CONSCIOUSNESS: We Are Experiencing an Energy Shift w/ Debz Shakti

Tonight we raise our energy levels at a time when the word needs it.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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We're gonna have a great show tonight, depth shots. He's
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I think the world needs it. We'll be doing that
in hours one and two. Also we'll be getting in
with Drew Bank you with that hours wrap up in
our three along with Steve Stocktor tells it told missing

(01:48):
personal mysteries. Just anticipating a fantastic show and we appreciate
everybody who's come on in here tonight. We're not going
to delay any We're going to ask the question consciousness.
Are we experiencing an energy shift? And we're gonna do
that with our guest Deb Shakti bringing her in the building. Hey, Debs,
how you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh Gody cop copy off Guarden and just inhale my
own step. I am Other than that, I'm fantastic, My
brother Rob, thank you for having me on again tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
We have to do with Debs. We always have to
bring in occasionally because sometimes we're okay, sometimes we're not okay.
And I've said this in a lot of shows recently,
and I think the world it probably agrees with me
that we're just going through the toughest time right now.
Energy wise, it's very very low. Sometimes I feel defeated,

(02:42):
you know, and and it's it's affected me personally, and
that's why I'm loving having you on here today. How
are you how are you dealing with this? And what
are based on the fact that you are in the
hypno quantum hypno therapy meditation practices? What what do you
do to get through a time like this?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
It depends on what's going on. I mean, you know,
day by day, I have a consistent practice that I
have been evolving for you know, pretty much my whole life,
but really routinely for over fifty years. Breath work, yoga, meditation,

(03:25):
being in nature either out in the sun, under the
clouds or under the stars every single day, you know,
touching the earth, being kind of people, being grateful. There
are so many ways that you can raise your vibrational state.
But I'll tell you it has been really tough because

(03:45):
the energy globally right now is just so chaotic. It's chaotic,
and it's a dare I say, here comes conspiracy theory stuff.
But I truly believe it is orchestrated chaos to get
people feeling off kilter, which makes you feel afraid or

(04:07):
angry or helpless. And to be honest, that's not the
real reality. The real reality, as you know I always
talk about this, is that we are unlimited beings and
we do have the capacity to change anything with our
thoughts and our feelings if we focus it enough, and

(04:28):
the higher level of feelings we focus ourselves on and
the things that we put out into the world in
that vibrational state, it does affect matter. You know, we
were just talking off camera with our brother Drew, who
was talking about telekinesis for instance. You know, mind over matter.
This isn't some woo woo carnival stage trick. This is

(04:53):
real stuff, and you know, but it takes work, it
takes practice, and I believe the main practice is watching
your mind and bringing it back in, raining it back
in from being pulled into the tar pit, as I
like to call it, of the global gunk. You most

(05:16):
of that is orchestrated garbage. And it doesn't make the news,
it doesn't much make social media because everybody's now so
I believe, so feeling so off kilter and afraid of
when the next shoe is going to drop and how
badly it's going to affect them. That they're constantly paying

(05:39):
attention to all this stuff like they can't get enough.
It's very addictive and it keeps them in turmoil, when
in fact, if you could just put that stuff to
the side, at least for a few hours a day
and go do something else that is more positive, like
being kind, being compacted. You don't have to do it

(06:01):
all in one big chunk, just little bits of your day,
taking time to really notice how you're breathing, maybe slow
your breath down, deepen it a little bit, bring in
some memories of love that you've had, or joyfulness or success,
even gratitude, and then do something to make other people

(06:24):
feel grateful without needing something back in return. These are
the things that raise your vibrational state. And when you
do that, your reality shifts. Some people will say, oh, no,
it doesn't really shift, it, that's all in your head.
Well that might be true, but if your perception of
reality shifts what's the difference. If you're perceiving that your

(06:48):
reality has changed a little bit for the better and
start living that way, then you start living that way
and it makes your reality. So it's kind of a
chicken egg kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
And I think I saw some and then you talked
there about it seems this moment maybe orchestrated. And I
don't think that's really conspiracy theory, because literally I was
talking to my brother on the phone the other day
and he's kind of not really into the subject, I
mean in consciousness as well, doesn't really understand when I

(07:19):
talk this way. But I told this is what I
said to him. I was like, what the world is
going here in America. I'll just start with saying this,
here in America, we have gone through tougher times than this.
There's been as far as the energy levels have been
much lower than this historically, and we in the early
nineteen hundreds, this wasn't the best America, and it was

(07:41):
worse than it is now. So I don't really want
to compare it to that. But I will say globally,
as far as everyone at one time across the globe,
this is probably collectively one of the lowest energy moments
we're all experiencing together. And I looked at it, and
I and look, I always try to find a silver line,
and so I feel like we are going through this

(08:03):
moment and as a prerequisite to this ascension and this
raising of the vibration that we're looking for, because globally,
I don't feel like you can get much lower than
where we're at. And to go through this, I think
is a great experience actually, because we'll never want to

(08:24):
we'll never want energy this low again. And I don't think,
you know, I think globally everyone's mindset will be, hey,
we don't want to go back there again, and so
it's nothing but ascension from here. So I'm just kind
of feeling like it's so tough, but we will see
a point where everything gets better again, right, And some

(08:45):
of your techniques that you've mentioned, I think are definitely helpful.
With that being said, let's kind of take it back
a little bit, because obviously you've been on here many times,
but let's let everybody know how you even got to
the point to study in hypnotherapy. Let's go down that
plat for a moment.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Okay, Well, let's go all the way back to birth,
from my earliest memories, I have had contact with non
local consciousness, any any type of beings that you might
call ets, angels, interdimensionals, orbs, you name it. I've had

(09:28):
contact with them and just you know, constant daily. Some
were are just very mundane things that happened to me
every day, interactions and all that, and some were outstanding,
you know, huge motherships, going up in ships, changing and
going out of body and going to other dimensions and

(09:50):
seeing my other cells there, which is something I do
in my in my therapy with other people, I help
guide them into that which can be very very healing
and very encouraging empowering. But you know, as from early childhood,

(10:10):
I had the ability to perceive and manipulate energy and
other dimensional aspects, other beings in other dimensions, and you know,
because they're all overlaid in one place in different frequencies.
You know, I'm a scientist, so quantum physics tells us

(10:31):
everything is made of the same energy and it's all
existing in the same place at the same time forever,
but just showing up as different forms due to the
frequencies that each perspective is is oscillating. It vibrating it.
So I grew up at least the first few years

(10:51):
of my life thinking that everybody saw all these other
beings and could interact and and everybody could you know,
have empathy if someone was sick and you could send them,
you know, just your love and they would get better,
or you know, talk to people without using your words.

(11:13):
I was really introverted, So that really was a trick
that I learned early on because I was super shy,
but I could interact with other people and other beings
without being shy with my mind and so and then
you know, it became very apparent that I was a
different kid. And so my parents and you know, Catholic

(11:33):
school and all of that, they wanted to shut all
that down and put me in that box and say, hey,
you can't talk like that. You know, you're really imaginative child,
but quit making things up. Basically, so, being the good
child I was, I did kind of shut it down.
But I continued to have the experiences and a lot
of learning, which kind of molded me for who I

(11:55):
am today. But along the way, I started getting interer
and why am I having these experiences? Why do I
have these abilities when at the time, you know, this
was in the late fifties, early sixties. There was there
was no proof that anybody else was doing it in
my sphere, you know, had I I've been able to

(12:20):
go to the library at that time and read a
few books that were out, I would have known that.
By the time I was, you know, a preteen teenager,
I started, you know, finding out that there were really
cool musicians like the Beatles who were learning how to
do these things. When they didn't come in with it,

(12:41):
switched on with meditation, with music, vibrational you know, sound technology,
things like that, and so very early on I got
interested in that and I won't go into the story,
but totally synchronistic thing happened to me where I met
a yogi and he became my teacher, and I became
a teacher a few years after starting practicing with him,

(13:04):
and I've been a yoga teacher and a meditation teacher
for over fifty years now, and it really changed my life.
But it helped to explain things. However, as I started
going through school, I also have a very scientific mind,
and I got really interested in biology and chemistry and

(13:26):
physics and math and all of that. And when I
started going to college. Then that's when everything hit. I
decided I was going to study clinical psychology and study
the mind, because why are different minds different? Why was
mine so different than my best friend for instance? And
that's when I cracked the code with hypnosis. The program

(13:51):
I was in, I was by the time I got
really into it. I was helping. I was the assistant
to the director of the Peace HD program at the
college I was in, and it was the premier college
for clinical psych those years, so I had the cream
de la cream of teachers studied hypnosis and biofeedback and realized, well,

(14:15):
they're just using a different term for meditation, and they're
using a different term for out of body experiences, and
they're using a different term. You know, they're just using
different verbiage. So I got very much into that, became
very proficient at it, and then at the time, back
then it was pretty archaic. Then now I'm sure it's fine,

(14:38):
but back then they wouldn't let you speak about any
of this stuff. You know, you had to stay on
script and be go to the code of the APA
with your sessions. So I broke free from doing clinical
practice and developed by that time, I had gotten really

(14:59):
into studying quantum physics because it kind of explained the
universe to me and what was going on in my.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
World.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
So I just put all my gifts together, the psychic gifts,
the energy work, and then all of the hypnosis techniques
along with all of this huge body of yogic wisdom
that I had, that I had distinct proof of helping
people feel better, changing their brain chemistry with breath work,

(15:30):
with movement, with using their voice, and I put it
all together and called it quantum hypnotherapy, or you know,
later on just started calling it all quantum consciousness or
quantum transformational work. But that's how that was the progression
of that. My clinical practice gave me such a body

(15:56):
of experience for doing therapy with people, listening to people,
or knowing how to meet people where they are and
speak to their language. So it was very very grateful
for it, but it was very limited. It still is
limiting because they'll have you go back to a childhood
experience or go back to see what happened when you

(16:18):
were in a car wreck, you know, some trauma thing.
If you're going through that kind of therapy, and it's great,
you can go any place and see what something did,
how something happened, in very explicit clarity from all perspectives,
not just your own. But that's about where it ends

(16:40):
in clinical practice with my practice, where I empower my
clients by having them do some of these techniques and
practice them before they come to the session. It enables
the pineal gland, which is really what the Yogis call
the third eye. I call it the cosmic satellite dish
or radio tower, but it enables that to connect to

(17:02):
the quantum field, so that you can go anywhere in
any when and see things through the eyes of anyone.
And that really helps people to see just how unlimited
we really are, because again quantum science teaches us there
are infinite universes. There are infinite versions of you in

(17:27):
these infinite universes, and you continue to create more every
time you make decisions. So you know, the person who
decided to have the twinkie instead of the apple at
lunch today, that's one universe and that person's eating the twinkie,
but there's another version of you eating the apple, and

(17:47):
it splits off and it creates a whole other universe.
And then they go off and start living their lives
so it's fascinating work. But that's how I got into it,
and that's how I developed the quantum aspect of this.
And I think it's way more empowering because I teach
the client how to do it themselves so that once
they're out of the session, they don't need me anymore

(18:10):
unless they want me. And and I think that's the
true meaning of therapy is empowerment and growth and allowing
someone to take personal investment in their in their own journey.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
So, anyway, long answer to a very important question.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, a great answer as well. And as you're talking here,
I'm thinking to myself, you know, and I've said this before,
that it for some reason, you know, there's there's within
this ufology community, if you want to call it, that
there's a segment of the community which is considered the
consciousness community, which is an even more niche part of

(18:53):
the community. And the thing to me, and it's so
hard for me to realize, even though now I understand
a lot of it, why so many people are closed
off to the consciousness conversation. It doesn't seem to be
something that interests a lot of people when we all
are connected to consciousness, that we all deal with consciousness.

(19:14):
Why do you think that is? Why do you think
that so many people are not open to understanding the
conversation of consciousness and why they choose to exist in
this other alternate reality which people call reality. Why do
you think that is?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well, it's manyfold the answer, but a couple of the
main reasons that I have observed it are. Number One,
all of us from birth in this earth realm, third
dimensional earth realm, are being indoctrinated with certain belief systems

(19:54):
and certain really just beliefs of how things work here.
Number one, Unless you can see it, touch it, feel it,
smell it, you know, hear it, it's not real, which
is kind of silly, because you know, what we breathe
you can't see, smell or hear it, right, But or

(20:14):
what we feel when we're in love, that's something you
cannot measure. It's not quantitative data. But for the most part,
we are, from birth on, especially once we get put
in school, taught that you know, this place runs on
certain parameters and you have to stay within the boundaries

(20:35):
of those parameters, and if you don't then you're either
you know, ostracized, alienated, not taken seriously or worse. You know,
you can get executed, for instance, you could get burned
at the stake if you will. So people from birth

(20:56):
on are driven by fear based leave systems. It's a
control mechanism of the elite basically, or whomver that top
echelon is that wants to keep being in power. It's
not going to stay in power much longer anyway, by
the way, f footnote the other thing, And you know,

(21:17):
fear is a very powerful thing. So and people want
to because they have been programmed to that. People want
to fit in. So that's why we have trends, that's
why we have now, that's why we have social media.
That's even one more big layer of reinforcement of the
whole thing. If you're not like this influencer, then you know,

(21:38):
what are you even doing here? That kind of thing.
The second reason I think people don't want to get
into the consciousness uh topic too deeply is because, let's
be honest, if you do get in it, even on
the surface, one of the big tenants of consciousness studies

(22:02):
is you're the creator. You're the one who's creating all this.
So if you're the creator, that bears a lot of responsibility. Right,
If you're just an irresponsible creator, then what good are you?
So then you go back to the fear thing. Most

(22:23):
people these days especially, are overworked, overtest, overburdened. They're tired,
they're anxious, they don't sleep, they don't eat right, they're
constantly feeling afraid. And then you have all this terrible,

(22:44):
you know, constant barrage of negativity coming at you from
all sides. So you know, it takes a very stalwart
soul to say, I don't care. I'm going to stand
up to all that, and I am the creator and
I'm going to change the things. The thing you have
to understand is you have to change it in here first.

(23:07):
You don't you know, you can go about changing the
world on the outside by doing things and starting projects
and starting organizations and all that, and it works, but
it's a much slower track. If you go inward, get
into the stillness and really do your own shadow work,
and you do your own growth and empowerment work, the

(23:29):
world changes much more quickly for you. Or if it
doesn't change so much, what you do notice is it
doesn't bother you so much because you understand that everyone's
on their own journey and you're on yours and you're
going to do your best and it all works out eventually,
which is really, I think the real truth. But most

(23:53):
people are afraid to look at that.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
That makes sense. So we're going to actually run into
our first breaker tonight. Guys, we're talking kind. Are we
experiencing the energy shift? I think we definitely are. With
dev Shock you right here, Space Out Radio app that
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(26:00):
we have beat On, beat On, be done with it,
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Kim Jellen gets deep when you get to talking consciousness,

(26:23):
it gets deep because this really is the it's the
essence of like life. It's it's the it's the realest
you can get. And that's how I feel about it,
and that's why I question, uh, why people aren't more
into consciousness. Man, I really feel like it should be.
And hopefully through these shows, they you know, open their

(26:45):
eyes up to I think what we're going through now
will definitely achieve that. Oh yeah, Shroom Cowboy, appreciate you
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You guys are putting in questions early, which is awesome.
Just put keep them in caps and I will see
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(27:06):
end of the show here or back half of the
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over there? How do I get to there? Okay, awesome question,
awesome question. Thanks for chiming in. Let's see wool writers DG.

(27:28):
Thanks for coming in, Toma ken y'all dig it Yep.
We can appreciate you coming on in. Who else do
we have out there? Walter Kopkyabinski in the building. I
appreciate showing on up here, Walter. Also Shelley Montgomery. Shelley Montgomery,
thanks for coming on in. Thanks for showing up tonight

(27:50):
and joining the conversation. Polly says Dev's is amazing she is.
That is why we have to keep her in our
rotation because we need her. Let's see, and I think
we are current there. Awesome, awesome. So we also have

(28:11):
a show coming up here guys tomorrow night. We will
be talking about the Age of Disclosure film. Actually, I'll
bring that up real quick. Age of Disclosure Dan Fair.
If you guys haven't seen it, it's definitely I must see.
Came out Friday. Amazon Prime believes like twenty dollars something
like that in order to purchase it or rent it

(28:33):
one of the two and good watch. A lot of
shows are doing reviews on it. None will be like
the one we'll do tomorrow, so make sure you're here
for that seven pm Pacific. We'll have a great panel
talking about this film, some of the revelations made in
the documentary and where we go from here. You know

(28:54):
what will this spark a whole new Part of the
conversation is I think shaping up to be an awesome year.
Let's hurry up and get out of this one. Let's see.
Miss Captain Jones says, great film, awesome, awesome. I don't
want to go too much into it tonight. We'll save

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it all for tomorrow and let's see here, we got
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(30:32):
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we get right back into the conversation with Debs. So
Dev's we were talking before the break, and you know,

(30:55):
I was sitting here thinking as well. You had mentioned
that a lot of these you know, governments, i'll say,
powers that be, which I are really the source of
all this negative energy is really and it's historically been
that way, h and it will continue to be that
way unless it changes. But I also I feel what

(31:15):
you're saying, and I do feel, as I was saying
earlier with this, like we have to be drug to
the lowest point in order to kind of understand and
feel that that way we can just do nothing. But
A's s in from here, and I do feel like
this whole I think it will change as well, that
the whole power situation and structure that we're looking at

(31:37):
right now. Do you agree with that and could you
elaborate on that.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I agree one hundred percent, and I'll tell you why.
One of the things I didn't mention about the gifts,
and by the way, everyone has all of these gifts.
It just might be turned way down on volume until
you're ready, or maybe on sleep mode until your timing
mechanism goes off. But I think everybody's starting to come

(32:04):
online pretty soon. But one of the major gifts I
have is of channeling. And one of the main groups
that I channel it's a group entity called the Star
Teachers or the Teachers. For decades, the teachers have been
giving the same message, and that is, you guys, do it.

(32:27):
You do it in this incarnation. By the way, this
is the lifetime, this is the timeline that human beings
jump over that threshold. They hit escape velocity from the
duality and the negativity of the third dimensional Earth life,
and they move up a couple of notches. And I'll
talk about that later. But they say that we have

(32:50):
already done it, because, as I said before, everything happens
forever from what you perceive as the past, the present,
and the future. It's all in one place forever. And
you can just tune your dial, your radio dial into
them and you know, view them, initiatee them, creating them,

(33:10):
and interacting them. But they say that we do it
in this lifetime. But that for the most part, human
beings are I don't know, have evolved as such to
not want to make drastic or conscionable change until they

(33:35):
are pushed to the brink of destruction right until they
are backed in the corner. And so they say that
something is going to occur in this in this particular timeline,
in this lifetime, you and I are living where humans
are going to have to make a decision. Either we

(33:56):
learn how quickly to live together, work together, played again
other in harmony, and take all of our variables, all
of our differences, and put them into a cohesive way
of living like the rest of the cosmos does, or
it'll be you know, you'll self annihilate. But they say

(34:17):
that we don't. They say that we don't self annihilate
we get to the brink. They won't say what it
is like, Is it going to be an asteroid hitting
the planet or coming near? Is it going to be
a threat of a global nuclear war? You know, they
won't give us that peace because they want us to
have the experience, but not to put fear in anyone.

(34:40):
What I'm here to say is it's happening now. And
if you want proof that it's happening, now, take a
look around you. It might take a little digging because
usually what you're seeing in your feeds and on the
press and everything is pretty negative and it's hate filled
and fear filled. But suddenly people you never thought would

(35:04):
change are turning a one eighty and talking about things
that are just the opposite that they were, you know,
proponents for before you know. And I'm not just talking
about political parties and that kind of thing. But if
you take a look even at the news in the
last couple of days, that's been happening, and people maybe

(35:27):
in your own households and your own families may have
been totally against this, that and the other thing that
is a pretty high vibrational thing that you've been trying
to talk about, such as the UFO subject or disclosure,
and they think you're kookie and dumb, and you know,

(35:48):
they don't want to have anything to do with you
at Thanksgiving, And then suddenly they're the ones who have
all of this, have just suddenly just been on a
non stop binge, looking at all of the d and
the documentaries and coming up with their own ideas and
agreeing that it is happening. So I can't tell you

(36:10):
how much evidence of that I'm seeing right now, but
you're not going to see it much in your feeds
or in your news. You're going to have to have
a direct experience of it. So I telebrate everybody, just
really encourage you be looking for it because what you
expect to see is what you are going to perceive.

(36:32):
If you constantly are ruminating over how horrible the world
is and how awful this guy is and how hateful
this woman is, You're just gonna keep replaying and getting
more of that because that's how the universe works. It's
that's frequency stuff, that's consciousness. It gives you what you
are focusing on. But I can tell you it's happening,

(36:56):
and it is happening really fast. Now. You think stuff's
been to upening fast lately with disclosure and and you know,
sightings and experiences and getting into the mainstream, hang on
to your hat because it's it's going to be a
wild ride, but it's going to be a good ride.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
It is, and I agree with that. It definitely is
moving faster than disclosure. And then when you look at it,
you know, I think it goes back to one thing
that I always talk about, which is, you know, the
way for us to make a big change is for
everyone's attention to be on one thing at one time,

(37:39):
like globally, like we did through the pandemic in different
scenarios where we all got to experience the same thing
and focus on the same thing. Now one other thing though,
because you know, I used to there was a point
where I didn't fully understand consciousness and I used to hear,
you know, people talk about consciousness, and I think it'd

(38:00):
be it do justice to kind of translate for some
of those that don't understand some of the terms and
things that we use. Because we talk about consciousness that
there's different definitions for that. There's also different definitions for energy.
So when people on the outside hear those words, it
doesn't necessarily click for them in the moment on what

(38:22):
we're really saying. And so, you know, one thing about
energy for me, a thing I like to say is
like when you think of someone who you know that
always brings great it brightens up the room, right, someone
who walks in and you automatically you're up, Your spirit
is uplifted, you feel happy if you were sad before. Also,

(38:46):
when you put on a particular song or music that
that makes you feel better in the moments, movies that
kind of make you happy at the end, it's those
are examples of your energy. Mean uplifted. How would you
describe it if you were trying to translate to those
out there that are just hearing this and not really

(39:09):
understanding what consciousness is.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, if you want to understand consciousness and the easiest
terms possible, insert the word emotions. Okay, if you don't
like hearing the word, you know, raise your vibrational state,
insert the word emotion. You know, because there is there

(39:35):
is a hierarchy of the different frequencies that our energy
bodies go through that is in mesh, in our minds
and our hearts and our bodies, in our physical reality,
it's all in mesh. It's all entangled, so you know.
For instance, a lower grade emotion would be one of

(39:57):
the lowest grade is fear. Think of how you feel
when you're afraid, like really afraid. You can't create from there,
you're too busy trying to think, you know, how am
I going to survive? Anger? If you're really angry, there's
a lot of energy there, but your consciousness is focused

(40:18):
on the particulars of why you're angry, you know, what
just happened, and playing that over and over again and
building that fire up. Those are very low vibrational energies,
and so they kind of keep you the more you
focus on them and think about them, they keep you

(40:38):
literally pinned to that vibrational or emotional state, so you
keep getting what you were experiencing. So it behooves people
to become more self aware, consciously self aware of what
their emotional state is. And if you can't tell, I mean,

(41:02):
most people just get in their emotions and they don't
think they're just they're just automatic pilot.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
In neuroscience, is called the default mode network in your brain.
You go to the thing that your most, that you
trust the most to survive when you're in trouble. So
you know, if your default mode network says, oh gosh,
that guy just cut me off in traffic, I better
get really angry and rage at him and show him

(41:32):
what's for or he's going to come after me. You know,
that's just kind of a build up of that energy
and it pins you to that reality. So pretty soon
every time you're in traffic, that's what happens constantly if
you are being more conscious and you catch yourself every
once in a while thinking, oh gosh, I just got

(41:55):
really angry, like overly angry at somebody who just probably
was in a hurry, maybe their kid was sick or something,
and they cut in front of me. Well, why did
I waste all my energy on that, you know? And
why did I make myself feel so bad? Because anger
does not make you feel good. So there are techniques

(42:17):
that you can do that I teach that help you
raise your vibrational state into a frequency where you're no
longer attached to that reality, to that emotional content. Things
like changing the way you're breathing when you're angry or upset.
More than likely you're holding your breath or you're breathing

(42:40):
really shallowly and really rapidly. If you can consciously catch
yourself and then start to breathe in very slowly and
breathe out even more slowly, that's going to get your
parasympathetic nervous system engaged, and it's going to calm you down,
and suddenly your brain starts working better because the brain

(43:02):
shuts down when you get in those lower vibrational states.
It takes too much energy for that little computer to
work that hard, so it starts shutting down certain aspects
of your being just to keep feeding that energy. But
if you can slow it down, if you could even
do a few cool tricks, like you know, if you

(43:25):
find yourself being very anxious looking around and naming everything
out loud that you can see that's red, it's a
pattern interrupt for that default mode network, and it will
knock you out of that and suddenly you'll be able
to think clearly again, and most importantly, you'll be able

(43:46):
to create something better. We were born creators, and you
cannot create when you're in a low vibrational state or
emotional state. So consciousness for me is about understanding, at
least from the human perspective, that emotions are kind of

(44:10):
the energy that runs that machine. And depending on what
it's like gas for your car, right, you don't put
the cheapest gas into a Ferrari, it's not going to
run right. And you don't put the most expensive gas
in Toyota because it's not made to take that right.
So you have to put the right fuel in there,

(44:33):
and the fuel that our consciousness needs to really create
and be happy and not get stuck in anxiety or
sadness or fear is literally doing something different, and often
it is a physical thing at first that gets you

(44:54):
back inside where you can go into the deep inner
self and change it from there. Still might sound too esoteric, but.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
No, no, it was excellently because I think as long
as they understand, you gave the perfect thing emotional instead
of energy or vibration. So that was perfect. You know,
when you think about the word, another common word that's
used just in everyone's vocabulary is karma, And so karma

(45:25):
would it would appear that that ties to energy, Like
is karma to you a real thing? Being that you
studied this and is karma a real thing? And how
would you how does that convert into like the conversation
we're having now.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Sure, karma is a real thing. It is part of
the construct of reality, of reality with the capital R
by the way, But karma, the way that it is
perceived and tossed around, especially in Western civilization, we've taken
it and turned it again again, those who want to

(46:01):
keep us in fear have turned it into a word
that equals punishment. You know, you better watch out or
karma is going to get you. Right. Cause and effect,
And karma is cause and effect. But it's cause and
effect by way of teaching you something. It's it's your

(46:24):
great teacher, it is your lesson plan Karma is just
a way of bringing things to your attention that you
came here to work on, or that you need to
work on next, that you need to work on now.
It's like a teacher coming around and seeing that you're
reading a comic book instead of your history chapter that

(46:45):
you're supposed to be reading, and saying, hey, let's put
the comic book away till break, let's get back to
the history chapter. Well, if you don't, and the teacher
karma see as you reading the comic book again, then
there's going to be a consequence and bring your attention
more forcibly back to the history chapter. Right. So, karma

(47:07):
is sometimes seen as punishment because most human beings don't
want to listen to the teacher, and they just want
to do their own thing, and they're very comfortable doing
the same thing over again and over again and over
again without thinking about the fact that if you did

(47:28):
take a chance and read the history chapter in your book,
you might learn something really cool that's applicable to your life.
Not saying the comic book wouldn't either, but you know
in this instance, so a lot of folks myself included,
during their life cycles will make choices and have consequences,

(47:52):
have outcomes, and maybe they're not outcomes that you would
like to have. You want to change that, But if
you keep making the same choices, you're gonna get the
same outcomes. Only. The way that karma works is every
time you don't quite ace the chapter test, it brings

(48:13):
the lesson back really more profoundly. So you know, at first,
karma might just tap you on the shoulder when you're
going not the best direction in your decision making, let's
just say, and you might not notice it. Then it
might kind of, you know, take your hand a little

(48:36):
more structured, probably still not going to pay attention. If
for long, then maybe it, you know, makes you stub
your toe and fall down so that you'll stop and
pay attention to what's happening. And if you still don't
take the time to get the chapter test right, eventually
it's going to run you into a tree where you

(48:59):
will have so much pain that you have to pay
attention to it, or so much shock or so much
you know, insert appalling or awe inspiring or shocking thing here.
And that's why people think it's a punishment, but it's not.
But karma is the way that we teach ourselves in

(49:20):
this school for the Soul, third dimensional Earth life, who
we really are and how to get back to where
we were. This is just a little experiment that we
built for ourselves to experience limitation and emotions and things

(49:41):
like that. Most of the cosmos does not live this way.
And I can tell you I've seen it myself in
you know, the out of body experiences. I've had countless,
countless countless quantum hypnosis sessions where people see their own
death in one of the lives that they're looking at

(50:01):
and they ascend out of the body, and every single
time they start reporting things like, oh, Earth, life is
just like a It's like a play. It's like everybody
puts costumes on and place parts to have some experiences.
It is not the real reality. It's a spec of reality,
but it's not the whole thing. And how funny because

(50:25):
everybody is just as divine as the next person. But
when you've got those costumes on and you're playing roles
reading from a script that you all wrote before you
came in and then you decided not to remember that
you were in a play, that can get pretty daunting,
you know, But once you see it, you can't go back,

(50:47):
and then you don't have any fear. You don't have
fear of consequences of well, if this politician makes this
decision and it's going to just ruin my life, And
then you start getting angry and you start doing all
kinds of priss and getting upset, and pretty soon you've
lost your way about why you came here. Right, So,

(51:09):
and I just use politics a lot now because it's
just such a powerful force globally. I think the powers
that want to stay in power aren't even political. I
think they are even over that. But the other thing
the teachers always say is those who think that they
are running the world are being played just like little

(51:33):
chessmen on a chess board by those of us who
are your elder brothers and sisters, and we're just guiding everything.
So don't buy into the narrative that everything is, you know,
just gone to hell and it's not ever going to
get better, because it's up to you to make it better.

(51:56):
And the best way is to go in and really
get to know that part of you that is super divine,
that is source. And so there are many pathways up
that mountain, you know. I teach a lot of them.
There are so many great teachers. Now we're living in
the greatest time I think ever has been on earth,

(52:19):
where talented teachers and guides are everywhere. Every street corner
you can find somebody to help you find your way
out out of the tar pit.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, and you know, it seems like, especially in today's
age social media, even YouTube. We're broadcasting on YouTube, but
even YouTube has has been like a source of a
lot of this negative energy and you find yourself somehow

(52:53):
attracted to it, and then you're indulging in it. And
I found it. Took me a moment, but one day
I just realized, let me just disconnect from that, let
me just not indulge, let me just walk away and
do something else that makes me feel better in order

(53:13):
to escape that energy. And as simple as that, really,
at the end of the day, what would you say
to that with about thirty seconds.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
That's becoming consciously self aware and congratulations, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Neuroscience. Neuroscience teaches us that we create chemicals in our
brains that reinforce the emotional state that is most sustained
that you're in. So it takes becoming consciously self aware
go do something different like draw something, or go dance
or listen to some music or be nice to somebody

(53:48):
for a while to break you out of that. That's all.
It takes a pattern, interrupt and then you're creating new
brain chemicals that create something better.

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we go ahead and jump back into the conversation. So
I was talking before the break on. You know social
media and everyone's connected to it. Most people are in

(01:00:43):
some form of fashion. YouTube is one of the biggest
streaming platforms in the world. I technically only watch YouTube
for some reason because you only so much time in
the day that I find myself over consumed with it.
But then I was being exposed to a lot of
negativity and just a lot of bad energy and who
needs that on top of things you're going through in

(01:01:05):
your normal life anyways, So I found a way to
disconnect from it. You talked about that being an awakening
moment for me, and now I see it that way
at this point, like it was that easy to do. So,
so what do you think it is that it draws
people into not I guess social media, but just what
draws us towards this negativity? And then why does it

(01:01:27):
take so long to figure out that it's very easy
to disconnect from it or just change like the way
you're thinking in the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Well, I truly believe that it just goes back to
you know, how we've evolved, you know here in third
dimensional Earth life Charles Donlin said it best is survival
of the fittest, at least at the beginning. You know,
you have to keep fighting to stay alive and to

(01:01:57):
protect your family. And then eventually you you, you, you know,
evolve where you get things. You have to protect your things,
and you know, and before long you all have land
and you want to protect your land. You want to
protect your community, you want to protect your country. There's boundaries,
there's borders, uh, and then there becomes you know, prejudice

(01:02:18):
and all that, and all of this is divisiveness, which
is not our natural state. Our natural state is coherence,
it is oneness. But this stuff keeps getting stirred up
because it keeps us from remembering the oneness that we
are all connected and that we all have something in common.

(01:02:42):
We are all made of the same energy, and we
all have the ability to see more in other people
than we see on the surface. And when we do,
then we that's when the real magic happens. You know,
even if you have dealy disparate beliefs, there's still a

(01:03:02):
human being. There's still your brother or your sister. You're
all we're all related here. So the reason why we
tend to go back to the negative is because the
ego personality is kind of like a security guard. Okay,
that's Its main function is to protect you from you know,

(01:03:25):
stepping off a cliff or burning up in a fire.
It wants to protect the spacesuit. I call the body
the space suit. Right, You're a spiritual being eternal, but
to have a physical experience in third dimensional Earth life,
you have to be walking around a spacesuit or you
can't have a valid experience of that. So the spacesuit

(01:03:47):
is equipped with this security system, the ego personality, and
it is programmed to constantly be on the lookout for danger.
And in society, those who have built society have built
in this kind of rule, if you will, But it's

(01:04:08):
not a real rule. It's a made up rule that
anything out of the norm, anything that doesn't look like you,
sound like you, believe like you, not from the same place,
not the same skin color, on and on and on,
is suspect to be dangerous. And so you're constantly categorizing, labeling,

(01:04:30):
which causes more divisiveness, more separateness, when our true state
is oneness. So to become more in a harmonious state,
one where you do feel that oneness, the easiest way
for me is to go into deep meditation. And some
people can't do that, you know, but on their own.

(01:04:52):
And there are many ways to help yourself get there,
and I mentioned some of them. Breath work, being creative,
being grateful, just going in your mind and thinking up things,
bringing in memories that made you feel good when they
happened at first, and immersing yourself in that feeling state

(01:05:13):
again immediately lifts you out of that lower vibrational state,
and it kind of shuts that default mode network, the ego, personality,
security guard down a little bit or a lot, and
then you can see reality in a whole new light.
So social media is built on a foundation of keeping

(01:05:36):
you in that fear state. I hate to say it,
but it just is. Does it have positive aspects too? Absolutely?
I think it's a wonderful tool. I use it all
the time. I love it. But literally, paying attention to

(01:05:57):
anything that does not keep you in a higher level
vibrational state begins to tell your brain to create the
chemical compounds that create that other reality and keep you
in fear, anxiety, you know, uh, sorrow depression add to that. Now,

(01:06:19):
in this generation, most people aren't even using their computer
as much for that. They are using this device right
this device electronically is emitting frequencies constantly that are disparate
to your own coherent frequency of oneness. It is disrupting

(01:06:44):
you electronically. You are, we are all electrical beings, and
it's disrupting the signals in our cells, which causes us
to not be able to sleep. It causes us to
always be on the lookout danger and we don't even
know it because every time you touch this device, and

(01:07:06):
this has been proven in research now over and over again,
anytime you touch this device, your brain signals to the
panel and pituitary glands to release some dopamine, which is
a feel good drug. It's a reward system and it
hits the same receptor sites that heroin or opiates, or

(01:07:30):
nicotine or alcohol, or you name any kind of addiction.
It's the same thing. And so you become addicted because
you want to feel good. It may start with you
wanting to just look at cute puppy videos when you're
stressed out. That's cool. But every time you touch that

(01:07:51):
phone look at it, and to a lesser degree, your computer,
and to a lesser degree, the TV set. But it's
all kind of the same. They're all emitting these freak
and sees. Every time you put your attention to that
and not into the inner world or the physical world
around you, you are creating disruption in your cells that

(01:08:14):
keep you wanting more. Why do you think if you
can't sleep at night, you'd like, Okay, I'm just gonna
check that one text that came from my friend. I
saw that it came through I'm going to text it
up takes them back because that makes me feel good.
But the minute you touch that phone, you get a
dopamine hit. It lasts for just a few seconds, you

(01:08:36):
feel better, and then three hours later you realize you're
sitting there in bed on your phone, scrolling and seeing
all of this other stuff that keeps you anxious, awake
and feeling bad. It is the most addictive drug we
have on the planet right now. And I am not

(01:08:58):
preaching to give up your phone, or give up social media,
or give up YouTube. I'm preaching have balance. So set
parameters for yourself for when you touch that when you
use it. I could not believe it. On that phone,
there is a little thing that you can look up
how much time you spent on it every day? Have

(01:09:19):
you ever done that, Rob, I haven't. Oh my god,
you think the human mind thinks, Oh, I probably spent
you know, half hour hour looking at stuff. Most people
are spending eight, nine, ten hours a day looking at
that phone, and they're still trying to exist in the world,

(01:09:40):
do their job, be a parent, be a lover all that,
and that gets fragmented because our attention is constantly going
to that or what we saw on that what we
experienced on that because even thinking about what you experienced
on that phone or that computer again creates those addictive chemicals.

(01:10:04):
So I hate to say it, but one of the
biggest things you can do for yourself is to break
the habit of being on your media so much every day.
Just cut back fifteen minutes a day even and go
outside or do something creative or journal or heaven forbid,

(01:10:27):
you might do a little breath work, or just close
your eyes and just go inside yourself and be quiet
for a while and see what's behind your eyelids. You
won't believe what happens. And if you do that in
a group, like when we do group contact work like
See five and my friends and I we do just

(01:10:49):
talk to Melissa Taine the other night, when we do
See five together with our friend Kimberly Port and with
you know, Chris Bledsoe. People like that. We get people
in a group and we all start doing the same
thing at the same time. That is uplifting. Whether it's
saying you know a special mantra, or it's listening to

(01:11:12):
a meditation, or it's just breathing together. Suddenly your hearts
all come into coherence and that power is amplified, and
suddenly everybody has great contact. People who never had contact
will have contact. Because when you're in heart coherence, you

(01:11:34):
can do anything. So to come back and circle back
to what you were saying, group energy can literally change things.
You're right on the money, and the Para labs have
proven that. Heart Math Institute has proven it so many times.
When people get together and focus their intention on peace,

(01:11:56):
for instance, the crime rate will go down in that area.
It's measurable. And I I, this is what's so exciting
to me because this is what I love to do.
It's lead groups in having an experience and it feels
so good to have that experience that Guess what, those

(01:12:16):
are addictive drugs too, that your brain is creating when
you do this coherence work, when you do this oneness work,
when you do meditation, it's also addictive. And the more
you do, the better you feel, the better you feel,
the more you want.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
And then guess what, You're way up here in this
state and suddenly reality looks completely different.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
And there's definitely pluses and minuses, good and bad when
it comes to social media, and you know the one
thing that I've realized and noticed about it is that
it is it's at this point it's hardwired into like
our emotional states as human beings. Right, So it's like
it's to control. It's a remote control that is that

(01:13:03):
is immediately connected to every soul around this world, and
it could they could turn the dial at any time
on how they want to make to change the global
energy level. And that's the thing that's crazy to me.
And when I always when I think about stuff like that,
that's a powerful tool to have, and it's used for

(01:13:24):
the for the wrong purposes in a lot of cases.
Like you said, you can be scrolling social media just
trying to be happy looking at it. My girl likes
talking dogs, right, so she s the talking dog video
and get to laughing and she's now she's happy. But
then you keep scrolling, you fall down a rabbit hole,
and now you've ended up at some sort of hostage

(01:13:45):
video where now your frequency is taken down low. And
it's just so, it's so it's such a powerful tool
that someone can use to manipulate the minds and feelings
of everyone at once. And it takes me back to
that always talk about the aerial school sighting as being
one of my favorite sightings, and not just because it

(01:14:06):
was kids, but because of the message that they received,
where they were told technology is bad, and this would
be an instance where you could look at why that
might be true, because you have technology that can mass
manipulate the minds of a lot of people at once,
and that's a very dangerous thing, you know. And I

(01:14:26):
just to go back. I used to work at Verizon
Wireless years ago, and this is right as text messaging
started coming in, and I would be, you know, the
normal person coming during that era maybe was sending the
tech you had to do that quirity, not the quirity,
but the single tap on the numbers to get the letters.

(01:14:48):
You had to do that, and that took so long
to do a message, nobody was really doing it. But
then I would see the children of customers that I
was dealing with, and their children started sending ten thousand
text messages a month, then twenty thousand, and I've realized, Okay,
now this is getting out of the troll and it
kind of led into the social media world that we're

(01:15:09):
in right now. But I kind of want to just
point that out because I think that that is a
tool that is a lot of us may not realize
it because it does bring joy in some cases, and
it's very useful in the fact that you can stay
in contact with someone that's already around the world. So
that's great. But the people that don't have the best
intent use it to manipulate the minds of a lot

(01:15:32):
of people, and I think that's just a horrible thing. Now,
with that being said, we obviously need some sort of
healing in this moment. I know you use a term
called energy alchemy healing, Yes, So if you could translate
for people who don't understand that term what that means
in layman's terms, and then kind of unders help them understand,

(01:15:54):
you know, what they can do to kind of heal themselves. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
For me, energy alchemy is a term I came up
with because there are so many descriptions of energy work
and energy healing in our community now. In our society, reiki,
for instance, has become as ubiquitous a term for energy
healing as band aid is for adhesive bandages, right, But

(01:16:22):
it's not the only thing. And as I said, there
are many paths up this mountain. There are a million
types of different styles of energy work. There's shamanistic healing,
there's and even within the shamanistic community, there's you know,
infinite tribes and civilizations that have come up with different

(01:16:46):
types of healing. But really energy alchemy for me is
taking your heart and looking into another person's heart and
sending them love. And when you can get into a
highly energized emotional state such as love, gratitude, even forgiveness, joy, playfulness, encouragement,

(01:17:16):
things like that, When you can get in that state
and you're with someone who is in a lower state,
or who is suffering, or who is like even physically
or mentally ill, you literally can you're transmitting your vibrational
state out into the world with your focus. You can

(01:17:37):
send that from your heart, from your hands, from your
whole body if you want. You know, it depends on
how you like to visualize things. A lot of energy systems,
you know, use the hands like hands of light. I
just see the person as they truly are without their body.
I see them as a divine light being. And when

(01:18:00):
you are able to just peel away all of that
effluvia that covers up that package, then you can see
that they are just like you. They are you, they
are another you, and so to just consciously send love

(01:18:21):
with your thoughts if that's the easiest way for you
to you know, if you can't figure out how to
do that, see them, try to imagine them. Your imagination
is one of your greatest gifts. By the way, imagine
seeing them in a more appropriate or pleasing state. You know,

(01:18:46):
if they're suffering and they're in pain, literally imagine them
out of that state and doing something that they love.
If they're depressed, see them in your imagination as being
happy and whole and healthy. You don't have to stand
there and hold your hands over them and you recite
a whole bunch of mumbo jumbo. If that's your gem

(01:19:09):
and that keeps your focus on raising their vibrational state,
that's great. But really it's imagining tying into that other
person or that other society or that other situation and
seeing it, imagining it in your mind's eye as in

(01:19:30):
an improved state. And for me, that's what energy alchemy is.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
It is just.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Taking any type of modality that you might have heard
of or learned or gotten certified in and putting them
all together to do that one thing. Because what you
imagine you've created on some level, anything you can think of,

(01:19:57):
you've already created. So again I say watch your watch
your thoughts, because if you're afraid of monsters and all
you can think of is monsters, then you're going to
be starting it. You know, see some monsters, right, you'll
have evidence that there are monsters in the world. I

(01:20:20):
get that question a lot from people who you know,
want to go out in the field and have contact
with ets or with bigfoot or whatever, and yet I
tell them, you have to be in a high vibrational state,
conscious awareness. That's why we do a lot of different
practices together so that we can all get coherent and

(01:20:41):
feel really good. Because when you do, that's the frequency
that you're going to have that contact in. Those are
the beings that you're going to perceive. The lens of
your spacesuit's visor perceives life vibrationally. So if you have

(01:21:02):
been raised to only believe in you know that anything
that is supernatural as demonic, and you haven't broken that
belief system yet in yourself, and you aren't able to
raise yourself up to another maybe more open perspective that

(01:21:23):
life exists on an infinite spectrum and that there's just
as angelic beings out there as there are demonic and
you raise your vibrational your emotional state to something that
is one of joy or expectation of beauty or whatever.
That lower vibrational perception cannot exist in the same place

(01:21:45):
as the higher one. So they may be here, they're
all here in one place with you always, but you're
not going to experience them. What you will experience is
the beautiful, the good, the enlightening. So again it's all
up to the person.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
And you know, I was thinking as well, the flip
side to you know, having the ability to having controllers.
Essentially this hardwired into everyone's consciousness. And then I'm thinking
about as well. A lot of people talk about the
extraterrestrial presence waiting for humanity to ascend and raise their levels,

(01:22:26):
and I was thinking, Okay, how could that work? And
then I'm thinking about the way that you may walk
into a room full of people and you kind of
just feel the room out right, and maybe that's kind
of what they're doing, and maybe it's a sense that
they would be able to feel when the energy changes
here on Earth. Do you think that that's sort of

(01:22:47):
kind of what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
It is what's going on. And I'll tell you something.
Having LAD groups again for over fifty years doing skywatches
of every kind, and we're just just to the example
with ET contact. You take a group out into the field,
it's dark at night, and all they've really experienced are

(01:23:10):
much of what they've experienced about ETS is what they've
seen from Hollywood in magazines and stuff, you know, alien
invasion and they're going to eat your children, and their
grays are gonna do an anal inspection and all this stuff.
Even the bravest of souls, somewhere underneath there some of

(01:23:31):
that might still be in there. And so I have
to tell people it's really imperative that your expectation meets
your vibrational state so that you can have a great experience.
If it's lower and you're still afraid, you're probably not

(01:23:55):
going to perceive the same things or anything that everybody
in the group, even next to you, is going to perceive.
I've taken groups out there where they've not seen anything,
and everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Has also won't come let's right there at depth shactly.
We'll come back with more right after the break, guys,
right here spaced out radio the apouts radio shows getting
deep consciousness? Are we experiencing energy? Ship? Find out more
after the break? All right, we are clear and maybe

(01:24:35):
so secret. So aliens got no but whole I guess
I could say that, and I don't know, have no clue.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
There as many different aliens as there are humans. Maybe
some of them do, some of them don't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
TB D, tv D. Let's see, all right, guys, Questions, questions, questions,
let me see what we got so far. Let me
make sure these are apro appropriate for the show here.
Let's see. I can't do that. We can't do that,

(01:25:21):
and that's okay. Yeah, more questions, guys, if you have them,
what is your perspective on consciousness? You know? How will
we be your idea of raising vibrational levels? Guys? Now
you've delved into the conversation before, and we'd love to

(01:25:42):
know what you guys think about it. Let's see. Susan
Alloway says, dad's good to see you love.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I know, my goodness, I have missed her. She's been
off the radar for a few a few.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Months, true fact, I haven't seen her name and this
chat welcome. I appreciate you coming back here tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Susan Alloway, Susan Aloway, who has some of the most
incredible ET contact experiences of anybody I know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Yes, yes, totally aware, and that is a true fact
as well a quantum g day Dev's is a legend.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Oh thanks, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Let's see here, Amy w c agree with her. There
lots of aliens out there with plenty of personalities. A man,
it's a doubles sword, you know when you think about it,
because yes, social media it can go either way. It's

(01:26:54):
just what you subscribe to who's pushing the buttons. But
I think one positive thing I could say about it
is that it does allow you to pulse check the
rest of the world at once, just like right now
we all know we can and through social media we
realize that the entire world is affected in this moment,

(01:27:16):
same thing with all the other the COVID event, all
the other things we've been through. It does allow you
to take temperature check everyone else, which is pretty cool.
So I guess, you know, using it for the right
reasons is okay, But there's if you allow it to
negatively affect you. It will definitely do that. And like
we said earlier, just simply disconnecting, which is what I did.

(01:27:39):
It was magical and I felt so good. I felt
so good not checking on social media all the time.
It just felt really good.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
We forget what it feels like to just be a
real human after a while, you know, instead of attached
it at the brain basically to a cool little toy.
It is a cool little you know. Discernment and balance
is the key.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Yeah, And I know I've jumped down many rabbit holes
and next time I look up, three hours has passed.
And it's like, we only have twenty four hours in
a day. We only have probably sixteen waking hours, and
half of that time is spent doing work related things,
and twenty five percent of that is spent the family things.
So do you even really have three hours to spend

(01:28:34):
on social media like that? Really in a day? I
don't think.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
It's it's mind blowing when you break it down like that.
And I do have people, you know, track it in
my practice, because they a lot of them will come
to me and say, I'm just full of I can't
get rid of the anxiety, I have insomnia, I can't
my life is a mess, and I don't understand where

(01:28:59):
to start and I say, you know, start tracking what
you're doing, you know with your like social media, your
phone and everything. And Flat sixer, I think this guy
said it just now, moderation and all things right, it's
your phone isn't evil, social media isn't evil. But we

(01:29:21):
just need to be discerning and prioritize our time a
little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Now, that is facts. We've had about forty five seconds
left before we come back. Guys, thanks for putting more
questions in here. I do see those. We will be
asking those momentarily and let's see. Yeah, Flat sixer, that's

(01:29:47):
what I'm talking about. I swallowed this community, especially here
space out Radio. They always put great stuff in the chat.
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
I know you guys have the best audience. It's just amazing.
So well, they're very thought.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Provoking and fun too, definitely, so.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
I love coming on this show so much.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Facts Facts, guys. Debs is a regular here. She's part
of the family. You guys know that, and we always
need and want to have her to help raise or
the vibration. And we're coming back right now. Let's go
all right, everybody, welcome back. We're space Stout Radio to
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(01:30:28):
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shift this energy to some more positive and we're talking
about that and a lot more tonight. So if you
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(01:30:48):
As we get back into the conversation here, so I
did want to touch this as well before we jump
into the questions you have been and are? We actually
had Melissa Caine here a couple of weeks ago. If
you guys remember that show that's also the Archives, you
should go back and check that show out talking about

(01:31:10):
the Contact Modalities Expo. Right, so this is coming up
next year. It's just second second year attending this and
speaking at this. So if you wouldn't mind kind of
talk about, you know, your experience with the last year,
how you think people were affected, who attended, and let's

(01:31:31):
yeah kind of dive into that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Well, thank you for mentioning it, and again thank you
for having my bestie Melissa on the other day, because
she's amazing. She is a true tour de force in
the Contact Modalities community, and this expo was a brainchild
of hers. Right after every year for like the last

(01:31:56):
eight years, we've had a retreat where it first began
with us training people how to make contact, you know,
how to go out in the field and do cevibe basically.
And yet those of us who are teaching at that
retreat do it a little bit more comprehensively than most.

(01:32:16):
We do encourage people, you know, we get we teach
them about breathwork, meditation, yoga, all of this, you know,
enhancing your side gifts and heart coherencing all this stuff
before we ever go out in the field. So it's
really phenomenal. We always have great contact. And right after

(01:32:41):
the one two years ago, Melissa was you know, it
takes a couple of days to come down from all
that she was in meditation, and she got the idea
of having this expo within the next six months and
or you know, seven months, and I'm like, and she
ran it past me, and I'm like, dude, go for it.

(01:33:01):
But it's going to take you a couple of years
to put the first one together. It's just that's just
it's a huge undertaking and I don't even know where
you would start. And by golly, she just got on
it and got the best people to come. Jimmy Church
was our MC, he's our MC this year too. She

(01:33:21):
got Chris Bloodsoe to come. Kimberly Port, who's another bestie,
who's you know, our big contact favorite putting together Kundalini
yoga and breath work with contact Wendy Gallant who teaches
mind sight seeing beyond Eyes. They're just so many people
and I did. I think I did three different presentations

(01:33:45):
last year. I can't remember. It's such a blur. I
do a lot of stuff, a lot of speaking engagements.
But I was allowed to get on stage and do
a live quantum hypnosis session with a client of mine,
Jeanette Csario, and I had her go to the origins
of a stone hinge in front of a pat hall.

(01:34:07):
I mean, this thing sold out. It was amazing and
it was unbelievable what happened to the audience. Same thing
I did a star Teacher's channeling. I thought, maybe, you know,
ten or fifteen people would show up. It was the
whole conference room that we were in was packed. Wow,
probably one hundred people and they followed me around, you know,

(01:34:31):
for the rest of the day, asking questions because they
just couldn't get enough of it. And so this year
she's even doubled. I think the presentation. Sarah Breskman Cosme's
going to be there, Jimmy's going to be our MC again,
Chris will be there, doctor Diane Hennessy from the Telepathy tapes,

(01:34:52):
and Dahlia and Lee Do from the Telepathy tapes will
be there almost but all the Bloodsoe family will be
there doing SkyWatch, and it's just phenomenal. There's just so
many great people there. I can't I just can't even
express my gratitude enough for her birthing this thing, and

(01:35:17):
it's such an enormous task and such a huge financial
investment in everything, and yet it's pure magic. It is
just such pure magic. Drew was there last year and
he may have thought he didn't reach very many people
because there were so many presenters and the way it was,
you know, structured and everything, but people are still talking

(01:35:39):
to me about how he affected them. So it's an
amazing thing. I highly encourage people to go to the website.
It's just contact moodalitiesxpo dot com. There's an early bird
special right now till I think the end of December,
and you will be changed for life if you if

(01:36:01):
you go to this thing this year. I think you've
even got an older poster up right now. There's probably
twice as many speakers on there now that than there
are in that poster, and all writing people. I hope
you can come wrong. I just oh my god, it
would be so amazing. But these are the types of

(01:36:23):
things that we're talking about. Get together, even if you
can't make it to this one, get together with a
group of people who at least have the same questions
as you, or who have dabbled in different things than you,
and start sharing together and having experiences together. And as
you do, your group coherence and vibrational state, emotional state

(01:36:48):
will rise that ripples out and changes the world. It
makes you feel good and it makes the world feel better.
And the more of us who do this work more
finentially accelerated this flip from the negative to the positive
will be yeah and telling you it is happening. It's

(01:37:09):
happening really fast.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
I cannot keep up with the client load. I hate
to say the word load. The abundance of clients coming
to me now, and the abundance of people wanting me
to speak at their conferences and expos and retreats and
seminars now, because the energy is starting to snowball, and

(01:37:34):
it's not just happening for me, it's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
For all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Just do whatever your part is and enjoy and that's
the whole thing. Have some fun, play with it, Enjoy,
be curious, be like a little kid.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
You should you should walk it. I mean that's you know,
that's why children are more open to They have been
bogged down by this fake, fictional society that we live in,
and they're more open and curious. And yeah, you should
definitely walk into situations like that. And you said another
thing that I talked to Melissa about, which is, you know,
everybody does have a part to play. There's something everybody

(01:38:15):
can do, as small as it may be, as big
as it may be. And you know, she took it
upon herself to create a space where speakers could come
and spread this message and shift consciousness, and other people
could do the same thing. If you're out there, you
have the ability to put on a conference, do it.

(01:38:35):
If you have the ability to get a group together,
whether it's just in your neighborhood and your friend circle,
your family circle. All that stuff helps and it's definitely,
you know, it's inspiring. I would think to a lot
of people to who may just in this conversation say
you know what I could I should do something like that.

(01:38:57):
That's what we need and we need that around the world.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Right, Start your own book club, start a discussion group,
get a coffee chat together. You know, I highly encourage
people to do stuff both online but in person too.
If you can get together in person, it's so marvelous.
It's just so good to be human with a group
of people.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. And let me make sure
we get to a few of these audience questions here
they are stacking up. Appreciate the Stargazer for your support
there and love of the show. With that awesome superchat.
We also have Polly Rodoman stepping in and she's always
got great questions. She's asking you all humans have the

(01:39:41):
ability of telepathy? Is it in our genes or only in.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
Some of us?

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
All humans? In fact, I dare say all beings have
the ability have all of the PI gifts. The way
I describe it to people.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
In this place. You come into this place over and
over again to have different experiences, play different parts, and
for the most part, all of those PSI gifts telepathy,
you know, psychic abilities, telekinesis all that. It's kind of
the switchers are on the off or sleep position, so

(01:40:18):
that you can just have a regular human experience. But
coming in and doing all these different parts, eventually you
start to wake up. I call it your timing mechanism
goes off. Something stirs you to look for more. Maybe
you saw a video about telepathy and you're like, wow,

(01:40:39):
I had a couple of things happen to me like that.
Do I have telepathy? You do have telepathy, but everybody's
timing mechanism is different.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
If you're hearing this, if you're watching this right now,
your timing mechanism has gone off, and Polly, you're asking
that question, because maybe it's time for you to, you know,
turn your switchback on if it's not already on. I
have a feeling it is anyway, but it is in
our genes because our physical being is enmeshed with our

(01:41:16):
spiritual being, with our metaphysical being. So telepathy I like
to call it telempathy. By the way, it's not just
reading somebody's mind, it's getting the whole package their feelings
and everything. Telempathy is one of the greatest gifts we have,
and everybody has had some kind of evidence that they

(01:41:40):
have it, but the world tries to teach you that
you don't because the world wants you to be Those
who are running the world want you to feel small
and you know, dependent on authority to tell you what
to do instead of literally engaging in oneness with other beings.
So quick answer, Yes, you all have the ability of telepathy.

(01:42:06):
It is in your genes. It's also in your energy field,
and everybody can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
Awesome, awesome answer. We have Matt Gooka asking what is
the differences between consciousness and the soul.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Oh, that's a really good question, I believe, and this
is just my two cents worth. I believe consciousness is
kind of the overarching mechanism that I don't want to
say governs, but maybe guides the different aspects of itself,

(01:42:45):
the different iterations of itself, which would be the soul.
You know, different personalities, different souls, but all of them
are connected. They're like all of the cells in your
body are connected and make up your body, but they
all have different abilities and properties and purposes. Right, So

(01:43:06):
I think that's the difference between consciousness and the soul.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
The soul.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
Is consciousness, but it is one aspect of the consciousness.
One cell.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
All right, we have super crazy movie geek asking are
there extraterrestrials with negative energy? If yes, how should we
handle an encounter with them?

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Oh, it's a great question. I love when somebody asks
this question. I kind of hit on it earlier when
we were talking. But life exists on an eternal, infinite
spectrum from all the way to the very dark, negative harsh.
You know, whatever scary to the sublime to the divine,

(01:43:55):
what you experience in any encounter has more to do
with your own vibrational slash emotional state and how you
are sustaining that with how you are going who you're
going to encounter. Okay, So if you encounter something that

(01:44:18):
looks scary, but you have gotten past the place of
being fearful of anything because you know there really is
no death and there is no suffering. That's just kind
of a condition of this place, you know, to teach
you certain little things. Experiences and so forth. When you

(01:44:40):
get to that place, even the scariest looking dude coming
out of the weirdest looking craft won't frighten you. You'll
just be You'll be objective. And I think that's what
meditation does too. It allows you to become very practic
just in being the observer without being emotionally connected, without

(01:45:05):
being attached, I guess, and so I tell people again,
if you are afraid that a scary et is gonna,
you know, show up during a CE five, during a
contact event with a group, or on your own, then

(01:45:30):
one of two things will probably happen. Either you're not
going to perceive anything, because most extraterrestrials that I know
are you know, their higher level beings, and they don't
they don't want to harm you. They don't want to
do any harm by scaring you. But if you are
in a place of you know, kind of fear interrepidation,

(01:45:53):
you might perceive those guys who aren't as evolved, and
that will be your encounter. It's kind of like in
lucid dream work. You know, if you come across a
monster and you're lucid dream and you still believe that
monsters can hurt you, then you're going to turn into
having a nightmare and it might not be fun. But

(01:46:17):
in a lucid dream, if you know that monsters can't
hurt you because you're at a higher vibrational state than
a monster, then you can just send love to that
monster and transform them into something beautiful. And it's the
same in life. I see it all the time with people.
It can be speaking to somebody who is very angry

(01:46:39):
and very dare I say scary, and if I'm present
enough with them and high enough in my own vibrational
emotional state, and again, just imagine them changing shifting into
that higher level with me. They often do because they

(01:46:59):
feed off of fear or they feed off of your
reciprocated anger. And if you're not engaging, if you're just
observing and sending something higher, it changes shifts the energy.
Does that help?

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Definitely? Definitely great answer. We have one, two, three, four
questions left here, so we have human data eight asking
will the five G technology someday be used against the
hostile et?

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Depending on what frequency you're attached to, probably so, and
the hostile ets that are in that frequency will probably retaliate.
So if you don't want to be part of that,
get your vibrational state up and start doing something more
positive than thinking about hostile ets and five G technology
and all of its negative aspects.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Awesome. We have Amy WC asking do you deal with
the power of music? I cry at certain music and
I was kind of known that earlier too as well.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Yes, Rob, you were right on the money. Music is
one of the most powerful tools we have to shift
our vibrational state. I call it sound technology. You know,
any kind of music that you listen to play, create
in yoga, you know, chanting, humming, anything that deals with

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sound can literally shift your energetic state. So again you
have to watch your mind what kind of music are
you using? And we don't have time to get into
it tonight, but there are certain frequencies of music, of

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recorded and performed music, that can be very detrimental and
controlling of the masses, and we're finding out that that's
kind of been part of our scenario for a long time.
And there are certain frequencies that you can sing or
play music that will enhance your whole experience of life.

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So music is very powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
I agree As a musician myself, I totally agree. We
love light seven six ninety eight. Do you think the
increase of solar activity is activating or waking up our
hidden abilities?

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Absolutelye efsolutely it is. We are solar powered beings on
this planet, and our star is very powerful, and it
is sending some of the most powerful energy frequencies over
and over again to this planet in this time as

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we've ever in recorded history experienced. And then add to
that some of you know, some of the other stars
out there that are you know, we're receiving all this energy.
It's all data, it's all information, and it's not just
you know, there's a pretty light in the sky or
that makes my skin glow or that makes me feel warm.

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It's that's the carrier. The light is a carrier wave
for data, for information to help us evolve.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
So absolutely I do awesome stuff. And np Z two,
in which I think is presidential Zady is asking is
there a secret code to manifestation?

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
It's not so secret anymore. It's be happy, it's beloving,
it's be kind, it's be focused and consciously self aware
and real about what it is that you'd like to
manifest without being attached to the outcome, and being grateful
ahead of that manifestation. I know that sounds weird backwards,

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but if you can again use your biggest tool you've got,
your imagination, and imagine yourself already having manifested what you
want and be grateful for it, and feel that gratitude
and that happiness and that success in your bones over
and over and over again, and then start walking around
the world like you've already manifested it. It will show

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up in your life. And I can tell you that's
how I live my life. It is real. It is
so real. Ask Melissa how did she manifest that big
expo out of nothing in a couple of months? Holy cow,
If anybody's a manifestor, that girl.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
Is so awesome, awesome, And we have about two minutes
left her deadfish cheese spread saying, how do you measure
the vibration? I'm not sure what I'm vibrating that. I
think I may be at a one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
You know what, There's a great book that was written
several years ago by doctor David Hawkins called Power Versus Force,
And in that book is a chart that literally measures
the different vibrational states in the measurement of hurts and
the different vibrational states and how they correspond to your

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emotional states. So fear is always You can measure this
now with scientific instruments. When you're in a state of fear,
you're at this much this range of hurts. If you're
in joy, your way up here in this much faster,
moving higher vibrational range of hurts. And so I highly

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recommend you look into that book Power Versus Force. There's
a little chart and if any of you can't find
it or just want to reach out to me, I
have the chart. I can send it to you. It's
something you could just like paste up on your wall
and look at it, say, I don't know if I'm
in a good vibrational state or not to move to

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the next level, or you know how, what's the next
thing I need to do to feel better? Just going
up a couple of notches on that chart. With doing
some kind of something like you know, laughing or dancing
or something, you will switch your vibrational state, especially if

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you're at a one awesome stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
Dev ten seconds tell everybody where they can find you.

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Uh devshock d dot com is my website, d eb
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all my socials are at devshock d So I'm on
most social media platforms, my YouTube channels, deb shock d
so reach out any of those websites, the easiest one.

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Happy to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
All right, dev shockt. We love her. We're going to
have her very soon. See you, debs. Thanks for coming in.
Take care.

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Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
All right, everybody, welcome back spaced Out Radio app Downards
radio show. We're an aptour number three. I want to
think our guests, Dev shatty Hours one and two, guys,
you missed that obviously. Archives We're gonna have jampang our
three as we have Steve Stocktor tells until miss personal
Mysteries and Drew Banker with dats wrap up. Let's get
ready to start our three right about now. All right, everybody,

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welcome back Space style Radio to app ours radio show
with media host mister Rob g. We're gonna have an
awesome hour three. We had an awesome hour one and
two with our guest dep Shocky. We were talking consciousness.
Are we experiencing energyship? Because we definitely are. We need
to raise the vibration. I think we did that tonight.
Do you miss any of that conversation? Jumping the archives

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absolutely free YouTube dot com forgo slash of space Stout
Radio as we get ready to jump into a little
bit of Steve stock Intel's untold missing person mysteries once again,
we appreciate Steve Stocktor for being a part of the
show and we're gonna jump right on into it just
like that.

Speaker 4 (02:00:40):
Welcome to Tales, Untold and Missing Person's Mysteries on spaced
Out Radios after Hours. My name is Steve Stockton and
I'm here to take you on a journey of mysteries,
legends and true stories. Come join me on this strange
adventure of tales, untold and missing person mysteries. Charles Ashmore

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lived in the town of Troy in New York State,
United States, with his wife, mother and minors, son who
was sixteen years old, and his two adult daughters. Now,
the family was very wealthy and respectable members of their community,
being on who you ask. Either in the year eighteen
seventy one or eighteen seventy two, the Ashmore's moved from Troy,

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New York to Richmond, Indiana, and two years later Charles
bought a farm in nearby Quincy, which he and his
family settled on. Right next to their farmhouse, there was
a creek which brought the family their fresh, cold spring
water no matter what the season. Around nine o'clock on
this particularly evening in the night of November ninth, eighteen
seventy eight, while the family all sat by the fire

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after supper, either conversing or possibly reading a book as
a family or some type of entertainment that happened in
the late eighteen hundreds, Charles Ashmore Junior got up from
the fire and for the he was going to fetch
himself a bit of water from the creek. He grabbed
a clean tin can from the kitchen and walked.

Speaker 1 (02:02:06):
Out of the house.

Speaker 4 (02:02:09):
After waiting a very long time for the younger Charles
to return from the stream, the elder Charles, his father,
took the oldest daughter, Martha with him little lantern, and
went off in search of the young man. It was
early November and the light snow had fallen outside, and
though it lent greatly to the terrible cold, both Martha
and Charles Senior felt right down to their very bones,

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it didn't deter them. It seemed the snow was a
blessing in disguise, however, as in its light dusting all
along the ground it formed a path, a path which
showed the footprints of sixteen year old Charles Ashmore Junior.
Father and daughter team dutifully followed the path the entire time,
calling out the young man's name, Bauldon o vail as

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there was no returned response, and the tracks led to nowhere.
Literally they led nowhere. The footprints of the young Charles
Ashmore Junior stopped in the middle of the way from
the house to the stream. Snow was undisturbed. After they
had walked about seventy five feet halfway from their front door,

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to the creek where they got their water. Now, as
this came to the father's attention, he silenced his daughter
and calmly held out his lantern. Into the darkness of
the night, they decided to walk around the last few
footprints in order, if nothing else would preserve them further investigation.
They could only imagine the stars shine as bright as
they can only laid at night on a farm out

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in the middle of nowhere, full of fresh air, a
sky as dark as an abyss. They made their way
around these footprints and then onto the creek. Now as
they approached the creek, it said that all the strength
was immediately drained from young Martha Ashmore, and the same
can be said for the air in her father's lungs
when they chanced upon what they saw next. The creek

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was frozen over and had been for some time. It
was covered even by the fresh snow that was falling
from the frigid coal skies above. There was no sign
that the younger Ashmore male had been there. There was
no evidence that anyone had been there, in fact, at
least not since the creek had frozen and the snow
had started to fall. The next morning brought with it

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not only the warmth of the sun, but also more
heartbreak to an already devastated mother and confused family. There
had still been no sign or word from the family's
only son.

Speaker 1 (02:04:29):
Hours later.

Speaker 4 (02:04:31):
It's like he was here one minute, he went to
get water, and then poof gone. Four days passed and
nothing had changed except the melting of the snow. There's ashmore.
Charles Junior's mother had went to the creek to fetch
herself some water. No one was around at that time
to get it for as they had been previously, she
had been hesitant to leave the house and go near

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her son had gone missing today, though it was unavoidable
if she wanted to drink. But the closer she got
to the creek, the faster her heart began to beat.
About halfway there, in fact, right around the same area
where the last footprints of her son were seen, even
though they had been washed away by the elements of

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the melting snow, she began to hear Charles Junior's voice
calling for help as sure as a mother could be,
not just of what she was hearing, but of what
she was feeling as well. Her mother's intuition, you might
call it she was sure of it. Her son was
right there near the creek, and though she couldn't yet

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see him, she could hear him very well call you
out for help. It seemed, however, that the closer she
got to the creek, the stranger things became, and she
called out to her son again and again, and then
silenced herself to listen from which direction's christ were coming from.
It suddenly seemed like they were coming from everywhere, all

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at once, but somehow also from nowhere, as she still
couldn't not a single sign of him.

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
Finally, the woman ran.

Speaker 4 (02:06:04):
Home as fast her legs could carry her wait for
her husband to get home so she could tell him
what she'd heard. Now, she was obviously very confused and nervous.
After all, she had just heard the voice of her
son calling to her for help. It couldn't figure out
where the voice was coming from. Actually, was he calling
for help? Was he there at all? One question later

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on about what she'd heard and experienced, all of which
was chalked up to a delirious woman, unfortunately a common
diagnosis at the time. This was a mother who was
so heartbroken over the loss of her only son and
youngest child that she had gone momentarily mad, hallucinating that
she had heard him calling to her.

Speaker 6 (02:06:44):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:06:44):
This opinion was further backed up, at least by some
as when she was asked what she heard, she exclaimed
that she wasn't sure of what her son was actually saying,
other than that he was actually calling for She had
stated that his words were entirely clear, she heard them
as though he were standing right next to her, Yet

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she also remembered not understanding what those words were. Strangely,
was something supernatural going on here.

Speaker 1 (02:07:16):
Now?

Speaker 4 (02:07:16):
In the next few months, with no discernible pattern, other
members of the family would at random times hear the
voice of young Charles Ashmore Junior calling out for help.
Though the voice always seemed to be coming near the
creek where he had seemingly disappeared. The closer they got
to the voice, the farther way it seemed to move, until,
by all appearances, it blinked right out of existence. Again,

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this fellow in line with what the mother claimed of experience.
One thing each person in the family who heard the
voice knew for absolute certain, however, is that the voice
they were hearing was definitely that of the younger Ashmore,
and again no one was ever able to repeat what
he had said, for though they claim his voice was

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so clear it was as if he were standing right there,
at the same time, it had still been too far
away for them to understand the words. Even if he
had been giving directions to his family, his family wasn't
able to comprehend them. No, this sounds strange. Sounds of help.
Calling from the creek went on intermittently through the rest

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of the winter and spring, and would seemingly pick a
family member at random to experience this and hear these
words come somewhere, though the calling voice seemed to come
at further and further intervals, until finally, at the point
of around about a year later, it stopped altogether. Charles

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Ashmore Junior was never seen or heard from again, and
no one was ever able to say exactly what had
happened to him. No one even had a reasonable idea
as to who or what the culprit could have been,
so there was no choice but for the family to
move on with a devastating loss not only to their
family unit, but to their very arts and souls. Now

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in the magazine Fate in June of nineteen fifty three,
a very similar disappearance story was published. Depending on who
you ask, you'll hear people swear to the truth of
the legend, and still others will attest the story has
been thoroughly debunked. Whatever you choose to believe about what
happened to David Lang and his family, whether it be

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a well written story which originated in the late eighteen hundreds,
or a true account of something that really happened to
a man in the same time period, I hope we
can all certainly agree we are hearing more and more
true stories just like this in modern times. In Fate magazine,
the article was called how My Father Disappeared and was

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allegedly taken straight from an interview with the daughter of
the man who was said to have vanished into thin air.
She was a witness to the strange happenings day in
the days to come. Her name was Sarah Lang, and
the story of her father disappearing midstep, right in front
of her very eyes, is one of legend, whether true
or not. This is what she allegedly told the journalists

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interviewing her. On September twenty third, eighteen eighty, a farmer
named David Lang was walking through a field not far
from his house. His two young children, George and the
aforementioned Sarah, laid in the courtyard between where their mother
his wife stood on the porch and where he their
father was walking in the field. Right at this moment

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in time, two men, a lawyer named Judge August Beck
and his brother in law whose name has since been lost,
in the midst of diamond retelling, were approaching the house
in a horse drawn vehicle all at once. David Lang's
wife dropped what she had in her hands and screamed,
while the two men in the buggy stopped, open mouthed
and astonished at what they'd just seen. Children also frozen,

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shock and terror. Right before no fewer than five sets
of eyes which were almost exclusively on him, David Lang
disappeared into thin air in midstep, right off the face
of the earth. Despite their having a very intense search,
no trace of him was ever found. There were no holes,
no wells, no place that a man could have disappeared. However,

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it said, for years after this unexplained and terrifying incident,
the family, the children in particular, would hear the voice
of their father calling out for help, though his words
seemed to be clear, they were indiscernible, and the children,
nor anyone else who heard these intermitt in christ could
ever make out exactly what David was trying to say.

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A few years later, a circle with a diameter of
about fifteen feet appeared, seemingly out of nowhere, on the
exact same spot where David is said to take his
last steps here on earth as we know it. He
was never seen again, and just as quickly as the
voices already manifesting, they abruptly stopped, and he was never
heard from again either. Some people believe that the inability

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to corroborate any details in the Lying story is the
reason so many still considered to be just a retelling
of an old fiction story written by popular author Ambrose
Beers back in the day. While the story itself is unreliable,
with no record even of a David Lying or a
Judge Pack anywhere in the County of Sumner, the similarities
in the above cases is undeniable, however, and the Ashmorees

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did exist, and young Christian did go missing. It's a
matter of historical record as far as the details, though
who knows. So can each of these men have crossed,
perhaps into an alternate dimension. Is this why their voices
were seemingly heard right in front of multiple witnesses as
clear as day at first, until they finally couldn't be

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heard anymore or understood. It's hard to disassemble facts and
evidence in cases which took place so long ago. Any
witnesses have long since perished, and records had a way
of being destroyed throughout history, purposely or not. Example, in
the Finterest County where my father is from, the courthouse
was burned during the Civil War, with lots of marriage

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and death records and tax records and deeds perishing with
the fire, so in those cases there's nothing left for
posterity before the Civil War. As bizarre as it is
for someone to seemingly vanish without a trace, it's even
more strange and even somewhat terrifying, especially to those of
us in the paranormal community or some haught aware and

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think we may have some answers or at least theories
as to what's happening in some of these cases.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
For this to happen to.

Speaker 4 (02:13:42):
Someone in clear and full view of other people, not
only does it seem in most of these cases that
the person couldn't have possibly gotten far, but it's absolutely
impossible for them to have gone anywhere without someone else
seeing where they went. As we on this, I'll know
and have come to understand. This seems to happen a lot.

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Many cases been sprouting up in recent years as well,
leading us to try and come up with our own conclusions, hypothesis,
and even just our own opinions as to what in
the world is happening, not only here but other places
in the world. If it's in fact in this world
and not some sort of alternate reality, where are these
people going? To like to close now? One of the

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earliest and most well known accounts of what I like
to call unconscious extinction. In the late seventeen sixties, in
a small English town named Shepton Mallet, there lived a
man in his late seventies who, by all accounts, was
crippled with an unknown disease. He was a retired farmer

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and his name was Owen Parfitt. Owen was completely unable
to get around without help, and usually this help was
given to him by his elderly sister, who was also
his primary caregiver. Now, this unnamed sister apparently was a
very good caregiver and seemed to all who knew her
to love her brother very much and who took much
joy in caring for him.

Speaker 6 (02:15:10):
So.

Speaker 4 (02:15:11):
Because of his disability and inability to do anything on
his own, Owen spent most of his day's bed ridden,
but some were actually spent with him enjoying one of
his favorite pastimes. He simply loved to sit outside by
the doorway of his home, which he shared with his sister.
One very chilly and possibly rainy day, Owen was sitting
with a light jacket draped over him in his usual

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spot by the door outside of his house, while his sister,
slash caregiver, was keeping a sporadic eye on him while
also trying to get some chores around the house accomplished.
Owen's sister went outside to bring him inside for lunch,
but what she found was an empty chair with the
jacket draped over it. At first, Owen's sister thought perhaps

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a neighbor had happened by and saw one who maybe
asked to be brought in, and maybe shan't and heard
him calling her. You see, Owen was entirely unable to
move around on his own, so it would never have
occurred to her that that's what he did. She searched
the entire house, all the surrounding property, and then asked
the neighbors, but to no avail. Owen was nowhere to

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be found and no one had seen him. The neighbors
did confirm that they had seen no one sitting in
his usual spot by the door in front of the
house all day long, just as his sister had said.
They had seen the light jacket draped over him as well.
Although an investigation was conducted by the authorities of the time,
this day, no trace of Evan Parfitt has ever been found.

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And where did this man go? He wasn't able to
move on his own. People observed him sitting on his
porch with a jacket on, and then in the tinkle
of an eye, jacket's there. Evan's gone, never to be
seen again. Very strange. Indeed, Well there you have it.

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What do you make of these strange historical cases of
people going missing from farms some almost two hundred years ago.
I'd love to hear your comments and opinions, but I
do remind you to please be respectful to the opinions
of others.

Speaker 1 (02:17:16):
Till we meet again.

Speaker 4 (02:17:18):
I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to you next.

Speaker 1 (02:17:21):
Time, all right, Steve Stockton Tales Untold Mister person mysteries
once again, captivating, captivating tales of those who have gone missing,
real stories as well. These are people who are actually
missing and shout out to all their families, prayers, healing, energies,

(02:17:42):
all that good stuff. As we go ahead and get
ready to move on in the show and get into
the after hours wrap up with none other than your guy,
Drew bank Let's go.

Speaker 4 (02:17:57):
Monster head, I'm gonna eat get in my.

Speaker 1 (02:18:01):
Building, Drew Drew Drew Ski Banky with the half hours

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wrap up, joining us here tonight. What's going on, Drew?
How you been buddy? Help me? Oh me?

Speaker 9 (02:18:33):
Wasn't that the creepiest thing?

Speaker 1 (02:18:35):
Dude?

Speaker 9 (02:18:36):
I was setting here.

Speaker 7 (02:18:37):
I was like, I was putting in the chat, but
I was literally thinking. I was like, Steve, please don't
put another help me in there. Man, I cannot stand.
I couldn't take setting in in this office load. It's
just man, that made the hair my hair stand up,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:18:56):
Yeah, it did the same for me too. As I'm
in an office building. I'm in office building doing this show.
No one else is here, huge building and it's just
me And so yeah, hearing that is definitely creepy. Shout
out to Steve Stockt always he just brings it. He
brings it every time, and so you know we had that. Yeah,

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go ahead.

Speaker 7 (02:19:19):
No, the first one, I looked around, I was like, man,
was that was that on the air or did I
hear that in here?

Speaker 1 (02:19:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:19:26):
I was like, oh man, it's crazy. But that's then
the second one, but yeah, great, guess dev shock T
man lover and was talking about her last appearance at
Contact Modelli's expo. I got the set in one of
those presentations and it was a full room like she

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did like a live channeling in front of and took
questions from the crowd for a while, like while while
she was while.

Speaker 1 (02:19:58):
She was channeling.

Speaker 7 (02:19:59):
So it was it was a sight to be seen.
So yeah, go go check her out if you have
a chance around the Midwest. I think it's the beginning
of May and go check her out for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
And you know, it's always awesome having Debs on and
I just I just love her, you know, it's it's
it's when you have people. We need more people like
devs in the world. We need more people like devs.
You know, speaking out and kind of altering the energy
state and when we say energy as she said, had

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her translate that for those who don't really understand energy
as we use it and it's emotional emotional state, and know,
it is great for her to go ahead and kind
of put it that way because that definitely translates to
everyone out there, so you can fully kind of understand,
you know, and maybe have a different perspective on the

(02:20:54):
whole consciousness thing. And uh, because I think a lot
of that stuff gets lost in translation, because I know
when I first, you know, came in to understanding what
consciousness was, it was it was foreign to me. Like
a lot of the terms in terminology was foreign to me,
and it took me time to kind of go through

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the process of learning what these phrases and things meant
before I was fully connected to it. And like, oh, okay,
so I think we you know, it's definitely a service
with not just consciousness, but really a lot of the
stuff that we use in this community is jargon should
be translated in a way that the average person can
kind of take it all in.

Speaker 9 (02:21:37):
Yeah, for sure, I mean it's I mean, it's all,
it all happens.

Speaker 7 (02:21:41):
As its own patient. And I remember, you know me,
and you've been doing interviews even long before I was
a regular here on the show, So I remember some
of our first conversations were you know, didn't get as
deep as they they nearly as deep as they now.
So the growth just in in everybody is just at

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their own pace and it happens at their own time,
and you have to you have to accept, uh, you know,
the timeline that's set forth for whatever is to happen,
you know, and that's that's where patience comes in and
all the other lessons. But everything has multiple lessons, like
as you're going through it and this you know, digesting

(02:22:25):
what's going on right now in the consciousness field. Deb
Shokti has a way of articulating it that a lot
of people can digest. And I think it's that's it's
a great quality, you know, uh, just on top of
everything else that she does, the way that she can
articulate things is a real gift. So and the way

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she can reach people is really special and and I
think that it only shows by how many you know her,
you know, her client list and people that she's helping
keeps growing, growing, and that that goes to show and
you know, just in the back end of what I
just what I just said, so.

Speaker 1 (02:23:10):
And the whole goal of this is to show, you know,
the world that hasn't connected to this idea of the
phenomena and the moment that we're in to kind of
bridge it and show that these conversations are you know,
as far as what we understand is who we are

(02:23:32):
as human beings like this, this is what it's all about. Really,
It's not about the stuff we're seeing on TV. It's
not about you know, the trivial things that we deal
with day to day that are manufactured by the societies
we live in. This is the real conversation that we
should be having and we should be focusing on just

(02:23:52):
as human beings period. Like, let's start here. This is
our base, and I'm always approaching things that way, but
this is our base, and then let's grow from here.
Ten seconds. If you want to go ahead say something, No, I.

Speaker 7 (02:24:07):
Think this is kind of segue, you know, into what
we're gonna be talking about tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:24:13):
Yeah, definitely big stuff coming on the way. We're gonna
go ahead and take our final break of the night
right here on spaced Out Radio the After Hours Radio
Show with the after Hours wrap up with Drew Banking
that guy right there talking consciousness, healing energies in a
time where we really need it. You know, we're experiencing
energy shift, hopefully for the better. Let's manifest it, let's

(02:24:35):
make it happen. We'll be back right after the break.
Spaced Out Radio, After Hours Radio Show. See you in
five minutes. If you leave, come right back. All right,
we are clear, clear and let's see. I guess it

(02:25:00):
says Drew is cool. He's chip Away also save as me.
You know what that means. I don't know school me.

Speaker 9 (02:25:08):
I don't know about I don't know about chip Away,
but I appreciate it. The cool. I think I'm cool. Man.
I try to be cool, try to be a good person.

Speaker 1 (02:25:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's where it all starts from. Man's that's
where it all starts from. And I try to talk
to some people about that. They just don't get it.
I'm like, you get taught that, And you know, that's
one good thing I could say about this machine they
put you in, is that you're taught. And I don't
know who implemented this rule or the this I guess rule,

(02:25:38):
uh talking about the Golden rule, right, treat others the
way you want to be treated, which is like, okay,
so you were taught that. Do you forget it at
some point during your life or are you just so
overburdened and you know, exposed to all these different things
that it is not the first thing on your mind.
But I try to remind people like, hey, you were

(02:26:00):
taught to treat others the way you want to be treated.
That's on a basic human level. And if we just
lived by that, if if that was like first, then
we we probably have a lot more positive stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
Then.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:26:17):
Yeah, no, I I totally agree. I think it's uh,
you know, we're we're all connected. I think we're we're
starting to figure that out. I think it's you know,
not becoming ideas anymore. And you know, like I said before,
the idea of oneness like that I've been shown like
in deep meditation with and without psychedelics, you know, and

(02:26:40):
in dream states that the connectedness so eventually wire Fellow
on my leg, scaredy sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:26:51):
Steve's got me on edge man.

Speaker 7 (02:26:55):
No, But the the oneness that uh, the oneess that
everyone that you get to like in meditation, psychedelic ceremonies,
dream states and stuff like that, that these keeps coming
to you. Eventually it doesn't because it's not idea anymore.

Speaker 9 (02:27:11):
It becomes like.

Speaker 7 (02:27:13):
You're like a truth and it's a it's a deep
truth for me. So, you know, not every interaction, I
can remind myself that what I'm interacting with is a
part of me and vice versa. You know what, you know,
when I'm interacting with my kids, I can I can
definitely see the lessons and similarities and the mere aspect

(02:27:34):
of creation and the oneness aspect when dealing with my kids,
and lessons and uh overcoming and lessons from like when
I was a kid and cutting uh like like stopping
like generational trauma things like that. But the overall the
oneness aspect is a truth for me, and I guess

(02:27:56):
what I'm trying to get out. When you get to
that that point, every your interactions just change because you
realize you're interacting with your interacting in a cosmic field
that has has what some might have caught say called
karma good and bad. You know, it has both positive
and negative energy. Cut karma can be good too, like

(02:28:18):
it comes back around like karma. But that's the state
we you know, that duality state we live in. And
uh Debs touched on that, like we will release the
duality lesson eventually, Like we will move past that eventually
and in our creation story maybe not maybe not anytime soon,

(02:28:39):
but that it is written in our path that we
will release that at one time. It's we have to
overcome it to move forward. But you know that that
fades away when you understand everything around you is one,
like it's all part of you, and everything is sacred,
even even the stuff you might consider because at one

(02:29:01):
point in your life something might have happened to you,
and then later on in life, your perception to that
point might have changed. You may have you may have
perceived as bad at one point, and then your perception
changes and it's something really good, you know, after you
grow and and look at it from a different perspective
after five ten years or whatever, and look at that

(02:29:23):
situation from a different perspective, you can see a lesson
in it.

Speaker 1 (02:29:26):
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(02:30:08):
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because we were experiencing times where consciousness needs to be raised.
So awesome stuff there. Ours wanted to comp an on
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(02:30:31):
ski quickly if you wouldn't mind just kind of because
you know, we hand the conversation with Debs and she's
just a master at this. She's gone to school for
this hypnotherapy and she's definitely well versed in this. Now
just from your perspective in the you know the lane
that you're in because I know you're into like the

(02:30:52):
the psychedelics and all these different types of things. How
does energy play into that? And you know, if you
were coming from where you're at your lane, talk about
what someone could do to raise their frequency?

Speaker 9 (02:31:09):
Well, you know, ground.

Speaker 7 (02:31:12):
Ground sungaze in the mornings, you know ground like uh
you know, put your feet on the ground, you know,
take your shoes off and and stand barefoot on the ground,
watch the sunrise, watch the sunset, and you know, look
at the look at the roar borealis. When you get
a chance, things like that. Just look look at the

(02:31:33):
stars even you know, just because when you look when
you're when you're grounded to mother, it's you're and Lakota's
a maca. So I'm going through this, uh bait, going
through this process and learning Lakota. So so when you're

(02:31:54):
when your feet are grounded on the earth and you're
looking up at the sky, no matter what it's the
sun or the stars or anything, your mind starts to
expand because you're looking at everything and it starts to
like wonder like how many man, how many? It starts
like how many stars are out there? Like the infantoun
stars and then you start see maybe she has shooting
stars something like that, and then your mind it's it helps,

(02:32:17):
it helps with your consciousness. But when you're grounded on
the earth, that's that's the most simplest thing that I
that I can say. Get in touch with your breath,
do breath work, you know, and these are all these
are all things like outside of psychedelics. Obviously psychedelics like
you can go to retreat or microdose things like that,
but all these other things like it's free and it's

(02:32:39):
for anybody to it for anybody to do, and it's
but it's just connect back to that, you know, connect
back to the wind blowing while you're looking up and
connected and.

Speaker 9 (02:32:53):
You know, seeing how it's connected to your breath.

Speaker 7 (02:32:55):
Like I've been in meditation before, like it just been
out and just been hiking and just set down and
not really doing intentional meditation, but just meditating, just setting
there of you know, trying to catch my breath, like
going up the mountain, like trying to catch my breath
setting down on a log or something like that, and
then recognizing that it seems like the wind blowing back

(02:33:19):
and forth almost connects with my breath and just you know,
connecting with nature in that way. Go on a hike,
you know, if but just do something to connect back
to nature. Like I said before, start to grow a
plant in your window seal, grow a tomato plant and
eat that, eat that tomato from there, or any vegetable

(02:33:43):
you know, or grow a garden however big you can
make it like, but you can start off with just
something in your window seal, even onions you can just
and put into your your tacos, anything anything like that
that you can food that you can grow. And then
in jest from growing, it's you're taking part in one

(02:34:05):
of the very first ceremonies that human beings ever took
part in. Before we ever started doing sacred ceremonies. We
we was growing your own food and surviving. The sacred
ceremonies and stuff came after this after we got a
survival mode. So the one of the very first ceremonies
that we took part in is growing your own food

(02:34:25):
and sustaining ourselves. And that's you're connecting back to one
of the most sacred one of the most sacred ceremonies
there is, and it's it's about our survival you know,
to get day by day, you know, pray to water,
you know, drink water. You can if you understand about
doctor Emoto, well I've talked about several times on the show.

(02:34:47):
You can infuse water with your thoughts and prayers. You
can take a glass of water and do it yourself.
Each and every one of us has these abilities. And
you can pray over your own water and drink that
and heal yourself with that water.

Speaker 1 (02:35:00):
Yeah, and I get it. And you know, I'll just
say I hate onions. Raw onions, So onions on your
tacos sounds really nasty to me. But I do get
what you're saying. You're talking about, you know, going back
to your natural state and just something simple. Just I
imagined as you were saying that grounding yourself and just

(02:35:21):
kind of just taking your shoes off and the feeling
that you feel and you're walking through the grass and
how you feel connected. You feel definitely different than if
you kept your shoes on, right, You feel just totally different.
So just mentally, it's a thing, and it's definitely I
could see how that, you know, could definitely alter your
energy state. Get frustrated or get upset, negative energy coming

(02:35:44):
on you go outside and run your feet through the grass,
look up at the sky, reconnect back to your natural state.
And I think really for human beings that's sort of
probably what we should be doing a lot of because we,
as I always say here on the show, it seems
like we're moving further and further away from our natural state.

(02:36:04):
Everything else that we see around us, all the animals
and all the other life here on earth, is connected
to nature still directly that we're like the only ones
that aren't. And it's weird because we think it's a
good thing and it's not really a good thing. And
that's why I always it's once again, sound like broke
a record, but the aerial school sighting is where they

(02:36:26):
told the kids technology is bad, and to me that
translates as go back to your natural state, dude, Like
going this way scene might seem cool in the moment,
but it's actually you know, hurting who you guys are
as human beings.

Speaker 7 (02:36:42):
Yeah, you know, Uh, water is very powerful too, you know,
if you if you're close to if you're close to
the ocean, go put your feet in the ocean, you know,
and close your eyes and just visualize, you know, the
water cleansing your your aura and cleansing. It's it's mostly
about placebo effect. Like I tell one of my epiphanies

(02:37:04):
one time, I was like, man, everything is placeive, but
like it's it's one hundred percent placebo effect like everything,
because it's it's all about your you know, your mind.
But when you when you couple it with like water,
things like that. If you know, if you're by a river,
you know, you know, being here in Colorado, we have
you know, really close like within almost walking distance from

(02:37:26):
my house now. Well actually in the backyard, I gotta
creek that I can just go walk down in the
water flows through and just I can just imagine like
it taking my negative energy out and bringing the positive
negative the positive energy in. It's water, you know, it's
it's life, but it's also used We also use it
for showers and cleansing. So it's it's life, but it's

(02:37:48):
also can cleanse us. This is a ritual I've been
doing for a part of the past five years. Before
every podcast like tonight and any any interview I've ever
done or anything like that, I always take a shower beforehand,
and I close my eyes as the water's going over
me and really and really ask the water to help

(02:38:10):
me cleanse off anything and like bring in whatever I
need to talk about that night or whatever is supposed
to be talked about that night, help help influence that.
But it's a ritual that I do before every podcast.
I've done it for almost five you know, pretty much
for the past five six years or whatever it's been.

Speaker 1 (02:38:30):
You know, I had, I sat down and had a
conversation with my youngest, my little sister last night my
mother came into town, my mother and my sister passing
through going to Vegas, and we sat down and I
found out, you know, that she is really into this
natural healing stuff, and uh, you know, I just but

(02:38:52):
she also keeps a balance with obviously modern medical healing,
because you can't just depend on the one. I don't think.
I think you have to balance both. So it was
cool to see that she had a perspective like that
and she was able to speak to it. And it's just,
you know, I think that whole natural thing is just
something that we should go back to, like just as

(02:39:15):
you stated the things that you stated, but finding other
ways also, you know, on your own, things that allow
you to reconnect with with nature, you know, like for me,
going out into the woods isn't for me really right,
but other things might be right. There's other ways to
reconnect back to nature. But I think it's just very important.

(02:39:36):
And then another thing, as we talked about, which is
really we had why we had to really bring Debs
in now, is because the energy is so low. Dude,
on this planet right now is just crazy, depressingly crazy
when you look around and see all this torrible things.
But I feel like, as I said earlier, I feel

(02:39:57):
like it's something we need to go through, Like we
have to go through this, and I'm glad that we're
going through this, as crazy as that sounds, because it's painful,
but it's it's like, you know, we're gonna come out
on the other side of this, so ready for that
next level. Like everyone at one time is going to
come out of this and be ready to just see,

(02:40:19):
you know, see better times and have better experiences. So
I think we were going to definitely grow as one,
you know, humanity as one through going through what we're
going through right now.

Speaker 7 (02:40:32):
Yeah, it's you know, it's like the anxiety that you
had when you're about to get your tooth pulled you know,
and this is this is anxiety leading up to that, and.

Speaker 9 (02:40:43):
It's gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (02:40:44):
And when after it's over, you're we're gonna look back
and like, oh that isn't hurts so bad. Like it's
just right now, it seems like it seems like everything's
going crazy. But like I said, it's it's all about perception.
Like from where where I sat and my perception of it,
it's all unfolding very quickly and and more beautifully than

(02:41:10):
I could have written it. So it's, uh, it's it's happening.

Speaker 9 (02:41:15):
I see a very.

Speaker 7 (02:41:16):
Beautiful thing occurring right now.

Speaker 9 (02:41:18):
So yeah, there's that. There's a lot of crazy things
going on.

Speaker 7 (02:41:24):
You know, Epstein Files coming out soon, you know, this
Age Disclosure. It's all lining up, and uh, I wanted
to put out before before I get off here, that
for the panel tomorrow, if you wanna, if you really
want to get deep into it, I'm going to bring
up some talking points that he that the director talked

(02:41:45):
about on Joe Rogan that are very interesting that didn't
come up in the show. But tomorrow is going to
be a very interesting conversation and it's gonna it's gonna
lead it's kind of leave it's kind of leave off
on consciousness.

Speaker 1 (02:42:00):
Yeah, that is that is awesome. It's definitely gonna be
a great show tomorrow. You guys to make sure you
tune in for that. But yeah, you know, I think
we're being set up for, uh, for success here. I think, uh.
I think when we come out of this, we're gonna
come out very shiny, like a shiny new penny. And

(02:42:21):
I just thought of that right now, about a shiny
new penny. I'm just envisioning that we're gonna come out clean.

Speaker 7 (02:42:26):
On the other side, they just discontinued pennies.

Speaker 1 (02:42:29):
Dude, don't even take me there. Don't even take me there, man.

Speaker 9 (02:42:34):
But no, So just a little teaser.

Speaker 7 (02:42:38):
I was watching, I watched, I watched the Agent Disclosure,
and I was watching afterwards. I watched the interview he
did on Rogan and he's so in the middle of it.

Speaker 9 (02:42:51):
I'm like, screw up.

Speaker 7 (02:42:52):
I was sitting there watching my wife. I was like,
I'm gonna send. I'm gonna find whatever social that he's
still his message is still open on I'm on signing
a message, so I send a director of a message.
I was like, hey, let if you want to explore
what happens to people after contact, like what abilities come,

(02:43:12):
like special abilities come after contact, like consciousness and you know,
telekinesis what we're talking about earlier, like I can I can,
you know, show you in person. I can prove it
in person, like how to affect matter with words and thoughts.
And I firmly believe it has a direct connection back

(02:43:34):
to my experience in twenty eighteen year Chocolate Canyon, face
to face and counter. So I sent him that message
and like fifteen minutes later in the interview, he talks
about the next the next doc that's going to come
out is going to start delving into abilities that people

(02:43:54):
have after they've had contact. It's like exactly what I've
just my messaged. And so that's a little teaser about
tomorrow and we'll get more into it. I definitely will
be talking more about tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:44:06):
Awesome stuff, Awesome stuff. So that's a preview for tomorrow's show. Guys,
make sure you're here for that, make sure you go
out and watch the documentary. And I feel like I'm
selling it, and I don't really want it to come
across that way. I'm not really selling this, but I
think there's still an important conversation that we need to
have and whatever means you have, whether you go over

(02:44:26):
your friend's house who rended it, watch it there. I'm
not telling everybody go out and buy it or rent
it or spend your money on it. But I definitely
think that we, you know, all of this is going
to lead to some sort of climactic point in twenty
twenty six. I think we're ending the year off with
something that's supposedly really good and you know, a lot

(02:44:49):
of important, pertinent information included in that, and then we
have a lot of things on the horizon. I'm looking
forward to the Steven Spielberg film coming next year, which
is working title, has been rumored to be disclosed, a
few different names that's gone through, but I just feel
like Steven Spielberg is going to for sure envelop everything

(02:45:13):
that needs to be enveloped within that film. A lot
of questions that people have right now. The beauty of
film in movie making is that you can make it
whatever you want it to be. Like it doesn't. You
could take the narrative and you can shape it into
something a message, a message that comes through through the film.

(02:45:34):
And I just really feel like he's gonna take the
advantage to do that. And we know there's other projects
that are going to be released. Another big filmmaker, I
can't think of the name right now, but he's also
working on a UFO related film. So I think we're
gonna get into some really good stuff. We had a
jam pack year. We're gonna do a year in review

(02:45:54):
show as well before this year is up, because I
think it's very good to look back at all the
awesome things happened this year. But twenty twenty six, I
think is gonna be something big. And I don't like
making predictions or but I just I just feel like
the momentum moving into twenty twenty six is strong and
that we should you know, there's some things definitely to

(02:46:17):
look forward to. Uh, we got to add to that
real quick, Drew Ski before I go ahead, and uh,
before we get ready to get up out of here.

Speaker 7 (02:46:25):
You know, I saw a lot of talk about I
saw a lot of talk about the solar stuff in
the chats when when Debs was on. So the Atlas
comment going around the Sun just happened to coincide with
some of the biggest solar flares that we've seen on
record that we've ever seen. It resulted in Aurora borealist

(02:46:48):
that you know, a lot of the world seene that
never got that thought they would never see that, you know,
And this has This is not the first time this
has happened. Three This has happened three or four times
I can remember over the past year or two in
the United States, I've witnessed it a few times. So, yes,
there is a lot of people that has visions and

(02:47:11):
premonitions about solar flares. I've had premonitions about solar flares.
I think it's going to play a part in this
awakening process. And I think we're gonna see some type
of event with a bigger solar event coming, maybe coincide
with other things. But yeah, twenty twenty six is gonna
be an amazing, amazing thing happen. I truly believe.

Speaker 9 (02:47:33):
I say it.

Speaker 7 (02:47:34):
I say it every year, but you know it's a
that tooth is has to be pulled eventually.

Speaker 1 (02:47:40):
Awesome stuff. Great place to end that, Drew Bank, he
appreciate you coming in for that hours wrap up. We're
gonna be doing big stuff tomorrow. I will see you again.

Speaker 7 (02:47:48):
Tomorrow, sir, Yes, sir, I got my coffee ready, all right, take.

Speaker 1 (02:47:52):
Care man later Drew Banky, Guys, Drew Banky. With that
hours wrap up, We're gonna go ahead and jump really
quickly into UFO and weird News of the week. Here
we go, ladies and gentlemen, Can I please have your attention.
I've just been handed an emergence, a horrifying news story

(02:48:19):
at all of you stop what you're doing, all right,
UFO and weird News of the Week. I got definitely
a weird one right here. Uh, there's a guy man
is seventy one percent through evolution into a quote black
alien that has seen him cut off fingers and ears.

(02:48:42):
Now this is where Now we're not talking about black
as in I'm an African American black person. We're not
talking about racial things. We're talking about this guy is
literally tattooed his body the color black. Right, Okay, So,
an extreme body modification artist has revealed that he is
seventy one percent finished with evolving into a black alien

(02:49:05):
when it comes to extreme body modification. Anthony Lifredo and
you can look him up online, is arguably one of
the most well known figures in the world. The thirty
seven year old is known for undergoing some pretty drastic
body changes, which include removing his ears, nose and top lip,

(02:49:26):
amputating two fingers, and having numerous subdermal implants placed in
his head and arms. And that's not even mentioning the
fact that Lifredo had had himself almost entirely tattooed in
black ink. His extreme transformation is one which has been
without backlash, as the Frenchman revealed in twenty twenty three

(02:49:49):
Channel four documentary that he is often judged for his appearance.
When you hear about someone who's decided to chop parts
of their body off, ink every inch of available skin,
and even have objects permanently implanted into their body, your
first question is most likely going to be why. Thankfully,

(02:50:13):
in the case of Lefredo, we don't have to speculate
too much, as he previously revealed in the Spanish newspaper
El Periodical in twenty twenty one, that he'd made the
changes to help himself feel better in his body. Quote
because it's something very personal that I feel, he told
the outlet. Quote again, my questions about life? Why are

(02:50:36):
there only humans on earth? Why isn't there something more?
Lifredo continued, because quote because it's something that fascinates me.
The estraterrestrial world is something that really captivates me. This
is something he also touched on while filming the documentary
transformed myself into an alien, saying that he was interested

(02:51:00):
in people. I'm a quote I'm alone since I was little,
he said. However, in December twenty twenty three, Lofredo appeared
to abandon his alien project, revealing it had lost all
meaning to him and that he would finish his evolution
by covering himself completely in black ink. This is something
which he appears to be continuing with, judging by a

(02:51:22):
recent Instagram post which captioned quote Black Alien Project evolution
seventy one percent. Naturally, most of you will be wondering
what on earth Lefredo looked like before he came the
Black Alien, And thankfully you don't have to speculate, as
he has shared in picture online. That's right, folks, he
embarked on the Black Alien evolution. Lifredo was just an

(02:51:43):
ordinary guy like the rest of us. Only can one
can only imagine what his final form will look like.
And if you haven't seen this guy, he has literally
transformed his appearance into something that looks like it isn't
from this world, and I think that's pretty bananas. I
couldn't imagine chopping a part of anything off. And yeah,

(02:52:07):
that's what he decided to do. But we're gonna go
ahead and get ready to wrap this thing up. We
had a fantastic show tonight. You know, we raised vibration levels.
I feel like we did. Hopefully we did give you
tools to kind of raise the energy in your own
life and translate it in the way that's understandable to everyone.
So we want to thank dev Shakti for that. We'll
be having her back soon. We need this all the time.

(02:52:30):
We also want to thank Drew Banking doctor I was
wrap up, Steve Stocking for scaring us tonight right and
also being awesome coming with the tells Untold Missing Perfe mystery.
We also want to thank the man that you hear
right there. The guy right there is the Ron Bummer
foot Goal. He is the man that rocks us out

(02:52:51):
each and every weekend reminds us to never say never
again because as we all know, the phenomenon is real.
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