Dec. 9/25 - Comedy & UFOs with Ed Tyll

Ed Tyll is a comedian and syndicated radio personality who's interviewed Dave Scott numerous times on WPHT 1210am in Philadelphia, on Walter M. Sterling's show, 'Sterling Every DAMN Night!' Dave reverses the who's interviewing who in this one, as he asks Ed about what would it take to become a believe in UFOs and Paranormal events. His website is www/edtyll.com

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
spaced Out Radio. Tonight. My name is Dave Scott. We're
gonna have one hell of a good show tonight. Comedian
radio entertainer Ed Till is here with us and we're
gonna talk about like literally, he knows nothing about UFOs,
he knows nothing about cryptids, knows nothing about ghosts, but
he loves these topics and we're gonna talk about them

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tonight with Ed. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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Ed Till is with us as we are going to
talk all things UFO, cryptids and everything. He's a skeptic,
he doesn't know what to think about this topic, but
we're going to have fun with him tonight. Nonetheless, I
guarantee you will at least laugh once, and if not,
it will be a hearty chortle. Then in our number three,
swamp Dweller will join us with another creepy story. Follow

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that up with Robin Haynes, who will be here for
the Q and A. So, if you're in our chat rooms,
get your questions ready for our number three. So let's
get right to it tonight. Ed Till is a veteran
comedian and nationally recognized radio host for his fearless humor,
sharp commentary, and completely unpredictable style on the air. Never
mind the fact that he has beautiful hair yet brill

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cream all over the place. We are going to get
to that in a moment. With decades of experience behind
the microphone, Eddie has built his reputation by storytelling into
a fast paced, high energy performance that keeps audiences engaged
from first word to the last until he signs off.
His work spans stands up, spans stand up comedy, talk radio, podcasting,

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and live stage appearances. He's always driven by his trademark
mix of satire, insight, and unfiltered personality. Ed continues to
entertain and provoke thought through digital broadcasting, live comedy, and
his ongoing work in independent media. Whether he's breaking down
the absurdity of everyday life or tackling controversial topics with

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humor and honesty, Ed tries to bring a unique voice
that resonates with the fans looking for something real, raw
and refreshingly unpredictable, which is why we have him on
spaced Out Radio tonight. Ed Till dot Com is his website.
Mister ed Till, Little Eddie Till. Nice to have you
on spaced Out Radio for the first time. How are

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you wonderful?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Dave? I can't tell you how happy I am to
be on the show to, as you say, talk about
something I know nothing about. Have been littered with misconceptions.
But every time that I would be hosting Walter's uh
A Sterling every night, every damn night, you and I

(05:10):
would delve into these questions. So thank you for having
me on. It's a real pleasure.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
And the reason why I wanted to bring you on
is because let's let's introduce that. So our audience may
not know who you are. They may not in your
audience listening in, may not know who I am. But
we met through the Walter M. Sterling Sterling Every damn
Night show, which is on WPHT in Philadelphia. I do

(05:36):
a nightly hit and sometimes you fill in for Walter
and just kind of hang out, and you know, we
got to talking. You've interviewed me a few times on
the show now and it's been nothing but a blast.
And I thought, you know what I told you.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
I have a life shattering, earth shattering experience that was
told to me and it was so specific, and the
person and who told it to me is so reliable.
A lifelong friend, a broadcaster who's a household name in
maybe half the country, maybe the entire country by now
very well known guy morning show, Big deal, and we

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were on my show once upon a time when he
was doing evenings, visiting on my earlier in the day show,
and out of nowhere. He describes in detail how a
space ship for want of. I mean, this sounds terrible,

(06:35):
is that? But a small spaceship flying saucer, if you will,
showed up above the car where his brother, mom's driving,
the other brother and him, all three people looking at
this thing. It centers on them, hovers. Then she doesn't stop.
It's a roadway, so she's looking and driving. It follows them,

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So the kids are now looking up the back windshield
to hold eye contact with the saucer. My friend eyeballing
the saucers all together. We're talking. Minutes are going by
and not seconds. So he says to me, Ed, I
don't know how do I know what that was? I
have no idea what it was, but whatever it was

(07:22):
happened big time. Up until then, all I had experienced
was a chuckle occasionally with art belt late at night
driving across America, and it was so entertaining a guy
would be already had gone up there, or had seen them,
or had been probed. And now it and this friend

(07:46):
of mine is still a credible individual, has not changed
an inch on the story. So I would be foolish
if I said I had no evidence. That's testimony that
you're never going to get. In my opinion, less corrupted,
that's uncorrupted testimony. Go ahead. What do you think of

(08:08):
that data?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think it's a true story. I've heard that story
before from numerous people, and you know the question is
is it is it UFO, is it alien or is
it something of an American type hidden technology that likes
to Well, I.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Always I love to go with that. That is the
safest that Lee Harvey Oswald did it, you know. I mean,
it's just you want to go with well, the government's
not going to tell me that they're testing a thing
that can follow a car, and they probably had to
let us see. You know, I think of the cars
when they develop a brand new car and they don't

(08:45):
want you to see it on the road. They put
all those patches on it, and that's it. Do you
know about this technique? It's a test car, but it's
not what you can't photograph it. Whatever it is, you
can't do. So I get this idea of you me
need to test it. But I always thought this was
the story of the original Area fifty one. This is

(09:08):
going to be the government doing something where they thought
no one would see it or it went awry. But
crossing over that other beings would be visiting is so extraordinary.
I mean, how can you not if you don't entertain
that possibility. You know, you're not playing with Galileo. You

(09:29):
got to play with the Galileo guys, right, you got
to go with I'm certain about this. Other people will
figure it out. I'm certainly not certain. Undeniable credible testimony.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
As I was told ed by a couple of different
sources who worked in alphabet agencies, and one worked at
a secret base maybe north of Las Vegas, in the
desert somewhere. Okay, we don't know what we have, and
they hide it in place in sight, because the easiest
place to hide something is right in front of your eyes,

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because you're not you know, you're not looking for it.
You're too busy looking at your phone, you're too busy
watching when your your your transportation is going to arrive
if you take public transit, or or you're too busy
worried about what's going to happen at work today, or
I got to get home to make dinner for the kids,
or I got to get the kids off to hockey
or football.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
You know, we don't talk soccer around here. I'm allergic
to it.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
So is that we know soccer allowed, soccer free zone.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, we're a soccer free zone here, but you know
it's right in front of you. And the thing is,
we're so used to recognizing what we know, we no
longer pay attention to what we don't know anymore.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
You know, we're having a conversation that I've had for
twenty five years with a good friend and a comedian buddy.
But in addition to being a comedian, Dave, he's a
math genius. He just wrote a math paper and he
worked on all the unsolvable math problems. In addition to
he does a lot of consulting. It's just a math guy,

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and he is so attuned to these alphabet agencies, what
they do, what he discovers. You know, he's not a journalist,
but he'll come across a document and he'll have the
patients to read eighty one hundred pages and it's pretty
impressive what he finds. So this idea of what we

(11:29):
think is going on, it's very tricky because I am
certainly believe in the American way of government and government
in the open. We're a republic, though we're not at
the city council there with the whole town voting on
a fire hydrant. So in order to run a big

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country like ours, you're absolutely not going to see everything
in the warehouse. And then if you want agencies that
defend you and maybe do other things, they can't let
you know things that are plain as today. You said
it before. If you want to hide, they used to
say years ago, when I was young, you go to

(12:12):
New York City, You're just going into the middle of Manhattan.
They'll never find you. You'd be in the crowd. Now
we have much better surveillance than thirty years ago. Probably
they can find you right in today's world. But the
idea of plainside height, plain side hiding been around. You know,
I agree with that theory.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You are somebody who has made a lot of money
in the entertainment industry, you know. I mean you're driving
around in Ferraris and bent Lee's and all sorts of
you know, your forty seven thousand square foot mansion in Florida.
You know that's hurricane proof. Yeah, you know, what do
you from an outsider's perspective, what do you like about

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the subjects that we cover here.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Well, there's a tendency in my lifetime in philosophy, sociology, journalism,
just across the board, driving self absorption, which exaggerates us.

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And I mentioned Galileo before, this whole thing about you
know what you're looking at out there, what you see,
the sun, the planets. I think it's keenly important to
recapture the feeling of nineteen sixty nine when I'm a
kid and I'm doing my summer project on the Moonwalk

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and I'm cutting out pictures are putting it up there,
because at that point we are thinking larger. Now we've
shrunken in so much. With the you mentioned before, the
faces pointed at the phone, it's so emblematic that we've
become naval gazing to the nth degree. So that's why

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this world is especially important and interesting. It's interesting because,
of course you have a lot of these imaginary images
from film and fiction. But in truth, whatever is out
there could be more and more important to us now
than ever before, rare earth, minerals, et cetera. So we

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should be looking at it differently. I don't think we are.
I like today, I drove my yesterday. I should San
Andro today. Also, Patrick Space Force Space is not too
far from where I'm sitting Tonice. So we're Space Force now,
so at least we're there with the military, which does

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come back to the point before there could be so
many things now that if you said to me, oh,
you know, it's a big hash hash project for the
military out of space, what am I got to say
on my couch, I'm like, all right, is it working?
Or is it the experiment work? But I would assume
they're going on all the time. So we're probably searching

(15:15):
really well for these things that are out there at
that level realizing what they would mean. I don't know
if they're going to come in front of a TV
camera and hold a news conference, but certainly if you're
sitting around with jd Vance and Haig Seth and all
these guys, and there's any hint they're going to be

(15:36):
looking for the report, what are you finding? And so
I don't think we're going to be not looking but
you and I, I don't know how long it takes
to filter around to you and I as ordinary enthusiasts.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Right, how do you think that little Eddie till would
react to having an encounter, whether it's with a UFO
or let's say you're coming out of the shower one
day and you see a shadow being walk across your bedroom.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, I hope it's hope they send a she. If
they would send a she, well works something out. But
whatever this other world is, I'm sure if they send
a dude, you know it's gonna be a proposal. It's
gonna be world domination. You know, he's gonna be like
the Emperor Ming once upon a time, And I think

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I watched Buck Rogers when I was a kid, and
they used to encounter the Emperor Ming William Shatner ran
into Ricardo Montalban. If it's dudes, it's not gonna work.
I've seen the movie. But if it really is like
some hot babe and she's got a towel for me,

(16:52):
and yet she's from another planet. But you know she
likes Miles Davis, and you know we're sitting there having
a little meal and talking about planets in the world
and that I see, you know, possibilities at least. How
does that sound to you? Do I sound like I'm
onto something?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
No, I think you're dodging the question to be blunt.
I think I thinks, oh, no.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I said, but if it's a guy, we're probably gonna
have an argument. If it's a woman, maybe we could
get along. So what do I not get it? It's
an alien? I'm naked. What are you going to do?
You're not putting an animal alien? Are you? I'm not
gonna be able to You're gonna meet a male? Well
what do you when you say alien? Do you think
in terms of male female? Or you think when you.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, no, I think more of the species because I
haven't had the lucky stars yet to run into these beautiful, tall,
blonde Nordic beings that that you know, seem to come
to everybody else but me because they only let me
up to a certain level, and then I don't get
the good looking level. If you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's not good. Let me. I got too much headroom
there right there? You go? Thanks? So you know, did
I dodge? I mean, I'd be terrified you want me
to go that way? I would still be looking to
see if there was a shot that this is a girl.
But if it's clearly not a thing, I'd be terrified.

(18:20):
But I would also I wouldn't panic if the thing
is already here, you know, like in a Mafia movie.
If they haven't shot you already, then you know what
I mean. They probably want to talk to you. If
it was an alien who was super powerful and waited
for me to get that in the shower, I guess
I'd be impressed with that, but I would try to communicate.

(18:43):
I would hope it had eyes that I could look at,
but I don't know. This is my eyes? That Does
that sound more candidate?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
It sounds more more truthful. I'll say that I'm going
to tell Walter that.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
It's never happened. So I had to give you hypothetically.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yes, Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell Walter that you
were besing on my show.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yes, you know, he's familiar with that. I'm sure i'd
yes on his show. Great deal. No, you know what,
and b yessing is good. You know. I'm so glad
you mentioned that phrase. The other day my friend got
all impatient about hanging out and shooting the breeze. Isn't
shooting the breeze the same as shooting the ball. I

(19:25):
happen to like that where it doesn't have to be
about anything, but you have an interest, you have a
complex thought. Right, It's not as welcome as it used
to be, but I welcome it, don't you When people
do it with you, I.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Think it's more comfortable, it's more real.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Thank you, Thank you. All Right, Well, now that I'm
back on track, hit me the next question.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
We have four and a half minutes ago before we
have to go to break at the bottom of the hour.
Comedian and radio host ed till Is with us tonight
on spaced out Radio Ed. You know, the one thing
that I've noticed in the Times that you've interviewed me
on st every damn night is is and I and
I can appreciate this, and and I'm going to assume
it's your not only your professionalism, but your your human

(20:10):
curiosity to it. You've never looked down on me when
we've talked about these subjects like I've I've literally had
hosts I'm not going to mention whom, okay, but I've
literally had hosts that that have filled in for Walter
that I've said, yeah, I'm not doing that with doing
it with that guy again.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Right, it's only the anti enthusiasts of the.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
World where you kind of make you feel, Oh, I
got to talk to this guy. I got to talk
to this guy. Really like I don't really want to,
so you know, so, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's probably too busy solving the world's problems and not
doing that could of jobs last time I checked. Look,
you know, I don't want to be too hard on
anyone because if they have some strong reason that it's
not articulated, it can be difficult. It can be exactly

(21:05):
as you describe it. Sometimes they're coping with it, and
in an awkward way, You and I might bear the
brunt of their coping when you would think they would
brunt themselves, right if there's a problem taking on yourself,
but they'll project it out and you and I are

(21:25):
not really what they're talking about. But in the moment
it's all pooh pooh, anything except the things they thought of.
This is sad even when it's not on the air.
I've had this at the Thanksgiving Day table, you know,
at the Christmas table over the years. What do you
do at this point in our lives? You and I

(21:47):
know so much about so many things. Right, We gather,
we digest, and then we somehow extract wisdom at a
later date. You know, Oh my god, I was thinking
about that now. It turns out so for those people
that behave that way, right, And we don't know if
that they always do, but it's kind of extreme in

(22:08):
the moment where you're like, wow, I don't even want
to talk to them again. There is a little something
there to feel bad for him because they're missing the
entire experience that we're trying to share with them. And
I've learned that's the key in life. It's not enforcing
your bleeds on someone else. It's really looking hard at

(22:31):
what somebody else where, somebody is coming from at the moment,
and they're trying to convey to you. There can be
a lot of value in there that's not a parent.
The personality that you're describing is I believe the word
eschewing all of that just you know, pushing it aside,
losing all the value and then coming up with this thin,

(22:52):
impossible contrarian thing.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
We've never had the word eschewing in eleven years on
this show, so I appreciate you adding to the vocabulary
about that. Threw it in no, but and I don't
make the comment that I did you know about you know,
the other host being bad or anything like that, because
everybody has their niche. That's the beautiful part of radio
and my topics are not everyone else's niches, you know,

(23:19):
And I get that, but you seem to have, you know,
this curiosity about it. We got about a minute Togo,
what about these subjects makes you curious?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well, you know, now you're really into That's my big
thing is curiosity. Right Like, even when I was a
teenager and we were in English class, we were in
ancient civilization. It was all about Socrates Ryan Socratic method,
and he got in big trouble because he would ask
all these tough questions and then they made him so unpopular,

(23:49):
and then he put them on trial for asking tough questions,
you know, and then all throughout history you see that
those people are the prime movers, yet they take a
lot of flack and awful outcomes. So I'll keep it
under a minute. Just answer you directly. I'm compelled to

(24:12):
join in with that. I love that asking questions that
seem to be very important. This is one of them.
You're subject matter extremely important.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Ed Tail is our guest tonight on spaced Out Radio.
We're having a good time with Ed as we get
ready for the second half hour of the show. At
his comedian He's a radio personality, right across the United States,
and of course he is more funny than many people
out there who claim to be funny. Spaced out radio

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continuous next da. All right, we're clear. We got four

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minutes and fifty seconds.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
That was a good start here.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, no, it was so much fun. I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, that's little Eddie till everybody. Hey, mister Cowley, how
you doing? Hey, fast Hemy? First off, you get a
birthday hat tip. Yeah, not everybody gets that, but you've
been here long enough, you get a birthday hat tip.
Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday,

(25:41):
fast Hemy, Happy birthday to you. Yeah, the snapping didn't
really do what wonders for me. I tried to add it,
thought it might add something, but apparently it didn't. Fast
HEMI everybody, Happy birthday, budd been delicious. How you doing,

(26:24):
hill Billy Herb? How are you tonight? Corey Cole aka
boon Dock? How you doing? My friend weird? Did you
see his camera just kind of lose all lighting? That

(26:45):
was weird. I wonder if you turn the light out,
there are the lights back on? Now? That was weird?

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Excuse me?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Adventures with Beth how are you Beth or Rooney? I'm sorry,
just talking to my audience. Hey, did you mess with
the lights?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
They went off and I put them back on.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Making sure you don't got any ghosts happening.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Right. Well, you know this is another firsthand experience. This
one is pardon me in Pittsburgh, so we could talk
about it on the show.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Let's wait. Hold on to that for about two and
a half minutes. Hold on to that for two and
a half and we'll be good. I'm really enjoying this, man,
Thank you for doing this.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Oh good, same here. Yeah, I'm having a blast. I
enjoy it. I like, look, it's a very interesting subject.
But I think you were saying this before. Part of
the attraction I think is the enthusiasm for the curiosity.
There's a lot of room for curiosity and curious people.

(28:02):
I was talking about my friend before. That's why he's
a mass genius. It's got this crazy curiosity with these
insolvable problems, and it took two of them to write
a paper just going after it. You know, it's exciting,
it's extraordinary. So this is in that realm I feel,
you know, going after really big stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
No, that's that's it's a good time. Man. I've had
you know, I've had some weird things happen in this
studio during the time. I've had shadow people show up.
I've had like little orbs flying by me. I once
like it right here, you can see the edge of
it here. I have a Canadian flag that's blocking my

(28:45):
window right. And one day there was like somebody had
a flashlight outside my window, and I silently snuck outside
and went up there to see if there was anybody there,
and there was not a soul in my area. And
when I came back into the studio the freaking light

(29:06):
was going back and forth. Again. Oh man, I've had
some man happened here.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Hundreds of miles away in no time. Yeah, oh man,
like wow, like a scrambled egg, man.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, every now and again, Like I think the last
time it happened, my audience watched an orb come flint
right here and fly like straight through the camera right.
It was kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
No, I never have any time missing. I've never had
missing time. That one kind of scares me.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
What's missing time?

Speaker 1 (29:42):
When people vanish forward?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
It jumps forward. You look up at the clock and
it's a couple.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Hours later, like your friend who had the UFO missing
or following them. A lot of times people will have
a missing time with that where they'll, you know, they'll
look at the clock, say it's happening at eight forty five.
The next thing they know, they're like seventy miles away
and it's it's like two and a half hours later.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, well, if that's happening, do you think it's possible,
within the laws of physics whatever to do the transporter thing?

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh you starting? Oh yeah, hold on, we're coming back
in like eight seconds. Super chat is open. Thank you
to everybody who's giving us a thumbs up. Don't forget
to do so if you haven't. Here we go. We're

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into the second half hour of spaced Out Radio tonight.
My name is Dave Scott. Thank you very much for
tuning us on in as our guest comedian and radio
personality Ed Till is with us here. We'll bring him
in momentarily. But first we want to remind all of
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Ed Till is our guest tonight on spaced Out Radio.

(31:29):
It's not a UFO guy. He's not a cryptid guy,
not a paranormal guy. He's a comedian. Thinks he's funny.
I think he's funny. And you know what, He's interviewed
me a number of times, so I'm literally returning the favor.
Find out what's kind of going on here in the world.
Let me ask you this, ed, how easy is it
to make fun as a comedian of these topics.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Well, all right, easy because people have or a built
in reflex that when the subject come up, they're waiting
for the joke.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
So you've got this is a lot of what they
call built in evergreens right in the category of humor.
You know, you got the space alien, you got the probe.
You know, everybody, everybody has a version of the first
time someone talked about this to Johnny Carson, merv Griffin,

(32:24):
David Letterman, fat you know, the guys. Now you everybody.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
Remembers the first time they heard such a story that
they would come down and they would go to right
away taking off your clothes and getting jiggy with you.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Like right off fact, you would think that, how about
some toenail samples. You know, now we're going right to
interstellar intercourse. You, Oh wow, this is sexy in a way.
This is this is dangerous. Like when King Kong, you know,
takes the woman. He's up there on the thing. You know,

(33:04):
what's going on? Is Kong in love? The same way
with the space aliens. Start to think when when everybody's
getting probed and they love to tell you, they can
tell you all about it, right, you say, well, you know,
was it at all mutual? So you're saying zero mutuality?

(33:25):
You know what I mean? I mean correct? So all
of that to me loads up the subject. The subject
is a winner, Dave right, right. It's all funding gabs
until you get probed, until you're getting quadraprobes. Right, the
whole team is probing you, and they got more than

(33:47):
one hand or more than one arm. Okay, so who's
going to turn this off? If I said that this
is what we're talking about tonight or this is what
we're about to show you in a documentary, people go wild.
So I feel it's a very interesting compelling subject for
that your word before a plethora of features. And by

(34:12):
the way, I dated plethora. Her sister dances a little bit,
but she makes the best conversation of the two sisters.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well, just to you know, get you a little bit
at ease ed in case you ever do get probed,
is we do have a spaced out radio shirt that
says it doesn't have to hurt. You can get Alien
lou at our store right there.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
So reassuring you know, I just have to hurt ed
during that is now, if the worst shit happen, we
would at least have a product some merch from your
show involved that, you know, with the news coverage they
would find the tube right there.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
But but you know, on a serious note, though, the
majority of people, and I've described this on the Sho
Show and a lot of people have have have, you know,
kind of said, Dave, you shouldn't speak like that. But
I'm going to okay, because a lot of people look
at those of us who have had UFO or ET
contact and we all fall under the same category. Which

(35:16):
means we we work the nighttime shift at a convenience store. Okay,
we don't have a dental plan. You know, we've never
made more than minimum wage. We believe in all sorts
of conspiracy theories that everyone is true. Usually there is
a by you around, okay, and you know you probably

(35:41):
have cousins that are married somewhere. Okay. And that's that's
really the the concept of a lot of people when
they think of alien abductions, when they think of UFOs
landing in somebody's property, you know, in mutt Lick, Kentucky
or someplace like that. Okay, But that's the image that

(36:01):
people have with little green men running around and like
you said, anal probes. They don't understand that there is
this whole giant piece of science and scientists that are
looking at this, that alien abductions has happened to lawyers,
it's happened to Walmart employees, it's happened to construction workers,
it's happened to doctors, you know. I mean, so, how

(36:22):
do you find from your perspective being outsider, how do
you find a blend from taking this from a niche
reality to where people can actually comprehend that this may
be going on and take the subject seriously.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Well, you know what you might have just described there
is what's happened in the last couple of maybe even
three or four decades. Honestly, last thirty or forty years.
Our American population has become so engaged in reporting number one,

(36:58):
just number of reports, and we're diversifying as a population
where there are just more folks in the locations that
years ago would not have had a lot of folks.
You know, urban sprawl, call it what you will, but
that periphery, I'm certain that you're dread like I do,

(37:20):
this pollution of light that we have on the perimeter
of every major city when you travel now, even when
you're in an airliner, but you could be driving up
on a big high peak and see that there's like
this radiant, ever vescent kind of thing coming out. So
this could easily make contact happen to the folks that

(37:46):
you're saying that are not like the stereotype the lawyer
who's skiing up in a lodge and he's out there
by himself all night. He can't wait to be alone
on the slopes. Right he gets there and all of
a sudden boom, He's alone this reality, you know, many
years ago many I was trained to be a lawyer,

(38:07):
and the skill of the law I would practice, I
would practice trial law is it only matters what you
can prove, and there are very strict rules on what
is proof. There are a lot of things that look
evidentiary and they are not proof. So that's the world

(38:28):
I came up. And also I love science. I wasn't
a science person, but the science that I took I
took seriously in school. My experiments, the way I wrote
them up, my data, all of that. So I think
that kind of examination that I'm describing there, and that
applies to so many other things. I think makes this

(38:49):
area that you've been in for a while, makes it
very exciting to apply that to this. So I don't
see conspiracies everywhere. I see determined inquiry from as I
describe my pal before. If they see that it's a
dead end, it doesn't hurt their ego to say, look this,

(39:13):
we're done with this, this will not work, this didn't happen.
We're going to switch to that. They don't have the
ego investment right because they got that clinical, white coat
approach which I love. That's that's the saving grace in
the last two centuries, right, is to hold yourself to
some discipline. But you have to have your horizon open.

(39:37):
You have to you have to have the intellectual honesty
to have a horizon beyond your understanding.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Right, one of the things, and you mentioned, you know,
the word proof. That's a very sensitive word in our
community because it doesn't matter whether you are having paranormal experiences,
whether you run into Bigfoot in the forest, or whether
you you're having UFO encounters. People are always saying, well,

(40:04):
why didn't you take a picture? Why didn't you grab
a photo? Because the incidents are usually so fleeting that
you don't have time, and by the time your eyes
are reading the situation and your brain finally comprehends what's
going on, it's over. It's absolutely over. And so this

(40:26):
is a real community of literally, I'm gonna say millions
of people. I don't think it's hundred thousands anymore. I
think it's millions of people who have had a paranormal, supernatural, euphological,
or cryptid experience. Right, Okay, And if you have millions
of people who are talking about this and having the

(40:50):
experience of a lifetime. You know, like I will walk
down my town and there will be people who will
be like, you really believe in this stuff, Dave, as
they know me as the ghost guy in town. I
live in a town of like twenty five hundred people. Man, okay,
and they'll be like, do you really believe in that bigfoot? Yeah?
I do. And then all of a sudden they'll pause,

(41:11):
They'll realize I'm being serious, and they'll say, can I
tell you what happened to me? What do you think
of this story? And they'll go on telling me a
story about when they were camping one night out in
the forest by one of the lakes an hour and
a half away here, and they started hearing these blood
curdling roars and they packed up their camp in the
middle of the night and got the hell out of there.

(41:34):
You'll hear those stories, and this is somebody who is
just a normal, everyday person who wants to make fun
of it because that's what society says. But deep down
they have that dark secret that they finally found somebody
who they could share it with.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
This is you put your finger right on That's exactly
I think what your show does and what started with
you and me when I'm hosting for Walter that right,
that's it. You're a gateway by for outsiders to hear
themselves telling it to someone who gets it. But there

(42:11):
is I feel bad for them again, there's a bravado
of where they don't want to own it until after
the experience with you. Then they're going home in the
car with Margaret and I'm gonna be like, you know something.
I think he's onto something with that stuff inevitably, But
you're a gateway because you know. Also, I mentioned art

(42:31):
Bell right along the legends. That was a little theatrical.
That was a little bit I don't know how much
of that was for my benefit and how much of
that was reporting, But I just feel like with you,
there's an authenticity for a subject that needs it. You
needed to talk about a sensitive subject like this. I

(42:53):
say sensitive, I mean it's intellectually sensitive to conceive of this.
So I think that's part of what your your thing
is in this field. You have the personality, you have
the accessibility. So I recall that from the first time
we spoke. In other words, I had the opposite experience
that maybe another host had. I was like oh man,

(43:15):
this is this is We're gonna have fun with this.
So but I am I'm very inquisitive. I love to
study obscure things, right for the beauty of the study
and what you discover. So this has that written all
over it.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
You know, if you could ask one question about these fields,
what what's the burning question on little Eddie Till's mind
regarding all of this?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
I think the thing would I'd been able to ask
this of them or ask of the subject.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
In general, either or we got time for both.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
So of the subject in general, I'd really like to
know if maybe the Big Bang is an oversimplification even
when they try to break it down, and maybe that
wasn't so much as the beginning as that was a

(44:16):
celestial clash, and that could have made them aware of us.
That could have been what brought them into being, could
have been what we believe brought the rest of the
world into being, because it wasn't just our Big Bang.
There was a lot more big banging going on. So

(44:38):
that would be at least for me a point of logic. Now,
what I would ask of the alien if I had
the alien, you know, if he's getting ready to probe
or something you know, we're in the waiting room. The
thing I would say, do we look harm threatening? Do

(45:01):
we look like you? I would say, we are so lost.
Believe me, we're not a threat to anything. But do
you see us as a clumsy or what do we
look like? Because I'm convinced we would make an impression
collectively and that they would stereotype us the same way

(45:22):
that we're Unfortunately right, hearing people stereotype all the time,
we don't like it. I have a feeling they will
stereotype Earth in no time because they will be much
more advanced with the perceptions, the thinking logic. Everything will
hit them quicker. I don't know. That's why both ways right.

(45:45):
It would be fascinating if the Big Bang were related
to the other worlds?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Do you think do you think, then what you've learned
through your own information, that you've learned through media, that
we are being visited by species from another planet or
another timeline.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
You know, the great logicians of the civilization love to
say that everybody loves this. You know, you can't prove
a negatived So I get how could I possibly deny
without proof that it would be impossible? And how could

(46:26):
I have proof that it's impossible. So to me it's
easy to accept the reality of its possibility. In other words,
the fact that it's possible to me is reality. How
could it not be possible? Obviously it's possible. What was
the second half of your question?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Well, just do you do you think that we have
been visited?

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Oh? Right, well, I haven't seen anything on that. You
know that the closest the aswell collection. But whatever figure
was collected off the earth that night that was out
there with the I don't have anything on that, and

(47:15):
that is the closest I've seen to that now landed.
Could they have landed a craft and taken back off.
That's probably more likely than they would crash a craft
because I don't see them making a mistake on the
way in. I think on the way in they're going
to be so stealthy because they got us pegged. They

(47:36):
know our hearing frequencies, they know every sensory dilio, so
they just tweak around it come in. You know, the
military's got something right now where they can hide an
object in plain sight. They put a thing on it,
and the way you look at it in certain light,
you don't know it's there. I think they're so ahead
of that. The other thing I think they have is

(47:56):
I think they have that super speed where if they
get seen from or a split second, all they do is,
you know, push themselves a little bit and they vanish.
So they got all of that advantage if you want
to call it that. But let's just say ability to
take a close look at us. So I don't see

(48:16):
them making mistakes. I understand what's supposed to have happened,
and I haven't given up on knowing more about that.
I'll always be open to more evidence. I don't know that.
The thing I'm always impressed is we find a lot
of the Sasquatch physicality, physical proof, and that does to
me bump up against you know, dinosaurs and things that

(48:41):
we're here such a long time ago, and how a
footprint could, by accident of nature be preserved. It had
just the right angle on the rock, and it didn't
wear away or the wind. You see all these anomalies.
So again I'm open to things that when you show
it to me, I'm like, oh my god, we can't
deny this now. So that's what I find on the

(49:04):
evidentiary side, or it's just what you said before the
difference between proof and evidence, and the proof side, what
are you going to do? It's his foot. You have
to figure out what made that foot. But you can't
deny it's a footprint or a paw or something.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
You know, we have five minutes ago before we have
to go to break at the top of the hour.
Ed Till is our guest tonight on Spaced out Radio.
If you could have your choice, then would you sooner
have an encounter with an alien? Would you sooner have
an encounter with a ghost or a bigfoot?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I guess ghost. If ghost is really going to take me?
Do you remember the TV show Topper? It was about
a ghost. It was about that two ghosts that were
friendly to the main character, and it was a great
show when I was a kid. So if ghosts include
human spirits, so my grandfather would be accessible, my parents

(50:00):
would be accessible. If that is that, I could because
that again would merge in some kind of religious, ancient,
ritualistic attempt at understanding the life beyond the physical, that
I wouldn't be ruling that out. So now a ghost
that is a strange spirit, randomly of the human race

(50:25):
or not, that's a little tougher for me, it could
be just my own limitations, right, It could just be
my own narrow thinking, and I got to step it
up a little. But the random and also the malignant
I shouldn't say the malicious ghost. I never bought that
as a kid. If there's a ghost, why would it

(50:46):
be angry? Why would it do something bad? It would
just assume, you know, say hi and how so I
don't know. That's what I think. I think in terms
of past humans, I think there's a religious outreach from
thousands of years ago. They were trying to figure it out.
And it would make sense to me that you're what

(51:07):
do they call it, don't they call it six grams
or something? Your soul is a movie?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
So so right there, that's enough for me to Those
grams could be right there. They could be floating around
and they because energy could not be created nor destroyed
when we were in science class.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Do you think it's fear though, not just for you, Ed,
but for for other people out there who maybe don't
want to tempt these topics because of religious beliefs, or
just because the idea has scared them, or they saw
the movie Fire in the Sky in nineteen ninety four.
You know, I mean just your thoughts on that I do.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
There's no question. I mean, you know, one of the
great things about an American dinner table or backyard barbecue
is there's twenty five or thirty people. They're definitely going
to be a few they're terrified of this stuff, and
they're not going to come out with it and tell
everybody that they're scaredy cats, but they really are so

(52:13):
in their household, they are the ones that with the
kids are like, oh my god, shut the door, Oh
what was that. I don't know. They exhibit this. Then
I think the normal people say, oh, you know, nothing,
things happen, and then there's people have a lot of
experience and say, well, you know, there is a little
bit of a pattern here if you take a look.
So inevitably fear, but there's all kinds of fear there.

(52:37):
There's fear that they're going to destroy the world, where
there's fear that they're smarter than us.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
But you're right, there's spear and if you get to
the Pleaadians and Nordic's better looking too.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Well, back to my original hope that if I'm going
to be probed out of the shower. It's you know,
some version of you know, just Nordic as you say,
thank you, Yeah, I'll go at Nordic.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Do you think then, and I don't know if you've
ever brought this up on your radio show, and you
might after tonight, you know, but do you think then
that that humanity in general would be ready for the
President of the United States to come up, doesn't matter
which president is, come up and say, my fellow Americans,

(53:24):
we have found out that we are not alone in
this universe and that there is an alien presence.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Well, I mean it is gonna it is kind of
funny to think of a personality like Trump having to
synthesize this announcement and instantly would make a comment that
would be hilarious. There's going to be a lot of panic.
I mean, you know, this is all the way back

(53:52):
to what's his name there, Citizen Kane with the make
believes they've landed in New Jersey or some wells. All
of the biases and stereotypes that we've touched upon would
be activated, magnified, and everybody who already was predisposed to

(54:13):
be scared would jump and run and swim. I mean,
it would be funny watching people say, look, they're here.
What are you gonna do? I mean, our electric is on,
the game is on, we're watching football, and they're here. Okay,
So that's how I would take I would look for
all right, the game is on and you know, okay,

(54:33):
all right, they're here, you know I we'll find out
what they have to what do they eat? If they eat?
You know, you know they can. If we could make
a friend, I'm not being facetious at all. We made
a friend at all, how easily I gotta wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
On the other side of that comedian radio personality, Ed
till is with us on spaced Out Radio. We're gonna
find out if Ed he's got aliens and more in
hour two.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
This is Faced Out Radio with Hopes, Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
See Mama Catherine posted on the screen. There little Eddie's
got a has aliens? Yea, mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Well I'm having a blast. I'm gonna get another beverage.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, I'm just gonna put you in the green room. Okay,
you're right back, everybody.

Speaker 8 (56:02):
Sat us.

Speaker 9 (58:05):
Us all right, I am back.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
We having fun tonight, guys. All right, let's bring back Ed.
We got about ninety seconds. Brother, got it? You have
him fun.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Having a blast. I mean, you're doing all the work.
I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Being a guest is a favorite thing of mine going
way way back, because I love being on your side.
I love asking, but I love somebody asking me questions.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Good. I'm glad you're enjoying this, my man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
You know what this is like. Honestly, I used to
love college because those professors were willing to drill down
on your idea in the moment, like, just go go
with it. And that's what I feel like this is tonight, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Just going with the flow, my man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
It is my man. I like that. Twenty five hundred people. Huh.
That was my second radio job, was twenty five hundred
people logan.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Utah, nice. I have a beautiful little studio in my
house here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
I know, man. Nice day, Cora. What do you got
going up there in the thing behind you with the
orange thing that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
It's actually rare? This my screen doesn't project it very
nice onto my camera. It's a Canadian flag in front of.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
A black cat where in the center of that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
No, that's my logo, Like, oh that's your show logo?

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Yeah, yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I got to get a better TV for that. All right,
We're coming back here in five seconds, and don't forget
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(01:01:40):
you with us. Hope you got your ten foil on.
My name is Dave Scott. I'm the captain of this
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and radio broadcaster Ed Till is with us. We'll get
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(01:02:43):
let's bring in our guests tonight. He is a comedian,
He is a radio personality, been a broadcaster for years,
has great hair. Ed Till is his name, And we're
hanging on out talking about the strange topics that he
never gets to talk about. And he's interviewed me a
number of times on WPHT twelve ten on the radio

(01:03:04):
show Stirling every damn night. So I figured it's time
to return the favor. I'm gonna be in the captain's chair,
He's gonna be on the hot seat, and we got
the jury, which is you, the audience, try to figure
out if Ed's gonna believe us or not that this
phenomenon is real.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Ed, welcome back, pleasure to be back with you guys,
and love the subject. And I'm thinking, while you were
recapping there, how long ago did I first hear about it?
Where was I when I first heard of the concept?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I was raised with the movies, So my living room,
the black and white television thirteen inch er with the
rabbit ears. That was an after school thing where a
friend of mine would know whenever these movies were on,
and you know the classics with the guy coming down,
the robot comes off and he talks to the then

(01:04:01):
everybody turns on the robot. You know these titles better
than me that these are the nineteen fifties era classic
space alien type movies. So as you know, those movies
walked a very fine line to whether the robot or
the alien was bad, and in many cases they had

(01:04:24):
great human dimension and the filmmaker was really trying to
build you know, a little understanding and maybe not so
be so primitive about it, but my take as a
kid was sent. A lot of my fellow kids were
a little scared. I mean it was, you know, it
was the fun to be scared kind of film. Oh wow,

(01:04:46):
they're coming down, They're going to get it now. I
go fowd all of that. There's a word for the day,
right with plethora and all these other good words. I
go fawed. It was a real guffaw. I was a
kind of a condescending, snotty little kid about everybody else
is buying into the film, and I'm like, oh, come on,

(01:05:07):
you know this is this isn't a real alien. This
is a film, So to me it remained an open subject.
But not because I deliberately was open minded. It was
because I couldn't buy what was on. I mean, they
were human actors with silver paint and a helmet, so

(01:05:29):
you know, I immediately didn't take the flight of fancy.
And if you would have asked me under Oath as
a ten year old, you know, do you think that's
what a space alien was? I would have said, no way,
that's a movie. That's silly. So there you go. My
foundation on the subject open. But again, I just think

(01:05:52):
the era I was born in the fifties, Okay, the
mines were wide open in nineteen sixty. I'm not trying
to say minds were virtuous, right, two different things. Who's virtuous,
but because people did a lot of bad things in
that era that are now horrible. But overall, the world

(01:06:14):
I came into as a five year old, the six
year old, the seven year old television in front of me,
watching how adults were this was open minded city man.
My dad was a Republican, my mom is a liberal,
and they got along just fine. They went to the
same church. You know, there was no it was open.
Things were wide open. Thinking even economic theory, and no,

(01:06:39):
in other words, you talking beatniks, not even hippies, talking
beatnik era where just people are throwing stuff out and
having a new spin on it. It's okay, that's okay.
They would always say live and let live. You know,
if that's if that's your true belief, that's part of America,
you should live it out. So that set me up

(01:07:01):
very well. I believe I was a very lucky resultant
kid when if I would have missed it by five
or ten years, there was maybe not that moment. I
feel music is that way culture as I caught a
moment by birth date. I also didn't qualify for Vietnam.

(01:07:22):
That's a crazy thing by one year. I mean, you know,
it was a conveyor belt. These poor guys getting eaten up, insane.
No one wanted the war, and all of a sudden
we jumped. So something about that. Also, my education was
very demanding. It wasn't the most expensive one at all,

(01:07:43):
but it was demanding. So we had nuns and we
had thick books in sixth grade that hurt your arm
to get them home and got through all of them.
And even in college, I had these priests that were
insane about this subject matter, and me and two other
kids would be into it. The other twenty seven this

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guy's a psycho. I've never taken that class again, but
there's only three of us who are like, we're going
for the ride. But this guy, he's a lunatic, but
he's smart. So that I think is very old school
what I'm describing. I mean, you know it should have
a violin, right, but it was a strong foundation for

(01:08:26):
the unknown. This is an era I'm describing where science
is revered, not handicapped like a football game. I don't
want to ask my uncle what we should be doing
with the future of anything un planet Earth. Okay, he's
going to just tell you what he wants. He's not

(01:08:48):
going to do what's right. So there was a thing
back then. NASA was magical. You know, things were happening,
Human beings were in places they had never been before.
And by the time I'm on the raid, everybody's talking
about the moon landing a stake. It didn't take long
to just go, oh, what are you kidding? So this

(01:09:09):
is what I think makes for my attitude toward what
you said before. That whole list of things he doesn't
talk about it. He's always this. Even though I don't
traffic in this, I love trafficking in this kind of study.
Study to me is very exciting, especially with other people

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who have energy for the study.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Right there is plenty of evidence right now that shows
that the United States government, the military, and the private
contractors seem to be holding on to some sort of
extraterrestrial technology and potentially even bodies. There are people who
have made claims that they have seen them, and these
are people from government officials. A lot of them came

(01:09:54):
out in the new documentary The Age of Disclosure that
was really least a couple of weeks ago. If the
American public ever picked up on this and took this
subject seriously, what do you think would happen if all
of a sudden people started waking up to the fact

(01:10:15):
that the government does have some sort of extraterrestrial secret.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
The best thing that right off the bat was it
would replace the Epstein files. The second thing is it
would once and for all right validate so much suspicion

(01:10:45):
that you could have a release of pressure that they
find I knew it all. You know again, my uncle.
I mean to be using my uncle, but he's going
to say I told you. What are you talking? You
think I didn't know that?

Speaker 6 (01:10:59):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
You guys, so everybody else knows now, huh, okay, good?
Can you pass the potatoes because I told you this
thirty five years ago at this table. So that is
important in a society like ours, an open society that
you know not to ask you a question, turn it around,
but you can understand the dilemma in what you're asking me.

(01:11:22):
But I might ask someone if they even believe I
was going to say just a second ago. It's great
to release the pressure in a society that prides itself
on consent and you know, I know what's going on,
and you're supposed to tell me. That's the bargain. In
American society, certainly First Amendment is supposed to check and

(01:11:46):
balance the government deliberately and okay, But unfortunately, my surmise
is there will always be people who will exploit reasonable doubt.
A lot of criminals, a lot of things happen in

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this world because there's not reasonable doubt to put someone
in jail, etc. It's a threshold that must be had.
So if you look at the Kennedy assassination and the
peripheral material that came out about the conspiracy. There is
a tendency in America to say, you know what, no

(01:12:27):
matter what you tell me, I don't care because I
don't believe you. So since I don't believe you, anything
you show me, even if it's real, you know, I
can't believe it because my premise is I can't believe you. Well,
I'll let you test it yourself. Yeah, but you cantaminate
it at first, you talk to the testing guy. That's

(01:12:49):
hard to overcome. There's a recreational aspect there, and there's
this sincerity of doubt there. But aside from that, I
think we're talking about the controversial edge of this subject.
Are they here? Were they?

Speaker 9 (01:13:06):
Here?

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Are they among us? All of these certain specific questions,
they're gonna flip? I believe from the way they are now,
what would you call them? Eighty five fifteen? You know,
in one hundred percent, seventy thirty would be a very
generous number. But I think in our lifetime it will flip.

(01:13:29):
I'll have a tipping point. It'll go eighty twenty, eighty eight, twelve,
once you get to ninety two eight. Now it's America,
and some people just I'm not giving in, So you're
gonna and you gotta like them, got to learn to
love them because the rest of us, honest. But that's

(01:13:50):
what I think.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
I love using this quote. Do you remember the rock
video by Van Halen right now where it was just
a bunch of quotes that were flowing on. Yeah, this one,
to me totally pertains to the UFO world. Okay, and
I'm gonna say that because I don't know if you
know this or not, but this would be a good
topic for your show one day. Sammy Hagar is an

(01:14:11):
ET contact e. He's been abducted, right and he's talked
about it and in fact, before I get I'm sidebarring
here for a second. If you listen to this, go
read the lyrics to the song Love Walks In from
their fifty one to fifty album? Was it fifty one
to fifty or oh you eight one two? Either way

(01:14:32):
one of those two albums. The song Love Walks In
is actually a tribute song to the Lady in Silver
who comes and takes him. So he got a babe, Yeah,
he got a babe. He totally got a babe. He's
a rock star though.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Oh of course, Sammy Hagar, they said, well, you know,
you better send a good looking one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Absolutely. But here's the quote that I that I often
use for the for the UFO world, for the American public.
Right now, this from the video Van Halen's song right
now says, right now, our government is doing things we
think only other countries do. Now, that could pertain to
a lot of different things. Okay, but if I use

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it in a UFO aspect, we think that you know
a lot of people even though I'm Canadian, you know
you're American, and the majority of our audience is American. Okay.
We all kind of live in this same society in
North America where we think we're actually free and that
the government is not, you know, hiding things from us.

(01:15:41):
And oh, they wouldn't do that. They wouldn't hide aliens
from us, they wouldn't hide all of this technology. Well
they are, they are. There's a there's a sad reality
to that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
I am so reluctant to say something that I know
is true. But if I told you that I have
fifty years of podcasting in my bones in my marrow,
that is saying don't say this, but this is the
place to say it. Man. I'm on spaced out radio
with you. I'm on all these places, so I'm saying it, okay,
and I say this to my close friends often. All right,

(01:16:17):
for many people, this will be a tragedy what I'm saying.
But some people are maybe going to say, you know something,
I never looked at it that way. But there's so
much evidence for what he's saying. And it's the following,
whether it's the protest in a third world country against
a dictator, whether it's a cartel shipping in the worst

(01:16:41):
horrific drug, whether it's a bank robber or a mayor
or a governor, or any rich, wealthy person whose name
we may not know. The entire spectrum of humanity, is
my point, is equally evil, terrible and a problem. And

(01:17:04):
they're going to come at us from the tippy top.
As John Lennon would say, we just had a John
Lennon death anniversary. He would go, where are we going, boys?
To the tippy top? Jump? So at the tippy tippy top, corruption, evil, murder, greed, horribleness,
at the very very bottom, greed, corruption, horribleness. So this

(01:17:28):
is very depressing to some people that we have no
way to get our arms around it, Like there's no
what are we going to do. It's going to keep
coming randomly, no matter what that is. I say, I'm
reluctant to say this because it's so condemning that it's undeniable.

(01:17:51):
So it's right here embedded in this issue on so
many levels. We're talking about the defense, and we're talking
about wealth, and we're talking talking about the people that
think that the rest of the humans are peons and
we have to have something to focus them, to keep
them happy. And so I say to people, watch what

(01:18:15):
happened at the end of Rome, and don't panic if
we're not so democratic as we like to think we are.
And I think that was your point before. You know,
we're always talking about, oh, we're free and la lah,
we do what we Let's be realistic about what we
really have and then maybe we'll value it a little

(01:18:38):
bit more and maybe we'll keep an open mind. For
the integrity of the open mind, that's how I say,
you're really you're getting deep with me, man, But I
love all this crap. This to me was what I
was interested in as a young man, and I thought
my career enabled me to delve in. But the integrity
of the open mind is it's endangered species, and you

(01:19:00):
kind of embody it. I mean, all your questions here,
it is perfect. I mean, this is the way it's
supposed to be. But you and I know this is
not the way the rest of the shows sound.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
You got that right? Ed til is our guest tonight
on spaced out Radio. We got five minutes to go
before we go to break at the bottom of the hour.
I look at it like this. I believe there are
secrets out there. I do believe that they are not
going to tell us. I do believe that any type

(01:19:32):
of disclosure movement that happens in the UFO world needs
to be catastrophic, which means that it's people like you
and me who have to raise a little hell in
order to make it happen. You know, because if we
allow the governments, and I'm focusing on the US government here, okay,

(01:19:52):
I think if we allow the government and the military
to control it, we're never going to learn the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
This is a tough call because in so many areas
like this that are vast, where the dollars to do
the job are enormous in amount, you run up against
the two basic funding sources. If you're not doing it
as a government project, then you're right at Wall Street

(01:20:23):
or you know, on the Paris Stock Exchange or the
Eastern Europeans. You're someplace where there is some big dollar
support in order to do it. So governments, I think
in this case you're correct, right, I agree with your judgment,
But the idea is who else? I mean, You've got

(01:20:46):
Elon Musk right now, which is very interesting, But the
truth is all the productive space travel, for the most part,
has been government funded. So that's tricky. This is where
you need real oversight, and it's so scarce on government

(01:21:06):
even you know, in America we elected some of these
astronauts and put them in to the Congress or whatever.
They get absorbed, they don't become a reform or they
become more like what's their establishment. So I don't know,
I don't know how you solve that, because one hundred
years ago you'd be using guys like William Randolph Hurst
and you know, DuPont and these families. Rockefellers used to

(01:21:30):
do a lot of this stuff because the enormity of
what you need day one to get moving on a project.
So that's what I wish, I wish that we could
clean up the biases and really turn it loose. But
you know you said it before. They're never going to
be candid with us on purpose. One of their things

(01:21:54):
is don't be candid with the public. That's like one
of the rules. Now. I don't believe it's malicious. I
believe they're a little deluded. Everybody assumes the worst at
the other one that they're worried about. So they're going
to assume our worst behavior if we release it, even
if one guy in a backyard does something terrible. That's

(01:22:17):
how they live. It's an impossible standard. On the other hand,
we live in the world you do. You're excellent at
extracting information that the public needs to know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Well, it's usually that time of the show when we
get into the topic of the government where I like
to put my NSA hat on and say we welcome
all the agents and agencies tuning us in tonight on
spaced out radio. Give us a call sometime, because you
know you already have the phone number. I don't need
to give it to you, but you're more than welcome

(01:22:49):
to call up for a chat. Let's talk, let's mingle,
and you know, just remember some of us like ed
here can be bought.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
You know, if you're a woman agent, I would love
to be padded down. If we're doing any extra security,
I volunteer right away. Pull me out a line as
they say. Yeah, I'm very cooperative, I'm very pliable when
you're patting me down very well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
We got about a minute ago and until we go
to break. But we'll continue with this story.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
But you never pat me down that fast. Now I
needs much more than one minute pat down. But go
on your e question.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Today is actually a big day ufology. It is the
sixtieth anniversary of the Keksburg incident, where an acorn shaped
craft crashed into Kexsburg, Pennsylvania, just outside of Pittsburgh, and

(01:23:50):
many people saw it. Many people, including civilians, ran to
the location. Police fire ran into the local because they
thought that maybe a plane had crashed, and by the
time many people started showing up, the military was already
there with a flatbed truck trying to pick it on up.

(01:24:13):
We're going to get into this story and more with
the man they call Little Eddie. Till Little Eddie. He's
six foot seven, like one hundred and twenty two pounds. Okay, yeah, God,
I wish I could be that thin. But we're gonna
have some fun with Ed. We're going to tell him
about the Kexsburg story because this subject is all new

(01:24:34):
to him. He's a comedian, he is a radio personality
across the United States. And the best part for me,
I call him a friend on spaced Out Radio. And
when Ed comes back, we're going to fill him in
on Kexsburg and we'll take it till the top of
the hour with Ed right here on spaced Out Radio.
So everybody, you just sit tight, relax because we're gonna

(01:24:56):
come right back.

Speaker 7 (01:25:09):
You're listening to Space Down with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
I'm like share, I have a bunch of ball caps
that I could wear during the show, changing my outfit. Matthew, Goodka,
thank you for kicking off the super chat tonight. The
super Chat is a wonderful way to support what we
do on this show on a nightly basis, So thank
you very very much. We got one. I thought we

(01:25:46):
were gonna get shut out tonight. That's why I stopped
that mentioning it. But thank you, Matthew. Yes, Ed is
an awesome guest. This is fun, you know. Back at
you and param Marv, thank you for posting all of
Ed's links in the chat room.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
That's a nice chair you have there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
You like this, guy, I do office depot, Get in there, man.
I looked at it, I said, this is the one. Right.
I didn't want to even buy a chair that day.
I said, I got to have this chair. My other
chair was crushed over my sudden abandonment and gave it
to a friend. But it's just comfy. It's got a

(01:26:32):
little lumbar but nothing exotic, nothing power, no gizmos, but
good support.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Yeah, thank you my closest office depot. Actually it was
like two and a half hours away. Well, I do
have a a Staples forty five minutes away.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Well I think we we might have a shot there.
If I know people, i'd stay belalthy of Yeah, anything
can happen on that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Because you like the chair, I do like the chair.
You know what. I'm only saying. I'm only mentioning it
because I need a new one. This one has started
squeaking really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
I feel you right, you'd look good in this chair.
It's a good chair for you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Well my arm rest. I don't know if you can
see this or not, but my arm rest. Actually you
can see it down here. I'm not stroking anything, okay,
but my arm rest broke on my chair. Wow. Yeah, yeah,
so that just happened, and I'm a little pissed off
about that, right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Because I would I would immediately be tempted to dispose
of the chair abruptly if it was me. Yes, I
might lack the patience in the moment. Yeah. Yeah, it's
a good man for keeping it going there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Well, I've put it in for I don't usually buy
stuff for myself at this time of year because Christmas
and everything, right, right, so I put it on my list.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Gotcha? What's that textburg you were saying we're going to
talk about Yeah, interesting. I can't wait to hear all
about this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
N It's fantastic, you know. Can we at the end
or whatever? People want to reach out to me? Plug
one one way to find me. I have the website,
but also Instagram is easy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Not a hope, dude, this is my show is of course. Yeah,
of course they call it insta ed insta.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Ed Yeah, yeah, back when I was young.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Blue Sky's how you doing, Walter Kotchebinski, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
That's a good name right there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Yeah, we call him Vaulter around here. We go Eastern European.
They in the w a v Vaulter. Wow, Vaulter, it's
time for dinner. Vaulter. Come change your.

Speaker 10 (01:29:11):
Out of my family there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Uh, Jennifer is saying I need emojis. Oh, there's okay,
Thank you, Jennifer. I had Taco Bell a couple of
weeks ago. My boy played hockey down in uh in
the town that had the Taco Bell, and I got

(01:29:37):
Taco Bell delivered home to be I forgot to share
that with you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Oh God, I love Taco Bell.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Oh yeah, what are you kidding? I think there was
only one food either one you could survive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
On right, absolutely Taco Bell. He's two and a half
hours away.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Well, I was gonna say, what do you go? You
have to take a plane.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
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into the second half of spaced Out Radio tonight. Thank
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and on Patreon in the Space Travelers Club. Ed Till
is here hanging on out with us. He's a comedian.
He is a radio personality across the United States. You
may have heard him on terrestrial radio. You remember the
terrestrial radio where you actually turned the dial, Remember that,
just turn the dial. Oh there's a station. Yeah, that's

(01:31:51):
what Ed does. That's what we do around here, and
we're talking to UFOs and everything in between. Ed, thank
you so much for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
You know, it's a real pleasure. And as you've said
this evening this morning, in some parts of the time zones,
I've had the pleasure of having you as a guest
when I host Walter Sterling's Sterling Every damn night, and
that's a special show for me. We haven't talked about that,
but I'm going to put a plug in for that

(01:32:20):
show and me. He and I are great friends many decades,
work together in a breakthrough station that he created that
endures to this moment. But I had my fiftieth on
air anniversary hosting that show to the day, the exact day.

(01:32:44):
Then I did a one man show in New York City.
I just got back from New York one man show
in New York recapping live for an audience in a theater.
Fifty years of radio and Walter is integral part of that. Again.
He brought you and me together where the chemistry should

(01:33:05):
be with every Every host should like you. I don't
know who you said, somebody, it's unimaginable to me that
they don't like having you on whether they like you,
don't like you, believe you're an interesting guy on the
air period. So Walter tends to bump into very talented people.

(01:33:25):
I'm kind of snuck in, you know. I feel, you know,
like I got lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
Yeah they did I ever tell you how Walter and
I met? You did not. Walter Sterling has turned in
to become one of my radio mentors. So a couple
of years ago, I got this email out of the
blue saying would you come on my show? Because Walter

(01:33:52):
is very short? And I said sure when, because I'm
pretty open and you know, and I checked out because
he always edged with WPHT twelve ten am, Philadelphia, you know,
and so I checked it on. Oh yeah, you know,
I'd love to speak at Philadelphia, not knowing what he

(01:34:13):
was like. And then I didn't hear from him for
weeks weeks, and then I would get a single email,
are you ready to come on? Yes? Okay? So finally
it happened and he brings me on, and then all
of a sudden about I don't know, doing a weekly
hit with him. This was before he got to, you know,

(01:34:36):
running the five day a week show. He was only
doing the Sunday Night Show, and I guess his audience
absolutely took to me. And it was funny because all
of a sudden he says to me, I'll see you
tomorrow night. We're now doing five days a week on WPHT,

(01:34:57):
I'll see you tomorrow night. Okay, So here I am here.
I am literally going like six days a week with Walter.
And I've never asked him for a thing, never asked
him for a thing. I don't get paid to do it.
I just do it because I love what I do. Right,

(01:35:18):
and his audience, the Midnight Misfits, absolutely seem to like me.
So you fit in, yeah, with.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
What he's created perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Yeah, So we talked about it. I'm a known Canadian.

Speaker 9 (01:35:36):
I like that too.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
That's a very interesting point, you know, for people listening
that are not you right there listening, you're having this
description of an experience that's very similar to music. It's
slightly indefinable. We know what we like. I mean the minute,
we could sing the songs we like, but there's an
indefinable quality if you try to figure out why you

(01:35:59):
like all these different things you have, and Walter has
a perfect pitch ear for that. There's a tone of voice,
there's a personality signature that makes it instant. And then
you went right to five days. That was seamless. I bet.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Well. The problem with Walter is I didn't know if
he was if he was liking what I was doing
or not, you know, because all of a sudden, all
of a sudden, he would cut me off and he'd
be like, I'm well, that's Dave Scott spaced out radio
and this is sterling every damn night, go to break.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
That's funny. You didn't know how the he thought, Oh
I didn't it worked or not? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well,
you know he's a pro man. So you know, when
you're on the tur with Michael Jordan and they pivot,
you don't know. Sometimes if you get in the ball,
you gotta be ready, and sometimes you don't get the ball. Fantastic,
that's you know, that's live radio. Yeah, now you talking

(01:37:00):
about for a listener, the real charm of the two
personalities and the hard cut all that. I mean. I'm
a radio guy from the beginning, from the very very
very beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
I love radio. I don't like what corporations have done
to radio.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
But now the worst thing that's missing in the world
that we have everything. That's the argument, right, Like, why
would I need radio if I have everything? I have
the news the minute I want, and I have their
weather and the minue and I want, and I have
any song the minute and I want it. And you go, yeah,
well that's not radio. Radio is not just with the

(01:37:37):
data in the news. It's the whole somebody's watching out
for me, somebody's with me, somebody's playing songs for me.
It's personal relationships. So what you don't get today is
any of that, because they've dismissed it. But that was
the magic. You were there for the person on the
other side. And honestly, even seeing is limiting because we

(01:38:00):
loved not knowing what they look like. All I wanted
was the presence of the person there, and it was
one on one. Walter says us. All the time you're
talking to one person at a time. It's not all right,
ten thousand people hello, Hello, Like it's not a rock concert.

(01:38:21):
It's the other way around. It's one person in the
car with you and you're driving alone at night. You
got a truck, you got a car, you're working late,
you got a kid who's sick. Whatever it is, it's
a one on one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
It's magical that what's your best and worst moment in radio?

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Worst moment had to be a Lenin assassination. Man, I
mean it was happened. So I'm on the air, like
just to do IDs. I don't have a show. We're
carrying some kind of a Monday night football whatever we
were carrying, and it was ABC's whatever. And it breaks
and it's like John Lennon's been shot. And I'm how old?

(01:39:00):
Twenty four? Okay, so all the DJs are older than me,
the general managers and all everybody's going wild, what's going on?
What are you doing?

Speaker 11 (01:39:08):
What's going on? I'm like, I got it. I got it,
you know, like I'm drowning in it. And before you
know what, he's dead. You know, I thought we were
gonna have the thing. They're gonna save him. He's gonna
forget it in real time. He died like a no time.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
And I was devastated personally, and sitting in front of
a fifty thousand watt blow tornch on brick all Avenue
and how to stay composed and keep it together, and
you know, my first time in any crisis, you know,
zero to John Lennon's assassination, So that was worse. Best

(01:39:45):
thing that ever happened to me in radio is easy.
I grew up idolizing a couple of dudes on the air,
and surprise, surprise, they were maniacs, all three of them.
And my mother lights one of them. So my mom
and I have this dude in common, and I started

(01:40:07):
listening and I got a phone call one day when
I'm in Atlanta. I'm in Atlanta doing my midday show,
and I think I'm cool, and you know, I'm dope,
but I'm twenty nine. I think I know everything. So
I get this call from New York and it's this
guy that I idolize as producer, and Bob's been listening

(01:40:28):
to you, and I want you to come up to
New York or will you come up and do us
some vacation filling? I said, this is a creator? Really, yes,
oh yes, you know yes? What you know what? I
don't know what to think? You know? Yes? And so
I get the call and now I go up there
and I'm doing the guy's show and it's Monday, and

(01:40:51):
I'm staying at my parents' house. That's how young I am, right,
I mean, yeah, I live in I have an apartment
in Atlanta, but I mean I'm in New York and
here I am hometown home call letters, biggest, you know,
most brash guy and I'm a squirt, you know, the
disparity of his age and maturity and me getting on.
I literally am at this point three to zero, like

(01:41:14):
an even thirty when I get to do the show.
I go on the show and I do an open
that you know, it's like al Pacino's doing the show.
You know, it's operatic. Man, I'm going insane and I finish,
go to the break and on the other side, the
whole station is staring at me and they're like clapping,
And I said, this is it? You know, like right now,

(01:41:36):
I don't even care if I sign a contract, it
doesn't matter, Like right now I delivered to my It's
like being on the Yankees and you're filling in and
you get a home run when they need it, and
everybody goes, wow, who is this going? Like that's what
was happening? They know what it was. Who is this
guy that's so apex? And what do you call Zenith

(01:41:58):
and Nadia? Now? Why did I not eventually get that show?
In ten seconds or less. The next day, the very
next day of that episode was nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
My worst day in radio happened on nine to eleven.
It was in the evening after I was in the
studio helping. We're just trying to get any sort of
material in Vancouver reaction to it. So we had found
out that on the first plane that two NHL scouts

(01:42:36):
had been on that plane that hit the first tower.
So I call up at that point the Vancouver Canucks hit.
The director of amateur Scouting, his name is Ron DeLorme,
gives me a beautiful interview for about eight minutes, and

(01:42:57):
I said at the end, I said, Ron, you know,
thank you, it's been a horrible day. Thank you very much.
And he goes, Dave, can I tell you something? I said, yeah,
He goes, I didn't know they were on the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
He did the interview without knowing it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
I broke down right there. I just I just that
that was my breaking point for that horrible day. My
best time in radio, I could say, this was probably
and it was my most awkward as well. I was
doing I was reporting and it was a hockey story

(01:43:40):
at NHL Trade deadline, and I had to tell a player.
He got traded. Wow, he didn't know the team hadn't
contacted him yet, and I told him he had been traded.
He was by one insider in the dressing room. By
what insider, Eddie gets traded, right, and interesting guy named

(01:44:05):
Steve McCarthy. Yeah. But let's I want to get into
Kexsburg UFO because it is the anniversary of Kexsbury. So
I'm going to quickly read this to you because this
is a UFO show. So I did this little write up,
well chat GPT did. I'm just going to take credit
for it because I put it in nice so on

(01:44:26):
December ninth, nineteen sixty five. Remains one of North America's
most puzzling UFO cases. It's called the Little Eddie Tilbell.
No it's not. It began with a spectacular fireball seen
streaking across the sky of the Midwest and central Canada. Now,

(01:44:46):
for my audience, I just want to add this. You
have heard me say a number of times on this
show that the province of Manitoba, which is in central Canada,
right above the Dakota's, right above Minnesota. For some reason,
there is this open gateway that the UFOs take to

(01:45:07):
get into North America and it's over the province of Manitoba. Well,
let's go to the Kesburg incident, because guess what. Witnesses
across Manitoba and then Ontario reported seeing a brilliant object
traveling at high speed, shedding sparks and changing colors as

(01:45:27):
it passed overhead of the provinces. Radar operators and observatories
tracked what appeared to be a controlled descent rather than
a simple meteor, as the object continued southeast across the
Great Lakes. Additional sightings came from Michigan and Ohio, marking
a consistent flight line toward western Pennsylvania. By the time

(01:45:51):
the glowing object reached penn state reports described it's slowing
down dramatically, something meteors do not do. Residents of Kexburg, Pennsylvania,
a small rural community south of Pittsburgh, saw the object
make a sharp turn before descending into a wooden ravine.
Moments later, a thunderous vibration shook the ground. Firefighters and

(01:46:16):
police and curious locals were already on the scene when
this happened. They rushed towards the site where they expected
to find an aircraft accident. Instead, the area was quickly
sealed off by the United States military and its personnel,
who arrived in force, raising immediate suspicion. Witnesses claim the

(01:46:38):
military recovered a large metallic object, loaded it onto a
flatbed truck, and removed it under heavy armed guards that
same night. Eyewitnessed descriptions of the craft had become the
iconic heart of the Kexburg mystery. Those who claimed to
see it described it as an object shaped like a

(01:46:58):
large acorn, roughly the size of a Volkswagen Beetle. It
appeared to have a bronze gold metallic surface, smooth yet
slightly scorched from the apparent atmospheric heating. Around the base
was a distinct band or rim featuring unusual markings, often
described as like Egyptian hieroglyphics, but it wasn't a matching

(01:47:24):
language to any known on Earth. Unlike typical rocket stages
or space debris, the craft reportedly showed no visible seams,
no joints or rivets, giving it a precise, engineered look.
The combination of the controlled flight profile from Manitoba down
through the Midwest to Pennsylvania and the structured, non meteor

(01:47:47):
like design of the object continues to fuel debate. Officials
explanations over the years have ranged from a Soviet Cosmos
ninety six satellite to a meteor or re enter debris,
though none fully matched the witness accounts or the trajectory data.
For many researchers, the Kecksburg craft remains one of the

(01:48:08):
most compelling examples of an object exhibiting both advanced aerodotical
behavior and anomalist physical characteristics. Sixty years later, the incident
retains its status as America's Roswell of the East, and
the debate over what fell in the Pennsylvania sky still continues.

(01:48:33):
One big acorn?

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
What strikes you with the acorn shape? Don't you see
something very similar to the capsules that we used to
pluck out in the very very beginning. I forget if
it was not Apollo, but there was an early program.

(01:49:00):
Nobody was in them. Then we had one guy in
there shortly and or that era of this. There might
be a thing here where this technology you think they
would retrofit to come into our dimension, And that's why
it would be similar to stuff we've seen, because you
would think that they would already be the Jetsons and

(01:49:21):
what we're describing here's kind of rudimentary.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
What do you think, Well, first off, an acorn shouldn't fly.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
No, but it's got the point in the front like
the cadisal.

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
I mean, if it's flying like a bullet, right, okay,
then yes, But if it's flying, you know, here's the
problem with it. We don't know if it had a
propulsion system.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
A lot of these UFOs don't seem to have a
propulsion system that is notable.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
Right, right, But this is where their superiority could be, right,
that they could the propellant they use could be completely evaporated,
you know, the unused portion. They could be all way ahead.
My thing is with what you're describing there. It was
quickly taken away, okay, quickly disposed and that was military

(01:50:12):
who said that picked it up under a heavy guard.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
Well, let's just say, if it's a weather balloon, you
don't bring a flat deck truck at an army of men.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
I didn't think it was a balloon. But the fact
that the military is always right on this stuff, ready
to get it to scurry away with it also makes
it to me, my way, not so random. What's happening here? Now? Yeah?
Maybe they're just a few hours ahead of the rest

(01:50:44):
of them. But whatever, it just seems like they're always
right on it and scrupulous. They never leave anything behind
by mistake. There's no human error on collection. So you know,
my buddy Kevin O'Leary on shore will always criticize somebody
who talks about their company and the next following year

(01:51:05):
and he goes, you know, you're assuming everything goes perfectly.
So if it's perfect in terms of the way it's vanished,
that does lead me to believe something's going on. If
it's all human endeavor, this case is going to crack
one day by human failure. Even someone who's trying to

(01:51:29):
keep it is going to not be perfect. So the
shape and there was two things, right, there were two
things in this. There was a shape you mentioned thought
there was another element about this that you read.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
Well, I mean it is the shape number one, but.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
Number two controlled landing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Yeah it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
Once again, yes, go on, sorry to interrupt, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
I was told by a gentleman named Louis Elizondo, who
who used to run a UFO program at the Pentagon. Yeah,
I asked him, I said, where should I be looking
in Canada? And in the in the ominous text that
he sent back, he wouldn't go into further detail. All
he said was watch Manitoba. So all of these government

(01:52:21):
satellites and defense satellites that Canada and the US has
for watching UFOs has them all presented around Manitoba, which
is the central part of.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Pop Right, they're coming over the top of the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
We don't know, we don't know. It seems like there
is a doorway, like everything has an entry point, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, And it seems like that
entry point doorway see for North America, for many of
these sightings happens in Manitoba.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
It's a massive amount of charted territory, right, mountains where
no one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Is that's British Columbia. Manitoba's very flat. But it also
it also extends into the Hudson's Bay, which is the
largest bay in the world. Right, So it is a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
So flat. Yeah, this is very interesting. Now, no one
comes up with any kind of big evidence of a craft,
does anyone ever?

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
So I've got it that hasn't happened over there yet,
but it must.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
They've seen them. There's been a crash there, but the
Americans got there before the Canadians and said we couldn't
have it on our own on our.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
Own land again, American military right on the spot.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
Absolutely, we have thirty five seconds left with you, mister
ed Till tell everybody where they can find you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
On Instagram it's at ed t y l L. Dave.
Thank you so much. This has been a great fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Look forward to the next time we have to do
this again, and next time we got to get the
legend himself, mister Walter m. Sterling on the air with us.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
It's always great. Yeah, he's always fun and I love
filling in for him, man, and I love having you on.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Yeah, anytime, my friend, anytime you want to spend some
time together, you let me know because this has been
absolutely enjoyable for me. It's a little bit different than
what we do, but I know our audience is going
to love you. Coming up next in our number three,
Swamp Dweller is going to kick things off with a
spooky story. Then Robin Haynes will be in for the
Cryptid Q and A. So get your questions ready. You're

(01:54:44):
listening to spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.
Dude that was so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
Saying that's the fastest two hours ever, ever, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
I loved it, man, Thank you, dude, thank you very much.
Spread the love, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
We'll do and we'll do this again for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Absolutely, we'll talk soon.

Speaker 10 (01:55:19):
Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
Take care, Eddie a little eddie tail everybody. I'm going
to step away. We'll be right back everyone. Hi, Robin
Haynes U.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
S s U.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
All right, I am back. We got about a minute
to go here, ARCon of j Day. Welcome this to
our chat. I set up that interview between John Ramirez

(02:00:41):
and Chris Ramsey. By the way, Amy, I did that one.
I never got credit, not that I care. All right,
thank you tonight to Eric and Jules and Matthew Goodka
for the super chat. Smokes a lot. How you doing.

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(02:01:49):
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to the swamp. Hello and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp.

Speaker 10 (02:02:53):
I'm swamp Dweller, and tonight I'm going to take you
on a mystic journey of the un sharing tales of monsters, legends,
and nightmarees.

Speaker 3 (02:03:03):
Welcome to the spaced out radio Swamp.

Speaker 10 (02:03:05):
Our yearly visits brought us peace, clarity, and respect for nature,
but last year's trip ended in one of the most
horrifying and distressing incidents of my entire life, one that
completely changed the way I see the world and the
way I consider the human mind. Ye're in, you're out.
We take an overnight coach up across the border, then

(02:03:28):
hike out to a place called locke Aber. The lock
is a private fishing lake, supposedly reserved for members of
a local fishing club, who ensure the waters are chalk
full of fish for them to catch, which makes it
oh so easy for us to pull a quick in
and out raid to catch enough of the smaller rough
fish for dinner. I'm serious, forty five minutes and we're

(02:03:51):
golden and take it. For many fishermen, that is lightning
speed for a half decent catch. But last year we
decided we were tired of the same digs. Instead our
gazes on a different part of the map. According to
a map that we had found, it told us that
there was a similarly deep lock about thirty miles east
known as Lock d. We figured it would be a

(02:04:14):
perfect fishing spot, and we were right. Sure it wasn't
as quick fire as the private Member's leg, but it
came with considerably less guilt. Everything was going perfect. That
was until the second night, when in the middle of
a campfire drinking session, one of my buddies jumped out
of his seat and recoiled from the fire.

Speaker 4 (02:04:33):
What the hell is that?

Speaker 10 (02:04:35):
He asked, sort of calmly at first, nothing more than
cautious confusion. Who's who, someone replies lazily. Someone moving through
the trees. Back there, he was pointing to get to
the trees directly behind my back. I actually gave a
hoot of sarcastic laughter at first, thinking he was trying
to scare us, But the moment it became obvious that

(02:04:58):
he was not messing around, and a jolt of fear
went through my freaking face. I leaped out of my seat,
spun around, and shined my torch.

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
Into the darkness.

Speaker 10 (02:05:09):
You could feel the tension among us rising as we
desperately looked around for who might have been stalking us
out here. Torch beams darted across the trees, inspecting every
trunk or thicket of the bushes, but there was nothing
that we could see, no sign of the person my
front had seen. Hello, someone called out, immediately shushed by

(02:05:31):
the rest of us. No one to give away our position.
But at the same time we needed to know if
there was someone out there watching us, But again there
was just silence. I think you've had a bit too
much to drink, mate, I remember saying to the guy
who supposedly seen a figure walking through the trees.

Speaker 1 (02:05:51):
I'm fine.

Speaker 10 (02:05:52):
I barely touched that bells I brought. I swear to god,
I saw someone just then. Like who, someone asked, man, woman, young, old?
What I don't know, he replied shakily. But they were big,
really big. The only big thing around here is your
bloody imagination.

Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
Mate.

Speaker 10 (02:06:12):
Now go get your head down. It's been a long
day and a had thanks to the overnight coach. No
one really sleeps on the journey up to Scotland. I
mean they close their eyes, maybe, you know, get a
few minutes to sleep, listen to some chill music through
their headphones, but they never really sleep, so everyone ends

(02:06:32):
up being pretty wrecked by the end of the first night.
The next morning, we felt even worse. The first night
after such a long journey as usually one where we
sleep like the dead, but not that night. None of
us could quite relax, not with the possibility of having
someone stalking us in the back of our minds. Thank
god we were only planning to fish that day, as

(02:06:54):
we really were not in the mood for anything else,
given how bloody exhausted we were. After breakfast, we marched
down to the loch with our fishing gear. It is
a gorgeous area, a crisp blue lake ringed by hills.
It's not unusual to get some really nice sunny days
up in Scotland too, especially during the summer, but that

(02:07:15):
day the sky was horrible, grimy, gray, like the sun
had barely risen at all. I was tired, half soaked
from the drizzle, and barely even excited to be fishing
for my dinner. I actually hoped that something exciting would happen,
and for my sins, my wish came true. Look, one

(02:07:38):
of us shouted over there on the other side of
the loch, Jesus Christ, can you see that thing? It
was the same lad that had seen some one or
something walking through the trees where we were terrified. One
sighting could have been his eyes playing tricks on him.
Another couldn't possibly be a mistake. Right there, he said,

(02:07:59):
pointing just on the other side. It came out of
the trees for a moment, then disappeared again. Please tell
me you saw that, mate, Just calm down. It's probably
just I know what I saw, and we need to
get the hell out of these bloody woods right now,
he said, grabbing up his gear in a panic. I
remember him rushing off back to camp, one of the

(02:08:19):
lads following him, still trying to calm him down, but
it was impossible. He was manic, scared half to death
by whatever he had briefly seen. I asked the other
boys if they had seen anything. Each shook their head.
None had any idea what he was talking about, but
that didn't mean they weren't just as freaked out over
his outburst. We were supposed to stay for seven four nights,

(02:08:41):
but that second one was our last. We managed to
talk the lad who was panicking down, convincing him to
stay a few nights more.

Speaker 3 (02:08:48):
At the very least, we'd.

Speaker 10 (02:08:50):
Come all this way, and I wasn't about to let
us just leave because we were a wee scared of something.
But it didn't end there in the middle of the night.
The lad had been seeing something burst out of his tent,
waking up each of us before saying, can you hear that?

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
There was silence? Dead silence.

Speaker 10 (02:09:09):
I mean I strained my ears trying to hear what
he could hear, but there was nothing. He was scratching
at his own ears, gritting his teeth, rocking back and
forth in the dirt. It's like this sound was completely
overwhelming him. That's the exact moment I realized that maybe
something was happening, Maybe there was no monster, Maybe it

(02:09:30):
was all in his head. He was experiencing a psychotic
break and it was all in his head.

Speaker 1 (02:09:40):
Thank you swamp Dweller for another creepy story. If you
want more just like that, you can head on over
to YouTube type in swamp Dweller. H'd subscribe ring that
bell as he literally has thousands of stories there for
you to choose from each and every night. Now let's
move on to Robin Haynes and the Cryptid Q and a.

Speaker 7 (02:10:07):
Love mop Soft where the sawtrees swaying get he has
Bigfoot whisper of.

Speaker 3 (02:10:13):
The wall saying through the of the forest, where the.

Speaker 10 (02:10:19):
Big foot psychic talks to Sasquatch every day only on
Stacett Radio, Scryptic Quan Day.

Speaker 1 (02:10:32):
Robin Haynes is returning once excuse me once again for
the Cryptid Q and A. Oh my goodness, I had
a hiccup there for a second. That caught me off guard.
Caught me off guard. You know, how you doing.

Speaker 4 (02:10:48):
I'm good. It's good to see you.

Speaker 1 (02:10:51):
It is good to see you, as it always is.
Have you been.

Speaker 4 (02:10:55):
I'm doing good. Good. It's been crazy lately, but it's it's.

Speaker 1 (02:10:59):
A good crazy how because I can't see your life
getting crazier.

Speaker 4 (02:11:05):
It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 12 (02:11:06):
Like every time you think it's not going to get weirder,
either something more paranormal will happen or something else will
go on. I've been business wise, it's been you know,
with this big shift, it's kind of triggered everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:11:18):
So I've been busy with that.

Speaker 12 (02:11:20):
And of course the cryptids are their own brand of craziness.
You know, the UFOs are out in full force, and.

Speaker 4 (02:11:26):
It just doesn't. It doesn't let up. It just doesn't.
I'm glad. I'm not complaining. I would be miserable if
it did.

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
I want to ask you a little bit outside of
the cryptids. You were also a very talented intuitive that
people gravitate to. What it comes to looking for psychic
readings or something along those lines. What is the difference

(02:11:57):
for you when you are doing a reading, say for
a human rather than try to communicate with these cryptid beings.

Speaker 4 (02:12:08):
Well, when I work.

Speaker 12 (02:12:08):
With the Sasquatch or any of the cryptives as far
as that goes, or even animals, because they're all intuitive,
you can mind speak with all of them. I'm focusing
on that. It's your intent, it's what you want to do.
When I do a reading for somebody, I read their energy,
I read their frequency, and I'm tuned into them, and
then it goes through the collective consciousness. Like if I'm

(02:12:30):
going to talk to one of the Sasquatch for somebody,
which I give a lot of people that will get
hold me and say hey, can you talk to my
guys this or this, I go into the collective consciousness.
So when I'm doing this, that's not psychic, that's talking.
That's communication. That's you know, verbally back and forth from them,
not verbally, but you.

Speaker 4 (02:12:48):
Know through the mind speaker.

Speaker 12 (02:12:49):
Is when I'm talking and doing a reading on somebody. Yes,
I'm tapped into their consciousness, I'm tapped into their frequency
and energy. But it's about them, it's about getting the
information that I do.

Speaker 4 (02:13:01):
It just comes to me.

Speaker 12 (02:13:03):
I mean, I don't claim to be an expert on anything,
but I have a really good track record of zeroing
in on people being able to get the information that
they've asked. And they're always, you know, like, how do
you know this? I just tap into you, I tap
into that individual person and it just comes.

Speaker 1 (02:13:21):
You prefer reading people or do you prefer reading? The
cryptids are supernatural?

Speaker 3 (02:13:27):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (02:13:27):
It varies, it ends up turning.

Speaker 12 (02:13:30):
It's so funny because, like when I'm working with a client,
if I'm tapped into the cryptids for them, the rest
of it sometimes just pulls in and like in the
middle of a reading and I'm talking to the cryptids,
I'll be like, oh my gosh, what about this, this
and this with you?

Speaker 4 (02:13:43):
And they're like, how did you know that? It just
comes to me.

Speaker 12 (02:13:47):
You know, I think I'm so used to talking with
the cryptids. It's just like an automatic thing. That's just
part of my normal day, that's part of my normal life.
So when I'm working with somebody want on one. Psychically,
it is a little bit different. It's still easy to
do for me, but it's it is different. I'm used

(02:14:09):
to dealing with the cryptis more than I do the other.
I do get a lot of psychic ingredients and people pick,
you know, get hold me over from my website, whether
it's to talk to a loved one or a lot
right now seems to be going on, you know, where
am I supposed to be in my life? And when
I talk to them, it just it triggers it, and
I just automatically I get things intuitively about them and

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what's going on in their life and where they're headed
and that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (02:14:34):
But I think, you know, I.

Speaker 12 (02:14:35):
Enjoy the cryptied work, not that I don't enjoy the other,
but I do enjoy the cryptid work because I get
a dialogue with them and I'm talking to them and
we're going back and forth and they're teaching me things
and I'm learning about them. And then the people that
I work with client base wise that want me to
talk to the ones in their area, I'll be like, Okay,

(02:14:56):
they're talking to me about this that's gone on in
your backyard or this or this or this, and they're like,
oh my gosh, absolutely right. So that's always kind of fun.
It's just a different, you know, different vibe about it.
But I am partial, you know, to the cryptos because
those are kind of where my heart's at. But I
definitely don't mind the psychic part.

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
Have you ever had a situation when you were doing
a reading for someone and all of a sudden you're like,
I can't read you, Like, maybe something came through that
you didn't really want to to deal with or to.

(02:15:36):
Maybe it was bad juju or maybe just bad energy
or something dark that was you know, basically saying stick away,
stay away from this person. Have you ever had that happen?

Speaker 4 (02:15:48):
No, not really.

Speaker 12 (02:15:49):
I have gotten different things that have come in that's
more of a negative energy. I know how to use
my own frequency and energy as a protective and I
know how to handle it, you know, when things like
that go on.

Speaker 4 (02:16:02):
Have I ever had anything bad come in?

Speaker 9 (02:16:04):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:16:04):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 12 (02:16:05):
I mean I was working with one person and there
was a lot of dark things that were in that
person's background and things started to come in. But I
do know how to handle it when they do. And
then I also when I work with somebody, I will
do an energy bubble over the top of them so
that if anything comes in, they are protected at all times.

(02:16:25):
I'm kind of like the safety police. It's like when
I teach my frequency and energy classes. If you're going
to learn mind speak for me, if you're going to
work with the frequencies and energies, it is an absolute must.
You're going to learn energy signatures because your life could
depend on it, so that you know what you're dealing with.
Everything has an energy signature, just like a thumbprint. You
need to be able to tell if whatever you're talking

(02:16:46):
to is good energy or dark energy. You need to
be able to know if it's something that you've been
talking to, if it's familiar, or if it's something that
comes in lies. So I try to be like I
tell everybody, I'm the safety police.

Speaker 4 (02:17:00):
Everybody's mom. I do safety police things, you know.

Speaker 12 (02:17:03):
I also do frequency and energy clearings and homes. I
can do it remotely where it changes the frequency and
energy within your home to make it more comfortable, more
like a fresh and up type thing.

Speaker 4 (02:17:14):
If there is anything dark in there, I remove it.

Speaker 12 (02:17:18):
When I do that again, everybody's energy bubble before I
do anything because I'm really into the safety aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (02:17:26):
Have you ever had a situation where you're reading someone
in their own spirit guides say Okay, that's enough, no
more with this person, I haven't.

Speaker 4 (02:17:36):
They seem to be really open.

Speaker 12 (02:17:39):
There's sometimes that I'll go into a reading on somebody
and I'm actually a little bit nervous because like nothing
is coming and it usually takes less than fifteen seconds,
and something always starts coming in and then it's just
like on a roll from there, you know. I mean,
I always want everybody to be happy and satisfied, but

(02:17:59):
I also want it to be accurate. I am very
careful with what I say and what I don't say,
because I want to make sure that it's accurate and
it's for them. It's like when I do the schedule
for the day out, I will only put a few
people on in a day. I don't want bleedover from
other people. I want everybody's reading to be crisp and
clear and direct directly on them. I don't want any

(02:18:23):
bleedover from other sessions. So I space my sessions out
quite a bit just to make sure that what I
get is accurate and specific for that person because I
always start out reading the energies and frequencies and that's
when everything else comes in.

Speaker 4 (02:18:38):
You know. I was working with somebody.

Speaker 12 (02:18:40):
A few weeks ago and we did a psychic creative,
but then we went over and switched into the frequencies
and the energies, and literally my brain was getting blown
up because the clan of Sasquatch that lived not far
from that person's house, everybody's talking at one time, and
they were all excited that this person was learning about
the frequencies and the energy because that's a big deal

(02:19:01):
to all the cryptids as well as what's going on in.

Speaker 4 (02:19:03):
Our world right now. And it was like I had
to tell them, just give me a second.

Speaker 12 (02:19:07):
You know, everybody's talking at one time, so I could
compartmentalize what everybody was saying and get the messages across
to them and make sure it's accurate. The thing I
like the most is when I get the feedback from
my people and they're like, there's no way you could
have known about this, Like, no way you could have known,
and then you know, be able to link right in

(02:19:28):
on it, So you know, that's always I think that's
the most fun I get with it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:32):
I can see that. I can see that.

Speaker 4 (02:19:36):
Yeah, And we do a lot of overtime.

Speaker 12 (02:19:38):
Like you know, the sessions are booked either as a
thirty minute session or a sixty minute session. And I
always tell everybody, you know, if you book for an hour,
that's fine, You're going to have your hour. But if
we're right in the middle of something that's going on,
whether it's psychically or whether it's the classes or whatever,
I don't drop people just because the timer went out.

(02:20:00):
It's going to take what we're working on at that
moment in time another thirty minutes to do it. Then
thirty minutes you got free on the clock. You know,
you pay for what you do because because we do
get into a lot of stuff, and if it's a
psychic reading and a lot of things are coming in,
I don't want anybody to feel like they got dropped
just because the timer went out.

Speaker 4 (02:20:18):
Like that drives me crazy, it just does.

Speaker 12 (02:20:21):
So everybody is generally pretty happy because they booked for
an hour and then they end up going like an
hour and a.

Speaker 4 (02:20:26):
Half to two hours. They still pay for the hours.
So we have a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (02:20:31):
We talk a lot about Sasquatch with you and your cryptids.
But have you ever had a situation where you have
had any sort of transformation, some transformational conversation with extraterrestrials.

Speaker 4 (02:20:51):
Yeah, I get a lot of et activity.

Speaker 12 (02:20:55):
I get a lot of abductions, and this is this
is so crazy, Like this one even shocked me. I
had about a week and a half ago missing time
of like about five to six hours. It was a
large span, and during that time, like some abductions, because

(02:21:15):
I'd been abducted on and off my whole life that
it's not been a secret, it's been made public. Lots
of DNA taken, you know. I had a couple of
fetal implants and that kind of thing. And normally if
I don't remember, okay, but a lot of times they
do let me remember. And this was like a five
to six hour time span that was just blacked out,

(02:21:36):
just completely.

Speaker 4 (02:21:37):
I was awake when I mean I was wide awake.

Speaker 12 (02:21:39):
I felt myself getting knocked out, and then all this
time goes by. I woke up, there was damage to
my phone, I had marks on me, but I didn't
feel frightened like I you know, it had been a
bad experience. It had just been an experience so I
went in last week to get my hair cut. My
daughter took me to this on that she goes to.

(02:22:01):
They went to go cut the back of my hair,
and I told her I don't want a lot of
length stuff. There was a rectangular shape cut that had
been taken out of the back of my hair. I
couldn't see it from the front because the sides were
still long, but it was in the back and it
was like four or five inches wide and like three

(02:22:23):
inches tall. And the woman that was cutting my hair
was absolutely floored and I could of course, I couldn't
see it was in the back. I had no idea,
and she showed my daughter and then she showed me
the mirror and it was very, very clear. It was
a rectangular shape cut. They had to take about three

(02:22:43):
inches off just to even try to make it somewhat level.

Speaker 4 (02:22:47):
And I said to her, I said, well, is it
like a rub mark?

Speaker 3 (02:22:49):
What is it?

Speaker 12 (02:22:50):
I mean, I don't understand this. And she said, no,
this was cut. This was absolutely cut. And she's like,
who cut your hair last? And I said, like a
year ago, literally, I just let my hair grow out,
so it's I get a lot of weird stuff that
goes on. I mean, that's like the normal things in
my life. I have a very abnormal life. If it

(02:23:12):
goes normal, I'm going to be in panic mode because
I'm not going to know what to do right.

Speaker 4 (02:23:17):
You know. I get a lot of beams of light that.

Speaker 12 (02:23:18):
Get shined in my window, and it's just it's really crazy.
I get a lot of et activity, more than you know,
probably what anybody realizes. But it's been like that my
whole life. Like my first time I remember being on
a ship. I was four, and it's just been on

(02:23:38):
and off my whole life.

Speaker 4 (02:23:39):
So that's my normal.

Speaker 1 (02:23:40):
Who takes you? Pardon who takes you?

Speaker 4 (02:23:46):
You know, I've had different races. I mean I don't
even know all the names of these races.

Speaker 12 (02:23:51):
Like normally, I've had the tall Grays, I've had the
short grays. I've had encounters with Nordics, and I've had mantis.
I had this one that looked like an aunt. I
had the head of an aunt. You know, it's just
its craziness, it really is. When I was little, I
don't I never knew any better. Like for me, it

(02:24:14):
was my normal, so I didn't I never realized when
I was small that this isn't what everybody did, like
this was abnormal to everybody else, because this was my normal.
By the time I realized nobody was having any of
these experiences, I just kept my mouth shot.

Speaker 1 (02:24:32):
Robin Haynes and the cryptid Q and A continues on
spaced out radio. Only return right after this.

Speaker 7 (02:24:40):
This is spaced out radio, and your host's name Scott.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
All right, we're clear, Robin.

Speaker 12 (02:25:05):
Okay, Yeah, it's definitely interesting at my place.

Speaker 4 (02:25:11):
Usually mm hm. I felt bad the other night.

Speaker 12 (02:25:18):
I went out in the backyard, you know, and usually
I don't ever flash flashlights into the woods because if
there's cryptids out there, you know, it frightens them.

Speaker 4 (02:25:27):
So I just don't.

Speaker 12 (02:25:28):
And one of the dogs had broke the fence in
the backyard, and I thought, God, I got to go
out in the dark and fix it.

Speaker 4 (02:25:35):
They've got to be out in the morning to go.

Speaker 12 (02:25:37):
To the bathroom. I don't anybody getting loose. So I
went out there with a flashlight. I didn't really normally
they tell me when they're out there. Nobody said a thing.
I went out in the backyard and I flashed the
flashlight on the fence, and man, whoever, it was all
I saw it looked like it was about ten twelve
feet tall, booking across the backyard. Absolutely lived. Next thing,

(02:25:57):
I know, a tree gets lifted up and top. I mean,
it wasn't a massive tree, but it was a tree.
And then it just sounded like a freight train going
bit there and I was like.

Speaker 4 (02:26:07):
I'm sorry, you know, I didn't know. Nobody said a thing,
but definitely they were not happy.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
No, no, I can see where they wouldn't be.

Speaker 12 (02:26:22):
But yeah, that's that's part of my normal routine, you know.
Or like I'll be sitting on my bed watching TV
and they're knocking on the wall.

Speaker 4 (02:26:34):
From the outside, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:26:36):
They I had a friend of mine, a former friend
of mine who actually had that happen m and her
husband was working overnight shifts because he worked for the
railroad and he was working overnight shift, and she got
so scared she called me up at like two o'clock

(02:26:58):
in the morning and said, can you come here and
check my property? And I just drove my vehicle right like,
because they had ten acres right onto their grass right
around the house, trying to see if I could see anything.

Speaker 12 (02:27:11):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, they And you know, you want
to if you're going to be where they're interacting like
that in the middle of the night. There was a
long period of time that they would knock on my
window and I would go outside with them about two
o'clock in the morning, and I'd go out and sit
in the woods with them, and they would be chattering

(02:27:32):
and walking around me or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:27:34):
I didn't know anybody. I mean, I wasn't.

Speaker 12 (02:27:36):
Really active with the Sasquatch community. I didn't know any better.
Like now, I look at it and I'm thinking I
could have gotten myself killed because I was completely cut
off from everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:27:46):
The group I was working.

Speaker 12 (02:27:47):
With just was the best, Like I could do anything
with them. I felt safe at all times.

Speaker 4 (02:27:52):
But I wouldn't recommend doing it.

Speaker 12 (02:27:54):
You know, if you're going to go out and things
like that are going on, you don't leave your doorway.
You don't ever put yoursel off in a situation that
anybody could get behind you. You know, back then, I
was by myself. I didn't have anybody to guide me
or teach me or anything. And I was like, okay,
no problem. I'd be in my slippers of pajamas, no flashlight,
no nothing.

Speaker 4 (02:28:14):
I'm out there with them. They're running all around.

Speaker 12 (02:28:16):
You know, I can see them physically, and I can
hear them because they're chattering back and forth. Or they
would be out sitting underneath my window all night long
and I can hear them talking back and forth.

Speaker 4 (02:28:29):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:28:29):
I put an air conditioner in my window one time,
and I woke up the next morning they had taken
the air conditioner out. It was totally mangled and at
the back of the woods because they couldn't see me
through the window.

Speaker 1 (02:28:43):
I just imagine I just had the stupidest vision to
my head about that. Eh, where's Robin. How can we
can't watch her? Let's get rid of those box man.

Speaker 12 (02:28:52):
Oh they did, And you know, it was weird because
the dogs never sounded off. I never heard a noise,
which means they would have had to train me as
well as the dogs.

Speaker 4 (02:29:02):
And it was a brand new air conditioner, and.

Speaker 12 (02:29:04):
They didn't like it if I moved my bed away
from that window, because the window I would leave open
a little bit at night and they would reach their
hand in and play with my hair. I'd get up
in the morning, I'd have mud and leaves and everything
in my hair. But it got really hot that summer.
So I put an air conditioner in and I thought,
no big deal.

Speaker 4 (02:29:21):
I mean it made.

Speaker 12 (02:29:22):
It probably partially through the first night, and that was it.
And it was at the back of the woods, mangled up,
torn apart.

Speaker 4 (02:29:29):
It was ridiculous. I was like, fine, I'll sweat.

Speaker 1 (02:29:32):
You know, there's nothing else like my word.

Speaker 4 (02:29:35):
But it was one of those things.

Speaker 12 (02:29:37):
I don't they have to be able to see me
through the window, Like I don't have curtains in my bedroom.
When I put curtains up in my bedroom, they just
they pound, they scream, they holler. But I've always lived
in the woods, so I mean, it's not like anybody
can see me. I change in the bathroom, you know.
So it's not a big deal. But I'll wake up
and roll over.

Speaker 4 (02:29:55):
And there's faces in the window.

Speaker 1 (02:29:57):
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Robin Haynes, we have it till the top of the hour,

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and Robin, one of the things you were mentioning on
the break, and I figured we'd bring it over to
the show, was that sasquatch and other cryptid creatures for
some reason, like to look in windows into houses. They've
been seen to be walking on these porches and looking
into windows, bedroom windows, bathroom windows, living room windows, kitchen windows.

(02:31:54):
What's the fascination with the windows.

Speaker 4 (02:31:57):
It's not the windows, it's us.

Speaker 5 (02:32:00):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:32:00):
It's always so funny to me because we have all
of our people that go out in the woods and
they're trying to find sasquatch and watch them and spy
on them and see what they're doing all the time.
And we're out there looking for them while they're coming in.

Speaker 4 (02:32:11):
To look at us.

Speaker 12 (02:32:13):
I mean, like they are just as fascinated we're in
the house. That's why they're in the window.

Speaker 4 (02:32:19):
You know. It's very common in my.

Speaker 12 (02:32:21):
World where if I roll over in the middle of
the night, I get woke up or whatever, I roll
over and there will.

Speaker 4 (02:32:26):
Be a face looking in the window.

Speaker 12 (02:32:28):
It used to drive my kids crazy when they were
growing up, you know, because they would have their bedrooms
and they didn't want curtains. They wanted the blackout curtains.
They wanted no light, no anything that could be seen
to that window, because if they would wake up in
the middle of the night and they'd look at a window,
there'd be a sasquatch looking at my boys. One day
came and woke me up and they're like, Mom, there's

(02:32:49):
three men sitting in the backyard, sitting Indian style. And
my kids all had TVs in their room and they
had their curtains open and was going and these you know,
they didn't know what they were watching. They just saw
the colors dancing on the TV screen and they would
sit out there Indian style. We caught them several times

(02:33:10):
just watching in the window because they could see where
the TV was. I mean, it's not like they're watching
a program. They were just seeing that, you know, all
these shapes and figures were dancing all around.

Speaker 4 (02:33:21):
My daughter would hate it. She's like, I don't want
to wake up and see a face in the window.

Speaker 12 (02:33:25):
My boys got to be the same way. They were
never frightened. It just creeped them out because they were
being watched all the time.

Speaker 4 (02:33:32):
You couldn't.

Speaker 12 (02:33:33):
My kitchen window was like eight foot off the ground,
and my daughter would come and get me and say,
every time I go in the kitchen, there's a face
in the window. I'd walk outside, there'd be footprints out
the window, or you know, you'd go to look and
you see them as they were going.

Speaker 4 (02:33:47):
Into the woods.

Speaker 12 (02:33:49):
It's just a fascination they I mean, they're busy watching people.

Speaker 4 (02:33:53):
We're out there chasing them all around, trying to watch them.

Speaker 12 (02:33:55):
And it's just hysterical because well we're watching them the
whole time they're watching us. I mean, it's just a
novelty to them, you know. Now, Like the kids had
all the blackout curtains so they didn't have to see
it all the time. I like I was telling you
a few minutes ago, I wasn't allowed that freedom. If
they can't see in my bedroom window, I have pounding.

(02:34:16):
I hear hollering, I get mind speak, I hear it audibly.
They book, you know, they're constantly going on. They panic,
they pound on the walls, they have a fit. Now,
I've always lived out in the woods, you know, I
get dressed in the bathroom, so it's.

Speaker 4 (02:34:31):
Not that big of a deal.

Speaker 12 (02:34:32):
I don't have window peepers other than the cryptids that
look in my window.

Speaker 4 (02:34:36):
I don't even attempt curtains on my window. There's no point.

Speaker 12 (02:34:40):
Because if I put the curtains down, they have a
they totally flip out. For a long time, I've gotten
where I have more freedom with moving my bed around
the room as long as they can see me. But
with one clan that was around me when I lived
in Michigan, they were the most hands on clan I've
ever experienced. They walked around my property uncloaked all the time.

(02:35:03):
It was not uncommon just to look out in the
yard and see them walking around.

Speaker 4 (02:35:07):
The interaction was off the charts.

Speaker 12 (02:35:09):
It's I've never been anywhere that it was that active
where they didn't care if I saw them.

Speaker 1 (02:35:16):
You know, when they're looking in the window. Sorry, sorry,
But when they are looking in the windows and they're
curious about us, what gets the curious? Is it music?
Is it television? Is it just us roaming around or
eating dinner at the kitchen table, If anybody actually does
that anymore, it's just so they.

Speaker 12 (02:35:36):
Can see what we're doing. They don't understand what we're
doing most of the time. But if you also are
a high frequency person and they're.

Speaker 4 (02:35:43):
Hearing you laugh, which raises your frequency.

Speaker 12 (02:35:46):
Or you've got kids or pets or whatever, it's it's
like just being able they get to see.

Speaker 4 (02:35:51):
What we're doing.

Speaker 12 (02:35:52):
They're constantly curious as to what we're doing. Summer, you know,
you've got groups of them that just want to get
high up in the mountains or high deep in.

Speaker 4 (02:36:00):
The woods to get away from us.

Speaker 12 (02:36:02):
But the ones that do like a little bit of
human contact, we're a curiosity. They will literally watch all
the time. I've gotten up at two and three in
the morning and walk through my living room and had
one standing on my porch looking in the window, you know,
on the big door that goes out back, and it's
just standing there. They want to watch all the time.

(02:36:25):
My front door is a solid door, but it has
glass panels all the way around it. I can't tell
you how many times I've been in the living room
and looked over to these glass panels. In Zerky, which
is one of the kids around here. He's getting older now,
but I mean he's still under ten, and his head,
his little black head, which isn't little anymore, is looking

(02:36:45):
in those glass panels. He would go up on the
porch because I always put food out for the feral cats,
and he would steal the cat food like I didn't
know it was him, and I would literally watch him
stealing the cat food, and then he'd look in the
window before he turned around and left.

Speaker 4 (02:37:00):
I mean, it's just they're just curious.

Speaker 12 (02:37:02):
They want to see whatever it is we're doing. Just
like we want to study their daily lives.

Speaker 4 (02:37:07):
They do the same thing. They're around much more than
people think.

Speaker 1 (02:37:15):
I want to get to a question from our audience here,
maybe two. Okay, start off with blue cruise. Do the
Sasquatch use a chirping or clicking consonants or noises to
communicate with each other similar to Kogian language used by
indigenous tribes or groups in southern Africa.

Speaker 4 (02:37:36):
They actually do. Whether it's you know, like that kind
of a tribe or not, but they do.

Speaker 12 (02:37:42):
Even if they are out in the woods and we
come up on them or whatever. They will do clicking, chirping,
bird noises. They will make a noise like with their face,
where like if you were to open your mouth and
then hit the side of your face like a cuppying noise.

Speaker 4 (02:37:57):
They'll do that.

Speaker 12 (02:37:58):
They can imitate any noise they want, but it's almost
it reminds me of speaking.

Speaker 4 (02:38:02):
Like in Morris code.

Speaker 12 (02:38:05):
Like they'll have certain chirps that they'll make so that
one of the other ones will hear them, and it
will have certain meanings, whether it's okay, there's a human here,
or there's this here, or there's that here, But yeah,
they absolutely will absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:38:20):
What about this samurai chatter? Then, yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (02:38:25):
Samurai chatter again.

Speaker 12 (02:38:26):
It's all communication and alerting the other ones to situations.

Speaker 4 (02:38:32):
They know we aren't going to know what they're talking about.
We aren't going to know what they mean.

Speaker 12 (02:38:37):
So rather than use words that would key us to
what they're doing, it's they're going to do samurai chatter again.

Speaker 4 (02:38:44):
They're going to do the chirping. They're going to do all.

Speaker 12 (02:38:47):
Kinds of weird noises that mean something between them, so
they can signal each other, they can communicate with each
other without anybody knowing about it.

Speaker 1 (02:39:00):
Okay, let's move on to another question. Let's go to Erica.
Have you ever told them not to mess with your home?

Speaker 10 (02:39:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:39:10):
When when some of them get a little bit over zealous.

Speaker 12 (02:39:14):
Yeah, oh yeah. The adolescence and the little kids a
few years ago kept climbing up on my roof and
they would go right over my bedroom and they would
play up there, and it sounded like a frat party
from a you know, from a college dorm up there,
and I was so afraid they were going to end
up coming through the roof because they just there was
too many up there. They were just playing and wrestling,

(02:39:36):
and I tried mind speaking and telling them to get down,
and they weren't listening.

Speaker 4 (02:39:40):
And they weren't listening.

Speaker 12 (02:39:41):
I even told them, I said, if you don't stop,
I'm going to find your parents. You guys, you know,
I mean, I did the whole thing. Nobody would listen.
So I finally one night, at like one o'clock in
the morning, I'm outside in my yard doing the mom voice,
which does not work very often. Once in a while
I can get away with it, and I'm like, you
will get your hairy ass is off my roof right now,
or I'm going to go to the consul and I'm

(02:40:02):
gonna I think they probably laughed at me, but they
did stop, and I have not had a problem with
them since. But yeah, they generally are not destructive for me.
Have we had damage, absolutely, but not intentional damage. It's
like if whoever watched the cartoon the Flintstones and there
was bam bam rubble, you know, like they don't know

(02:40:24):
their own strength, and so they would do different things.
In my garage for a very long time, I had
kennels in there for some of the dogs, and I
also have a kennel where my mini pigs go in
at night because they have to have climate control.

Speaker 4 (02:40:37):
They don't like being outside all.

Speaker 12 (02:40:39):
The time, and they would want to play with the animals,
And so they actually took the bottom corner of the
garage door, which is a very very large it's a
two car garage.

Speaker 4 (02:40:51):
With one door. Who devised it had to be an idiot.
It's the worst thing ever.

Speaker 12 (02:40:55):
And they pushed it in at the bottom corner, and
they pushed it so hard it bent the wheels and
pulled it right off the track. And they then it
flipped that door up, and then they just did the
belly crawl and came in. I go out in the
garage in the morning. All the animals are loose because
they've let them out of the pen. There's muddy footprints
all over the place. They didn't tear anything apart in

(02:41:18):
the garage. They just wanted to play with the animals.
That's all they wanted to do, you know. I mean
it got to the point where at night I was
putting cameras out there to see who was doing what.
But they just destroyed that garage door. And they weren't
trying to destroy the garage door. They wanted to come
in and play with the animals. They played with my
dogs and my mini pigs outside all the time. They've

(02:41:39):
never heard them. They've been great with them. My animals
love them. But when they went in at night, they
were having a fit and I had to go out
there and again throw a hissy fit, you know, and
you are not going to do that. I've been very
fortunate that generally if they start getting into too much
trouble or get too torqued up, they generally will back

(02:42:00):
it down. If I get mad enough, they back it down,
so they you know, I've been lucky. I know a
lot of people that have not.

Speaker 10 (02:42:10):
So.

Speaker 12 (02:42:10):
Yeah, there's been a little bit of damage here and there,
not intentional damage, like they don't come in and just
destroy all my stuff.

Speaker 10 (02:42:18):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:42:18):
I get a lot of people to say, oh, I'm
sure you've got all this damage. I really don't.

Speaker 12 (02:42:22):
There's been a few isolated incidences. You know, the garage
door wasn't thrilled about.

Speaker 1 (02:42:26):
Right. I want to I want to ask you a
question because George Knapp recently interviewed David Politis on David
Politus's next documentary about Bigfoot. Yeah, and Politis finally gets
into the fact that sasquatch may not be just flesh
and blood. It may have some supernatural ability. Absolutely okay.

(02:42:51):
He also brought up the fact about the BFRO, the
Bigfoot Research Organization, which alleges to be a scientific group okay,
where they are looking for scientific answers, but on the
flip side, in my opinion and many other opinions like it,

(02:43:16):
they're not doing very much scientific considering that they are
actually excluding reports that include high strangeness of say UFOs
or paranormal activity or what have you. And I find
that very very discomforting because we're trying to bring legitimacy

(02:43:37):
to this subject. But if we're eliminating evidence because it
doesn't fall under a narrative, I think that's dangerous for
the field. Now, I'm not here to slam the BFRO.
I'm here to say that I'm disappointed with them if
this is what they are doing. But for someone like

(02:43:58):
yourself who has dealt in in the Bigfoot community a
lot longer than I ever have, okay, I find it
a little bit dismal. So here's a quote, and thanks
to bugs finds Bigfoot on this for posting this On
X George Knapp asks the BFRO, the Bigfoot Field Researchers organization,

(02:44:24):
the big one, the gets reports from all over the world,
Almost none of them have any details similar to this, right,
I guess that they know that they'd face some scorn
from the rest of their fellow bigfoot hunters. David Politis replies, So,
two people that were on the film, Joe Hauser and
Tom Powell, they were in the top tier, the top

(02:44:45):
five of BFRO years ago, and they started to do
their research and they started to get these kinds of
stories we're talking about, and they would submit them and
the people at the top kept throwing them out, and
eventually they were kicked out of the organization for submitting
reports like that. So people know on BFRO, you don't

(02:45:07):
want to submit something that like that being wo okay,
because there's a good chance it's not going to go through, which,
in essence, since that is the largest organization, they're really
controlling the flow of information on this topic. Then he
goes on to say Matt Moneymaker, BFRO founder and president

(02:45:29):
since nineteen ninety five, is the main figure responsible for
the organization's policies of sidelining paranormal aspects of bigfoot reports.
Leading a self described scientific group, he insists on a
biological flesh and blood explanation and filters out UFOs, vanishings, orbs,

(02:45:52):
and other high strangeness details witnesses often include in bfro's
vetting process. Under his only accounts with multiple witnesses and
physical evidence are prioritized. Paranormal elements are redacted or rejected
to preserve credibility. There's nothing scientific about this if they're.

Speaker 4 (02:46:15):
Editing it exactly.

Speaker 12 (02:46:17):
First off, I have met a lot of people through
the BFIROH. Okay, so what I'm saying does not include everybody,
every member. There are some members in the BFIROH that
are open minded, are actually concerned about the Sasquatch, and
are very good people. The predominant amount that I've met

(02:46:37):
is a different story.

Speaker 4 (02:46:39):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (02:46:39):
I would not attack the entire organization because I think
there are some people in there that are open minded
and they are good.

Speaker 4 (02:46:46):
But what I found with them, I keep my distance
from them. Okay.

Speaker 12 (02:46:50):
They're very unrealistic, everybody, can you know. They come at
me and they're like, well, you believe in all this
wood stuff and it's not real. Okay, number one.

Speaker 4 (02:46:58):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 12 (02:46:59):
I've lived my entire life. I have witnesses, I have photos,
I have all these things.

Speaker 4 (02:47:03):
So whatever.

Speaker 12 (02:47:05):
But the thing is, these are not just flesh and blood.
They are a multi dimensional being. They are a human hybrid.
It's a fact, whether anybody.

Speaker 4 (02:47:13):
Likes it or not. And they want to keep it
down to flesh and blood.

Speaker 12 (02:47:18):
I did a conference and there was a member of
the BFIRO there and he was talking about structure, the
structures number one. He didn't know anything about them, you know,
I mean, according to him, they're just decorative, not that
they can't be, but there's a.

Speaker 4 (02:47:31):
Meaning behind them. They mean something.

Speaker 12 (02:47:34):
But also I was even given confirmation from several people
in the BFRORO and I'm not going to name names,
that the government uses the BFIRO to try to find, locate,
and hunt thisasquatch. And they aren't hunting them because they
want to you know, have tea with them. They want
to hunt them so they can kill them or capture

(02:47:56):
them or use them for experiments. Now, the BFIRO is
not directly the ones doing that, that is the government,
but they use BFRO logs to get into it. And
I had that confirmed by several of BFROO members. Now,
do I blame the entire organization. Absolutely not. Like I said,
there are some very good people in there that I consider,

(02:48:19):
you know, very intelligent, actually know the truth about them.

Speaker 4 (02:48:23):
But because it is such a large.

Speaker 12 (02:48:24):
Group and they do actively go on to what they
consider research areas. I don't know how they're researching it,
but whatever, and they do, you know, all these different
trips where they go and they camp and they get
all this interaction and stuff. So it is a very
big thing that everybody goes on. Now I know people

(02:48:45):
that file the report with.

Speaker 4 (02:48:47):
Them, and it was a disaster.

Speaker 12 (02:48:49):
The one gentleman lived not far from me, and he
eventually got hold of me because he filed with the BFRORO.
They sent their big team out there. They absolutely blew
up this man's whole life because they caused so much
attention to it and public attention to it that it
destroyed his life. It destroyed his marriage. The sasquatch ended

(02:49:13):
up getting angry at all these people flying around, and
it was he ended up moving.

Speaker 4 (02:49:19):
He had to move.

Speaker 12 (02:49:21):
Now, I will say this, when I first started, I mean,
I've been around these things since I was little. But
it got to a point where there was so much activity,
and I was like, okay, I'm by myself in this.

Speaker 4 (02:49:31):
Who do I contact.

Speaker 12 (02:49:32):
I was living in Michigan, I was probably late teens,
early twenties, and I thought, I've got to talk to somebody,
because not I mean, I'm going through this all the time,
there's got to be other people. At the time, there
was only two places in Michigan BFRORO in Michigan Bigfoot.
For anybody living in Michigan, go to Michigan Bigfoot. Bob

(02:49:53):
Daegel is the one that heads it. He is tremendous.
He understands exactly all the different things that go on,
and he I could now I would not be where
I am if he was not as kind of me
as he was.

Speaker 4 (02:50:03):
I've tried to file a report with BFIRO.

Speaker 12 (02:50:07):
Because at that time I had had a young male
that had actually gotten into my house and he was terrified.
He was hungry. I mean, you know, he was fine,
nobody got hurt. And I filed a report with them,
thinking okay, I can meet like minded people. I couldn't
even get them to talk to me because they said

(02:50:28):
I was you know, it was probably made up. Didn't
matter that I had photographs, you know, of different things
that it had done in the house.

Speaker 4 (02:50:37):
It didn't matter.

Speaker 12 (02:50:37):
They weren't going to talk to me because I had
too much experience in that and they didn't want to
have anything.

Speaker 4 (02:50:42):
To do with it. So they're very selective on what
they take.

Speaker 12 (02:50:45):
And again, this is not all of them, this is
just the majority. So I don't want anybody getting hurt, offended,
or whatever, because there are some people in it that
are very good, but they do not want to believe
in anything other than flesh and blood. And okay, if
that's what you want to believe in, you go right ahead.

Speaker 4 (02:51:02):
But then don't sit there and tell me that you
want to know the truth.

Speaker 12 (02:51:06):
Knowing the truth means you open your mindset to the
possibilities of that truth. You may not like it, you
may not want to understand it, but you can't.

Speaker 4 (02:51:15):
The truth doesn't lie. It is the truth. It doesn't
change over time.

Speaker 12 (02:51:19):
If they're out there doing research, I want to see
that they're doing research, because they're not. When we did
the genome study, all those samples that we had, if
there was somebody with a sample that was BFIROH, it
wasn't listed from the BFIROH, it was an individual name.

(02:51:39):
But I don't see any of them stepping up and saying,
look it, you know what I've got here samples, I've
got blood samples, I've got urine samples. All the things
that we did. They don't want to know. The pretense
is they are out there, they are doing research. They
are a research facility. They're doing all of these things. Okay,

(02:52:00):
that's great, wonderful.

Speaker 4 (02:52:03):
I applaud you. But when the tests come back, when
the reality hits, be accepting of it.

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