?

Speaker 6 (02:13:11):
And I look and it's this thing is jet black,
like jet black, gloss black. It looks like an emaciated deer.
And it's god, you think it was maybe about i
don't know, seven eight inches across, like it just looked
like a rail thin deer, but black, and it had

(02:13:35):
its its its hind end up in the air, and
its front legs kind of crouched down, and it looked
like it was grazing. Didn't look up at us, it
didn't look And this is all happening like as we're
traveling down this road at about fifty sixty kilometers an hour,
so thirty miles.

Speaker 1 (02:13:56):
An hour, thirty eight kilometers.

Speaker 6 (02:14:01):
Yeah, okay, yeah, sure, okay, thirty eight klumeters. So I
look o, I'm watching this thing. And the thing that
got me is it's it's like I said, it's hunched down.
And I look and its ears are about seven they
look like rabbit ears, like they're seven or eight inches long,

(02:14:21):
and they're sticking straight up. I go, I kind of
go with my brain starts snapping away, and Dave goes,
what'd you see? I go, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop,
So he hits the brakes.

Speaker 3 (02:14:34):
We back up.

Speaker 6 (02:14:35):
I'm hanging out the passenger window looking behind us. He goes,
tell me when to stop. I say, go, go, go go,
and then okay, right there, so I look nothing, absolutely nothing.
So Dave backs up a little further. We're looking in
the trees and we're not talking heavy dense bush like
you can see about half a mile quarter mile through
the through the trees. I get out of the truck

(02:14:58):
and I gotta go see what was, you know, if
there's anything there. So I get out and I'm walking
around in the spot. Dave's ready to you know, leave.
I've got the door open, Dave's ready to get us
at the heck out of there. I get out and
I start looking and I can't find anything. And then
I kind of look off to my right a little more,
and all I can see is it looks like big

(02:15:22):
sort of trampled down grass patches that were, you know,
alternating like I can't even describe it, but just knock
down grass, like something gone through there. But for look,
all night, I couldn't figure out what the heck that was.
I still I can see it in my head, and
if I could draw, I would draw, but scared. We're

(02:15:45):
not scared the crap out of me. But it was like,
what was that? I've never seen anything like it before.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
Never kind of freaked you out.

Speaker 3 (02:15:55):
Just a bit.

Speaker 6 (02:15:56):
That whole Saturday was just like, I don't know, I'm
still not one hundred percent back straight in line with
after Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (02:16:07):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:16:08):
So we finally make our way to flight twenty one
to our base camp. We set up and there's just
this aura about the energy there that is just it's
a little off and we can't put a finger on it.
So prior to that we talked to Robin Haynes, who says, hey,
would you get to the gifting site, look at the

(02:16:29):
tree and look about thirty yards to your right there
should be an area there where they could be, and
then thirty yards beyond that. So we get to the
gifting site. Nothing's moved. We go that thirty yards and
it happens to be.

Speaker 6 (02:16:48):
The raven's feather had moved.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
Oh, pardon me, the raven's feather had moved. I had
put it in the tree the previous week and it
was now lying back in the exact fact same spot
where Lolly had put it. Now, unfortunately Lolly didn't make
it with us this past weekend, but hopefully she will
this coming weekend, and we decide to go into that

(02:17:12):
area thirty yards away to go check it on out.
We get into the meadow that's there. Happens to be
the same meadow where in twenty twenty three we heard
voices coming through. There were seven of us there, including
Tim Seenor and Merle and Samantha Mooween. And that's also

(02:17:35):
the area where we saw the glow stick being moved
and pulled down the tree. But something weird happened there.
I've never been in the middle of the forest when
all of the sudden it was like there was no
air and trying to take a breath of air was

(02:18:00):
it's not working. And as I'm going through this, I'm
thinking through my head, man, this mossy ground looks so
comfortable to just sit on and have a nap. And
at the exact same time, Tim, you're having through your
brain about the air. You're having troubles breathing, and you're
just thinking about grabbing a chair and having a nap

(02:18:21):
right there in the meadow.

Speaker 6 (02:18:23):
It would totally one hundred percent. And this is yeah,
this is no embellishment at all. It was yeah, my
brain just I'm looking around and it almost felt like
we'd had a heart really hard workout and you're coming
down off that workout. You're kind of like, whow Okay,
I could I just need to sit for a bit? Well,
we'd only we hadn't walked very far, but yeah, and yeah,

(02:18:46):
it was just like, ah, I could just lay down
here right now and just go to sleep. That's I
felt like that's what I wanted to do. They're yeah,
too weird man.

Speaker 1 (02:18:57):
Right, yeah, And then we so we get out of there,
and then Tim finds something there. You'll see that on
the video, which, of course you can watch all of
our videos on our YouTube channel under the section Secrets
of the Forest shameless plug there. But we go back
on a parallel trail to go to the thirty yards

(02:19:20):
beyond that meadow, and the air is great, everything is
is great. We get to that spot and all of
a sudden, it's like there's no air there again. Yeah,
two different spots thirty yards apart.

Speaker 6 (02:19:37):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (02:19:40):
It was a.

Speaker 6 (02:19:42):
Chilling eh. I guess it was just an outlttle It
was just a weird fricking night that like. And we
even came back and then David and I came back
to base camp and we had to sit down and rest,
like it was a let's just stop for a second.
David's I said, I'm in total agreement. We sat in

(02:20:02):
our lawn chairs and it was just like, oh, like
it felt like I'd walked up a hill two miles
like this and at a good pace. I just needed
to Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't get out of that
exhaustion funk. Well, it took me about ten minutes and
I was like, okay, feeling better now.

Speaker 1 (02:20:23):
And then we started hearing things kind of moving around us.
I'm just gonna say it. We didn't catch it on
tape because Tim was fiddling around, you know, both of
us were tired, trying to catch our breath. Yeah, and
then Tim started fiddling around with trying to get our

(02:20:44):
trail cam, going, yes, God is my witness. I don't
know what was back there, swear on my children's lives.
M It sounded like an animal or a sasquatch broke
wind absolutely ripped about a ten to fifteen second blast,

(02:21:13):
shall we say? Uh huh? And Tim and I are
looking at each other this think that this can't be real.

Speaker 9 (02:21:21):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
At Tim's like, was that a growl? I'm like, dude,
that wasn't a growl. That wasn't that wasn't grunting. It
wasn't a growl. It was literally something moose, bear or
sasquatch ripping it up. I don't know how much more

(02:21:43):
polite to put that. I never thought I would have
a conversation or be asking people over the last few days, Hey,
have you ever heard a sasquatch fart? Have you ever
heard a bear fart? Have you ever heard a moose fart?

Speaker 3 (02:21:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:22:00):
Yeah, And apparently sasquatches like to fart. That's what That's
what we got from a couple of people. I was like, what,
I've never heard of that?

Speaker 1 (02:22:11):
Now, this was probably what forty yards from us?

Speaker 3 (02:22:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
Safely, yeah, safely forty to fifty yards. So I don't
know how else to put that. It's just getting stupid there,
you know, when all of a sudden you have things
like that happening. I really and look, Tim and I
made an executive decision after that happened, okay, where we're

(02:22:43):
always going to have a camera running now, mm hmm, okay,
We're always going to have a camera running.

Speaker 7 (02:22:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:22:51):
There was a point where, you know, where it's just
two of us and Tim doesn't trust me with the
camera work, okay, and we had just taken a break.
But it's when we take a break, even with Lolly
a couple of weeks ago, with the tree knocking, the
violent tree knocking, we had taken a break and we

(02:23:11):
had decided going in we weren't filming, and then that happens,
and then almost in the exact same area, now we
get sasquatch picking up his leg and ripping one and
we're sitting there looking at this like we could have
caught that on camera. Rookie mistake. We're learning.

Speaker 6 (02:23:35):
We're brand new, Yeah we are, and it's and it's
so hard. I mean, I shouldn't say like it's difficult
to be to balance all of this at you know,
all at one time. Dave's doing one thing, I'm doing another,
We're getting the camera set up here, we're trying to
get the trail camp set up. It's just like ah,

(02:23:55):
at times, there's so much stuff going on and it
seems like we don't have enough hands.

Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
Right mm hmm. It was just one of the strangest things.
And then all of a sudden, as we got to
go to break here, it just felt like we needed
to go. We needed to get the heck out of there.
It didn't feel fearful, it didn't feel like we were
in danger, but both Tim and I were getting blasted

(02:24:25):
with this message that it's time to go, and it's
our shortest trip there only lasted about two hours, but
we'll break it all down on film coming up next
with Tim James. We got the UFO report. Stay tuned, everybody.

Speaker 6 (02:24:42):
This is based out radio and your voice n STUF.

Speaker 1 (02:25:09):
All right with clear mm hmmm that was so weird.

Speaker 6 (02:25:15):
Yeah, I'm telling you an honest straight up. I'm still
kind of off kilter from Saturday. I don't even know
why or what. I'm just like still kind of feels Yeah,
it just feels a little surreal.

Speaker 1 (02:25:35):
But yeah, you'll feel like I will. You'll feel confidence
in numbers.

Speaker 6 (02:25:40):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
Oh go back, yeah, this pat this weekend. The following
weekend when we go, we'll be feeling like totally like
almost like naked. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:25:56):
Yeah, yeah, I've got to. We'll put leon submissions. Okay, Lee,
we need you to go about ninety to one hundred
yards back into there.

Speaker 1 (02:26:07):
Lee will definitely be our sacrificial lamb.

Speaker 6 (02:26:14):
Welcome to Canada, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:26:16):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (02:26:19):
Yeah, it's going to be good. I'm glad that Lee's
coming up, and I'm glad that Merle's going to be
there as well. Actually, probably get some good tips from
Merle on filming. I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (02:26:37):
Oh, I think Merle will be all over it, dude.

Speaker 6 (02:26:39):
Mm hmm, I do too, right, going to be a
good time.

Speaker 3 (02:26:55):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (02:27:02):
It's it's Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:27:12):
Well we got here. We got about three minutes to
moth Man. How's the goatee?

Speaker 6 (02:27:23):
You'd see his Facebook post? He was hanging out back
behind Taco Bell. So I left him in a little
comment and I said, true to you know, contrary to
popular belief, that is not BSR studio.

Speaker 1 (02:27:37):
I'd like, I was in Kamloops yesterday and didn't even
go to Taco Bell.

Speaker 6 (02:27:41):
What the heck's wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (02:27:43):
Oh, just.

Speaker 1 (02:27:45):
Had some family crap come up, saw the picture. I
got the call at nine thirty in the morning, nine
o'clock in the morning, Dad, I need you to pick
me up in kamlon and drive me to Penticton.

Speaker 4 (02:28:02):
What.

Speaker 1 (02:28:06):
Yeah, no questions asked, don't need to talk about it.

Speaker 6 (02:28:12):
Let's go all right.

Speaker 1 (02:28:15):
I got home at midnight last night.

Speaker 6 (02:28:17):
Oh no way, it's a long day. Yeah, no, kid,
But I.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
Did manage to get two new pairs of dress shoes
for work. Oh so.

Speaker 6 (02:28:29):
That's cool. Yeah they are kind of cool. Nice, Yeah, nice,
m I think our forest fires are under control too.

Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
I don't think that forest fires in our way.

Speaker 6 (02:28:49):
No, no, no, there's three of them out there, and
they've had aircraft and stuff in there. And I heard
it on the news when I was coming home. It
didn't sound too bad. It sounds like they're kind of continued.

Speaker 1 (02:28:59):
I don't think it's gonna hurt us.

Speaker 6 (02:29:02):
I didn't even see the smoke this morning driving to work.

Speaker 1 (02:29:04):
Either, Deny, I went and looked for it. Yeah, me too, Yeah, yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:29:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:29:15):
That one is kind of more up towards Williams Lake,
is it not.

Speaker 6 (02:29:20):
Yeah, they're yeah, they're kind of one too, and then
down enterprise towards uh Dog Creek, but again not not huge,
and it sounds like they got all the crews in there,
So cross our fingers.

Speaker 1 (02:29:44):
Forty seven seconds mm hmm. Big thank you to Human
Carl Louis times too, mel WD forty and Kiddy Caddy
Whack for the great super chats. We greatly appreciate your
love and support. Remember you can join our YouTube our

(02:30:05):
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Speaker 6 (02:30:24):
Why Tim, because we have no ugly swag people, no
ugly swag.

Speaker 1 (02:30:29):
That's right, good point mm hm. And we got some
new stuff up there as well, so check it on out.
Here we go. Final half Hour is now underway on

(02:30:51):
spaced Out Radio. My name is Dave Scott. Greatly appreciate
you tuning us on in wherever you are on this
beautiful planet we call Earth. Hey. We want to remind
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(02:31:13):
We have a plethora of features for you. Rock out
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Space Travelers Club. Here's Tim James hanging on out with
us for the UFO Report. Let's get to some alien

(02:31:35):
stuff here, Tim, What do you got going on in
the world?

Speaker 6 (02:31:38):
Oh yeah, it seems to me that Ross Colhart got
called out by Moneypenny. I don't know if you've seen
that or you heard about it, but I know right
it was like what so? A former BBC journalist known
online as Moneypenny, issued a bold ultimatum to investigative reporter

(02:31:59):
Ross Coldheart, demanding he disclosed the location of a massive
UFO allegedly concealed beneath a high security facility. In a
video that swiftly gained traction within the UFO disclosure community,
Moneypenny gave coal Heart a three hour window to reveal
the site or provide a compelling national security reason to

(02:32:21):
withhold it, threatening to unveil her own findings if he
remained silent. So when Coldhart didn't respond, Moneypenny followed through,
asserting that the eight hundred foot triangular craft is hidden
under or sorry, is hidden at off Foot Air Force
Base in Nebraska, housed within a specially constructed building within

(02:32:44):
a building. The controversy traces back to cold heart earlier
claims first aired over two years ago that You on
the UFO podcast, where he described a UFO so enormous
that authorities built a structure over it to conceal its presence.
He stated the craft was located outside of the United States,

(02:33:05):
a detail that conflicts with Money Pennies Nebraska claim. So
cold Art's cryptic remarks, coupled with his refusal to defulge
specific specifics due to source protection and pass unlive threats,
have long fueled speculation. Moneypenny, leveraging her thirty year background

(02:33:26):
in financial technology, claimed that to have pieced together evidence
using AI tools despite their alleged resistance. Her findings pointed
to Offot Air Force Base, citing a twenty fifteen UFO
sighting report, anomalous budget increases for construction, and Google Earth

(02:33:48):
imagery that appeared altered to obscure the large structure. So
Money Pennies revelations stirred intense debate. Critics highlight the contradiction
with cold Heart's assertion that the craft lies abroad, while
supporters argue her findings suggests multiple such sites may exist globally.
The claim has amplified tensions within the UFO community, spotlighting

(02:34:10):
the delicate balance between transparency and the risk of exposing
sensitive military secrets. Coldheart had previously emphasized the gravity of
his silence, noting that disclosing locations could endanger lives and
that Congress has failed to act on detailed information provided
years ago, so money Penny's move has thrust the issue

(02:34:33):
into the public eye, compelling the UFO disclosure movement to
confront the ethics and consequences of revealing classified information. Whether
our cor allegations hold true or merely fan the flames
of speculation remains unresolved, but the confirmation has undeniably galvanized
the ongoing quest for answers now very quickly. Cold Heart

(02:34:57):
responded with the good old f U when she was
giving when she gave the uh the ultimatum, so Ross
didn't give out anything, and yeah, she went ahead with
her three hour deadline and figures it's in Nebraska somewhere.

Speaker 1 (02:35:17):
Here's my opinion of this, mm hmm. You know, everybody
likes a little piece of drama, absolutely, and I was like,
oh man, we got some juice happening here, right, and
I'm thirsty for some juice. And the more I thought

(02:35:39):
about it, the question is, how does how did she
find out about this?

Speaker 6 (02:35:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:35:47):
Okay, number one, but number two, she put Ross in
the really the only way he could save face. And
that's why Ross's f bomb towards this happened because as
a journalist, you're not going to be pressured by anybody

(02:36:08):
in the public, even if they get it right on
releasing where that is his sources told him in confidence. Now,
if Ross made a mistake on that, I would have
been I would have said the mistake was mentioning it
at all, because he put the pressure on himself. And so,

(02:36:29):
with this UFO community being, you know, so hungry for
morsels of information, the fact that Ross knew about this
and would never give it up, I can understand their frustration.
I can understand why they called him out on it.
Ross should have never ever Ross Coulthart, that is, should

(02:36:51):
have never ever let it go. No, okay, but he
decided to no understanding. Maybe it slipped out, Maybe it
was a Freudian slip, don't know sure. But he can't
come out and say, oh, by the way, this is
at off at Air Force Base in Nebraska. My sources
have told me this because he may accidentally out his sources.

(02:37:16):
And in the end, whether you like Ross or not,
the rule of thumb when it comes to journalis is
you don't burn your sources. You never do.

Speaker 3 (02:37:25):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:37:26):
I liked Ross's response. I know, right, okay, but he
brought it on himself unfortunately. Yeah, and I would think
even he would admit that. Sure, and she just seems
I mean I saw the video and and I don't know,
it was like, wow, nice attitude.

Speaker 6 (02:37:48):
I don't know. She seemed rather rather arrogant about the
whole thing. And it was like, really, we're why not
just bring it out. If you're going to say it,
say it.

Speaker 1 (02:37:56):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (02:37:56):
I'm'm not telling you not to do it. But the
way that you brought it up, it was like watching
the video, it was like, wow, wow, you you really
think you're something else. But that was my opinion about it.

Speaker 3 (02:38:07):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:38:08):
I like the way she brought it out, though, I
do well it was kind of leaning back. It was
a real Queen Bee move, and all the power to
her for it. I liked it. I really did like it.
Maybe I shouldn't, but the sadistic side of you was like, Okay,
I like this. Good for you, and it was amazing.

(02:38:28):
I don't think there's any losers in this. No, but
we got two winners out of it.

Speaker 6 (02:38:33):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Well, we'll see what develops out of that,
because I'm sure that that's not just going to fall
off the cliff and die. So I got a funny
feeling there'll be more talk about.

Speaker 3 (02:38:44):
It coming out.

Speaker 1 (02:38:45):
No kiddings. What else you got for us? My friend?

Speaker 6 (02:38:48):
Well, I guess five months ago after it's March twenty
twenty five debut at What Was It south By Southwest
The Age of Disclosure, a documentary entry claiming an eighty
year government cover up of extraterrestrial intelligence, remains unreleased on
major streaming platforms like Netflix and Amazon. So director are

(02:39:10):
directed by Dan Farra. The film featured interviews with thirty
four US government military and intelligence officer or official Excuse me,
and earned a B plus from critics for its compelling case.
Yet no official release date has surfaced, fueling speculation about
distribution delays or possible suppression. So the films self by

(02:39:33):
Southwest screening on the ninth and between the ninth and
the eleventh of March. Through strong audience reactions, with its
team hinting at ties to governments efforts to declassify UFO files,
A false February twenty twenty five release listing on Plex
was debunked, and the silence since has frustrated fans. Industry

(02:39:54):
experts say securing distribution for the films can take six
months or more complex negotiations blah blah blah, and the
filmmakers may be holding out for a lucrative deal to
recoup high production costs, possibly favoring the theatrical release. Amazon
is reportedly in talks, but nothing is confirmed, so online

(02:40:15):
forums buzzed with theories of government interference, with this citing
the film's claim or the film's claims of reverse engineered
daily and technology as a reason for the delays. Others
suggest legal disputes, possibly involving forward intelligence off official lou Elizondo,
though no evidence supports this. Viewer skepticism is growing, with

(02:40:38):
some dismissing the film as overhyped hearsay, lacking hard proof,
potentially or potentially complicating distribution deals. Public interest in the
UFOs in UFOs competes with everyday concerns like rising living costs,
which made damp demand. The film's four hour director's cut

(02:40:59):
was trimmed to an hour of forty nine minutes, cutting
content like former ciag and John Ramirez his interview on
four newap Encounters and nuclear baiting techniques. Fair has suggested
deleted scenes may appear as special features indicating a strategic
approach and financially the high bud high budget project requires

(02:41:21):
a strong marketing push With upcoming congressional UAPA hearings, the
film's relevance could peak if really soon enough. Historical cases
like Prince's delayed album in the nineteen eighties due to
label disputes suggests fan pressure could push the progress, but
without updates, the film risks fading. Experts estimate that sixty

(02:41:42):
to eighty percent and sixty to eighty percent chance of
a late twenty twenty five release if hurdles are cleared
and possibly amplified by alternative platforms. For now, the age
of disclosure remains in limbo, leaving audiences to wonder if
its absence is due to industry logistics or something more. So,

(02:42:04):
I dug a little bit deeper just and again they
see these aren't facts. But the scuttle Bud is is
the government does not want it released quite yet. There
are some negotiations that.

Speaker 1 (02:42:19):
Are going on.

Speaker 6 (02:42:20):
That was admitted. They're looking for, you know, whatever sponsors,
how whatever they do, they're looking for. They're looking to
get the deal done. But it's a lot of people
are saying that the government is going. I don't know yet.
I think that they've kind of they've kind of about
faced on it a bit, and I don't think that
they like everything that's contained in the movie. So and

(02:42:42):
apparently it was cleared before it was released. It south
by Southwest, So I'm not sure what's going on there.

Speaker 1 (02:42:50):
Well, you know what, that's the movie that Payton ever
end Ben it never got started, that's right, you know.
I mean, are they trying to make a movie or
they trying to make a documentary?

Speaker 6 (02:43:07):
That's my thing too, because I class myself. I class
that stuff differently. If I'm watching, even if it's on
a movie channel, if it's a documentary, it's not a movie.
It's a documentary to me. So I'm not sure. I'm
not sure. If yeah, if they're trying to make it
an entertaining thing, I think it'd be more of a
documentary realm in that realm anyway, I don't know. I'm

(02:43:31):
not a movie guy.

Speaker 1 (02:43:33):
No, I'm not a movie guy either. Not a movie guy.
By the way, did you hear louiel Asondo set up
a new bar for himself bombshell? Tell us about it?

Speaker 6 (02:43:46):
Oh my goodness. I just saw the photo and I
can't remember who there was, the mayor of the town
or something was cutting the ribbon in front of it,
and Lou looks like he's like lost about four hund pounds. Yeah,
I'm I'm just yeah. I didn't get really deep into it.
I just was like, really well.

Speaker 1 (02:44:07):
Next age courtesy of Nicole Sackitch, who messaged me with this.

Speaker 6 (02:44:11):
She didn't message me.

Speaker 1 (02:44:13):
Oh she likes me better, I know sometimes yeah. Sometimes
she did send me a picture of the menu here.

Speaker 6 (02:44:24):
Oh no way.

Speaker 1 (02:44:25):
So it's it's all pretty much military, uh, military food
and drinks and everything like the Bombshell Crush comikzie Lemonade,
Manhattan Project, Atomic pain Killer, Humphrey Bogart's Beginning of a

(02:44:47):
Beautiful Friendship. Oh yes, huh yeah. Some of the signage
is kind of weird, right, but they got the Roswell
nineteen forty seven drink, you know, so hey, he's having
fun with it.

Speaker 6 (02:45:03):
Sure, but you know, I think it's I think of
the sign out front sucks.

Speaker 1 (02:45:11):
I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (02:45:13):
Every letter is read red white blue, red white blue.
It's like a Christmas light string and it's hard to
read for me.

Speaker 1 (02:45:20):
Well, I mean, you have to remember you have to
remember our good American friends down there. They like their red,
white and blue. Not denying that at all.

Speaker 6 (02:45:30):
It's just hard for me to read. It looks stupid
the way he's done it. In my opinion, it is
kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:45:38):
What else you got for us? We got six minutes,
all right.

Speaker 6 (02:45:41):
So actually, on this date in nineteen sixty seven, in
the quiet farming village of Cuzak or Cusack in central France,
two siblings, Francois thirteen and his nine year old sister
Anne Marie, were tending to their family's cows on a
sunly plateau. The children noticed what they first assumed were

(02:46:03):
four other children playing behind a nearby hedge, But something
about them was wrong. The figures stood just over a
meter tall, their bodies entirely clad in glossy black, silk
like material that reflected the sunlight. Their heads appeared oddly proportioned,
and their faces were indistinct. The scene grew strangers still

(02:46:26):
when the children noticed, hovering a short distance away, a
perfect silver sphere roughly two meters in diameter. It was
so bright that its surface and detail were hard to
make out, as if it were reflecting more light than
it should before the siblings could process what they had seen,
one of the black clad figures seemed to lift off

(02:46:47):
the ground and enter the sphere, gliding into it headfirst.
The others followed in quick succession, except for one who
briefly distended against distended again to pick up a reflective
mirror like object from the grass before returning to the craft.
The sphere began to rotate in a spiral motion, producing

(02:47:09):
a soft whistling noise as it ascended rapidly into the sky.
In seconds, it had disappeared towards the northwest. The children
noticed a strange odor in the air, sharp and sulfurous,
and when they returned with their father, who happened to
be the village mayor, the smell was still there. The
grass in the area where the sphere had hovered appeared

(02:47:29):
scorched and dry, as though burned without flame. The father
contacted local gendermery immediately, basically a police department, so the
officers arrived to investigate, recording the children's statements in details
and confirming both the smell and the unusual condition of
the grass. Their findings were forwarded to the French government's

(02:47:51):
official UFO research program gepan Gay Penn or Gee Pen,
which kept the case in its files for decades before
releasing it to the public in two thousand and seven.
Independent UFO researchers, including Joel Messnard, Claude Pavy, and Fernand Legarde,
also studied the case extensively, publishing articles that highlighted the

(02:48:15):
children's consistency over time and the physical traces left behind.
Skeptics later floated the possibility that the witnesses had seen
a helicopter and its crew, perhaps during a military exercise,
but this explanation was dismissed by GPAN as incompatible with
the report and the humanoid figures, the order of sulfur,
and the craft's rapid spiral ascent. To this day, the

(02:48:38):
Cusack incident remains officially unexplained, and the two young witnesses
never sought publicity or profit, and their testimony, along with
corroborating physical evidence, has kept the case alive in UFO
research circles as one of France's most enigmatic close encounters.
Both children now adults have been asked for interviews and

(02:49:02):
asked to expand more on it, and they do not
want to talk about it, and so their only witnesses
to it. Don't want to say nothing more.

Speaker 1 (02:49:14):
Wow, how do you feel if that happened to you?

Speaker 6 (02:49:19):
How would I feel?

Speaker 3 (02:49:20):
YEA at that age?

Speaker 6 (02:49:23):
I well, at any age, But I think as a
thirteen year old, I would probably I don't know, be
scared to death and mess my pats I think, you know,
especially and I think i'd be worried about my little
sister too. But yeah, being a young kid like that
and seeing that running around in the field, Yeah, I

(02:49:46):
don't think i'd be too cool with it.

Speaker 1 (02:49:48):
You Oh, you know, I'm sure there would be a
couple of pairs of short soiled. But that's just the
way it happens, you know. Sometimes you don't have a choice.
Sometimes don't have a you know, the ability to control oneself.

Speaker 3 (02:50:04):
M M.

Speaker 6 (02:50:06):
For sure. No, I don't know. And those ones are
the ones that kind of get me. And it's cool
because I like France. I even got to go look
it up on their website. If you go to their
Francis UFO website, you can actually look it up. They'll
tell you how they how they researched it, any pictures,

(02:50:27):
the location, the trees that the aliens were playing around
the hedges they were hind and behind. It's all there
for anybody to go look it up. They're they're fantastic
cataloging and stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:50:40):
Well, my friend, we got about a minute and a
half to go here before we have to say good night.
All I gotta say is this, when you have a
close encounter experience with a with an emaciated deer with
rabbit ears on it, you know that's just not something
that's conducive to our forest dwellers.

Speaker 6 (02:51:01):
New new and too freaky. Like I said, I wish
I could draw it, because yeah, just wow, totally different.
I've never seen anything like it. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:51:16):
I wonder if it was related to those weird cows
that I saw.

Speaker 6 (02:51:20):
Well, it was right in that area too, So I'm
wondering the same thing. If it's like some sort of
you know, logging road crossing for cryptids or I don't
know it could be. But all I know is I, yeah,
I hope not to see that. Well I shouldn't say that,
I just hope I don't have a close encounter with

(02:51:41):
something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:51:43):
Well, once again, next time we hear bigfoot bum burp
in the forest, we'll make sure we're rolling for you.
That's for sure, Yes, for sure, Oh my gosh, I
don't even know how else that man, I really don't hope.
Oh my goodness, Tim, thank you for coming on the

(02:52:06):
UFO Report. Another great report by you. We'll talk to
Tim a couple of nights time as we say good
night to the one hundred and fifty year old reporter
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