Dec. 1/25 - Plasma Intelligence with Dana Kippel - Spaced Out Radio

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Intelligent Plasma, the Human Mind, and so much more. Author

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and researcher. Kipple joins us to talk about this incredible subject.
It's her first time on this show, so you know
we're gonna treat her nicely, have some fun. Then in
our number three, swamp Dweller will be here with another
spooky story. We're going to follow that up with the Wizard. Yes,
the Wizard, Josh Rutledge, will be here for the UFO Report.

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So let's get right down to it. Let's get down
to business, shall we, as we get ready to talk
to you about our lovely guest tonight. Dana Kipple is
a survivor, creator, and visionary who transformed a childhood marked
by bullying, addiction, and trauma into a powerful mission of
self love, consciousness, exploration, and human potential. Adopted and raised

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in Suffer In, New York, she emerged as a polymath, author, filmmaker,
and mental health advocate who's working bridges spiritually and scientifically. Yeah,
she's going right down a great path and the cutting
edge of neurodivergent insight data pioneers the study of plasma intelligence,

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positioning plasma as a living conscious bridge between dimensions, timelines,
and the unseen layers of reality. Her debut book a
new force plasma consciousness and the new human potential will
dive deep into plasma consciousness synergy and how it may
reshape human evolution. Yeah, I have no idea what that means.

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That's why I went into sports journalism. But we're going
to learn tonight. Data Kipple. It is very nice to
have you on spaced Out Radio for the first time.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
How are you, hi, guys, I'm great, How are you?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I have wonderful, absolutely wonderful. Thank you for coming on
the air with us tonight.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, I'm super excited.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
I'm excited to talk about plasma and paranormal and weird
things and mental health and consciousness and whatever.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, we're going to get into it. Let's learn a
little bit about you first. How did this all begin
for you? What caused you to start studying about this?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, it's super weird.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I actually didn't know what the heck plasma was either.
And when I turned around thirty, I started meditating and
I was on like my third day of meditation. I
was doing transcendental meditation, and I had been going through
a really bad relationship and I kind of was feeling
like shit because you know, abandonment wounds and betrayal, wounds,

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you know, being adopted and all those things, and I
was just feeling really depressed, and I had the all
I had was an intention of wanting to feel better
and wanting to like connect with myself, Like I wanted
to stop meaning things outside myself, which has been my
whole life, like through addictions and validation and just anything
outside myself. I used to self regulate and you know,

(05:52):
I'm working on that still to this day. And when
I started meditating the third time, all of a sudden,
in my medicae, it like came through to me. I
can't explain how. I still can't explain it in like
human words, but all of a sudden, I just knew,
like whatever this plasma was at the time, plasma is intelligent.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
It is the vehicle for consciousness.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
And I was told by like my higher self that
I was going to write a book called a New
Force about plasma. And then everything else in that book
also was like dropped into my head. And then it
took the next kind of five years to bring that
into human words, and then eventually I wrote it this year,
and you know, now it's out. It's like a seven
hundred page big book. So that's how I found figured

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it out.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
It's really a mystery, but it's your story, and it's
your mystery, and it's absolutely something divine to you because
you needed that piece in order to get your life
back on track, to get yourself refocused.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
How did you change as a person as you got
into that, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
So much, and I still am changing to this day.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I feel like, so there's science and spirituality, right, and
then there's metaphysics. When I love science, but I never
felt like the emotion of science, like there are a
lot of missing pieces that science can't answer for me
and mysteries, and then with spirituality there are a lot
of missing pieces that it can't give me due to
science and my logical brain. And plasma seemed to be

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this metaphysical bridge between the two where it gave tangibility
to all the self help books and spiritual books I've
ever read. You know why telepathy is possible, why this
energy is actually tangible and we're actually seeing it as
plasma in the third dimensional realm which I'll get into,
and that it is the vehicle for consciousness. It creates

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our conscious experience. That there is a feminine principle to
this you know, divine masculine consciousness principle. It's kind of
like plasma is our dance partner through life, and all
of us are here working on our consciousness, not realizing
that we're neglecting the other side of the equation, this energy,
this chi, this universal ether that has been suppressed for

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thousands of years if and in science it's even been suppressed,
which is why no one learns about plasma ever.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
But it makes up ninety nine point nine percent of
visible matter.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
So and just to say my definition of plasma quick So,
there's plasma in science, which it is the fourth state
of matter.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
It is an ionized gas.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
It can be lightning the Northern lights, it can be
neon signs, it can be.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's also in your blood.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
That's a different type of plasma, but they have the
same behaviors, which I get into in my book. I say, okay,
that is a third dimensional lens of science on this plasma,
which is actually a living ether, a fabric of our
reality that is multidimensional.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
It is the vehicle for consciousness. It is not conscious.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Itself, but it wraps itself around all consciousness, which explains
why we have a bioplasma or around us. The Earth
has a plasma membrane around it called the ionosphere and magnetosphere. Right,
every cell has a plasma membrane. Once you start making
the connections as above, so below you go on a

(09:18):
wormhole like I did. But yeah, basically, plasma is a
multi dimensional, living, sentient fabric of reality that is a
vehicle for consciousness, intelligence, and information. So that's kind of
where I start with it.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
You mentioned that when you turn thirty you started getting
into meditation to try and you know, bring some balance
to your life. What brought that on and why was
it successful for you?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Sure? I think I just had a very long life
of struggle.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
I started out being adopted, which I didn't think I
had an issue with. I've always prided myself that I
didn't have trauma.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
From being adopted.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
But I think the truth is that just subconsciously, I
felt very discarded as a child. I all of a
sudden was in a family, and you know, God bless
my family. They you know, tried the best they could,
but I was looking at people and I was like, wait,
I'm not from you, Like where am I from? And
then you know, in elementary school I.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Was bullied a lot.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I didn't have many really close friendships. I had a
lot of friends that were close, move away. People made
fun of you know, my last name, my glasses, that
fact that I was weird and talking about aliens and
you know, past lives or whatever from the age of
like eight or six. And then you know, I was
in gymnastics and my gymnastics teacher, you know, was a

(10:39):
bad man, and you can kind of put the you know,
two and two together because I know the show is,
you know, not a rat at our show. He went
to jail, and then you know, I developed a drug
addiction and alcohol addiction when I was fourteen, and also
got into like horrible codependent relationships and once again was
searching for everything outside myself. And then after I got sober,

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evil and at age twenty one, I was still searching
for love outside myself and you know, all the wrong
friends and all the wrong men. And eventually I got
to thirty and I just felt like I had enough
pain and I was like, Okay, I need to like
heal my trauma. And I've been in therapy my whole
life and it didn't work, cognitive behavioral therapy. But I
didn't know there was something called somatic therapy and you

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know hypnotherapy and internal family systems and working on your
body that stores trauma. So I started doing a mix
of that and something called the Comprehensive Resource model, which
I link in my book, and I started doing transcendella meditation.
I just wanted to feel better and nothing else was working.
I was like, okay, fine, like I'll dive in word finally,

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because I was so scared of my inner world. Because
my inner world as a child was full of demons
and monsters and horrible memories and loneliness and pain that
I just didn't want to feel.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
It was too much to feel at the time. So
I had to survive.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
And I still struggle some times with diving inwards because
I have so much still to work on.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
I mean, this was my.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Whole, a whole life of pain up until thirty and
even still, like you know, last year, my dad died,
so I had to deal with all of that and
it was very abrupt, and you know, I went through
a breakup a few years ago that was rough too,
And now for the first time, I'm thirty six now
and I'm still working on, you know, having secure attachment
and healthy relationships.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
But I forgot your question now, but when.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I started answered it perfectly to be blunt. You know, meditation.
How did you find out about it? Why did you
decide to try it?

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, I just wanted to feel better.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
And I found out about transcendental meditation because I was
a filmmaker. I'm a science fiction filmmaker, and I heard
David Lynch did it, and I was like, oh, I
want to be like David Lynch.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I'm going to try transcendental meditation. And the first time.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
I did it, I had a beautiful spiritual experience. I
have the recording. I've never posted it, but I'm going to.
And I was in plays. I was in this like
fractal pink womb all of a sudden, and I was
crying tears of joy because I knew where I came from,
where I'll go back to.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I knew that my worries were an illusion.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
I knew that everything was okay at like the deepest level,
even though things almost never feel okay with me because
my nervous system is so disregulated and I don't know,
I mean, that changed it all for me. And I'm
not saying that worked forever. After a few weeks, you know,
you come down from that and then real life hits
you and you're a human again with all these problems.

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I'm still a human every day with all these problems,
knowing plasma or not. The difference is I have the
choice and the power to work through my problems, to
face my fears. When I have scary paranormal experiences, I
know how to turn them into good experiences, which my
whole life I didn't know how to do. I've been
plagued with horrible you know, demonic visitations, shadow people. I've

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been able to turn those now into beautiful experiences, which
I'm happy to explain how it all has to do
with plasma.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
So yeah, when did the paranormal experiences start for you?

Speaker 5 (14:08):
As early as I can remember, I mean I was
drawing pictures of like aliens from the from like age
six or five, like in a yard. I was writing
stories about being abducted and taken away by aliens and
then dropped in the ocean with my mermaid family. I
was really angry once as a kid and a lamp
flew across my room. I don't know if I did
it or I just imagined it. I would get visited,

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I would have sleep prolysis. After not I was nine,
I started having sleep prolysis, and you know, seeing you know,
all types of demons, like a red demon floating in
front of me. One time I saw a basketball player
and he took his head off and threw it at me.
Just like the weirdest sleep process experiences ghosts almost every night,
like I literally couldn't sleep because I would like feel

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things looking at me. And what I realized after doing
a lot of trauma healing, because this doesn't happen now,
so I've been in the darkest darkness and now I'm
you know, in the light, is that these experiences were
all resonating with the fear within me, with the trauma
I hadn't healed. And there were actually beams that were
trying to help me and help evolve me, but I

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was seeing them as these horrible monsters. Because there's this
layer what I call four dimensional plasma, you can call
it the ecocic field, you can call it whatever you
want to call it, zero point energy. There's this field,
this dark field between ourselves and our higher selves or
these higher beings of consciousness, five D consciousness, God, whatever
you want to call it. There's this dark layer that

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holds all of our timelines, all of our ancestry, all
of our archetypes we've ever seen, you know, grays, demons, Dakinis,
good things too. And these beams are clothed in this
four dimensional plasma, just like we have for you know,
bioplasma or around us, and we see them based on

(15:56):
our own perceptions. So I was seeing them through a
lens of feet, which co created some really scary experiences.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
When did the aliens start first start coming.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I'm trying to think of like a first memory.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
I have.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I mean the thing, Okay, so I.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Have one memory of being on a ship where I
was I have like a weird mark on my finger
too that I've had my whole life. And there's like
black dark spots in it in this like red thing.
You would have to look really close, but it's very strange.
I always thought that was something, but who knows. But yes,
I was on maybe I was I don't know between

(16:38):
I would say seven and nine, and I got Brad
on this ship.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
I don't know if I've ever told a story public.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
And I was like this kind of like a in
like a five like a leidonnar Da Vinci post like
whatever that Vitruvian man poses, and they were all kind
of studying me, and I was just up for display,
and that's at least how I remember it. And then
after being regressed back after doing some trauma healing, I

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think that I was in a ship near O'rian where
I think one of my lifetimes were and they were
just kind of studying like how I was.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
But it was nothing like evil or weird.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
It was just very neutral, like oh, but I think
what was happening was something bad was happening to me
in my bedroom and my sleep, and they kind of
took my consciousness out of my body, like trying to
actually help me. But at the time, you know, it
was really scary obviously, but those one of the it
was through through trauma. I think was one of the

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first times I was open to those kind of things.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, do you know who took you?

Speaker 7 (17:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Did you ever see them? I mean.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I saw them in my vision. I can't I don't think.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
I don't know how reliable it is because I think
the vision's changed as my consciousness has changed, which is
super weird.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
But I know the energy behind it was very neutral.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
It was not like evil, and it wasn't even I
would say super loving. It was more like just benevolent,
but also like observational. If any kind of energy, I
would say, it's more like, you know, more like Nordic
energy or maybe o'riyan something like that.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
But I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I don't know for you, when you started kind of
focusing in on the energy that these situations brought, how
did you deal with it, because a lot of people
out there have trauma over not knowing how to deal
with that sort of contact.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah, I mean, I guess number one, because it was
just so normal, Like I feel like my head was
always in a fantasy because I, you know, didn't like
real life, so I had so many just weird experiences.
And my life was more traumatic than these weird experiences,
so they were almost like a reprieve for me in
a way and kind of fun and magical to think about.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Even the scary ones.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Was a break from my actual life, which I, at
least in my perspective, felt was horrible. Maybe it didn't
look so from like an outsider point of view, but
you know, no one ever knows what someone's really dealing with.
But I mean they were just stabilizing. I obviously couldn't
sleep for a lot of my life. Now I can

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sleep just fine. But that's such a good question. I
would have to say, there was like this deep knowing
that I was okay and nothing could actually hurt me
unless I let it hurt me. Like I knew that,
and I knew not to I knew not to fear them,
but I feared them anyway. And I had this weird,

(19:52):
deep sense that I was connected to all of them,
even if it was scary, Like, yeah, I don't know
how to explain it, it's a really weird one.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I mean I was scared. I was scared.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
It was weird, but it was no more scarier than
my real life or real human being.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Do you think what you went through in your first
couple of phases of life prepared you for this mission,
this journey that you're on now.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Like I had a lot of betrayal and a lot
of rejection because I was very authentic as a child.
My parents, you know, took that as like I was
too much. I've always been too much, and I you know,
took that on too, which I'm trying to let go.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Of now, And I think dealing with that in.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
A way almost made me very brave to be myself
publicly now and say whatever I want to say, because
I was like, well, can't get much worse. So when
I was young, and you know you can't, I learned
you can't really please people whether you're faking it or
being authentic. So I may as well just be authentic
and like not, I don't care if anyone makes fun
of me. I've already been Oh thank you whoever just
said that. You know, I've already been to the lowest

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of lows, you know, as far as like you know,
sadness and loneliness go. So I may as well try
to find my people by being myself and sharing and
trying to help people, because like, I never want people
to feel as alone and as miserable as.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I felt and sometimes still feel, to.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Be honest, and you know, if I can help people
not feel alone and remember their power and their magic,
then my life is complete. And you know, I even
though I'm saying this, I still struggle individually with connection.
So like I could be myself all day on here,
but when it's one on one, I still get very
hyper nervous about if the person's going to abandon me

(21:38):
if I say the wrong thing, if I'm my authentic
self one hundred percent, because that just feels like an
extra layer of vulnerability, and that's something to be transparent
that I'm still working on.

Speaker 9 (21:49):
Yeah, boy, that.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Sounds familiar to me. Oh, I just don't let it out.
I just don't. I try not to let it out,
you know. But yes, that that resonates very deeply with Yeah,
with my life too, is is you know you feel
like you're always having to please people, You always having
to you know, be the lesser person so to speak.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
You know, yes, yes, And I'm very like I hate
the word anxious attachment, but like I'm trying to be
more secure in my attachment now. But it like, shoot,
I lost my train of thought because I was like, oh,
wo'd I say that?

Speaker 6 (22:30):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (22:31):
With like with people, I'm like, yeah, I hyper focus
on like what they are thinking about me instead of
what I think about them. It's almost like I'm not
comfortable in what I think about someone, and I'm way
more I'm way more comfortable being rejected than doing the rejecting.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
That makes sense, So I'm almost more comfortable like.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Uh, efforting or chasing for love, and I always think
that I'm closer to someone than I really am.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
It's like it's very it's very hard to get through
my exterior.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
But once you break through it, all of a sudden,
like I love you, like human or relationship, whatever it is,
I love the person, and all of a sudden, like
five months later, I'm like, oh my god, I.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Don't even think they liked me that much. We weren't
even as close as I thought. Like, I don't know,
it's just such a mess.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
And I don't know if it's neurodivergence, it's you know,
some autism or complex PTSD.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I think it's all of it.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
And what I'm learning right now is that I have
to go through the discomfort of being that authentic individually
and letting the people that are meant to leave leave
even though like it kills me so it sucks.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Oh, trust me, I live it every day. I live
it every day. Yeah. Yeah, this whole radio thing that
I do, it's a facade. Man.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
What's comforting in a way because you still have a separation.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
It's really weird because like the whole Dave Scott persona
for my audience, they have one thought of me if
they knew who I really was. Where I'm very introverted,
I'm very scared of people. I'm very how can I
put it, I don't have a lot of strength. Yeah, sensitive,

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I'm very sensitive. They would have no clue and and
I just kind of gave that up. But I'm very
open with my audience that I do suffer from depression
and anxiety. I'm very open about that. So it is
something that I'm resonating very much with you here, and
I think that is I think a lot of people
will When we return on Spaced Out Radio with author

(24:37):
Dana Kippl, We're going to get into plasma intelligence. What
is it about and how does it affect the experience
people have with the phenomena. This is going to be
a great show. Stay tuned. Spaced Out Radio returns right
after this hold on. I had to ue mute you there. Okay,

(25:10):
what was that?

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Did I say something?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I don't know you were talking and I had you muted?

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Oh oh oh god, what was I going to say?
I don't know, I blacked out on everything.

Speaker 10 (25:21):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
I was just gonna say.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
I think it's so important that, like we are do
say these things because some people don't think that they
can be like successful or put themselves out there on
social media, and it's like, you know, showing that you
struggle but still can have some success is very important.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Then everyone realizes they can have the same thing.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Oh yeah, you know what. What's famous in my life
to me is I'm the guy who in my personal life,
I've always been the dude who's blamed for everything, even
if I have nothing to do with it. I'm the
one who always gets blamed. And it's kind of a

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running joke now that I'm in my early fifties rather
than when I was like in my thirties and forties,
where I would get really upset. Or the other thing
that happens is people are always telling me, you know,
why don't you stand up for yourself? Why don't you
You know, you've got to be stronger, You got to
be that man, you know, because I am in a

(26:22):
in my daytime job, I am in a position of authority,
and it's funny, but when I do stand up for myself,
I end up getting in more shit then. You know,
like one person could say one thing, but then if
I react, you know, and be the boss or or
call it out. I end up getting absolutely trounced over.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Well that means you're around the wrong people.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Oh god, that's my entire life.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Then, yeah, because we set our lives up to have
those same people as our caregivers who do these same
things that happen to us.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Oh I know.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
So it's like the way to get out of it
is to actually face.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
It and stand through that, and then when you heal
that in your inner child, you start attracting different people.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
But I mean it's a journey.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Oh very much. So this journey that I'm on is
going to take about fifteen different lifetimes to figure it out.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Mine has take I could get into that. I mean
mine's taken many lifetimes that I remember, you know, and
every lifetime I've been in that I remember I've tried
to release a book or like like a something magic
or you know, an invention, and I always got killed
or poisoned. So when I was writing my book, I

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had the worst fear, like this has been the worst
year of my life. But I was like something my
inner voice was like, this is the one lifetime where
you're actually going to do it, Like you've been working
towards this for all your lifetimes and like, and your
life will still continue after this and work towards more.
And I trusted it, and I you know, I put
it out and I'm not dead, so there, you know,

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action is the only way through some of these things.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
True. Yeah, Jacqueline Lynn Faith, Welcome to sour Chat. How
are you. I'm really trying hard right now to hold
back a sneeze. I don't think it's gonna work.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
I need to shake my energy out mine on YouTube
right now. I'm just punting there.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
This is what they do in Africa, the shakedance, or
what what dogs do to shake off stress.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
So it works really well for me.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's what I have dirty Filth for. In the cats,
it's the gargoyle, the gargoyle. Yeah, is that the gargoyle? Dirty?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Oh? Dirty Phil? I see what is? What is dirty
Phil is drawing? What is this?

Speaker 9 (29:07):
This is damn it cat? This is this is Miss
Filth's dad's cat. This is Smoky.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Hello, Smoky.

Speaker 9 (29:18):
We're taking care of his three cats while he's busy
with other things.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
I Smokey.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
The cats are all waked out right now because there's.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Three dirty Filth draws cartoons here, I know cartoons.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
That's so cool.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
That is so aesthetically pleasing for neurodivirgent people. I feel
like when you're listening to things, well, you're welcome.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I love watching.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
One of his biggest fans is Brandon Fugel, who owns
Skinwalker Ranch.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yeah, I know him from LinkedIn Funny We Brandon once
texted me about plasma.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Actually, Dirty Filth and him are like best buddies. They
even said each other Christmas presents.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Oh that's so funny. You should tell him about it.
Be like I talked to the plasma girl.

Speaker 9 (30:10):
I'll have to remember that.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
He said that he thought the things around their ranch were,
you know, plasma of some sort.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Hold on right there, guys, Dirty, I'm gonna meet you.
Thank you tonight to Tim Mothman or no, Tim Senor
and Amy for the great super chats. Here comes the
second half hour. Here comes the second half hour spaced

(30:51):
out radio all about plasma intelligence coming up. My name
is Dave Scott. Thank you very much. As we stay
warm inside SR headquarters while the snow blows outside. Hey,
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(31:35):
is here tonight. She's hanging on out with us to
talk about her book and what a good one it is,
because if you want to know more about yourself and
your connections, it's called a New Force. Yes, it's her
debut book, A New Force Plasma Consciousness and the new
human potential. And we're going to bring Dana on here

(31:59):
right now. Dana, thank you so much for being here.
Appreciate you. Plasma. Let's get into plasma, Plasma intelligence. What
is it.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
So?

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Plasma intelligence? Oh my dog got excited.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Plasma intelligence is an offshoot of plasma. For anyone who
hasn't been listening, plasma is an expanded definition of plasma.
It is a multidimensional, living, sentient fabric of reality. It
is the vehicle for consciousness. It is not conscious itself.
It is more like a cosmic mirror that consciousness is
experiencing itself from, and also the intelligent clay that consciousness

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molds to create reality. And if you picture plasma is
like this middle kind of neutral substance making reality. Our
consciousness creates with it, and then so does our higher self.
So it helps connect us to our higher self. And
when we're connected to what I call the multidimensional self,
we can mold that clay better and create reality, co
create reality in more magical fun ways. There's something called

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plasma intelligence, which Mary Magdalen called gnosis.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
It is this third space.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
It is think of a I think the words vesia, pisces, vesca, pissis.
Think of two circles coming together, and it's like that,
you know, third little space in the middle that creates
almost like an emergent third space out of it.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
It becomes almost like a wormhole.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
Right.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
So when any two things come together, let's say me
and you, we are creating a third intelligence. That space
is a space of plasma intelligence, or what I call
fourth dimensional plasma. When your consciousness is in that space,
you cannot only have psychic premonitions to lepathy, you create

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an emergent third reality that lives on you know, past you.
It is like a creative imagination space, and there are
ways to train yourself to always be in that space.
Not always, I would say you can be in it sometimes,
but be in that space a lot where you can,
you know, channel from your higher self. You can you know,
learn telepathy, you can bend metal spoons. And it's all

(34:12):
about in present, connecting with your heart, healing your trauma,
learning how to feel your feelings authentically in every moment.
It's very mundane human stuff. That just sounds very fantastical.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
But yeah, plasma intelligence is just.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
The third space of which our consciousness is kind of
syncing with plasma and we have an expanded perception.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
And my dog is loving this right now.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
So what kind of dog do you have?

Speaker 4 (34:39):
I have a Corgie.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
She's a little bit famous on my Instagram. She likes
to bark to confirm things.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Very cool. We can live with that. Yeah, is plasma
intelligence its own life? Like the phenomena is it is?

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Sorry? Is it own?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
What?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Is it its own life?

Speaker 5 (34:59):
I I would say that I can't say that for sure.
What I can say is it seems to be like
this living organism, an organic and organic. It seems like
it's paradoxical. It has receptive qualities. That's why I relate
it to the feminine more than the masculine.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
But it is neutral at its core.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
It's kind of like there's like a symbol, the Shiva
and Shakti symbol. I have to pull that up now,
just because I'll explain why this has to do with plasma. Okay,
so I read about this in my book too. Hold on,
I'll show you the symbol. Explain why I'm even saying this.

(35:42):
It's like a symbol of nine triangles. Does anyone know
what I'm talking about. I'm trying to figure out what
it is. Hold on, well, I can't find it. But
there is a shiva shockedy symbol of nine triangles, and
the point of it is the ninth triangle leans in
the feminine. It leads I think there's like one extra

(36:03):
upside down triangle, and the point is that's what plasma is.
It is neutral, but it is quasi neutral, just like
in science, because it leans a little bit into the feminine,
or a little bit into like the negative, like more
electrons than positive. I don't even know why I'm saying
that now, I'm gaining off key. What did you even
ask me? I went on a channel.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Well, if plasma intelligence is its own life form, oh so.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yeah, I don't think any of us can really know,
because I feel like it was almost here, like just
when consciousness was here, or even before consciousness. I feel
like it started out as sentience. It started out as
almost like this neutral kind of feeling play. And for
all I know, one day it will become self aware,
but right now it seems like it just it almost

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like reflects our own consciousness. It is supportive for our
consciousness to evolve to learn.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
But is it itself conscious? No, but alive.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
I would say it is alive in like an inorganic way.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
So how does it connect or tie to humanity or
the human consciousness?

Speaker 5 (37:12):
Then sure, well it's literally like the womb of all consciousness.
So just like you know, we have an aura, that's
a bioplasmic aura. Just like I said, how there's a
plasma membrane around cells, just like the Earth has a
membrane around it that is plasma.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
It holds our crystallized consciousness.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
And just like plasma is in different gradients, think of
a painting all made of plasma. That we're in, our
consciousness can almost liquefy and go outside our bubble and
visit other places. It's like plasma is the roadway, and
our consciousness is like the car. That kind of is
like the car needs a road, you know. Plasma is
that road. It's like the cosmic ocean, and we're like

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little fishies swimming in it, not realizing we're swimming in
a sea of plasma. And the way it relates to
our consciousness is that it is reflect It reflects our consciousness.
So let's say I can even relate this to a human.
But let's say you see another being of consciousness. Let's
see you see a demon. It is reflecting your state

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of consciousness. That is why you're seeing a demon. That
is telling you more about you than about what you're seeing.
So plasma, now that we know plasma has a reflective layer,
we can know by all of our judgments towards what
we see, whether it's a paranormal thing or whether it's
you and I'm having a judgment about you, that judgment
is really signed within me that I have to work

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on no matter what it is. And that is a
great way to learn about yourself. When you become cognizant
of that. And the most amazing part is once you
realize that plasma has multiple layers, and that underneath this
reflective layer is a neutral layer of intelligence, of fifth
dimensional consciousness, fifth dimensional intelligence, of our higher self, God,
Plato's Realm of perfect forms, whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
To call it.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
You see through the reflective layer, and you can channel inventions.
You can channel information that without a bias. And it's
just like when you know, I can look out look
at you with no judgment. I can, I really can
see you. And that is what happens. Danica, I'm gonna

(39:21):
close the door.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
She a part of the show.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I know she's messing with me.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Gonna love it when the dog wants to talk as
well and give her opinion. I think that's actually kind
of sweet. I do. Some people may don't like it.
I'm a fan of it.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
Oh, Danica barking up a storm.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
So yeah, whatever I was.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Saying, no problem, no problem at all.

Speaker 11 (39:48):
All right, let's consciousness, Well, I mean other ways, know,
I mean, do we really know the power of the
mind and where the mind can take us?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I mean, because that is a large, you know, part
of what we're all trying to figure out here as well.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
I don't think we know where the mind can really
take us. This is actually something very interesting. So I mean,
I could use the dragonfly or a butterfly. I'm trying
to think which sounds cooler, but like, okay, I'm just
going to use a caterpillar and a butterfly. So when
you look at a caterpillar, this is very generic, but
nothing when you look at the caterpillar, nothing about it
tells you it's going to be a butterfly at face value.

(40:31):
We are right now all like little caterpillars, and we
have the potential to all be butterflies. We don't even
realize our capabilities. And it's only through going through that
chrystalist period, that dark period, facing ourselves, healing our trauma,
feeling our feelings. And I know that sounds really mushy,
gushy and very annoying, but even Carl Jung said, like
the scariest thing man doesn't want to do is face himself,

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or like you know the words know thyself, or you know,
the only thing to fear is fear itself. Diving in
to that chrysalis is what turns us into the butterfly.
And there are so many capabilities of the mind that
we all miss out on because we're too scared to
face ourselves. There are like magic powers that I don't
even know, that you don't even know that we have
the potential to have. And this connects to the UFOs

(41:16):
and plasma. If you let me go on a tangent,
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
So if okay.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
I believe that these plasmoids in the sky, there's a
huge distraction with them. So as I said, plasma is
the vehicle for consciousness. There are these plasmoids, these orbs
in the sky. Whether you're seeing them as ghosts or
fairy lights or willow wisps, or whether you know the
right in front of you or in the sky, they
are plasmoids.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
And it is it is higher beings of consciousness.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
It is our higher selves what I call our future ancestors.
And they are literally they're only here, these interdimensional beans
that are our family. They're telling us they love us
and they support us, and they're showing us our potential.
Right there, they are showing us, hey, we know how
to harmonize with plasma to go through different dimensions to
send messages to you.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
We need you to meet us on this level.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
We need you to learn how to harmonize your consciousness
with plasma, to work with plasma in more harmonizing ways
rather than trying to control it.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
With fusion or fusion. And that is all they want
us to know.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
And I think it's very interesting because they're almost showing
us our capabilities and we're just making all these other
fantastical stories about it when it's just as simple as
they just want to tell us our power, or else
they would have told us more by now it's been
like sixty years, Like, come on, it's about us. They're
just marrying our own power.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
As they marry that power, though, where are they trying
to take us? Like I've talked to so many different
people who are who are very much in tune with themselves,
in tune with their mind, body, soul. But the one
question that nobody can really answer is what is the
message that we are trying to get? What is the

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message from the phenomena or our consciousness that is trying
to elevate us to become better human beings or better
souls for the next realm of life.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, And I have a great answer to that, and
it's not the one maybe anyone wants to hear, But
it's different for everyone.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
You know it is.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
It is based on our own conscious interface, and plasma
reflects something different for every single human, And anyone who
says they have the answer is wrong, even when I'm saying,
take where the grain of salt? Everyone, but you know
you and I know me, and if my higher consciousness
is communicating with me, only I can figure that out
through my own journey, just like you can. We can't

(43:40):
really answer the questions for each other. All we can
do is really go on personal journeys and interface with
these beings and be brave and ask questions and dive
into what our magic powers can be individually, some of
it is collective, some of the it will be crossover.
Sharing our experiences might help unlock something in someone else.
All we can do is share our experience and go

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on our inner journeys and have discernment and know that
no one's truth is our truth, but it doesn't mean
it's not our truth either. It can be a fractal
of our truth and we have our own truth.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Both can be true, both can be false. So yeah,
it's just about all of that.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
But what is truth though, because truth is but your
truth is different than my truth, which is different than
anybody else's truth. Yeah, you know, how do we find
what the true truth is? Data like that, the truth
that we are supposed to follow, because obviously your path

(44:40):
is going to be much different than my path. Yeah,
you know, your life has been much different than mine, Okay,
in every facet of it. So is it one truth
we're trying to find or is it our own truth?

Speaker 6 (44:55):
No?

Speaker 5 (44:55):
I think it's individual truths. And I think that's what
the next wave of consciousness this is going to be about.
It's about how to hold space for everyone's different truth.
You know, this convergence. Truth is a river, Truth is
in flux. Truth changes every day. God has changed. That's
what the parable of the Sower Book, the sci Fi
book said too, that God has changed. Truth is never solid,

(45:17):
it is never fixed. Just think of your entire life.
The universe is alive, it is plasma, It is growing,
It is a flower of life. It is a flower
of life, and all we can do is interface with
it every day with our authentic consciousness and grow in
abum and you know, come together with respect that our

(45:38):
truths are all different, which is the hardest part of humanity.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, it is a very difficult time trying to find
out where our path takes us. Spiritually speaking, though, should
we be looking for it? Because sometimes when you enter
the realm of the phenomena, uh, the phenomena really doesn't care.
It's going to take you to places that you don't

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know or never expect.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Yeah, which is the fun part. That's what I call
the mystery or what some people call God. Like, what
I think is so fun is that mystery of what
comes back to you. I think that all we can
do is control our resonance and you know, healing our
trauma and as I say, feeling authentically and understanding if
something comes to us it's for our highest evolution and

(46:31):
not to give into fear and to you know, hold
a neutral standpoint on a lot of the things we see,
not jumping to conclusions journaling about it. It doesn't mean
we're not going to see scary things and not some
like toxic positivity freak Like I still, you know, have
seen scary things, but I have a different perspective on
those things.

Speaker 8 (46:50):
Now.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
It's almost like when you laugh in the face of
those that kind of dissipate or you know when you
just like in every horror movie where you when you
face them onto it goes away and it's not so
scary anymore.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
So So, yeah, but what said something I.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Missed natural phenomena might already demonstrate plasma like intelligence.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Yeah, I would say the closest thing right now in
science is dusty complex plasma which has self organizing properties.
There's something called the Cordileuski clouds, which are intelligent plasma clouds.
Robert Temple wrote an amazing article or paper on it,
I think it's peer reviewed with Chandro Wikrama Singi that

(47:36):
talked about how they are cosmic superbrains, and he also
just published a new article on it, basically how these
clouds are almost like living, like they have like DNA strands,
and that they resemble DNA strands and self organization, you know,
as smart as a brain. And there are ways to
look at plasma dynamics, which I think tells us how

(47:57):
the science of higher consciousness works. So that is the
most amazing thing I've seen in science that can hint
towards plasma being actually alive. Is also plasmoids, how they
move without heat signatures, especially in the UAP fields. There's
something intelligent there. And even in like metals, there's something

(48:19):
called the Jilleam model. Lockheed Martin knows about it because
they have patents on shape shifting metal. There's you know
what I call plasmatic metals. Plasma and steel have a
lot in common there. You know, there's these when you
ionize these metals and you know, the observer effect can
actually affect these metals. So that shows that these, you know,

(48:40):
plasmatic metals are affected by consciousness, just like plasma is
affected by consciousness. So much show so that the pilots
have to be trained not to have to have coherent
mindsets or else they're scared their minds are going to
affect the equipment.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
So it's pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
There's the power of the mind actually have the ability
to affect equipment technology, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Yes, if you look it up.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Even I believe Yah Whitely I interviewed about this. She
was a space psychologist or something.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
But there there is studies and people can look it
up that they that they literally train pilots to have
coherent mind body, and souls because they're worried about their
thoughts affecting these kind of stealth aircrafts, which is very
interesting to me.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
So basically it's connecting your mind to the technology.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Yeah, and I think it's the beginning stages of you
know what these UAPs do that they probably know worked backwards,
but yeah, like we're higher beings of consciousness use these
kind of plasma like ships, and once the beams of
consciousness aren't using them anymore, all of a sudden, we
don't know how to work them. Like you know that
metal ball. I don't know if that's real or not,
but you know, these metallic things that fall to earth

(49:58):
and all of a sudden aren't working the same. We're
never going to know how it works unless we know
how to evolve our consciousness to harmonize with that metal.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Speaking of that, have you ever talked to someone who
alleges to have flown the craft?

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Talk to someone who alleges to have not who has
flown the really stealthy ones. I've talked to just the
psychologists who train those people, and she's very open about
talking about training their mindsets.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
No, I'm saying alien alien contact ease who claim to
have flown the craft.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Oh no, oh.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
You need to talk to Grant Cameron about that. He
has written an entire book. I actually, a couple of
years ago, I used to run I used to run
a ghost toward our local museum, okay, And this lady
comes up to me and says, could you you're really
into this? Could you help my daughter? And she was

(51:00):
like twelve thirteen years old at the time, and she
kept on seeing grays in her room and standing outside
her second story window.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
And so I'm staring at her, trying, and she's explaining
things as a as a you know, preteen, you know,
young teenager is doing her best with the giggles and
the laughs in between. And I just looked at her
point blank and I said, you've flown the craft, haven't you.
And she goes, she gets this look of shock on

(51:35):
her face and she goes, yeah, So what was it like?
M She goes, I don't know how to explain it.
I said, well, where could you go? She goes anywhere
I wanted? Yeah, And I said, well, how did you
know how to get there?

Speaker 4 (51:52):
She goes her feeling she.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Said it was She goes her hands were on like
it's like sitting in a chair with high arm rests,
and her hands were on these I don't know if
they were like orbs or balls or something. And she
pulls her hands on there and anywhere her mind like

(52:15):
she wanted to go see the rings of Saturn, so
she went there. Anywhere in the world, they would be
there within a snap of a finger.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
So I believe it as I don't know how I
know this, but I believe it has something to do
with emotion and mind coherent. So what we're training to
do and why we can't just materialize things right away
from plasma to matter, well, from ether plasma to you know,
like visible matter and solid matter, because that is how

(52:44):
it works. It goes from like ether and Eileen Mecusick
talks about this, from ether what I call plasma to
plasma to you know, gas to liquid is solid literally,
that's how matters form. The reason we can't materialize things
so quick is because we If we did that, you know,
the world would blow up. Because we have the craziest thoughts.
We don't have control over all our thoughts. But when

(53:05):
you are in these realms and you think about somewhere,
you can go there right a way.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
I do that in astral projection.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
I think of inside the moon and I'm there right now,
So it would make sense to me at these other
levels that that's how you do it. And I believe too,
it has to do with kind of no resistance, like
just believing you can and envisioning it and you almost
like are present and feeling it in your heart and you'll.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Just go there.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
When you astral projector are you leaving your body or
are you just mentally projecting it out there?

Speaker 5 (53:38):
No, I would call it by location, so I'm here
and there at the same time, and then you know,
there's out of body, which is different. I've only done
that a few times in my life, and I'm not
a huge fan of going out of body.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I haven't done it a long time.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Yeah, I can't control it, so I when I did it,
I didn't, you know, it just happened.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
And no, I get that. The last time I astro
projected was in twenty eighteen when my nephew passed away
and I wanted to see where he was on the
other side. And it's funny because I got a park
bench and he passed away on a park bench.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
That's so interesting because as soon as you said that,
I was thinking of a park bench, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
It's because you just said it.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
That's so strange, totally strange. That's the last time i've
I've I've really done it, so I got to do
it again because.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
It's like just what the girl said.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
Though.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
So as long as you have no resistance, you can
actual project anywhere. It's creative imagination. It's just like I
think about I want to see inside Mars. I'll be
you know, I'll be there right now. It's just and
it's trusting your visuals because the second about it, you
get in logic.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
And then.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Dana, you take some time here, we're going to go
to break here. Author Dana Hippel, author of a book,
A New Course. You could get it on Amazon as
we speak.

Speaker 8 (55:07):
This is based out radio with Hopes Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I lost track of time. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Oh it's a guy. That's a good thing. I guess.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yes. Can't believe you have one hundred and seventy eight
thousand people on Instagram?

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Oh no, I don't know how that that all happened
this year? Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Well, you have one hundred and seventy eight thousand and
one now because I just followed you, let me follow
you back.

Speaker 8 (55:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
I literally, at the beginning of the year had like
seven thousand followers, and I started talking out all this
stuff and it shot up out of nowhere, and I
was so scared to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Well, we're going to turn this you take a break here,
We're gonna turn it over to dirty Filth because this
is what we do. Hello Filthy, Hello Dave, Hello, dirty Deeve.
How are you Deeve? Good? Dirty? Our guest is freaking
awesome tonight, thanks Dave.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Hello.

Speaker 9 (56:21):
Oh hi Dana, how are you good?

Speaker 4 (56:23):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Oh? Not bad?

Speaker 9 (56:26):
Just struggling mightily with Smoky here because she keeps trying
to crawl into the picture, crawling place.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
That is such a cool photo.

Speaker 9 (56:35):
That's Ah Carl doing his best Canadian impression.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Oh my god, with an icy yeah.

Speaker 9 (56:42):
And he's I also have a picture of his other
buddy Allan from.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Have you ever made a card like a real cartoon,
like a TV cartoon?

Speaker 9 (56:54):
No TV cartoons? But I I just published my second book.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Oh, I do.

Speaker 9 (57:01):
A calendar every year as well. And I have a friend,
my accomplice. She turns my aliens into plushies. What yes, here,
I'll show you. Here's Carl with his swimsuit. Let me
get this a little bit. Oh my god, there's Carl
with his swimsuit.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Oh my god, that is so funny. That is so cool.
And wait was the book called?

Speaker 9 (57:29):
H It's called Cryptid Cartoons?

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Okice, Oh, Crypto cartoons?

Speaker 5 (57:38):
Whoa have you heard of the book Cryptid Cartoons?

Speaker 4 (57:42):
While I'm like, you know, have you heard of the book?
Oh god? What are they called? I feel like you
would like this.

Speaker 5 (57:51):
Hold on Ship, dark Matter, Monsters, Cryptid's Ball, Lightning and
the Science of Secret Life.

Speaker 9 (58:01):
No, but I'm gonna go look it up right now.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
Yeah that it's like such an interesting It's this guy
was a PhD who wrote it obviously about lightnings plasma.
So I'm obsessed with it. It is a really out
there book. I actually have to read that, reread it again.
I have it in my library.

Speaker 9 (58:22):
See me and him apparently someone in the yah, Yeah
that's who it is.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
I'm trying to read about him. Oh.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
He talks about neutrinos, so like, there's so much neutrinos.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
I can't even speak on it because I'll sounds stupid.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
But like I've channeled some stuff about it, and I'm
in the future.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Gonna be researching that.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
But there's so much with like neutrinos and plasma that
I have not dived and doven into yet.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
But he talks about some neutrino stuff, which is cool.
Oh they talk about Skinwalker Ranch. That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Oh yeah, I uh.

Speaker 9 (58:55):
I sent my message Brandon one day and I do
a cartoon of Skinwalker Ranch. Do you want this?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Dude? Do you want this?

Speaker 9 (59:02):
It's just sitting in my pile of artwork. He's like,
you'd send that to me?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Like did Bob Bigelow own Skinwalker Ranch.

Speaker 9 (59:08):
He's like, ah, that's funny. So I sent it to him,
and then I've been sending him drawings every year. He
sent me a he sent me a book, which is
kind of cool because I know that he's a big
book collector. He sent me a book and he wrote
in it he's like, hey, Klaus, thanks for bringing to
the Ranch to life and everything. And he sent me

(59:29):
a DVD of the first season. This is when the
first season came out, and he sent me a T
shirt which was actually pretty neat. I don't want to
wear it because I haven't seen it on the website before,
so I think it. I don't know, it's kind of
but I think it was really neat because he's a
big book collector, and for a book guy to give
a book to somebody else, yeah, that's a pretty high

(59:50):
honor because between missus Filth and I we probably got
like a thousand books, and I just have a hard
time trying to give a book away.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
I'm obsessed with books. I love. I have so many books.
I have like eight bookshelves. What is your favorite book.

Speaker 9 (01:00:08):
Like a single book or a series? A single book?
Probably the single book would be The Thief of Always
by Clive Barker.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Well, what's that about.

Speaker 9 (01:00:19):
About a boy who visits a mysterious house that you
can have all the fun things in the world, but
there's a cost to it in the end.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
What wait, I'm anna now look at that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
What's it called?

Speaker 9 (01:00:31):
The Thief of Always?

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
By Clive Barker.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Hello, mister Grimley of Always.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Have you read the Seth books?

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I have not.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
The Seth books are really interesting. They're like a they
like change you view on reality. They're really cool. They
read that it was required reading of the director of
the people that worked on the movie Dark Crystal, which
was really weird, but it's just like a cool channeled
book series.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
All right, guys, we got about thirty seconds left an
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Here we go everyone.

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My name is Dave Scott. Our guest tonight Dana Kipple,
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every night right here on spaced Out Radio, let's bring
in our guests. She's an author, she's an experiencer. She
is looking for the signs of life within consciousness called

(01:02:43):
plasma intelligence. Her name Dana Kipple, and we're glad to
have her here on the show tonight. Dana, thank you
so much for being here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
It's been a lot of fun so far, so let's
get right to it. You also believe that this plasma
intelligence does help with communication with extraterrestrials. Yes, how does
that work?

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Okay? So this is a loaded question.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
So when I talk about plasma and communication with other beings,
do you want to know how to connect with plasma
to connect with the other beans or.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Do you want to know more like how it changes
how you interface with the beings?

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
I want both, Okay, So basically the first thing everyone
needs to know is how to I'm sure people want
to know more of how to connect with plasma, and
I don't talk about this a lot. I am doing
also a magic class a live workshop on this December eighth,
and the link is in my bio or maybe you

(01:03:48):
have the link somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
For that as well. Plasma is actually very easy to
connect with.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
All you have to do is set an intention that
you want to connect with plasma.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
And go into your body get out of your thought.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
That is why transcendental meditation works so well for me,
because I said a mantra that almost like hooked into
my monkey mind or my ego mind, and I was
able to drop into my body. Plasma is sensory. Plasma
communicates through feelings. Yes, thoughts will come through, but you
have to be in your feeling an emotional body and

(01:04:23):
your sensory body using your olfactory system versus your logical thoughts.
This is not any logic at all. Logic and consciousness
is applied after you almost have to get into your
own sentience.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
And the problem with our own sentience is it is
coded with survival and fear consciousness because we don't know
how to sit in the unknown. We don't know. Most
of us don't know how to receive, which.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Is why we deal with issues with abundance and issues
with magnetizing things to us there's a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Few ways to do this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
I write about something called negative capability in my book,
which is how to get in the mode of not
reaching or grasping but also sitting in the realm of paradox.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
And there's more of.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
That about that in my book. There's also something called
creative imagination. I think it's by William Keats coined the term,
but it is another way to kind of connect with
this realm by using creative imagination. Another way, as I
just said, is very easy. It is basically just finding
any way to get into your heart coherence, into coherence

(01:05:30):
with your mind, body and soul and out of your logic.
That and setting the intention if you've never before to
connect with plasma. Now I didn't even have to do that.
All I set an intention to do was that I
wanted to feel better and connect with my inner self,
and plasma came to me. So I wouldn't say I'm
like the you know, the I'm not the like sorcerer

(01:05:54):
on like how to make your first contact with plasma
because that would be a lie because it came to me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
But all I know is if you send intention, it
will come to you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Think about any like intent dash ion, any word that
is dash ion. You're communicating with the plasma creation. I'm
blanking on oh question. If you ask it a question,
it will answer in different ways to you. So just
kind of think about those words when you're pondering on
how to connect with plasma.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
So what is the difference then, between plasma and spirit?

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
So I don't think there's any difference. I think what
they call the Holy Spirit is what I'm calling plasma.
I think plasma is literally just a new rebrand and
name for this thing that has been existing since before time,
where you know, they called it, you know dream, Uh
what do they call it? And they called it everyone,
They called it orgone energy, animal magnetism, prana, chi key energy,

(01:06:54):
zero point energy, universal stream, a kashik realm, you can
call it anything. The difference is plasma actually means to
mold in Greek. It is molded by our consciousness, and
it's literally being studied in science. So this is just
a new term for something that you know, technically I

(01:07:14):
would say, has no human name.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
These are just but by adding the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
Name plasma and looking at plasma's properties and dynamics in science,
we can actually learn like a new facet of how
this works, because when you call it energy, you can't say, oh,
it has reflective qualities, Like there's just certain things you
don't know how to explain that. Calling it plasma can
help explain more, especially by learning about literal plasma in

(01:07:41):
science now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
So you're just using newer terminology for the increase of spirituality.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
I would say I'm using new terminology for people who
are sick of spirituality and sick of science and are
looking for a more middle path of metaphysics, which kind
of includes mental health, science and spirituality and makes it
more tangible. For instance, like in my world, in plasma world,

(01:08:13):
you can you don't have to be a perfect human.
You can be authentic, you can make mistakes, you can curse,
you can mess up all. You can be this like
sacred fool I call it, or this starfool, and Plasma's
not judging you. There's no like hierarchy, you know, there's
no ascension to get to. It's just learning how to
be like your authentic, weird self. Plasma wants us to

(01:08:36):
have fun, It wants us to play, It wants us
to make mistakes and take risks, and you know, continue
to be to better ourselves, but not in a way
that's like exhausting or shameful. And sometimes we get stuck
in those things when we talk about spirituality, in my opinion,
or it's just not as tangible like this is, like, Okay,
plasma's literally studied in science, and oh my god, is

(01:09:00):
it this energy that has literally been talked about for
thousands of years and now we're studying it. Like, to me,
that is profound that we are, for the first time
ever studying this thing that we never really brought into
science before. So, yeah, it's a new term for something
that's been around. I'm not reinventing the wheel. I'm just
bringing tangibility to all of these things that haven't been

(01:09:23):
able to be explained or maybe that we see when
we're you know, in these realms, when we see these
kind of plasmatic fluid substances, these plasma balls, these these beings.
I'm bringing, you know, explanation to why these things are
happening and what they might be made out of. And
the word plasma seems to be resonating with a lot
of people.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
So and it came to me, I wish I thought
of it, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
So in your experience. Then with this, with this new
wave of spirituality, do you believe then that it is
bringing more people towards you and towards the consciousness effort
that may not have been there before because of the
reputation of spirituality.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
Yeah, it definitely brings new people in. I talked to
a lot of engineers and pete plasma physicists, and they
have all all said that there is some kind of
paranormal connection with plasma that they don't feel comfortable talking
about publicly, that these have been told privately to me.

(01:10:30):
And I'm talking about like tens of twenties, maybe even
one hundred messages from people like this who in the
military too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Who've worked with plasma who.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
And I go into this in my book the second
chapter about ether and how it connects to plasma and
how when they first discovered plasma they called it radiant
matter in the eighteen hundreds, and Sir William Crooks talked
about how this radiant matter had paranormal properties and he
was like warning scientists, like don't be fearful, like you
really should look into this, like there's a lot of
weird stuff going on that I can't explain. And then

(01:11:01):
all of a sudden, they were like, oh, let's call
it luminiferous ether. And they were like, oh, no, luminiferous ether,
We're going to disprove. And they did a total stupid
test that disproved it because they did the test wrong.
It was called the Michelson Morley test, and it was
testing for a stationary ether. It was not testing, you know,
for this like moving dynamic plasma ether. And then all

(01:11:22):
of a sudden, in nineteen twenty eight, you know, after
the FBI was created, they called it this thing plasma
all of a sudden, this four state of matter, but
all of a sudden, all the paranormal properties and the
mystical properties of radiant matter.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
You know, Tesla worked with it. He wasn't even allowed
to call it plasma. He called it radiant matter, radiant energy.
All these were two different things he worked with. All
these things were stripped away, and it's just and it
went into secrecy and it went into you know, national security.
Nick Cook, who's a journal and aviation journalist taught a
defense journalist, talks about this that plasma was literally suppressed

(01:11:58):
because it has a lot of properties and it has
to do with consciousness and no one's ready to talk
about that. And it also had.

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
Issues of national security, and it also is the same
thing now we're using for you know, nuclear fission infusion.
And what I love getting into is it's almost like
the mythology of the unicorn, where you know, a pure
maiden has to approach it for it to show its
magical qualities. The unicorn is plasma, and just like in

(01:12:26):
the Unicorn tapestries in mythology where these people are, the
unicorn is is putting it torn in the river and
cleansing the water. Plasma cleanses water. Plasma is cleansing the
air of carbon. Right now, you can look these things up.
Plasma is being harnessed and controlled by science to create
fusion and fission.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
We are not harmonizing with it. And the problem with
that is that we are caging the unicorn instead of
learning letting her reveal her magical qualities because she wants
to work with our consciousness. Plasma wants to work with
our consciousness. It wants to support us. It does not
want to be used and caged for FISHI and infusion.
And I know I'm going to get a lot of

(01:13:07):
pushback on that, but I know I'm right, and if
I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I don't think I am
because I don't know why else i'd be saying this
stuff because I have no financial incentive with that stuff.
If anything, it would get me in trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Let's ask you this question, then, do you think plasma
allows any non human intelligence to interact with our world
without reading or needing physical bodies or craft?

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
One million percent? So plasma once again sits since the
fabric of reality. It encases every bit of.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Consciousness ever so you know, just like it encases you
and our bioplasma aura and our fourth dimensional aura layer,
every being of consciousness that comes through is cloaked picture
like it coming from like an event horizon or a
black hole like from this like fifth dimensional. It has
to go through the event horizon, this darker area ex

(01:14:03):
the event horizon is actually dark. The light on the
end is not the event horizon, and then it's cloaked
in this plasma and comes here. So everything plasma is
like the glue to all timelines, dimensions, worlds, and everything
is communicating through this, you know, interstitial substance of plasma.
So if we learn how plasma works, we can learn

(01:14:25):
how to communicate with these beings better. Knowing about the
you know that it's reflective, that it reflects our subconscious.
So all these beings first approaching us will be reflecting
our subconscious and how to get through that to the
truth of who this who is visiting us? Is it
me from another timeline? Is it a traumatic memory, is
it someone sending bad energy to me? Is it my

(01:14:46):
higher self? Is it my dad who passed away? There's
many things visiting us. I don't claim to know all
of these things. I just know that they're in case
in plasma, and there is a lot of benefit to
learning about that for your own mental health on how
to interface with these beings when knowing that they're in
case in plasma.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Do you think these intelligences want to communicate with us
or are they forcing communication with us? No?

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
No, I think they want to communicate.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
I think once again, I think they're these all these
beings are for our highest good. And I'm not saying
that there's no negativity in the universe. I've obviously experienced that,
but I once again think it's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Only was reflective in us.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
So I think fear is actually human created and all
these when we see the beams of fear.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
They're not fake. I must and these experiences aren't real.
I've had them.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
I know many people who are abductees or like I've had,
you know, very negative or scary experiences. I call those
fourth dimensional informational experiences. They are more archetypal and informational.
They actually hold trauma that we need to heal ourselves,
and they're resonating with us. And then there are what
I call intelligent fifth dimensional experiences. That is where these

(01:15:58):
actual conscious beams are coming from. The informational experiences actually
aren't conscious, even though they seem conscious. They're more like memories,
like ghosts in the fourth dimension that we can see
sometimes as a bigfoot or cryptid. But the thing is,
this is where it gets complicated. We can also see
these intelligent fifth dimensional beings. Is that because it might
be resonating with something in our consciousness that we're comfortable

(01:16:20):
seeing that or not comfortable seeing that, but it might
still have a message for us.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
And if we haven't worked through that trauma, we can't.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
See, you know, these intelligent beings or these ideas maybe
they want to give us, which is why when people
heal trauma, these things kind of fall away. So I
just think it's really interesting. I don't remember what I
was saying now, but that these all oh I don't.
But the point is that maybe these informational beings have

(01:16:47):
a control factor or want to control us because they're
not conscious. They're literally our own selves trying to control ourselves,
which we do all the time. They're reflecting that. I'm
not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying that it's
not a conscious thing. That is more like fear based
but very real. Then these intelligent beams all they want
is for us to grow and evolve, and honestly, the
informational beams do too. It is non duality at its finest,

(01:17:11):
nothing is bad or good.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
It is what we make it. And when we learn that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
My life at least freaking changed because I felt like
I had my power back. And there's a reason that
many people in the world don't have these negative experiences.
It's not like they're masterfully protected, it's that they're resonating different.
So when we learn that that we have autonomy in
resonating different and also not feeling guilty if we do
have these negative experiences, because it just means that something's

(01:17:39):
trying to come through that needs to be healed.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Or work through. I mean it makes me feel less crazy.
I don't know about you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Well, it makes me open my eyes at least. Let's
throw in an audience question here. Amy is kicking things
off tonight and she is asking if you could explain
upsight vision to the audience here.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Yeah, yeah, so I read about this in my book too.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
I talk about all these like magical evolved senses that
are coming through, like synesthesia for instance. Sinesthesia is literally
seeing this plasma field when your consciousness gets crosswired. It's like,
you know, the letter A is green, or the letter
A smells like a lime. It's kind of crosswiring of
your senses. And it's because we are synergizing more with
this plasma field and we're beginning to sense in different ways,

(01:18:25):
and more people are getting that. Upside vision is an
evolved visual sense. The term is coined by Tom Matt
and he has what is called upsite vision. There's a
peer review paper by the Institute of Noetic Scientists which
was published two months ago, where he has seen actual
holographic images in front of him.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
He's not hallucinating.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
These are real images that he has seen in his
field of vision. They're not his imagination. And what he
can do is he can now he can see in
people's what I call bioplasma field. He thinks it's plasma too.
He sees in your aura, he sees your subconscious as
archetypes and images. So he'll literally he gives readings where
he can see within people subconscious which you can't usually

(01:19:06):
see unless you have upside vision or unless you're very
self aware. So he also, you know himself, sees these
beings of consciousness instead of maybe in our imagination.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
They are right in.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
Front of him, and he, you know, he saw like
these Avian bird people.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
He'll see like moving images.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
He'll see like past images, future images, and it's just like, yeah,
it's playing out right in his field of vision. Is
these like transparent holographic images. And it is a very
real thing that hundreds of thousands of people are experiencing.
And it also comes through osmosis because when I started
talking to him more about it and met him, I
started getting it. And then I shut it down because

(01:19:48):
I was like, I'm gonna go crazy. I cannot have
upside vision. And I set a.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Boundary with whatever world I was in there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
But yeah's the coolest part is I feel like when
we get these almost like magic powers, which are really
real and they're really interesting. When we're around each other
talking about them, we give each other them, which I
think is so cool. And this is like real, it's
not it's real, it's really cool. It's kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Yeah, I want to ask you, Yeah, if plaspect can
hold structural patterns, could those patterns act like a life
form of consciousness?

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
I would be stupid to say definitely not.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Maybe I would call it more as I said, like
sentient or right informational. I don't like using the word
conscious because to me it's but like what is conscious?

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Like in a way I do say this in my book,
I think consciousness is kind of a silly term because
it's like consciousness is just a system.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
I call these like higher these.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
I don't like saying the word higher either, these fifth
dimensional higher self beings whatever I say higher as or intelligence.
I like the word awareness, that there are an awareness.
I think consciousness in our third dimension is just you know,
a survival consciousness. It's a consciousness system that lets us
navigate reality and then there's fourth dimensional consciousness, which is

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maybe what I would call these informational beings.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
So I guess you can call them consciousness in a way.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
It's a paradox, and I'm probably like making myself wrong
and right in the same sentence, but sure like I
just like calling them informational more because I think that
the information is different than like human consciousness, which seems
to be attached to this fifth dimensional realm, and I
believe that these more patterns of consciousness are.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
Not attached to that realm.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
They're more within our own kind of timeline as like,
as I said, like ghost imprints, ghost patterns, but some
people might call it consciousness, and I don't really know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
It's not my place. I guess maybe I need a PhD.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
We got two minutes ago. Let's go to another audience
question here. Let's go to Joe in California. I have
a small blue lights that fire off in the woods
around my place. Is that plasma?

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
I would say, definitely, But obviously I can't guess unless
I was there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
But plasma comes in all kind.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
Of colors and sizes and lights. You know, it could
be ball lightning if it's during like a thunderstorm, or
it could be just like a weird anomalist phenomenon. But
the question is like, what do you think it is?
Like if you feel like you're having a conscious connection
with it, a heart connection, chances are it might have
a being of consciousness kind of like remote viewing you

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through it or trying to communicate with you. And maybe
it doesn't feel conscious. Maybe it just feels like a phenomena.
So I would really trust yourself and what it is.
But most of those things are plasma, the light, I
mean lights like lightnings, Plasma. Electricity is effine plasma.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
We don't even know what electricity is.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
It's plasma, so it's really just the you're seeing the
fluorescence coming off of plasma from a higher energy exchange,
just like the northern lights, and they call them willow
wasps and mythology or fairy lights, Yeah, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Say, yes, Are you a believer in the fairy realm Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
I'm I think I'm like a part fairy. I love.

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
I think I'm a believer in all mythology because I
think it's all. I think anything you can imagine is real.
There's a quote about that, and I'm obsessed with fairies.
I'm definitely part fairy. I believe in fairies and dragons
and Bigfoot and gray I believe in everything.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Everything is real.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Oh me too, me too, especially Bigfoot. That is my
Bigfoot is turned in the last couple of years into
my complete I have a big We're going to learn
your big Foot story when we come back. You'd love
by area. You totally. Yeah, it's like mini skin It's

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like mini Skinwalker Ranch. I've talked to Brandon Fugel about it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
M hm, go ahead, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
And it's just it's it's very weird. You know, has
everything from aliens to ghost to UFOs to sasquatch to
all sorts of sprites and spirits around there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
I believe that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
Yeah, there's just some areas that are more active. And
you know, there's a woman named Helena Resner, and then
Andrew Collins. They know a lot about like activity and
plasma and you know, cryptids and why all these things
are more active, and the Native American mounds they talk
a lot. And then Greg greg Little he wrote a

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book about archetypes and plasma. But them three I would
have anyone refer to for that. I wish I knew
more about that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I want you to hold on right there. We're gonna
get out of here in about ten seconds. We have
Dana Kipple here for another thirty minutes on spaced Out rasio.
The plasma conversation continues.

Speaker 10 (01:25:12):
You're listening to space Out video with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
All right, works there.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
Hello, It's so funny when I talk about this stuff,
my voice speeds up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
You're doing great, I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:41):
It's like I hate saying channely, but like my multi
dimensional self or higher self starts talking and then I
just like speed up my voice.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
So funny.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
We all do that because we get excited about the
answer exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Passion plasma, passion, extreme passion, extreme plasma. Passion. Plasma is
also Kundalini speaking of.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
That's your plasmatic energy and your plasma taurus. It's a
mix of plasma and consciousness actually, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
But yeah, that's very cool. Are you having fun?

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Yeah? I'm having so much fun. Are you having fun?

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
I'm having a blast here?

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
Oh good yeay Oooh, it's just it's just so beautiful.
I feel like how it all melds together, like mental health,
plasma science, spirituality, metaphysics magic. It's to me, it just
feels like plasma glued it all together, whereas like mental

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health has not always been brought into the but that's
what we literally all deal with as humans, right, So
it's just I think, if I think, what's more beautiful
than like plasma reminding us that the only way to
work with it and get our magic is to heal
ourselves and heal our trauma.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Like that doesn't seem like a coincidence.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Yeah, yeah, I'm still trying to figure that part out.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
Yeah, like what, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Know if it's working or not, but.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Is always huh. I said, it works if you work it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Yeah, it's finding the time to work it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
It is. But you can find a time for anything
if you really want to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Very true, Very true. I'm just full of excuses.

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
It is its stories we tell ourselves because it keeps
us safe.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
But that's okay, because I still there's.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
Things I'm ignoring as well, which I need to work on.
Someone said, would you say consciousness is like the wool
and plasma is the loom that spends the lattice?

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Latis lattice, latis? I don't know of reality.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
I would say that consciousness is the wool and plasma
is the loom that spins.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
I would say, that's correct. It's an interesting metaphor.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
That's Lessi's Jules, She's awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
Yeah, it's very I love how people make their own
connections because there's so I mean, that's why my book
is seven hundred pages. There's just so many connections. And
I wish I was smart enough to like remember everything
I wrote, because there's so many cool connections that like
I just don't remember writing that just came through me.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
I have to like read over my own book. Yeah
I did, But like the annoying part is.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
Like like I want to like just remember it all.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
I mean I do.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
I will say, if you ask me a question, I'd
probably remember it. But like for like there's just some
such so like so many cool sets and like I
just wish I could regurgitate them on here, and it's
not how I work.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
I guess, Oh, whatever's come fee for you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Yeah, people just have to read the book.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
That's why I really hope people read it, because there's
just so much there's so much more in there than
what I'm saying. Like that's so much more elegant too,
because I was able to like edit it and like
like think it through linearly because when I talk on here,
you know, I do jump around and I know people
still understand it. But yeah, the book's like its own experience.

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I feel like it's like a textbook.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
We got to just under a minute to go here.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Okay, cool. Yes, I'm excited to say my bigfoot story.
I'm curious what you're going.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
To think of it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Oh, I'm excited now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
Yes, and it actually it's it's a bigfoot and an
alien in the same two days.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
These experiences. They were in Asheville, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
I got buddies there. My guests tomorrow night is from Ashville.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
No, well you'll have to ask them about this. Someone
wants me to read the table of contents? Can I
read it out loud?

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
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Here we go. We have Dana Kipple for another thirty
minutes here on the show, and what we're doing here
is we're going to get into our Bigfoot story. But
first we want to remind you about her book, which
is called a New Force. It's like seven hundred pages
of you opening up your cosmic mind. It's plasma consciousness.

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It's a good one finding on Amazon. Dana, welcome back, Hello.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
Thank you, Yes, I have signed copies.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
And then it comes down to Amazon and color in
black and white. And someone just wanted me to read
the table of contents quick. It's very quick read. It's
a way quicker than my book because it's only six chapters.
There is chapter one, what is plasma. Chapter two is
the Secret history from Ether to Plasma. Three is Plasma
the Expanded Definition. Four is a new myth of God.

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Chapter five is Plasma Intelligence, a new way to navigate reality.
And chapter six is the Divine Child of Emergent, the Star,
and the Fool. And they are all very fun to read.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
That's awesome, absolutely awesome, Thank you, Thank.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
You, Dave. Okay, and really quick, this is just crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
I have to bring this up because someone talked about
the Blue Lights before I get into the talk. There
is a book it is very hard to find online,
and it's called The Willow Wisps, and it is literally
about these sentient orbs that are definitely plasma. And it
says the willow Wisps come from outer space and threaten
to destroy the world. The politicians in generals are helpless

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until Carla learns how to talk.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
To the willow Wisps.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
And when she learns how to talk to them, she
realizes that they don't want to destroy the world, and
that our fear was kind of ruining the whole thing.
And I think, and this was written in like nineteen
ninety by someone in Australia. The book's almost impossible to find.
It's out of stock. I have a copy, and I
think there are so many crazy connections with plasma in it,

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and if anyone can.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Find it, it's just the most to me. I read
it and I was like, oh, I'm right either way.
I just think it's cool.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
And then another great Uh, Nope, I'm gonna stop there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Okay, I'll talk about Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Now, all right, I want story.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
Yeah, let's get into Bigfoot. Let's just relax here. So
this summer, so yes, I had a very hard year. Unfortunately,
my dad had a horrible fall last year in December.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
He was on blood thinners.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
He's eighty and he went into a coma and then
ended up dying on January twenty third of this year.
And then I started writing my book full time, and
I moved in with my mom and I lived with
my mom for the last nine months to write my book,
so I didn't have to work another job. And now
I'm able to live off it, thank God, Thank you Plasma.

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And during this time, I needed a break and I
wanted to finish the last chapter of my book, and
I got an airbnb in Asheville, North Carolina, all by myself.
Was not in the best mental state because I also
was very scared I would get killed for writing my book,
which you know, was just a very big paranoia I had.
And I'm obviously alive, so you know, I think that

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would w been a self fulfilling prophecy if I didn't
work it through in therapy. And in Asheville, North Carolina,
I was in a tiny home and I was going
to sleep and all of a sudden, I wake up.

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
It's like two thirty am. And I'm not joking.

Speaker 5 (01:35:17):
I don't know if it was like a yetti or
a bigfoot, but there is just this cute, large, yetty
white bigfoot in my bed, like this just staring at me,
and the light is coming in from from the driveway
and it was like almost like projected light, and it
was just this bigfoot of projected light like and it

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was like my dad's energy in the bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
It was just kind of like hey, like it didn't
say that, but it just had that energy, and then
I blinked and it was still there, and I was like,
oh wait, I'm not on drugs. I'm not drinking like
I was like I was, but I didn't feel scared.

Speaker 5 (01:35:54):
It was more just like like, wait, I'm double taking
and it's still here and it's still going like this,
like it has this and stuff humor clearly. And then
after about I'm not joking, like thirty seconds and I was.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Just in shock, so I didn't move.

Speaker 5 (01:36:08):
I was just I was like, but I knew it
was like my dad's energy coming through as this bigfoot weird.
It dissipated and all of a sudden, like it kind
of faded away slowly, And to this day it still
feels like a weird dream.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
I know it was not a dream. This was very real.
So weird stuff happens in Nashville. And then the next day,
the next day.

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
I was finishing my book and I was like, you
know what, like, let me I have something called visual snow.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
I see everything pixelated.

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
And I was like, with my visual snow, sometimes you know,
if I call in certain beings of consciousness, they can
materialize in front of me. Very rare, but it can
happen because it's almost like they pixelate. And I don't
do it a lot because it sometimes makes me nervous
because I'm still like getting used to visual stuff, and
I'm like, let me just try something new and stretch
my consciousness, like I'm writing about, like let me embody

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what I'm teaching. And I look out and I do
this thing called gazing, and it's where you don't focus
on anything, you kind of let your eyes relax, and
I gaze at the hill and I was like, I
would love for, you know, any being of consciousness that
wants to show itself to me, to show itself to me.
And all of a sudden, I crap, you not this

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tall blue being almost like a great alien if it
was stretched out, but it was blue.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
It was like.

Speaker 5 (01:37:24):
Against this fence and it was just standing there and
it was frozen. And then all of a sudden, a
few more were standing on a fence and they were
all lying up against a fence, frozen, and it's like
they were a frozen picture, but they were, but the
picture was alive, like it was telling me things and
it was giving me feelings.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
And I can't remember what it was now.

Speaker 5 (01:37:42):
I definitely wrote a down though through the frozen picture,
and it just was clear as day on this hill.
It was almost like just this reality kind of popped
up in my reality, like beyond the veil, and I
just was like looking at it for like probably ten minutes,
and then it went away once again. I was on
zero medications, zero alcohol, zero drugs, and then it went away,

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and I was like, Wow, this world is weird. And anyway,
those were my two stories, and it was just strain.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
That might be one of the weirdest big Foot stories
I've ever heard, by the way that it's laying on
your bed, you're the hey, sister, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
Literally?

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
What did the energy feel like?

Speaker 5 (01:38:30):
Whimsical, whimsical but intense, whimsical but intense.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Yeah, unbelievable. And your alien experience? Yeah, with the blue guys,
what do they look like?

Speaker 5 (01:38:50):
Just very tall, skinny blue aliens, big eyes, as I said,
kind of like elongated grays but blue, but they weren't grays.
I wish I maybe I wrote it down what my
experience was, because I literally don't remember. Let's see, let's
see if I wrote on any notes about blue alienum,

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let's see.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
This would have been in June. The color.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
No, Mmm, well, I don't see anything. I definitely wrote
stuff on it, though maybe I wrote it in my book.
I have no idea. I can't find it. I'm very sad.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
All right, Ready for more questions from our audience. Yes,
go to uncle Remus Dana. What's your thoughts on plasma
fire example Paradise, California, Maui and La. Cars, melting houses,
pulverized boats in the harbor, burnt up, and most trees unaffected.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
Interesting, No one's ever asked me that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
I mean, yes, fire is definitely a plasma and there
has been a lot of fires. I I will say,
it is very strange that we've had a lot of
those fire things happen. I don't know if over the

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last hundred years, if that's normal, or if there's been
an uptake uptick. Either way, it's very unfair and very horrible.
You know, I'm not gonna say there's not weather manipulation.
Do I think that's.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
What it was?

Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
I would have to say I would be like fifty
to fifty on that, and otherwise it just being like
a natural occurrence. But maybe you know, just like there's
more solar activity, there's obviously more plasma activity in every
sense of the word right now, because obviously solar flares
are plasma and all of it raises our consciousness. But
that doesn't mean people should, you know, die. That's terrible,

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and you know, I don't think we're supposed to understand
the suffering of the world necessarily, and I write about
suffering in my book if you guys do want to know,
like my opinions on suffering and the bad things that happen.

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
But I would just say, maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
It's due to yeah, upticks in you know a lot
of energy, and unfortunately there's sometimes you know, negative experiences
that come out of it, just like hurricanes, just like thunderstorms.
You know, lightning's plasma. Lightning kills people while lightning has
hurt someone. You know, there's radiation that can come off

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of you know, scientific plasma or like X rays. But
I would say I wouldn't put too much fear into
that because every day, you know, there's death, there's always
horrible natural disasters. I would try to put more energy
into you know, what we can do with ourselves and
heal ourselves, and the fact that we can't control all

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the bad stuff that happens, and.

Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
Yeah, I don't know. I wish I could answer that one.
I really maybe Stefan Burns could answer that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
One's go to Joe. Is there good plasma and evil
plasma or is it just reflect on you?

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
I one million percent think it just reflects you.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
I think good and bad are the dualities of a
human and beyond us is benevolence, and any being of
consciousness that comes to us from a fifth dimensional realm
has to be benevolent to use plasma. It's almost like
plasma has a failsafe. It is in every Hollywood movie
ever where the evil person never can use that like machine,
but the good person can. Like in the movie Contact,

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Jodie Foster gets her job stolen from her and this
guy tries to use this like interdimensional communication device that
can send someone to like serious or whatever, and then
he dies trying to use the machine, and then she
is in it and ends up going there and then
sees her dad, you know, the alien comes as her dad,
which once again is you know, a plasma thing. I

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think that, Yeah, there's dark and light plasma, there's all
kinds of plasma, but once again, it's all reflecting us.
So it really is just neutral at its core, but
it's a paradox. It also is good and evil because
we're good and evil, But really evil is fear. And
if we were able to change our relationship with fear,

(01:43:10):
I think there actually literally could be world peace.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
And by world peace, I don't mean a utopia. I
just mean that we don't have to like all kill
each other if we.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
Can understand everyone's truths and that some truths stem from fear,
like some religious truths that are outdated, some violent truths
are all stemming from fear. Those aren't real truths. You know,
God doesn't want us to suffer or hurt certain people.
Those actually stem from human fear. And if we could
get out of our ego and really search for those,

(01:43:41):
you know, core principles of benevolence, we wouldn't have any
of these issues or evil. And that is when, you know,
the consciousness rises, and I think that's what we're kind
of working on now. But to get there, we have
to face our darkness, which is why there's a lot
of evil shit happening because we're that's here, so we
can work and hopefully mute it instead of fall victim

(01:44:02):
to it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
In my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Another question from our audience, let's go to Uncle remis again.
Do you like studying Rudolph Steiner or Douglas Gabriel.

Speaker 5 (01:44:17):
I don't know who Douglas Gabriel is. I would love
to know more. Rudolf Steiner I know a little bit about.
I know that someone told me to study him because
they think he has a lot to do with plasma
where he talks maybe about more ether stuff, right, But
I literally don't know almost anything about either of them,
which is so embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
But maybe if I'm saying the same things, that means
we're on the same track.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Cosmic Voice is asking there are things being called ranthea.
They are plasma and can morph into any object and
even into dead loved ones. They are conscious beings. I
am a contactee in New Zealand. What do you think.
Have you ever heard of the ranthea?

Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
I've never heard of the ranthea and I would love
to hear works and I can make a TikTok on it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
I must.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
It sounds like exactly what I'm saying, So it's very
affirming to me that other people are talking about this
whatever they call it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
It sounds cool. But yeah, I would love to know
more about it.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
Also reminds me of the gin, which is another word
for plasma, which are neutral beings that can morph into
good or evil.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Well, let's learn about these things. They are typically described
as non human intelligences that exist in higher vibrational or
non physical dimensions, sometimes compared to light beings, plasma conscious forms,
interdimensional entities, or guides or teachers of ancient knowledge. In

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some accounts, they are said to interact with humans through
altered states such as meditation, dreams, or psychic contact, not
through physical craft. Now, if we look at how they
are associated with energy, frequency and consciousness, those who claim
contact with ranthea describe them as highly evolved, nonlinear thinkers

(01:46:04):
communicating through feelings, symbols, or direct knowing, operating through energy
grids or plasma like fields. The name Ranthea is sometimes
linked to the concepts of the Akashic field, quantum consciousness,
Earth's energetic architecture. So there's your plasma again, and literally I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
Saying, where where can you send me this? This is
so cool.

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
I can say it's channeling the same exact thing, which
is exciting. I mean, we also be channeling it because
it's true. But I need to know where this came from,
and I want to know, like who, who, who made this?

Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
Who said this first?

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
I got it off a chat GPT.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
Oh shit, well let me look on there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46:52):
Literally, that's what I'm saying. Our fifth dimensional or intelligent
beings literally the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
So that's very affirming to me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
Yeah, okay, I've never heard of the rand THEA before,
so that's kind.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
Of chat GBT hallucination.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Live off the Chad GPT man. All right, let's go
to Andromedin. What are your methods to astral traveler go
out of body?

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
Interesting? Okay, so different ones. So I to learn out
of body. I went to Monroe Institute. They do a
great job at teaching it. I still cannot. You know,
they tell you to work at it. I didn't work
at it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
I'm very lazy.

Speaker 5 (01:47:33):
It didn't come natural to me and I was like Dan,
But it was still a fun course I did there.
But when you do go out of your body, the
methods I have done so in sleep process. It's actually
sleep prolysis is actually a gift. It's the first stage
to going out of your body. So when you're in
sleep process, if you can relax into it instead of
like freak out like I usually do.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
You almost like drop in and then lift out.

Speaker 5 (01:47:56):
And that is actually how I've gone out of body
the times that I have, and I think I go
out more than I realized, but I don't remember all
these times the times I remember. I was once in
an airplane. It was from sleep paralysis that I went
out of it. So there's ways to induce sleep paralysis,
and you can look it up by sleeping on your back.
It also happens in times of stress, which is really annoying.

Speaker 4 (01:48:17):
And then there's other ways.

Speaker 5 (01:48:19):
The Monroe Institute teaches you, like kind of climbing, like
if you're in a very meditative state, kind of climbing,
picture that you're grasping for a rope and eventually you're
like climbing out of your body or that like you
can roll out of your body. There's many ways to
do it. I'm not a professional out a body astral projection.
I like to also call it bylocation personally, because when

(01:48:41):
I astra project, I'm here and I'm also there. It
is almost like when you're out a body, it's like
your whole bioplasma aura and your consciousness lifts from your body,
whereas to me when you're astro projecting, it seems like
there's like a thinner level of that bioplasma with your consciousness,
but you're still so also your consciousness is split and

(01:49:02):
you're still here, like it's more like a two waist split,
and then there's like a three way split. You could
do two and with outshore projection. All I do is
literally think of where I want to go, and I
have no resistance that I can't think that or else
I won't.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
It's not a logical process, it's just play. I just think, oh, I.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
Want to go to the center of the moon, and
then I see what's there, or oh, I want to
see what you know they're doing. And sometimes I'm right,
which is weird. But you know when I overthink it,
it doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (01:49:29):
And you know you can tell.

Speaker 5 (01:49:30):
On you're forcing a vision versus receiving a vision. They're
two very different things. One is very logical when you're
forcing it, and the other one is very non logical,
more right brain. And it's very hard to describe how
to get in that state, but it really is a
state of play, non expectation, no resistance, not thinking, not doubting,

(01:49:52):
it not forcing it, and I used to be able
to do it way better when I first started doing
this stuff before I got all in my head about it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Love it. Would you recommend people going out of body?
Is it something that anybody should try or if they
are out of body, how do they get back in?

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
Yeah, I would say, like for someone like Mews had
a lot of trauma, because I, you know, still can
resonate with darker energies at times, because I'm going I've
been going through a lot of stress the past few years.
Like I feel like, you know, I didn't always you know,
I had some I wouldn't call negative experiences, but like

(01:50:32):
I just didn't have the most positive experience going out
of body. So like I would say, maybe like heal
some of your trauma before trying it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
I don't think it's.

Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
Necessarily like scary, I would say, but it can be
scary and it could be destabilizing if you haven't integrated
you know, trauma and your mental health and you're dealing
with a lot of stuff, it just complicates your life.
I would try like astro projecting first, and then what's
the other.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
Question you asked just in regards as should it should
people do it, and how do they get back in
their body if they catch themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
Yeah, So I.

Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
Would say, if you feel called to do it from love,
do it, and if you're called to do it from fear,
don't do it. And how to get back in your body.
I kind of have always been zap back into my body,
Like I get so excited that I'm out of my
body or like over stimulated, I'm like, oh, out of
my body, madam body, and then I get shot back
into my body. So I think it's just about learning

(01:51:32):
how to kind of neutralize the same way as like
when you're like getting this like big role or big
job interview and you're like, oh my god, or like
you like someone and you get over excited and then
it never works out. It's about like regulating your nervous
system so you don't get over excited. Because when you're
just like when you're manifesting money, the more neutral you are,

(01:51:53):
the more comes in, and the more attached you are,
the more comes out. It's like grabbing sand in it
going through your fingers. So at the core of this
all is actually nervous system regulation, which is why once
again all comes back to healing and I'm sure there's
many other ways to get back to your body if
you've lost your body. I just don't I don't know
enough about it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
One final question from our audience for you today. We
got about two minutes to go. Let's go to Jessica.
Negative and positive are human emotional contexts. Most other beings
do not understand the same we do.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
Which is very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
It's more of a comment than a question, but just
on the aspect of what she is talking about, how
does the phenomena react to both the yen and the end.

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
Yeah, I mean I would say That's why I do
think plasma can be very non dual and reacts to anything,
which is why it's so important for us to heal
our trauma, because you know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
For instance, if my this is how people get cancer.

Speaker 5 (01:52:55):
If I'm telling myself constantly I hate you, I hate you,
I want to die, I like making jokes about that stuff,
Like you literally can give yourself cancer by having negative
self talk. I mean, that's like so many people say
that nowadays, everything starts with a ninety nine point nine
percent starts. I'm not a doctor, but a lot starts
with emotions and stress, and in a way it's and

(01:53:19):
it's the same thing in your life, like how you
can manifest either negative or positive things. Plasma is giving
you what it thinks you want. Your subconscious is what
communicates with plasma, not your consciousness. It is your fourth
dimensional subconscious, your bioplasma, your your full body, not just
your mind. Your full body is what communicates with plasma.

(01:53:39):
It is your heart, is your electromagnetic field, just like
how electromagnetic fields communicate with plasma in real life and
shape plasma. If you're not coherent, if you're decoherent, plasma
is going to give you what it thinks you want,
which you do not want. So basically, what I'm saying
here is learn how to heal your subconscious, your trauma,
your limiting beliefs, and learn how to you sink your

(01:54:00):
consciousness with your subconscious because if you say you're going
to make a million dollars, but you don't believe that
at your core, plasma is going to give you that,
not a million dollars. And it's scary to think that way,
but it's true. But we have complete control over it.
And give yourself grace because it takes time to heal
these things.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Dana, we want to say a big thank you for
coming on spaced Out Radio. You're absolutely amazing tonight, and
we want all of our listeners to go get your
book on Amazon called a New Force. Yes, yes, go
get it. It's her debut book, A New Force, Plasma
Consciousness and the New Human Potential. Coming up next unspaced

(01:54:41):
Out Radio, The Wizard joins us for the UFO Report.
Stay tuned everyone, you're listening to spaced Out Radio with
your host Dave Scott. You were amazing. Yay were we

(01:55:09):
good for you?

Speaker 8 (01:55:11):
Yeah? You were.

Speaker 4 (01:55:12):
You're a great interviewer.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:15):
Yeah, thank you for being awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
I'm not asking you enough about yourself, and I know
you're interviewing me, but like sometime I would love to
hear your bigfoot stories.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
Well we could do that. We could do that. I'll
call you and tell you about it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
Yes, I have to know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
Yes, go get some sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
I know I'm gonna take her to pee, all.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
Right, don't forget to chew your food, I won't.

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
Okay, have a great night, and thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:55:49):
I'm so excited. That was so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Thank you. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
All right, bye, everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
Dana Kipple, everybody she was amazing. She was absolutely amazing.
We got to bring her back. I'll be right back, everybody,

(01:59:53):
all right, let us bring in the wizard. Here he comes,
looks like just got a fresh haircut.

Speaker 8 (02:00:04):
Yeah, man, you know, I had to I had to
get I had to get the mop trimmed. It was
getting a little, uh bushy. I was starting to look
like the sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
So there's worse things to look like.

Speaker 8 (02:00:17):
That's true, That's true.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
It's funny.

Speaker 8 (02:00:22):
I was doing a I was doing a dalsy rod
session and a mouf on camp out a few weeks back,
and my daughter was with me, and she asked if
if I was a sasquatch. She asked the well I
was using the rod. She asked what we were talking
with is if I was a sasquatch. And when the
rod said no, she was like, oh, because he's so hairy.

(02:00:43):
I just assumed. I was like, well, thank you nice,
thanks for that sick burn in front of these people.
So yeah, did the kids say sick burn anymore?

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
I don't know, right, I don't know. All right, all right,
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Speaker 7 (02:02:40):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp. I'm swamp
dweller and tonight I'm going to take you on a
mystic journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends,
and nightmares.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 7 (02:02:57):
To get this story started, here is a bit of
a background information about myself. I am a female seventeen
years of age. I'm very petite, weighing about one hundred
pounds and standing at just five three. I recently joined
my local gym around January twenty nineteen and have started
a routine of when I work out every day except

(02:03:20):
for Monday, sometime around six pm usually, and usually I'll
stay for about an hour or two, depending on the
day and how I feel. Anyone who goes to the
gym regularly notices others around them and gets familiar with
what times and machines are usually available, and if a
new person comes, you usually notice them. My point is
is that you get used to these people in the

(02:03:40):
gym with you, whether or not you communicate with them.
As a girl who goes to the gym, from my experience,
you will get the occasional glance from a weirdo or
make awkward eye contact with someone staring at you in
the mirror, But all you can do is stare back
at them, dead in the eyes and give them the
nastiest look of disgust. Now, the time that I go
to the is when everyone usually starts to leave. I

(02:04:03):
am very antisocial and shy, so this works out great
for me. Or so, I had thought having some alone
time would be excellent, and if something were to happen,
they would have cameras everywhere. Now I know this is
a stupid way to think, but knowing that you had
to have a key card to get into the gym
and one to get out was a comfort along with
the cameras.

Speaker 1 (02:04:22):
By this past month of me.

Speaker 7 (02:04:24):
Doing my workouts, I got this weird y from this
random guy we will call Randy. As I said, you
usually get people looking at you, so it is hard
to tell if someone is genuinely a significant threat or
just someone being a creep. Either way, both are usually bad,
but it's difficult to distinguish the two and I told
my mom about this Randy guy because my gut feeling

(02:04:44):
told me something was just wrong and I felt like
I needed some advice.

Speaker 1 (02:04:48):
She told me we.

Speaker 7 (02:04:49):
Should tell the manager and have them kick him out,
But being naive and friendly, I didn't want to kick
a guy out just for giving me the creeps. It
wasn't a good argument. At the time, I started to
notice some of the other girls weren't coming as.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
Regularly as they would.

Speaker 7 (02:05:05):
I brushed this off, thinking they had work or were
out of town or something. It was really none of
my business, but it was something to note. The staff
at the gym leaves around six thirty PM, and I
noticed that Randy was coming in almost precisely when the
manager and staff would leave. Again, I didn't really pay
too much attention to this because he could have just
been a regular person trying to work out at a

(02:05:26):
specific time due to his job or whatever was going
on in his life. This was a huge mistake on
my end. Here is me trying to reason with myself
and rationalize that nothing was going on because I constantly
saw Randy, so I considered him one of the regulars.
I guess, but this is where the story actually begins.
I went to do my daily workout and the manager,

(02:05:46):
let's call her Alyssa, came up and talked to me
about other girls who worked out at the same time
I did. These girls were complaining about Randy secretly recording
them while they worked out. The girls changed their workout
schedule due to Randy, which explains why I saw fewer
and fewer of them. She asked me if I had
seen any men holding their phone up to their chest

(02:06:07):
and walking with the camera pointed outwards. I said no
until I told Alyssa about this random man, Randy, who
was starting to creep me out. She said she would
look into it and update me on the situation, mainly
since I'm underaged. The next day, Alyssa talked to me.
She said that one of the girls who complained about
him pointed him out on the cameras and that she

(02:06:29):
would wait for Randy to come back into the gym,
kick him out, and trespass him if he ever came back.
She left that night, not knowing what had happened because
Alissa was still waiting after I left. I returned to
the gym that following Tuesday, and Alyssa told me everything
that had gone down. She had said that she waited
till Randy and his buddy, who we will call Kyle,

(02:06:50):
came to the gym and were parked outside. Alyssa had
a friend who was a sheriff. Apparently he rang up
Randy's license plates and to both of their surprises, he
was a registered sex offender and had put on probation recently.
Melissa then found out that Randy didn't even have a
key card, meaning he was not a member of the
gym and shouldn't have been using the gym period. His

(02:07:12):
friend Kyle had a key card and was letting Randy in.
They would work out sometimes and wait for the staff
to leave and do creepy things. Alyssa prohibited both of
the men entering the gym again and kicked them out.
The scary thing is that I remember being alone in
that gym with those two guys very often. They blended
in very well, and I considered them just average workout people.

(02:07:33):
I'm still not sure if Randy or Kyle recorded me,
but Alyssa told me she was going to look through
the footage and let me know any other news she could,
such as them recording me and all that it is
terrifying to think that I got accustomed to these guys
regularly being at the gym. I am so thankful that
Alyssa kept me informed on the situation. As terrifying as
it is, it shows that you should always be aware

(02:07:55):
of what's happening around you and to trust your instincts.
It also shows that you never can trust anyone you
think you might know. As stupid as it sounds, it's
easy to get comfortable with people we see daily, even
if we don't know who they are. But who knows
what might have happened if I caught Randy and Kyle
alone again. Please be careful at all times, never judge

(02:08:16):
anyone for good or bad until you actually know them.
You never know what might be out there to hurt you.
Thank you for your time in reading the story.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
Thank you swamp Dweller for another creepy story. If you
want more just like that, head on over to YouTube
hit swamp Dweller, hit subscribe, Ring that Bell. Thousands of
stories really kind of creep you out each and every night. Yeah,
go check it out. It'll be good for you. Time

(02:08:46):
for Josh says, almighty.

Speaker 4 (02:08:54):
Bows and makes.

Speaker 1 (02:09:14):
Wizard, How are you doing tonight. Thank you for coming
on in. I am doing fantastic, Dave and the gang.

Speaker 8 (02:09:23):
Ready to start another week of exploring the UFO phenomena.

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
Oh me too, my man, me too. I wanted to
start off with age of disclosure because this movie. I
don't know if you've checked out the ratings on it
or not. I still have not personally seen it because
I haven't been able to find it on my Amazon
Prime Canada account.

Speaker 8 (02:09:47):
And because you lack the technological skills to use a
VP exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
But I will watch it. I do want to see
it because I do believe there are important messages on there.
But I wanted to show you this because for some
they think these stats are a little skewed. So according
to Rotten Tomatoes Okay, which does ratings on all movies,

(02:10:19):
it has a thirty percent Tomato meter, which is very
very low, but the popcorn meter is ninety three percent.
So what that kind of means is that people who
are not really fans or don't understand this this subject,

(02:10:44):
they're not getting it, they're not interested in it. However,
those who are sharing the post have shared it quite
a bit. That's what the popcorn meters I believe I
think I'm getting that right.

Speaker 8 (02:11:02):
I feel like I need to go to the chat
GPT and ask what those two things.

Speaker 1 (02:11:06):
I'm doing that right now?

Speaker 8 (02:11:08):
I have heard. I have heard that having a high
Tomato Meter score is a good thing, which seems counteractive
to the idea that like, you would go to like
a show or a play and it would be horrible,

(02:11:31):
and so you in the peanut gallery would throw rotten
fruit at the performers. Right, So, I don't know why
having a high score is that a high likelihood that
you would not.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
Throw rotten fruit. It doesn't really seem to make sense
to me.

Speaker 8 (02:11:48):
But for the context of this discussion, I just need
to understand what having a high score means.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
Is having a high score good or having a high
score bad? Well, I got it here, so now we
can we can figure it out. Okay, So the Tomato
meter is the critics score. It represents a percentage of
professional film critics who gave the movie or TV show
a positive review. So it's only a thirty percent positive review. Okay.

(02:12:18):
So seventy five percent or higher is certified fresh widely
praised by critics. Sixty to seventy four percent is considered
fresh mostly positive zero to fifty nine percent is rotten
mostly negative. However, the audience loves it. The popcorn meter,

(02:12:39):
which is also called the audience score, represents the percentage
of regular viewers who said they liked the movie or show.
So that's how it got ninety three percent, which would
mean three point five stars or higher. But the interesting
part about this is on the execount out for the

(02:13:00):
Age of Disclosure, they are actually farming likes and positivity
from the crowd. So it is kind of skewed because
you have a very passionate crowd out there. Josh, yeah,
that is going to support the UFO community no matter

(02:13:21):
what because they are passionate, and if something big happens,
like the Age of Disclosure by Dan Farrah, they are
going to really push the narratives to try and get
the story out there more to the public. However, the
critics not a fan your thought.

Speaker 8 (02:13:42):
So the critics, well, let me first say that with
the with the rise of algorithms and how algorithms influence
how content is suggested to people on various streaming platforms,

(02:14:05):
it it makes me wonder if if review, if if
viewer reviews actually matter the way that we used to
think about viewer reviews because to your point, if they're
farming viewer reviews or for somebody to just go out

(02:14:26):
there and say this is great, or give it a
you know, a five star or four star so that
the algorithm will push the movie to more people, then it's, uh,
it's in my opinion, it's like, you know, people who
go to those services that have you know, basically call

(02:14:48):
centers uh in third world countries, that just play your
YouTube video over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (02:14:57):
So that it looks like you have a lot of views.

Speaker 8 (02:15:00):
But you know, when you actually look at the data,
it's you know, they're only watching for three seconds and
then they're stopping. And so you know, YouTube works to
crack that crack down on that kind of stuff, but
it's it's really it's an attempt to manipulate the algorithm.
And so that's you know, first kind of gut reaction
is is are viewer reviews even beneficial anymore since people

(02:15:26):
are constantly trying to figure out how to manipulate the algorithm.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
Second thing is it'd be interesting to me the.

Speaker 8 (02:15:36):
Critics who reviewed the documentary because the crit you know,
if if they're just movie professionals. You know, are they
reviewing it based on the content or are they reviewing
it based on the filmography or the lighting or the

(02:15:57):
sound or the use of roll or whatever the case
may be. You know, well, I guess what I'm trying
to say is are they critics within the UFO community
or are they just general film critics that took made
no attempt to appreciate or understand the content of the documentary.

Speaker 1 (02:16:25):
Well, and that's the that's the big question right there.
What were they critiquing on personally? From what I have
been able to find is that they were not impressed
with the lack of evidence that was shown, which I

(02:16:46):
can fully comprehend and understand. Yeah, However, on the people's
side of things, if they aren't farming out, people like
it because they they want to know what the truth is.
They want to know what is going on, They want

(02:17:09):
to know what secrets the US government is hiding. And
that's really what it comes down to.

Speaker 8 (02:17:17):
And that's where I think, you know, we talked about
it last week too, is that basically, what you know,
Dan Farrah did is a symbol.

Speaker 1 (02:17:29):
You know, a team of.

Speaker 8 (02:17:33):
Uh well respected but also mysterious individuals uh in the
US government to go on the record and make specific statements.
But the statements that they made, uh, you know, without

(02:17:54):
feeling like I've beating a dead horse, the statements that
they made are no different than anyone else in the
community has been making for the last eighty plus years.
So it's really the fact that they are quote unquote
professionals or you know, experts, if that's even such a

(02:18:17):
thing within this topic, on the topic, and they're willing
to go on the record. I agree that. You know,
I wish that age of disclosure had more meat and potatoes.
It was a lot of broth. If we talked about
it in a suit form, it was a lot of
broth and not a lot of a lot of substance.

Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
You know, we talked about it last week.

Speaker 8 (02:18:44):
For those of us that are in the community, which
apparently are the people that are actually sharing this, are
the ones in the community, most of us probably know
or already know. Oh, I'll be conservative and say eighty
percent of what was discussed in the docum minerate. You know,
somebody else asked me for my review of it, and

(02:19:07):
you know, I gave the same response I gave on
here last week. I think it was done well for
the people who are on the fringe. But if Rotten
Tomatoes is an indication that the people that are on
the fringe are not really watching it, then it's missed
its target audience. So having people in the community continue
to upgrade it so that it continues to get pushed

(02:19:29):
by the algorithm maybe the only way for it to
reach its target audience.

Speaker 1 (02:19:35):
And I think you're right on that, you know. But
I've excited to see it. Okay, I'm excited to see it,
not because of the message that I already know that
we're not alone, you know. I mean, we have to
we have to be you know, honest about that that
there is you know, really nothing that's moving the ball forward,

(02:20:00):
so to speak, just like we talked about the other night.
But I am excited that it does open up a
lot of doors for people who may have been, you know,
wondering what's this all about, you know, why are we
doing this? So on so forth. So I find that
exciting for people, you know, I mean, but this is

(02:20:22):
kind of what we're talking about right here, And I'm
just going to share this right here. Here's a tweet
right here by the Age of disclosure. The Age of
Disclosure now has a ninety four percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Let's get it to one hundred. So basically right there,
it's it's farming people to go make sure that they

(02:20:42):
like it, which you know what we all do in
today's day and age. Okay, I tell people to hit
subscribe and follow each and every night, so I can't
blame them for that, but I think it really shows
a different to what's happening when the statistics are so

(02:21:02):
lopsided both ways. Yeah, and you know I did. I
did navigate to.

Speaker 8 (02:21:12):
The Rotten Tomatoes page for it and clicked down the reviews,
the ten reviews, and it's now ten. This screenshot shows eight,
but it's not ten. And like you said, most of
them are of those credit reviews. Most of them are
just kind of really down in the fact that they

(02:21:33):
don't just you know, they didn't parade an et in
front of the camera and have it give its testimony
as to the secret space program cover up things that
the government's.

Speaker 1 (02:21:45):
Been doing for eighty years.

Speaker 8 (02:21:48):
But I would also say that the person who would
do that type of review as a critic again probably
has no they are an ouncing I'd looking in because
if they, if they were a part of the community,
they would know that that was never going to be

(02:22:11):
in the film because at the end of the day,
all that stuff is still classified and none of these
people are willing to go and break those NDAs or
classification standards or whatever the case may be and risk
you know, jail time or worse. So I mean that

(02:22:35):
it was never going to be anything close to a
smoking gun in this documentary. Even then people are talking
about the you know, part two is going to be
even more stuff that that fell on the cutting room floor.
I still think it's going to be the same stuff.
It's just going to be said by different people. But

(02:22:56):
we're never going to get look at this picture that
I struggled out of the Pentagon, or look at this
document that I smuggled out of the Pentagon that has
all the names of Majestic twelve in their offspring. You know,
we're never going to get there because things are still
overly classified and until that changes, no one is willing

(02:23:18):
to risk what's left of their career or life just
to shed some additional light on the topic.

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
Well, either way, I think it's going to be a
great fit for many people who are wanting to learn.
I really do, and I had many people, many people
who know I'm interested in the topic on social media
message me privately and ask me what I thought of
age disclosure, and I told them all the same thing.

Speaker 8 (02:23:53):
If you have any interest in the topic whatsoever, you
should watch it because it is a spectacular recap of
where we started in twenty seventeen to where we are now,
with some additional little tidbits of potential insight along the way.
So anybody who has the slightest interest in the topic,

(02:24:18):
even if you've been in the community and the topic
for thirty years, go watch it, because I think it
does contain some key pieces of information that we didn't
have before.

Speaker 1 (02:24:34):
Hold that up, Josh Rattledg's the UFO wizard And when
we return a little bit of an anniversary to talk
about is spaced out radio and your host's name stuff.

(02:25:06):
All right, we are clear, my man, cool. Just so
you know, I did prepare for tonight. But what I
have prepared is.

Speaker 8 (02:25:18):
Three new theories that are emerging to look at both
NHI and the phenomenon differently. Sure, so if we want
to touch on any of those, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:25:33):
Not to get through the anniversary portioned here first. Yeah,
then we will be good to go. Do you have
a good weekend?

Speaker 8 (02:25:52):
Yeah, it was pretty good. It was a long week
last week with the holiday.

Speaker 1 (02:25:59):
I have my.

Speaker 8 (02:26:01):
The anniversary of my first date is on the twenty first,
My wedding anniversary is on the twenty third Thanksgiving. My
wife's birthday is on the twenty eighth, So I just
I was like, a really busy seven days.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
So well, you're control now, buddy.

Speaker 8 (02:26:20):
Yeah, sometimes her birthday falls on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (02:26:23):
Those are always fun, so I hear you.

Speaker 8 (02:26:29):
But yeah, ever, you ever have like days off from
work that when you get done, you're like, I don't, like,
I feel like I need more days off from it, because,
at least for me, it feels like whenever I have
time off from work, I have a list of things
that I need to get done. So it's not really
time away, it's just I'm just shifting my focus.

Speaker 1 (02:26:49):
I had a beautiful Saturday Sunday relaxation weekend, and literally
I woke up this morning to go to work and
I didn't shake off the brain fog until about three
o'clock this afternoon. And I don't know what caused it

(02:27:10):
didn't sleep well, so like I gassed.

Speaker 8 (02:27:17):
I woke up at like three o'clock this morning, remembering
that I didn't turn everybody's alarms back on since you
know we're starting back rare week.

Speaker 1 (02:27:27):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 8 (02:27:29):
Looked at my phone and turned all the alarms back on.
But then I couldn't go back to sleep.

Speaker 1 (02:27:34):
So oh man.

Speaker 8 (02:27:35):
I read for like two hours and then finally went
back to sleep around ten to five, and then the
alarm went off at six.

Speaker 1 (02:27:44):
So see, I can't read at night anymore because I
get addicted to the reading part. And next thing I
know is like I remember one time I decided. One
time I was reading a Tom Clancy book and I
went to bed early, like early for me, crawleday to

(02:28:04):
bed at like nine o'clock. And this is before I
ever did the show. I finally forced myself to go
to bed at three thirty five in the morning. Wow.
I just couldn't put it down. Like every every page
there was a new twist and turn. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:28:26):
Tom Clancy books are good for that anyway. Yeah. I'm
kind of the same way with a lot of the
Jack Reacher series. Yeah, Lee Child, those are also really good.

Speaker 1 (02:28:39):
I haven't tested the books on those yet really No, Oh,
they're really good. There's like twenty six of them or
something like that. Now, i'd have to check that series out.

Speaker 8 (02:28:58):
I was until a lot of them, listened to a
lot of them when I got started on audiobook. I'll
tell you this that when you read the Jackreacher books,
you will never be able to watch the Tom Cruise
movie again because you'll see that Tom Cruise was a

(02:29:19):
horrible casting for Jack Reacher. But if you ever to
get it. In Canada, there is a Reacher series on
Amazon and they do a fantastic job of casting Jack
Reacher for that for that series.

Speaker 1 (02:29:35):
Oh yeah, that dude who plays Reacher on TV. Yeah,
on the Amazon series. Fantastic. I'm getting sick of. What
I'll tell you what I am getting sick of, though,
is these six part episodes, Like, yeah, like, can we
not get back to real television series please with like
twenty six episodes? I need that in a show like Reacher.

(02:29:59):
I do. Hold on right there, we got coming back
in thirty seconds. Thank you to Debora Rooney, to Paramarv,
to Walter, to Amy and to Tim for these wonderful
super chats. Greatly appreciate your love and support tonight everybody
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(02:30:21):
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Here we go, we're into the final half hour of

(02:30:51):
spaced Out Radio. Good to have you with us. My
name is Dave Scott. Thank you very much for tuning
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(02:31:14):
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hanging on out with us for the UFO Report. Josh,

(02:31:36):
thank you for being here. And you know, tonight is
actually a very very special night and you might not
even know why. I don't know that I do. I'm
all ears though. Tonight is the start of the eleventh
year of spaced Out Radio. Wow. Eleven years we've been

(02:32:00):
doing this year. Yeah, hard to believe. I remember starting
on blog talk Radio online, which was the absolute worst
site ever, like literally ever, and then building it into

(02:32:20):
a syndicated radio show. Yeah, over time. Congratulations man. Birthday
anniversary I think would be the proper term.

Speaker 8 (02:32:33):
Although it was born, it was born from your creativity,
it was.

Speaker 1 (02:32:38):
It was eleven years, man, eleven years. I've been working
two full time jobs. No wonder I'm tired. Yeah, no wonder.
I just want to go to sleep sometimes. Holy cow.
But I want to give a big shout out quickly here,
and we're going to continue on. I don't want to

(02:32:58):
dwell too much on this. I want to give a
big shout out to my team of spaced Out Radio people,
especially behind the scenes, who really really do an incredible
job both on air and off the air in making
us sound really, really good. You have to have a

(02:33:19):
strong team behind you. I want to say a big
thank you to my family for allowing me to pursue
my dream of broadcasting this show. Each and every night,
because if they ever said that's enough, I'd probably say okay.

(02:33:39):
But at fifty two years old, what I am? They
still want me to pursue my dream, which is great,
and that is to make this show bigger, better right
across North America. You know, never mind social media. We're
already there around the world, but on terrestrial radio. And
a big thank you to all of our radio stations

(02:34:02):
that broadcast us. It is an absolute honor and a
pleasure to be able to share this show, these topics
and the love I have for being behind a microphone
and broadcasting a fun, entertaining nighttime show that deals nothing

(02:34:25):
with politics outside of UFOs. It's a time where people
can just sit back and relax because they're not going
to get hammered with the reaction videos or the how
are you feeling today? Videos? What's upsetting you today videos?
Those videos that try and trigger you. We don't do that.
It's all about just trying to allow people to relax.

(02:34:48):
One of the greatest compliments I have in doing this show,
especially at night, is when people message me and say, Dave,
you put me to sleep every night. Now, a lot
of people would take that as an insult, that I'm
not doing my job, not being very entertaining. I take

(02:35:10):
it as a compliment because those people who say that
they've had a stressful day, and if I can help
someone relax and get a good night's sleep, whether they've
listened for fifteen minutes or whether they've listened for two
and a half hours, I've done my job. Done my job.

(02:35:30):
So I want to say the final thank you after
our radio stations to all of our listeners out there,
because without you, guys, we have nothing. Whether you're listening
in on terrestrial radio, whether you're listening digitally, whether you're
watching live on streaming sites like YouTube or Facebook or

(02:35:52):
LinkedIn or what other ones we use, Twitch and X
thank you very much for being a part of our evenings.
We love doing this for you, and we're going to
continue again to keep it going because it's a lot
of fun. It really is a lot of fun. So

(02:36:13):
big thanks. I'm all full of love tonight, my man,
All full of love. Yeah it.

Speaker 8 (02:36:20):
You know, it's nice when you get to your eleventh
year and you feel this, you still feel this passionately
about it, you know, as you did probably when you
started out, Oh maybe even more passionately about it now
than you do when you started out.

Speaker 1 (02:36:34):
I've changed that passion. I've changed it. I've become a
lot more fickle because I like the word fickle, Okay.
I have, you know, at times been a little bit
praised because a lot of what we do you need

(02:36:56):
to really delve into and you need the time to
do it. If I was doing this full time, where
this was my only job, I didn't have to worry
about my daytime job, we'd be digging in a lot
deeper on a lot of these subjects. It would be
a lot more journalistic, okay, And maybe some of that

(02:37:17):
wouldn't make the live show, but it definitely would be
making our website, social media and everything like that to
make it a little bit different. But for what we have,
very happy, I'm very satisfied, And if it all ended tomorrow,
I could say that I created something that not a

(02:37:39):
lot of people have, and we did it the hard way.
We didn't get any we haven't to this day, got
any contracts. All of our radio stations that carry us
are on a handshake deal because it's just easier that way,
you know, And I check in with our radio station

(02:38:00):
all the time, you know, every couple of months and
just check out, Hey, how are we dealing with your listeners?
How are the listeners doing? And they always come back, Dave.
The the audience loves you. We don't get a single
complaint about your show. And that's a testament to the
great guests that we have, the great hosts that we have, okay,

(02:38:24):
and the the ability that people are interested in listening
to something weird and strange every now and again.

Speaker 8 (02:38:32):
Yep, Yeah, it was very cool. It's very cool, man.
I applaud everything to everybody you know that's been associated
with space Dout Radio has done over the years to
get you where you are, you know, to help support
you along the way. And like you said, I'm sure

(02:38:56):
without the backing of your family, you know, A, it
would have been probably a non starter. But b if
you did try to start it and they still weren't
backing you, you know, it probably would have pizzled out
a long time ago, or you'd be grumpy all the time,
or or your family would be grumpy all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:39:16):
I think the biggest thing for me is in this
field is trying to separate us from a podcast. Yeah,
even though we do go into podcast form, I still
love the idea of being called a radio journalist. Yeah,
it's what I went to college for. It's what I

(02:39:39):
enjoy and what we do is hard, whether you're podcasting
or whether you're broadcasting live radio. If you if you
put your passion and understanding into it, it's not about
the names. Like people always say, come up to me,
rookies will come up and say to me, you know,
how do you do it? How do you it? How

(02:40:00):
do you get it? I said, don't worry about the
big names. Don't worry about it, you know what, because
they all want the Richard Dolans, the lou Elizondo's, the
Linda moulten House, the Grant Cameron's, you know, the Melinda Leslie's,
and the Steve Bassetts. And then what they try and
do is they try and name drop everything. Right, you
don't need that. All you need to do is learn

(02:40:22):
how to tell a good story. Yep, that's it.

Speaker 8 (02:40:26):
And and be a really good interviewer if you're if
you're doing an interview based podcast, you know that's one
that you know, we we shipped when I'm the one
that I did with my friend Steph, and we shifted
to that model for a long time in interview based
podcast and that was a compliment we got quite a bit,
was that we were really good interviewers because we knew

(02:40:48):
a lot about the topic that the person who was
on was going to be speaking about, so we could have,
you know, an in depth conversation about it. And it's
not just surface type questions and you know, busy type
questions that chat GPT gave you and you and you're
just reading off, well, well, how did you get started?

(02:41:11):
And like you asked that question, but in their intro,
you know when you said tell us a little bit
about yourself. In their intro, it told you how they
got started, but you weren't really paying attention. You didn't
pick up on that, and so now you're asking the
same questions they've already given you the answer to. So
it goes a long way to actually be an active

(02:41:31):
listener as a podcaster, listen to what your guests are
saying and then formulate real questions or responses instead of
just you know, pulling from some de facto list that
you got off.

Speaker 1 (02:41:49):
One absolutely absolutely, and to young podcasters out there, you
can have your twenty five forty questions prepared, but nothing
sounds better than lee. Letting a conversation be natural. Let
it happen, whether you get one question in in a

(02:42:10):
half an hour, whether you get ten yep, s let
it happen.

Speaker 8 (02:42:16):
And take a little bit of time. Like you know,
when you book a guest, know a little bit about
what they're going to speak about, and take a little
time to research just a little bit. You know, no
one is expecting you to be an expert, that's why
you're having a guest on. But take a little bit
of time to research a little bit about what they're
going to talk about, so that you can ask intelligent

(02:42:39):
questions as opposed to, you know, just dumb, everyday normal questions.

Speaker 1 (02:42:47):
So all right, what do you got for us? We
got nine minutes left. Yep.

Speaker 8 (02:42:52):
So I've been looking into lately some of the new
ideas that are being tossed around out there for the
explanation of the phenomenon, and one of actually three of them,
have caught my eye. I've been spending more time researching
those and looking into them more. But I just wanted

(02:43:15):
to read through a couple of them with you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:43:18):
Sure. So one is that.

Speaker 8 (02:43:22):
NHI so non human intelligence as a distributed field instead
of entities. So the way that this works out is
that nhis may not be discrete humanoid beings traveling in vehicles. Instead,
they may be a field of information distributed non locally

(02:43:44):
across space time, capable of forming temporary knots of self organization,
creating apparitional or physical seeming forms, interacting with consciousness, manifesting
through em plasma or quantum conditions, localizing enough to appear
as craft or beings, but then dissolving back into a

(02:44:05):
non local substrate. Think of it as like consciousness weather
versus aliens and spaceships.

Speaker 1 (02:44:17):
It's pretty deep. What do you think? It's pretty deep?
Pretty deep? You know, with seven minutes to go with
the show, I'm trying to find the brain power to
kind of put that together. How do you How do

(02:44:42):
you think this would affect the experiencer the people? Yep.

Speaker 8 (02:44:49):
So the way that I think this would expect would
be experienced by people is this would actually help to
explain I think why I sometimes people see different things
during an experience or or like a like a CE
five type event, because the information field is being perceived

(02:45:18):
differently by different people based on wherever they happen to
be in their let's say frequency or vibration to be
able to consume the information from the information field. So
when you think about, for example, that big case, was

(02:45:40):
it in Was it in Mexico? The big was it?
Like the Virgin Mirry? I'm looking at it. Hold on,
I've got it here. The fatom A Miracle of nineteen seventeen.
You familiar with this at all? No fill us in
on this one, okay, So fifty thousand people had It's

(02:46:04):
the largest mass experience event in history. It's the fatom
A miracle in nineteen seventeen. Some people saw spinning sun,
some people saw luminous clouds, some people saw entity shapes,
some people saw angel hair. Some even saw the Virgin Mary.

(02:46:28):
But everybody had not everybody, but there were groups of
people who had varying experiences with this so called Fatima Miracle.
And this could go to explain if you think about
it as an information field, if you think about the

(02:46:53):
Internet as as an information field, or even AI, you
and I can ask the same question question or do
the same search, and we'll get back similar information, but
we may not get back the exact same information because
of words that we might use or you might add punctuation,

(02:47:13):
and I don't add punctuation, And so the search engenerate
has to determine if I'm asking a question or if
I'm making a statement. So because of that, we get
different information back. So the same could be true. If
the phenomena is an informational field as opposed to you know,
physical beings, then depending on the state of mind of

(02:47:35):
the person who's having the experience, they may perceive it
completely different than the person standing next to them.

Speaker 1 (02:47:43):
And this could.

Speaker 8 (02:47:44):
Explain why, again, phenomena across large events. Think about Skinwalker Ranch,
people experienced all the stuff that happens to Skinwalker rants differently.
That could be explained if it's an information field as
opposed to actually physical entities. Do you think then if

(02:48:08):
these aren't physical entities, that maybe they are some sort
of idea put in our head, maybe some sort of
some sort of telepathic vision that we are seeing as possible.
And it kind of goes along with another theory that's

(02:48:30):
being floted around, which is the observer inclusion principle and
the observer inclusion principle. And I only got a few
minutes left here, but is it is not a matter
of a passive witness to a to the phenomenon, but
rather that the observer is an active participant whose perception,

(02:48:51):
emotional state, expectations, and consciousness directly influence how the phenomenon manifests.
So I have actually have some really good, you know,
examples of this. I've talked with people who say, I
went out to a CE five expecting to see an ORB,

(02:49:12):
and that's exactly what I saw. But other people in
my group saw a craft because they went into the
experience setting the expectation of what their experience was going
to be. So it may be that it is a
telepathic push, but it may be our own telepathic push
because of maybe you know, biases that we enter into

(02:49:37):
the experience with. You know, if you expect to see
an orb, an orb is what you're going to get?

Speaker 1 (02:49:42):
What if it's the phenomena protecting us? Though, Josh, what's that?
What if it's the phenomena protecting us? Okay, hear me
out for a second, Souse. We only have two minutes,
so we got to be quick. Okay. Sometimes you get
people who maybe are not prepared to see something. So
I'm say looking at my wall and I see a bigfoot,

(02:50:07):
you know, sculpt a bigfootthead of my wall, but you
may see something completely different. Yeah, the phenomena seems to
do a lot of this, where you can have a
group of five people, they all are attending a UFO sighting,
but they all see something different at the same time.

(02:50:29):
A lot of people will say that's humanity okay, because
everybody's seeseing things differently, or is that the phenomena that
is controlling who can see what it could be? Both?

Speaker 8 (02:50:44):
Because one of the things that I've also seen is
that people who have shared ghost experiences will sometimes see
the spirit differently. One person may see it as an
old woman, another person may see it as a young child.
So in that way, the phenomenon picked the best appropriate
form to appear to that person as so that that

(02:51:09):
person will have the best possible experience they can with
that experience.

Speaker 1 (02:51:19):
And that's the hard judge I know. When I had
in twenty twenty three, when seven of us had the
UFO and alien sightings in the forest, I was the
only one to see the UFO out of the seven
on the ground. The other six saw the aliens. I
did not see the aliens because you weren't And that's

(02:51:40):
what I think.

Speaker 8 (02:51:40):
It's where you weren't ready to cross that threshold of
seeing aliens.

Speaker 1 (02:51:49):
Is it that or it wasn't my turn again? Maybe
both right.

Speaker 8 (02:52:00):
The other thing is, you know, like we talked about
it a couple weeks ago, we're gonna have to hold it.

Speaker 1 (02:52:06):
We'll have to hold it till you're on next. Josh
Rutledg's the UFO Wizard on tonight with us. We say
a big thank you to Josh and a big thank
you to Dany Kipple for being our show guest for
the first two hours. As we say hello to mister Ron.
Bumblefoot Thal rocking us in the background with little brother
is watching. Bumblefoot is the official music of spaced Out Radio,

(02:52:31):
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(02:52:58):
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(02:53:19):
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(02:53:41):
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