Aug. 17/25 - ALIEN PHENOMENA : The Exposure is Life Changing w/ Cate Chasse

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Speaker 1 (01:34):
Great show tonight we have k Chasse joining this UFO
researcher experience or talking to Phenomena for hours one and two.
And you know how we do it here on the show.
After hours, we get right on into the conversation. So
let's not waste any time and bring to the stage
Kate Chasse A. Hello, Kate, how are you hello?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm good, Thank you so much for.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Having me, so glad to have you here.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Tonight's talking UFOs Movie in the Needle, which we will
be doing tonight. So you know, it's always like this.
We set the ground work for future shows, in future
conversations that I know we're gonna have. So let's start
out with you know what got you into this? Did
you have any experience as young and what directed you

(02:19):
into the seat you're in today?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, I guess my first experience got me into this,
which I was six years old when it happened, and
you know, I think from that point on and that
wasn't even a UFO experience. I was more of a
what a you know, consciousness experience. But that kind of

(02:44):
led me down the road into the paranormal and you know,
just nothing not your not your sort of mainstream stuff.
So like at thirteen fourteen, I started reading about like
I was reading Edgar Cay and anything to do with paranormal,
so you know, things about seances or ghosts to everything.

(03:11):
Aliens were in there. And from an early age also
I was like totally into science fiction so Star Wars,
Star Trek. I mean, I wasn't selective either. It's like
I'm both a Trecky and a Star Wars person, and
I read science fiction. Read my first science fiction book
when I was thirteen. That was Dune, which is now

(03:33):
a movie, and that just that actually doing not like
a profound effect on my life. And then I guess
over the years I had different paranormal experiences. And then
I had my first sighting and that I think I
was That was in ninety two, so I was about

(03:56):
I think I was twenty nine years old at that time,
and that really well, I mean that blew my mind right,
blew my world, you know, after that I started having
dreams and the obsession started, which I'm sure many people
have heard about that obsession. If you've seen something, you
become obsessed. And so I was obsessed for about probably

(04:19):
five five six years after that, and then I had
to I actually had to put it aside. I just
I just you know, it was like to the point
where it was like, you know what, I need to
get on with my life. And so that's when I
went back to school. I had, I had maybe a
year of university under my belt, so I went back

(04:41):
in my thirties to finish that off and then did
my masters, got my masters at forty one, I think
it was so that time period that I was studying,
and then I got a job, so that kept me busy.
So for twenty years, maybe not quite twenty years, ten years,
I really wasn't involved in ufology at all. And I

(05:04):
think it was January twenty eighteen I was at a
party and someone mentioned about the Wiki leaks with you know,
with Tom DeLong talking to oh I forget the guy's
name from the government, and all that stuff came out
and then the TTSA TTSA stuff and then the New

(05:26):
York Times article, and so that kind of threw me
right back into it. But I was kind of like
I hadn't read about it much. I mean I had,
you know, been dabbling here and there, but not really
right like I really had put it aside. And so
I started getting back into reading about it, buying books,

(05:46):
got onto Twitter or UFO Twitter because I was on
Twitter before, but got onto the UFO Twitter somehow. I
don't even know how I got there, but just found it,
and that sort of started leading me down different directions.
So you know, I started, you know, following different people,
and I came across Richard Dolan and joined his website

(06:10):
because I after listening to many of his podcasts, I
just loved the how he thought.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
About the the phenomenon and how he wrote about it,
and you know, he was open minded but scientific about it, which.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Kind of I guess. I kind of call myself like
a sort of a hybrid between you know, the WU
and the consciousness stuff and the nuts and bolts, because
I've had both. So from from the Richard Dolan, you know,
following his his x feed and his YouTube stuff, I
got onto his website and started listening to all of

(06:52):
his podcasts. I went back into the old stuff and
so did that for months and months, and then one
day there was an ad for the Experience or Group
some I guess on his website and that's a group
that was started by j Christopher King and Stuart Davis

(07:13):
and oh, I forgot the other girl lady's name. She's
a friend of mine, but I'm blanking and so that
so getting into like I think I was like the
eighth person to sign up for that, and that really
got me into talking about my experiences because some of
the stuff, there's some stuff that I actually never spoke

(07:36):
about to anybody because I had no one I could
talk to, and no one Some of the stuff was
just too wild that you know, and I had had
the experience before talking to people and being ridiculed and
so on, and so that Experience a group really opened
up things for me. And from the Experiencer group, I

(07:59):
heard about at a conference that Richard Dole was putting
on in this platform called the Observation Deck, which was
owned by Ron Janex of Contact in the Desert, a
guy named Jordan pas and so I started volunteering for
them and helping out and pursuing X was also working

(08:21):
on that platform, so got to be friends with all
of them and sort of that led me to helping
out at Contact in the Desert and into and meeting
other people like Michael Nay from Beyond being Human and
working with him, and I just I like when I
say working, I just helped him out in different ways.

(08:43):
I don't go I'm retired now, so I don't don't
ask for pay or anything. I just like to help
out and just be a part of it. It's really
about being a part of it and who you get
to meet and so on. Yeah, that's got me into it.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
That is your story sounds a lot like minds coming in,
you know, not being a lifelong person by coming in
within the last since twenty seventeen is where people like
to draw the line.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
And it sounds like you did like what I did,
which was.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Kind of jumped in and absorbed everything that you could.
And it was a wild ride, I'll say in the
beginning for myself, because you know it's I went into
like a theoretical time machine. I immediately went back to
the beginning, and that means, you know, I'm seeing Richard Dolan,
who you speak about and I would love to get
on the show at some point, you know, as a

(09:37):
young man, and and Nick Pope and all these guys,
and then kind of moving on all the way up
until today. It was like one of those downloads people
talk about in absorbing a lot of information initially, so
I know exactly what you went through coming into the field.
And that's kind of why, you know, a lot of
people draw the line and say, hey, these are new

(09:58):
people into the field, but I, you know, I think
I can go probably head up with someone that's been
in this for a while as far as knowledge goes.
But with that being said, you talked about at six
years old having this sort of consciousness experience. Obviously you
didn't know what consciousness was at the time, but how
did you perceive that? And did you when this the

(10:21):
first time you ever told anyone about that?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Oh, like the first time I actually talked about that
probably was in the experiencer group because really, like I
wasn't going to tell my parents, you know, I might
have told the odd boyfriend or something. I probably did
probably end up telling a boyfriend or I was lucky
that way. All three of the guys, like I've never

(10:45):
been married I'm a spinster librarian, never been married. But
the three guys that I had long term relationships with,
they were all into the consciousness stuff and into UFOs
and had very open minds. So I probably told them

(11:07):
the story. But when I because when you're six years old,
the only other than human consciousness that I knew of
was God, right, so I thought I was speaking to God.
And I don't who knows who I was speaking to,
but yeah, so it was I was, you know, that summer,

(11:27):
my dog had gotten hit by a bush. He was
a bus chaser and a back in the sixties or
this might have been. Yeah, this was probably nineteen seventy.
Back in that time, you know, we used to open
our door and just let our dog out, no yard
or anything, and he and he would chase cars and

(11:48):
crazy time. But anyway, so I was walking down the
street and I saw him come running, and a bus
came along and he chased after, and I guess I
think a van hit him, and anyways, he went flying,
and so I'm, you know, six years old, and I
run over and I see that he's dead, like and
it's at six, I somehow knew understood the fact that, yeah,

(12:12):
he was dead, you know, Like I remember looking at
him and thinking, oh my god, like his eye was
all funny and he wasn't moving, and I'm like, oh,
I think he's dead. And you know, at first, there
wasn't much emotion because it was it was, you know, shocking,
but I think it set in after a while, and
I thought about it and thought about it for about

(12:34):
a month. This was about Midsummer, and then early in
the school year, it was early September. I think I
was going into Grade one and I was waiting for
my school bus and I started thinking about death and thinking, oh,
I just couldn't wrap my head around the idea of
of of of like my consciousness being just sort of

(12:55):
wiped out, and that I had that I would just
seize to exist. That just that just didn't compute with me.
And so I was just like really struggling with this
idea of dying and just no longer existing and it
just didn't feel right. And then I all of a sudden,
so I'm standing in a foyer or foyer as some

(13:17):
people might call it, and so it's a small space.
It's five by five maybe nine feet high, and two doors.
I'm in between two doors and waiting for the bus,
and all of a sudden, I, while I'm thinking of
those thoughts of death, I feel this sort of presence
enter the room. And it's hard to describe how that
felt like, but I could feel it's and it's hard

(13:42):
to describe, but it's like it felt like pressure coming
up against me. Like it wasn't uncomfortable, but I could
feel it. There was like a pressure there, and it
felt like it was this very very large, non corporeal
entity or being that was trying to fit itself into
a really small space and that and I was being

(14:02):
pushed up against the wall kind of like, oh, there's
not much room in here, and it the entity didn't
say anything except for these words, death does not exist.
That was it in a deep baritone voice, which is
probably why I thought it was God. And also, who
else in my at a six year old a six

(14:25):
year old brain is gonna you know, who else is
going to be talking to you? You know, hopefully you know,
like it's gone, and nobody else. And so I mean,
that's that's all that happened. And then the after the
words were said, the feeling of that pressure receded like
it had left the room and that was it. But
it had a huge, huge effect on me. And I

(14:48):
felt like after that point, like as I was going
through school, like by the time I was nine and
ten years old, I felt like I was being guided
towards particular books, Like things would just sort of come
into like my my sphere, and I'd be like, oh, yeah,
I think I should read that, like it felt like

(15:10):
and so I was reading all these wild books. I
remember one book was like, you know, six hundred pages
called Cosmic Consciousness, and it was in a very you know,
very complex English. You know, it was written for philosophers,
and and I'm reading this because I was sort of

(15:30):
directed to read it. So that really shaped I guess
who I was and an openness to the other. But
I also never shared this with my parents, knowing it
just wasn't something you would share, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Wow, So you and I can understand that's how most
people have to hold the secret and because of the
stigma there.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
So you live, you live life.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
You had this experience, You may have the sub couple
of times to in passing to boyfriends. Then you get
twenty nine and you have this UFO siding. So can
you talk about what happened there like set the scene for.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Us absolutely, and that was that was really I mean
it was it was. That was probably the second biggest
impactful thing that happened to me. So we were out
for a walk. I think it was around eleven o'clock
at night, and this was in Ottawa, Ontario, and it

(16:33):
was about eleven o'clock at night. Oh, I think I
said that and November. So there was I think there
was a bit of snow on the ground and it
was like an overcast night, so the you know, you
could see very well, like there was the park was
well lit, but kind of a low ceiling in the sky.

(16:54):
So we're walking along. I'm with my roommate at the
time and his best friend, and I look up and
I see this object that it's the shape of a football,
and it's about five hundred feet up and five hundred
feet away and it's got it's sort of it's a

(17:19):
dark metallic gray and it had lights going around it.
So the object was, like I described it as like
the size of maybe two seven forty sevens, one on
top of the other. So it had this real mass
to it. It was really solid. There was no doubt
about its solidity, and it had no sound whatsoever, and

(17:42):
it had these like sort of lights going around it,
like sort of little portal lights going around. So they
were about maybe a foot and a half in diameter,
but they they weren't lit up. They kind of just
glowed and they were in this pattern red, yellow, green, blue,
and it went all the way around the sort of
the perimeter of the the oval or football shaped object,

(18:05):
excuse me, and then it just disappeared. And so that
was in the western sky. It reappeared in the eastern
sky and then disappeared and then reappeared in the western sky,
and or maybe I've got it backwards, but anyways, you
see what I'm saying. It's jumping around the sky. So

(18:27):
it reappears the last time in its original spot and
then this just disappears. And I just keep walking like
I don't believe what I've seen, and I get this
strange feeling like this sort of darkness is kind of
coming down like this, like either my mind is shutting
it down or something. And then my roommate said, did

(18:50):
anybody just see that object? And I said, oh my god,
you saw that? Yeah, I mean, like that was for real,
like I just I don't even think I thought it
was real, and so I got him to describe to
me what he saw. And basically what I described to
you is what he told me, and so I was
able to kind of like, Okay, this is interesting. Was

(19:11):
that was huge? That was definitely not us, That wasn't something.
I mean, we went through all the different options that
it could be, and there's just no way it could
have been anything other than what we thought it was,
which was a non human craft of some sort.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
That is crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Was it reported by anyone else in the city by chance?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
You know?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
We never looked into it. I never reported it. I
think we just assumed. I don't know that no one
would believe us. I guess years later. I think I
did report it to Newfork and a couple of other
maybe move on as well, but that was years and
years later. So no, we never and I never. There

(19:59):
was nothing in the new We didn't see it in
the paper or anything. And I really I told some friends,
but they I think they thought I was mistaken, right,
and family, I think again they thought, you know that
I genuinely saw something, but I was mistaken about what
I've seen. My stepfather and my mom believed me because

(20:23):
my stepfather worked for the military. He used to monitor
the Russians up in Nanuvik at one of the uh
the monitoring stations up there, the air Force, sorry, the
the the military Canadian military station up there, so monitoring
the Russians for NORAD. And they used to talk about

(20:47):
three types of of craft that they would see on
their radar. So one would be commercial airlines and private
private airlines or private planes. The second type of would
be incursions from the Russians. And then the third kind
of craft he just called them bogies, and they were
the things that they didn't know what they were. So

(21:09):
he was convinced that definitely that we were being visited
by something. And he actually directed me towards a book
called Above Top Secret, which I forget who wrote that,
but that kind of I think was one of the
first books I read about UFOs Ashley.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I have to look that up because that's gonna bug
me because I know who wrote.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
That to but yeah, so do I I'm just for
blanking on his name.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, so would that being said, you know, okay, twenty
nine years old, have this citing of something huge like that,
which is crazy I'm still waiting for the day that
I get to see something that big. However, I saw
something pretty significant forty seven objects. They were like three
to five feet i'd say probably in diameter, but they
were all metallic and they all disappeared in the thin air.

(22:02):
So that moment of when you see something that you
know isn't from here and it just you're just like
in awe in that moment. How long did that last
for you? Were you talking to friend the friends that
were present, did you guys discuss that over time? And
how did that work out?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah? I mean it, it's still going on, right, I mean,
the obsession started then. I talked to friends a lot
at the very beginning for the first couple of months,
and then I stopped because I think they got sick
of a hearing about it, and the one so and

(22:42):
it's funny, the third guy that was with us missed
the whole thing, and so couldn't talk to him about it.
My roommate didn't want to talk about it. He was like,
I don't want to talk about it. He was just
flat out I don't want to talk about it. So
I kind of ran out of people to talk to
about it. So I just kind of stopped obviously talking
about it, but I'm still dreaming. I was having all

(23:04):
kinds of wild dreams, I mean through the roof crazy
wild dreams about aliens and about on religious figures, and
it was just crazy. And then I think the following summer,
I think it was the following summer, I had another sighting,

(23:25):
and that was with my boyfriend who had just come
back from Japan and we had gone camping.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Let's hold it.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Right there, that second sighting, let's say, right after this break,
we're running right into it. So sure, guys, this is
gonna be interesting. Kate Chassa sharing UFO sightings and a
lot more here with us tonight on the after hours
radio show. Make sure you guys, don't go anywhere, and
like I said, go tell a friend, Tell a friend
the show is on, bring him in so they can

(23:51):
enjoy what we talk about here tonight, and then we'll
be back right after this break. The rest of you
don't go anywhere, all right, We're clear, and we are

(24:26):
still on live with everyone so they can see and
hear us.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I was gonna.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Say the author and I'll say it again when we
come back. I think it's Timothy Good looked up. Yes, okay,
and uh it was funny you you brought a foyer
of Foyer here because David broad as the channel. He's Canadian,
he's up in BC, and uh, this is one of
the big sticking points here. Is it Foyer or is

(24:55):
it Foyer? What do you what do you prefer?

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Well?

Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think I say Foyer. But I'm French, right, so
Foyer is how it would be said, I guess if
in an English, in an English accent or whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
I'm team Foyer. I'm team Foyer. I think Dave is Foyer.
He's a four yer. Oh no, yeah, that's what I said.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I was like, no, it's not it. But then he
also says instead of.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Against, he says against, and I'm like, non, that's not how.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
You say it.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
This is against against.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, it's against, not against.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
So we we give him a hard time cause I'm
down here in California and you know he's up in Canada.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So we have this.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I hate hockey, I love hockey, I hate hockey, I
love We're kind of back and forth as far as
that goes, but just joking though. But uh yeah, so
let me say what's up? To some of the people
that just dropped in late here once again, Andrew, and
noame's trucking in the building. You showing up ever soar

(26:02):
as well. I didn't get to get to all you
guys at the beginning of the show. Bob Berkins, appreciate you,
Bob Berkins for coming in. Lloyd Hannanen, thanks for showing
up here. Okay, yep, it's CFD. We'll be talking about
that because my guy Victor Vigiani's part of that, so
we'll talk about that more super crazy movie. Geek Foy

(26:27):
your dude, four your no, it's Foyer. It's Foyer, sir.
Come on now, let's see. Earl Orbs appreciates you showing
on up. Earl Orbs says Foyer. That's right, four ya exactly.
Let's see who else is here? Thanks tomorrow Man for

(26:49):
putting Kate's info up there. Guys, make sure you go
over there and follow Kate. Let's see we have Woo
Riders d G. Thank you, thank you for coming on in, sir.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
But boo boo boo.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Who else do we have? We have flubber Lane. Hey,
flubber Lane, thanks for showing up tonight. It's going back
in the chat, guys, we might be current.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Eve, I see you Eve, Hey, Eve, thanks for thanks
for coming in.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Ben.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Jim, I saw you in there earlier as well. I
don't know if I got to say your name, but
thanks for coming in, Jim Eternity, eternal and I think
we're Oh, Bob Thorson, Bob Thorston, I saw you come
in at the buzzer.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Appreciate you coming in.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Okay, Yeah, Gory Tiger, Okay, Gory Tiger. I see you okay, yep,
now we're coming. Appreciate you. Appreciate all you guys coming
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Him up over one hundred for this show if possible.
We would love that to happen. And yeah, Mail w forty,
glad you found your glasses, mister robber Dude, I couldn't
navigate the earth. I couldn't believe I was so out
of place the other night doing the show and I
have to read the chat and I can't see the words,

(28:49):
so it was just horrible.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I never thought i'd be that guy that that depended
on glasses and you know so, but yeah, thank you,
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Fish Cheese spread. I see you out there, and I

(29:13):
bragged on you guys. I told Kate that you guys
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Speaker 2 (29:39):
Let's see.

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Speaker 2 (30:24):
Guest Amy or Kate Chasse.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Actually we are actually talking UFOs, UFO experiences, UFO research,
everything related to that. If you miss any of the
conversation here tonight, make sure you jump into archive. It's
one hundred percent free YouTube dot com. We're gonna jump
right back.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Into Kate's story.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, you were talking about we heard the first UFO
signing at twenty nine, huge, huge, UFO, like two jumbo
jets stacked on top of each other.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
That's crazy. That's a mothership.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
So you were going into talking about a second sighting
if you wouldn't mind picking up from there.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, it was at the following summer. We were at
a provincial park, the Killarney Provincial Park, which in so
it was sort of northern Ontario in the direction that
we saw the objects. There's like literally nothing there all

(31:23):
the way to the north pole basically, so it's not
like there's a base around there or anything. And it
was you know, probably ten ten thirty at night, and
we had a campfire going and there work there was
one other campfire about maybe twenty three feet away with
you know, maybe five six people sitting around that, and
it was my boyfriend and I sitting at another one,

(31:45):
and we're just playing guitar and enjoying the night and
beautiful clear night, and of course you can see the
stars like crazy. And so the people at the other camp,
at the other camp fire, they saw everything that we saw.
And so I noticed. I probably noticed at first because

(32:06):
I'm always watching the sky, right, and I see this
star just sort of appear and it's like really bright,
like Venus when it's really close. And then I see
another one and another one, and there was I think
in the end, there was about fourteen of them that
just appeared just sporadically around the sky, and then they

(32:28):
started dancing around. So I called them the dancing stars.
And they did that for about twenty minutes, and we
all watched, you know, seven, eight, nine of us were
watching this for about twenty minutes, and then one by
one they just slowly disappeared. That's all that happened. I mean,
that's all. But it it doesn't sound like much, but

(32:51):
it blows your mind because stars don't do that right,
and they don't dance around like that, and we're like,
and it's just perplexing. It's like, what was that because
it's not like the sighting I had earlier that year
in November. It's something completely different. I mean, now I
might have the words for it and call them maybe

(33:13):
they were orbs. I don't know, but they to us
they just look like stars, but they didn't behave like stars.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And so again reaction to that, like, what's everyone's reaction immediately?
Did you feel extraterrestrial, not of this earth? Or were
you wondering for a while just trying to figure out.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
What it was or we spent Yeah, we definitely all
talked about it, and I think we all sort of
concluded that it was something maybe extraterrestrial, but it's so inconclusive, right, so,
but it's definite. We definitely knew it was not normal.
This is not normal for a star to do that.

(33:53):
We saw something special, And to this day, I was
actually just doing a meditation the night last night and
I sort of had that memory flashback and it just
it brings this really just sort of warm feeling back
to me when I see it. It was so beautiful

(34:15):
and it felt like such a gift. I mean, we
don't know if it was a gift, but it felt
like that, just like the first setting I had felt
like a demonstration, and it took me a while to
come to that conclusion. It wasn't like, oh, look, we
just had a demonstration. I mean though that terminology, even
that took a while to formulate. And I remember actually

(34:39):
meeting Victor Virgianna and Victor Virgiani, who I'm involved with
now with the Canadians for Disclosure back in you know,
maybe ten years after that sighting and telling him about it,
and just you know, even then, still trying to decipher,

(35:04):
like what's going on? Why are they here? And what
was that was? It felt like a you know at
that point saying it felt like a demonstration, but why
you know, like it it was so early days at
that Like now we have the terminology for and we
have you know, people writing about stuff like that, and
you can say, oh, yeah, it's a demonstration, it's to

(35:24):
help raise your consciousness and blah blah blah, you know,
but back then we didn't have that.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, a lot of jargon and type words in our
community to describe that makes it. And I thought about it,
and I shouldn't say this, but I'm gonna say it
because if somebody beats me to it, oh well, wanted
to do a book that kind of translates those sorts
of terms to just the average person. Because people coming
in tonight they never.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Looked at the UFO stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
They're like, consciousness, they don't know any of these terms.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
You're like, what if?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
So if you had something to translate, that would probably
be a good gateway for people that were coming in.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I was reading through your bio and it said that
you have witnessed eight distinct type of craft.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
So I want to talk.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
About that because there's as you know, Skywatcher out there,
the team Skywatcher, and they actually have done something similar
to that, which I think is key. It's like we
should know, Okay, there's x amount of different craft and
then that way you can kind of put things under
each one as far as behaviors to get closer to

(36:29):
getting answers. Have you looked at their list and do
the eight craft that you came up with do they
align with the ones that they listed at Skywatcher.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, I did look at their list. The disc I've
seen a disc. I don't know if I I mean, yeah,
I don't know if I can't remember the rest of them,
but I do remember thinking, okay, yeah, I've seen that one.
They seem to see a lot of stuff. Oh, Manta
ray shaped, I think they mentioned that, but they seem

(37:04):
to see a lot of like orb like objects or
objects that like the one that with the tentacles. There
we go. So I've seen, well, I've seen, Yeah, there's
the manta ray, the my oval shaped football shape thing
could maybe be an egg shaped, and then the the

(37:30):
tic tac. I've seen a what I call the tubular
shaped objects, So that is I've heard the tic tac
described in different ways. The tubular object that I saw
was at least, at the very least fifty feet in length,
if not longer. Yeah, so I kind of got the

(37:52):
idea that tic TACs were a little shorter, but I've
seemed to hear different takes on that.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
The fifties they talked about flying buttane tanks and those
are huge.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
So let me ask you this the egg shape one,
I'm the football shape that.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
You talk about.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
What could you describe more about what that looked like,
because that's sort of like where my siding falls into
that short of oblong shape. What did you observe on that, like,
did you get any information on that or how would
you describe that particular.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Type of craft.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, that that seemed to be. I mean, I don't
know how how long it's like the size of it,
but it was quite massive. Like I said, like, how
long is this seven forty seven? It just oh wow, okay,
it was huge. So you know, what is that fifty
sixty feet in length?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah? Probably, yeah, somewhere in there.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Huge maybe more. And so if it was, let's say,
if it's sixty feet in length and then maybe about
forty feet high, so like like a shape like a
football basically what you you know, American football, Canadian football.
And it was definitely metallic. It had it was like

(39:11):
a metallic gray color. And then the colors that the
the like the little portals, the colored portals about a
foot and a half to two feet in diameter. They
were very muted, like it's they weren't emanating light. They
were just you could see light, you could see the color,

(39:31):
but it's like it had a haze over the over
the light. And they went around in that pattern red, yellow, green, blue.
And I've never actually heard anybody describe this particular craft.
And that's the weird thing I find about a lot
of the sightings is almost everyone is different. So like
either there's a lot of people visiting us, a lot

(39:52):
of different types of people, or or they're like us
with our cars. You know, we have you know how
many brands of cars are there, and then within each brand,
you know, you've got fifteen models. Like maybe this is
the same way about craft, or maybe it's all different civilizations.
Hard to know.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Now, there's definitely I want to say that Roger Murray,
one of our viewers, talked about Kentucky or Hopkinsville, Goblin.
I think that sighting kind of matches the craft you
describe with the blinking light, flashing lights going around it,
and I know there's a couple more that are exactly
as you describe that craft when you think about the

(40:32):
you know, when you look at the list that Skywatcher
has put together, because I was just thinking, I was
looking around and I'm like, Okay, it seems like they
have pretty much all of the types of shapes that
I've heard mentioned when you compare them to the ones
that you have looked at. Are there any missing from
their list is that you could point to? Because I

(40:54):
know they've had the morphine, the sort of morphing ones.
I don't know if that's covered on Skywatcher's list. But
have you seen anything strange that isn't listed on their list?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Well, they don't seem to have a sphere on there.
So I've seen a four foot in diameter metallic sphere,
and then I've also seen a boomerang shaped object, a
small boomerang. So let's say each wing of the boomerang
is about maybe thirty feet in length.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Okay, okay, And since you were older, you know this
is your second sighting and then third fourth going forward?
Are these ones that you ended up reporting to an
agency like New Fork or movefon, you.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Know, apart from the one the football shape? No, And
so the two sightings I had in ninety two and
ninety three. After that, I didn't have sightings until twenty
twenty two. And so by twenty twenty two and twenty
twenty three, where the rest of the six others they

(42:05):
At that time, I think there were so many people
having sightings I didn't bother reporting it, okay, and i've
and just when I reported the football, I just found
it's like I said, the report in and that was it.
So you know, maybe it's maybe it's worth reporting to

(42:27):
gather data. But I think unless we have one reporting site,
I mean, how good is that data going to be
if it's if.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
You know, spar style.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, that that makes sense, And that's one of the
keys that we should realize in this community is that
we kind of all need to be together for this
movement to work anyways, and we should probably have a
central database that's accessible to us.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
All that way we're able.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
And that's why I brought up Scott Watcher because I
kind of feel like when I'm looking at agencies out there,
it feels like they're at least trying to do that
by putting up saying Okay, hey, we've looked at all
these different incidents and here's the shapes that we have been.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Able to come up to.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I'm sure you can add or remove from the list,
but it at least gives everyone a central starting point
to focus on. And then if we add data underneath
each one of those categories, I think that builds our
centralized data list. So hopefully they keep the data open
to the public for one, which is what we know.
Some of these groups have signed NDA's and kind of

(43:30):
closed their data off to us. Particular group with doesn't
help the effort doesn't help what it is that we're
trying to do. Have you had in any of your
sightings any sort of interaction or you know, any idea
of what might be in the craft because my sighting

(43:51):
and anything else I've done, I haven't had any like
face to face extraterrestrial contact or anything like that. Have
you had anything close to that outside of the consciousness incident, I.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Mean related directly to the craft. No, But in nineteen
ninety seven, I did encounter a light being in my
house at three in the morning.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
So yeah, that that was a yeah, that was quite
quite the experience as well, and very strange too. So
three o'clock in the morning, I get up and I
live in Toronto at the time, and so it's you know,
like I didn't turn any lights on because it's bright

(44:39):
from the city lights and stuff. And I had a long,
long hallway from my bedroom to the bathroom, so I
sort of got out of bed, walked down the long
hallway in the dark, but the light from the city
illuminating the way. I get into the bathroom, and I
turn on the light, go to the washroom, and then

(45:00):
when I turn off the light, there's a being standing
in front of me, and it's the being is made
of light like it's it's about five foot ten. It
seems to be the shape of a male. And the
light that it's emanating from this shape is like bright,
like a star almost. It was beautiful, but also in

(45:26):
a way just completely shocking. So when I turn off
the light and see this being standing there, I didn't
actually experience any fear or anything, but I literally just
collapsed to the ground and when I looked up again,
the being was gone. And so the fact that I
actually collapse to the ground is the one sort of

(45:49):
tangible thing about that sighting. I'm like, there's no way
I would fall down in the middle of the night
because I see something like that. That is just that.
That was the proof for me, because half of this
half of the issue is like you don't believe your
own eyes, and then you think, who the hell is
going to believe me? And so I never told anybody

(46:10):
about that until probably being in the Experiencer group is
probably the first time I was I told that story,
but it definitely stayed with me. I mean, it's it
blows your mind. I mean a being, first of all,
being just materializing in your in your house is just

(46:31):
crazy to begin with. But a being made of light,
I mean it, you know, it kind of reminded me
of the beings from Cocoon, which I had seen that
movie years before. Yeah, so I got thought, Wow, did
I see something like that? But it's never happened again,
and I don't know why it happened and why I

(46:52):
saw it, but yeah, it was pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Wow, you brought me back to Cocoon. Wow, and that
those were light beings now to think about it, because
I'm always trying to visualize what these light beings would
look like. And that's perfect, the ones from Cocoon. That
makes total sense. And yeah, just the materializing in your
house and that we hear a lot of stories about

(47:16):
these beings, whether they're light beings, grays or other type
of extraterrestrials. They can just pop up in your house,
right in front of you in your bedroom at night.
And that's the thing that it frightens me because I
have not had that direct face to face.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Like you did.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
And I'm just dreading the day because it feels like
it could happen any moment sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
What's interesting, though, is I actually didn't experience fear, but
my body did collapse, and I don't know if it
was necessarily from fear. I think it's it's a shock
beyond anything that you would normally have a shock over, right,
Like I mean, it's it's it's it's shocking to the

(48:05):
point where it completely disarms you, you know. I mean
someone actually suggested to me that maybe the being had
done that to me, but I don't think so. I
think it was just a human or a human animal
biological response, just like what collapse, you know.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
That.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Well, I don't think so. No, no, no. And I
don't have any experience or memory of being abducted. Really,
I do have one. I had one dream shortly after
my sighting in ninety two where I was introduced to

(48:51):
like a woman. We were in this large room and
a woman was walking towards me with a you know,
like a four year old girl maybe five year old girl,
holding her hand and walking towards me. And when I
look down at the girl and I and I thought, oh,
she's got ridges on her forehead, and she kind of

(49:15):
looked like me. She had brown hair, brown eyes, but
she had these ridges. And then I looked up to
the mom and she was full on alien like ridges
and you know, like the slightly larger eyes, not totally elongated,
but slightly larger and definitely alien looking. And again in
that dream when I saw the mother, I again collapse

(49:37):
to the floor. So this seems to be a thing
with me. If I freak out, I'm just gonna collapse
to the floor.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Reminds me of those if you've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Those goats, that fainting goats.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, those are hilarious to me. Oh my god. Okay, yeah,
but it okay?

Speaker 1 (49:54):
So or did you give this feeling because it sounds
like maybe hybridization. Is that what you're thinking at that point?

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I mean that that was a dream. Like at the
time I attributed to you know, just having nightmares because
I saw a spaceship. I still wasn't, you know, thinking,
oh I've had you know, I was abducted. I mean,
I maybe I was. I have no idea, I have

(50:22):
no recollection of that. That's the only hint that I
have of anything like that is a dream.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Any regression Have you thought about doing regression?

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I did a regression and this wasn't this was before
my There wasn't no, no, it was after my sighting.
That's right, it was not in ninety four, I think
it was. I did a regression for past lives, but
it didn't quite turn out the way the hypnotherapist she

(50:56):
was a psychologist and who was learning hypnotherapy, and it
didn't quite work work out the way she thought it
would because I didn't go into a past life I am.
So she regressed me back. You know. They they take
you further and further back.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
You know. So you're two.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Years old and now now you're you know, a year old,
six months Okay, now you're at the point of your birth,
and you picture yourself and you see yourself in the womb,
and then you go further back before your conception, and
that's when she wants you to start describing what you see.

(51:35):
So I start describing. I'm standing in a in a
tube and and I'm in a I'm in this tube
that has a window on the top part, but the
rest it's like a tube that's all around my body.
And I'm just standing there, and but halfway up there's
a window so I can see out, and I'm looking out.

(51:56):
I'm in a deep cavern underneath the ground, and it's
a large large cavern kind of like a red colored
stone that's been carved out from the from underneath. And
then the tube starts to spin and I start to rise,
and the tube rises up into my backyard of where

(52:20):
I where I grew up basically, So she's like, what
and when I woke up from that or you know,
came too from that, which that whole thing took two hours,
but it seemed like five minutes, right, It didn't take
long to describe that, and that took two hours, So

(52:41):
it was weird. It was a weird feeling waking up
from that. But also I'm like, what the hell? And
I think so she was just like, WHOA, this is weird.
She had no idea what it was, and neither do I,
and so very strange.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Is she one that specializes in regression therapy.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Or was it she was new at it? She was
I think she was a psychologist and she was training
to do hypnotherapy and she was towards the ends of
her training, but she was doing I think it was
more for fun, like past life regression. So you know,
she's expected me to say, you know, I wake up
and I'm Cleopatra or something, you know, or I'm a

(53:24):
you know some you know living in the Middle Ages
or something, but this is what comes out of my
mouth type thing, and I don't know. I can't like,
I can't tell you what that means. I have no idea,
and I'll.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Tell you it's just you hear some people to say,
you know, you have to be careful who you have,
regress you and make sure this person knows this or
knows that. So that's why I haven't done it, because
I think if I do it, probably going to find
out that maybe I have been abducted, because I'm under
this theory that most people probably have had some sort
of experience and just don't recall it. But we're gonna

(53:57):
go ahead and talk about that. On the other side
of say, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
We are back with our guest Kate Chatsay, UFO Researcher,
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UFO and alien stuff here tonight. We'll get in some
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Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Here we go, So.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Let me ask you this, Kate. So underneath the oceans,
there's craft going in and out. There's things called USO's.
Lou Elisondo has made a statement I was within the
last year or so that he saw something huge passed
by Darrel Lock and actually I'm going to have that

(01:00:53):
we see I have that clip.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Here, we go ahead and play it SoundBite here for
the radio audience. Here we go.

Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
There is a video, high resolution video of I can't
say what platform was taken from. I can't say where
it was taken from. But an object that you know,
do you know how large a an offshore shore oil
derek is? They're huge, right, They're like almost like a
small city, right, They're like one city block.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
They're huge. They're enormous things.

Speaker 10 (01:01:23):
There is a video that shows one of these objects
underwater that goes by. The speed was calculated between four
hundred and fifteen five hundred and fifty knots underwater and
it was bigger than the offshore dereck that it was passing.
Because you could see in the video of the offshore
derek and you could see this thing zip.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Right by it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Jesus, So something is bigger than an oil dairy underwater
moving at a super high rate of speed. What do
you think is going on down there? What do you
think the purpose of extraterrestrials going under the ocean is?
If you had to guess, I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Mean, if I had to guess, I'd say they have
a base, maybe many bases. Lou seems to think and
a lot of those government people seem to think that
these people, these whatever they are, aliens or whatever, have
been here for a really long time. So either they've
always been here and maybe they were here on Earth

(01:02:27):
even before we became intelligent, let's say, or they were
extraterrestrial and came here a long time ago and settled here,
or they're relatively new and they're extraterrestrial and they've built
bases and so on, knowing that we're advancing and I

(01:02:50):
don't know, it sounds like it seems like there's something,
there's a presence here, and they they're here on at
least a semi permit basis. I really do believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Okay, so semi permanent basis agreed, is probably basis underneath there?
What do you feel do you feel like there is
a reason to be a be alert as far as
on the defense, or do you feel like it's leaven
light They're just here to help us out and guide.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Us to the promised land.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
I think we need more data. The seems like the
people or the craft that I've seen have all seemed
pretty cool, like very like a lot of the craft
I've seen are are white, like they have that beautiful,

(01:03:49):
like really pearly white exterior. I don't know, do something
exceptionally high tech obviously, so somehow it then is smooth,
very smooth surfaces. Somehow to me that that seems like

(01:04:15):
something benevolent. Maybe it's crazy, And I mean I've I've
had I've not experienced really any fear with any of
these craft. The only time I've experienced fear with the
phenomena has been in with some really horrible dreams of

(01:04:35):
really dark entities. But other than that, which they could
just be nightmares. Right, So, so far, my my encounters
have been benevolent. I haven't, as far as I know,
haven't been abducted, but that's not doesn't seem to be
the case for everybody, and so I guess I'm on
the mind that we're being visited by all of the above.

(01:05:00):
There seems to be maybe there's multi dimensionals, maybe there's
there's people that have been here a very long time,
maybe even from this planet. There are extraterrestrials. There does
seem to be non corporeal light type beings or or
completely non corporeal beings. So I think it's all of

(01:05:21):
the above. And I don't think. You know, you live
in a big city, you lock your doors, you're careful
where you what neighborhood you walk in at night. Maybe
if you're a woman, maybe you buddy up with somebody.
I mean, you're careful, right, So it's a big universe
out there. I think I think we need to be

(01:05:41):
cautious and we need more data. We need to know,
we need more information. I mean, we're all just guessing
for the most part. And we've got the government telling
us mixed stories and and other people and then channelers
telling us things, and but who do we believe? And
it's I hate that it's all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
You're right, You're right, channel is telling us one thing,
the government purposely misdirecting us. And you know, do you
ever see a moment where any government on the face
of Earth admits that this is going on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
I don't think they're going to have any choice. I
think there's good to to come a time when they're
just going to have to deal with it. I think
it's going to become so obvious and and I mean
I think I think the government is already working on
like a sort of a controlled disclosure, and I kind

(01:06:42):
of agree with it to a certain degree. Like, I
think there's a lot of people that this is going
to basically destroy their world worldview. It's really going to
mess them up. And I think people in the UFO community, yeah,
we're we're fairly comfortable with the idea, but I think
there's a lot of the world I don't know if

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they are. So I think a controlled disclosure is a
good idea. And you know that the stock market is
so volatile already, I mean, it just doesn't you know,
if we had an economic collapse, that's not going to
help anybody. So I think a very controlled disclosure would

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be a good thing. I just think they need to
move it along a bit, and they need to start
including like really opening it up to scientists and researchers
so that they can really start. I mean, like you say,
we need a database, We need to categorize them. We
need to figure out are they friendly, are some friendly?

(01:07:47):
Do we have treaties? Did we make a treaty with
the right group. Maybe we need to change, you know,
change who we're closing up to, Like we just don't
we don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
And and that was that one of the main things
too write because outside of the government and things that
we think that they may be able to tell us
about the phenomena from what they've learned. We lean on
channelers to be the ones to kind of deliver the
extraterrestrial message. But as I talk I talked to a

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good friend Read Somers as his own channel, emerging you
guys to check it out, but Read, you know, it
feels like we should look at what we know to
kind of determine if it's you know, if this presence
is something to be worried about or not. And you know,
there's a lot of things, as I talked to a
guest last night, that points to these things doing things

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to us, making us disappear in some cases, maybe even
unliving us. So it's a situation where you know, if
we find out if it's bad. If it's that bad,
then the government allows us to find out the day
that they want to you know, land and do whatever
they're going to do to us here on earth, then

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that doesn't really help. And then if we if we
go with their controlled disclosure, dislow drip disclosure, the only
reason they are you know, even wanting to address it
is because they want to make sure they have power
on the other side of disclosure. And do we really
want this same group that has been keeping this a

(01:09:25):
secret from us and exposing the people to all these
different things to be the ones to also head up
the effort to move forward past disclosure. Do you think
this government not just are you know, Canadian or the
United States, but just global government, any government out there
should be able to be in that driver's seat when

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it comes to figuring out what we're going to do
on the other side of disclosure.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Well, it's a good question, because I mean, what if
they they whoever's out there, tries to start first contact
with the Chinese or the Russians, they might not choose
America to make for And that's I think in a
way we don't have I mean, people don't like the

(01:10:13):
idea of a world government, but we need somebody who
represents all of us. But there is nobody that does that,
you know, So who's like, do we really want I mean,
I want to get political here, but do we really
want Donald Trump making first contact? Maybe maybe not. You know,
it depends on what side you're on, So that's difficult.

(01:10:36):
So maybe it needs to be a group of I mean,
it makes sense to have a group of people maybe
comprised of maybe some religious some you know, experience, or
some scientists, some politicians, a mixture of people, philosophers, a
small group you know, maybe twenty people representative of people

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around the world, and that committee makes first contact.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
But I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
You know, we don't know, like maybe there's already been
first contact. Maybe we have treaties. Maybe, I mean I
just watched Tony Rodriggs on Fate to Black and he's
talking about this twenty and back, and so maybe we
have this massive space program. We're already traveling the stars.
So it's just so it goes from you know, there's

(01:11:30):
nothing going on to like we're traveling the stars, I mean,
and like there's no in between, Like we need to
get all that in between stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, as you said, and it
picked any global leader, a dictator from around the globe. Yeah,
I don't necessarily think that I want one of those
guys to be in the middle of deciding what happens
to humanity. And that's what bothers me about the treaty situation,
because you know, I've always felt like, okay, let's just

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say the whole you know, eisenhowerd thing happened, and there
was some sort of goal that was supposed to be
met by human beings by a certain deadline, and we
we missed the deadline, and we you know, they're like, hey,
get rid of all the nuclear weapons, do it by
this year, and then we'll help you do X, Y

(01:12:23):
and z. But you know, these these powers that be
are not going to give up nuclear weapons. It's just
not going to happen. So it's like, you know, is
it even fair for those people to be the ones
that that have that conversation on behalf of humanity?

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Or I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I think it should be a group comprised of just
regular individuals, some theologians and you know, and it needs
to be people that we all agree on this humanity.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
But how do we even get to that moment? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Because we need everyone together, or we need a moment
where everyone is focused on the same thing so that
we can have that conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
How do we get there?

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Because that's really what I'm here to do, is to
try to find a way to get to exactly where
you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
What do you I mean, I think we can get there,
but we need to want to get there. I mean,
we're all focused on Epstein right now, right like I mean,
everybody can focus on those those Epstein files. The whole
world is focused on that, so that that's possible to
focus on something. So maybe how so how do we
get everybody to shift their focus from that to yeah,

(01:13:38):
you know the subject?

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
I thought about that because as just as you said,
and we're thinking on the same page here, because I've
said this before, that there needs to be a moment
where the whole world is able to pay attention to
one thing. We had that during COVID for a minute
where the whole world was focused on this one thing.
That would have been the perfect time to have the conversation.

(01:14:02):
Is like, Okay, that passes, So it's like, will we
ever get another moment like that where the world is
paying attention. And then we had the new Jersey drone
situation back last December. The whole world is looking at this.
It's the moment where we could step in or somebody
can step in and have the UFO conversation, and it
didn't happen, and you just keep wondering, is there gonna

(01:14:24):
be another moment where we have the world's attention? And
as you said, right now, there's this whole political thing
going on with the Epstein thing, and it is a
moment where we're all focused so we know we can
do it is just bait and switch, So we could
have that actual conversation, and it's like who would be
the one to actually, you know, move that forward. And

(01:14:45):
that's where I'm at. That's where I'm still trying to
figure out, like who would be that group? Would it
be influencers, like some of the top influencers on social media?
Would it be, Like who would it actually be? Because
I think all the energy that that a lot of people,
because I don't include myself in this group that are
putting into Congress, forming these committees and going into these

(01:15:09):
gifts and coming out with the answers. It's just a
distraction and a waste of time. And it's like that
same energy could be put towards the person, someone or
a group of people that would actually make a difference
in this That's where I'm at, and that's where I'm
trying to figure out who would that be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean those I think, I think everything
that's going on with Congress and you know what Ross
Cultart's doing with with his uh whatever his show is,
what's it called there? Yeah, not that well No One
Reality Check, and and you know everybody in Washington pushing

(01:15:50):
this forward, and and then with Congress and you've got
you know, Lou and Danny she and that whole group.
I think that's that's really important. I mean it seems like,
you know, the the topic is slowly becoming more mainstream.
It's really it has moved, It has shifted since twenty seventeen,

(01:16:13):
there has been a major shift. We're just I think
we want it fast, right, we want like I'm like,
I'm past the disclosure. I want contact, right. I think
I want contact anyways, assuming they're good. But I do
think maybe the phenomenon itself has in some ways control

(01:16:37):
of it's disclosing itself. So it's not showing us, you know,
it's showing individuals, but it's not doing a mass sighting
like a super Bowl or something, which if it ever did,
then you that would be it. All eyes would turn
to that subject. And maybe there'll be moment when that happens.

(01:17:01):
But when that moment happens, the shit will hit the fan, right.
I mean, if there was a major sighting at the
super Bowl where it was undisputable, it was a film
by many different news, news people, news stations, that's it.
I mean, everything will change and it will be probably

(01:17:22):
close to catastrophic. It will change everything.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
I want that. I want to change and I want disclosure,
but I don't want chaos either. So it's got to
happen in a in a very particular way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
That's that's really the conundrum too. Yes, that it's going
to be and I gotta tell you, I'm team catastrophic disclosure,
and I want it to happen now and I want
to wake up tomorrow. And that moment is there where
the UFO they're just sitting there and they're just saying, hey,
we're here, and I feel like, and I always say
this to people that I think there have been moments

(01:18:04):
like if we were to look at the New New
Jersey Drnale situation, I just feel like if that was anomalist,
if that was et you know, orchestrating that, then those
are moments where they're trying to say, hey, we're here,
guys are ready to have this conversation. And they probably
wouldn't land physically on the White House lawn because look

(01:18:24):
at us, we're crazy and we'll do all types of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Who would get out of craft and try to come
shake hands?

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Right, So I think that first step is going to
be that New Jersey drune where we're just sitting over
your city for two months, We're here every day like clockwork,
We're not going anywhere, and we were ready to sit
down and have this talk. And I just I always
wonder if that was anomalists, is that an opportunity loss
where they're trying to do it and we're just not
getting a message. We're not you know, we don't have

(01:18:52):
that group that we were talking about earlier assembled it
has a master has a plan to kind of interject
and reach out and make that contact moment. I think
that's probably one of the problems that we're running to.
It's like, how do you accept or receive that want
for contact from them? If they're out there?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
How do you reach out?

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
What's that first thing that you do? And I think
that's kind of where we should start figuring things out,
because I think we've been handed numerous occasions where they
may have tried to reach out and get that going,
and it's like, we can't keep ignoring it forever. We
have to have some sort of plan to initiate that contact.

(01:19:33):
And I don't know, you know, I've talked about, you know,
the same way they have NOSCA lines and we had,
you know, ancient humans drawing things on the ground for
obviously something that's up in the sky, high in the sky,
so it would assume you would assume that that was
an attempt to contact extraterrestrial Why not do that today?

(01:19:54):
Put a video screen on the ground showing their craft
or showing what we think they look like. If they're
seeing that, then they understand, hey, they're trying to reach
out or they're trying to acknowledge our presence, and maybe
we should take that next step and that But that's
just thinking right, who can implement it?

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Well, I mean they could be they whoever's out there,
they could be already trying to bring about this contact.
But there's I think certain things you'd want to have
in place. First of all, you'd want to have that
stock market stabilized because right now that rules our world, right,

(01:20:35):
like the way the money that money flows and the
exchange and so on. All of that rules how life
continues on earth right unfortunately, So that would be the
first thing I'd take control of is or at least
provide a human government with the ability to stabilize that

(01:21:00):
market no matter what happens. And if you notice, despite
all the crap that's going on in the world right now,
that market has really maintained its levels. I mean it's
dropped and dipped here and there, but it's back up
to its levels. So something is stabilizing that market despite
the chaos that's going on. Second thing is when you

(01:21:23):
introduce a new culture to a more primitive culture, I
mean there's anoc inoculation, like, so what kind of diseases
do they carry or do we carry that can infect them?
So that's probably a concern. So there's you know, maybe
there's they're already taking steps towards exposing themselves and and

(01:21:50):
and you know, making contact. So you know the slow
drip recently, the all the films and that preparatory work
that happened the last forty fifty years, maybe this is
all leading up to a moment where they sort of

(01:22:10):
announced themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Do you think you really think that this economic model,
this stock market can maintain itself through disclosure. I just
feel like, truthfully, I feel like that has to actually
go away. The value of the dollar has to disappear
in order for us to kind of redo what it is,
you know, the path that we're setting as human beings,

(01:22:33):
and we have to figure out some other way of
doing business or doing things. So truthfully, I feel like
when disclosure hits, whether it's through slow drip or catastrophic disclosure,
I think the stock market is a foregone thought. We
wouldn't worry about the dollar anymore. And if you really
think about it, the dollar is really no more valuable

(01:22:53):
in reality than monopoly money. It's a piece of paper,
and you know, economic disparity across the globe puts us
in a situation where we can't ever come together. So
it's like it keeps us separate and segregated, which is
totally against the enlightenment and humanity. So I think it
has to give you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
So with that being said, we're actually going into our
last break of the night here, and I do want
to get into you know, Canadians for disclosure because I
talked to Victor about this and we have a lot
of things obviously we've done here in the United States
to move the needle forward as far as having conversations
and always say, let that happen. I don't mind that

(01:23:39):
it does. I think it would be cherry on top
if governments ever do disclose something. And you guys are
at the beginning stages of that. So I'd like to
talk about that when we come back from the break. Guys,
don't go anywhere. Last break with our guest here, Kate
Chassey on space Stout Radio, the After Hours radio show.
We will see you right back. All right, we are clear,

(01:24:28):
we are clear. We got five minutes. We're still live.
If you have anything you need to do, Kate, this
would be time to do it for the chat. This
is question time, So if we can get the questions
coming in all caps. I'll go ahead and tag them.
I know we have a few.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
That I caught earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I may have missed some, so if I did, please
repost those questions into the chat and questions and also opinions.
Let's open it up to opinions too, because I'd love
to hear some of your opinions on what we've talked
about here tonight. Also for our three, we'll do the

(01:25:10):
tell Steve Stockton tells un Told Mister person Mysteries. We'll
do the UFO and weird News, and then I think
I'm gonna touch on the Hopkinsville Goblin. We'll go ahead
and have a conversation about that. Guys, so make sure
you don't go anywhere. I will be here with you
for our three, And let's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
See Juliana McGill.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
There are theories that our timeline has been messed with
certain unexplained storms before certain epic battles. Yeah, we talked
about that last night. The list goes on missing characters
of cereal boxes, you know, on the Mandela effect. Yeah, definitely,

(01:26:02):
let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Earl Orbs. What a great chat.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Happy to be here, Yes, yes, chat is awesome. These
these guys keep you on you Too's here, let's see
I can agree with this on some level of dead fish.
If polygraphs didn't work, the government wouldn't rely on them
like they do. Yeah, it's not admissible, but they're they've

(01:26:29):
genuine generally have been pretty right on. Julian and I
have two theories. Entities are selfish or waiting. We're just
stuck here in the middle, spinning around and around like
a record.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Baby. I can agree to ALIANA, let's see real orbs,
big changes b I G. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
It's wild because we're gonna have to you know, and
it's like I want catastrophic disclosure, but I know that's
gonna That means we're gonna go through a rough patch,
a very very very very rough patch before we figure
it out and are able to kind of restructure.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
It's scary. It's very scary to think about.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
You think about I think you said Dune earlier, Mad Max,
like this dystopian sort of type of world where you know,
I don't know, it's it's it's scary to think about.
But it's the thing is is that when you're restructuring
or rebuilding something like humanity in the in the path
of humanity sometimes, you got it. You have to go

(01:27:44):
through moments like that. Historically it says that we we've
been through moments like that and you will kind of
have to do it again modern day. It's crazy to
think about. See Polly, did you step in? I do
see you, Polly Rodiman, Polly, thanks for coming on in.

(01:28:06):
Beeno from OZ. Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Kevin Kennedy t and my appreciate you coming in. Okay,
I see your question. Jaquetta got it. I'll save that
comment there, Juliana.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yes, could be possible. Flast six. I mean it could
be this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
I believe there will be people stilling TVs even if
the power cred is forever gone. Humans are irrational, we'll
worry about our quote things to the bloody end. I
can agree, man, And it's sad. The thing is is
that I'd rather do it, or deal with it and
go through it instead of leaving it for my great grandchildren,
my grandchildren, all of them, because someone's gonna have to

(01:29:06):
deal with it at some point, so let it be
me and let it be us currently so we could
kind of, you know, set the stage for our descendants
and get give hand them over a better situation than
what we're dealing with here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
All right, I got this year theories that are okay, yeah,
I read that. Mm hmm. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
We got about thirty seconds guys coming back from break, Okay,

(01:30:11):
five seconds here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
All right, everyone, welcome back to Face our radio, the
after hours radio show. We are on the back half
of our number two.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
And he said, about twenty minutes left of our guest here,
Kate chest say, as we are talking UFOs, UFO experiences,
where is the disclosure going to take a catastrotary disclosure?
Closure disclosure four yer for four year, whichever one you
want to choose. Here, as we get right back into
the conversation and we'll start off with the audience question here.

(01:30:46):
I know we had Carrie Doyle asking Kate when you
saw these UFOs, did you feel anything spiritual or that
they were trying to communicate with you?

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
No, not not right away. But I did have a
lot of spiritual dreams and I still continue to have them,
and it's it's made me really get into meditation. I've
been doing a lot of the Monroe Meditations and another

(01:31:26):
type of meditation done by it's called triad mind by
one of the sound engineers from Monroe, and that is
really sort of so I'm sort of starting to delve
into that that consciousness side of things, but that's I
think more just trying to get to the bottom of

(01:31:49):
what's going on and any way possible. Right, So, for
the most part, I haven't felt direct spiritual feeling, Like
when I saw that light being, it was more it
wasn't a spiritual feeling at first, you know, Like now
I look back on it and I think, wow, that

(01:32:10):
was pretty cool, and and you know, it's you know,
maybe that that is some sort of angelic type being
or something that sort of thing. But no, most of
my spirituality I think comes more directly from that first

(01:32:31):
experience when I was six, and then many of the
dreams that I've had, and then now recently a lot
of the experiences I've had in meditation or you know,
right upon wakening, when you're in that very liminal state,
I'll experience things, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
The Jaketa is asking what do you think about the
Book of Enoch being added back into the Bible and
admitting the quote watchers being various aliens.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Mm hmm, yeah, Like I I knew about the book
of Enoch and was sort of really into it back
probably back in the late nineties and stuff. But yeah,
I really wonder about the Watchers. I really, you know,
and and I people talk about so that the Aliens

(01:33:25):
are the the angels from the Bible, but it's possible
that there is some sort of like angelic realm out there,
or you know, like a sort of a hierarchy of
non corporeal beings that that you know, create our world,

(01:33:47):
maintain our world kind of like you know, like the
d MT elves and so on. It's like maybe they're
there's elementals, like they talk about the Elohim being sort
of like a they. Some people refer them as physical,
as a physical race. Others refer to them as like
sort of elementals sort of maintaining the integrity of our

(01:34:08):
world or the physical world in general. So I find
that that whole Book of Enoch. I really want to
read it again. And because it's been the years and
I don't remember a lot of it, because the Watchers
are definitely very intriguing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Yeah, I need to do exactly the same. And thanks
for the awesome super chat. The dead Man disclosure will
not come from the government. It will come from we
the people. That is true if we can keep ourselves
together and not be so segregated. Because even in this community,
we all want to get to the truth, but there's
still a lot of segregation even within our own communities.

(01:34:47):
So I'm with you, though, it definitely will come from
we the people. Let's see, we had a question from
Earl Orbes who said, Kate, what color were the lights
in the football shaped craft?

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
I missed it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
If you did say, yeah, they were red, yellow, green,
blue in that order, and they didn't flash, they just
stayed steady in those colors.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
And how would you describe the Because I had a
I was on Highway one oh one in California.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Driving at night.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
It was about eight thirty at night coming back here
to Bakersfield, and you kind of have to cross through
this little mountain path. As I'm getting off the freeway
in Salinas, I had this pretty huge sunroof and I
look up or I look up either to the right,
and I see this what looks like almost like a
quad copper drone coming down ascending down to my vehicle.

(01:35:44):
As I'm getting off the freeway, I'm going seventy miles
an hour and it had lights on each corner, and
the lights were inside of a caseinge that was sort
of I describe it like it looked like a sea
orchin urchin, but just are still clear. And the light
inside didn't shine, it glowed. It had like an inner glow.

(01:36:06):
Is that the same sort of thing you experienced with
that craft? Those lights not illuminating as far as but
they were glowing inner glow.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Kind of an inner glow. Yeah. Yeah, and it kind
of muted, muted, like there was something like there's a
film over it or something.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they wouldn't illuminate a room if
they were in a room they had ye, no, see
that That's what I've always try to explain that to people.
They never understand. But let me see here, okay, and
I think okay. We had a couple of comments here,
Joanne McGill. The story is now nuclear, the souls being deactivated,

(01:36:47):
so perhaps intervention is their question mark. But in the meantime,
just be good to one another and everything negative say,
that's not our timeline.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Austin statement.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
We do agree with you there, Juliana McGill dropping knowledge
as well. Let's see, I think always been there, Okay,
all right, so we got that one. So let me
shift in a little bit into the Canadians for Disclosure.
You know, you guys are at the beginning stages. It's

(01:37:21):
like looking at us back here in the United States,
back in twenty eighteen, when it was just a dream
that they were going to be hearings one day.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
And we did.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
We did the footsteps, the footwork, grassroots efforts, had people
sending emails to congressmen and senators to bring the attention
to the subject. Finally we had a hearing. Where are
you guys at in the state in that process in Canada?
And what is you know, what are you doing within

(01:37:51):
Canadians for Disclosure to try to kind of get out
that message out there to other Canadians.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Well, that's we're at the point where we're starting. We're
trying to grow the group and and you know, we
really need to probably bring in some Canadian influencers to
get our numbers up because we have I think we
have about one hundred people now and you know, it's
just not enough to make this something really monumental. So

(01:38:21):
we really need to start growing our members and bringing
in influencers who will talk about this and and then
so once you know, once we have the members, I
think we can we can start writing petitions, which is
very helpful. Currently we're writing letters to our members of
Parliament and the next step we're going to do is

(01:38:44):
we're going to write the there's like a new Science
committee that's being formed and they don't even have an
agenda yet, and apparently we can actually petition ideas for
them to add to their agenda. So we're going to
write that team. There's I think there's about maybe ten

(01:39:05):
or twelve of them on this committee, and so and
then and you know, we'll try to write letters to
them and and really get them talking about the topic.
And if they can make it even a little bit
more public so we more of the public can provide input,
would be great. And then there was a big it's

(01:39:26):
called the Sky Canada Project report just came out. You
might have heard seen that on Twitter and it's been
circulating a bit, and it's it's a it's a very
large report on the state of ufology basically in Canada.
And and I think, uh, I mean, I actually had
had a chance to read the report yet, but I think,

(01:39:47):
you know, there's definitely an interest in the Canadian government.
But right now, I find that the Canadian government is
very focused, of course on trade. Trade is a big
shoe right now because of the tariffs, and you know,
there's also two major wars going on, and so I
think Canadian politicians are very distracted right now. But we're

(01:40:11):
trying to bring it to the forefront into the to
get them to think about this. And right now, Parliament
is in recess probably like Congress is right now, right
so when they get back in the fall, hopefully we'll
really start pushing more. And then maybe with this new

(01:40:32):
this thing coming up in Congress, isn't something coming up
in September where there's going to be whistleblowers testifying.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
I've heard that. Yeah. I don't know if it's solidified,
but i've heard that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think September tenth or twelfth or something.
So what we're noticing is that the Canadian politicians are
aware of the subject, and you know, they've been down
to meetings with you know, because we're part of the
Five Eyes, so they know what's going on. They very
clearly know what's going on, but they just don't share.

(01:41:10):
They're even more tight about information, I think than Americans are.
And then we also had those those Chinese quote balloons,
and I think one or two were balloons, but there
was one that wasn't a balloon that it and it
was shot down over Alaska and they apparently couldn't retrieve it,

(01:41:32):
which I find really unlikely.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Yeah, we know that they had. I think it was
like three or four objects during that time. The spy
balloon obviously everybody saw that, but then there were like
three objects they shot were down over the Yukon I think, right, Yukon,
that's what it was. Yeah, and apparently I know at
the time someone was saying, it's just all ice out there,

(01:41:58):
so if something fell, you'd be able to see it.
It wouldn't be any you know, deal trying to find it.
So we know they found it. We know they recovered it,
so that would be Canadian government retrieving.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Craft.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
Do you think they hand that over to United States
or do you think they hold that somewhere in Canada?

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
I mean, if they hold it in Canada, it's in
it's in sort of it's kind of like falls under
some sort of five eyes or Norah kind of uh,
you know, agreement. So if we have it, which I doubt,
but if we did, it would be probably controlled by

(01:42:40):
the US to a certain degree.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
Finding out as I was talking to Victor as well
as just finding out, the United States just has their.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Hands in everybody's business.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
And anytime there's a craft that goes down, we happen
to always be right there, right on the spot. So
obviously the United States has probably taken it, you know,
anything that Canada it has. But the thing that shocked me,
and we were looking at when I talked to Victor
last is we were looking at documents. You guys in
Canada have released a lot of UFO files over the years.

(01:43:11):
They p did say flying saucer and all these things
in the actual notes that were released. And it's just
so strange that Canada wouldn't be more open to have
the conversation when you have that sort when that came
directly from the government, those paperwork, that paperwork, what do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
You think about that?

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Well, I imagine they're under orders by the Americans, And
I mean, we're allies, right, so we don't go spilling
the beans on things. If if it's agreed upon, let's
say politicians agree upon that, we're yeah, we'll keep these
secrets because we're working together. I mean, I know we
have we have low earth orbit satellites that DOT watch basically,

(01:43:58):
I mean you're looking through your for missiles or rogue
satellites and so on, but also they could also be
looking for UAP, so that information. We're working in conjunction
with the United States. So we're sharing constantly back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Those people that you know in the intelligence community in
Canada aren't going to be spilling the beans because you know,
we've told our allies, no, we're going to keep those
secrets and so on. And I think, you know, the
Americans kind of direct the Five Eyes, and with good

(01:44:37):
reason in a way, because we relied on the Americans
for our military protection. We don't have nuclear bombs in Canada.
We don't really have a strong military anymore. We're building
it and we're we're you know, we're you know, ramping
up our military and so on. But for years, I
think we did depend on the United States, so they

(01:45:01):
should have the lead in a way. I mean, I
don't always agree with, you know, obviously the decisions being made,
but I can understand where it's coming from.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
I was just about to say, you know, it's a
double edge sword, because yeah, I'm here, it's beautiful that
we have control of the situation. But then you look
at who has control of the situation, and then it's like, well,
it could be bad. It could definitely be bad. And
you know, when we look at this, I just feel
like there isn't a moment. And when we talked about,

(01:45:31):
as the viewer stated earlier, that the disclosure will only
come from us, there's just too many reasons for the
government just not to disclose.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
It's just too many reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
The main thing I think is the power situation where
they are just afraid to lose power.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Which, truthfully, when you look at it, is this should.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
We want to be under a power structure here on earth? Like,
what is your thought about Have you ever thought about that?
What is your thought about that?

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Hmm? Yeah, I mean not. You know, like I said earlier,
I'm a trekker, so I'm into the star trek type universe.
I grew up on that. So so my idea is
like no money, no money, economy like that all our
needs are met and endless energy. But I don't know
if we're anywhere near that. And also a government's structure

(01:46:26):
that that is I guess democratic, But I don't know.
I think we're so we're so caught up on I
don't don't. I honestly don't know if we can get
ourselves out of the pickle we're in. I mean, when
you look at our environment, we're greed driven, We're we're

(01:46:48):
people that are greed driven. I mean, it's that seems
to rule everything. So I don't know if that can
ever change.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
I think a big problem is is that, like when
you talk about politics and why this structure has to
be removed, is because you have people who have been
lifelong politicians, who have lived in this their whole life
has been handed down to them from their uncles who
were politicians, and there's an agenda already there at play,
and it's about money, and it's that will never you

(01:47:17):
can never uncorrupt that without taking that entire thing down
and restructuring. Because it should just be Kate as you know, representative,
someone who because the the mandate should be, the requirement should.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Be that you care about the people.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
It should be the people first. It should be about
the people. If it isn't about that, then you shouldn't
be in that seat. If you're you know, addressing anyone
else's interests, but the people. It shouldn't be a seat
that you're in and we that you know, it would
be a perfect world if it was already set up
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
But the thing is is that you know, we live.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
We happen to be lucky enough to live in a
moment where we have an opportunity to rekind of adjust
that because, as I said said many times on the
show before, there's only a few situations of scenarios that
could ever take place it would allow us to have
that moment, and it would be UFO disclosure, it would
be an asteroid impact, or it'd be something like a

(01:48:15):
nuclear war. Those last two things aren't good for the
population and humanity. So the thing that we're dealing with
right now that could be beneficial to us would be
the UFO disclosure, And which is why it's so important
that we get to that finish line, which means if
it comes through us, we have to find this moment
where we all get together, as we talked about earlier.

(01:48:38):
If you have anything to add to that, we have
a few minutes left here.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
Yeah, I just always go back to Richard Dolan's concept
that we're heading towards this type of control system where
everything's going to get locked down, and now's our opportunity
to make these moves. It almost requires a revolution, and

(01:49:05):
it has to happen now because ten years from now,
everything's going to get locked down. There'll be no border movement.
I mean when you talk about what's that new company
by Feel, they're the the control where they're they're they're
using cameras and you know, monitoring people and and uh,

(01:49:26):
you know, controlling movements over borders and so on. It's
already happening right Try try getting into the States right now,
even if you're an American. I've I have a friend
who came into the States or tried to and got
turned back and she's a dual citizen. So there, you know,
like that control system if it gets locked down. Pallunteer

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is the name of the company. Yeah, that company. So
if the if the world gets locked down like that,
there might not be any movement at all, and there's
going to be no you know, disclosure or anything. It's
gonna happen now.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
When you put it like that, I mean, it's definitely
very important. And it's like I said, it's what energizes me.
It's what makes me want to get up and do
these shows and have these conversations to move the needle
because we have to find a way to get to
where it is that we're talking about. And yeah, it's
gonna be a rough patch. Yeah, it's going to be

(01:50:23):
who knows years of us being taken back in time
as far as you know some of the it's going
to be crazy, but it's something that we have to do.
And the thing is we'll go down in history books.
Is just you know, part of the of the moment
and part of the conversation that drove us or took

(01:50:43):
us to wherever it is we're going to eventually get to.
So that's why I love having these conversations here and
what I would like to do, because we have about
two minutes left, if you wouldn't mind telling everybody where
they can find you and where they can pick up
on some of your work.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Okay, well as far as Canadians for Disclosure, we have
a new website, so it's Canadians for Disclosure dot org.
I can be found on Twitter is the best place,
but Facebook as well. So my Twitter handle is Kate
underscore Chasse and we also the Canadians, for disclosure, have

(01:51:27):
a Twitter Twitter handle as well, it's Canada UAP. But yeah,
and I'm on Facebook. I think I'm the only Kate
Shasse on Facebook, so you know, send me a friend request.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
And also i'd love to hear about if you could
talk to because X spaces I haven't really gotten into that.
I'm actually only participating in one or two and just
as a listener. I never got on stage and talk.
But you do this one called Beyond Being Human X space?
Is this something that you consistently do and kind of

(01:52:02):
what happens there? What can someone expect?

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
So I actually just curate their feed, meaning I post
for them just to increase engagement. But Beyond Being Human
is a website and he's an experiencer in himself and
he's just trying to move this topic forward, is like
everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
So okay, yeah, well, you know, like I said, if
I know, you probably remember coming in being one of
the newer people to the subject, like myself. There was
a time when this community was at odds with each other.
There was a lot of infighting going on within this community,
which is crazy because we're all trying to get to
the same goal. I'm glad that's gone away, and I

(01:52:47):
kind of stepped in. When I stepped in, that was
still a thing, and I was like, let me be
the person to kind of bridge the gap, bring everybody together.
You shouldn't be at odds with each other. That's what
they want, They want us doing that. Yeah, focus on
what it is that we need to do, and I'm
just here to kind of bring us all together. So
I would love to reach out to you again, Kate

(01:53:08):
and have another discussion and let's keep moving the needle
and getting this conversation going.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
For sure, Yeah, for sure, I'd love to come back
and thank you so much for having me this time.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
No problem at all, Kate, pleasure, Thanks for coming in.
Enjoy the rest of your night. We will talk soon, Okay,
thank you, all right, take everybody. All right, guys, Kate
has say right here in the building on Space Style Radio,
the app Dollurs Radio Show, we continuously have conversations that
move the needle. Once again, I think this one achieved

(01:53:41):
that as well as I want to make sure that
our listeners know that you can put out requests for
certain guests that you think would have a great conversation
and would move the needle. Let me know on Facebook
or on X hit me up and let me know.
Other than that, we'll be right back right after this
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All right, everybody, welcome back Space Stout Radio, the after
Hours radio show. We are now in after our number
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coming back from radio. In about fifteen seconds, we'll get
in some Steve Stoctor, tellsen Toe, missing person mysteries.

Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
And let me get a set up here. Five seconds.
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So we are in the third and final hour here.
We want to thank our guests. Take Jess Say for

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stepping in and talk to UFOs. She's a UFO researcher.
She's experience, so she talked about her UFO sighting.

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Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
Jump into the third and final hour, and we're gonna
go ahead and get that going with a little bit
of Steve Stockton tells un told Missing person Mysteries. Also
we'll get in some UFO in weird news as well.
We do appreciate Steve Stockton being a part of the
show as always.

Speaker 14 (02:00:41):
Here we go Welcome to Tales, Untold and Missing Person's
Mysteries on spaced out Radios after Hours. My name is
Steve Stockton, and I'm here to take you on a
journey of mysteries, legends and true stories. Come join me
on this strange adventure of tales, untold and missing person mysteries.

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Charles Ashmore lived in the town of Troy in New
York State, United States with his wife, mother and minors,
son who was sixteen years old, and his two adult daughters. Now,
the family was very wealthy and respectable members of their community.
Depending on who you ask. Either in the year eighteen
seventy one or eighteen seventy two, the Ashmore's moved from Troy,

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New York to Richmond, Indiana, and two years later Charles
bought a farm in nearby Quincy, which he and his
family settle law. Right next to their farmhouse, there was
a creek which brought the family their fresh coal spring
water no matter what the season. Around nine o'clock on
this particularly evening in the night of November ninth, eighteen
seventy eight, while the family all sat by the fire

(02:01:48):
after supper, either conversing or possibly reading a book as
a family, or some type of entertainment that happened in
the late eighteen hundreds, Charles Ashmore Junior got up from
the fire and for the family he was going to
fetch himself a bit of water from the creek. He
grabbed a clean tin can from the kitchen and walked

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out of the house. After waiting a very long time
for the younger Charles to return from the stream, the
elder Charles, his father, took the oldest daughter, Martha with
him little lantern and went off in search of the
young man. It was early November and the light snow
had fallen outside, and though it lent greatly to the
terrible cold, both Martha and Charles Senior felt right down

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to their very bones. It didn't deter them. It seemed
the snow was a blessing in disguise, however, as in
its light, dusting all along the ground, it formed a path,
a path which showed the footprints of sixteen year old
Charles Ashmore Junior. Father and daughter team dutifully followed the
path the entire time, calling out the young man's name, Auldon,

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no vail as there was no returned response and the
tracks led to nowhere. Literally they led no The footprints
of the young Charles Ashmore Junior stopped in the middle
of the way from the house to the stream. Snow
was undisturbed. After they had walked about seventy five feet
halfway from their front door to the creek where they

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got their water. Now, as this came to the father's attention,
he silenced his daughter and calmly held out his lantern.
Into the darkness of the night, they decided to walk
around the last few footprints in order, if nothing else,
to preserve them further investigation. They could only imagine the
stars shining as bright as they can only laid at

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night on a farm out in the middle of nowhere,
full of fresh air, a sky as dark as an abyss.
They made their way around these footprints and then onto
the creek. Now as they approached the creek, it said
that all the strength was immediately drained from young Martha Ashmore,
and the same can be said for the air in
her father's lungs when they chanced upon what they saw next.

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The creek was frozen over and had been for some time.
It was covered even by the fresh snow that was
falling from the frigid coal skies above. There was no
sign that the younger Ashmore male had been there. There
was no evidence that anyone had been there, in fact,
at least not since the creek had frozen and the
snow had started to fall. The next morning brought with

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it not only the warmth of the sun, but also
more heartbreak to an already devastated mother and confused family.
There had still been no sign or word from the
family's only son. Hours later. It's like he was here
one minute, he went to get water, and then poof gone.
Four days passed and nothing had changed except the melting
of the snow. It's ashmore, Charles Junior's mother had went

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to the creek to fetch herself some water. No one
was around at that time to get it, for as
they had been previously, she had been hesitant to leave
the house and go near her son had gone missing today,
though it was unavoidable if she wanted to drink. But
the closer she got to the creek, the faster her
heart began to beat. About halfway there, in fact, right

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around the same area where the last footprints of her
son were seen, even though they had been washed away
by the elements of the melting snow, she began to
hear Charles Junior's voice calling for help, as sure as
a mother could be, not just of what she was hearing,
but of what she was feeling as well. Her mother's intuition, you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
Might call it.

Speaker 14 (02:05:31):
She was sure of it. Her son was right there
near the creek, and though she couldn't yet see him,
she could hear him very well, call you out for help.
It seemed, however, that the closer she got to the creek,
the stranger things became, and she called out to her
son again and again, and then silenced herself to listen
from which directions crises were coming from. It suddenly seemed

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like they were coming from everywhere, all at once, but
somehow also from nowhere, as she still couldn't see him,
not a single sign of him.

Speaker 2 (02:06:04):
Finally, the woman ran home.

Speaker 14 (02:06:06):
As fast as her legs could carry her wait for
her husband to get home so she could tell him
what she'd heard. Now, she was obviously very confused and nervous.
After all, she had just heard the voice of her
son calling to her for help. It couldn't figure out
where the voice was coming from. Actually, was he calling
for help?

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
Was he there at all?

Speaker 14 (02:06:26):
One question later on about what she'd heard and experienced,
all of which was chalked up to a delirious woman,
Unfortunately a common diagnosis at the time. This was a
mother who was so heartbroken over the loss of her
only son and youngest child that she had gone momentarily mad,
hallucinating that she had heard him calling to her.

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
Now.

Speaker 14 (02:06:46):
This opinion was further backed up at least by some,
as when she was asked what she heard, she exclaimed
that she wasn't sure of what her son was actually saying,
other than that he was actually calling for she had
stated that his words were entirely clear, she heard them
as though he were standing right next to her, Yet

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she also remembered not understanding what those words were. Strangely,
was something supernatural going on here?

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
Now?

Speaker 14 (02:07:18):
In the next few months, with no discernible pattern, other
members of the family would at random times hear the
voice of young Charles Ashmore Junior calling out for help.
Though the voice always seemed to be coming near the
creek where he had seemingly disappeared, the closer they got
to the voice, the farther way it seemed to move, until,
by all appearances, it blinked right out of existence. Again,

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this fell in line with what the mother claimed of experience.
One thing each person in the family who heard the
voice knew for absolute certain, however, is that the voice
they were hearing was definitely that of the younger Ashmore.
And again, no one was ever able to repeat what
he had said. But though they claim his voice was

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so clear it as if he were standing right there
at the same time, it had still been too far
away for them to understand the words. Even if he
had been giving directions to his family, his family wasn't
able to comprehend them, no, this sounds strange. Sounds of
help calling from the creek went on intermittently through the

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rest of the winter and spring, and would seemingly pick
a family member at random to experience this and hear
these words come somewhere, though the calling voice seemed to
come at further and further intervals, until finally, at the
point of around about a year later, it stopped altogether.

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Charles Ashmore Junior was never seen or heard from again,
and no one was ever able to say exactly what
had happened to him. No one even had a reasonable
idea as to who or what the culprit could have been,
so there was no choice but for the family to
move on with a devastating loss not only to their
family unit, but to their very arts and souls. Now

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in the magazine Fate in June of nineteen fifty three,
a very similar disappearance story was published. Depending on who
you ask, you'll hear people swear to the truth of
the legend, and still others will attest the story has
been thoroughly debunked. Whatever you choose to believe about what
happened to David Lang and his family, whether it be

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a well written story which originated in the late eighteen hundreds,
or a true account of something that really happened to
a man in the same time period. I hope we
can all certainly agree we are hearing more and more
true stories just like this in modern times. In Fate magazine,
the article was called how My Father Disappeared, and was

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allegedly taken straight from an interview with the daughter of
the man who was said to have vanished into thin air.
There's a witness to the strange happenings that day and
the days to come. Her name was Sarah Lang, and
the story of her father disappearing midstep, right in front
of her very eyes, is one of legend, whether true
or not. This is what she allegedly told the journalists

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interviewing her. On September twenty third, eighteen eighty, a farmer
named David Lang was walking through a field not far
from his house. His two young children, George and the
aforementioned Sarah, laid in the courtyard between where their mother,
his wife, stood on the porch and where he their
father was walking in the field. Right at this moment

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in time, two men, a lawyer named Judge August Beck
and his brother in law, whose name has since been lost,
in the midst of diamond retelling, were approaching the house
in a horse drawn vehicle. All at once. David Lang's
wife dropped what she had in her hands and screamed,
while the two men in the buggy stopped, open mouthed
and astonished at what they'd just seen. Children also frozen,

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shock and terror. Right before no fewer than five sets
of eyes which were almost exclusively on him, David Lang
disappeared into thin air in midstep, right off the face
of the earth. Despite their hanging up very intense search,
no trace of him was ever found. There were no holes,
no wells, no place that a man could have disappeared. However,

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it said, for years after this unexplained and terrifying incident,
the family, the children in particular, would hear the voice
of their father calling out for help. Though his words
seemed to be clear, they were indiscernible, and the children,
nor anyone else who heard these intermitt in christ could
ever make out exactly what David was trying to say.

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A few years later, a circle with a diameter of
about fifteen feet appeared seemingly out of nowhere on the
exact same spot where David is said to take his
last steps here on earth as we know it. He
was never seen again, and just as quickly as the
voices started manifesting, they abruptly stopped and he was never
heard from again either. Some people believe that the inability

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to corroborate any details in the Lying story is the
reason so many still considered to be just a retelling
of an old fiction story written by popular author Ambrose
Beiers back in the day. While the story itself is unreliable,
with no record even of a David Lying or a
Judge Pack anywhere in the County of Sumner, the similarities
in the above cases is undeniable, however, and the ashmorees

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did exist, and young Christian did go missing. It's a
matter of historical record as far as the details, though
who knows. So can each of these men have crossed,
perhaps into an alternate dimension? Is this why their voices
were seemingly heard right in front of multiple witnesses, as
clear as day at first, until they finally couldn't be

(02:12:54):
heard anymore or understood. It's hard to disassemble facts and
evidence in case which took place so long ago. Any
witnesses have long since perished, and records had a way
of being destroyed throughout history, purposely or not. Example, in
the finest county where my father is from, the courthouse
was burned during the Civil War, with lots of marriage

(02:13:16):
and death records and tax records and deeds perishing with
the fire, so in those cases there's nothing left for
posterity before the Civil War. As bizarre as it is
for someone to seemingly vanish without a trace, it's even
more strange and even somewhat terrifying, especially to those of
us in the paranormal community or some haught aware and

(02:13:38):
think we may have some answers or at least theories
as to what's happening in some of these cases. For
this to happen to someone in clear and full view
of other people, not only does it seem in most
of these cases that the person couldn't have possibly gotten far,
but it's absolutely impossible for them to have gone anywhere
without someone else seeing where they want. As we on

(02:14:01):
this channel know and have come to understand, this seems
to happen a lot. Many cases have been sprouting up
in recent years as well, leading us to try and
come up with our own conclusions, hypothesis, and even just
our own opinions as to what in the world is
happening not only here but other places in the world.
If it's in fact in this world and not some

(02:14:24):
sort of alternate reality, where are these people going?

Speaker 2 (02:14:28):
To?

Speaker 14 (02:14:30):
Like to close now on one of the earliest and
most well known accounts of what I like to call
unconscious extinction. In the late seventeen sixties, in a small
English town named Shepton Mallet, there lived a man in
his late seventies who, by all accounts, was crippled with
an unknown disease. He was a retired farmer and his

(02:14:52):
name was Owen Parfitt. Owen was completely unable to get
around without help, and usually this help was given to
him by his elderly sister, who was also his primary caregiver. Now,
this unnamed sister apparently was a very good caregiver and
seemed to all who knew her to love her brother
very much and who took much joy in caring for him. So,

(02:15:13):
because of his disability and inability to do anything on
his own, Owen spent most of his day's bed ridden,
but some were actually spent with him enjoying one of
his favorite pastimes. He simply loved to sit outside by
the doorway of his home, which he shared with his sister.
One very chilly and possibly rainy day, Owen was sitting
with a light jacket draped over him in his usual

(02:15:35):
spot by the door outside of his house, while his sister,
slash caregiver, was keeping a sporadic eye on him while
also trying to get some chores around the house accomplished.
Owen's sister went outside to bring him inside for lunch,
but what she found was an empty chair with the
jacket draped over it. At first, Owen's sister thought perhaps

(02:15:57):
a neighbor had happened by and saw one who made
he hasked to be brought in, and maybe Shanton heard
him calling her. You see, Owen was entirely unable to
move around on his own, so it would never have
occurred to her that that's what he did. She searched
the entire house, all the surrounding property, and then asked
the neighbors, but to no avail, Owen was nowhere to

(02:16:18):
be found and no one had seen him. The neighbors
did confirm that they had seen no one sitting in
his usual spot by the door in front of the
house all day long, just as his sister had said,
they had seen the light jacket draped over him as well.
Although an investigation was conducted by the authorities of the time,
this day, no trace of Evan Parfitt has ever been found.

(02:16:42):
And where did this man go? He wasn't able to
move on his own. People observed him sitting on his
porch with a jacket on, and then in the tin
cloven eye Jacket's there, Evan's gone, never to be seen again.

Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
Very strange.

Speaker 14 (02:16:58):
Indeed, Well there you have it. What do you make
of these strange historical cases of people going missing from
farms some almost two hundred years ago. I'd love to
hear your comments and opinions, but I do remind you
to please be respectful to the opinions of others till

(02:17:19):
we meet again. I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to
you next.

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
Time, all right, that is, Steve, I can tells untold
Missing Person Mysteries knocks it out of the park every
single time. Guys, make sure that you go show some
love over on Steve Stockton's channel, which is tells Untold

(02:17:43):
and then also Missing Person Mysteries a lot of awesome
tales there, and just keep in mind though these aren't
just stories. These are definitely individuals that have gone missing
unfortunately and most cases have not come back. So awesome
to keep their thoughts going and just an awesome thing

(02:18:07):
to do, Steve Stockton. So with that being said, we
got about five minutes here until we go into our
final break. I do have something that I want to
do after the break. Roger Murray, one of our viewers here,
brought up the anniversary of the Hopkinsville Goblin being essentially

(02:18:27):
right in this timeframe, so I wanted to cover it
because it is I have a theory behind the actraterrestrials
involved in that scenario, and we'll actually go back and
kind of go through the case itself, a little history lesson,
UFO history lesson, and then we'll talk about how those

(02:18:49):
things might link into this other story. So, without spoiling it,
some of you guys probably know already know where I'm
going with that, some of you don't, but I think
it'd be awesome to go ahead look into that. So
we'll do that, and we'll get in some UFO and
weird news as well to close out the show and
close out the weekend. But for the last few minutes

(02:19:11):
here before we go to break, just kind of, you know,
reflecting on the conversation that we had today with our guests.
Once again, Kate Chasse, you definitely wanted to make sure
you follow her on her social platforms. We've had those
things posted in the chat here tonight also you can
find them in the description of the show. So go

(02:19:32):
and show some love. But you know, when we get
to having this conversation and she brought up you know,
her perspective is a lot like Minds as far as
coming into this field within the last ten years essentially,
you know, kind of jumping right into the historical aspect

(02:19:53):
and absorbing everything that I could on this subject when
I came in. It sounds like she did the same thing.
But but the you know, one of the people you mentioned,
Richard Dolan, which hopefully I get the interview Richard Dolan
on the show. I know he has this whole team
that takes you know, his request. But if Richard is

(02:20:13):
watching the show, if anybody that knows that Dolan is
watching this show, send the link over to him and
let him know that we love to have him on
to have a real deep conversation about post disclosure or
after disclosure, which just so happens to be one of
the books that he co authored with Bryce's Abel and
I guess now they're doing the show together with Need

(02:20:35):
to Know, which is actually pretty cool to be able
to see that the history that they have with each other,
and you know, just really the focus which should be
what do we do once disclosure gets here?

Speaker 2 (02:20:47):
Like? What is the plan? Right?

Speaker 1 (02:20:50):
Everybody's like disclosure, disclosure, disclosure? What's the plan once it
gets here? If it landed on your lap tomorrow, then what.

Speaker 3 (02:21:00):
Then? What?

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
A lot of these when I look in and that's
I think what separates what we do from a lot
of the community is that the outlook is not just
talking about an interesting subject and getting to but it's
actually like, what is the plan? Like what can we
do as far as you and I and us getting

(02:21:24):
together and you know other channels that do the same
exact thing, and how could we all come together? Is
what does that plan look like? Is there something we
could put together? You know, all egos put aside, right
because everybody wants to be the person that it runs
their audience and this is my audience. And it shouldn't

(02:21:45):
be like that, especially in the community that we're in,
because we're all in it for the same purpose. So
there shouldn't be these segregated little camps of different individuals
that are only watching this particular you know, show host
and vice versa. There shouldn't be these show hosts out
there that are worried about, oh, this is my community,

(02:22:08):
and it's not what this is about. This is about humanity.
This is bigger than anyone's ego and any anyone that
wants to segregate and call their audience their audience, right,
this is bigger than then. It will never work as
long as as we stay segregated in that way. So

(02:22:28):
we got to figure out a way too. And I
propose some things like maybe we get with these these
show hosts. Maybe all the show hosts get together and
we you know, maybe come together for one show where
everyone's audience is tuned in, right, and and where everyone
gets to have the conversation and gets to be part

(02:22:49):
of putting the plan together. Because I just don't see
a lot of channels focused on the whole What do
we do once disclosure hits? I think disclosure is like
a tagline it's it's it's a line that people say,
not really understanding what the gravity of it is and
what is going to entail for us to kind of

(02:23:09):
actually first get there and then what do we do afterwards? Right,
people have different ideas of what it looks like on
the other side of disclosure. I'm under the feeling that,
you know, it's a moment in time for human beings
to be able to determine if they want to continue

(02:23:30):
with the same mold saying that we've been dealing with
this whole time, which I don't think we would, because
they've been keeping secrets for the last eighty years about
UFOs and about so many other different things that that
are important and it found out maybe even appalling to
a lot of people out there.

Speaker 2 (02:23:47):
And do we want to continue with that? Probably not right?

Speaker 1 (02:23:52):
Do we want to focus on a dollar that did
that that ensures disparities in how people are able to
live life and if they're comfortable or not? Right, these
are a lot of things that can be rectified in
taking care of within, you know, by having one of
these conversations in a moment that we probably won't have

(02:24:14):
again for another few millennia. We're gonna get into more
conversation though right after this break. So important that we
do this, and we will come back with the Hopkinsville Et,
some UFO and weird news after the break, and you know,
just just kind of get your brain thinking.

Speaker 2 (02:24:34):
Come back.

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Speaker 2 (02:24:42):
You back here in a multi year All right, we
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Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
Once again, we definitely want to thank our guests tonight,
k Chassa for stepping in and sitting in the seat
and having an the tough conversation. Once again, if you
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(02:25:14):
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(02:25:38):
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the show. Same thing with any other people that you
love to see on the show, let them know that
it would be cool to see them on the.

Speaker 2 (02:25:54):
A half hours radio show. So we got about three.

Speaker 1 (02:26:00):
And a half minutes here before we come back from break.
I want to thank our super chatters for tonight. I
know we had a couple come in meil WD four
to who got it going earlier saying happy birthday to
Flat six, and then the dead Men who came in
and dropped two superchats here saying disclosure. When I come

(02:26:21):
from the government, it will come from we the people.
And then a second comment stating, in my opinion, when
they try to discredit people, that's when you're over the
targets like Russia and Lazaar.

Speaker 2 (02:26:35):
Yeah, I can agree with that. I can agree with that.

Speaker 1 (02:26:38):
You know, one of the main things is is about
us getting together and getting to the point to where
we're you know, unified is the word I'm looking for.
Where we're unified as one and we can move forward.
That's gonna that's a scary day for the powers that be,

(02:26:59):
And anytime it looks like it's going that way, that's
when they'll figure out another way to keep us going
at each other. Right, that's what politics are. Politics are
a huge distraction. It makes you stand on this side
because you're a Republican or I'm a Republican or whoever. Right,
they want to split you and put you on the side.

(02:27:19):
You're either on this side or that side. Because you're
on this side or that side, then you don't like
those other people. So there should never be a time
you should sit down and talk to those people, and
vice versa. And that's how they keep us away from
keep us from unifying man and realizing who we are and.

Speaker 2 (02:27:39):
What we are.

Speaker 1 (02:27:40):
So don't fall for the don't fall for the distraction.
Don't fall for it, and we will be right back
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listened to the Last Night Show while I was on
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was intellectually honest, right right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can
I know exactly what you're talking about. And we got
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(02:29:41):
seconds coming back from break.

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
Here and let's get ready to go. Guess we'll do
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free and catch up on what you miant As we
go ahead and jump back into the conversation here, I
think what I'll do is go ahead and put this
under the we'll do We'll put it under a UFO
report and talk about this Hopkinsville extraterrestrial.

Speaker 2 (02:30:36):
So let's go ahead and do that right about now.

(02:31:04):
All right, we'll go.

Speaker 1 (02:31:06):
With the UFO reports what we'll call it here tonight
as we go ahead and talk about something. The anniversaryhood
just came up on us here. So let me see,
this is going to be fifty so seventy years coming
up here on August twenty first, which is when the
event began. It ran through the night of August twenty

(02:31:28):
first to the twenty second, nineteen fifty five. That happens
to be the Hopkinsville Goblin or the Hopkinsville UFO sighting,
whatever you want to call it. There was an event
that happened back in the fifties, and it's one of
the more peculiar cases. And I don't actually have the

(02:31:49):
alien timeline with me right now, but there was If
you looked on the alien timeline, essentially what it is
is Joe Nichols Alien Timeline is what it's called, and
it just has images or depictions drawings of different extraterrestrials
that have been reported over the years. So starting back

(02:32:12):
at Roswell and going forward different types of extraterrestrial events
that happened, they drew an image of what these beings
look like. So I'm gonna go ahead and read the
story this way we can kind of come to come

(02:32:32):
to what this actually is and actually let me bring
it put it back on stage here. So this would
be the Hompkinsville, Kentucky. This is newspaper from the morning
after where it says right there on the front page,
a little small section, but it says story of spaceship
twelve Little Men probe today Kentucky farmhouse seen of alleged

(02:32:57):
raid by Strange crew last night. Reports say bullets failed
to affect visitors and that sounds bananas. If you don't recall,
if you don't know this sighting, then definitely tune in
as we're gonna go over this here. And I'm just
gonna read this from the Wikipedia page for this because
it is it seems to have more of the actual

(02:33:18):
details of what happened that night. All in one place,
so we'll go ahead and read from there. So the
Hopkinsville The Kelly Hopkinsville Encounter, also known as the Hopkinsville
Goblins case or the Kelly Greenman case, is a claim
close encounter with extraterrestrial beings that occurred near the communities

(02:33:41):
of Kelly and Hopkinsville in Christian County, Kentucky, during the
night and early morning of August twenty first through twenty second,
nineteen fifty five. Ufologists regarded as one of the most
significant and well documented cases in the history of UFO incidents,
while skepting there was no actual physical evidence that the

(02:34:04):
encounter ever took place, and the reports were due to
quote the.

Speaker 2 (02:34:07):
Effects of excitement.

Speaker 1 (02:34:11):
And misidentification of natural phenomena such as meteors and owls
right as bananas. As that sounds, We're gonna go ahead
and get into why they even thought that that would
be the case. The alleged encounter was officially classified as
a hoax in the Project Bluebook files by the United
States Air Force. Psychologists have used the alleged incident as

(02:34:37):
an academic example of pseudoscience to help students distinguish truth
from fiction. So the claims are. On the evening of
August twenty first, nineteen fifty five, five adults and seven
children arrived at the Hopkinsville Police station claiming that small
alien creatures from the spaceship have been attacking their farmhouse

(02:35:00):
and that they had been holding them off with gunfire
for nearly four hours. Two of the adults, Elmer Sutton
and Billy Ray Taylor, claimed they had been shooting a
few short, dark figures who repeatedly popped up at the
doorway and peered into the windows. The Kentucky New Era,
the first paper to report the incident, increase the number

(02:35:20):
of creatures from twelve to fifteen and continues to be
the number most often reported. So this was one of
the cases where I think I talked about this maybe
yesterday for a moment, where this is one of the
cases where there are the extraterrestrials couldn't just materialize into

(02:35:40):
the home, right, They could not just materialize into the home.

Speaker 2 (02:35:46):
They actually.

Speaker 1 (02:35:49):
They actually uh you know, were peering through the windows
and doors, attempting to try to get through the windows
and doors and could not do so. So I thought
that was a unique characteristic because when we hear about
any sort of U or extraterrestrial encounter. Usually they say
they can just materialize right in the room. For whatever reason,
these ones weren't able to do that, So you have

(02:36:12):
to ask yourself. You know, it's just something to key
in on. And that's essentially what we did here. So
the residents of the farmhouse actually concerned about a possible
gun battle between local citizens. Four city police officers, five
state troopers, three deputy sheriffs, and four military police from
nearby United States Army Fort Campbell drove to the Sutton farmhouse,

(02:36:36):
located near the town of Kelly Christian of Kelly and
Christian County. The search yield did no evidence apart from
broken windows and holes in the screen, possibly as a
result of gunfire.

Speaker 2 (02:36:47):
So let me see here. Residents of the.

Speaker 1 (02:36:54):
Farmhouse included Glennie Langford, her children Lonnie, Charlton and Mary,
two grown sons from a previous marriage, Elmer Lucky Sutton,
John Charlie or J. C. Sutton, their respective wives, Vera
and Dealene, Aleene's brother O. P. Baker and Billy Ray

(02:37:14):
Taylor and his wife June. Both the Taylors, Lucky and
Vera Sutton were reportedly It turned into carnival workers who
were visiting the farmhouse. When officers returned the next day,
they found the house empty. Neighbors informed them that the
families had quote picked up and left after claiming the

(02:37:36):
creatures had returned about three point thirty in the morning.
The families claim received widespread coverage in local and national press.
Early articles did not refer to little green men. The
color was later added to some newspaper stories. Estimates of
the size of the alleged creatures varied from two to
four feet or sixty one to one hundred and twenty

(02:37:56):
two centimeters. For the Canadian audience out there in, details
such as large pointed ears, claw like hans, and eyes
that glowed yellow, and spindly legs later appeared in various media.
And so we have these are some of the gentlemen
who actually reported this kind of describing what actually happened.

(02:38:19):
This is original photo from nineteen fifty five from the
event or from you know, the reporting of the event. Also,
this was one of the descriptions that they had laid
out originally back then. So just look at this right
like who and for the radio audience, we're looking at

(02:38:40):
a drawing of the Hopkinsville, Kentucky goblin, which happened to
be you know, this two to four foot being. It
was silver and color from what I understand, and had
big ears. That was another thing that stuck out to me,
and as I was interested in in this case a

(02:39:00):
while back. It was the big years, Like, when have
you ever heard extraterrestrials with big ears?

Speaker 2 (02:39:06):
Right? Not often? Not common.

Speaker 1 (02:39:09):
Also, extraterrestrials that could not just materialize into your existence, right,
It's just something you don't hear. So these are two
things that I keyed in on as unique as far
as you know historical cases of extraterrestrial encounters go. And

(02:39:30):
I think it's important just to remember, so we'll kind
of continue the story here. I'm just see if I
can read this here.

Speaker 2 (02:39:37):
Gary F.

Speaker 1 (02:39:38):
Helson from witnesses description probably tailor's let's see many details
question well, especially the bent knee. These drawings also said
to have been shown to W A L a C
TV in Nashville, Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (02:39:58):
So this is what they were depict.

Speaker 1 (02:40:00):
As, this is an image of what actually supposedly took place.
I thought it was gonna go over the actual full
story of this here, but apparently one of the gentlemen
on the property. Just to kind of give paraphrase and
give you a synopsis. One of the gentlemen with chopping

(02:40:20):
wood or something on the night of the twenty first
of August nineteen fifty five, saw this craft go overhead,
which reminded me of the one that Kate talked about earlier,
which was this craft with lights all the way around
it that had flashing lights going all the way around it.
Apparently the gentleman saw this go over the treetop, which

(02:40:42):
there's trees lining the property. So we saw this craft
go over the treetop. Then after a while, all of
a sudden, these things started coming out of the woods
as depicted on this image. Here these four foot tall
beans that seemed to be shining. There were silver, They
had these these big eyes, and they had these huge ears,

(02:41:05):
and they were approaching with their hands above their head
right with these claws and just keep an eye on
what we're looking at here long arms, right, they were
long arms, claws, big ears, about four feet tall. They
were silver and approaching them. So they went in the house.

(02:41:27):
Apparently these things were approaching in front of the property.
There were many numbers of these things. They were climbing
up on the roof. At one point one of the
gentlemen went outside and reported that one of these things
was on the roof, reached down and grabbed his hair right,
and so he ran back in the house. They're shooting
at these things all night, a lot of gunfire. When

(02:41:49):
they would hit these things or when you would you know,
they're shooting directly at the beans, and the beans would
get hit and then do a backflip and then land
on their feet. They were kind of floating the entire time,
and then retreat into the force.

Speaker 2 (02:42:06):
And so this is going on.

Speaker 1 (02:42:08):
This is a battle back and forth all night where
they're fighting off these things. And then apparently it died
down around two three in the morning.

Speaker 2 (02:42:17):
And they were all up. They were all scared.

Speaker 1 (02:42:19):
They all ran to the car at one time and
drove into town, which is when they talked to the police.
As we started this story earlier, So the police came
back with them to the property. The newspapers came out
the next day, investigators came out, and you know, they
could see the gunshots apparently, but they couldn't find any

(02:42:39):
other evidence, is what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (02:42:42):
But I think this is one.

Speaker 1 (02:42:43):
You know, this case is unique because there was a
case that had or I don't know if you'd call
it a case, but there was a report of what
a lady stated was an extraterrestrial being back in twenty
nineteen in Lahune to Colorado.

Speaker 2 (02:43:01):
And I've shown this one before.

Speaker 1 (02:43:03):
And I don't know if I actually have the image here.
Let me see if I can bring it up on
Let's see if I can bring it up online here.
But there was uh uh, there was an encounter, or
not even an encounter because it all happened on a
ring camera, but there was what they call the Dobby extraterrestrial. Now,

(02:43:26):
people who have watched any show that I've done here
know I bring Gobby up often, and it's because I
feel like it's potentially, you know, one of the only
footage films or footage that we have potentially something not
from earth walking among walking on the surface of Earth.

(02:43:46):
I'm gonna show you this video and so for the
radio audience, this is a video. If you type in
Dobby dbby alien, you're gonna see this video. And I'm
just going to show this to our YouTube audience to
kind of paint the picture here. So we have the

(02:44:06):
as you see on the screen here, and I've showed
this to other people before they're like, nah, I don't
see what you're saying. And maybe some of you will
say the same thing tonight. However, just keep just come
into it with an open mind, right, Okay, So keep
in mind, these beings cannot just get through into the house.
They could not materialize. They had to be physically let in.

(02:44:27):
They were going to the windows, they were trying to
get inside the doors and could not get through.

Speaker 2 (02:44:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:44:33):
They Also, these are short beings silver big ears the
only type of extraterrestrials you ever heard of reportedly having
big ears. Some usually it's they have no ears or
they have little slits where the ears would be, right,
that's normally what you hear. So this and these could
not be extra trust real at all. These could be
along the lines of cryptids.

Speaker 2 (02:44:55):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (02:44:55):
They call them Kentucky the Hopkinsville Goblin. They could simply
be cryptids. But this is what let me see if
I can bring this up here, this.

Speaker 10 (02:45:10):
Is what.

Speaker 1 (02:45:12):
I think they could be, not saying they are. There's
a lot of things that point to this here. So
let me go ahead and get this up for you
guys here, and I know it's probably going to try
to play a commercial here, okay, good, all right, let
me go ahead play this year for you guys.

Speaker 11 (02:45:35):
Just about quarter to five, and take a look at
this viral video from La Hunta in southeastern Colorado.

Speaker 1 (02:45:41):
All right.

Speaker 11 (02:45:41):
Vivian Gomez wrote on Facebook that her security camera captured
this on Sunday morning. There are people on Facebook who
say it looks like Dobby from Harry Potter, or a
ghost or an alien.

Speaker 1 (02:45:53):
Or a Okay, so the reason why I'm even connecting,
you know, did this a few years ago. It was like,
these two things line up too much. I looked into
this case here. Nothing debunked this case. There was nothing
out there that that you know, solidified that this was
not you know, some human being walking around. It's too skinny.

(02:46:16):
If you look at the proportioned legs right, crazy focused
on the ears right, So assuming this is fully something
not from Earth, look at the big ears, look at
the floppy ears is I'll go ahead and let the
film play.

Speaker 11 (02:46:31):
Kidden slip flops and underwear.

Speaker 1 (02:46:33):
With Let me go back a little bit. Look at
the uniform silver color right about four feet tall roughly.

Speaker 11 (02:46:43):
From Harry Potter or a ghost or an alien or
a kit in slip flops and under.

Speaker 1 (02:46:49):
All right, could not get in the house. That was
the other part that I looked at. Right, so they say, oh, no,
as a kid he's coming out of the house or no,
would it appeared to be was whatever this is trying
to get into the house and was not able to
so as walking back down the driveway. At this point,

(02:47:10):
it fits the description of the Hopkinsville Goblin. And it's
just you know, hey, maybe it's the same thing, maybe
it's not, Maybe it's something totally different. If it exhibits
the same behaviors. And if you look at if you
take this video frame by frame, there are frames where
you can see these The arms on whatever this is

(02:47:31):
are pretty long, they hang way down past the crotch,
and there are some frames where they look like potentially
they could be classed. Are these the same things? I'm
not saying that they are. I'm just saying that there
are a lot of similarities too. And if this turned
out to be something that was not human was there's

(02:47:51):
a lot of things that points to it not being human.
I think most people agree, even the skeptics that tried
to look in to trying to originally debunk this video,
they all agree that the thing you're seeing in the
film is there, that it's not something that was added later,
That whatever it is is definitely in the video. It's

(02:48:14):
just about what it is. So they say they think
it's a kid with underwear on his head. I don't
think that that's the case. If it was, you'd be
able to tell that. There'd be so many ways you
could tell that. It doesn't appear to be that in
this video. A lot of people feel different ways about it.
But if you take whatever this is, the description of
whatever this is, and you weigh it against the Hopkinsville

(02:48:38):
Goblin story and the description once again, if I can
bring that back to the stage here, it's just very similar.
Let me see if I can bring this just kind
of toggle back and forth here. These two things are

(02:48:59):
very very similar. So I'm gonna read this here if
I can, let me see here, is there a world
where you could see similarities in these two things?

Speaker 2 (02:49:21):
Is there a world? Right?

Speaker 1 (02:49:24):
A locked door stumped them is what I would think.
I would think it trying to get in right. If
you go back to the Hopkinsville story. They tried to
get in all night long, for hours. These things attempted
to come through the windows, they tried to come through
the front door.

Speaker 2 (02:49:40):
They the point is.

Speaker 1 (02:49:42):
They physically needed to be let in, right. They apparently
didn't have the ability to materialize inside the home, and
the family dealt with these things all night long. The
description and them being the only things that I was
able to find, you know, as far as you know,
extraterrestrial and the descriptions that had ears, you know, because

(02:50:06):
when I first saw this case, I didn't know about Hopkinsville,
and I'm like, I've never heard of extraterrestrial with big
floppy ears. It doesn't even you know, register to me.
Then I came across the Hopkinsville encounter and I'm like, wow, okay,
this is you know, uh, an incident that aligns with
that description. And I look further and further into it,

(02:50:27):
and I'm like, wait, there's other similarities that kind of
go along with that here, and so is this potentially
video of whatever those Hopkinsville things are in Colorado attempting
to get into a woman's house in the middle of
the night. It caught au raine camera. If we know

(02:50:49):
the Aerial School incident happened. We know a craft landed
in that incident. We know that whatever was inside got
out the craft. So why wouldn't there be other scenarios
where craft have landed on the ground and whatever are
inside get out and walk around the surface of the planet.

Speaker 2 (02:51:11):
I believe that happens. It has to happen.

Speaker 1 (02:51:14):
You know, Lani Zamora saw the same thing, right, He
saw things get out the craft stand on the ground.
So under the cover of darkness, and this is what
we talked to the guests last night about. Do you
think under the cover of darkness you have some of
these crafts landing wherever they choose the land, and they're

(02:51:35):
getting out of the craft and walking around.

Speaker 2 (02:51:39):
Earth.

Speaker 1 (02:51:40):
Maybe not you know, in a group of people, or
maybe not somewhere where you're at, But are they in
a random, you know, isolated area and they're able to
just kind of walk around. I would have to imagine
that that would have to be true.

Speaker 2 (02:51:57):
So if you look at all these.

Speaker 1 (02:51:58):
Different things, this sighting right here, it just really feels
like it could be related to the Hopkinsville goblin. I
would love somebody to take this further and put it
to bed. Or put some more flames of the fire,
but I think there might be something there. So with
that being said, that's how went in the night. Kind

(02:52:20):
of commemorating the anniversary seventies anniversary coming up here on
the twenty first where the Hopkinsville Goblin. We'd like to
thank our guest tonight, Kate Chassey, for coming in and
being awesome for hours one and two. We'd also like
to thank the guy you hear right there, Ron bumbaflopt Doll.
He's them in and rocks us in and out of

(02:52:42):
every show, telling us to never say never again, because yes,
the phenomena is real, which means anything and everything is possible.
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Speaker 3 (02:53:33):
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Speaker 1 (02:53:33):
This is not a goodbye farewell to all you space travelers.
We'll be doing this thing, same time, same place. We'll
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