Aug. 5/25 - The Christian MacLeod Experience

Christian MacLeod is a researcher of the unknown from his American Cryptid and Paranormal Society. Christian has started a monthly feature with us at Spaced Out Radio to talk all things odd and strange. Tonight we get into missing treasures and DB Cooper.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
spaced Out Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott. Thank
you for tuning us in as we have Christian McLoud
here with the experience. It is a brand new feature
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(00:43):
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We have an amazing show for you tonight, the Man,
the Myth and the paranormal legend Christian McLeod. He is

(02:50):
starting a monthly feature here on this show, which we're
going to call the Experience. It's going to be great,
We're going to get into some weird, strange news facts.
I had so much more with Christian coming up momentarily.
Then in our number three, Swamp Dweller will kick things
off with another spooky story. Then we'll lead into Robin Haynes,

(03:11):
who will be here for the Cryptid Report. So let's
get right to it. Geraldine Roscoe had to step away
from the show because she's moving. She's got her own
life together. So we were looking at what kind of
show could we do to fill this spot? And I
turned to our good friend Christian MacLeod and I said, Christian,

(03:34):
you got any ideas? And he's like, well, if you
keep putting that ugly picture on YouTube about me, absolutely
I do, because I love that photo. I do. Christian
is somebody who I absolutely adore and respect remarkably in
this field. He is a director and lead investigator of ACAPS.
Has over twenty five years of experience investigating everything from

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cryptid to paranormal activities, to UFOs and more. With a
passion for studying and preserving the Native American tribal culture, folklore,
and legends. He also knows about dealing with topics such
as the occult UFOs, forbidden archaeology, Freemasons, and so much more.
The American crypti and Paranormal Society LLC has worked in

(04:17):
conjunction with other people across North America to learn about
these subjects, and now he comes straight to Spaced Out Radio.
He's a good friend of this show, good friend of mine,
and we're glad to have him as part of the family.
Christian mcleoud, how you doing, my friend? Good to have
you here.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I'm alive and kicking my brother.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
How are you now? We have to tell people. I mean,
the reason why your audio is not up to par
tonight is because literally right before the show, you just
got your computer fixed and it crashed again.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
You know, Dave, It's just happening.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
It's like every time I go and do a show,
I get a computer issue, you know, And I used
to think it was nothing. Now I'm just getting blatantly
paranoid about it. I'm not gonna lie to you. I
started to think I've got people visiting the computer via
Bluetooth or Internet or some kind of hacking thing. But

(05:14):
I guess I'll just have to chalk that one up
to happenstance. I am sorry about this I probably. We
do have a brand new whole setup coming in. I
was supposed to be here last week, but something happened
with the shipping. So by next month, well we'll be
sating Crystal Claire.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
It'll be perfect.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
So I do apologize to the audience for that that
is on me. I did not think we're going to
have a computer failure, and not just one but two.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
By the way, Well, you know what the main thing is,
you are here tonight, and thank you, my friend, for
taking on this incredible journey that we're going to start
together here called the Experience on Spaced Out Radio, and
it'll happen near the beginning of each month. And I'm
excited about this because you're somebody who I highly respected
this field and I know that common you know, as

(06:01):
a shock to you of all people. But you've had
a trauma. I mean you know, yes I have. It's
too many concussions from hockey. That's what I'm blaming, right.
But what I want to say is very rarely in
this field of research and people and authors and you

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name it, have I come across somebody who I have
an instant brotherhood connection with, you know, and you were
literally one of the few, my friend, and and do
us a favor for people who may be listening to
you for the first time. Tell us how you got
into all of this and why these subjects of the
paranormal supernatural are such a passion for you.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well, and let me just reiterate by starting with you know,
David Spirtual, you know when when you and I met,
Christina was there, and I remember Christine's got just she's
got a radar with people, and the first thing she said,
that's a good guy. You can trust him, He's I mean,
that was the first thing. And she never says that,
especially with the people that we tend to surround ourselves with,

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because let's be honest, there's a we got a lot
of people in the field that are just kind of
out for themselves and they'll do whatever it takes, you say,
to be your buddy. But the second you know you
can't produce from you don't hear from them again. And
I hate saying that, but I think the crypto fields
the worst. I think we probably have the worst reputation
for that. And then that's sad because it's it's not true.
It's you know, ninety nine percent of the people that

(07:31):
we deal with are are awesome, but you know, there's
just that one bad apple in a bunch and that
they tend to get more publicity than anything else.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
But I'm honored. I can't wait. I think we should
be calling this the Christian McLeod Experience. By the way,
I'm just throwing that we can do that, We could
do it. I think, you know, I think I think
that's just.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I actually like that name. I'm going to change that
to the Christian McLeod Experience.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I like that. I can see the T shirts not selling.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Now I will buy one.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
What yeah, well, we'll just have one T shirt.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
We'll just take a picture of it. But I got
into all this. I'm originally from a small town in Maine,
and when I was a little kid, the house was haunted,
you know, but it was nothing new. Everyone of my
friends had a you know, a special friend in the house,
or there was a house guest that you know, we

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always talked about, and it was just kind of normal behavior.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
And then of course, because of that location, I was
also exposed to a bigfoot issue that happened I was
about five or six, and it's probably all to do
with the fact of where I was originally from, and
then when I moved to go to college, some of
these things didn't happen uh in Florida, where I moved to.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
So I always thought it was a little weird.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
And then that's when I really started, you know, to
kind of miss it and get into more research before
you note, twenty seven years ago is trickling by, and
here we are.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
How much How much fun do you have doing this?

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I have a blast, even when I'm running for my
life in the woods. Uh, I still have a blast
because it's like I consider every investigation like an adventure,
and uh, you know, you can never have too many
of those. And the cool thing is like the crew
I do this with, you know, I get to do
this with the you know, love my life, my Christina,

(09:30):
and you know, she's and she's very good at this.
Uh she's she's got a natural ability in the woods.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Joe.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
She her dad, my father in law.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
He should be getting medals of honor for the way
he raised his daughter because you know, she's just fun
to hang out with and she's not afraid of the
woods or bugs or things like that.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
So I'm very lucky. And of course I've got Tiny,
I've got you, I've got Robin, I've got you know.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Molder, Uh, you know Koombo. I mean, all these all
these great people. Uh, what's a little what's his real name?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Merlin?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I go to.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Kobe, thank you, and we've got Kobe. So I have
different nicknames for people, so sometimes I forget their real ones.
But you know, I've just been blessed. I've been very blessed.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
And then you know, to.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Top it off, uh, you know, uh, my my particular
religious persuasion UH doesn't mock me for what I do.
In fact, you know, they've they've often told me if
I needed help or anything like that, they're hair for me.
So I feel very very lucky. And of course, you know,
working with Joshua P. Warren and Dad and Brian. Uh,

(10:35):
you know, it's just it's it's it's it's not like work.
It's just like I enjoy what I do to the
point where you know, I have fun with it. It's
not I can't. Sometimes it's like hard to believe I
get paid for it. So it's it's just I feel
very blessed.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
The journey that you have put yourself on to find
answers to the unknown. Have you, since you've been on
this journey, realized that there are answers out there we
just can't find them, or do you think that this
is all part of life and that there are some
mysteries that maybe we're just never going to know.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Damn, Dave, that's a good question. But the truth is
I think we'll find out. Thank you, Christina, just make
a point. We'll find out when we're supposed to. But
I definitely think there's answers out there. I think people
have them, they just don't want to share. You know,
knowledge is power and it's been a way to control
the masses since day one, and nothing's changed. I think
that's still what happens. I will say this, though, I've

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I've been lucky enough to kind of find some of
the things. I found what I was looking for. I
have found a few things, and sometimes the answers are
blatantly right there in your face. But they're so blatant
you're not thinking that's the correct answers that makes sense.
It's just it's always right there and you just have
to pay attention, and it's just blatantly obvious.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
What is something that you've learned.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
One of the biggest things I've learned is is never
waste time. You know, I've spoken, I've seen I always say,
this does not sound like a weirdo. I've seen things
that I can't explain. I've had encounters with things I
can't explain. I've had communication with things I can explain.
But the one thing that I got from the message,

(12:22):
the main idea I got, was don't waste time, you know,
don't don't waste time being upset, don't waste time being angry,
don't be jealous. Just be a good person, you.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Know, and that follows you wherever you go.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
And I think a lot of the things that we've
investigated over the years of the paranormal that there's always
been an issue is these people weren't nice, you know,
and they pass away. They knew where they're going to go,
and they don't want to go there, so they choose
to stay and you know, continue to make life principle
for other people. So I think, you know, if you
lead a good life, you're just a good person. You know,

(12:57):
you don't have to worry about stuff. And honestly, that
was my big takeaway. You know, I'm gonna tell you something,
right now.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Dave, I've I've never publicly admitted this, but when I
was in my twenties, I was pretty much an atheist.
I refused to believe things.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
And then I ran into a gentleman named Malachi Martin.
Are you familiar with him? Yes, Malachi Martin kind of
changed my life. I saw him in Boston once and then.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I'll tell you this. I saw him onlike on a
Friday night.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
He did one of his talks and I was in
church Sunday morning, and that kind of put me back
on the trail. And ever since then, I'm just a
firm believer that, you know, the big man upstairs is
designs for everyone, and we used to have to listen
and pay attention. But I think that the best thing

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you can be for this life in the next life
is just be a good person.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
You chase down monsters, you chase down ghosts, UFOs, you
name it. What's what's your favorite.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Easy women? No, I'm kidding, I joke, I kids.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
I just want to see a smile. Dude, I haven't
seen I haven't seen you laugh. I haven't embarrassed you
in a while. Uh, honestly, they my favorite. I'm just
like I'm so I want the fuzzball man, I want Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I just want to hang out with him for a day.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
That's why I see we guys. I'll have a beer
with him. Yes, I'll bring a flask. We'll just we'll
just go from there.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know what I have to say, Man that I am.
I'm along the exact same lines as you. I just
I just want to get really if and I hope
I have the intestinal fortitude that if that situation happens,
I don't, you know, do something stupid like have a
heart attack right there because of it.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know, you know, listen, you're you're tough man.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
I think the only thing you would have to worry about, honestly,
and I'm just saying this. I don't mean to cut
you off, but the old only thing that would scare
you is if you had your son with you. You
be you'd just be terrified if someone that That would
be the only thing that would be an interest to
you is if the kid was with you and say
and you saw something, because then you're gonna kick in
the daddy mode.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
And that's that's what you are, your dad. Well you're
gonna I.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Have seen a Bigfoot with him.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, but it hasn't come up and said, hey, what's
going on, Junior.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, I know that something big like that or similar
is going to happen at our flight twenty one. I
don't know when. I just have this insurmountable feeling that
it's building. And our good mutual friend Robin Haynes and I,
her and I have talked about it and she's like, oh, yeah,
it's coming, it's coming.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
You know what, David here I wouldn't normally say about
most people because I don't want to think this is
a butt kissing you. But if anyone deserves that experience
or that kind of prestige, it's you, because you're like, man,
you did the right thing because not let's faceally, you
and I, if we're being one hundred percent honest, we
love the we love look of the answers. But the

(16:01):
truth of the matter is, if we had definable proof
one hundred percent, I'd probably call you and fly up
to your place, show you some video and say what
do you want to do? And you and I would
sit there, we drink a bolla Scotch and say absolutely nothing.
These guys don't need any problems, but we know for
ourselves that I think is is what compels me the most. Yeah,

(16:22):
just to sit down and have a select group of friends.
We'd have a nice neutral meeting place, probably in Nevada.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I'm thinking maybe Las Vegas. That would work for me,
definitely Vegas. And then I just say, here's what I found.
They're real. Everything we thought was real. By the way,
we're not sharing this with anyone because I don't want
anything to happen to them.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Well, it speaks more about you, guys. You care more
about the well being of the species that you care about,
and you care about your own notoriety or fame from discovered.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, I'm because I know you. That's how I look
at it. Dave.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Well, I mean, and I appreciate your sarcasm there, I do,
you know.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
But sarcasm true. People love you.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Oh, people love you too, they do, you know, they
just don't want to admit it in public. But you know,
I mean, that's just it. But I think if I
could have the ultimate experience, you know, there's two that
I would like to have. I would love to finish
up this show, walk outside after this show one night

(17:28):
and all of a sudden see a UFO on on
the ground in my backyard, because my big My backyard
is big enough, okay, And I put that out to
the universe.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Man.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Whether that ever happens or not, I don't know, but
I would love for it to happen. But with Flight
twenty one, I know we're close. I know we're so close,
and they are getting closer and closer, and I think
in another few weeks there will be finally trust built
up in regards to that, because it takes a while

(17:58):
to build up that trust. But I would just love
to have that open encounter, you know, maybe fifteen twenty
feet away, where there's no trees involved, there's no hiding
spots involved, and I would absolutely love to just look
at that creature and just say thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
I see. I don't think that'll happen. I think what's
gonna happen is I think this thing's going to look
at you, walk up to and give you a hug.
That's my personal opinion. Like, I know these aren't Harriet
and Henderson's. I know that.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
I know that for a fact, But I also think
they can do two things. They know intent and they
can feel love. And I think when certain people are
out there.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
And you know, and it all.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Goes back to I just think it's intent because that intent,
you have the tent where you want, you want answers,
but you're doing it with love. You're not going out there,
you're trying to wreck stuff. You're not trying to burn
stuff down. You have to try to shoot anything, you know.
And I think it's like it's like being a dog.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
You know, or or you know what.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Most it's hard not to have a dog love you.
I can't understand why people don't love dogs, but I
think dogs like are like all animals, and they can
tell if you mean them harm and uh, if you're
going to be a good person. And I don't trust
anyone that doesn't like dogs number one. But I think
when you take it, yeah, but when you take uh

(19:25):
and take it to the degree. With the Bigfoot, I mean,
we look look at the natural abilities they have, the
intelligence level all that. I think they can feel and
sense it the second I see you, so you'd have
nothing to worry about.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I think this thing would walk out of the woods
to give you a nuggy and give you a hug.
That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, if I find with this.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
If I was the Bigfoot, I'd give you a nuggi.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'll tell you this right now that if Bigfoot became
angry with me and attacked me and ripped my arm
off and beat me to death with it, I can't
wait to tell shape Peter at the gates man what
it's all about. And I'm gonna ask a point, blake,
come on, you haven't had this happen often? Like to me,

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that's a good death, that's a good day.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's sainthood right there. As far
as I'll do what I can do, I'll call Leo
for you. But I don't you know, that's that's sainthood
right there.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
But I don't think they'd harm you. I don't think
they've had opportunity to harm you. If they wanted to,
they would have done it by now. Man.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, that's the way I look at it, especially your place,
that that place got everything going on.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
You have to cryptive.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
You get the paranormal at the you get literally I can't.
You got the trains to mention you got everything happened
in that place that that I guarantee if you trace
some lay lines, I bet you got two or three
lay lines crossing that area somewhere.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, if they wanted to do your harm,
it would have happened. It's that's not it. You just
put out a good vibe. Man. You're you're not You're
not a jackass.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
You're not one of these hoaxers that I don't I
don't want to mention names on your show, but you
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
These people are just so full of it. I think
the second my wish.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Is for those people to actually have a real encounter,
the point where it scares them so bad they soil
themselves and then have to walk home in it.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's me. I'm bitter.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, I had some bitter. We got three minutes to
go before we go to break on the bottom of
the hour with the Christian McLeod experience here on Spaced
Out Radio. That's what we're going to title this new thing,
and I like the title. I'm not gonna wat. I
like the title Christian. When you and I were kind
of putting this project together for you to come on
once a month, you know, we wanted to kind of

(21:30):
stay away from, you know, the stories and everything. We
kind of wanted to get to some cool reports and
you've kind of I know what you got planned for
us tonight, But how did you come up with a
lot of these stories that you're going to be talking
about tonight and the relevance to this show.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I know you know this about me, but I do.
I'm a little bit of a treasure hunter and in
real life, like my real I'm a history professor. I'm
our teacher, and I teach history.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
And along with history, you know, there's a lot of legends,
and there's of course lost treasures and things like that.
And when I was former an American cryptioan paranormal, our
logo is rediscovering lost legends, and of course a lot
of that involves Native American folklore, but it also involves
you like lost treasure and things like that. Christina and
I and then you know, Tiny, we do a lot

(22:23):
of stuff where people call us and say, hey, you
know there's an old family legend about something that robbed
a bank in the thirties and they buried it in
the woods and it was by this tree and stuff
like that. I can't walk away from stuff like that.
I'll put a drone up and we'll just take hours
of video of the land and we'll go look at
it and see if we can find stuff. I mean
that to me, I love that. I love metal detecting,

(22:43):
just any kind of treasure hunting. I've always loved that.
That's kind of like a passion of mine.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
And that was actually one of the reasons why I
became a commercial diver is because I kind of got
gold fever when I became a certified scuba diver through Now, we.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Found some stuff in Key West, and I know you've
heard the term gold fever, but let me as sure you,
my friend, that is humerson real. I spent a year
of my life on the water there's not a boat
looking for treasure, and then we thought we found something.
And then of course I believe it was Hurricane Charlie
wrecked that. But it's yeah, I don't want to talk

(23:23):
about it. There's don't need and someone brought up a
piracy charge that may or may not have happened.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
That was not necessary, and.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
It's just one of those things where it's like it's
just kind of like in the blood, it's in the DNA,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
And I can tell you.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Right now that if you if you gave that I
know you've got a lot going on. You're a busy man,
your you know, your husband, your father, your businessman.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
You got disc going on.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
But I guarantee you if you've got fifteen twenty minutes
with the metal detector and you found something, you'd be hooked.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, I would agree. I would agree with you. I
just don't need another hobby right now, because yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Get that, I totally get that.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
It's addictive too.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
We've got a new metal detector that we can use
underwater with our scuba gear.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
We are itching to.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Try it well, you know, before we go to break here.
The one thing that I would tell you guys to
get you excited to come up here. There is a
lot of lost gold along the gold Rush trail. You
got to check that out. We have the Christian McCloud
Experience happening here on Spaced Out Radio. It is a
brand new segment that we will bring to you each

(24:31):
and every month here on this show where we talk
about monsters, legends, hidden gems around the world. It's going
to be interesting. I hope you enjoy it. I'm going
to we get started next, all right, we clear, Uh,

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let me just quickly say hello, Tom Monica Davis, How
are you, Tom King? How you doing? Buddy, Hope, you're
having a great night? Tuning in and ub to Joe's Mane.
You've got aliens. Let's see here. Who else jumped in here?
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Nolan Henderson Bill North Carolina?

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Eh?

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Hour cool? I might be planning on something, all right,
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am taking the final week of August off. Okay, we're
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the studio here and I want to make sure that
I have everything going that we need to have going

(26:39):
for this show. And I want to try and get
a new look going on for the studio. And you know,
make it look a little bit more professional, shall we say.
I don't know that's the word, but you know what,
we're going to make it look good in here. And
so Tim, James and I are going to be working
on the studio and a brand new look. So if

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you guys were and what we're going to do here
and it was my idea, I'm taking credit for it,
is we're actually going to be. We'll probably be live
so like we'll be working around. If you guys want
to come hang out during those nights and just hang
out with us, I'm cool with that, and I don't

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mind turning the servers on to make sure that we
have something going here if you guys want to join us.
But we're not scheduling any guests for that week, so
that way we could do the shift over in the
studio to try and figure out how to do it.
There might be a certain period of time where we
have to disconnect everything. We will keep you in touch,

(27:49):
but just want to let you guys all know that
that we will be taking that time off. Which reminds me,
I got to order something here. Mm hmmmm yeah, I
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Mmmmmm. That's the board. We want Roadcaster Pro two. Mm hmmm.

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We got about a minute and a half there, Christian,
no problem. Oh, hold on, I have something for your
wafy here.

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I don't break this out for just anybody. Okay, this
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for you, my dear.

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Make sure there it is.

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What's good on you?

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Man?

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Good?

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Tell me about it? Tell me about it. Emperor Penguin,
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when are you and Mark coming up? You're supposed to
be coming up here soon?

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M h.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
M hmm.

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Our new monthly edition called the Christian McCloud Experience happening

(31:25):
right now with investigator researcher Christian McCloud. He has a
plethora of great information for us, and we are going
to get started right off the bat, Christian, because you
have some amazing stories that you want to share with us.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
These are stories I look at even when I'm doing
my research, you know, for Crypler parent roll things.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I find these things and they're just they're fascinating to me.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
And I think our first topic, you know, we talked about,
is about a guy named Jefferson Davis and Confederate Gold,
and that also involves something called the Knights of the
Golden Circle.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
And it is an incredible story because it.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Talks, or it basically talks about the two hundred thousand
dollars worth of gold that disappeared after the Confederate saw
fel during the Civil War. And for those of you
who are not familiar with that, let me give my
Canadian brothers and sisters a little update on that.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
That was what ended slavery in America.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
I'm sure you guys know that, but I just like
copping off on that so we know we're talking. We're
talking about from eighteen sixty one to eighteen sixty five.
And it's also involves the assassination of the President of
the United States, one of the greatest guys that ever
lived at gun named Abraham Lincoln, sixteenth President, and all
the things he did for the country to turn it
into the great place that it is today. And there

(32:54):
was a lot of people working against them that were
even in his own partying cabinet. But it all connects
basically through gold and greed. And I think most people
can think they can look at today's lifestyle and think,
you know what, not a whole lot's changed. Sad to Dave,

(33:14):
it's all about what it's all about the Ducats. Even today,
it's a cool story. So what happens is the Confederate
States of America were actually established before Abraham Lincoln took
office in March of eighteen sixty one, and they had,
of course again their their Jefferson Davis was their president,

(33:37):
and their vice president guy named Alexander Stevens, and their
ideology was basically, you know, slavery is what keeps the
bank going, It's what's faying the bills. And I know
how sad that is to hear a human beings say that,
but that's what that was the times, you know what
I mean That that wasn't I'm not saying it was right,
but I'm saying that that was the way the world

(34:00):
was back then. The South in America was definitely at
this point in time a powder keke because you had
people that did not want slavery, and the people that
wanted slavery were the ones that basically were.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Controlling the economy in the South.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Now, what most people don't realize is while all this
is going on.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
You know who's stick of their nose in everyone's business,
right is England.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
England hasn't left the colonies all that, They've always had
their little finger on the button and they've been waiting
for something to disrupt. So one of the problems with
having the Confederate States of America is they were very
much in a league with London in England and the Queen,
and they wanted us to basically fight to the point

(34:48):
where they would come in, take over and start everything
back out. And that's kind of one of the reasons
why it's so important to remember that the Confederacy was
just a horrible thing, because they probably would have been
that the Buines in the United States of America, and
that would not have been good for a canon at
that point because the French influence probably would have been,

(35:11):
you know, attacked again, if that makes sense. So it
would have been a whole different world. Does that make
you see where I'm.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Going with that?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I see where you're going. This is a nice history lesson,
thank you?

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well yeah, well you kind of got to have the
history to get to get the whole story. So Jefferson
Davis towards when he's realizing that the Confederacy is going
to lose, he disappears from Richmond, Virginia with what they
think was between two hundred thousand dollars or a million

(35:42):
dollars in gold, cash and jewelry, and he is basically
he's on the run and he's he's hiding from everyone,
and then he gets arrested. And when he gets arrested
in May eighteen sixty five, he was It's actually kind
of funny. He gets he gets arrested and he's wearing

(36:04):
his wife's.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Shawl.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
So when he gets popped, a lot of people think
he's disguising himself as a woman and all actuality what
he was it was probably because it was cold, But
I like to think the shawl thing is true because
it kind of makes me laugh. Now is the problem
we have historically is what most people don't realize. Had
had Jeffsen Davis not been in league with the Knights

(36:29):
of the Golden Circle, and we strongly believe that the Knights.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Of the Golden Circle are the ones who wins to
John Wilkes Booth basically to assassinate Lincoln and Fords Theater,
he probably would have been better off.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Because what most people don't realize is when President Andrew
Davis takes over, I'm sorry, Andrew Johnson takes over. He's
not a fan of what happened in the South, and
he kind of hands it to him a little bit more.
And that's where you have all the reconstruction issues start from.
So the whole thing here is not going over this

(37:00):
the way I am is, because the whole thing is connected.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Does that make sense? Yes, I mean it's all connected now.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Jamiskits Davis Skets arrested on May tenth in Michigan, and
the thought processes guess where he's running to Canada?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Exactly why is he going to Canada?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Freedom?

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Freedom?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
And he's got a foothold with the Knights of the
Golden Circle there, Okay, because what they did they established
a foothold in several Canadian and major cities in Canada
years before the Civil War happens, and the truth of matters,
the Confederacy knew that was going to happen, and then
they were planning for it. I mean, these people, you know,
as much as you can say about these people, are

(37:43):
not stupid. They were very methodical in the way their
planning was. And then they were they were thinking ahead.
Now I can't possibly imagine a world where they thought
they were going to win towards when eighteen sixty four
eighteen sixty five happens. So I think they were planning
on disappearing with this before that. Now, before Davis gets

(38:05):
arrested on May tenth, he in trusts about ninety thousand
dollars of gold to two naval officers from the Federacy.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
And guess where they're taking that.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Canada?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
No, England, well, Commonwealth, Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Mean they're taking it to England to hide it so
they can have resources for then they think they're going
to start again, because the whole time the Confederacy he's falling,
they don't realize that they're done.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
They think that they're going to rise again.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
And most people don't realize that there's this huge belief
and it is throughout the entire self that the Confederacy
will not fall, and if it does, it will rise again.
That mentality is still in several states. I'm proud to
say that I don't ecquit to any of them, but
it's it's still a thought process up here.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Now whether or not you believe in this stuff, you
know it's a.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Good story, but what happens is the Confederacy money disappears,
so you've got the one million dollars in gold that
Davis had.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
That vanishes. And then you've got one hundred thousand dollars
in gold that those two Salers had took to and
that vanishes. All right.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
All the money that was taken by the Confederacy, all right,
Only one hundred and forty thousand dollars were recovered. And
the problem is, for the last one hundred and fifty years,
there have been rumors and allegations that the Confederate gold
is basically buried somewhere, and a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Think it's Virginia. Now let me ask you this. Do
you ever see the movie Gone with the Wind?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I never have to be blunt, all right.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
It's Margaret Mitchell wrote Gone with the Wind. She was
actually my great aunt's college roommate. Funny enough, but when
she writes gone with a Win, she actually brings in
part of this legend. And there's allegations that Clark Gable,
who prayed Brett what was his last name, orrhtt Butler
excuse me, he plays rhet Butler actually is the one

(40:05):
that stole all the Confederacy gold and that's where they
get their wealth.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I never view.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
That that was never even Yeah, that's kind of yeah,
exactly like a Divisi code type situation. I was never
familiar with that, even as many times I was a
And then there's another move from nineteen sixty six called
the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and they're going
for two hundred thousand earth, two hundred thousand dollars worth
of gold that was stolen from the Confederacy that was

(40:32):
allegedly hidden in a cemetery. Now, from my own personal experience,
I think if there was gold stolen, a cemetery is
a great place to hide it, you know, because a
lot of people won't desecrate holy ground.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Now me two hundred thousand dollars back then, I don't
even know how much money that is today. Moved the decipoint.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
That's probably two hundred million. That worked twenty million to
ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
I don't care. I'm going it's I'll go dig it up.
I don't. I'm alright, Dave. Would you go dig it
up at a cemetery? I would have a problem with that.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
I do it quietly.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
I'd have a preach with me just in case, Hey,
you bless this. I'll give you guys, you know, I'll
give you tempers.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
I'll tie.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
I'll be fine, but I'm more than willing to do
that for you know, a cup of mil It's something
that I could live with. But the cool thing about this, this,
this whole legend, in this all this gold and the
Knights of the Golden Circle is the way it just
interprets how history happened. And then when you look at

(41:35):
you know, what they say in the history books, and
then when we look at what they say, Okay, this happened,
and then this happened, it.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
All kind of intercepts. Does that make sense.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
It's like it's hard to prove any of this stuff
to be false because the Knights of the Golden Circle,
we know that was a real organization. We know they
helped John Welks Booth. We know Jesse James was part
of it. And one of the reasons why he was
robbing so many areas off the railroad back then was
because he was building up money to guess what start
the Confederacy again.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
And I'll tell you something.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Living in North Carolina, I live, I live in what
used to be the South. It's definitely not South anymore,
but what used to be the South, and there are legends,
in fact, we got a legend right down the street
about Confederate gold, uh that we're actually starting to look
into because it's it's actually got a little uh uh,
it's it's got some chops, that's all juice to it.

(42:24):
There actually might be something there, and it's it's very interesting.
But there's always some kind of legend where it's buried
in a graveyard, right, or it's in a family.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Graveyard, or it's in it's buried with a tomb or
something like that. And uh, a lot of people are
just afraid to dig it up somewhere.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
They're afraid to go because fighting.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Or yeah, or holy ground or or you know, it's
it's it's it's covered up.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I think that's your guess, sir.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
What are some of the clues that kind of lead
to where this gold may be.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Well, there's always there's always phrases, there's always markings on trees,
there's always a hap, there's always a map, David, There's
always some kind of map. And the thing with the
map is you never have the whole map, and part
of the map might lead.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
You to the rest of the map.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
And it's one of these things where when you do
this long enough, I will tell you straight up, X
doesn't usually mark the.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Spot the plate.

Speaker 7 (43:17):
The maps described places that aren't there anymore.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
That's you have geographical changes. There could be a kind
of development on top of this. You know, we just
don't know.

Speaker 7 (43:27):
Streames have changed, riggers have changed, course.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
I mean the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Even if you go back to you know, Virginia, Darren
and all that, that that's almost impossible to look up
anymore because the geographic geography has changed so much, and
then the maps have changed, so you know, it's it's
hard to tell.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
You won't have much Roanoke back in you know, fifteen
eighty four, fifteen eighty six, so and that you know,
that was not as you know, it's that was a
couple hundred years ago.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
This was only one hundred and fifty years ago. And
look at how much the face of the earth is
shame Since.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
Then, access to satellite imaging is going to change all
that though, there's going to be a lot more stuff
opened up because of access to it.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, but that doesn't know, it's amazing how faces can change,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah. Well, you know, then there's the natural you know,
most people don't realize this. There's also the natural frequency
of elements, and this is something in the military. I
know for a fact the military does this.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
When I was a commercial diver, we used to hear
legends or rumors that the military is scanned the Gulf
of Mexico. There's three hundred and sixty five known recks
with over a billion dollars in each one of them,
and they know where each one of them is and
they're either.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Gonna pick them clean, Y're gonna leave them there and
get them when they need them. Now, to me, that
makes sense. Everything has a natural frequency.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
So if you can have the natural frequency, even element
from the satellite, there's nothing you can hide. So I
think that's part of the next big treasure game. You know,
it's I don't know, you know, it's fascinating when you
think about it, because there's so many possibilities.

Speaker 7 (44:59):
Are there's something we don't want.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
To discovered because of what the discovery would reveal about
the history.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, but I don't think they care about that anymore.
I don't think they care about that anymore. I think
it's just about the money.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Where do you think the location of this gold is
me personally?

Speaker 3 (45:16):
And this is just me?

Speaker 4 (45:17):
I think it's somewhere on the Appalachian Trail. I think
it's somewhere between.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
You know, they think it's in Virginia, but the truth
of the matter is, I think it's no. I think
it's in North Carolina. I think it's in North Carolina.
I think it's on the border between Virginia and North Carolina.
That's that's just or that's just me. I will tell
you this. We are going to be doing a little
summer vacation looking.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
For it when we go to Roanoke and do some
more research there. But it's it's definitely something that's in
our top ten list. And I'll tell you something else, man,
I honestly believe I don't think it's been found. There
was a rumor that in the late eighties the FBI
found it and they used and then just base kept
it all.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
But they can't.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Yeah, but you know that's that they'd have to report that, so,
I mean that would be illegal.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
So if that was come to light, you know, Uh,
the truth of matters, you just don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
But it's one of these things where you know, until
you find it, you're not going to realize how much
it is.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Because this this, you know, we could think, oh hey
it's treasure, blah blah blah. Then you find it and
it's you know, uh, it's someone's lucky charm or rabbit's.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Foot and you know maybe a you know, a nickel
or something.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
So we just don't know, but it's it's just one
of these things where it's it's it's some people are
just compelled, you know, to go.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Out look for stuff like that. And I completely understand that.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Like I said, once you get the gold fever, and
that happened to me when I was twenty five. I
found I found some I found a piece of gold
in the bottom of the ocean. Was twenty five, and
it took me four years to get over that gold fever.
And like I said, I went and I quit my job.
I became a professional treasure hunter. And then I uh,
I went to a commercial diving school, became a commercial

(47:00):
diver under ordered demolish and salvage. That's why I specialized
in and that just made me want to do it
more so. I mean, I totally get that, like when people,
you know, they're actually real professional treasure hunters out there.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
There's companies that specifically do that. Now. I don't know how.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
They finance it or who pays the bills, but you know,
I would love I would love to get the water
one more one last time and find something, you know,
because like I said, there's three hundred and sixty five
known wrecks out in the Gulf Mexico alone, you know.
And I have ties to Florida, you know, I went
to high school and college there.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
That's where I met Christina, and she's got ties out there.
I would love to have one, you know, good trip
out past the keys into a couple of areas that
I think are very active. You know. It's funny.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
I still have charge and things from that time. Dave,
you know, every once in a while.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
Look at him, has never been deep diving together to either.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
That would be fun.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
We got six and a half minutes left before we
have to go to break. Let's go to our next story.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Okay, well, all right, the ten most wanted stolen Artifacts.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
All right, we're on the theme here. There's a theme
going here, and the theme is the most ten folds
bone and stolen our artifacts. All right.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Number one, I wouldn't even attempt to go looking for this,
but It's called.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
The Amber Room in Russia, and the Amber Room was
called the eighth Wonder of the world. It was completely
covered in glowing amber panels, gold leaf and dams like mirrors.
A room is so beautiful that reportly took the breath
of anyone away from it. Was built in the eighteenth.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Century in Russia's Catherine's Palace, and it was symbol as
imperial splendor. And it was stolen, of course, in World
War Two by the Nazis, dismantled and transported entirely out
of Russia, and since then we have no idea where
this is.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Now. This is a story. I think it's cool because.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Not only do you have the theory that was it
was completely taken apart, it was allegedly taken apart and
putting two crange train cars.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
And then where this gets where it ends up?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Hm, Guys, where it ends up, Dave, I'm trying to
think here England.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
No, Germany.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Allegedly it goes onto the Germany Polish border and they
completely blow up a tunnel system that's hidden in and
to this day that's.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Where it is now.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
I actually spoke to a guy that was checking on
this in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
This was years ago.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
I met him at a actually we were kind of
was kind of a convention for treasure hunters, but it
was it was more like a equipment thing. But I
met him and he had materials, uh and and blueprints
of a train station that was allegedly blown up to

(49:57):
keep this stuff hidden so they could come back and
get it after the Reich fell and people forgot about it. Now,
if you believe in this, of course you're going to
have to believe that Hitler didn't die. He went to Argentina.
I've read the CIA documentation on that.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
I don't know if you have.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
But Hitler, I don't think he died more work too.
I think he died probably in the seventies and Argentina.
But this would make sense because that all connects because
if you're read you know, yeah, I mean, look at
where they found the boys from Brazil. I mean they
are all the Nazi scientists, and where they found in
Brazil Argentina. So it's probably something that was going to

(50:35):
be tucked away for something later, and I'm guessing that's
what they did. So the truth of the matter is they've
never found that room, and they think that it's hidden
in the German Polish border, but it was collapsed on
both sides purposely and has yet to be dug out.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Now, whether or not that's true, who knows. Who knows.
I firmly believe that is. It's a possibility.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
I think it's totally possible, because there's still things we
have no idea that happened World War two. We can't
we don't even know what happened to Hitler, do we.
You can't identify, you can't people. You know, when Russia says, oh,
we found a skull, then it turns out it's a
woman's skull. You know that's not you know, Okay, we
don't know what happened to have a brown you know,
we found what they found, two burnt up bodies.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
It could have been made.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
We don't know who those people were. Yeah, and we
don't know what really happened to that, that whole thing.
I still think they hit I found that. I think
they found the U boat and I think they showed
up uh. And I think they either made it to
Antarctica where we would have Base two two one and
we all know about that, or they made it to
Argentina and they lived the high life. I mean you

(51:44):
you basically have little German. Have you seen ever seeing
a dumb Aunt documentary on that?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
I mean, how where else are you gonna put I mean,
who else is gonna put up Nazi paraphernalia in the
fifties than Nazis? I mean that's and then they had
that whole mountain area and all they do is speak German.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
And I don't know about you, but the last time
I was in South America, a bunch of blood here,
blue white people run around the mountains saying the hills
are alive.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Didn't look Hispanic to me. So you know, it's just
one of those things where I'm definitely thinking that probably happened.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
What's what's number nine?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Number nine? We got two minutes, well two minutes, all right,
this one.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
This one's still something very interesting to me because they
think that this one.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
So it's called the Gardner Museum.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Heist and the USA and this is about in Boston
when thirteen masterpieces were stolen out of a museum and
they came to five hundred million dollars and then they
were allegedly found recently, not recently, probably two years ago now,
The problem with that is, from what I understand, they

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haven't talked about it much because the alleged painting they
found may or may not have been forgeries, so.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
We can't prove if they're real or not.

Speaker 7 (53:06):
It's inspired a ton of movies.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
And oh, what's a toll heist? I mean, who wouldn't
want five hundred million they are?

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Let me ask you some Dave, what would you do
if someone says, all right, Dave, we need, we need,
we're gonna pull heist. Of course we have the eighteen
van because that's really all you need to pull a heist,
and uh, we want you in for five hundred million.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
What's what's your thoughts on that steal?

Speaker 1 (53:26):
All these renaissance I would do it for a klondyke bar.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
It's hurt, no one gets hurt, that's the deal.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I do it for a klondike bar.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
I would a gold klondike bar. Actually I just had
that heath bar crunch Klondike bars.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
It was just it was great. This is my favorites.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
So over three decades later, the paintings remained despite an
enormous reward.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Uh, people just don't know where they are. Now. Here's
the thing.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
With this, I personally think that not only were they found,
not only were they found, but I don't think they
wanted to pay the the lost them or we're returning
because I'm I'm pretty sure I could be wrong, but
I'm pretty sure I remember reading these guys got to payout.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
So here's my thing. Would you rather have the five
hundred million in cash or the art? Let me think
about this for minute.

Speaker 7 (54:17):
Here the art and the expertise of the geniuses.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I mean, frankly, I got to give these guys more
credit than the artists because these guys, I mean, putting
the heist together is not easy. These guys they killed
it man, that that should have been. Aren't they making
a movie on that? Or do they beat him? Do
they make a movie?

Speaker 7 (54:34):
So it's seriously, they've made an it's just.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
A it's a it's a cool thing. I mean, and
you know what every guy wants to do a heist,
be honest.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Hold right there, guys, because we are going to go
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Speaker 11 (54:59):
FA I don't break you anything with hopes Dave.

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Scott all right, Christian, We're gonna take about a five
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It's gorgeous, best picture I've ever taken. Right there, m HM.

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the world and here comes number eight. Christian. Welcome back.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
All right, thanks man, you know day. Let me ask
you a question. Have you ever seen the Crown Jewels
of Ireland. No, if you are on a computer and
you can google this, you should do it because it's
actually as.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
An irishman kind of have to laugh at this thing
because it looks like, honestly, someone went to the beach,
they found a bunch of rocks and they stuck on
a gold backing and said, hey, we're going to call
this our Crown Jewels.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
And they actually disappeared in nineteen oh seven and they
were stolen from a Dublin castle without a trace, and
to this day absolutely nobody has a clue what happened
to them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I have a theory, but that's just me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
And before we start talking about I really would like
you to take a look at this thing because it's
it's something to behold, because.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I want you to think about this. When you look
at like the English Crown Jewels or any other Crown
jewels fand the country, you're going to think to yourself,
what happened to Ireland?

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah? Those are ugly, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Well they don't look like anything you said. They look
like a bunch of rocks, you know, I mean, they're
not even shying, you know what. I'm Yes, there's supposed
to be crown jewels and everything, and they're just it's
just nothing. The theft happened just before King Edward the
Seven's visited Ireland, causing massive embarrassment to the British crown.

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Suspicion fellow a gentleman named Arthur Vickers. He was the
Ulster King of Arms responsible with the jewels safekeeping, but
he maintained his innocence until his death. Some believe the
Irish Republican Army stole them to fund their independence and movement.
Now to me, that makes sense. But here's again I
have to think to myself, who looks at that and says, hey,

(01:04:36):
here's an idea, let's steal that and make some money.
And again, if.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
The viewers would just google the Crown Jewels of Ireland,
they would see what we're talking about. I just don't
see it, man, Dave, just by looking at that, do
you've been seen it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Weren't they?

Speaker 8 (01:04:56):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
I mean there isn't a finished stone on that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
No, they're ugly and no offense Tireland.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
I'll cut This is like the poor man's king's crown.
This is like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
This should be like when did they go missing?

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Nineteen o seven, and I'm telling you this is like
your poor cousin Clem's crown. This is. But the funny
thing is they still haven't had any to this day.
They haven't got a clue as to what happened to it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
The funny thing about this is they don't even have
a rumor like they have absolutely no. They thought it
was a guy that was in charge of keeping eye
on him. They proved it wasn't him, it was anyone
in his family. They have no idea what happened on
this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
So here's my question to the thieves or anyone who
left responsible from nineteen oh seven, what what were you
thinking stealing this thing? I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Even the pearls on this just looked like rocks. I mean,
I've never heard of Irish pearls.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Of you know that I have done.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
So I'm not sure where any of these rocks came from.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
And the funny thing is, you think it'd be all emeralds,
because you know it's the mlile, But I think, what
is there three on there?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
And they're not even they're still uncut.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
So what makes me laugh about this whole thing is
you've got the Irish crown but all the stones are uncut.
It's like when they were making the English crown, like
you you guys got on the scraps, Go ahead, start
with that. But on a professional and pro Irish level

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that I am, the loss was a deep cup to
Irish history, leading mind questions I've never been answered down
here's my thing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
What are the chances this thing is still in one piece?

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I would say it is, you know, and I'll tell
you why. I'll tell you why because recently on Netflix,
I have been binge watching over the last month and
a half on a show called The Blacklist with James Spader.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
God I love that show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Oh my god, that show is so addicting. I even
watched an episode. I'm on season six, and I'm really
upset that I'm already halfway through this. But the way
he talks about all of these secret societies and secret
groups and the and the you know, the white collar
theft that happens between everything from art to jewelry to

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weaponry to people and everything that goes along with it.
It completely completely makes me think that there is this
almost like Illuminati type of people out there who will
do anything for this type of jewelry or art or

(01:07:55):
something along those lines, and I am completely convinced that
this would still be together. But it's in the hands
of some ouligarc around the world that does a lot
of black market stuff that that you know, bids on
this kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
Or this little circle that traded all of that.

Speaker 11 (01:08:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
You know, the cool thing is about I love the
folklore mythology about the Illuminati. And of course I don't
know if you knew this, but I'm I'm a master Mason.
I'm a former worstful master of my life, and I
guess my particular lodge we didn't have anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
In the Illuminati because and I'm not too thrilled about that,
because I'm like, how do you hook up with these people?
And how do you get on the payroll? That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
But no, I you know, it's hard for me to
believe like Masonic conspiracies because I've been.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
One, you know, for you know, quite a long time.
Like I said, I rose up into ranks. I was
the worstfe master for one of the biggest is in
North Carolina. And uh, not only.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Was everyone to Valley religious, but we we never had
any uh I guess, stolen artifacts or anything if we did,
they didn't tell me about him when sure he takes
me off. Yeah, I couldn't get any in exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
You think it would have made some connections, but no,
So I'm upset about that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
I'm just saying, doesn't the Blacklist make you want to
be friends with him and that little little group that
he has?

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
Yes, like Inner Circle?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Oh, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. I would love
to be love James Spader.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
He's like one of my favorite actors. I love that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
I love James Spader. Big shout out to James Space played.

Speaker 9 (01:09:42):
Is awesome too.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
I love that show.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
We both do the same for Dora too. We have
the same stats and we should have.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Hey, can you get James Spader art for the next
Christian McLoud Experience?

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
I would love to How cool would that be?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Oh? He played that, you know, totally off topic. He
played that role in credit he did.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
He's just everything he does. Look at how good he
was in the office.

Speaker 7 (01:10:04):
He's so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
I mean, you know when he was Robert California and
he's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
He's just hilarious.

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
Yeah, but on the Blacklist, man was he cool? You
just oh, he wanted to be his friend.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Oh yeah, well, which we're thinking, all right, guys. Our next,
our next heist and plunder mystery is Alaric's Roman plunder. Now,
Alaric the Visigov sacked Roman four to ten Common era.
He carried away treasures that would modern make museums drool.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
The loot included sacred Jewish manoir from Solomon's Temple, golden vessels,
and precious artifacts accumulated over centuries of Roman colonist. Alaric
died soon after the Southern Italy, soon after in Southern Italy,
and the legend says he was buried with his treasure.
Now is his one where you basically, I personally think

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they left.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Some clues.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Because of the way the legend goes, because listen this,
this is where it gets real interesting. According to the
ancient sources, Alrich's followers diverted the Bastinia River their coins
of Nzia, buried their king with his treasure in the
river bed, and then redirected the water back over the grave.

(01:11:25):
So literally what they think is they stopped the river,
they dried it out for a little bed, they built
the crypt, they put the king and all his all
all his stuff in there and then they put the
river back over on top of it. Now, how do
you even think that's possible?

Speaker 7 (01:11:45):
See you get under this rage of river.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
We're talking four ten Common Era, so we're talking four
ten after Christ, we're talking the year four ten.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
I don't think they diverted a river for that, not
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
I don't think they could have. Now a lot of
people think the Egyptians the Verdi rivers to move, which
I don't believe. I believe that's one hundred percent alien.
I don't believe that had anything. That's just me. But
that's different. That's a different topic.

Speaker 7 (01:12:13):
We'll talk about it. Alien technology.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
It's the only technology you can't to this day. They
can't even we can't put stones together the way those
put together, and they're five thousand years ago. And you
know how much research I've done on Egypt. I'm looking
out the wall right now. That's gonna be one of
our topics next couple of months. Uh uh.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
The Egyptian what I like to call it conspiracy because
what we've what everyone things happened with tut didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
It's a whole things of conspiracy. But we'll talk about
that in a couple of months. Now here's here's being foute.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Multiple attempts have been made to drain and redirect the river,
but they've all failed. Modern archaeologial surveys continue, but Alaric's
grave remains elusive, as the king was in life. In
other words, it wasn't chances of this thing being real. Now,
the Manora from Solomon's Temple, that is something that's right

(01:13:05):
up there with the Lost Ark.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Of the Covenant. People have been looking for that bad.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Boy for centuries. Well, here's my question, what is the
artificial armstar? What is the architectural mount architecture, the archaeological
value of something like that? Do you think, Dave, that
people would actually do the right thing and turn that
in and you think they melt it down sell for
scrap gold?

Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
Did you mean that just sounds like a really good story.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
A really good story is better than a great hiding place.
All you have to do is have a great story
about them hiding it under a river. You hide it
nearby in a mountain side, and everybody's focused on trying
to find it under the river, which they can never do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Yeah, but is that river store just a knockoff of
Moses in the Red Sea. All right. That's the problem
is that we don't have the historical aspects to find
out what really happened. It's but see, this is why
history is so fascinating, because you know, it's a good line.
You know what's happening.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Some guys going to be digging a hole to plant
the treat one day, and she's just kind of find
all of it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
I mean, it's it's just brilliant because you just never
know where it is. And that brings us to our
next topic, the missing Faberge Masterpieces. Tell me, my dear,
are you familiar with the Faberge egg legends? Yes, yes, yes,
Faberge eggs. Are you familiar with those.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Dave, yes, Faberge eggs?

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
So they were fifty fifty Imperial Easter eggs created by
Carl Faberget for the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Russian royal family. Eight remain missing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Now the ones that are missing, of course, are the
ones that are most valuable.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
So there's a lot of people that think that there's
a connection to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
Of course, the Romanov fall and you know Nicholassar and
all this film and getting killed. But let me ask
you this, these were the most desirable of all fifty
and they're missing. Do you think these things ended up
in someone's bookshelf or you think they were sold?

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I would say that they're probably in a certain president's
house in Moscow.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Yeah, you think Old Lad has them?

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Oh, he's putting on the on the eggs, that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:15:16):
I think at.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
Least one or two ended up in some oligarchs treasure
room or you know they I don't know about.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
This because here's why. Here's here's why I say this
is this is a fifty to fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
One with me, guys, because here's why.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
All right, you had the collapse of the Russian Empire, right, yes,
the Bolsheviks revolutions kicking in, and these things are made of.
The missing age includes the Royal Danish and the Allegyd
to the third Commemorative and they were last seen in
the Bolsheviks raided the Imperial Palace. Some have been sold
secretly to fund the Southern State, while others could have

(01:15:50):
been gathered dust in private collections. Occasionally, a missing February
gig services at auctions. The last one was Discoveryry for
this The last one was discovered twenty fourteen, and a
Midwest antique shop and was purchased for fourteen grand, later
valued at thirty three million. Now, the problem with these

(01:16:10):
fabage a eggs is they're also made out of incredibly
valuable materials. So if you know, if you're some guy
that's trying to start to come and it's party, you're
not looking at this thing like a piece of history.
You're looking like at the means production, okay, because that's
their whole thing. So you want to mark this thing up,
you know, smash it down, sell the platinum, sell the gold,

(01:16:30):
and sell the silver in it. I to me, that's
what makes me wonder if these things could still be around.

Speaker 6 (01:16:38):
But this is brilliant pieces of art because not only
do they have the gold and silver platinum jewels in them,
but they're absolutely beautiful and I've that little mechanical.

Speaker 7 (01:16:47):
Surprises in them.

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
But do this and that, I mean, they're they're really
marbles in themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Oh course, the marbles. But that doesn't mean that someone
is going to pay no attention.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
You know, if you're a Bolshevik, you're looking at this
thing like the West's influence on capitalism, and this is
what's destroyed your country.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
So you're gonna smash it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
So I think the problem is we got of.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Course they have, but I think what you got here
is I think you got a case where some of
them very might be in vlads back office. Some of
them could be you know, who's to say that one
of the Arab families, the air Reverends doesn't have it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
They have enough money to pay for something like that,
they or or you know, it could end up. It
could be in shine the bottom lines.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
We don't know what crying that would dispatched something amazing
like that for.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Its right, But they don't get again, look at the timeframe.
They didn't care about that. They let me ask you
a question. You run onto a faberge, what are you
gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
I'm gonna sell it. I'm putting it up for auction.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
All right, I'm with you. I'm with you. So we
find them, we'll just sell it. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
The biggest one of the things that makes me laugh
is like when people do like this historical search and
and you know, they find these things, you know, they
really don't make much off of them, you know that, right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
That's why these companies that are actually professional divers and
treasure hunters don't disclose what they're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
I was in Sarasota, Florida when that group from Tampa
found the thirty three million dollars in silver off the
coast of what was it, Norway, Denmark, something like that,
and they actually brought it up, put it in lows
buckets and took it to that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Gem or the coinplace. Yeah, and they exchange there. They
actually had it in buckets and they were trying to
hide it from Miron. Shit. They might not. I think
they were trying to hide it. That's just me, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
But the problem is is like these guys went to
all this expense they paid to bring it up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
They risked their.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Lives, you know they you know, you're going down twelve
hundred feet in ice, cold water brings something update.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
This is not a safe thing to do. Commercial divers
have the number on most dangerous job on the planet.
When I used to go to work, we had a
twenty five percent chance of dining every time we got wet.
That's just how it is. These guys do that. They're
thrill seekers, but they're also looking for the payout. And
I totally get that because if someone called me right
now and said, hey, we need you wish your mock
five helmet.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
I'm on the way, you know, that's how Actually, of
course you do. But still, but these guys don't make
the money they think they are because you got to
pay the original port of origin and then you're going
to pay.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
The original country of origin and the license and then
the licensing fee and then wherever it is. So when
you get these people that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Pull up like the Aetotia, when they pulled up the
Attocho and mel Fischer pulled up the Atocha, he didn't
make all that money everyone thought he did.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
He were you know, he made good. Don't get me wrong.
He wasn't suffering.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
But remember yet all those investors he had to pay,
but he still had to pay the port of origin,
which was Columbia, and then the good country over Spain,
so they all got to taste of that action.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
So when these guys go out there and put.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
Their lives on line, they're basically, you know, just doing
it for the historic aspect because they don't get to
keep it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
They might get to keep one percent, maybe two if
they're lucky. So is that fair?

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Absolutely not. So here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
If I found and I'm just being honest with you, David.
If I said, Dave, I'm gonna go to Bahamas. I
got an idea where a wreck is from some of
my old treasure.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
On days, I'm looking at some of my maps and
some things have cleared up. I'm gonna need you to invest.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Me and you know, give me ten grand and I
need you to fly down there in a week to
help me out and we unload all this gold.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
What are we gonna do with it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Well, we're gonna call Raymond Reddington and see if we
can figure out a way to pawn it off. That's
for sure. We got three minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:20:45):
We got to get going here.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Actually, you're wrong. You're both wrong. You know what you
do really honestly, because I've thought about this. You don't
talk about it. You get it on land and then
you take it to someplace, oh in the middle, I
don't know, say New England. You get no, no, no, no,
no no no.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
You got to think big cure. All right, you bring
it up to today's smelting rates. How much is American gold?
What what's the percentage of any imperies in American gold?

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
I'm Canadian, I have no clue.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Okay, it's nine to nine point pure, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
The problem with the gold in that time pragate is
that you see use a lot of mercury and it's referent.
So you got to burn off all the mecrate mercury
and then you got to bring it up to today's standards. Basically,
you have to turn all that antique gold in the
new gold and then you have to sell it. Now,
where do you sell it? What's one of the biggest
gold changes, gold exchanges on the planet. Anyone know, anyone

(01:21:45):
that's not New York City.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
We're going back to the Emerald Isle, growing to Dublin,
and they're going on the gold exchange.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
And then you say it's family money, family gold. They
don't ask it questions, and then you start.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Flooding the market with it. And then when they tell
it right, but then when they test it, does it
come up as now it comes up as modern gold
because you get a millard just to fix it. See,
there's a whole lot of things you have to do
to make this a win win situation, and then she
just has to be Not that I would know or
have ever thought about it a lot, Not that I've

(01:22:18):
ever thought about this, Dave, but I can't. That's no,
it's just just off the top of my head. But
you'd have to do something like that. And you know,
Christine brought up a good point. The more gold you have,
what do you end up doing to the gold market.
You end up dropping the price.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
So you can't go out there and just drop you know, hey,
we got a billion dollars in gold. All right, it's
got you gotta be patient, you gotta be smart. And
that's what happens is people get, you know, too excited.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Ninety seconds. Give us the next one, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
The next one. I thought that one was pretty cool. Hey,
get in here. Sorry my again, my yeah, assistant walked
out on me and I don't have the all right,
And here we go with the other one. The Lost
Inca Emperor's Gold, Golden Secret. All right, this is one

(01:23:10):
of my favorites. This is also called the Golden Triangle.
But when the Spanish conquistner was captured the Incan Empire
of Entupia in fifteen thirty two, they demanded a ransom
of gold that would fill a room seventeen feet long,
twelve feet wide, and eight feet high. The Inca's band
discovered began delivering this ransom.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
But when they learned Spanish plane to.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
Kill at the hoofa, at hoofa anyway, they hit their
remaining treasure.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Now here's my question. What are you going to do?

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Was seventeen by twelve by eight of twenty four care
gold because somewhere that's laying around. So there's still a
room of gold hiding around, all right. They also think
it's in the Ecuadorian mountains and uh, the Young Natsutain,

(01:24:04):
the Young Anati Mountains, and they actually think that there
is a group of individuals that help conceal this gold.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Okay, hold that thought right there. We're going to break
into the bottom of the hour. The Christian McCloud experience
continues on spaced Out Radio right after this. Stay tuned, everybody.

Speaker 11 (01:24:35):
You're listening space Out with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
All Right, we're clear.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
How's it going? Is it all right?

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
You're doing great. I love your tangents, Just love it
when you go off on a tangent.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
The tangents gotta have that gold. Mm hmmm, David. Honestly,
it's a gold fever. It never goes away.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
I'm supposed to ask you something here ahead, Uh, what
is the Order of the Eastern Star.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
That's the women's version of the massana As Massan Temple.
They're the female Freemasons.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Yes, I have one of them messaging me right now.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Okay, they're good people. They're actually considered the historians of
the craft.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
She says. Okay, So if the Masons are not the
evil ones, is it their sister organization.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
I've dave, I've never run into anyone evil, and I
would you know me, I would tell you my experience
with the Freemasons are they were the nicest, most religious
people on the planet. You know, I'm also a Knight
of Columbus, and I'm telling you right now they're very

(01:26:15):
much alike. It's I don't understand where all this stuff
comes from, like the Masonic, this Masonic that there's I
have never seen anything in my eighteen well almost seventeen
years of the Mason where anything was you don't even
talk negative about people. I mean, it's it's never ever

(01:26:37):
been an issue for me. Now where these conspiracies come from,
I dude, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
When all these people start talking about a Freemasons, is
Freemasons that they're unly Illuminati and it's luciferian. I have
never seen that ever, and I would tell you I
would have left if I saw some satanic come out
of there. You know I feel about that stuff, and
I just I've never seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
And now whether it exists or not, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
I just i'd like to think that all the things
I've all the wonderful people I've met through that organization,
there's just no way.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
I don't believe it. I just I just don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Jeremy Jones, how you doing, Babylon Rose, Nice to see you,
Tim Mothman, do us a favor and give your go
to your tud before us. We'd appreciate it. Please report
on it after m let's see. Oh there, thank you? Ever,

(01:28:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Well, m M something.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Jeremy Jones getting sick of the wildfire smoke coming into
Maine from Canada. Dave, Hey, that's terra free fire smoke.
So you're lucky you're getting that.

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Hey, what part of main is he from?

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Ask him?

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Well, you had just asked him he can hear you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Oh okay, what part of manium from.

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Cowley dun d loves his spaced out radio. There we
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Shout out to Waterborough over the a half. Mmm, I
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on the T shirts.

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Dirty, are you listening or did you? Did you back
out already? You know you're still listening. We want to
he can hear you, Dirty?

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Can you hi?

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Sandra?

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Come on man, Dirty hook me up?

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Hi, Sandra.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
No, I want Dirty Filth to do a picture of
my We'll put that on the T shirt.

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you for coming at us. I think we're at number
six now on the top ten most stolen items.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
Well, thank you again for having us.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
Before we leave the Lost inc of Gold, I just
want to say that there is actually kind of a
cool thing Towards the end of the article when they're
talking about the research, they've actually had six thousand interconnected
platforms in Ecuador dating back two thousand years that they
think might be a hiding.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Spot for this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
About that six thousand possible locations for this thing in
one country. And the cool thing is is they tell
you the search continues, but the mountains guide their golden
secret jealously. Now I don't know about you, but I
don't know if I'm going to take that expedition.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
I my pats on that one you're talking about. First word,
you're going to go to Ecuador.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
You got six thousand possible places to hide hidden in
the end, and then.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
You know they got snakes there. Right, I'm out. Don't
deal with snakes man not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
No, no need faeshing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
No, there's absolutely no real there's no need for it,
and I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
Don't want anything to do it, all right. Next one
we're looking at here is the bell of Papers encryptied fortune.
How are you familiar with this?

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
I am?

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
At eighteen eighty five, a pamphlet in pier in Virginia
describing three coded messages allegedly left by a man named Thomas.
According to Starry, Bell and his associates discovered gold and
silver while mining in Colorado. They buried their treasure worth
millions and Bedford County, Virginia sometimes in the eighteen twenties.
And if you discover the three ciphers, you get the

(01:33:16):
location of the treasure. Now, khotographers and treasure have spent
decades on this thing. And I'm going to tell you something.
I'm not proud of this. I attempted looking.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Into this thing. I'm not going to tell you how
much money spent on this day, like actually going there,
doing some research, studying, paying people off. I got nowhere
with it, absolutely nowhere. But this is one of these
things where it says the cryptographer says that the Declaration

(01:33:47):
of Independence is the key to the cipher.

Speaker 7 (01:33:50):
Well, they think it could be a book code.

Speaker 6 (01:33:52):
So it may be the Declaration of Independence and maybe
some book from the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 7 (01:33:59):
But they think that it could be a book code.
But they're not sure.

Speaker 6 (01:34:02):
I mean they're not even sure that it is.

Speaker 7 (01:34:04):
A book cod.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
I think it's a scam. You know why, because you
used to have to buy the pamphlet you had to
buy the pamphlet to solve the treasure.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
So, Dave, here's an idea for money. All right, let's
just say Space do radio fans, I'm going to bury
a treasure worth. Oh I don't know. I will bury
my call you Streemsky rookie card that I'm looking at
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
All right, there is is glory. All right. I will
bury that card and I will leave clues. But they
have to send five ninety nine to Space that radio
to get the clues. And care of Dave, you want
to do something like that, I'll do it tomorrow, Dave,
I'll make it happen. You just let me know, don't

(01:34:52):
you dis Carl.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
I said that might be worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
That's worth that's Carl Man I have. But I have
an autographed mug, an autograph beer mug from nineteen seventy
seven American League champions from him. That's in. I might
throw that in for you too, but that would have
to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
I'm a Yankee fan, so well, you're what you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Don't even have a baseball team.

Speaker 7 (01:35:18):
We're very treasure trusure.

Speaker 4 (01:35:20):
You have like the West Side Penguins, that's your baseball team?

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
Whatever, whatever, whatever, will continue on it. We got we
got a lot to do yet.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Okay. Uh, just one of the only three ciphers have
been solved.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
So out of all since eighteen thirty, only one of
these ciphers has been solved.

Speaker 7 (01:35:42):
The hope now is that AI is going to solve them.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
Yeah, everyone, uh yeah, Now see here's the thing AI.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
Have you ever used anything with AI?

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
I use chat GBT quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Okay, AI is fascinating.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
I actually, uh, most people wouldn't believe this, but I
actually have an advanced master's degree in education and one
of my thinking and one of the things in my
thesis I've had to write several thess is, but I
actually rewrote one of my thesis is with AI, same topic.

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
And I'm not going to lie to you. It was
ten times better than mine. I mean, that's that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
I think I'm a pretty good writer. I can't compete.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Oh yeah, I didn't publish anything. I was just curious.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
But it is still to me, that's a hell of
a way to do something because it's very rarely wrong.
All right, So, well, how much time we have because
I want to spend some time on this last one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
We got seventeen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
All right, guys, play time. All right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
My favorite, absolute favorite lost treasure of anything on the
planet is the Lost Arc of the Covenant.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Now, what do we know about the Lost Arc? Do
you believe we have law? Do you believe in law
of Dark?

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
Okay, I believe it is still out there. I do know.
Now most people don't realize this raid's a lot of
s dark.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Indiana Jones is actually based on a guy from Toledo,
Ohio who went out looking for treasures for the Libby's family.
Now the Libby family might sound familiar because you ever
heard like Libby's vegetables, livy can green beans, things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Libby's. They actually were incredibly kind people and.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
They were very much in antiquities and when World War two,
prior World War two starting, they were very concerned about
Hitler going around getting.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
All these artifacts. So they actually paid the guy, an archaeologist,
to go around and grab stuff before Hitler.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
That is actually all true. Most people don't realize that.
To this day, people say his name was doctor Smith.
I don't know that. I have actually been to the
museum and they do not name him, but it might've
actually been doctor his man might have been doctor Smith,
we don't know, but he actually did go around and
get a bunch of artifacts before the Nazis did. Now,

(01:38:05):
the cool thing about the lost Arc is one it
is the lost ark. I mean, who would want the
original Ten Commandments? All right, piece of that action. But
here's the other thing. I don't know, but the religious
part of me wants to believe that it really is

(01:38:26):
touched by divinity and normal people shouldn't go near it.
So part of the legend of this thing is somewhere
in the ancient hills of Ethiopia, or very deep beneath
the Jerusalem's Temple mount has the most sacred object of
human history, the Arc of the Covenant, which literally contains
the Ten Commandments, vanished after the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem

(01:38:46):
at five to eighty seven BCE. Now I love it
because PC. Of course, that means before Common Era. I'm
old school. BC used to be before Christ, so I
still call it BC. It remains hidden today and our.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Lady well allegedly and our only church of maryon Zion
and Oscom according to Ethiopian tradition.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
Now have you ever heard anything about this? This Ethiodopian.
This church, No, this church is fascinating. The way it's built.
It's built basically, it's like dug underground and you have
to across a moat to get to it. And the people,

(01:39:29):
the high priests, they're the ones that the one is
allowed to go in the room with.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
The guard on the highest priest guard and they all
develop major cataracts. And one of.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
The issues of looking at something that could be radioactive
is a cataracts.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
It's fascinating because this has been going on for centuries.
And they have the Ethiopian Bible. Are you familiar with that?

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
No, I'm not. This is all education to me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
The Ethiopian Bible is fascinating because it contains i mean
ten twenty more books in the Bible, and it explains
a bunch more stuff, but it also gives different uh,
descriptions of things that have happened and what the art
was actually used for and how it's actually going to
be used again. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
And it's actually in their Bible. And when you go
start doing some real investigation into this stuff, they're convinced.
The people in Ethiopia convinced that's They're like, oh, well,
now that's a movie. It's fine, but we have it.
That's where it is right here. Uh, here's my question.
Why would you want that kind of power? What what

(01:40:39):
are you going to do with that?

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
Control?

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
But now you're dealing Okay, but see, you can't control
the divine.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
You're gonna tell God what you're gonna do. How does
that work?

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Well? Not everybody has been straight up in their religious prospects.
Shall we say?

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:40:59):
I mean historically the army that carries the arc before
it is invincible.

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
Yeah, But my point is this. It's okright, it's twenty
twenty five, all right. Raiders takes place in one nineteen thirties. Okay,
so it's almost now. It's the thirties, so it's almost
one hundred years old, right, Okay, I get that. But
it'd be the same thing today if we went out
looking for the lost Arc and we actually find it,

(01:41:26):
What the hell are we going to do with that?

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
I know what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
I'm calling Father David and I'm gonna have him called
Pope Leo. I'm gonna say, hey, I got the Arc here.
Where do you want it?

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Needs?

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
It needs to be because you can't what do you
what are you gonna do just let common people have
the ark of the couple. I'm gonna leave it here
with the Yeah, oh what's that. Oh that's the arc
of the Covenant.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Don't mind that.

Speaker 7 (01:41:52):
They handle it as well as a Nazis.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Get your drink coffee Ark of the Covenant. Yeah, it's
not a coffee table. Get your feet off of that.
I mean, what, Dave, what would you do with that?

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Oh? I don't know. I mean, I'd probably use it
as a as a nice little wall piece, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:42:13):
I'm a Christmas card?

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
Can you even photograph it? I mean it's you know,
you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:42:17):
A holy relic and radioactive at that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Well, it's got power, I mean you know, I mean
it's it's got that reason basically, you know, box lightning.
I mean we didn't we can't even imagine what kind
of when you look at the shrouded for and how
much how many volts did it take? Yeah, it's like
twelve billion volts image on it, Like twelve billion.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
Volts just to put the shrouded Terren's image in there
the way it is.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
And that's just that's just the art that per second.
I mean, you know, what what's the art gut going
for it? I mean my point is, what kind of
power is that? I mean is it? I mean, honestly,
I think I don't think humans can even go near it.
I don't think we're I it's some strictly for the
demonic thing handle. I mean that scene in Raiders where
they're opening it up and our faces melt.

Speaker 7 (01:43:06):
You remember that, pretty accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
Dave, when their faces melt and Raiders lost ark.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Absolutely, I'm willing to bet.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
That's probably what's gonna happen. I mean, you can't. You
can't mess with stuff like that. It just doesn't work.
It's not uh, it's not something conducive.

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
To regular humans. So would I find it, what would
I do with it? I'd give it to the I'd
give it to the Vatican.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Where would you put it?

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
I'd probably give it to the Vatican as well, or well.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
The Vatican's only place I know where they could you know,
they keep it safe.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
I mean I don't what are they going to do
with it? You know, they've got all the relics.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Well, you know the problem is if it goes to
the Vatican, you know, I think the Vatican is a
complete conspiracy theory. Nonetheless, with what they are hiding from
religious artifacts that could prove a lot of things. And
you look at the Vatican. They will not even admit
to the fact that that the the shroud of Turin

(01:44:07):
is that of Jesus Christ. They will not admit to
that at all. And yet they own it, and yet
they won't admit it. Many scientists have looked into that,
and I believe they did an AI test on it
that that pretty much confirm that it is what we
think it is.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Well, they say it is the face of Christ. They said, yeah,
this is the base, but they can't figure out how.
I mean, it's basically the amount of power would take
the X ray a face onto, you know. But it
coincides with the resurrection, yes, because you know they talk
about the bright leg.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
I mean, I'm not trying to get religious, but I
mean the whole thing, it all, it all to me,
that all washes that's just me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
It's true.

Speaker 6 (01:44:49):
Nobody knows for sure whether they have the sphere of
destiny or not.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
So I don't know what I would do with it.
To be blunt, I.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
Can't even because honestly, I would just I throw in
the back of the super ru all right, I would
I would put on some paparatti, do some thinking, maybe
go to dairy queen, get an ice cream, and then
you know, try to google the Pope. Hey, Pope, I

(01:45:19):
got this thing. You might want what says you meet
me here? I don't know how that would work out.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
But you know I wouldn't want anything for I. Actually
I'd be like, look, I'm gonna give this you, but
I want I want full access to the Vatican Archives.

Speaker 7 (01:45:33):
That would be worth Would that be worth it?

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Imagine?

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Can you imagine doing a space out radio live from
the Vatican Archives kind of cool that you know?

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
That would be cool, Dave, that'd be high rated show.
Let's be honest, because we'd have to advertise the hell
out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:52):
That's live, Dave Scott here in the Vatican Archives, I.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Am. I am literally reading everything, all.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
Right, So we all do that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
We got on all right, We got the knights Templar's
vantaged fortune.

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
Now this this is one of my favorite stories. Of course,
we all know what happened in thirteen on seven. King
Philip uh and the Pope said the Knight's templar were
no longer necessary and Uh this is where Friday the
thirteenth comes in and play and all Knights Templar were
put to death at midnight. At midnight and they had

(01:46:36):
basically a twelve hour notification and the next morning they
wake up in the entire fleet.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
Of uh the the uh the apression. Everyone everyone is gone.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
Some people think they went to Scotland, and some people
think they took their treasure and they went to Newfoundland.
And that's where you have that TV show I'm sorry
Nova Scotia. Uh and and that show Treasure or not
whatever that that treasure on a coo is still on.
Those things always made me laugh because you know when
you have a show that's been on for eight years

(01:47:12):
and it's called the Money Pit and you're supposed to,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
Find gold, but yet all you do is spend anything.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
And I think, no, they did find one gold coin
once one was no.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
I don't know. I think it's probably playing.

Speaker 12 (01:47:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
But a lead discover is Smith cove tested possible from
material from Southern fans, stating back to the thirteen fourteen hundreds,
supporting the theory the Knights Templar may have been on
this island. I personally think that the Knights Stempler went
to Scotland and this is where you get roseland Chapel.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
All right, but that's just me. Uh, what do you
think happened to the Knights Templar? You think you became pirates?

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
I mean what else are they gonna do? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
I mean yeah, I might as well, but I mean
piracy gotta make some money.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
The other thing that's very interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:48:06):
With the course of the Knights Templar is, uh, they
think the Knights Templar actually made it to America. Now
what's interesting about this is Rosslyn's Chapel goes and of
course it's one of the possible resting places for the
Knights Templer. But centuries later, Uh, do you know who

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marries into that family? The Sinclair's, the people that are
rounds in chapel.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
Dave, here's a good look trivia for you. No.

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
Yeah, gentleman named Christopher Columbus marriage into that family, and
all of a sudden he gets a map. Where do
you think that map takes him to?

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
Probably now he gets it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
It's it's in a map to America. But he's given
this to his wife's family gives him to this. Now,
does anyone ever discuss the fact that he's married into
the basically the Kyights Templar. You know, you never hear this.
So I think this is the birth of one of
the biggest conspiracies that has yet to go and be

(01:49:19):
properly investigated to this day. So you've got a guy,
Christopher Columbus. He comes up with us saying, Hey, I
know how to get to the New World.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
We're just going to keep going west at ri east
excuse me, And all of a sudden, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
I'm looking at map right now. You look at the Bahamas.
The Bahamas is what seventy eighty miles from Florida, Ye,
all right? And then Florida's the tip of the South,
and then both them, you've got the cotton in the
United States. So how does that happen? I don't believe
in coincidence.

Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
I think I think there were some other things that
took place, and I think the Knights Templar had been
here prior and they had a map. I actually think
they're around Maine, because that would make sense because Scotia
is up there.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
But you have to understand too, Maine and you know,
the kind of the United States we're talking nine to
sixty AD. That's when like leif Ericson, leif Ericson gets
there and you know his mandate, he's trying to spread
to Christianity. So that's also where we have one of
the first big Foot encounters of the modern areas with

(01:50:22):
the Vikings in nine sixty eight. That's it main in
Nova Scotia.

Speaker 4 (01:50:25):
So it's a very very interesting topic when you start
thinking about it because there's so much to look at.
But I would totally would not be surprised if the
knights Templar treasure has yet to be discovered in North America.
But it would also not surprise me is if it
had been discovered around seventeen seventy six and was used

(01:50:47):
to finance the American Revolution.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
Is that would also makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Three and a half minutes to go. You got a
quick update on dB Cooper.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
Cooper, Yes, we do. And you know what's fashion about
dB Cooper? You know I always have been fascinated about him. David,
he got away with it. Yes, two hundred thousand dollars
he parachutes out of the back of d C was
a DC three.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
He para shoots out of the back of DC three
in inclement weather.

Speaker 4 (01:51:21):
With all that cash strapped to him, and all they find, honestly,
are bits and pieces of a parachute that may or
may not have been his, and what five thousand dollars
in total? And that was, you know what, twenty years later?

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
You know? So I think he got away with it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
I think he's an American folk hero, whether or not
they ever you know, the free I actually closed the
case on him.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
I don't know if you were familiar with that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Yes he did.

Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
They closed the case on him. But to me, I
think that's kind of a waste because we still don't know.
Having all that money, I mean two hundred thousand dollars
back then, it's a lot of money. Now, I personally
think that guy had to have been military trained to
make that jump.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
Have you ever seen how he did that?

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
Yeah, he put in the back of the jet. It
had a ladder going down and the plane could fly
at a certain speed with that ladder going down without
affecting the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
And he told them what to do.

Speaker 4 (01:52:19):
I mean, he told him exactly what to fly with
speed to get and boom that he jumps.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
I gotta take it, man. I think he made it.
I don't know where he ended up.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
I know there's a lot of people that think he
ended up buying a place or you know, living somewhere
under an assumed name. But you know, the guy they
actually thought was Dbe Cooper, he died in northern California
recently this month. He was actually ninety four, and that
was the people that the fence thought was dB Cooper.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
But yeah, he had.

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
Thirty six hostages on Northwest Orient flight three oh five.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
He got two hundred grand.

Speaker 4 (01:53:00):
They parachuted with the money and.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
He just disappeared in the history.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
Now here's my thing when you start looking at like
these images. The guy they actually thought was dB Cooper
was a California native. He served in the Marines from
World War Two and later worked as a technical editor
on Boeing based in Seattle. Now what's interesting about this
is they've got a picture dB Cooper, and they've got
a picture this guy, and for some reason they will

(01:53:27):
not list his name. They just they preferred to him
as Cooper, and the pictures are identical.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
I mean, it's it's you know how they had that
drawn to him with sunglasses that everyone saw that the
composite when you see the guy's real picture.

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
I mean he looks a hundred percent. I mean it's
it's very hard to distinguish him.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
But he they think his actual name was a guy
from Phoenix as a entrepreneur, Eric Ullis, and he spent
the time and money trying to figure out D. D. B.

Speaker 4 (01:54:02):
Cooper's identity in the end, and a guy named Ellis
was certain that a gentleman I'm sorry, the guy named
Patterson uh is who they're looking at. This guy named
Patterson Uh. They were convinced he was dB Cooper, but
it was never ever ever proven. And it's just one
of these things where it just makes you wanna. I

(01:54:23):
don't know about you, but I just want to I
want to like the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
My friend, It is time for me to cut you
off and say good night. Christian mccleoud. Experience will be
back next month on spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 11 (01:54:35):
You're listening just spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
Great job, buddy for an intro. It'll be better when
we have you on camera because then I can signal
you to wrap it up.

Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
No, it's no problem, Like you said, well, I'm actually
I'm gonna actually order that computer right now. We were
just putting it in a bin for a little while.
I figure we get more time at the laptop. But
that I still can't believe that happened.

Speaker 7 (01:55:14):
Yeah, we're not gonna try to do that again. We'll
get the.

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
Computer rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Rock and roll.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Designed specifically for this guy. Thing like it's got the seven.

Speaker 6 (01:55:24):
Yeah, it's got an I Core seven and Chip seven
plus a really great video car future.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
All right, my friends, you guys get some sleep, unless
you want to, unless you guys want to hang out
with Unless you guys want to hang out with Robin next.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Yeah, we'll hang out. Well, all right, I hope that
went well. Man, I'm you know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
You're amazing. Okay, I'll be back in a couple of minutes. Okay,
all right, all right, stick around.

Speaker 12 (01:55:56):
You're right back, US, USA, USA, USA, USUS.

Speaker 9 (02:00:35):
M.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
All right, you know, thirty eight seconds, let's say hi
to Robin. Hi, Robin, Christian McLeod's sticking around for our segment. Yes, awesome, Yes,
all right, guys, I'm gonna mute you both and we're
gonna go to swamp here. It's about three about three

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and a half minutes, okay, and we'll get things going here.
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Speaker 13 (02:02:27):
Hello and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp. I'm Swamp dweller,
and tonight, I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends, and nightmares.
Welcome to the spaced out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 8 (02:02:45):
About ten years ago, I was a heavy drug user
living in a medium sized city with a very high
crime rate in Alabama. I was staying with some fellow
users in a rundown CD apartment in the ghetto next
to a halfway house. I'm also not some great big guy.
I'm five six and weigh one hundred and forty pounds now,
and back then when this happened, I was barely breaking

(02:03:07):
one hundred pounds. Anyways, it was around three or four
am one night when I ran out of cigarettes. There
was a twenty four hour convenience store a couple of
miles away from where we were staying, and I didn't
have a ride at the time, so I figured I
would just walk. I had gotten maybe a little over
a quarter of a mile from the apartment when I

(02:03:28):
heard a car creeping up behind me. I kept on walking,
waiting for it to pass, but I kind of just
idled slowly behind me. Now, as I said earlier, I
wasn't in a very good life situation at the time,
and had either had dope or paraphernilia on me, so
I was paranoid that at any second I would see
blue lights or hear a siren and I would be busted. Finally,

(02:03:50):
my curiosity got the best of me. I glanced around
and saw that it was not a cop but an
older model Oldsmobile cutlass. Alarm started going off my head,
and I found myself suddenly wishing it were a cop.
I started walking faster, and the car pulled up beside me.
I looked over and saw the passenger side window was down,
and there looked to be two.

Speaker 3 (02:04:11):
Cracked out looking.

Speaker 8 (02:04:12):
Guys, probably in their late thirties or early forties, just
kind of watching me. I was just about to take off,
running through someone's yard when I looked over and saw
a flash coming from the passenger side window. At first
I thought I had gotten shot, but then it occurred
to me that it was the flash of a camera.
Before I could process what had just happened. To my relief,

(02:04:32):
that car took off. My comfort was short lived, though,
a little way.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
Up the road, I saw that car.

Speaker 8 (02:04:38):
I pulled up into a parking lot and parked facing me.
I stopped in my tracks, looking at it and trying
to decide what my next move should be, when I
saw the car start to back out and head in
my direction. Across the road to my left, there was
a cemetery surrounded by a wrought iron fence, which I
first attempted to climb, but I couldn't make it over

(02:04:58):
the sharp points at the top, so I jumped back
down and ran across the road to an old, abandoned
field that used to be the local fair ground. I
had turned a corner before I jumped the chainling fence
to get into the field. Unfortunately, the guy in the
car didn't see which direction I went. I hunkered down
in some tall grass and lay flat of my stomach
for what seemed like forever but was probably around a

(02:05:21):
half an hour, just watching the car creep up and
down the road. Eventually, I quit seeing the car, and
I assumed they had given up on me, so I
got up and dusted myself off and called a friend
to come pick me up. No way in hell was
I going to risk running into them again. So my
friend showed up and gave me a ride to the store,
and on the way back, right past where the first

(02:05:43):
car got behind me. I looked down this old driveway
to an abandoned house, and sure enough, there was the Oldsmobile,
just ominously sitting there. I never ran into those guys
or saw that car again, but then again, I never
really walked around after dark in that neighborhood. Again, I've
racked my brain trying to figure out what their intention
was and why they would take my picture, but I've

(02:06:06):
never quite figured it out. If they hadn't been so
cracked out looking, I would have considered they were just
concerned citizens looking out for the neighborhood, since I too
was extremely cracked out looking, But they were way too
menacing for that to be the case.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
And if it was, why.

Speaker 8 (02:06:21):
Didn't they just call the cops. I'm also curious to
see that photo, just as a reminder of how far
down the gutter I was at the time, but not
curious enough to see those guys out anyways, Thank you
for sharing my story.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
Thank you to swamp Dweller for another spooky, crazy story.
If you want more just like that, head on over
to YouTube. Type in swamp Dweller ring the Bell, hit subscribe,
and you got thousands of stories just like that. For free.
It's time for Robin. Each and every week we are

(02:07:18):
joined by the lovely and talented Robin Haynes, hanging out
with us here on spaced out Radio. Robin, how are you,
my dear.

Speaker 5 (02:07:26):
I'm great, always happy to be here. And Christian's here too.

Speaker 9 (02:07:30):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:07:31):
It's not just me and Christina's here too.

Speaker 7 (02:07:33):
Hi.

Speaker 9 (02:07:35):
Hey, girl, may have talked to you forever. You gotta call me, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
So, Robin, we went back to Flight twenty one this
past weekend and we made a major boo boo. We
forgot to call you back at the end of the night.

Speaker 9 (02:07:53):
And you know, I am.

Speaker 5 (02:07:56):
I asked a sad squatch about you, and they said
that you weren't there.

Speaker 1 (02:08:02):
Oh, we were there. I think that they were hiding though,
I do, And let me tell you why. When we
first got there, we we were able to dodge the
back end of a thunder and lightning cell and so
we got our filming in the energy wasn't quite what

(02:08:24):
I thought it would be, m h. And then we
got hit with another massive lightning cell and I placed
a video on our YouTube because we literally got thunderstruck.
We Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 3 (02:08:41):
Yeah, video was awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
Yeah, it was really awesome, and.

Speaker 3 (02:08:45):
I forwarded, I put it on. I got a bunch
of bunch of people like that on my U on X.

Speaker 1 (02:08:52):
Yeah. We we we found where it hit, and it
hit right along the trail on the exit. And how
we know this is there was a tree that had
fallen across and I had to Now, I mean the
tree wasn't big, it was only about you know, three
four inches around, but I had to drive over it

(02:09:12):
in order to get out, and it was at bumper height,
so you know, the jeep had to pay its price
in order to get us out, which it did, thank you,
and I love my jeep for it.

Speaker 5 (02:09:24):
But oh they packed up, they got back because when
I said where were you that you were supposed to
be out there with them, and they said, he's not
where we are.

Speaker 1 (02:09:34):
Yeah, that would make sense, That would totally make sense.
We did try to find the tree that was used
for the power knocking on the wood knocking the week before,
and just like you called it, we couldn't find it.
We could not find any club that went along with it.

(02:09:57):
Now that doesn't mean that we weren't there. We found
the area. The area was easy to find. The problem is,
out of about the thirty trees that are standing and
fallen in that area, we could not find anything that
showed any type of marking on the on the on

(02:10:21):
the tree. We couldn't find it.

Speaker 5 (02:10:26):
Well, I'm not going to say that this is what
they did, but what I will tell you is they
can make noises that sounds like you are taking a
baseball bat and whacking it on a tree and not
actually hit a tree. They will take their hands and
cup them and make these enormous slaps with them like

(02:10:46):
you can't even imagine that they could make that big
of a booming noise with it, and they can. I've
heard them, and I think what you heard was probably
too big for this, but I've heard them do that
on the side of their face if they curve their
mouth a certain way. I actually heard it when they
would take and cup their hands onto their.

Speaker 9 (02:11:06):
Chest, so you know, as big as what you heard,
I would imagine it with the tree.

Speaker 5 (02:11:13):
But I'm just saying that they are capable of making
it other ways as well, well, and they could have
taken whatever they hit it with the way with them too.

Speaker 1 (02:11:24):
We're going to continue with that experiment when we go
back this weekend and it's going to be very It
is going to be very interesting in regards to how
we could do it. We're going to try and set
up a laser beam from where base camp is to
see because we know where the noise was, but we

(02:11:46):
want to set up a laser beam see if we
could get it through the trees to maybe try and
find the vicinity of where the sound came from. And
if we're able to do that, then we will have
a better projection of where that came from. Now, hopefully
we don't have any thunder and lightning storms that are

(02:12:07):
going to push us out of the area earlier than expected.
But the good news is our First Nation's cree friend, Lollie,
will be coming back with us this weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:12:22):
Oh nice, Now this storm that you had, okay, was
it like a normal storm or was it a little
bit more intense and come out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (02:12:32):
During the summertime, we get these weird weather patterns, and
what it is is it'll be sunny and dry during
the day or sunny clouds and warm during the day,
and then usually around dinner time, these lightning cells flow
in and.

Speaker 5 (02:12:56):
Should the energy change at all when it came in.

Speaker 9 (02:13:00):
Yeah, I mean I'm leading up to something. That's why
I'm asking you that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:04):
You couldn't feel anything, okay.

Speaker 5 (02:13:10):
And I'm not saying this is what happened. But the
area that you go in, we already know. You get
everything there. You get all different cryptigs, you've got spirits there,
you've got ET's there, all that stuff. The reason I
asked if it changed as far as the energy there
is the ets will use storms to come in because

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they are not as noticed in the storms, and it's
not uncommon to end up having ships and various et
things around during the storm because they'll use that as
a cover.

Speaker 1 (02:13:46):
Right, rightwell happened during the storm.

Speaker 3 (02:13:52):
I'm sorry, I just to throw that in there. I
totally believe that.

Speaker 5 (02:13:55):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, we'd get here that one.

Speaker 9 (02:14:00):
Dave, you've seen it, and Christian you've seen it.

Speaker 5 (02:14:03):
I think Christina saw it too, that my son in
law took care that was taken right after a severe storm.
We get every time we get a bad storm here.
I would say for every ten serious storms that we
get here, seven.

Speaker 9 (02:14:18):
Of them there's a UFO afterwards.

Speaker 5 (02:14:21):
And it's not I mean, sometimes they create those storms
to come in as a cover, but also if there's
already a storm that's in the area, they use them
as a cover.

Speaker 9 (02:14:30):
I had that issue.

Speaker 5 (02:14:31):
I was coming back from West Virginia a couple of
weeks ago, and every beautiful weather coming back got through
North Carolina no problem. I hit South Carolina and it
was like this most bizarre thing I've ever seen, even
the cloud formations, and immediately after I got out of it,
you could see a UFO And you have so many

(02:14:53):
crazy things that go on over in that area, Dave.

Speaker 9 (02:14:55):
That's why I was curious trying.

Speaker 1 (02:14:58):
To get Christian McCloud up here in order to actually
investigate this place with me.

Speaker 7 (02:15:05):
Oh, and we want to come up so bad.

Speaker 3 (02:15:07):
Listen, all you have to do is get the first
class tickets.

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:15:12):
I require.

Speaker 5 (02:15:16):
They don't forget the peanut butter em and MS or
he won't go peanut butter eminem That's all I need.

Speaker 1 (02:15:20):
I'm there. Whatever you need.

Speaker 9 (02:15:22):
No in Mexican food be real.

Speaker 3 (02:15:24):
Oh come on, I was gonna tell everyone that Rob
we were. We were in spruce not where we when
I was dropping off my stereo. We were Spruce Pine,
and I remember that restaurant that we went to. Yeah,
that place is still open, Oh my god. Where they
couldn't get your order right?

Speaker 4 (02:15:45):
This poor six times, Dave and the guy just it
was the simplest thing.

Speaker 9 (02:15:51):
It was so bad. All I wanted on it was
meat and lettuce. It was a taco saled meat and lettuce.
That was it. And they couldn't do it six times.

Speaker 5 (02:16:00):
And then when I finally got it was so bad
I couldn't eat it.

Speaker 3 (02:16:05):
It was like the chicken so irradiated. You couldn't eat it.

Speaker 9 (02:16:09):
It was terrible. I couldn't believe that.

Speaker 5 (02:16:12):
I mean, it's like, just throw some meat in the
bottom of the of the shell and throw some lettuce
on it and.

Speaker 9 (02:16:17):
Leave it alone.

Speaker 3 (02:16:17):
Like that's all I want.

Speaker 9 (02:16:20):
Yeah, I'm the world's pickiest eater. I just like, thing's
a plane.

Speaker 4 (02:16:27):
Well that's still there there, then barbecue do it?

Speaker 3 (02:16:32):
Huh?

Speaker 9 (02:16:33):
Did you guys see in Spruce Pine weather at the
hotel was still there?

Speaker 3 (02:16:37):
It's I think it's gone. No, we didn't.

Speaker 7 (02:16:39):
We didn't drive over to look.

Speaker 9 (02:16:40):
I wish we.

Speaker 4 (02:16:41):
Had no, but I think it's gone. That whole place
has been closed down.

Speaker 1 (02:16:45):
All right, let's let's get back to the radio side
of things here.

Speaker 3 (02:16:49):
Sorry, buddy, you.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
Guys could talk off the air regarding this. I got
to read. I know, I know, and now I'm craving
Taco Bell.

Speaker 4 (02:16:58):
Thanks, guys, I'm going to get some of that sauce
and just drink it in front of you on there.

Speaker 1 (02:17:05):
I got some here, I got some of the Taco Bell.

Speaker 3 (02:17:09):
Myalls of it.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
I do. I do have Taco Bell hot sauce here,
but oh.

Speaker 7 (02:17:14):
I love that, So if I get that at the
grocery store.

Speaker 1 (02:17:17):
Robin, letz know.

Speaker 3 (02:17:18):
You guys don't understand Dave loves that stuff. You don't understand. Oh,
he craves.

Speaker 1 (02:17:23):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's it's it's silly.

Speaker 3 (02:17:25):
It really is kind of maybe worried excellently.

Speaker 1 (02:17:29):
Well, you didn't have to be in my hotel room
that night, so you were safe. You were safe. Robin.
I want to ask you just in regards to flight
twenty one, in regards to to the fall next week.
If the weather is good, the weather is normal, what
do you think we can expect there?

Speaker 9 (02:17:47):
I think you should have some good activity.

Speaker 5 (02:17:50):
I mean, they showed up last Saturday and the weather,
you know, took a turn and that kind of messed
everything up. But the spirit seemed to be really active
there right now. I think, especially if you're going to
have the drums there, you know, my advice would be,
don't crowd them. Have you guys, stand back maybe an

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extra ten to fifteen feet so that they seem to
want to come out more to you. It's always better
if you let them come to you. When you go
towards them, they automatically think it's a trap, So stand back.

Speaker 9 (02:18:23):
Maybe ten feet.

Speaker 5 (02:18:23):
I wouldn't go farther than that, and let them come
to you. They're going to come to the drums. They
love the drums, soft and steady.

Speaker 9 (02:18:31):
And I think you'll have a good activity.

Speaker 5 (02:18:33):
There seemed to have been quite a few that showed
up Saturday, because I remote viewed it before you guys
got there, when you had first called, and I had
remote viewed it prior to you calling, and there was
like I can't remember.

Speaker 9 (02:18:47):
What I told you.

Speaker 5 (02:18:48):
It was either three or four maybe five that were
there then, and then there were more that were coming in.
But then when I hit her back, I checked with
them to make sure everything was okay, and they said
that where they were at, you were not, so they
must have backed up with the weather. I still think
there was a couple of them that hung around, even
in the rain, just to see what you guys were

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up to.

Speaker 1 (02:19:12):
Well, the way it was raining and the way it
was the lightning was hitting, it doesn't surprise me that,
if anything, they got the heck out of Dodge, because
those lightning bullets that were coming down were pretty vicious.

Speaker 5 (02:19:27):
Well, I did see the video that you put on
YouTube of it, and there was actually one spot in
the video while it was thundering and lightning and raining
that had an energy signature in it.

Speaker 9 (02:19:42):
So I what I think it was.

Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
I thought it was a dog man, but you've got
that one that always comes up and he seems relatively friendly,
and it was right in the middle of it, and
then off to the the back and off to the
right there was a sasquatch signature. So I still think
you had those two. We're there, but I think most
of them headed up to the back. They seem to
go behind that area. I don't know what's back there,

(02:20:07):
if there's a lot of brush or whatever, but they
always seem to come up from that area.

Speaker 1 (02:20:11):
I want to ask you something, and Christian, I'm curious
to get your opinion on this as well. I'm pretty
positive that our forests here do not have skunks, and
yet we have areas of the forest where skunk, the

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smell of skunk will be there. Then it will disappear,
and we may walk away from an area and we
come back and that smell of skunk is now in
a spot. It's not around like a skunk's odor sticks around.
It's pungent, okay, and it'll stick around for a while,
but this is you know, it kind of disappears like

(02:20:53):
a fart in the wind part in my language here.
But Robin, just study of curiosity, what out there creates
a skunk smell that you know of well?

Speaker 9 (02:21:05):
And we talked about this. I think it was like
three or four shows to go.

Speaker 5 (02:21:08):
They can project any smell anything they want to.

Speaker 9 (02:21:12):
They can do it two different ways.

Speaker 5 (02:21:14):
They can project the actual smell or they can put
a projection into your mind so that your consciousness thinks
you are smelling it and it doesn't even have to
be there. And that's happened so many different times where
one person will smell something, the other person that's standing
right there is like, I don't smell anything, and then
you're going, oh my gosh, it's so you can smell

(02:21:35):
it so bad it's burning my eyes.

Speaker 9 (02:21:37):
So they have two ways they can do it.

Speaker 5 (02:21:39):
I've had them be out in the woods and my
ex husband was out there and he was supposedly deer hunting,
and he came and he's like, I'll I could smell
was coffee.

Speaker 9 (02:21:49):
Why did you bring me out coffee?

Speaker 5 (02:21:51):
And I'm like, I didn't at that point, I wouldn't
have walked across the street from levelone bring them coffee.
But he smelled coffee, fresh brewed coffee, and he said it.

Speaker 9 (02:21:59):
Was so's wrong with the smell. He couldn't believe it.

Speaker 5 (02:22:02):
But what they do is they can create through projection. Okay,
we already know they can project emotions, feeling, senses of
any kind, so they can project that smell. They can
do it as a defense mechanism. They can do it
just a mess with you. They can do it to
as a test for you. But they can also do

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it not only so that you smell it with your nose,
but they can do it through your subconscious because they
work through the consciousness, through the collective, so they can
tap into your consciousness and they can project that smell
through that so that your brain makes you think that
that is what you are smelling. The other option that
they have, the third one is like what Micah does
here is he literally catches skunks and then he rubs

(02:22:46):
it all over his body. But if you don't have
them there, then it has to be a projection, absolutely appristian.

Speaker 1 (02:22:53):
Have you ran into that, you know, in an area
where there are no skunks, but you're getting the odor
of skunk can And a lot of people have asked
whether or not it's skunk cabbage that we are smelling or.

Speaker 3 (02:23:06):
What have you? You know, And not not to be funny,
but like where I'm from in Maine, we do have
skunk cabbage.

Speaker 4 (02:23:13):
And there's the reason why it's called skunk cabbage because
he does it spells like skunks.

Speaker 1 (02:23:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:23:17):
You know, I grew up on an old, old farm
in Maine, and we did we had skunk problems. And
I don't think people understand how bad those things really smell.
But that is a particular scent that you're not going
to forget. I personally think that if you're having something
like that, I think maybe you know it's it could
be bigfoot, it could be you know, you know, I've

(02:23:39):
absolutely I've heard several people tell me straight up that
you know, they eat the same kind of you know,
they're opportunistic feeders, so they're they're incorceiferous vegetables.

Speaker 3 (02:23:49):
Maybe he had a couple.

Speaker 4 (02:23:50):
Of you know, uh, plants of you know, great of
their collars, you know, and he had some wind issues.

Speaker 3 (02:23:58):
You know, that's that's kind of what you run into.
But uh, you know, I don't. I don't go with
the the fact that they you know, they're not biological.

Speaker 4 (02:24:07):
I mean, if if Robin says they can do those
kinds of things nine times out of ten, she's you know,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:24:12):
I don't argue with her anymore. I've I've learned, but
they can probably do that. But I mean, honestly, the
other thing is this is, you know, you know these
things that you know they have to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (02:24:22):
Just like, uh, hold that thought. Hold that thought. Robin
Haynes The Q and A continuing with special guests Christop
McCloud right after this.

Speaker 11 (02:24:31):
This is based out radio and your votes, Nest.

Speaker 1 (02:24:56):
So it's funny you brought up the dog man thing.
I don't know if you watched our latest video, Robin.

Speaker 9 (02:25:03):
But we did the one from last weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:25:06):
Okay, so if you saw Lolli, you would hear her
say as we're walking down the trail that she has
the smell of wet dog. And I went no, And
then I go, no, no dogs here, we don't want
any dogs here.

Speaker 5 (02:25:24):
You have one that shows up and he seems to
come around quite a bit, and I've picked him up before,
but honestly, I haven't picked up any aggression with him
at all.

Speaker 9 (02:25:35):
I haven't. It's like I go to Georgia.

Speaker 5 (02:25:36):
There's a park in the upper part of Georgia that's
by the Tennessee border, and there's a bunch of them.
We have got best dog man pictures out of there. Literally,
I mean, just as clear as clear as a bell.
And those guys are just as sweet as can be.
I drive like two and a half hours. They'll get
hold of me and want me to come up there
and sit with them. And I'll drive the two and
a half hours up there to the park and just

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walk back out in the park and they always hang
out right around on this little miniature lake or pond.
And go back there and sit with them. And they're
good as gold. I mean, they're not all bad. But
when We have the one that his name is Micah,
and he come there every now and then and he
smells like a skunk.

Speaker 9 (02:26:14):
And it's really odd because you know, if a skunk is.

Speaker 5 (02:26:17):
There that smell lingers, when Mike is here, you can
smell it and it will literally burn your nose. And
I wouldn't got my dogs. Brought them all in thinking
they were gonna get sprayed. They didn't have a bit
of odor on them. And as soon as he leaves,
there's not one odor out there.

Speaker 9 (02:26:32):
There's nothing lingering. I mean, they can turn it on
and turn it off just like that.

Speaker 5 (02:26:38):
So I mean, I I'm sticking with the sasquatch theory.

Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
What is there urine smell like?

Speaker 9 (02:26:46):
It smell pretty strong.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
Is it skunky?

Speaker 3 (02:26:48):
Yeah, it's ammonia. It's not it's it's.

Speaker 1 (02:26:53):
Okay. At a house.

Speaker 3 (02:26:56):
Cat, it's worse, I mean, but you got.

Speaker 7 (02:27:01):
Yeah, it's different the cat.

Speaker 6 (02:27:04):
The cat's more of an objectionable pungent. It's not pleasant,
but it's not quite cat urine either.

Speaker 3 (02:27:12):
It's no.

Speaker 5 (02:27:13):
We had one going urinate on my son's tent. My
boys had pitched a tent right directly in the backyard.
This was years ago and my one son came in
and the other one stayed out in the tent, and
one of the sasquatch came up and was tapping on
the tent, and my son was wide awakened there, and
the sasquatch went and.

Speaker 9 (02:27:30):
Urinated on the corner of the tent.

Speaker 5 (02:27:33):
He said, it stunk so bad anytime that I've been
out in the woods and I you know where you
can smell it. The females aren't as bad as the males,
but the females will take and you know the arches
that you see, you know, they use those as a directional,
but they also when they use it as a directional
if a female is alone in advertising, so to speak,

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when they make it bow over with that tip of
the top of the tree comes down and it's anchored,
they'll urinate on that anchor and make it to advertise,
and then the males know where to go.

Speaker 3 (02:28:10):
Boy, yeah, you know people realize like until you run
into like bay. I know this sounds gross, but bigfoot
pee it's not like it's not like quan p It's
like it's it's almost like the consistency syrup. It's like thicker.
I don't know how they I.

Speaker 4 (02:28:29):
Guess their water hydration or their hydration limits are different
because it's it's different. It's like thicker, and it's it's
more biscus, you know, it's not like not like ours
is just like water.

Speaker 3 (02:28:39):
There's just a little thicker. It's like, I don't know
how to explain it. It's but it's nasty.

Speaker 5 (02:28:46):
Yeah, I mean I've only had a couple that were
not extremely strong. But again, if that particular one is
drinking more water, you know, or is more access to water,
it's going to dilute it a little bit.

Speaker 9 (02:28:58):
But they have a.

Speaker 3 (02:28:59):
Pretty But yeah, Christine's right. The pheromone levels are different though,
Oh yeah, I mean they're still using it as a marker.

Speaker 6 (02:29:07):
I mean, a female in season will be totally different
from from you know, a male displaying territorial stuff and whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:29:17):
I go peel on you.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
Later, you're sick of we have.

Speaker 5 (02:29:22):
We have one out of state that thinks it's funny
to come up close to you and fart and lasts
like crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:29:29):
Kumbo had one of those. He said it was terrible.
He was a kid.

Speaker 4 (02:29:32):
The thing they'd have their windows open in the summer
and it is now Alabama and you hear this massive
you know part, and he here giggling, and then the
thing would run away.

Speaker 9 (02:29:42):
Oh they think it's hysterical, laugh laugh like crazy.

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We got Robin Haynes in for her weekly Q and

(02:31:25):
A with us. Also joining us Christian McLoud in the
background from the Christian McLeod Experience. That's what we're calling
his new segment here. He named it, Robin, what do
you think?

Speaker 9 (02:31:38):
Awesome? I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:31:41):
We're going to start off with a question from Blue
Cruise here. Do the Sasquatch dogmen or other cryptids use
manifestations to bring something non existence into a reality for
whatever purpose? Or use Robin?

Speaker 5 (02:31:58):
Absolutely, Again, it goes through as soon as they get
through frequency up, they can go through the collective consciousness
and they can link into yours. It's all done through
the frequency as soon as that. In all reality, we
could do it as well, not at the strength they do,
but we can do it as well. It's all about
getting that energy and frequency up, hooking into consciousness, and

(02:32:19):
then you go from there, you manifest it in your mind,
go through the consciousness and you can do it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:25):
What do you think masters at it? I Uh, I've
never been asked that question.

Speaker 4 (02:32:31):
So I'm gonna just defer to Robin because that's again
that that's that's out of my realm of expertise.

Speaker 3 (02:32:37):
I wouldn't even begin to know how to answer that one.

Speaker 1 (02:32:41):
That's because you're a flesh and letter I am. You
are not into the WU.

Speaker 3 (02:32:50):
I'm not. I will say. Since since I've met Robin
and you and and I've bring you into my circle,
I've I've become less uh defensive of the book.

Speaker 9 (02:33:01):
Yeah, I pulled them in kicking and screaming. I just
want to put that out.

Speaker 12 (02:33:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:33:06):
Good reality sucks, it does.

Speaker 1 (02:33:12):
It can happen.

Speaker 3 (02:33:15):
Getting back anything can happen getting.

Speaker 1 (02:33:17):
Back to you know, some of the questions we get
from our listeners that I see when we do cryptid shows,
how do we know when we're in a cryptid area?

Speaker 3 (02:33:26):
Robin, again, we.

Speaker 5 (02:33:29):
Go back to the same thing, and I hate to
be repetitive, but it's the truth.

Speaker 9 (02:33:32):
Energies do not lie.

Speaker 5 (02:33:34):
Everything has an energy signature or a kleenex, a toothbrush,
a chair, and once you learn how to tap into
reading the energies which every.

Speaker 9 (02:33:42):
Human being can do.

Speaker 5 (02:33:44):
If I can do it, a trained ape can do it.
And you learn how to read those energies, you're going
to be able to go into an area. You're going
to be able to tell what kind of things are
out there, and you're going to be able to tell
if it's good or bad, or if it's neutral. And
trust me, the neutral stuff is worse. Neutral could go
either way and flip on a dime. At least when
you know when you're going into it, if it's good

(02:34:05):
or bad, you have an idea of what you're dealing with.
But it all has an energy signature, and you know,
we all can do it. This is what I teach
in my classes every day. We all can read it.
We've only been told that we can't. And because we
have it and bred into us that we can't do
these things, we automatically think that we cannot, when in fact,

(02:34:26):
we've always been able to do it.

Speaker 1 (02:34:31):
Appreciate what's your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (02:34:34):
You know, I got to be honest with you. I
always have a feeling, and I guess a good bottle
down to energy. But I have a feeling when we
run into a hotspot, and it's usually a lot more
negative when it's a cephal our dog man, but you
know in bigfoots around because you can feel it. So
I guess that would be you know, I guess I

(02:34:54):
would be.

Speaker 4 (02:34:54):
Agreeing with Robin that you can feel the energy because
it's a whole different it's a whole different ball game
because it's you the energy, the way you feel, the
way your sense and you're picking up.

Speaker 3 (02:35:06):
It's like all your base or instincts kind of kick in.

Speaker 4 (02:35:09):
It's like that reptop or your brain turns on and says, Okay,
there's something here that can either eat us, crush us,
or you know, enlighten us. So it's I kind of
have to agree with Robin on that you just you
kind of feel it, you you know, when something like
that's around.

Speaker 3 (02:35:24):
That's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (02:35:26):
A lot of people do not believe in intuition.

Speaker 4 (02:35:29):
Okay, I'm sorry, I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (02:35:33):
I don't know if that's in the WU, but I've
always trusted my gut, and.

Speaker 1 (02:35:38):
That's what I'm getting at. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at.
A lot of people don't know how to trust that
intuition because they may feel that, you know, it's not scientific,
or they just can't trust that that's sixth sense. Robin,
how do you tell people that when you're in that
type of scenario you need to trust that intuition. What's

(02:35:58):
a good example you could give.

Speaker 5 (02:36:01):
Well, this is how I explain it to all my
clients when we work on this. Okay, your body is
an energy reader or a meter. There is a disconnect
from the time your body reads the energy till it
goes to your brain, because it's going to go into
your body and your consciousness before it hits your brain,
and so there is that disconnecting lag time. So whatever

(02:36:23):
you feel, go with your gut reaction because that's the
truest feeling.

Speaker 9 (02:36:26):
When it goes into your brain, then.

Speaker 5 (02:36:28):
Your brain is trying to process it, and because of
what we've been pre programmed to believe, your brain is
trying to make excuses for everything. So when you first
get that first intuition, your body first gets that energy,
it's going to react immediately. That is the truest form
you will ever get. So that's what you want to
lean to. That's what you want to trust. You may

(02:36:48):
not understand it, and that's okay, because you will with time.

Speaker 9 (02:36:51):
It takes experience. It takes time to do it. But
what you feel is actually.

Speaker 5 (02:36:57):
The truest thing that you're ever going to get because
your brain is going to try to twist it intern it.

Speaker 9 (02:37:01):
It's just like when we talked about mind speak last week.

Speaker 5 (02:37:04):
People think they can't mind speak or that it's not
real because we've been programmed to believe that it's not. Okay,
So when you get into the brain, the brain is
a three D situation. Your energy reading is more fourth
and fifth dimension, and your consciousness is a higher frequency
as well. So that's why you always go with what
you feel first before your brain has a chance to

(02:37:24):
process it, and it does have a leg time before
your brain's going.

Speaker 9 (02:37:27):
To get to it.

Speaker 6 (02:37:29):
Robin, can I ask you something I have had this happen,
And I think what you're talking about is like a
visceral reaction when you're like your body react the way
your body reacts before your brain has a chance to
consciously process something. Okay, when I've been around and for
me it's mostly been dog Man, but when I've been
around them, I notice this kind of like conflicting energy

(02:37:54):
and it's like my body and my visceral reaction is
is a fight or flight kind of thing. I feel
the presence and my body wants to run, but something
in my brain, whether it's me or not, tells me
don't run. That would be a mistake. You need to
stay still. You need to pretend you don't see anything.

Speaker 9 (02:38:15):
Where you're coming from. You're well.

Speaker 5 (02:38:18):
Part of it is consciously, okay, because your consciousness and
your brain are two different things, and your consciousness is telling.

Speaker 9 (02:38:25):
You this is the safest place for you to be.
Don't run. You're going to start, you know, a.

Speaker 5 (02:38:29):
Predator thing, where your brain is denying it. Your brain
is always going to deny it because that's what you've
been taught to believe. It's been programmed into our brains.
So you're actually getting three different things there.

Speaker 9 (02:38:41):
Mm hmm. Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:38:43):
So your body, because that energy off the dogmen is
so completely different and foreign, that's what's automatically tensing you
up and making you think that you're.

Speaker 9 (02:38:51):
In danger even if you're not in danger.

Speaker 5 (02:38:56):
Okay, it's because it's so completely different than your energy.
It's going to make your body want to withdraw from
it because it's a different type of energy. And then
your consciousness is saying, okay, just stay there, stay calm.
You're okay, And meanwhile, your brain's going, okay, we're going
to go into complete deniability.

Speaker 9 (02:39:13):
This doesn't exist. You know, it's all on your head,
forget about it.

Speaker 5 (02:39:17):
And it's actually three things there that are conflicting.

Speaker 9 (02:39:19):
But when the conscious I think it's.

Speaker 6 (02:39:21):
Two things, there's actually three things that are that are
all arguing against each other.

Speaker 5 (02:39:26):
Correct, And your consciousness is saying, okay, yes, that's a
different energy. It's a dog man. But you know what
you're okay. I'm not telling you you need to take off.
You're okay, just stay put. And that's why you get
it the way you are.

Speaker 6 (02:39:40):
That's so wild, because even when I don't see anything,
that's how I know one is around is I feel
all of those things at once.

Speaker 5 (02:39:48):
Yeah, you've got three of them that are coming down
by you guys, But I'm not picking up any danger
with any of the three of them.

Speaker 6 (02:39:54):
Now, they we know that they could have done something
long ago if they want.

Speaker 4 (02:40:00):
They see the way we treat our dog hand or
and like, yeah, I think they see how much we
love him and dote on him.

Speaker 3 (02:40:06):
I figured they're gonna give us a patch. That's yeah,
I think, because like.

Speaker 4 (02:40:11):
I mean, there's never been a time where haven like
when he used to get scared or he pick up
on him. You know, he used to jump up in
my arms and I carry him like a football, and
you know, very protective of him.

Speaker 3 (02:40:21):
And Christina is the same way. So I think they
see us do that and.

Speaker 4 (02:40:24):
They're like, well, these guys can't be all that bad.

Speaker 9 (02:40:26):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:40:27):
I only had one that actually tried to do harm
with me.

Speaker 9 (02:40:31):
Normally I don't have any.

Speaker 5 (02:40:32):
Issues, but there was a situation in Louisiana and there
was an aggressive one there that were going after the Sasquatch.

Speaker 9 (02:40:38):
I dealt with the.

Speaker 5 (02:40:39):
Aggressive one and I left and I went from there
to Texas.

Speaker 9 (02:40:43):
And when I went to Texas, one.

Speaker 5 (02:40:46):
Of the ones in that pack followed me, and some
of the ones that are on my property in Texas
took him out because he showed up at my camper
and so they took care of I've never had another
problem with him again.

Speaker 9 (02:40:58):
I mean, I get along with him fairly.

Speaker 5 (02:41:00):
While I'm not saying there's not bad ones out there,
I you know, had to deal with it for other
people before.

Speaker 9 (02:41:04):
But I've been very fortunate.

Speaker 3 (02:41:09):
I don't know, I you know, I've been I've been
chased three times, and you know, I've told you all
about them, have been chased three times, and I think
two of them weren't too thrilled with me.

Speaker 4 (02:41:20):
But I don't think they would have hurt me. But
there was definitely that one time.

Speaker 3 (02:41:25):
Uh. I honestly, I was I was b lining it
as far as I could out of there, and I
thought that they're going to kill me.

Speaker 4 (02:41:33):
Yeah, you know, I think you're It's just like it's
like you told me earlier, you know, or like you've
always said.

Speaker 3 (02:41:41):
You know, they're just like us. There's good ones, are
bad ones, and there's people you know, they got bad
day to got good days. You know. I think I
think they're more like us than we give them credit for.
Oh yeah, i'd be an insult for them, but I
mean it's.

Speaker 1 (02:41:53):
You know, let's go to another question here. Let's go
over to Blue Cruise. Do the Sasquatch, dog men and
other cryptids have the ability to use clairvoyance for seeing
through the eyes of the forest creatures in order to
be aware of who or whatever is entering their space.

Speaker 5 (02:42:15):
Yes, they will actually, and it feels really creepy when
they do it.

Speaker 9 (02:42:19):
They will actually look through the eyes.

Speaker 5 (02:42:22):
Not only can they do that by looking through your
eyes at what's around you, they can do that with
other animals in the forest. They will also send various
animals in the forest to whatever area they want them
to go, and that way they can look around and
the sasquatch and dog men will look through their eyes
so that they're a safe distance away and they're safe.

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They used to do that at my house with raccoons.
They would send the raccoons in to look around and
check things out, and I would have different snacks and
things out for them, and then the one raccoon would
go to the top of the tallest tree and squeal
and scream and make all those weird raccoon noises over
towards the direction and that they came in. He would
come down, never touch any of the food whatsoever, scamper

(02:43:05):
off the other way, and then all the sasquatch would
come in as well as a dog man. But yes,
they can absolutely do that, and it does feel really
weird when they look through your eyes at situations, and
at times they will let you look through their eyes
as well, and that's just as equally creepy, fun but creepy.

Speaker 1 (02:43:23):
That's pretty awesome. That's pretty awesome. See the way I
look at it, like if we were to look in
patterns of the forest, they seem to come around when
the owls are starting to make some noise. Nature doesn't
matter which creature it is. But nature's security alarm is

(02:43:45):
the chipmunks and the squirrels. They let every creature know
in their area, who what is in their area.

Speaker 3 (02:43:57):
Yeah, definitely a great underson with that. I didn't even
say birds. Some birds, some smaller birds, starlings, Yeah, maybe
blue jay. I've heard them go off, and it's like
the second day go off, and the squirrels and the
chipmunks go off. So it's I think they all know
what they're all saying. I've always thought that, though you

(02:44:17):
know a language that can't communicate, I think animals are
a hell of a lot smarter than what we give
credit for.

Speaker 5 (02:44:26):
Every one of them, not just the language, but the
silence too.

Speaker 6 (02:44:30):
I mean, when when we know when the cicadas go quiet,
and then everything all of a sudden goes silent, and
something's around, whether it's whether it's them or or whether
there's in the area, or.

Speaker 3 (02:44:42):
You mentioned that. I was just watching some footage that's
about five years old. It's being tiny doing an investigation
out and Marion, and the first thing I said was,
it's too quiet out here. There's something going on.

Speaker 4 (02:44:55):
And I remember that day because I hadn't seen that
video in a long time. But as I'm looking, I'm thinking, yeah, man,
that it was like you could.

Speaker 3 (02:45:02):
Hear a pin drop in the forest.

Speaker 4 (02:45:04):
Well that's started with like some birds, and then you
heard the squirrels shirt and then then everything went quiet.

Speaker 9 (02:45:10):
Yeah, that's the flip of the coin.

Speaker 5 (02:45:12):
If it's quiet and then they all of a sudden
go off, then you know something's coming in. But at
the same time, if they're quiet, if they're loud when
you get there and then it goes to dead silence,
it's it's the same, you know, it's the same thing.
You know that now the cryptids are in.

Speaker 3 (02:45:28):
Yeah, because that's what happened with us in this on
this particular thing. But it's just funny because I was
just watching it and I didn't think I had that footage.
I thought we lost it, uh when the hard drive
crashed in one of my other computers, and uh, we
actually you know, had it on a flash drive. So
I was actually kind of happy to see it, but
it just it just reminded me of that particular incident.
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:45:47):
It's like, because I even said I was songing a tiny,
I'm like, man, what happened?

Speaker 3 (02:45:50):
Why is it so quiet? And Tiny goes, man, the
squirrels aren't even talking anymore. Yeah, And Tiny's like, you, Tiny,
he's got something with animals. It's just I've seen Tiny.
We'd be in the woods. I've seen a chipmunk jump
on his squirrel while arms are jump on his shoulder,
and uh yeah, he hangs out there and he was
walking and I turned around. I'm like, what the what

(02:46:12):
is that? I was being friendly. I'm like, dude, that's
just you get the damn squirrel off you.

Speaker 8 (02:46:17):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:46:18):
I had deer just walk up to me. Wild deer
walk up to me. It's like absolute craziness. I walked
off my front porch one day and a red fox
came out of the woods and just comes and sits
in front of me. And I'm just telling you, the
sasquatch send him. That's why they do it. They check
us out, That's how they do it. I went and
sat next to the bonfire pit one day and I
had five mice come out of the woods in a

(02:46:39):
single file, go right in front of me, all line up,
sit up on their hind legs and look at me
for a minute, and then they all went down, turn
around and walked back in the woods.

Speaker 3 (02:46:47):
That is I've had. Tiny's had baby raccoons walk up
to him, climb up his leg and sit on his
lap and then they'll just walk away. Now, for those
of you who don't know Tiny is, his real name
is Daniel Hurst. Uh. Tiny's seven five hundred pounds. Tiny's
not a small guy. That's why we call him Tanny.

(02:47:07):
But it's just the weirdest thing with all the animals.
I have never we have never not been in.

Speaker 4 (02:47:12):
The woods one time, and all the years I've known him,
or at least I've seen a bird sit on his shoulder,
a chipmunk, a squirrel, raccoons.

Speaker 3 (02:47:20):
I even I watched that guy. He didn't a possum came.

Speaker 4 (02:47:22):
Up to him on time, which is you know, no class,
But anyway, it's just it happens with him all the time.
It's just like he's got this natural ability to communicate
with animals, but he's also very much in the in sync.

Speaker 3 (02:47:34):
With like Hey, there's bad energy here. That is you know.
I've always said, uh, seen the him in action. I've always
said he's gifted like you, but he just you know,
he knows it, but he hasn't done anything with it.

Speaker 1 (02:47:47):
We got four minutes ago before we have to say
good night. Let's get to a question from Jay here.
What do you think of this giant comment UFO three
I at list soon to arrive at Earth by Halloween
night to November first.

Speaker 3 (02:48:03):
I'm dying to hear Robins on this, because actually I
have November twenty first December fifth, and that is from
Abby Low from Harvard University.

Speaker 5 (02:48:13):
Now, I'm gonna be honest and tell you guys, I
don't know that much about it. I've only heard like
little blips about it. But what I will say is this,
and I say this all the time. When you have
something like that that's coming in, there are other things
that will follow it.

Speaker 3 (02:48:30):
I think I think it's a ship.

Speaker 4 (02:48:32):
This is changed trajectory, it's changed speed, it's change trajectory.

Speaker 3 (02:48:37):
I think it's a ship.

Speaker 4 (02:48:38):
I would not be surprised when you have a professor
from Harvard saying, hey, this is a spaceship, all.

Speaker 9 (02:48:44):
Right, Absolutely, this is This.

Speaker 4 (02:48:46):
Is a guy, this is Harvard we're talking about it's
a gold standard, and this guy's saying, no, this is
probably spaceship.

Speaker 3 (02:48:53):
Y'all should probably get shipped together. Excuse my language.

Speaker 5 (02:48:56):
Well, right now, there are an extreme amount of ships
that are landing on our planet right now for an
event that's getting ready to happen, and nothing bad.

Speaker 9 (02:49:06):
Everybody will be fine.

Speaker 5 (02:49:07):
But we have a lot that are good and bad
that are coming in and out.

Speaker 9 (02:49:11):
My guess is it probably is a ship.

Speaker 5 (02:49:13):
If by some chance it's not a ship, it will
be surrounded by ships. And the reason that they do
that is because if it was not for the ETS,
our planet would have got blown to bits a long
time ago. And they monitor a lot of the comments
and things that come in so that if they have to.

Speaker 9 (02:49:27):
Move it off target, they can.

Speaker 5 (02:49:30):
My guess though, with this is that probably there's a
very good chance it is a ship, because I am
very much aware of what is coming in right now.
Not only have I talked to a lot of the ets,
but the people that I work with are very much
aware of it and monitoring it as well.

Speaker 9 (02:49:44):
But most of them are coming in are good. I
will say that, Well, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (02:49:51):
I've actually had a lot of reports lately, well not
a lot more than.

Speaker 3 (02:49:55):
I usually go. Let's put that way. And I was
going to call you about this anyway. I've had a
lot of reptoid reports lately.

Speaker 9 (02:50:02):
Yeah, a lot of.

Speaker 5 (02:50:03):
The ruptoids that are coming in are not all bad.
I know what they're here for. But there's a lot
of them that are coming in and not all of.

Speaker 9 (02:50:14):
Them are bad.

Speaker 4 (02:50:14):
Scare the hell out of me, Rob, I'm not gonna
lie to you. Not all that hears me.

Speaker 3 (02:50:18):
The I r s, my mother and snakes, But the.

Speaker 4 (02:50:24):
Reptoids scare the crap out of me because you don't
know what they're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (02:50:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:50:29):
I mean because the apartment says that they're gonna blast
them on site, and the.

Speaker 9 (02:50:34):
Yeah, there's some bad ones.

Speaker 5 (02:50:35):
They're coming in for a battle, but I mean it's fine,
they're coming in for a good thing.

Speaker 4 (02:50:42):
Well, I hope they're I hope they're nice because there's
something going on.

Speaker 5 (02:50:48):
Yeah, there's a lot going on. But like I said,
there's good and bad coming on the planet, more good
than bad. But I would my guess would be that
that Commet has got a ship and if it is
not a ship, then it will be surrounded by several.

Speaker 3 (02:51:00):
Well that's cool.

Speaker 4 (02:51:02):
Uh, they're actually saying that this thing actually has elements.
Like they think there's got gold on it, they think
it's got water. They thing he's got ice, and there's
there's a whole lot of stuff going on with this thing.

Speaker 3 (02:51:13):
I'm with David, though I'm not sure what it is.

Speaker 4 (02:51:16):
You know, I personally think it's probably a ship just
because the way it's changed rejectory and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:51:20):
But you know, I'm an old sci fi fi and fan.

Speaker 5 (02:51:23):
So hopefully, well the ets can change the projectory of
it as well.

Speaker 9 (02:51:28):
And if it gets really where they can't, they don't want.

Speaker 5 (02:51:30):
It's not going to do any good if our planet
gets blown to bits, not for what they need it for.
So if it looks like they can't change the position
of it, they'll blow it up.

Speaker 1 (02:51:40):
Robin twenty seconds. Tell everybody where they can find you.

Speaker 5 (02:51:44):
You can find me on Facebook under Robin Haynes h
A y ne e S no middle initial, or if
you want my services, you can find me at www
dot Paranormal dash Empowerment dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:51:56):
Robin Haynes right here. It would be great to with
you this weekend, which we likely will. I will be
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