July 30/25 - Paranormal Encounters with Tiffany Doran

Tiffany Doran is a paranormal author and researcher, who has seen encounters with Bigfoot and spirits and ghosts. Tiffany came in to discuss some paranormal encounters and activity that has happened on her property and inside her family home.

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We have an amazing show for you tonight, Paranormal Stories,

(02:28):
Monster Stories from the beautiful state of Virginia. Tiffany Duran
is here. She's gonna share some of her closest encounters
and investigations. Then in our number three swamp Dweller will
join us with another creepy story, follow that up by
Little Timmy James. He will be at his home studio
tonight for the UFO Report. All right, let's get right

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to this bad boy tonight. It's gonna be a good one.
Tiffany Duran lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia
with her husband of more than twenty years, their three daughters,
seven energetic grandsons. Her life's long fascination with things that
aren't supposed to exist began at age twelve when her
dad introduced her to late night documentaries at books about
UFOs and bigfoot, and guess what, it became an obsession

(03:17):
right to this day. Tiffany is the co host and
producer of The Bigfoot Report, a YouTube based live show
dedicated to eyewitness encounters at field research. It can be
seen Eastern time seven pm on Tuesdays. It's four o'clock
for those of us running on real time here. Yeah,
Saturday's at ten pm Eastern seven Pacific as well. Her

(03:38):
fieldwork blends personal sightings on her own property with hundreds
of interviews she's conducted or moderated, giving her fiction at
forthcoming nonfiction projects and authentic edge. I say we get
right to her because this sounds like a lot of fun.
Tiffany Duran, Welcome to spaced Out Radio for the first time.
How are you.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I'm great, I'm elated to be here. Thank you for
having me on.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
We're glad you're here too, because you know, one thing
that we learned about is you got nice hair. You
got nice hair, so we figured we figured, you know,
we like good hair around here, so thank you for
having nice hair. You're gonna fit in perfectly.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Thanks. It's a little grayer than i'd prefer being here.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, don't be talking gray with me. I've gone from
gray to white. You know, one of these days I'm
gonna shock my audience on social media because I'm actually
gonna dye my beard color. I want to do.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Are you gonna die it?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I don't know, probably natural color. Back to my natural color,
you know, get the old just for men, so that
way you get the like the little gray whiskers coming out.
I don't know. Maybe I'll tiger stripe it. That'd be
kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You should tiger stripe it.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
That would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
That would be all I mean. Halloween's coming up, bro,
just go all out.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
MM. Take us back to when you we were twelve
years old and Dad is introducing you to all of
these weird, strange documentaries at TV shows about UFOs and
paradormal encounters at sasquatch encounters. Why would he do that
to you? Just out of curiosity.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well, you know, because he had a mind for the weird,
I think, more so than I even knew at that time.
You know, my dad was in Vietnam and I really
really think David that he had some kind of encounter
with one of the rock apes that you here talked about,

(05:37):
and I think he brought it home. You know, as
far as the UFOs, we didn't really talk like if
he had experiences with foes. And he passed away six
years ago, so I can't ask. I mean, I could
get a spirit box and ask him, but I don't
know what he's rul me. But yeah, it was just

(05:58):
it was just a conversation that we had and I
picked out all the weird books at the library and
I was just a weird kid and it just followed me.
And I just turned forty five and I'm still the
weird kid. But it's fun.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know. The one thing about monsters and paranormal you
kind of get that that you know, Peter Pan kind
of thing going there where you never have to grow up,
It never ages you, it never does anything. It is
so much fun to go explore in this field. How
much fun do you have doing this or saying that

(06:36):
you're a monster hunter or a paranormal investigator.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Well, it's funny you say that because I had just
maybe three weeks ago, I had stopped by Dunkin Donuts.
That's my favorite place to get coffee, Starby's. Please don't
hate me, but that's just where it's where my caffeine
comes from. And I had taken a picture of myself
on Snapchat and I wrote on their drinking coffee chasing monsters,

(07:05):
and it got like the biggest pop and it was
I mean, it's factual, you know. That's and I'm so
blessed that I get to wake up and I get
to do that. And I've introduced it to my grandsons
and our children, so Bigfoot will always live on, and
paranormal will always live on.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Do you recall your first encounter?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Well, I can tell you when I was probably around
the age that my dad started talking to me about
this stuff. I have an older sister, so I was twelve.
She would have been fourteen, so I'm trying to that
was a while ago. So she was twelve or I
was twelve and she was fourteen, or I was fourteen

(07:55):
and she was sixteen, No matter, she bought a Ouiji
board into the house against my parents' wishes, had a sleepover,
and this is what was done. We did the she
did the Yeah. I didn't dabble with that portion of
it too much, but I do remember laying on the

(08:18):
kitchen floor at that age, and I had a group
of girls around me, and you know, being the baby sister,
you want to be just so cool, right, So I
laid in the kitchen floor and they all gathered around
me and put their fingertips under me and started saying,
what is a feather stip as a board? Okay, So

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I don't know how it happened. I don't even want
to fathom how it happened. But my mother comes in
the house and I remember, or comes in the kitchen
and I remember hitting the floor hard. Was I floating?
I don't know, I don't remember. But that was the
first issue that or the experience that I had with

(09:02):
anything crazy like that, and it scared the Jesus side
of me. And then you know, here on our property
back in twenty twenty one, that's when my husband had
his encounter with not the paranormal, but with a big
foot or an assumed bigfoot. So we were mowing the

(09:27):
grass because I'm weird. I love to mow the grass.
It's very therapeutic to me. And we live on a mountain,
so we live on a down slope and so we
have a house above us. We're in the middle, and
then we have the you know, our backyard that it
all goes down. So I finished you. On my part,

(09:50):
my husband is weed eating and cleaning things off the
fence line, vines and whatnot because it is the Amazon jungle.
And I go upstairs and set in front of our
house and I'm taking a break and he calls me
and he's I'm thinking water right, He's thirsty, he wants
a bottle of water. So then he's like, I need

(10:13):
to ask you a question. And I said okay, And
I was like, what's what's up? Because he had this
he just had this tone. You know, it's just very odd.
And he said, do they come out in the daytime?
And I said, do what come out in the daytime?
And he said Bigfoot? Do Bigfoot come out in the daytime?

(10:37):
Because everything I've ever shown him has been at night, right,
So I said, well, you know, you hear about the
day watchers coming out and watching over and I said why,
because it was just very bizarre for him to just
suddenly ask me this question. And he said, because I
think that's a sell one. That was it for me.

(11:00):
I was up, I was down the stairs, and I
was in the backyard with him, and he is freaking out,
freaking out. So he is not one that shutters at
things that go bump in the night. He has been
a romatic for twenty six years. He was scared. And

(11:24):
he said that he had stopped to fix the line
on the weed eater and he had turned his music
down on his AirPods and it gruffed at him because
he had looked up, and it gruffed at him and
took off. He said it was like one to two seconds.
He doesn't he didn't see any facial features. It was

(11:47):
just like an eight foot blur gab and he said
it was about twenty to twenty five feet away from him.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Oh wow, yes.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yes, And he is six foot one, two eighty five
at the time. I'm well, I'm still a five foot four,
but I was one forty and I'm like, he's he
wanted me to stay out there. He didn't want me
to leave him. He just kept saying please stay out
here with me, Please stay out here with me. And

(12:19):
I'm like, oh my good, I'm like this big compared
to you. And he was. He was shook. He was shook.
So he will tell you and I will tell you.
We're not saying one hundred percent that it was bigfoot. However,
we've ruled everything else out and it took off one

(12:40):
two feet. We have bear. We have bear on our
ring camera. You know we're not naive to the fact
that bear don't stand up on their feet. Can they
move that fast on their back feet? No? Do we
have eight foot bears here? Sayk goodness? Now, So once
you rule every out that you know is here, you

(13:03):
have to look at what you're left with.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I want to stop you right there, because one of
the things that you just mentioned is ruling everything out
that you do. I mean, I think for a lot
of the skeptics out there, and I've said this previously,
and I've never been a researcher before until I started.
My buddy Tim and I who does my UFO report.
We started in our own area here with where we've

(13:28):
been going the last number of weeks. And the one
thing that I've learned because I've never put the researcher's
hat on. I've always considered myself an enthusiast of the phenomena, right,
I didn't care if I like, I've seen some cool stuff, man,
trust me on that, Okay, But I'm never worried about
cameras or pictures or video because I just wanted to

(13:52):
just live the moment and have that experience. But putting
an amateur researcher's hat on that both Tim and I
are doing for the first time. The one thing that
I've learned, even with the critics that we have encountered
through this, is that you know, they automatically think we

(14:14):
jump to the WU, which we don't. You know, we
don't just jump to the WU. You have to be
able to have logic and discernment with everything that's kind
of going on. And I like that you said that
because it just proves another way that you have to
be able to to use that little gray matter in

(14:34):
your head to say, you know, not everything is a
bigfoot or a dog man. It can be a bear,
it can be a mountain lion. It can be a
coyote or a deer or you know, a rabid swamp donkey,
which is a moose by the way, if people people
don't know, that's so that's a nickname for moose swamp donkeys, right,
But it's true. It's it is about discernment.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, and I think every every person should have that
some level of skepticism, right, because it's it's healthy. You
have to look, if you live somewhere like we do,
you have to, you know, do your research and finding
out what is typically here in the wild and what

(15:21):
shouldn't be here in the wild. And then you come
down and say, okay, well I've tried to debunk this,
but there's no way that I can debunk this. We
and that's the thing is, we don't go out here
and say, hey, he had an encounter with a big foot.
I'm telling you what he experienced, and then you make
that decision. We ruled everything out that could be eight

(15:43):
foot tall and gruff and just instantly be gone. And
that's what we're left with.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Now. My question for you is did it disappear or
did it walk away?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
It ran, he said. He said it was almost like
if you a baseball or a walnut and you throw
it through the leaves, it does that little and then
it was gone. Our thing is is if you're looking
directly at that chain link fence, if you go to

(16:16):
the right, you're gonna have to cross the guardrail to
get to the creek to get to the other mountain.
So you're going over busy traffic, and you gotta think,
this is the end of June, and it's dusk, so
the sun has not completely set. It's not dark. You're
gonna be seen, right, So if you go forward, I mean,

(16:40):
you're gonna run into more woods, but there's houses. So
we have a little alcove that dips down and I
was like, well, maybe it just went down there and
just laid low until it got dark, because if it
goes to the left, you're gonna run into my neighbor's house,
you know, And there's I mean, we live at a

(17:01):
dead end. So it goes up to more mountains from there,
but you're still going to be seen.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I love the fact how you just said dusk, because
that after seven weeks of investigation of our hot spot.
The one thing that I have learned about that is
it is like daylight is the calm before the storm,
and the minute dusk comes around, that's when all of

(17:31):
a sudden we have to be on edge of what
is at paying attention to what's going on around us.
It is incredible, incredible, you know, and yes, it's basic science.
Animals move.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
On.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
They move on as the sun goes down because they
want to try and get in a night feed or
to find a place that's safe to sleep, you know,
before kind of bearing on down. So it is a
little interesting how how how dusk just plays a major
part in what sasquatch does to.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Move right exactly, but that you know that that was
our thing, you know, with his encounter is where did
it go? Where did it go so fast? And you
hear other encounters is the same it was they're one
second gone the next, you know, and we're just out
doing normal everyday things and you know, being human And

(18:32):
did this one did he disturb this one? Did he
wake it up? And it went like I am disgusted
with you and take off? Was it just a curiosity thing, Hey,
we got a lot of noise coming from this area,
let's go check it out. And that's how he came about.

(18:55):
I'm not one hundred percent sure, but they're very curious,
so it could have been. But we've never.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Wrote it out any footprints or any type of evidence
left behind.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
No, well, not that we've seen, because across the fence,
once you get into that area in the summertime, it
is literally like the Amazon jungle, and there's ticks and
I mean it's just really thick brush right there. So
I didn't traverse into Tick Country to see if there

(19:35):
was anything there.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
So, as you started to develop an interest in these topics,
what caught you about it that this was something that
you needed to do, you needed to research, you needed
to write about.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Because I'm a very curious, inquisitive person. I want to
know the answer. So I just keep digging for the answer,
and I keep talking to different people who've encountered seemingly
seemingly the same exact thing all over the world. And
it's one of these enigmas that everybody has an event

(20:17):
with at one point of their life, if they're lucky
or another. And it was just finding the answer despite
all of all the hoaxes. I want to know the truth.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Do you think the answers are out there?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
You know, that's a good question. I think that they are,
but I think that they have to be gone about
finding the right way. I think if you go into
the woods and you hoop and holler. I don't think
that's necessarily going to bring you any closer to finding

(20:59):
one of these beings, creatures, whatever you see it as
as just being a human, but I think it's out there.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
What do you think they are?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
I always say they are flesh and blood with a
little dash of special. That's what I always say. I
think it's it can be a loaded question because there
are so many different encounters that I have read and
heard doing the show and reading. There's something to them,

(21:43):
but just like any animal, they need food, water, and shelter. Right,
But where the heck do they go so fast? How
can you be ginormous and not make any noise and
instantly be gone in two seconds? So I always say
flesh and blood and a little dash is special.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I always wonder about what they are. I don't know
if they're flesh and blood. I don't know if they
are are supernatural. The one thing I am convinced of
is that they're not people too who need voting rights. Okay,
I don't believe in that. You know so, But we're

(22:27):
all about our own opinions, and there's always this big
clash between you know the wu people like myself, and
maybe a little dash of what you do, and the
flesh and blooters. I think it's such a waste of
an argument, you know, when you're arguing about a creature
you know nothing about that you may have seen. You
may have found a footprinter too, you're thinking that you

(22:49):
may have found hair. Finding their scat piles is damn
near impossible. And you're an expert, and you're going to
say this is flesh and blood, it can't be anything else.
But I'm conducting science. I'm conducting science, but I'm not
going to look for any plausible theories except the one

(23:10):
in my own. I love it, right, I love it,
don't you.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, it's and people have this narrative in their head,
you know. And it's like you said, everybody has their
own opinions one hundred percent factual. We can all have
different opinions about this, thank and not hate each other, right,
because we're all trying to get to the same answer.
But people come up with that they have the narrative

(23:36):
in their head that they want it to be, and
anything that deviates from that is wrong. Even though nobody
has one. I mean, it's all speculation, you know, to
begin with.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I love that answer. I'm going to get you to
hold on right there, Tiffany Dorin or Duran, pardon me,
I'm going to remember Duran, Duran. That's how I'm going
to remember your last name all night long. See, in radio,
it's an old trick as we always try and match
it to things that we know so we never mispronounce.
Tiffany Duran is here on Spaced Out Radio. When we return,

(24:12):
we're going to look into some of the stories she
has heard and experienced in the legend tracking Sasquatch. Next
on the Mighty SR. All right, we'll clear remember our

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audience can hear us. Hello, gorgeous and amazing Kira, hope
you're feeling good tonight. Thank you, Little Dutchy Hank and

(25:04):
who else has joined us.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Here afternoon Tea with Tiffy.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
There's more than one hair hypersonic. Just because you don't
believe in Sasquatch doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm gonna
be on you all night about that, dude, Ah freaking night.
You know why I can because it's my show and
my chat room is a devocracy, not a democracy. And

(25:42):
if you want to call it Davianism. You can too,
oh mm hmmm. I believe in Santa Claus too. You're

(26:05):
oh for two hypersonic number three. I'm gonna really have
to mock you bad. I'm really gonna have to. That's funny,
uh t Bone. I don't know. I thought you could.
I thought you could give to membership st Welcome to

(26:25):
sr chat. I do believe in Santa Claus. I really do.
I'm fifty two years old and I still believe in
Santa Claus. I don't know why, but I refuse, you know,
I just refuse to get rid of the magic.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Oh my gosh, there has to be magic, man, that
has to be. Yeah, it's boring you don't have magic.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Like when I do a show on like going like
from the twenty third to the twenty fourth, I'm literally
up until like one two in the morning watching Norad Santa.
As they announced that Santa is getting ready to leave,
I am like flipping out. I'm damn near waking up.
My kid says Santa's on his way, you know, and
I'm like freaking out. I got I got Nora Ad

(27:16):
Santa tracker on everywhere, and I'm just like, oh, this
is a life fifty two years worth of believing in
Santa Claus and my kid It's weird. I don't know
how it happens, but my children still get gifts from
Santa Claus.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, they still get concern. Would like to know what
kind of necklace you were wearing.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I have a choker because I am an eighties baby
and they will never go out of style. And then
I have this pendant I actually bought from the NC
squatch Watchers at one of the I think they were
in Stanton when I got this. Oh it is a
big foot walk in a unicorn with a UFO hovering ever.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Nice, nice, Yes.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
We got about two minutes to go here. Hey there's
b Arthur, the Golden voice of the Paranormal Portal podcast.
How you doing? B has nothing to do with Jesus
and the resurrection? Nothing? So what's your point? What's your point?
You're oh for three? Now, you're oh for three? That

(28:31):
means I must mock you now, Okay, if you're gonna
post in my chat room, post something that is useful
and credible, not just opinionated opinion is not science. Belief
is not science. Now I must mock you. You probably have
six toes that are webbed. Not insulting anybody who has

(28:55):
web feet or six toes. I'll look that up, PARAMRV
and T Bone, I'll look that up. Thank you for
pointing that out.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, you should be able to because we can on ours.
I'm sorry, I said you should be able to because
we can on ours.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
What have web feet?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Well, I mean you can have we want No, I
meant gifting a membership.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Of course you do, b Arthur, of course. Yeah, I
gotta figure that out. I'll check that out here momentarily.
All right, big thank you tonight to our newest member
Marion on our YouTube, T Bone, my man Gizmo, and
Dutch Hank. Thank you for the love and support. We're
gonna get go in here like five seconds, Here we

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(31:04):
our good friend Tiffany Duran hanging on out with us.
We're gonna get into her bigfoot stories. Next. You got
some books out, tell us about them.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
I do. I have four. My first my genesis in
writing started in twenty fifteen. I have two romance novels out,
and everybody's like, holy jeez, how did you go from
writing romance to writing about like horror fiction and cryptids

(31:41):
and all of that. And my reply is always is saying,
that's a very big leap, right. I started writing I
have Desires of the Heart and Forbid Desires their sequel,
and they're all on Amazon. I wrote those. I started
writing those because I wanted to read a book like that,
and I couldn't find a book like that. So fast forward,

(32:05):
I worked an awful job and I was tired all
the time, and I was anxious, and it was really
taking its toll on me, and so finally Mother's Day
of twenty twenty three, I quit that job and the
next day, see Wayne Tellerowe reached out to me and

(32:27):
he said, hey, would you be interested in writing some
episodes for Paranormal Honesty? And I said, yeah, sure, you know,
just little content, extra fun stuff for the listeners. And
I was like, yeah, sure, that would be fun. A
week later, that is when Brian came sharp reached out

(32:49):
to me and said, hey, I know you're doing this
for Wayne, would you be interested in doing this for
me as well? So I was like, yeah, that would
be great. So that whole summer I closed myself off
in the bedroom and I wrote the Unfamiliars and it
went out as an episode a week and then I

(33:12):
at the same time, I go from writing the Unfamiliars
episode to writing dog Man Arra in the What's episode
for Brian. And at the end of the summer I
had two completed you know books. So Doug Hatchek actually
picked them up in July of the following year, and

(33:36):
it has just been a whirlwind. I mean, I just
I loved pouring myself into those books and being able
to pour myself into those books. So in the Unfamiliars,
you have the whole gamut of things, right. You have Bigfoot,
you have dog men, you have black eyed children, you
have puckwadgies, you have shape shift skin walkers. I mean,

(34:01):
it's if you want to find it, it is in
the Unfamiliars, and dog Man Taire in the Woods is
pretty much you know, dog men and Bigfoot and the
supernatural aspect of both of them that you want to
that you want to find. They're just so fun. But

(34:22):
even though they're fictional. I did do research, especially on
dog Man Taire in the Woods, because when I write something,
I want there to be that realism there, so I
want it to have the encounter, you know, correct, and
their proportions and all of that correct. So what I
also thought would be a good idea at the time

(34:45):
is writing a completely separate ending for the podcast then
is in the book. So if you're a writer, you
know they have to follow a path through the story.
So I completely erased half of each story and rewrote
it to have a different ending from the podcast. And

(35:10):
then I was like, Tiffany, what the heck are you
doing to yourself?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
That is strange, That is totally strange.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, how has this these stories that you have collected
over the years, how has it changed you? And give
us an example of a story that really hit home
with you.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Mmm, I've heard, I've heard many and I don't remember
the person's name, but I think it's they had experienced it,
and it was just the the utter fear, you know,
because I watched Harry and the Henderson's Okay, I wanted Harry.

(35:58):
I wanted to I wanted my own person Harry. You guys, okay,
And I think after hearing his encounter, I think it
changed from being a hairy to realizing that not every
one of them is going to be good, you know.
And it was just the fear. He was a little

(36:21):
he was a little boy in the woods and a blond,
and it reached up and kept grabbing his foot. Some
of y'all might be familiar with this story, but when
he was talking about it, it's the fear in their
eyes and their tone changes and their demeanor, you know.

(36:44):
I mean they saw something and it was not friendly.
So I think that helped me, you know, come to
grips of okay, well, they're all not nice and friendly.
We need to be careful.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Have you ever encountered a sasquatch that you have or
put yourself in a situation that you have feared for
your safety?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I have not, not personally. My husband got the sasquatch experience.
I got the paranormal experience. So how do I have
to say?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
How do you feel about the whole aspect of of
you know, being around in an area where these creatures
are very big, very large, very intimidating.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Well, I just think you have to err on the
sat of caution, you know, especially since he saw one
in the backyard. We don't know where it came from,
We don't know where it went. You always have to
you know, you live in the woods. You have to
air on the sat of caution for anything to be
out there. We have bears and boxes, you know, anything

(38:03):
out there could get you. But knowing they're around, you
do look around a little bit more when you go outside.
I just think you have to be safe, and I
don't think it's any different than what I did before.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Do you think we are safe in the forest.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I think you have dangers anywhere you go. I think
the forest is absolutely one of those places that you could,
you know, especially have to be cautious in But I
think if you, you know, and a lot of people
will carry, you know, to protect themselves, bear, spray, all
that stuff. I think if you go in the woods

(38:48):
thinking that you are not being watched, you're mistaken. I
think you always have to keep your head on a swivel.
I mean, you got crazy people out in the world,
do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, I totally see that, and I understand that. I mean,
you don't know if there's somebody following you, if you
have like rogue people in the forest who just you know,
maybe they have, you know, a moonshine lab in the
forest that they don't want your territory. I know, paranormal
investigators up here who have you know, gone up into

(39:24):
areas where there are known hauntings and they've had guns
pulled on them because people are afraid that their gold
mining claims are going to be stolen, you know, And
it's like the wild wild West still up here regarding them.
I mean, you have to be careful for everything in
your environment. But should we fear cryptids?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I don't know. I think you have to keep in
mind that. In my opinion, this is just my opinion
They're much like people. So you have your good people
and you have your bad people. And I don't think
that we should look at any of them and lump

(40:06):
them all in the same thing as you know, friendly
for his giants, you know, I think you have to
be very careful. I think there's a line.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Let's talk about your paranormal experiences. Okay, how personal have
they got?

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Well, they were in my bedroom, so pretty personal. So
and I don't understand what the correlation is between bigfoot
and paranormal. We've moved in here in twenty nineteen, never
experienced anything until twenty twenty one when he had his encounter.

(40:48):
And it was almost immediately after. I was off work
that day. It was a Saturday. Our youngest daughter was
asleep up here in her room, and we had two
dogs at the time. So my routine when I'm off
work is I let the dogs out to run because
we have a fenced in yard, and I fixed my coffee,

(41:12):
come upstairs, get back in the bed. I'm on my phone,
I have the TV on, and I hear pacing in
the hallway. No big deal, right, Carrie's awake. My daughter's awake,
except she wasn't. I texted her and I said, hey,
do you need anything, you know, let me know nothing.

(41:33):
She didn't answer me. She didn't even open the text message.
So I was like, okay. So shortly after that, you
know how when a child runs up the stairs, they
do it really heavy, and it's like, that's what I heard.
So at this point in time, I'm not in this

(41:56):
world yet. So I'm a chicken, the biggest chicken, and
I'm in the bed and I'm gripping my coffee cup
and I'm like, oh my god, never leaving this room
because I texted her again. She didn't answer me, she
didn't open the text message. And I'm like, well, maybe

(42:17):
it was the dogs. Maybe it was the dogs running
up the deck steps, except the deck steps are on
the opposite side of where this sound came from. These
this stomping was right outside the bedroom door. And again,
like I said, she you know, I texted my daughter.
She never answered me, she never opened the text message.

(42:41):
So I'm freaking out. Then I hear the pacing start again,
and it was like something had walked up to the
bedroom door. Because we have creaky floors, so it was
like something had walked up to the I'm chicken to
the bedroom door, and it took gets fingernail and ran

(43:01):
it from our the middle of our door straight down
to the carpet. Day I'm yeah, I'm like committed at
this point, I'm never leaving my bedroom ever because I
can't explain that I don't know what that is. So

(43:26):
then eventually, I mean, Carrie did come up and out
of her bedroom. But I'm gonna tell you the level
of fear in my body, in my heart and soul
when my door knob started to turn off the chart
because I thought for sure I was dying right there
and it was her and I was like, how, let
me beep been awake? And she was like I just

(43:48):
got up, and I'm like, I have no idea what
any of that was. That was the beginning. We've had
the phantom smells, you know, cigarette smoke, the perfume smell,
and I always liken that smell to white Diamonds by

(44:10):
Elizabeth Taylor. We've had that in our den, and that
is you know, it's the strangest thing when you walk
into a room. I don't smoke now, only my family smokes, right,
So you walk into this room and this this patch
of cigarette smoke huts you in your face the scent,

(44:32):
and you're like, and we tried to debunk that too.
So my husband knew the girl that he bought the
house from, well she didn't smoke. So then I'm like, okay,
well if the previous owners before her smoked, that would
be over three years, right, And it doesn't happen all
the time. You don't smell the cigarette smoke all the time.

(44:53):
You don't smell the perfume all the time. So I'm like, well,
it couldn't be in the paneling then if you if
you notice back here behind me, I have this obsession
with giraffes. Okay, So in our dining room we have statues,
little statues of giraffes, and they would be turned a

(45:16):
certain way and I'm OCD, so they have to be
facing a certain way. They would be turned around. I
have a corner hutch in our dining room and it
has three stuffed giraffes on it, so they're all facing
the same way. Except one day, what I deem to
be the daddy giraffe, his head was completely turned the

(45:39):
opposite way. How do you I can't explain that.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Nothing creepy about that?

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Nothing creepy, there, nothing at all. Let me tell you
this one and this one. I was like, I don't,
I don't and I don't understand it. So you feel
free to give me your opinion. Okay. So we were
laying in bed, I was asleep, and we have led

(46:08):
lights around our room, okay, and at that time we
used him. We don't use them now, but they would
always stay on, like a light blue or royal blue
color because that was my favorite. So around two or
two thirty in the morning, my husband jolted out of bed.
The room's completely red, and my picture that has my

(46:33):
college diploma is laying in the floor. But when he
woke up, he said he fell a presence in the
room and he was ready to fight. He was just
ready to I mean, you know, you go to bed
in your room is like this really calm, relaxing blue,
and you wake up to this loud crash and it's red.

(46:55):
Answer me this, Why did it not wake me up?
Why did it just win come up? I slept through everything,
had no idea anything happened, none at all. And you
hear that in big foot encounter stories too. They'll hear
something they're going out for this purpose, but then they

(47:17):
go in their tent and they go to sleep. It
doesn't make it.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, how do you not panic in that situation?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
I think because at that point in time, we had
dealt with different, you know, issues with the paranormal happenings
here at the house. And he had called me that day.
The next day and I was at work, and he said, hey,
I'm just letting you know when you come home on
your lunch break and you go up to the bedroom.
I left everything as it was so you could see it.

(47:53):
So when I go up to the bedroom, sure enough,
you know my picture or my deployment is in the floor.
Apparently what had happened is if it had fallen from
the wall, and they're gonna be like pictures fall all
the time. No, no, no, no. This picture frame you

(48:15):
had to lift up to be able to get it
off of the nail, and it had hung there for
four years. All I did was dust it. So, but
that picture frame had come off the wall, hit our
HomePod that we had hit the dresser and then crashed
into the floor. And like I said, at this point,
we had had several instances with ghosties, paranormal, So I

(48:42):
picked up the picture frame, and I said aloud, look,
if you're going to live here perfect, please quit breaking
my stuff right, yes, stop. But you know, we have grandchildren,

(49:04):
and at this time we didn't have the seven we had.
We had four in our house. They can run a
complete circle from the foyer to the dining room and
back again and again and again. But every single one
of those little boys, we'll look up at the top
of our stairs back then and say that there was
a man standing at the top of the stairs, every

(49:27):
single one of them.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
What do you look like?

Speaker 3 (49:30):
They well, you see, because they were small, right, so
they wouldn't they wouldn't give any descriptions. It was just
a man. And one of my grandsons would call him Starman,
and he would come and ask me. They had come
over for dinner one night and I was in the
kitchen at the stove and he walked up to me

(49:51):
and he said, Nana, we're Starman. And I'm like, I mean,
there's not a star Man here. But he was adamant
there was a star Man upstairs. That's what he decided
to call him.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Maybe he wasn't a ghost.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
I've tossed that around to you, like I don't know, I don't.
I don't know any any explanation. I mean, I'm all ears.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Here's what I know. A lot of First Nations Indigenous
people refer to alien beings as star people.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Mm.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
So the fact that they were that he was calling
this being starman, I mean, it's literally either Paul Stanley
from Kiss or or I mean.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Or.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Maybe he this entity that he is seeing isn't so
formerly human after all.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Yeah, it's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I would investigate that. If I were you, I totally
think you'd be onto something there, and you might you
might get a little tripped out by what the answers are.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I know, maybe I'd be afraid to go to sleep
at night.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Is that the fear is the fear?

Speaker 3 (51:18):
No? No, I just I don't know what it is.
I always took him as, you know, ghosts, and then
he named it.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
He named it, Oh, what do you name it?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Well, the starman? I mean I always refer to them
as ghosties, right, he put the starman name on it.
So I was like, is it glowing? Is this is
why you think he looks like a starman because he's glowing? Like,
do I have a glowing man living in my house?

(51:54):
So I don't know. I did research. Our house isn't old,
you know, our house was built in nineteen seventy two.
So I was like, well, that can't be it. So
I was talking to a friend of mine and she said,
well to me, maybe it's not your house. Maybe it's
the land that your house is on. And I was like, well,

(52:15):
that's a good point. So there were Native Americans that
lived in this area. So I cannot remember the name
of the tribe. It starts with an M, I think,
but yeah, they were back thousands of years. So then
I was like, great, I bet you our house is

(52:38):
smack Dad on a burial ground. You start thinking all
kinds of things. But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Is it only the grandson that is seeing this entity?

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Yes, it was just the grandsons now, and they were
over here today. I mean, this specific one wasn't but
we had before. Of the seven over today, none of
them say anything about it, none of them. It's like
they always say, kids can see, you know, beyond the veil.

(53:15):
Our grandsons don't see it anymore. And we haven't really
experienced a whole lot of quote unquote weird happenings here recently,
so maybe it went away. I don't know, but yeah,
that conversation that stopped. The older they got, they didn't

(53:38):
see him anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
That is so interesting because I mean with kids, I mean,
do you think you're that your grandchild is intuitive?

Speaker 3 (53:51):
He may uh, he may be. I know that one
of our grandsons is border line AUSI stick, so he
may be as well. And they just pick up on
things differently.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I would agree, they definitely do. And that's the beautiful
part about kids. If you just let them go, man,
you never know what they're gonna talk about. We're gonna
talk about when we come back from the break here
at the top of the hour, some of the great
ghost stories that Tiffany has heard over the years, not
just experience, but she loves these topics. She's investigating them.

(54:33):
We're gonna get into that next. We'll take somebody it's
questions an hour or two as well. This is face
out here with hopes. All right, Tiffany, I'm gonna put

(54:58):
you back in the green room. We about five and
a half minutes and I'll be right back, Okay, cool,
all right, and Para Marv and t Bone. I have
been looking on trying to turn that thing on. I
can't seem to it's not working for me. I don't
know what I'm doing wrong, don't know. I will try
and figure it out. Oh, there we go. Well that's

(55:24):
for me. Okay, that's mine. I'll have to figure that out. Yeah,
I'll get to it. I'll be right back.

Speaker 7 (56:06):
US USA, USA, USUS.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
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every night right here on spaced Out Radio. Let's get
to our guests. She's an author, she's a researcher, she's
a paranormal investigator, been doing it for a number of years,
and here she is to talk about some great paranormal stories.
Tiffany Duran is here. Thank you so much for joining

(01:02:27):
us tonight, Tiffany, We really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
It's an honor to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Are you having fun?

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
I am having fun? I am it is it is one.
I'm seven in the morning where I am and there's
no place I could think that I'd rather be at
one o'clock in the morning than talking about Garrison monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Right, I mean, get out. See that's what we do
around here. This is the happiness we bring. This is
totally the happiness we bring. You know, you just can't
find it anywhere else. You can't, I know, you know,
so thank you for being a great, great guest tonight.
What do you think the paranormal is? Do you think

(01:03:09):
it's ghosts? Do you think it's aliens? Do you do
you think it's some sort of spirit activity? What do
you think it is?

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Well, paranormal is I think anything not normal? Right? Anything abnormal?
I mean some people, I guess in the field that
we are in, you would say paranormal always links to
ghosts and spirits and apparitions. But I think if you

(01:03:39):
take the true meaning of that word, it could be
ghosts and spirits and apparitions, but it could also be
aliens and bigfoot and dog men because they're they're abnormal.
They're not something in your every day or everybody's every day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
See, we talked about you know, bigfoot being either flesh
and blood or whether it's you know, some sort of
supernatural type creature. Same could be said with spirits, and ghosts.
We really don't know what they are. We can assume
that it is you know, family members or loved ones
or friends who've passed over, you know, who are coming

(01:04:20):
to say hello, or say you live in an older
house like you do, or I do you know my
house is built in nineteen seventy two as well, and
you know there is spirit activity in my house as well,
So you kind of run through the gamut of you know,
who could be here, who could be hanging around. But
in reality, we don't know, We really don't know. And

(01:04:44):
yet in the paranormal we seem to take it for
granted that paranormal means ghosts and spirits.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Your thoughts on that, no, I would agree, that's how
you know we have here recently we've just had bigfoot encounters.
But back when we were Paranormal Odyssey, we had you know,
the paranormal researchers, and that was what they discussed, was
their research, going into you know, the asylums and setting

(01:05:16):
out you know, rampods and talking to ghosts on the
spirit bops or my favorite and I would do I
don't know if I would. I want to do it.
I can say that because I'm here in my office
talking to you, and I'm saying I want to go
to an asylum and do the estes method. But I

(01:05:40):
don't know if I want to be the one wearing
the headphones or if I want to be the one
asking the questions. I haven't figured that out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Do you want a good estas Method story? Yeah, So
outd our spot in the forest where we had a
lot of activity, I put my partner Tim under the
Estest method for his first time, right in the middle

(01:06:09):
of the forest. And this came right after we started
hearing voices in the forest trying to lure us in.
A woman saying help me, I'm over here, Can you
come here? Help me? And then a man's voice started up,

(01:06:34):
We're over here, help me, come help us. And I
said to Tim, I said, nope, nope, that's skinwalker when
to go type stuff. I ain't dealing with that, not
going there whatsoever. So we put Tim under the Estest
method and he had never done it before, and within

(01:06:58):
a minute he is lighting up like like anything, and
he is making up all these words that are coming
out at him. He's pronouncing him and then all of
a sudden it starts getting a little aggressive, and eventually

(01:07:20):
the f bombs start coming through, and then it says, Dave, now,
remember it's just him and I. There, it's just him
and I and we have it on recording on our
YouTube channel, spaced Out Radio in a section called Secrets
of the Forest. And it was an episode that came

(01:07:43):
out about three weeks ago. It's still our biggest episode.
It's got like twelve thousand views now. And and we
the spirit says I know you, and I said, so,
I'm standing about fifteen twenty feet from Tim. I say,

(01:08:04):
how do you know me? Your dreams? And I tell you, man,
I have never goosebumped so hard in my life when
that happened, because I was like, oh, my goodness, no.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
That's a whole bunch of no thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Oh and by the way, as this is going on,
the help Me voice has now moved from our three
o'clock to our eleven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah. That was probably the scariest thing. Not so much
the estest method, but those voices were probably the scariest
thing that's ever happened to me because I never thought
I would hear that, and having Tim there and him
hearing these voices too. It was like, man, how does

(01:09:05):
that happen?

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
You can't excuse it away at that point. That's what
makes it so terrifying.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
Oh yeah, if it's if it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
You, especially if you're around water, you can be like, oh, well,
that's just what that is. It just sounds like voices.
It just sounds like words. But if we're with a
person and they're hearing what you're hearing, you cannot excuse
it away at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
The two reasons why I knew it wasn't a human.
The voices were completely monotone. There was no emotion in it,
and if somebody was in trouble, they would have been
showing emotion in their voices. There would have been screaming,
the sounding of struggling, you know. But and then the
second part was when the voices move from four o'clock

(01:09:56):
to three o'clock, the lady voice said help me or
I'm over here whatever, and then said I love you,
and then started saying help us. We're over here again.
And that's where I looked at Timba, like, no, we
are not going over there. That's where I draw the line.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
No see, and that it hits so close to home now,
we've always taught our children to never open the door.
If somebody is outside yelling for help, just call the police,
because you don't know what the intention is. Right, you
want to be kind of compassionate and go out there

(01:10:44):
and see what's wrong with him. But nowadays you can't.
You can't do that. It's just not comfortable because somebody
could just snatch you. Right. So, when all of this
was going on in twenty twenty one, that's the main
thing that our daughter would tell us is she would
hear in the front of our house somebody saying help me.

(01:11:08):
I don't know what it was. I don't know what
it was. But Zach heard the same thing. My husband
heard the same thing coming from the backyard. And here
it's pitch dark, when it's dark on a mountain, oh dark,
And I'm like, you can't go outside. You're gonna die,

(01:11:30):
you know, like you hear a voice saying help me
in the dark and the bottom of our yard in
the corner, you're gonna die. Please don't go outside. What
is his natural inclination though? Being a paramedic, somebody's in distress,
I gotta make sure they're okay. That's my job. So

(01:11:51):
what's he doing. He goes outside and there's nothing there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Do you think that we're actually running into ghosts or
do you think that we're actually the ghost to them
on their timeline?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
I love that theory. I love that we had what
is his name, Mike Rick Sucker?

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
I think it was ye, Mike Ricksecker, good guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Yes, we had him on our show and he talked
about that. He was like, what if what if they're
not the ghosts? What if they think we are? So
when we talk to them and they respond through the boxes,
what if they think you know, what if they're doing

(01:12:46):
the same thing and we're talking to them. I love
that theory. I mean, like I said, I'm a curious person,
so I want to get to the bottom of everything.
So so I'm down for all the theories and everybody's
opinions and everybody's ideas. And that's one of my favorite ones.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
I always wonder I always wonder about that. You have
ghosts on your property, You've heard them speak, you've heard
them interact. What's that like to all of a sudden
pick up on that conversation and tell us how it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
It's weird. It's weird. Dave. I was sitting in the
dining room one day and it was afternoon, and I
think Saxon he was in there with me, and I
heard two men having a conversation. I could hear their
voices off to my left. I thought it was my

(01:13:46):
neighbor's talking. So when I looked outside, there's nobody outside,
and if they were outside, if if it were my
neighbors talking, I would have been able to see them
with how close I heard voices. So it was on
my left side, kind of up a little bit. You

(01:14:06):
can't make out words, but I could distinctly tell that
it was two grown men. But it was garbled conversation,
but it was clear that there was conversation going on
between these two men. It's very different, I would say.

(01:14:27):
I mean, you just don't expect to be you know,
it's almost like hearing the TV from a distance and
you hear, you know, people talking on the TV. That's
almost what it's like, but you know that's not the case.
So then I started thinking, well, am I intuitive Am
I hearing something you know? Or is there really you know?

(01:14:48):
I don't know. It's always been confusing to me, but
it's very odd to hear those voices when you're not
expecting it and there's nobody around that's going to be
you know, our house or outside of you know what
I mean. It's weird when.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
You hear other strange men's voices in your house. You're
automatically wondering is there a burglar? Or is the TV loud?
Is the radio on? Is there some YouTube channel? I mean,
you have to go through an entire list of things
that happened, because immediately, I know, like if I heard
other dudes talking to my house, I'm going to be wondering, Okay,

(01:15:27):
where's my pointy stick? And do I have to defend
myself here? You know, And that's kind of the way
you look at it at times. I mean, how did
this affect you when you first heard this?

Speaker 8 (01:15:43):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Well, it catches you off guard and you really do
have to go through that process of elimination. You know,
our dining room is relatively close to the living room.
If it was the TV, you would be able to
hear words you wantn't just hear you know, the voice,
because it was almost like a mumbly male, you know,

(01:16:05):
you know, speaking voice. The TV wasn't on, you know,
if it was upstairs, you would still be able to
you know, tell you know that you would be able
to make out words. This is what was doing. It
was you know, you have to go through the process
of elimination to rule things out. There wasn't anything on.

(01:16:30):
There wasn't any other men in our house except that
there wasn't anybody outside.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Have you heard them since?

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
No, I haven't heard them since.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
So you think they were just kind of passing through
or do you think that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
I've thought about that. I thought that maybe it was just,
you know, they're just traveling and I just happened to
And why did I pick up on the voices? You know?
Do I have something some kind of intuitive stuff? I mean,
is this why my grandsons can see these things? I've

(01:17:11):
ran through every scenario since twenty twenty one, every scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
T Bone wants to know if you've ever had alien encounters.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
No, that is something I have not had. As an
alien encounter. I have not experienced that. I have not
seen a UFO that I'm aware of. I haven't seen
any orbs, just bigfoot and ghosties.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Oh they're coming, They're coming. I'm just gonna tell you.
All of a sudden you're gonna call me up one
day and you're gonna be like, Dave, you were right.
I got aliens. And the reason why I said, I
don't say that in jest or to bug you, or

(01:18:03):
to put an omen on you or anything like that.
But the phenomena always gives you everything you want, or
even if you don't want it, it tests you. Mine
started off very paranormal, then it went to Bigfoot, and
then the UFOs came, and then eventually a few months later,

(01:18:25):
the aliens came. Now you may not get the aliens
or think you don't got aliens, but they might be
right there with you and you don't even know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Yeah, you know what I do want to experience because
I'm weird. I want to go okay, like we're ten
minutes from the Blue Ridge Parkway. I want to experience
the orbs so bad. I want to know what they are.

(01:18:55):
People always say they see either the white ones or
the blue ones are the ones. I would love to
see one, just because I want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
What do you think the orbs are?

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Oh my god, I don't know. There's so many things
that we have heard, you know, just they're spaceships that
are like shrunk down.

Speaker 6 (01:19:23):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
I don't think that's it. I don't think that's it
in my opinion. I mean, don't come for me, but
I just don't think that's what it is. Drones. You know,
we had Gabe Lenner on and we interviewed him and
we was talking about the orbs there, but I don't know.
I couldn't one tell you. They're fascinating as I'll get out, though.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
I don't like the little ones that could be, you know,
described as sort of dust particles or or whatever you ca.
What I like is I like the big, big, giant orbs.
I remember my old hometown there was a river with
a pretty famous river called the Fraser River that my
patio used to look over the river and into what

(01:20:14):
they call the Fraser Valley, and we had some friends
over and all of a sudden, we watch out of nowhere,
probably I'm going to say, a couple thousand feet above
the river, not high, like, not like four or five
thousand feet, and this giant white orb was following the

(01:20:35):
river and we're watching this, We're watching it. We watched
for about five six minutes, and then we watched it
right at almost eye level from where we are because
you know, I was a couple thousand feet up up
the mountain, okay, watching this, and all of a sudden,
it takes a ninety degree turn south, then does a

(01:20:59):
complete one and then goes high in the sky and
drops and right where it would have dropped there, we
know there would have been a lake there and just
this giant orb. I mean it literally looked like, oh,
what was the name of the good witch in was

(01:21:19):
it Gildad Glenda? It looked like Glenda's orb, except white
coming down the river and then all of a sudden,
ninety degrees watered and eighty degrees down into the lake.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
So what do you think do you think that there
are UFOs uips under that ocean?

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Well? Good question, Thanks, good question, considering this is my
show and I'm the one who asked questions here. Sorry,
I'm teasing. We got two minutes ago before we go
to break here. Tiffany Duran. Duran is our guest we
call or the reflex around home. I like that, by

(01:22:04):
the way. I think that's funny. I'm stupid that way.
But I'm just going to say this, and my audience
is going to roll their eyes at me because I
say it all the time. There is a major difference
that people refuse to admit to between what a UFO
is at a UAP uap or man made objects UFOs

(01:22:28):
are not and do I believe and the sooner we
get this UAP garbage out of our vocabulary, we're going
to be better off for it in trying to figure
out what true disclosure is and not government disclosure. That's
my opinion, because I don't believe in government disclosure. But

(01:22:49):
that's a rant for another day. The orbs, I'm not
sure what they are. I've seen orbs in my house,
real orbs, not the kindy catch on camera the like
real orbs. I've seen them outside. I think a lot
of them are et or spiritual, but I don't believe.

(01:23:12):
You know, when somebody puts a camera up and it's nighttime,
they take a picture and there's like four eighty six
orbs in the air, Okay, that could be a misty night.
It could be snow, it could be bugs, it could
be dampness, it could be anything. I want to see.
The giant orbs, the ones that are that are lit up,

(01:23:36):
you know, in different colors, the blue, the red, the green.
I mean I remember sitting at my friend's house in
a meditation and watching a golf ball sized reddish orange
orb come right out of like literally, it floated right
into the middle of the doorway, came out of the
doorway right towards me. It was about to touch my

(01:23:58):
friend's elbow, and then I went to touch it and
it disappeared. Yeah, Tiffany Duran another half hour at spaced
Out Radio. You're listening to the space Out with your

(01:24:20):
host Dave Scott. All right, we're clear, Okay. I like

(01:24:44):
the orbs, but I like the big ones. I like
big orbs, and I cannot lie. Sylva, gonna know how
you doing. H T Bone, thank you, thank you for
that second, lovely super chat, my man. Greatly appreciate your

(01:25:04):
love and support. Hard to believe. We're almost done now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
There's only thirty minutes left.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Technically it'll be about twenty three and a half minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
I mean, right, there's only twenty three and a half
minutes left.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Yeah, well right now, there'd be like twenty nine and
a half. But yeah, getting closer.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Yeah, it's been fun.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Thank you. M I try and make it so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
You do make it so much fun.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
All Day, Supremo, When is the next episode of our
videos coming up? We're going to do it on Sunday.
We're going to be doing them every two weeks. And
the reason why, once again for people curious about our
videos on Secrets of the Forest, we're going to be
doing them every two weeks because from November until April
we're not going to be able to film anything due

(01:26:22):
to the snow, and probably end in November we might
have to shut it down depending on the snow in
that area, which would mean that we would have like
four or five months without episodes. We figure if we
put instead of putting them out every week, if we

(01:26:42):
put them out every two weeks, that way we should
be able to cover some of that wintertime filming for
us so and it gives Tim a little bit more
time to get the videos organized and edited the way
he wants and because he's pretty damn good with that. Yeah,

(01:27:10):
if you want to see the fun we're doing on
our YouTube channel, go to Secrets of the Forest Gorgeous.
Kim Jellen, I'm not afraid of snow, it's just driving
when it gets like really deep, like when you you
don't want to be in the forest. When it gets
like two two three feet of snow three four feet

(01:27:33):
of snow, then you kind of get stuck. And there's
no cell phone service out there, so when you're stuck,
you got to walk back. At times, Kurt, the snow
out there will get to like four five six feet. Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Drive in snow. I don't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
It's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
I don't. I got stuck on a heel that was
see it for me. I got stuck on a hill
like this, that was done. I'm no longer driving it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
I don't know own snowmobiles. And I refused to snowshoe
did it once. I hated it. Hated snowshoeing. People say
it's great. No, it's not fun. It's not fun.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
I don't have a winch on my jeep. And with
our logging roads because they built fire brakes, there are
no trees to tie on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Mm hmmm. I'm usually a summer girl, but I'm telling
you this. He is killing me this year.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Do you have air conditioning?

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yes, Cherry Electric Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Usually there's only about three weeks a year, two if
that that. We need air conditioning here and haven't needed
it yet. We just brought out the fans. But what's
really cool about going into August up where I live,
is we're gonna start getting really hot days, but really

(01:29:24):
cool nights. Like we're talking like a couple degrees above freezing.

Speaker 6 (01:29:30):
Oh wow, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
I love those nights. You open up your window, your
pillow is always cold. It's perfect, perfect, hold on right there.
Thank you to t Bone with a pair, Gizmo and
Dutch Hank for the amazing super chance. Thank you Marian
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(01:30:23):
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(01:31:06):
about twenty three and a half minutes, Well more like
twenty two minutes. All right, here's Tiffany Duran. Duran. Her
husband calls her the Reflex. She's an author, she's a researcher,
she's an experiencer of the unknown. We appreciate you coming
on in tonight, Tiffany.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Always always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Where can people find your books?

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
You can find them Amazon dot com, Hanger one Publishing
dot com, The Unfamiliars and Dogmentary in the Woods absolutely
Hanger one publisher dot com. They are on Amazon dot
com as well, Arnsandoble dot com. Anywhere that you buy
your favorite books online, you can find mine. You not

(01:31:53):
to ask that you check them out. I'm a little biased,
but they're really good.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Don't blame you, don't blame you. We appreciate you sharing that.
What's the scariest paradormal story you've been told?

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
I have it in this book if I may read
it to you, so I don't show it up. Okay,
I have, let's see, I just saw it's my page.
But here it is. This is one of the and
it's it has to deal with us like yeah, record,
okay and y'all. I'm sure I have heard so many

(01:32:33):
like this, but I don't again, I don't want to
mess it up. One day I worked with a recent
graduate from a local school of nursing. He had been
working at Broughton since he was a CNA and now
was a registered nurse. He told me several things that
happened to him during his tour of duty. One day,

(01:32:57):
he and a fellow assistant who is now retired. We're
working on a ward when the other fellow decided to
eat his sandwich quickly because he was so hungry. As
he was standing in the doorway of the breakroom eating
and monitoring the hall, he saw a patient and a
yellow gown go down the hall and into a patient's bedroom.

(01:33:19):
The assistant yelled for the now arin to come and
check it out with him. Together they ran down the
hall to see who was up at that time of night.
After checking the room, the elusive patient went into and
then every bedroom on that ward they found no patient
up or awake, and none of them were wearing a

(01:33:40):
yellow gown.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Creepy colored gown were they wearing?

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Obviously not a yellow one. The ghost here was wearing
a yellow gown. But I think it's so creepy, right,
and I think the I think the Parani. Some more
stories that get me the most are just that you have.
Oh my gosh, I'm telling you, if it wasn't almost

(01:34:09):
two o'clock in the morning, i'd be able to tell
you Brushy Mountain.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
Brushy Mountain, you know, I remember, remember, I don't know
if you had it down there, but up here they
would always do, like on Friday and Saturday nights, late night,
like we're talking like eleven o'clock starts, they would do
these documentaries on America's toughest prisons, and the Brushy Mountain

(01:34:34):
episodes were always my favorite. They did like six eight
weeks at Brushy Mountain, and you know, I remember they
were talking about one guy's execution and then he got
like the big the big rock wall built into a hillside,
and you know, it's like thirty five forty foot wall
of granite rock and everything, and nobody's ever got out.

(01:34:55):
I'm not a big fan of the parent normal tourism
traps like Waverley Hills or Gettysburg or Alcatraz. Not saying
that I wouldn't want to visit there because the history
for the history, But Brushy Mountain just seems like a

(01:35:15):
totally different ballgame all together.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Yes, we have heard several encounter stories from there, and
the main one that gets me, and it scares me
to death, is there was a girl walking into Brushy Mountain. Okay,
so when she's in there, there's you know, other investigators around, Okay,

(01:35:44):
but this dark she said, it was darker than black,
like rushed her, almost like get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
You know? I don't. I don't unders stand, but I would.
I don't want to say I would love to see
the hat man, but it's almost, you know, eerily reminiscent
of just that dark evil get out, just rushing up
to you. Don't. I don't know how I do that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
I don't know how to do it either. I don't
know how I would even handle that. I find, though
I will say this from personal experience, I find that
the more I time I spend outside in the forest
looking at our one area for cryptids, especially the less

(01:36:39):
and less. I'm fearful of ghosts.

Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Ghosts is like. And I don't mean this insultively to
paranormal investigators because I'm not a good paranormal investigator. I've
never been a paranormal investigator, but just from my own
experience about putting myself in that position, you know, investigating
paranormal is like drinking diet coke. You want the sugar rush,

(01:37:07):
but you'll never get it right. And then you get
into cryptids and aliens and it's like a whole different
ballgame of energy, you know, and it's so much, you know,
I mean the fact that there could be something out
there that could literally rip your arm off and beat
the tar out of you with it. I look at

(01:37:30):
that as the ultimate death. If I could go out
one way, you know, you'll hear, guys, I want to
go out with a harem of women in lingerie and
thigh high stockings and high heels. No, man, I want
Bigfoot to rip my arm off and beat the tar
out of me with it. Because when I enter the
gates with Saint Peter and he looks at me and says,

(01:37:52):
what the heck happened to you? I got bragging rights.
I got bragging rights. I do.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
People who watch shows are like, what is wrong with
these people? But it's so true, right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
You know? I mean sure I could fantasize about anything,
you know, playing a game of hockey and having a
heart attack on the ice. Oh, that wouldn't be bad.
It would still suck, you know, because it'd probably they'd
probably go down the ice and score on a five
on four and then I'm minus one while I'm dead. Okay,
that's not good for the statistics. I can't do that,

(01:38:32):
you know. So I just look at it like I
don't want to die by dog man. Okay, that just
looks scary.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
No, I'm just Erica is like, now if it was
Katy Perry though, No, I'm over Katy Perry, just for
the record, after she was caught having a dinner date
with our former deer leader up here, who nobody likes, okay,
who had a disapproval rating before he step down, and

(01:39:09):
she's going out on him. I've lost it now. I
have no love and feeling for Katie Perry anymore, none, none.
Would I want a gugway to do it? Maybe yeah,
gugway sasquatch. I'll tell you a freaky story. This just

(01:39:29):
happened this past Saturday. Our audience they if they haven't
heard yet, I'll fill them in because there's always new
people tuning in. Uh huh, okay, we had. We've added
Tim and I have added a local First Nations lady
to our team to come out and investigate. In the

(01:39:50):
past couple of weeks, she's been singing and drumming in
the forest. So this past weekend, Tim, who does all
of our camera where he couldn't make and so Lollie
and I go out there and no cameras know nothing.
Let's just go for a spiritual time. You know what

(01:40:12):
I'm saying. See what happens so daytime. Oh, it's so
common friendly around here. This is so interesting. I don't
know what's going to be if it's going to be
very active. I said, wait till dusk, and so dusk hits.
She all of a sudden says, I got the feeling

(01:40:36):
like I need to sing a song and drum Are
you okay with that? I said, absolutely, So she sings
this beautiful song while drumming, and the feeling that I
got from it because I'm not First Nation, so I
don't have any understanding of the of the song's meanings
or whatever. And after she was done, she paused, She

(01:41:00):
back sits down, puts a drum on her lap, and
I said, that was beautiful. I said, that had the
feeling that it was a welcoming song for the spirits
and the cryptids around. She goes, that's exactly what it was,
that was the meaning behind it. So I was kind
of happy that I was able to pick that up.

(01:41:22):
And We're sitting there for about ten to fifteen minutes
and probably about fifty sixty yards in front of us
into the trees where if we're at high noon, we're
usually at about eleven o'clock at that distance because that's
where our gifting site is, and you have to kind
of go around through the trails. All of a sudden,

(01:41:44):
it's like somebody took a Louisville slugger to a tree.
Bang bang. Now I've heard wood knocking before, I have
never heard wood knocking that close, and scared the daylights
out of me completely. I jumped out of the chair

(01:42:07):
because I have a pointy stick with me, not that
I would use it with sasquatch. But in case it
is a grizzly bear or a black bear or a moose,
three of the big animals in our forest that could
hurt us badly. And I was that a branch cracking?
Or is that bang bang? She goes, oh, that was

(01:42:29):
bang bang. I said, hit your drum, match it, and
so she bangs it, and I said, I said, the
reason why I asked you to do that was because
if it is an animal, it will let them know
our presence. If it isn't an animal and it's our friend,
maybe he'll bang back. So nothing happens. After she bangs

(01:42:50):
it second time, third time, she drums bang bang, and
all of a sudden, over by my gifting site, now
you hear something rushing through the trees for about two
three seconds and then it disappears or that goes silent again.
I'm like, bang again, bang bang, nothing, bang again, bang

(01:43:11):
bang nothing. Okay, it's gone silent, right. I am never
outside of that time when we heard those voices, that
one scared me. That one scared me bad because it
was so abrupt and violent, like what I would perceive

(01:43:32):
as violent. And look, when it comes to sports, I
like a little bit of violence I do. I like
a good hockey fight, a good body check, you know,
to outfielders at baseball running into each other trying to
chase down a flyball. I like that stuff. Okay, guys
sliding into second hard to break up a double play,
that's me football. I like a good tackle, you know.

(01:43:56):
But this was scary, absolutely scary, because I didn't expect it.
It totally caught me off guard.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
Yeah, we had Jim, Jim Peterson, Joe Jenkins try to
say that fast you can't. And I had played their
audio and that's exactly what it sounds like. It was
very loud, and I said the same thing you just did.
As soon as I finished that audio clip, I was like,

(01:44:30):
and that was the Louisville slugger up against the tree
because it was very hard and it was very loud,
and it was seemingly right beside their recorder. I don't know.
I don't get them. I just I don't you know what.
I want to know. What do they mean? What do

(01:44:52):
the tree structures mean? Where do they go? If you're
following a pathway and all of a sudden the tracks
just stop and disappear. These are the questions I don't
want to answers to like, do they go into a
quote unquote portal? I mean, if the substrate's the same,

(01:45:16):
you would think that the footprints would still be there.
Or you find one loan track nothing else. Are they
just hopping around on one foot?

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
Many First Nations people in my area believe they're walking
in separate dimensions at once.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Hm. That's interesting, Yeah, because you hear them, you hear
of them. You know, we were following this pathway and
then all of a sudden it just stopped, or you know,
you could have tracks and then all of a sudden
there's a log. Well maybe instead of walking, you know,

(01:45:57):
they started walking on the log to keep there from
being any traps. Just so many questions.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
They are and men, magnificent creature, you know, And the
question is what else is out there? Is it dog men?
Is it little people? Is it gnomes? Is it you know,
the fairies? Is it other creatures from the fairy realm?
We really don't know, you know. I mean, if you

(01:46:27):
have one, do you have them all in the same area?

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Right? Is there turf w I know in Dogmnaria in
the woods there's the turf for you know, Bigfoot stay
in one area, dog men's stay in the other area.
Is that how it is in real life? I mean,
because they share the same habitat right, they have to
run into each other eventually. What happens when they run

(01:46:52):
into each other? Do they do get out or they
just tip their hat and say, hey, I have a
good day, man, I'm going this way. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
I don't know either. I really, I really do not
get it. I do not understand it, you know. But
the one thing about Bigfoot, and I hope, and I'll
say this publicly, even though I'm out looking for an
encounter each and every weekend, I really hope the mystery

(01:47:27):
is never solved. Yeah, I really don't. I want this
creature to stay elusive, to stay, you know, just that
two or three steps ahead of what we are doing.
I just want to maybe it's the majesty of the
the legend. I don't want to know if they've if

(01:47:51):
they have them in captivity. I don't want to know
if they've dissected them, or or you know, we haven't
found a body. You know, for the most part, we
could sit there and say, no, they don't exist unless
you've seen one or seen the evidence, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
I think it's the magic. It's the magic. If you
find it, the magic's gone. But I think, to truly,
we are not the only things on this earth. We
just aren't. We aren't the only beings that walk in
the forest. We just are not. And I think it's

(01:48:32):
that magic that brings that spark of life every time
you go into the woods, to keep your eyes open,
to keep you wanting to go into the woods. I mean,
finding Bigfoot is what it is. It's when you go
out into the woods and you experience nature for what
it is. That's your perk. If you find Bigfoot, that's great,

(01:48:56):
that's icing on the cake. Experience the magic of the forest.
And I think, I think if everything is solved and
discovered and found out the magic's gone, I wouldn't want
to lose the magic either.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
I don't want to lose it. I really don't. I
love the fact that I have two places. I love
the fact that I could go to those places and
and five find different happenings around there. I love that idea,
I really do. I love the idea that that I

(01:49:36):
can go get scared under my own control. I love
the fact that I can go put a flashlight up
and maybe catch Eyeshine or one of the beings themselves.
You know, I don't need to to to see one

(01:49:56):
in captivity. I don't need to see one go on
to lay in a zoo or at a carnival.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
I don't want that. I really don't, but that's, you know,
kind of what the people want. I will say this
in REGARDSS we got about three and a half minutes ago.
In regards to our location, we have found probably i
would say, close to eighty ninety yards apart, a very

(01:50:28):
weird looking print. It almost looks like a duck print
with a little round heel, and the thing is probably
the size of a basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
Wow, that is very strange.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
We found one way up in the trees and one
on the path, on a path that exits out.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
That's very interesting. Never heard it. That's crazy. Yeah, I
wonder what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
I have no idea. I don't even think I want
to know. But it's absolutely weird. I mean when you
when we saw the first one, we were like, okay,
Like it's almost like if you took your foot, you know,
if you were in the mud, you would take your
foot and you would kind of wash it like a
windshield washer. Yeah, it almost looks like that, with a

(01:51:25):
little round heel connected on the end, kind of like
a Martini glass, you know how it comes on down
and then you usually have the round part that you
sit it on or that starts the stem. That's kind
of what it looked like. And then we found another one,
like like I said, about eighty ninety yards away, two

(01:51:47):
extremely different locations, and we're like, what the hell is that?
And you know what, me being the non investigator or
a researcher, the amateur investigator that I am, I forgot
to take pictures of them, but Tim got him on camera.
Tim got him on camera, so we do have record

(01:52:07):
of them, but I have nothing to show it. It's like,
what are you doing? What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
But it's just experiencing it, right. We just came back
from the Smokies. We went to the Smoky Mountain Big
Front Conference. And I'm usually a picture hoarder. Okay, I
take pictures all the time, but I didn't this year
because I just wanted to experience the whole thing. I
mean I did take pictures, just not as many, but

(01:52:36):
I think I mean, it's okay to do that when
you go out into the woods, but you do always
cuss yourself when you leave, Like man if I just
had my camera to take a picture of that. So yeah,
I get it, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
It is very awesome. We have about one minute left
with you tonight, Tiffany, and I want to say a
big thank you for coming on our show Spaced Out
Radio tonight for the first time. It was an absolute pleasure.
Do me a favor. Take this time to tell people
about your books and how they can learn more about
you and your work.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
Absolutely, you guys can find me, I mean Google. I'm
all over the place on Google if you want to
find where. I mean, I have Facebook, Instagram. I do
not have an X account. However, you can find me
on Facebook, Instagram, my books, Amazon dot com, hanger On
Publishing dot Com, Barnes and Noble. Yeah, I mean, just

(01:53:35):
reach out to me if you want to chat. I'm
very responsive to emails and I would be happy to
talk to you about everything we talked about tonight and more.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
If it's weird, Tiffany is going to want to chat
with you about it. Hey, I want to say a
big thank you to you tonight for coming on the show.
It was absolutely great, and thank you for having fun
with us tonight on the show. Coming up next to
kick off our number three, we got our main man,
swamp Dweller coming on in then right after him, Little

(01:54:07):
Timmy James will join us for the UFO Report. It's
gonna be fun. Our three is next. You're listening just
spaced out radio with your host Dat Scott. Thank you

(01:54:39):
very much, appreciate you. I'm glad you had fun. I
did good.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
I did, and I appreciate you inviting me. It was
fun to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Well worth it, well worth our time. So thank you
very much. You have a great night. You go crawl
into bed. I got another hour to do and we'll
talk and we'll talk again. All right, thank you, good night.
I love her. She's so nice, so nice. She's got
nice hair. Can we agree that she has nice hair?

(01:55:12):
I would agree. I'll be right back.

Speaker 6 (01:55:14):
Everybody, Yah, yeah, usutus.

Speaker 5 (01:57:36):
USA U.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Let's bring in Little Timmy James.

Speaker 4 (02:00:10):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
It'd be good if my allergies would stop.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
Hear you again?

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
All right? Uh, swamp Dollar would be a little long tonight.
It's like seven and a half minutes, no worries, then
we'll bring you on. Thank you to t Bone Times too,
Uh Gizbo Gizmo and Dutch Hank for the great super chats.

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Here we go?

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Hello and welcome.

Speaker 8 (02:02:19):
The spaced Out Radio is Swamp. I'm swamp dweller, and
tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic journey
of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmapes.
Welcome to the Space Out Radio, Swamp. It has taking
me a while to write up this personal experience for you,
mostly due to just being busy with other things, though

(02:02:42):
I will admit it's also due to a bit of fear,
not that you would bother me about the story, but
about invoking other things to come back into my life.
While I won't give you the specific location details, I
suspect that a little investigation would lead you to the local.
I cannot stress this enough. Do not contact the curtain owners,

(02:03:05):
just don't. From shortly before I was born until sometime
in the mid nineties, I think ninety two or ninety three,
my grandparents lived in a small town outside of Selma, Alabama.
The town they lived in was rather well known due
to having several Ante Bellum mansions in it. One such
mansion was my grandparents home. The property had been abandoned

(02:03:29):
and largely forgotten by the time my grandparents had bought
it in the nineteen seventies, and my father spent much
of his free time restoring the home. I cannot say
specifically how long, but I know that I had been
empty for at least a decade at the time of purchase.
It took my dad and grandfather several years of working
on their own to restore the home, as well as

(02:03:51):
adding some new modern fixtures and other upgrades. My grandmother,
for her part, filled the home with various antiques, most
which dated around the period of the home. Due to
its age, the home was on the historical Register and
would later after they sold it be turned into a
bed and breakfast, though I don't think it is such now.

(02:04:14):
Whatever the case, paranormal experiences seemed to happen weekly there,
even during when my grandfather and.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Father were restoring the home.

Speaker 8 (02:04:23):
Some stories I remember off hand were his seeing something
white and see through sweep across the front hall one
night while they were working on the property. They made
sure to double check everything before locking up, but they
never did find anything. He passed it off as the
wind catching a painting drop cloth, though he would admit

(02:04:44):
reluctantly there was no wind and he had not started
painting quite yet. My grandmother related hearing footsteps come halfway
down the main staircase one day while she was on
the hall phone, only to have those steps turning go
back up the stairs slowly. Doors would randomly lock and
unlock themselves, various things getting moved around or just went

(02:05:08):
missing in general, and there was an overbearing sense of
just being watched in the home at all times, especially
in one room at the corner at the top of
the main staircase. That room, at the top of the
stairs was the center of the most activity, even though
the last owner, an elderly woman, had died in another room. Personally,

(02:05:30):
that room always bothered me. I always felt like something
was watching me from it, something was angry. They didn't
want me there. Only if the door was closed could
I walk past it. Otherwise I would go out of
my way to simply avoid being.

Speaker 1 (02:05:43):
There at all.

Speaker 8 (02:05:45):
There were two staircases that led down the hallway and downstairs.
My half brother related a story from around when I
was born, when he was checking the property for my dad.
One afternoon, while walking around outside it, he stated that
he got the distinct feeling that he was being watched.
Looking up at the darkened house, he saw the face

(02:06:06):
of an old man staring back at him from a window.
The window happened to be in the room which I.

Speaker 1 (02:06:11):
Had problems with.

Speaker 8 (02:06:13):
After the property sold, I spent a week at the
bed and breakfast in two thousand. I specifically told the
owner to put me in any room other than the
one at the top of the stairs, to which they
stated they had quit renting it out anyway. The door
was now permanently locked. From what they seemed to say,
apparently they had numerous people who, after renting that room out,

(02:06:36):
would simply check out and leave. None would give a
reason for their sudden departure. While I stayed there, I
spent most of my time visiting people whom I had
kind of grown up with and such like that. Though
we had moved away when I was just a child,
we did still.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
Go back on a regular basis.

Speaker 8 (02:06:52):
We saw some places in Soma when my father had
worked and only returned to the house to sleep. One afternoon,
maybe a day or so before I was set to leave,
I sat down to dinner with the host and hostess.
The conversation turned to my history with the home and
some of the strange experiences I had over the years.

(02:07:13):
When the subject came to the room at the top
of the stairs and what my half brother had personally witnessed,
the host and hostess shared a look of absolute disbelief.
Before the man cleared his throat, he said that what
I told them was on part with what they themselves
had experienced, though they noticed that they believed that they

(02:07:35):
knew why the disturbance had originated. During landscaping work in
the rather large about five acre back yard, they were
forced to cut down one of these ancient oak trees
that were there. In the roots of the tree, they
found the remains of an unmarked grave. This prompted further investigation,
upon which they discovered no less than six more unmarked

(02:07:58):
graves there. The remains were moved to a local cemetery,
but were quite badly beat up. And why they wouldn't
and they refused to go into detail, tell me much
of what they found there. Outside of that, they did
make it quite clear that it was their belief that
the unknown cemetery was directly tied to the spirits that
were in the home. They also related one final ghost

(02:08:21):
experience that makes me smile. I know this is the
kind of thing that shouldn't but it does. They note
that the large barn which my grandfather built it was
an original to the property. It was apparently haunted. However,
the ghost seems to just come and go on its
own free will. It hasn't really done anything overly spooky. Rather,
from time to time people in the barn have noticed

(02:08:43):
a distinct sound of old country or gospel music that
sounds like it's being played on an old record player
that seems to be centered around a small office located
in the interior of the barn itself. The reason this
makes me smile, well, that wasn't in office. My grandfather
had built that little room, put a small cotton there
and a record player where from time to time he

(02:09:05):
would take a nap while listening to his records. He
was the happiest when he was puttering around in his barn,
usually with my grandmother at his side. While listening to
those records of this, I can't help but feel that
now that he has passed on, he went back to
the old home he was happiest at. I guess it
goes without saying he and my grandmother didn't want to
sell the old home.

Speaker 1 (02:09:26):
Some of the family.

Speaker 8 (02:09:27):
Effectively forced that to happen. And well, the fact that
my grandfather and grandmother didn't live long enough after it's
sold makes me seriously feel the sale was directly tied
to them dying in some manner. Now, as I said,
as far as I know, the place is still very
active on the haunting side. It is also a private
residence now, so you might as well have a general
idea of where the home is. But by no means

(02:09:49):
you should not contact the current owners. I haven't done
so since two thousand myself, and I do not know
if it's still an airbnb or not, and even if
it is, I doubt the owners would want to become
a ghosted traction. Anyways, thank you so much for sharing
my story and I hope you will enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
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Speaker 5 (02:10:22):
That is a hit of plants.

Speaker 1 (02:10:24):
Hurry, flying space sauce up. All right, we bring in
little Timmy James here on spaced out radio from his

(02:10:47):
home studio. Never the same when he's over there, you know,
we're always on like a half a second lag. You know,
his beard never looks as good as when he's at
home than when he's out in public. We're at the
studio here, Tim. How you doing, buddy, Good to see you.

Speaker 4 (02:11:05):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 1 (02:11:06):
Now about you, man, I'm good, I'm good. You know
it's our three. Yeah, it's our three. You know you
get those shows where you're like, what where did the
first two hours go? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:11:18):
No doubt. And she was awesome. She was a great guest.

Speaker 1 (02:11:21):
Yeah, Tiffany was great, very very good. Finally we actually
might have some UFO stuff to talk about tonight. But
I have a question for you before we get going.

Speaker 4 (02:11:33):
Yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
Are you ever going to do your rent again?

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
If you'd like me too, I can do one tonight. Well, absolutely,
I want to hear a rant from you. Okay, do
you want me to start off with winter? End with it?

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Let's start start with it. Let's warm it up here.

Speaker 4 (02:11:49):
Okay, all right, I'm gonna warm it up. So what's
going on is I've obviously I peruise through every the
news as much as I possibly can on UFO stuff
and cryptid and all the rest of it, but focusing
on UFO stuff, and there seems to be a lot
of people out there that are like, oh, we could
have more congressional hearings. Are there going to be more

(02:12:10):
congressional hearings. There's a lot of talk about it, and
I was like, hang on a second, don't it doesn't
the window close on this disclosure team that the Pentagon
has with Anapolina Lunin. Didn't they have a six month window?
Nothing else is happening right, Well, everybody's yammering about it,
and I just I was like, Okay, I'm so sick

(02:12:32):
of it, and I'm all of it, like these hearing. Yes,
so congressional hearings. So here we go. So the UFO community,
those of us have burned years, lifetimes, months, days, whatever,
chasing the truth about unidentified flying objects is beyond sick

(02:12:53):
of this charade, so Congressional hearings on the UFOs are
a pathetic joke as far as I'm concerned. A revolt door,
pompous suits and stoneface brass, spewing empty platitudes while delivering
jack squat. We're not here for another dog and pony show,
another round of historic hearings that fizzle into nothing. The

(02:13:13):
American public, heck, the whole world is fed up with
being jerked around by a government that treats us like idiots,
too dumb for the truth, So let's talk results, or
the lack thereof. The twenty twenty one hearing a glorified
PowerPoint with blurry videos, zero substance. Twenty twenty three grush

(02:13:33):
drops a nuke, claims non human biologics and secret crash
retrieval programs, and what happens Nothing Congress Sean's the Pentagon denies,
and we're left with nothing but whispers with classified briefings
we'll never see. Twenty twenty four, same garbage, different day,
more witnesses, Alizondo Gadet hinting at black budget programs and

(02:13:56):
recovery tech. But where's the proof locked in some shadowy
vault guarded by bureaucrats who'd rather choke on their security
clearances than give us a shred of evidence. These hearings
aren't progressed. They're a middle finger to everyone who actually
gives a damn. The government's transparency is a sick prank,

(02:14:17):
a deliberate slap in the face while they dangle the
carrot of disclosure just out of reache. We're not just
choked about the stone walling. It's the condescending gall of it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:28):
All.

Speaker 4 (02:14:29):
Lawmakers play act or play act outrage, demanding answers they
know that they won't get, then scurry back to their
offices like cowards. They frame UFOs as a national security
issue to sound tough, but they're too spineless to ask
the real questions. Are we alone or have we been
sharing this planet with something else for decades? They'd rather

(02:14:51):
dodge the implications than look like Kooch's leaving us with
a recycled drivel about threat assessments and oversight. It's a betrayal.
We're not conspiracy nuts in tinfoil hats, where people who
have seen through the lies and we were done being
gas lit by the system that's been lying to us
since Roswell. The whistleblowers are the only one with guts. Grush,

(02:15:17):
Craver Graves, career guides, not X keyboard warriors, have put
their necks on the line talking about craft that laugh
at our physics and yeah, non human biologics. So that's
code for bodies, just in case nobody didn't know alien corpses,
maybe even TEXO advanced. It makes F thirty five's look

(02:15:38):
like paper planes. But even their bombshells get neutered. They're
gagged by clearances, forced to tiptoe around specifics, while the
Pentagon smirks and denies everything. Grush's twenty twenty three testimony
about the multi multi decade cover ups was a gut punch,
but without photos, wreckage or single deck be classified page,

(02:16:01):
it's just words. The system is designed to smother truth,
to let brave voices showed into the void while Congress
pretends to care. Now words leaking out about new whistleblowers
stepping up, and this is where it kind of gets
a little wild. These aren't randoms. We're talking insiders ex military,

(02:16:21):
former intelligence, maybe even scientists who've touched the stuff. They're
whispering about retrievals, not just one or two crashes, but
a systematic program. Think Roswell on steroids, multiple craft that
aren't just saucers, but machines that rewrite what we think
is possible. Speculations rampant that these new voices have seen

(02:16:45):
the goods, preserve specimens, alloys that don't match anything on Earth,
maybe even tech that's been reverse engineered into black ops projects.
They're risking everything, careers, torched, lives, threatened to spill details
about underground facilities, Cigarett labs, and programs so compartmentalize even
presidents might not know anything about them. If they bring evidence, photos, videos,

(02:17:10):
and actual materials, it could blow the lid off. Imagine
a whistleblower walking into Congress with a chunk of otherworldly
metal or a leaked autopsy report. The UFO community buzzing
that this could be it the moment the dam breaks.
But let's not kid ourselves. The future's only bright if
these whistleblowers can out maneuver the machine the government's had

(02:17:32):
decades to perfect this playbook, discredit, bury, or classify anything
that gets too close to the truth. If these new
insiders deliver the deliver, they'll face smear campaigns and maybe worse,
and Congress they'll probably botch it again, too scared of
the implications to push the classification. We're not asking for

(02:17:52):
Hollywood endings with aliens on the White House lawn. We
want the truth, bodies, craft, data, whatever's been hit since
nineteen forty. We already know the majority of us are experiences.
We know the truth. Open the vaults. Let scientists, not spooks,
tear into it. If it's nothing, prove it. If it's something,

(02:18:13):
own it. Congress, your hearings are a scam, Your promises
are lies, and we're done listening to your bs. The
UFO community isn't your punching bag. We're the ones who've
kept the fight alive despite your mockery to the whistleblowers.
Bring it all, every scrap, every photo, every impossible Ally,
we're ready. The suits in DC aren't, and we're damn

(02:18:35):
tired of waiting for them to grow a spine.

Speaker 1 (02:18:39):
Wow, you're kind of angry in that one.

Speaker 4 (02:18:41):
Yeah, it was. It was irritating me. Sorry, folks.

Speaker 1 (02:18:50):
I like what you said. I think it was from
the heart. I think that you know you're showing ample
frustrate in the deep State and the control that it
has on this topic, you know. And the question is,
you know, comes down to it, do they really want disclosure?

Speaker 4 (02:19:15):
Well, that's just it too. And and the thing is
is that there's I think what kind of I think
peaked my set me off, so to speak, is so
many people just reading constantly we want disclosure, we want this,
we want, we want, we want, and why aren't we
having more hearings? And why are we have And that's
what got me. It was like hearings, Why do we

(02:19:35):
need any more hearings unless there's something absolutely phenomenal that's
going to drop out of the sky or come out
of the woodwork, you know, and again like we've said
nothing against it, which just nothing like that. It's just like, uh,
I remember watching this this TV show fifteen times already.
So yeah, it just kind of set me off.

Speaker 1 (02:19:57):
Yeah, And look, I don't want any other types of
hearings either. And we're in a little bit of a
catch twenty two when it comes to that because I
don't like the hearings. But what it does is it
keeps the conversation going. Yes, okay, So on that level,

(02:20:18):
I can see where the hearings are important, but unless
they're going to bring new people with new information, with
proper information, proper details, then it's going to be the
same old, like you said, dog and Pony show. Yeah,

(02:20:39):
you know, And it's for the press. It's not for
anybody else. It's for the press, you know. And and
you know, if you talk to or talk to anybody
who knows anything about American politics, they will tell you
the names on this UFO board are not the star

(02:20:59):
player of the of the Congress. They are the the
in hockey, we'd call them the third or fourth liners.

Speaker 4 (02:21:10):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:21:12):
And and hey, some of them are making this name
for themselves, but they can only like you said, though,
they can only pound on their chests so far, yeah, yeah,
before people are going to stop listing. And it also
comes down to what is a witness, What is a whistleblower?
Not a witness? What is a whistleblower? Yes, we haven't

(02:21:36):
had a whistleblower yet.

Speaker 4 (02:21:38):
No, No, you're you're absolutely right. And they that's just it.
If they're going to have a hearing, if they're going
to have something come out, and they want to keep
it out in the open and have a hearing with
somebody that's going to bring some meat and potatoes to
the table instead of buy my book. You know that's
that's yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. I guess,

(02:21:59):
And then I don't know. I'm just it's frustrating and
I'm just tired of listening to it. And the other
thing is too. The only thing that I think satisfies
all of us to a certain degree, and you and
I have talked about it many times on this on
the show, is that we know, we know, we know
we've experienced I would say most of us have experienced

(02:22:20):
not everybody, but you know we've experienced it. We don't
need you to tell us that you know what we've
felt or seen or encountered as real or not. Don't
need them to tell us that, right, We just it's yeah,
I think that's the solace in it all is that
you know, I know what's happened with me and what
I've seen. You know what's happened with you and what

(02:22:42):
you've seen. But it's like all these Yeah, you look
at the government and go, what are you talking about?
There's nothing going on here. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:22:53):
We have about a minute to go here, so I
think we do need to just continue on with this topic.
It does look like we will be getting more hearings.
It's looking more and more likes September. That will happen
maybe the beginning of September. And for the rest of us,
you know, who are familiar with this topic, we're going

(02:23:14):
to be eye rolling. If you're new to this topic,
it's going to be exciting, it's going to be very interesting.
It's quite a learning curve and we encourage people to
do that, but don't expect them to come out and
say we got aliens. Don't expect them to come out
and say we have UFO technology. They can't say it.

(02:23:36):
They just can't, and they're going to refuse to continuing on.
And that's why many people who love this topic at
the grassroots level are turning their backs on this whole
disclosure movement. They are starting to realize that they've been
hoodwinked and that's pretty much yet. Coming them up next

(02:23:56):
on spaced Out Radio, we continue the UFO for It
with Little Timmy James hanging on out Tonight. We're gonna
get into former s O R guests and former c
i A member John Ramirez. What's the latest news. We'll
find out next.

Speaker 4 (02:24:13):
This is based out radio and your boss.

Speaker 1 (02:24:47):
All right, we're clear.

Speaker 4 (02:24:49):
Sweet like your commercials.

Speaker 1 (02:24:54):
Dude, what commercials? Oh? Then not here? Not here?

Speaker 4 (02:25:00):
No, no, no, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
Yeah, daytime stuff is daytime stuff. But you know what,
you know what we do have. We gotta we gotta
start making some fun stuff for our short span. I
gotta get I'm trying to find some time to get

(02:25:24):
into those videos and get into some of our videos
and cut them up and may start making some shorts.
I have to trying to train myself to try and
do that every day or every couple of days, and
I'm not doing good at it right now.

Speaker 4 (02:25:37):
No, I hear you. Actually, I ran across the other day.
I ran across a piece of software that you actually
you can take any of your videos, you know, any
of the best our previous archives, and you can pick
a link for any one of the shows, and it
actually goes through and I guess watches it and then

(02:25:59):
picks out like anywhere from thirty second to a minute
and a half shorts and creates ten of them out
of a video. I was like, oh, I saved the
link because.

Speaker 1 (02:26:08):
I wanted to read up. I have a program like
that called opus Clip.

Speaker 4 (02:26:13):
Yeah, but I'm not.

Speaker 1 (02:26:14):
Happy with it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:15):
Oh really, it just kind of randomly falls on its face.

Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
Or no, no, just not a fan of it. Not
a fan. I find that it it kind of makes
the cameras look blurry. Oh it looks to me it
looks cheap.

Speaker 4 (02:26:38):
Oh okay, like it reduces the your resolution and stuff
like that. No, not that. Yeah, yeah, I can't remember
what the name of it is. I'll look it up,
and I know it wasn't an opus clip because I
would remember that name. But yeah, I'll check it out
and see what it is. You play around, because that'd
be nice.

Speaker 1 (02:26:58):
Yeah, I think it'd be good. Mm hmm. You think
it would be good these freaking allergies, man.

Speaker 4 (02:27:09):
Oh because of that? Yeah yeah. Yeah. It's it's so
hot out there, welfare up here. It's so hot. Yeah,
I know that. Everywhere at my daytime job, it's like
all over the place is dust and uh.

Speaker 1 (02:27:27):
Right, yep. Yes.

Speaker 4 (02:27:32):
Trying to get used to this new mic. It's like.

Speaker 1 (02:27:39):
Your mic looks good, thank.

Speaker 4 (02:27:42):
Cute, But I was I was so used to eating
the other one because you had to get rid of
this one. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:27:48):
Yeah, well look who it is. It's little Mikey Goodie
eras in the chat room, Little Mikey.

Speaker 4 (02:27:54):
What Yeah we Mikey.

Speaker 1 (02:27:57):
B Arthur's tuned right into you tonight too.

Speaker 9 (02:28:00):
Mmm mmm right on, Hello Be, Hello Be. Did you
catch any of the Ozzie.

Speaker 1 (02:28:11):
I watched a little bit online and uh I didn't.
I didn't watch a funeral. I just saw the no,
the procession.

Speaker 4 (02:28:20):
Yeah, Birmingham was backed. I don't think anybody went to
work to or yesterday or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
I'm gonna say this out of sheer ignorance because I
know Ozzie's a legend, but I didn't expect him to,
you know, his procession to be like the Queen of
England dying.

Speaker 4 (02:28:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh Birmingham. He's a Birmingham boy. Man
made a big yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:28:52):
But I mean I didn't realize you know that they
worship him, worshiped him like that over there?

Speaker 4 (02:28:58):
Oh yeah yeah. Birthplace of heavy metal is what they've
called it.

Speaker 1 (02:29:04):
M m.

Speaker 4 (02:29:06):
Yeah. I couldn't believe the amount of people either.

Speaker 1 (02:29:08):
I was like, wow, I mean the last time I
saw people lined up like that was literally when b
Arthur from Paranormal Portal, was you know walking down the
street shaking hands. You know, thousands upon thousands of people
lined up just to get a glimpse.

Speaker 4 (02:29:26):
What's almost like at night after the show where the
people lined up outside the studio.

Speaker 1 (02:29:29):
For autographs exactly exactly we got like twenty seconds. Thank
you to t Bone times too, Gizmo Dutch Hank. Can
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Here we go for the final half hour spaced Out
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Little Timmy James coming up with the UFO report on
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Here we go, Tim James the UFO Report. What do
you got on John Ramirez for his former guest on
spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 4 (02:31:25):
Yeah, he has chimed in on these twenty twenty seven
impending doom event or whatever. They're classifying it as pretty interesting.
We were talking about it on Monday, and I know
that they did a little bit on it, but yeah,
it seems to be a lot of people in the
know chiming in and so John, He's a retarded CIA

(02:31:47):
officer with decades of intelligence experience, has a sparked intense
debate with his bold claim that humanity faces a transformative
event in twenty twenty seven, one that could reshape our
understanding of reality. In a recent discussion, Ramirez suggested that
governments are quietly preparing the public for a significant revelation,
warning that we are unprepared for what's coming. His statements,

(02:32:11):
grounded in his extensive career, having cited curiosity and skepticism,
promptly calls for a deeper explanation of humanity's relationship with
the planet. We're kind of preparing the US population at least,
and by extension, the world population to that reality that
there is a presence here and that we need to

(02:32:33):
explain this presence, because if they show up and we
continue to do what we did before in previous decades,
there will be mass panic. Ramirez stated in an interview
on podcast UFO. His assertion's points His assertion excuse me
points to a deliberate shift in how governments are addressing UFOs,

(02:32:53):
moving away from decades of denial towards a controlled disclosure.
Yeah right, Ramirez warning. Ramirez's warning hinges on the idea
that an an external presence, potentially extraterrestrial, has been interacting
with Earth for some time. He claims his presence will

(02:33:14):
become undeniable by twenty twenty seven, a date he says
has circulated within government circles. I think the word got
out within the government that they're showing up in twenty
twenty seven, and we'd better be prepared, he said, emphasizing
the need for psychological and societal readiness to avoid chaos.
Beyond the sensational nature of his claims, Ramirez urges a

(02:33:35):
broader reflection on humanity stewardship of Earth. He argues that
the impending event, whatever its nature, should prompt a reevaluation
of our environmental and societal propriety or priorities on Earth.
The idea that humans could be owned and treated without
respect came onto the planet half a million years ago.

(02:33:57):
We need to reteach the value of life, he remarked,
suggesting that humanity survival may depend on aligning with more
harmonious relationship with the planet. Skeptics question the lack of
concrete evidence behind ramirez claims, noting that his predictions echo
familiar patterns of speculative warnings, yet his background lends weight

(02:34:18):
to his words, fueling discussion about whether governments are orchestrating
a slow drip of information to condition the public. This
isn't about fear, It's about waking up to a reality
we've ignored for far too long, Ramirez said, framing the
twenty twenty seven event as a potential turning point for
human consciousness. As the date approaches, Ramirez's call to action

(02:34:43):
resonates humanity must confront its place in the cosmos and
on Earth itself. Whether his predictions prove true or not,
his messages underscore exists with our planet. So like, Okay,
John's jumped into it, and I'm like, I say, he

(02:35:03):
was a guest on the show before, and I thought, Okay,
I like John. I like listen to what he has
to say. He's a very intelligent man. But I still
have that terrible Jeremy corbel thing going in the back
of my head. They're going to tell you that there's
a big catastrophe coming, They're going to tell you that
there's something coming for Earth, and yeah, I'm still trying

(02:35:24):
to sift through and find what I can what I
can actually believe.

Speaker 1 (02:35:28):
Right Well, I mean the thing with a lot of
these dates and predictions, mm hmm, I don't really buy
into them, and no offense. I like John Ramirez. I've
had the pleasure of meeting up with him a few
times now and talking to him on the phone. And remember,
John just passes information that he's heard. He doesn't say

(02:35:53):
that it is one hundred percent truth, one hundred percent fact.
He says this is what I am hearing. And the
one thing that I will say to defend him is
a lot of people will say John's full of it.
Look what he's putting out. He's a disinformation agent, once
in the CIA, always in the CIA. And I'm not

(02:36:15):
saying there isn't much that that's all one not truthful.
But in knowing John and meeting him a few times,
I don't have a great read on him, but I
think I've got a good read on him, and I
think that we need to remember that guys like John Ramirez,

(02:36:36):
they're just passing on the information from their sources. He's
not saying it's correct, He's not saying it's not correct.
He's saying this is what I heard, this is what
I found out. He's not owning the information. And I
think that's where a lot of people get frustrated with him.

Speaker 4 (02:37:00):
Yeah, I would agree. And you know, the thing is
is that it's like us, we're just passing on the
information as well. I mean, understand you and I aren't
at CIA, or aren't we, but you know it's we're
doing the same thing. So I can see where you're
coming from. And that makes perfect sense. And John's a
great guy. Like I mean, you know, I've known him

(02:37:20):
for like a brief second or two, but the read
I get from him is the same thing. He's not
mincing words. I don't think he's trying to, you know,
paint it yellow and tell you it's green. You know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:37:34):
True? And it is that time of the night when
we talk about the CIA and all the alphabet agencies
that you know, you're more than welcome to give us
a call sometime and say hello. You know you already
got our number. We don't need to give it to
you on the air. You already got our number. But
feel free to give us a call sometime and shoot
the breeze about these weird, strange topics. I always like it.

(02:37:57):
Maybe you will too, Maybe we could be friends. Give
us a call SubTime.

Speaker 4 (02:38:02):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:38:07):
What else you got for us? Him? Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:38:10):
Well, I think we need to get Science Bob on
sooner than later here, because we got more Skywatcher news
going on. So apparently, allegedly, an anonymous insider has come
forward with a startling claim about Skywatcher, a group known
for its work in collecting scientific data on UFO and UAP.
The insider alleges that Skywalker, wants celebrated for its transparent

(02:38:32):
approach to UFO research, has sold out and signed non
disclosure agreements to conceal its operations, raising questions about the
group's motive and future. So the insider, who claims to
have been closely and again being closely involved with Skywatcher's
activities spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive

(02:38:54):
nature of the allegations. Word on the street is that
the whole operation was compromised. The insiders said they got
too close to something big and now they're locked into
NDAs to keep it quiet. It's not about science anymore,
It's about control. Skywatcher has been recognized in UFO and
UAP research circles for its rigorous methods, with prominent figures

(02:39:18):
like Gary Nolan, Stafford professor and a UAP researcher praising
its approach. Nolan previously described Skywatcher as the only group
with a comprehensive approach that will lead the field, citing
their ability to collect data at scale and handle complex logistics. However,

(02:39:39):
the insiders claims suggest a shift in the group's priorities.
They used to be about sharing knowledge, but now it's
all behind closed doors. The Insider added, the NDAs are
a gag order to keep the truth from coming out.
The allegations of sparks skepticism among UFO enthusiasts, particularly after
recent online discussions highlighted unverified claims about Skywatchers methods, such

(02:40:06):
as alleged psionics summoning of UFOs. The Insider dismissed these
as distractions. That's just noise to cover up what's really
going on, they said. The real story is they've been
brought out or they've been bought out, excuse me, whether
it's government, corporate, or something else. They're not independent anymore so.

(02:40:26):
No concrete evidence has surface to confirm this claim, but
and Skywatcher has not issued any public response. The group's
website and social media channels remain active promoting upcoming projects,
but make no mention of NDAs or changes in leadership
or funding. Critics argue the lack of transparency fuel speculation.

(02:40:48):
If they're signing NDAs, it's because someone wants their work buried,
said a former collaborator who declined to be named. This
isn't how you advance science. The insiders allegations come at
a time when public interest in UFOs is at an
all time high. Skywatcher's alleged shift from open research to
secrecy could undermine trust in a broader UFO research community.

(02:41:11):
People look to Skywatcher for answers, the Insider said, now
they're just another group playing by somebody else's rules.

Speaker 1 (02:41:21):
Oh, I have so much to say.

Speaker 4 (02:41:22):
On this, so much to say, what you might.

Speaker 1 (02:41:29):
Here's what we do now. Skywatcher does get funding, private funding.
They are being funded. This is why they have gone quiet.
It's almost like when Robert Bigelow owns Skinwalker Ranch, he
didn't let a thing out. We're not going to hear

(02:41:51):
a thing from SkyWatch Skywatcher unless they want us to
know about it. As I've said from the last few months,
and I hate to pat myself on the back again,
but I was right totally. They want nothing to do
with eufology. I took a lot of heat for the
way I kind of went after Science Bob about Skywatcher.

(02:42:16):
And you know what, it's all coming true. The renaming
of eupology. You know, from black triangles to what do
they call them, tridactyls or triads or you know, trigonometry. Yeah,
I'm making a little bit fun there, Okay, But the
renaming of UFOs and coming up with all of their

(02:42:36):
own new terms because all of our UFO terms are
are tainted and they are their old school and it
means little green men and flying saucers and anal probes.
You know, we've heard it all. Skywatcher has been a
for profit company for a while. They want to break in. Now,

(02:42:59):
I'm not saying they're no, I'm not doing good work. Okay,
I'm not saying that at all. I believe in the summoning.
I believe that they are able to. They have figured
out ways in order to attract these craft and it
is all about consciousness and I think that's what they
are working strongly with right now. Their agenda is to

(02:43:23):
make money. They want to make money off of this project.
They want to be the number one team out there
to go to to get government contracts. Okay, now I
am hypothesizing here. Let me clarify that this is not

(02:43:49):
one hundred percent fact. It's hypothesis and hearing what I've
heard from secondhand information from people who are down. It
has nothing to do with entertainment. It has nothing to
do with disclosure or transparency or anything along those lines.
It has nothing to do with that. It has everything

(02:44:11):
to do with how can they capitalize on this? This is,
in my opinion, a very very public disclosure for dollars team. However,
I think they are doing good work. So I'm going
to talk out of both sides of my mouth here
for a second. Okay, especially the summoning people. Every one

(02:44:35):
of you listing out there can summon the UFOs, You
really can. We don't need the technology, we don't need
the dog whistles. We don't need thirty five hundred dollars
to spend on Stephen Greer's weekend to show you how
to do it. Okay, all you need to do is

(02:44:57):
clear your conscience, medita and take some time, not ten
to fifteen minutes, not half an hour, take an hour
to two hours. On one of these warm summer nights,
go outside with a lawn chair and just meditate on
a piece of the sky and say, can you fly over?

(02:45:20):
As long as you have a clear conscience, clear heart
and soul, ask them to fly over. That's it. That's summoning,
is putting the energy out there, like taking a kmart
blue light special light and shooting it from your head
right to a billion miles into space. That's summoning. That's it.

(02:45:41):
They're going to pick up on your signal. They will,
but it takes time. You're not going to have You're
likely not going to have success the first time you
try it or the second time you try it. Then
all of a sudden, you're going to get a feeling
one day that hey, I better watch the stars tonight.
I don't know why, but I better go outside and

(02:46:02):
watch the stars. And you go out there and the
next thing you know, there's something happening and something you
don't recognize flying across the sky. The critics and the
skeptics they don't believe in summoning. I don't care about them.
I don't care about them. What I care about is

(02:46:23):
people thinking that anything to do with with this is
going to lead to disclosure. They don't care about disclosure.
Skywatcher has no care science. Bob even pretty much said
that on this show. They don't care about disclosure. They
don't care about eufology, they don't care about experiencers. They're

(02:46:45):
doing their own thing. They're lucky enough to have the
financial backing to do it. And if their theories prove true,
with the deep pockets that they have, they could be
at the precipice of something really, really financially beneficial for him.
That's Skywatcher, very true. That's all I got, man, You

(02:47:14):
got a quick story for us.

Speaker 4 (02:47:16):
Yeah, So this fifty seven years ago this month in
our old stomping ground, just down the road, a couple
hours of Vancouver. So this is the first time I
heard of it, and I vetted this one, and it's
true because it's archived in different newspapers. So in late
July of nineteen sixty eight, the sun had just stepped

(02:47:37):
down the horizon, bathing Vancouver's McCleary golf course in a
dusky amber light. The fairways were deserted except for four
local boys aged ten to thirteen, who had snuck in
with flashlights and wide eyed curiosity, hoping to find lost
golf balls or maybe spot a raccoon. Instead, at the
edge of the number seven or seventh hole, they found

(02:48:01):
something utterly unexplainable. Nestled between two sand traps, sat a
metallic disc, low and silent as if it had just landed.
It glitedflecting no light from their flickering torches. One boy, Danny,
described it as like a faintly like electricity in your teeth.

(02:48:22):
The air around it shimmereing or shimmered faintly, not with heat,
but with weird distortion, like ripples of water. Then they
saw him. About twenty feet from the disc stood a
figure tall easily seven feet, with impossibly long limbs and
skin that looked like grayish white under their lights. Its

(02:48:42):
eyes glowed faintly, not with beams, but with ambient luminescence,
like an old clock dial. It made no sound, didn't move,
just watched. One of the boys said he suddenly heard
a strange voice inside of his head, though no one spoke.
It wasn't English, he said years later, but I understood
it like it was asking me, why are you afraid?

(02:49:04):
Panic struck, and the boys fled across the fairway, their legs,
barely obeying what they had asked them to do. When
they returned ten minutes later with the groundskeeper, everything was gone,
the disc, the figure, even the shimmering air. But there
was one detail no one could ignore. The grass where
the craft had rested was perfectly flattened in a circular shape,
crisp and undisturbed in its pattern. The story spread real quietly,

(02:49:28):
mostly among local UFO researchers, then later archived by Canadian
Aerial Phenomenon investigators. Skeptics chalked it up to overactive imaginations,
but the boys stuck to their accounts even decades later
and refused money or publicity to tell their story once again.

(02:49:49):
So I went back and I was like, Okay, this
is like the Caribou UFO T shirts. So I went
through it and no, it's it was true. It was
in the Vancouver Sun.

Speaker 1 (02:50:00):
Question is, with all the light pollution around Vancouver even
at that time, how could they see a UFO there?

Speaker 4 (02:50:07):
Well, nineteen sixty eight and McCleary golf courses on McDonald,
So it's down towards well yeah, and back then in
sixty eight along McDonald down on the on that side
of the town. I don't know. I don't know if
you'd get a lot of light pollution down in there,
but you never know. Good point.

Speaker 1 (02:50:25):
That's what I kind of look at, like, come on,
it's Vancouver. I mean, if you're on the south side
of Vancouver, you got Vancouver Airport. Yeah, that has things
flying all the time, and the ports and the ports
and helicopters and little planes all flying in between the
mainland and Vancouver Island or quickly shooting down into Washington State. Yep,

(02:50:51):
I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I'm saying, knowing
that area, even going back to when I was a kid,
there wasn't a lot of darkness in the Lower Mainland
at that point.

Speaker 4 (02:51:03):
Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (02:51:05):
Yeah, you get to the Fraser Valley, Langley East, at
that point it was like turning the lights off. You
know how your TV goes staticky at eleven o'clock at
night after the National anthem. That's what it was like
living in the Fraser Valley at that point. Not now, though,
now you got to go at least further an hour further. Tim,

(02:51:25):
thank you very much for a great UFO report. You
are modest and you are brave, my friend, modest and
brave to deal us these great topics of UFOs. Thank
you very much for your hard night of work. As
we say good night to Tim and hello to mister Ron.

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