Aug. 21/25 - UFO Court with Courtney Marchesani - Spaced Out Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
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Marcasani is here. We are in roll call on our
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our website. We have an amazing UFO show tonight going
behind the curtain. Courtney Marcasani is here to give us

(02:45):
the latest updates on everything from the latest UFO hearings,
to politicians talking tough, movies like Age of Disclosure, and
so much more than In our number three, it's a
busy one. We have Swamp Dweller kicking things off. Timmy James,
will be here for the shortened abbreviated UFO Report. It's

(03:05):
Dave one on one night, and it's the weird news
of the week. So let's get right to it, shall we.
Courtney Marcussani is an author, researcher, and intuitive who has
become an important voice in today's UFO conversation. Known for
her insightful approach to consciousness and the unexplained, she explores

(03:26):
how human perception, intuition, and altered states of awareness connect
to the UFO mystery. She blends her background and mental
health and wellness with her research into anomalist phenomena, offering
a unique perspective that bridges science, spirituality, and live experience. Yes,
she's on this show quite a bit because we rely
on her to bring us the latest and greatest UFO news.

(03:49):
Working on the UFO story, she is very much in
tune with the people who are playing behind the scenes,
names and voices you may not recognize, but that's what
makes her good. She'll never give up a source like
any good journalist should, and she is here though, to
help bring the age of disclosure forward. Let's bring her

(04:09):
on in, Courtney Marcussani, it is always good to have
you here on spaced out Radio? How are you my friend?

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Hey Dave, it's great to be back. I'm so glad
you asked me to come on.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I miss you well, we miss you too. And you
know what I would say over the last year and
a half, between you, Nicole, sakicch Grant Cameron, you three
are the most requested guests that we have each other.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
That's great and every yes, love it, love it.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
I love it that the Sor family wants to hear
more and what's happening and catching up.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
It's like having a conversation with your family.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well that's that means a lot to us too, because
you are like family to us around here, and it's
absolutely amazing for people listening in for the first time
who may not know yours story. You're an experiencer. You're
somebody who has jumped on this UFO story ever since
it really took off in twenty seventeen, and you have

(05:10):
built literally an encyclopedia of contacts at people chatting with
you because you're not afraid to go ask questions and
a lot of people don't have that and they rely
on you to grab that information. How did it all happen.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I found myself first getting invited to conferences that weren't
publicly announced, you know, months in advance, like people would
just talk, Hey, there's this important conference coming up.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
You know.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
That was the that was the Archives of the Impossible
in twenty twenty two. I heard about that before it
was happening. So I was watching and waiting and I
looked when it was announced who was going to be there.
And my line of research from even before my UFO
encounter with my daughter was, you know, psychic phenomenon, because

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I had had those experiences and I had been looking
into it for years and years and years. And then
I noticed the name at the conference was ed May.
And Ed May used to be the program manager for
that program after how put off, let's just say, retired,
So then ed May came in. So I went to

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that conference specifically because I wanted to meet Ed May.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
So this magical thing happens.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
I get to have him like an audience with him
for like two days, asking him all my questions about everything.
I even got to see his slides and we discussed
adding this thing which he talked about, which was called
you know, like augmented augmented decision, and so he wrote,
we wrote this whole one part of his last slide

(06:47):
in his presentation because I said I would like to
know more about this. So that's kind of how it happens.
It's somewhat synchronistic, but it's always based on a long
line or area of research, wanting to meet that person
who has more knowledge that I would say, that's the
crux of those of those meetings and networking and whatever.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
And people are.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Always so kind and generous. They're always like, oh yeah,
I could put you in touch, or you just happen
to be there at that specific conference. I got to
meet Ed May and Jacques Philet and Jeffrey Kreipel and
Diana Pasoka.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
So it's just it's just.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Years of going out into the scene and meeting people.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Since then, you have developed a number of contacts through
your work, through social media, attending events, just getting on
the phone and doing it the old fashioned way and
having conversation. You know, why did you take this subject
so literally that and as matter of fact as you do,

(07:52):
Because so many people they could read a news article
or watch a podcast or listen to one and they'll
be like, oh, well, I feel up to date, but
you needed more. You have this drive to try and
figure out why this is going on, who's covering it up?
You're like trying to solve a mystery like in the
game of Clue. Why are you doing this?

Speaker 5 (08:14):
I think it's one part character flaw, you know, just
like everybody else, you know, working to try to solve
a problem, even a small problem from your angle of
the universe. And after we had that encounter in twenty fifteen,
it was life changing. So I had that, you know,
question brought up to me recently, like why are you

(08:36):
doing this?

Speaker 6 (08:37):
You know, what are you changing the world?

Speaker 5 (08:41):
And so I do think UAPs are a life changing issue.
But when somebody outside the field says something like that,
like what are you doing to create the change? I
really do feel like at times along the way, I've
had that interface with myself like is this worth it?

Speaker 6 (09:00):
I do think we still can create the change.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Despite the fact that everybody is saying disclosure is done.
I still think that there is some work to be done.
And so until I feel that feeling go away, then
I'll keep with it. I'm not gonna I'm not going
to spend every minute of every day, but I still
think there's some work that can be done and good progress.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
What is the progress? What is the story for people
who may not wonder what's or know what's going on,
or wonder why we're putting so much effort and passion
into this. What is the story out there? Because when
people think UFOs, they think flying saucers, they think aliens,

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you know, movies like Close Encounter of the Third Kind.
I'm not talking with skeptics who are all about you know,
Little Green Man, anal probing and and swamp gas. I'm
not talking about that. I'm talking about people who literally
have an intrigue but may not go in depth, you know,
to me and many others, there's two. I think we

(10:03):
need to separate ufology because you have the area of
the experiencer who has had this unbelievable encounter as just
trying to figure out why then, but then there's the
deep dark side of eufology and you kind of stray
that line on both sides.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
I was talking to somebody today who's pretty much you know,
gotten out, real real high profile guide. Had a long
heart to heart with him today, and he described it
as swimming through dark waters.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
I'm done swimming.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Through the dark waters, and so you know, you do
have this pass through because there's an eighty year cover up.
You know, that is the main issue, is there has
been an eighty year cover up. Even in the Age
of Disclosure, you have all these witnesses talking about the
eighty year cover up. Now, after the screening of Ages Disclosure,
there are a bunch of really critical articles from the

(10:58):
mainstream media taking it apart and saying, Okay, you've got
the witnesses, but there's still no evidence. So it comes
down to that. So, because I think the lynchpin issue
is the breakdown between the executive and legislative branch of
our US government. And that's kind of where it is,
and you can see it and identify it, and there's

(11:20):
all these people speaking to it, and then you can't
even get people into a skiff to testify to a
legacy program.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
You have this blockade and it's maddening.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
And so I think that's the real issue right now
in present day, everybody's aware of it.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
People have heard about it.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Lou's book was a bestseller for many weeks, so people
have read that and they're read up and they have
some knowledge. And so it's about education and knowledge, but
it's also about that blockade and breaking through it with
a lobbying effort, which has been pretty successful so far.
We've had two hearings and now we've got the third.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, let's all get excited for that.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Oh, come on, don't be a don't be a Debbie downer.
This could be some really great progress made. I mean,
I will say, you know, when they put through the
first UAPDA, you know, it was stripped and so now
it's just like a Records Act underneath the NDAA, you know,

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the big defense bill that comes up every year. And
so there was some adoption from that legislation. They took
out the presidential panel they you know, they took out
eminemic domain and so right now there's all these back
channel discussions happening between the people and these various organizations
and the movers and the shakers for more adoption of

(12:44):
more legislation, more witness testimony, and you know, maybe passage
of that U A PDA that's been pretty controversial. There
was another piece of legislation proposed. It hasn't gone to
the floor or everything or anything, but there is movement.
There's more people getting involved. It's like all hands on deck.

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So don't be down. Don't be down.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I'm not down. I'm cautious.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Sure, I'm cautious, totally fair, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I you know, as a journalist, I cannot take sides
on this, you know, But as an experiencer, it's like
I don't want to hear the same thing. There's that
cringe worthy moment of knowing that we're going back in,
you know, and it's like, yeah, it's like what are
we doing here? And how are we doing this? Why

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are we doing this? And there's a million and four
questions you know that need to be asked regarding it.
So if I sound a little smug about it, that
would be why.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
Hey, well hold up, let's do a callback.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Because at that first hearing, I was there and I
remember coming on Sor with Bob maguire and a few
other people, the guy from Canada, I can't remember his
name right now, the skeptic guy. What's his name, It'll
come to me anyway. We came on and did a
round table and Melinda Leslie was there too. So you
have all these people that are experts in their field,

(14:12):
including one probably you know, very verified skeptic, all discussing
the hearing. What came out of it, the IRAD money,
the way that they're able to potentially illegally move money
within the government, two black contractors underneath the research money,
the notification system around that, how flawed it is. I mean,

(14:33):
we got so much information out of that first hearing,
not only that, the recognition and the testimony of David
Crush saying there's a back engineered program.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
Dave.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
So I think that there's still things to be positive about.
I understand your skepticism and suspicion. We've been through a
lot in the last two years since that first hearing.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
But we covered it. Oh we did, We covered it.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
We did. Yeah. You know, I think though after the
last one or the last two, I should say I'm
just a little frustrated, you know, I just am and
I don't see how it's benefiting the cause. You know.
And look, I'm saying this, and let me just clarify

(15:21):
my point. I'm saying this that I really like how
you know, after that last hearing, a couple of the
congress people came out and said that was a waste
of time, you know, you know that they weren't answering questions.
I mean, annapolinea Luna still will not let go of
skiff flu you.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Know, And well, yeah, that was highly inappropriate and really
doesn't establish or foster trust.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
I want to point something out to you in terms
of a parallelism between the entertainment projects that came out
right and the last year versus the year before with
the hearing. There have been a lot of entertainment, you know, movies,
documentaries right getting everything out into the community, more podcasts

(16:10):
covering it different angles, people with different expertise. But here's
one of the things I picked up when I was
at SEUL.

Speaker 6 (16:18):
Eric Davis was there.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
He was there and we watched the program together with Nicole.
Actually we all sat in the front row and watched
it together, and Jack versus our Fadi was in there.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
We were bookends.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
It was Nicole, Jack Sarfati, Eric Davis, and myself. And
so we're watching the premiere write a screening, a private
screening essentially for soul only, and I'm sitting.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Next to Eric Davis and during the.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Portion where Jason Sands's testimony came up, he starts saying,
Pete's Pete's Now, I had never heard that word before
and I didn't actually know what it means. But it's
the presidential as This is a very important thing for
people who are trying to understand the legislation of what's
going on and the grappling between the Executive Department and

(17:08):
the legislative department.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
Okay, So I just want to point it out.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
I don't want to go and do a deep dive
onto it, but I want people to understand it because
I heard it from the horse's mouth and this is
you know, Eric Davis, who was in the Wilson famous
Davis documents. So he basically said, during Jason's portion of
the program, pets and peeds is peads and it's essentially

(17:34):
this presidential authority.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Okay. So I was doing some research.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
On this on Pete's and what it is and how
it's used, and this is Eric Davis's whole argument for
why the programs are kept secret. It's this presidential authority
with certain executive powers and it's only usually used in
like huge disasters, know, natural events, nuclear war. But he's

(18:03):
basically saying this is the carve out and how they're
hiding the programs and it's totally out of Congressional oversight. So, Sir,
for anybody who's interested in how the legacy programs had
been hidden for the last eighty years, look into the
PEA DS, the PEDS. So he basically said that this
is where all the special access programs are hidden for

(18:25):
the Legacy program And Eric Davis just did an interview.
I put it on my ex timeline for people to
watch him talk about presidential authority and powers and how pets.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
He doesn't bring up pets.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
I'm telling you to look that way, but it is
essentially the way that they've kept it hidden. So here's
an example pit he gave, which I thought was really
interesting about SAPs and information and presidents and presidential powers.
He basically said, the LBJ after Kennedy was killed, okay,

(18:58):
was read in on the SR seventy one. Okay, because
he was president and when he re ran for president
this was classified information. He basically acknowledged the SR seventy
one in his whole defense strategy going forward and got elected,
and he declassified it.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
He said, he just blurted it out.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
It wasn't like an official declassification, but he acknowledged it
and he used it in his political power. So watch
the interview that I posted, Eric Davis goes through a
nice breakdown of all the executive stuff, how it has
been used or abused or you know, misunderstood. It's very good,
but peads is one of the ways. And so when

(19:39):
I when I listened to his interview and having heard
him say pets, I was like, this is fascinating because
it's a breakdown between the executive branch and the legislative
and Congress.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
That's where it is.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Do you think then looking into these next set of
hearings as we got about four minutes to go before
the break, and we'll talk about the hearings when we
come back from the break, because it is one of
the things that I wanted to speak with you tonight about. Okay,
can you think then that these hearings are going to
be movers and shakers or do you think that these
hearings next will be something that we've seen before, but

(20:15):
just maybe different voices.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
I was originally very skeptical about who was going to testify.
I thought it would probably be like a watering down,
you know, after Luella Zando. But I do think that
Burlison put out a statement in just the last couple
of days that they have one guy who has had
multiple events, witnessed multiple events and investigated them, So that

(20:40):
tells me it might be a UAP Task Force member.
Potentially they're talking about firsthand witnesses. Chris Mellan has put
out basically a statement for the next hearing that we
only want firsthand witnesses, that information is out there and
clarifications of what a first hand was witness is, you know,

(21:01):
to the detail, because when he took over the UAPDF,
he came out and said, this is the new classification
of witness that we're looking for for the hearings. So
I've heard that it was two firsthand witnesses, and the
people that I've talked about, the questions they're having is
are they going to be firsthand witnesses to the legacy program?

(21:22):
And so that's another distinction going into that next hearing
between the Skiffs and what's being said about the skiff
cancelation in April to what's being brought forward now. So
most people who have either testified written a you know,
written testimony to Arrow or people that are watching that
is it going to be a legacy program continue on

(21:44):
or not? I don't think so that's what I think
is dying on the vine.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Actually, there is word that there are going to be
a number of new witnesses coming forward, people with first
hand information. Basically what Eric Burrow soon said, it is
no more story time from people who saw a friend
of a friend of a friend, you know, having this
information or saying these words about UFO point. And I'm curious,

(22:12):
do you think we know any of these people so
far that just haven't been outed in that category yet?

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Well, I think that there is one compelling story that
emerged right before it was week before last. I don't
know if you've captured it yet or not, but one
of the witnesses who's a citizen scientist, got a piece
that fell on the ground, had a first hand experience
with I think it was a black triangle.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
You have to go back and check.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
But this this witness had gone through the whole process, right,
He had no classification or clearances, but he actually had
potentially like meta materials. So this is where this kind
of all connects for me, is you have these ways
to report. They took him seriously, He went through this
whole process, even went into a skiff, and then his

(23:03):
reason for backing out from testifying in this next hearing
as a witness was because of what's going on in
Congress and the legislation and the eminent domain that he
would potentially lose his piece of hardware or whatever tech
he may have developed from it. So that's one of
the concerns that's scaring people off from testifying. But to

(23:25):
your point, I do think that having firsthand witnesses is
important to establish credibility.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
For this whole issue.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
But there are some serious legal wranglings around all that.
Depending on what you have, what you witnessed, and if
you have anything in your possession.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, let's continue this conversation after the break, because it
is going to be very very important. I'm highly skeptical.
I know I'm such an open WU guy, but I'm
highly skeptical about the hearings coming up, and I hope
they aren't as controlled. Look, I want the government to
and these Congress people to get the job done. I

(24:03):
want them to know, continue the flow with acting tough
with their words. Let's see them act tough in these hearings.
Let's see what we could get out of that. Because
I think where the public continues to get failed is
the fact that everything has to be in a skiff.
Everything needs to be in a skiff. Courtney Marcus Sani.

(24:25):
She is one of our resident researchers. She's amazing and
we're going to listen to her breakdown of the hearings
coming up September ninth on UFOs. We'll be right back,

(24:51):
all right. We are clear, good star.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
We have so much to talk about, but we can't
talk about it on air. So I have like so
much stuff to like put a pin in with you.
So I hope we get a chance to connect offline,
you know, and go through some scenarios of what's going on.
There's so much happening. There's some amazing things happening too,

(25:16):
which I want to get to and want to mention
as well. Sure, specifically the Tedesco brothers. I got to
put in a couple questions last night to John Todesco,
and I watched another interview just before I came on
with somebody who went out with the Tedescos and has
some breaking news.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
So that's very cool. We'll get to that. We can
do that.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Oh wow, Nicole showed up there. She is it's all
a dog and pony show of look louns, crooks, and worse.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
The lovely intellented number one Nicole Sekch. There she is, everybody.
Let's give her a hat tip right there, give her
a hat tip. Mm hmm, Derek the woo poo. How
you doing?

Speaker 6 (26:07):
How long do we have?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
We have about four minutes? Okay, dirty filth, how about
a thumbs up if you don't mind. There you go.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
She gave us a laugh emoji. So she still loves us. Okay,
I love her.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
That's I love her.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
That's that's proof.

Speaker 8 (26:38):
And the pudding right there, she gave us a laugh loons.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm a looty, a Canadian Lney.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Well, much of what she predicted has come true, and
I can back up a lot of it with the
research and the information that's coming to light.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
So she called a lot of this a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yes, I would give you I would. I would say
that's correct, all right, super crazy. How you doing, Lex Diaz,
Nice to see you, Good morning, body Tech. Thanks for
coming on in, Davy crotch kick, how are you? It
never feels good? By the way, Hey, filthy, you'll like

(27:21):
this story?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Story? Yeah, I like stories.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
So before tonight's show, I was having a game of
mini sticks with my boy. Okay, I took a wrist shot,
just nailed them right in the knackers, right, And here
he is on the ground like, oh, I that hurt.
That hurt. You know what I did cause.

Speaker 9 (27:48):
The little old cross check for good measure?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
No, no, the little foam ball that we were using,
it's like a hard foam, it's really bouncy. It trickled
in behind him. So while he's on the floor, you know,
wreathing around, I went and scored. Yeah, I would put
the ball in the net. And he looks at me.
He's like, that doesn't count. I said, there was no

(28:12):
whistle on the play. I said, that's a fair goal.
One nothing, Sarah, Jan, how are you dear? Yep, yep.
So we went for a face off. We went for
a face off. I was up eight five going into

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the third. Okay, I lost eleven nine.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
Fall asleep, Dave.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
You know what I realized is my reflexes are not
as fast as they used to be. Knackers, that's right,
nicol knackers, nads plus Snickers knackers, yep, yep. And then
he cross checked me. Good, yeah, like you a little bastard.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Right, What can we say for swear words because you
just said one.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
Well, we're not on the radio right on the FCS.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
We're not on the radio right now, so nothing you
can't say.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Now right now. You could swear all you wanted, but yeah,
get it all right now out now. You know, Hey,
why you know that's why we sometimes allow filthy to
turn the mute button off.

Speaker 9 (29:42):
Yeah, wow, he dropped it.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
I'm glad it wasn't me, but you know I'm famous
for my f BOMs, my indiscriminate f bolls.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
All right, what one second, Tim wants to hear you
say poop?

Speaker 6 (29:59):
I won't do it. That's beneath me, Tim, and you
ought to know better.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
All right, we got ten seconds. Big thank you to
Bob Thorson, Pam Harris, MELWD forty and Cosmic Joe for
the super chats and no swearing now because we're going
on the radio. Here we go with the second half

(30:36):
hour spaced out radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott.
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Side of Ufology. The new hearings coming up September ninth.
Are you excited? Are you not? How do you think
it's going to play out? Well, let's ask Courtney here, Courtney,
thank you so much. We're apparently going to hear some
new voices from first hand eyewitnesses to this phenomena being
hidden behind the curtains of the United States military bases

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and elsewhere. What do you know so far about what's
coming up?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Well, I was told by one source, you know, two
firsthand witnesses, and they were basically talking about the Legacy program.
Like I said, before we went to break, so would
they be testifying on the Legacy Program's existence?

Speaker 6 (32:05):
And I thought, no, it's an open question.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
We might see somebody else who might be a legacy
E five person maybe or has done something along those lines.
So mixing it up in the witness panel, I do
think we will know one of the people.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
I don't know who they all are.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
I've heard rumors and conjecture and names be put up,
but all the names that actually have been put up
a pretty good one.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
So I am excited about that. For a while, I was.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Feeling a lot of malaise about it, and I was
saying to myself, you know, this is done when you
can't get people into skifts, you know, essentially for months
or going on a year, and all these wrangling around
being able to testify basically in a closed setting, you know,
it is maddening. It's frustrating. It's for the people who

(32:59):
are working hard to put this through. It's a it's
a blockage, it's a roadblock. And so when the Skift
through Fluke thing came up, you know on Joe Rogan,
it was interesting to see everybody's responses because most people
wanted all these parties to come together. The problem has
been with new accusations, A new round of allegations are

(33:22):
coming around very publicly that you know, David Grush was
controlling the whole process, sending emails to you know, other
people like Lou and Chris Mellan basically saying do you
have your clearance? Who still has clearances? What are you
gonna you know, testify? And there's been some really loud

(33:43):
and very disturbing allegations being made about you know, laws
being and broken, people telling Lou not to testify, that
being documented and being you know, very real. And so
you have to ask yourself coming into this next hearing,
why would somebody tell Lou not to testify? Why would

(34:04):
David Grush be controlling all of these witnesses being in
Burlison's office and helping with the Secrets Task Force. That's
another question. So I did send an email to him
and said what was stated and asked him to please
reply or put out a response to clear the error
or to clear these issues up so people feel free

(34:26):
to testify because it's either obstruction or witness tampering or
potential perjury. So those three legal issues are the law
and the fact that that kind of hanky panky might
be going on amongst these you know, very important witnesses
is one of the reasons why the whole whistleblower. You know,

(34:49):
part of this has been set up to people have
the safety and the freedom to testify if they have clearance.
But that's where everything gets all jumbled up, is the clearances,
the level of parents, executive powers I mentioned peds, and
how this has all been hidden underneath these SAP programs
that are not even foilable, you know, they're just you know,

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behind the iron curtains.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
So I think that all those things have.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Created mistrust and let people down, and now people are
thinking that the process is broken. I don't think it is.
I think that there's still going to be revelations in
the hearing. I'm excited for it, and I am crossing
my fingers that these guys get together and use diplomacy
with one another to get into the skiffs and get
it done.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I like the way Eric Burlison is talking right now.
It's like he's had enough. But we've heard that before
from Senator Jillibrand, we've heard it from Tim Burschhett, We've
heard it from Nancy Mace. They all seem to take
a turn in acting real tough going into these hearings
a few weeks beforehand. What makes you think that this

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is going to be a little bit different rather than
another rollover.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I think the new angle and anybody who's analyzing what
the White House statement has been that we have this
technology that.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Can basically defeat space and.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Time and has this advanced you know, this advanced science
behind it, and that they want to champion that coming out.
That's one change in the wind that I think people
have been closely following. The drones, right, the drone incursions
that happened over Air Force Bass over the US multiple

(36:37):
other places around the country. And then not only that,
the companies in the UAP world like Skywatcher and little
known fact that Peter Thiel has a drone company as well.
So you know, you see the shifting from the legacy
program for actual technology. It's a tech grap by the
tech bros. That's what everybody says. It's the tech burros

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going for a tech grab. Elon, you know, Peter thele
even though he denies having anything to do with UFOs
at all, you know, there's a clear pattern of it.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
And so there has been.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
Some speculation about this tech grab and getting technologies out
to these companies or to Elon or to Peter thel
or other interested parties who are high level and tighten
with Trump that they want to focus on the technology
and transfer technology over and so the legal stuff all

(37:33):
around that is like registration of technology that you might have.
Danny Sheen has talked about that in the past, about
royalties and these contractors making out with millions and millions
and millions of dollars to have advantages. This looks like
an open and open process underneath the Trump administration and
the theory of power essentially that's coming from that is

(37:55):
that Trump would essentially be rubber stamping some of these
negociations and that some of it would be happening in Congress,
and that's why they want people to testify so they
can transfer the technology legally to certain parties.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
That's a big, big statement right there.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
If true, it's certainly one angle that should be being
looked at as the advanced aerospace technology industry of what
UAPs are. You and I have had this conversation many
times before about UAPs and drones and the difference between
and so what I'm seeing maybe happening, and it is

(38:36):
a bold statement, is that maybe this White House statement
about science and technology and having it and that it's
amazing and wanting to transfer that out.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
And this was all under the DOGE when the DOGE
was big.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
They want to prop up American industry and business and
they made a public statement about it. So you have
to follow up on how that's happening, and especially congressionally,
if there's any tie ins, need to look at it.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I really think you need to look at it too,
you know. But who are some of the names that
are being bandied about here? And then I have a follow.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Up to that, which names regarding going.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Into the hearings, Oh.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Which specific names.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
The one name that has been bandied about that I
think is really interesting if it does come about is
somebody who's not talked about that much.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
But he was the SSIIC.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Basically liaison who helped Jake Barber initially like come out
from a black project. And then he was supposed to
like a CIA intelligence cutout to work with these various
black programs. And I can't say his name because he
is protected. I have contacted him and you know, sent

(39:50):
emails to him and things, and he's been connected with
Jake Barber. So he's been one person that's proposed and
when he comes out, everybody will know who he is.
Jake Barber's name was put up as somebody who is
likely going to be one of the first hand witnesses
because of his experience with the egg and also somebody
who may have done some investigations and a black project.

(40:12):
So those are two people that I have heard might
be the two first handers.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Is David Grush calling the shots on who these people
may be?

Speaker 6 (40:23):
I don't know. I mean, you really don't know what's
going on behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
But because he has this lynchpin roll between Burlison's office,
right and Luna and these other various people who are
on that essential task Force, and they were given like
a six month extension to go beyond what.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
They were already given.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
But you have to consider it's a big, huge group
with tasks, with a major task that's JFK, that's MLK,
it's UAPs, and so they lumped it all together. So
the division of labor and how that is breaking down
day to day. I'm sure he's guiding. Everybody says he's guiding.
He's guiding the process, He's telling them where to look.

(41:08):
He's been a huge help. But I don't know about
that other question. I can't answer that because we don't
have a window into people's souls and the day to
day of what they're doing. But the allegation that he
was basically communicating so fiercely with the witnesses about the
skift and the controlling aspect of it. There's been two
things that if people have said about that, they've said,

(41:29):
David Grush likes to control everything. That's the way he is.
He knows the way he wants to go, he assesses
things the way he does, and he wants to be
the one to lead the charge. So potentially, but not
because of any kind of corruption or collusion or any
of those things. That's just it sounds like the way
he is. But two, the advantage to having him be

(41:51):
somebody who might be having like hands on essentially like
a board member. He's not, but he could guide and
throw us the lines of research and get the records
out that would document it.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
And I have a third thing.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
I also think he wants to be vindicated and have
vindication for the things that he said in the first
hearing that have.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
Not been verified. So I think it's a personal mission
as well.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Many people are used to hearing the names Lou Elisondo,
Chris Mellan, you know, to name a couple here, do
you think that they are kind of on the outside
looking into this project now? They were the face of
the UFO franchise for so long, and now all of
a sudden, it just seems like all of these new

(42:37):
faces are coming on in Louz had a couple of
staffoos over time with you know, with well, let's face it,
the unidentified lighting phenomena, the unidentified irrigation phenomena, you know,
missing the hear the skiff hearing, you know, which he
had already made other commitments. So I mean that's a

(42:58):
he said, she said kind of thing. But do you
think that they're maybe on the outs now with the
political side of this topic and it's moved on to
other people.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
I think I have to flip that in my mind
in a sense, not just the being disenfranchised or being disillusioned,
you know, through this whole process they've been carrying forward
with you know, control disclosure.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
But I also think there is.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
A really really nitty gritty thing about what they can
what they can testify to. I know a lot of
people are like they can go into any skiff, they
can go into walking to any person's office and give testimony.
But not if you have presidential authority, okay, under a
Title ten or a Title fifty executive order to do

(43:46):
certain things. And not only that, the other aspect is
videos were leaked right, videos were leaked out essentially underneath
that White House administration. How was it done right? Who
was complete us it in it? What classification levels did
those things have? And so there's always been this caveat

(44:06):
or like umbrella of immunity that these people should be
given immunity, that you know, their NDA should be wiped away.
And all these processes along the step of the way
have been allowed to a certain degree, for entertainment projects,
for testifying in court. But you have to wonder to yourself,
and this is just how I'm coming at it. You
have to wonder to yourself if people warning off Lou,

(44:29):
you know, not to testify, why why would that.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
Be the case?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Well, and that's exactly, and I mean, but has he
worn out his welcome regarding his public knowledge of this subject?
I mean, he was the golden child for a long time,
a number of years. You know, he basically was the
successor to Tom DeLong, who wanted to be the face
of the franchise, Tom DeLong, the lead singer of Blink

(44:57):
one eighty two and his Failed to the Stars Academy.
You know, I mean, there's that, there's the fact that
you know, his book, even though it was a New
York Times bestseller, seemed to upset a lot of people
within the intelligence and you and the governmental side of
the UFO community, like you know, I mean people who

(45:19):
are very upset with the way he said things. Eric Davis,
Jay Stratton, to name a couple, his his tour, his
his speaking tour that he was doing, sold out every time.
But you know, he he did make a couple of
snaffoos with photographs.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Well, and let's talk about the military community, who has
been very critical of you know, the history that was
written about. Not only that, but you know, the question
that remains, the one question that remains that nobody's ever
really answered, which I think is like for probably Lou
would give a lot of indication if it was revealed,

(45:59):
is who hired him after he left the army. He was,
you know, brought into a remote viewing program. He named
who that man was in his book, and so he
was basically tapped like a lot of other people are
to go through this remote viewing process, So how did
that transfer happen?

Speaker 6 (46:19):
So I think that if that was.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Really truly known and disclosed, would vindicate Lou. That's just
my own personal opinion assessing everything and all the information.
But yes, the veteran community, some of them have been
very vocal and outspoken that the things that he have
said does not line up specifically his combat that you know,

(46:41):
combat history, and so, you know, I look at all
those things, and I watched the videos and I try
to understand what the veterans are saying, and they give
very good justification for why they're upset, and they're you know,
they're calling it stolen valor you know.

Speaker 6 (46:57):
I don't know. I don't know, and I don't weigh
in on the those things.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
But when I look at the executive level the military
and the history and the experience that is never mentioned.
Who hired him outside of the army anywhere?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
But do you think after being accused of having skiff
flu that maybe he's on the outs and they no
longer want him to testify.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
I don't think he'll ever be on the outs because
of all the things that happen it's like the government
having something and knowing something they'll never disgrace lou Ever,
you have to look at that whole pattern now, the
people around him, the relationships, the dysfunction that's gone on,
the lack of communication, the power struggles. I think that's

(47:48):
where the breakdown is that you're talking about. They're not
a united front anymore so who he's aligned with at
this stage. Anybody could take a guess and see what's
going on and assess that for themselves and figure out
who's still friends and who's still working, has a working relationship.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
What do you see coming out of the hearings. This
will be my final question about the hearings.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
I think that we'll see if there's been any inroads
made into the Legacy programmer, if that's stalled, and if
it has stalled, then it's probably going to be a
dead issue. And I also think the alternative hypothesis will
probably happen where there's a technology transfer, will be aware,
they'll disclose or release some technology that they feel that

(48:33):
they can basically sell to buyers. That's what I think.
It's all about the technology. That's what I think. The
new technology, the advanced stuff that they want to release.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
All right, let's go on to our next topic, which
is billionaire Peter Thiel. Now, every time we hear about
this guy, I mean, he allegedly has nothing that he
wants to do with ufology, but every now and again
we hear something up that he could be spending some
of his bajillions of dollars on, and it regards UFOs.

(49:07):
It started a few years ago where he funded Enigma
Labs to be a research company that had nothing to
do with the government, but somehow wiggled their way into
a lot of government type of speaking engagements. Then we
hear that, you know, one of his underlings, gentleman by

(49:28):
the name of Jesse Michaels, kind of comes out of
nowhere and takes over basically the YouTube story of this
becoming a major UFO influencer UAP influencer online and gathering
a bunch of big named UFO intrigued people from YouTube
to kind of hop on the saddle with them and
ride with them. And then now we're kind of hearing

(49:51):
then you kind of brought this up just recently, and
Tim James, our UFO reporter, mentioned this on the show
earlier this week that Peter Theal may have been a
backer financially for the documentary Age of Disclosure. What's going
on with Peter Theal?

Speaker 6 (50:09):
Well, you know, I thought everybody knew that. I mean,
that was a you know, thing on my mind that
I thought.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
Was just accepted along with the production of the Age
of Disclosure, because it was talked about, you know, by
people in that you know, in that production.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
As you know, it just come a knowledge.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
So when I dropped that on Psychoactivo, you know, with
with Pavel, I didn't think that there was going to
be this huge backlash or even that people people didn't know,
or that there would be a categorical denial by Thel
that he funded it. So it's opened it up like
a beehive of what's the story here and why wouldn't

(50:51):
this be acknowledged if he funded it? And so there's
a whole history around why people would be.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
Upset if he did.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
But let's just go back to the other part that
you mentioned that he funded Enigma. Okay, Now, when that
came out and Enigma was established, I thought he did
fund it. But everybody is now saying, no, no, he's
never been involved with UFOs and it's not his thing,
and Jesse Michaels offered him to come in on a project,

(51:20):
you know. I think it was maybe with hal put Off,
and he said, no, he wasn't interested. Or maybe it
was with Greer. No, he's not interested in that. And
so the party line, you know, from that group is
that no, he's not involved with anything, doesn't want to
be involved with anything. So answer the first question, did
he fund a Enigma?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
I heard that he had funded between five and eight
million dollars into Enigma.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Okay, so we've got an amount.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Okay, Well, I talked with a distributor in LA through
a friend of mine, and she said that he doesn't
have to report it, Dan Fhair, it doesn't have to
report if he got funding from Thel or his funders.
They don't really care about that. On the line items
for the movie. They just go out and sell it.

(52:09):
So right up until I was going to the age
of disclosure, I got notes that were like.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
Look for Peter Theal on the credits, you know, or whatever.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
And I was waiting actually for the credits to see
if he was at thanks you know, to him, and
I got distracted because all these people were talking about
UFOs in my ear so I eventually, you know, looked
away and I didn't see the end of the credits.
I didn't see it when I was there in the
theater and I stayed and watch you know, most of it.

(52:38):
It was only the very last couple of minutes that
I that I took my attention away.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
So obviously, if he funded it, but.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
He didn't want to have to let people know, and
he wanted to be a private donation or something, then
he that's his choice. He doesn't have to just declare it,
or the movie doesn't have to disclose it in any
kind of financial bottom line process going into distribution. So
you know, that's just going to remain a question mark,

(53:09):
you know, I think, but it was alluded to do
I think he did.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
Yeah, I still think he did.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Yes, I still think he did, because in talks in
twenty twenty four, people were telling me that he did,
and that was a part of the big excitement around it,
and that Dan Farrah was looking for a theatrical release
and that you know, Dan Farrah also had connection to
Spielberg and so it was going to be this high profile,
well funded project.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
That's kind of how it was explained to me.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
It had gone through the SSIIC the Intelligence Committee for
approval for all the whistleblowers, testimonies or the witnesses to
be in there. So the fact that there's been a
category of goal denial now and the movie's been held up,
people do have questions like, why is this movie putting
the brakes on disclosure. No, I don't think the movie's
putting in the on disclosure, but I think it really

(54:02):
would have helped disclosure along the way. And the fact
that it's being delayed, it's not newsworthy anymore. It's not like,
you know, the hot stuff and breaking news. So the
longer the delay, the more stale it gets.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Well, you know what, We're going to see how it happens.
We're going to continue the Peter Theo conversation because there
is more questions to go down that road. Courtney Marcussani
is our guest tonight on spaced Out Radio. She is
a citizen journalist researcher when it comes to the topic
of UFOs all around the US, and she likes to
go behind the curtains, as I like to say, to

(54:39):
find out what is going on. And we love it
when she's here because UFO court is in session.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
This is spaced out radio with Oaks A.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Scott. All right, we have about six minutes. Okay, all right,
dirty Philts, we're gonna turn this bad boy over to
you because you're awesome that way.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah, thanks Dave. You may be seated.

Speaker 9 (55:22):
Everybody gets up bare is it? Well, it's part of
the it's part of the story. This is page page
seven of Nightcrawlers Evening. So I have to I have
to grab the story and tell you, tell everybody how
it goes, because it has to go in chronological order.

(55:45):
So okay, oh, these are these are some little drawings
I did. It's the sixty ninth anniversary of the Hopkins
Hills Goblins today. And then here's the Goblin he's having
some sour slushy. And then we have the moth Man's

(56:05):
he enjoys his deep dish pizza, and obviously Carl's trying
to mooch some some slices off of them, and the
Gargoyle's just got his little pack of cat snacks, and
of course the gremlin wants to slice really bad because
he's a little pizza thief. He's actually stolen pizza before.

(56:28):
Thanks JSCO. Okay, I'll tell you here's the Here's night
Crawler's night out. So here goes night Crawler. He's going
out to meet Lady night Crawler UFO in the background
and everything. So he's sauntering through the city and on
the way there, goes through the cut, makes a little

(56:49):
short cut and he stops and looks at there's two
little zombannies at the basketball court and they're spray painting
a UFO on the back call there. So he waits
for the zomb bunnies to leave, and then he goes
and looks and he notices that there's some spray paint there,
and he investigates the spray painted UFO there, but he

(57:14):
realizes he's still gotta make up some time, so he
runs as fast as a little tiny night crawler legs
can take him, and there he goes sauntering to meet
Lady night Crawler. So he meets up with Nate Lady
knight Crawler. She happens to be the only person in
the city that owns a castle by the way, and

(57:36):
she's dressed up nice. They're going to go to the
Liquid Lounge and listen to some good music and dance
all night she's even got a little skull and crossbones
bow tie on today.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
So they go to the Liquid Lounge.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
Hi, Sandra. They go to the Liquid Lounge and dance
to Funker Vogue and it's the EB and probably some
skinny puppy or something. And after that, Night Crawler walks home,
walks Lady night Crawler home, and then he takes a
trip back and he notices that the spray cans are
still there and I haven't finished the last painting. But

(58:14):
he ends up spray painting Night Crawler and Lady night
Crawler with a little heart on the wall as well
before he goes home. How cute. So that's that's the story, everybody.
It's not quite done yet. I'm going to put it
into my into my third book I'm working on. Yes,
I'm on all types of social media to their tim

(58:34):
Mothman with Beard and Beard. So there we are. I'll
have to finish the next one, probably next week of
some sort. But if you have time and you're not
doing anything on Saturday at two pm Pacific, just plug
in cryptid cartoons with dirty filth and then it should
be on the spaced out radio page and I sit

(58:56):
there and draw cartoons for about an hour. Speaking of
Lady Nightcrawler, there's the plassified form of Lady Nightcrawler.

Speaker 7 (59:07):
Let me get there. See you look at that.

Speaker 9 (59:11):
It's quite the match to her and my My accomplice
that made this had a lot of difficulties with the
with the webbing on the skirt because she had to
peel out the in between pieces. So it's pretty neat dough.
So I hope everybody has a good rest of the night,

(59:31):
and I will see you guys in the future, hopefully Saturday.
I'll just make sure I get my pages back in
order here. Lady Nightcrawler is usually the DJ at the
Liquid Lounge and she also works at the local animal shelter.
It's time to go give the cat snacks now, not yet, dB,

(59:52):
I never let anybody down.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Well I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I Well, if that's what yet, Dave, if that's the
way you feel, you go for it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
I will.

Speaker 9 (01:00:04):
I'm going to give the cats of snacks rate now, Dave.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
Hey night, have a good nay, good nay.

Speaker 9 (01:00:13):
Have a good night, Courtney, Hey, Dave, everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
I just wanted to say somebody. I just caught somebody
in the chat that said that Peterfield did not fund Enigma,
that it was a friend of his and a filmmaker
and his wife, and so I just wanted everybody to
know that it was The person that he's mentioning is
Darren Aronofsky. Darren Aronofsky is a famous filmmaker, and Alice,

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his wife, is who that commenter said, you know, funded Enigma.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
So it's interesting because.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I'll get to that in a minute. Let's talk about
that on the air. All right, all right, Astro Fugitive,
how you doing. Good to see you. Thank you Bob,
Pam Mel and Joe for the great super check. Let's
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telling us the latest on the UFO story that's going
on behind the scenes, preparing for more hearings. And right

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before the break, we were talking about billionaire Peter Thel.
Does he have a connection to the UFO world. Now,
Seymour in our chat room said, Peter Thel was not
the person who funded Enigma Labs and associate and her
name is public was a majority funding mechanism. Now I
disagree with this comment because I've had three different sources

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that are very much in the background tell me that
Peter Thel was the moneyman or one of the money
men behind this project to the tune of five to
eight million dollars. Now, Courtney, what do you think.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Well, we saw the slide show you know that first
came out. It must have been twenty twenty one or
twenty twenty two with all the board the proposed board
for Enigma, And so here's how it connects for me.

Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
I'm just going to say my personal experience. No source is.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Given on this, but just what was told at that
time when Enigma was forming its board and its foundation
that people were approached. I just want to clarify, you
know what I've said on the last couple of interviews
that people were approached personal People that I know were
approached by either somebody who was in an intermediary for Peter

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Theil that wanted to fund their brand or their book
or a possible entertainment project. But besides that, okay, that aside,
then there were other people in the UFO community at
that time who had either written a book or were
journalists and they were approached by Peter Theele personally about

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getting into the UFO field. And so I think it
warrants questions to go back to the people that were
on those slides and who they were.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
Okay, that's very public, and then ask them yourself, ask
them yourself if Peter theal approached them and offered them
a deal essentially to cover UFOs and two of them
were on the Enigma Board, and I had heard from
people connected to those people that they were approached by

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him individually. So that's kind of what I go back.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
I look into the historical perspective and what we were
all talking about that time, and many of us and
people who were in fight Club, you know, the famous
fight club, they were saying, yeah, they were approached, and
some people turned the deal down and other people took it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
So it's always been behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
It's never been a formal announcement, and it's never been
public that he funded these individuals or asked them to
come on to the Enigma Board, but it was discussed.

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
That's my perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Do you think Peter Thiel is the modern day Robert
Bigelow who used to own Skinwalker Ranch.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
Yes, And that's where when Nicole was making her Crooks
Loons or worst comment. It goes back into that history
of all those different programs. You know, Bigelow was the
recipient of that first funding for at an actual UAP
carve out with dollars that went to an organization, and

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we know he was connected to Harry Reid and Harry
Reid pushed it through. We also know that Harry Reid
tried to make as AT a special access program that
the Pentagon didn't approve, And so you do have to
have footholds into all these different ways to understand this
issue and who funds what?

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
That was public?

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
That was a public, you know, funded program and he
was the contractor.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Why do you think Peter Thiel, billionaire extraordinaire already tied
into government defense programs at many others. You know, he
made his money off of PayPal with Elon Musk, so
you know there's a tight relationship there. Why do you
think he has such an interest in the UFO subject.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
Well, I think he's an experiencer, That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Is he an experiencer or is he someone who sees
the endgame for the technology that might be hidden there,
or maybe he knows the technology is hidden there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I don't think those things are mutually exclusive. I don't
think they have to be completely separate on the diagram,
But I think the only.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
Way to.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
You know, sess that out is the people who hope
and following his investments over the you know, the long
time that he's been successful and that he does have
an interest in it. We know people who know him,
who are in the fields, who are high level people.
I mean Gary Nolan knows him, Diana Pasalka knows him,
and so they have relationships with him. So it shouldn't

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be like a taboo subject. You know, the way the
money flows, it really doesn't matter when it's private industry
and things, but when it comes to the government, you
could understand why he wouldn't want to be perceived as
going for the advanced tech because it could potentially be
a conflict of interest because he has Palenteer.

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
But it's all the way they set up their companies.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
It's all the way that they you know, approach these
individuals that you know know about the program. So do
I think I connection exists absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yes, is going to be good for ufology or is
it going to be dangerous for you?

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Well that's been the classic argument.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
I mean, even when we had our sor chats on
our Facebook group that so many people were involved in
so many high level people. It was probably split down
the middle where you have people filmmakers, academics who thought
his involvement and his interest in his investments was a
great thing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
To move disclosure forward. Then there's the other side.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Of it politically that people thought, you know, he had
you know, entrenched himself so much into all of it
and was moving it so forward. They had a real
disdain for it because it should be science and technology
for all.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
And so you know, there's a real big division on that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Do you think then that that he does have a
road to disclosure or is it a road to more
money being made? And I think that's.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
That's what we're I think that's what we're going to
find out in the next year with his company, his
dr Owne company. Anderill watched that very closely. He's now
investing in just threw a huge amount of money down
into a certain type of cryptocurrency. And from talking with
other people in the financial world and financial advisors about
this issue and specifically the Trump administration and you know,

(01:09:23):
the the trade issues and the taxes and how that's
all working. You know, I ask somebody, why is it
that the market has been so stable with all these
other instabilities, and they said, they're all all the financial
heavyweights are looking into AI. So I would watch that
as well. I would watch his investments into AI and

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all the stuff that he's doing, and because he's obviously,
you know, very smart and has been very successful. But
that'll tell you. That'll tell you you're not going to get it.
You're not going to like read it on the headline.
Maybe you have to interpret it, Yeah, to analyze it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Are there ufhone names out there that have maybe had
conversations with Peter Thiel regarding the UFO subject and the
importance of digging into it, you know, whether it's whether
it's scientists like Eric Davis or Diana Psalka or anybody
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
Yeah, I think Gary Nolan probably definitely knows him. I
think that I posted something recently on my timeline about
their connection, so you can go look at that or
reference that. So yeah, I do think they've had conversations.
It's a guest, you know, I don't know that for certain.
I am going to go to a soul symposium in Italy,

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so maybe he'll be there and I'll be able to
talk to him personally.

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
If he's aid soul symposium.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
That would be actually kind of cool.

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
It would, yeah, it would.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
We could clear the air and I could say, hey,
this is what I heard. If it was wrong, I apologize.
I mean, I could basically tell him what I was
basic basing my information on with the movie, and we
would have a great conversation about markets and future energy
and the economy.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
But I have never seen him.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
I've never seen him at any of these events. Now
at Seoul coming up, it is a very exclusive thing.
There's a three hundred and fifty dollars dinner, right, so
one of the first nights they're having like a private
dinner three hundred and fifty bucks ahead. Then there's a
whole forum thing where you can go and do investment

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that's thirty five hundred dollars to get into that, so
very exclusive.

Speaker 6 (01:11:35):
So of course I'm not doing any of that. I
probably just get like a shark heatery board in my room.
But it's expensive, and so it's the elite. We're seeing
this rise of elitism, which is at once concerning and
also exclusive because it cuts certain people out from being
able to attend those things. So I have mixed feelings

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about it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
When you look at when you look at the entire landscape,
because it really does bode for what I've called off
it and I've said this to you, disclosure for dollars.
Are we looking at at a momentum here in the
scientific community where it is coming down to disclosure for dollars?
But disclosure actually means we'll disclosed to ourselves at not

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the general public.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
I don't think Holy, I think part and Parcel. I
think yes, there is definitely some part of it that
is funding and technology and money and deep investment into
things like crypto, certain types of crypto, tying that in
who's got the technology, who's doing the studies, who's doing
the frontline level stuff, and then who wants to fund it?

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
Okay, But I also think the second part of this
is these individuals do want disclosure, and they have done
a ton of work all along the way for all
of us, including Eric Davis, explaining to us how this
whole system works, about this compartmentalization. So they at once
educate us, they also share their journey into what's happened

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to them, which is very important.

Speaker 6 (01:13:10):
And three they are trying to light the way. Is
there money being made along the process?

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Yeah, And I think as business people and entrepreneurs who
are into tech, they would say, you can't do business
without profit. And so in the US, capitalism is how
we keep ourselves prosperous. So that's not a thing that's
taboo in the US.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Okay, let's throw a little conspiracy theory out here, because
recently we heard Vice President JD. Vance talking about how
during the recess in August here he was going to
be doing a deep dive into learning more about UFOs
because he's just absolutely fascinated with this topic. Well, we

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also know that Peter Thiel has backed Jdvans politically on
a couple of occasions. You know, And I'm wondering now
if THEOL looks at JD. Vance as his inroad to
the higher ups like Donald Trump, the president and others

(01:14:15):
within his staff about trying to get this story and
get control of it. What do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (01:14:23):
Oh, people have gone further than that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
Some people have speculated that when Trump said about the
drone issue, they won't allow me to say or whatever
is exact quote is I'm paraphrasing that he was talking
about Peter Thiel because people think that maybe Peter theel
had you know, maybe possibly drones, or he was involved

(01:14:45):
with the unsettled some level, so that when Trump said
they won't let me answer that, he was directly pointing
to Vance and THEIL.

Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
So I don't take it that far. I think it's
an interesting angle. But in terms of you know, Vance
and his political history and their connection that's been you know,
that's been well established, and that Peter Thiel helped him
to get into Silicon Valley and established roofs and to
be successful, and that he totally backed him with the

(01:15:15):
writing of his book, He'll Billy Elogy, supporting that once
again a book, another media project, and then a film
came out of that. So I've just been saying to
people over and over.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
There's an established pattern. He picked people, he sees potential
in them, he wants to support them. Usually there's a
media project involved. Obviously business and you know that business
connection and those two things kind of linked up.

Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
And he's a king maker. He's a king maker.

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
That's that's I'm saying that straight. Because he made Vance
he did, he backed him with support. I mean, feel
funded a lot of people politically, so it's not just Vance,
but Vance's rise up and to be the VP. Did
people think that he would ever be the actual president? No,

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people didn't think that in a million years.

Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
But a lot of people were watching it, and now
he is, and so a lot of people are saying
he's going to be the pick for the GOP for
the next election.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Well, and that's the wonder that I have is does
this UFO subject fall onto the heels now of potentially
jd vance in the future being the disclosure president because
of Peter Thield.

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
They have it all gamed out. It would make absolute sense.
It would make absolute sense.

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
Yeah, I think when something makes sense like that, and
that having Trump and this administration in Congress being a
GOP led Congress, that is absolutely a possibility.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
And so you have to say, yeah, this would totally
line up.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
Now, the midterms are maybe going to change things because
there's just a slim, slim lead of thep in the House.
You know, they could lose some seats on the midterms.
But that's why you're seeing all this new changing and
jerrymandering around districts in Texas, in California, and why people
are evacuating from their posts because they don't want to

(01:17:17):
have to be present. So there's a very clear obstruction
of that process happening. And so it'll be very interesting
to see what happens with the hearings, and it'll be
very interesting to see the technology stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
But I, as I've said before, I really do think
that that's what's behind it. And would they have to.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
Give a little disclosure in that process, Yeah, they would
definitely have to say there was a program, but it's
not going.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
To be full disclosure. Like you and I have always
talked about.

Speaker 5 (01:17:47):
If anything, the whole experience or part of all this
has just been totally wiped away.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
It's all about the technology, is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
What you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's the way the wind
is going, the drones and advanced drones and advanced weaponry
and how that's going.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
To be used. Because even in the age of disclosure,
that's basically what Gary Nolan and Eric Davis were saying
at the very end of the film. They were saying
that there was a weapon that came down, an advanced weapon.

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
They basically have that understanding. In one of these apps,
there was also advanced science and tech and they were
grappling with and Travis Taylor came in and made a
great interjection. It's like, we have to be responsible with
what we have and we want to share it with humanity,
but we also have to be assessing constantly our adversaries

(01:18:43):
and what they've already figured out and how this could
be used against us. So all these people are really
trying very hard for disclosure, but they're having personal, you know,
and philosophical and existential questions themselves about this technology and
how advanced it is and what we have and what's
good for humanity versus what's good for the US is

(01:19:05):
a tough existential question for anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
At the end of the night, what else is going
on in the UFO world? This we have about five
minutes ago before we go to break. What else is attention?

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
I just got to interview John Tedesco last night. It
was an excellent interview. I got to ask some pointed
questions about their study, their ten month study at Robert Moses,
their paralyzation on the beach when the light came down
over the water and then they were directly hit. John
described it as a surgical strike, you know, where he

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went down to the ground and was disabled and couldn't
move his legs. He brought me totally up to speed
on that that they are working on it. You know,
what happened, what they're looking into, So that was pretty amazing.
The second thing is that they you know, they were
the ones out there on New York and Long Island
when they were also doing investigations the drone flap. So

(01:20:02):
he gave some really great updates on that because he
called what they found with their radar tracking and everything
and their hyperspectual imagery or whatever it is, they found
a gravitational lensing, a gravitational lensing around these objects and
they were trying to determine if they had masks, and

(01:20:24):
so he said that they've moved that forward, and he
actually named the guy who they're doing studies with up
in Canada.

Speaker 6 (01:20:31):
Actually Dave, and his name.

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
I wrote it down for you last night when I
did the interview. But he basically said, it's like an Alcubieri.
It's like an Alcubiery warp drive that they're looking into.
That might be what this gravitational lensing is putting out
that they're seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
That's interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
So the guy in Canada, they're working with him, the
Tedesco brothers are to drive that forward.

Speaker 6 (01:21:00):
So that's really exciting. His name is Chad Wandless.

Speaker 5 (01:21:04):
Chad Wandless, So he basically and that interview, you know,
broke down some of these effects that they were seeing
where there was like cohes objects that they came together
and then there was synchronization. He talked about all the
different type of reflections that they caught on the uap

(01:21:25):
drone stuff with the Nightcrawler mobile unit. And then I
just heard on this other interview with James Don Dooley
with Martin Willis that Martin Willis said that they got
the nod from the government, that the government likes what
they're doing and there's going to be a huge announcement soon.
He didn't say what it was, but he basically said that,

(01:21:46):
you know, their studies have essentially been approved by the government.
So that's a really big breaking news and breaking story.
People have been out there with night Crawler, various different
people and experiencers doing some kind of protocol with them.
I don't know how many people have been out but
they talked about that. So that's one big, one big

(01:22:07):
good piece of news.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
So for people who don't know who the Tesco brothers are,
explain what they've done. To become kind of, you know,
into the UFO field.

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
They were originally looking at cancer clusters. They're two electronic engineers,
the brothers, the twins, and so that's how they got
doing their work on like atmospheric stuff, taking out you
know and doing studies about cancer clusters and studying the atmosphere.
And then they did this crossover where they had one

(01:22:43):
unit that they built out and then they have another
one and it's caraled night Crawl.

Speaker 6 (01:22:48):
It's called Nightcrawler.

Speaker 5 (01:22:49):
Okay, So they did a ten month study on UAPs
out at Robert Moses State Park on New York on
Long Island.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
It's a very big strip that goes out into a
point and ends in a town called Montak.

Speaker 6 (01:23:04):
So they're at Robert Moses ten month study. They're using flear.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
They have an expand radar hypospectral camera. So they have
all these sensors, these advanced sensors, and they're able to
use their sensors to detect UAPs.

Speaker 6 (01:23:21):
And then also to do like analysis on them. So
that's what they do. It's pretty cool. They have some
high end tech and it's very expensive, and so they've
done a lot of interviews. They also wrote a book
after the Robert Moses studies.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
I just had to plug my computer in, sorry, and
that's called Iye on the Sky.

Speaker 6 (01:23:41):
So they've done a lot of work, they've done a
lot of interviews.

Speaker 8 (01:23:44):
They're very accessible, they're great guys, and they're kind of
on the cutting edge.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Yeah, and you know what they have, you know, built
like a motor home that has all sorts of gear
in it. And it's almost the same concept that Tim
Seenoor and Terry Hall made a few years ago in
Washington or partly in Oregon state, you know, and it's
kind of interesting to see how they've kind of taken

(01:24:13):
off with it. Courtney, I'm gonna get you to hold
on right there. We're gonna get some audience questions with
Courtney Marcusani. Next on spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 7 (01:24:31):
You're listening to space Out with, you know, with your
host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Let's give a shout out to human Carl in the
chat room tonight and a big send him some love. He's,
you know, going through a little bit of health issues
right now, so let's make sure we all send him
some positivity, some love and healing if you don't mind,
because human Carl is an important, important part of our
chat room, guys, so let's send him some love. I'm

(01:25:06):
sending love to you right now, Human Carl. Hope you
could feel a buddy m No no, no, no no no,
Human Carl, No no, no, no no no, Human Carl
healing vibes. Oh it feels good, It feels good. We
love you, Human Carl, We do, buddy. Doctor Bob's nightmare,

(01:25:29):
three nights in a row. Look at you. You got
a hat trick going on, doctor Bob. What do you
say there? Courtster?

Speaker 6 (01:25:47):
Just so as I was about to drink my his tea,
I say, I say, it's great. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
So far? So good.

Speaker 6 (01:25:56):
There's a lot of great stuff going on. I've been
finding out about, you know, the Telepidley Center and the
non speakers and all the work that's being done out there.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
And you know the Skywatcher announcement that James Fowler had
just got a new government contract.

Speaker 6 (01:26:14):
You know that's big news. I mean, there's a lot
of stuff going on right now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Kind of nice tea are you drinking there?

Speaker 6 (01:26:24):
It's called gold Peak.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Is that the Raspberry one there?

Speaker 6 (01:26:28):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I like the Raspberry.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
You should have seen extra small East rouse from our
Element one fifteen show. He was up here last weekend
and he'd never tried ketchup or all dressed potato chips
before because you don't have them down there.

Speaker 6 (01:26:50):
Oh boy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Yeah, he wasn't a fan of the ketchup, but the
all dressed. So if you don't know what all dressed
chips are is they take every flavor from chips, salt
and vinegar, sour cream, barbecue, catch up, and they mix
them all together for what they call an all dressed chip.
They're phenomenal and he fell in love with those. I

(01:27:11):
think he probably bought about, I don't know, fifteen bags
before he went home.

Speaker 5 (01:27:17):
Well, I my favorite thing, my favorite Canadian thing. Besides
you know my friends who are hunters up there who
could do the moose.

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
It's also the poutine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Oh yeah, I love poutine.

Speaker 8 (01:27:29):
I never eat it, but when I'm in Canada, man,
I have to partake in some poutine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
It's so love.

Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
The kurds and whatnot. Oh my god, the greedy love it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Mm hmmm mm hmm. You know what I haven't had
in a while that I had today? I had a bit.
I took my son to dairy queen, I had a
banana split.

Speaker 6 (01:27:51):
Wow, oh decad in. That's just straight up sometime fun
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
I feel so fat right now, but it was so
worth it was so is it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
Look, I'm in the opposite mode.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
I've been cleansing for like a month and a half now,
and so I'm just like all greens, totally greens protein.

Speaker 6 (01:28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Do Canadians make maple syrup potato chips?

Speaker 10 (01:28:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
But that sounds phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
Wow, that is a that's a that's a million dollar
idea there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Oh, that sounds phenomenal. If you want to try something
really really good, take maple syrup and dip a popsicle
stick in the maple syrup, and on a snowy night

(01:28:45):
where you get like lots of snow on the ground,
roll the maple syrup stick in the snow. It's like
eating candy.

Speaker 11 (01:28:53):
I have done.

Speaker 6 (01:28:55):
I have done the fresh maple syrup in the snow
before in Alaska. I have done.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (01:29:03):
Oh my god, I'm like the poutine. I can't get
off my line.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
You know what we had happened today?

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
My town never ever gets contrails by planes? Rarely do
you see a control maybe maybe once, once twice, maybe
once a week if that. Okay, today in four straight lines,
big aircraft flying over and they were all equally apart,

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and like I'm talking like they were definitely I saw
one of them. It was definitely four engined, which would
the only real passenger plane on that now because seven
forty seven's are kind of passe now is the airbus
A three eighty And I don't think four of them
would fly over, So I think there were like four

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u US military aircraft flying over. They were going northeast.
It was really weird because Canada only has five C
seventeen's and they're spread across the country. Hold on here,
I'm sorry. Here we go, I apologize.

Speaker 7 (01:30:17):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
We're going to the second half of Spaced Out Radio tonight.
My name is Dave Scott. Thank you for enjoying these weird,
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being a part of your night. Courtney Marcusani is here.
We have her till the top of the hour talking UFOs.

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at spaced Out Radio Show, and on Patreon in the
Space Travelers Club. Let's bring in Courtney hanging on out
with us, and we're gonna take some audience questions. Courtney
for you on the UFO subject You ready, yep. We're
gonna start with PARAMARV here. Is there any chance Robert
Sallis will finally be testifying? His story would seem to

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fit their threat narrative.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
Boy, that's a tough one. I would love to see
him testify. But you know, it's been so interesting.

Speaker 8 (01:31:53):
When the Wall Street Journal article came out, he was
his story was actually one that.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
I mean, I'm sure that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
People would call it, you know, debunking or whatever, but
they produced some you know, illustrations and things that it
was an advanced weapon. And then you have all the
people that go in the history that say this wasn't
possible at this time, and this would have kind of
had to wheel out on a gantry to hit the
silos and everything. So I don't think he will be

(01:32:25):
And the only reason I say that, even though I
think his story is so credible at Maelstrom, I do
think that that has tainted.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
It for people who may not know who Robert Sallas is.
Give a quick thirty second breakdown.

Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
He was out at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana,
and several other people were also witnesses to this, but
they had an emergency alert go off and there was
a phone call from the front gate that there were
two bright red just objects at the front gate. And

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of course in Montana we have tons of undergrounds missile silos.
You see them when you drive by, you know, out
in these lonesome highways. And so at that time he
testified and other people did too, that all the nuclear
stuff and all the stuff in the silos went down
and the power loss and everything else, and so it

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was an actually like emergency issue that they had to
report on as military member.

Speaker 6 (01:33:28):
So that's the general gist of the story.

Speaker 5 (01:33:30):
You know, I'm not an expert on Malmstrom, but there's
a lot of information out there, including Roberts interviews and
all of his history behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
All right, let's go next to Polly. Do you have
any info on Steven Spielberg's new movie sources?

Speaker 12 (01:33:51):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:33:54):
I just hesitate to even say, you know, because it's
with all these projects, you know, we're talking about these
film projects happening, and I will say that a lot
of people are getting things confused on David Grush and
who he's consulting with, and people think it's the Spielberg movie.

Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
It was a producer or somebody that I talked to
last week that made a clear differentiation for me because
I was talking about that.

Speaker 6 (01:34:21):
I was talking about the upcoming Spielberg movie and him.

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
Consulting on it, and they cleared it for me and said,
he's consulting on the one with the guys that did
the Top Gun movie, and.

Speaker 6 (01:34:35):
So I am working on it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
Yes, perfect are their sources directly related to it? No,
but there are people in Hollywood that are talking about it,
and I'm talking to those folks.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
All right, Let's go to Super Crazy. Were you ever
shown any unreleased high quality UFO videos or photos that
may shock us and the world. If yes, are they
coming out anytime soon?

Speaker 6 (01:34:59):
We've always been shown photos and videos in.

Speaker 5 (01:35:02):
Groups and mostly from citizen scientists and things, and yeah,
I have seen some amazing things, particularly orbs, the colors
that they appear and how they phase shift.

Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
But will those things ever be entered into evidence.

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
Probably not a lot of them are being taken on
you know, regular cameras, and they don't have the high quality,
they're still good quality.

Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
And so yeah, I have seen some amazing things.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
Nothing that's been ever classified, you know, obviously, because that's illegal.

Speaker 6 (01:35:32):
The best things we got that were.

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
Leaked were the tictag and the you know, the gimble,
and even the Gimble.

Speaker 6 (01:35:39):
Now is being questioned as a UAP. So that's the
short answer.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
I like it. I like it. I'll give you points
for that one. Let's go to Derek Courtney. Do you
believe Jake Barber is a government plant sent into eufology.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
I certainly think his story about redlining Michael is suspicious.
I also think that the way the story changed the
way Michael Herrera told the story originally, and that the
the you know, the news Nation information that came out

(01:36:16):
backed her Era, but not certain parts of the story
and how that change happened through Jake is certainly questionable.
There is also you know, his his coming in to
the ss I SEE and working to basically get other

(01:36:38):
black operators out of their black programs in through the
SSIIC process.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
I also think that needs to be taken a look at.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
I also think that the history around Skywatcher and when
it started, you know, basically five years ago according to
James Fowler, that was really illuminating. So whether he's a
plan to ruin you afology, I don't think so, but
I think that his orientation to what he's doing should

(01:37:07):
definitely be carefully considered by anybody evaluating it.

Speaker 7 (01:37:11):
His role.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Speaking of Skywatcher, why do you think James Fowler stepped down?

Speaker 6 (01:37:19):
Well, you know as.

Speaker 5 (01:37:21):
Well as I that there was scuttle but you know
about three months ago that the contracts were all stalled,
and then in addition to that the contracts being stalled,
then there was also another narrative that they had been
bought out, that they actually the ownership of the company

(01:37:41):
or their incorporation or whatever was, somebody else came in.

Speaker 6 (01:37:46):
And so I don't know about any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
The inside baseball around their in corporation or their agreements.
But you saw him left because he got a new contract,
and so they're very excited about it. They're saying, congrats,
it's a wonderful thing. So I'm happy for him because
if he did studies at Skywatcher, that is leading edge
science bringing it forward. Good for him if he's going

(01:38:11):
to be a contractor.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
Love it, love it. Okay, let's go on to another
question here. I think there's more to get into there,
but I do want to move on. It's going to amazing. Okay, Courtney,
do you think they'll roll out the medbeds they were
supposed to give us back January twenty twenty five, which
was talked about in late twenty twenty four. First off,
explain to people what a medbed is.

Speaker 5 (01:38:38):
Medbds haven't been talked about that much, but they're essentially
like an advanced technology that people can go and this
is just a short version lay down in and help
with sell your tissue regeneration, immune system building. And it's like,
I have never heard that we were going to get
them in January twenty five, only heard of medbeds being

(01:39:02):
entered into discussions around Amy Eskridge's story because she introduced medbeds.
But then John Ramirez just brought medbeds up recently and
that they are a real concept. But I don't know,
I don't know when that's coming and why it didn't come.

(01:39:23):
But John Ramirez would probably be a good resource to
ask about it because he just brought it up recently
in a public podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
Right, Okay, moving on here, let's go to let's find
someone new here. Joseph is asking, is Peter Field taking
over Project Bluebeam with the drones?

Speaker 6 (01:39:43):
I mean, that is certainly out there.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
People are afraid that he's going to use the drones
as like a spy, where we already know that pal
Andeer was used in different strikes military strike recently, and
that they use to Palanteer and the information, the intelligence

(01:40:07):
to do surgical strikes. People are concerned that that's going
to be turned back on us. Now, we already have
privacy issues. We essentially have no privacy because the Patriot Act.
But you know, there's this huge lack of privacy now
that we've become accustomed to and I accepted. So it's

(01:40:27):
not a it's not a strange leap to think that
this would be weaponized against US.

Speaker 6 (01:40:32):
For surveillance, for for spuying. But they do that already,
you know.

Speaker 8 (01:40:38):
I mean there's already airplanes that have surveillance on them,
and so it's not it's not like it's not already happening.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
But will it be a Project blue being thing? I
pray not.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
I hope not.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
I hope not. We don't need a Project blueing thing.
Let's go to Walter here. Why won't another country initiate disclosure?
Surely the US isn't the only country with this information.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
I think the Japanese.

Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
You know, when I got to go to Soul Symposium
last year, one of the Japanese delegates who came, he
talked about their process.

Speaker 6 (01:41:14):
They do have a process for it, and the Japanese government, you.

Speaker 5 (01:41:18):
Know, basically has all their own ways of storing secrets
and everything that.

Speaker 6 (01:41:22):
So I think Japan has a disclosure plan. Now he
is not in his position. The delegate that came, he
set up like this group.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
I mean, this is all out there, you know, when
they established the group what they were hoping to accomplish.
He actually stepped away from it. But it's still a
group that is doing UAP disclosure in Japan. I do
think that the you know, obviously England and the British
they've just come out. They have a whole round of
whistleblowers coming in to testify or that's already happened, and

(01:41:57):
so England is. I think that the Soul's Symposium being
done in Italy is a major signaling that Italy is
probably going to move forward with their history and also
try to work towards disclosure. So I actually think there
is a global effort happening right now in.

Speaker 6 (01:42:13):
The UAU because groups are coming together in the EU.
Jonathan Burt is a huge part of all that, connecting
all the different countries I have seen, you know, different
groups in you know, South America have been established. They're
working hard. I mean they have the whole Mummy issue

(01:42:34):
and the Pruvian you know. But anyway, I think there
are groups that are working on disclosure in their own countries.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
I'd like to see it. I think there is though
an economic tie to it. If you look at the
Five Eyes, if you look at NATO, you look at
Noorad as somebody who's you know, from outside the US.
I see how in Canada the US really controls the
UFO story.

Speaker 6 (01:43:04):
Yeah, yeah, there is major overreach, and we saw that
all play out. We saw that all play out with
mon and Eimer and Larry McGuire being reached out to
right from the US and the Canadian response. Larry McGuire
came to the First SOUL conference.

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
I got to hear him talk on a panel and
Q and A with how put off with Leslie Keane moderating,
and so you could see.

Speaker 6 (01:43:31):
How that reach happened in and then what happened after.

Speaker 5 (01:43:35):
So it's interesting because we really do, I think, want
to lead that effort and shepherd the way for Canada
and Canada's z own sovereignty.

Speaker 6 (01:43:45):
And its own legal political system.

Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
And that's one of the things that Larry McGuire said
at the First SOUL is that they didn't have access
to classified information your delegates. He did talked about in
Parliament that they had a group that goes ound into Washington,
c DC regularly for diplomacy, and he talked about how

(01:44:08):
they're doing that with UAPs.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
All right, let's hit another question here. Let's go to
Polly A threatening approaching craft, threatened whistleblowers. Are we going
to through Project Bluebeam right now?

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Threatening approaching craft?

Speaker 5 (01:44:27):
Okay, well, there's always been threatening craft for some cases, right,
we know, some experiencers have threatening experiences and it's very
hard for them. There's the abductions. There's also trauma induced
experiences that happen through contact that are not positive in nature.

(01:44:49):
Then there's you know, a speculation that a lot of
the advanced weaponry or the advanced aerospace stuff with pulsion
or whatever the experiments they might be doing have had
failures and injured people in that way, like like cash
Landrum and the ali Ash twins in other cases, and Cholarius,

(01:45:11):
and you know, there's a whole line of research around that,
and that goes back a long way. So I don't
think we're in Project Bluebean because this has been happening,
you know, various incidents that have been happening all along
the way. I think it's the breakdown in the military
and the breakdown of some of these compartmentalized programs that
they just can't shield from witnesses and people who are

(01:45:31):
getting injured.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
Speaking of which you know today is the seventieth anniversary
of the Kentucky Goblins.

Speaker 6 (01:45:40):
Really I did not know that. Thank you for bringing
that into my awareness.

Speaker 10 (01:45:45):
Dave.

Speaker 6 (01:45:45):
You've got such a, you got such the good tips
and the good the good news.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Well I have to thank dirty filth for that one.
So for people who don't know who the Kellyville or
Kelly Hopkinsville pardon me goblin a the Kentucky goblins, it
is a sighting a family had of these really weird
looking creatures. It almost looks like if you remember the
Stitch from Leelo and Stitch, okay, but expand Stitch from

(01:46:14):
the pudgy little blue character, stretch him out a couple
of feet so he's nice and thin, and that's kind
of what these creatures kind of look like. And for
two days they they basically tortured a family of about
twelve people in Kentucky location Christian County, and basically you know,

(01:46:37):
wouldn't allow them out of the house. And these people
were like shooting guns at them and trying to hit them.
And there was no physical evidence of this none. And
this happened for two days, two nights, and poof, they
just disappeared. The people went to the police. Police brought
in the you know, like the the sheriffs, the deputies

(01:46:57):
and everything, you know, to invest and they found nothing
but bullet holes had screen doors and windows.

Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
Well, that's often the case.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
I mean, and you know there's all these ancient storylines
around the little people or the dwarfs or you know,
these various incidents that go way back. And so it's
cool that you brought up the Kentucky Goblins because it's
not a story of that people.

Speaker 6 (01:47:23):
Most people know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
I love it. Let's go to another question. Let's go
to super crazy. Here are the UFO disclosure movies by
Spielberg and one by Joseph Kazinski with David Grush consulting,
plus the Age of Disclosure document at Jay Stratton's book
all coming out soon. Is it just a coincidence?

Speaker 11 (01:47:43):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:47:43):
I think that's narrative disclosure, and I think that there's
a long history of the CIA and other agencies consulting
with the entertainment industry.

Speaker 6 (01:47:55):
Short answer, do you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Think that it's all a big plan that is that controlled?

Speaker 6 (01:48:04):
I do think it was, Yeah, I obviously do.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
How can you explain the timing now whereas there all
one off and somebody wanted to.

Speaker 6 (01:48:12):
Do it create a project.

Speaker 5 (01:48:13):
Sure, but a lot of times the CIA works directly
with Hollywood. I mean they come in and they essentially
get like training you know on site at the agency,
and you know, these kind of contracts are set up.
So I don't think they're all you know, CIA funded projects,

(01:48:34):
let me just say that, but there's a long interesting
history of that partnership between Hollywood and the intelligence community.
I mean, for goodness sakes, the CIA used to call
CNN when they were going to have an incursion and
a strike or something so they would cover it, so
they could be there and cover it. And not only that,
there's also well established in Hollywood when they bring out

(01:48:56):
a new plane or a new fighter jet or whatever
it's trued in the film. Because it's like air dominance,
it's US air dominance, and so it's those kind of
cross chatter things are allowed to happen. So the story
is being told the right way. So do I think
it's connected.

Speaker 10 (01:49:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:49:13):
I don't know if they're all connected, but there's definitely
a connection.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
I had one former Air Force person that I speak
to when Top Gun Maverick came out and they were
showing the you know, the spy plane that he was
testing out trying to fly to mock ten. This person
just said, have you seen Maverick yet? I said, yeah,
just saw it. He goes, that's retired. Oh so it

(01:49:42):
was old yeah, not old technology. He says, that's retired.

Speaker 10 (01:49:47):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:49:48):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
Well, I think the drone stuff and the advancements in
drones is just going to blow people's mind.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
I think it's going to be a lot more are fun,
a lot more fun, especially if the technology comes out.
That's where it's gonna get fun. Let's go to the
next one. Super crazy. He is asking, what is your
honest opinion on the Bigfoot phenomenon, whether or not it's
connected to the UFO phenomena. A little bit off topic,
but we'll ask it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:17):
That's okay because my friends like Dave and DJ that
are totally big you know, nuts, They've brought me into
it and I have followed projects and learned about it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:28):
It's connected. It's connected.

Speaker 5 (01:50:30):
You can't explain how people are out there putting out
recordings of former screams that were recorded.

Speaker 6 (01:50:37):
And then there's activity.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
So I didn't used to believe in Bigfoot before, but
now I do because when you see these expeditions where
they go out in the middle of the woods and
there's patterns and the tree branches that are moved a
certain way, or there's a gifting field and you know,
something arrives you just can't deny it. And not only that,
there are lights, there's a light phenomenon that happen bins

(01:51:00):
with sasquatch research orbs show up. So yeah, I also
connected that way.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
I'm taking my dad out tomorrow night to go bigfooting good. Yeah,
and it's funny because I'm taking him to the scary site. Oa.
You know we had speaking of technology.

Speaker 6 (01:51:22):
You're brave and he is super going with you.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
Oh, he's so freaked out, Like he is so freaked out.
It's awesome, it's awesome. But uh, we had a trail
camera up for seven days, seven days on a very
very busy animal trail. Uh huh, not one photograph, not really.

(01:51:51):
We take so Tim thinks that the camera may have
screwed up somehow, or maybe he screwed it up while
it was up in the tree. He takes it home
to test the camera, does it the exact same way
he sets it up, Photographs all over the place.

Speaker 6 (01:52:11):
What.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Yeah, Well, I set up.

Speaker 5 (01:52:15):
Two trail cams on the farm and boy, that's quite
the job trying to But anyway, did.

Speaker 6 (01:52:20):
You see the did you see the photos?

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
I put up of the huge black bear and the
huge box. No, no, oh, I'll send them to you.
I'll send them to you off channels, please.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Do I just got my I just got my hunting
tags earlier today, so I'm pretty excited.

Speaker 6 (01:52:35):
Yeah, good, good good.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
Yeah, I'm like I literally said to the lady at
the window. He said, yeah, these two deer tags are
pretty much a donation. I said, because I really like
deer and I just do not see myself harvesting one.

Speaker 6 (01:52:49):
So oh, I grew up with it. I grew up
with it. Yeah, I grew up with the person Like
when you don't have your license yet.

Speaker 8 (01:52:55):
They used to say, Courtney, go down underneath and there
would be like this little raw patch that I have
to crawl into.

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
It was totally hazing, right, We're terrible. But I could
get down in there and so I would push the
deer out. No, it's not something I ascribed to now
as an adult, but I did do it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Wow, I've my contribution.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Well, let me let me tell you something here I could.
I could tell you I really liked the deer. I
did not get a deer bear tag. I did not
get a moose tag. Well, moose tags are limited entry
around here, but I did get a white tail and
a mule deer tag. And I can tell you right now,

(01:53:36):
I just wasted like sixty dollars, just wasted sixty dollars
right there, because I know I'm not going to shoot
a deer. I'm not that good of a shot number one,
But number two, I like deer. I like looking at deer.
I love everything about deer, you know, watching them when
they're in my yard and the little babies are running

(01:53:56):
around like they are right now. I like that. So
I just can't see myself harvesting one. But that's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:54:04):
And we learn we learn it very early and it's
a it's a pretty traumatic thing, but you just learned
to do it in the country.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Oh you have to. You have to. Courtney. Thank you
for coming back on spaced Out Radio. We will talk
to you very very soon. Coming up next Swamp Dweller
and then Little Timmy James. We'll be here for the
UFO Report. We'll be right back everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:54:31):
You're listening just spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
Yeah, Tim and I shows. I think Tim and Dave
are going to be sick. On September tenth. Yes, well,
yes it.

Speaker 6 (01:55:00):
I got to tell you this one story, and I
will do it offline. But it's so funny. It's about
my brother in law and.

Speaker 8 (01:55:06):
His father or grandfather out hunt out hunting, and or
he's just out in the woods and you just remind
me to.

Speaker 6 (01:55:14):
Tell you the good Lord service story.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
I will all right, we'll talk soon, okay, right on,
I'll be up. All right, Courtey, Markusani, everybody, I'll be right.

Speaker 10 (01:55:24):
Back us.

Speaker 11 (01:56:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
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Speaker 11 (01:59:36):
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Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
All right, let's bring in little Timmy James.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
Hey, buddy, how you doing goodn't you?

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
I'm good man.

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
I love Courtney when she's on.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
I just love it. Oh yeah, it's in depth man,
in eh deep dive. Oh yeah, all right, Swampy will
be let me just look up here. Delete that one.
Swampy will be about two minutes twenty six seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Roger that.

Speaker 13 (02:00:20):
Then you're going, yeah, yeah, man, no politics tonight, Yes,
nice noice.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
I'm looking forward to Saturday. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
Oh me too.

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
Yeah. We're gonna have to take two vehicles in.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
So, and then when when you get to the gully there,
I'll have to Yeah, we'll figure something out there be
the faery man, Yeah, I might put one one of
them because my dad and his friend are coming, so
I might have to put one of the friends with
you just or my dad with you or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
Whatever. Yeah, it all works, man, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
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(02:01:31):
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(02:02:36):
let's head to the swamp.

Speaker 14 (02:02:39):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp. I'm swamp dweller.
In tonight, I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends, and nightmaps.
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 12 (02:02:56):
When I was about seven or eight years old, I
had a disturbing encounter with a creature or entity. I
lived in the Appalachian Mountain range of Pennsylvania. It was
November when around daylight savings time occurred. I remember it
was supposed to be a school day, but since the
heavy snow came down, the buses could not drive out
in the morning, so school was canceled for a snow day.

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I was excited to spend the rest of the day
in the snow, playing and exploring. We had an acre
of property going quite far back into the woods. I
walked deep into the forest to a small frozen pond,
passed my property line.

Speaker 14 (02:03:32):
Suddenly the woods.

Speaker 12 (02:03:34):
Went dead silent, no sounds of birds, no wildlife scurrying around,
absolutely nothing. I remember thinking it was strange, but kept
walking to make it to the pond. I should have
turned around right then and there and just went home,
but I was just a naive little kid. After I
reached the pond, everything was still completely silent, and the

(02:03:55):
hairs on the back of my neck felt like they
were rising. I started to get frightened, but I I
didn't know why. I felt like something terrible would happen
to me if I didn't leave right then and there,
so I decided, out of some random spark in my brain,
to run back home. As I arrived at my backyard,
I realized it was so late and the sun was setting.

(02:04:15):
My mom came running outside, asking where I was all
day and never disappeared like that again. Now none of
this made any sense to me, because I had only
been out for about twenty minutes or so. I left
my house in my snow gear at around ten am,
right after the snow day call. It was almost eight pm,
meaning I had been gone for ten hours. I have

(02:04:37):
had no idea how this happened, and how I had
been gone for that long. I only remember being out
there from maybe a fifteen to twenty minute period. I
don't know if this has anything to do with any
kind of cryptids or any kind of weird supernatural elements,
but I do know it was very similar to the
things I've heard on the swamp whill a YouTube channel
in the past when it came to Missing four when
one videos, has anyone else ever had this happen them?

(02:05:00):
Was it some sort of creature. I didn't see anything
at all while out there, I didn't lose track of time,
and I didn't fall and hit my head or anything.

Speaker 8 (02:05:08):
What do you think happened?

Speaker 12 (02:05:09):
Please let me know in the comments, and thank you
swamped Willer for sharing this experience. I know it might
not be super terrifying, but the details surrounding this experience
will forever have me scratching my head.

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
Thank you Swampy for another great story. If you want
more just like that, head on over to his YouTube channel.
He has literally hours upon hours of listening entertainment for
you regarding weird, strange encounters with cryptids and monsters. Let's
go to the UFO report that is an interplanetary flying

(02:05:42):
space sauce. Here comes Little Timmy James and the UFO Report. Tim,

(02:06:03):
Before we get started, I have to tell you I
went to our local sports store today, Yes, and I
talked to the owner there, you know him, mister Judith,
and I actually showed him the picture of the droppings
the scat that we found.

Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
Ah, good call.

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
And he doesn't know what it is, no way. He says.
It looks like baby horse droppings, right, but he said
it wouldn't be cat. It's definitely not bear. It's definitely
not moose or deer. He goes. I really don't know

(02:06:43):
what this is. He goes, but if I were to
put my perspective on it, it would be probably a
baby horse. We would have heard the horses, oh, no question,
we would have heard them. Yeah, we would have heard them.
So the mystery on the known poop continues.

Speaker 2 (02:07:02):
Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (02:07:03):
Yes.

Speaker 15 (02:07:04):
And for him not to recognize that is quite shocking,
because yeah, that guy's been hunting and I think before
he was even out of diapers. So yeah, for him
for you to walk up and show him that and
him go, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
Yeah, for people, yeah, for people who don't know who
we're talking about. We live in a very small town.
There is only one hunting fishing store in our town.
The guy has literally owned it. It's family operated for
literally the last forty to fifty years. And this gentleman
knows a lot about the outdoors a lot. And he's

(02:07:43):
a prepper, a survivor too. So I mean, if anybody's
going to know, it's going to be him. And that's
why I took it to him. He could not identify it. Huh.
He could not identify it, like with he wasn't saying
that it wasn't an animal, but he's like, this is
this is weird. He goes, I've never seen the photos,
and in fact, he had seen the photos that I'd

(02:08:04):
put on Facebook. You know, so it's hard for us
to do a culture or anything.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
Like.

Speaker 1 (02:08:12):
I think probably Saturday we should bring a zip lock
and grab a couple of the pieces. Other than just
a case we can find a scientist who may want
to look at it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:23):
Yeah, but finally, but.

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
I think that maybe just maybe we might be onto
something here.

Speaker 15 (02:08:32):
Okay, well we'll make sure we do that for sure. No,
I'm kind of glad that he didn't know what it
was because that just kind of adds a little more
mystery to it though.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
It totally does it totally does. No, we did not
taste it. It's in our chat room from ormon A.
Did you taste it?

Speaker 12 (02:08:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
But Tim did put it and sift it through its
his fingers, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:56):
And then I had a sandwich right after.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
Yeah, you did. That was awesome.

Speaker 12 (02:09:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:09:02):
Everybody's looking at me like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
Right right there?

Speaker 10 (02:09:06):
You go?

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
There, you go? What do you got for us tonight?
My man?

Speaker 15 (02:09:10):
Oh well, mister Stephen Greer's back in the news. Stephen,
a prominent figure in UFO Disclosure, claims to possess a
deadband switch that could dismantle a secret, secretive group he
alleges controls extraterrestrial technology and suppresses its release. Greer, a
former emergency room physician and founder of the Disclosure Project,

(02:09:32):
says the mechanism would automatically release sensitive information if he
were harmed or unalived. The claim surfaced in discussion today,
tied to his ongoing work to expose what he describes
as a transnational cabal managing covert programs involving non human

(02:09:53):
intelligence and advanced energy technologies. Greer asserts the information if
relief would reveal details about black projects and free energy
systems that could disrupt the global economic order, particularly the
petro dollar system. He argues this cabal blocks disclosure to

(02:10:14):
maintain control over these technologies. The dead man switch, described
in a twenty thirteen document linked to his documentary Serious,
is framed as a safeguard to ensure his findings reach
the public if he faces threats. The document also outlines
a hypothetical technology to prevent unauthorized access to advanced spacecraft,

(02:10:37):
requiring regular human interaction to avoid self destruction. Skeptics question
the credibility of Greer's claims, noting the lack of verifiable
evidence in the document and his history of controversial statements.
Critics argue that if the information is a transformative is
as transformative as claimed, releasing it now could achieve his

(02:10:59):
goals without delay. So Greer counters that premature release might
trigger catastrophic consequences, likening it to global Samson option that
could destabilize society. He insists the cabal's mindset prevents them
from recognizing the broader implications of their secrecy. The concept

(02:11:20):
of a dead man switch is not unique to Greer.
It refers to a failsafe mechanism that activates automatically if
its operator is incapacitated, often used as a threat to
deter harm. Greer's version, however, centers on information rather than
a physical physical device, aligned with his narrative of systemic

(02:11:40):
cover ups. While some supporters view his efforts as a
bold stand against powerful forces, others dismiss them as speculative,
citing his commercial or ventures like UFO tours as undermining
his credibility. The debate continues with no concrete evidence yet
to substantiate the existence or impact of his alleged switch.

Speaker 1 (02:12:05):
Here's the thing with Stephen Greer. Okay, I think he's connected.
I think he is somebody who is very well versed
in this topic. The problem, or one of the problems
that Stephen Greer has with his credibility is the amount

(02:12:26):
of times he's cried wolf yes. And I don't think
after so many times, like dozens of times that he
says his life is on the line, that you know
that this could happen anytime. His amount of times that
disclosure was supposed to happen and bubble over finally and

(02:12:47):
it never happens. I think people have kind of put
him in that category of, oh, there's Stephen Greer talking again. Now,
Stephen Greer's followers and people who believe in him are
going to believe everything he says, you know, and that's Hey,
we have people who believe us, we have people who

(02:13:09):
don't believe us, and that's okay. But I think for
the whole public aspect of it, too many times he
is called you know, the sky is falling, and it
just never seems to happen, and I think people have
kind of put him in a category of well, there
he is again, thanks for nothing, no offense, but we're

(02:13:30):
not going to buy this one, you know, So you
just kind of look at it. That's the way I
look at it. What's your thoughts? No, I agree too.
I agree.

Speaker 15 (02:13:37):
I think that I Firstly, I do think he's very
versed in what he's doing. I think he's done a
lot of study. I believe in his knowledge. I think that,
in my opinion, that he maybe inadvertently, I don't know,
he embellishes on his stories.

Speaker 2 (02:14:01):
I think he.

Speaker 1 (02:14:02):
Believes them, but I'm not sure if he's.

Speaker 15 (02:14:07):
Actually stating facts sometimes, Like you said, I mean, he's
some of the phoenix lights, right, he did that on
the flight in, you know whatever. And I find him
to be I find him to his stories at times
to be a little over exaggerated and a tad unbelievable.
But again, that doesn't make them un true. It just

(02:14:27):
makes them harder for me to believe because they seem
so out there.

Speaker 1 (02:14:32):
You know, I don't believe the Phoenix lights one for
a second. Oh come on, you don't come out, you
don't come out. Literally, Well was it twenty eight years
later and say, oh, I did that on the anniversary
yet on the anniversary? Yeah, that was me. I did that.
No all right, no, no, no, sorry, you just don't

(02:14:54):
get to do that one.

Speaker 11 (02:14:56):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:14:56):
I agree, you know you don't get to do that one.
What else you got for us? Well with?

Speaker 15 (02:15:01):
Former Green Beret Randy Anderson has claimed he encountered what
he described as off world technology during a twenty fourteen
visit to an underground facility at the Naval Surface Warfare
Center Crane Division in Indiana. Anderson, who was the facility
or was at the facility for advanced weapons training, said
he and another soldier were escorted deep underground to a

(02:15:24):
secured area labeled off world technology. There, he reported seeing
a metallic basketball sized sphere levitating above a podium, which
he described as appearing unnatural and unlike any known material.
He also observed a bracelet like device displaying holographic symbols

(02:15:44):
resembling hieroglyphs, which he was told had caused the unliving
of a person involved in its recovery. Anderson, speaking to
Jesse Michaels, said the experience left him unsettled, with the
object defying his understanding of physics. He noted that instructors

(02:16:04):
of the facility treated the display as routine, which added
to his unease. Anderson also mentioned working as a contractor
at Area fifty one, where he claimed to have seen
triangular craft and anti with anti gravity capabilities. He said
his decision to speak out was influenced by other whistleblowers
like David Grush, who have shared similar accounts. The Naval

(02:16:27):
Surface Warfare Center Crane Division is a US naval facility
focused on technical support and engineering for military systems. Anderson's
claim suggest it may also house classified projects involving advanced
or non human technology, though no official confirmation exists. Some
online discussions have questioned the plausibility of his account, citing

(02:16:49):
the unlikelihood of a training participant accessing such sensitive materials,
and the overt labeling of a secret facility. Others noted
his military credit, including a weapons training certificate from Crane,
lend some credibility to his presence at the site. The
claim remains unverified and the Navy has not public publicly

(02:17:11):
addressed them.

Speaker 1 (02:17:13):
That would be weird. I wonder if he's going to
be one of the potential speakers coming up at the hearings.

Speaker 15 (02:17:24):
I was wondering the same thing when I ran across this,
because I remember reading a story with some of that
information in it before, and I was like, dang, I
wonder if he's going to be out there, because he didn't.
I think the first time he came out with his stories,
he was quite tentative and quite timid, and he really
didn't want to get into it. And then all of
a sudden he's like, Bam, okay, I'm out, and I'm

(02:17:45):
gonna tell this one over again, but with better detail.

Speaker 2 (02:17:48):
I was like, Okay, interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:17:52):
It is interesting because you know, eventually some of these
encounters are going to come through. Okay, they are going
to be coming out eventually when how much we don't
know we just cannot put a timeline on that as

(02:18:15):
it kind of moves forward. But I mean, if you
look at it, encounters like this and what he has
to say and what he experienced, we are going to
get more and more out like that. The problem is
is there a paper trail that goes along with it?

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
That's the issue.

Speaker 1 (02:18:34):
Where's the paper trail? And eventually, hopefully at some point
that paper trail comes through. That's what we're needing because
otherwise this is just going to remain. You know, his
story is no better than what and this isn't any
offense to the gentleman, but his story is no better

(02:18:54):
than what you and I are doing out at flight
twenty one, right, you know, like like things that we
have had happen out there, but we have it caught
on camera.

Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (02:19:07):
Yes, it's the same thing. Yeah, it's the same thing.
So eventually our audience watching the series of secrets in
the forest, they're gonna say, Dave, you know, why aren't
you catching this? Why aren't you you're telling us about it?
You were there, it happened, But where's the evidence? Where's
the proof?

Speaker 2 (02:19:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:19:28):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:19:29):
Yeah, that's when it comes down to, sure, does we.

Speaker 1 (02:19:32):
Got about four and a half minutes. What else you
got for us?

Speaker 2 (02:19:34):
All right?

Speaker 12 (02:19:36):
So?

Speaker 15 (02:19:36):
In twenty eleven, a disturbing encounter took place in the
remote tundra of Cougaruk, a small Inuit community in Nunavt, Canada,
far from the reach of mainstream UFO attention. A twenty
nine year old hunter named Aquadoc, in a rare oral
account recorded by a local elder and later transcribed in
an obscure Inuit cultural journal, was tracking caribou along at

(02:20:00):
dusk when the temperature dropped unnaturally fast and his dogs
began whimpering. Refusing to move. He noticed a low hum,
like a vibration in his bones, and saw a faint,
pulsating blue light hovering over the frozen creek bed about
one hundred meters away. Equi Luck described a shape, not
quite a craft, but a shimmering void roughly the size

(02:20:21):
of a small house, with edges that seemed to blur
into the air. It from it emerged two figures tall
and impossibly thin, with clear or excuse me, with no
clear limbs or heads, just shifting forms that seemed to
flicker like heat waves. They didn't approach him, but appeared
to study the ground, moving in a way that made

(02:20:43):
no sounds or tracks in the snow, Equilac felt an
overwhelming sense of being watched, not by eyes, but by
something that knew his thoughts. He later recalled a sharp
pain behind his eyes and a fleeting image of his
own box body lying lifeless on the tundra, as if

(02:21:03):
projected into his mind. The figures vanished into a void,
which collapsed inward and disappeared, leaving only the hum fading
into silence. His dogs bolted, and he found no physical evidence,
not even disturbed snow. When he mustered the courage to
approach the spot. What makes us encounter particularly unnerving is

(02:21:23):
the aftermath. He suffered, reoccurring nosebleeds and nightmares of the
tundra splitting open beneath him. His caribou rifle, which he
carried that night, was later found to be magnetized and
jammed or jamming its mechanisms inexplicably, He shared the story
only with his elders, refusing to speak to outsiders, fearing

(02:21:43):
spiritual repercussions of disbelief. The account never spread beyond the
community Askagarouks isolational lack of internet access at the time
kept it from wider notice. Skeptics might to hypothermia induced hallucination,
but the magnetized rifle and his lasting psychological distress described

(02:22:07):
as a fear of being unmade, suggested something more tangible.
The absence of the defined crap, the formless entities, and
the invasive metal or mental imagery make this obscure case
deeply unsettling, untouched by typical Ufon narratives.

Speaker 1 (02:22:29):
I believe this guy's story. Me too, I totally believe it,
you know. I mean, the Inuit people are extremely brave, resilient.
Nothing fases them. They've been face to face with polar bears,
They've been face to face with muskos, wolf packs, you

(02:22:52):
name it. Okay, when you live in that environment, you
know your environment more than anything, because there isn't a
lot of people up there, and these people are so
in tune with the land that they know an anomaly
when it happens. Oh yeah, okay, no question. And the

(02:23:13):
fact that there is physical evidence about this. I would
love to find out where that gun went. Yeah, I
would love to find out more about that, you know,
because this is something where there is physical evidence. Yes, right,
you don't have to believe his story, But you know,

(02:23:33):
for the gun to become magnetized and then to jam up,
that just doesn't happen when you're out in the snow.

Speaker 15 (02:23:42):
No, no, no, definitely, that's that is definitely. It's most
certainly incredible. I've never seen it, heard of it, or
anything like that before. So I believe him too.

Speaker 1 (02:23:54):
I believe it too.

Speaker 15 (02:23:55):
And I think his lack of the lack of it
being mainstream, I think sometimes lends a lot of credibility
to these stories as well. Right, So maybe we'll look
them up, get them on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:24:08):
That would be great. I don't really and I hate
to sound not understanding. I don't even know if they
have internet up there in certain communities.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (02:24:19):
Maybe starlink, Little Timmy James. But the UFO Report, great job,
Dave one on one and the Weird News of the Week.

Speaker 10 (02:24:26):
Next.

Speaker 1 (02:24:27):
This is based out radio and your votes. Name Scott, Hey, Timmy, Yes, sir,

(02:24:54):
I know I don't usually ask you to stick around
for the next half four mm hmm okay, but I
think this is when you may want to if you
have time.

Speaker 2 (02:25:06):
Okay, yeah, I can push it for a bit.

Speaker 1 (02:25:10):
I've kept this from you. Oh oh, I'm just saying
I've kept this from you. Yeah, but there is a reason. Okay,
I just can't say I'm holding off. Actually I will
say this. It involves lawy mm hmm. Okay, all right, yeah, yeah,

(02:25:34):
So no, that sounds good, no problem. Mm hmmmm.

Speaker 3 (02:25:43):
So la la la la la la.

Speaker 1 (02:25:46):
Ain't gonna be good. Don't forget. Next week we are
going to be redoing Tim and I are going to
be redoing the studio next week, so there will be
no live interview shows. But there is a good opportunity
to actually potentially get with us online during the time

(02:26:09):
we were working in studio, because we are going to
be doing audio tests and everything as we make some audio.
So we'd love it if you come hang out with us.
We do, and we're going to do, like I said,
a shift in the studio here, kind of make things
a little bit more modern and updated rather than just
looking like a bunch of clutter, which I'm kind of over. Yeah, right,

(02:26:34):
so we're going to figure it out. We're going to
get things going and kind of go from there. Big
thank you tonight to Richard Minnick for becoming the newest
member of our YouTube membership. I'm still trying to figure
out what we're going to do there, and I will
be taking ideas on that because it's easy for me

(02:26:56):
to hop on and just say, hey, how you doing
for an hour or so have a private conversation, but
I want to be able to do a little bit
more than that. Thank you Adam for christ appreciate you
coming on in and joining our chat. Thank you, says
yeah for this cool and interesting stuff. Yeah cool, thank you.

(02:27:17):
Will there will the swag be ugly during the remodel,
Yes it will, Yes, it will. But we are going
to be taking that break. It's much needed because there's
a lot of things that we have to try and
figure out what we're doing here in studio, how we
want to set it up. And you know, we got

(02:27:39):
a couple of technical issues like the cameras that we
got to figure out. I got a new mixing board
that we got to set up here as well. So
there's a lot that needs to go on as we
as we continue it. So we just want to kind
of let you guys know what's happening, so that way
you're not cut off guard.

Speaker 2 (02:27:59):
You know, yeah, right, hot, that's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (02:28:03):
It will be We have no idea what we're doing,
but we're just doing it, apparently Lee does. Yeah, I
do have an idea though, cool. I do have an idea.
Instead of facing this way, we're gonna face the TV
way mm hmm okay, or we're gonna face the window

(02:28:28):
way and have the TV. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be
this way or this way, but not this way or
this way.

Speaker 2 (02:28:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:28:41):
No, side to side, not front the back going this way,
not this way.

Speaker 2 (02:28:55):
Ah, thanks Joe.

Speaker 1 (02:28:57):
Yes, eventually here even Actually, I would say within the
next couple months, Tim will have a new chair.

Speaker 2 (02:29:04):
Yeah like this.

Speaker 1 (02:29:05):
Actually, in fact, I think my dad is bringing one
up tomorrow. Oh nice. Yeah, yeah, then we'll toss the
other one.

Speaker 3 (02:29:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:29:17):
Yeah. When is the next Flight twenty one video coming out?
We just put the one out that I screwed up on,
so it will be next week that it'll be out.
The reason why we're going to every two weeks now
on the Flight twenty one videos is because there's going

(02:29:38):
to come a time where we Hi, Hi, Philip Blair.
There's going to come a time where we need to
stop going there, okay, because of the winter coming, and
there's going to be a time where we're not going
to be able to get out there for at least
five months, four to five months, depending on the snow.
We're going to go as long as we can, but

(02:30:00):
once that snow gets thick, we're not going to be
able to get in there. It's just too dangerous. So
we'll figure that out as we go. All right, we
got about fifteen seconds. Thank you to Bob, Pam, Mel, Joe,
Jco and CS for the super chats. Greatly appreciate the love,
and we're coming back here in five seconds. Everybody, Here

(02:30:35):
we go with the final half hour of spaced Out
Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott, The Dave one
oh one is coming up next along with the weird
news of the week. So we got a jam packed
half hour for you. Hey, we want to remind everybody
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(02:31:17):
of the week where I yell at each and every
one of you to get off my lawn. It's a
dave one on one.

Speaker 11 (02:31:30):
Here.

Speaker 7 (02:31:38):
I can see you up about this. I always get
want to sit.

Speaker 6 (02:31:42):
Down, save the stress.

Speaker 1 (02:32:03):
We're going to do this a little bit differently tonight.
I've actually got Tim James hanging on out here because
we want to talk about tonight the dangers of going
into places that you are not familiar with. And what
I mean by this is flight twenty one.

Speaker 2 (02:32:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
There are areas all around North America and the world
that literally have these hotspots that are weird, strange, where
you do not know what's coming around the next bend,
the next corner, or coming off the next trail. We
are experiencing that Tim and I on a very weekly

(02:32:46):
basis when we head out there. And one of our investigators,
Lollie Bennett, came out with us. She is our First
Nation's drummer and singer, and we wanted to see how
things would go with her out there. And I've been
out there twice with her, Tim once and she hasn't
been back since. And a lot of people on our
YouTube channel and on our social media are asking when

(02:33:09):
is Lolly coming back out. I wish I had an answer,
but I don't. Well, I kind of do, and that
is she doesn't know.

Speaker 3 (02:33:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:33:23):
It isn't anything Tim has done or I have done. No,
it's about what the location has done.

Speaker 10 (02:33:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:33:34):
Tim and I have been very, very open to the
fact that Flight twenty one is not for everybody. There
are people up there who have gone up there who
it's the energy has just shifted into something negative or
something unresponsive. The phenomena really dictates who is allowed up

(02:33:57):
there and who is not. It's going to be interesting
to see this weekend how the phenomena reacts with my
dad up there. And I'm curious about that because really
my dad isn't invited, but he's got a curiosity that
I figured, you know what, at seventy six years old,
he could go wherever he wants. If he wants to
hang out with me in the forest, by gosh, he's

(02:34:18):
going to do that. And that's what we're going to do.
But as Lee Strauss from Element one point fifteen on
our YouTube channel explained a little bit to us, you
know with on with Merle and even after the weekend
when we were up there, he said, this is a
different place. Everything that you guys have said on the

(02:34:41):
air is true and more. But I want to bring
up Lolly's story here for a second because I've been
concerned with her because recently she was very excited to
be a part of this project. Still is okay. So
this started this month where I said, making sure you're

(02:35:03):
going in for tonight, and she goes. I've been doing
lots of integration and my body is catching up to
upgrades and transmutation of energies fascinating and beautiful. I've checked
in with my intuitive guidance every day since you asked
whether or not I should go tonight, and I keep
getting a no. Learning to trust, so I won't be
able to come tonight. My body is fatigued. It needs

(02:35:25):
time to catch up. I'll hold harmonic residents here while
you're there. Not a problem. Tim and I have a
rule that basically says, if you're not feeling up to
it that night, we don't go.

Speaker 12 (02:35:37):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:35:38):
Okay, if Tim's not feeling up to it or I'm
not feeling up to it, we don't go. That's already
happened during our investigation correct.

Speaker 2 (02:35:47):
Him, Yes, sir, okay, definitely.

Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
So last week I sent her another message. I said,
we'd love to have you join on Saturday. She says,
I don't feel myself. This week has been very challenging.
Not sure if it's related or not to our visits,
but it started Saturday and I've had a difficulty on

(02:36:12):
and off with fear, panic, and doubt. Your thoughts, she says,
I feel vulnerable and exposed, doing all my checks and
holding love and peace within. It comes and goes, but
it's uncomfortable for sure. I said, well, this is new
to you. We are talking or taking you into realms

(02:36:33):
you don't know about, but you are safe. The doubt
you have is normal. So out of that. Because we
are heading into another weekend, I've been following this up
and I said, I'm checking in to see how you're
doing today. She goes, Honestly, I wonder if something may
have attached to me because what I experienced the last

(02:36:53):
couple of weeks was not pleasant. Lol. Do you think
that is possible. I felt so much fear and doubt
for a few days after the full moon that I
was seriously concerned for my well being, full of dips
of anxiety, which is not normal to me. I know
it's new because I have been exposed to other realms

(02:37:14):
and beings before and have had this feeling of not
being safe before. I am now getting to the point
I can talk about it without feeling it my body,
but it's suddenly there. The negative loops of thoughts was
unsettling for sure. How your last couple visits been, she says,
I've really felt like I did something wrong and exposed
myself to something I wasn't ready for or not strong

(02:37:37):
enough for. It has been a challenge to challenge rather
to balance it back out. Here's my response to it,
I said, the last couple of visits have been interesting.
We've needed you there. To be honest, I have a
feeling I know what's going on. You don't have an attachment. Spiritually,
the phenomena is awakening you. It could be scary. This

(02:38:03):
has happened to me, it happened years ago. We could
definitely work with you on this, She goes, I'm not
sure I'm ready to go back out yet, but definitely
open to further discussions. It was intense and I really
felt like I was under attack. So this is something
that we have to deal with. No, it's not demonic.
Now it's easy for me to say that, okay, but

(02:38:26):
nobody up there has ever felt anything demonic. We throw
around demon the word demon or demonology or demonic very easily.
Here's my thing with it, Tim, and the reason why
I read that, And that's a very personal conversation that
you know, maybe I shouldn't have said it. But when
you go into these locations and you are not prepared, see,

(02:38:50):
Lally is somebody who is who is building up her
spiritual well being. We are into an area where the
phenomena dictates what happens. It's not my spirituality, it's not
Tim's spirituality. It's nothing about that. It's about the phenomena

(02:39:13):
pushing you to realms and experiences that you may not
be ready for. The one thing that I've learned about
the phenomena over the years is that it literally will
give you as much as it thinks you can handle.
And I've truly believed that Lolly got a little spooked

(02:39:35):
with how close those tree knocks were. Okay, the week
before the unsettled energies of smelling a wet dog, remember that, Yes,
that's right, Okay, so any demon talk can get off
my lawn, that's for sure, right, totally get off my lawn.

(02:39:57):
We're not talking that. We're not talking d everything's demons
with you. No, what I do I don't think or
feel that anything is attached to her. But what I
do feel is that the phenomena is like, Okay, lolly,
you want to play the game. Let's let's see what
you can take. Let's see what. I'm going to feed
you a bunch of wo here, and we're going to

(02:40:21):
actually see how much you could take. It's happened to me, Tim,
it's happened to you up there already, where you have
questioned your own morality, your own sanity, your own worries,
and to the point where you were actually holding back information.

Speaker 2 (02:40:37):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:40:38):
Okay. And now as we've talked about it, and as
we've discussed it, you feel a lot more open and
candid to take that conversation and say, well, let's see
what happens.

Speaker 2 (02:40:51):
Yes, how do you feel about that? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (02:40:54):
No, it's true, and you're right. I felt Yeah, there
was a lot of well not a lot. I shouldn't
say it like that. Yes, there was some points where yeah,
it seemed to challenge to see how much we can take,
and it was Lolly got a lot of response. I mean,

(02:41:15):
I don't blame her one little bit. She's as far
as I'm concerned, she falls under the same rules that
you and I do. If you don't want to be there,
that don't be there. That's you know, if you trust
your guy, right, And but she got so much response
from her drumming. She you know, she was picking up
on stuff without you and I even hinting. We just

(02:41:36):
walked around and she'd stop, you know, and we're kind
of doing that behind her and smiling like, man, she's
nailing it. So I would say, yeah, I think that
they accepted her. Whatever's up there that accepted us has
accepted her. But I think it's it came at her
a lot harder and faster than it did with us.

(02:41:59):
I think we were kind kind of kid gloved in
where you know, they just were like, hey, we like her,
and everything glommed onto her and basically came and you know,
talked to her and all that sort of stuff. And
I think, yeah, I think it was a little overwhelming,
and I don't blame her. I think she just needs
to kind of ground herself again, and I'm really hoping

(02:42:20):
that she comes back up.

Speaker 1 (02:42:22):
Well, you know what, And here's the thing. And I
don't say this to be insult of to Lulli or
anybody else out there, but there's a lot of spiritual
growth and a lot of people out there who think
this is all peace, love and light. If I could
clear my chakras, if I could clear my mind, if
I could clear my soul spiritually and bring in the
good exit the bad, I'm going to be great. That

(02:42:46):
is such a small speck of the phenomena that if
you all of a sudden get thrust into a situation
where you now are dealing with something that is controlling
an area like we have at Flight twenty one, it's
difficult to try and make sense of it. And when

(02:43:08):
you're not used to the energy, you are not used
to the phenomena acting in this realm because it is
out of your comfort zone. That's where you get a
little bit more of a how can I put it,
a discernment of what is not comfortable. And I think

(02:43:29):
the phenomena has hit her. It's punched her right in
the gut, unfortunately. But it did that to me. I survived,
and you know, I became a lot stronger, and I
think that she will eventually come back. I really do,
and I hope so at least me too. So we
need her out there. We do. What she made happen

(02:43:51):
both occasions was absolutely phenomenal pun intended with the word phenomena.
And that's what we have to concentrate on. And I
will be talking to her a little bit more to
kind of ease her tension around going back there. Because
locations like Flight twenty one or Skinwalker Ranch, Bradshaw Ranch,

(02:44:15):
blind Frog Ranch, or any other place of extreme high strangeness,
it's not a tourist attraction. It is not something that
you can just sit there and say, well, guess what,
I'm going to be a part of this, and I'm
going to bring out my little EMF detector or I'm
going to bring out my ghost box, a douce of EVPs.

(02:44:39):
You have to be prepared. And there are times when
Tim and I have come out of Flight twenty one
where we're like, should we actually go back?

Speaker 2 (02:44:48):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (02:44:49):
Okay, is it worth going back? And yet here we are,
and here we go, just like we will this weekend.
We will the weekend after and the weekend after and
so on and so on and so on and so on.
But that's what we are doing. That's the way we're

(02:45:10):
going to take it. And for Lollie, I just hope
that she could get over her fear and get over
her anxiety of the of the area and the phenomena.
And if she does, boy is it going to be phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (02:45:25):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (02:45:28):
So now you know what's going on, Timmy James, thank
you for sticking around for that. Appreciate your Yeah. All right,
as we say good night to Tim, we're going to
fire up the weird news of the week. As God
is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

Speaker 12 (02:45:48):
L Here is the latest bulletin from the under Continental
Radio News.

Speaker 6 (02:45:54):
I am good at things, fighting and reading the news.

Speaker 1 (02:45:58):
It's time once again or spaced out radios weird news
of the week. All right, let's get it going. We're
gonna start with the WNBA here, where an Ohio man
has turned himself into police after allegedly throwing a green
sex toy during the New York Liberty Game that struck

(02:46:21):
a twelve year old girl in the leg. Oh come on,
come on, who does that? There's kids there man, thirty
two year old Charles Burgess, apparently does. He's from Dayton, Ohio.
He was arraigned on ten criminal charges, including felony assault
with a weapon. Well, I didn't know a sex toy

(02:46:41):
could be a weapon, but you learn something new every day,
interfering with a sporting event and obscenity, The man's lawyer
says prosecutors want to find others throwing similar sex toys
at women basketball players. According to a report by ESPN,
there is a nationwide publicity effort underway to market a

(02:47:03):
new crypto coin that involves throwing green sex toys, often
in the shape of a penis, at WNBA players. According
to Burgess's lawyer, the Brooklyn District Attorney's Office wants to
crack down on this trend yep. The Brooklyn DA's office
has indicated a desire to speak to the defense, particularly

(02:47:24):
in regards to others' involvements in the fast spreading phenomena
occurring at WNBA venues, Paul Demila wrote in an email.
The Brooklyn DA's office declined to comment. Demilia said Burgess
surrendered to authorities in Brooklyn after driving overnight from Ohio,
where he owns an autobody shop and has six children.

(02:47:45):
Authorities said on August fifth, Burgess threw the green sex
toy that hit a girl in her right leg before
fleeing on foot. The victim experienced pain but was not hospitalized. Well,
that's good, Burgess pleaded not I don't mean to laugh.
He pleaded not guilty to the charges. A judge released

(02:48:06):
him pending a December court date. Yeah, he intends to
vigorously fight these embellished, exaggerated charges. As his lawyer, no
one was actually struck by the object, rendering any of
the included assault charges unsustainable. Why would you bring a

(02:48:29):
sex toy to a WNBA game? I don't get it.
Maybe that's just me. I don't I just don't get it.
All right, let's see if we got another one here.
All right? There are plenty of places where no one
would bat an eyelid at the sighting of a thong
bikini on a beach in Brazil or a round Love
Island fire pit visible but cheeks are practically de risure.

(02:48:54):
But first sighting this year was not well surfing in Australia,
sunbathing in the Caribbean, but in the open water swimming
spot on a rainy day in Scotland. Yeah, apparently this
phenomena of showing butt cheeks both men and women is
catching on very much now. The writer says they should

(02:49:14):
not have been surprised. Tiny swim gear is huge news
this summer. It's no longer confined to sunny climates, but
cropped up everywhere, from liddos to leisure centers and locks
in between. The trickle down from catwalks and influencers and
holidaymakers and laingerie stores really has pushed the limit on this.

(02:49:37):
A search for thong bikini on Assos eels one hundred
and eighty seven results ranging from the high leg styles
to side ties to tanga whatever that is somewhere between
a thong and a standard brief. Apparently, well, this is
going on all over the place, says Victoria. She says,
I won't lie. It's really nerve wracking. Initially when she

(02:49:58):
wore a thong for the firs time on a recent
solo trip to Naples, and for many new converts, part
of the appeal laying in fact that she would be
able to avoid the significant tan lines created by fuller
coverage swimwear. I saw thong bikinis everywhere, and I wished
I could wear one. But then I thought about it,
and I was like, it's just a bum. Many men

(02:50:19):
wear these teeny tiny trunks where you can see everything,
So why can't I wear this? Plus it's really comfy. Well,
apparently it's going all over the place. Gen Z in
particular are less inclined to restrict themselves to clothes, deeming
it flattering, a term that has fallen spectacularly out of favor.
Thong bikinis, though once the preserve of those who could

(02:50:41):
form to the particular body type, are now being manufactured
into a more inclusive range of sizes and marketed more diversely.
Women of all shapes and sizes are leaning into boulder
cuts with real confidence as a part of wider cultural
shift forward toward body positivity. You know what I'm gonna
say this. I know I'm a dude. Okay, I know

(02:51:02):
I'm a dude. But ladies, if you're comfortable doing that,
go for it.

Speaker 2 (02:51:09):
Go for it.

Speaker 1 (02:51:11):
Why not? Why not? If men can wear these really
skimpy banana hammocks, Okay, you go, girl, You show off
those butt cheeks and you make sure those tan lines
are good. For you, nobody else. Do it for yourself
because you're lovely no matter who you are, what you are,
what size you are, You're all beautiful out there because

(02:51:34):
Dave is just spreading the love. Spreading the love. When
it comes to whatever women want to do, you know what,
That's what you get for being a father of two girls.
You know, just absolutely go for it. And hey, if
you like the old school ways of covering up your
butt cheeks, you can do that too. That's all you

(02:51:55):
can do. Do what makes you feel comfortable. That's what
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