Dec. 8/25 - The N1 Sessions with Chris Berryman - Spaced Out Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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We are going to get deep into a different kind
of research tonight, author researcher creator Chris Berryman is going
to be with us as we take a look at

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the N one sessions. Then in our number three Swamp Dweller,
we'll kick things off. Follow that up with the Wizard
Josh Rutledge, who will be here for the UFO Report.
Chris Berryman is the creator and leading researcher behind the
N one Session, a groundbreaking investigative method that blends intuition,

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pattern recognition, and structured cognitive mapping to uncover hidden layers
within the paranormal and high strangeness events. With years of
field experience and a reputation for analytical clarity, Berryman developed
the end one approach as a way to gather non
traditional data points that often escape conventional investigation methods. His

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work has gained attention for producing strikingly specific impressions, unexpected correlations,
and insights that change and challenge mainstream assumptions about consciousness
and the supernatural. His book, The N one Session, You
could get it right now. Chris Berryman, Welcome to spaced
Out Radio for the first time. How are you.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Good, Hey, Dave, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I am very excited to have you here, maman. And
you know I love these top and when people take
an initiative and go deep with it, you know, I
think it adds a lot more than just say doing
a regular ghost hunt or a Ufo Skywatcher sitting out
in the forest waiting for Bigfoot to come out and

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laugh at you. You know, it really does. We're going
to get heavily into that here coming up momentarily, but
I want our audience to learn about you first and foremost.
How did this all begin for you on your paranormal
consciousness journey?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Sure thing, Yes, it's started for me.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I'm someone who has been sort of interested in paranormal
and metaphysical things for probably since the late nineties.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
But it was just sort of.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
My calling, you know, these things I would study, I
would take workshops, you know, just continuously. I had other interests.
I was interested in film and theater and acting and
directing and producing and things like that. And I had
lived in New York and Los Angeles. I now live
back in my native Michigan. And what happened was about

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two thousand in nineteen, I'd say, like the the fall
of twenty nineteen, I had been receiving I had been
having these strange sensory experiences. I was seeing geometry, I
was seeing portals in strange things. Just when I would

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close my eyes, they would be there. And sometimes I
would start seeing them during the day, you know, just
just with my eyes open, and they started to ramp up,
sort of right before the pandemic kicked in, and I
would see, you know, the geometry, the light particles, things

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that looked like flying saucers, strange machinery that I had
never seen before, and this started to accelerate in Eventually
I would see eyes, and I would see faces of being.
Some of them were human and some of them were

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not human. And it scared me at first, but I
just a teacher of mine sort of encouraged me to
like just breathe and stick with it and record what
you're seeing.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So I did, and that led to an experience.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
And I'm guessing this is probably like the spring of
twenty twenty, where I was laying in bed. I was
wide awake and the lights were on in my bedroom
and I was just sort of like relaxing my bad
and I did close my eyes, but I felt this

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sort of I think I noticed some of those images
were there when I closed my eyes, but I felt
this sensation of being drawn upward and it started increasing,
and I knew something was happening, but something inside me
told me to just relax and go with it. So

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I did, and after that go ahead being brought upward.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Thing happened.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I started seeing a control panel, a desert landscape, hands, different,
many things, and it was a positive experience. I started
hearing this music and it felt like I was getting
like five energy healing sessions all at once. I wouldn't
call it abduction. I would call it sort of a

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though some people might view it that way. I would
call it.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Sort of an invitation that I accepted. And that led to.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Long story short, that led to a conversation with a
being known as N One and a collective of beings
who originate from Orion, and that was the foundation of
my first book, which is an illustrated sci fi story
book called Flying Saucer Visions, and then also with this

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upcoming book, uh, which is more which is nonfiction and
more in depth essays, which is called The N One Sessions.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I'm already all in, man, I am already all in
the minute, you said, Orian, I am all in on
the WOA this one, my friend. And let me let
me tell you. When you have these these very dramatic
traumatic experiences that change your entire perspective and your direction

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in life, that kicks you in the teeth and basically says,
this is the way you're going and you don't have
a choice on this. What was life before all of this?
Were you a happily boring guy like I was when
when this was going on, or was this something that
you just kind of kind of pushed through?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I think I was. I was happily boring. I think
I still am happily boring. But I was also moody
and restless and sort of I was having I had
just gotten out of this really uh nasty relationship situation
and I needed a perk.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I think I needed some sort of energetic.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Kick and I definitely got it, and it's still ongoing now.
It was the as as described those experience, Those initial
experiences were jarring and a little scary and uh, something
that sort of rocked my world a little bit.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's become more integrated into my life now.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
This connection and it's something when I when I connect
with these this, these beings, this source, it's on my terms.
I tend to do it in cycles like moon cycles
or equinoxes, solstices, midpoints, and it's it's this awareness and
sort of these these energetic teachings are something that are

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are more just part of me now.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
So it's been a positive thing.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Did you ever see your life going down this path.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
I with with u ets and other dimensions beings? No, now,
I was, you know, I I liked New Age things.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I always have.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
I was interested in meditation and i've you know, studied
with several teachers and everything.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
It was. It was the metaphysical or.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
The the body mind was already part of my life,
but not in this way. This is this is more
of a to me. This is more of a direct
experience or a direct contact. So I did not I
did not see this happening.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So as this started to happen, you know, obviously when
these things first started to happen, you kind of keep
control of yourself, trying to figure out is this real?
Is this memory? As you know, take us through that,
take us through that.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Sorry sorry to interrupt you, but I was what you
said just triggered so many memories.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
And I.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
In the book I describe how I was put through
tizzies of self doubt. It was just I wasn't sure
what was happening. Like you, I didn't know is this something?
Are these beings that I'm seeing? Is this something that
I can trust. Is this something that I should be
welcoming and that I had a lot of I had

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a period of not only self doubt but sort of
just really wrestling with it.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Or some time.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
But as I got to know the energy, it had
such a reverent, almost monk like respect and a gentle
quality as well as a fierce wisdom connected with it,
and that is why I was able to trust it
and let it in. I think over over time, over months,
like through the years of the pandemic and up until now,

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how did.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You find your point of just accept it and go
down the rabbit hole? Because I know, like when I start,
I had a guru working with me. Okay, I call
him my guru. His name is Pascal, probably one of
the most influential people in my life. When all of
a sudden, my experiences started really taking off late in

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twenty eleven, right through to you know, twenty twelve, when
I started working through with Pascal, and then right through
twenty fourteen. I mean, that was the wildest time of
my life when things were going on, you know. But
I remember him the first time we finally sat down,
it was like eleven thirty eleven forty five at night.

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I barely know this guy, and he's like, hey, man,
what do you say you and I go for a drive?
So well, it's kind of late, he goes, so what,
let's just.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Go for a drive.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So we went for a drive and one of the
first questions he asked me was how far down the
rabbit hole do you want to go?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
And I remember saying all the way, all the way,
because I thought, you know what, I'm having a lot
of ghost activity in my house. I've had a couple
of really strange experiences. This is getting kind of cool.
I could talk to ghosts, I could do that kind
of stuff, you know, And I didn't realize that it
included ets and UFOs and cryptids and all sorts of

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weird stuff that was going on. Did you have somebody
guiding you or did you have to go through it alone?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
At the very beginning, I had one teacher who encouraged
me because she had had similar experiences. Her name was Elaine,
and she just said, Okay, just when you're seeing this geometry,
when you're seeing these things, these beings, just you know,

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don't be scared number one, and just ask them what
they wanted.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
She encouraged me to open up a line of.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Communication, which sort of, you know, the whole thing then
opened up in the whole thing then kicked in and
it triggered. It's triggered two books so far, as well
as other material, and it's ongoing. So just at the beginning,
for me, I most ninety percent of this, this is
what's for me.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I tend to.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Be more of a loaner, even though I do have
a circle of friends, right or But the strange thing
about this for me is that I really felt compelled
after that initial encouragement to.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Go this on my own.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
And set up my own firewalls in my own way
of doing it. So I think that's kind of strange,
but it's it's it's part of my It's a defect
in me that I tend to withdraw like that. I
think it's great that you had that such a spirited
teacher or friend guiding you, and I think for a

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lot of people that works better.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Probably it really was something that I'm glad that I had.
I don't know if I and I'll be honest with you,
I don't know if I would have survived if I
did right right, because I got hit when when I
got opened up to this world, I got hit like
a two by four in the back of the head,

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like it was just it was fast, it was furious,
it was all sorts of of high strangeness paranormally that
just hit me all at once. I didn't know what
to do, right, don't.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
I don't know if you've experienced this, but like I think,
I remember trying to talk about it with certain friends
and I could tell that it was making them immediately uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, And so I stopped so because I don't didn't
want to.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
I don't want to force any ideas or or stories
on people before they want to hear it. So I've
And then there are some other friends who have been
totally open to it and totally helpful and receptive.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
So I guess it just depends.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
I think this.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think the E T and the and the extra
dimensional phenomena makes some people very scared.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes, I would remember that, I would agree with you.
And you know, looking back, I have lost all of
my closest friends over it, but I built new ones.
I built new ones that I could trust, that that
I could you know, go to on this and and
you know, it's funny you you grow up with these

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people your whole life and immediately they think you've lost
it when you've just gone on a different path and
you just need some help. But you know what, it
didn't surprise me in my end, Okay, it really didn't.
Looking back on it, Like when I went through my
divorce and in What You was at two thousand and nine,

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twenty ten, like my friends kind of shied away from
me on that one because I was the first one
out of our group married, that was the first one
out of our group divorced, and and so they it
was weird how they kind of shied away from me. Then,
so this second time around, when all of a sudden
I started having these amazing experiences, it really didn't bother

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me as much as it did prior.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Right right in that that, I feel that thanks for
sharing that, because I feel that's kind of in process
for me right now, Like I mean, it's I'm I
don't want to I don't want to force I don't
really bring us up to people when I meet them
or a stab with the friends that I have, I
don't volunteer to talk about this, but if they want

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to talk about it, I'm more than willing to.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
See, that's where I struggle. I love talking about these topics.
Like in my small town where I live, Man, I'm
kind of known as not the town weirdo, but I'm
known as the paranormal.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Guy, the sasquatch.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, Like I can walk in down the main street
of my small little town and people will be like, Hey,
there's the Sasquatch guy, or that's the guy who runs
the ghost tour something along those lines.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Did that take a while?

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Did that take a period of transformation of becoming the
sas Sasquatch guy, like or did you just fall into
that pretty quickly?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Uh. The paranormal side came first because what I did
was I started a paranormal ghost tour to raise money
for our local museum that was haunted, and people got
to know me that way. But I've kind of transformed
since about twenty eighteen into going to look for sasquatch

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and the cryptids and everything like that. So it's been
a lot of fun that way.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I say, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, yeah, So I mean with that happening it people
now know that and there's a couple people in town,
probably not as invested as as I am in it.
But there's a couple of people in town that you know,
you'll hear people say, hey, man, you know this person
over here goes and looks for sasquatch all the time,

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or that person has a couple of areas. But I
get a lot of First Nations people who will tell
me stories. I'm lucky that way. And I get a
lot of logging truck drivers that will tell me things.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Oh that they've had They've seen things, and they've had experiences.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Oh yeah, you know out there.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it's very weird because my town, the loggers won't
really talk about it, but the logging truck drivers will.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, well that's okay. You know, I think we're
allowed to take in.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Things, and our lives can consist of what we want
wanted them to consist of. That's and I want to
I want to be respectful of that. But at the
same time, I have to speak my truth and I
have to say what I've experienced. And there seems to
be a lot of other people experiencing these things.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
So why don't we talk about this?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
You know, it goes it you know it also it
also challenges religion, and that's that's another hurdle that perhaps
some people, you know that that might be a hurdle
for some folks.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
You know, it's funny in our local museum, I'm I'm talking.
I'll be in talks with them as of next month
on trying to set up a little bit more paranormal
tourism there. Yeah, and I know that there is a
little bit of backlash by community about that. Like one
of the churches, actually the church that's literally about one

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hundred and fifty yards behind my studio here, a couple
of years ago, they got caught going around all the
buildings blessing them because we were bringing demons and all
evil spirits into the museum and you know, we were
causing havoc spiritually there and they ended up getting kicked
off the.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Grounds for that.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
But it's kind of funny how people react to that
type of conversation, isn't it, Chris, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
It is in the whole thing with you know, it
is important to use discernment because not all with any
being or any situation that you find yourself in involving
beings from other dimensions or or other phenomena whether it's

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UFO or whatever.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Discernment is important, but.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
We can't automatically go to that, like you know, automatically
have that knee jerk fear reaction in the the demon
thing seems to.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Be a knee jerk reaction for a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
But it's easy fear.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally easy fear and not wanting to
It's that fear of the unknown in wanting to create
a story surrounding everything where we don't like research this
idea of this show, like researching investigation. We're here to
explore because maybe we don't know all the answers.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
That's very tough.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
That's that's just that's just one way to look at it.
I'll get off that soapbox now.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
But yeah, but I think anything that is enlightening and
open minded to towards these type of topics is going
to ruffle some feathers.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Absolutely absolutely, And it's a but it's we can I
think we can ruffle feathers in a way that's supportive
and respectful. But it's just a matter of being unfiltered
with the truth that you see or the truth the
things that you think are real. I've had I've had

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to do that with uh, with this book with without because.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
There are some ideas that.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
They have come through with the end one in the
N one Sessions that you know, perhaps will be a
bit controversial, but I think it's I think it's digestible,
I think, and I think it's in alignment with with
some of the stuff that other people.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Are bringing through too. So that's that's all good.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, we're going to go to break here in about
twenty seconds, and and so far, I can't believe we're
already burned through thirty minutes of this show because.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
We just started right.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I mean, you know, you're having a good conversation when
the show is flying on by. And I am so
excited to have Chris Berryman on as a guest tonight
on spaced Out Radio because when we return from the break,
we are going to learn about the N one session.
Is it possible to have communication with beings from a

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different star system, maybe a different constellation Orian? Maybe a
lot of people believe Orian is where it began on Earth.
As weird as that sounds, We're gonna get into Chris
Berryman and his book about the N one Session next
on spaced Out Radio. All Right, we are clear. That

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is a good start, man.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, man, I told you it was gonna fly by.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
You were right. You were right.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
And it's just the way that you set things up, Davi.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
It just triggers so many other ideas that they want
to want.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
To be expressed. So this is this is cool.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, man, we're like I said, it's gonna be the
fastest two hours man, that you've ever done. It's gonna,
I hate to say it, but it's gonna make you
disappointed with others.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think you're right. I already am.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Oh man, oh god, we're going to get into this.
I am so so pumped about this. You have no
idea how pumped up I am about getting into this
next part. Je if I can get into my own WU.
I'm not going to mention this during the show, but
my own WU. I have very strong connection to orian

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Ah tell me more. Well, when I going back a
couple of years, my contact has kind of died down
over the last little bit, and I think they're given
giving me a break. Mm hmm okay, if that makes sense.

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And prior to that, I have they I got taken,
not taken, but in a dream state one night, I
was shown that I have two bodyguards, spiritual bodyguards, and
they are from If you look at O'rion's belt, in

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between the bottom two stars, there is a faint star
that you can see out of your peripheral but cannot
see out of it directly. There's kind of a faint
star there.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
What's do you know the name of it?

Speaker 5 (26:53):
I'd have to look it up.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay, okay, hold on, it's not safe, is it.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
I'll give me two seconds. Yeah, no, Umm it's Sigma yep, yep, yep. Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
So the image that they showed me of these two dudes,
they're about ten feet tall. They are always cloaked in black, okay,
like a black hood with a black cape going right
down to the ground. And the head is like a

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like glass with a flame from a lighter in it.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, I wonder what those But I've seen these similar
I think I've seen these beings before.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
I never saw the face, but I saw the cloak
like you're describing.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And but it seemed they seemed, you know, they.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Seemed uh uh, commanding but good, well intentioned at the yes,
and definitely mysterious.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
But very protective.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Is really interesting.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Very protective dude, very like I can. I can summon
them in like that.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
That is so cool.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
And the cool part about it is is if I,
let's say I have a friend or a person I
care about who's in a little bit of spiritual trouble,
I can say, Okay, boys, I need you to go
over there to that person's house. I need you to
protect them, to get whatever's there that's bugging them gone.

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I had a young girl, she was twelve thirteen years old.
Her mother contacted me about it, and she was having
troubles with grays at her window and her bedroom was
on the second floor. She'd actually said she had flown
the craft right, but she was getting scared because there
was a second set of grays that wasn't doing too well.

(29:25):
And I actually got these dudes to go there and
protect her. She never had troubles with the grays since.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, they're almost like their spirit guides.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, they're like spiritual. I don't call them guides, I
call them more spiritual bodyguards.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, yeah, protectors.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I don't know their names, don't know what they look
like outside of that glass head with the flame on it.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, well that's pretty close. Yeah, you got a pretty
good view.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Think we're coming back in fifteen seconds. Still waiting for
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My name is Dave Scott. We have author and researcher
Chris Berryman with us. We're going to get into the
N one session coming up momentarily, but first we want
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about his research and his logging of this incredible, incredible
story called the N one Session. Now N one may
sound like a group or it may sound like something
that you put together, it's not. It's an alien being. Chris,
welcome back, Thanks Dave. Let's give a shout out. First

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and foremost, where can people find your book?

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Sure they can find The N one Sessions on Amazon
or Barnes and Noble's website, pretty much anywhere books are sold.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
It is in the.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Pre sale right now, and it's going to be released
in feb But you can you can go online tonight
in order and if you want to. Yeah, that's that's
basically it.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I am very excited about this story because I feel
like I have a little bit of a tie with
my own experiences to the constellation O'Ryan. This is one
of the reasons why I love it when fall and
winter come because literally I have an eastern bird's eye
view of Oriyan as it's coming over, and like right now,
I can point out my studio and tell you that

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it's just to my left in the sky.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
What is the love? How did this all begin with?

Speaker 5 (32:35):
N one?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Tell us about it?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Well?

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Based on the those experiences that I described earlier with
being sort of my energy body being first of all,
first having these visions of sacred geometry and portals and
light particles and flying saucers that I was having very
readily every day at the beginning of the pandemic, and

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then being brought sort of my energy body being pulled
up onto some sort of space craft or some sort
of energy craft.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Then a conversation opened up, and.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Basically I was I found a method that I could
let these beings speak through me and write through me.
And I've learned that this is a collective that is
in based on the outer limits of Orion, not far

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from serious a and this this group, I call them
the Orion Contingent, and that was the name they liked,
so it stuck. And n One is the leader I'm
told of the Orion Contingent.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
They're sort of space archaeologists.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
They have a monk like quality, and they're they're seeking
both uh scientific expansion, which is on their level, which
is they're aware of things that we perhaps not many
people on this planet think about, but they also have
a there there also are in tune with wisdom, seeking wisdom,

(34:18):
and they have sort of a sort of a philosopher's
energy as well. That's what I've come to know about this, uh,
this group.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
The contact that you had as it began for you,
did it come in increments or did it just kick
you in the button make it happen?

Speaker 4 (34:38):
It came an increments, and there was definitely respect for
my free will in in uh receiving these messages and
these these sessions.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
It did. There was a how do I say this? There?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Through these through what I was seeing and experiencing, there's
to be a force saying, hey, hello, we have something
to say, we have something that we want to share
with you, we want your attention. And so there was
a pressure, a sort of something kicking me in the butt.

(35:17):
But it was definitely something that I was allowed to
experience in increments.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, and I still.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Am how long has this been going on for you?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (35:29):
So the initial experiences started I'd say in twenty nineteen,
So it's been going on for gosh, almost six years.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
As it's gone on and as it's kind of moved
your life forward, how much time is it consumed with you?
Because I know for me, it literally became very tough
for me to concentrate on anything else whether it's my
daytime job, I mean, whether it's it was life in
jail general, Like I felt like it was consuming all

(36:02):
of me at that time between twenty eleven and twenty
fourteen for me, how about yourself, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
It's it's definitely. It's because because it pulls me in,
It kind of pulls me in kicking and screaming sometimes,
like because it's it's something that once it pulls me in,
I just am I become like almost obsessive about it.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I really want to. I want to get really.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Clear on what's being communicated or what's what I'm seeing,
what I'm experiencing, what's coming through. So it definitely can
be all consuming, as you describe. I've learned to balance
it out to so that I'm not burdened or overwhelmed

(36:53):
because the channeling sessions, in these sessions where these beings
can be in a cave, whether it's spoken or written,
that feels exhilarating to me. But it's when I have
to because I then take it and I want, you know,
it's usually recorded in some way when I have to
go back in and sort of put it into English

(37:16):
because I want to do that too. And you know,
make it flow with grammar, and because spoke spoken uh
communication is.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Quite different from written communication. I've I've found.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
That's when it's just because it's like this high a
lot of really high frequency concepts and high energies and
that that I have to pace myself with it because
it can it can be exhausting.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
How much of yourself did you put into this project
when contact was first made?

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Well, luckily this when when contact was first made, it
was during the I guess what you'd called lockdown. Yeah,
so I had a lot of time on my hands,
so it was I showed up daily with it, even
though I.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Was doing other things too.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
I was checking in on family members that I was,
you know, just trying to deal with what was happening.
And I was able to sort of, you know, like
everyone else, just have some downtime. But it was something
that was coming, you know, coming through, or something that
was appearing regularly almost every day, so I was able to.

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I had a lot of free time during this period
when it initially came through.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Who is en or what is N one?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Well? N one is a being.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
He it's a male energy and he seems to be
I've only seen him in glimpses, quick glimpses. But he
seems to be like a I guess what you'd call
a galactic human.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
What I'm told, and this is just described in the
N One Sessions, is that his origins are actually from
serious a right, and that he moved into to collaborate
with a group of beings in Orion in this uh
sort of an order.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
And that's what I call the Orion Contingent.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
But he is he's sort of a philosopher and a
very wise being, and he is the he's sort of
the initiator. He was the N One was the initial
contact that I had, and he sort of introduced this
this group and brought up many many talking points, many

(39:39):
things that he wanted to discuss.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
And that is the that is the.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Content of both of my books, the including the upcoming
EN One Sessions.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Has he ever given you the answer?

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Why you.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
I?

Speaker 3 (39:54):
You know? I that hasn't really been addressed.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
I have some I did have an experience which clued
me in a little bit more, and that perhaps I
have from some other existence. I have some connection with this,
with this place in Orion, and maybe these group of beings.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
I'm not quite sure yet. But I do think it
was something to do that.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
They perhaps they knew I would be open to the
content of what they were saying, and also that I
was that I was simply available.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I don't have children.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
My life wouldn't have been for some people being having
these experiences thrust upon them might have really turned their
life upside down. And while it was jarring for me,
it it didn't.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
It didn't. I was able to handle it.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
So I think that it's it's maybe a combination of
those things.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Has he ever shown himself to you?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Just very.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Very briefly, And one of them was sort of in
a I did a it was sort of a hypnosis
session that I did, and he is tall, very distinctive eyes,
sort of a sandy sandy hair color, and skin that glows.

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And that was a very quick glimpse that I got.
That's all I know so far.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
How did you know it was him? I just knew.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I just knew, And that's I.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Wish I could say more than that, but I just
knew that that's what was being revealed to me.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
It's weird because that you say that, because it's very
ironic that people like you and I when we say
we just knew when that situation happened, like my first
butt kicking into this field is well today's I'm about
five days away from the fourteenth anniversary of my butt kicking, okay,

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and I saw the Angel of Death in my in
my mom's eyes. And so what happened there, Chris was
people have often asked me, how did you know it
was the Angel of Death? I just knew. I knew
what I was looking at. I was not one hundred percent.
I was one million percent convinced. So when you saw

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and one and you're saying that you just knew, I
get that.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah, and I wish I could.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I don't have any anything else to offer, as I guess,
just this that experience, that very vivid experience, and then
this just this inner knowing that connected all these things together,
these past experiences, this what was going on, the messages
coming through, And I think that was given to me

(43:06):
because that that needed I needed that, you know, I
needed to be shown that in order for it to
make sense. And it was it was a very uh,
it was a very high experience, brief brief as it was.
It was, it was something that I really appreciated.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
How do you know when he's around.

Speaker 8 (43:28):
Well, it's interesting when I sometimes this source, it feels
like it's they're communicating as a group, and that energy
is as a much more it's a softer, more inquisitive
and sort of.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Detached philosophical energy.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
When when N one comes through, which happened during the
the first part of the book, definitely is is him
just coming forth. It's a stronger, more irreverent, comical, and
unfiltered energy. Even though it's it's it has a lot

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in common, the sort of the.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Same the same uh.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Cosmic point of view as the other material uh from
the group, from the group consciousness. It has a certain
hood spot to it, right, And I know it's I've
that's something I've come to recognize.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
So when you say you're having conversations with him, are
you channeling him? Or are you are you like sitting
down in dream mode he's giving you these conversive downloads.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
It happens in different ways. The mostly it's it's channeled.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Mostly it is channeled, And but I also sometimes use
automatic writing, and that can also that can feel like
a conversation, like a like a one on one conversation.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay, So with that conversation and that I've never done
automatic writing, so maybe for people who don't know what
that is, could you explain what it is?

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Sure, it's a form of spirit communication where you are
able to relax enough and get into a certain zone
or a certain mode where where ideas it just the right.
You take a piece of paper and a pen and
it just comes through.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
For me.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
It happens in sentences, phrases or sentences one at a
time first, and.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Then it kind of just takes over. It's something that
I was actually trained in.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
But it's I've I've all these techniques that I was
trained in for this, for this contact right that since
twenty nineteen they've sort of expanded and I've had to
adapt them a little bit. But it's it's a it's
a technique where you use breath and you have to
be in sort of a little bit of a trance

(46:09):
state to do it. But it's something you can anyone
can learn, whether it's just picking up messages from spirit,
from inner guidance, from whatever source. But automatic writing is
a it's a form of spirit communication.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I guess you'd say so in all.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
The words that you have said tonight on how this
kind of started I'm trying to paint a picture in
my head of it because I'm just absolutely intrigued here.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
Chris.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Okay, So when when you first got hit with that
first channeling session, did you know what was going on
where all of a sudden, this voice or these images
of words in your head were coming from. Did you
think that me you were having a maybe you know,
you were a lack of sleep, or maybe you had
a couple too many brews skis or too much coffee

(46:58):
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
No, it wasn't like that at all. I I initiated
it myself. Is that because the source these experiences were there,
I was seeing things. It was right in front of me,
and I had at that point, I had had some
training in uh, I guess what you'd call psychic work or.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Different forms of communication.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
So I actually just using a simple question and answer
technique I initiated. But then it started coming through with
the force that you just just described, and it was
something that I had to learn to to uh, to
manage or grapple with. I had to learn to harness
it as it because this was different, This this very

(47:44):
high frequency i'm gonna call it et energy was was
different than anything that I had been that I had
worked with before.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Did it scare you right off the bat? Or did
you you when you reached out and made contact did
it kind of catch you off guard with the response
of everything.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
There was when it started coming through.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
I think I was.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
A bit shocked at how the flow of it and
the speed of it at first, even though it did
come through in chunks, the information did, and in the
end one session, so I'll think you see that the
prologue is sort of in chunks, and then it starts.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
To flow in the first chapter a little more more freely.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
The thing that scared me at first when it was
when I first saw the faces of these beings and
that some of them were human and some of them
were not human, including some reptilian faces. And that frightened me,
you know, because just of all the bad reputation that
reptile beings have in the in the in the New Age,

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et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
You know.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
But I came to realize that not all that there
are benevolent reptilians as well, and actually whole races of
benevolent reptilians from Orion, and that I had that my
consciousness was expanded on that whole subject matter through these

(49:25):
through these sessions that came through.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
I don't know if I missed this or if I've
even asked you this yet, because I'm just so enthralled
and trying to capture everything that you're saying tonight. Why
did you initiate contact with this? Why did you go
down this path?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Well, because they just wouldn't leave me alone. That's that's why.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
That's really the reason why I felt I was forced
to and perhaps they they that was the plan maybe
from the start.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
But now the even though I still.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Have visions, I still have experiences, they have relaxed tremendously
and it's not so in.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
My face on a day to day basis.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
But I really I initiated it was more like, what
what do you want? What do you what is it
that you see? It was sort of that had that
kind of motivation behind it.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Do they allow you to see their craft?

Speaker 5 (50:29):
I have seen.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I have seen many crafts, many many crafts.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Now the one in the that experience of being in
the craft, I just I saw the control panel and
sort of a little bit mostly it was mostly looking
out of the craft through through some kind of window.
I have been many, many that looked like flying vehicles.

(50:55):
And this is this is used in my first buck
flying Saucer vision. With this this little boy, the main
character Christian and his experiences, he is seeing all sorts
of craft, and I'm still seeing new craft that I
that is.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
New to me, that I've never seen before. So that's
the for some reason.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Though I am not an engineering person, I am not
a scientific particularly scientific minded person, but one thing that
has been revealed to me continuously is different types of craft,
and I've tried to describe and capture it as best
I can.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Have they ever invited you along for a ride.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Mostly just that that initial that initial journey, which maybe was.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
A introduction of some kind.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Uh so far since since the material has been coming through,
that's been the main focus. But we'll see, we'll see
if I go on any any journeys in the near future.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
We have to go, I'm open to it. You know,
we have two minutes ago before we go to break
at the bottom of the or top of the hour.
Chris Berryman is our guest tonight. Now we've heard in
the UFO world over the last number of months, maybe
a year and a half, two years about summoning in
CE five has really seemed to take off again. I'm curious,

(52:29):
what's the difference between say CE five or summoning compared
to what you're doing with N one.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Oh well, I guess when I think about it, there
are some similarities. But the and that's is that the
doctor Stephen Greer is one of the leaders of that.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I believe, I think he might be. I think that
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
I never stood there and said extraterrestrials, please come talk
to me. They they came to me first, and yes
I opened up communication with them, but I did not.
I never, I never sought this. This is not every
anything I ever went out and tried to summon on

(53:24):
any level.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
And yet you can have communication with them anytime you want.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
And you can have communication with them anytime you want?

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah, yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
I can, and it's something that I try to do
in cycles like I tried to do it.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
In seasonal cycles.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
But yes, it appears that I can, and that probably
many people.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Do and can.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
There is just so many questions that I have in
so little time before we got to go to break.
Let me tell you this, man, I don't know if
a lot of people tell you this or not, but
as an interviewer, I believe you.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
I do.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Oh well, that's great feedback, Dave. Thanks for sharing.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I really do believe you. And in the next half hour,
I want to get into the messages that N one
is giving you and what the purpose of those messages are,
because in the end, we can all talk about communication,
but we got to know what the medium of the
message is, you know, And I want to get into
that with you because I think you're a pretty honest guy.
I don't think you're pulling anybody's leg here on this.

(54:36):
You seem very genuine and we're gonna continue that. Chris
Berryman is here today. What is it like to channel
messages from an alien being? We're gonna find out next.
It's based out Radio.

Speaker 9 (54:52):
This is spaced Out Radio with Hopes Dame Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
All right, all right, buddy, we have about just over
six minutes. Okay, I'm gonna put you in the green room.
I'm gonna just disappear for a quick break and I'll
be right back. Okay, all right, quickly here Hi Sandra, Hi, Sandra, Hi, Sandra, Michelle,
how are you today? Nice? To see you. Who else

(55:22):
has joined us here? Andromedin. Nice to have you back,
and we'll get to the rest of you when we
come back. Are we just gonna put you in the
green room?

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Chris already?

Speaker 10 (56:06):
Us h.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
All right, I am back and let's bring Chris back in. Buddy.
This is flying by?

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Really is I'm amazed? I just looked at the time.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah, this is a good convo, dude.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Yeah. Absolutely, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Get you to if you can turn your speaker down
a little bit, get a little bit of clicking.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
I don't want that. Is that better?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Let me check here because it seems to happen when
I'm talking. That's better?

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Yeah? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
All right quickly here in the studio. How you doing,
Forrest Louis? How you doing, Susan? How are you? Hope
you're well? My dear mj Nice to see you. Let
me try something on this in here. Let's here try that?

(01:00:47):
Is that all right? Let's try that out, see if
that kind of works.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Eighteen seconds, AJ and Jays, thank you for the super
chats tonight. Greatly appreciate your love. Tyler. How you doing,
my man, Jason Gemmett, how you doing, Buddy, how you doing?
How's that mustache? Give us an update? Here we go,

(01:01:23):
Here we go at the second hour of spaced Out
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tuning us on in wherever you are on this beautiful
planet we call Earth. As we prepare for our number
two with author and researcher Chris Berryman and the messages
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back our guests. He's an author, he's a researcher, he's
an experiencer of the strange and unknown, and he's been
channeling a being called N one, and we're about to
learn what these messages are momentarily, Chris Berryman, thank you
so much for being on Spaced Out Radio tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
The messages, let's get right to them. When the messages
first started coming from N one, who is an alleged
being from the Orion star system, what was it like
tell us about that first message.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Well, the first message, what that came through was sort
of a bigger picture, and this is this is saying
first of all, told me you can call me N one,
and then went into sort of starting to describe this

(01:03:25):
collective of being based in Oriyan. There even that they exist,
I'm told in these sessions, which is documented in the
N One Sessions.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
They exist in a realm that is perhaps mostly non.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Physical, but they have the ability to move into the physical.
So there's a there's a it's near between the stars,
safe and serious. A is sort of the area of
their inter dimensional operations. This, this is what came through
in the sessions as well, and then the which became

(01:04:05):
the book. Many many topics were then.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Revealed a lot of times people who have contact and
get messages from the stars actually seem to have very
similar messages where it gets into your planet is dying.
You need to take better care. You got to stop
the wars. You guys are you know, very infantile in

(01:04:34):
the way you are treating things. You are very you know,
young and angry for no reason. And you know we're
not going to let you into the Galactic Federation if
we keep on working on this, you know, if we
don't keep keep moving here. I mean, Chris, just your
thoughts on everything, of the messages that you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Got, Yes, and I hope something just disappear, and I
hope you can still hear me and see me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
There we go, Okay, Yes, this is true. This is
so true.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
And the the things you just described about you know,
you guess, well, that's sort of like that's the that's
the basics, you know, the basics. It's when I'm going
to actually read a source or I want to know
more about any source. If they then go into instead

(01:05:36):
of just blaming or finger pointing, if they go into
the reasons why and that it's not completely our fault
that they that they can then back up what they're
saying and perhaps offer some assistance or inspiration for healing

(01:05:57):
the planet orb and working towards solutions to problems. But
I think that the fact that there are a lot
of the overall, a lot of the the the channel
material is bringing up similar information is because it's it's true,

(01:06:18):
because this is there are a lot of the channels are
saying similar things because that's what is That's what reality.
The reality is out there. But I again, I think
it's it's I'm going to listen more to any source

(01:06:38):
that explains how we got helps to explain how we
got here and what is going on now, and then
looking to the future and and perhaps offering some inspiration for.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Bettering ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Did you, when you started getting these messages believe them
right off the bat, or did you have to kind
of warm up to the fact that this is actually happening,
it's not imagination?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
You know? I try. I think I tried to just
record them, not judge it, not judge the material.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Let I tried to just stay relaxed and open and
in tune so I could receive the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Material and.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Without prejudice, without judgment, and just record it at as
it was coming through, so perhaps I had you know,
we talked about that lingering doubt that or lack of
confidence that might creep in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
I tried to just sit with that and let it
be there and.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
Continue continue the process and get better at the process.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
And that's what led to the end one sessions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
As the communications starts, how long was it going, like,
how often was it happening.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
I would do it in moon cycles, so I would
do it twice a month. That's kind of how the
sessions came through. That was sort of a choice of
mine to do it because I wanted to be I
wanted to be and if it helped me feel in
tune with a higher existence, doing it in the moon cycles,

(01:08:28):
which had a little more those days have a little
more power to me. So that's that was sort of
the deal that was agreed upon, and so I did it.
Did it then and that was that was a nice balance.
But then in between I would take the messages that
came through and then try to transcribe them, and so

(01:08:53):
they started piling up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
They started collecting over the years.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
You know, really we're talking about the years of the pandemic,
So something that accumulated.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Over time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
And since then, how have the messages transformed?

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
They have transformed, the messages that are in the book
the N one Sessions are they were, they're very they're
like sort of the foundation bigger uh bigger picture, major
cultural clashes, school shootings, cults. This is the top this

(01:09:34):
is the subject matter a lot of the of these sessions,
the deception and interference from beings who might be a
little more malevolent as in also the myriad light races
that exist in our multiverse. So these are some of
the topics of these of these sessions in they're they're

(01:09:55):
presented in the N one Sessions as seasonal seasonal say
short seasonal essays. And since then, they've they've been since
that that foundation was laid, that that groundwork was laid
in place, they can now riff on that and expand

(01:10:15):
upon what they said originally.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
So it's kind of been a cool place right now.
What's coming through right now?

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
What kind of questions do you ask?

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
I asked?

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
First of all, I usually just let uh, let it
come through as it wants to come through, and then
I'll ask more questions. And at the end of the
UND one Sessions is a whole section devoted to Q
and a like, which was basically looking me, looking back
at the book and then say well, what what what

(01:10:48):
questions for me?

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
What do I want clarification on?

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
So I asked all of them, and then I got
to answer from the source, you know, come and common
practice with channeling, and so I want to know if
something is vague or blurry or I don't really understand it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
I want clarity.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
I want to be able to get what is coming through,
and I want it to be fluent. And it's luckily
it's always been quite fluent since the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
I don't I don't find this even though they're they're talking.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
About some abstract, higher quantum metaphysical subjects, it's I think
it's accessible. I think it's I think anyone could read
this book and sort of tune in to what is
being said. So I want I want clarity. I guess
those are the types of questions that I ask this source.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Okay, so give us an example. When you talk about clarity,
what kind of questions would you follow up on, Like
would you ask like simple questions like what's the weather
like up there? How many how many people are in
your civilization?

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
Or how many beings or how many.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
How many people are in your civilization is covered.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Also, there's a there's a chapter called about light particles.
This is one of the their main focuses of the
research and experimentation that they're doing. And so basically I
put the question for us for how does this technology
work when you extract, when you take these particles and

(01:12:25):
use them, what do you use them for? How do
you get them? And that is all described then in
the book. What what purpose do they serve? And one
of the one of the answers was, well, we're opening
a portal for transdimensional communication from your world to ours,
so that that's part of what's one of the things

(01:12:47):
that these particles can be used for.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
And this is and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
We're talking about technology that we're just beginning to understand.
You see scientists talking about particles more and more here,
but I think it just feels like we're just starting
to understand what that means in the what what potential
that phenomena has?

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Have you ever asked them if they've traveled here?

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
And the answer is yes.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
In it it is described in the end one sessions
that they're members of their contingent were here in some
form in the the early the ancient times, perhaps like
the New Stone Age or a similar time period, or

(01:13:42):
you know, a near near that time period.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
And also.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
I'm told that they do come here, not necessarily in
the physical. This is this is a this is a
little bit hard to grasps grasp. They come, they have
the ability to come there. Their bodies are here, but
they're not here. They're like holograms, and they're able to
come here and then move into our physical three D

(01:14:10):
realm two and it's mostly to sample things, to sample
natural phenomena, including light particles near power zones here on Earth.
So that's a little bit hard to wrap our brains around.
But that is something that I've also read about other

(01:14:34):
people describing extraterrestrials with having this ability to move from
the non physical into the physical and back again.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Have they ever explained to you how long they've been
coming here and visiting Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
I think they.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
I don't know if they were one of the first
group of ets to do that, but it's described in
the end one sessions that they were guests pretty much
from the start, you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Know, from the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
From the origins of our species here, and that this
the original purpose of this planet.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Was to be a.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Place where there was this this guardian.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Home species us, but that we were that we would
interact more with our with star ancestors, star beings, and
like you talked about the First nations A communicating to
you about different things. This is sort of you hear,
you know, descriptions about star ancestors from different tribes and

(01:15:48):
different indigenous people, sort of similar to that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
The beings that you are deal with, have they told
you who they are? Because when we think orian in
this field, we immediately think of the Onunaki, and many
people believe the Onnaki is one of the starters of
human life on this planet, you know. So I'm just curious,

(01:16:19):
are they on Naki or are they something different?

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
No, thea are mentioned, but that's interesting. There's a different
researchers in different experiencers have it seems like they have
different takes on who the Anonachi really are.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
I guess it just means those who came down, so
it could it could that could mean more than one race.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Actually, but if you're talking like Sitchen in sort of
that definition of it, what they describe as the Anonachi,
we're actually hybrid reptilians from from serious b who perhaps
then move into Orion.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Or moved into other places, and perhaps they have.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
A hand in what's going on in this planet right now.
Sort of there's sort of one of the real estate
brokers of a planet Earth. But this contingent, and this
is in line with the beings that I saw originally
and how they're described in the N One Sessions, is

(01:17:26):
a is a smaller group, a mixture, a mi lounge
of races. There are galactic humans, there are amphibians. There
are a few reptilians who are who are working with
the light and working with wisdom teachings, as well as
other races, some completely non physical and some who exist

(01:17:51):
more in a you know, have the ability to exist
in a physical realm.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
So there's there are really I'm told.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
I think it says in the the un Won Sessions,
a foundation of seven different races.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
So this this group is a mixed group.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Are they more humanoid? Are their humanoids involved?

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Some of them are and some of them are not,
And and one and one is more the leader is
more is humanoid?

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Do they combine themselves with other beings, say the Pleadians
or the Lyrins, or or the you know the Nephelin
from back on the day.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Yeah, they they they.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
I'm told in the sessions that they intermingle and collaborate
with Pleadians. They work very much with light beings from
serious A, and that is sort of.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
I'm told, and one's origin is serious A.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
So mostly I think the contingent is mostly made up
of beings from Orion and serious Ay. And there is
actually a picture of one of these beings from a
session from.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
A from a vision I had when I woke up
one morning, and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
It's sort of an interesting not quite like a gray,
not tall, slender, willowy white.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
It was a being at the time I had never
really seen before.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Mm hmm. Yeah. We got four minutes to go here
before we have to go to break at the bottom
of the hour. Just when I think I get on
a roll with questions with you, I look at the
clock and I'm like, darn it, we're running out of
time once again. So I do want to ask you
the fact that you have this consistent connection with the

(01:19:53):
these beings from Orion and the Sigma star system in
the Orion constellation. Do they ever just talk about the
future of humanity where we're going what they expect from us,
you know, little things like are they going to allow
us to destroy this planet? Because there's a lot of

(01:20:15):
rumors from people who have contacts saying that, you know what,
they're going to let us live our free will, but
if we ever get stupid and hit the buttons, that's
when they're going to pop in and say, yeah, we're
not going to be doing this kids.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
I get the I get the sense just from my
intuition that what you just said is true that yes,
we free will, but if we'd.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Start to because this is not if we start.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
To get to a place we're about to destroy the planet,
I believe there would be an intervention. That's just my
I don't know that, but that's just sort of my
take in my gut intuition on the whole situation.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Yes, but though this entire book, the end.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
One sessions is exactly what you just said inspiration about
how this can work. And they don't seem they don't
seem they're not freaking out too hard.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
They see this that we're they see us.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
As a species that is waking up, and they seem
excited about what's going on. They see the interference, they
see what we need to overcome.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
But they also let us know that there's.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
A lot of frequency control going on on this planet
right now. So it's not we've been given a raw
deal from the start, and it's our job, because we're
the ones who live here, to take ownership of that
and not engage with that whatever you want to call it,
that matrix, that interference, that control, that is kind of

(01:21:57):
designed to slow down or stop our our ascension.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
We have two minutes to go here. What are they
telling you about things we could do here to save
ourselves and the planet.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Then, first of all, to take they say that starting
with ourselves and being at peace with ourselves is the start,
because if we can accept ourselves, then we're not going
to abuse others, and we're not gonna there's a greater
chance that we might not abuse resources as well. So

(01:22:34):
accepting ourselves, accepting ourselves as interdimensional beings.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
As well as a big part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
And once we're there, just opening that door opens tremendous possibilities.
And then in the end one sessions, it goes on
and on from there about what is what is possible?

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Give us a little taste of that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Things like somatic awareness and in the In the append
there are ten exercises as well to move into this
more deeply and this this involves being aware of our
body mind system, of our breath, of our ability to
sort of go inside our bodies in uh heal and

(01:23:19):
to process emotion, process trauma, that we have the ability
developing our esp on a greater level. Everyone has these
psychic abilities, these intuitive natural abilities to develop this so
we can see more and see into other realms more easily,

(01:23:42):
and also the ability to easily project ourselves. I guess
you could call this astral projection. We can travel in
the cosmos without leaving our bedrooms or leaving our couches,
so we can we can experience. We don't have to
We don't really need spaceships because we can. We can

(01:24:05):
travel on the universe with our energy bodies. These are
these are big topics and in these sessions, Chris, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Gonna get you to hold on right there, because we
are going to go to break here at the bottom
of the hour. We only have thirty more minutes with
author and researcher Chris Berryman. We're going to continue the
conversation about what it's like to channel an alien being
that he calls N one the N one Session. The
book is coming out soon. We're glad Chris is here.

(01:24:37):
I totally buy this story. I totally do. And it's very,
very intriguing. You're listening to Space down Medium with your

(01:24:58):
host Dave Scott. All right, we are clear. Oh this
is a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Yeah, it's still flying by.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
I hope you're having fun.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Good. Oh yeah, this is a really vigorous conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
And I try.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
I unplugged my charger. I don't know if that helped
with that. I hear that cracking.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Now, yeah, it's when I speak, it's coming through your speaker.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Oh okay, I don't know what to do about that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
That's all right. I'm not too worried about it. Okay, okay,
but man, this is this has been awesome Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Yeah, this is what you you You asked such great like.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
You asked the gut questions that people probably are thinking.
So this is, uh, this is really different and I
really like how it's going.

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Make sure you tell your publisher I will.

Speaker 11 (01:26:03):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Yes, yeah, they should send everyone to you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
As long as they deal with our topics.

Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
We're good.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Yeah, well, and it's all paranormal. So six bucks is
that all things paranormal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
I'm having a lot of fun and you're and I'll
be honest with you, chrisy you're a good guy too.
And that's how I know you're you're telling the truth
with your story is because you're coming across extremely genuine
with with what's going on. You're not like a lot
of people.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
If I babble incoherently, please cut me off.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Uh no, But you know what, I will say this.
I've interviewed a couple thousand people in eleven years doing
this show. I'm on year eleven now, and I and
I can tell you this, man, I can see when
and tell when somebody is is completely bes or or

(01:27:03):
trying to exaggerate what's going on. Yeah, and more importantly,
our audience can see it too.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
But you're coming across extremely genuine and I know from
my personal experiences yours are are different. But there there's
a lot of strong similarities between what's happened to you
and what's happened to me. And and and I feel

(01:27:35):
a connection towards that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Yes, yes, I feel everything you said. Well, and we're
both in the in the.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
North here, I have my my family, I have Canadian
roots and also Upper Michigan roads, so it's more. But
you know, I think that we we we want we
want to communicate it in a more down to earthway.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
And that's the best way too.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Especially if you're gonna try to introduce this these topics
to people who maybe are a little bit nervous about them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
You know, it's I think.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
It's best to just just be try to be as
clear and direct as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Well, and that's and that's pretty much it, right, And
I get that from you. I I totally get that
from you, and and I appreciate that that honesty with
my audience. And I know they're loving it too, Like
I'm I. I'm reading the comments. They're they're freaking loving you,
which is good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Okay, I'm glad.

Speaker 5 (01:28:51):
This is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
We got about another minute.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Cool. I'm just gonna get some water, a go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
I like this guy, man, I do. I really like him.
And I think he's doing honest work. He's not trying
to blow sunshine up our asses. He's just telling us
what is actually happening. You know, Thank you, cat Chaser.

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(01:29:53):
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Speaker 5 (01:30:47):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
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we're glad to have our guest, Chris Berryman is here.
He's an author, researcher, experiencer, channeler. We're talking about this
really cool subject of him channeling a being from the

(01:31:30):
Orion constellation called N one and it's called the N
one Session. And Chris, we're so proud to have you
here tonight. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Oh, I'm having a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Dave, I hope so, man. And even if you're lying,
I'm okay with that, you know, because it sounds good
to the listeners. Yeah, Dave's awesome. Dave does a good show. Yeah,
just keep it up.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
The check is in the mail already.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Right before the break, you were talking about these sessions
that you were having. You do them twice a month.
Do you call for the sessions or do they call
for the sessions.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
That's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
I think it's sort of like it feels like it's
been agreed upon, but I just say, just with with.

Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
My life.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
It's just sort of like, okay, this is what I
can do. And sometimes it becomes longer. That's you know,
it's more like from I'll do the souls the autumn
equinox and then like the first moon in November. But
it's continuous and sometimes I'll do it for do one
just one day, I'll sometimes I'll do it for several

(01:32:45):
days in a row. It feels like an agreement though,
it feels like something that's been.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
That both sides of the coin are cool with.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
When you have communication, is it symbolic, emotional, telepathic or
sometimes visual?

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
When the when the communication happens, when it's coming through
it is it's sort of a it's a subconscious I
can't say that my my my body mind is involved.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
I try to.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
I relax and I put myself in a light transstate.
But it's what it feels like is that I'm it's
an active interpret it's an active translation because it's coming
through as energy. Is as energy that then turns into

(01:33:47):
words in a voice and that I just let speak
through me. But sometimes in the it happens very it's
it's crazy, it happens very fast. Sometimes in the moment,
there's an act of quick translation that I get a
feeling impression and I know what's being said, So it's

(01:34:08):
just a matter of verbalizing it. It's it's it's a
unique process that I'm still learning that I'm still a
student of. But I think that my ability is increasing
in being able to harness that and express it and
put it in put it into form, and eventually, in

(01:34:32):
in these sessions it's come into written form. So it's
been a it's been a trip, and it's been a
learning experience too.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
You have been doing this for six years now, what
have you learned about yourself going through this never ending
story of communication with an Et.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
I've learned that I guess I didn't realize some of
the defenses that I had previously, and that how I
that I've I've gone through phases of my life like

(01:35:16):
where I didn't perhaps respect myself or value myself.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
As much as I could have.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
In what these sessions and what the material has shown
me is this interconnectedness that is just part of.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Who I am, who you are, who this whole.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
This whole existence here on this realm, there's such possibility.
So it's really opened up It's opened up a new
world to me, a world that I knew existed, but.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
It's really expanded it and ramped it up.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
When you're doing this, are you doing it alone or
do you have somebody watching along with you?

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
I do it alone.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
Isn't that crazy? Some people might think that's dangerous, but
it's I just that's.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
What works for me. But I'm not really alone because
I do work.

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
I have guides, spirit guides that I work with that
I'm I've learned to work with. And they they're sort
of the the uh they serve as they coordinate the
whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
They they they I couldn't do it without them.

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
They almost like they open the portal to the connection
with the Orion beings. Yeah, so I'm not totally alone,
but I am the only I'm the only person in
the physical when they sent to when these sessions happen
in my home.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
And that doesn't scare your or cause fear.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
I think maybe at the beginning it does, but now no,
because if I feel in alignment with it and I
know how to, I do have an agreement with spirit
or in these in my my guidance that if anything
tries to move in that is not wisdom, light, consciousness,

(01:37:15):
higher awareness. That is not the source that to alert
me and will pull the plug immediately. But that's never happened.
That's it's always flowed quite nicely and quite ah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Without you know, it's it's just happened on its own.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
As this has gone on, has it increased other communication
with other beings, whether it's paranormal ghost spirits or maybe
even into the cryptid world?

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Oh something weird? Can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:37:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
I got you?

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Okay, great, I had to plug in there for a second.

Speaker 5 (01:38:03):
I am now.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
I had an awareness of that previously to a degree.
But what it has what doing these sessions and what
having this connection has given me. One of the things
that's given me is utter courage if in confronting any
presence that I might think is there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
When I think when you yeah, and I like, I'm
not gonna I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Going to try to boast too much because I want
to make sure I'm still that I'm still protected but
in in alignment. But once you've worked with the higher energy,
you get brave with any any lower energy that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Might try to come around.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
One example is like sometimes you'll see in a lot
of people talk about this, these little beings with the
red eyes who might come around.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
Have you expirit seeing those guys?

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
They're not in not in the physical like in their
their energy, their spirits.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
Have you ever seen them?

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
I've never seen the red eyes.

Speaker 8 (01:39:10):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
Well good because they can come around, but they're just
they're they're nothing, their their minions. They they exist to
get like a kick to try to frighten people. And
so if if anything like that comes around, I'm just
a get lost. You know, it's I'm I don't have
a lot of fear with doing this at this stage

(01:39:34):
of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
I don't know. Maybe I should have more, but I
just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Let's get some audience questions here. Let's go to Jaron's here,
who is asking, do you ever get sick or nauseous
when you pass through the stargate to communication?

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
No, I do not, but I think I have felt
nauseous when I you know, once I was in Sedona
and I think I was one near like one of
the lay lines or the energy lines there, and I
definitely felt nauseous there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
But when working with.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
You know, any kind of higher energy, I've learned to
ground and there is a you know, there's many grounding
techniques out there, you know, with just sort of letting
the letting the earth energy come through your feet, and
that really can dissipate any symptoms for me, at least
any symptoms, any weird sensations or blockages. I think the

(01:40:39):
grounding helps a lot with any symptoms like nausea or
dizziness or lightheadedness or instability.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Do you ever get the channeling hangover the next day?

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
Sometimes I have to rest. It's definitely not when I'm
doing it. It's again, I get the hangover, and I
have to go into the work and try to work
with it or transcribe it, or or work with it
for an extended period of time. That's when I get
the like, oh, I got to rest right now. It

(01:41:15):
usually doesn't come from the channeling itself, unless it's a
byproduct of that, I don't know. But what I when
I noticed it is when I have to take it easy,
is when I have to go in and sort of
be in it for an extended period of time.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
When I used to channel, like deep channeling, i'd get
the next day I would be it felt like and
I'm not a drinker, but it would feel like I
just absolutely sauced it up all night and then the
next day my body was just killing me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Yeah, that can that can happen.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
And I think that using some of these techniques for grounding,
And there's a in the end one session, it's a
describe in a being in a bath or a shower
or a body of water, how to clear your system
that way with water. That's a great technique that helps
to I use that a lot actually, and I actually

(01:42:12):
do that before I do a session. That lets me
be clearer and let it just let this electricity just
flow through, flow through me. One person who I think
was a phenomenal channel and I love her so much.
I love the work her books is Jane Roberts in

(01:42:34):
the SETH material And she ended up dying quite young.
But maybe that was just her time. I don't know,
maybe that was part of her contract. But there's a
possibility because some people saw her in the later period
of her life and she didn't seem well, so that
might have been like not being able to conduct, Like

(01:42:57):
there was so much electric energy coming through her from
channeling like so consistently that it maybe didn't get released
completely or it didn't she wasn't able to conduct it
in her physical body as well. I don't know that

(01:43:18):
for sure, but that might be. That's that could have
been something that happened in the you know, sort of
the mid twentieth century. We've got a lot I think
we've got a lot of tools now that can help
us with that hangover thing you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Joe is asking, has anyone ever told you anything about
the star Beetlejuice possibly going super nova? That's the shoulder
star in the Orion constellation. Our scientists say it can
happen in any moment.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
And one has not spoken to me about that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:53):
But that is a fascinating topic and I'm going to
try to look into that more.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
That would definitely affect your communication. If that happened, you think, right,
Holy cow, All right, let's go to Andromedin. Are there
snow like planets in the Orion star system? Have you
ever asked? Are there what snow like planets?

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
Snow like planets?

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
I have not heard about that, but I have heard
a description of a variety of physical and non physical territories,
So I think there's tremendous variety in that star system.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
They have not.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
Talked to me about they're mostly talking about Earth, to
be honest. They've given some descriptions of their environments, but
they're mostly talking about us.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
They're generous that way.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
What's their big intrigue with.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
Us that we cannot It's it's as perhaps a frustration
or a concern that we don't follow the herd too
much and that we must think for ourselves at this
time when there's many forces at play behind the scenes

(01:45:13):
on this planet, many forces of different cosmic sources, as
well as some interesting interactions in groups and influences here
right here on the.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Planet as well.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
So the one of the big messages is to think
for ourselves to have open dialogue that does not become volatile,
because when when when like say on the internet or
social media, when these these vicious public attacks breakout, there's

(01:45:54):
there are repercussions on an energy level. It can almost
be like the Roman colosseum or something, and that there
are entities that feed off of that that emotion, that
dark emotion, that heavy emotion that's generated. So that's one
of the things that they want to bring to our attention,
even more so, especially as the AI and the digital

(01:46:17):
technologies move in even more the is they keep expanding.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
Let's go back to Andromedin here for a second. Have
the groups ever said what will happen to this solar system?

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
They have talked. They have started to talk about how
I mean, there's possibility that everything will come to completion,
but they have talked about how we can through these
changes that are happening, and even changes, these environmental changes

(01:46:59):
that we're experiencing right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Now, how we can working with the working with the
technology that we have right now.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
How we can roll with the punches and not get
too freaked out because there's new there's new awareness that's
coming through. So any changes that might be happening in
the cosmos, in the in the climate environment, in the
climate situation of this planet that there are there, they're

(01:47:35):
kind of saying, hold on tight, because there's there are
new technologies coming through from very evolved souls here on
the planet, and to not to not panic and go
into catastrophe mode too much.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
So so not so much what you're talking about, but
something similar.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Yes, let's move on to another question. We got about
six minutes to go here. Let's go to Jules here,
who is asking do you ever record your sessions?

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
I record all of them generally, and that's the that's
the first step in the process.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
And then I.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
Try to put them because most of them have been
so far and written form either posted online or you know,
in the bugs, but there I always record into a
device first.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
That's the that's the first step of my process.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
How long do your sessions usually last?

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
They're not tremendously long.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
It seems like most of them fall in the fifteen
minute category. And so the once that's can you know
once that once you take out the gassy wording in
any repetition that might come through in the book. The
in the end one sessions they're they're short essays. They're

(01:49:04):
only about they're only between five and ten pages each,
so they're there. It's it feels like it's important, and
I think the source understands this that that uh, it's
it should be indigestible units, that this this material should

(01:49:26):
be presented in units that you can take in a
little bit at a time, And I think that's important.

Speaker 5 (01:49:35):
How do you feel about it all?

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
How do I feel about it?

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
Yeah, I feel invigorated. I feel excited about it. When
I go back and look at look at it, I'm
excited about the vibration of it, and about the possibilities
that are coming through, the possibilities for collaboration with star beings, right,

(01:50:07):
and sort of just a greater consciousness moving in, not
just through from my work, but through many people's work.
So I have a sense of excitement. It has been
a labor of love. It's been a lot of work,
and I'm excited for this to move out into the

(01:50:29):
world now and more people can be experience it and
then react to it and use it anyway they want to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Do you ever look at it like this is a
let me rephrase, Do you ever look at the fact
that there may be an end? Have they given you
an end date to this communication?

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
It feels like it's like it has come in waves.
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
I do think this is for this group. I think
that there will be an end date. I think that
I'm kind of halfway through right now, so maybe another
few years and then we'll see what happens, you know.
I think I'll know when it's completely done. I think
right now they're wanting to expand on what has been

(01:51:18):
said initially, so I have to put the put the
basic message first, and now we can go into the
nuances of it, and it's some of the material it
ricochets or chimes in with some other material out there.
But I find it to be a unique take on

(01:51:39):
even that this uh, this realm that they live in.
It's different from the the origins of some of the
other extraterrestrial or sources or extraterrestrial or spirit sources that

(01:52:00):
other people have channeled.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
I think I know with my area that I investigate,
which I call Flight twenty one, this area when they
channeled in to be last year at this time, I
literally got haunted by the location for about a month

(01:52:21):
and saying, hey, when are you coming back? When are
you coming back? And I ended up. I've never been
a researcher before. I'm an enthusiast man, I really am.
But I started a research project this year and they
immediately told me a minimum two to three years whoever
they are. So that's why I was asking if you

(01:52:43):
had had a time limited.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
Did They said two or three years minimum a total
contact or two or three years before they're going to
come back again.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Now two to three years at this location to investigate minimum?

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
Uh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, mine has been a little
longer with that than that so far, but it's been
a it's it's coming in doses though, you know, so
they time and space there. They seem to have the
patients of job, these beings. So I think if I'm

(01:53:20):
willing to receive what they have to say, and they
there's still more.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
That they want to say, it'll keep coming through.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
We'll see, Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
I know it's late for you on the East Coast,
but I want to say a big thank you for
coming on Space Out Radio tonight. Where can people find
your material, your books, your research?

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
Sure, my website is Berryman books dot com and that's
going to be getting a lot of upgrades in the
near future. And you can order the N one sessions
on Amazon or Barnes and Noble's website pretty much anywhere
books are books are sold. Pre order is open right
now and it comes out in February.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
I appreciate you coming on the show, my man. This
has been a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
And great what an interesting conversation. Thanks for having me, Dave,
not a.

Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
Problem, Chris Berryman, everybody coming up next, we have swamp Dweller.
Then the Wizard will put his point he hat on
and take us right through the UFO Report.

Speaker 9 (01:54:30):
You're listening to spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
My friend, I told you that was gonna fly.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
By it did it did? Yeah? Thanks for sticking for
uh sticking it out with me, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
This was so much fun. I really appreciated this one.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
Good good, Thanks so much, Dave. And I'll look for
that so it'll be on it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Is YouTube your main Yeah, that's the easiest, or any
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Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
I don't mind.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Okay, sounds great.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
All right, body take care, stay in touch. Chris berryman everybody.
I like him. I like him a lot. I'll be right.

Speaker 7 (01:55:31):
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Speaker 5 (01:59:45):
There, he is there, he is there, he is I
don't have a wizard hat yet.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
That's close enough, my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
But I've got to grow good hat.

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Speaker 11 (02:02:24):
Hello and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp. I'm swamp dweller,
and tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmares.

Speaker 5 (02:02:38):
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 6 (02:02:41):
Our yearly visits brought us peace, clarity, and respect for nature,
but last year's trip ended in one of the most
horrifying and distressing incidents of my entire life, one that
completely changed the way I see the world and the
way I consider the human mind. You're in, you're out.
We'd take an overnight coach up across the border, then

(02:03:04):
hike out to a place called Loch Aber. The loch
is a private fishing lake supposedly reserved for members of
a local fishing club, who ensure the waters are chalk
full of fish for them to catch, which makes it
oh so easy for us to pull a quick in
and out raid to catch enough of the smaller rough
fish for dinner. I'm serious, forty five minutes and we're

(02:03:27):
golden and take it from many fishermen. That is lightning
speed for a half decent catch. But last year we
decided we were tired of the same old digs. Instead
our gazes on a different part of the map. According
to a map that we had found, it told us
that there was a similarly deep lock about thirty miles
east known as Loch d We figured it would be

(02:03:49):
a perfect fishing spot, and we were right. Sure it
wasn't as quick fire as the Private Member's leg, but
it came with considerably less guilt. Everything was going per effect.
That was until the second night, when in the middle
of a campfire drinking session, one of my buddies jumped
out of his seat and recoiled from the fire.

Speaker 9 (02:04:09):
What the hell is that?

Speaker 6 (02:04:11):
He asked, sort of calmly at first, nothing more than
cautious confusion. Who's who, someone replies lazily. Someone moving through
the trees?

Speaker 5 (02:04:22):
Back there?

Speaker 6 (02:04:23):
He was, pointing it to the trees directly behind my back.
I actually gave a hoot of sarcastic laughter at first,
thinking he was trying to scare us, But the moment
it became obvious that he was not messing around, and
I jolt of fear went through my freaking face. I
leaped out of my seat, spun around, and shined my
torch into the darkness. You could feel the tension among

(02:04:46):
us rising as we desperately looked around for who might
have been stalking us out here. Torch beams darted across
the trees, inspecting every trunk or thicket of the bushes,
but there was nothing that we could see, no sign
of the person my friend had seen. Hello, someone called out,
immediately shushed by the rest of us. No one to

(02:05:09):
give away our position, but at the same time, we
needed to know if there was someone out there watching us,
But again there was just silence. I think you've had
a bit too much to drink, mate, I remember saying
to the guy who supposedly seen a figure walking through
the trees.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
I'm fine.

Speaker 6 (02:05:27):
I barely touched that bells I brought. I swear to god,
I saw someone just then. Like who, Someone asked, man, woman, young, old?

Speaker 5 (02:05:36):
What?

Speaker 6 (02:05:38):
I don't know, he replied, shakily. But they were big,
really big. The only big thing around here is your
bloody imagination. Mate, Now go get your head down. It's
been a long day and had thanks to the overnight coach.
No one really sleeps on the journey up to Scotland.

(02:05:58):
I mean they close, they maybe you know, get a
few minutes to sleep, listen to some chill music through
their headphones, but they never really sleep, so everyone ends
up being pretty wrecked by the end of the first night.
The next morning, we felt even worse. The first night
after such a long journey as usually one where we
sleep like the dead, but not that night. None of

(02:06:21):
us could quite relax, not with the possibility of having
someone stalking us in the back of our minds. Thank god,
we were only planning to fish that day, as we
really were not in the mood for anything else given
how bloody exhausted we were. After breakfast, we marched down
to the loch with our fishing gear. It's a gorgeous area,

(02:06:41):
a crisp blue lake ringed by hills. It's not unusual
to get some really nice sunny days up in Scotland too,
especially during the summer, but that day the sky was horrible, grimy, gray,
like the sun had barely risen at all. I was tired,
half soaked from the and barely even excited to be

(02:07:02):
fishing for my dinner. I actually hoped that something exciting
would happen, and for my sins, my wish came true. Look,
one of us shouted, over there on the other side
of the lock, Jesus Christ, can you see that thing?
It was the same lad that had seen someone or

(02:07:23):
something walking through the trees where we were terrified. One
sighting could have been his eyes playing tricks on him.
Another could possibly be a mistake. Right there, he said,
pointing just on the other side. It came out of
the trees for a moment, then disappeared again. Please tell
me you saw that, mate, Just calm down. It's probably

(02:07:43):
just I know what I saw, and we need to
get the hell out of these bloody woods right now,
he said, grabbing up his gear in a panic. I
remember him rushing off back to camp, one of the
lads following him, still trying to calm him down, but
it was impossible. He was man scared half to death
by whatever he had briefly seen. I asked the other

(02:08:05):
boys that they had seen anything. Each shook their head.
None had any idea what he was talking about, but
that didn't mean they weren't just as freaked out over
his outburst. We were supposed to stay for seven four nights,
but that second one was our last. We managed to
talk the lad who was panicking down, convincing him to
stay a few nights more at the very least. We'd

(02:08:26):
come all this way, and I wasn't about to let
us just leave because we were a wee scared of something.
But it didn't end there. In the middle of the night,
the lad had been seeing something burst out of his tent,
waking up each of us before saying.

Speaker 1 (02:08:40):
Can you hear that?

Speaker 5 (02:08:42):
There was silence?

Speaker 6 (02:08:44):
Dead silence. I mean I strained my ears trying to
hear what he could hear, but there was nothing. He
was scratching at his own ears, gritting his teeth, rucking
back and forth in a dirt. It's like this sound
was completely overwhelming him. That's the exact moment realize that
maybe something was happening, Maybe there was no monster, Maybe

(02:09:05):
it was all in his head. He was experiencing a
psychotic break and it was all in his head.

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
Thank you, Swamp Dweller for a creepy story.

Speaker 5 (02:09:15):
We love them.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
That's why we kick off our three of this show
a swampy each and every night. If you want more,
head on over to his YouTube channel. Swamp Dweler hit
subscribe ring that bell, thousands of stories there for you
to choose from. Each and every night, it's time for
the wizards.

Speaker 5 (02:09:35):
That side. If you have alls, it makes us bad as.

Speaker 1 (02:10:00):
The wizard. Josh Rutledge is back for another edition of
the UFO Report, and Josh, we always appreciate you coming
on into spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
Lan.

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
How you doing, buddy, I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:10:11):
Doing fantastic, fantastic another week of UFO activities. And also,
you know, getting closer to the holiday season. For those
that celebrate any of the holidays that occur in December.

Speaker 1 (02:10:30):
What is on your Christmas list? Disclosure? Well, you know what,
Santa Claus may not be able to deliver that one.

Speaker 5 (02:10:42):
Yeah, cromp Has probably could. So Crompus Knocked was just
just like last week, I think, so anybody who celebrates
crompas Knock be on the lookout.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
So what is on your list? Come on for real?

Speaker 5 (02:11:01):
I really just in all times of the year, I
have various projects that I'm working on, and so I
ask my family just to give either cash or Amazon
gift cards because I just like, like, right now I'm
working on taking this little gun right here, which is
a Bluetooth Wi Fi receiver or a transmitter for like

(02:11:28):
a switch, and I'm wiring it into my Madar device
so that when I get an alert, it'll notify me
on my phone. And then I'm gonna be working on
an additional an additional trigger for when that happens to
start rolling an outdoor camera so that maybe I'll catch

(02:11:51):
whatever is causing the Madar to alert. So like little
stuff like that that I'm always kind of tinkering with.
And so, yeah, cash and Amazon gift card. That's what
I asked my family for.

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
So I have instructed my family over the years, don't
ever get me a gift certificate. I am mister anti
gift certificate, man, I.

Speaker 5 (02:12:18):
Am my My wife's family was pretty firm against them
for a long time. But it you know, like I've
I've been on the receiving end of some gifts that, like,
you know, I could tell somebody put a lot of
thought into it, but also I don't know who they

(02:12:41):
were thinking about when they bought it, because it's not
something that I would wear or use or whatever. So
sometimes it's just easier to give me a gift card
and I can get what I want.

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
So I hear that. I can understand that, but I
will literally look at my family and say, you don't
love me. My sister's the queen of giving out gift cards,
and I'm like, don't ever get me one, don't ever
get me. You know you do the name draw? Oh great,
a Starbucks gift card? You know how often I go

(02:13:15):
to Starbucks? Never? Right?

Speaker 5 (02:13:18):
Yeah? But everybody goes to Amazon. Right. See that's like
I like, if you get me a Nordstrom gift card,
I'm never gonna use that. I'm gonna sell that to
my wife for the cash value. Right, but Amazon, everybody
goes to Amazon. So the other the other thing, though,
that uh I do like to receive occasionally is I

(02:13:43):
built a shelf above my I've got a couch in
my office here, and I built a shelf that runs
the full length of the back of the couch, and
I put all kinds of little like funkos, and I've
got I'm a big et like the movie Guys. I've
got a bunch of different eats characters. I got nineteen
eighties gizmo and things like that. So you know, if

(02:14:05):
somebody puts some thought into getting me like a like
a cool funk Go, Like, I've got a bunch of
Star Trek Funkos and stuff that would that would be
another thing, you know, technically not on my list. But
if somebody was like, I don't want to get him
just a gift card, they could find me a cool
Funko or something or some other kind of collectible figure
that I could display.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
That'd be cool too. So I got myself my Christmas
present already. Yeah, and that was I bought myself Guns
and Roses tickets. So being able to rock out with
my little dude at Guns n' Roses that makes me happy.

Speaker 5 (02:14:45):
When is that concert August?

Speaker 1 (02:14:48):
Okay, August in Vancouver. Now, I'm just trying to figure
out a way that I could get to Vegas the
week before and go see them in Vegas as well. Yeah, yeah,
because I'm a little bit addicted to G and R.

Speaker 5 (02:15:02):
I am.

Speaker 1 (02:15:02):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (02:15:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
It'll be time number nine for me seeing them, So
I'm pretty happy about that.

Speaker 5 (02:15:10):
So I owned it. I owned a gn R tape once. Yeah,
that's that's but I am not really a concert guy
because they are they're almost too loud. I can't actually
enjoy the music. Because it's just too freaking loud.

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
Oh So I love live concerts, love live concerts. Just
one of those things kills my ears. But I absolutely
love them, absolutely love them. All Right, let's get to
the UFO side of things. What's going on in the
world today.

Speaker 5 (02:15:44):
Yeah, so I got a few things for you. One, Uh,
it's kind of an older interview and it happened in November,
but it kind of flew under the radar. I remember
seeing it or or talking about it. But Dave Brush
was on Fox News on November twenty first this year

(02:16:06):
talking really they were like, you know, kind of talking
about the Disclosure Age to Disclosure documentary because it was
coming out, you know, that weekend, and so they had
Grush on and I thought it was really interesting when
the Fox News host introduced him, they of course introduced
him as a whistleblower, which you know, you and I
cand agree to disagree on that, but they also said

(02:16:30):
that he was an advisor to the UAP Task Force.
And that's the first time to my knowledge that Dave
Grush has been introduced as an advisor to the UAP
Task Force.

Speaker 1 (02:16:46):
Yeah. I don't recall ever hearing that.

Speaker 5 (02:16:51):
So I find that incredibly interesting because do you think
that they mean the old UAP Task Force or do
you think they mean Arrow.

Speaker 1 (02:17:08):
Well, considering he doesn't have a lot of love for
Arrow after the way he was allegedly treated by doctor
Sean Kirkpatrick, who's the former head of the program, I
don't think it would be Arrow per se. I think
it would have been the defunct UAP Task Force.

Speaker 5 (02:17:28):
Well, I mean I could see that for sure, but also,
you know, Arrow's underneath new management, and new management seems
to be taking the subject more seriously, so I don't know.
It'd be interesting. I think it potentially could benefit them
if they are treating the topics seriously, having someone like

(02:17:51):
Grush being you know, their phone a friend when they
get stuck into something.

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
Here is the anomaly of David Grush. He came out
like lightning bolts with a bunch of information that we
had never really heard before. Okay, and granted it was
secondhand information, but the stories that he was telling us
were confirmations on rumors that we had heard for years

(02:18:23):
when he came public about two almost three years ago now, okay.
Then he went absolutely silent for about a year year
and a half, and then comes out when the new
video for or the movie for the Age of Disclosure
was released on Amazon Prime. And the one thing that

(02:18:44):
I think has happened, and I'm curious your opinion on
this because it is mine, Okay, I think David Grush,
as strong as the UFO community wants to support him,
I think he could have gained a lot more trust
and faith, not only from the UFO community, but from

(02:19:09):
the entire media circus out there if he would have
kept talking. Now I realized there were personal attacks, Okay,
I'm not downplaying the personal attacks where people went after
his medical records, where they were where government officials were

(02:19:29):
allegedly calling him up on his home phone and threatening him,
threatening his wife, their careers, their their financial situation, you know,
retirement packages.

Speaker 5 (02:19:43):
Everything.

Speaker 1 (02:19:44):
We know for a time being that he couldn't speak
on anything because his top secret clearance was removed. They
did everything to beat this guy up behind the scenes
that we know of, allegedly. I have to use the
word allegedly because that's what makes it okay. So all
of a sudden, we have him just showing up because

(02:20:07):
him and his buddies are in this new movie, The
Age of Disclosure, imagine where we would be if he
kept talking, Josh.

Speaker 5 (02:20:16):
Well, and that's you know. I wondered if, because we
know that Age of Disclosure was filmed, you know, probably
around the time that he presented his testimony at the
AAP hearing, I wonder if he went silent because everything

(02:20:37):
he had to say was in that Age of Disclosure movie.
Even though even though I think in this you know,
there's a discussion that there's gonna be a part two
of Age of Disclosure, which will have even more content
in it from different people, and even more stuff from Grush.
So I wonder if it was a matter of, Hey,

(02:20:59):
I I spilled my beans to you know, Dan Farrah.
It's not my fault. He took a year and a
half to get the documentary out.

Speaker 1 (02:21:12):
But do you not think it would be a more
powerful statement if he had kept talking or continues to
keep talking, rather than dodging interviews interview requests.

Speaker 5 (02:21:25):
Yeah, I mean yes, and no, I mean so. The
one side is is that at the end of the day,
Dave Rush can only tell us what he's approved to
tell us, right, this is the whole thing of classified stuff.
So what is one of the bigger complaints that we
have of a lot of these quote unquote whistleblowers that

(02:21:49):
have come forward, it's that they keep telling us the
same information. Every new interview, every new appearance on a
TV show or whatever. It's all just the regurgitation of
the same information because they're not cleared to tell us
anything more. So if he stayed you know, in the
media eye, let's say, and did a lot of interviews

(02:22:09):
post his post his thing, and just stayed actively podcasts
and so on and so forth, I think we would
be in the same boat with him now that we
are with some of the others, and that they don't
ever share any new information, So you know, we the
community would be less likely, I think, to listen to

(02:22:32):
anything he has to say if he would have stayed
media active for the eighteen months between his testimony and now.
But now he can, you know, come out and say
the things that he's saying, and it's kind of fresh,
if you will, because in this interview he also said

(02:22:54):
that Trump and the Trump administration has been fully briefed
and he really, you know, stroke Trump's ego as being
the historical president to make a historical statement to disclose
the truth, and that Trump has everything he needs in
order to be the first president to do this. And

(02:23:16):
you know, just when I heard that part, I took
it as you know, he's really trying to stroke Trump's
ego and hopes that Trump will say, oh, yeah, I
could totally do this thing and then do it. But yeah,
I I you know, he says that in the interview,
so you know, Fox News ran with it, and everybody
is picking Daily The Daily Mail picked it up, and

(02:23:38):
a bunch of other people picked it up and said, look,
Trump knows the truth and Trump can tell us anytime
he wants. So maybe that'll prode Trump into actually telling people.
But so I feel like in that regard he's more
effective having not been publicly available for the last eighteen months.

(02:24:00):
It's almost like he's a new player on the field,
even though he you know, went into partial retirement for
eighteen months.

Speaker 1 (02:24:09):
And on that note, I'm gonna get you to hold
on right there, because the UFO Report with the man
we call the Wizard, Josh sh Rutledge is here tonight
on spaced Out Radio. We have him right till the
top of the hour.

Speaker 9 (02:24:26):
This is spaced Out Radio, and your host's name stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:24:53):
All right, We're clear buddy cu cuckoo. H good times,
very good times. Excuse me right?

Speaker 4 (02:25:28):
M hm.

Speaker 5 (02:25:32):
So I tried to make a comment in the chat,
but for some reason YouTube blocked it. I don't know why.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:25:41):
That happens every now and again, and then I get
blamed for it.

Speaker 5 (02:25:45):
Oh sorry, I was All I was trying to say
is that somebody should write a screenplay for the dat
Loft Pass incident and like as as a yettie like
a yetti encounter. Yeah, because that is a wicked that
is a wicked like tail. They did make a horror

(02:26:05):
movie about it, like in twenty thirteen called like I
think It's Devil's Past or something.

Speaker 3 (02:26:11):
But.

Speaker 5 (02:26:12):
It's done as like a it's not done as like
a yetty thing. It's just a So it would be
really interesting as.

Speaker 1 (02:26:17):
A YETI movie. I would love to see that happen.
There's so many movies I'd love to see happen.

Speaker 5 (02:26:29):
Man, I did see that. Craig Compobaso apparently got the
go ahead or funding or something, but they're moving forward
with making a full length Valiant Thor movie.

Speaker 1 (02:26:46):
That would be good, I hope. So have you ever met.

Speaker 5 (02:26:48):
Craig Yeah, I've met him on zoom, I've never met
him in person.

Speaker 1 (02:26:54):
Oh, dude, you meet the guy in person. He is
just a lovely, lovely human being.

Speaker 5 (02:27:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:27:01):
I had known, like, I had interviewed him a few
times over the years, and I got to meet him
last year at at UFO Con and he is just
one hundred times better in person. Man, Just love the man.

Speaker 5 (02:27:19):
Yeah. I went to the Muffon Symposium in twenty twenty
three that was in Denver, and he was presenting on
Valiant thor ye And did I.

Speaker 1 (02:27:30):
Not meet you there? I don't know, because I spoke
at that.

Speaker 5 (02:27:37):
You the one in Denver? Yeah, right, sorry, Oh, I know,
Like Stephan came with me and we didn't we didn't
spend our entire time at the symposium, Like, we went
up into the mountains and did some skipping chef and yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:27:56):
That's where I met the Beard of Knowledge.

Speaker 5 (02:27:59):
Yeah was there? Yeah? Yeah, so we Do you remember
Friday night of that of that symposium, a bunch of
people were reported to seeing a UFO from the hotel
that we were staying at, that everybody was staying at.
Do you remember that at all? Dude? I was at
a bar partying Okay, Well, anyways, so that happened. I
heard about it though. So the cool thing is is

(02:28:21):
that Stephan and I were up in the mountains near
Boulder right doing CE five and I caught something on
my psionics camera and it was moving towards the Denver
location or the Denver location, and so it might have
been the same thing that they later saw from the
hotel because it was around the same time. Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:28:45):
So yeah, I had heard about that UFO sighting. I
had not heard about the Uh yeah, I was. I
was out with Tim Senor and a couple of his

(02:29:09):
friends and we we had gone out to some live
band bar a couple miles away.

Speaker 5 (02:29:21):
We got just under a minute. Okay. Yeah. The guy
who had contacted us Stephan and I claiming to be
you know, Terry Wrist. Yeah, he actually gave us some
coordinates that were near boulders. That's where we were. We
were at those coordinates doing a C five and that's
when we had activity.

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with Josh Rutledge is going on right now. And Josh,
thank you so much for being here tonight. What else
you got for us?

Speaker 5 (02:31:29):
Yep. So we were talking about Arrow in the first
thirty minutes, and there are actually three new reports that
were put out on Arrow dot Mill and two of
them are unresolved. So I thought I might just kind
of cover those two really quickly. I'll start with the

(02:31:53):
one that is resolved and the wonder ors that is resolved.
You see in the video that's like line of bright
objects and they basically uh. The report says that about
twenty five seconds of video footage from an infrared sensor

(02:32:16):
aboard a US military platform in twenty twenty three, Aero
assesses with high confidence that the objects depicted in the
video are almost certainly birds. So that's the one that
they claim to have explained. They say they're birds. Now,
I will admit I watched closely, and they're sent their team.

(02:32:39):
They're sent like there appears to be a pulsating return
on the infrared, which is consistent with the flapping of wings.
I actually have a moof on report right now that
I'm investigating, which is the same thing. It shows these

(02:33:00):
kind of bright or blank lights moving across the sky.
But they also are kind of pulsating, as you would
expect for the flapping of wings, So likely that third
one is the flapping of wings. Then we've got second
on the list is the United States European Command submitted

(02:33:23):
a report to the ARROW office, and it's thirty seconds
of video footage from a commercially available cell your alert
device we're facing digital camera in twenty twenty four. The
video footage associated with its report is insufficient for ARROW
to render a determination on its subject matter. Then resolve

(02:33:45):
report contributes Arrow's historical trend analysis. So what I like
about this case is is that they can't They can't
make a determination based on the video provided, so instead
of just chalking it up as probably explainable, they leave

(02:34:05):
it as unresolved. That, in my opinion, is top notch
investigation right there, because too many other people would say,
I don't see anything or I can't tell what that is,
so they would just chalk it up to a plane
or a drone or a bug or whatever and classify

(02:34:29):
it as resolved and move on. So I like that
ARROW is keeping it open while they look for additional
data to help them determine if it's truly anomalist. Frankly,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:34:45):
Do you think, though, that you can trust Arrow that
they are giving an accurate breakdown of these encounters.

Speaker 5 (02:34:55):
I this may be a count tro visual statement, but
I like in somewhat trust and respect the new guy
who's running Arrow, and I can't remember his name off
the top of my head, but he seems to be
genuinely open to trying to solve the mystery. I keep

(02:35:25):
going back to because I think it's one of the
best interviews that I've seen from him, and I keep
going back to the interview that he did on Neil
deGrasse Tyson's YouTube show.

Speaker 3 (02:35:36):
And.

Speaker 5 (02:35:38):
You know, uh, Neil asking, he's like, what do you
do when you get a when you get a video
that somebody says is a craft that you know, hovered
over their house, but the video all that shows is
just like a light off in the distance. And the
guy's like, well, you know, all we're gonna do is
we're gonna add We're not gonna we're not going to

(02:36:01):
discount anybody's submission. We're just gonna take it. We're going
to gather additional data, as much data as we can,
and when we feel like we have enough data to
make a determination. Then we'll make a determination. If we
feel like we don't have enough data, then we'll keep
it open until we do. And I mean that along
with some other things that he said, you know about

(02:36:23):
opening up a public facing website for the general public
to submit cases to help continue to establish and build
upon Arrow's database. I think some people think that Arrow
is a psyop or something like that, and I think
under Kurtzpatrick it probably was. But it feels like this
new guy is legitimately trying to give everything a fair shake.

(02:36:48):
And just my general interpretation of his you know, of
his body language and everything in that interview with Nilda
Grosseteisen is that he's genuine. So I know a lot
of you know, intelligence people are uh, you know, trained

(02:37:09):
on how to on how to appear genuine. But what's
really funny is he's not an intelligence guy. He has
a degree in like you know, I don't remember what
it's called. It's like, uh, a quantum sound or something
like that. He's like, he has a degree and how
to figure out how to detect new ways of hearing

(02:37:30):
things and producing sound. He is he is a science
guy and he is heading up what is intended or
supposed to be a science post. So you know, I
think that the New Arrow under his leadership, as long
as he's there, is treating it with legitimate respect. John Koslowski, Yes,

(02:37:55):
thank you. You know what, here's the thing that I
look at my man. When I worked in sports radio,
I worked for my sports director at the time, who
every day was a bad day. Every day he was cranky,
he was miserable. You know, it could be you know,

(02:38:16):
ninety degrees outside and over top of him it's pouring rain.

Speaker 1 (02:38:21):
You know, just one of those people.

Speaker 5 (02:38:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:38:23):
And I hated the guy, absolutely hated working for the guy.
And I bring that up because to me, we had
the greatest job in the world. Man covered sports. I
never paid for a round of golf in ten years.
Go to any game you want with a press pass,

(02:38:45):
any event that would come to Vancouver, you know, you'd
get the media kits, you'd get a lot of really
cool things. Whether it was the old indie cars, remember
the IndyCar races, or whether it was hockey or football
or PGA tour events, the NBA when the Vancouver still
had the Grizzlies.

Speaker 5 (02:39:05):
Didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (02:39:07):
It was a great time, right and then if you
were traveling to say you were going to Seattle or wherever,
you called up their PR department, Hey, can I get
a press pass coming down? I want to do a
story down there. And you know you weren't doing a story,
but you're going there for the fun. But why not
get a press pass so you can see what the
dressing rooms were like or whatever it might be?

Speaker 5 (02:39:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:39:29):
And I bring that up because in my realm that
I am in now, same as your realm, the UFO world,
the paranormal world, having that position for Arrow would be
the cats me ow. Like literally, your job is to

(02:39:50):
go looking for high strangeness. And it's not just about UFOs.
I'm pretty sure Arrow is doing much more than just UFOs.
But that's yeah topic dajure. And you look at the
way doctor Sean Kirkpatrick handled that like he handled it
like it was he was sent to Siberia in the

(02:40:12):
middle of winter for prison, you know, and just a miserable,
miserable human being. At least that's the way he came
across and that's the reputation that has followed him, and
that's why I think he got such a bad name
over it. Never mind, the you know, the times he
was caught. I don't want to say lying, because I

(02:40:32):
hate that word, but let's say telling myths truths, like
going into a meeting with Brandon Fugle saying he never
met with Brandon Fugel, he never talked about Skinwalker Ranch
or anything, and then Fugle's like, well, here's the picture.
That's you in the picture with me presenting Skinwalker Ranch,
Like what are we doing here? You know what I'm saying.

(02:40:54):
I mean, there was a lot of things like that.
So I hope this new guy who's been in the
position since August of twenty twenty four, John Koslowski, I
hope that he finds the fun in this position, because
I'm sure it's stressful when you're dealing with the military,
you're dealing with all the alphabet agencies, you're dealing with

(02:41:14):
the FAA at every commercial pilot out there and private pilot.
I hope that they find he finds some some happiness.

Speaker 5 (02:41:24):
In that job.

Speaker 1 (02:41:25):
Man, that that you're literally working a future science that
hasn't even been discovered yet that we know.

Speaker 5 (02:41:34):
Well, that's and that's what I was saying, like, I
I think I think he finds fun in the in
the in the aspect of it being uh, you know, science,
it's science. It's a science based post. He is a scientist,
and honestly, I mean the whole his whole approach, you know,

(02:41:55):
really putting off some alvi lobe type vibes of you know,
you can't roll it out as a you know, you
can't roll out you know, et line for NHI or
any of that kind of stuff as a possible explanation.
All you can do is collect the data and evaluate
the data and and and then you know, come to

(02:42:15):
the best possible determination that you can with the data,
or keep it open until you have better data. And
that's that's really what I see from him and so,
and that's even what I see in these two reports
that that they uploaded. So and we hadn't even talked
about the other one. But you know, again, I I

(02:42:37):
get a really good vibe from him. I hope that
he stays in the post for long enough to make
a significant difference. I looked him up real quick. His
his his subject matter area is free space optics. I
don't know. He tries to explain that on that Nildergross

(02:42:58):
Tyson podcast. But he also has research in crypto mathematics,
and he invented an advanced language agnostic search engine and
served at the DOO Department of War now Special Communications
Enterprise Office. So I mean, like I said, he's a

(02:43:20):
science guy in a science post. That's the best guy
you can hope to have as the director of ARO
in my opinion. And he's a science guy in a
science post, is not who's not afraid to consider fringe
science that we may not fully understand yet.

Speaker 1 (02:43:42):
Well, let's get to the other news. What else you
got for us?

Speaker 5 (02:43:46):
All right? So this other report that's also unresolved, This
is also from the United States. European Command submitted a
report to ARRO consisting of ten minutes in thirty seven
seconds of video footage from an infrared sensor above assuming
a board a US military platform in twenty twenty four.

(02:44:08):
ARROW assesses with high confidence that the footage depicts the
presence of a physical object. The objects morphological features, performance characteristics,
and behaviors are unremarkable and do not warrant further analysis.
AERO will continue to investigate this case should further information

(02:44:29):
become available to enable a more conclusive attribution. This unresolved
report contributes to Aerow's historical and locational trend analysis. So
they've said this video is unremarkable, it does not warrant,
weren't further analysis, but they kept it as unresolved. And

(02:44:52):
the video footage I watched it, it's got some interesting
stuff in it. It is like, it's nothing, it's nothing
that I would expect to see on you know, CNN
or something like our news nation is talking about what
is this thing and why is it doing these cool
like because it is just kind of a uh, what

(02:45:14):
do they call here, an anamorphous type you know, light
or craft that's moving around in the frame. They do
have a couple of different frames and views of it
and stuff, and that's that's pretty cool. But so it's
still I think, you know, the fact that they still though,

(02:45:34):
kept it as unresolved. You know, they they see it,
they don't know what it is, they don't know how
to explain it. Keep it as unresolved. Yeah, it's it's
it's I think I think the only potential gap here
for Arrow, where I think the rest of us would

(02:45:56):
want to see is unresolved. UAP report is basically just
saying it's still a UAP, right, But they don't come
out and say this is still an unknown aerial or
anomalous phenomenon. They still just say it's just unresolved until

(02:46:20):
we figure it out. So I think that's the only
thing that probably the community might be missing in their
classification is they would like to see them say still unknown.

Speaker 1 (02:46:32):
What makes it easier for them?

Speaker 5 (02:46:34):
Right, So it's it's just keep the case open indefinitely
because they can't say still unknown. Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (02:46:49):
Do you think then that using the term still unknown
can be some sort of cover up for what they
might know what it is? That may make sense?

Speaker 5 (02:47:00):
Well, they don't use the term still unknown. They use
the term unresolved. But it's like, you know, I look
at it as like it's like a cold case right
at the police department. They've got the evidence, trail went cold.

(02:47:21):
They don't know what else to do with it. The
case stays open because it was never closed. They never
found a guilty party, so it stays open. But it
stays open and basically an unresolved state. And that's the
way I look at these unresolved VAP reports. They're open
because they haven't reached a level of evidence that allows

(02:47:45):
them to classify it as resolved, right, so they just
keep it open. So they're basically saying, we can't define
these things, so we'll just keep these cases open until
we can't. So I would look at it and say,
everything that is still unresolved is effectively a UFO case.

(02:48:09):
As an unknown we.

Speaker 1 (02:48:11):
Got about three and a half minutes to go. What
else can you speak in?

Speaker 5 (02:48:16):
Oh man, I don't. I didn't prepare anything else. I'll
hit you within a sign. Something to think about as
you go to bed tonight. Cheop of cabras popped up
in the social lore in nineteen ninety five in Puerto Rico.
Do you ever wonder if cheop of cabra reports because

(02:48:38):
they involve animal mutilations, have anything to do with the
animal mutilation cases associated with UFOs.

Speaker 1 (02:48:47):
I have thought about that tie in. I'm not sure
unless the cheop ofcabra is actually an alien species. Well,
how I wonder how many times you know, uh, animal
mutilation is tied to UFO when maybe it should be
tied to chupacabra. Just because they don't see a chup

(02:49:09):
of cabra doesn't mean it's not there. No, you're you're
very very true. One other thing we should quickly touch on.
This week is the anniversary of the Keksburg incident.

Speaker 5 (02:49:20):
Yes, tomorrow, I remember I had that on. I didn't
have it on my hard list, but I had it
on my soft list. Yes, tomorrow is Kexsburg anniversary. You
know what's generally interesting about the Kesburg event is that
I think we talked about it last time. It was
seen over like four states and one province in one province. Yeah,

(02:49:43):
of course, the incident is really more about the potential
for a crashed craft, that acorn shaped craft. Also really
interesting about that case is it supposedly had hieroglyphics etched
on the craft, which is very similar to the Rendelsham craft.

(02:50:09):
Also the Ronnie Zamora case in New Mexico, there were
you know, odd kind of shapes and things on the craft.
So you know, we put you know, tail numbers and
things on our craft. Maybe that's what it is for theirs,
you know, it's how to identify the craft or who

(02:50:31):
made it or if the warranty is still valid.

Speaker 1 (02:50:34):
Do you believe the Germans had anything to do with it.

Speaker 5 (02:50:38):
I've heard the theory that it is that die Glock
or the bell, that it was a German craft that crashed. Possibly,
although that's I think it's like what several years after
the end of World War Two. I can't remember the
exact year. Now you got me look it up sixty

(02:50:59):
five think of what it is. Yes, So I mean that's,
you know, twenty years after World War Two. Why would
Germans only twenty years later be flying their bellcraft into
Pennsylvania Unless it was crashing because they were coming back
from Mars or something. I don't know, but it's possible.

(02:51:20):
It's also possible that it was something that was commandeered
as a part of Operation paper Clip, and we were building.

Speaker 1 (02:51:27):
It and when we crashed it, you know what, As
we get ready to head out, I will say this.
In a prior conversation a couple of years ago, lou
Elizondo told me, Watch Manitoba. That's all he said to me.
Watch Manitoba. Where did the the texburg one come from?

(02:51:47):
Started in Manitoba. Shag Harbor started in Manitoba. A lot
of them starting in Manitoba. Josh, as we say good
night to the Wizard and the UFO Report and hello
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