Aug, 23/25 - PARANORMAL & VAMPIRES: Stepping Into The Unknown w/ Keith Evans - Spaced Out Radio

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It's gonna be a fantastic show here tonight. We have
Keith Evans joining us talking paranormal in vampires, stepping into
the unknown, and we're not gonna waste any time. Guys,

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We're gonna go ahead and get right on into the show.
As we bring up our guests for the night, mister
Keith Evans, how are you, Keith?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
How are you good?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yes? Doing well? Doing well? You know, paranormal in vampires.
I talk about vampires because it has been one topic
that I've been interested in since a child. And you know,
every Halloween as a young child, I would to find
the plastic Dracula teeth. I literally wanted to change my

(02:37):
teeth to Dracula teeth for real, like in real life,
so this has been a big passion of mind. You know,
there's a lot of people out there, and truthfully myself
as well. Vampires, Dracula. What's the difference. There's definitely got
to be a difference there, and I'd love to hear
that from you. But let's start out with what got

(02:57):
you started? What got you interested in and maybe not
just vampires, but just the paranormal in general. Have you
had the experiences? Let's start there.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Well, what got me interested in the paranormal was the
fact that I was a.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Somewhat of an endpath.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I could feel other people's joy, certain joy that they
had in things. For instance, like one of my relatives
had owned the house. It had been in my mother's
side of the family, probably since about eighteen fifty, and
they had some really nice wainscotting that's the clear finish

(03:41):
where you can see the wooden grain, and to me,
it was just beautiful and it just made me happy
every time I saw it.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Of course, my mother.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Thought I was a little bit weird, but anyway, I
was feeling the happiness that this wooden grain had, you know,
brought to family members in the past. I was feeling
the pride that they had by having that type of
wooden grain on the inside.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Of their house.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I'm sure for the time from the eighteen fifties, it
probably cost a pretty penny to have that type of
wood inside of your home, and that's why they were
probably so proud of it.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
And I could feel that. But everyone thought.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
For a four year old, I was a little bit
out of place by feeling the way I was feeling,
and I didn't feel that way at all.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I thought that.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I was just right on the money and I was
just picking up on something that they were unable to
pick up on. So that's how I first got interested
in the paranormal. I knew there was something out there
more than what most people were playing existed, and as
far as vampires, I started thinking about vampires I guess

(04:57):
about late elements or early middle school.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
There was a program on TV.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
It was a British sitcom in the late sixties or
early seventies called Dark Shadows, and Barnabas was my hero
and I always wanted to figure out how he did
what he did, and that brought me to writing my book,

(05:27):
Vampires Did or Alive. And No, I don't really enjoy
writing a book. I don't really enjoy writing essays, but
I do enjoy letting others know about my, you know,
point of view concerning vampires. And it was a point

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of view that no other person that I know of
had ever written about. So I wanted to write something
so brand new. Of course, it's the same vampire and
the same history vampire characteristics, but no one had ever
went out of their way to try to explain how
a vampire do what they do. To me, they're like superheroes.

(06:12):
I didn't really have a superhero like Popeye to Sailor
Man or Hercules or Batman or Superman. I always liked
Barnabas Collins. He was the vampire on the British sitcom
Dark Shadows, so he was my childhood if you want

(06:35):
to say, comic book or TV hero, and I always
wanted an opportunity to explain how Barnabas and other vampires
do what they do. And as I went further and
father in school. I have a four year degree in chemistry,

(06:55):
as I took more classes astronomy classes, chemistry classes, physics classes,
come excuse me, that allowed me to say, hey, maybe
that's how the vampire.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Did what he did.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
So For instance, in my book, I take a look
at how vampires shapeshift, and I feel what they do.
They bend space and time, and I'm a firm believer
in reincarnation. I think our soul has been in and
out of many different types of species, probably species throughout
the universe for probably thousands, if not millions of years.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
So a vampire can bend.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Space and time locally, just for themselves, not for anyone
else that's in the room, and then go back to
a time where maybe they were just a soul, maybe
they didn't have a biological body, and then they just vanish,
or they could go back to a time where they
were a bat and then they would turn them into to.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
A bat and fly away.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
There's your question. You definitely have an interesting perspective on
vampires and that that was awesome, and we're going to
actually get into that. What was the what was it
that interested you in vampires? Like, what characteristics, what was
it that you admired about, you know, Dracula or vampires.

(08:25):
Did you ever want to be one yourself or how
did you approach that?

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Well, I think there's probably a little bit of vampire
and all of us. I feel the vampires have probably
been on Earth for a long period of time that
they're probably extraterrestrial. There might be some vampires that are
actually from Earth, but I think the first vampires were
probably extraterrestrial, and I.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Think that they interbreeded with humans.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
In fact, the vampires might have been the the intelligent
beings that manipulated our DNA so that we were more
like them, so they could, you know, breed with us.
And if you know anything about vampires, you know that
they can't be exposed to our stars sunlight because it'll

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denature their DNA and kill them. So I guess they
had every motivation to try to interbreed with humans and
make humans more like them, so they could have offspring
that could be at least be exposed to some of air,
star light, some of the Sun's light without becoming immediately denatured.

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And denatured is just the unraveling of your DNA which
will kill you.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
So when you come in a proses, and I'm sure
a lot of people are wondering how vampires and spaceships
or spacecraft intersect and and how they relate in your mind,
how are you coming to these conclusions? Like what about
you know you're looking into vampires over the years, has

(10:10):
made you feel that they could be, you know, potentially
in the extraterrestrial category.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Well, I feel that if a vampire can spend hundreds
of years locked away in a coffin and survive, that
they can certainly survive, you know, a long time traveling
from say one universe to the other universe. And that's

(10:43):
one reason why I feel they're very durable. All they
have to do if they get sick and tired of
riding on their spaceship, they can just de materialize. They
don't have to deal with it anymore. So that's one
reason why I feel that they're they're just very durable species.

(11:07):
If anyone could survive long term space travel, you know,
they can pretty much just go into their own little
dream state coma and escape whatever boredom that they have
on the spaceship. If I guess the chain of command
on the spaceship allows them to do that.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
So you have, you know, obviously a lot of people
have growed up watching you know, the pop culture version
of vampires, which we interview with the vampire Dracula, the
old film. You know what we're in the history of Dracula.

(11:50):
Are you able to point to some historical references that
could be interpreted as maybe related to extraterrestial or something,
you know, outside of just what we understand vampires to be.
Is there anything in the history that you can point
to that says, yeah, okay, that could be potentially you know,

(12:11):
them saying it's an extraterrestrial.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Well, I don't know if I could point to anything
concerning Dracula, but I think vampires in general, they're definitely
there's no other species like that on Earth so that
I know of, So the they'd have to come from

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someplace else.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I mean, they're so different.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I mean, how many species on Earth can send messages
telepathically like a vampire can?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Okay, you know, you know there's I.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Don't know if any species that can quickly shape shift
or de materialize the way of vampire or can. I know,
certain animals like can go from a worm to a butterfly,
but it takes time biologically. So I think that in itself,

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would you know, lead anyone to suspect that they were
from another planet, that they were extraterrestrial?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, you know, I kind of like that. Actually, I'm
just looking at that because a lot of people like, okay,
what are the comparisons, and when you talk about telepathy, okay,
I could definitely see that, you know, they kind of
just falls right in there. And then shape shifting what
should be another one? You know, these are definitely two
pieces of the phenomena that we identify with for other things.

(13:50):
So when you apply that the Dracula, it kind of
makes sense, it kind of. But what is the I'm
not up on the full knowledge on the ore gens
of Dracula. What do they what have? Do you know
anything about that? What have they written about? Like the origins?
If you were to go read a book about Jacula, Well, he.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Was actually a man who h was it eastern Europe?
And apparently his family was in charge. They were like
lived in the castle. I guess his father was king.
His father was a ruler, and apparently his father and

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the rest of the family were killed and he was
put into prison as a teenager or a young you know,
at least a teenage or preteenaged boy, and he was
put through a lot and he vowed if he ever
got free, he was going to get reveal.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I know more about that. There are so many versions
of TV.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Movie Dracula, That to me is just kind of like
Hollywood's showing you entertainment. But as far as what I've
read about him historically, he just lived a very tortured life.

(15:29):
I don't really think the gentleman himself was probably a vampire.
I think he was a He had been abused, and
he turned out to be a real good abuser of
other people too. I mean, to scare people away and
to intimidate people, he took, you know, the men that

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had been killed, or at least if they weren't dead
they were gonna die. He would put a sharper poll,
you know, between their legs and drive it all the
way through and come out around their neck, and then
put them alongside the road. So if anyone else was

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traveling along to his castle who wanted to give him
a hard time, you know, they would say, well, that's
what happened to this guy, and he gave Draktyla a
hard time.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I'm not really.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
One hundred percent convinced that the historical Dracula was a vampire.
If anything, modern gave us a modern version of what
we know to be a vampire. But I'm not really
sure if that person was a vampire. If anything, he

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was just a horribly abused person that grew up to
be an adult who had power, and he dished out
a lot of abuse to everyone else.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
So that's that's the way I look at it.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, and I'm looking at some of the history on it,
and you know, I'm just seeing that there definitely have
been comparisons throughout history to from Dracula to Aliens, which is,
you know, actually eye opening because I had not ever
considered it to be a thing, but it was very

(17:23):
interesting in the way that you were, you know, posing it.
I watched a previous interview you were in and the
whole idea of Dracula being more than just that, I
mean because it truthfully, it would make more sense because
when we talk about all of the unknowns under the phenomena,
which is Bigfoot, Aliens, cryptids, all like fifty one hundred

(17:48):
different cryptids that maybe something like that could fall into category.
I mean, it just makes sense. There's a lot of
characteristics that do line up yup, and so I would
have to look more into the history of Dracula to
see what if some of those events could be explained

(18:10):
as extraterrestrial or not. It would be interesting to know,
because that would be a hybrid human. Essentially, we talk
about hybrid humans when we talk about humans interact or
hybridization with aliens. So why couldn't Dracula be a result
of that as well? That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, it's a possibility.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
But I would say that vampires in general are a
combination of cryptids and also extraterrestrials and also fall into
the paranormal category. I think they're like a triple whammy.
They fit into all three of those categories.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
And so talking about your book, what does your book
focus on? What aspect of this like are you able
to kind of go into some of the things you
talk about environment that empire is dead or alive?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Well, each chapter is based on a certain ability of
a vampire, and.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
For instance, I look.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
At how a vampire became who they are, and it
could have been certain mutations that take place in the body,
because that's what happened to vampire bats. Vampire bats apparently
originally did not drink blood, and over the centuries they

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lost certain I guess you could say certain amino acids,
and by losing those amino.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Acids or.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
It calls them to be adapted to drink blood. It
caused their stomach to be able to absorb the iron
because blood is rich in iron, and their stomach lining
will absorb the iron. And then their stomach lining changes

(20:26):
more or less, falls off, dies and is discharged with
their waists and then it grows back and it starts
absorbing iron out of the blood stream because you know,
too much iron is not good.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
For you know, any species.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
So if you don't drink blood, you got to get
rid of that iron. So I have a chapter where
I just look at mutations as far as I explore
all avenues how a person could become a vampire. And
I did that by looking at studies that different people

(21:09):
have did over the years concerning the vampire bats that
live in Central and South America.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
So that was interesting.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Also I look at things like why doesn't a vampire
have a reflection in the mirror? And the situation is
if a vampire is exposed to our starlight and our
starlight kills it by the nature and its DNA, then

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the vampire has probably developed some type of technology so
that light will bend around it and not touch it,
whether it's some type of shield or some type of
electromagnetic energy which causes the light just to bend around it.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
And then that that that's why they don't have a
mirror image.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
But then at the same time others have said, well,
how can we get how can we see them? The
flight's bending around them, So that's also another situation. And
it could be that they can turn their shield on
and off, so you know, maybe if they're out in

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the sunlight, the shield is going to be on. Maybe
if they're inside, the shield would be off. But most
mirrors that I know of are inside, so it's not
full proof, but it explores it and looks at you know,
the whole situation of a vampire not having a mirror image.
It could also be that the vampire is telepathically beaming

(22:52):
their information, their audio, and their video directly into your brain.
So your eyes interpret that and your audio, your ears
interpret that the vampire is standing in the room in
front of the mirror, but when you look in the mirror,
the vampires not there.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
That it might be because they're really not.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
They're just sending that message to you directly into your brain. Now,
also it could be that the vampire is communicating with you,
but they're in another dimension.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
They're not in the same dimension.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
That we're in, kind of like the multiverse situation, and
that might be one reason why they don't have a
mirror image.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
So I just look at things like that.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
What makes you well, I guess we have about thirty
seconds here because I want to see what was the
thought or what was the incident that initially started you
on this path because thinging outside of the box can
see where some things line up and would make sense.
But I want to talk about what was the incident

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that made you come to this recollection, this aha moment.
We'll go ahead and get to that and more right
after the break, right here on Space Out Radio, the
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Speaker 3 (24:55):
Hi, did you want me to answer that question?

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We'll do it right after the break, all right, yep,
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that I had for Teeth right before the break, which
was essentially, what was the moment where you started connecting
these dots and coming to conclusions that vampires might be extraterrestrial? Like,

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what were some of the first thoughts or ideas you
had when you came to that when it clicked like, hey,
wait a minute, these might be related.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Well, I don't think it was when I was younger.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
When I was younger, I used to think that vampires
would just be within the paranormal range. But I think
it was some time after I received my degree in chemistry.
I didn't get my degree in chemistry until I was
fifty years old, and with all the courses I took,
I just thought, well, it's leaning more and more towards

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a very intelligent being with a lot of technology that
we don't even understand yet on Earth. So that's what
led me to believe they're probably extraterrestrial. And I think
they still fall into cryptids, I would say, because they're

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still pretty much unknown. I mean, I don't know any
you know, sometimes there's people that put on for show
and drink a little blood. But I can fall out
of a tree, but that doesn't mean I'm a bird
and I can fly.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
I might be flying for a few.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Seconds until I hit the ground, but I still feel that,
you know, they're paranormal also, But I would say it
was some time after I got my degree in chemistry
that it started to make sense that they were probably extraterrestrial.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Vampires, Yeah, you know, I want vampires to be real.
I want them to be so real, you know, the
living forever aspect, the immortality. Uh, there's some the being
able to fly, right, because these are things they show
you in the movies and things that I connected to

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as a kid. This is why I wanted to be
a vampire. I wanted to give up my human life
and become a vampire. That's I mean, it was that deep.
But when we look at this, it makes sense when
you explain it in that way where it's like, Okay,
it could be encryptid because there's a lot of weird
things in the crypti category, a lot of just strange things.

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And the more I look at it, there's an image
called the Alien Timeline which I bring up from time
to time, and it shows drawn descriptions of aliens as
described over the years, starting at Roswell, and there are
a lot of weird extra terrestrials listed in there, like

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some that look like e walks and you know, little
hairy creatures, and it's like not the typical what you
would think for extraterrestrial. So is there at the end
of the day, you'd have to start wondering if you
could consider the cryptied bucket and the parent and the
alien bucket as one, like do they cross over? Because

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how do you know that something's an alien versus a cryptid.
You know, they're both just these weird creatures, So how
would you really know? And so it makes sense when
you put vampires into the cryptied category, how you could
then go a step further and say, hey, maybe extraterrestrial
that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Well, I'd like to say one thing about vampires being
able to live forever they surely do live a long
time as compared to you, and I feel that vampires
really don't die of old age. They can be destroyed.
I think if a vampire, if there's an explosion, you know,

(35:15):
I think the vampire would be dead.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
That would be it. It would be it would be destroyed.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Or if they're exposed to severe radiation radioisotopes, I think
that would kill a vampire. And I also feel that
a vampire could be burned or melted and destroyed that way.
But I think if a vampire is allowed to just
not go under any severe trauma, I think that they

(35:44):
can pretty much live forever. And I feel that the
planet that vampires came from probably is a planet where
life is kind of cheap on Earth if you look
at it one way, I mean, everything eats something else.

(36:04):
So maybe vampires came from a planet where you don't
eat another animal. You just drink some of their blood
and allow them to live, which to me would be
pretty you made if you look at it that way.
I mean, if you look at you know, I'm ate chicken, hamburger, pork.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
That means a.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Pig had to die, a cow had to dye, a
chicken had to die. If a vampire just drinks a
little bit of their blood within a couple of days,
they're going to build that blood back up.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
In their own system.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
So I really think that, you know, vampires have come
from a planet where life is so sacred that you
don't eat it any living fade. You might borrow some
of its nutritious blood, so you can live.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Off of it as far as your nutrition. But that's
the way I look at it.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
And you know, it seems like if you can frighten someone,
you can manipulate them. Anything that's different to most human beings.
They're afraid of it, whether it looks different, it sounds different,
it thinks different, And vampires are definitely different. But I say,

(37:25):
you know, don't be a ka man with technology. Look
at the vampire, understand the vampire. Don't be afraid of
the vampire just because the vampire is different. But maybe
there is some way.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
That vampire technology could assist us in helping us to
live forever. You know, maybe if we had a vampire
friend and he said, hey, let me adjust your DNA,
mister Evans, and then you'll never die of old.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Age, you know, I'd say, well, go ahead, I'll be
writing about the paranormal.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I gotta tell you, I was a kid when I
wanted to live forever. Now that I've lived and I
see what this world is, I don't know that. I'm
more and more like, nah, this one time is okay.
You know, I think I'm okay with the one time.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
So what what do you do? When? What do you
do when you know there are obviously people who are
gonna hear what you're saying right now, I'm like, come on, Keith,
come on, They're gonna like, okay, you're talking. You're talking
vampires is aliens? Hey, vampires don't even exist, Keith. You

(38:43):
know when you have people saying that to you, like,
what what are some of the think the the things
you could point to out, you know, some things that
say no, no, the vampire tale is true. And this
is the reason. Why will there be anything you're able
to do too?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
I can't I can't prove that I'm not some type
of AI recreation, you know, I can't prove that I'm
not in some sophisticated.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
TV show where I'm just AI generated. I can't prove that.
So certainly, I.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that vampires exist or
coast exist. But I've actually had experiences where I feel
that they exist.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
But until that, until all people had those experiences, then
I can understand them feeling that it doesn't exist. But
for the.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
People who have had paranormal experiences, then of course they're
a believer after that.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
So talk to us about some of those experiences that
you've had. Those might actually help out because once again,
we we've making vampires and put them in a category
of cribtis and nextraterrustrial, which makes sense when we break
it down, it makes sense to put it in that category.
But for someone who is like, you know, is there

(40:14):
a historical incident where Dracula supposedly played a role, not
maybe not Dracula himself, but just a vampire, Like are
there reports out there like the same way that you
have like mothman reports out there of you know, a
mysterious creature flying through the night. Do you have any

(40:35):
Are there any of those same sort of stories for
vampire's current day.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Well, when I was a when I was a child
growing up in Maryland, the used to have a newspaper
called News American, and the News American we've run a
lot of I guess you could say, paranormal type situations

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where they were reporting on anything from bigfoot to vampires.
And they were reporting on people who were not killed,
but who had bites on their body in different areas,

(41:27):
not just a neck where it looked like someone had
drained out blood. So I remember that from back in
the early seventies. And you know, in Maryland, Maryland, part
of Maryland I lived in was kind of conservative and religious,
and of course anyone who wanted to do paranormal research,

(41:51):
they fought was somewhat delusional.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
So it was very hard to.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Find people who wanted to even read about it much more,
let's talk about it. So when I saw this in
the newspaper, I just overjoyed. That's the only time I
can remember me personally reading about a person being bit
by a vampire.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
And I honestly feel.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
It's look at how many people each month, each week
that are killed in auto accidents, and we still ride cars.
I don't know of one single person that's ever been
killed by a vampire because the vampire drank too much
of their blood, or because a vampire drank any of

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their blood. Other than this information I read in the newspaper,
and I had every reason to believe that the newspaper
article was legit and that was being brought for now.
There could be other explanations for why people would have

(43:05):
puncture marks. There might be other things that were biting
them in the night that could leave marks that would
look like two thang marks. You know, there's other animals
that do bite. So it doesn't mean that it was
a vampire. And I don't know that anyone died or

(43:26):
was severely harmed during this newspaper reporting, but it went
on for it seemed like it was probably the summer
of nineteen seventy three if I remember correctly.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
And there were.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Also a rash of bigfoot type reports, you know, mainly
people didn't see the Bigfoot, but would just hear something
big running through the woods. That could been a bunch
of kids just making noise, you know. So I you know,

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I don't know, right, But it was nice that the newspaper,
the News American, which they no longer exist in Baltimore,
but they picked it up and talked about it. I
thought that was that was great.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
It made me happy.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Wow, I mean throwing you know, this is a due
revelation right, because, like I said, I never I haven't
talked about vampires in a while, just in general, and
then to bring them back into the fold and then
make them make sense to why they could potentially be extraterrestrial,
paranormal or cryptid. With that making a lot of sense,

(44:44):
and then thinking about how weird some of these cryptids
that we have been told about are, then it just
really fits right in it, you know, it actually fits
right in So for anyone out there, it's like, well,
how do those two things sec? I think? But I
think what would keep this outlined here? Definitely makes the

(45:05):
case that you could put them in that boat or
in that bucket and figure it out from there. You know,
it would be when you talk about just blood being
drink drinking or drunk or drunk drinking, drunk drunk, the
thing is drunk. When you have blood being drunk by

(45:25):
these vampires. I think about cattle mutilations where the blood
has been totally removed from from a cow, and then
other animal mutilations as well, where the same thing happens.
You know, then I start to think about, okay, if
we're talking about vampires, our vampires related in those incidents too,

(45:47):
Are we looking at the wrong thing, like do we
don't even know technically what's what's what is taking these
cows and draining their blood. So potentially could it be
vampires doing doing since it's one of their characteristics Anyways,
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
I think a vampire would be very discreet. If a
vampire was going to drink.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Some of.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
You know, cattle or a horse or any large mammal's blood,
I think they would just take, you know, a couple
of pints and let it be that. And I think
humans have what about eight pints of blood, and I
think some of these cattle were probably probably have at

(46:40):
least twenty pints of blood, so they could easily take
a pint.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Or two from each, you know, from a herd, each.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Cattle, maybe twenty or forty cattle in a herd, and
still I have a good meal without having to kill them. So,
but it is straight that all the blood would be
drained and none of it would be there. It almost
looks like, you know, possibly someone has taken the blood

(47:10):
for some reason, whether it be vampires eating it or
some other alien eating it, or maybe they utilize the
blood to do experiments on it. You know, maybe some
extraterrestrial came down here and said, all right, at our university,
back up, and you know, where we come from needs

(47:32):
some blood from Earth, so let's go ahead and drain
this one cow and or the you know, get all
their blood and then we'll have everything we need to
take back home with us.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
So, as I think about this thing, and I'm like, okay,
it's vampires considered being an extraterrestrial, I'm just trying to
think of like what will go against that, what would
say maybe not? And I just thought of one thing.
If they do come from a planet somewhere, and assuming
it's a vampire planet, what would they be preying on,

(48:04):
Like would they you know it would it would essentially
have to be a human inhabited or I guess I
don't know. Necessarily it would be right because if you
look in pop culture, they show vampires draining blood from
rats and things of that nature, right, other animals, not

(48:26):
just human. So I would assume then as long as
there was plasma on the menu, then they would be
able to you know, survive and coexist. So maybe if
they are on some other planet, there's something there that
has blood like us, essentially, because I'm just trying to
see how they will sustain themselves on a planet of

(48:49):
their own.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Well, there could be all types of different types of
animals that, you know.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
May actually have scales, they might have outer scales that
are brittle and break and fall off, and they might
just be full of whole blood cells.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
And vampires might not have to bite anything. They might
be able to go around and pick up where these
you know, animals on another planet are totally different species
and revolve totally differently than the way animals have revolved
here on Earth. So they might be able to get
a lot of whole blood without half in the drink

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or bite any animal.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Huh. I think it's worth looking into. I mean, there's
enough there I got to say. Initially, I was like,
I don't know how these things would intersect. I don't
see where these lines would be able to cross. But
that now that you've explained in giving a few examples
that make sense, I think it's at least something to

(50:01):
look at a little bit further, you know, like I said,
just looking into Dracula, seeing what the history of Dracula
is and then aligning it with historical UFO encounters or
historical alien encounters to see if they're similar in nature.
I would be interested to know, you know, where that lands,

(50:24):
so I may do some more looking into this to
try to see what this is. But moving to the
side of that, because I know this is a book
that you have written, the vampires. What is it darker
Night Night or dark? Real or fake? What is your book? Vampires?

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah? It's real?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah? No, what is the name of your book?

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Oh, vampires dead or alive?

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Dead or alive? Dead or alive? Okay, So vampires dead
or alive? You written? You wrote that, and then now
you move over you having another book that gets more
into paranormal somewhat familiar with Hayes' House. I've heard of
it before. What inspired you to kind of get into

(51:12):
that and write that book?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Well, the Hayes House was such a wonderful place to
do paranormal research. The two families that have lived there
from the time that Hayes House was built, the Bucks
and the Hayes family and Gibson family, they more or
less after death wanted to look after the house to

(51:40):
make sure that it was, you know, maintained and stayed
the way it was. And they loved that house that much.
So that was one of the things that maybe want
to write the book.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I had never done para on with research and a location.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
It seemed to have so many ghosts and spirits that
were acting as guardian angels to make sure that the
house survived into the future.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
I just thought that was so cool.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Okay, explain that. Explain that. And this is the Hayes House,
right the image on the screen. No, it said was
Hayes House.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
There are more than one Hayes House.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Where the house?

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Where is it located?

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Appalachicola, Florida.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
All right, that's a picture of it from the southwest side.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Now you bring up the Hayes.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
House Victorian style, Uh, three story house. Well, the third
story was just attic space, but now it has an
apartment on the third floor.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Okay, I'm going to see it if I can find that,
because we're actually getting ready to go to our break
at the top of the hour, and I'll make sure
that we show that on the other side of the break.
So the hay House and that's in Florida. Yeah, some
reason this came up with the hay House.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Uh, in some way, there are many Hayes. Hayes house.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Uh, this Hayes house is spelled ha ys.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Some Hayes houses are spelled h A y E s so,
and there there are more than one book concerning houses
that have been named Hayes.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Okay, I'll have to bring that up during the break. Okay, Well,
that's cool. So we're gonna get into talking about the
Hayes House then for hour two, getting in some good
paranormal stuff there. And I would love to hear, uh,
the the reason why this attracted you. You were attracted
to this particular location because we know they're haunted locations everywhere,

(54:04):
and have you actually been to other locations other than
Hay's House? Okay, good, so we'll talk about that. We'll
talk about that and a lot more right after the break. Guys,
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Speaker 2 (54:43):
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Speaker 1 (57:24):
Didn't have anything anybody, all right, everybody, welcome back. Spaced

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moving into after our number two with me your host,
mister Rob G. We're gonna be joining right back here
with our guests Keith Evans here in just a moment.
We have about thirty seconds before we come back from
radio break. Guys, let's just make sure that you put

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All right, anybody, welcome back spaced out Radio. After ours
radio show, after our number two with me your host,
mister Robg. We're jumping into a conversation here with Keith
Evans talking paranormal and vampires stepping into the unknown. We're
also gonna get into some paranormal stuff here, talking about
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As we get back into the conversation. So yes, I
wanted to Keith go ahead and get into hay House.
So the image I had I couldn't find Actley, the
one you're referring to. But you can show the book.

(01:01:05):
I'll go ahead, bring you up on screen so we
can see the cover and then we can talk about
this here. So you're on screen, Okay, so that you're
showing the book the hay House.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
Now, the Hayes House is no longer available in this
form paperback. It's only available e book on Kindle. So
I wanted to let everyone to know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
But this is one of the few ways I could
show people the book, but it's only available. The Hayes House.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Ghoes for people too, is available e book on Kindle,
all right, and no longer available paperback.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Okay, talk to people about the Hayes House.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
What is it? Well, it's a really nice house.

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
I was doing paranormal research for extended period of time
at a business very close to the Hayes House, and
it was one of those things where I should have
got written permission before I started doing paranormal research, but

(01:02:23):
I waited until the end and never got that written permission.
So I realized that the two families that had lived
at the Hayes house also were owners or part owners
of the business that I had completed at least a

(01:02:45):
couple of years of paranormal research at without getting permission
to write a book, because if there's an actual place
at standing, you need the owner's permission to write the book.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
So that was.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Heartbreaking for me because that place that I had did
two years worth of paranormal research at it had so
many different types of paranormal activity going on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
That I had not even matched that. With all the paranormal.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Experiences and research that I've done since I left that
one location that I could not get permission to do
paranormal research, I have not come across the different styles
and types of paranormal activity that I just found in

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that one location.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
So it was heartbreaking that I couldn't write that book.
But since I already knew and had.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
A familiarity with the ghost of spirit concerning the Buck
family and the Hayes and Hayes and the Gibson family,
I thought, well, why not try to get permission from
the owner where both of these families or all three
of these families had lived in the past. So it

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was very hard to catch the owner of the Hayes
House at the time because she lived out of town.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
So I had went there and knocked at least.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Three or four times, and I tried one more time
and she was there, and I told her who I was.
I was a paranormal researcher, and I'd liked to get
written permission to do paranormal research and to write a
book about the Hayes House. And she just smiled, and
I knew I was in because, believe it or not,
when I knock on people's doors and tell them who

(01:04:52):
I am and asked permission to write a book about
their house, some of them turned white as a ghost
and look like they're gonna pass out. Because Florida is
very conservative, and there's something about conservative people that just.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Don't allow paranormal.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
So you know, when a person gets that funny look
on their face, you know they're not gonna say yes.
They might not say no, but they never say this yes,
at least so far not. But the fact that she
just smiled, I knew I was in. And then she said, yes,
she can do paranormal research. And I drew up an agreement,

(01:05:39):
you know, which stated that she would allow me to
do paranormal research at her house and then write a
book about it, and that became my first book after
my other first book fell through. But always get permission
ahead of time because as a paranormal research sure, you

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put your time, your money, you're traveling into going paranormal research,
and then if you can't do the book, you know,
you know you're you're out. So always get permission up
front before you do any paranormal research.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Have you what was you said? You know, it sounded
like you had some wild experiences in relation to the
hay House. What were some of those things that you encountered?

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
At the Hayes House, I got a lot of thermal readings,
thermal readings in the shape of kind of like a
silhouette cold areas or at least colder than the Amian temperature.

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And the first time I did in paranormal research in
the Patent Kathleen room, I didn't even realize that was
their bedroom. So I saw almost like a two by

(01:07:15):
four looking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Dark blue line in the corner of the patent Kathleen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Room, and that was in the say, the northeast corner,
and then I'd had to take my eyes away from
the thermal immature and look at the wall and see
them there's nothing there. But look back at the thermal immature,
and you got that from the bottom floor corner up
to the top ceiling, you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Got that solid blue cold line. And I'm thinking what
could cause that? I was thinking, well, maybe it's there's
a pipe behind there, and maybe there.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Were other people in the house at the time, so
I thought, well, maybe so, but he's you know, running
a cold water and that's showing up through the thermal immature.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
But I found out from the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Owner that there are no pipes in that area, in
that corner of that wall, So I feel that was
Pat Hayes. And Pat Hayes was a very slender, but
tall man. He was about six foot three.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
But he had like a twenty nine inch waist.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
And I'm about five foot eight, five foot seven, and
most of the time I'm in anywhere from a thirty
six inch to a thirty eight inch waist. So he
was tall and slender, you know. And I think that
two by four object was actually Pat Hayes. I think

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that's how he was coming through on my thermal immature,
so he was he was allowing heat to be drawed
out of the environment, so he could actually show up
on the thermal image. And that was nice of him
because a lot of times they use the thermal immature

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and don't get anything.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
And then I wanted to check.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
The corner behind me, so I turned to the southwest
corner to see how that looked, to see if maybe
somehow that'll be blue, uh in the in the corner
from the from the floor up to the ceiling.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
It wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
But then I saw like adulating like silhouettes, you know,
like a head in the shoulders.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yes, just a dark blue or purple wish type colder color,
but it was just odulating, like going in and kind
of going out. And it was predominantly two.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Silhouettes, but then there was a third silhouette that would
come in. So I think that was Kathleen Hayes, and
I also think it was Sunshine Hayes, who also lived
at the Hayes house. Kathleen Hayes was Pat Hayes's wife,

(01:10:27):
and Pat Hayes's mother was Annie, and Annie did not
live at the Hayes house, but she had a room
there and she would come down and visit her son
and daughter in law just about every weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Excuse me.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
So I think the third silhouette that was aundulating in
and out and was less seen than the other two
was Annie because she didn't live there permanent Lee, And
of course Any's sister was Sunshine, And I think the
two prenominate either blue or dark purple silhouettes was Sunshine.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
And also.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Sunshine was Pat Hayes's aunt, and Kathleen was Pat Hayes's wife.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
So then I thought, well, this is great. I mean,
I have never received that much visible thermal imaging ever
before and haven't since. I've had some, but not to

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that amount. And at the same time, I.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Started thinking, maybe they're ganging up on me. You know
how everyone involved in paranormal has the ability to think
negatively about the experience. So I let that negativity drift
in and I thought, maybe they don't want me writing

(01:12:13):
the book. Maybe this was a show of force to say,
don't write a book about us. And do you know what,
I forgot all about the experience until I actually took
time to write the book. Wow, and I had When
I did the Hayes House, I took copious notes.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
I would do an.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
Hour long paranormal research. I'd have a tablet right in
front of me, and I would.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Take shorthand and write down different things that happen, you know,
because you're not gonna remember it at all when when
it's you know, when the hour's done with, So write
down short things while it's happening, and then go back
and fill into blanks when you when you're fish with
your hour long paranormal short session. That's what I call

(01:13:04):
it now, I don't know what I called it back then.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
I had forgotten all about that situation until I got
to that chapter and started working on the Patent Kathleen Room.
Which the Patent Kathleen Room is either chapter five or
chapter six, it's not right at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
So and then I thought, I think that's something I
forgot all about that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
And I think the ghost of Spirits helped me to
forget because they wanted me to write the book, and
they didn't want me to continue thinking negatively and give
up on pursuing writing the book, because the last thing
I wanted to do is write a book about a
house where the ghost of Spirits don't want me to
write a book. I kind of like when I'm working

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with ghost of Spirits, I want their spirit actually permission
to do what I'm doing. I don't want to be
writing a book about someone who'd rather or not had
me there. I think the paranormal works a lot better
when you're working with a ghost of spirit that's willing to,
you know, be seen, or at least make themselves known,

(01:14:20):
because then you get more paranormal experiences. So I just
thought that that was really that's the only time that
I can remember that that ever happened where I had
what I thought was a bad experience then forgot about it,
just forgot about it like that. And it was such
an overwhelmingly positive image to look at all that was

(01:14:47):
lost during Hurricane Michael in October tenth of twenty eighteen,
all my thermal images, all my photos, all my videos
of the Hayes House research that I did for the book,

(01:15:09):
all that was lost during the hurricane. I was never
able to get it back. The laptop that I had
just pretty much floated out of the place where I
was living.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
I wish I would have just went ahead and evacuated,
but anyway, I didn't. And the loss is the loss.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
So what was what is the root of the haunting? Like,
what is the story behind the like who died? Was
someone murdered or like, what was the story behind the haunting.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Oh, there's nothing like that. I mean, it makes for TV,
but most places have paralle activity.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
And there's never been any murders. Yeah, there's never been
any robberies. There's not been any felonies.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
I think my house, I think my house falls in
that category. We have some ghost shadow people that we
filmed in the house that I live in currently. We
had phantom knocking, we had crazy orbs that triggered the
ring camera. We had almost like a black eyed kids

(01:16:28):
experience with this lady that just walked up to our
front door asking to come in and take a shower.
And so the moment I had all that, I looked
up if anyone died here, well I'm not here now
but at my home looking for anything that may have
happened there, and couldn't find anything. So that just goes
do to your point that it doesn't have to be

(01:16:49):
some big traumatic event that happened there. You would find
these energies potentially anywhere in the world. Really if you
think about it, and.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
I think that the ghost spirits are more app just
like people. If you're walking down the street and you
don't see anyone, you know, you're not going to talk
to them. But if you see a paranormal investigator, then
you're probably going to go out of your way to say, hey, Hi,
you know I have a show, would you be on

(01:17:20):
my show as a guest?

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
And that's the same way ghosts of spirits are.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
If they see something in you that they value and
they want to communicate with you, then they will. So
a lot of times it's just got to be those
personalities or how should I say it, the chemistry. If
the chemistry is there, then they're going to communicate with you.
If the chemistry is not there, they're probably.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
There and just annoying you. So it's hard to tell
how many ghost of spirits might have been there. It
just annoyed me, but at least the ones that count
talk to me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
So one of the things I always ask normal investigators
is do you go out with a team, like do
you have a because I know you were talking about
coming across those energies and you felt that they were
those particular family members. So once you have a moment
like that, do you have someone that steps in, like
a medium that tries to make communication or where do

(01:18:23):
you go at that point once you figure that you
might know what the entity is or what the energy is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
No, I always work alone. I always have, and you
know I started, you know, working alone because you know,
in Maryland where I lived, anyone who spoke about the
paranormal was considered to have some type of psychiatric condition.

(01:18:52):
So I just kind of kept it to myself and
did my own thing and didn't share it with anybody.
Every once in a while, i'd share it with friends and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
They'd me not to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
So I've never done paranormal research with anyone. I think
a couple of times I've had a cat that was
on the property that might hang out with me, but
that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
No people, I've always done paranormal research alone.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I enjoyed doing it alone.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
And I really think that ghost of spirits are more
apt to open up if it's one person then if
it's a whole group of people with lighting and producers
and TV cameras. I think if you're just by yourself,
even if you're filming it, and I always telling them

(01:19:48):
that I'm filming it for either a book or YouTube
or Instagram or Facebook, I'm honest with the ghost of spirits,
but I think they're more app open up to a
single person than if you bring a crowd in. And
ghost of spirits are just people who are no longer

(01:20:09):
have a biological body, and most people don't feel comfortable
talking to a wide audience. Some do, but most don't,
So why would a ghost of spirit be any different
than the way they were when they were alive. They
probably don't feel comfortable if it's a large group or
even four or five people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
I think ghost of spirits are more apt to.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
Open up and talk to one person, And that's why
I think my paranormal experiences have more data, because I'm
just by myself and it makes the ghost of spirits
feel comfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
When you say data, what type of data have you
brought in in your investigations.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Well, we just talked about the thermal I use.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
I use the OBLUS five B, and that's where the
ghost of spirits can use their energy theoretically to choose
words from the data bank.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
With which which is within the OBLIS five B. But
I have received.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Numbers and digits which I've been told the data bank
doesn't have a digit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Or any numbers, so anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
I also uh the obelisk five has like a true
or false or yes or no, which is a it's
color coded. If it goes to red, then that's either
false or no. If it goes to green, that's either
yes or yes or true. And they there's also a phonics,

(01:21:56):
which is where a ghost of spirit can make sound.
They can just make their own syllables up and form
words from syllables. And with phonics, sometimes you get an
answer that's right on the money, and other times you

(01:22:16):
just get sounds that it might be a foreign language,
but it's not English. So but that's the three main
things that I utilize with the Oblus five B. In
the past, I've also used cameras to try to catch

(01:22:37):
something moving.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
I use melmeter, which measures cold, you know, temperature changes.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Sometimes with ghost of spirits, you either get a high
temperature or you get a low temperature. And sometimes ghost
of spirits can just mess with the temperature range on
your Oblis five without the room feeling really cold or
really hot. And also the mel meter has electromagnetic energy,

(01:23:11):
and that used to be a big one that everyone
wanted to see. And usually if there was electromagnetic energy,
then you'd have more paranormal activity that would be a
sign of a ghost or spirit. And I haven't used
the mal meter that much because it seemed like most
people were getting bored with it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
And that's about it. I have things like I'm trying
to think dowsing rods. I have dowsing rods, but I
almost would need a fixed camera because now I hold

(01:23:56):
my camera in one hand and do everything else with
the other hand.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
If I use the dowsing rods, I need to have
a stand and which I do have, but I just
haven't used in a while. And then put the camera
down and just stand in front of the camera and
ask questions and use the dousing rods.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
And we're gonna go ahead and stop right there. We're
gonna talk dousing rods and some more experiences with the
paranormal right here with our guests tonight, Keith Evans, paranormal
and vampire stepping into the unknown. We'll be talking more
when we get back right after the break. See it
a minute, All right, we are clear, We are clear. Okay,

(01:24:50):
all right, awesome, So we'll be going into our last
segment here. This is where we have our uh some
audience questions I know a couple came through guys that
I was able to tag. If I missed it, obviously,
please repost in caps and we will definitely make sure

(01:25:10):
that we asked those at the end of the show,
the end of the hour, at the very least. Let's
see you have any extraterrestrial encounter. You ever see a

(01:25:37):
UFO anything like that?

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Keith, Well, I'd have to say possibly. I had a
situation where there was missing time. I used to be
a volunteer firefighter, and I think it was before I

(01:26:02):
joined the Army, and I was out running with another firefighter.
It was late at night, probably around ten am, and
he was getting ready to go into law enforcement and
go to like an academy for that so and I
was trying to get in shape to go into the Army.

(01:26:26):
And when we were running, I just remember seeing a
bright light towards the north, and not real bright, but
brighter than normal since there was no lights in that
area there are no homes or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
And heard less like a boom, kind of like a
dull thunderclap, and you know, we both said, what's that?
And we looked and.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
The person I was with was running with boots on
and they were hurting his feet. So there was about
an hour missing when we got back, and on our
way back, I don't remember anything about the run from
that point on, other than we were facing the opposite way,

(01:27:22):
running back towards the fur department, and I think I
was in front, and then on the way back, the
other person was in front of me and they had
their boots off. So anyway, with their boots off, we

(01:27:48):
were running on the side of the road which was
like gravel, and it was hurting his feet. And I said,
when did you have time to take your boots off?
And he said, why did you keep asking them questions?
You were aggravating them by asking them so many questions.
And I said, asking who questions? And then he just

(01:28:11):
kind of said, like, well, I don't know what did
I just say. So anyway, we didn't talk about it
anymore after that, but it was like missing time. And
I had read later on that that area of Maryland
there had been people it was during the summer, there

(01:28:35):
have been people who had reported alien abductions in that area.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Now I can't say that it was an alien induction,
abduction or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
But that was the only missing time that I could
remember when we got back to the far department, it
took us, you know, at least an hour longer to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Do a run that we would have usually been done
our earlier. So the only thing I.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
Can think of if we were abducted, I was probably fascinated.
And when I like something, I'll ask a million in
one questions, which usually those people don't like. And that's
the first thing he was saying, why did you ask
them so many questions? And he said something about that's
why they dumped us out because you were asking too

(01:29:28):
many questions. So if he was remembering the alien abduction.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Then maybe that was the reason why he was saying,
why did you ask them so many questions? And if
you know, if I was aducted by aliens, you know
I'd have lots of questions.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Yeah, yeah, I would too. And you know, like I said,
I'm one of those ones that feel like that we
aren't supposed to remember being abducted. So I'm glad to
hear that. And I'm gonna ask you again, what if
we come back from radio, so you'll have to go
back through that saving story again, so that the radio

(01:30:07):
audience here is is I'll do it later though, on
the back half. First we'll jump into some questions and
then I'll go back and ask you again about that
so we can get it on radio. And yeah, so
we get about twenty five minutes left in the ship
well in the interview, and then we'll continue on after

(01:30:29):
you leave for about another hour. Okay, here we go.
All right, everybody, welcome back spaced Out Radio, The After
Hours Radio Show. Back after hour number two on the
back half of the second hour, which means it's time
for questions. Fewer questions are coming up next, plus a

(01:30:49):
lot more. Make sure you guys don't go anywhere. We're
we're gonna finish up the conversation with our guest Keith
Evans tal comparing normal in the Vampires, getting into some
really wood stuff here tonight on Spacetout Radio, The After
Hours Radio Show. As we get right back into the
conversation here. So yeah, so getting into the let's see,

(01:31:14):
where were we at? Do you recall what you were
speaking about because I cut you off as we went
into the break If you don't the missing time, Yeah, actually,
well let's start there. Yeah, you were saying something else
as we went into break, But go ahead and start
there with the missing time piece. Yeah, that's okay, start

(01:31:35):
with the missing time and then I'll sprinkle some audience
questions in there as well. So the missing time just
to preface, Just to preface this, during the break here
on YouTube, I'd asked Keith if he had actually had
any sort of extraterrestrial encounter, anything in relation to aliens extraterrestrials.

(01:31:57):
He stated that he had something that might be view
as missing time and if you wouldn't mind go ahead
and go into that story for us, Keith, Well, me
and a friend.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
Were out running.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
I was a volunteer firefighter during the time, and I
was thinking about going into the army, and my friend
was thinking about going into the police academy. And we
were out running. It must have been about ten o'clock
at night, and we had run before, not that often.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
But.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
You know, we knew how long it would take us
to get back, and when we got back, it took
us an hour longer than what we thought it would
have actually taken. So during the run, I was running
in front, and my friend was running with boots on

(01:32:57):
because he thought it would be good to train and
run with boots on, but they were hurting his feet.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
So anyway, I heard a boom and both mother said,
what's that?

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
And it was like not a really bright light, but
it was the area that was mainly woods and no houses,
and there was like a light in that area.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
And the next thing I.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
Remember were on our way back and I don't remember
having finished a run and turned around and my friend
who was in front of me, his boots were off
and he was holding in his hand and you could
tell it was painful for him to be running on
the side of the road had graveled. And I asked him,

(01:33:48):
I said, when did you take your boots off? And
he said to me, why didn't you keep asking them
so many questions? You know, that aggravating them and that's
the reason why they threw us out. And I said
throw us out of what to that extent? And he
looked at me and said what what did I just say?

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
And anyway, we got back and that's when I noticed
that it took us like an hour longer than what
it should have to have completed their our run.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
And we never talked about it again. But I always
thought if an alien did abduct me, I would just
be interesting. And one asked a whole lot of questions,
and most people say I asked too many questions.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
That's one of my trademarks.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
So that sounds like what I would have done had
the aliens abducted me. I'd have just been all interested
and one to know everything about them. So that was
my only and I won't I would even to say
it was alium abduction because I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Maybe my brain just tuned things out. I don't know,
or maybe my memory just went blank for that period
of time. There's other explanations. I'm not saying it's an
alien abduction. I'm just saying it's definitely a missing time
that I couldn't account for. And I don't think I've
ever had any other time since that or before that

(01:35:30):
where I had that type of missing time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Man, that's interesting, definitely interesting. The missing time is definitely
a key in a lot of abduction tales, a lot
of reduction stories. Now myself, I feel like, as I
was saying during the break, I just feel like, for
some reason, when they conduct these abductions, that they were
not supposed to know that it happens. It's supposed to

(01:35:57):
be I feel like and people on the shellel of
her say this before, but I feel like it's more
of like the same way we go out on the
Sahara and we, you know, target a zebra or something else. Right,
it just sees this helicopter come out of nowhere, chase
it down, shoot it with something. It goes completely unconscious,

(01:36:19):
doesn't remember what happened during that time, and then all
it knows is that it wakes up at some point
in the middle of a field. Were long gone by
that point, right. I just feel like that's the way
that the abductions are supposed to go too, And then
if they are, then that would mean that probably a
lot of us have maybe haven't had an experience that

(01:36:42):
just don't recall, you know. So yeah, that's where you
get into regression because I want to know too. So
I don't know if you've even thought about regression or
what that is. Do you even know what regression is?
And have you considered it?

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Yeah, I've heard about us.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
When you're supposed to call things that you have forgotten, yes,
especially a traumatic situation. But they say it the person
that does the regression manipulate you. They could actually give
you false memories so you'll remember things that didn't happen,
So I don't know if I trust anyone that much

(01:37:21):
to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
You know, that's one of the reasons false memories. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's what I heard too, that there could be
they could if they're they're not strategic with the way
that they ask their questions, they can implant false memories
into your mind and then and then you don't know
up from down at that point, right because you're like,

(01:37:43):
what was real? What isn't? And then, yeah, who wants
to do that? So that's the reason why I haven't
done it yet. But I hear if you get with
someone that's really good that really does this, that they
could tap into, uh, you know, like Mary Rodwell for instance,
someone that I think about and dev Shock would be
a couple of people that a lot that are really

(01:38:04):
good at doing this. So if you ever think about it,
there are a couple of names I could definitely throw
to you that would be worth looking at. But that
that ends up being you know, sometimes the missing piece
of the puzzle is what don't we remember, Like what
happened that we don't actually remember. If we could uncover that,

(01:38:24):
how much further would we be in understanding what it
is that we're doing or what we're dealing with. So
it's a double ed sword, like there's benefits there, but
there is there's definitely a real risk there as well.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Well it's a possibility that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
Maybe during this hour long period of time, the aliens
were telling me all about vampires and that's maybe how
I got my ideals for the you know book, just
a wild fault there, you know, Well, maybe they're helping
you out.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
And it's up to you to do the rest on
your own.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
That that's kind of what we.

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
Might think they might You might think that everything is
your ideal, but it might have been something that the
aliens wanted you to remember, except not remember that they
told you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
No, you're exactly right that that is definitely something I
think about all the time because I'm a creative, I'm
an artist, I'm a musician, and it's always amazed me
the ability to take something that you envision in your
mind and to have that materialize into a physical form
through your fingers. And where did it come from? Where
did the idea come from? You think it's yours, but

(01:39:47):
you likely downloaded it from somewhere, like it the source
of that idea is comes from somewhere else. So I'm
with you on that that could definitely explain the idea,
because that's what I was asking earlier, is trying to
find when you know, was there like a moment in
your life where your perspective changed on vampires being just

(01:40:11):
what we know them to be to them being extra
trustor like, was there a moment And if there wasn't
a moment that you could pick to, then yeah, it
could be definitely something that you would find out more
about in regression. And you know what I mean, like
an incident where they told you something that you didn't
recall they told you until you regressed. So that's why

(01:40:33):
I say it's a double ass sword. It's a scary
thing just because you hear all those bad things about regression,
but then you hear so many good things about it
too and how it helps people. Some people though, say
it traumatizes them because for first of all, you find
out things you didn't know, and you didn't know that
you didn't want to know, you know what I mean,

(01:40:54):
Like they took you aboard the ship key and they
did all these things to you. This is gonna come
out in your regression like would you want to remember that?
You know what I mean? Like, would you want to
go forward in life knowing that you were taken? And
then this is what they did when they took you.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
Well, whatever they did, it only lasted hour.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Right, So if we talk about time being relevant, that
hour could be like a year in their time or
you know, it's just it's just strange, man. And as
we talked through this, it's it's you know, I didn't
anticipate coming into the conversation tonight seeing vampires in a
different light, but I kind of do. I did. I

(01:41:39):
didn't see where the lines connected at initially, but your
explanations were excellent, and uh, you know not You're You're
not overarching and saying that aliens that vampires are aliens.
You're just saying, hey, look at this thing, look at
this thing. It would make sense that they would be

(01:41:59):
really to the phenomena in some way. And the phenomena
is a general umbrella because everything falls underneath it. All
the weird stuff, whether it's Dracula, vampires, extrarestrials, cryptids, the
puck wedgies, all the things that you could think about
fall under that phenomena. U brother, So a very good.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
Chance, so that they are extraterrestrial, cryptid, and also paranormal.
I think they fall under all three categories vampires.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
Yeah, that'd be definitely something good to look further into.
I mean, now that you open my eyes up to it,
I'm gonna continue, you know, having that on my mind
when I go into conversations and just trying to see
what lines up. Because so, you did, you did, You exceeded,
you over exceeded my expectations here tonight. So that's actually awesome.

(01:42:57):
Let me grab a couple of questions here a little
camp fire. One is asking you, have you ever been
to Transylvania. In Romania, tons of vampires are yeah, and
apparently those are the origins. Apparently, Like I said, I'm
not too big, I don't I don't really know. But
Roger Murray's asking you why women think vampires are sexy?

(01:43:21):
Why do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
I guess because vampire is always portrayed as being self.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Confident, and usually they're.

Speaker 4 (01:43:36):
Quite modest for their abilities. They don't like bully people
or take advantage of anyone. Really, they just kind of
leave people alone and they have a lot of self confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
That's the only thing I could think of.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
I mean, if they keep casting guys like Tom Cruise
and Brad Pitt is the lead roles, and everybody's gonna
think that vampires are just handsome guys and you know
what I mean, they need to cast someone else. Yeah, yeah,
it's pop culture. I think that really does that. But
at the same time, I you know, there is a

(01:44:18):
sort of sexiness to a who is that. Isn't Elvira
a vampire? Isn't she supposed to be? So now I
get understand that. So we're talking to Elvira, I could
definitely understand. Let me see, Jennifer came in earlier. She's saying,
you can't have self reflection without a soul. That's one

(01:44:40):
thing that I want. I saved because I wanted to
bring up to you, because I don't think we even
talked about that. One of the reasons why vampires may
not have reflections is because they don't have a soul.
Is that what you come to understand as well?

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
No, I disagree with that. I think vampires have a
soul just like we have a soul, and soul is
just your electromagnetic energy and when you do pass away.
If a vampire was destroyed say, like in an explosion,
then I think their soul would be recycled, reincarnated, just
like our soul would be.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Okay, all right? And then Roger Murray, I think this
is just a comment here, Keith Evans, My father served
US Air Force Vietnam eighty first fire Wing, brent Waters, England.
He was a mechanics. Thank you for your service, sir,
thank you. Thanks all right. So with that being said,

(01:45:44):
that has actually been all of the question. So let's
do this. Let's take a couple of minutes and get
you to talk about your books and where people can
find them. So let's talk about what they're about and
where people can find them.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
Uh, Vampires that Are Alive is available paperback on Amazon,
e book on Kindle, and The Hayes House Ghost for
People Too is the only available e book on Kindle.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
Uh did you want me to yeah, show the books,
give a description, bring the balls up.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
Yes, if you have them there for our viewing audience. Here,
let me bring that up there.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Vampires that Are Alive?

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
And then this is uh, The Hayes House Ghast People Too.
Now the paperback is no longer available, but it shows
you what to look for.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
It when you look for the h E book on.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Kindle, Okay, because the main title is Hayes House, but
ghost People Too is the subtitle.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
A lot of times it won't come up unless you
have that subtitle.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
That might have been one of the problems I was
having when I looked it up. Okay, okay, So are
you working on anything new? Do you have something a
new book that you'll be looking at, or where are
you going next?

Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
Well, I'm always thinking and I'm always writing, but I
can't say there's anything concrete yet. If anything, I might
have six or seven projects going on that are writings
and not just you know, paranormal research. So a lot
of times it's can I get enough interesting information? I

(01:47:47):
think anyone could write about their paranormal experiences, but so
many people would rather just go out and do their
own paranormal experiences and not sit at home and read
about what I did or what I expec experienced. So
it makes me less likely to want to write a
book about my paranormal experiences because I don't think at

(01:48:11):
least people in America are really into reading about other
people's paranormal experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
They just want to go out and do it. Themselves. Now,
when it comes to like.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Vampires or something like that, where I feel I have
new information that no one has really try to talk
about or explain, then I want to write about that
because the people that do read my book are always astonished.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
They're like, wow, I would have never thought of that.
I would never have went in that direction at all.

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
And I really think that vampires are sophisticated, ancient species,
and I really think we could learn a lot more
from them than they can learn from us.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
And I think sometimes the only thing you had to
fear is fear itself.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
So yeah, yeah, because the vampires are different than us,
don't mean we have to fear them.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Yeah, And I mean, just going back, it's just another
thing on the list. Like once again we talk about cryptids.
How many different cryptids are there? There's a lot, fifty more,
there's probably more than that, And it's just we're just
finding out every single day how weird the world is
that we live in and how it isn't what we thought.

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And you know it, I'm open to all sorts of things.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
You know now that we always talk about this, I
know people probably get tired of me saying this, but
we You know, when we talk about what's possible or
not possible, you gotta look at just what we know, right.
I always point to sixty foot lizards walking on this
planet dirt. We're walking on sixty foot lizards shared the

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same planet, and that's just wild to think of it.
It happened, and it did. And also the fact that
we're sitting on a rock floating through space. That's crazy.
We're on a rock, We're on a ball kind of
floating through space. What what does that even mean? We're
rotating around a ball of fire, Like, why what's going

(01:50:26):
on there? And then space is also infinite. It's infinity.
It never ends. Something that never ends that and it's
what they're saying it is. And so all those things
that are so strange and weird that we know are factual.
Then you got to look at everything else as man,

(01:50:47):
it could be possible, right, why not?

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
There's an endless amount of possibilities.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
It's an endless amount. Like I said, the multi verse,
we even got into that, that's a whole nother rabbit hole.
Just take what we know for sure, and that's enough
for anyone to You shouldn't have a moment where you
could say that's not possible. What are you weighing that
up against? Like what is your what do you mean that? Like?

(01:51:14):
How do you know what the limits are? Right? And
I don't think there's anybody on this planet that knows that.
So that's why it's always good to have these conversations
while we would continue to do so. And also on
your social media, do you run a YouTube channel?

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
Yes. Paranormal Short Sessions by Keith Evans is my YouTube
channel and it's free to subscribe, and I have all
my paranormal short sessions on there. Most of them are
anywhere from fifteen minutes to thirty minutes. I find if
you have anything longer, people just kind of lose interest

(01:51:54):
in it, so I try to keep it short and sweet,
and I also put promos and extras on Facebook, Instagram,
and also on YouTube. I think people enjoy watching.

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
Very short segments, and sometimes the short segments are the best.
I look at them and I say, wow, sometimes you'll
catch something that you didn't even realize.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
I mean, I've caught all types of sounds and I
thought I was there and I don't remember hearing that. Yeah,
so check it out. I think you'll enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Yeah, I definitely did. I went over to the channel
and just to kind of reiterate, what is the name
of the actual channel.

Speaker 4 (01:52:40):
It's called Paranormal Short Sessions by Keith Evans, and I
chose short Session because the Three Stooges always did shorts,
so I thought, well, it's about most of my paranormal
shorts or paranormal researches about as long as Three Stooges cartoon.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
I'm out dating myself. Maybe there's a lot of people
that don't know the Three Stooges from the you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
I think you've taken something from the thirties, forties, and
fifties and then made it work intoday's world, which is
crazy to think about. That's a full circle moment because yeah,
it's all about short content in media nowadays. And you're right,
there is a sweet spot for attention, you know, for

(01:53:35):
keeping the attention of your viewers. So yeah, and it's
not these long radio shows that we do here, but
we do this for radio, and it translates really well
in the radio. Like if you hear this show on radio,
you're like, wow, okay, but it doesn't make sense in
the video world. And so that's why We're always trying
to get people to understand this is a radio show

(01:53:57):
that you are seeing recorded on video, but this is
mainly for the radio. So awesome stuff here tonight, Keith Evans,
I definitely appreciate you coming through. We have each other's information.
Stay in touch and we will be talking soon.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
All right, I'll stay in touch. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
All right, Keith, have a great night.

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All right, welcome back to space Out Radio, that afand
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back in twenty seconds. We'll jump into subsu doctor tells
her told mis person mysteries. Uh maybe fit in some
UFO and weird news and we may be shutting this
one down. Maybe think about thirty minutes early, so about
thirty minutes after the hour. I'll see what's going on.

(02:00:12):
I'll let you know. Here we go. All right, everybody,
welcome back spaced Out Radio, the after hours radio show.
After our number three, we want to go ahead and
thank our guests here tonight, Keith Evans for stepping into
the unknown talking paranormal vampires here tonight, getting a little
on the mooie side. Right Well, that's what we did.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
We did it and we'll do it.

Speaker 6 (02:00:34):
Again right here.

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Make sure if you missed any of the conversations you
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and jump into some Steve Stocking Tales and Told Missing
person mysteries. Here we go.

Speaker 11 (02:00:50):
Welcome to Tales I'm Told and Missing Person's Mysteries on
spaced Out Radios After Hours. My name is Steve Stockton,
and I'm here to take you on a journey of mysteries,
legends and true stories. Come join me on this strange
adventure of tales I'm Told and missing person mysteries. Welcome

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to the Missing and the Faye Part four, believe it
or not, there is one place in the United States
that has had so many Fay encounters that, to those
of us who are interested in and researching these topics,
could possibly give this place the name the ferry capital
of the United States. What mysterious and unknown woodland or

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forest am I speaking of here?

Speaker 3 (02:01:35):
Well?

Speaker 11 (02:01:36):
Neither would you believe? Detroit, Michigan. Now this is not
just a couple of sightings by new agent intellectuals trying
to push the fairies are real and can live in
urban areas too agenda. For centuries there have been reports
of gnomes and other species of little people in the
Detroit area. Some of them date back even before the

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Europeans settled here, basically before it was even named Detroit,
possibly before the state of Michigan even existed. Is it
something about the land there? Did the settlers intrude on
some magical place where the veil between our world and
theirs is so much more thin? Let's look at some
of these Fay encounters and see if we can figure

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it out. The origins of our first story lie within
the Ottawa tribe. These are the natives who were living
on the land before the English and French settlers came
in and took it over. This particular encounter tells of
the red dwarf, as the natives call them. These little
people are just as mischievous as their brother and sister species,

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and can be just as mean and evil. However, and
it's interesting, as it always is when dealing with a faith,
that this particular type of fay are the protectors of
the land and the caretakers of the earth, extremely powerful
nature spirits who are most likely provoked by a colonization
of any sort that doesn't reckon to fay and respect

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the land itself. When the French settlers came into that area,
they brought with them their own legends of the fay.
Theirs were called lutin, which actually have their origins in
Nordic folklore. However, the French seemed to believe very much
in these devious little tricksters who went about playing pranks
on the settlers and anyone they could get a good

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shot at. They dislike humans and even displayed at times
some behaviors which we would consider it to be similar
to the effects of having a poultergeist or noisy spirit
in our home. So suffice to say these Fay used
their magic and enjoyed doing so. They are very mean
spirited and sometimes even downright evil, So as the French

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callized the land there where Detroit is now and mixed
with the natives, these two legends ended up combining. The
Europeans came in and with their old legends of the Fay,
which were that these creatures were more than merely mysterious
forest entities who played mean spirited pranks, but rather malevolent
harbingers of doom, chaos, and destruction. The founder of Detroit,

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Antoine de la mothe Cadillac, on March tenth, seventeen oh one,
decided to throw a party. During the party, as he
was greeting his guests, he noticed some people he didn't
invite and who definitely weren't dressed for the occasion. One
was a woman who looked more like a fortune teller
and had a cat on her shoulder. She immediately took

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his palm and told him that while he was destined
to start a great city, it would be a place
of much violence and bloodshed for ages to come. The
old Hag also gave a warning to deer Antwine a
homage too and heed the red dwarfs and do not,
for any reason upset them. She went on to explain
that to do so would be his downfall. Now Antoine,

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being a modern man for his age, didn't believe in
such things as fortune tellers, palm readings, and fake creatures,
and laughed at the world and kicked her out of
his party. He had removed quite violently, in fact, and
went on about his days without giving even a second
thought to her warning about not upsetting the Fay, who
were already inhabiting the area he was trying to colonize
and turn into the greatest settlement the New World had

(02:05:14):
seen so far. One night, Antoine decided to take one
of his mistresses for a walk around his new city.
As the couple were walking, they overheard some of the
settlers talking amongst themselves and soft to eavesdrop. The group
were talking about how they had seen Le Petit de rouge,
or the little red dwarfs, and that they felt the

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city was now doomed to fail and falter once again.
Antoine scoffed and was even amused by the stories which
were growing by the day, of the people settling the
colony catching sight of these little people or fay folk,
as we have come to collectively call and know them.
Not long after this event, however, Antoine Cadillac himself had

(02:05:57):
his own encounter with what he described as a deformed
dwarf like creature covered in blackish red fur and possessing
beady eyes. The creature's face was fierce and its eyes
piercing and blood red. It had crooked and disgusting teeth.
When it looked at him and sneered, he took a
club that was standing nearby and bashed the creature about

(02:06:18):
the head, but it just laughed and ran off. He
allegedly had this particular encounter in his own grand home.
After this, so the legend has it, Antoine de Lamouth
Cadillac lost everything. He died alone and penniless, a ruined man.
The city named after him left with a kind of

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strange curse, just as the old hag fortune teller had predicted.
Would Detroit be the same today if he had simply
heeded her warning and given respect to the red dwarfs.
Now why, we'll never know, but it is said that
they still roam around the city to this very day,
and sightings haven't become more scarce since the seventeen hundreds,
when i'm tot had first envisioned the settlement. These self

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same creatures, or perhaps one of the same species anyway,
who look exactly the same, was seen that same year
repeatedly by a farmer in the area. The farmer led
to that the thing would peer in his windows at
night terrify his family. It would also stalk him as
he plied his fields and tended to his animals. Likewise,

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his family and young children especially weren't immune to the
creature's torment. Another farmer around the same time said this
same beast looking thing would stop on the roof of
his barn at all hours of the day, especially at night,
just to rile up the horses and cause the tired
family great strife. It would steal his chickens as well.

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On July twenty third, seventeen sixty three, two hundred British
troops had amassed on the outskirts of the city to
surprise a group of native rebels who had defied the
post war policies the Betters should put into place with
the settlers and Native Americans in the area alike. This
apparently made them the enemy, and the troops were prepared
to surprise attack them during the night while they were

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unguarded and asleep. This was during the insurgent uprising, which
is known to this day as Pontiacs Wore. This was
of course named for the fierce leader of the Ottawa tribe,
Chief Pontiac. The war that this led to was extremely violent,
with the armies on each side killing and attacking instant
civilians on the streets and in the villages, pillaging homes

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and slaughtering women, infants, and children who had nothing to
do with anything and no rights to do with anything
even if they wanted to. It was total chaos and bloodshed,
and the Red Dwarfs didn't go without noticing all that
blood being spilled on their sacred land. They were seen
by hundreds of people during this time, soldiers and Native
Americans alike. They were spotted sitting on the banks of

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a nearby creek where the bloodiest battle took place. This creek,
which ran so red with blood it is still to
this day known as Bloody Run, and the little Red
Dwarfs were dancing and celebrating. They were literally laughing and
shouting with glee, not rooting for one side or the other.
Mind you, just reveling in the death and carnage of

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the war before them. Their demeanor was described as elated
and joyous. They were even witnesses dancing amongst the corpses
of the dead and swimming in the bloody creek. These
little evil creatures were celebrating the bloodshed flashed forward now
During the Great Detroit Fire of eighteen oh five, which
burned most of the city to the ground, the red

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dwarfs were sighted by hundreds of witnesses at that time too.
In the days leading up to the fire, they were
seen by many witnesses throughout the city. Most of them
didn't even know what they were seeing. By the time
the eighteen hundreds rolled around, most people had forgotten about
the city's founder in the warning of the Old Hag
fortune teller. While the disastrous fire was still blazing and

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people were dying left and right, all around, witnesses reported
seeing evil little red men dancing around in the flames
and on top of the chart corpses. They were seen
in the aftermath of the War of eighteen twelve and
all the way up into modern times, including the race
riots in the nineteen sixties and the extreme desolation and
abandoned buildings that occupied Detroit to this day. Now, let's

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move out of the motor city and into some more
desolate areas of the world and see what other encounters
and species we can uncover and perhaps learn a bit
about in case the needs should ever rise that we
need to be knowledgeable about the fae and perhaps what
to do should we come upon one or several. We
should already know that there are thousands of species and
hundreds of realms. When a person is kidnapped by a fairy,

(02:10:40):
their fate depends on so many things. We always talk
to these videos about the missing in the woods and
the face responsibility for such abductions and even the death
of the missing in question, But what about the people
who have come back that survived. What are their stories like,
What do they remember, if anything, about where they were?

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And maybe even why? What happens when the missing end
up deceased and people suspect a faye to be the culprit,
how do you explain that to the police. In nineteen
oh nine, a woman in Ireland named Annie McIntyre was
abducted by fairies allegedly and had quite a story to tell.

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She was said to have been born on Halloween in
eighteen thirty nine, which makes her more prone, some say,
to being able to see and possibly interact with many
supernatural realms, including those of the faithfolk. She is said
to have had a lifelong obsession with but an immense
respect for the fae. She claims this is because on

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the night of her birth she was abducted by the fay,
and had it not been for her brother happening upon
the celebrations, she would have most certainly become one of them.
No changeling was left behind, and though no one is
sure why she was left alone on the night of
her birth to be stolen, here's what she claimed until
the day she died. On that night of Halloween in

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eighteen thirty nine, fairies crept into her home mere minutes
after she was born and stole away with her wrapped
in her bedclothes and a small sheet her mother had
made for. As the fairies were bringing her to the
nearest circle or portal to one of their realms, they
were celebrating, dancing and singing under the moonlight. They were
cheering that they had gotten away without being seen, and

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the couple who were the ones who would be raising
the child were being hoisted on the other little people's backs.
It was a grand celebration while they moved towards the portal. However,
Annie's brother was coming back from a friend's house walking
through the woods and heard the commotion, the flutes and
music being played and celebrations happening in the woods right

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behind his house. He went to investigate and claims he
saw dozens of little people carrying off his infant sister,
who he knew had just been born that very day. Allegedly,
he took his bible, which he just happened to be carrying,
and tossed it right into the group of fairies. They
immediately set the infant down and scattered, most of them

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simply disappearing into thin air. He skipped his baby sister
up into his arms and brought her back to the
family home, and he's mother and family were so overjoyed
with her return that they had a huge celebration themselves
and doted over her so much as she was almost
lost to them forever. There were many precautions set into
place that night in that village, which have lived on

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throughout the centuries to sure that babies would no longer
be so easily swept up and taken by fairies in
the night, iron bars being hung above the crib, the
crib itself being made entirely of iron, pitting the infants
to night clothes, to the pillow or mattress of the crib,
sprinkling the child with holy water before bed and throughout
the day if they should be left alone for even

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a second. There were so many ways thought of to
protect infants and children back then from a fay. Abduction
of these precautions and all work, though, but for the
most part they did, or at least they seemed to.
Maybe it would be wise for those of us in
modern times who believe in and have respect for such things,
to take notice of and heed the warnings and advice

(02:14:13):
of preventative measures. Instead, though, we buy acute little kids
to build their own ferry gardens and sit alf totems
on a shelf at Christmas time, which unbeknownst to most people,
only provokes the all little spirits and advise them into
your home to do you even more harm. Aside from
the brownie species of the fae, we have yet to
find another who is inherently good and not known for

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any evil intentions or ill will towards the human race
who has plaid down their homes in the forest and
disrespected them by portraying them as goofy little scantily clad
women flying around sprinkling magic into little kid's eyes just
to play with them, or men just to days and
seduce them. Maybe we should give them more credit and
be more wise in their ways. Then maybe they'll stop

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abducting not only our children, but our hunters, our campers,
our hikers, our sightseers from the beautiful and majestic lands
in national parks and national forests that the faithfulk guard
so tightly and try so hard to keep us from destroy.

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
All right, tales and told missing person mysteries. Once again,
Steve stocked In going for the grand slam with another
epic tail. Here once again shout outs and prayers to
those families who still haven't seen their missing family members
and they're missing people. Yeah, good work, Steve Stockton. As

(02:15:36):
we go ahead and get ready to jump into some
weird UFO and weird news, let's go.

Speaker 8 (02:15:44):
Ladies and gentlemen, Can I leave to have your attention.
I've just been handed in adhd and horrifying news story.
Of your enjoy.

Speaker 1 (02:16:06):
All right, everybody, UFO and weird News of the week.
We're actually just gonna call this weird news. Uh, this
one is not UFO related, but it's crazy and in
this day and time, you would wonder how something like
this could happen. Apparently, Vegas nightclub responds after fake Justin
Bieber performed on stage and racked up ten thousand dollars

(02:16:30):
bar tab. Fake Justin Bieber in Las Vegas gets on
stage and performs. So fans, the venue owners, or the promoters,
all these people are obviously watching a performance of a
fake Justin Bieber, and they allow this gentleman to run

(02:16:53):
up a ten thousand dollars bar tab.

Speaker 2 (02:16:56):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:16:57):
So an impostor pulled the over the eyes of event
organizers and had a very nice time doing it. The
representatives of a nightclub who were duped by a fake
Justin Bieber had spoken out after the impostor racked up
a whopping ten thousand dollars bar tab, Knowing Las Vegas

(02:17:18):
that was probably only three drinks, but still now dubbed
Bustin Jieber, the phony pop star took to the stage
at XS Nightclub at the wind in Vegas on Saturday night,
August sixteenth, and the Wind These are one and more
of the higher end hotels, so it just blows my

(02:17:38):
mind how this could have happened, but he managed to
successfully dupe the venue crowd and DJ Griffin two Dot Awkward.
Bieber might have surprised fans with new music recently, but
his live performances have been few and far between, so
it caught people by surprise when Justin appeared for the

(02:17:59):
impromptu perform Mormance. DJ Griffin has shared his embarrassment at
falling for the trickster, confessing that the dark venue in
loud music didn't help. He explained how it happened quote,
so his team said he wanted to perform. Sorry, little
did I know I was about to be sorry, the

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DJ wrote after the fraud, after four minutes and twenty
seven seconds of what sounded like Justin Bieber, I found
out the worst news imaginable. Upon being told the performer
was a fake, Griffin's jaws dropped, as he exclaimed no way,
later adding I literally thought he put on a lot

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of weights. Since the album dropped, A statement has been
released on behalf of the venue following the Impostor's antics
Win spokesman Michael Weaver said, quote, after an elaborate and
multi step ruse by him and his advanced team, a
Justin Bieber impersonator was granted access to the stage. Quote.

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As soon as the error was recognized, he was removed
from the resort and denied future entry. Future in this
instant means forever they finished. Whoops. The impostor have been
named as Dylan desk Close online, and he has many

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the same tattoos as Justin Bieber, as well as his
buzz cut hairstyle. According to Neon, desk Clause did pay
for the ten thousand dollars bar tab before he was
escorted from the premises. Oh that was good. That was great.
Earlier footage shows the fake walking around and posing for
selfies with people. Fans have blasted him online quote to

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get the exact same tattoos as Justin Bieber and come
to a nightclub dot dot is psychotic. His Instagram account
has now disappeared, but prior to that, fans remarked it
was alarming how easily he was able to prank everyone. However,
others were pleased the club and DJ got just as

(02:20:14):
played as they did Bustin Jieber looked like a whole
vibe though. One joke, I just love that this guy
had a team. Another added another handled with class and grace,
praise one fan of the dupe DJ it looks like
Jieber won't be welcomed back there anytime soon. That's outstanding

(02:20:38):
and scary and creepy at the same time, because how
can you make a mistake like that?

Speaker 2 (02:20:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:20:46):
How can you allow someone on state? And we have
the same troubles in live streaming when it's like who
should we allow on the live stage? Right, because you
get someone up there that just you know, does something
the detriment to spaced out radio, then it ends up

(02:21:07):
being a problem.

Speaker 2 (02:21:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
But it's the trust, right, it's the end. It's like,
you know, someone circumventing your trust and getting into a
position where they then do something like this. So that's
pretty scary. I know, Justin Bieber is like, hey, free promo.
He's at the house. He didn't have to go out
and do the show. The guy ended up paying the
ten thousand dollars bar tab, where I imagine if he didn't,

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he was probably going to jail that night. And yeah,
I mean, I guess it's fun at the same time,
but it is also a scary situation to have anyone
out there perpetrating you right to being you, your identity.
And with that said, we're gonna go ahead and end

(02:21:51):
this show here tonight a little early, as we have
some things going on with Space Stout Radio offline for
the next week, as you heard Dave Scott talk about
last night until Monday of the following week. As you recall,
we did something like this last summer as we were
getting things together. We had two weeks off for the channel.

(02:22:13):
So we'll be taking the next week off and Dave
will be getting some things together. I'm gonna think about
some things, some things I could do to spice up
our show here, some things I can add or remove
and mix some things around. So we'll be playing with
some ideas for the next week. We will have reruns

(02:22:35):
or rewatches for you to watch. They're all good rewatches, though,
don't not tune in because it's a rewatch. We definitely
want to thank our guests here for tonight. Keith Evans
coming in talking paranormal and vampires, Stepping into the unknown.
We step into the wood tonight and not something we
normally do on a half hours radio show, but I
think the conversation was still great and we also want

(02:22:58):
to thank the demand that you hear right there bat
man Ron Bumba Football. He's the man that rocks us
out each and every weekends. He reminds us to never
say never again because yes, the phenomenon is real, and
that because of that, anything and everything beneath that is
definitely possible. Vamhires included. If you love the show tonight,

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we do.

Speaker 6 (02:23:27):
Appreciate you and our listeners online and fresseral radio digital
platforms when a wherever in the world you may be
listening or washing from, we appreciate you for tune of
your frequency to space out radio.

Speaker 1 (02:23:41):
Where we do what we do best.

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What is that you ask?

Speaker 1 (02:23:45):
We own the night. This show is copyright has faced
our radio SR Media eventure is limited. It has been
a pleasure serving you and continuing to serve you as
your host. I am mister Rob g. This is the
after hours radio show. Until all your space travelers out there,
don't worry. He's not a Goodbye North farewell, however, you

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can best believe as we go off here for the night,
we'll be back doing the same thing big time next time,
see you back here. Have a great rest of Unite guys,
take care,

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