Aug. 13/25 - Science Bob & Friends - Spaced Out Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
spaced Out Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott as
we prepare for another edition of Science Bob and Friends
with doctor Bob McGuire. We are in roll call on
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
This is weird.

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Speaker 1 (01:39):
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We have an amazing show for you tonight. Science Bob

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is here, Doctor Bob McGuire with his monthly visit into
spaced Out Radio Land, where we talk about who, what, where, we,
why and how of all things paranormal and supernatural. Then
in nour number three swamp Dweller, we'll kick things off.
We're gonna follow that up by Little Timmy James from
his home studio joining us for the UFO Report. Yes,

(03:05):
it is that time of the month where our residence
scientist doctor Bob McGuire, formerly of Virginia Tech University, has
joined us for another edition of Science Bob and Friends. Now,
Science Bob has quite a resume. He's got his name
on over twenty satellites in space. He's taught scientists from
around the world on everything from mathematics to applied physics

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and everything in between. He's been a spy for the CIA,
He's been a part of the NRO, he's part of
the SCU. He's a UFO guy, and now in his
retired years, he still gets the itch to get back
into the game to figure out what is going on
with this UFO story. He is all over social media.
You can find him. Just type in Bob McGuire and

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he'll be right there. But right now, he'll be right here,
Science Bob. It is always a pleasure to have you
on spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
How you doing, my friend A super duper I hope
everybody in the audience is feeling good. It's a good
night to talk about UFOs.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It really is a good night to talk about UFOs.
But I want to talk about something else right off
the bat here, but before we do that, for people
listening for the first time, learning about who's this science
Bob guy. Look, science Bob is a nickname. You're really
doctor Robert Maguire. You have a resume that probably you know,
is longer than any floor length that you have in

(04:29):
your kitchen. You've been there, done that, You've seen it,
You've done it all. Tell us a little bit about
your background.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Wow, Okay, So I was born in Alabama. I'ming in Tennessee.
Moved to Alabama when I was one, went to school
through senior year at a tiny little school in Clark County, Alabama,
where I graduated with one hundred and nine people. And
then but I had great teachers, and I went from

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there and took off and did math and engineering and
he went to work at Sandia National Labs and figured
out I needed a doctorate, got our doctorate from Brown University,
went to work for the intelligence community, stayed there for
three decades. After that, I joined the faculty at Virginia Tech,

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teaching scientists and engineers and mathematicians how to work for
the intelligence community and DoD and started two companies, So
I've had a full life.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
You've also played around on the dark side of the government.
You know, a lot of it you cannot talk about
because your name is attached to a plethora of NDAs
and everything like that. But you found your way into
the UFO field.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
How well, that was really interesting. So I when I
was helping young people do technical work for the classified government.
I still have all my classified connections and very high
level clearance and a secure facility at Virginia Tech. So

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people just remembered me and talked to me and told
me stuff. And I kept hearing about this UFO stuff
popping up all over the place because people wanted me
to talk to them about the technical stuff behind it.
And I saw a few pictures and went wow. So
I got into following. Given that I was lived in

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the National security state most of my adult life, I
wanted to learn about UFOs and the national security state.
So boom, that's Richard Dolan. So I joined Richard Dolan's bunch,
read his books, started working for him, and maintained his
forum and so forth, and it just took off. And

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while I was doing that, I saw him interview Chris
bledsoe four hours and after that I reached out to Chris.
Chris let me come over to visit him and we
had wow if we have experiences, and they followed me
home and I've had them ever since.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's because of you that I'm on the radar. I
still love that story, Bob. And when I say on
the radar, I'm saying that people investigating who I was
all because of you and my relationship with you. It
was after you.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
So foreign nationals, even Canadians, they're a suspect. So if
I have a foreign national friend, I have to tell
security people who my foreign national friend is. So I
told Dave we could be friends and keep doing science Bob,
but he had to have me to all the people

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inside the spook world who he was when they would
check into it, and he went go ahead. And that
was shortly after we met at UFO con in twenty twenty,
where he gave me the name science Bob.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's right, and it's stuck ever since. You Know what
I think is funny is everybody in the UFO world
he calls you science Bob.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, that's my name.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I think it's great.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I don't think most of them even remember my last name.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Nobody does your Science Bob, that's all that matters, you know,
that's all that matters. No, that's true. I remember that
phone call because you actually scared the daylights out of
me because I thought I'd screwed up. I really did.
And You're like, Dave, we have to have a serious conversation.
And after this conversation, you may never want to talk
to me again. And I went, oh God, what did

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I say? What did I do it? I'm trying to
run through the old Rolodex to figure it out. And
then Science Bob says, you know who I work for?
And I said, yes, well, they see my phone bill
and they want to know why I've been communicating multiple
times a week with a foreign national, this Canadian in

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the middle of nowhere, British Columbia. So Science Bob says
to me, I'm going to give you the choice. You
can either give me your personal information so that way
they can check you out and clear you, or we
can remain friends, but we can no longer speak on

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these topics ever again. And selfishly, I said, does this
mean there's going to be a one page dossier of
me the Pentagon after this and he's like, yes, yes,
there will be. I went, I'm in, I'm in. I'm
totally in on this. So thank you Science Bob for

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getting me into the Pentagon. I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Well that look that's better than my file. My files
a foot thick.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh, I bet, I bet. Now let's get to the
question that I wanted to ask you. Okay, I really
need a scientific opinion on this. And I was talking
to little Timmy James before the show regarding this situation
that you and I had kind of briefly chatted about

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last week when we were in the forest. Bob, we
followed Robin Haynes's lead, you know, right beforehand she said,
I want you to look at your gifting tree, and
she goes, I'm picking them up about thirty yards to
your right. So we go about and then she says,
pardon me. Then she says, after that, another thirty yards in,

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there's more that are in that area. So we end
up going to that area thirty yards away. Lo and behold, Bob,
it is the same little mini Mennow where in twenty
twenty three, Samantha Poet Merle, myself, Tim Seinoor, and our

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camera crew actually had an experience in this metal with
meadow with paranormal activity. Now, this meadow is not very big.
It's maybe forty feet by forty feet. Okay, I don't
even know if you could call it a meadow, maybe
a grassy area or whatever, mossy area. But Bob, we

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couldn't breathe. It was like there was a lack of
oxygen in the middle of a forest, which doesn't make
sense because trees produce oxygen. Okay. And then we ended
up leaving that area. We got about twenty feet out
of that area, and all of a sudden, the air
was fine. We could totally breathe again. We walked a

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parallel trail, walked past this little meadow and walked beyond
it another thirty yards. Like Robin said, we get to
that thirty yard mark, I guess we can't breathe again.
How does this happen in the middle of a forest? Bob,
you're scientific, you know this stuff.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Can't think of any science.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
That I can think of that would allow the atmosphere
in an area to be deprived of oxygen without something
obvious doing it. So, ah, dude, you ran into a
weird place. Maybe it's a portal where the Bigfoot come

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and go, and they don't have much oxygen or they
have a high whatever content, and you found it hard
to breathe or you felt you couldn't breathe. Did you
get lightheaded?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
No, I'll be honest with you. You know what, do
you remember that moment in the movie Wizard of Oz
when Dorothy and the Lion and the tin men and
the Scarecrow they start running through the poppy field, Uh,
and they all of a sudden feel tired and just
want to have a nap. Yeah, that's what it felt like.

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And the weird about it.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
I mean, there's no there's NonStop stories of the non
human intelligence phenomenon putting people the sleepish. Maybe that's what
they were trying to do.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I really don't know. It was an uncomfortable feeling, though
science Bob.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh, I've bet it was a little bit frightening.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well considering when Tim all of a sudden turns his
back in the meadow and he goes, you gotta be
kidding me, And here we were literally and you'll see
it on camera when when this show gets downloaded Secrets
of the Forest in about two weeks time, you'll you'll
actually see it where we're standing literally less than five

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feet from what could be the possible start of a
tree structure, and we didn't even see it until Tim
noticed it and pointed it out on camera.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh, I can't wait to see the tree structure. How
intricate was it?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Not? Very It was like the start of one. It
was like the start of one where you could see
the bedded area. You could see a tree that was
bent over to make a cover that shouldn't have been
bent over because there was nothing holding it down except
a tree that a smaller tree that was lodged to

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kind of tighten it up. It was very, very odd,
very odd.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, that's what well. I mean, look the handful of
serious videos I've seen. The feeling I get is when
you see those tree structures, except the really or an
eight ones, they just look like things that are just
put together, but they don't look natural. They're just enough

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structure to them that they don't look natural. And it's
just or you get a feeling or whatever. It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I just want to dress something in our chat room
because in the studio is like no pictures. I'm going
to tell you right now, as an extremely amateur researcher.
I'm more of an enthusiast than a researcher. I don't
call myself a researcher. I hate calling myself a researcher
because I feel like a fraud. I'm not like one

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of these people in the UFO or paranormal world who
self titles themselves just because they think they're a journalist.
It Bob, you know who I'm talking about there, right,
Oh yeah, I don't consider myself a researcher, even though
we're doing a research project. I forget, as stupid as

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that sounds, I forget to take photos. Tim's the camera guy.
Tim is capturing everything. So if you want to see
the structure you'll have to wait for the video for
two weeks. Okay, you'll have to. There's there is no choice.
And I have the stupidity of always forgetting to take

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a photo. I don't know why it's a mental block,
but I do. I have to be better at that,
because you know what, it kind of helps. It kind
of helps. It's just like I should be filming videos
out there for our YouTube channel and our TikTok and
everything like that, and I forget, totally forget I'm just

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too into it, into it.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, and we get to see and stuff and lots
of time we just forget.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
You got that, right, you got it.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
I had the most perfect triangle cramped fly over our
house and I screwed up my night vision camera and
didn't get the video.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Ouch.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
That hurt still hurts.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I bet it does. I bet it does, so, Bob,
going back into the trees there for a second, you
can't think of anything scientific that would cause air to
all of a sudden feel like it's no longer in
our lungs.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Nothing, because that place has got to be in thermodynamic equilibrium.
It's in the middle of nowhere, so it's it's just
impossible to figure it out if something is doing it
that is not natural.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
H Lots going on in the UFO world, Bob. We
got about six minutes to go before we, you know,
say good night to this first half hour of the show,
because it's flying on by already. Anna Paulina Luna, representative
of the and head of the Conspiracy Club. I know
they got an actual real name, but it's so much

(18:16):
more fun calling get the Conspiracy Club. She goes on
Joe Rogan earlier and if you haven't heard this Joe
Rogan portion. It's literally the first it's literally the first
fifteen minutes of the show where she just jumps right
into this whole UFO slash UAP debacle and some of

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the things that she was saying, Bob, you know, if
you're not a where's the proof kind of guy or
a trust me bro kind of person, she was saying
quite a bit.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
I'm sure she's.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Making Zodiac pretty unhappy.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
What is Zodiac?

Speaker 4 (19:03):
That's what MJ twelve is called.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now, how did you learn that?

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Low friends in high places?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You're being very cryptic? Yep, well, she went on, so
I her.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Look, people, people, there was a space on X run
by Missileman, and Missileman had a guest and he is
recovering the audio recording for that space and we'll post it.
People should listen to that because they go into Zodiac

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in detail. Whenever it comes up, just look for Missileman
on X. He had a space with Richard Dell, who
he and his father were doing weird stuff for the
government for a long time until he claims they murdered

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his mother and father and tried to kill him.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Hmmm.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Doctors never could figure out why his father died the
way he did. Never figured it out. It looked like
mad cal disease. But it happened in three weeks, not
six months.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Luna went off on the Joe Rogan podcast okay about
you know, even going as far basically there's only rule,
so you're told never to vote down a rule and
never vote against your party, and she's broken those And
then she talks about a lot about UFOs and the

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secrecy behind it, basically saying that there is almost without
basically saying it, she said there's like a secret shadow
government there that's calling the shots on this, that she
has seen photographic evidence that proves to her, and she
can't talk about the photos because she was shown them
in a skiff, that there is no way that she

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could talk about it publicly, but she did state that
these photos gave her more than ample proof to see
that this wasn't man made technology and that it is
from elsewhere. Your thoughts, well.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I saw photos like that in a couple of videos,
and then I had my own personal experiences twice with
the Navy, and I can just tell you this stuff
is real and our government's flying to us?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Is it the government? That's lying, Bob, or is it
certain sectors of the government.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Look, there is a cabal, but they are in charge
of our government's interactions and behavior, and they tell people
way up high that they can't be rid into it
and talk to about it because it's too dangerous and
two secret to whatever. I'm just telling you, it's what

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and I would love to see this secrecy in to
the extent it doesn't actually harm national security in a
way that you and I would agree as national security.
I don't want them doing it to cover people's butts.
I want them to do it because it would harm
us directly, our national security directly to be told to

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then they don't have to do that.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Show us, show us a craft, show us a body,
show us what you can to keep the secret self secret.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
One of the things that she says, and you and
I really haven't got into this before, but I'm going
to go down this road here and we're probably going
to have to carry this over into the next half hour,
so maybe a little bit of food for thought before
we go to break here. One of the things that
she stated was that she believes that these are interdimensional

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beings that have the power to basically bend the time
space continuum if you go back to back to the future,
and Doc basically telling Marty that that's how we figured
out time travel. But then she goes into another mark
on that, which is the religious connotation of it all.

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Now she self describes herself as a Christian, which is fine,
everybody has their own beliefs. But she said that there
is something about this that is very, very how can
you put it? I'm going to use the word magical

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of what is going on that ties to many religions
in a lot of the books that are not in
the current Bible. I want to get into that with
you when we return on spaced Out Radio, Science Bob
and Friends with Doctor Bob Maguire here on spaced Out Radio.
We love it when Science Bob is here. He always
brings it each and every month. On the Mighty Sore.

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That bloody heartburn from this pizza's just driving me crazy
right now.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
I'm sorry you don't have any tombs.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I got them upstairs because you know they're gonna help
me when they're upstairs. Broken Shadow Feather, how are you? Jeff?
Steve Garvey is here. He'll hit a home run for you.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
Do.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
We'll take questions an hour or two. Guys, I might
have to do the unthinkable and actually have a glass
of milk. Oh, I can't stand milk. There you go,

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Jeremy Jones. I think it's been beating up a little
bit more than just that many times. Gizmo, how are you.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
And Jeremy. We're getting sick of beating it. We want
some truth.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Mm hmm. By the way, a big happy birthday to
Michelle Ilis. I'm gonna singer a song right now, Bobby ready,
let's go. Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Birthday, miss.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Happy birthday to you and many Oh yeah, congrats Michelle,
Happy birthday, my beautiful friend Sherry Diane. How are you tonight?
Pineapple belongs on Pizza Monica. It's good. It's the tomato

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sauce that gets me.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
And she gave us a super chat on her birthday.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I know, very kind of her, very kind of her.
There is a rumor that her husband, Steve, is retiring
from professional wrestling.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
By the way, I have a note here that was
left on my desk, and it was put there a
couple days ago. Michelle, that's right.

Speaker 8 (27:50):
Here.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Okay, I'm just going to read it verbatim. I don't
know who put this there. I'm just gonna read it. Remember,
it's not my fault. Okay, it's not my fault. It says,
of course, the Navajo Warrior is retiring before the most

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deadly match he could have ever been in with El Lovney,
Volador and El Fantasmo. The Yellowbelly is leaving the business
because he can't handle the fact that we would beat
the tarnation out of him in the squared circle. He

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is lucky that he has never had to deal with
us in the wrestling ring. We would have made him
cry and beg for mercy if he had stepped in
the ring with us signed El Lovney, Volador and El Fantasmo.

(28:55):
Now that's a bullshit letter right there. I mean, I
can't believe that I found that on my desk. Okay,
I can't believe I found that on my desk, But
there it was. I thought I would pass it over
to you guys. Sorry, don't shoot the messenger. Don't shoot
the messenger. It wasn't me. I didn't write it. Those

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two idiots did. Okay. Personally, I think Navajo Warrior could
crush them in less than forty seconds, but those guys
are just horrible. Thank you tonight to Dutch, Hank, Michelle,

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Science Bob and Kat Chaser for the wonderful super chats.
It's a great way to support what we do on
this show on a nightly basis. Good morning, Ian mcphadon,
Good morning to you.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
All right, she's bribing you go in the ring.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
One sex Science Bob. Here we go, Here we go

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with the second half hour spaced Out Radio tonight. My
name is Dave Scott. Thank you for tuning us in
as we got Science Bob on the hot seat to
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Doctor Bob McGuire we call him Science Bob around these parts,

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hanging on out with us for the who, what, where, when, why,
and how of everything strange and absurd in this world
that we love to live in. Science Bob, how are
you one second? Hear? There we go?

Speaker 4 (31:38):
There we go. I couldn't find my cursor. I would
have done it. So I'm doing great today, And thank
you Michelle again for your generosity.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
And I love Dave's Navajo Warrior shirt.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
It is pretty awesome. It is pretty awesome. Yes, wrestling
legend Navajo Warrior retiring. He is a fan of this
show along with his beautiful wife Michelle, who's celebrating a
birthday today, So happy birthday to you, all right. Right
before the break, we were talking about Anna Paulina Luna
basically going off on the UFO story on the Joe

(32:14):
Rogan Experience, largest podcast in the world, and she was very,
very adamant that she believes that she has seen enough
evidence to believe that there is something out there that
we cannot control. But she took it down a different
turn that I didn't expect to. It included the missing
chapters in the Bible, especially the Book of Enoch, where

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they are believing or many are believing that this does
have some sort of tie to something very religious. Bob. Now,
science and religion.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Usually do not call the Book of the Watchers.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm sorry you cut me off.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, especially the part called Book of the Watchers.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
So what is your old we're all theory on that,
because that seems to be a part of the subject
that the UFO world has really hasn't delved into.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
It's a little it's a little odd that the Catholic Church,
or the original the nineteen Council decided not to include
the Book of Enoch because and I'm sure it's because
it has the Book of the Watchers in it in
which to talk about the sons of God came down
and intermarried or had children with the women of humans,

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and they gave birth to offspring which are called nephelo.
And so I'm sure that's why they didn't want to
include it. But what it sounds to me like is
non human intelligence flew down in our UFO and made hybrids.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
She seems very as a self proclaimed Christian, concerned about
this part of the UFO story that she doesn't believe
humanity would be ready to hear all of that because
Rogan did ask why not just tell us, why not
just let it out? Why is that going to hurt?

Speaker 4 (34:19):
I don't understand it either. Look, I mean my father
was a minister. I've been a Christian all my life
and doesn't bother me a bit. I don't believe a
believer in Jesus Christ would allow someone to limit what

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God can do. That's sacrilegious.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's an uncomfortable portion of the conversation. It is because
you've always we've always been taught that, you know, science
and religion do not mix. It's like oil and water.
And here, basically what she is saying is that many
people within the government community regarding this subject actually have

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some sort of belief that the two do mix.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Bob, Well, look, I don't claim anybody has it all correct.
I believe the stories in the Bible are great. I
love the teachings of Jesus, but I don't believe all
the versions of all of that that have been written

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and are now constitute the Bible are all perfect. And
then the reason you know they're not perfect is there
are different passages and different sections that contradict each other directly.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
So you've got to realize is the.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Best interpretation the authors of that time could make of
the things they were taught, it observed.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Do you believe then that this is something that maybe
every government religion fears, is that type of truth coming out.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
I don't understand. Look, it's not. Let me take it's illogical.
Why is it illogical? Let's take the New Testament's true
beginning to end. What does it tell you. It tells
you that Mary gave birth to a hybrid from a
non human intelligence spirit making her pregnant. That's how she

(36:40):
got a virgin birth. I mean, it just makes no
sense to me for anyone to say it's just not
possible when they believe it was done.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
It really is crazy, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yep? I think the Catholic Church is coming to a realization.
So anybody that's heard din of Wallspasalka speak on her
her research areas in public, Well, she's been given unfettered

(37:18):
access to the Vatican archives, and she tells fut stories
as the internal version of Saint Francis of Assisi, which
is very different from the told everyone else version. The
internal version is a craft came down shot him full

(37:40):
of beams, bored holes in him with a ray gun
and let him die in a few weeks from radiation
poisoning or something like that, right out of her mouth
after having read the actual original documents. So the church
is responsible for a lot of the cover up and

(38:02):
they have to know that that is.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
It is kind of scary though, you know, on why
many religious communities And I don't want to go off
on a religious bashing course because it's easy to get
into that, but I want to have a discussion about
this with you, Bob, albeit a brief one. It is amazing, though,
how many in the religious communities if this is indeed

(38:28):
tied to religion or God or any sort of consciousness,
higher power, whatever you want to call it. It's up
to you if it is tied. I mean, this is
something that every religion on the world then has been
duping people, potentially allegedly, okay, in what to believe in

(38:53):
one not to believe, because if you look at almost
every major religion in the world, anything that comes from
the sky, the stars or whatever is demonic.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
Yeah, it's just makes no sense to me. I think the.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Way to Live parts of the Bible are very good.
The actual written parts about what interacted with us is
the best they could do.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Well. It is interesting. I want to talk about something
else that she mentioned here too, in regards to the
aliens themselves Nhi, whatever fancy term you want to use today,
she says, they call them interdimensional beings. I think that
they can actually operate through the time spaces that we

(39:47):
currently have. And that's not something that I came up
with on my own. That's based on stuff that we
have seen. That's based on information that we have been
told we as being the Conspiracy Club and the skiffs.
What do you know about this?

Speaker 4 (40:04):
There's a lot of stuff that gets passed around inside
that you know still classified. But I've seen some evidence
of this stuff. And I'm on the outside now and
have been since twenty twenty and it so I haven't
kept up with what's known inside because they can't legally

(40:26):
tell me. But I mean I saw enough to know
that we know a lot more than that we are
letting on and they're afraid to just they're afraid of
upsetting people.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
What is the fear in your opinion.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Let's just take the Power Party in Power.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
The GOP is a religious party. Given its donors and
some of them are they would not tolerate these stories
about that we are now discussing. They would be against
it because it's not the doctrine of their beliefs, and

(41:13):
they support the people who make the laws and run
the government, and so they don't want to offend.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Them either way. It got many people talking about UFOs.
When Anna Polina's Luna speaks, many people like to listen.
You know, she could you know. One of the things
that she also stated was that she wants to be

(41:41):
able to tell the people the people have the right,
but she doesn't know when that time will be able
to come out. What's your thoughts on this?

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Okay, So we know that Axelrod called together a group
of people in Arlington, where Hal put Off and a
bunch of other people we know attended, and they discussed
all of this from every angle to decide whether or

(42:14):
not they could recommend to the government to start bringing
all this stuff out. And they spent two days studying
the problem, broke into teams. Each of the teams did
it up and or down and wrote down why up
or why down? Every team said you can't bring it

(42:36):
out yet. And so we don't know the content they
were shown, but we know that that from how put
off telling us this story that they voted no, and
so the government has continued to follow their lead.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
All right, let's move on to an other topic. Sticking
with Anna Paolina Luna. She has obviously been very vocal
since the last hearings that she was very disappointed in
what she called people skipping the opportunity to speak because
of the skiff flu. It's something that she has never

(43:18):
ever let go of, which I think is kind of cool,
you know. And in regards to the skiff flu, for
people who are wondering what it is, that's where a
number of people and it's mainly aimed at louell Asondo
and David Grush were called to speak into a skiff
with many members of Congress and other people to talk

(43:40):
about what they know and who they know and what
they know regarding UFOs in a skiff box. Bob, before
I continue with this, have you ever in your career
and intelligence ever had to use a skiff?

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Yeah, every day of my life life for three decades.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Okay, So explain to people what a skiff is of
what it's like in there.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Okay, it's a secure Classified Information Facility SCIF is the
acronym you make from that, and it's where you can
talk about classified programs and read classified documents and have
classified conversations. And the deal with a skiff is it's cleared,

(44:31):
but you and the internal may not be cleared and
read into a topic that you want to discuss. So
the skiff is cleared, then it has to be certified
by the classification officer who controls the classified material for

(44:54):
the program you want to work on and discussed, and
then your name has to be sworn in with a
nondisclosure agreement into what is called a bigot list to
be able to talk about that in the skiff that
has been added to the clearance for that program. And
it's just a very convoluted, crazy thing that the government

(45:19):
does to try to keep secret stuff secret.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Okay, so being in one of these, why would somebody
go in one of these what constitutes a conversation in
a skiff?

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Okay, you want to talk about a specific classified program
or classified document or classified material, you are required it's
not you want to, you are required to go into
an approved skiff to discuss it. And so then you

(45:53):
and whoever goes with you has to be cleared and
give a knee need to know for the topic you're
going to discuss. That means all the way back to
the lawyer who's in charge of the classification has to
say it's okay for the two of you to talk.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
It's that convoluted.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
What kind of conversations happen in one of these.

Speaker 10 (46:19):
You discuss technical details, operational details, discuss intelligence that's been
gathered that that is impactful on the things you're working on.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
You are allowed to see the classified material on the
project you're working on and to discuss it with others.
That are so clear.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Okay. So one of the things that she was discussing
about this was the fact that she believes that many
of these UFO people like David Grush. Because I'm I'm
trying not to use the term whistleblowers anymore, so these.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Rust David Grush is one, but most of the others
are not.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
So you threw me off there for a second.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Yeah, look, they are, they are telling a story. But
official blower in the capacity you're using, is an official
term of government in law. You have to meet certain
criteria to be called a whistle blower and given protection.

(47:33):
There's legal statutes that govern it somebody just blows the
whistle and tells everybody's stuff has been called a whistle
blower to the government. That is not a whistle blower.
That's an illegal dump of classified information.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Okay, So getting to this point, she was very upset
with people like Elizondo and Grush missing this important skiff
meeting that they were invited to and elisonder. Elizondo responded, today,
I don't know if you saw this.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
I didn't see it, but I'm just telling you I
don't even need to be told what he said. She
is wrong, and the reason she is wrong is they
have signed non disclosure agreements and they know from talking
to their lawyers that nothing that has been done to

(48:28):
date allows them to leave the confines of that non
disclosure agreement. And so they're not going to go to
jail just to make her happy.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Elizondo states, after several visits to DC, and he posted
this on x at the request of members of Congress
at my own expense, we were given cancelations at the
last minute. After coming back home again, I made it
clear the last time that I had a pre existing commitment.
I was given three days notice and no guarantees. While

(49:01):
having committed to speak in Oregon publicly available. Luna knows
the truth and we have the emails to prove it.
I will chalk this up to her not being informed
by her staff and an innocent mistake. I hope. Otherwise,
let this be a lesson to future whistleblowers who want
congressional protections. This is all about media attention and less

(49:25):
about truth. I hope this is not the case, and
I suspect Chris Mellan and others at auap DF that
you know the truth.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Pardon me UAP Disclosure fond.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
That know the truth may have more to say about this,
tagged at Chris K. Mellon, at Joe Rogan at real Annapoluna,
and then he posted an email saying good afternoon. I said,
I sincerely apologize for the late notice, but due to
the ever flux in congressional schedule and some conflicts, we

(50:05):
need to shift the non governmental briefing to the week
of May twelfth. We will reach back out with a
new date that will hopefully work for everyone. Looking forward
to seeing you all on Thursday, Best Mitch. Then someone
named Guthrie Dylan or Dylan Guthrie sent that from to
Mitchell and listed the names that were supposed to be

(50:25):
on there Mitchell, Benzene, Christian William, Jim Balay, Kyle McKay,
Jake Greenberg, Clark Aberisk, David Grush. And then at the essay,
this email was NC SEED, SAA House Security Office, Olivia
Hill that we sell the Zondo Chris Mellen, Eric Davis,

(50:46):
Tim Galladet.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Well, there's got to be more of a response than yep.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Well, what can I say is they the people that
don't live in the classified world every day for their job.
They can't be expected to remember every detail. And Luna
and a bunch of these other people just do not

(51:25):
stand the interlocking set of constraints all these people have
on them, and they want to hear, and they can't
be told by people who don't want to go to
jail for telling them, I mean something, telling you this
is horrible. But the Congress won't pass the law that

(51:45):
makes them able to They have not passed a law
that clears them to talk.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Which is a little weird because after this, David Gresh
became an advisor to Tim bur Listen.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah, I mean he can talk to Tim in the
Privacy's office and say unclassified things that he's been told
not to talk about to Tim because Tim pays his salary.
That's a standard thing for staffers to tell their congress
coutor stuff. He can go into a skiff and talk

(52:26):
about those things for which he has perceived okay from
the classification officer to talk about.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Basically, it just seems like a giant he said, she
said argument.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
On the outside. It is on the oh by these
people that have the secrets, they're protecting their livelihoods and
there and living up to their oaths. People just cannot
expect these people to go to jail to satisfy their curiosity.

(53:07):
They got to grow up.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
So if that's the case, which I believe it is, okay,
it really shows a real lack of communication between both sides,
or it shows the absolute inability for anybody to actually
be able to talk about whatever the truth is.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
No president has wanted this stuff to come out, or
it would happen instantly.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
A president is the final.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Authority, and the president can say it's okay for the
purposes of this discussion for the time they're in the skiff,
this is unclassified, put it down and write it, and
he can tell everything he wants if the President of
the United States would okay, But they want control of

(54:02):
all this secrecy to the level they are allowed in
the National Security Council. But they can make it happen
instantaneously if they want. The president is the final classifying
authority period.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
When we return with Science Bob here, Doctor Bob McGuire
on Science Bob and Friends in hour two, we're going
to get into a couple of big topics. What are those, Well,
let's tell you here momentarily. How about potential new hearings.
How about Gary Nolan confirming analysis of non Earth material

(54:45):
arrow and the Schumer reintroduction of UAP Disclosure Act on
spaced out radio?

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Speaker 4 (55:16):
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Speaker 5 (55:47):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
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Do you want to stay on camera and chat with
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Speaker 4 (55:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Kay, be right back. You guys chat with science.

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Speaker 5 (58:03):
Thanks you.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Jeremy money Penny is a former BBC correspondent. She's fairly
well known in England, but she is very opinionated as inquitible.

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I don't think we know all their motives. We don't
know what they're all about, and until the secrecy ends,
we're not likely to find out. Hey, j Co seventy seven.

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I've had a regression and it was good for me.
I don't claim it's good for everybody, but mine was
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thank you so much for being here tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Very happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
We're glad you are here as well. Chuck Schumer making
some news he's going to now that Mike Turner is
no longer the leader of the Gang of Eight. Chuck
Schumer thinks this is probably the best time ever to
be able to pass again the UAP Disclosure Act. Your

(01:02:44):
thoughts on this, Well, he.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Still got a Congressman from Alabama who is the chairman
of the Armed Services Committee, and that person can get
in a way. Let's just see what happens. But it's
going to be done and what's called the reconciliation process. Again,
so the Senate has a bill, the House has the bill. Well,

(01:03:09):
they don't agree. They come together at a conference and
agree on the final language, voted up or down, and
then goes back to both chambers. They vote on it,
and the President signs it. So we're here with two
different versions. They have to go to Congress conference and
then we'll get the NDAA after the conference. Let's hope
the language is in there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Mike Turner, the representative from Ohio who has per me
the Senator from Ohio who has always been a congressman,
congressman pardon me, thank you, who has always been a
thorn in the side of this disclosure Act. He's known,
along with many others, to whitewash it, basically making it

(01:03:52):
a vanilla's statement inside the budget the last couple of
years to upset many people who are hoping for some
sort of budgetary advance and to study the UFO slash
u A p uh technology and what is truly going on.
His representation was, I have an opinion. Oh I'm going

(01:04:14):
to get that to you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
So that part of the UAP Disclosure Act, as it's said,
no one in the government may spend a dime on UFO, U,

(01:04:36):
A P, whatever you want to call it stuff without
coming and getting proper oversight from Commerce. And so that
ended forever any illegal spending unless they don't want to
follow the law, which they haven't been doing since Roswell.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
So maybe there's still not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Well, I guess the point that I'm getting at is
Turner was the representative for his jurisdiction in Ohio that
literally had fifty thousand plus employees at Wright Patterson Air
Force Base, and Right Patterson Air Force Base has been

(01:05:23):
highly controversial on the UFO subject because going back to
nineteen forty seven, it was believed that that's where the
Roswell crash debris was originally taken to before it was
moved to Area fifty one. Now, obviously there's a lot
of secrets being kept at Right pat And do you

(01:05:44):
think that he had been looking out for his own
business and his own constituents and created a bias over that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Well, not only that he was the thing he was
chair on the House Select Committee for Intelligence that part
of the NDAA cannot pass without his approval. He vetoted
it with Rogers of Alabama, who is the chair of

(01:06:15):
the House Armed Services Committee. The two of them got
in the way, and they are kings. Their committees can't
even vote without their permission on anything, and so they
got in the way and stopped it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
So now that he is out of the picture of
the Gang of eight, how much do you think this
will go towards getting this passed?

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
A major portion of the way. But it depends on
how much pressure.

Speaker 13 (01:06:46):
Is brought by the secret keepers and the DoD and
the intelligence community and the corporations that have got all
these materials, how much they put pressure on members of Congress.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Who do you think if this money? If this passes budget,
who do you think gets the money?

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Well, the Congress is forbidden from spending money on UAP
until they come in and open kimono and tell the truth.
So there is no money to be spent. The UAP
Disclosure Actives passed two years ago is the money saving
thing because it ended the expenditures of taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Okay, so you don't see any money actually going and
being funneled to research this project.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
I don't say that. So I think that if the
UAP Disclosure Act with the terms that the Senators want
in it gets passed and signed by President Trump, then
Arrow can be directed outside of the Pentagon to do

(01:08:07):
some things. Now, look, a mistake was made. You let them.
You put the Fox in charge of Garden. The hen House,
which is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
and the Secretary of Defense's office controls Arrow. And they
won't let them talk, won't let them say anything, won't

(01:08:31):
let them show us evidence. Look what is Arrow actually doing.
It's telling us things that they resolved.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
They've resolved them as we know what this is and
it's man made, or we don't know what this balloon
looking thing called aluminum orb is. But they have not
shown a single really anomalous craft because they've been told
they cannot until they've quote resolved. It means they have

(01:09:01):
to figure out what planet or dimension it from and
how it works before they can tell us about it.
Arrow is hamstrong by the Pentagon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
So do you think then that there is absolutely no
way of that even passing through budget?

Speaker 14 (01:09:20):
Oh no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
If it passes, that's the end of that practice. In
other words, I believe that the FBI is going to
be unleashed because look, people people don't get is the
CIA cannot be in charge of UFOs inside the United States.

(01:09:43):
They are not legally allowed to operate in the United
States without the FBI. The FBI can do what it
wants to in the United States and they have been
clearly investigating UFO for a while because the Congress went
to the FBI and got a briefing and they were

(01:10:05):
wowed these pictures that Luna talked about, she was shown
them by the FBI.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Okay, So as we move forward, where do you see
this going?

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
It depends on how Trump and the National Security Council
wants to handle it within the confines of the law.
So right now, Errow is captured by the Director of
National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff and the Secretary of Defense. They're captured. They need

(01:10:45):
to be independent, and good science and engineering needs to
be done without their veto.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
What was your thoughts changing topics here of the Sky
Canada report coming out by doctor Mona Nimer.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Basically, I thought it was interesting and it bears a
lot of looking into and I hope you Canadians and
others look into it a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Do you think it's going to make progression in the subject.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
I hope it will in Canada, I really do. Look,
the United States has stepped on its allies in NATO
and the Five Eyes next and not allow them to talk.
And I hope that this comes to an end with
the new with the new NDAA and a new willingness
to be more open. Look, there's nothing worse right now

(01:11:50):
than the complete and utter lack of faith by every
political party in their government. We have to fix this.
The government has to stop lying to the world.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
With the Sky Canada project. You know, one of the
things that they were stating is that, you know, they're
not sure what it is, but they don't recognize that
there is any type of threat in the system so
far regarding this entire subject matter, but they don't know
or have any answers as to what it is. I mean,
they were a little bit vague, and that they were

(01:12:33):
vague to the point where they said that they don't
really want to go down the wu side of everything.
They're trying very much to keep it. How can I
put it nuts and bolts on everything? So just your
thoughts on that, because in my opinion regarding this, I
tend to think that this entire subject matter regarding guarding

(01:13:00):
this would be they are very much willing to talk
nuts and bolts kind of where the United States was
seven eight years ago when the New York Times article
came out. That would make me feel that Canada is
about seven to eight years behind where the US is
on their own disclosure movement. It's a start, but it

(01:13:23):
doesn't seem to have any political backing either.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
Well. The thing's so amazing to me is Grant cameraon
of all people, knows how much people inside the Canadian
government from the fifties on knew about what's going on.
And members of Majestic twelve or what if you want

(01:13:48):
to call them, who talked to Grant Camera so told him, well,
what do you know about PI and ESP and that
kind of stuff? And he said at the time he
was nuts and bolton and he said he didn't know.
He says, well, if you don't know that, you'll never
have anything to do with this because you're never ready

(01:14:08):
allowed inside. So what this tells you is they have
known for a long time that the WU and what
the experiencers can tell them informs them of what the
phenomenon is. You know, this, and I know this because
we have experiencer friends who have been brought in to

(01:14:30):
see if they can fly the craft, if they can
interact with their tech, which is interacted with telepathically.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Which is what groups like Skywatcher, which you were part of,
are looking into exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
Skywatcher is definitely now trying to leave old dog Whistle behind,
and psionics or CE five or whatever you want to
call it be the way they interact with a non
human intelligence. They wanted it to be restricted to that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Do you think then that we are at a precipice
of this subject matter, whether it's in Canada or the
United States, where this subject is either going to blow
up for the good or blow up for the bad.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
I don't know which way it'll go right now. I
don't know which way it'll go. We have to see
how things go.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Because last time when you were on the show, you
stated that you believed disclosure was dead.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
I believe government disclosure is now and always will be
ultimately useless. We need people who are independent and objective
to work on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Let's move on to another topic here, sticking with right
Patterson about a UFO incident with a cube shaped object.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Wasn't that amazing, Not only that it was in an
official government document.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Fill us in on this, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
So John has continued to do the right thing with
the Black Vault and do FIA FOIA different search terms,
et cetera, et cetera. And he got a document that
showed that over that the Air Force and others had
lied about everything that happened over right path and they

(01:16:38):
actually saw a UFO interact would look like a mothership
that was.

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
Bringing these drones out operating over.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Right Patterson Air Force Base. And I don't know all
the details, but I know what we have seen. People
can go look at it at the Black Vault and
it's really interesting enough stuff was unredected to make it
one of the most unbelievable UFO documents ever released.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
What caught your attention about.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
It that they that they caught, that they were caught lying,
and that there was an actual craft and they didn't
know what the drones were. They shut down the Homeport
Air Force Base for the entire United States Air Force
because they couldn't figure out what was going on. They

(01:17:32):
were lost. They shut the operations down. Can you even
imagine that is the home of the Air force shut
down for UFOs totally admitted to in that document.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
It's kind of scary, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
That's very scary, and the home of the most advanced.

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
Fighter jet in the in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
The f twenty two shut shut that air base down
for almost two weeks because they could not gain control
over their own airspace.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
For people wondering what's going on, what do you think
happened there?

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
Some kind of craft came in and showed us that
they were here.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
It was a hey, we're.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Here, and the government managed to do a pretty good
job of covering up. It was weird.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
Everybody knows they were lied to.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
I mean, I mean even Trump said, the FAA says,
it's our drones and it was okay. Well we know
from these documents that it was not our drones, and
it's not okay.

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
And we don't know what it is or where it
came from.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
How it got here, who said it here.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
I'm telling you, I believe the government.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
Does not know what was flying over the air base
in Virginia right Patterson and Ohio and over the state
of New Jersey and pick it to in the arsenal.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
They don't know, and they're not in control.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
It's kind of scary to think.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
It's part of why they don't want to talk about it.
They have to admit they do not control our airspace.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Let's move on to another topic here, Bob is we
got about four minutes to go before we got to
go to break at the bottom of the hour. Talk
about Gary Nolan. He is all over the map lately
when it comes to this subject what's your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
And he is really pulling out all the levers on
this stuff is real. Just get over it. I mean
he literally is, and he's talking about materials that he
has tested and some of it is manufactured by a method.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
We do not understand.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Why does every UFO group, or almost every UFO group
seem to have Gary Nolan on their list of directors.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
I think they a lot of them believe that he
is like the leading voice for science and all of this.
The part that needs further explanation to me is his
introduction to all of this and his interaction with this
topic and how he got to be in American cosmic

(01:20:52):
way back then was he had worked with Kit Green
a lot on problems of Havana syndrome, and he discovered
with Kit the called APU common enhancement that allows people

(01:21:12):
to have abilities more easily. He's he has definitely worked
for the government and he seems to be sitting right
on the edge and a lot of people want his
influence because he's a big name in look. He is
a huge name in medical science between the first mapping

(01:21:34):
of the human genome and Chrisopher cast nine Chrisopher cast
nine editing the human genome at multiple places. He has
a patent which formed a company that he made a
lot of money on every one of those, allowing Christopher

(01:21:56):
cast nine to be indented. He is a He should
have won the Nobel Prize in medicine multiple times.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
A lot of people are saying that these groups have
to have Gary Nolan on because Gary Nolan has bought
and paid.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
For I don't know that's that's overt, but it might
be a covert truth, but they may not know because
I doubt he admits it if it's true. But he's
not making a secret of the fact that he was
asked to and work for Kit Green and the CIA

(01:22:36):
and others in the government on certain topics, and that
he's been told things for which he had to sign
a non disclosure agreement and can't comment any further now.
A lot of materials he's working with now he got
from Jacque Belet, who went a crowd across the world
collecting them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Do you think Gary Mary Nolan, let me rephrase that
with one minute to go here, I had a conversation
with somebody recently who said that Gary Nolan, bless his heart,
had originally started with the extremely right intentions on this
entire subject, trying to learn about humans and ets and

(01:23:23):
the connection between the two, so on and so forth,
and now that person believes that Nolan has kind of,
you know, danced with the devil one too many times
and is now a government shill on this entire project.
You know, I I think I.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Personally believe he's a government shill. I believe that he
and his group do, in fact have contracts with the
government and that will that will exert controls right right, well,
but I don't believe he's a government shill.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
And thank you for saying that. I appreciate that. Bob.
I'm gonna get you to hold on right there, we
are going to.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
I'm sorry. One thing I do have to say that
he and I are appears in Skywatcher.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yes, yes, we're going to break Science Bob and Friends
continues for the next half hour. Right after this, you're
listening to Space Out with your host Dave Scott. Hey, Bob,

(01:24:45):
just chat with the audience here for a minute. I
got to run and try and find some tumbs or something. Okay, sure,
be're right.

Speaker 15 (01:24:52):
Back us.

Speaker 16 (01:25:17):
Us all right, says Bob.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Sorry about that. Hold on, my dad is calling in
hold on, my dad? How come I can't get on

(01:27:37):
and find your saint? Go on YouTube? Jesus God, are
you there? Saints? Bob?

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Yeah, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
I was just chatting with you there.

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
I was writing somebody in the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Oh, Juliana, how are you? Did you ever get your
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Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
You haven't cracked the top.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
No, I've got three bottles of this, three bottles. I
gotta talk to Ryan. We got to do a promo.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
Yep, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
We got a minute, man.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Please notice mine is still sealed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Yeah, mine too. I love the fact that he uses
a cork and not a screwtap.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
I'm me too, I'm a cork bigot.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
You notice if you look inside the bottle there's actually
an abduction taking place on the back of the label.
But Science Bob, you need one of these.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
Oh yeah, I need a crew it just like it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Uh huh.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
Cutlas.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Oh yeah. I don't know if my old man's watching
right now or not, but he's a weirdo.

Speaker 16 (01:29:57):
Oh for God's sake, just stay up there.

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Let's go back to doctor Bob mcg He doesn't make
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and he knows his stuff. He's our resident scientist here
on spaced Out Radio, formerly of the CIA, formerly of

(01:32:10):
the NRO, formerly of Virginia Tech University, and he refuses
to admit he's retired. He refuses to admit it. Bob,
welcome back.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
I'm happy to be here, and I'm leaving retirement as
fast as I can. I'm bored.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Come up to flight twenty one. That's all I'm saying.
The door is open, Come check it on out.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
I'm gonna work that out with you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
I guarantee you you better, you better, all right, Bob,
I got a question from Little Timmy James for you,
our UFO reporter. He wants me to ask you about
skywatchers reportedly signing non disclosure agreements. Does this mean, if
this is true, the mission for transparency is over.

Speaker 17 (01:33:00):
No, those people who go out on the range and
help collect video and other data are required to sign
an agreement which is really quite extensive.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
But and it covers a couple of things. Don't tell
people how the dog whistle works. And even if you
are attacked by the non human intelligence, you will stand down.
It's pretty tough.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
It is pretty tough. I mean we also have to
remember too. And we may not like it. Okay, we
may not like it, but the big thing that we
need to remember is Skywatcher is not part of the
UFO community. They are their own entity. They are they're
doing their own thing, and they're allowed to do that.

(01:34:00):
We may not like it because we're looking for that
next action hero and look, I don't like it any
more than you do. But they're allowed to do this.
They're allowed to go down their own road. They're allowed
to create a company, they're allowed to make money off
of this. They're allowed to do their own research and

(01:34:21):
not report to people like me or you or anybody
like that who wants to know more about what we're doing.
We want to know because we're nosy. We want to
know because we want answers. And we have these brilliant
people who are out there who are like, well, you know,
so you want the answers. That sucks to be you.

(01:34:42):
And they're allowed to do that. Bob, how.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
They made some promises and they need to keep them
or announce that for business reasons, they no longer can.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
I mean, they just need to operate ethically.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
And to my to my best ability to know they
are operating ethically.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Oh man, okay, So do we ever expect something from
them to come out publicly? Will they ever release a
report like Sky Canada or other groups have released reports.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
I think that they will look okay. So look, one
thing that I know Gary Nolan is in charge of
is distribution of scientific data that will be used in
a peer reviewed journal paper will not be distributed until
the journal paper is accepted.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
That is the rules in science.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
He is forcing the team to follow the rules of science,
which is you don't talk about the data and show
it until it is put in a box and a
lock on it, and other scientists can open the lock
freely and get it the data and do whatever they

(01:36:15):
want to with it. But you have to have all
of that sequestered from the world until your paper is accepted.
That's the rules of science. And this aggravates people to
death because they want to know yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Of course they do. I mean people are literally hungry
for answers.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
And for many people for eighty years.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
Absolutely, And you can't blame the people for wanting those answers.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
I don't blame I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
I don't think it's I don't think it's helpful to
be nasty to those people who are trying to do
stuff operating within the rules, and that they are privately funded.
This is not public money. And the facts are five

(01:37:16):
years of data while they were working on other things
led to the formation of Skywalker because it was a
serendipitous discovery that the dog whistle worked.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
For people who don't know what the dog whistle is,
explain that.

Speaker 18 (01:37:40):
It is a method that they have used successfully that
when it is exercised, they claim one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
Of the time a craft shows up. That's their plan.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Why did they call it a dog whistle? Is in
an actual dog whistle.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
It's it's analogs. It's an analog thing electro mechanical, and
so it's like something blowing a whistle. It said, it's
the equivalent of a dog a supersonic whistle. It's the
equivalent of that. It's not a whistle, but it's the

(01:38:24):
equivalent of that. And they want to replace that with
psionics because you got to work for two years to
be able to do that, and they don't want people
taking the dog whistle and going all calling craft down
and killing the occupants and stealing the craft. They don't

(01:38:45):
want people abusing the dog whistle, and we know from
Barber and others that they thought a gun battle with
people that were trying to steal the stuff from They're
doing what they need to do to protect us, and
they should. They should be They should be ethical, they

(01:39:10):
should be conscientious, they should be truthful, they should not lie.
They should do what they say they're going to do
or tell people why they can't.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Let's go to Derek science Blob. Do you believe Jake
Barber truly was intentionally sent in to bring disinformation in
the UFO communities by government agencies.

Speaker 7 (01:39:36):
I absolutely believe it, really, and I believe that Michael
Herrera interacting with Jake Barber at Steven Grier's deal where
all of this what he's talking about happened, is the
thing that changed Jake Barber's mind into getting in with

(01:39:59):
the Skywalk.

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
It changed his mind.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
People should don't look at Michael Herrera's story because it
is this is true.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
I want to ask you there was on X just
the other day, there was a woman named Moneypenny at
Nick Underscore. Moneypenny on X made a threat this past
weekend to Ross Coltart Investigative journalist for News Nation on
the UFO subject, where she basically called Ross colthart out,

(01:40:41):
stating that she wanted answers and she was giving him
a three hour time limit before she was going to
expose what she knew and what was this all about. Well,
about a year and a half ago, Ross came out
stating that there was a giant UFO so big that
they had to build a base around it or some

(01:41:03):
sort of building around it in order to cover it up. Now,
this Moneypenny lady gave Ross a three hour window to
respond to her as to why she should not give
up the location of where this is because Ross was
the one teasing the UFO public that he knew of

(01:41:24):
this location but could not say where it was. Well,
she came out with it seems to be in Nebraska
at an Air Force base. But before she came out
with it, Ross responded online giving her the big public
verbal middle finger and telling her to pound sand. What

(01:41:45):
do you think about all this?

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
Well, Moneypenny is a former BBC reporter and she has
journalistic chops. I don't know what she has a journalism degree,
but she did work professionally as a journalist. And but
she is in to the WU and the strange science.

(01:42:11):
She's big time into it. I've interacted with her a
lot on X and I don't know how she came
by this. I don't know where she got it. I
don't know what her sources are because she hasn't told
us anything. So she's claims it's there and Ross won't
have anything to do with it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
Do you think it was right or wrong for her
to put that pressure on Ross?

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
Well, the way you delivered it, in my opinion, is
not how she stated it. So she said, Ross, if
you know a reason for national security or whatever why
I shouldn't tell this stuff, let me know. I don't

(01:43:04):
like the way she did. She said what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Well, let's let's I'm going to try and play this
for our audience here, okay, so that way they can
hear this, because I know there's not going to be
any copyright on it, so I can kind of get
away with it here. But let's play this because I
do think it's important here. Is that the screen or
is that the screen? Nope, that's the screen right there.
So let's play this, and I'm going to turn the

(01:43:33):
volume up so make sure that everybody can hear it
and tell me if you can hear this.

Speaker 19 (01:43:39):
Hi, this is Moneypenny. This is a message to Ross Coulthard.
You have three hours from now to contact me, and
you have my contact details. We've spoken before to be
able to stop me revealing where a giant UFO, a
huge giant UFO is underneath a massive high security building.

(01:44:05):
And now I have the evidence and I'm going to
release it in three hours time unless you contact me
and tell me there is a very important national security
issue that would stop me, because I believe in the
interests of disclosure and of everybody who has been struggling
with deception and secrets for far too long, that we

(01:44:26):
have a right to know this. You told us about
it more than two years ago. It's about time people
knew the truth. Three hours counting. Speak to your sins.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
There we go, science Bam.

Speaker 19 (01:44:39):
Hi, this is Moneypenny. This is a message to Ross.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
So there we go. Your thoughts on.

Speaker 4 (01:44:46):
That I did. Don't like the way she did it,
but she said what I said, if you know our
national security reason that you can share with me that
will prevent me from doing this, let me know otherwise
I'm going to do And she did it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
I'm going to tell you from my journalistic point of view,
I think they're both right. Ross can't give up the story.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Because he have a source that did. He guaranteed he wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Bingo bingo, okay. But number two, she also had the
right to call him out on that because Ross should
have never teased the UFO public about it. And that's
what I agree with you on that, And I do

(01:45:40):
believe he did regret what's going on with that, you know,
But just the idea though that that happened publicly. I
would like to know a few more things, and I'm
going to try and get her on the show. I
am going to try and get it because I'm interested now.
Sheet you know, she threw the hook in and I
took the bait. I really did it, you know, And

(01:46:03):
I want to know what led to that. Did they
have any conversations? Was Ross not responding to her in
private DMS or emails or phone calls, because unfortunately for Ross,
he is so busy. He does have a habit of that.
I know that because he's told me, well, we have chatted.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
Left the answer super crazy movie Geeks question.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Well, we'll get to that in just a second here,
because I will get to that. But just overall thoughts,
I think they were both in the right and the wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):
Each of them followed their own ethical path.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
All right, let's go to super crazy. What do you
think of doctor Beatrice Villarol's findings that seems to be
evidence of artificial objects in geosynchronous orbit? I can't believe
I just pronounced that correctly. Or on photo photographic plates
be for humans started launching satellites.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
Beatrice and I are We interact all the time on X.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
She is a brilliant scientist.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
She is doing great work, and I believe every word
she says because she's published this in a peer reviewed
journal and had to defend it to the editors, So
I believe her. This is this is the woman that
discovered the stars that vanished on plates a few months ago,

(01:47:38):
with no explanation for why they vanished, And so she
kept looking and found these Jews and as she found it,
where they're in sunlight and if they go into the
shadow they disappear.

Speaker 5 (01:47:50):
She's she's got, she's got.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
All the evidence she needs to draw a scientific conclusion.
She doesn't know where they're from, but she knows their satellites.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
The one thing I like about Beatrice Villa Roles study
here and Bob you can maybe you'll agree with me,
maybe you won't. But the one thing that I've learned
about her is, as far as I can see, on
the front, there is no agenda here. It's about conducting
proper science about whether or not there is life out

(01:48:27):
there and whether or not it is visiting us. I
think she, in my opinion, is one of the top
five scientists, maybe top ten scientists that are looking into
this worldwide and being taken.

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
I agree with that completely. She's a top five.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
Yeah, and this is a name where I think we
are going to see when this, if this story ever
comes out, we are going to see her name at
the top in the first couple paragraphs of that dissertation.
I think she's brilliant. I really do. Beatrice as b

(01:49:02):
A T R I Z or Z. For you Americans,
Villa v I L L A R R o E
L Beatrice Villa Role follow her.

Speaker 4 (01:49:14):
Yes, she's she's she's brilliant. She's so people can go
watch the Soul Foundation on YouTube presentations and see Villa
Beatrice and she's been in She's she's all over YouTube
being interviewed.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
Why is she went to.

Speaker 10 (01:49:32):
I'm sorry, she went to uh off the coast of
Europe and look for that weird UFO shaped object.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
And we have not heard the details yet, so I'm
waiting on that too.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Four minutes to go here, Science Bob, I'm just gonna
hit you bluntly with this one. Do you think that
that object A three or I three atlasts is a
UFO or do you think it's space debris?

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
I haven't seen anything yet that lets me believe it's
a UFO. I've seen stuff that lets me believe it's
not a comet of the type we normally see, which
is a dirty ice ball. But I haven't seen any
evidence yet that it's accelerating, it's changing its trajectory, and

(01:50:30):
for me to believe it's a craft, it would have
to change its directory, your trajectory.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
What are some of the things that would lead people
to believe that this may be a craft of some sort?
Because av Lobes av Lobes from Harvard University tends to
believe there is something strange about it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:52):
Yep, And I just think it's not it's it's it's
it's looks like it looks like it's outgassing in a
weird way. But until it does something that requires intelligent
action through an engineering principle, you can't claim it's artificial.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Where do you think this came from?

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
Oh, it definitely came from outside of the Solar System
because it's on a hyperbolic orbit. That means it's too
fast to have ever orbited the Sun. And we know
from You can go read what part of the sky
it came from, what constellation it came from, We know
all that. Just go read about it and you'll find out.

(01:51:47):
And I forgot where it is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
What would it mean, hypothetically, Bob, if this was some
sort of UFO, maybe some discovery type craft from a
different civilization.

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
I want to encourage people to go to understand what
it would mean to be somebody like me and others.
Go read Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur Secorn. It is
a book, science fiction book written by a brilliant scientist
of exactly such a thing as you're talking about. A

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craft came from outside and we went out and looked
at it. And it's a great book and it captures
the spirit of what I would believe, I believe would happened.
If such a thing came through and interacted with.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
Us, would you be excited?

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
Oh, it's beyond belief.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Yes, four I three atlasts. Are we going to be
able to see this with our naked eye as it
gets closer to Earth come November?

Speaker 4 (01:53:00):
I don't think so. I think I think James Webspace
telescope will be able to image it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
How about your own personal one trillion dollar space technology
that you have in your yard.

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
I can see, I can see the comment, but I
can't resolve features on it because my telescope's not big enough.
It's a very expensive telescope for an amateur. It is
not a professional instrument.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
I know. But I was building you up for suspense there, Bob,
and you bailed on me. Thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
Gee, I gotta keep it real with my with my peeceh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Very true. Twenty five seconds. Tell us where they can
find your podcast, Orbis Paranormal.

Speaker 4 (01:53:54):
Orgust Paranormal is on YouTube and everything else is on
Tuesday nights and sometimes Wednesday and Thursdays. We're in a
little bit of a high eight.

Speaker 5 (01:54:05):
It's called of how hard Laala's working.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
But we'll be back with shows and we've had some
great shows.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Yeah, you have Science Bob. We'll talk to you next month,
my friend. Thank you for another great show. Coming up
next on spaced Out Radio. To kick off our number three,
we'll have Swamp Dweller. Then after that it will be
the UFO Report with Little Timmy James. We'll be right back.

(01:54:32):
You're listening just spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
All right, good y, Jules, runak everybody. Good to see
you tonight, David. It was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
Appreciate you, buddy, and thank you for taking my caller lead.
All right, take care of Science Bob. Everybody, we love him.
I'll be right back.

Speaker 12 (01:56:02):
US USA, USA, USA, USA, US.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
All right, let's bring in Little Timmy James.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Not much. Got a little nervous there when my old
man popped in. No, let me know that he was listening.
I'm like, oh, for God's.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
Sake, phones you in the middle of the show. Where
do I have barn?

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
You right?

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
That's funny, gotta love pops.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Oh yeah, he's a good dude. Hopefully he's coming up
next week.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
He wants to go out to flight twenty one. But
he's absolutely petrified.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Oh, he wants to do the night one.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
H he's I think it'd be good for him. I do.

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
I think it'd be good for him. Put hair on
his chest.

Speaker 1 (02:00:42):
Oh yeah, big. Thank you tonight to Von Patrick, Michelle
Times Too, Dutch, Hank js CEO, Pam Cat Chaser, Science
Bob for the great super chats. Thank you for the love.
Remember we are loading up the next episode of Secrets
of the Forest, and if you're a member of our
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that before anybody else. You will be mm hmm, you
get first look. So we're gonna do three seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:01:13):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
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My name is Dave Scott. Thank you very much for
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right here on spaced Out Radio, Let's head to the swamp.

Speaker 20 (02:02:29):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp. I'm swamp dweller.
In tonight, I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends, and nightmares.
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp. These occurrences take
place in my new home in South Carolina. For some backstory,

(02:02:53):
it was the year two thousand and six when I
moved into my current home. I used to be an
avid outdoorsman. I used to anyway. Yesterday, while out on
one of my daily hikes during the evening, I found
an old or rotting note. After reading this note, I
highly doubt I'll be back to those woods for a
long while. The note read, I was out with a

(02:03:16):
few friends for a get together for a friend of mine.
He was going to leave for college in a week,
so everyone wanted him to go out with a bang.
We were having this get together in some private property
that one of my friends. My few friends were Brandon, Kyle, Alfred,
and myself. We used this property to drive around the
ATV's and dirt bikes we owned. We drank for a while,

(02:03:38):
quite carelessly. Eventually one of us had the idiotic idea
to write our ATVs around to make the effects of
being heavily intoxicated even more extreme. I sluggishly went along.
Someone had to be able to watch and make sure
nothing happened to them, but it had to be me.
I had drunk the second least to Brandon. I was

(02:04:00):
basically completely sober. As we drove further, a sound that
I could not describe to this day began to become
more prevalent. As we went further into the woods. The
sound became so overpowering at one point that it covered
up the loud noise of our bikes. Eventually we were
all on the ground, screaming and covering our ears in

(02:04:20):
pain and torment. No matter which direction we ran, even
out of the woods, the sound would still grow louder.
At this point, the sound became clear to me that
it was most likely a scream. Then I saw something
that I will never forget. I saw these what I
can only describe as animals. They looked like pale, light gray,

(02:04:42):
humanoid type creatures. They had to have stood at least
four feet at the shoulder. Their heads had borne the
charges of dogs, but the teeth were tiny, blood red knives.
The screaming noise had ceased to stop. Then that there
was one creature that stood out from the other eight.
This one stood about six feet tall at the shoulder.

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He had a much more muscular build than the others,
who looked malnourished. His mouth was wide open, still bearing
those sharp, long needlelike teeth, But the biggest one, which
I supposed twas the leader, made a different noise. I
could only describe this noise as a clicking noise. It
may be necessary to mention that I have the most

(02:05:26):
powerful build of all four of us. After my friend
had been dragged away so inhumanly fast, I couldn't run
that fast if my life depended on it, but at
this point it did. But while my friends and I
were being dragged away. I realized something. The screaming had stopped.
After about two or three miles. There was a pit

(02:05:47):
of bones from different animals, but the most common were
human bones. The stench was so nerve racking that I
eventually passed out. When I woke up, my friends were
already dead. After seeing the bodies of my friends being
eaten by the creatures, I will never be the same.
The screaming stopped when the animals had something in their mouths.

(02:06:07):
The screaming almost drove me insane. I resorted to feeding
the creatures all my family, friends and pets. All the
people I know are gone. My family friends, and even
my pets are gone. I think the police are beginning
to understand what's going on now. They've been showing up
at my house more and more lately. The screaming won't stop.

(02:06:28):
I have nothing to feed them except for myself. This
is my suicide letter before I jump into the place
where I keep the creatures away from all society. Anyone
who finds this note, please drop the note now and run.
I don't want anyone else to suffer my fate now.
For whatever reason, I believe that this note is truly genuine.

(02:06:51):
More and more by day. A strange screaming noise has
been coming closer to my home every night that I
keep hearing. I don't know how much longer I'll be
able to live here. Every night they just get a
little bit closer and a little bit closer. With my
trusty Revolver at my side, tonight, I will most likely
not be able to sleep. The sounds that I hear

(02:07:11):
at night freak me out so bad that I can't sleep,
and I have to somehow find some sort of prescription
drug to make it work. I could hear a scratching
noise in my door recently. I'm hoping that things are
going to improve before I get out of here, or
hopefully at least hold off into my move. I plan
to move back in with my parents in a few

(02:07:33):
days time. Wish me luck, because I sure as hell
I'm gonna need it. Like I said, when I first
found that note, I thought it was just some sort
of short, scary story, maybe something that somebody had put
there to scare people. But after I'm starting to experience
these things myself, this story is starting to seem a
little bit more real.

Speaker 1 (02:07:54):
Thank you, Swamp Dweller for another spooky story. If you
want more just like that, head on over to YouTube
pype in Swamp Dweller, hit subscribe, ring that bell and
you got major stories there all night long. Here we
go with the UFO Report.

Speaker 3 (02:08:08):
That is an interplanetary flying space sauce.

Speaker 1 (02:08:29):
Little Timmy James here for the UFO Report, and Tim
it's always good to have you on the air with us.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
Well thanks for having me back.

Speaker 1 (02:08:39):
Well, I prefer when you're in studio, but that's just me.
I'm greedy that way. I'm a greedy, greedy guary. Before
we get into the UFO Report, did you get it
opportunity to hear science Bob right off the bat when
we were talking about the lack of oxygen in the
forest that you and I experienced a flight twenty one.

Speaker 2 (02:08:59):
I did so, I did so. And the thing that
I I guess that caught my attention. I mean, obviously
he says there's nothing scientific that he can think of
that would do that, but maybe we stepped into a
you know, a portal or whatever. That kind of grabbed
me by the back of the head a little bit
and I was like, hey, maybe there might be something

(02:09:20):
to look into. But it's indescribable. But because like you said, man,
I could have just curled up and ah, this is
wonderful and just taking a nap. It was so strange, right.

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
It was completely strange, and you know, I don't know
if I want to experience that part again. Not that
it was scary, but just the idea that being in
the middle of the forest, like knowing that trees produce
oxygen and there seems to be lack thereof. I don't

(02:09:50):
know what was causing that. I mean, it's easy to
go down the woo road that you know that Robin
Haynes laid out by saying, well, the sasquatch the ability
to do that when you're in your area, they could
manipulate things. I want to believe that. The wu side
of me says, okay, there's some possibility there, but absolutely,
but when you're not seeing that, it is something that

(02:10:14):
kind of trips you out a little bit.

Speaker 8 (02:10:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
Yeah, just a bet. And like you say, there wasn't anything. Yeah,
it wasn't scary or anything. It was just yeah, completely different.
And I would say I can say for myself, I
felt like I wasn't in control and I mean not
a completely far out there, but it just felt like, yeah,

(02:10:37):
I wasn't in control being there, and it was weird.
It was weird, And if I experienced it again, I
definitely know that. You know, we just got to take
about fifty steps backwards and we're okay. But yeah, just
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
All. The good news is the weather looks like it's
starting to break. We weren't expecting rain for Saturday when
back out there. But you know what, I think we're
going to be.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
Okay, Well, it's going to be what it's going to be.
That's it. We're just gonna have to adapt to whatever
gets thrown at us. I suppose for.

Speaker 1 (02:11:17):
Sure, what do you got for us in the UFO report?

Speaker 2 (02:11:19):
Well, let's see here. So, in a new development within
the UFO disclosure community, former Defense officials Chris Mellon and
Lou Alizondo have reportedly been tracking communications involving the FBI
through unofficial channels. Sources familiar with the matter, Indicator indicate
that Mellon and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense and Alizonda,

(02:11:43):
who's previously led the Pentagon's A Tip program, are monitoring
interactions between UFO researchers, whistleblowers, and federal authorities. Their efforts
focus on identifying who is sharing sensitive information with the
FBI regarding UFO incidents and related government activities. The pair's
actions stem from their ongoing push for transparency about UFOs,

(02:12:06):
driven by concerns that critical data is being withheld or
mishandled by federal agencies. Insiders suggests Melan and Alexondo are
leveraging their extensive networks to trace these backchannel exchanges, aiming
to understand the scope of FBI involvement in UFO investigations.
The development comes amid growing public interest in unexplained aerial

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sightings and increasing scrutiny of government response to such phenomena.
Critics within the disclosure movement of raised questions as always
about the motives behind Melan and Alexando's monitoring, with some
accusing them of overstepping their roles. Others argue their actions
are a necessary response to perceived obstructions in the flow

(02:12:50):
of accurate information. Neither Melon nor Alizondo has publicly commented
on these activities, leaving observers to speculate about the broader
implications for UFO research and government accountability. The situation remains
fluid as the UFO community awaits for the clarification on
the extent and impact of these behind the scenes efforts.

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I was like, okay, I was kind of hidden away
on a b roll, but I was like, hmm, yeah,
I did a little bit of research, and it isn't
it isn't made up. There's there are some confirmations that yeah,
this is happening.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
So so basically they're going the roundabout way to try
and get more information to push the disclosure disclosure movement.

Speaker 8 (02:13:39):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:13:40):
That's exactly it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:41):
You know, exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
The one thing that I have learned when you're dealing
with people who are bigger and more powerful than you,
if you try and back channel things, that usually ends
up biting you in the butt.

Speaker 2 (02:13:53):
Yeah, of course, of course. But I mean maybe maybe
with their status, their and their resumes, maybe the bite
won't be so hard. If I mean, it's out in
the open and they're they're I guess, I mean, Alizondo,
they're not talking about it, but I mean it's out
in the news now. I mean, you know, I don't
think they are too overly concerned about it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
But I agree with you, what's your thoughts about his email?
In response to Anna Paulina Luna's comment about the skiff flu.

Speaker 2 (02:14:24):
I was wondering about that too, because I was I
read that this afternoon and I was like, uh so
I saw the email and and and then read his Well,
at first it was undisclosed and it was a private
person that didn't want to say anything, and then it
ended up being lou in the end. But yeah, I
I was pretty I thought, Okay, so he'd he's wanted

(02:14:49):
to come out there, he's wanted to do this, He's
been asked and invited, they cancel, and then they blame
it on those guys not showing up with the skiff.
Flu not quite sure what that's all about either. I
mean there's a lot of speculation. You know, is it
early because they don't want them back in there? Is
it because you know, they were worried about what was

(02:15:10):
going to be said. There's so many questions, but I've
found it quite interesting. I thought, oh okay. Then the
other part of it too, was is why didn't again,
you know, it's it's that defense mechanism. Somebody says, hey,
you you kicked my dog. The first thing I say
is no, I didn't kick your dog. I don't wait
three weeks to go okay, I didn't kick your dog,

(02:15:32):
you know what I mean? That kind of makes me
question it a little bit. But I can't see him
putting note or you know, putting out a statement saying
that they were canceled when they weren't. And there's no
response from Annapoline a Luna or her group of monkeys either,
So who knows.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
Here's the interesting thing about it, and I think we
all need to kind of take note about this little
discrepancy because I'm sure it's going to get swept under
the rug like everything does, and people are going to
look at it and say, okay, well Luna said one thing,
Elizondo's responded nothing here, not a big deal. But I

(02:16:11):
think we need to look deeper into that because to me,
that shows when things get public like that, it shows
whatever side you're on doesn't matter. It shows that there
is a lack of communication going on. It shows a
sense that they are not communicating properly, that they neither

(02:16:33):
side is willing to budge or give in any information,
and that there are shenanigans being played on both sides
and the ones who lose are us.

Speaker 2 (02:16:45):
Yeah, oh yeah, exactly, there's no doubt about it. I
just can't figure it out. Like I mean, I'm looking
at some of the stuff that I researched today and
I wrote notes on it, and I'm like loop pointed,
referenced Paulina Luna asserting that she knows the truth and
quotes about the situation and claim to possess email which

(02:17:07):
I've seen or which was posted, and I saw I
should say it like I've got special access to his
emails or something. But yeah, and then it is it
turns around and yeah, it's it's the kids that suffer.
Mom and dad are fighting and he said, she said,
and yeah, ultimately it's us that are going. Okay, just

(02:17:31):
get over it, build a bridge, let's get over it.
Come to sunshine chores, and let's get back on track.
And well, I guess I will have to wait and
see it and see if the resumes for the new
whistleblowers are coming in hot and heavy, which I dou't
very much.

Speaker 1 (02:17:48):
Well, it's going to be interesting because in Alizondo's tweet,
it basically reads, you know, like hey man, like I'm
a whistleblower too, and If this is the way you're
treating me, why are more people going to want to
come out?

Speaker 2 (02:18:00):
Exactly? Nope, he's bang on. I mean, that's just it,
you're I guess it's like anything. But this is a big,
huge topic. And I mean I'm obviously stating the obvious,
but this is a huge topic. And to play you know,
silly bugger for lack of a better phrase, you're what, Yeah,

(02:18:21):
what's enticing other people to come and sit down at
the table and go, Okay, this is a safe space,
let's get this done. These people are on the ball,
they're asking good questions. There's whistle pull over protection, there's
all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
No, if I was one of those people sitting in
the wings going being indecisive something like this, that made
me go, I don't know, I don't know. Poor managerial structure.

Speaker 1 (02:18:45):
It doesn't make for a bright future, man, It really doesn't.
If one hand is trying to bite the other hand,
you know, even though there's no teeth involved, it is
a little bit it is a little bit weird.

Speaker 2 (02:19:00):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:19:02):
And.

Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
Again it doesn't it's not cohesive for any for any
positive talks. It's stuck cohesive to you know, bringing people
out that want to come out. Yeah, it's just there's
so many aspects. This little, this little not a big deal,
but it is. It is really it ripples. It's the
rock in the water. Right. The ripples just get bigger

(02:19:26):
and bigger and bigger and bigger just because of that
little incident.

Speaker 1 (02:19:30):
What else you got for us? We got four and
a half minutes, got four and.

Speaker 2 (02:19:34):
A half minutes. Well, let's see here we have what
we just spoke about. You guys were talking about a
lot of my stuff tonight, so I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:19:43):
Trying to just spill it, just spill it.

Speaker 2 (02:19:48):
Well, No, it was Anna Polina Luna, so that was
all right, that was the big story.

Speaker 1 (02:19:53):
But well let's talk about her on Joe Rogan because
we need your thoughts on it.

Speaker 2 (02:19:58):
Okay, yeah, I watched some of it. What was it
when it came out yesterday? I can't believe that she
just sat down and went I was, I was, I
guess I get pleasantly surprised, a little bit shocked. I
know that I thought that Rogan did a good job
and wasn't, you know, obviously giving her courtesy. But I

(02:20:21):
found that, you know, he kept reaching over and she
wasn't she played the classified game. But I thought that
she gave up what she could, if that makes any sense.
And I was I was like, okay, very interesting. It
was a hot first twenty twenty five minutes and then
it kind of went into different things. But I was like,
oh my gosh, man, like, okay, cool. Is she you know?

(02:20:45):
Does this cement it as her wanting to be, you know,
showing everybody that she is straight up and she wants
to be a disclosure into this disclosure and she had
she feels that everybody has the right to know or
is this just a big front? I don't know, but
I was impressed. I thought it was I thought it
was good. I thought she did well, and I thought
Joe asked some good questions on him.

Speaker 1 (02:21:07):
What was your thoughts about her getting into the interdimensional side?
That they seem to have been able to figure out
the time space continuum, they being the beings, the aliens,
the nhis, whatever you want to call them.

Speaker 8 (02:21:21):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:21:22):
I thought that that was very interesting too, And I
like the way that she she how would you I
guess The way that she brought it out and the
way she spoke about it was like, yeah, Okay, no, there.
She mentioned that a few times, that it's real, and
I was like okay, but then she couldn't go any further,
which was fine, and like Joe Rogan said, that's a

(02:21:43):
pretty vague answer. But I was like, okay, so we
have somebody in the government that's not a trust me
bro and and she said, yeah, this is this is
real and I was like, okay, we that's a huge
step my opinion, that's a huge step because somebody sitting

(02:22:04):
in you know, at the White House or in the
pentagona up on Capitol Hill or wherever else she works,
has just said mm hmm, yeah, it's it's there. It's true,
it's real. It's that I've seen it. I've I've seen photos,
I've been in you know, classified stuff. And I was
just like wow, wow, that kind of blew my mind.

(02:22:26):
I think that that's great. I think it's, like I say,
a big push and a big step forward.

Speaker 1 (02:22:31):
I also thought it very interesting how, you know, she
was talking about the photos that she's seen of Craft
and then explaining how she couldn't, you know, talk about
what was actually particularly on the photos. But I like
how Joe Rogan actually said, well, you know, why can't
we see them? What's wrong with us seeing them? And she,

(02:22:52):
she being Luna, really didn't have a good answer for that.

Speaker 2 (02:22:55):
No, No, she did sidestep it. And and I guess,
and I'm I'm I'm not defending her as a government entity,
don't get me wrong, but I mean, yeah, I guess
there's only so much she can say. And well, you know,
quote unquote national security, right. But yeah, I think she

(02:23:15):
sidestepped it. But I think a lot of what she
said was really good, and I was glad to see that.
You know, she was quite candid. She was She didn't
seem like she was sitting back, you know, thinking her
answers out. She was answering and it was good. I
don't know what else to say. Man, I thought she
did a really good job, and I was I was
pretty impressed.

Speaker 1 (02:23:35):
I do believe she wants to say more. I really
do believe she wants to say more.

Speaker 2 (02:23:41):
Yeah, and I think you could tell that too. Like
I say, there was no hesitancy in anything she said,
and she wasn't sitting there doing those pregnant pauses and stuff.
I think she delivered the answers to the questions quite
good and quite rapidly, and normally that indicates that there's
nothing to hide. She's just telling you what he knows,
right or allegedly knows.

Speaker 1 (02:24:04):
That's what it's all about. We're going to continue on
with the UFO Report with our good friend Little Timmy
James here on spaced Out Radio and he's going to
bring more UFO news to you, So stick around. A
lot of good stuff coming in the last half hour
tonight's show.

Speaker 2 (02:24:28):
This is spaced Out Radio and your host.

Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
By the way, I don't know if you heard me
during one of the breaks earlier talking to Michelle Eilis
the Navajo Warrior. There was a note put on my
desk when I came into studio and the two goofballs. Oh,

(02:25:12):
we're basically making fun of Navajo Warrior and his retirement,
basically claiming that he, you know, was chicken and that's
why he chose to retire before facing them in the ring.

Speaker 2 (02:25:27):
Oh gosh, yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (02:25:30):
I thought it was. I thought it was really rude
and disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (02:25:34):
Personally, I'd say, I'd say, what jerks, I hate those guys.
I don't. I don't, and I'm glad I haven't seen
him in a while actually they're horrible people. But how
did you get a note on your desk?

Speaker 1 (02:25:48):
I don't know. I think that I think one of
them has a key to my house.

Speaker 2 (02:25:56):
Oh great, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:25:58):
Like I literally walked in the door into the studio.
I'm having a good night, and I look down on
my you know, I got my notepad there, yep, and
there's a note there.

Speaker 8 (02:26:07):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:26:08):
And I'm thinking, oh my god, I.

Speaker 2 (02:26:11):
Didn't know either one of those guys knew how to
write or print. Well apparently they did. Yeah, no kidding,
that's all right. I'm gonna have to put I have
to put a game cam in your in your student.

Speaker 1 (02:26:25):
You're gonna have to gonna have to.

Speaker 2 (02:26:29):
Keep them buggers out right. Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:26:34):
Horrible stuff, horrible words.

Speaker 2 (02:26:37):
Oh kidding. So, speaking of which, has uh Navajo Warrior
pulled the plug already or is he coming now?

Speaker 1 (02:26:43):
The retirement match is coming on up. Michelle responded in
the chat room that uh Navajo Warrior would always come
back for one more match against Elovni Volador and El fantasmo.

Speaker 2 (02:26:59):
Oh, I'd love to see that.

Speaker 1 (02:27:01):
Yeah, my money is on Navaja Warrior.

Speaker 2 (02:27:04):
Oh yeah, no question, big time, no question, big time. Wow,
he'd come back for that.

Speaker 1 (02:27:11):
Eh, hold on, Von Patrick, hold on, Dave, time for
a shave. I have some family members passed through your
stomping grounds. Is going to see if you could put
them up for the night. But hey, I couldn't have
you hate me for eternity. Oh I would have just
said him to little Timmy James's house. Yeah, they could

(02:27:32):
have cuddled with Mollie and and the other two dogs.

Speaker 2 (02:27:36):
Oh yeah, Or we could have cuddled had him cuddled
with the bear off behind the trailer there, that'd be perfect.

Speaker 1 (02:27:42):
There you go, Lex Diaz. How are you? Debor Roony?
Why does doctor Pepper come in a bottle?

Speaker 2 (02:27:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:27:52):
Is this one of Deb's jokes? Is this a dot
Safe for work joke?

Speaker 2 (02:28:00):
Because the specimen cup's too small?

Speaker 14 (02:28:01):
I don't know, oh, Deb, Oh no, oh that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (02:28:22):
Oh that's horrible. No, how do you explain that one?

Speaker 2 (02:28:32):
You don't? You know.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
It's almost getting to the point with Deb that you
can't read what she says. You just can't, because it's
like you in the studio the other night when he
made me laugh.

Speaker 2 (02:28:46):
I know, right, need the seven second delay, right?

Speaker 1 (02:28:52):
Oh, oh my goodness, Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:29:01):
Oh that'll be going around and work tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:29:03):
Yes, it will. Thank you, Von Patrick. We've got a
minute here.

Speaker 2 (02:29:11):
Okay, what kind of bottle? Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
Here we go, and this is where we lose control
of our YouTube audience. You bet the countdown has already expired.
Speaking of which, thank you to Michelle Times two, Dutch, Hank,
Pam Harris, j CEO, Von Patrick, Science, Bob Cat Chaser

(02:29:42):
and Michelle Times two for the super chats. Greatly appreciate
your love and support. Remember, if you are a member
on our YouTube side, you can watch the next episode.
I'm gonna post it for Friday. Friday afternoon, you get
the early version of the next edition of Secrets of

(02:30:03):
the Forest. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do for the members.
Got to be a member to see it. The rest
of you will have to wait till Sunday.

Speaker 2 (02:30:12):
Yeah, this will be awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:30:14):
Yeah, it will be awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:30:34):
We've rounded third. We're heading for home tonight. On spaced
Out Radio, my name is Dave Scott. We love you guys.
Tuning us in to enjoy the WU with us and
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(02:30:56):
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(02:31:20):
in for the UFO Report. He is always here each
and every week, hanging on out with us, telling us
about the latest UFO news. What do you got for us? Him?

Speaker 2 (02:31:30):
All right? The search for first hand whistleblowers would direct
hands on experience in alleged UAP or UFO reverse engineering
programs has intensified, with Jeremy Corbel addressing the issue in
a recent interview on The Mechanized podcast. Corbel expressed frustration
over the barriers preventing such witnesses from coming forward, emphasizing

(02:31:53):
the urgency for their testimony. There are people who have
been in the rooms, who have seen the craft, who
have worked on the technology, he stated, underscoring the existence
of individuals with intimate knowledge of these programs. However, he
cautioned that these potential whistleblowers face severe constraints, noting the
system is designed to science or silence them, legal threats,

(02:32:18):
career destruction, you name it. Corbel highlighted the challenges of
bringing these accounts to light, saying we're close, but it's
a battle. These folks are scared, and the ones who've
seen the real stuff, the hardware, they're buried under layers
of secrecy. He also addressed the lack of verifiable evidence
from firsthand sources, stating we've got people like Barber talking

(02:32:39):
about retrievals, but we need the ones who were hands
on for years, not just moments. Corbel stressed the need
for protection, her protection's warnings. Without real safeguards, you're asking
these people to risk everything for nothing. The comments reflect
a broader tension within the UFO disclosure community, where the

(02:33:00):
absence of concrete, first hand accounts continues to hinder progress.
Corbel remained resolute, saying I'm not giving up. There are
people out there who know, and we're gonna find a
way to get the truth out despite the obstacles. His
remarks suggests a persistent effort to uncover those with direct experiences.

(02:33:20):
Those significant hurdles remain in breaking through the wall of
secrecy surrounding alleged UFO programs. Very good interview. It was
pretty blunt. I watched it and I was actually surprised.
You know, for me, I didn't realize how some of
these people that are working with NDAs and in super

(02:33:43):
top classified compartments, departments, wherever locations they man, they are
combed through every single moment of their life. For example,
I was quite surprised. And you can watch the interview

(02:34:04):
on whatever you X or whatever or on his podcast,
but it surprised me. He was telling me that, you
know what will happen is Dave works for a three
letter agency that's you know, reverse engineering something. And then
Dave's significant other is cheating. So Dave goes, ah, forget it.

(02:34:27):
I'm done, I'm over this. I don't care anymore. My
life's worthless. I'm just gonna go blit and blurt out
everything I know because nothing matters anymore. Well, they already,
the overseers are watching this all the time. They know
where Dave's significant other is going, they know where dave
significant other has been, They know what that person is

(02:34:52):
doing in their spare time. On their lunch breaks, on
their days off, and they're one step ahead, so they
know what's going on, and they're already prepared for Dave
to lose it and blurt it out, so they dive
on that. I was like, holy man, like, they watch everything,

(02:35:13):
everything that's going on in your life, every single thing.
And he was like, that's why these guys don't come out.
They can't say anything because when they've got the idea
to do it, the overseers are already twenty steps ahead,
knowing that you were going to do it. I was like, oh, okay,
that's a different concept.

Speaker 1 (02:35:33):
Oh I would agree with you one hundred percent, you know,
I really would, because in the end, there's a story there,
and within that story there are people, and within those
people there's information that we need in order to help
move this ball forward. And if every door is closed,

(02:35:54):
eventually the door is going to close on whistleblowers. The
door is going to close on their protection. The door
is going to close on the information highway that we
need open. Yes, now we need proper whistleblowers. We just

(02:36:14):
don't need new names. Okay, you know it's it's like
was spaced out radio in the position you had before you,
it was Courtney Marcasani. Before Courtney it was it was
Tim seenor when we started it up. Okay, we need
It's one thing to have names, but it's another thing
for people like yourself and Courtney and Tim who were

(02:36:36):
willing to put in the work to bring in the news.

Speaker 2 (02:36:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:36:39):
We need people who are going to bring that information
to the public. Otherwise it's all going to be just
one giant failure and egg on our face once again.

Speaker 2 (02:36:49):
Right right, Oh, I understand that totally. I just I
was shocked. I mean I think I had I had
ideas or you know, yeah, I guess ideas of what
would you know they're watching and I get it like
your top secret, but the rest, like he goes on
and there's some other stuff in there and I'm not gonna,

(02:37:10):
you know, spoiler alert everything because you might want to
go check it out. It was a really blunt interview
and very animated and he just laid it out and
I thought, for the first time for me with Corbell,
it was he grabbed my attention. He always grabs the attention,
and sometimes it's not always a positive way. It's a
negative or it's an attitude that makes you watch. But

(02:37:32):
this one seemed to be a lot more genuine and
a lot more Yeah, just blunt and straight to the
point and no sensationalism. This is what it is, and
this is what we need to do. And you're right.
Hopefully there is a way to bring these people out
and out from under the thumb and provide them solace

(02:37:52):
and protection, knowing that they can speak out, they can
do this, and I really hope, I'm sure all of
us do not. Just for the sake of the everything
moving forward, I mean that's huge, but also just for
the these are like you said, these are human beings.
These are people, and they have families and lives, and yeah,
let's bring them out and protect them. Let's get this

(02:38:14):
stuff on the table. You know, you can't take out
the king. You got to take out the pillars before
the king falls, right, So let's start taking out pillars.

Speaker 1 (02:38:22):
What else you got for us?

Speaker 2 (02:38:24):
Well? In another interview, this one with Jordan Pearson, doctor
Gary Nolan, Stanford University immunologist, made a striking assertion evidence
suggests a non human presence has existed on Earth for
an extended period, leading him to conclude that the planet
may be somebody else's property in quotes. The statement drawn

(02:38:47):
from Nolan's research into UFOs has drawn attention from both
scientific and public spheres. Nolan, who has collaborated with government
agencies as we Know on UAP investigations, revealed that an
individual claiming White House affiliation contacted him, urging him to
cease discussing his findings. Nolan claims or Nolan's claims stem

(02:39:10):
from his analysis of materials and data link to the
UFO sightings, which he argues point to technological signatures beyond
current human capabilities. He emphasized that his conclusion is provisional
based on ongoing research, but the implications challenge conventional understanding
of humanity's place in the cosmos. The alleged White House

(02:39:31):
intervention has raised questions about transparency and government stance on
UFO related disclosure. Critics, of course, argue Nolan's assertion's lacks
sufficient evidence, noting that extraordinary claims require robust data. Supporters, however,
point to his credentials an assess to classified materials as

(02:39:54):
lending weight to his statements. The call from the White House,
if true, suggests an effort to manage narratives surrounding UFOs,
a topic that has gained traction obviously in the last
few years, more so with all the stuff that's been
going on. Nolan's remarks add a provocative dimension to the debate,
profiting calls for greater scientific scrutiny and openness for government

(02:40:16):
institutions as the decision unfolds. The question whether Earth's hosts
or has hosted non human entities remains remains unresolved, leaving
room for both skepticism and curiosity. That was kind of
a reader's digest version of it. Again. I watched this
interview and he was pretty colorful and animated about it

(02:40:45):
and kind of leading people. It was a trust me
bro moment, granted, but yeah, he seemed he seemed staunch
on saying they're out there, They've been here for years.
This isn't our planet, this is theirs, where science experiment
on and on and on and on. So I was like, okay,
pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:41:05):
Which pretty much contradicts everything that Anapolina Luna said today
right on the Joe Rogan podcast. You know, I watched
little bits and pieces of that Gary Nolan interviewed with
Jordan Peterson, and I was glad Jordan Peterson went down
that road because him being a clinical psychologist, you know,
working with the mind. I would love to see him

(02:41:27):
go deeper into this, especially with et abductees. You know,
that would be phenomenal to actually see. But the fact
that he took on this subject with Gary Nolan I
thought was pretty brave. I thought it was good. But
it contradicts everything that Anapolina Luna was saying, especially looking
at the religious aspects of the phenomena and the biblical

(02:41:51):
aspects of it all. That one kind of threw me off.

Speaker 2 (02:41:53):
Guard's for sure, me too. And what was it? Yeah,
and speaking of that, what did you say? There was
chapters that were that have been removed and verses that
have been removed that basically point to extraterrestrial life and
what have you. So, yeah, that that was pretty interesting
as well. I was like ooing, what But yeah, definitely

(02:42:17):
definite distinct contradiction between the two of them speaking, that's
for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:42:22):
Oh for sure. Nine minutes to us.

Speaker 2 (02:42:26):
I've got another one. So this happened on the seventh
of August of this year. So a startling account emerged
detailing an alleged encounter by Eddie Abbot with a UFO
that has intensified discussion about the their presence. Abbot, a
retired military analyst, described a transparent craft hovering eight feet

(02:42:48):
above his head, exhibiting properties he termed living metal and
including time distortion effects, raising questions about the nature of
such sightings and their implications for humanity. So, according to
Abbot's account, the craft appeared almost ethereal, its surface shifting
as it as if composed of a fluid or an

(02:43:10):
adaptive material. He reported an unsettling sensation of slow time
or time slowing or warping, with seconds stretching into what
felt like minutes. The object, silent and devoid of visible propulsion,
lingered briefly before vanishing, leaving Abbot disoriented but unharmed. This
vivid description aligns with a growing number of UFO reports

(02:43:32):
that challenge conventional aerospace explanations. So skeptics question the veracity
of Abbot's claim, noting the absence of corroborating evidence like
video or sensor data. High definition monitoring systems, both terrestrial
and satellite based, are known to operate continuously, yet no
official confirmation of Abbot citing his surface. Critics argue that

(02:43:55):
the personal testimonies, while compelling often lack the rigor needed
to sustain jad these extraordinary claims. Conversely, proponents of the
UFO research point to the consistency of Abbot's description with
other whistleblowers accounts, such as those referencing classified programs like
Immaculate Constellation, which allegedly tracked non human craft globally. Abbots

(02:44:20):
encounter also raised technical questions about the reported living metal
and time distortion effects. Some scientists speculate that such phenomenon
could be involved could involve events, meta materials, or manipulations
of space time, though these remain theoretically. The lack of

(02:44:40):
accessible data continues to hinder progress, with experts calling for dedicated,
transparent observation systems to study UFOs in real time. The
reported citing whether a glimpse of advanced technology or something
more profound, has underscored the persistent mystery surrounding them with
public skepticism. Rising polls in indicate that over two thirds

(02:45:02):
of Americans, and this Americans only believe the government conceals
UFO truth. Abbot's account may pressure authorities to address these
enigmas more openly. For now, the transparent craft and its
otherworldly effects remain another unsolved puzzle. So there was drawings
and pictures that were with this. When I read the

(02:45:25):
article and kind of, yeah, you know, I think that
people in high places and with big jobs and have
huge brains don't know how to draw. They really tell me,
because I was like, what the heck is that? But yeah,
it was. It was kind of one of those hmmm.

(02:45:46):
And what got me was the liquid metal thing, because
I've heard of that. I've heard of that and some
reports before people see it looks like it's made of
liquid metal and it's not a solid piece. So is
it the heat signatures or you know, like when you
see the heat radiating off a road, or is that
really what's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:46:04):
I don't know. I really don't know these transparent you know.
I'm just going to put it in terms that I
can understand, especially after what happened this past weekend in
the forest. This whole transparency thing, and I'm not talking

(02:46:24):
disclosure transparency that doesn't exist, but I'm saying, like cloaking
transparency that UFOs, cryptids and everything seems to have. It's
messing with my head, man, I agree with you, it's
messing with my head. I just I don't get it.
I don't understand how these beings, individuals, craft, whatever you

(02:46:50):
want to call it, have the ability to just you know,
flick a switch and all of a sudden they're translucent.

Speaker 2 (02:46:57):
Yeah, and it's mind blowing really because and I mean
I've sat around and I've thought about that stuff, and
you know, you obviously when you're doing your research or
when you're reading and stuff and you read, you know,
like things like this, you go okay. So sometimes it's like, okay, yeah,
this is like the four hundred and ninety seven thousandth
person that's described it this way. But every once in

(02:47:20):
a while you come across somebody that describes it and
you go, Okay, that's new to me anyway. You know,
maybe I mentioned it to you and you go, oh, yeah,
I've heard that a thousand times. But yeah, some of
the stuff is like okay. And with us, like you say,
being up at flight twenty one, Yeah, there's so much.

(02:47:41):
There's so much coming at us, and trying to decipher
all of it I think would make us boltial insane
really until it starts coming out. But yeah, especially with
all this, with the UFO stuff and the and the
crafts that it just I'll.

Speaker 1 (02:47:57):
Give you a weird story. I have never told you
this story. Okay, when we lived in Mission, British Columbia,
we were over at a friend's house for a meditation
and there was about ten of us. There. After the meditation,
we walk outside and we go into the forest because

(02:48:17):
we wanted to show them where we had the big
foot encounter. Come out of the forest. Part of me,
the alien encounter with Samantha, her and I, the one
Her and I had. We come out of the forest.
The guy who owns the house looks up at this
guy and says, hey, what's that. There is a translucent
orb hovering above the house. Now probably I would say

(02:48:43):
a thousand feet or so in the air, Okay, okay,
not very high, not very low. So we watched this
for about half an hour and then we had to
head home. So we end up drive been on home
and as it's about a five six mile drive, not far,

(02:49:08):
and we get home and I go outside of my
patio because i want to see where this translucent orb is.
Right and I'm looking in the direction of my friend's house,
which is west. Can't see it. Look over top of
my house and it's now over top of my house.

Speaker 2 (02:49:29):
Shut out.

Speaker 1 (02:49:30):
It was over top of my house for two and
a half hours.

Speaker 2 (02:49:34):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (02:49:35):
And then it went north and eventually disappeared. Hmmm by
like the three hour three hour fifteen market was gone wow.

Speaker 2 (02:49:48):
Yeah, so this is okay, So that this was an
orb obviously, no sounds, no.

Speaker 1 (02:49:55):
Nothing, wow. And for all I know, for the record,
because not everything is wo I love the woo, want
the woo. Everything should be woo. You know, I'm a wooholic. Okay,
But for the record, it could have been one of
those weather balloons, those those that the universities test. It

(02:50:17):
could have been I don't know if it was or not,
but it could have been. What color was it translucent?

Speaker 2 (02:50:29):
Okay? So this was during the at night daytime? Okay,
that makes more sense. I was like, hay, I sac
hmm hmm. No little basket underneath it for passengers or.

Speaker 1 (02:50:43):
There's no baskets underneath you know. There was no angels
flying around it, there was, there was not much. I
was just still thinking, you know, it looked like one
of those oversized beach balls.

Speaker 2 (02:51:00):
Yeah, but it followed you six miles from a friend's
place to your host. Yes, I don't think that. I
don't think that that's the beach ball or weather balloon.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:51:11):
I don't know what it was, but it's one of
the interesting pieces of WO that Dave has in his
WU closet.

Speaker 2 (02:51:19):
Yeah, just need some more WU, buddy.

Speaker 1 (02:51:24):
Next to the Dave Boxer shorts that you could get
on our website s based out Radio dot com. M hm,
those are pretty awesome. We're gonna do a pair of
Little Timmy James ones here too, No, why not? Why not?
My brother? We will talk to you tomorrow night for
the abbreviated version of the UFO Report. You were absolutely

(02:51:48):
awesome as anything, and I'm very much excited to hang
out with you all weekend with Lee and Merle as well.
It's going to be a great, great time as we
get ready to say good night to Little Timmy James
and the US FAUX Report and hello to mister Ron.
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