Dec. 2/25 - The Encounters with Christian MacLeod - Spaced Out Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
spaced Out Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott and
we got a real handsome figure on tonight. Christian McLoud,
the Cryptid Guy, is here along with the Cryptid Gal Christine,
and we're in roll call right now, so just bear
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(00:25):
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Speaker 2 (01:21):
Are you ready to hear your mister, Voice of the Knights.
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up for you tonight, The Monsters of the with the

(03:01):
American Cryptid himself. Yeah, what do we call him? We
call him Christian McLeod around here. Yeah, he doesn't get
the American cryptid around here. You know, we got to
make sure that his ego stays straight and is lovely, lovely, lovely,
lovely partnering crime. Christina will join us as well. Then

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in our number three swamp dweller will be here. We
usually have Robin Haynes, but due to a family emergency,
she couldnt attend, So Christian and Christina are going the
distance with us tonight, which means I could guarantee this
It will be an extremely fun and enjoyable show for

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all of you. So let's get right to it. Yeah,
I'm actually ready. You know, sometimes when you're working on
computer and radio, your fingers don't work very well when
you're trying to hit the button. So that's why you
get these delays and you get these overwords that you
don't really need. But we finally got it. Christiap McLoud

(04:05):
is the director and lead investigator of ACAPS, bringing over
twenty five years of boots on the ground experience into
the cryptid research, paranormal investigations, and high strangeness across North America.
He has a deep respect for Native American tribal culture, folklore,
and legend, while blending ancient wisdom with modern investigative techniques.

(04:27):
Christian's background also extends into some of the most mysterious
and controversial arenas of this subject, like the occult UFOs,
forbidden archaeology, freemasonry, and government cover ups. He's a pretty
smart guy, has a degree in psychology from and with
a minor in criminology from the University of South Florida,

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and a Master's of Arts in teaching from Western Carolina University.
But the funnest part of his day, night, and each
and every day and week, month year is is that
he gets to investigate the high strangeness of what's really
hiding out there with his lovely partner, Christina. We bring
him both on now, Christiop McCloud, Christina, nice to have

(05:11):
you both here. How are you hold on? Let me
unmute you here? See the buttons just aren't working.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
There we go there it is? Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
We got you now? How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
My friend Christine? Is she? Can you hear her? Can
you hear me now?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
We could actually hear you today. It's actually nice to
have you both here, thank you very much. And you know,
hard to believe we're just like three and a half
weeks away plus from Christmas. Like, where did twenty twenty
five go?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
We're really just talking about that today. I can't believe
it's sort of December blue way.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
I'm gonna have to get used to writing twenty six now.
I just got used to write twenty five.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I hate that, I really really hate that. That bugs me.
Is for at least the first three four months. I'm
always up.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
I'm with you. I think everyone.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I think everyone's got like some kind of lag time
or they got to get the date right again.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
It's always one of those. It's just change, you to
keep changing.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
It's just good, so ridiculous, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, I don't. I can't even I mean, what this
is our what six? This is our six show?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Something like that.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, so we've been I mean it's six months in
a row. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
For some reason, you know, I didn't want to bring
this up on air, but for some reason, I guess
our check got lost.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I know, you know, checks in the mail. It's always
in the mail, you know. That's all I'm gonna say, is.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I believe you.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Well, I know, you know, it's it's it's h is
it time differential between Canada US.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
It just takes a while.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, our male system was on strike for three.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
In the snow and uh, you know the polarity of
the earth and everything.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
So it happens. It happens sometimes, you know, the the
moose and the reindeer don't do their job.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
I was gonna blame the moose.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I was probays the moose.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Damn moose. I had. You know, my uncle was convinced.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
My uncle was an interesting guy, but he got you know,
I'm from Maine originally, and he got in a car
accident with a moose and he was convinced that moose
is trying to kill him.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
They he thought that moose is trying to kill him.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
It's not surprising moose are evil.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Convinced that moose he actually thought it was stalking him.
He said it followed him home, it was around his house.
Ended up buying like a three oh eight weather be
elephant gun.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah. They're huge.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, the moose around here, they what do they call them?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I forget what the what type of moose are here?
But they get up to like fourteen fifteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Big gass moose. Yeah, I believe that's the Latin.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
They're big.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
They're big moose.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
They're not as big as the Alaska the Yukon move I've.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Never seen a mo even when you lived up in
New England. Yeah wow. No mo came face to face
of the moose once up in the White Mountains in
New Hampshire.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Scared to the Jesus out of me, I end up falling
down half like a half a side.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Of a mountain.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Bull moose will get up to about fifteen hundred pounds huge,
but if you get if you get into the Alaskan
Yukon moose, they will get like two thousand pounds plus.
Like they are massive.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I just watched a video where like a full boom
bull moose took on a grizzly bear, and I thought
this guy was gonna be lunch. I think it stuck
its horns on the side of the grizzly and lifted up.
He actually see the bear get picked up, and then
he kind of threw it off. I think he killed
the bear.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
It wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Really, it's amazing to power those things. They're all muscle man.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
The technicianal term is big ass moose. Thanks, sorry, Core,
feel free to use it.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
More. Moose killed more than bears.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, yes, yeah, moose actually kill I think it's on average,
I'm just looking it up here, seventeen to twenty two
people a year, whereas bears is below that.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I know.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Like I said, I'm telling you, my uncle was a
smart guy, but he was convinced that moose. He said,
it hit his car on the side. The horns went
through the door, that pierces lung on this side.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
He said, just kept like you're pile driving him and said,
took the car off the road. These things are incredibly strong.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
And then like waited for him to climb out, and
by that time the ambulants of everything came.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Again.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
That family drinks.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I'm gonna check my stats here for a second. I
think I may have got that wrong.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
They did, they did. Let it go.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, moose kill. Most years have zero fatalities with moose,
but on average they kill up to three people a year,
So my stats were wrong. And how many do bears? Yeah,
they're about even bears. You have a slightly bigger number.
So black bears will cause one to two deaths in
North America per year. Grizzly bears will do one to

(10:26):
three deaths per year, Polar bears zero to one death
even though they're the most big and violent, so they're
pretty even.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I believe that the stat on the black bears black beerris.
I've only heard a couple of deaths from black bears
this year. Really, I think that's that black bearris is wrong,
because I'm pretty sure like Carolina, we get one or
two deaths a year from alone.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
That's just our state. So I don't know about that one.
I have to double check that one.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Did you hear the story a couple of weeks ago
from what happened just northwest of me. So it's rutting
season and it's getting close to winter. So these brainiac
teachers at an elementary school from a place called Bella

(11:17):
Coola decided to take their kids on a nature hike
and then in the middle of the of the hike,
they decided to, you know, have lunch, and all of
a sudden, mister Grizzly comes out of the woods and

(11:38):
didn't like it. Mall's a couple of kids, Malls a
couple of teachers. Before the pepper spray and the bear
bangers got them away. Okay, how do you do that
in that area? See the problem that we have here
in Canada is and this true story. You could actually

(12:02):
look it up. It's a scary, scary story because it's
only about a three and a half hour drive northwest
from me where this happened. And the grizzly bears in
BC since they stop the hunting, they're protected species here
right now, the grizzly bears are getting more and more
challenging with people and black bears you could scare away,

(12:25):
no problem, unless it's a mama with her cubs or
just a real hungry or emaciated bear, okay, or you
upset the bear. I mean there are reasons, but a
black bear nine times out of ten is going to
run away when it sees you A grizzly bear, not
a chance. Everything is food, especially when they are getting

(12:46):
ready for hibernation. Children are a perfect, perfect source of
protein for grizzly bears. Yeah, and so they literally stopped
on the trail for lunch. No guns, nothing to protect

(13:08):
them besides bear spray because up here we're not allowed
to take children on nature hikes with protection. So you
take them into grizzly bear area, feed them lunch on

(13:28):
the middle of a trail. Yeah, them Canadians are smart sometimes.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
And then you got the kids giggling and laughing.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Absolutely and what is that sound?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
And grab one just to do it?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
And what does that sound like to a bear, a
child laughing lunch. It sounds like a deer or a
rabbit in distress.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
From the food.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yes, that's why I'm a firm believing. See, here's the problem.
We get too concerned about all these predators. You know
their numbers, Like in Florida years ago, they're worried about
the alligators and they stopped hunting alligators. Now there's more
alligators than it's ever been and they're all over the
damn place. And you know they're worth I mean, they're worthless.

(14:17):
I mean the only good thing, the only time is
on the all good reptiles of belts. I don't care
what anyone says. You don't need them. They're worthless.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
And all they do now is they get eaten by
these bow constrictors.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
They got let out during Hurricane All those pythons, all
those pythons are taking over the everything. So you got
pythons alligators now and now you can hunt the pythons.
I think they get twenty bucks apiece with the pythons.
I just go in there, a couple of sticks of dynamite. Boom, boom,
there you go. No problem.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
The problem is the pythons are getting huge. People have
released those like reticulated pythons and stuff over there, and
Burmese pythons.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
And they're getting just they're bigger than anacondas.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh yeah, and the best way of FIXEDSS with a
stick of dynamite. I'm talking. I have them thinking of it.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
They destroyed the environment man, and everyone's oh, the environment
of the environment, and then you got these reptiles around.
We might you might as well have Jurassic Park in
the Everglades in Florida, because it's it's like that bad.
I mean, there's stinks all over that. It's it's horrible.
Like I said, you got you know when the federal
governments painting twenty bucks up helt or of skin for
aw a snake and there's people making a living doing that.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
That does there's a problem right there in there. But
it's gonna be the same thing. Grizzly bears before. You know,
there's gonna be more of those dang bears around. You know,
you just gonna blast them. Man, they have no fear
of human You gotta get these these things. You've gotta
have a fear of humanity.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
I was out hunting this past Sunday and the last
two Sundays I've seen the biggest wolf tracks I've ever seen.
So two sundays ago we found a five and a
half inch wolf track. Wow, and then does not something
else and then completely different area. There were two wolves

(16:02):
walking along a along a path and those wolf prints
on either side like like on the you know, you
got the vehicle trail on either side there. Those wolf
prints were six inches each. I've never seen wolf tracks

(16:23):
at day.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
That's a that's that's yeah, freaking dire wolf.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's that's I mean, how many How deep were the
trends because that's that's gotta be that's a huge animal.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
They were fresh in the snow, probably from overnight because
there was a little bit of snow inside the print.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
How deep were that? I mean was it deep? Was
it going all the way to the ground?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I mean there was there was only there was only
an inch of snow, right, so we're not We're they're
not going to be too deep at that point. But yeah,
it's pretty crazy, pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's huge. Yeah, it sounds like a werewolf, right. I
think a dog man myself.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, that area where we are there has been on
the other side of the mountain dog man sightings there.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
We we that is the one. We're getting more dog
man reports now than we ever did. We're getting more.
I honestly think of something with that because even like
on the stories you hear or like on YouTube and
it's it's all dog man now.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
It's like all these reports.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I know most of are fake and fiction, but some
of them, you know, I not everyone's making up stories
like this. You know, it's it's gotta be something to it.
But I think that's that's gonna be like the next
big thing. And I know it's popularity. He's been creeping
up there. Big Foots still number one guy, but he's
closed the night. Brad's real quick. You know, he's uh,

(17:55):
he's getting more and more popular. I'm just curious as
to see. Uh, it's it's one of these things where
dog bands all over the places Canada. You know, he's
in South America, all over the Western United States, all
over the you know, the breadfel Southern United States. We've
got tons of reports from Louisiana, Texas, California.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I mean, it's crazy. He's all over the place.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
So I'm just I'm just curious to see if that's
every gonna pop out and we'll get the truth on that.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, you know it's funny you say that because a
few weeks ago, one of my new upcoming research partners,
she lives about forty five minutes north of me, and
where she goes and investigates paranormal there have been in
the last few months a couple of what they call
werewolf sightings there.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
And well, and I closed, Dave, I know it's good
say too, But like I said, in Ashville Asheville, North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
You want there's actually people call me.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
On my hunter number. Uh, tell me they've had werewolf encounters.
They've seen them on the street. They've seen them like
in the back of the woods, and we're talking, uh,
less than two miles from in town.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
And it's it's just one of these things where it's
just you know, I've never had reports like this. I've
never had people calling and say I saw a werewolf.
You know, I've had people tell me, oh, you know,
we think seem baked with.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Things like that.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
But for some reason, it's just it's just been blown up.
Even if you're on YouTube and.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Just google Ashville and werewolves, all these stories pop up.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
And it's crazy because half of them, I know, you know,
half of them I've heard the reports about and it's
just it's it's just insane. But uh, you know, when
when I talked to my friends on the police force
or the sheriff's department, I can't get an answer. They
don't tell that. I get one says that's ridiculous, or
that's not what that was, or we don't know or

(19:55):
I never heard of that. But it's it's very interesting
because you just never know what's going on because it's
it's like cyclical. It's just a couple of years ago
we were getting a lot of big foot reports.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Now it's all dog man.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, how do you think that that's just a trend?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I don't know, man, I.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
You know, I think it's situational and it was also regional,
like if you're if you're in a place that's just
seen bigfoot, report.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Just say, like you know, eight Canyon by Mount Saint Helens, all.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Right, that's historically been nothing but big foot reports since
you know, the early eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
So you're gonna start geting dog band reports there.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Now, maybe that's a little weird, but you go places
like Texas and they have both of them.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Louisiana, there's tons of both of them.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
They think the Honeyline swamp monsters, people that think that's
a dog man. So you know, it's just you don't know.
I'm telling you right now. In North Carolina, we definitely
have a dog band situation from Appalachia, you know, on
the Appalachian Trail, and that's.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Just get We're getting more and more reports.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
There's all kinds of weird stuff happening in these mountains,
and this that the truth of it is that we're
never going to get the truth of what happens.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
You know. You know when someone says.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Oh, this person was missing or they were found and
you know, natural causes, and nine times I tell to
hear that I don't believe it. There was a there
was a person you just found not too far from us,
you know, in the backwoods. And uh, two days after
the body was found. It wash, it's not a big deal.
It's natural causes. But prior to that, they're making this

(21:26):
you know, it was just like there was a battle
scene out there. You know, there's all this stuff and
you know it's all here. Say, no one knows what
the truth is. But you never get, you know, the
whole thing. You never get the whole story.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
So you get like two days, there'll be a forty
eight hour lag time and say, oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
She got natural causes, he got natural causes. Well, what
was all the hypool? You know, why'd you guys shut
all this down? You know, and you had all these
teams in there, and there's all these forensics in there,
and there's no there's natural causes, but you're bringing out,
you know, all this equipment. It just doesn't make sense.
It just doesn't make sense. And that's just that's something

(22:01):
we deal with all the time. I still can't get
a number, accurate number, and how many people go disappearing
on the Appalachian Trail. I've been in touch with the
department in Natural Resources, Parks department. No one, you can't
get in, you can't get a real answer, And it's
just it's one of these things where you're never going
to get that answer because they don't want you to know.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Do you believe that there is a difference between the
dog man and the were wolf?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I don't believe were wolves. I don't. That'swer the doubest thing.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I've been doing a crypton paranormal investigation now for twenty
twenty seven years. I have seen some things that have
changed my mind, and I was like, I'll tell you
someone that we know, Robin has changed my opinion on
a few things. But I find it hard to believe
that a human being can transmografy himself into an animal
or they.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Go to that guy. I just don't buy it. I
just and I.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Know it's one of the oldest legends there is, but
I think that has to do with Sino Sep Flyer
dog Man.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I just I just don't buy it.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I'm more inclined to believe vampire and vampirism over like anthropy.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I just there's just no, it just doesn't watch with me,
you know.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
And like I said, I'll buy a lot, you know,
I believe in a lot of weird stuff, and there's
stuff I believe in it. I believe now that ten
years ago, I said, that's no way, that's ridiculous. I'll
give some credence too, but I just don't buy, you know,
any I just buy the transformation thing.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
No dance possible.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
We got it here a minute ago. The American Cryptid
is here tonight, Christian McCloud and his lovely partner, Christina,
who goes out hunting with them. These dog man sightings
the okay, why do you think there's an explosion of
them out of you know, because what I've noticed since
I've been in this field and we're now into year eleven,

(23:55):
is when I first started in this field, everything was paranormal.
Then it became everything UFO, then everything bigfoot, and now
we're getting into dog man. Twenty five second answer. Do
you think it's just something that is trending because it's fancy.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
No, I think it's trending because there's more and more
sightings and people are they're less afraid to report them.
Now there's you know, twenty years ago you started saying, hey,
I saw something in the woods, You're basically told to
shut up.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
It was a bear.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Now they've got, you know, formats like yours and mine
where their stories are welcomed, and they're given credence, and
they're researched. And I'll tell you straight up, before we
would report on something, we do a lot of research.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
And I think, hold that thought. The American cryptid, Christian McLeod,
the American crypt Queen, Christina crypt Queen. They continue with us,
so it's spaced out radio right after this. H I

(25:12):
think I'm gonna make this into a T shirt.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I would I buy it? Yeah, my closet.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm gonna try that right now.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I just went w t F on top blestion mark.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
So what I can create during the break here, that's
the beauty of AI is it speeds it up a
little bit?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yah? No, there you go. Man, h.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Mm hm, thanks for hold on now. I gotta find
that beauty. I don't think it's in me here.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I think it's a file there it is.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Mh see how it looks. M'd be my new screensaver.
Who knows? All right, I apologize for my lack of

(27:01):
energy tonight. I literally, at my daytime job, shoveled snow
for about four hours. And when you're chunky like I am,
four hours is a lot.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
The death sentence man, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
We've got a nice a nice following of snow overnight.
We had about twenty hours a note of snowfall came
about four or five inches.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's nice.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, we've got a break today, so let's see what
the weather is like here. Let's go here, all right,
let's see here. Yeah, snow tomorrow, afternoon, tomorrow, evening, Thursday, Friday, snow,

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Saturday at break, Sunday, snow. Welcome to winter. Dirty Filth
is probably playing backgammon with one of his cats tonight.
I don't know where dirty is.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
It's been dirty.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh god, here it comes. No, I don't like that.

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I have to redo it.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
All right.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Look at old t Bone there, just gifted a membership.
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I've been taking a lot of criticism today, Joseph Richardson,

(29:19):
How are you right there? Dirdie Filth currently playing backgammon
with the cats. Worst part about it is he's losing.
Oh the snow being brutal. I get what you're saying now, Jose,
Oh man, I got my ass. Shoot at my daytime

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job today by this lady who just she must have
been having the worst of worst days and decided to
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Christian McCloud, the American Cryptid and his research partner Christina

(31:39):
joining us. As we were talking about were wolves right
off the bat. But this is the encounters that I know.
You've got a couple of stories for us tonight, Cryptid. Gee,
I do.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's a rear year recap for the year I went
a see. I went just in case you did. I
went and put the dome on.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
For you, beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
I didn't want you to feel like I forgot.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Oh, thank you, thank you. What do you got for us?
Story wise?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Well? You do? You know we do a year recap
if you want.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
I told you we had done some research on some
vampires in New Orleans. So whatever you want to talk
about first, sure, it's it's it's up to use her show.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well, considering that this is your segment, you know, I'd
like you to.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, it's my segment. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Maybe contribute a little bit, Christina, just slap them if
you don't mind, right, just give a little smack there
for me appreciated.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Well, I you know, the weird will think I still
I wanted to finish addressing that, or or the I
think or dog man. I think what happened is uh,
I think the same thing that happened with Bigfoot happened
to Sino ceph fly.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
And I know I've said this before, but if you.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Look at this stork record, sino Cephala has been around forever.
Alexander the Great actually highed mercenary has ever seen on
cephal That's another historic record. And I think what happened
is at one point in time their numbers were probably
right up there with Bigfoot or Geddy or you get
whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
To call them.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
And I think something happened like smallpox. Now, if you
look at smallpox, smallpox is the one of the only
few viruses that'll transmit to a grade eight.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
So in seventeen seventy six, and I've.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Said this before, so if you've heard of four, forgive me,
but I was in a recap in seventeen seventy six.
Most people were focused on New England and that little
insurrection that was going on called the Revolutionary War. But
they don't realize is that there was a massive smallpox
outbreak that was all over North America, especially Canada, South America,

(33:47):
on the West coast, California, everything, and it was killing
millions of people. And just hypothetically, what if smallpox could
be transmitted to Bigfoot and or dog Man and it
just wiped out their numbers to the point where they
are almost extinct, and it took this much time for
their numbers to grow back, And that's maybe why we're
getting more and more reports. That's always a theory I've had.

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I think it's quite possible if you look at the store.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Record, that makes a lot of sense in regards to that.
I mean, but recently, if we look at everything that
has kind of happened here over the last little bit,
dog man sighting seemed to be absolutely everywhere. It was
just about thirty years ago, thirty six years ago, where

(34:32):
it seemed to be only in the Wisconsin, Michigan area
where these things were being seen quite frequently. Now they
seem to be spread all over Christian.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, yeah, I mean they are. But you know, what
was it in the eighteen thirty isn't that when the
first Michigan dog Band was sine something like that.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
And you know, but if you think about it as
far back in the woods as they were when that happened,
you know, that could have been a uh a prime
example of what we're talking about. These creatures or these
these cryptids will avoid humanity. It ain't costs. And then
by accident they were seen, and then maybe as they
expanded they started getting seen more.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
But yeah, you're right, they're seen all over the place. Uh.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I mean, I've I've heard stories in i'ndone in Nevada,
not too far from the Las Vegas strip. Uh, they're
just brazen enough to come on the outskirts and I
think they're just looking for food. But I mean, that's
how brazen they're getting. So I think it's gonna be
just a matter of time before we start getting more
and more reports and and probably you know that that'd

(35:36):
be a hard thing to explain, is what's a dog man?
Bigfoot be one thing, but how do you explain that,
you know, or someone trying I like the people trying
to call.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Them walking wolves amount but that's a stupid day the
dog man.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I've never heard that. That's that's terrible God, there's just
there's walking is as bad as squatch.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah, it's I can't stand that.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's it's terrible.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
All wolves walk, as they say, they just walk, you know,
they all walk.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
So I mean if you're saying, well, they're five people
walking wolves, I mean they're dog man sinos that fly.
I mean, there's already stops trying to be original. I
can't stand when people do that.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Or it's like USO is becoming a UFO and what
happened with the UFO.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Well you got that that UAP garbage going on.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
I again, to me, stupid, Well, it's called the UFO.
It's been a UFO for a millennium. Don't leave leave alone.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
But that's how they change the stigma. That's why people
always got to come up with with different catchphrases or
acronyms for it is it? You know, in the UFO world,
the reason why they got rid of UFO and went
with u UAP was because they wanted to get rid
of the tin foil hack, conspiracy of Little Green Men,
anal probing, and men from Mars.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
But that's the best part. You know, I belonged to
move on and I didn't get that in.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I never got that memo or take it out to you,
because I've got moof on stuff that says UFO on it.
So I don't think you know, they didn't give me
my I did just reserds I never got, I never
heard anything.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I didn't get a vote on that. So till Buffon
starts using that, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Oh they're already people trying to but the majority of
them is kind of sweep it all back. It's mostly
the people who, uh, this is the way I look
at it. If you look at the UFO world prior
to twenty seventeen, when this whole UAP flap started, Okay,
there were the people who, well, everybody used UFO, and
then when the UAP stuff started, you had the people

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who were longtime researchers who wanted to sound more credible
in their research, so they switched from UFO to UAP
because they thought it gave them a leg up and
they were now much smarter than the rest.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Of us, as they don't understand.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
And and then you got the what the group that
we call the twenty seventeens who had nothing to do
with UFOs until the whole UAP stuff began with the
New York Times article, and so they're all UAP and
the scientific community cannot use UFO because it will drop

(38:26):
their credibility, which is why they have to go UAP. Now,
in my research of it all, what I've learned from
it from talking to insiders and scientists who actually on
the inside, people who worked on the inside. That's why
we have a T shirt. UAP are man made objects
UFOs or not?

Speaker 3 (38:48):
To me, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
That makes sense because you know, UAP could be a
drone somewhat hyper drunk.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
You know, we got that new there's all kinds of
new stuff that we're seeing now.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Have you seen that new drone at the bat drone
of launches and then he goes boom.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
That thing's incredible. So, I mean, who knows what we got.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
But I think, you know, as far as distinguishing alien
craft from uh human, I still think the best Bourbis's UFO.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
It's still the most accurate.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, it's technically it's correct. It's an identified flying object.
We don't know what made it. I mean, you know,
when you see these these pictures and the videos coming
from these fighter crafts and they're flying mock too, chasing
these things and they just they disappear.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
I mean, say, it's crazy. What I mean, what does that?
I mean, it's gotta be that's a different technology. Man.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
That's not from here, He's from somewhere else. He's had
a better driver's license.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Well, what do you think of this story that's popped up? Okay,
in the new movie Age of the Age of Disclosure,
there is a piece of evidence there that President George
Herbert Walker Bush, when he was with the CIA, was
actually read into the Halloman Air Force Base UFO and

(40:12):
alien encounter. He kept it quiet. He found out more
information after he was president that one being came out
of one craft that landed. There were two other craft
that were in the air as well, and they met
with military and CIA officials and it was we don't
know how long it was for. We do know there

(40:34):
is an alleged video from Halloman Air Force Base that
you could YouTube and check on out. So if you
type in Halloman Air Force Base UFO comes right up,
and it is something that is very interesting that you know.
It amazes me that every now and again, and it

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happens frequently at least couple times a year, that all
of a sudden a president's name, Christian gets tied to
the whole UFO story.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
It used to be Eisenhower. It was for a long
time it was Eisenhower.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
He was the only one hand and then Truman mined
on something, but it was Eisenhower, and then uh, you know,
apparently you know, of course, there's the reason why one
of the reasons why JFK got killed is because.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
He was gonna link the UFO stuff.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
And then of course there's the Richard Dixon uh theory
where Nixon was actually gonna meet with them, they were
going to publicize it, and then all of a sudden,
Watergate broke because half of the government.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Didn't want them to discuss it. So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
I think once you reach that certain level in government,
I was just like your former was the prime minister
or defense minister.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, Paul Hill, you're the former minister of.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Defense, gets something and says, oh, hell yeah, these things.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Once you reach that level, it's it's hard for me
to disbelieve that because when when you when you get
to that level of government, you're gonna have every kind
of clearance.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
So on our YouTube side, I'm showing the video of
what is alleged to be an eleven second film of
the light. Okay, now, a lot of critics will say
that the way this light is approaching is it's actually
a jet aircraft with its landing gear light on, that

(42:25):
is approaching. Now, you don't see the other two, the
other two craft in this eleven second video of this
alleged UFO that's landing. But apparently there is a multitude,
some would say a plethora of film regarding the other

(42:46):
two craft and the being getting out that has never
been released. Now I can understand when you get eleven
seconds of video that somebody who does not believe in this,
that it would look like a jet landing, you know,

(43:07):
so I find it. I find it very interesting. What's
your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I mean, I just don't see that as a jet
because there's no wingspan, there's no other lights, there's you know,
you're not seeing any wash, you know, there's no there's
no distortion from the turbines, the heat. Just that to me,
that just that does that looks like, you know, basically
a ball of light under control.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
What do you think there's there's just the dropping. It
doesn't seem to be any other trajectory to it either.
I mean that it doesn't seem to move like.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
An air.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Jet aircraft would I would agree with you on that.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, it's it's like the vertical, it's just going more vertically. Yeah. Yeah,
there's no there's no flight path, it's just going down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Well, a lot of people believe that that video right there,
that you could. All you have to do if you're
listening at home or on radio and you want to
check it on out, go on your phone and type
in Hulloman Air Force Base UFO. It comes right up
and you can have a look for it yourself. And
like I said, a lot of people will say, there

(44:27):
is more to this video. I've heard it's up to
like twenty twenty one minutes long, but that's eleven seconds
that got snuck out and released.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
But if it's real, how to get snuck out? Where
is the rest of it? You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (44:44):
It's not like they could only it's not like back
then they could just you know, take your cell phone
and do a record right there.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Of what was playing, and they'd have to have the
whole reel. No.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I get that, I I totally get that. I'm sure
there's other copies that were made. But whoever released that copy,
you know, cut it down to eleven seconds. I guess
the real.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Quick with their own recorder and are getting.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
The thing they know and they said, now that's the
one where they allegedly met with Bush.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Well, that's the one Bush Senior, when he was head
of the CIA, was read in on and then he
found out more about it when he was president. Now,
scientist Eric Davis, who is a very controversial figure in
this in this UFO world, especially with the Wilson Davis
documents where he talked with Admiral Wilson privately in Las Vegas.

(45:40):
He's the one in the age of disclosure who came
out to say that this conversation happened and that Bush
was read in. But I mean, if you look at it,
that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
He was the head of the CIA, man.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
But if you look at it, since Eisenhower, it was
believed JFK was read in on it. It was believed
that that Lyndon Johnson really wanted nothing to do with
the subject because he just wanted to go to war
in Vietnam. Okay, Richard Nixon was read in. There was

(46:14):
We don't believe Gerald Ford was Jimmy Carter had a
great interest in the UFO subject, that even talks about
his own UFO sighting in Georgia, very public about that. Okay,
Ronald Reagan had a major interest in this subject. We

(46:35):
know the Clintons did. We know that George Bush Senior,
now with this, we know that he was ready on
the subject. We know George Bush Junior wanted nothing to
do with the subject, wouldn't even talk about it. He's
been pressed on it, will not say anything about it,
doesn't like it. We know Barack Obama was into the subject.

(47:00):
We also know that Trump has talked very much. He's
probably the most the president who's talked publicly about UFOs
the most.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Well.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
The problem with that is I don't think Trump had
full access. I think Stone and stonewalled them.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
I still believe that until he finishes cleaning up the
mess we have over here in the local, you know,
federal government, they're not gonna I think they're not going
to give him everything. I just think there's a certain
that last certain you know percentage people that just can't
stand and don't want to know everything. Are those people,
you know, the powers that be. I think if he
finally gets all that information, he'll he'll release it. Because

(47:39):
he said he was going to release all the Roswell
stuff and all the UFO information and then he got blocked, uh,
you know, for release. So I mean there's there's either
something really really big that he wants to release.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Or he doesn't have all the you know, variables yet.
So I don't know about how that's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
If there's one president's gonna really he said, I believe
it would be him.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, I mean Joe Biden, love him or hate him,
and we don't need any comments about it, okay. Uh,
he didn't talk about UFOs. He dodged the subject as
well well, and.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
He would but you know, he was vice president for
eight years under Barack, and if Barack knew about it,
then you know he had to know about it. Thankfully,
he can't remember his middle name. But you know, but
when you have that kind of information, you know, it
doesn't you're not gonna forget that. I mean, how are
you gonna By the way, Yeah, guys, aliens are real.

(48:34):
Here's what we talked to. He was a blah blah blah.
That's something you're not gonna, you know, forget. So it
just surprises me that there's not more discussion about the topic.
Now there's this one lady in Congress who's adamant about it.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
I can't remember her name, but she was.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Going off about it again today because there was more
something else that disclosed, and she was going off on
him today.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I saw a quick clip on the video about that.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
But you know, her stance is, why don't we just
release all this information and let everyone think to themselves.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
And at this point in time, I have to agree
with that. I understood years ago. I understood why they
didn't want to release that information.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
I really did, you know, I undersplod the I understood
both points of that argument.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
You know, do you release the information and.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Says, hey, we're not alone in the galaxy? And what
does that do to religion? And then, you know, as
I got older and deeper in faith, you know a
lot of religions cover aliens. I know, you know, and
as far as I'm concerned, you know.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
My particular religion does with something called the new scene.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Creed because you know, God created anything, every visible and invisible,
seen and unseen. So as far as I'm concerned, that's
galaxy wide and that's universal you know, God created a universe,
so I don't think you really if you get into
it and you and you start explaining it that way,
I don't think people can actually say, oh, well, you know,
God made man in his own name and who are

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these guys that that doesn't apply because you know what
I mean, everything's seen unseen too, So you know, that
was the biggest argument I think that the government had
was they were just worried about massive panic, and I
don't think that would be the issue today. I think
you're gonna have some panic, but I don't think it'd
be as bad as what everyone thinks it is.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah. It's funny though that the game that's being played
right now because recently, I'm not sure if you saw
the video, uh, you know, while everybody was concentrating on
three i AT lists. Just recently, NASA ended up cutting
a UFO video from the International Space Station live feed.
Like literally you could see this triangle come through and

(50:44):
then vanish. It is absolutely astonishing with it. With this video,
I'm trying to pull it up for you right now
so that way we could see it kind of on
the on the the visual side of everything. But you
know how many times times do we have to to
have this happen?

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Man?

Speaker 9 (51:05):
Oh, it's just no one but until like you get NBC, ABC,
Fox News, C NBC everyone covering it at the same time.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
And you know, if they don't cover it, they're gonna
look like smucks. It's it's not gonna you know, it's
gonna get traction.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Uh. I'm sure you know.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Uh, globally, this was probably seen and discussed everywhere else
in the world except here. I'd be willing to write
if Great Britain saw it, that's that's gonna be on
their news.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
You know, I think what makes me laugh is I
think you get most of your your alien UFO and
high strangeness news.

Speaker 10 (51:49):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
If anyone wants to actually, you know, compare whether it's
true or not, I think you get it from Russia.
Russia pretty they pretty much just disclose what they get.
Here's what we got, you know. That's now that's a
that's a sad state of affairs. When you're looking for
Russia to give information.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
It is scary. But I mean, but that's where we
are in disclosure. I just think that on a world
disclosure sets take away the politics of it all, take
away everything. I think there is a mandate among governments
that's probably been discussed decades ago in the UN or
other treaty movements. Okay, that says we're not doing the

(52:29):
UFO thing. We're not going to I think.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
That goes I think that predates Blue Book. I think
that predates Operation Blue or Project Blue Book. I think
I think that's all up there. I think that was
the original Majestic twelve. I think if you look at
the guys everyone they got. They got academics, they got
the mathematicians, they got physicists, but they also got a
lot of people that were you know, religious backgrounds, and

(52:53):
I think they all got together and said, Okay, let's
come up with band aids for this planet.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
So everyone's going to agree to it.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
And I think they all just did because it made
more sense back then.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
When we return from the break here at the top
of the hour, in about two minutes, on the other side,
we're gonna actually play that NASA video. I'm curious your
thoughts because NASA has been caught so many times before
from astronauts up on the International Space Station. Give an example,
a Russian cosmonaut literally saw a boomerang of lights, So

(53:28):
you remember what a boomerang looks like, boomerang of lights.
He took photos of it, NASA never responded to it.
He posts on social media, and it's like your own
astronauts are there on the iss with this guy.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
They don't want you know, it's power and control. Knowledge
is power, and you know NASA.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Let's listen, Dave, we go on about NASA all day,
but let's be honest.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Who founded NASA. Let's look at the roots in NASA.
I mean, you talk about that when you get back,
but that's not what I would say.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
You know, there was a whole lot of transparency in
NASA when it started and who started it and who
funded it, and you know where the science and the
math and everything came from. I don't think a lot
of people even know to this day how that came around.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
So that's a whole different story.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
So when you start talking about NASA and you know
the word truth, it's almost kind of funny. You can't
use that sense for those two words in the same
sense because since day one in their inception, they were
a false flag operation for former Nazis.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
That's all it was. It's still pretty much all it is.
It's just grown.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
It really is troublesome because, like I've said on this
show many a time before, most people don't realize NASA
is a very two faced organization. They have their public
face where their raw raw, let's go to space. Look
what we found. And then they have their defense department.
The cryptied guy, the cryptied girl, Christian and Christina here

(55:04):
from American Cryptids. We've got them for another two hours. Here,
let's based out radio.

Speaker 11 (55:12):
This is based out Radio with Hopes Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
All right, we are clear. I'm just gonna put you
guys in the background. Blue skies. How you doing. I'll
be right back, guys, all right, let's be nice people,
Let's be nice. Look at me up in the corner.
Here's all right, I am back. Let's bring these guys

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back in there we go. You're doing good.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Okay, Oh you're just lovely, just fabulous, the fab.

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every night.

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We do.

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M and to this and cools.

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some great minor league baseball and lots of my monsters
around there. Guys, welcome back, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Did we ever talk about the baseball team because we
love the tourists?

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Oh yeah, we talked about the league baseball all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Oh man, I love that they have. We have a
great team down the tourists. We go, yeah, we go
as many games as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Just there. It's a good good, uh good organization there. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
They know what they're doing. They're putting in a new
stadium too, so it's gonna be nice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
So right before the break, we were talking about NASA
cutting live feeds on UFOs and this was a recent one,
and our radio audience will describe it to you as
it's happening. But if you're watching on YouTube or any
other social media, you can see the video. It's about
a minute long, and.

Speaker 12 (01:03:44):
We're gonna have the UV light running for decon and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
We don't want and you could hear them talking. So
during this video it's staring deep in the space and
then all of a sudden, a black triangle with lights appears.

Speaker 12 (01:04:03):
When we do come back to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
You, it disappears to shaky, and then it will reappear
in the frame, thinks, and this is where they end
up cutting the feed now where that thing disappeared. We

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don't know what the black triangle is. We don't know.
It looks more like a pyramid shape with lights on top,
but in the shape of a triangle on the bottom.
So I'm curious your thoughts on this, Christian. Let me
lose this that way, I can, that way, I can.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Oh, I don't know if it's one of ours, but
that's some kind of vehicle that's under control too, And
you're right where to go. It just clobed for a second.
I think everybody was uncloked. Put it back on. I mean,
that's that's incredible footage.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I've never seen that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Yeah, that happened recently. It has not been debunked. The
triangle comes into focus and then it like it's like
it flies right into like behind a curtain, and then
comes out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
A different second and then it comes back out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Yeah, and then it comes into it comes out into
a different trajectory.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
So you're right, it looks more pyramid shape, like a
pyramid kind of turned on its side that way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
So we're gonna watch it one more time. The voices
that you're hearing are actually calms between the International Space
Station and ground control before they cut the.

Speaker 12 (01:05:44):
Feed at the work volume. We're gonna have the UV
lights running for decon and we don't want you entering
that work volume while it's doing work. Absolutely, I will
not do anything inside of the work volume.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah, thanks for.

Speaker 12 (01:06:02):
Excellent good thank You're very welcome, And just to kind
of smooth things over, when we do come back to you,
you'll be on Space to Ground three for your ups
to day a shanky.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
So what we're not seeing is where does the craft go.
It seems to be heading in one direction, it disappears,
and then it all of a sudden will reappear near
the middle of the frame, like it's coming out of
some sort of cloaking. And then there is like the
triangle at the bottom, and then it looks like there

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is lights at the top, like it is some sort
of pyramid. And this is a video once again that
NASA allegedly cut from the feed on the International Space Station. Now,
whether it's true or not, we really don't know. We
really don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
I'm telling you man that it looks like it looks
like either one or two things happened that that particular
ship cloak or went behind something else that was already cloaked,
and then it came back out. So maybe there was
a bigger ship, maybe that's part of an armana or
maybe as part of a whole fleet or whatever, and
they're all cloaked, and then that thing just was uncloaked

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and came around, and then you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
They realized they couldn't be seen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
I mean, I don't know, but you can't tell that
that's got to be that's under some kind of control.
I mean, it changed the direction. It looks it looks
like some of that Star Wars. I mean honestly looks
like a triangle slave ship that you know. And and
the lights coming back from the back could be the thrusters.
I don't know, but that's what looks like to me.
I mean, it looks like it's under some kind of intelligence.

(01:07:43):
Fends like a triangle millium falcon kind of looking. Tell
you that's what it looked like to make it instead
of the whole crap, you know, the whole ship that's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Crazy and you're right, where's that? Why is that geting covered.
I haven't seen that on TV at all. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Here, here's the problem with that video. Okay, now playing
Devil's Advocate here for a minute. The problem with that
video that I see is the fact that with AI
and CGI being as advanced as it is today, I
can see where people are going to say this looks

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completely fake, okay, that it is just another makeup of
something that somebody wanted to get a little bit of
attention with. And with the way AI is formulating videos
and videography today, it would be very easy to manipulate
it and say it is from the International Space Station.

(01:08:43):
If it's If it's real, it's pretty incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
More perfect that because to me it's it's it's distorted
just enough to look like it's real.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
And there's part of.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
It where you can see like the bottom part, but
not but the top part of it, which is why
it looks like it goes behind something else that's cloaked.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
But if it was AI, I would think it would
be more perfect than that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
It wouldn't, you know, it wouldn't see part of it
here and not you know, at the other.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Like part was distorted.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Yes, we know NASA has plenty of examples of things
they have been hiding over the years. We know this now.
Some of my favorites are the X fifteen test pilots
who had who had UFO encounters, including and many people

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don't know this, but including the first man to walk
on the Moon, Neil Armstrong. So during the time, the
most famous case was from Major Robert White. It happened
July seventeenth, nineteen sixty two. So for people who don't

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know what the X fifteen was, it was basically a
rocket with a cockpit on it. Okay, it had to
be launched from a B fifty two bomber, and the
B fifty two would go up to about forty thousand feet,
they would launch the rocket, and they would take the
rocket up to about three hundred thousand plus feet above

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the Earth. So on this date in nineteen sixty two,
Major Robert White radioed in that there was a description
that has become very legendary, and this is something NASA
today doesn't even talk about. Okay, because what he looked

(01:10:49):
when he looked out the cockpit window, he saw a bright,
whitish object pacing his X fifteen, which was flying at
about mock six or seven at that point at six
to seven times the speed of sound. It was described
as unidentified, shaped like an orb or disc, visible long

(01:11:10):
enough for him to comment on it during the mission.
His favorite famous line was, there are things out here.
There absolutely is now. Debriefing notes later indicated White could
not identify the object as a star, planet, satellite, or
any known man made object or craft. Engineers tried to

(01:11:33):
attribute this to ice crystals on the glass or reflective debris,
but no matching explanation was ever confirmed. This remains one
of the most highly credible UFO military astronaut encounters because
White was a decorated pilot flying above fifty miles altitude

(01:11:55):
under heavy instrumentation. Now in April of nineteen sixty two,
Major Joe Walker had an encounter and he filmed it,
so NASA actually has the film of this that they've
never released. He apparently saw five to six metallic objects

(01:12:18):
above him. They were flying what appeared to be loose formation,
and as a pilot, especially a military pilot, you would
think that he probably knows what a formation of aircraft
look like. And we also know that three hundred thousand
feet plus when you're looking into darkness above you. There

(01:12:40):
is nothing else that's human that is going to be
up there flying. He stated publicly that these weren't reflections
and were true unidentified. He also say it said pardon me,
that he captured footage using an onboard cine camera. NASA
has never released the full frame, though images were rumored

(01:13:02):
to have circulated and classified air Force channels. Walker later
said I don't know what they were. They were not aircraft. Yeah.
And then William J. Pete Wright, the fastest man alive,
saw a white sphere while flying at Mock six point
seven in nineteen sixty seven. So this was in the

(01:13:26):
X fifteen a DASH two test, and he apparently reported
passing a white spherical object moving at extremely high speed,
holding altitude above the X fifteen trajectory. Night attempted to
visually track the object, but lost it quickly as his
focus shifted back to controlling the aircraft at near orbital velocity.

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Internal Air Force commentary suggested it might have been space debris,
classified military hardware, or a satellite glar, but none matched
the angle, behavior or speed. Night described your thoughts so far.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
I mean it's typical, it's awsome. You know, they're not
gonna They're not gonna tell us what's going on. I mean,
they keep they keep more secrets in the NSA. You know,
I think NASA has more secrets in another federal agency,
and I you know, they just they just don't tell
us anything. I don't I don't think we still exactly

(01:14:30):
don't happen to Space Shuttle back in eighty six.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
D. I don't think we still have the full story
on that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Kunbo seeds to know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Did you talk to her about that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I'm not allowed to say that conversation, but he.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Well, he would know. But my point is the world
doesn't know. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Right Well, here I saved the best story for last
on this Before he walked on the moon. Neil Armstrong
flew seven missions in the X fifteen, the rocketplane that
pushed the edge of space. Most of his flights were
routine test operations, at least on paper, but one story
repeated in aerospace circles and whispered in later UFO research

(01:15:16):
claims Armstrong had a strange encounter during a flight in
the sixties. According to the account, Armstrong climbed above two
hundred thousand feet when he noticed what he initially thought
was a brilliant reflective object pacing the aircraft off his
left side. At first he assumed it was a piece
of ice or debris from the X fifteen, but the

(01:15:39):
object maintained a constant distance holding formation even as the
rocketplane transitioned through phases of engine burnout, coast and re
entry altitude control. Armstrong later described privately as this craft
was behaving intelligently and it wasn't drifting. The story. He

(01:16:00):
goes on that after the landing, Armstrong was supposedly mentioned
the object during debriefing in a polite, cautious way, not
as a UFO, but as an anomalous reflector. Engineers reviewed
onboard film from that flight but could not match the
object's movements to anything known. No satellites on that orbital path,

(01:16:22):
no other aircraft, no debris consistent with the sighting. The
footage was allegedly archived without public release, becoming one of
the most Unexplained Anomalies folder or pardon me in the
Unexplained Anomalies folder, NASA and the Air Force quietly maintained
during the X fifteen era.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
I mean it is what it is. He saw something,
you know, what did he see right. Yeah, that's not
the first time he saw something too. When they were
landing on the Moon, there was recordings you have pulled
that said that there's there's people over there's something over there,
there's people over there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
They're they're watching us. You know that. You ever heard
that conversation?

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Yeah, it was something like they they're here, they're on
the hill and they're watching on the hill.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
They're on the hill watching us. What do we do?

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
And then you know there's the whole.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
They didn't go the dark side of the Moon because
they knew it was over there, well, or they did.
They came back and that's when they decided to leave
because they were supposed to be there for a couple
more days.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
According to somebody I talked to, when Armstrong and Aldrin
walked on the Moon, they looked over and that's where
the comment was made on the emergency channel, because they
actually saw some sort of square object that was there

(01:17:51):
one at one point, and then when they when they
were landing, and then when they turned to look back,
it was gone.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
See.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
I was told by by someone in that that was
pretty you know, I'll consider knowledgeable in this area. That
they actually spend on that dead time there's like the
dead twenty three minutes whatever it is. They actually got
in the rover and went down and around uh and
ran into a base and at that point they were

(01:18:24):
on the emergency signal and it says there's a base,
there's a base of what he wants to do. And
that's when they said get back and we're coming about.
Let's go get back, and that's why they came back.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Yeah, I heard that story too, and that one, that
one it was if it was in a crater, right,
And I believe that was the mission a couple after
Armstrong's mission where I thought that was. I thought that
was the first one because they didn't they didn't bring
the rover up on the first one. I think it

(01:18:55):
was who.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Whoever the rover was.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
That was when, because that's that's when that happens, because
they made they got back in the rover and came
back and they took off.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
And apparently if you if you look at the photographs
of the tracks, you will see them driving around just
like they would and then you see them pull up
the crater. They stop, and then you see them you
see the tracks reverse and get the hell out of
dodge quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Oh shit, what else were they gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Good boy, you are.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
It's still amazing the cover ups, the cover of first
they cover.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
It up and don't release any of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Well, how are you gonna And again, who should say
if they're friendly or you know, if they're on the moon,
they know we're here, right, they've got that kind of
technology and they know exactly why if they're not communicating
with us. I've always said this, David, I don't know
if you're gonna agree with this or not. If there's
an alien civilization out there, they know that they're we're real,
and they know we're a planet, and they haven't communicated

(01:20:04):
with us, it's because they don't want to. What do
we bring to the table. We don't have their technology.
We can't even get our own stuff together on this planet.
We're still argue about the same stuff for three thousand
years in certain areas of this planet. So what makes uh,
you know, any kind of advanced life form think that
we're going to do anything different if we get the
keys that it came m and if they.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
Know anything about humanity in general, they know that we fight,
we war, we pollute, you know, we we don't do
the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
We just make more of us. So we're not doing
anyone We're not We can't take care of this planet.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
So why would they want us out there exploring other
planets or blight? We're like to you know, human beings
are cockroaches in the universe. We can't be trusted. You're
never going to do the right time. I mean, it's
it's just a greed aspect, you know. And now there's
I'm not saying all humans like that, but if you
look at our history, traditionally the ones that are end
up winning and taking over. So, I mean, I don't know, man,

(01:21:02):
I I would find it hard to believe that there's
nothing on the Moon.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
I really would.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
It would be very uh naive to think that there's
nothing there, or there's nothing you know, or there's no
other the well, there's nothing else in this part of
the Solar System.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Be ridiculous. I don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Three minutes to go here. What do you think is
NASA's biggest cover up with UFOs?

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Mm hmm, oh, well Roswell happened before nance's inception. But no,
but I think I think one of the biggest things
I want to say, the alleged incident, uh where Nixon

(01:21:54):
was going.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
To come clean.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
And then all that got the kiw wash on it,
because we do have we do have film footage of
it looks like an Amlien craft getting ready to land
somewhere in California on that day, and then it just
goes completely you don't see it anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
I think that might be one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
But I think they've probably kept most of their technology
is secret. I think that was probably the biggest thing
to keep the secret. It's their technology, and they do
that for reason. You know what it is. I don't know,
But I've got a friend of mine that, you know,
he used to work in some government you know, branches,

(01:22:39):
and he telling me point blank that that'll adage about
everything you see and everything that's released today that's modern
the federal government and the US governments had for at
least thirty five years. So technology wise, who really knows
where we are. So I sort of think NASA has
hitten the best. I think they've done the best job
of just keeping all the technology on the law because.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
You never know, you know, you don't know what they have.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
It is a very difficult situation to try and figure
out that is for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
But and I've said this before too, there's a reason
why the US is so arrogant.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
It's because we can back it. And when you get
to the president and I.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
Say it is telling people that you're either gonna do
this or we're gonna come and clean house, you can
be sure that's what's gonna happen. But that's because we
can do it. And we can do it because we
have the technology to do it. And I think the
reason why we don't feel reprisal is because our technology
is such that they're not going to get anything, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
In over US.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
And I think that goes through pretty much the entire
North American continent, you know, if Canada, South America, US,
and I think that's all gonna be. I think that's
all like the shield on it, just because you know
the way it's it's set up. But I think that
that all that technology comes from either NASA or you know,
Joint military or all of it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
But I think they the biggest cover up is definitely
a tech.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I would say the technology is absolutely incredible of what
they are hiding. I mean, if we saw a quarter
of what they have created, we as regular human beings
would be in awe of absolutely everything. We really would.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
Russians are still trying to figure out how our satellites
worked in the early eighties.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
We're still trying to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
The Russians and Chinese are just develop it, have literally
just developed stealth technology.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Oh yeah, I mean, and then you know, so we
don't it would, Dave, I don't. I can't even imagine.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
I mean, if we got picked up by some black
SUVs tomorrow is a right, We're going to take you
the you know, the three is. We're gonna take you
guys and show you all our high tech stuff, and
you can talk about as much as want, but no
one's gonna believe you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Who knows what we'd see.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Christian mcleas, the Decryptid Guy, and Christina his partner, are back
for another ninety minutes on spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 11 (01:25:15):
You're listening to spaced Out Radio with your hopes, Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
All right, we're clear. Uh huh, we're clear.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Oh good. So when you talk to Combo, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
I got I haven't had a chance to talk to him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
He's been a busy guy. He just did that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
Uh, I'm actually between you, me and a fans. I
talked to her about this. I'm gonna piste off at
him right now. Remember when I introduced him to the
Flash of Beauty people.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Yes, you were there when I did that, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Right, Well they ended up doing a TV show with him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
And now I didn't even get to thank you or mentioned.

Speaker 10 (01:26:17):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
You say, well, yeah, thing, he was excusing your idea
and someone used.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Some of my website.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Who used your website?

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
I think it was Goomba.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
We were watching something right after that and there's boom,
there's acts right there and it's mine because I built it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Damn Kumbo.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
I don't know if it was in Man, it could
have been Flash of Beauty. But those people were supposed
to interview me. They never did, so they got Robin.
I don't know did they get you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
They never interviewed me.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
They were supposed to. They were supposed to interview you
and me, and then they wanted Kumbo after I talked
to him.

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
So they talked to us at that restaurant for a
little while, and then they were supposed to talk to
you later and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
They never did.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
No, they never reached out to me.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Well, we have put together I think they just wanted
our intel. Amaze, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Even a kiss on the cheek, not just.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Kicking the nuts is what I got, right, you know,
it's just like, come on, man, well that's for the
world here. But hey, how about thanks for setting.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
This up right? And so, by the way, that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Quiet.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
There's a few people who've gotten some pretty good press
because of me as of lately, and uh, this kind
surprises me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
There we go, there it is. My eyes are blue.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Hold on, make the eyes blue. Oh, let's see if
we got enough time here, see if it will load up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
That's gonna be a T shirt.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
I want one. Uh huh as you number one. Celebrate
that baby.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
It's gonna be a new T shirt. T Bone is
gonna be buying it no time. T Bone buys every
T shirt that I have. I mean, that's because we
don't have ugly swag. And he's such a great supporter.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Hold on, here comes coming. Mm hmm. It's a good image.
Oh there's the blue eyes. There's the blue eyes. Now
you got that or you got this? What do you prefer?

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
I like them both?

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Oh, just mister sour right there. This is the face
of when's the person next to you at the restaurant
that you don't even know? Rip's ass? That's the face you. Yeah,
watch your swearing next half hour, man, watch your swearing

(01:29:38):
next half hour. I gotta edit now, bad boy, bad boy?
All right, let's download this. Thank you to t Bone

(01:29:58):
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Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
You tell Al Garrade, keep working out?

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
All right? Hold on one second. Here, here we go.

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Here we go Christian McLeod and Christina. They're from American
Crypti to Paranormal Society otherwise known as ACAPS. They're hanging
on out with us talking about weird, strange phenomena that's
going on around the world and the year that was
in the high strangeness. I want to get into a

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little bit of paranormal stuff before we get to some
audience questions here the whole situation with the conjuring You
been following that, yes and.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
No, part of it's hard to get the real story
on that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Well, tell people, Tell people what's happening here first so
they can get caught.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
This is what I've heard. I've heard that the house
is for sale and they're going to destroy it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
And they're going to rebuild on the property. That's why
i've heard. I don't know if there's anything different than that,
but there's there's I guess an issue of some money
that was holding things up, but they're putting in Was
it a condo, the.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
House that has their museum and their collections and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
This is the one where they the first one to start, remember,
So that's why I'm getting it would not surprise me
should they do it. I mean, it's it's there, you know,
where buys it owns it, you know, like I'll do
whatever they want with it, but I personally think you
should probably.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Just leave the area alone.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
Now. Comedian Matt Rife and his business partners were the
ones kind of looking into it, and then Jason Hawes
from caps he is put together a GoFundMe to try
and raise what they figure it will be about a
million dollar price tag in regards to trying to buy
the home, you know, to kind of keep it the
way it is, and it just seems like there's a

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lot of strife around this now. For people who don't
know the Conjuring House, this was if you watch the
movies about Ed and Lorraine Warren, the Conjuring is what
it's called. The series. The first episode was about the
Conjuring House with the Parrin family where they had ghosts
in there that really stood out. They've made three films

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about it, one on the Annabel All and the latest
one that's coming out is about the Smirl Family Haunting,
which apparently the Smirl family is not too happy with
a lot of the Hollywood changes on it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
We just saw that one and that they said that
was the one that ended their career. Like they point
blank on the beginning of the movie said, this is
the episode that ended ed Lorraine's career. I don't know
why the Smirll family wouldn't be happy with it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Well there was.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Any kind of if anything, it made it made them
out to be a very tight thing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
I yeah, as as someone watching, they were very to me,
they were very good Catholic family.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
They were very much you know, they a were very
church orientate and they all did this.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
The only weird thing about that is how the mirror
You're aware the how it all sorry, right with the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Mirror I have now I know Karen smirl Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Well how true is that then? So we'll actually be
asking you or was that well did that start off
with a mirror?

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
I don't. I haven't seen the film yet. Okay, Okay,
I'm bad at seeing films. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
You're a busy guy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
I'm very bad at seeing the films.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
Okay, we still like you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Yeah, I'm just going back to uh.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
I would love to talk to her.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
That would be because they that was a that was
full on demonic.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
Man. There was no ghosts about that was just demonic.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
If that's the way it was portrayed, If that's what's
actually happened.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
There's been some speculation about d and Lorraine and.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
People now coming out saying that they were shysters and
things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
I just find that hard to believe.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
They seem to have helped a lot of people over
the years, and they never charged anyone anything. They just
wanted book rights and then I don't think and then
they'd give people money after the book rights. I mean,
from what I've seen this this no one's got any
reason to complain. I don't know if the smurgls, I
don't know what the difference would mean. What happened in
the reality of that movie was But I actually thought
the movie was really good.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
Yeah, I thought it was good.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
But I'm a fan. I like the people that play
ed Lorraine. I think they they're a great cup.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
I think that I do too. I think the theory
is on it is when Hollywood gets its grasps on
certain subjects, they they forget that they're changing the stories
of what happened in people's lives. And I think that's
what happened here, is that they were none too pleased

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with the direction that this took.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Well, I will see this.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
The house they lived in the film looked like a hobble,
like the there was water stead.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
I mean it didn't. It didn't look very kept well
kept well and it had like.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
I got the they were kind of pulling with Charlie
Buckets where everyone was living.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
With the you know, grandma and grandpa they were living there.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
And then you know, they buy this mirror a second
or swap meet and that was a birthday present. It
was broken or for confirmation, but it was broken, and
the person that broke it was Lorraine twenty years or
thirty years prior years really and it was because there
was an entity being trapped in it. So that that

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was the bes basis of the movie. And then they
came back and they tried to getting rid of it.
And yeah, Samuel, Samuel, but I thought the family was
portrayed as for it. Actually the father was the only
one I had to beat for.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Well. And that's the issue that that's the big issue
that they have right now, okay, okay, is that their
father was the father hated ed Lorraine couldn't stand him.
Oh well, okay, didn't want anything, didn't want anything to
do with them, And that is where a lot of

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the of the issues come from.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
Well, the way the movie picked it is ed Lorraine
wanted nothing to do with this, and the daughter is
the one that got him into it. And they saw
the daughter on TV and then they booked the boyfriend, well,
the fiance and Lorraine getting two cars and they go
right to these people's houses and they're there just to

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get the daughter. And the second Lorraine walks in the house,
she starts getting hit with everything, and the father walks
up to him and says, are you here to help us?

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
And she goes, no, we're here to get our daughter.
We don't wantny problems. We're just letting you know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
And she's telling her the whole time, and then all
of a sudden, you know, she gets the wammy put
on her. She sees what's going on, and before you
know what, they're helping. But at no point in time,
and I see that the old band didn't get along.
They were it didn't show, it didn't show.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
It didn't show that at all the fact, you'd think
he was very grateful. So halt.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
So the directors and the writers changed a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Well they do that because what happens. That's why.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Yes, it's gotta make it. You know, it's still a movie. Yeah,
it's based on true stories, but you got to sell.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
Something and that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Like Bob and Lorraine, how are they getting in the
house or are you a Lorraine? How are they getting
in the house? I mean, if there was such a
beef there.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
And realistically his parents are the ones that started the problem, well,
then want to get the mirror right it was his parents?

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
I think it was his parents.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Well, like I said, I'm trying to get Karen Smirl
on the show. She's agreed to do it, okay, but
we just haven't been able to get a time in
order to make it happen. I'll have to reach out
to her again here. But I am very curious. I
know they're not happy with it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
Yeah, I would like to know what the difference, what
they changed in the movie, what the reality was.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
That would be interesting to know. Yeah, you have me
as a guest on that one. Man, I want to
hear that. I'll just shut up and listen.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Well, I mean the thing is like if you look
at Hollywood. And a perfect example of that is the
Travis Walton story. A lot of the stuff that happened
in that movie is not true. In fact, there were
seven people in the truck during the incident, not six. Okay.
One of the characters, which I believe was Travis's brother.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
Now the brother was in the brother Oh no, you're right,
because that was the brother in law.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Yes, was left out. What actually happened on the craft
was left out and was changed to make it a
little bit more eerie and scary and ominous. What happened
on the craft, well, they say that, you know, that's
where he kind of rips open that gelatine, starts floating up,

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and then the creatures grab him by the legs and
haul him down the path. Apparently none of that happened.
I mean, when you when your family signs up for
a Hollywood movie, they are buying the story. But in
the contract it states that they can do and make
changes to absolutely anything that they want. Okay, that's why

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they say it's that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
I get that on the entertainment aspect, But what you're
saying it's based on true events, you know, It's like, okay, well,
now what events are true.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
In this Well, it's like when Travis was hit by
the light. Okay, there are contradicting reports of if he
truly went flying back forty fifty sixty feet that would.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Have killed him.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
See, I don't know, man. I you know, I've talked
to people over the years. You're like the you know him,
don't you?

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
No, Travis, I've met Travis, but I've become really close
with with one of the guys who is there. His
name is Stephen Pierce.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Okay, I know I know two people that they talked
to him once a week. Uh, they're they're good friends
with him. Uh, and they've always said the same thing
that he was not he didn't like the movie. He
didn't like the way he came off. And that's kind
of like he's he seemed like people when you see

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him say, people think he's real aloof but he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
He just he's kind of just tired of the bs
that followed him around.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
And I was told, Uh, this is actually allegedly a
quote somewhere maybe you can find it on YouTube that he.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
Said, if he had it all to do over again,
he just would have kept his mouth shut. Yeah, he
never would have He never would have done anything. He
would have just left left it alone.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
That incident killed a lot of friendships.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
Oh yeah, well it ruined his life and it ruined
his Uh yeah, I mean ruined a lot of people.
That sheriff didn't. He didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
He was a laughing stock, wasn't he? After all? This
one down?

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
He the sheriff was okay. But they portrayed a lot
of the town's characters a little bit differently than what
they were. And were they being shunned at the time,
were they being you know, kind of put through the ringer? Yes, yeah,
people believe that they actually murdered Travis. They really did.

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But on the flip side, you know, the town hall
meetings and everything, the way how they allegedly drew sticks
to see who would go on the polygraph machine. That
never happened, you know. So it's details, right, I mean,
we could get nitpicky here with it, but it's details

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that changed the way it actually happened.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
I also heard that when they were filming the movie,
the guy that portrayed him got an argument with director
because the director said, well I want you to do.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
This, and he goes, well, that's not what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
This is the way he is, the way he told
me he handled this way he did, and they were
having conflicts because that kept happening.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
I don't know if that's true or not.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
I mean I heard that years ago, but I could
see that being an issue because.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
He was on set as an onset advisor. That was
part of the deal, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
Yes, he was. Both Mike Rogers were there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Even even Jason was a Jason Patrick. Now who's the
who was the guy that played the brother in law?

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
It was the terminator. He's you know, Robert Robert Patrick.
I Robert Patrick. I think that's one of his best movies.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
I would agree.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
I think that's one of his best morovies. And wasn't
that one of the last movies that share who played
the sheriff?

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
What was his name?

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
James Gardner?

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
James Gardner, James Gardner. That wasn't that one of his
last movies?

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
I think it is.

Speaker 10 (01:44:55):
He.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
I thought the whole cast I thought killed the movie itself.
I think was great. The acting was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:45:01):
But I don't know how I didn't know there was
that much differentiation between what really happened in the movie,
because I remember they were building the true events.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
This is what really happened to him. Blah blah blah.
I remember him on Coast to coast.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
He was saying a few things that you know, there
was a few issues, but I've never heard it was
that bad of a you know that that different.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
That's kind of cool, but it would make.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
Sense, though, it would totally make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Well, all what that move's been out what twenty five
to thirty years now?

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
Firing this guy came out ninety four, which means I'm old,
you're very old.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Yes, carried one old ninety four? Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
So what do you think of this? We got about
eight mins. We're gonna move on here. Apparently paranormal tourism
is going to be taking a big jump coming up
in twenty Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
So, and where's this coming from?

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Well, this isn't an article called the Orthrillist dot com, Okay,
where apparently there is a bunch of new paranormal tourism
places that are popping up in order to in order
to let's just say, be a part of the paranormal community. Yeah.

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A Fresh Travel Lifestyle article details a curated paranormal road
trip across hotspots in Arizona, New Mexico, and actually it's
more of an article about a family. I apologize I
read it wrong, and sometimes that happens. But apparently these
people have gone on a major paranormal road trip and

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is encouraging others to start taking a lot of the
paranormal hotspots instead of going to Disneyland or not Sperry
Farm or Six Flags or any place like that, or
go to adult vacation places, whether it's Vegas or Mexico,
hop in the car and go on a big paranormal
road trip, because apparently, if you map it out correctly,
you can hit a bunch of hotspots within a couple

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of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
I mean, you day, let's be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
You and I can put a map together right now,
and every place I've ever investigated I can call a hotspot,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
I just I don't know. I don't see the family
vacation on that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
I think maybe you get a subset of people, maybe
maybe five percent, But as far as I can tell
you right now, it's someone that does paranormal tourism, you know,
in the haunted Dashfield tours.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
You know this is our downtime, so hopefully you know
it would.

Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
I'd love to see it pick up, but this is
just Deceummers tend to be you know, slow, and.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
You know, you never know what it's going to take
back off. Sometimes it's early in the year, sometimes later.
But I'd love to see paranormal stories and go up.
That'd be great for us.

Speaker 7 (01:48:08):
I think the idea of doing it is increasing in
popularity though, because I'm seeing things on Facebook pop up
a lot of just like a little map of this
area of the country or that area of the country,
saying here are a bunch of you know, a little
haunted tour.

Speaker 5 (01:48:25):
You can take of these places. And here's places in
North Carolina. Here's a bunch of places in Georgia. You
can make a day trip of it and see these
haunted places.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
See. I don't think that's some way to do I
think you should know. If you're going to do it,
do it right.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
Get a tour guide, you know, go on the holand
tours of cities, you know, look at trip Advisor, see
who's reputable, and go on those because those people, you know,
they they've done all the research, they've done all the footwork,
and they're telling you, you know, what they found out
and you know that that's you know, some might be
a little exaggerated, but it's it's historic and then that's

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usually what happened. But I'm a firm believer that the
haunted tours are the way to go.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
Oh, it's much better to hear it because you guy,
you know, you can't you don't know what's going on.
And you know, like I said, the research has been done.

Speaker 4 (01:49:09):
These people are professionals, and there really are professionals. They're historians.
I mean, that's what they do. I mean, this is
it's just a different kid, you know, it's it's it's
a paranormal historian as well. I look at it. But
that's that's the best way to do that. I think
that'd be great. I mean, don't you do paranormal stuff
with the museum.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
Don't you absolutely doing that next year?

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Absolutely so, I mean that'd be good for you too.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
I just don't see it being like everyone jumping into
a bus and hey, let's take two weeks and go
to three different states and check it, because you never
know what's really paranormally active. I mean it's everything. There's
a paranormal everywhere, so you just never know.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Well, speaking of which, there, The University of British Columbia
actually did a twenty twenty five paranormal survey. The survey,
led by sociologist Tony Silva and Emily Hunter, is the
first national representative Canadian study of paranormal belief and experience
in about twenty years. Their headline result, forty four percent

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of Canadians say they believe in at least one paranormal
phenomena ghosts, aliens, cryptids, etc. When the phenomena is broken down,
one in three Canadians agree that places can be haunted,
one in five believe that aliens have visited Earth. Belief
in cryptids like bigfoot sea monsters is lower. Example for

(01:50:33):
Canadian equivalent of Sasquatch type cryptids, round ten percent believe,
while another twenty percent are undecided or unsure. Regarding personal
paranormal experiences, roughly one in four Canadians say they've had
a ghost or spirit encounter. On skepticism Neutrality, only about

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a quarter of respondents claimed to fully reject all paranormal phenomena.
The rests either believe or sat on the fence about
at least one phenomena. Demographic and the alt attitude trends
women were more likely to express belief in ghosts and psychics.
Young adults nineteen to twenty nine were in this survey

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slightly less likely to believe than those in older age groups.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
I thought, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
I thought the Bigfoot belief would be hired in Pratish Columbia.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
I thought it would be higher than the younger demographic.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
That really surprises me. That's the only thing that surprised me.
The only thing that surprised me. The other thing that
surprised I had the Bigfoot thing surprising me. I think'd
you were a lot more belief up there, because I
been wanting back. Is it six out of ten people
believe in Bigfoot and it's in the country something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
Yeah, there's some kind of weird.

Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
Stat like that. Or it's four six percent, forty to
sixty percent of people believe in Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
In the US.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
I think, right, here's the thing that I would say
on that study, okay, is that there the study was
probably taken by a lot of people who live in
the metropoliss Okay, the people who aren't getting out into

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the forest, who probably don't even live near a forest. Okay,
that's the way I would look at it, knowing it's
a Vancouver study at the University of British Columbia, which
is the West end of Vancouver. I would look at
that study that way because I don't see them actually
calling people in regions like mine who have had a

(01:52:49):
lot of encounters. You go around my town, man, everybody
believes like that there is something because we're right on
the gold Rush trail. We are filled with UFOs in
the skies that people see, and many people, I would
say the lead lesser amount have had cryptid encounters one

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way or another. They just don't want to admit it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
I mean, yeah, because yeah, you're right. Because I think
about population density and then we're doing the census, they're
you're right, they're broader.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
Is getting people a sense of But I bet you
could skew that's pretty easy if.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
You talk to people. You know, if they got half
of them from rural.

Speaker 4 (01:53:33):
And have of them from urbon, really it's about to say, okay,
so it's about thirteen percent here that believe in bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
I don't know what I was looking at.

Speaker 5 (01:53:44):
It's said that a study in twenty twenty found that
I was about eleven percent of the US population believes
in Bigfoot, and recent studies have shown a this light
increase to about thirteen percent.

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
Still ten percent, you know, that's still pretty incredible, as.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
It really is, still incredible. The good news about tonight
is we have you guys for a third hour. You
guys will also be filling in for Robin Haynes tonight
who had a family emergency, so she cannot make it
on the show tonight. But we're going to continue the
fun with the Cryptid Gee and the Cryptied Girlette. Yes, yes,

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we have Christina and we have Christian McLoud hanging on
out with us right now on spaced Out Radio. When
we return from the break, swamp Weller, we'll kick things off.
We'll get into some more paranormal hotspot topics when we
return on spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 11 (01:54:50):
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Minute forty five to go here.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
Now are we there?

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
We are?

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We're not We're not being recorded right now, are we?

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Yeah? We are? Okay, We're always recorded.

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Okay, So what I was just saying to her off
when we were recording.

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Speaker 10 (02:02:43):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp. I'm swamp dweller.
In tonight, I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unkno sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmares.
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp. This event occurred
on a summer evening. My mother was driving with me

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and Shotgun and my twin sister and my little brother
in the back. We were going to our family's cabin
in western Maryland, four hours away from our home in Pennsylvania.
At the time, Cass and I were twelve. My brother
was much younger and asleep in his booster seat. Camping
in Western Maryland was our favorite place, so we were
all very excited, including my mother.

Speaker 1 (02:03:26):
Now.

Speaker 16 (02:03:26):
The car ride, on the other hand.

Speaker 10 (02:03:28):
Was always miserable it was hot with no ac in
the car, and we didn't have phones back then, so
the few music stations we picked up on the radio
that wasn't religious, gospel and idle conversation were the only
thing that we had for about four of those hours.

Speaker 16 (02:03:43):
So more often than not, Cass and I.

Speaker 10 (02:03:45):
Would stare out the window, making up stories about the
people we saw and where they were going, And when
we drove by truckers, we would try to get them
to blow their horns, which was always very.

Speaker 16 (02:03:55):
Satisfying when they'd oblige. But that's where the trouble really began.

Speaker 10 (02:04:00):
Cass and I were early blimmers, so by twelve we
were already looking much older than we were and getting
a lot of attention from older men wherever we went,
much to my mother's annoyance. At the time, we were
around two hours away from our cabin when I made
eye contact with a trucker and put my hand in
the tug motion of the horn on those semi trucks.

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He grinned at me and immediately obliged, which made me
smile back, but he didn't stop staring and driving next
to us. He had seen Cass behind me, My mother
and me and unfortunately, he decided he liked what he saw.
I didn't know what some of the gestures he was
doing meant until I was much older, and let's just
say he.

Speaker 16 (02:04:39):
Was being very vulgar.

Speaker 10 (02:04:42):
When my mom noticed, she told me to keep my
eyes down and not encourage him by continuing to look.
My mother attempted to slow down so he would pass us,
but he also slowed down, staying level with us. Finally,
my mother sped up and forced herself in front of
his semi truck.

Speaker 16 (02:04:57):
He moved into the slow lane and sped up to
mee with us.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
Again.

Speaker 10 (02:05:01):
This went back and forth. No matter what my mother did,
he would be there next to us. There were so
few cars on the highway with us that day that
we couldn't just disappear from him. I glance over and
I can see that his seat is raised enough that
I can see his shoulder moving up and down. And
even though Cass and I had no idea what he
was doing at the time, my mother did. At this point,
my mother flips off the man and the smile continues

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on his face, growing wider.

Speaker 16 (02:05:25):
Now we're getting to a point where the road turns
into just two lanes.

Speaker 10 (02:05:29):
The trucker cuts us off sharply as it does and
ends up in front of us. We're in such a
secluded area now that it would be a record if
we even see more than five cars the entire way.
The right lane is against the wall of this giant mountain,
and to the left, beyond the safety railing is a
steep drop off down the hill. The road is also
getting more twisty as we got closer and closer to

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our destination, and it's also starting to get dark. The
man is going slowly now and repeatedly swerves into the
left lane as my mother tries to speed past him
into the wrong road. My mother is getting angry and
presses the gas hard. Now with us in the wrong lane,
he insists on pressing the gas too, trying to match
our speed. Where midway past the truck when he begins

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veering into our lane, forcing us inches from the guard rail.
Cass and I are screaming in terror, unable to control ourselves.

Speaker 16 (02:06:19):
Our brother wakes up.

Speaker 10 (02:06:20):
And begins crying just because we are, and my mother
has a death grip on the steering wheel and has
a look of panic on her face, keeps dipping in
and back obviously.

Speaker 16 (02:06:29):
Enjoying the terror he's causing.

Speaker 10 (02:06:30):
Finally, my mother slams on the brakes and we swerve right,
almost smashing into the mountain wall. We stop, then angled
towards the mountain. He doesn't stop and keeps moving forward.
I can hear nothing but my heart beat pounding in
my ears. My mother is trembling and takes a deep breath.
She doesn't look at us, but my mother struggles to
look back up and get back on the road. I've

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become terrified for a moment that even after avoiding being
forced off the side of the cliff, we might end
up falling backward anyway. After three attempts of backing up
and pulling forward, we finally managed to pull back into
the right lane, going no more than thirty.

Speaker 16 (02:07:05):
Miles per hour.

Speaker 10 (02:07:06):
I'm already prone to getting car sick, so I grabbed
the plastic bag in my seat and I begin to
puke my guts up from fear. My mother rolls down
our windows and we drive in silence until we get
to the last stop before our cabin, only about forty
five minutes away. It's this little rule run down gas station,
but it'll do. We clean up, and I brush my
teeth in the dim bathroom, and we leave now in

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complete darkness. The police in that area are notoriously unhelpful,
so we don't even bother not to mention that cell
reception is unheard of. We drive in silence the rest
of the way there. When we finally get in that night,
Cass and I try to talk about it, but my
mom shuts it down immediately. She tells us that she
was used to men being creepy like that to her,
and that it had nothing to do with us, snapping

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that there's no reason a grown men would be looking
at us like that. Anyways, she builds a campfire for
herself and gets superstoned, making us go to bed as
she calms down. Anyway, I'm just glad that we didn't
die by being forced off the side of that mountain
or even being smashed into the side of that hill
that evening. Even though very few cars drove in that area,

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we were lucky that someone didn't whip around one of
those curves and smash into us while we were stuck
in the wrong lane.

Speaker 16 (02:08:18):
To this day, Cass and I have major.

Speaker 10 (02:08:20):
Anxiety about driving and even just being near semi truck
sets us both into an overwhelming panic after that evening.
No matter how boring the trip is to us or
to you, definitely don't mess with truckers.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
Thank you so much swamped Weller for another creepy story.
If you want more just like that, head on over
to YouTube. Type in swamp Dweller hit subscribe ring that bell.
You got thousands of stories just like that for you
to choose from. Now we're going to continue on with
from American Cryptid and Paranormal Society. We have Christia McCloud,

(02:08:52):
we have Christina, and they are based out of Asheville,
North Carolina, hanging out with us. Normally we go to
Robin Hayes at this time, but due to a family issue,
she cannot make it tonight, so we want to wish
her the best and welcome back Christina. Welcome back Christian
the cryptid Gee. How you doing, Thank you?

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
Thank you as always a pleasure to be back.

Speaker 1 (02:09:17):
We always like it when you're here. We do we do. Next,
topic that I wanted to get into that was popular
in twenty twenty five was the fact of voices in
the woods from Canada to Sweden to Brazil and the
United States and all over the world, hikers and nature
lovers were reportingly hearing voices calling their names, sounds of

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children in remote forests, human sounds like whistles. Some people
believe these were paranormal entities or mimicking cryptids like when
to Go, or flesh gates or skin walkers. His topic
became very popular on TikTok and YouTube, pushing these encounters
into their mainstream fear culture. What's your thoughts on this, Christian?

Speaker 4 (02:10:05):
I I don't have good thoughts about this stuff. I've
I've heard my name called out in the woods. Uh,
and you know, you know, my real name is Christian
and uh, most of my friends.

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
Call me Mac or Chris.

Speaker 4 (02:10:22):
And when we were in the woods, I specifically heard
a woman's voice yelling Christian. It sounded like my mother,
and uh that that freaked me out. That was That
was a couple of years ago. It's funny. I was
actually just reading a story about this recently in North Carolina.
A park ranger and.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
I think it was Piscay in Piscat Park. Uh. He
was doing like a couple.

Speaker 4 (02:10:49):
Of days out, uh, you know, making sure the trails
and everything were clear, and he started hearing his name
being called. And you know, one of the unwritten rules
in Appalachi is if you hear your name called, you
turn around and leave. You know, it's like whistling woods.
Don't do it, You're just gonna track certain suff apple
Atch is a very strange place. There's like a list
of rules you should follow, and one of them is,

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if you hear your name, don't go to it.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
Don't go looking for it.

Speaker 4 (02:11:13):
But when you hear it from like coming from your
mother or something like that, it just it sounds I
don't know how to explain it, but it's like it's
almost hypnotic. But anyway's ranger was following this thing and
he almost walked off part of a cliff like there
was a there was a fallout from the last storm,
and he didn't know it was there, and he just

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kept walking towards it, and had he not stopped, he
would have fallen off the cliff. But he kept hearing
him his mother called his name. In a Native American folklore,
in this area, you hear your name being called, turnaround,
walk away, because chances are it's either a sukaloo or
a skin walker.

Speaker 3 (02:11:51):
And that's I don't know about you. I just don't
feel like running into a skinwalker. I'm just I'm fine.
I don't need that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
Tell us the situation about when you heard your name called,
what happened there?

Speaker 4 (02:12:02):
We were actually it's actually we were scouting out an area.
We were trying to get something done with the Discovery Channel, uh,
and they had us checking some areas and I was
with my buddy Tiny, and we were maybe three or
four miles in and I just heard my mom's voice
saying Christian, Christian, and I Tiny didn't hear it, and.

Speaker 3 (02:12:28):
I was like, what you know, I was kind of
real shocked to hear it.

Speaker 4 (02:12:32):
And then I heard it again and I started trying
to follow it, and then us like what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (02:12:36):
Said, I hear my mom's voicing us, let's go, we
need to leave. Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:12:40):
But I but it was like that point where I
wasn't one hundred percent uh and control of my facilities,
Like I was just yeah, that inborn instinct is when
you hear your mom, you just go, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:12:52):
Visceral response.

Speaker 5 (02:12:54):
It's something that creates a total physical response. It's like
your body responds before you rain can tell you. I'm
not supposed to.

Speaker 4 (02:13:01):
Do that, yeah, because it was just and I was
hearing it in my head and I also heard it all.

Speaker 3 (02:13:06):
I mean, it's just I know how to explain it,
but it creepd me out like that. That creeped me
out for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (02:13:13):
And Tiny, he thank God for Tiny, because Tiny is
just you know, he just grabbed me and said we're leaving,
and you know, it's kind of hard to argue with
something that seven five hundred pounds looks like a pro wrestler.
So he's basically picked me up and turned me the
other way and we started walking back to the cars.
But that, yeah, that's that's happened to me personally, and

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I have talked to other people that have had that
happen to him, and it's never it never ends.

Speaker 3 (02:13:40):
Well. A lot of people think that if you do
that in the Northwest, that the that's the puck.

Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
Wegi doing that and they're trying to distract you, get
you off so they can either kill you or do
harm to you. But I've never spoken to anyone where
that ever comes out good because you know, what's the chances.

Speaker 3 (02:13:56):
My mom lives in Florida on the beach.

Speaker 4 (02:14:00):
I don't know how she all of a suddenly got
into the middle of Mount Pisca.

Speaker 2 (02:14:04):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:14:04):
When he's talked to the day before, I can't.

Speaker 7 (02:14:06):
Imagine your mom in the woods either way.

Speaker 3 (02:14:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's the other thing. This wouldn't happen. Maybe
a helicopter or something. Yeah, but it's it's that stuff.
It's creepy when it happens because it it's.

Speaker 4 (02:14:18):
So it's surreal, but it almost puts you in like
that trends that best you were talking about, But it's
almost like your your reliving childhood memories because you don't.
I didn't feel at that point. I didn't feel like
I was what I was now. I felt like I was.

Speaker 3 (02:14:32):
A little kid.

Speaker 7 (02:14:33):
My unrecognized voice.

Speaker 5 (02:14:35):
Your brain would kick in and you'd be able to
say no, I shouldn't do that, that's stupid.

Speaker 3 (02:14:39):
Go the other way.

Speaker 5 (02:14:40):
But when they it, whatever it is, uses a voice
from your past, or a voice that connects to you
on a deeper level, it's like your body responds, you know,
before your brain can say no, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (02:14:54):
Yeah, it's it's not a pleasant experience. Honestly, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (02:14:59):
I wouldn't w anyone else I have to let it
because it does something to you for a while too,
and it message with your because it makes you start
question reality a little bit more. I'm sure you've had
that happen up where you go.

Speaker 7 (02:15:10):
No, isn't the whistling sometimes bigfoot?

Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
I mean, yeah, that whistling. You never whistled the ones either,
apple Atcha, but that's for different difference. Yeah, well, whistling.

Speaker 4 (02:15:18):
Bigfoot likes to whistle until they communicate, allegedly, and if
they hear you whistling that's not right.

Speaker 3 (02:15:24):
They'll focus in on you or you might be challenging them.
You never know, Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 1 (02:15:29):
Here's the thing, though, you have to be careful with that,
because mountain lions are known to whistle.

Speaker 3 (02:15:35):
Oh I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:36):
And they will try and lure you in. And mountain
lions like to hide in trees.

Speaker 3 (02:15:44):
Yeah, they'll jump their neck bighters here.

Speaker 7 (02:15:46):
Yeah, I had no idea mountain lion's whistled.

Speaker 1 (02:15:49):
Yes, So if you hear a whistling sound in the
forest and you have an area where there's mountain lions,
like my flight twenty one where I actually got a
beautiful mountain lion on my trail cam.

Speaker 3 (02:16:02):
There I saw that.

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
And and it is something that is, you know, something
you have to watch out for. Is is the mountain lions.
But you know, as someone who.

Speaker 4 (02:16:16):
Reports a dog, men and bigfoot will imitate almost perfectly,
mimic your voice. I mean, how many stories have you
heard where you know, a guy comes home and he
hears his dog's name being called out in the middle
of the woods.

Speaker 3 (02:16:32):
It sounds like his voice, you know. I mean, I
don't know how.

Speaker 4 (02:16:36):
Many times I've taken that report I've had. I had
a guy to me he lost what are those hunting dogs?
A blue blue nose. I'm not a big hunting dog.
I don't know a whole lot about hunting. But this
guy had five or six very very expensive hunting dogs.
I think now they're blue nose, blue tips, something like that,

(02:16:57):
but very very expensive, beautiful dogs. And uh, he came
home one night and he heard his voice calling his
dogs out. And had he not been there and told
him I'll come back, he said they went bluetick, Yes,
thank you, para marv.

Speaker 3 (02:17:16):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:17:16):
And he had he not been there and heard that,
well one, he wouldn't have believed it too. He thinks
his dogs are been eaten because they were having some
they were having some pretty big issues out there.

Speaker 3 (02:17:27):
Grain was disappearing from the barn stuff like that, you know.
But he's he's pretty sure he was having a bigfoot issue.

Speaker 4 (02:17:33):
And I'm going to bet he was too, because nothing
else will mimic that, you get, you. I just think
they have that extra vocal cord or that extra ability
to vocally where they can mimic stuff that we can't.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
You know. It's it's just very very interesting over the
you know. I mean, look at all the folklore and the.

Speaker 4 (02:17:50):
Meathost and all the Native American folklore that always talks
about if you hear your name of the woods, you
hear whistling.

Speaker 3 (02:17:55):
Just you know, turn around, walk away. So I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:17:58):
That's if they have Americans sayed to walk away for something,
I guess we'll walk away.

Speaker 1 (02:18:02):
Yes, I agreed. Now I do have to say something
because while you were speaking, all of a sudden, my
studio has been flooded with like a like a candy smell,
like a like a fruity candy smell.

Speaker 3 (02:18:18):
I have this power.

Speaker 1 (02:18:21):
No, I can't figure out where it's coming from.

Speaker 3 (02:18:25):
It's knowing from me.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
Yeah, absolutely weird. I love it. When weird stuff happened.

Speaker 3 (02:18:31):
I hope that's not a sign of a stroke, Dave.

Speaker 1 (02:18:34):
I hope not either.

Speaker 3 (02:18:36):
Yeah, no, how how much did you go out?

Speaker 1 (02:18:39):
It's gone now the smell is gone. Now take it back.
But getting back to the topic. It getting back to
the topic at hand. With voices in the woods, Okay,
I know with us at flight twenty one, we had
it happen this year with the voices were not calling
my orto, mine or Tim's name, but they were saying

(02:19:04):
help me. I'm over here, can you help me? In
a female voice, and then before it switched to the
male voice, it moved in its direction, and it also
said something weird like I love you. And then all

(02:19:26):
of a sudden, after the I love you, the male
voice came out help us where I over here? Can
you help us? And it was all monotone like you
would expect, you know, like when you see these creepy
pasta videos on YouTube or TikTok. These voices are always
high pitched screaming help me, you know, and they're screaming

(02:19:49):
like like a banshee would, And it's difficult to believe
whether or not that's real or not. Now I'm not
saying it isn't, but I could see the creep factor
for the clickbait on wanting to do that. But I
know what we experienced was extremely monotone, like there was

(02:20:13):
no emotion in the voices whatsoever. And that's what stood out.
It was moving. It moved from four o'clock to three
o'clock and then it moved all around us to eleven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (02:20:27):
Do you think it was encrypted?

Speaker 1 (02:20:30):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:20:31):
See that makes me.

Speaker 4 (02:20:32):
That would make sense because a crypto, like I said,
then once they get that voice pattern down, they remember it.

Speaker 3 (02:20:38):
They can mimic at any time.

Speaker 4 (02:20:39):
And you know what, if you think about it, they
don't know about inflection, so they would be monotone.

Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
It was the I love you. Yeah that I remember
looking at Tim and I said, we're not taking a
step closer. That's not human. I said, if we go
look for that, whatever it is, we're not coming home.

Speaker 3 (02:21:02):
No, you did right.

Speaker 5 (02:21:03):
It reminds me of the movie and the Predator movies
play active voices to try to lure them over.

Speaker 1 (02:21:11):
Yeah, it was that time.

Speaker 3 (02:21:13):
It feels about Predator.

Speaker 1 (02:21:14):
Oh yeah, it was incredibly creepy. Let's get to an
audience question here. We got about three minutes ago. Let's
go to t bone Christian. Have you ever heard of
the Yule Lads?

Speaker 3 (02:21:29):
No, sir, did he go by another name?

Speaker 1 (02:21:33):
I'm looking that up. What are the Yule Lads?

Speaker 3 (02:21:39):
Wait? Is that the Irish singing? The Irish singers?

Speaker 1 (02:21:43):
No? No, So. The Yule Lads are one of Iceland's
most beloved and strangest holiday traditions. They are a group
of thirteen mystique, mischievous troll brothers who visit children one
by one during the thirteen nights leading up to Christmas.
Each laid a unique or Each lad pardon me, has

(02:22:03):
a unique personality, a bizarre habit, and a hilarious nickname
that describes exactly what he does. So the Yule Lads
came from Iceland obviously. Their folklore originally scary creatures part trolls,
but over time has been you know, dampened down a

(02:22:25):
little bit to be kind of like what Santa Claus is,
kind of like version of Santa Claus helpers. Each Lad
comes down from the mountains on a specific night, leaves
small gifts or rotten potatoes for the naughty kids, and
then departs after thirteen days and they're wonderful. Weird names

(02:22:45):
and quirks are this. Sheep coat clad harasses sheep gully
gach hides in the gullies and steals milk. Stubby is
a short guy who steals food from panuns, spoon liquor
licks wooden spoons. Pot scraper steals leftovers from pots, bowl liquor,

(02:23:12):
hides under beds and steals bowls of food. Door slammer
slams doors all night. Sky or part of me Skyer
Skyer gobbler eats all of your yogurt like skier. Sausage
swiper obviously swipes the sausages. Window peeper creeps around looking

(02:23:36):
through windows, so in other words, Christian McLoud. Door sniffer
as a giant nose and sniffs out baked goods. Meat
hook uses a hook to steal meat, and candle stealer
steals candles back when they were valuable treats now. In

(02:23:56):
modern tradition, Icelandic kids put a shoe in the window
each night. If they're good, a yule lad leaves a
candy or a small gift. If they're bad, a rotten potato.

Speaker 3 (02:24:10):
This is amazing as a kid.

Speaker 1 (02:24:12):
Yeah, they're making vodka right there. Buying.

Speaker 3 (02:24:16):
I know, I never heard of the that that's that's
actually kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (02:24:19):
There's a yule something about Irish folklore there the there's some.

Speaker 3 (02:24:25):
Group of young men that sing in the woods to.

Speaker 4 (02:24:27):
Calm down angry fairies. But I don't know if they're
called you lads. I thought yule was in their title.
But that's I've never heard of these guys. H I'm
surprised they didn't have a stinky.

Speaker 3 (02:24:38):
Usually there's a painting.

Speaker 1 (02:24:39):
And on that note, we're head to the final half
hour of spaced Out Radio tonight.

Speaker 11 (02:24:48):
Space Stout Radio and your host's name stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:25:13):
T Bone. That was an amazing question, Thank you.

Speaker 10 (02:25:20):
M m.

Speaker 1 (02:25:25):
Oh my gosh, mm hmm, that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:25:37):
We got a big nose. They had jack Off in there.

Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
Oh my gosh, crushy t Bone. You get another one.
Another tip of the cap for that one. That's for you, buddy.

Speaker 3 (02:25:54):
There's two for you.

Speaker 1 (02:25:55):
Oh very oh. Now I gotta give a second one.
There you go.

Speaker 3 (02:25:58):
You gonna make me look better.

Speaker 1 (02:26:00):
Man, but you just made me look bad by double tipping.

Speaker 3 (02:26:03):
Oh man, I'm just saying it's t Bone.

Speaker 1 (02:26:06):
T Bone's awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:26:08):
You know, he's the man. He's the one he's making
his show that T Bone We got nothing. T Bone
is just a Dave show.

Speaker 3 (02:26:19):
This is stinky. He's one of the twelve lads.

Speaker 1 (02:26:25):
Christina. Would you like to tip your cap at T
Bone for that one?

Speaker 10 (02:26:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:26:28):
Yeah, I give your hat. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:26:34):
I love that hat. I do.

Speaker 4 (02:26:36):
Hey, who's the guy that said he benched eight thousand
pounds or one thousand pounds?

Speaker 3 (02:26:41):
I'm calling him out. I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
That's alg on twitch He's he's asleep right now. I
think he goes through about half a bottle of coniac
listening to this show after his workout.

Speaker 4 (02:26:52):
Ok, imagine it's one hundred and fifty bill leaders.

Speaker 1 (02:26:57):
Look at you going all Canadian.

Speaker 3 (02:27:00):
Take off a closer.

Speaker 1 (02:27:05):
Excuse me?

Speaker 12 (02:27:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (02:27:09):
Practice a case. You move up there, my to.

Speaker 1 (02:27:16):
I have a right here.

Speaker 3 (02:27:18):
I know you do.

Speaker 1 (02:27:19):
It's Canadian.

Speaker 3 (02:27:22):
That's my two k h.

Speaker 1 (02:27:30):
Of course you have to have a.

Speaker 3 (02:27:34):
Yes right donuts.

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
I have to tukes in here. That's cool, this one.

Speaker 3 (02:27:48):
You would be cool.

Speaker 4 (02:27:49):
Some spaced out radio ones like a big foot in
the middle, that would be cool. And the green Yeah,
that's a good coach Like that's cool. You should sell
those at the uh, the next festival. You don't like
bringing stuff in there, do you? Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:28:07):
I will this time around?

Speaker 3 (02:28:10):
What are you gonna break t shirts? My face? You
son of a bit? I didn't. I did say the
whole word. And how he feels about that. Actually, I
gotta be honest, David. That looks good on you.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:28:25):
Look at his face.

Speaker 1 (02:28:26):
I'm gonna see if they have any beanies. Hold on,
I'm glad that you call it a tuke though. Hey God,
that's very nice. Oh they do, they do. I just

(02:28:49):
have to figure out how to let's call that one.
See we can sign in this.

Speaker 3 (02:29:11):
Are you kind of stuff? Camera? Mh, Dave as Christine's
been drinking this whole interview. She's been drinking off camera.
I've noticed she's waiting, what's here drinking?

Speaker 1 (02:29:25):
I've noticed terrible, terrible influence.

Speaker 3 (02:29:33):
I'm just having rupier, eh, I know you are, you're hey, God, you.

Speaker 6 (02:29:38):
Don't know, Hey, Rosie.

Speaker 4 (02:29:49):
Now I'm gonna watch Strange Brew, one of my favorite
movies to five favorite movies of all time, Strange Brew
Mackenzie Brothers.

Speaker 3 (02:30:01):
When the Van Did you ever see that movie?

Speaker 1 (02:30:04):
Of course they did many sick where they fan six
beer puddles. Oh yeah, all right, guys, we'll come back
at twenty seconds. Thank you to t Bone Loan, super Chatter,
double Gifter. We love him around here. Yep, here we go, everybody,

(02:30:54):
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Another strange incident in twenty twenty five took real estate

(02:32:01):
by a little bit shocking. All right, Why Well, apparently
more and more real estate agents and their potential clients
we're dealing with a surge of poltergeist activity, objects, moving apparitions,
walking through houses, shadow person sightings. Real estate agents even

(02:32:26):
discussed whether sellers should legally disclose whether or not paranormal
activity happens in a house. It actually became a very
big news cycle during a couple of weeks this year
in the United States. What's your thoughts on this?

Speaker 4 (02:32:43):
That is a good question because I'm in a state
where you don't have to disclose paranormal activity and it
has I'm from New England originally, and back home you
have to disclose paranormal activity as a realtor. I know
it sounds corning, but in Maine you have to tell
people if the place is haunted and there's been paranormal activity.
I'm not sure where other states have that in. I

(02:33:05):
think it's pretty much just in New England and in
New Jersey. I know I appreciach it New Jersey too,
but that's your best. Sad to you, But I you
know what, here's my thing. I believe in the paranormal,
and if the house is priced right, and even if
I have to have the house exercised, it depends how
much money I'm going.

Speaker 3 (02:33:24):
To get out of it.

Speaker 4 (02:33:25):
So it depends on how bad the situation is. But
I do my research, so you know, if they were
having demonic ceremonies up there, I'm out. And I will
tell you this right now. There are places in Ashville
where that has happened. And then because they didn't have
to disclose it, people find out later and they have
hissy fits.

Speaker 3 (02:33:46):
And I don't blame them.

Speaker 4 (02:33:47):
I want to know, but you know, I honestly think
it should be a you know, it's a buyer but where,
of course, But I think people need to know what
happened there, especially if violent death or an unnatural death,
or basically, like you know, someone got action murdered.

Speaker 3 (02:34:05):
I don't want to know, what about you? What do
you want to know?

Speaker 1 (02:34:09):
I would want to know. I've asked every time I've
bought a house, I've asked how haunted it is?

Speaker 3 (02:34:14):
Is there truth or they just laugh?

Speaker 1 (02:34:17):
No, the realtors, the realtors around here have actually been
really cool about it. You know, like when I bought
my house, I asked, how old is the house? Is
it haunted?

Speaker 3 (02:34:28):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:34:28):
Why not ask God a question?

Speaker 15 (02:34:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:34:30):
I And I also ask because anybody died in here, right,
I think it's a pretty fair question to ask anybody.

Speaker 4 (02:34:38):
It is a fair question to asked because you know,
a lot of people don't realize, like in New England,
you know, I think the average house is about one
hundred and fifty years old, you know where I'm from,
in Maine. The house I grew up in, the foundation
was originally like sixteen forty. I mean, that's that's old.

Speaker 1 (02:34:59):
Oh very what happened there, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:35:03):
And I honestly believe, you know, I don't talk about
this much, but the house I grew up in, it
was totally haunted, completely haunted. And I actually think I
had a relative get possessed on that property. I still
believe that to this day. That's why I don't usually
talk about that one, but that the house I grew
up in. When when I say grew up, you know,
I was probably from four to thirteen.

Speaker 3 (02:35:29):
Very paranormally active. We had a barn that.

Speaker 4 (02:35:35):
This strange stuf would happen in there all the time,
like it was one of those places where you I
didn't mind going in there because I didn't have any
I don't know, it was just stupid. I didn't mind
having any you know, I didn't mind going in there.
But my dad and my uncles will get creeped out
going in there. But it was you know, that's just
the way things were back home.

Speaker 5 (02:35:52):
There's only four states that you have to legally disclose
whether a property is haunted when selling it.

Speaker 3 (02:35:59):
New York, in Jersey, Massachusetts, and Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (02:36:03):
Okay, well I think Maine used to be on that list,
but it's probably not anymore. The thing about that, at
a fifty states, you'll have to claire four. Only four
of them will tell you.

Speaker 1 (02:36:14):
It is kind of cool, though, I would totally buy
a haunted house.

Speaker 4 (02:36:21):
Well see, here's the thing, as long as was there
no the demonic activities, I don't gear.

Speaker 3 (02:36:26):
That's the only thing I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:36:32):
Do you think then? Do you think then that? Well,
let's let let's rephrase that for you. How would you
explain to somebody to find out whether or not a
house they are interested in is haunted? We lose them,

(02:37:00):
Oh we lost them there for a second. I'm right here.

Speaker 3 (02:37:03):
We got put in the green room.

Speaker 1 (02:37:07):
Okay, So the question again is how would you explain
to someone who's say, looking for a house to find
out whether or not it's haunted. What what would be
your go to?

Speaker 4 (02:37:22):
I'd say, listen, you get free historic activity in this
particular dwelling. I mean, I I most places have some
kind of paranormal activity if they're over a certain age,
So I think you're going to have to deal with
that anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:37:38):
But I would just tump straight up, Hey, this place
is allegedly haunted.

Speaker 7 (02:37:44):
But if a state doesn't require you to disclose it, how.

Speaker 5 (02:37:48):
Would you advise someone to figure it out?

Speaker 3 (02:37:52):
I tell them no, I mean, if you don't know somebody.

Speaker 4 (02:37:55):
Your house, you have to do the history on the property,
and that means going back, getting the deeds, all those
and then find out what happened to the people.

Speaker 3 (02:38:03):
It is a tedious process.

Speaker 4 (02:38:06):
I've done it hundreds of times over the years for
different investigations.

Speaker 3 (02:38:10):
But that's when we investigate a place paranormally. That's what
we do.

Speaker 4 (02:38:14):
First, we go back to colabrary to the hall records,
find out how old the place is, what was the
original concept idea of the building, the original blueprints, when
it was built, who owned it, how many people have
lived there, And then when you get the family names,
you start doing that track, you know, you start tracing
those and you get the deaths to the hall records
and things of that nature. But it takes it's it's

(02:38:35):
a research project, man. Every place we've ever give one
hundred percent. Uh, you know, to look into a place,
it's research man. And and that's what I suggest. If
you're gonna do that, or if you're gonna buy anything,
you should be researching it anyway. But that's the number
one thing I would suggest. And if you're not happy
with it, you don't get the place blessed. You know

(02:38:57):
that that's and if that can't do it, then you
don't need to buy.

Speaker 11 (02:39:02):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:39:02):
I think too that people like the idea of buying
a haunted house, but they don't understand the danger of it,
Like they go, wait, oh yeah, I bought a haunted house,
or this place is haunted, But they don't talk to
the spirit. They don't sit there and see if the
spirit actually wants to be in there.

Speaker 4 (02:39:19):
Right well, but see that then, But see that's when
you have to lay down the law.

Speaker 3 (02:39:24):
This is our dominion, not yours. You know, you you.

Speaker 4 (02:39:27):
Had the property for X amount of years. Whether you
choose to stay here or not, it's up to you.
But you're not going to interfere in my life in
a negative way whatsoever. And as long as you understand
that you can stay. If there's a problem with you,
then you know you command them to leave. That's your obligation,
that's your right as a human being and the owner
of the property. You know, we have dominion. This is
our dominion. We own this, demandon this is ours. We

(02:39:50):
have control over it. They had their shot. Whether or
not they blew it, or they just don't want to leave,
that's up to them.

Speaker 3 (02:39:56):
But if if you believe in that and you just.

Speaker 4 (02:39:59):
Realize that this is our dominion, that we have total
control over it, and if that doesn't work, you know,
bringing you know Jesus, it's it's it's one of these
things where it can be dealt with. But if I
think if they want to stay, they can stay as
long as they're peaceful and they don't interfere. But I
think sometimes they just get out of hand and you
have to have them basically exercised.

Speaker 3 (02:40:21):
Well, that's assuming that it's hostile.

Speaker 5 (02:40:23):
I mean, wouldn't you want to start out from a respectful.

Speaker 3 (02:40:26):
Point of view and say, yeah, that's what I.

Speaker 7 (02:40:29):
Well, can we could share the space if.

Speaker 3 (02:40:31):
You can be cool.

Speaker 4 (02:40:32):
But yeah, but that's what you tell. But they need
to understand that this is yours. You know, you're in charge.
You're going to make the shots.

Speaker 3 (02:40:39):
That's it. They don't like it, they can leave. That's
all you have to do.

Speaker 1 (02:40:46):
A lot of people are not ready for that though
your homework.

Speaker 3 (02:40:50):
But Dad, people don't believe. There's a people don't believe
in the paranormal, you know, and.

Speaker 7 (02:40:59):
What they see it's a out Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:41:02):
I can't tell you how many times I get, you know,
people you know make fun of the ghost doors or
just make fun of paranormal and all this other stuff
until they need you. It's like being a cop, you know,
your joke until you need it. I'm not saying the
police for a joke, but I'm just saying, you know,
a lot of people laugh like that. So it's it's
one of these things where people, you know, where we

(02:41:23):
go to church. I've had people, you know, I've got
the cryptic guy you know, signs on my car and
you know it's you can tell my car is you know,
it's it's the sub brus decked out.

Speaker 3 (02:41:35):
Man, it's a fall. You know.

Speaker 4 (02:41:36):
We got lights, CB and tent in the beach and
we've got all kinds of camera equipment recording in there.
It's designed, you know, it's it's it's basically purposes is
a recording facility and that's what it does.

Speaker 3 (02:41:46):
And we just take it different.

Speaker 4 (02:41:48):
Places to record or uh, we'll do you know, sound
blasting and things like that.

Speaker 3 (02:41:52):
But it's the car. I've designed it for that. Now
I drive it every day. No, you know, we've got her.
But it's one of these things where or you know,
I take my car. People know it's something different.

Speaker 4 (02:42:03):
But you know, I've taken a church and I've had
people walk up to me and say something and then
you know, two days later they're calling me. You know,
usually they hit you as kind of a joke. They're
trying to mock in you at first, and then oh
hey this happened to us. What do you think this is?
Or can you come out and look at this? And
I always do you know, and and again I said again,
we don't charge, but we always go and help if

(02:42:25):
we can, because that's why I got put us here to.

Speaker 3 (02:42:27):
Help people help each other. And uh, I think what happened?

Speaker 1 (02:42:34):
I want to get to some more there. Their device
keeps disconnecting, very weird, very weird. They'll be back on
there we go, So go set yours. Your microphone's now disconnected. Okay,

(02:42:55):
you got to get that figured out. Yeah, I don't know.
While we're waiting for the crypti gee to get back
into action here, I don't know if I would want
to move into a house that has poltergeist activity that
seems kind of creepy, A haunted house. Sure, there's spirits
of a house. I know that, I know they're there,

(02:43:21):
But it is something that I am just very unsure
of about poultergeist activity because there is a big difference
between the two. There very much is a big difference
between the two. And so all of a sudden having
to to deal with you know things, you know, pots

(02:43:43):
and pans being thrown across the kitchen, or all of
a sudden, you know your bathroom is all mixed up,
you know, or worst case scenario in your man cave,
somebody puts up soccer stuff. That would be horrible, absolutely horrible.
You know, but on a serious note, it would be
absolutely creepy to all of a sudden to have that happening.

(02:44:08):
We really don't know what would cause that. And do
you want to bring especially if you have a family,
do you want to bring them involved, because.

Speaker 3 (02:44:17):
Especially if you have kids, that's what would worry me.

Speaker 1 (02:44:20):
Yeah, that I was just going to say that with children.
You don't know how these spirits are going to react
to toddlers. How many times have we heard stories where
you know, children get the worst of it. The closet's
going crazy, weird looking, you know, ugly scary spirits or
ghosts being seen in their bedrooms, you know, monsters under

(02:44:42):
their beds making noises. I mean, it's nightmarish stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:44:46):
That's scares Minimus.

Speaker 4 (02:44:47):
Would be like the monic possession you get a kid,
you know, how's a kid going to fight that off?

Speaker 3 (02:44:53):
That's what would scare me the most, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:44:56):
And like I said, I still have I personal experience
with that, and I still think I had a relative
get possessed at the house I grew up in when
I was a kid. And that's just something that you know,
you know, you don't forget. Uh And and once you
see that particular patterns start. Even though exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:45:16):
I would not If it's a demonic infested place, I
wouldn't touch it.

Speaker 4 (02:45:24):
I don't care. You're never gonna get that clean. It's
just always gonna be some kind of issue. It's either
gonna be in the house or on the property or
on the there's always something that's gonna be. But that's
why they used to turn monitor, you know. That's why
when the church would take over demonic to that place,
it would become a monastery or.

Speaker 3 (02:45:39):
Something that effects. I mean, you know, it was always
sealed up.

Speaker 4 (02:45:43):
But it's one of these things where you know, property
these days, it one is so expensive and too you
know a lot of people don't do their due.

Speaker 3 (02:45:53):
Diligence on the research, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:45:55):
And I think if they do that, then you know
they'll they'll be better off. Like you're smart guy, you
wouldn't ask your realtor you know, hey, this place. They're
probably honest with you, Dave. They probably only say I
don't know, or you know or yes. But I don't
think a lot of people, if they don't have to
do that due diligence, they're not going to you know, Uh, realtors.

(02:46:17):
You know, they're there in the Mazilla house and make money,
you know, so they don't care if something's happened.

Speaker 1 (02:46:24):
Let's spurn some through some audience questions. Jose is asking
why did dog men often have red eyes and not
some other color like blue?

Speaker 3 (02:46:33):
All right, well, I'm glad you answered. I think it's
the way they reflect the light.

Speaker 4 (02:46:36):
Now, I will tell you this right now, about five
years ago, anytime you got a dog man report, Uh,
there was a specific color of eyes you were looking for.
It wasn't gold, wasn't yellow, it wasn't red, it was
actually blue. If someone said they their eyeshine was reflecting blue,
you actually had someone that had a real dog man.

(02:46:57):
Seno Sep Flying Counter.

Speaker 3 (02:46:59):
I think all his other red eyes and all this
other stuff this nonsense. It might be reflections off of light.

Speaker 4 (02:47:05):
But every real dog man you I've ever taken, every
report I've ever taken, an investigation I've ever done, it's
always been blue. Uh it's I don't know where these
golden eyes. I think that's all just horror fiction. I
think it's all the stories. But every real dog man
or a report, in fact, the last one we took
in Tennessee. The first thing she said was this guy
had blue eyes. It was like light blue eyes. So

(02:47:26):
it was like Luke Skywalker's lightsaber blue. And then I
knew I was saying some of that had a dog
man encounter. But we we were dealing with that about
five years ago. And if they didn't have if they
didn't answer the right question, you know, and that's that's
where you get things from. Like some of the older podcasters,
Coombo and I used to talk about that all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:47:46):
I'd call Coombo and I'm like, listen.

Speaker 4 (02:47:48):
This guy told me this this, and this is the
first thing you can say is what color was the eyeshine?
I'd say, well, she said it was blue, and he goes, well,
you got something there, you know, because if it's you know,
I think sometimes they might reflect the color different uh
you know, flashlight color, illumine.

Speaker 3 (02:48:02):
Uh, you know the lights that come off the one
of the the LEDs.

Speaker 4 (02:48:09):
I think they reflect those differently because that's a different
kind of color. But if you have something with red
eyes that seems to be glowing again, that would be
demonic in nature. There's nothing in nature that has glowing
red eyes, especially If they're self illuminating, that's that's demonic
in nature. Anything else that you hear as far as

(02:48:29):
as a dog banner, stephly, if it doesn't have blue eyes,
h it's probably a mistaken identity.

Speaker 3 (02:48:35):
They're janking your chain. But if it's not, eyeshine, if
it's in actual daylight, I saw amber eyes. Yeah, that's
that's in the daylight. Talk about talk about nighttime. But
they're not. There's not.

Speaker 4 (02:48:50):
They're not glowing, there's not. They're self illuminated. Have you
heard of Dogma in Southeast.

Speaker 1 (02:48:57):
Let me finish. I still got a radio side to
do here, guys. Jose is asking again, have you heard
if dog Man is in Southeast Florida.

Speaker 3 (02:49:07):
Yes, yes, definitely.

Speaker 4 (02:49:09):
I think he's saturated in Florida. We're from Central Florida.
We lived in Central Florida for years, and when Christine
was a little girl, she's see dog Man all the time.
Of course, now she was in near the water and
kind of like a swamp. It's an estuary. She was
kind of an estuary area and she see him there.

(02:49:30):
But there was reports the palmetal wolf Man, I mean,
all that, all that stuff for years and years in
in Maaca. Yeah, in fact, I have pictures of dog
man nests in Maaca from a couple of years ago.
They're on the website. But oh, definitely Florida's Florida's a
hotspot for him, total hotspot.

Speaker 1 (02:49:55):
Let's move on to another question. This we got about
two minutes. Let's go next to param Ever heard of
strange activities from P. A. R. I Oat near Asheville.

Speaker 3 (02:50:09):
I don't know what pr right.

Speaker 1 (02:50:10):
I don't know what that is either.

Speaker 4 (02:50:13):
Asheville has all kinds of weird. I mean, Ashville is
incredibly paranormally active. I mean Ashville is built on the
largest bet of Feldspark courts on the planet.

Speaker 3 (02:50:22):
So if you believe in the paranormal.

Speaker 4 (02:50:24):
Felspark Quarts is basically a battery for the paranormal, and
it's it's just built on a huge the positive that
the Cherokee Nation have been there for either thirty or
forty thousand years. We can't figure out how long it's been,
but that's I mean, we're talking almost after ice age.

Speaker 3 (02:50:44):
So you throw that.

Speaker 4 (02:50:45):
And all the death and all the other things that
have happened in this general area, especially Asheville, it would
not surprise me I mean, I'm telling you right now,
there's plenty of paranormal activity.

Speaker 3 (02:50:53):
I'm just not sure what par means. Be there.

Speaker 1 (02:50:56):
Let's go to another one here, let's go to both.

Speaker 3 (02:51:01):
Yes, yes, that, I'm sorry, the episca astronomical and are
you sted? I have had a lot of cryptive reports
in that particular area.

Speaker 1 (02:51:13):
Both T Bone and k K seventeen want to know
about crampis.

Speaker 4 (02:51:19):
Crampish German folklore.

Speaker 3 (02:51:23):
He's basically the anti Santa Claus.

Speaker 4 (02:51:25):
If you're a bad kid in the old folklore, if
you're a bad kid, he used to put you in
a sack and steal you away and eats you.

Speaker 3 (02:51:32):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 4 (02:51:34):
If you're a bad kid today, I guess you just
leave your cold and you throw a beetn on you
if you're lucky.

Speaker 1 (02:51:41):
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Bigfoot Broadcasting Limited. Thank you so much for choosing to
share your evening with us, because together my friends watching,
we own the night. Mister Bumblefoot, we need a favor,

(02:53:22):
We need you to take us home. Yes, the low
Train has doctor for the night, and soon, my friends,
we shall write again. She's are always available, her tickets
never expire, and if you want to bring a friend,

(02:53:43):
we've got room for them too. Good Night, everybody,

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