Aug. 15/25 - PARANORMAL & ANOMALOUS : Realizing The Phenomena Is REAL !!!! w/ Krista & Brandi

Tonight we talk paranormal, UFO'S & Cryptids

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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be a fantastic night. We have Christa and Brandy from
Blanze and Booz joining this talking paranormal for hours one
and two. I believe we'll have Christian McLeod jumping in
for our three and Steve Starkon tells and told mister
person mysteries. Guys, let's get ready to go. You're reading

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Once again we have Christa and Brandy joining us from
Blonds and Booze and guess what, we're not gonna waste
any time. We're getting ready to jump directly into the

(01:38):
show immediately and bring up our guests here for the night.
We have Christa and then there's Brandy. Hello, Hi, Hi there.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Good to see everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yes, yes, you know this feeling Infiday Scott here tonight.
This is the first I don't think I've ever interviewed
you guys before, so it's definitely an honor having you
guys here tonight, this opportunity. I was checking out your
podcast a little earlier tonight your live streams you guys
did so okay, awesome steph Yeah BMR on there, which
is awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I'd like to do

(02:13):
the way, you know, first time meeting always, we want
to get to know where everybody came from. How'd you
get to this point? Why Blinds and Booze why take
that turn. Let's talk about it tonight. Either one of
you can start first, Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Brandy go in.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh, well, the paranormal has been part of my life
since I was very young, as long as I can remember.
It has been something that is very natural in my family.
So we've always been able to see apparitions, ghosts, to
always hear disembodied voices, things like that. So growing up
in my family was kind of easy when you can

(02:53):
see these things. You know, my mother made it very easy.
She just always would say, hey, you know, sometime times
those things happened, and it was just a normal, everyday
type of thing. And it's been something that's been with
me my whole entire life. And then of course I
met Christa and we became fast friends. And I'm gonna

(03:15):
let her continue on with that story.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, so my paranormal journey started many years ago when
I was a kid, and I was actually in high school.
I've told the story many times, but I've actually seen
a ghost and I know now it was a ghost
because I was with a friend and nobody.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Else saw it.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
And so that's, you know, pretty much how I started
into this. And as Brandy, you know, my my grandma
was into reiki and you know, things like that, so
just kind of you know, a natural thing too as Brandy.
And then as far as blondes and booze, it just started.
Actually me and another friend, Aaron, you know, COVID hit

(03:54):
and we'd like to talk weird stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
So she's like, well, hey, let's start a podcast.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I'm like okay, And so we did it for a
little bit, the two of us, and then you know,
we brought Brandy into the mix. And then since then,
you know, Aaron's went on to bigger and better things
and to school and it's all good.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
So here we are and it's just been Brandy and I.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Know that is awesome. That is awesome, and you know,
it is unique to hear two people in the same field,
especially this field that have you know, had support as
far as experiences go, you know, from like your parents,
things like that usually a stigma there. You don't bring

(04:34):
it up to your parents, but growing up in a
family like you both did. How were the conversations at
the dinner table. Is this something openly talked about or
is it just that it was accepted?

Speaker 4 (04:47):
So for me more so, it was accepted with my grandma,
but not like my mom or the rest of my family. Actually,
when my grandma passed away in twenty twelve, you know,
she had a bunch of crystals and things like that,
and my brother his words were, do you want Granny's rocks?
You know, so they're not you know, well they are

(05:08):
now more so because they know I do this, but
you know, they.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Weren't as open to it. So for me, that's how
it was.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
But you know, my grandma, I could talk about it
because you know, if I had a headache or something,
she would always be touching me. As a kid, you know,
touch my head or or you know, and I was like,
you know, what are you doing? And I didn't know
a lot about all of that, you know, and as
a kid, you know, you just want to be left alone,
like what the heck is she doing?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well I know now what she was doing. You know,
now I appreciate it, but back then, you know, it's like,
what are you doing? Granny?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
So that's how it, you know, kind of evolved for me.
But with my grandma it was good to talk about with.
And then now you know, like my own children, they're
open to it and they believe in it and you know,
know what I do and all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
So how about you, Brandy, how was your family growing
up with this phenomenon?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, it was just it was talked about openly, but
it it just it was just like another thing to
talk about. It was just like, oh I saw this today,
or da da da, or do you know who this
person could be? Or what did What's something I heard
or something that was said or you know, we just
talked about things like that. It was it was very
very simple, very easy. We didn't we didn't have any

(06:17):
issues talking about it. It was just normal. It was
just like a normal conversation, like we would talk about
what happened in school that day, you know, which is
very simple and very normal. She did try to, you know,
make sure that I felt good about myself, that I
that you know, I didn't feel different from the other
kids or anything like that. And my mom's still one

(06:39):
of our biggest supporters today. I mean, she watches Blonds
and Booze faithfully every episode and if she's awake now,
she's probably watching this right now.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
That is awesome. You know, I yearned for the day
that my mother tunes into my programming every night, you know,
she's not. She's she's open, but she's not there yet, right,
So I'm hoping this year, this year she'll become a fan.
I mean, she understands what's going on. She knows there's
something weird going on out there for you both, you know,

(07:10):
going to school obviously, if you're dealing with this so
young you go to school, are your friends aware of
what you're into? Are they into it too? Or is
this something that ever came.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Up so back then?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
No, because I didn't even realize when I saw the
ghost that it was a ghost back then. However, now
since then, you know, everybody knows what I do now,
and I mean it's and I've reconnected with a lot
of people that I did go to high school with,
and a lot of them have come forward and told me,
you know, like their encounters. One friend had a dog
man encounter. Another friend had an encounter with a puck wedgie,

(07:46):
you know. So it's like they come forward now that
they know what I do, and you know, talk about
the dead and we've had several you know, come to
some of our events and things like that.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So, yeah, what is your outlook on the phenomena? What
do you think is really going on here if you
look thirty thousand foot view. Well, I guess before you
answer that question, a lot of people feel like, and
I might get myself included, that that the phenomenon is
the umbrella and then everything else falls beneath it. I

(08:16):
think it's all interconnected in some way that we just
don't know yet. What is your outlook on the phenomena?
How would you explain it to someone who doesn't know
what this is?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, it's you know, it's it's called paranormal for a reason,
you know, and and all of it, I believe, you
know that the ghost side of things, the cryptid side
of things, the UFO alien type stuff. You know, it's
all connected somehow. We just haven't figured it out yet.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
So that's why we come on and you know, we
do our shows and learn from others and you know,
and that's that's what we do.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Hopefully we can all have that answer one day.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah. How about you, Brandy?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh, I'm pretty much pretty much the same way. I mean,
that's why Kristin and I get along so well. As
you know, we have a lot of the same ways
of thinking, which makes you know, which makes even you know, discussions.
Like I could call her up and say, hey, you
know what happened today, and I will tell her about
something and she'd be like, really that happened today, and
then we'll start talking about these issues. So I mean,

(09:16):
it's always good to have that friend. During school, I
didn't really talk about it, so none of my friends
really talked about it, so I didn't have that problem.
But looking at it now, I still I've been doing
this for years and years, investigating and looking for answers
and things like that. I find a lot of evidence,

(09:38):
but I'm finding no answers. So I mean, to me,
it's still all unexplained, and I'm still just as confused
as ever how this is actually happening.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
You what part of the phenomena do you focus mostly on,
Because I know you guys dibbling all of it, but
what do you focus mostly on?

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I would say, you know know, for me, for me personally,
it was ghosts for many years, you know, that was
my go to. However, in the last five years, I've
really really gotten into the cryptids, and I don't know,
there's something about like dog Man that I'm really attracted to.
So I honestly to this point I mean, I love
I love ghosts, I love haunted locations, I love the history.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
However, I would rather go to the woods.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, yeah, and I see that, and you know, we
are drawn to cryptids. But we're finding out that as
we're out in the woods and as we're you know,
investigating and all that kind of stuff, you know, we
are seeing spirits. We are getting you know, all kinds
of different things that you wouldn't think would be associated
with the woods, you know, EVPs and the equipments that

(10:51):
would normally be used in a haunted location we're taking
out in the field with us now because that is
also helping us locate some stuff. It's just amazing how
we're finding how this is really connected and we're trying
to figure out how.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah. So when we talk about those that have passed on,
and this is something I always bring up and talk
to paranormal investigators, what is the veil to you? Like,
if you were to describe the veil, because I feel
like these it now. I've had experience with the shadow

(11:29):
person myself, so which I consider sort of paranormal, but
it's almost like for me, we're peeking through the veil
into I guess another realm where these things might be existing,
or this is the question that I have, Is it
that they exist here in this realm with us? We

(11:50):
just don't always we're not always able to tune in
to view these things. Like which way would you go
with that?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Me personally, I kind of think like, you know, some creatures,
some like ghosts, some some things are in another world,
but I feel like it's close to us though it's
right here, and I feel like a lot of them
can come in and out, you know, like through portals
and things like that, to you know, come here to

(12:22):
this area. So for me, I would say that it's
all definitely connected. And you know, it's just you know,
like the orbs things like that. You know, for a
long time, I had associated orbs only with the paranormal,
with ghosts, because that's the only time I ever I
saw with my eyes, I saw orbs. And well then

(12:45):
I'm out in the middle of the land between the
lakes with Brandy and other people and we're seeing these
orbs out in the middle of the woods in the
middle of winter and there was nobody out there. So
you know, it's all it's all connected. We just haven't
figured out how yet mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I want to say that the veil to me is
just more like a doorway between our world and what
lies beyond. And I think that sometimes, you know, we
can open doorways and let things in, and then I
believe that other times that some spirits have the ability
to kind of, you know, dance back and forth. I've

(13:27):
noticed that a lot, especially when we're hearing encounter stories
of ghosts and loved ones. You know that you're you know,
you your loved ones that have now passed, and how
they'll come and they'll visit, but then they're gone. They
may not ever see or hear from them at all
after they've gone, you know, through the veil. I think

(13:49):
a lot of it is today that the veil is thinning,
and I believe it's because of the awareness of a
lot of people now it is it is not as
taboo to talk about ghosts and seeing apparitions in these things.
And I believe the more that we bring this out
into the open, the thinner this veil is going to get,

(14:12):
you know. And again it's it's it's all comes down
to investigations and trying to figure out how and why
these things. It is such a mystery. I guess that's
why it keeps us going. You know, it's not not
only to help people, I guess deal with these things,
especially since COVID. COVID was a really weird time where

(14:36):
people were at home and they were noticing more things
going on in their home than they had ever noticed
before because they were there more often, they paid more attention.
And since then, you know, there have been a lot
lot more reports of that, so I you know, it's
they want to say the veils thinning because of that.
I don't think so. I think it's it's been thitting.

(14:59):
It's just now we're realizing that it's doing that, and
more people are seeing it because more people are at home,
they're doing that, you know, they work from home and
all kinds of stuff still, and you know, I'm super
excited for them. I'm like, now you're saying what I'm saying,
So I'm excited, you know, And I love hearing all

(15:19):
the stories about it. It just it just fascinates me.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
The awareness piece that means a lot, and it would
totally explain why the perception is the veils thinnings because
people are just waking up becoming more aware. That makes
total sense. Now. One of the questions that I always
have as well, and I just want to hear your
perspectives on this is that realm? Right? So we were

(15:45):
dealing and I'll go back to my shadow person. It
was initially for me considered to be paranormal. I have
all these different weird things happening. But then I listen
to someone talk after about a year and they described
shadow people potentially is maybe being cloaked extraterrestrials or even

(16:10):
as far as you know, not just spirits, but extraterrestrials
or even astro travelers. That's what I wanted to say.
So that realm. So I'm wondering, like, what is your
perspective on what that realm is? Is it just that
paranormal exists there? Or is it possible that all these

(16:32):
things that we're dealing with exists there in this other realm.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I personally think all of it is possible, all of it.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, I that's that's a tough question. I mean, that
is a really really tough question, you know, because people
always think that aliens come from outer space. I'm I'm
I'm not so sold on that. I think that they
are actually living here. On Earth, and they could be
perhaps under our oceans. I mean, we haven't even explored

(17:05):
a big percentage of that at all. So I believe
some are here and have always been here. As for
what I think the veil is, I hi, gosh, that
is tough. That is tough. I do believe it is
just the wall that just divides us, you know, And

(17:29):
it's kind of like being in like a hotel room
and the walls of paper thin. You can hear everything
that's going on over there, and you know what's going
on over there. The only thing is is you just
can't see it.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
But you open up that connecting door you can put
on you know, you can put all of it together.
You can see what they're doing, you can hear what
they're doing, all of that. So it's just a matter
of you know, being able to get through that door.
And like I said, I think everything is just thinning out.
I really really do. Just just like we talked about

(18:04):
the pure awareness of everybody, and and they're they're finally going, hey,
these people aren't crazy. Now now now I'm seeing this stuff,
and and they're they're understanding that there is there is
more to it. After we pass, There is an afterlife,
there are things that do go on after this, and
that's why we're still investigating, is to figure out why

(18:27):
do they still want to be here? Why why are
they still is kind of like they're stuck. Is this
what we would call purgatory? Is this you know, just
you know, it's just another place to be. Is it's
just another stop on their way to wherever they're going
for their higher power, which you know, which that's all

(18:47):
based on your religious views and all of that, and
and hey, I'm here for all of it. You know,
I don't care what what religious backgrounds you have. I
want to hear about it.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, that purgatory piece. That's something I thought about too.
I brought this up to someone in an interview one time,
and I don't see what your perspective is on this,
that that purgatory piece, because I'm thinking, you know, you
have a lot of I guess residual spirit energies that
I guess connect to certain locations or even certain physical things,

(19:24):
personal items. So you know, it was for me, I'm like, Okay,
how long would does a spirit sit there and remain
accessible to this realm or to this world before they
move on or is it somewhere where they never move
on from that middle point? And I kind of describe

(19:47):
it like, you know, maybe being on the edge of
the pool, right, so you kind of cling to the
edge of the pool because you're too afraid to kind
of swim out there into the deep bend. But then
eventually you do. Right. So that is that maybe something
that's happening here with these spirits where they are just
afraid to kind of move on and see what that

(20:10):
is out there, or you know, what their ultimate destination is.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I think for some of them myself, I think so,
you know, I think spirits are here for all different reasons.
Maybe some are stuck in you know, what's called purgatory.
I don't know, but I think, you know, anythinking cause
really a spirit to stay here, you know, be an
attachment to an item or a house or a location
or you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
So whatever is.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Keeping them here, maybe they you know, died suddenly and
don't even know that they're dead.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, that could be at too, you know, so
I think I think purgatory.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
You know, maybe some of them are scared to cross
over too, you know, maybe because they don't know what's
on the other side, maybe they weren't so good in life,
you know, so maybe they are scared to crossover.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well, I I kind of have the theory that once
we pass, time becomes irrelevant. We have no idea what
time is anymore. So, I mean, what would seem like
like a decade for us could be a minute for
anybody that's already passed. And on the other side, they
have no idea because time is a human thing here

(21:21):
on earth. This was that we all do everything by time.
I think once that I think shackle is released, everything
is different. Yeah, so, and I do believe that we
are tied down by time that you know, we have
to be to work on time. We have to get
the kids to school on time. We have to do

(21:42):
everything on time, you know, we have to be okay
here on the show, we have to be there on time.
It's but after that, after we pass, we are just
who we are now. Once I think, once you get
past that veil, I don't know, it'd be interesting one
day to know, But I don't know how long that
they would stay there, if there is even a set

(22:04):
time limit, or if it is when they get over
their grievances or you know, they're they're ready to go,
because I believe that some are basically tied to us
as a you know, as humans, because they still want
to believe they're alive. They want to still have that
feeling they that they're a part of this society, and

(22:28):
they just are not quite ready to go. But there
are many reasons I think that ghosts are here, and
part is the the you know, the purgatory or or
the in between is a good a good way to
put it, the in between or or maybe you know,
the higher power things say you're just not ready yet.

(22:50):
You know, we're gonna We're gonna let you wait a
little bit, let's think about it, and we'll come back
to you. So, I mean, it'll be interesting one day
to find out, and we're all gonna find out, you know,
our day will come and we'll all find out, and
then we're gonna be like aha, now I know.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, definitely, And you know, and I always bring this
up as well, there's a movie Flat Liners that you know,
where you're kind of dipping your toe into what that
realm is, but then also able to come back and
tell the story. We're gonna be going to break here
in about twenty seconds here, and I guess we'll pick
that right back up on the out side of the break. So, guys,

(23:29):
definitely I'm blind as a bat tonight out here, so
help me out. Make sure you put all your questions
in capital letters for me so I can tag those,
and we'll be back right after the break with Christa
and Brandy from Blonde and Booze right here on Space
Out Radio the after hours radio shows. See you guys
back here in a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Five minutes.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
All right, we are clear. We are clear, and ladies,
we have five minutes here. If you needed to do anything,
this would be the time to do it. Next break
in thirty minutes will be off camera as well, just
so you know. Okay, thank you, all right, and I
have a few people just snuck in here late. Let
me make sure we say hello to these people like

(24:41):
Kevin Kennedy, t M. I appreciate you coming on in
even if it is late. I'm glad you're here. Randy Victoria,
Alexander Kristin and Brandy are awesome nice. I'm finding that out.
Appreciate you coming on in tonight as well. Wo writers, DG.
I appreciate you chilling up here tonight. Beno, Hey, Beno,

(25:03):
appreciate you coming in. Let's see who else do we have?
Carrie Doyle, Appreciate you coming in. Carrie moving back here.
Jerry Carter, Hey, Jerry Carter, time is on our side.
I got it. Appreciate the comment. Thanks for coming in

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as well. We have Country Carpenter. Hey, Country Carpenter, thanks
for coming in. You said free will question mark if
you get more specific on what part of the conversation
you're referring to, I'll save that question. Let's see t Bone,

(25:46):
thanks for the awesome super chat here tonight. Thanks for
your support the spaced out radio. We surely do appreciate
that you as well. Carry Doyle. What exactly are you
seeing in relative in reference to what part of the combos?
You could elaborate a little bit on that question, repost
it and I will tag it. Appreciate you Aussie boss Tiger,

(26:13):
thanks for coming on in. Appreciate you showing up. Let's
see Fap, Hey, Fap saying big for the voids. Dave's
at night, he breaks win and the forest goes quiet
for two days. I could see that. I talked to
Day right for the show. They were getting ready to
go have some fun tonight and go out into the

(26:34):
woods tomorrow, so it should be awesome. Lee Strauss's out
there with them. I did talk to Lee as well,
and yeah, Merle was there as well. Merle and Merle said,
you guys would be awesome, and you guys are definitely awesome.
So far here tonight, Thank you last night, appreciate you coming.

(27:00):
Then let's see Standing Stone seventeen seventy six. Appreciate showing
on up. Yeah, miss Rob oh no, let's see uwriters

(27:21):
with Rob Gez didn't tell anyone as these glasses can
see aliens masquerading as humans. He knew who the Nhi
cloaking themselves were the whole time. I wish DG. I
wish my glasses were that magical, But they are magical
because they allow me to just see words, and that's
a big thing when trying to navigate this world, especially

(27:42):
doing this show. With this chat, I can kick myself
and out bringing my glasses.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
But yeah, I'm naked without mine.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I feel lost without.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Oh my gosh, I'm sitting here. I've never done it,
and I'm just like sitting here. I don't want to
squint too hard because then that was crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
But yeah I understand.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, getting O right. And I have a
stigmatism too, so I don't even think LA six can
can correct it. So stuck with frames on the face forever.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yep, I hear you.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Well, I had LASIX done a long time ago and
it did fix that, so you might want to look
into it.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh yeah, okay, well I was somebody told me. I
think my eye doctor said that. Maybe I don't know,
someone did someone told me that, but I'm gonna, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Take take a look into it. Of course, the one
who did my my lasix was a doctor who did
who worked on diseases of the eye, so he was
very well in tune with all the problems with the
eye and he did a fantastic job. My only problem
is is I moved and I didn't go and you

(28:57):
got to get a refresher, like every ten years, you
got to get a refresher, and I did not do that,
and that was a problem.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, I would love to know with twenty twenty vision
with that glasses. Uh you know, I went so many
years of my life not thinking that I needed glasses
until I went to the eye doctor, and he put
me on the machine and I was like, oh, that's
what the world looks like.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Okay, yeah, I understand too well.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, it was like going from a regular TV to
a four K TV. It was I could read things
across the room. It was beautiful and I couldn't realize
that I couldn't see this old time. I'm like, yeah,
how did I do this?

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
But now I'm dependent on them. So now my eyes,
the muscles they're like weak and so when I when
I don't wear them, it kind of hurts a little bit.
You know this witness I get it. Yeah, a blind
man's troubles. We're coming back here in about five seconds. Guys,

(30:07):
let's get ready to give all right, everybody, welcome back
to faced Out Radio, the after hours radio show with
me your host, mister Rob g. We are back here
in the building with Christa and Brandy from Blonds and Booms.
You can find them on YouTube. You can find us
on YouTube as well. And the conversation we've had this far,

(30:28):
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you a don We have that all days. We go ahead,
get ready to jump right back in to the conversation. So,
I know we were into the veil conversation. So and
you know, I'm just I'm just thinking all the time.

(30:51):
If you can see inside my brain, it's just like,
so I'm sitting there trying to connect dots as we
all are as we have these conversations, and I'm just like,
what's more? And what's more? What makes more sense? Is it?
Does it make more sense that we have extraterrestrials visiting
us from somewhere else? Separate from that, we have encounters

(31:15):
with the hairy guy and named Sasquatch or Bigfoot, whatever
you want to call him, in the woods, we have
cryptid encounters. What's the likelihood that these things are all
separate things? Is it more likely that they are all related?
At some point? What do you guys think about that?
And I know you've had to think about this at

(31:35):
some point. What would you say to.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
That you want to go first? Brandy?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Well, I know, I know they're all connected. I mean,
to even look at the history of Bigfoot and aliens
and things like that. I mean, they have cave drawings
for goodness sakes, you know, they it goes back. So
far that. I mean, maybe they've always been here, this

(32:03):
is this is nothing new. Maybe it's just new to
us as a society that this is. You know that
they're more frequently seen now, I mean, because we have
cell phones, we you know, we travel more, the you know,
the social media or you know, we're seeing it a
lot more. But I just don't I think they're connected.

(32:27):
I just don't know how. I mean. I I mean,
some say that Bigfoot is is just an ape, that
that is just unidentified at this point, that is just
an unidentified ape. But I'm not sure of all that,
because all the encounter stories that we talk about on
our show and that we hear, they all they're they're
not all wrong, you know, you know, they they report

(32:50):
orbs being seen or some type of paranormal activity going
on before or after their sightings. We we are ourselves
have witnessed having like paranormal activity, and then all of
a sudden, we were looking up at the skies and
we're seeing UAP activity. Yep. So it's it's hard to say.

(33:14):
I mean, That's why I guess we keep going and
we keep searching, and we keep talking about this to
actually put our piece together in the puzzle, because that's
what I call it. It's one big puzzle and we're
just trying to keep adding pieces until we get the
full picture. And you know, I've always thought that Bigfoot

(33:36):
is a little bit more mysterious than just a regular animal.
I think it is more mystical, a little bit more
than that. And I've even thought about it being related
in the Fake family in some of this because of
some of the stories that we've heard. Now Chris and

(33:57):
I have had a real life and counter with Bigfoot,
and though we didn't see anything on the supernatural side,
paranormal side, anything like that associated with it, that doesn't
mean it doesn't happen. It's just what our encounter was
at that time, and there was there was nothing but

(34:18):
seeing this creature. So I don't know, I don't know.
I mean, I can't base it on everything that I've
seen because there's so many other people that have their
stories and what they've seen, and some that I that
I know that would never lie to me or never
embellish their story. So I have to take really what

(34:40):
they say to heart when they're telling me. So I mean,
I mean, I guess it's really hard to put a
definitive answer on anything, because nobody is an expert. Nobody,
there is absolutely no experts in this world on anything
that is is paranormal. Nothing. We can only speculate and

(35:02):
guests and things like that. But I'm hoping to actually
get a true answer at least one, just one. That's
all I want to know, is just one.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
We have a location that we investigate quite a bit
that our paranormal team has exclusive rights to, and we
have had We've been sitting there doing you know, bigfoot
stuff here in tree knocks, here in Howells, and yet
looking into the building and we have ghost activity and
I kid you not. We look into the sky and

(35:35):
that night we've seen over twenty Brandy can attest UFOs
and the sky. So to me, I have no doubt
that they're connected. I just don't know how they're connected.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Right, you know. And people are like, well, how do
you know they're UFOs? How do you know their UAPs? Well,
let me tell you how. Because we keep track of
the satellites. One of our team, you know, keeps an
app that tells her where exactly the satellites are and
where they're moving and what flight pattern they're on. We

(36:09):
also know the flight patterns of any of the local
airports or anything like that, so we keep track of
that too and which way they would be going. And
then of course the other flight patterns from the smaller airports,
well they have to be registered with the bigger ones,
so they know where those airplanes are. So we pretty
much know what, you know, we as humans are doing

(36:32):
out there with you know, the airplanes and the satellites
and things like that. It's those other little lights that
were not quite sure of what they are, especially when
they're out there and they have a different kind of
light system and how they have erratic movement and things

(36:52):
that are just not known of aircraft that is made
today that could move like that. Sure, so we have
to take that all into consideration when we're saying, hey,
that is a UFO, that is what that is, because
we have gone through all of our bases and made
sure that this can be nothing that a man made,

(37:15):
you know, you know, a plane. So I mean, we
really try to do our research, this research this. But
when she's talking about seeing those that night though, we're
sitting out there like we're in the woods and we're listening,
but we can also see the back of the asylum.
So and now the asylum is like four floors, but

(37:36):
on the top floor we're watching someone or something walking
through there with like a dim flash like shining the
light in the rooms. You can see it right through
the windows. Its own independent light source coming through those windows.
And we are all outside.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Absolutely there is no living people in that building.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Not one. But yet we're also hearing like large movement. Yeah,
we're hearing large movement out in the woods, and we're
hearing the tree knocks, and then we're getting these unknown howls,
which due to that location, there was a dog man
siding that was very close to there, and Krista has

(38:18):
dubbed that dog Man Road, but it's only what like
a mile or two miles as a profile, yep, so
it's only that far from it, but it sounds weird.
Now we have caught this on audio, and we've sent
this off to people who are cryptozoologists, you know, people

(38:39):
who study these things and you know, to make sure
that this is not anything that could be indigenous to
our area. So they have listened to it and nobody
can identify it. And not only is this happening at
nighttime when we're hearing this. It's also going off during
the day the day.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
The paranormal, I think is definitely something that I think
there's enough proof out there for a lot of people.
And people have a problem with the word proof, but
evidence whatever you want to call it, there's enough out there.
You know, there's videos where things have just flown off shelves.

(39:23):
You can't explain that. That's definitely obviously something to that.
You have UFOs doing weird things in the sky. As
Brandy stated earlier, we see that and we can confirm that.
Why does it seem like when it comes to the
bigfoot encrypted side of it, we don't get that sort
of you know, slam dunk evidence or something that at

(39:44):
least you know is more like sixty forty that there's
something going on there.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, good question.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I mean I feel like I feel like we're finding
out more and more because I think people are coming,
are talking about it more, and you know, like subdivisions
and shopping malls are going up in areas where you know,
was their homes, so more people are seeing them.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
So I do feel like we are hearing more about
it because of that. But you know, I don't know, Brandy, what.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Do you think, Well, I think everyone wants their fifteen
minutes of fame out there. We are getting just bombarded
by hoaxing material, videos and audio and you know, and
it sometimes it's very hard to distinguish what is real

(40:37):
and it's not real until we get it analyzed, which
is just crazy. I would like to think that when
people put this stuff out there, that they would say,
this is you know, this is absolutely you know, one
hundred percent real, and it was. But we're not getting that.
We're not getting that at all. We're getting so much
stuff that people are just trying to, you know, get

(40:59):
their name out there, get you know, get you know,
do something with a reputation, you know, try to get
some hype behind their name. But what they don't realize
is your name is everything you've got. Yes, your reputation
is everything that you've got, and once your labeled a hoaxer,
that's all you will ever be.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
We always tell people, you know, like we'll sit in
an empty building or sit out in the woods most
of the time and nothing is happening. You know, It's
it's not like it's constant, you know, there are some times,
you know, it's a little more active than others.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
So yeah, you know, my my favorite thing to say
is it's like watching paint and dry, you know, that's
what it is. But you know, we try different experiments
out there. We're trying to see what works, what doesn't work,
that sort of thing. Of course, I said earlier that
we are now bringing paranormal equipment out into the woods

(41:59):
because of the significant activity that that you know, that
there is. When we were in Land between the Lakes,
we noticed that a lot. But it has like two
hundred and forty sothing cemeteries within seven yeah, within the
land between the lakes. So there is a lot of

(42:22):
different type of activity which we've actually experienced out there,
including the orbs and everything like that. But then we
take like the location we're talking about, a may As,
we take that one now that also has uh cemeteries
on premises. It's you know, people have you know, passed
away in the buildings. There have been reports of cryptids

(42:44):
out in the woods. So I mean it's like the
trifecta sure, you know, and uh kind of if if
you will, like a long like Skinwalker ranch, because they
have all of that stuff going on, which then again
in return, this place is having all of that. Now,
I believe there's a bunch of places that are right

(43:06):
along that line that are having all of this activity,
like Skinwalker Ranch. They're just not as known, you know.
So we're doing we're doing research on lay lines and
things like that to see if we can get anything
to connect the dots. I mean, but I'm not seeing
much that is connecting. It's just kind of like, well, okay,

(43:29):
so this spot doesn't have that trifecta, but this spot does.
And I can't find any type of connection or anything
that would state Okay, this would be more likely, or
this place would be you know, better to go investigate.
It'll probably have different types of activity. I can't even
pinpoint that. I just I can't. I'm just like I am,

(43:52):
just you know, trying to find anything, like I said,
to connect the dots.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
You know, when you look around, and a lot of
people feel like I pick on the Bigfoot community, which
I don't feel like I do, because, as you said earlier,
you've talked to people who, you know what embellish, and
you can also kind of feel that if someone's being

(44:19):
genuine or not based on the way they retell the story.
So I know that there's something out there, and you
go to the indigenous people that's been talked about. These
people are all on different parts of the globe telling
the same story before the means of communication was ever there.
So it's got to be something to it, you know.
But you know, my whole thing, and it's just I

(44:42):
want to see the Bigfoot community on the crypto community
kind of just take those steps to bring the research
up to at least the level of where the paranormal
research in UFO research is right now, did you have
anything you want to add to that?

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Well, yeah, I mean there's the different camps. I mean,
it's just it's just kind of like we're we're gonna
need a little bit more evidence on Bigfoot for that
that community to kind of come together because they're they're there.
It's the left and the right, and they don't see
eye to eye on in any of this right and
and Chris and I are kind of in the middle

(45:23):
on it. You know, we don't we don't think that
every Bigfoot it has all of these superpowers. We we
we don't believe that, but we believe as just like
we do in humans, they they may have a little
bit of ability like uh, you know, you know, just
like the different things of picking up that they may have.

(45:44):
They may have like like what we call the players,
like we can see ghosts and we can uh touch
them and and you know, pluct evidence on them. And
they have lots of stories where they say Bigfoot has
orbs following them, which I believe is an independent energy source.
And I always say this all the time that when

(46:07):
we pass, we we carry energy within ourselves and energy
does not dissipate, It just transfers, right, so I think
it becomes these orbs or whatever, and I think, I mean,
we still have a lot of research to do on
that too, but I just I think there's so much

(46:28):
more that needs to be found out before we can
get these this community as one Bigfoot uh community. It's
just it's just so in half right now. And plus again,
I have to say it, with the hoaxers and the
whole putting out all these videos and all of this
stuff that is nonsense. It is dividing it even worse.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Well, glad that you're saying that, and glad because I
have that opinion too. It is it's you know, when
you're I've come to the realization, you know, that we
need more self policing within our community. And it's like
people like yourself that would be able to call out
other people that are hoax You know, I mean because

(47:12):
I and I tell the story that I I'm not
fully versed on everything within the big Foot community. So
I saw something on YouTube a few weeks ago and
there was a guy on there who's I guess I
didn't know this at the time, but he has been
known for hoaxing things throughout the years, and he's presenting

(47:32):
something on this video and I'm blown away. I'm like,
whoa wait a minute, are you telling me that that
evidence is out there? And then I did a little
research found out the guy's hoax are been hoaxing all
the time, and it's just dangerous because it me being
a first time person hearing that information. What if I
go with that right? And it just as Brandy said,

(47:52):
Muddy's up the waters, And it's just we don't if
we're trying to get to the truth, that all that
takes away from those steps were made towards getting to
the truth, or just making it harder to take those steps.
And I get a little passionate about it, and I
think some people get rubbed a little the wrong way,
and it's just really I just want us to be
critical about ourselves and about the things that we bring

(48:16):
to the table. Is that too much that?

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh? Yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
You know Brandy by now that when she said your
reputation is everything, and it is.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
You know, that's what we fighters on. You know, if
we if.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
We didn't get anything, or we don't capture anything, We're
not going to embellish and say that we did.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
You know, that's just not who we are.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
We're we want to we want people, you know, same
with us. We want to grow, and we want to learn,
and we want we want truth, you know, and that's
what we're all in it, or I believe you know.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah, oh absolutely. And when I produce any evidence, especially
in the paranormal, you get the raw footage. You know,
that's what I'm going to present you with. This is
what I got, you know, And sometimes it could be
in the form of maybe my audio recorder like here,
you go listen for yourself. You can listen to the
whole thing. You can. You know, you'll know when you
hear it. And you know I've done that plenty of times,

(49:05):
and there are other times where I'm like, what do
you think about this? What have you been thinking about this?
But Chris and I have this theory when in doubt,
we just throw it out. Yep, there you do, you know, Yeah,
if anyone can say, well it could be this, this
or this, then we're like, okay, throw it out. That's it.
I mean, it's it's it's useless information now. So it's

(49:28):
it's kind of like when you get out there and
you put out false information, false evidence, and then you
have then you you have an encounter that is absolutely
for real, you capture probably the best evidence that anybody
has ever caught. Nobody is going to believe you, right,

(49:50):
It's like it's it's kind of like the same thing.
Win in doubt, throw it out. But when you hoax,
you'll you'll never be taken seriously.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
When you hope you're the joke, Yeah, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
There you go. So it doesn't it doesn't matter anytime
after that. Once you're caught one time, you're done. Well,
they don't understand that, and they just keep going in.
It's like, nobody's gonna believe you no matter what you
put out there.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
We have a haunted location actually in Missouri here that
the lady was caught hoaxing, and and it was during
our team's event, and you know, we kind of we
had a couple part on her. We're like, listen, this
is our reputation. You know you you do have ghosts here.
Why are you why are you doing this?

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
The owner walked her out.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
The owner did, and we let all of our attendees know.
It had nothing to do with us. She did this,
moved the door.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
It was on her. It had nothing to do with us. So,
you know, if you if you know, a lot of
these people like if you if you're patient enough that
you will get something.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
You just got to put the time out there or
in a building or in the woods or wherever looking
at the sky.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
You got to put the time to get the good evidence.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah. I believe you could get it anywhere you really can.
You will find it. I mean absolutely, you will find it.
It's just you've got to put in the work. You've
got to get out there.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, And you know, I totally agree. And it's just
you know, the reason why you well, I felt kind
of weird about it in the beginning is because normally
skeptics are the ones that have these opinions and say
these things, but they end up being true statements. It's like, yes,
you should be more critical, Yes you should probably run

(51:37):
that through a couple checks before you just put it
out there as evidence. And they're right in that aspect.
And so when we talk about it within the community
like we're doing now, we are sometimes talking about colleagues
and friends and people that we've known for you know,
some time, and it seems like the wrong thing to
do to kind of be critical about friends and things

(51:59):
of that nature. But it's like we have to do that.
It's like it's really our job to do that, And
what are we doing if we're not doing that?

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Yeah, well, you know we we we are all about
the truth and our paranormal team if they catch someone
hoaxing or they catch someone doing something like that, like
we have a they.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
All have a separate podcast, they'll call they.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Call people out on that, you know, I mean Brandy
can attest like you know, he's called out many of
the famous people in the industry that you see on
the TV because of hoaxing.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah. Yeah, we had that bad in the UFO community recently,
well the last few years, it's all lou Elisonda. All
these guys who step forward and then the community kind
of cannibalizes them, put them through the rigor well, I
mean it's kind of cool to critically think and ask
questions of these people. You shouldn't just buy it all.
You shouldn't believe it all. It doesn't get us any

(52:53):
closer to making this factual or you know, put us
out there for the world. Yeah, yeah, we have about
twenty seconds if you want to close out with anything.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, I think that My biggest piece of advice is
question everything. Question question everything.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, good good stuff there, And uh, you know, I
always I'm gonna I bring this up a lot, and
I'm gonna bring it up more because I think more
people within the community should be talking like this and
having this conversation along with telling the story of the experience.
Because yeah, that's great, that was awesome, But also what
about the guy over there that just made that up,
who got the same amount of time on stage as

(53:33):
you did. You know, trying is someone who's really trying
to get to the truth. And it's something that bugs me.
You know, it's just like a pet peeve of mine.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
But we're here.

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So I did want to do? I heard you earlier
talk about you both shared a Bigfoot experience. Would you
mind talking about that? I'd love to hear about that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
We were in Ava, Missouri, and we had been at
a conference and it was there was a camp out
there with it and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
What was it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
We were there for a couple of days and we
were in a tent and we had a decent sized
tent and I had a cot, Brandy had an air map,
and there was another gal there with us. And an
awful storm came in and it wasn't supposed to be
that bad, but it was really bad. It literally it
blew like our our cook tent down and it was

(01:01:12):
just it was just awful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
And so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
We had a fire before that, we were sitting around it,
and then so after it, believe it or not, the
fire stayed lit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
How that happened, I do not know, but it did.
We went out there, back out there, sat around the
fire till about.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Two thirty in the morning, and then it was time
for bed, and by then the rain had come through,
and Brandy you know, was on the air mattress. So
she's like, I'm just going to sleep in my car,
like you know, that's fine, And so I go in.
I crawl in bed, and I'm playing on my phone
as I do every night, you know, just kind of
winding my brain down and playing games.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
And I started hearing something from behind my tent, like
where my head was, and so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
I kind of, you know, was listening and I heard
something walk up like from behind and walked up to
the side of the of the tent, and when it
had turned around, I had looked and the way that
by then the storm had came and went.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
It was a crystal clear night and the moon was full, and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
I seen I just say it was a shadow because
I seen from like the half the arm up and
I could see elongated head and it went by. So
by then I'm sitting up because I'm like, this is right,
you know, it's right behind my head. So I'm not
gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I was. I was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I was a little nervous, and so I heard it
come around this side of my tent and then that's
where I'll let Brandy take over.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Yeah, So I was in my car and like, like
she said, we'd been out there for a couple of
days and we had just gone through the conference and
I was just exhausted. So basically when I got in
my car, it had it had really cool down out there.
So I had a sleeping bag and I'm in I'm
in the driver's seat, and I pulled it up and

(01:03:08):
I got my head tucked down into my sleeping bag
because I breathed in my sleeping bag to keep myself warm.
You know, when it when it's when I'm cold, so
you could see the back of my head sticking out,
but you know, my face was in my sleeping bag
and I'm laid back in my seat, and you know,
I kind of hear this walking around and stuff, and
I'm kind of like, okay, what's that. And then I

(01:03:31):
hear this that kind of like a like a tap
tap tap on the front of my car. I'm thinking
it's just rain, you know, like residual rain that's you know,
coming down again in my face in the sleeping bag,
so that I kept here in the walking like it
went around the front of my car, and I'm thinking,
all right, one of these ladies are up using the
restroom and we have this rule that that no lady

(01:03:57):
goes out and and uh u the restroom alone. It's
just it's the thing we always have a lookout because
you know, apex predators. You never know what's out there,
you know, and unfortunately one of the biggest predators out
there is the human race. You know. It's just it
is very true. So there's always somebody. So I kind

(01:04:18):
of slowly because I am really groggy, and I slowly
look up. Now I'm parked on the side of the tent,
and the driver's side door is pretty close to the
tent where I can, you know, just lean up and
look right at it. So I'm looking at it and
I see there's no lights on, not even the zipper

(01:04:43):
is undone on the tent. Nothing. I didn't hear anything
like that. And I'm looking around and I see nobody,
so that I'm thinking, okay, maybe it's the tent over
on the other side of my car. So I look
out and I'm looking out the passenger side window of
my car, and right at the corner of the back

(01:05:03):
of their tent on the other side, I see this
thing standing there. So me trying to really get my
mind going because I'm like, wait a minute, okay, I'm sleepy.
I get it, and I'm looking at it, and this
thing is huge. I'm looking and I'm thinking, okay, this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Is a man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
And then I'm like, this is way way too big
to be a man. This thing is just not right.
And as she was saying is the moon was coming
down and it was shining towards on the back of it,
so I could not see any of the features on
the front. It just made a really dark shadow on
the front so I couldn't see that, but I could
definitely see the whole outline of this creature standing right

(01:05:43):
here on this corner. So I'm looking at it and
I'm thinking, Okay, it's a bear, you know there. It
could be a bear, because we're in bear country. It
could be possible. And then I'm looking at it again
and I'm like, that's not a bear. A bear doesn't
have shoulders. So all these things start clicking, and then

(01:06:04):
it was like a light bulb popped on and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm sitting here and I'm looking at Bigfoot.
I am looking at Bigfoot, and I am just at
awe and I'm leaning up and I'm you know, looking
at it. And then I figure out does it see me?
That was my whole question, does it see me? And

(01:06:26):
then all of a sudden, that adrenaline started pumping. You know.
I'm like, I'm in this car alone. I'm out here
by myself, So if I make any sudden movements, what's
going to happen. I have my phone laying next to
me in the seat, and I know as soon as
I pick that phone up that screen light is going

(01:06:47):
to come on. I don't want it to see me,
because I don't know how this thing's going to react,
and I'm thinking I can't let anybody know because what
if I turn on my headlights and this thing starts
to react aggressively? What if I hank my horn and
this thing goes berserk out there? I have no idea
how this thing's going to react while I'm sitting there, So,

(01:07:10):
you know, as the adrenaline is rushing rushing through you,
you have this fear. And whenever I go out in
the woods, I always have protection, always, And unfortunately it
was laying in the back seat on the floor, so

(01:07:31):
I can't move to get it because I'm afraid it'll
move my car, which will then, in turn, you know,
make this thing look at me. So I'm sitting here,
absolutely helpless looking at this. No way to get any evidence,
no way to call anybody, nothing. That's if we could
have got a phone signal, which that was pretty sketchy
out there anyway. But I'm sitting out there going, well,

(01:07:54):
you know, if nothing else, I can honk the horn.
So I watched the little bit and next thing you know,
it starts the swaying thing like it's not looking at me,
like it's contemplating what it's going to do next. You know,
it's kind of has this confusion thing going on while

(01:08:14):
it's bobbing back and forth, and it's going back behind
the tent, in front of the tent, behind the tent,
in front of the tent, and I'm just like, I
have no idea what this thing is doing. So I'm like,
well what do I do here? I'm afraid it's gonna
see me. And then I get the fear of this
thing could have me in less than five steps, break

(01:08:36):
out my window, and have me out of that cart
in the woods before anybody could unzip their tent.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
You know. So I had this real fear, but I
was also in awe. You know, it was so exciting.
I mean, this is what we've been talking about for days.
This is why we were out there, you know, and
we've been out hiking and everything else, and I didn't
see anything. You know, I'm like, well, here it is
in camp. You know, this is this is awesome, but

(01:09:04):
wait a minute, this thing could get me. So what
I decided to do, because I got a good long
look what about forty five seconds is basically what I
think I had, which is in a bigfoot sighting that
is forever. So, you know, I could see the conical head,

(01:09:25):
I could see the length of the arms, the chest
was probably about two and a half foot wide. I
could see just the long hair's coming off it, you know,
just kind of glistening in the moonlight there. And I'm like, well,
i can't stare at this thing forever because I'm afraid
that if it doesn't see me, it will eventually. So

(01:09:48):
I decided to lay myself back down exactly the way
that I was before I leaned up. So I leaned
back down and I put my head back into my
sleeping bag, not not to be afraid of what, you know,
what I could see, it was just because that's the
way it was laying, and just very quietly laid there,

(01:10:09):
and I just listened for it, and I listened to
it walk and walk until I couldn't hear it no more.
And after that I kind of had like an adrenaline dump.
It was just kind of like the the whole nerve
wracking thing that was going on the amount of time
we've been out in the woods the all day at
the conference, and I was just exhausted, and I pretty

(01:10:32):
much just passed out, just just gone, which I mean
people have their theories on that, like being zapped or
something like that, which is, you know, I don't know
anything about that. That is that that's a a new
thing for me, of being zapped, but that's basically where

(01:10:53):
it just sucks the energy out of you and you
just you just you're gone. You're done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Me too. Yeah, what is the Swain because I've heard
that before. Not I don't hear it a lot though.
That's the thing. I've heard it only a few times,
this Swain action that they're seen doing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Yeah, like I said, it was more like it was confused,
like it was kind of peeking out and then it
go back kind of like it all, you know, almost
because we talked about this at length with a lot
of people you know that were there at the conference
and other people, almost as if there was another one
that could have possibly been in the woods hiding or something,

(01:11:35):
and it was kind of like they're looking for them
or or trying to you know, get their attention or whatever.
But it was also are there any more humans out there?
Kind of confusion, you know, because I mean, heck, they
we they blew, we blew everything that we had from
that storm was all over the ground. You know, this

(01:11:55):
is in the middle of the night, and they're you know,
there were the trash had went. I mean, we of
what we could. I mean, you can't see it all,
but I mean basically this is a free meal.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
Yeah, Well, and what was really incredible too, So the
next morning, you know, we had we had big foot
trackers there, you know that that were were there in camp.
They didn't hear it. However, when he got out, you
know where I was telling him where I heard it
coming from, we got fourteen inch impressions that went all

(01:12:26):
around my tent, went around where Brandy had seen it,
and then went on down further. What was really cool
too is that I had looked at my phone and
it was three twelve in the morning and down you know,
down wind the other the other tints, you know, one
time was like you know, three twenty, and then it

(01:12:47):
was you know, so everybody's time like they were waking
up because they were hearing something, but they just laid
there too. So we weren't the only ones that had
the encounter, you know, it was it was the whole
one side of camp. The other guys did, but the
whole side. There was what maybe I would say probably
six other tents that actually had heard it as well. Yeah,

(01:13:08):
crazy because the time frame and then the impressions you know,
we got we got pictures of all that fourteen inch impressions.

Speaker 11 (01:13:14):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Yeah, you know, because you could definitely see the push
trail where it came out of the woods and went
back into the woods, and then it came back out
again and then skirted the whole camp. You could see
the whole push trail all the way around the camp,
which was actually, you know, it was fantastic. But that
morning when when I woke up, which you know, I
probably got maybe three hours maybe three hours of sleep,

(01:13:38):
and then I hear all this commotion going outside the car.
So I get out of the car and they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
we had a visitor. Hang on, watch where you're stepping.
And that's when I said, I know, I saw it, Yeah,
I saw it. So I mean that that began a
whole you know, an investigation. I mean, everybody went in

(01:14:01):
investigative mode right then and there. We couldn't have had
a better I guess encounter in a in a better place.
I mean, because we had the trackers. We we had investigators,
we had actually a journalist from Bigfoot Times there. We
had all kinds of people that this is what they

(01:14:22):
lived for, you know, this is their you know, their
live stream to have something like this happen. And immediately,
you know, they were questioning us and what we heard
and you know, and it was just a fascinating process,
you know, and they wrote up a thing and in
the Bigfoot Times about the whole encounter. But we were

(01:14:47):
trying to determine how far it was from my car
to where it was standing. And I am like, I
don't know ten feet, I you know, I don't know.
But when we measured it, it was a almost twenty
And I guess because the sheer size of this thing,
just how wide and how big it was, I thought

(01:15:07):
it was closer to me, which that can happen. So
then they're like, well, how tall do you think it was?
And I'm like, I don't know, about six foot five
and they're like, well six foot five and I'm like, yeah, well,
how would you know that? I said, my brother six
foot five. I've been looking at him my whole life,
you know, I know how tall it was. Well, when

(01:15:28):
they measured it from where I saw it to the
top of the tent because I used the tent for
a height measurement. When they measured it, it was six.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Seven wow, and that's new. I never really heard of
one being smaller than eight feet or ninety years and long.
So that's interesting and you would think, obviously they have
to grow up, so they're going to be different heights.
But so it sounds like then you both were at
this sighting, and it sounds like I think Krista was

(01:16:00):
in a tent, yes, and you really were in the car,
which is where I would have been inside something steel.
How do you feel after that, Christa? Did you are
you still going back out in tents or oh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Yeah, we've I've stayed in a tent since then. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
I just you know, honestly, if it wanted to hurt us,
it would have, you know, because my head was right there.
I tell you, I tell everybody, my head was probably
within three feet of it, you know, through the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Tent, and so if it really wanted to hurt me
or any of us, it could have.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
I think you're just curious. And as Brandy had said
earlier in the show, you know, there was nothing wu
about it. Nothing abnormal. You know, what we saw was
literally just a creature walking around camp.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
That was it. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Yeah, does it in front of your research, does it
seem like they that you have more of a chance
of running into one in the day or night? Is
there a difference from what you of research?

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Not really, because you hear a lot of encounters of
daylight encounters, you know, then you also hear you know,
at night, and you know, we've had luck, like Brandy said,
you know, we've gotten the howls both day and night,
you know, out there at a maze.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
I don't think it really matters. I think with our
particular encounter together, that this particular creature had been watching
us for days. You know, it was smelling the food
we were cooking out there, It was listening to us
tell stories, it was doing all kinds of stuff, you know,

(01:17:37):
just you know, Biden is time. But when that storm
came through and blew everything everywhere, you know, I think
it really got curious to see what was actually out there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
You know, they also believe that, you know, that it
was probably a juvenile and that there was an adult
watching somewhere, you know, in the hillsides or you know, which.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Could Yeah, which could speak to the to the size
that would definitely make sense, is it? Uh? And you
kind of kind of went there on that answer there, Brandy,
But I was kind of wanting to know, like what
would be if you had to guess the reason why.
I mean, well, you were cooking food, some delicious food,
sounds like, which would be the reason why they'd want

(01:18:22):
to come close? And I'm like, why risk getting so
close to human beings and just being right there not
knowing what they could do to you? But then also
do they get that close in the daytime or is
it only under the cover of night? Did they attempt
to get that close to human beings?

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
I guess they pretty much stake you out, you know,
they watch you, they watch your habits, and then they
figure out the right time that they should be, you know,
moving about without you being aware, you know. And they've
they've had some weird activity in the area anyway, because
we were on private property and these people had chickens.

(01:19:02):
But when they go to the store and have to
get eggs for one reason or another, they would save
the cartons and then they would put the chicken eggs
that they would you know, get and put them in
there and then you know, share them out with a
family that lived around, you know, that particular property. They'd
cheer them out. Well, one day one of the family
members said, hey, I left, you know, two dozen eggs

(01:19:23):
on your porch, and the other person said, there's not
any eggs on my porch. There's none. There's no eggs.
So they couldn't figure out what happened to the eggs.
If it were to be a dog or any other
type of animal, you would have found them flipped. You
would have found a trail of eggs, you know, where
they had come out of these packages. But they didn't

(01:19:44):
find anything like that. A few days later, the egg
cartons showed up on another family member's porch, but there
was a few eggs in there, maybe a couple broke in,
but the rest were all good. There were no teeth
marks in the packaging or anything like that. So something
with a thumb had to pick that up and carry

(01:20:08):
it around and then and then took it back, you know,
so it was very weird. The other weird thing I
thought about is because yeah, we were in bear country,
and as they researched it more because they tagged the
bears out there to keep track of them. That the
bears would basically skirt this property. They would not go

(01:20:33):
through the property. They would kind of go around it. Yeah,
maybe at the edges a little bit, but they would
never go through the property. They tracked them, they never
went through that property, which I found that strange too.
So were the bears giving, you know, this particular animal
or whatever you want to call it, sasquatch its own space,

(01:20:58):
like they knew better. It's like they want to pick
that fight, so they would just go around it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
That's interesting that you bring that up, because I've actually
asked that question to a bigfoot researcher. It's just like
you would have to imagine that at some point in time,
either Bigfoot runs into grizzly or Grizzly runs into Bigfoot,
and then what happens in that interaction, and you would
assume Bigfoot wins. So then over the years have we

(01:21:27):
found like mutilated grizzlies, you know, at the hands of
a bigfoot. But it would make sense that, you know,
having those senses that a beer just kind of avoids
anywhere a bigfoot would be. That would make a lot
of sense. So it's crazy you brought that up, because
I actually wondered that as well.

Speaker 12 (01:21:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Yeah, I think they just give them a wide berth.
It's kind of like it's your natural enemy. You're not
gonna mess with that because you know that you'll probably lose, right,
you know, And then if you don't lose, by a chance,
you don't lose, you're going to end up going away
anyway because of your injuries. So it's really not worth

(01:22:10):
the fight, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
If you would have gotten any if you would have
and I think you sort of answered this earlier, but
that night that you had the experience, if you had
obtained any sort of imagery or video, would you have
put that out? Would you have shared that with the world?
And how do you feel about actually uncovering the secret

(01:22:33):
of Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
I think we.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Would have because you know, we were there, we saw
it was it was legit, so I believe we would
just because you know we we we witnessed it, we
recorded it, So yeah, we would.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
And you know, it's it's not everybody's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Gonna believe everything you put out because you know AI today,
you know that's really bad for all of us, you know,
So that's easy just to throw it, say Oh, that's
just a I well, you know, but I know my truth.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
You know, I know that we only put out credible
stuff that we know that is true.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
That happened right, And I'm not I'm not here to
prove to you or anyone else what I what I
had saw, or what I had seen is it was truthful.
I'm going to give you the facts of my encounter,
and it's up to you whether you want to believe
it or not. You know, I mean, I I still

(01:23:31):
sleep in my car. I'll go out there, but I'll
still sleep in my car. You know. I have a
big fear of hogs anyway, so you know, and a
lot of places I go have I have wild hogs,
so I'm kind of fearful of those anyway. But that,
just that encounter made it like ten times for so
I will still sleep in my car.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
I'm sleeping in a car or a trailer or something
along those lines. Won't catch me in a tent anymore.
And I'm all right, tell the story why. But we'll
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(01:25:26):
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I was, Yeah, I was watching you guys earlier on
your live and checking us some my other stuff. So
you got over there with Donnie and BMR and that
are you over there with text as well? Is that text?

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
So?

Speaker 9 (01:28:04):
Text?

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
And paranormal Paul and then Monica Rawlins.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Yeah, and Danielle as well. Yeah, okay, familiar familiar. I
was over there. I was had an opportunity to be
a guest on on B and Mar's show h being.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Wait a Minute, I co host with BMR on his
Tuesday Night shows.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Okay, that's where I'm like, is being is with Chris
da I was like, wait a minute, Christ, hold on,
so were you on the show. Yeah, that's why I
knew it. We in the beginning. I was like, I
didn't interview you guys together, but it seems like I
know somebody here. I just couldn't place it. That's what
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Okay, we're gonna have to get you on our show too.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Anytime I'm opening available, just let me know. That's awesome. Yeah,
it just clicked from me. It was just that thing
live on camera.

Speaker 5 (01:29:03):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
And then then Brandy and I both and then Monica
Rollins we co host BMR Saturday night shows with him too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, it's uh, you know,
I'm looking for the I've really been thinking about this
and I've been looking around. I'm like, there's so many different,
you know, groups involved in this and as far as
this goes, and I'm like, what if we kind of
organized it a little bit better. I don't know how

(01:29:35):
we would do that, but I'm trying to think through
because I think we could work better together somehow, and uh,
I just don't know how to do it, because everybody
wants to stay separate and kind of do their own thing.
But what if we kind of united on some sort
of front and you know, except for.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Us, like I will say, like all of us, you know,
like we have a lot of friends.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
We've met a lot of people, you know that that
have their own shows and stuff, and we're all about
uplifting them and sharing them and promoting them too, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
And I think if more people and more channels did that,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Coming back right now, all right, everybody walking back spaced
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We have Christa and Brandy from Blonds and Boom and
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faced out Radio. So yeah, so we were getting back
into the Bigfoot conversation. So that's a compelling story and
my my thing with the Bigfoot is I was talking

(01:30:50):
about earlier tonight, is I just want there to be goals,
you know, because Brandy said it earlier, either one of
you said it. Where the unity and the community isn't there,
And I just kind of want to see everybody get
united and share data and kind of elevate where we're
atting this And any way that I can help let

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me know, because technically Bigfoot isn't my bag necessarily, but
anything related to phenomenon is important to me, so that
includes Bigfoot and everything else. So any way that I
could help let me know. But you know, maybe I'll
overthink things too much. That's kind of what I think.
Sometimes it's like are you overthinking this? Or But I

(01:31:33):
do find I find myself a few steps ahead. Sometimes
I'll have this crazy thought and I won't really know
where to go with that, and then a few months
later someone will say the same thing that kind of
validates it, and it's like, due, you were on the
right path the whole time. So yeah, let's talk about
blondes and booze. What do you guys have going on there?

(01:31:56):
Blondes and booze? And what could viewers expect coming to
tune in?

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
So we do.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
We do live shows every Thursday and Friday evening is
our main shows. Brandy does a show that streams through
Blondes and Booze and it's on Wednesday evening, and so
technically there's three shows.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
And we uh, we we just do a lot of stuff,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
We we enjoy like going on other people's shows like this,
and we have a conference coming up that our whole
Island of Misfits is putting on.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
And yeah, we just stay busy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
We do conferences, we speak at some conferences, we've we've
done it all.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Go out to the woods, we go to the haunted locations.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
We stay busy, Yes, very very busy. It's to the
point now where I have to kind of pick and
choose where I'm going to go. It's it's like there's
so many places. It's like, look, I gotta work. I
gotta make money because you know, we're not getting rich
at this by no means, so you have to you
have to pay to play, as they say. So I

(01:32:58):
find that it does better when I can get somewhere
local where I can investigate. Well, what I mean local
is within a four hour radius. That's what I should say.
Somewhere where I could get to and spend a longer
amount of time, so I can get a lot of

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quantity and quality time investigating out there, and and with
what Chris and I do, that gives us a lot
of time together. So not only are we doing these shows,
you know, we're also getting out there and actively investigating.
And I mean one weekend we could be doing ghosts.

(01:33:39):
The next weekend, it may be crypted the next weekend. Hey,
we're going to go check out and see what these
UFOs are doing over here. I mean, it's always that,
and we do that not only because of our own curiosity,
but it helps with our content on our you know,
on our channel, because we want to keep constantly updating
and making sure that we're not talking about the same

(01:34:00):
things over and over and over, that we have something
new to produce.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
Now, plus we enjoy it, you know, I mean, it's
definitely you know, it's our passion. The paranormal as a
as a whole is definitely both of our passions, and
so it just it's just really cool because you know,
like we're both in Missouri and you know, we're we're
not only you know, partners for blondes and booze, but
like we're we're best of friends on the outside too,

(01:34:26):
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
So it's just yeah, you know, and it's cool to
actually be a part of something that's like so important
paradigm shifting for human or the human race, Like you,
when will are the chances that you ever find yourself
alive at a time when you could participate in something
that could shift the whole human understanding of reality. That's

(01:34:51):
crazy to even think about. And we happen to be
living in that moment right now. And that's kind of
what fires me up every day. Even if I don't
feel like coming into do something, I sit there and
I think about what this means to humanity and what
just our having this conversation could do to move This
conversation on my whole model is moving the needle. Conversations

(01:35:13):
that move the needle. So I feel like you should
you should leave with more than you came in with
by the end of the show. And and and as
long as we keep doing this, and we have people
out there like yourself that are really trying to find
the answers and they're getting up off the couch, which
is something I have to do as well. My next
stage of this is getting out there in the field,

(01:35:33):
just like you guys are. So I think it's very
important for people that can do that to get out
there and do it. Some people just can't. And you know,
you have a different part that you could play. But
with that being said, even if it's.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
Just sitting outside watching the skies, you know, you don't
have to go to the woods to have a weird encounter.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
You know, sit outside and just make sure that phone
camera is pointing up towards the sky and exactly you
can do that anytime of day, so real quickly. So
I get to a couple of these questions. I did
want to know on the on the UFO side of this.
So you did. You stated, sometimes you go out and
look for UFOs. What is your outlook on UFOs? What

(01:36:15):
do you think this means? What do you think they are?
And do you have any opinion on that?

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
You know, I'm I'm like Brandy, you know, I'm not
saying you know that they all come from outer space.
You know, maybe some come from entner Earth too, you know,
I don't know, but I do believe like they walk
among us, I will, you know, I do, And and
I think, you know that some could be you know,

(01:36:40):
just as normal looking as.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
You and I, you know, just kind of you. And
I think you're here.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
You know, I don't think that they're all bad, and
I don't think that they're all good. I'm not really
too sure what they are. But I do feel like
that they're here, you know, like they're watching their Earth
and and you know, maybe not so much us are,
maybe so just to see how we're treating the earth
and the environment and you know, things like that, because
I mean, obviously their technology is so far more advanced

(01:37:11):
than ours, so you know, they don't need any of
that from us. But I just feel like that they
kind of watch us just to see, you know, how
we're treating you know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
The space.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
Oh yeah, well, they're probably super disappointed or not depressed
at all with the job that we've done here on
this planet so far. And if they if they allowed
us to stay here, and that's the scary part, because
if they allow us to keep doing what we're doing,
obviously we're going to destroy the planet. Will they will
they allow us to keep going on this path? That's

(01:37:41):
anyone's guess. I don't I don't know. I don't. I
really hope not. And we have a lot of things.
So we have three eye Atlas coming supposedly maybe forty
I think obvy Lobe was now up to forty percent chance.
He's stating that he thinks it might be of extraterrestrial origin.
Have you heard of this three I at list if

(01:38:03):
this was yet it's a twelve mile twenty kilometer apparently object,
So they're thinking it's a comment that is coming in
from outside of the Solar System. It's coming in at
a weird trajectory that doesn't make sense, and it's coming
in at like one hundred thousand miles per hour or
something along those lines, coming in really fast. We we

(01:38:25):
couldn't send anything out to kind of intercept it at
this point. It's too fast. And there's a forty percent chance.
Abby Lobe says that it could be intelligently controlled alien craft,
that could be Rendez rendezvousing here for the planet Earth.
And then what that would mean if that was the case.

(01:38:45):
He's he's saying there at first he said two percent chance.
He's just saying, hey, don't put it out your mind
that this is that this is what it could be.
And now he's up to forty percent with this kind
of troubling for me. I don't know why he jump
up that much, but what would how what that does
that moment look like for you? If it is, it
just parks here it earth now it's disclosure, and what

(01:39:07):
do you think happens after that? Or what do you
hope happens after that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
I guess for me, I mean, I'm that's a hard
question because I mean, the powers that be are not
going to tell us one way or another. It's just
gonna be like we're gonna wake up one day and
it's gonna be like surprise, just like they do everything else.
You know, they don't tell us anything in advance. So
me being the person that I am, it's going to

(01:39:35):
be like, I'm gonna, you know, just breathe in these
moments and just you know, try to obtain all the
information I can, just in case we are going to
survive this, you know, because there's there's nothing that states
that we are, you know what I mean, just in case.
And I always wonder, I know somebody's sitting on some

(01:39:58):
information that they're not giving up, and and they know
more about this thing than what they're saying otherwise, there
wouldn't be these theories coming out of anywhere. You know
that the theories are not based on nothing. There's something
that they're coming from. So I'm just I you know,
I'm just gonna sit back, I'm gonna relax. I'm gonna

(01:40:18):
watch it happen, and and you know, just thank God
that I got to see it, you know what I mean.
It's it's like there's nothing we're gonna be able to
do about it. So if it happens to be something
extraterrestrial or something like that, I'll be just happy to
see it because there will be nothing we can do,
you know. I mean they their technology of course, like

(01:40:40):
Krista said, you know, is leaps and bounds ahead of us.
There's just absolutely nothing we're gonna do. There's no weapon
that can save us. There's nothing. You're just gonna have
to sit back and just watch. That's all you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Yeah, yeah, you're totally right. There's nothing. Yeah, there's nothing
we can do it. And he said, what to you,
It's gonna be one of two days we're gonna sit
and have an amazing viewing of this huge comet potentially
passing Earth twelve miles long, which is way bigger than
Mount Ever is just kind of passed by or is

(01:41:15):
going to be an alienship that's gonna part in. A
twelve mile ship is big enough to hold a billion
extra invading extraterrestrials that could be on our front doors.
That's uh, it could go anyway, you know, And I'm
just one of those. Hey, they could be here for
great things and here to help, but also prepare for
the worst, because why wouldn't you do that? Why wouldn't

(01:41:37):
you prepare for the worst if you don't really know
what their intent is? Right, doesn't make sense at all.
But let let me go ahead and try to squeeze
in a question or two. Here we have Corey. Okay,
Corey Doyle. We actually looked at this earlier. When I
say exactly, when I say what exactly are you seeing?
I mean, in general, are they trying to community kate

(01:42:00):
something to you? If so, what would that be? I
don't know if you guys remember what part of the
conversation that was.

Speaker 13 (01:42:07):
Forfend Okay, all right, well I don't I mean, if
we're talking about Bigfoot, I mean, there's a conversation about
mind speak and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
And Chris and I are kind of on the fence
about the mind speak because how do you really know
it's them talking to you? Just like when we're speaking
to spirits and stuff. How do you know? This could
be like say your loved one? How do you know?
I mean, now, can you see them? Can you touch them?
Are you absolutely sure?

Speaker 9 (01:42:36):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
You're not? So, you know, we I don't know exactly
what to what to say about that in what part
of that conversation.

Speaker 10 (01:42:47):
But I.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Don't know what anyone and when any of them would say.
Actually if they if they were you know, talking to me. Honestly,
a bigfoot could be telling me, hey, would you bring
a Snickers bar? I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
So it sounds like you're not a mind speak fan
or you don't think that they do that necessarily.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
I stop going.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Yeah, I'm on the fence because I'm not doubting they're
hearing it, right, That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
We do believe that they're getting something.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
People are hearing something, But is it a bigfoot because
you know, like like I've studied demonology and you know
the dark side, will you know come as you know,
like your grandma or a child, or if someone wants
to talk to Bigfoot so bad, you know, why couldn't
they come to you and Bigfoot, you know, just you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
Open yourself up to them, and that's inviting them in.
Well there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
So I can't say that it's technically a bigfoot they're
talking to you, but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
I'm not saying it's not either, you know. But that's
just kind of my opinion because I know the dark
Side are.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Liars, you know, I like that, didn't You don't know
who's to you? You don't, you really don't, So I
like that outlook super crazy movie geek. Do you think
Bigfoot has any connection to the UFO phenomena?

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
I personally do. I think it's all connected.

Speaker 3 (01:44:14):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
I think, you know, like portals, I believe like they
can come in and out that kind of thing. Yeah,
so I do personally.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
Yeah, And I always say this, but who's to say
that aliens can only be little green and little gray men.
Why can't they be big hairy ones? You know, I mean,
how do we know? I don't know, you know, That's
just one of those things. That's what I love about this,
this whole thing is is trying to figure out at

(01:44:45):
least one piece of that puzzle.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
This phenomena has me even looking at insects even differently.
I'm like, yes, are you a nano bot? Are you
a nano robot? It is just a thought and it's like, hm,
but a though. But are you right? And it's like
who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
Yeah, are you another little alien life force that we
don't know about? Yeah, especially when we start seeing them
strange ones that you ever, you've never seen before?

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Exactly the kind of bug? Is that exactly? I like that, Brandy.
Next question is, Scott Rosen, is it possible the UFOs
are not interested in us but actually looking for Bigfoot?

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
Good question. I feel like that thing possible at this point,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Exactly exactly. Like I said earlier, there are no experts none,
So whenever somebody throws out something like this on the table,
I'm like, well, yeah, I mean why not? Absolutely all right?

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
And Polly Roderman all the way from Israel ask you
what if Bigfoot was a human experiment with humans? And
what could have been the goal?

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
Interesting?

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
That's a good one. I never thought of that one.
I haven't either, you know, I do have a theory
that I've been playing with that I believe we always
talk about a you know, in evolution of man, that
we have a missing link in there somewhere, and at
some point I think that could be where Bigfoot is
coming from. It's like when everyone else went right, well,

(01:46:22):
that link went left, you know, because they talk about
so much about human DNA, this that or the other,
and you know, I'm like, well what if what if
it is our missing link that just found a different
way to survive, you know, and and it's its own
evolution is to be what it is today? You know,

(01:46:44):
I mean what about that? That's the questions we asked.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Think about that. As you were talking earlier, I was like,
what did Bigfoot was here first? Like before anything else?

Speaker 14 (01:46:55):
And then.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
Yeah, so that'd be interesting, a nice rabbit hole to
jump down, Bim Jim asking have have the ets brought
the big flips here?

Speaker 4 (01:47:09):
No idea, however, you know, like Brandy mentioned earlier, you
know the cave cave carvings, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
I mean they are depicted together, so they are depict
it together. But I mean, like I said, I mean,
maybe it's just another alien life form. I don't I
don't know. I don't. I really just don't know until
we get.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
It just brings me back to the point. Somebody has
got some evidence somewhere they're sitting on they're not releasing
this information. I know somebody has something that that could
tell us more or connect you know, the the dots
that I keep talking about or put together our puzzle
that I keep talking about. Somebody's got that information and

(01:47:59):
they're just not releasing it. I don't. I don't know why,
and I I wish they would, but that you know,
that's that's our community and the Bigfoot side, and you know,
the paranormal side is is a little more easier going
with evidence. But that Bigfoot community, boy, if they get
some good evidence, they're not letting go of that. And
I'm like, what are you waiting for? What are you

(01:48:22):
waiting for?

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
Drop the other shoe? Exactly, exactly, super crazy Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
If you have that type of evidence and and the
powers that be can't refute that evidence, You're going nowhere,
You're you're you're going to be right where you need
to be and they're not going to discredit you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
I feel like, is that your duty to bring the
evidence for it if you have it, that's just me.
Some people say I never ring it forward. I will
never show anyone bring it forward.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
Yeah, and I understand that. You know, Brandy and I
you know, we we don't get our feelings hurt. So
you know, we know our evidence is real. So if
somebody else doesn't believe it, that's okay with us.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
That's okay. Certain.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
I understand where some people would you know, I do
get it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
Yeah, I'm just I'm not here to prove. I'm not
here to make you believe. I'm just here to show
you what I got. That's it, believe it or not.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
T Bone is I mean super crazy movie gig is
asking do you think the government has secret Bigfoot files
and possibly have a big Foot in captivity?

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Yeah? I don't know if they would have one of captivity,
but I think that they possibly track them, know where
they are. I do believe they have DNA evidence that
that's what I was talking about earlier about somebody sitting
sitting on it. I believe that's that's part of that
problem that we're having.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
And I think I think the FBI looked into this.
They definitely have files on Bigfoot for sure that they
worked into. Yeah, super crazy movie. Gig is asking would
you shoot Bigfoot dead if confronted? If so, what would
you do with the body.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
For me, I would do everything I could not to
shoot it, you know, I mean, I'm I'm a yeah.
You know, you hear people talk about how they look
so human like, and you know, I just I just
don't see. Unless it's coming after me or my family
or you know, a loved one, I would not. But

(01:50:29):
if I had to, what would I do with the body? Well,
I sure when go the government, they are.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
Yeah, they be on you. I'm sure by.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Then, Yeah, I would. I would, you know, I don't
know I would.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
It's just like I said earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
I do carry protection every time I do go out.
I have it on me at all times. It is
not it is if for anything that becomes a front. Yeah,
any apex predator, including a human. Now we've talked about
that that I think humans are the worst predators of all.
But but for anything, if if I felt that anyone

(01:51:12):
around me or I was in danger, yes, I would
do that. And then I'd have to go buy a
big old freezer.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Yeah, And honestly, I would do everything I could not to,
you know, absolutely, I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
I want to study them. I want to know more
about them. I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
I don't want to wipe that. I'm not afraid of
them until they make me afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
Yeah, and let me let me ask this question real quick.
There's one more question after this, but it's for you guys.
Patterson Gimblin film real Yeah, I believe it is, yes,
all right. And then t Bowen had this last question.
Can you tell the chat about your Crossing Realms conference, Brandy?

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
That's all you I know, Okay, Acrossing Realm's Conference. It's
being put on by of course Text BMR, all of
these good people of the Island, Misfit Toys. It is
going to be in of course, Richmond, Missouri, the nineteenth
and twentieth of September. It's going to be a great,
great event. Now we've got Friday night, which is going

(01:52:20):
to be basically it was going to be a me
angry but this thing has exploded. Now it is going
to be We're having extra speakers, We're going to be
watching somebody's brand new documentary that's coming out Saturday. We
are having a whole conference that is happening out there
with vendors and everything, our speakers, we have a psychic

(01:52:42):
gallery reading that's going to be happening. Our ghost Hunt
was sold out in the first week, so that is
no longer available, and even for all ticket holders. On
Thursday evening, we've decided to open up a haunted Ranch.
I was going to say that a haunted ranch in
the area, and we're going to have a social nite
where everybody can get together and the speakers who have

(01:53:04):
come in early, we're all going to just get together
and the ticket holders, if you buy tickets, you can
come to that too. We're you know, we're not excluding
you either. We're gonna all have a good time with this.
And if you want to have tickets or even a
vendor spot, because we have an infinite amount of vendor
spots available still yet, because we've got a whole fair
ground full, you can go to Crossing Realms Conference on

(01:53:28):
event bright and get all your information and all your
tickets there, or you can look under Blondes and Booze
and it'll also be under Crossing Realms Conference there. But
if you notice the name Crossing Realms is because that's
our way of saying everything is intertwined. So we'll be
talking about everything there, Bigfoot, Dogman, the Fay, the aliens,

(01:53:51):
anything under the sun. We're even going to be having
haunted cars there.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Awesome stuff. And Brandy, thanks so much for joining me
to it was fun. We'll talk to you. So let's
set something up to night and.

Speaker 5 (01:54:05):
Radio space radio.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Thank you, buy.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
All right, everybody, we are going to break and we
will be back in five minutes.

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Complete stopping, the more.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
All right, everybody, welcome back spaced Out Radio, the after
hours radio show. We are in after our number three.
Already we're coming back from the radio side of this
here in how long five seconds? Here tells until missperson
Mysteries coming up next. All right, everybody, welcome back spaced

(01:59:52):
Out Radio, the after hours radio show. We are in
after our number three. We want to thank our guests tonight,
Christa and from Blonde and who's totally off a conversation
tonight and make sure if you missed that you jumped
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flash of Space without Radio. As we get ready to

(02:00:14):
jump back into the show here and I think we'll
get this thing and started with some Steve Stockton Tales
Untold Missing person Mysteries because we appreciate and being a
part of the show. So let's go.

Speaker 12 (02:00:27):
Welcome to Tales Untold and Missing Person's Mysteries on spaced
out Radios after hours. My name is Steve Stockton and
I'm here to take you on a journey of mysteries,
legends and true stories. Come join me on this strange
adventure of tales, untold and missing person mysteries. We have

(02:00:47):
Angela Marie Hammond. On April fourth, nineteen ninety one, twenty
year old Angela Hammond was at a phone both in Clinton, Missouri,
at around eleven forty five pm talking to Fyance. The
phone was located in a parking lot outside of the
Food Barn store in the center of town near Jefferson
and Second Streets. Angela had parked her car in order

(02:01:10):
to make the phone call to Rob because she wanted
to let him know that she was too tired to
meet with him that night like they had planned, and
just wanted to go home, take a bath and relax instead.
The two lived together, but had plans to meet somewhere
after they.

Speaker 11 (02:01:25):
Both got out of work.

Speaker 12 (02:01:27):
While on the phone with him, she mentioned a mysterious
pickup truck that had just started incessantly circling the booths.

Speaker 11 (02:01:33):
She was in while she was talking to it. She
became even more suspicious.

Speaker 12 (02:01:38):
When the man driving the truck parked his car next
to hers and got out, looking all around on the
ground with some sort of light, as though he were
trying to find some Not knowing what was going to
happen next, but having a bad feeling about the whole situation,
Angela described both the man and his truck to her fiance.

Speaker 11 (02:01:57):
She described the man as being filthy and bearded.

Speaker 12 (02:02:00):
Suddenly, Angela started screaming and the line had gone completely dead.
Rob was only a few blocks away and immediately threw
the phone down, got into his own vehicle, and sped
all the way to where angel had been talking with
him just moments earlier. On the way to the scene, though,
he heard her scream and call out his name as
he passed. The truck that he noticed looked just like
the one she had been describing to him before all

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hill broke loose, it was a late model nineteen sixties
or early nineteen seventies green Ford F one to fifty truck.
He followed the truck for about a mile down Second
Street and Culvert Drive, but the very sudden shifting of
gears broke down his vehicle's transmission and his car stalled
in the middle of the road as he helplessly watched
the man drive away in the truck with his terrified

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Beyonce inside. Angela was four months pregnant and was never
seen or heard from again. Rob said that he had
gotten a better look at the truck angel had been
taken into, and reported that it had a water decal
or some sort of outdoor scene covering the whole back window,
that it possibly had a white top, and possible damage
to the left front fender.

Speaker 11 (02:03:05):
Witnesses reported seeing a.

Speaker 12 (02:03:06):
Caucasian male driving a similar looking truck near the phone
booth at the same time Angela disappeared. The man has
never been identified, but was reportedly wearing overalls and a
dark colored baseball cap. He wore glasses and had a
beard mustache. A composite sketch was completed based on witness testimony,
and though rob was initially considered a suspect, he passed

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a polygraph test and was eventually rolled out. At the
Tier disappearance, Angela worked in a bank and attended classes
at Central Missouri State University in Warren, Missouri. Angela's a
white female who had turned fifty three years old on
February ninth, twenty twenty four, and was only twenty years
old at the Tiger disappearance. She was between four feet

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eleven and five feet tall and weighed between one hundred
and twenty one hundred and forty pounds. She was wearing
a white button down shirt with black spots on it,
black slacks, and white sneakers.

Speaker 11 (02:04:01):
In nineteen ninety.

Speaker 12 (02:04:02):
One, Angela's teeth were said to have been in excellent condition.
Her nickname is Angie, and she has brown hair and
brown eyes. She wears contact lenses and has a scar
on her upper lip.

Speaker 11 (02:04:13):
Anyone with any.

Speaker 12 (02:04:14):
Information about this case should contact the investigating agency, the Clinton,
Missouri Police Department at six six zero eight eight five
five point five sixty one.

Speaker 11 (02:04:26):
Next up.

Speaker 12 (02:04:27):
Brandon Lawson. Brandon Mason Lawson was born on November eighteenth,
nineteen eighty six, in Fort Worth, Texas, in the United States.
His parents' names are Brad and Kimberly, and he has
three siblings named Brittany, Kyle, and Billy. Brandon and his
common law wife, Ledessa were high school sweethearts and had
three children together. On the evening of August Day, twenty thirteen,

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twenty six year old Brandon had an argument with Lodessa
at their home in San Angelo, Texas, and, as per
the agreement the two had made with another, when things
got too heated, one of them would leave and give
both time to cool off.

Speaker 11 (02:05:05):
And that's just what Brandon did.

Speaker 12 (02:05:07):
Brandon called his father and explained the situation, saying he
wanted to come and spend the night at his house. Brad,
who lived three hours away, didn't think it was a
good idea for him to drive so far away and
tried to talk his son out of it. However, Brandon
insisted and they hung up with one another. Brandon left
his house in his vehicle, a silver Ford F one
fifty and eleven fifty four PM, but would never return

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home again. Brandon ran out of gas on his way
to his dad's house, which was located in Crowley, Texas,
and he pulled over on Route two seventy seven between
San Angelo and Bronte in Coke County. His brother Kyle,
only lived a mile away from his Ladessa's house, and
he asked him to bring him some gas so he

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could get back on the road. While talking to Kyle,
Brandon claimed he's being chased by three men, whom he
later described as quote Mexicans in the neighborhood end quote.
Kyle wasn't sure he believed what Brandon was telling him,
but didn't know why he would lie about such a
thing either. Brandon had a history of drug abuse, but
had been completely clean for about six months leading up

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to the night of his disappearance. However, Kyle asked him
if he'd been using, thinking that maybe his brother was
just hallucinating. Brandon denied being high, and after hanging up
with his brother, Kyle called Ldessa and explained what was
going on. She left to fuel container outside for Kyle
and his girlfriend to pick up so they could put
gas in it and.

Speaker 11 (02:06:31):
Bring it to Brandon.

Speaker 12 (02:06:33):
Kyle didn't have any money on him at the time,
but plan to pick Brandon up, bring him to the
gas station to get the fuel, and then drive him
back to his truck so he could put enough gas
in to get into the station with his truck to
refuel it properly. They drove to the location Brandon had
given him and saw his truck parked on the side
of the road, but they didn't see Brandon anywhere. A

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sheriff's deputy who had been contacted by a trucker showed
up a few minutes later to check the vehicle out
during an other call between Brandon and Kyle, after Kyle
had gotten to the truck and saw the officer there,
Brandon told him, I can see you.

Speaker 11 (02:07:07):
I'm right here. However, neither Kyle nor the deputy could
see Brandon anywhere.

Speaker 12 (02:07:12):
When Brandon still hadn't shown up after several more minutes,
Kyle thought it was possible that Brandon simply didn't want
to have any contacts with law enforcement because he'd only
recently learned that there was an outstanding warrant for his arrest.
It was related to some drug charges issued to Brandon
out of Johnson County years before in two thousand and five.
Many phone calls were made to and from Bandon's Sophoe

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that night. The area had a very poor cellular reception,
so many of those calls either never went through.

Speaker 11 (02:07:40):
Or over dropped.

Speaker 12 (02:07:41):
It was at twelve thirty am that Brandon first called
Kyle and told him he was out of gas.

Speaker 11 (02:07:47):
At twelve fifty.

Speaker 12 (02:07:48):
One, just after dialing nine one one, which we will
discuss further in a moment, Brandon called Kyle's phone and
left him a voicemail. Also, at twelve fifty one, Brandon
called the Deaths, but she did didn't pick up because
her phone had been left in her car that night.

Speaker 11 (02:08:03):
Which wasn't too unusual.

Speaker 12 (02:08:05):
At twelve fifty two, Brandon called Audrey, Kyle's wife and said, Audrey, Audrey,
I'm bleeding. Those are the last known words ever to
be spoken by Brandon Lawson. At twelve fifty four, Kyle
called Brandon but got no response, and at twelve fifty
seven Brandon called Kyle back. Then at twelve fifty eight,

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Brandon called one of his neighbors, and at twelve fifty
nine Kyle called Brandon again.

Speaker 11 (02:08:31):
However, none of.

Speaker 12 (02:08:32):
These phone calls would last very long, and none of
them got Brandon and his brother any closer to one another.
At one o four in the morning, the nine one
one dispatcher called Brandon back and tried to get some
more information, but he didn't pick.

Speaker 11 (02:08:45):
Up, and she left a voicemail.

Speaker 12 (02:08:48):
At one oh nine, Brandon called Kyle three times in
a row, and then at one fifteen called him twice more.
Those are the final calls made from Brandon's phone, and
from one nineteen on all calls to Brandon's phone went
directly to voicemail, and no calls were ever made from
the phone after one point fifteen am called the Kyle.

Speaker 11 (02:09:09):
Brandon's nine one one call became a huge subject of debate.

Speaker 12 (02:09:12):
And the hottest topic of the case overall when it
was finally released to the public, and the internet all
but blew up with theories and speculation about what.

Speaker 11 (02:09:20):
Was being said and what could have happened to Brandon.

Speaker 12 (02:09:24):
It's incredibly hard to understand what's being said, possibly due
to the poor self service in the area. Here's one
interpretation of several circulating online on the transcript.

Speaker 11 (02:09:33):
Of his original nine to one one call that night.

Speaker 12 (02:09:36):
Many people hear different things, and mostly what's being said
has never definitely been determined, but many sources believe this
is what most likely had been said that night.

Speaker 11 (02:09:46):
We have no opinion. One way or another. But here's
the interpretation.

Speaker 12 (02:09:51):
Operator nine one one, Emergency, Brandon, Yes, I'm in the
middle of a field. If they could just bring some
guys over right here, going towards avallee and on the
Brontes side, my truck round on the gas. There's one
car here and guys chasing me into the woods. Please hurry.
Operator Okay, now run that by me.

Speaker 11 (02:10:11):
One more. Brandon.

Speaker 12 (02:10:13):
I tried talking to him. I totally ran into them. Operator, Ah,
you ran into it, okay, Brandon. Just the first guy
in the background noise, Brandon, I got shot. Operator. Do
you need an ambulance? Brandon, Yeah, no, I need the cops. Operator.

Speaker 11 (02:10:33):
Has anybody hurt? Strange noises in the background?

Speaker 12 (02:10:37):
Operator Hello, Hello, Hello, Brandon very faintly helped me. Now
in a slow down version of the call, many people
believe there's another voice talking saying get up and protect yourself,
but there's just never been anything definitive at the point
in the direction of what actually happened to.

Speaker 11 (02:10:57):
Brandon loss In that night.

Speaker 12 (02:10:59):
There's so much rumor and speculations routing this case, but
if we're just sticking to the facts, the case is
still open and unsolved. Brandon's family continued to search for
him in the area through the morning, but they never
found any evidence as to the squhereabouts. Law enforcement initially
presumed that Brandon might have been hiding and on the
run because of the outstanding warrant, but most people didn't

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find that plausible, given that he called not to one
one himself and specifically requested the dispatch send the police
to the station. Ladessa and the rest of Brandon's family
tried to search as much of the area where his
truck was last known to be, but their efforts were
hampered by many landowners who refused to allow them to
search their property. Not a single shred of evidence was

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ever found that would even suggest what might have happened
to Brandon. In the days following the disappearance, law enforcement
officials conducted their own small searches in the area, but
never found a.

Speaker 11 (02:11:55):
Heat signature nor a body.

Speaker 12 (02:11:58):
The sheriff of tom Greame County, a man named Nick Hannah,
who was the lead investigator and a Texas ranger at
the time, said he believed that Brandon's body was probably
in the Desolate Desert area off US two seventy seven,
which he said.

Speaker 11 (02:12:11):
Was largely inhabited by rattlesnakes and faral hogs.

Speaker 12 (02:12:15):
However, when they holed in on that section of the
grid and focused as searches in Bronte, despite utilizing two
DPS helicopters ATVs Texas are six cadaver dogs and four
different agencies, no trace of Brandon Lawson was ever found.
It's a mystery that remains today, with the many interpretations
of the nine to one to one call being the

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prime focus of the whole situation, with people thinking if
he were ever to be found, what was really being
said in that phone call would be the key.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
To it all.

Speaker 12 (02:12:49):
The next Joanne Marie Peterson Joanne Marie Peterson was born
on May seventeenth, nineteen seventy two, and was ten years
old at the time of her disappearance. On February nineteenth,
nineteen eighty three, Joanne disappeared from an area near her
home in Fraser Valley in British Columbia, Canada, after having

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an argument.

Speaker 11 (02:13:10):
With her sister.

Speaker 12 (02:13:12):
The girls had been out for a walk and their
parents weren't home. They had an argument and Joanne started
to cry, and her sister ran home and locked her
out of the house. Joe Anne then walked to the
Penny Pincer's store that used to be near veteran Watson
Rhoads in Sardis. She walked into the store and spoke
to the clerk behind the counter before going outside to

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use the.

Speaker 11 (02:13:33):
Public payphone booth to make a call.

Speaker 12 (02:13:36):
Joe Anne called the operator to try and connect with
her parents, and witnesses came forward, recording that they had
seen a man inside the with.

Speaker 11 (02:13:43):
Her at the time.

Speaker 12 (02:13:45):
Jo Anne did manage to make contact with her mother
during that call and asked her mother to come and
pick her up. A man suddenly grabbed the receiver and
told Joanne's mother that if she wasn't there within a
half hour, he was going to call the police. Her
mother made it there within fifteen to twenty minutes, but
joe Anne was nowhere in sight. The case quickly went cold,

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despite the best efforts of the RCMP and all the
other agencies involved, and despite desperate please from joe Anne's
family for someone to come forward with joe Anne or
with news of what had happened to her. Her mother,
Angela Riley, in a video released by the RCMP on
February nineteenth, two thousand and eight, twenty five years after

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the disappearance occurred, pleaded with the man who had been
with her daughter by saying, please come forward. That would
relieve me of so much grief. Please come forward. As
a mother, I am pleading for you to come forward.
Please do that for me. The case remained cold, but
a break came three years later when a later dated
August twenty eighth, twenty eleven, was hand delivered to chill

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Lack RCMP. Corporal Tammy Hollingsworth from the Upper Fraser Valley
RCMP said an interview a month later in September twenty eleven,
that there's certain details I guess that only this person
would know, meaning it had been the man who had
been with joe Anne when she disappeared and wrote the letter,
though none of the contents of it has been released
to the public. More conflicting information came when the investigators

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said that they had been written an anonymous letter that
they knew to definitely be from the mysterious man in
the dark coat, the man who had last been with
a little girl before.

Speaker 11 (02:15:23):
She disappeared back in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 12 (02:15:26):
And that they weren't weren't under present sure that he
had written the twenty eleven letter after all. In twenty
twenty three, just days before the fortieth aniversary of Joanne's disappearance,
Chiliwac RCMP announced that they had identified the man who
had been in the phone booth with joe Anne that
faithful night. RCMP released this statement quote Recently police were

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able to identify this mail and rule him out as
a suspect. His identity will not be shared with the
public at this time end quote. Grime reporter John Daley,
who's been following the case all along, said that it's
perplexing to learn that the police have finally identified the
man who was in the booth with a little girl,
but that after all these years, they publicly stated that

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he wasn't a suspect or even a person of interest anymore.
He goes on to say, one can only wonder what
they've told him and why it took so long to
find him, and why he didn't come forward earlier, or
have they discovered who he was, determined who he was
and he's dead.

Speaker 11 (02:16:25):
We don't know now.

Speaker 12 (02:16:27):
There are obviously more questions and answers in this case,
more than ever before. But the Chiliwack RCMP said that
they haven't ever given up public, that they will find
out what happened to little Joanne and that they will
never stop investigating this case until they have all the answers.
John Daly said the police went to the wall to
solve this case all those years ago, and it looks

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like they're prepared to go to the wall again. Anyone
with any information into the disappearance of Joanne Marie Peterson
should contact Constable pe Neats from the Chiliwack RCM Serious
Crimes Unit at six zero four seven nine two or
six one one, or to remain anonymous, you call the

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Crime Starps Canada tip Line at one eight hundred two
two two eight four seven seven. And another number you
can call with information is that of the British Columbia
Our CMP at seven eight eight two nine zero three
one zero zero.

Speaker 1 (02:17:27):
All right, that is Steve Stocktor tells he told miss
preson Mysteries. Once again, we appreciate Steve Stockton being a
part of the after Hours show. Here, the after Hours
radio show. We're gonna go ahead and jump into because
this is Friday, this is me feeling in for Dave,
so we're gonna actually do the Paranormal Report right now,
and we have none other than our guests for the

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night here, mister Christian McLeod. Let's go ahead and bring
him up to the stage.

Speaker 6 (02:18:01):
Hey, how you doing, Rober I love that theme music.

Speaker 1 (02:18:18):
Yeah, that is perfectly for you here, mister Christian McLeod,
Thank you so much for joining me here as I
feeling for Dave Scott tonight with the Paranormal Report. How
you been, man, I've been great.

Speaker 6 (02:18:29):
I've been just working as much as I can.

Speaker 1 (02:18:31):
How you've been? You know, I've actually have had a
couple of weeks off from doing shows, so it kind
of feels good to be back to it. And uh,
you know, I had a great conversation with Blondes and
Booze earlier tonight here, so yeah, I'm living a life
right now, man, I'm living a life.

Speaker 14 (02:18:47):
Yeah, I cut the tail under that. That seemed pretty interesting.
I think they want you to go investigate with them,
That's what I gathered from there.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
You know, I'm open to doing that. I've always said
that I have no problem. But I'm just standing in
the back. So I gotta be the guy that gets
yeah back to tell the story. Someone has to tell
the exactly. So I know I know your monster hunter. Uh,
we've talked before, I have interviewed you before. And what

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I wanted to kind of get into is I'm not
really well versed in the crypti world. As I was
telling Blobs and Booze earlier, Christian and Brandy, you know,
I'm in the UFO sphere pretty heavy.

Speaker 9 (02:19:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:19:27):
I know the paranormal is there because things have I've
seen things that are unexplainable as far as that goes,
But I have not had cryptid experience or bigfoot experience.
So when we talk about let's just start with bigfoot.
We talked about Bigfoot earlier tonight. What is your feeling
on Bigfoot? Like, what do you feel Bigfoot is?

Speaker 14 (02:19:50):
Well, I have you know, I personally think he's either
a descendant of the Dapithecus or he's nephlim. I'm not
of these guys that are into the woo woo when
it comes to a big foot. And I've always I've
always thought they're corporeal, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:20:06):
I just think they're.

Speaker 14 (02:20:08):
Biologically designed to be able to like disappear in the woods,
and I think they're just perfectly camouflaged.

Speaker 6 (02:20:13):
I think when people see them disappear.

Speaker 14 (02:20:15):
You know, that's that's just you know, look for a
tiger in the woods a fast second disappeared, Look for
a predator. Look for how many times you see bears
in the woods that you know you walk right by
something you don't even know. We did an experiment got
about nine years ago, uh, where we had one of
our guys dress in a gillie suit and we put
them five feet off the trail. It was it five
feet off the measured out five feet off the trail

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and we just told them not to move, and we
had I think seventy five eighty people walk by them.

Speaker 6 (02:20:44):
Nobody noticed them.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (02:20:46):
And it's just one of those things where we had everyone,
you know, we're just doing this little uh we called
it big foot one on one back then, and we're
just doing this little big foot one on one and
all of a sudden, you know, we've got everyone sitting
down and I put a flashlight on you know, tiny
and I said, everyone, you walk by here and nobody
saw this, so you can tell me if this was
a real live bigfoot, how many would you see him?

Speaker 3 (02:21:07):
You know?

Speaker 6 (02:21:08):
And and everyone was shocked because they're like, oh, he
just got there.

Speaker 1 (02:21:11):
He just got there.

Speaker 6 (02:21:11):
No, he'd been there. We actually had him.

Speaker 14 (02:21:14):
We did it a second time, and we actually put
a GoPro on its chest because people didn't believe he
was there and we were rewinded and they got to
see themselves walk by and they were stairing and no
one noticed anything.

Speaker 6 (02:21:24):
So I think these these particular creatures have the ability
just to blending with their environment, you know. Uh, there's
there's I've heard.

Speaker 14 (02:21:33):
That their their their hair is actually two bull kind
of like polar bears, and will absorb the lin and
things like that.

Speaker 6 (02:21:39):
I don't know. I you know, Rob, I don't know that, man,
But you never know. Nature can do anything.

Speaker 9 (02:21:44):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:21:44):
But I think they're they're very much real, corporeal uh.
And then there's partner, the things that are left over
from the nephlum, you know.

Speaker 10 (02:21:51):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:21:51):
And then that goes to Genesis six. And I've always
been a big believer in that. So it's it's a
debate with me. You know, it's like any different any
different day, you know, maybe Monday, I think something else.

Speaker 6 (02:22:01):
And what makes me laugh is I know you're a
UFO guy. You'll see my moof on hat.

Speaker 1 (02:22:05):
Yes sir, Yes, I'm.

Speaker 6 (02:22:07):
A big move on.

Speaker 14 (02:22:07):
I'm a big UFO guy myself, So there's even part
of me believes maybe maybe they're extraterrestrial. Maybe you know,
but I've I don't deal in absolutes anymore. I used
to be when I was young.

Speaker 6 (02:22:19):
I've been here this for twenty seven years now, crypt
and pound romal investigations.

Speaker 14 (02:22:23):
And I was younger, I was convinced that was it.
This is the one way it is, and there's it.
And then as I got older and think, okay, maybe
there's another way. And then you know, you're the older
you get, the more open your mind gets. And I'll
be honest with you, it's I don't I don't put
anything out of around possibility. I give everything at least
a one percent possibility. And that's where I think these
things come from. But you know, if if you look
at Gary Wayne's book The Genesis Sixth Conspiracy, that guy,

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you ever want to talk to someone that you really,
if you ever want to feel stupid one day, rob
just talk to this guy and you just keet sitting here.
This guy spent thirty years writing this book and he
quoted I mean, he's crossed reference all this biblical and
the guys are brilliant.

Speaker 6 (02:23:02):
He's brilliant.

Speaker 14 (02:23:02):
It's one of my it's one of the guys I
want to interview or just I just want to hang out,
have a beer with him, talk to him.

Speaker 6 (02:23:07):
But he's just one of these guys.

Speaker 14 (02:23:09):
And after I got done reading his book, I'm thinking, well,
you know, and that's when I started thinking, well, maybe
there's a little more of this netphlim thing.

Speaker 1 (02:23:16):
But it's just.

Speaker 6 (02:23:19):
I honestly, I wish I knew one hundred percent, I
really do, but I just my gut tells me that they're.

Speaker 14 (02:23:25):
Natural and they're from the planet, you know, they're from
the Earth, you know, and then they're real creatures.

Speaker 6 (02:23:28):
I just think they're highly intelligent.

Speaker 1 (02:23:31):
Yeah, you know, and and yeah, that's definitely a rabble.
We can jump down because I had some thoughts and actually,
I haven't talked to you in a while, so this
would be good so I can drop these on you.
But Bigfoot himself, you know, I know from talking to
people and seeing expressions on people's faces that they saw
something crazy out there, you know. I when we get

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to the he can't be film sort of thing, though,
that's where I'm just like, I don't know. And that's
kind of where I started asking questions. So I'm gonna
ask you some of those here as we get ready
to go. Uh, when we come back from the break.
We're going into the break right now, guys, don't go anywhere.
We'll be back with the last half hour of the
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We'll see you right back once again. If you leave,
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are still live on YouTube.

Speaker 6 (02:24:44):
Yes, good man, Rob, you look good man. I haven't
seen while you've been. You've been feeling all.

Speaker 1 (02:24:48):
Right, appreciated, appreciate it. Yeah, you know I've been feeling
Actually the last couple of weeks, I took off because
I was feeling kind of just down tired, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 14 (02:24:57):
Oh dude, yeah, I totally I tell you, I got
I'm a teacher normally, and I took a smester off
just because I kept waking up and I felt like
I hadn't slapped. Uh, you know, I wasn't wasn't feeling good,
wasn't doing much. It's got real lethargic, lazy, you know,
and I tell you what, it took me a couple
of months of months to bounce back to.

Speaker 6 (02:25:18):
So you know, I don't know what it was.

Speaker 14 (02:25:21):
I really don't, but uh, you know, I feel a
lot better now. You know, it look good for colors back.
Like last time I saw you, you're a little like
you know I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:25:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I know exactly what you mean.
It's a yeah, it's another tone. I know exactly what
you mean, and it's part of it.

Speaker 6 (02:25:38):
I get like when I get real pal pale, I
look like a zombie.

Speaker 1 (02:25:41):
So yeah, it was more like grayish. I know the tone.
I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, yeah, I just
been feeling down. So what I've been thinking about doing,
because here's here's what I figured out. And it's crazy
that I would even say this, but it's real, it's real.
I am addicted to YouTube, right I I am literally
addicted to YouTube to the point to where I don't

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watch regular TV anymore. All I watch is YouTube. But
it's because you know, in this field, and when we
do these shows, we have to research and we have
to watch other YouTube videos. But I find myself locked
into YouTube percent of the time, and I got a
good I gotta watched the videos.

Speaker 6 (02:26:23):
Yeah, you fall down, hours go flying by.

Speaker 1 (02:26:27):
So I made it a conscious decision to disconnect from YouTube,
Like when I'm not doing shows during the week and
all that, just step away. I'm not consuming any YouTube
and get I'll do some other things cause I think
that is playing into some of the things.

Speaker 14 (02:26:43):
That's what was my thing, wasn't I was just spend
enough time outside. Ain't some fresh air. It's putting on
a lot of weight. Yeah, come home, eat a box
of pizza, you know, drink a couple of beers, and
watch YouTube per hour and then you know, and it
is just a different because the thing is you don't
want someone knowing more than you know. You still want
to stay ahead of the situation in the game. It's
like you you can't. It's you just can't because otherwise

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you're gonna spend twelve hours a day just in front
of a screen.

Speaker 1 (02:27:10):
And I don't want to do that exactly exactly, And
I've been finding myself falling into that. And I just
came to the realization and I was like, dude, i
think I'm addicted to YouTube, Like wow, And I was like, okay,
So now I need to step away from it so
that that's the goal. That's what I'm trying to do.
And when I've done for the last couple of weeks,
I didn't do a show last weekend and kind of

(02:27:31):
just decompress and taking a break. Plus, there's nothing going
on in the UFO world, which is you know the
other thing that what about what about that?

Speaker 6 (02:27:39):
That Atlas thirty one? Man, what's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
We'll see I want to talk to you about that.

Speaker 6 (02:27:45):
Yeah, we just doesn't you remember Christina my fiance. You
spoke to her briefly like yeah, I saw you.

Speaker 14 (02:27:54):
Yeah, yeah, And we've been working on this, uh, you know,
this this thirty one thing, and I don't even know
what to think about it because it's like, what the
hell is this thing? Because when you.

Speaker 6 (02:28:03):
Got that guy from em I or or yeah was
a harbor Bobby Low, Yeah, one.

Speaker 14 (02:28:08):
Of these guys say, hey, this thing is changing his trajectory,
it's changed its course, it's slowing down, it speeds up.
That scares the hell out of me because that's the
one thing we are not ready. We're not ready to
fight that kind of fight. There's no Will Smith and
you know, a great speed payiton in some secret bunker,
or they've been working on you know, hybrid alien aircraft

(02:28:30):
to save us.

Speaker 2 (02:28:31):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:28:32):
At that point, it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
But at least in that movie, it wasn't it the
president to said, Okay, I'm gonna take it on the
chin for humanity, I'm do it. So hopefully we get
some of that action here this time.

Speaker 14 (02:28:44):
No, it is if there was one guy that was
gonna say screw it, I'll do it, I think Trump
would do it.

Speaker 6 (02:28:50):
I think he'd be in there. He could prug himself
fitted for a suit, pray pray pres on it or what.
But I don't know if the guy knows how to
fly or not. That's the benefit.

Speaker 14 (02:28:58):
I was like that when we had military leaders in
the Oval Office, because those guys know how to throw down.

Speaker 1 (02:29:04):
That's true. That is true. Yeah, yeah, that is true.

Speaker 6 (02:29:10):
I don't know man that that that does scare me up.

Speaker 14 (02:29:12):
But that'll be a good topic because I mean that,
I don't think people are really paying attention to that thing.

Speaker 6 (02:29:16):
They're like, oh, it's nothing and there's never nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:29:20):
Yeah, I think they're paying attention to it, but it's
just wow, Like what as we were talking earlier with
Brandy Christal what can you do? Like if it parks
right here? Like what can you even do?

Speaker 6 (02:29:32):
Honestly?

Speaker 14 (02:29:33):
Between you, Rob, seriously, you know what I did. I
thought about I have a contingency plan for end of
days and things like that. Mine's real simple. I don't
want to be one of these survivors. I don't want
to be walking around nuclear fallout. I don't want to
have to go cruising, you know, looking for water.

Speaker 1 (02:29:47):
That's right there to start, we're coming back right now.
Cool oh man, almost the fall was showing crash all right, everybody,

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welcome back spaced out radio Now to Hours radio show.
We are back on the back half of our three
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McLoud getting into some good stuff. Also, we had a
conversation earlier with Christa and Brandy from Blonde and Booth.
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It's absolutely free. You can watch it anytime YouTube dot
com forward slash has spaced out radio. As we get
back into the conversation, so yes, uh, Christy during the break,
you were bringing up and good thing to talk about
is the three three I Atlas. Okay, it's on its
way here. The trajectory is crazy. Ivy lo upset is

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coming in from a weird trajectory from outside the Solar System,
and it's going to pass Jupiter. It's going to when
it actually gets close to the Earth, it will actually
be on the other side of the Sun, which they
think is really weird.

Speaker 12 (02:31:22):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:31:23):
Will They're also saying that's not a normal that's not
a normal type trajectory.

Speaker 3 (02:31:27):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:31:28):
You know, obvy guy from I think it was from Harvard,
he said, that's not normally. He goes, most things get
pulled in on our side.

Speaker 5 (02:31:35):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (02:31:36):
And like this kind of brings up the old Bureau
and Planet X, like you know, this thing could be
in a sequential orbit on the opposite side of the
sunkip deal and that that's something that's very very strange, unnatural.
I as we were talking about earlier, you know, both
you guys, you and are UFO guys, and uh, this thing,
I'm not gonna lie to you. They said, I is

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going to be here in what November or October?

Speaker 1 (02:31:59):
November?

Speaker 14 (02:32:00):
That scares the but Jesus out of me, brother, I mean,
I'm not gonna lie to it. I was, as I
was saying to you earlier, the world's not ready for this.
We can't get her own. We can't get our stuff together,
you know, to get along in the Middle East for
three thousand years, let alone. You know what happens if
this thing's nasty or hostile. You know, how's that gonna work.
I don't know about you, but my lightsaber doesn't cut

(02:32:20):
through or anything. It's just a piece plastic.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
Now, you're absolutely right, and that's where this is where
we hope that some of that black budget money is
being spent for planetary defense. That's what I've been hoping
this whole time. Like it's like, okay, work on craft,
but please be working on planetary defense though, because this
is something I think we're gonna need at some point
in the near future.

Speaker 14 (02:32:44):
Well, you know, Trump did start the Space Force in
his last administration, and you know, everyone laughed at it
and they said, you know, when Uncle Joe got into office,
he said he was gonna cancel it.

Speaker 6 (02:32:55):
He never did, so maybe there is something there. Yeah,
I'm one of these guys.

Speaker 14 (02:32:59):
I'm I'm convinced we'd have technology we can't even fathom.
You don't, you know, if you just look at our
historic timeline, look at the leaps and bounds we've made,
say the last one hundred years. I just I just
look at okay, nine one hundred years go from World
War Two. So you've got nineteen forty five where the
fastest thing we're flying is at four hundred and thirty
four mile an hour Hellcat airplane. And by nineteen fifty,

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you know, we've got we're going MAK one with Chuck
Yeger and a completely different engine system and a completely
different body style. So something happening there, you know, I
think it was Roswell, that's me. But something had to
have happened in there because all the technology. Look at
how fast our technology bopped. I mean, yeah, I look

(02:33:42):
at this my cell phone. You know this is an
older galaxy. There's more technology in this thing than there
was for what they used to send people.

Speaker 1 (02:33:50):
The moon exactly exactly.

Speaker 6 (02:33:53):
You know, it bapples me.

Speaker 1 (02:33:56):
Yeah. My whole thing with that is is that I
you know, I'm on the h I don't know if
we reverse engineered Bandwagon. That's kind of where I'm at
because because of exactly what you said, just this short
amount of time, the right brothers took the first flight
in the early nineteen hundreds. Here we are a little
over one hundred years later, and was supposed we were

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anti revetted. Right now, I think I think that we
have been influenced by the craft that we've retrieved. But
I don't know that we reverse engineer. I'm not there yet,
only because what proof do we have, Like, what do
we have that's ever come out that shows that we
have anything new, any propulsion, new propotion.

Speaker 6 (02:34:38):
I see it now, that's where I get. You know,
I just saw this clip.

Speaker 14 (02:34:42):
Trump and Putin were walking on an air base and
they had the B one bomber and like two you know,
F twenty two raptors, this coort of thing, and you
know these guys they're they're looking at it, and you
think they'd be like in Marvel, I'm like, wow that
look at that thing. Look at the way that thing moves,
blah blah, and they're.

Speaker 1 (02:35:00):
Just kind of like eh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:35:03):
Like I mean, I know, if I saw that day,
I'll be out there my cell phone take. But you know,
they looked like they could have been you know, oh hey,
yeah that's great. I mean, there's just they weren't impressed.
And that makes me think they must have something that
they've seen that just for them to be impressed with that,
you know, it's got to be fifty sixty years ahead
of its time.

Speaker 6 (02:35:22):
I always go back to the old Lucky Martin.

Speaker 14 (02:35:25):
Video on YouTube where the guy that used to run
skunk Works he was having his retirement.

Speaker 6 (02:35:30):
I can't remember. I think his name was now something.

Speaker 14 (02:35:34):
Huh been Rich, Yeah, ben Rick, thank you ben Rich.
And you remember they walk around to him and you
can tell he had a few and they said, you know,
what's the most advanced thing you got? He looks, I
want he goes, I want you to think about Star
Wars star Trek. We're fifty years past that. And when
did he say that? He said that in what the
late nineties?

Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
It was ninety three issue four.

Speaker 3 (02:35:55):
What?

Speaker 14 (02:35:56):
And they made they freaked out when he said all
that stuff. I mean, everyone was, so, what do we
really have?

Speaker 1 (02:36:02):
See? So here's here's how anton because yes, that statement,
we have the tech to take et home essentially is
what he said. And we know our good friend Jim
Goodall is his buddies would been rich and he said,
ben Rich said that to him. And when I interviewed Jim.
I said, Jim, think about it like this though, because
Jim is also friends with Bob Bazar. So let's let's

(02:36:25):
see what makes sense. So Bob Bazaar has claimed he
was at Area fifty one or S four in nineteen
eighty nine worked on these craft. They hadn't figured it
out yet. He felt like they bring these things out
maybe every ten years and try something new to see
if they could crack the code. We had Lakatski in
twenty sixteen say that they recently just breached the whole

(02:36:47):
of the UFO, got inside of it. So you know,
the thing is is that, okay, let's make let's make
Bob Bazar make sense along with the ben Rich statements.
So ben Rich would have been four years after bibles
Art came out and said they hadn't figured it out. However,
been Rich says we have the tech to take et
home that can go two different ways. So that we

(02:37:08):
have the tech to take et home could simply mean
we retrieved the tech and we haven't been.

Speaker 6 (02:37:14):
Rob It could be a Stargate type situation.

Speaker 14 (02:37:17):
I mean, we we don't know, uh you know, I
mean we look at look at how much you know,
those that whole Stargate meet. Though it was great in
the nineties and then the early two thousands, but then
it kind of dissipated. But there was actual archaeological evidence
about stuff like that, and you used to be able
to find it.

Speaker 6 (02:37:34):
Now it's just kind of gone.

Speaker 14 (02:37:35):
I mean, I remember seeing the pictures of them excavating
other pyramids, you know, interesting things like that. And now
with all this new stuff going on in Egypt and them,
they're finally admitting to stuff that they might be you know,
you know, these things possibly could have been you know,
power stations. We can't tell, but you know, they're finally
showing what's under them, you know. And it's twenty twenty six,

(02:37:56):
you know, or twenty twenty five, excuse me. And by
the time you know, we even hear anything else about it,
it's it might just they just might cut it off,
or you know, we're gonna have a visitor land on
the White House, you know, parking lot and say hey,
we're here, here's how things.

Speaker 6 (02:38:08):
Are gonna go from now on. So I mean, it's
just one of these things.

Speaker 14 (02:38:11):
But that's the fascination with you know, the UFO world,
you know, and and and you know, I always correlate
that with the crypto and the paranormal because I do
all of it, and uh, when you get the real
good stuff, somehow it's linked in with the other two.
I know it sounds weird, but somehow the paranormal and
the CRYPTI stuff. Somehow there's always if you have a
good UFO report somewhere around that area, you're gonna have

(02:38:33):
a paranormal report, and there's gonna.

Speaker 6 (02:38:35):
Be CRYPTI reports.

Speaker 14 (02:38:36):
So that's why I always thought they were all connected.
That's why when I did American Crypti and Paranormal Society,
I just everything was inclusive.

Speaker 2 (02:38:43):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:38:43):
I just didn't want to be a ghost guy and
I didn't want to be a big foot wacko.

Speaker 5 (02:38:46):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:38:46):
I figured I put him together and then throw UFOs
in there, and just you know, you're a real big nutcase.

Speaker 1 (02:38:52):
That makes a lot of sense, and it we you know,
thinking about as you lay that out, that would be
actually if so, you know, how would you have these
paranormal teams, you have a medium, you have all these
different people on one team. That would be cool if
you had an actual phenomena team that consisted of big
for research.

Speaker 6 (02:39:11):
My team's like that now, and that's that's the way
we go in uh you know.

Speaker 14 (02:39:16):
But the other thing is, you know, we don't charge anyone.
We've never charged anyone to help them. We'll help with
paranormal or crypto activity UFO stuff. I just had good luck.
This is you know, we can't help with that. Certain
things we can do with the paranormal and certain things
we do in the cryptid field. We can give them
some things to do that will deter things. But uh UFO.
We had a case where it started out as paranormal

(02:39:40):
and then it went to cryptid and this is recent
and then where we were on the property, we were
checking it out and I learned years ago I always
carry a Geiger Count with me.

Speaker 6 (02:39:51):
I had an experience.

Speaker 14 (02:39:52):
We had a we found what I believe was a
UFO landing site in the middle of the Appalachis. I'll
be more happy to show you pictures I've never published
because I still think they're cool, because they've got We had.
We found this thirty foot circle and it was nothing
but dead and gray in the middle of this lush
green forest, and you could see where something had gone
up into the canopy. It was just you could see

(02:40:12):
where three trees had been burnt. Uh, and it all
the surrounding greenery had turned to that. You know, that's
your noble gray, you see when the trouble, it's that
kind of gray. And it was just a big circle
of death. But you could see it looked like something
that landed there. And when we started doing the real
measurements on it, you know it had it was it
was rad three rads of radiation.

Speaker 4 (02:40:35):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:40:35):
That's pretty high.

Speaker 5 (02:40:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:40:37):
And uh.

Speaker 14 (02:40:38):
When we went to this other property, the current one,
we found the first thing we found was bigfoot tracks
and the woman had it called us. Originally he said
she had a dog man issue. She said she knew
it was a dog man because she saw this thing's
face and she said it was either dog man or werewolf.
She you know, didn't know what it was, but she
started scared the hell out of her because it had
to lean down to look her, look at her through

(02:41:00):
the sliding glass doors. And this is something that started
over and over again, and then she'd have a problem
with like bigfoot. And we found friends for both of
them there, so there was both bible there. But then
she said the real scary stuff happens though when the
lights come down, and you don't know what happens, because
she said, as she was moving around she see the

(02:41:23):
lights come down, she'd have memory loss and she's not
sure what was going on. And to me, that's that's
gotta be ufo. I mean, that's but again, that to me,
would might probably explain why we had the radiation.

Speaker 6 (02:41:34):
And that was in how many places?

Speaker 14 (02:41:37):
That was in three different places on the property. And
what really what was really weird is you had a
whole family split up on this pretty good sized property.
The brother was seeing the dead grandmother in his garage
and someone hanging. The lady was having problems with the
caneid or the dog man, and she said the bigfoot

(02:41:58):
wasn't really bothering, but she'd see it every once in
a while. She'd find footprints and what would happen was
to knock over the bird bath and take seeds out
of the bird fear. And then she had paranormal events
happening because there was a barn that used to be
in front of her and during the Civil War they
had hung a few people there for treason.

Speaker 6 (02:42:16):
And then it even gets.

Speaker 14 (02:42:18):
Better because allegedly there's some kind of Confederate gold on
the property that was buried right before the Confederacy fell.
So it's i mean the place little has everything. But
it's very interesting because you know, this is another case
where it's just not one thing, it's you know, two things,
then it's three things, and it's four things. But you know,
we found evidence of everything, and that was what it

(02:42:39):
was really scary. We haven't been back there yet. What
we're gonna be doing is when we get the fall,
we're gonna go back there with the drone and do
some aerial because allegedly there was a barn that was
built at one specific place on the property and you
can still kind of see the outline of it, and
that's where they think the gold is buried. They just
they really want to find out what's in there, and

(02:43:00):
you know, will help them. We've got all the equipment
for it. That's kind of what we do. But it's
just fascinating because it's not just one thing. As I said,
it just corresponds on a bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:43:09):
Yeah, and you know, there was one guy that the
married the bigfoot sightings to extraterrestrials. The only thing I've
heard that kind of made sense as to why they
would be related, And he said something like, what if
the Bigfoot were actually out as protectors of the extraterrestrials,

(02:43:31):
so they like form a perimeter essentially, while behind the
lines extraterrestrial craft have landed and are doing some sort
of work, and the sasquatch are kind of there to
kind of keep you away from the activity. I was like,
you know, I could see that, you know, I could
see where that could make sense. But I haven't really

(02:43:52):
heard any other theories or things that marry these things
together as far as them being related. So I don't know.
I don't know, but I did want to get you.

Speaker 6 (02:44:03):
Now that's like, I don't know that to me.

Speaker 14 (02:44:05):
I mean, it's nice, it's it's a good idea, I guess,
but realistically, I mean, I'm the big thing and I
think that's going on in THEFO world lately is all
the stuff that's underground here on planet Earth, like the
reptoids and we've got what three different types of reptoids
living underground, and you know.

Speaker 6 (02:44:23):
All this other stuff.

Speaker 14 (02:44:24):
I think that's probably the only thing that I've heard
that's remotely recent with exception of this Atlas thirty one.

Speaker 6 (02:44:31):
So I you know, you never know.

Speaker 5 (02:44:34):
Man.

Speaker 6 (02:44:34):
It's that's the thing that makes it so interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:44:36):
Circle back to the atlas, because I know during the
break you were before the break, you were talking about
having some sort of contingency plan in case.

Speaker 6 (02:44:45):
This is My contingency plan is really easy. I'm taking
my hot slice for going to the highest mountain peg.

Speaker 14 (02:44:51):
I got a thirty year old bottle of Scotch to
opu sex stogies, and we're just gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:44:56):
Watch the end, watch it happen. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
what do you I don't.

Speaker 14 (02:45:00):
I want to be one, Like I said earlier, I
don't want to be one of those guys that lives
after an apocalypse.

Speaker 6 (02:45:05):
I don't even know.

Speaker 14 (02:45:05):
I don't want to be like scrounging for food and
water beer. I'm sorry, That's just not what I want
to do.

Speaker 1 (02:45:11):
Here's the coldest part about that is the word contingency,
because they're they're the government has something called a continuity
of government plan.

Speaker 6 (02:45:21):
Oh yeah, they're gonna go underground.

Speaker 1 (02:45:22):
Man. There and the billionaires which are currently building all
these bunkers everywhere right now, elon, ma, all these guys
are building bunkers, and if the event happens and it
could be express feel, it could be asteroid, it could
be many things. These guys are going into these bunkers
and locking the door, which means you and I and
a lot of others done. Yeah, we're kind of just

(02:45:43):
sitting out here right. Just hey, let's see what happens
to these guys sort of they I think people, and
this is what I say. I'm like, you know, because
you know they have that contingency plan. They're making sure
they make it to the other side of the event.
If you want to make sure you make it to
the other side out of the event, then maybe you
should map out a cave somewhere.

Speaker 6 (02:46:05):
Live with Appalachia. And the thing is, rob the truth
of the matter is it won't matter.

Speaker 14 (02:46:11):
It won't matter because we're not going to have the
ability to go deep enough and stay down long enough.
You know, we don't have the ability to have watery circulators,
and we don't have the we don't have the ability,
we don't have the function, we don't have the engineering skills.
You know, I'm on the bet half of these places
run on plutonium. You know, we don't have nuclear reacty,
do you have a nuclear actor? I'll just bring this Yeah,

(02:46:35):
you know all that stuff, the seeds, all that. I mean,
you need a government to do that. But what you're
what really takes me off is your hundred percent rendus.
I start thinking about it really does piss me off
because why is it that, you know, all these people
should have this ability to not worry and then the
rest of us just we're nothing. Because it really tells

(02:46:55):
you what the government thinks of its people when you start,
when you have a situation like this, then you know
what the government thinks of you.

Speaker 1 (02:47:01):
Well, not only that, but you paid for it too.

Speaker 6 (02:47:05):
That's yeah, that's your thing. I paid for it.

Speaker 14 (02:47:07):
And now I'll believe the first one to take a
bullet ahead trying to get it in there, and they'll
be like, no, this isn't yours, you know, And that's
what will happened. They're not gonna let people in there,
people like me. They're not gonna they're not gonna let
some regular guy.

Speaker 6 (02:47:19):
You know, what do you have to offer? Well, I
was a cryptos walas andlah blah blah blah.

Speaker 14 (02:47:24):
Right, Okay, get out of here, go back in the woods, then, pal,
you know, I mean, that's that's gonna say to me.
There's nothing I bring to the table. And you know,
there's what three hundred and ninety million Americans? What are
we gonna do?

Speaker 2 (02:47:36):
You know?

Speaker 14 (02:47:36):
They they're they're gonna have contin unity Congress, continunity government.
So you're gonna have the Senate, You're gonna have the
upper echelon. Uh, you're gonna have the healthy representatives of
the Senate there. They'll be fine. They're all gonna go somewhere.
Uncle Donald, he's got several places.

Speaker 9 (02:47:51):
He can go.

Speaker 14 (02:47:52):
He doesn't care. Uh, you know, and they'll start over
without us. But you're right, what happens to us? We
ended up evolving into those you know, mutated monsters like
you know in the Old Time Machine movie.

Speaker 6 (02:48:04):
Yeah, the way she.

Speaker 1 (02:48:05):
Wells, it's sad because not in connuity of government. And
then I've also talked about just the human beings getting
out the space. It's gonna be the same sort of
thing there where you and I won't be able to
afford a ticket on that spaceship that those to colonize
the next planet will be stuck here. We'll be too old.

Speaker 6 (02:48:24):
He Let's be honest, Rob, we're too old for that.
We're old language, We're too old, you know, I'll be fifty.
I'm tifty two.

Speaker 14 (02:48:32):
There's no way they're gonna grab a fifty two year
old guy who's chubby and we've got high blood pressure
with a sixth sense of humor. It's gonna say, oh, Okay,
this is the guy we want. Let's go have him
start a new whole human race. Let's bring him. Okay, Yeah,
that's that's a good That's She's not gonna happen for me.

Speaker 1 (02:48:49):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (02:48:51):
I get that.

Speaker 14 (02:48:51):
The only thing I could say is, look, I can
possibly make it still in an emergency situation there, that's
all I can do for you.

Speaker 6 (02:48:57):
I can probably get you there.

Speaker 14 (02:48:59):
That might work for someone you know, But let's be honest,
that's not gonna That's not gonna save me anything.

Speaker 6 (02:49:04):
I was watching that new Alien TV show that have
you seen that?

Speaker 1 (02:49:07):
Not yet?

Speaker 6 (02:49:08):
I like, I don't know, but like Alien Joe Aliens.

Speaker 1 (02:49:11):
With the Mouth was hacking Alien Earth is what it's
called alien.

Speaker 6 (02:49:15):
It's that.

Speaker 14 (02:49:16):
I was thinking to myself, there's no way that I
could run away from something like that, or uh, I'd
even go into space for a sixty three years sleep
trip and then wake up, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:49:29):
Blah blah, it's not I just couldn't do it. It's
just it's not feasible.

Speaker 14 (02:49:32):
You know, maybe if if the next generation could do it,
but I don't think they could do that either. Actually,
being a teacher, I can tell you right now, I
don't trust them to do that. So I just I
just don't see that happening, you know, I just don't.
I don't think we could pull it off.

Speaker 1 (02:49:47):
And so that's what I'm saying. So with this three,
I adalys comeing so in the crazy part. And maybe
this was a mistake because I was looking online the
other day and it said I know, Ivy Lope came
out initially said zero point two percent chance that it
would be extratrest real or intelligence, and then I saw
a video where it said that he now says forty percent.

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So I don't know that's true, but it's video.

Speaker 6 (02:50:12):
But I didn't hear his point too.

Speaker 14 (02:50:14):
I heard the guy said the point plank he said,
and then like he he said something a couple of
months ago and then he hasn't said anything.

Speaker 6 (02:50:21):
But it's that OBVI guy from Harvard.

Speaker 14 (02:50:23):
Yeah, and he said that it changed his course, it
changed his trajectory and it changes speed.

Speaker 6 (02:50:32):
So now we're not hearing any of that.

Speaker 1 (02:50:33):
If it turns out to be if it turns out
to be uh intelligent, and it parks itself right outside
of earth, Uh do you do you think it's going
to be good or bad? Bad? Things going to be bad.

Speaker 6 (02:50:49):
Here's what, Rob, Here's why I said. It's Rob. I
hate saying, and I'm you know, I'm a religious man.
I believe in God, and God created the universe everything.
Aliens are in the universe.

Speaker 14 (02:51:00):
You know, if you read the Ncene Creed, it talks
about what you see and when you don't see, what
you don't want, you don't know's. It's like pretty much
right there if you read it. But here's my thing, Robin,
you're an intelligent guy.

Speaker 6 (02:51:10):
Let me ask you this. What the hell do we
have to offer the universe?

Speaker 1 (02:51:15):
Nothing? Destruction, chaos?

Speaker 6 (02:51:18):
We're blights, all right, it doesn't matter. I don't care.

Speaker 14 (02:51:24):
It's just something in our nature. We just it doesn't matter.
It's not a racial thing. It's not a religious thing.
It's not an intelligence thing. There's something in human beings
that just makes us stupid. We can't get along with
each other, and then you're gonna give us the keys
to the Kingdom. We're gonna get warped drive and go
to other planets and spread our type of intelligence or
what we think is right.

Speaker 6 (02:51:45):
I just don't see it, man, I just won't.

Speaker 1 (02:51:47):
I don't see it won't happen. And here's what we'll do, man,
because I'm obviously enjoying this conversation, but we have to
cut the show short right here. I want to thank
you Christian for coming on in. Let's do this again soon,
very man. You got my number, Okay, I do.

Speaker 14 (02:52:02):
I I love having listen, I love space that radio.
So whatever I can do with you, guys, you know,
I just enjoy it. It's always having fun talking to
you because you're always You're always right there because you
know it's it's it's it's just nice to have the
ability to talk with someone that knows exactly what you're saying,
and you know, there's there's no beating around the bush.

Speaker 6 (02:52:19):
This is what I think and is what you know. Uh,
history has taught us. So I appreciate your time, and
I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 11 (02:52:26):
On the show.

Speaker 1 (02:52:27):
Yeah, thank you so much. Well, I'll call you. We'll
set something up. We got to figure it out and
then outside of that, have a great rest of your night.
Uh till the wife Hey, and you guys have a
great rest of your morning. I guess at two in
the morning out there it's it's riva.

Speaker 6 (02:52:42):
Don't worry about it. But anyway, thanks Rob, God blessed.

Speaker 1 (02:52:46):
Yeah, I appreciate you. Take care. All right, guys, we're
gonna go ahead, get ready to get it out of here.
It's a fantastic show filling in for Dave Scott here
tonight and we are going to get ready to get
out of here. So we want to thank our guests
Christa and Brandy for being so awesome as they are
coming in for hours one to two. We also want

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thank the man that we hear right there, mister Ron
bumba fit though, because he's the man against us in
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