July 31/25 - Our Cryptid World with Bryan Bowden - Spaced Out Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Charities today. You can find them on our website. We
have an amazing show for you tonight. Brian Bowden, the
man with multiple podcasts in the thousands, will join us

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to talk monsters on our Cryptid World. Then in our
number three, Oh, it's going to be a busy one.
We have Swamp Dweller, we have Little Timmy James coming
in for the UFO Report, we have the Dave of
one oh one, and it'll be the weird news of
the week. So let's have some fun. Brian Bowden was

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born and raised at New New York City. They don't
make a good salsa there, but I'll tell you a
good pizza, a good hot dog, a good baseball team
in the Yankees, terrible hockey. Let's just face it, the
Rangers are terrible. They really are terrible. And of course,
in the meantime and in between time, when he's not
moving his way around New York City all the way

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down to Florida and back, he's chasing down monsters. Brian
is somebody who has been there, seen it done at all.
He's an experiencer, He's a researcher. He's an author, podcaster.
He's been on numerous television shows talking about dog Man, Bigfoot, Aliens, ufo,
psychic energy. He's worked with the crypto guru Ronald L.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Murphy.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
His biggest passion podcasts. This man has a network of
podcasts going. At one point he had like four thousand
podcasts going on at the same time, he says it
was only like two or three. I don't believe him,
but you know what, let's bring.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Him right on.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Brian Bowden, the Man, the myth, and the podcast legend.
How you doing, my.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Friend, I'm doing good. I got a little arrnge items.
But I'm doing good. Only one show right now, and
then actually i'm bi weekly on another, you know, another
show that runs every day. But other than that note,
and then I'm here today to hang out with everybody
in the spaced out radio chat and you.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, it's always good to have you here, my friend.
And you know, for people who may say, why you
tease this guy so much, he's.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
A good dude, I'm good. Yeah, he's a good with it.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know what, There's one thing that I can always
say about Brian Bowden over the years. If I call
he answers, that says a lot to me. Says a lot. Right,
That's what friends do. You do have to come to
one of our Vegas events.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Though I'm really trying, I really want to get there.
It's just the way it was it situated. I think
should come from Florida, but you know, well at least
to see the cup at that point.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
But oucher my brother. So you know this was going
to be a fun show until you mentioned Florida beating
my oilers two years.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
In a row.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
All right, you know.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
It was pretty tight. It was it was good.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
All I'm going to say is this that is insultive.
I am hurt. I feel I feel like I'm in
a bowl of mass confusion right now.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You hurt you hurt me. I'm a I'm a New
York Ranger fan. The other reason why most people Ranger
fans drink, I mean, it just doesn't work. The cryptids
of the of the hockey world. It's ridiculous. What goes
on with this stuff?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Let me ask you this, okay, because I know you're
a conspiracy theorist. Have you ever been a hockey fan
looked into the Gary Bettman conspiracy?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
No, but it's it's really interesting so people is interesting.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
So for people who don't know who Gary Bettman is,
he is the commissioner of the NHL. And the last
time a Canadian team wander Stanley Cup was the Montreal
Canadians in nineteen ninety three. Now there's two conspiracies to
go along with that. In nineteen ninety three, it was

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their last win in the Montreal Forum before they moved
to the Bell Setter, and it is believed that because
they changed buildings from the historic Forum to go to
the Bell Center, that it cursed all Canadian teams from
winning the Stanley Cup or the second conspiracy that I

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just mentioned about Gary Bettman. When he took over as commissioner,
the NHL had never had a commissioner, it only had presidents.
And he took over from Gil Stein, who is the
final NHL president, and he became the first and only
commissioner the NHL has ever seen and known and since then.

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During his early tenure, he pulled two teams out of Canada,
threatened to pull three more where Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal
would have been the only teams. He moved Winnipeg down
to Arizona, which is now in Utah. He moved the
Quebec Nordis to the Colorado area, which won a Stanley
Cup almost immediately after moving there, and in nineteen ninety four.

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Since nineteen ninety four, a Canadian team has never won
the Stanley Cup as long as Gary Bettman has been commissioner.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Now, I think a different in eighty four, I mean
ninety four, because the New York Rangers were basically the
Montreal It was the Oilers.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Well I understand that, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
But it literally was the Oilers that got us the cup.
It was you know, I mean, it was nice to
watch and all but it's better when it's organic like
it's been, you know with Toronto and and some other
teams in Montreal and whatever. But you know, it's a
tough well do you just winning anything is like trying

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to see Bigfoot?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
You know, it's like, well, what do you think of
the conspiracy theory?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean, it's it's an interesting theory because it's it
may just coincide with the fact that teams aren't that
good over the Canadian teams aren't doing that well. But
and it then I mean, it's it's almost valid, but
you're you're pretty much saying he's favoring americanized American franchises

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or America over Canada. The only thing I can think
of on the conspira is how much more money these
these owners making. Now, you know, there's a lot of
money to be made when when a local team wins,
and then how much does that go back to the league,

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because there's got to be certain features that the league
is going to get. You know, it's kind of like
NASCAR when you when you get into NASCAR and you
advertise everybody benefits it is that it is the craziest
of marketing in the world. But it's it's amazing. So
maybe there's something to that. Maybe we should just stop
calling it Canada in the US and just call it

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Anerica or something like that.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, technically, if you want to get technically speaking, and
I'm sure i'll raise some eyebrows of feathers with this,
America is a continent. It is not a country. It's
the United States of the continent.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Right, It's it's actually two confidents, but yes, yes it
is and into America. But it is, yes, United States
of America.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So if you say you're American, you should have a
passport to go anywhere North and South America.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I agree with you. I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
And if.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, if you love hockey, you should also have a
passport that says yeah, we're I agree. But there's a
lot of these conspiracy theories.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Well, you know, I understand.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know, when the oilers moved, that's like the curse
of Babe Ruth Almos. And when they when they built
the New Yankee Stadium, there was a rumor going around
that one of the construction workers was a born and
raised Boston fan and he buried a Jersey in the
stadium and to curse them and they literally dug up

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there was a jersey there and that that was like
hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of it.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Just took that jersey that David Ortiz jersey just sold
for one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, he nice.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Cursed him, Yep, cursed him.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But let's talk.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Let's talk a little bit about you before, and then
we'll get into some curses because I know you like curses.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
You know it's I actually am asking somebody to come
on my show that deals with old witch curses and
it's interesting stuff. So we'll get into that a little bit.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
For people who have may have never heard you on
this show before, how did it all start for you?
Why did you fall in love with covering this subject.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I'm I researched at primarily, and I went out and
I was able to go out into the field and
actually be, you know, in the woods researching and interviewing people.
I never thought i'd be, you know, going up to
people and talking to them about their encounters be it
extraterrestrial or cryptid or ghost, and then getting that information,

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storing it and then going back out working on I'm
not a scientist, and we always have this conversation people
trying to do science. But I was trained in scientific
methods because I studied physics and astronomy and some engineering,
and you know, I know the repetition. You can repeat
things and but and I try to do that. I

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also try to debunk constantly. But that it was just
I have questions, I've had experiences, and I want answers.
And then the most logical thing was I want to
talk about it. There's not many people in my area
where I was growing up that you can talk about
it with, you know, so you have to you reach

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out to the universe that's here, all these wonderful people
that are are part of Space Out Radio and you
know that enjoy these type of subjects.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
And then you hear from their experience of it. I've
heard the stories.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean, it's really weird interviewing people that you've kind
of like you've seen on TV and at one point
you're like, oh, they'll be out of touch, and there
you are. You know, you're talking to uh Ron moorehead
the era sounds, and you're like and you become friendly
with these people and there's you know, go tos to

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the Gearhards and and Blackburns and all these other people.
I was just hanging out a bit. I did a
They did a three day paranormal weekend to raise money
for charity and people that really need help call the
Gettysburg Battlefield Bash. And there's a lot of para celebrities there,
but a lot of them are my friends. That was like, Yo, Brian,

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what's up? And you know you're hanging out and you're
talking about new things. I had an interesting I had
a person I never met before, new to the whole thing,
and told me a very very interesting story that I'll
get into about a cryptid or is it not a cryptid?
Is it something that's made up? But he swears he's

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seen what he's seen and it's along the dog Man lines,
but it's known as something else. It's he saw Crampis. No, yeah,
he did. He's pencil well. He lived in the Pennsylvania
Dutch area, and he swears he saw something that looked

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like Crampis had the horns, even the tongue.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Would came out. It was forked at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
He said it was blood red and he it had
almost like a devil's tail on hind legs, he said,
of some kind of I would say a goat or
something to that effect. And then I had to ask
do you drink? You know, I actually have to ask
these questions. When I answer you, people like, are you
taking any kind of medication right now? Are you? You know?

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Are you seeing things? Because it does play a part
in a lot of stuff. It's not that you know
that's it's personal. But if you're gonna tell me you've
seen something, He's like, I don't drink, I don't smoke,
I don't do any of this. I just find it
all fascinating. And when I heard this was going to
be here, I was hoping more people would know what
I saw it.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
He said.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Crampus, And that's kind of interesting. That's the first time
I've heard of Crampis being cited. That wasn't part of
like some festival you know, in Germany or wherever. So
but again, it's pa right, I mean, butch Wootowski, who

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was You have the liking loop, you have all the it's.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
A crazy, crazy state. It's dark, and it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
For you being in the situation where you're putting yourself
out there, you know, to find mind and legends. What's
the rush of it all? Why do it?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
If?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
If these creatures are said to be so dangerous.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
My interactions, well, initially it was a little nerve wracking.
I mean, a bipedal giant of gorilla, and I mean,
we already know what chimpanzees can do. We know what
the strength capability, and you get that. If you get

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the the woot or the huff like you feel it,
you're the reverberation in your chest that will wake you
up pretty damn quick. But the goal at this point
is it's not always happens when you go out there.
I know you have your site and you guys been
going out. I don't have a gifting site. We're working

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on something down in Florida at this point. And but
I just think these things, somehow they connect to a
universal source and they know who people are. It's it's bizarre.
I don't know how to explain it other than it's
just like a collective of information and they know when
you come from the north, like, oh, that's that guy

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from you know, Billy's portion of the of the planet,
and they know what kind of people you are. And
that's the rush is is is getting a better, you know,
eyesight view of it. It's great when you have cameras
and stuff, but when you've actually witnessed this thing and
you see an arm coming past a tree but there's

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no other being with it, that is the craziest thing too.
So then that throws some questions in there. Can they
just fathe in and out of camouflage or view? Do
they have that capability? And then you want the ultimate
is the mind speak. I want a communication with this.
I want to ask questions, you know, more so big

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Foot than than dog Man or the Jersey Devil, although
Line says something to the fact that he's been having
communications with some of the flying humanoids up in up
in Chicago through I guess remote viewing or whatever Lon does.
But I've not had that experience yet. That's what I'm

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waiting for.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know, what's the one experience you've always wanted to have.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
It's not crypto the latest, it's not safe for radio.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well let's keep it safe for radio.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Oh okay, okay, talk about crypto with Initially, I thought
it would be kind of cool to be on a
have a UFO land, get in there and get to
fly it and get to learn some information and travel
and that type of stuff. Now it's more of again

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it's communication and almost befriending or having that you know,
this is my step family type of thing and having
a relationship that way. Not only was just the adult versions,
but some of the younger ones. And I guess it's
it's that thing. It's building a relationship with it to

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the point where they know who you are and you know,
and they look happy when they see you, and it's
just an interaction and possibly even my kids would freak out,
but maybe bring you know, no one would believe you
if you did get to that point where you were,
you know, had a like you know, oh the Bigfoots

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are coming for dinner. Tight not that they would, but
you know, if my kids said I was in the
woods and you know, my dad hunts, you'd probably say
hunts bigfoot or research, which is when we met them
and we were interacting with them. No one would believe you.
But I don't care what anybody else says. I would
believe it. And then of course I call you and

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like get your ass down the Florida, you know, or
wherever we are. I'm like, come on down, you know,
and hopefully they go.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Dave, how do you know me?

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, I'm gonna walk in there and I'm just gonna
like doff my cap and you know, all the big
foot out there, all the dog man. You know, hey,
thank you. Keep the alligators and the sharks away, if
you don't mind, that'd be.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Perfect, that would be really good. But you know, they
probably have a world of information that is really really
important for us as human beings. You know, how we
conduct ourselves. Not to get old, sappy or whatever, but
you know, they can say you're not doing things right

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if you just I've got a Native American friend that said,
do you when you go out, do you sit there
for twelve hours and just meditate? And I'm like, probably don't.
That's a little bit too, you know, attention deficit. But
I do try to meditate prior and I do a
meditation prior to going for a week, you know, every

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day I do remote view of it, and then when
we get there, when I go out, I do a
meditation and try to connect with them on a on
a consciousness level, saying I'm here, I don't want to
get hurt. I don't want you to get hurt. The
weapon I have is for protection against other predators that

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may want to harm me, and if I have to
do something to take their life, I will get you know,
I humbly give it to you to use your assustenance.
That's exactly I get it.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
That's exactly what Tim and I do when we when
we go out the force. We don't put it on
camera because it's not for show, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, when we go out there, we we we
thank them for allowing us to be in their area
for the night. We then tell them that we are armed.

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You know, we do have pointy sticks with us, and however,
we do make it clear that if that if something paranormal, supernatural,
cryptid or anything comes forward, we will not raise that
pointy stick too.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Though.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
This is to protect ourselves from the predators of the
animal animal kingdom that that rule that area. I mean,
you don't have grizzly bears, man, Grizzly bears, don't care.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
I don't be.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Black bulls. You know, wolf packs, black bears.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
We have wolves. We have some bear, but not the
size that you would get on the grizzly.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
And you do have big cats too like us.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh yeah, we we have Florida. I don't want to
send the name, but you know who I'm talking about. Panthers.
Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, okay, Florida panthers. And then and
they're they're endangered. I still I believe, but you know,
you do have a certain leeway if your life is

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being threatened and the bores are nuts, they'll go right
at you and they have the huge tusks and they
will destroy you. And they're pretty damn quick in the
long run that they're really really fast. Yes, Mark Eddie.
We also have cougars, two legged cougars down in Florida.

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But uh so we when we go out, it's not
like we you know, we have a law enforce from
people with us too. And one of the guys that
was a forensic guy in NYPD, so he's great. You know,
he knows what to do and how to capture the
evidence so that we can have them send it out

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and get tested. Because we have a lot of theory
about these things on these cryptids, but we don't really
know if it's true or not.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know, Brian Bowden is here for our cryptid world.
You can find him everywhere online because he literally has
about seventeen podcasts a day, running each and every night,
doesn't matter. We love him around here. He's into the cryptids,
he's into the paranormal. He's into UFOs, aliens, conspiracies and
what we're going to get into next. Curses on spaced

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out Radio. All right, we clear. Are you drinking Fanta?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Oh man, I haven't had Fanta in years.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
And I'm also drinking butterscotch moonshine. Oh very nice.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Woo pooh, how are you Morris van den Brusk Buskirk. Yeah,
that is the alter ego of Susan in Edmonton. She
keeps trying to say, oh, this is my boyfriends I
d am using his computer. No way, man, she is

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complete spy network JF. How are you look at you go?
Brian having a dart and everything beautiful? David Kenya welcome.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Call him a dart. That's great. Better when the English call.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Him, uh luscious jewels. I hate snakes. I freak out
with snakes around.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Really.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Oh good to know everybody.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Oh buddy, let me tell you tell you this story.
So one night, one day, it was on a Sunday,
My buddy Mike and I are out getting firewood. Okay,
and we're loading up the back of my truck. So
we're about I don't know, sixty seventy feet in into
the trees and I bucking up the wood and you know,

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you gotta It's one of those ones where you have to,
you know, make a pile and then you get and
then you have to make another pile before you get
it to the road. So we're picking up logs, we're
throwing them down towards the vehicle, and right in front
of me there's about a three foot garter snak wrapped

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up right on the rock to the exit.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Now, oh that's sweet.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
And I look at Mike and I said, I said,
oh my god, there's a snake. And he looks, he goes, well,
we're stuck. I said, we're never going to get out
of here. Man, He goes, I know, we're We might
as well just burn the whole forest down because we're stuck.
A little a little garter snake of oh this big

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freak me out. Freak me out. Don't like snakes.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I used to play with those and pick them up.
I've been on actually investigation it in the woods and
we have copper heads that go pass by.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Oh, no, see that, and that would freak me.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
We have also water moccasins. Actually, I went fishing in
a lake in Connecticut and I hooked the water moccasin.
What do you do? I didn't realize at the time.
My buddy like the first catch of the day. I'm like,
why do you why do you unhooked? You know? What'd
you cut me? He goes, you hook the water moccasin
and he didn't look happy. I was like, uh, yeah,

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those are very aggressive.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, that's where you take your your nine millimeter and
you just put it right into the lake. Man, Just
you look at it. You just fill that sucker full
of lead.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah. I mean in Florida, you know, we have a
lot of Floridians down that they know how to handle stuff.
They've been handled snake. They have a lot of poisonous
snakes down there, and then they have stakes that look
like poisons. They have a black razor snake that is
probably five foot long or more and it hangs out

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like to hang out by the water and it takes
care of the poison a snake. So you kind of
leave certain things alone.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
No, yeah, no, not me.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
And I haven't had the are the dreamsicle. But I'm intrigued. Now.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I will say this though, I would like to go
into the swamps of Florida just so I could see
an alligator in the wild and number one, but number two.
That way I could get a chameleon because they're everywhere there.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
You just come to my community because we have them
in the in the ponds. There's all these like water
ponds around Florida and we have two alligators.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now, yeah, no, I would want to. I wanted to
be honest with you. Fear as side, I would love
to fish for the snakeheads down there, because then you
can just club them and throw them right back into
the water so the alligators can eat them. That would
be kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
There's a lot of money to be made on the pythons.
And we have a green iguana that is eating the
indigenous red iguanas. And if you pop them with the
bb pellet, the steak gives you twenty five bucks each
Wow's And then they don't want them, so then you

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sell them to another company and they make food out
of it. Oh wow, they call it chicken from the tree. Yeah,
you can make a lot of money. Just I have
a buddy down there that makes money getting rid of
some of these things like frogs and toads and snakes
and whatever. You made ninety dollars in cash.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Hold on right there, we got fifteen seconds still waiting
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the Space Travelers Club. Here's Bridon Bowden. He is a researcher,
he's an author. He's been on television talking all things
monsters and legends, and he loves what we do and
we are going to get into curses with him right
here on Space Out Radio. Brian, welcome back, Thank you

(31:24):
for having me.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, interesting stuff, curses, really really interesting how it works
and depending on if it's hudoo, voodoo, tuntaiea, and then
you get into the old world magic the send curses.
I watched this one guy I'm Gonna have I just

(31:47):
was in contact with them on the show. He's I think,
ye old goth witch and he learned everything from his nana.
I believe in Appalasia, and it's just interesting listening to, Like,
if you have somebody, he tells you all these different curses.
If you want to, you know, button someone's lip, they'll

(32:08):
tell you exactly how to prepare it and what you
need and how to put it together. And I tried
one thing because we had some people that were just
talking stuff and they wouldn't keep your name out of
their mouth. So I tried something with the well you
write there, you write their name on a piece of

(32:29):
paper and you fold it away from you and then
you burn it. But when you're burning it, you.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
You you say something's the effect.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Of you, you will no longer have my name, will
no longer be in your mouth, It burns away like
these ash or something to that effect. And I just
tried it because I had a couple of people in
the community that were just being you know, I'm not
gonna say because we're censored, but and it seemed to

(33:01):
stop them from you know, talking things that aren't true
and trying to discredit you for you know, I was
running for a seat on the board.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
But there's some other stuff you can do.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I mean, I know people that are chaos, which is
they create chaos spells and they send them to you
so that your life becomes chaotic. And I've asked, I'm like,
you know, like how can you prove that? And this

(33:35):
person said, I'm friends I used to be friends with
this person, someone who's had a YouTube channel that I knew,
And at one point they went like whatch Like they
went nuts. It was like really all over the place,
very chaotic, and we thought maybe they were having an

(33:56):
issue or health problem whatever. And apparently that that person
that's the chaos witch that now I put that on
them because they were spreading rumors and lies and causing
me problems, so you don't have time for problems. I

(34:16):
already likee is problematic as it is, so I sent
out that spell to them. I mean, technically you're not
supposed to play around with it.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
But you know, look at you being all dangerous like
that question for you regarding the whole cursing aspect of everything. Right,
this has been going on for hundreds, if not thousands
of years where spirituality has been tested, going back in
Greek Roman times, we have it going back to Egypt.

(34:49):
Everything cursing in the Bible of people. I mean, this
is something that has been taken seriously throughout the spiritual
world for millennia. I mean, this isn't something that people
should be shocked about.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
No, it's not. I mean, if you've read the Bible,
there's tons of curses. The Ten Plagues were curses, you know,
especially you know, the last one of the first born
to be unalived during Egypt, the Egyptian period. But there
have always been sorcerers, medicine people, and actually all medicine

(35:29):
men are are basically not a curse.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
It's the opposite. They're doing spell work.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
A curse is something you can do to somebody you're
better off, and the chromatic scale of doing something good
for people and saying, listen, I'm putting this out to
make my friends and everybody's lives better. And what you
give you get tenfold. So why would you know you

(35:59):
wouldn't really want want to start cursing people, or I
don't play with the magic, you know, I just find
it fascinating and I like to see. I've seen some
good results with it for other people that have gone
to uh spell makers or casters or witches, or they've
had pretty good results. You know, the problem is is

(36:21):
that a psychological playing around with your mind saying like
now you're cursed, and all of a sudden you believe
it and you're not really cursed. You just it's the
belief portion of the program. You know. They you know,
something good happens, like it must be that spell. I
have a lucky quarter, you know, that's where it comes from,

(36:41):
you know, but it doesn't really hurt too much if it,
you know, helps you out. I mean I tell everybody
right now, like, so when you go out and you
in your daily life, you should have some kind of
salt in your I used to put it in a

(37:02):
sandwich bag. You know, the ziplocks, but it looks too
much after it, you know, you have too much of
it there. It looks like another substance you can get
arrested for. So what I usually tell people is, when
you go to a restaurant they have those salt packets,
grab them, put a couple in your pocket, put them
in your car.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
And if you're ever going into.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Your boss to talk about a raise or something that
may have come up, put sprinkle a little salt in
your shoes before.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
You go in.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
And it somehow it protects you. And salts been used
as a protected since the beginning of time. They use
it for everything. They create salt circles to protect you
from you know, negative energies or demons and that stuff.
So it's it. It does work, but some people take

(37:54):
it too far. That's the problem with everything.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Have you ever been cursed?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I was told there was a curse on my family someplace,
and I actually had. I was friendly with somebody and
we kind of like, I didn't want I don't do
anything demonic, so I definitely don't want to do a
book in format, a book about demons. So I was
pissed off, said I don't want to do it, and

(38:20):
they knew I didn't want to do it, and they
then they wouldn't talk to me because they didn't like
my tone. But I know that this individual does curses
practice who do in Santa Ria, and I'm very cautious
on how I deal with certain individuals that are practicing.
I don't leave hair samples. I don't I will not

(38:43):
leave something i've had, like this drink in my hand.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
It's touched my lips.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
That's personalized, and I do my best not to get
cursed by somebody. But I'm also a decent human being,
actually really more than a dec human I'm a good guy.
But if they want to go that route, I know
other people that are can do some good stuff too.
The weird part is the Santa Ria part, which I'm

(39:12):
not very familiar with. But I asked all my friends
that are from the Latin countries about, like, yeah, yeah,
we practiced that because it's like a hoodoo voodoo and
they have these spirits and I've seen I've seen someone's
brother sitting in the chair talking to another chair that

(39:33):
was empty, and I'm like, what's going on with your brother?
He goes, oh, no, he's talking to the spirit of
something and I'm like, there's nobody there, and said, well,
we practice Santa Ria. There is somebody there, and something
moved on the table and he wasn't near there, so
he was talking to some kind of spirit there and

(39:56):
I think he was trying to convince that to make
them an offering so they can tect them from something.
But it was weird to see because it's a religion
for some of these people, and you don't want to,
you know, upset them when they have a religion. You know,
that's blasphemy.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
No is cursing still quite popular today, just we don't
know about it because we're all more individualized and less
spiritual for the most part.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Do you know what there's a lot of well I
don't know what it's like on Instagram or even on Facebook,
but I see a ton of it's basically females, and
I see a ton of them that.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Are say they're practicing witches.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I think it's pretty big for the female side of
the of the humanity and young females and they get
involved in because I've met a couple of people that
got involved in that type of stuff and then they
went from like light witchcraft into almost dark magic, and
one person went into almost satanism, and then they got

(41:06):
pulled back, they got saved, they were born again at
that point. And they said, it's a very slippery slope.
Once you start down that path, you can have a problem.
But we we all do. I mean, I'm sure you've
done it too. Whenever you do whenever you play with pendulums.
You know, you can use a pencil as a pendulum

(41:27):
and you can ask it to be yes, no. You
just take a piece of paper yes, no, maybe whatever
and spin it and you ask the spirit for help
and it will dictate no different than a plant chet.
And that also is technically a little witchcrafty. But I

(41:47):
don't really like to play with it, like you know,
it's I think people are chris to begin with. Just
look at their lives. What you see in public is
not what's going on in the background, very very rarely,
and I think people play around with stuff they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I was cursed once, really by a witch, and she
was she was hell bent because everything she wanted to
I was learning with her, not witchcraft, but with my
all of my experiences that I kind of got fast

(42:28):
tracked with and she hated the fact that I was
getting more attention in our group of friends than she was,
and she ended up cursing me and and taking turning
a bunch of friends and even my own daughter against me.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
It's it's actually bizarrely easily to do. There's a lot
of jealousy in there. It's they want the fame and
the glamor. I think I was curse because there was
interested in somebody and it went from like casual, like oh,
that's you know, they're cute, to a little a lot
more obsessive. And when I finally you know, I was

(43:13):
talking to about the psychic for our group about something
and I was like, she said, you're way into there's
something more going on here, and she pulled me back
said focus. We started working on focusing and resetting ourselves.
And then I started seeing better and she said, cut
cut this cord, and cut it. And the minute I

(43:35):
did the even the imaginary cutting of the cord saying
I'm done with this, I was instant daous, like I
like I woke up from a spell.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
It was bizarre.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
And I know the other person that I was friendly
with that is also practicing things. She's used other people
in my life to try to send me stuff and
I won't receive it. You know, look, oh I got
a blesshy I'm like, yeah, okay, and I throw it
in the garbage. I will not take possession, like physically
touch the metal. So a lot of times I get

(44:12):
things that are in envelopes and you know, like you
get a Solomon's necklace and nope, I know who it's from,
and they're just pissed off because I didn't. I didn't
want to do what they wanted me to do, and
I pretty much caught onto their game and I wasn't supcoming.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I think it has to do with free will, a
lot more free will.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Jealousy seems to play a big part of it. Like
you said, you know, I mean, what can a curse
do against someone who's jealous. I mean, like, let's say
I was jealous of you. I didn't ask that very clearly.
Let's say I was jealous of you and put a
curse on here. What does the jealousy do?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
You're jealous of me and you curse me because you're
jealous and your reasons are whatever. You know, I have,
as you said, nine thousand podcasts and you want nine
thousand podcasts if it's justified, and you put a curse
on and the spirits feel that, you know that, Yeah,
you're over extending yourself on your shows and you have

(45:24):
to be a little bit more diplomatic.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
It may affect me. Maybe my shows start to tank.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Okay, here's the caveat if you there's a lot of
love spells that people do. They fall in love with
somebody and they send a love spell to someone, and
if that person is really truly not in love with
that person or not even attracted to them, or they're

(45:52):
not guilty of whatever thing you're saying that they're guilty of,
that stuff comes right back to you tenfold. So you
gotta to be very careful on how you cast things
out to people, because if they truly don't deserve it,

(46:15):
the universe has its own way of settling, Like you know,
the rules they have to be. You know, they have
to have committed that crime in harm or whatever to
deserve that, and what if they don't, it comes back
to you. And I've heard horror stories from people sending

(46:38):
love spells out and not only does the person not
love them, but any type of relationship they had with
them is real over like there, it's now like war
of the roses, like they hate them. So the reverse
happens if you try to break up a marriage or
a relationship that way too, that comes it gets into

(47:01):
the karmosome.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Karma is real. It's super real.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
What about the idea of if you deflect a curse,
you can reverse it back on the person who cursed
you and they get it back tenfold.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
You can. It's always tenfold. But what's really interesting is,
I don't know if you've said I've seen this. Usually
in the Italian sector. Italian you know, like people like
Little Italy whatever. Some of the old ladies will always
wear necklaces and they're over here that are very like
a mirror. They do that purposely. So if you try

(47:40):
to send the evil eye towards them, it hits the
mirror and it bounces back to them. So that's a
defensive mechanism.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
And it usually is tenfold.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
That's like the law of the universe apparently, and that's
been there to go back in the history books, you'll
see tenfold that will return. You know, if you do good,
it'll it'll return to you tenfold. What you put out
is what you get. And I've experienced that. And have

(48:12):
you ever been really pissed off and you're like whatever,
and you're in a pissy mood and then something happens and.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Deer nicks your car and you're like, oh, here we go.
And then it keeps propagating and propagating. And that's because
the negativity begets negativity. I actually I worried about being
cursed at one point because I was having a really
bad day. I couldn't do something. I couldn't this woman

(48:41):
help ask me for help in the neighborhood, never met her.
I'm like, I'm sorry, I can't help you, you know,
because I had other things that to do and I
had to get back and the way she stopped me
and she goes, oh you couldn't help me, Oh you're
gonna get some help. And she said it like she
was sending something my way. But I did have a
little issues here and there, and I did have a

(49:04):
couple of people say I think you may have been
cursed at one point, but it wasn't powerful enough, or
it may have worn off. These curses do wear off.
Generational curses they go for a long, long.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Time, What would cause or how would somebody know if
they were generationally cursed.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
You probably have to go to like a psychic medium
or someone that like really practices let's say, who do voodoo,
a real real witchcraft. It's not like an older person
that really knows how to communicate with whatever the spirits
are involved. And there are probably certain markers there that
they can see and like, yeah, you're cursed.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
They can see like I.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Know, my our psychic she said, you have something right
out your window right now, waiting for that one moment
to come in and jump on you. But that could
be the building too. But it could be a generational curse.
And contrary to what everybody says, I believe you can
rebuke them. If you're not responsible for what happened thirty

(50:14):
forty fifty years ago, it has nothing to do with you,
then that curse should not be traveling through your lineage.
That's just my two cents.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
How do you release a curse?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Well, I don't know. Sometimes there are other You gotta
really get the individual that curse you to release it,
and there may be ways of bartering that. From what
I understand, I don't know if you can actually have
somebody under the spell work of another. But I think

(50:51):
you can have somebody do something to put up enough
defensiveness that it kind of neutralizes it, so it's a
negative effect, and that may be like undoing the curse.
But I do believe that the original person that put
a curse on you has to remove the curse from
you or forgive you.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
You know, I guess God could pretty powerful one there.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, I'm hoping. But have you noticed that there are
laws to the universe?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Right, Yes, there are laws to the universe. But with
two minutes two and a half minutes to go here
before we go to break at the at the top
of the hour, we were talking curses with Brian Bowden
on our Cryptid World. Is it just human second curse
or can animals curse?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
That's a good question. I don't know if an animal
can curse, but I know animals are.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Used in curses.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Like there's a curse this guy did the ye old
goth the wedge where it creates you just have massive
body odor, unlike really bad body odor, and there's nothing
you can do about it. And he said, I did.
He goes he was being bullied in school by a

(52:16):
couple of kids, and he actually did that to these
kids and it worked, and it worked enough where he
stopped it after a while, but they got the message.
They didn't realize they were being cursed, but no one
talked to them, and everybody still stayed away from them.
So it's kind of interesting. It's fun stuff. I want

(52:42):
a lot of you know, winning Now.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
The big question about cursing though, getting back to people,
if you were cursed, how would you even know.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
You would? Well if unless you're in the subject matter
like we are in this stuff, we said, well maybe
I'm cursed, you wouldn't someone else would possibly give you
recognition that maybe you're cursed, and that.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Would be like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Well, go see my you know, card reader and you
they may be able to see if you're cursed or not.
And there may be almost like an urr about you
that like a beacon that says this one has something
on them. But that's the only way you're going to know,
otherwise to just live your life like nothing goes right

(53:30):
for me whatever, buh of uh, And maybe they unlive
themselves or it's just the fact life you don't have.
I mean, I know a couple of people. If you
if you have a room with with a hundred chairs
in it, this verse is gonna sit in a chair
that's broken every time. Some people just have you know,

(53:54):
it's bad luck, you know. But if you know about
this stuff, you like, I was strong garbage out in
our apartment building and I saw a clear bottom on
the bottle on the floor and on the middle cap
there was an N written in like a sharpie, and

(54:15):
I'm like, that may be Santa Ria. We have people
that practice Santa Ria around this neighborhood in New York City.
Because you drive down a couple of streets, I'm like,
is that a chicken? Yeah? You see the goat tied
up to the tree on the other side.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Brian Bowden, Our one is done. Hour two coming up
next we're you get into his favorite dog man stories
when we return.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
Is faced out break here with hopes?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
All right, buddy, We're gonna take a quick break here.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I'll be right back. Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Do you want to take a break and they'll put
you in the green room or do you want to
hang out with the people.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Oh, I hang out with the people. I'm smoking a cigarette,
all right, I want to say a thing. I'll answer
some questions. I'll be right back. Yeah, supernatural station. How
you doing? Yeah? Who was it that asked if they
if you can curse yourself? And I think you can
curse yourself. My dad would say it's called marriage. You know.

(55:38):
I don't really play around with that. I just find
it fascinating how it works. Yes, I am Joe. I
think a teen's good for you. It's something I gotta
stop eventually too. But I don't do anything else, so

(56:01):
might as well. Yeah, a lot of gray areas, a

(56:26):
lot of folklore comes from. It's really weird. This is
why I like this guy, ye old goth witch, because
his grandmother used to teach him these things. Now she
probably heard it from her her parents and so on
and so forth. But this is just like everything else where.

(56:48):
They find out what plants are good for you, don't
eat that one that other guy died from doing it,
you know, they find out where the poison is, and
you know, I think it's a little bit of folklore
and a little bit of magic.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Am I with Space Out Radio?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I am helping Dave out in this time slat for
a little bit because the original individual was not doing well,
so we're wishing them prayers, healing, recovery, blessings, and I
would like to be sleeping right now. It's been on

(57:31):
a long, long day. I think you can in some
of them, you can reverse a curse, but I don't
think all of them. You know, sometimes curses, all you
got to do is sometimes is tell them that you

(57:53):
just put a curse on them, and their psychology their
mind will just play tricks on them a lot of
it's just how you say it, and there's nothing curse
related to it. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. No,

(58:20):
they're not saying that. No, it has nothing to do
with those novels at all. Dog Man is just the
name because it's a dog. It looks to bipedal CRYPTI
that looks like a canine or a dog. Thanks wuk,

(58:54):
that's great. With the Dutch oven, that's awesome. Yeah, that
could be a curse. Jaquetta, I believe the same thing.
It's all about how you go about life. That's why

(59:19):
I really, I mean, I have a belief in God.
I'm very spiritual, but I have a belief in God,
and I believe if you're a good individual, good things
will happen to you, and you'll be protected from harm
by others. You know, anything that comes out of jealousy
or one of the sins, the lust and all that stuff.

(59:40):
It's already in a negative state, so it's not necessarily
going to work. But I'm sure there's a couple of
witches and warlocks and the chat that know a lot more.
But I just find it fascinating. Yeah, truth seeker, That's

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what I was trying to say, Like, there are rules
to the universe, and sometimes what happens is like when
when evil is gonna do something, they have to warn you.
They say, hey, we're gonna do X, Y and Z,
and if nobody says or box at it, then your
silence becomes consent in the universal term.

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every night right here on spaced out Radio, let us
bring in Brian Bowden, the Man, the myth, the paranormal legend,
as he breaks down dog Man right now. Now Here's
one of the things that scares the daylights out of me, Brian,
is the thought of encountering this creature.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
You have done it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
You have seen it with your own eyes, this werewolf
like creature that stands between seven and eight feet tall.
It never has a good feeling to it. Tell us
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Some of my favorite cryptid I don't like them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I've had two really nice encounters with them where I
think the first encounter was at about a twelve to
fifteen foot distance and it was at night, and I
think I made it perplexed by my actions that I
was doing. I was doing something that I'm at a
dominant saying that I'm the alpha and you're not. And

(01:03:32):
the second one was by accident because I was taking
some I was taking some people to go see Bigfoot
or trying to get a big foot sighting or a
three knocks or something like that, and the path that
they were supposed to go on was overgrown. I wasn't
up in New York at the time, so I didn't
realize and that the path was covered up. So they

(01:03:53):
went down the wrong path and we came up against something.
It was probably about six seven foot and it looked
like the soldier type of dog man, but like a
younger version of it. Big big, big canines, and the
lip was curled and you know, it had the long

(01:04:17):
long claws on the on the hands. I didn't see
the feet because it was only from like the waist up.
There was about twenty yards out and it basically started
to like, you know, growl, like a low level and
possibly infrasound based. And the two people that encounted it
were not prepared for it. So I walked them out.

(01:04:39):
They were going to turn around and go and like,
don't turn around, walk backwards, and they still don't talk
to me to this day, so it really played on
their psyche.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
It's unnerving. It really is unnerving.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
It's not something you want to say. It's it's literally
like the van helsing and or in American werewolf in London.
You don't want to see that, you know, when you
think of something like on all fours, we were thinking
like puppy dogs, and you know German shepherds pretty imposing,

(01:05:16):
but that German shepher would be one hundred thousand percent
more imposing if it was seven feet tall, wouldn't it,
And then growling at you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
It's it's not a good creature. I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
How do you know if you're in a dog man area.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
They make they make structures too, like Bigfoot. You know
Bigfoot does the lean you know the lean to you know,
trees and the xes some stars on the ground. Dog
Men like to go like a notch up. They're like
the rock stars of making these things. They physically pull
tries out of the ground and the roots are there,

(01:05:57):
and then they turned them upside down and then they
connect other trees to it, so they make almost like
an umbrella. It's very impressive when you see a docment's
work because it's heavy duty. You can see the strength
in these animals or cryptids or whatever they are to

(01:06:20):
pull a three foot diameter tree out of the ground,
even a one foot is it would be virtually impossible
for human beings and keep the root system on it.
So you know, I've seen up the three feet and
I actually walked under one. I had photos of it,
and my buddy Al had photos of it, and for

(01:06:42):
some reason we put them online in a repository and
we can't find them. I mean, they were good photos.
It's a perfect example of a dog man structure. They
do that, and they usually have you know, we want.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
To call them centuries.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
They walked the perimeter, and they they're very much more
aware of of their surroundings. But if you have dogmen,
you have bigfoot and vice versa, and you usually have
something that separates them. So you'll have a river or
a mountain or something that says you stay on your

(01:07:27):
side and will stay in our side, because they do
not get along with each other for the most part.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
What is the creepiest dog man's story you've ever heard?

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Something was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Kind of unnerving, but and I don't know if I've
ever mentioned on this show, but there was maybe it
was Vic, I don't remember who who said it, but
it was really creepy for and you'll understand why. Guy
goes out hunting in the woods, and you know, he

(01:08:13):
goes it's a hunting weekend. He drives a couple hundred miles,
two hundred miles to his destination and he's ready to
set up.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
He's going to be in the woods. He's going to go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Camping and hunting. And when he comes up against a
dog man, he's walking through the woods got three oh eight,
and this thing comes out of nowhere and kind of
just makes its presence known. The guy freaks out and
he's taking the rifle and he's you know, he doesn't know.

(01:08:46):
He's scared. At this point. Again, you're seeing a seven
foot werewolf. This should not exist. And he hears the
dog man say in his mind, don't do it, meaning
don't pull that trigger, warning him, and he pulls the

(01:09:07):
trigger and he keeps it. He unleashes an entire magazine
into this thing. Well, he gets out of there as
fast as possible. He's reload. He gets in his car
and he drives two hundred miles back to his place.
He's freaked out. He doesn't want to talk to anybody
about it. And he lives in a house that is

(01:09:29):
in the suburbs, but there there's some wooden property in
his house. It's not like real real like deep woods.
But and in under twenty four hours, he has four
dog men at his house and they are looking to
kill him unlive him. They tracked him for two hundred

(01:09:51):
miles and he tracked him to his home for two
hundred miles.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
How scent do you understand? The radius of hunting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
For a regular wolf, like like a you know, a
Koi wolf, to one hundred and fifty mile radius, it's
not unheard of. Now take something that's bigger, and I'm
sure they're I'm sure they're hunting radius is further than that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
But I also.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Believe that, like every human being has some kind of
electronic signature to them created through their DNA, like a
unique electronic identifier that says your day of on Brian
and everybody's there's just Jeff Carvey there and and you know,
and they know who's who's who, And they may have

(01:10:46):
tapped into that frequency. But I think from what I understand,
I would wager it was they literally did it with
scent alone, and they surrounded his house and they ripped
it two shreds and he barely got out alive. I mean,

(01:11:09):
they really messed him up. They went in, I mean
knocked the door down, totally ripped through everything, and went
crazy because they were protecting their pack. Now, from my
personal experience, even when we came up on that young one,

(01:11:29):
I think that was my accident. I don't think that
thing was expecting us to be there, and I'm sure
as heck wasn't going in that direction, you know, telling
them to go there. I think it was one of
those you bump into things. I just saw something out
of Canada where this guy's going down to striveway and
the bear's coming out is and they kind of look
at each other and you know, they both run this

(01:11:49):
opposite direction like cartoon ESQ. So normally for me, dog
men they have if you have one in front of you,
you're having you have another one on your six. They
work in pairs. It's like a pack mentality. So that
was pretty creepy that they would track them that far

(01:12:11):
down and do what they did. But another one I
got from a gentleman. I had an encounter or an
experience with dog and I told it on the show.
I went to my cousin's house in Delaware, but I
stayed in Maryland and right over the border exit one
O nine if you want on ninety five. And I said,

(01:12:33):
this is pretty. It had a vibe to it, like
the woods behind the hotel had a vibe. And there's
a railroad track, so there's a pathway for the sink
to travel without getting seen. So I looked up where
wolves Elkton, Maryland. Sure enough, husband and wife were driving

(01:12:53):
down not that far from this hotel as actually, and
they saw a roadkill and something eating the road kill,
and they thought it was a dog or something until
the dog stood up and it had the big amber
eyes and stayed on two feet. And they both said
that this thing like got in there their brain and
like messed with them, scared the hell out of them.

(01:13:15):
They went home and for a couple of weeks they
were having nightmares of this thing, as if telepathically they
you know, this thing like you need to go now
or will kill you or whatever they you know they do.
But I get count, you know, so I'm having experience
at this hotel enough where I heard something. I saw
the amber eyse the big ambrize and they kept moving.

(01:13:37):
I heard the foot you know, you know, fall on
the leaves and then I heard something kind of creeping
up on the right side, and I'm like, I'm out.
I was very uncomfortable. I got the just that it
wasn't a good vibe, and I went back into the
hotel room and I told the other half, like, don't

(01:13:59):
go to the side entrance. There's you know, I made
it up skunks or whatever. If you're going to smoke
a cigarette. They're very attractive to cigarette smoke. That's why
a lot of people that get attacked by them are
always out uh with cigarettes or walking the dog and
have cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
But I honestly can I never put that together, because
tobacco has always been an offering of peace and friendship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Not for everybody, not for the dog men. No, maybe
they're jones then, because but they're very attracted to it.
They like to smell, and they know that throughout history.
If you're smoking outside your home, you're usually alone. They're
not gonna they'll know if there's a pack, But ninety

(01:14:48):
percent of the time you just run out you have
your cigarettes. You don't want to smoke in the house,
or you got yelled at stop smoking the house, so
you go smoke it outside and you're by yourself. And
you're by yourself for a couple of minutes. Easy prey,
but you know, so I you know, what unnerved me
was when someone heard that my experience. They live near there,

(01:15:12):
and this was kind of freaky. He said, My daughter
was running on I've got the roadway, but the roadway
has old railroad tracks on it in the woods, and
then it also has a couple of pathways. And she's
an avid runner. She's young, and she said that when
she started running, she felt uneasy, like she was being watched.

(01:15:38):
So she took her headphones off and was running, and
she heard something in the woods pacing her everywhere she went,
so she would move a little bit to the right,
so would move over to the right, and she got
to a certain point where there are other cars there,
and she kind of got away and ducked the way. Eventually,

(01:16:00):
but you stop running in that area and he's gone out.
The father went out there because he was I think
he was former law enforcement and you got to protect
the kid. And he's like, when I got out there,
I felt I was by myself. No one's on the road.
It's a rural country road, and he goes, something was

(01:16:21):
definitely watching me. My Spidey sense is kicked in and
he was, you know, he was going to go in
the woods to look for tracks or whatever it was.
But his daughter, he told her, don't, don't. Don't run
by those that area anymore. Find a different place to run.
That's weird. Like when they start they start stalking you.

(01:16:43):
That's what's the what's the angle here? Now?

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
You got to think like, am I the prey?

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Now? You know? You know if you have an experience
when you go out there, because you do have big foot,
you very well could have dog man And I'll be
you're really honest. Have you ever hunted moose?

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
I've been on moose hunts?

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Yes, okay, So when you hunt moose, you don't shoot
the moose in the chest. You shoot it from the
side right, yes, Why.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Because it exposes the heart more.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah, and because there's so much flesh built up, it
almost acts as a bulletproof vest.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
That's so I always tell people, I said, one, if
you can get out without shooting at it, it'd be
your best option because the other way is a death sentence.
They do not take kindly to it. And you putting
a bullet and it's just going to be you're just
pissing it off. In order to really take this thing down,
you have to use heavy and higher caliber fifty and

(01:17:49):
then you have to go for the you know, the
sweet set bots, because if you don't, if you don't
take it out and you piss it off and it
calls in others, you're not that fast enough, it's going to.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
Take you out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
All you need to remember is if you're out in
the forest and you see something big tracking you down,
just tell your slowest friend sorry, and you know, kick
him in the leg so they fall and you can
get out just safely.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
It's just that easy. Like we got to bring Timmy,
why he's got a wheelchair, Like, don't worry about it,
just bring Timmy. Or in our case, we can bring
Mark Eddie in Mark and you know, use him as bait.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
We could use Mark as bait. I'm okay with that.
I love Mark. I really do love Mark. He's amazing,
you know, but a.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Wonderful human being is and I'm my one show. But yeah,
like that. That's the creepy part about it. The thing
can track you that distance, and then the other one's
tracking you to get you know, pacing you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
That is where it gets weird, very very weird.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Five minutes ago before we have to go to break,
let's hear another dog man encounter that put the goosebumps
on you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Now, one that was pretty cool was a woman lived
up by a logging road. I don't know what they
may have been, Maine or Washington. Aren't going to Washington,
I forgot the state. And she's the type you know,
she has that living off the land thing in the cabin,
walking a dog, and she walks the dog at night whatever.
And as she's walking down this logging road and he's

(01:19:32):
getting the rocks thrown in her, she's like, what's you know,
what the heck's going on? And she keeps walking down
the path. The dog keeps going rocks, more rocks, and
they're coming in. She's like, I don't understand what the
hell's you know, trying to figure out who's kicking up
the rocks, figuring maybe it was a dog, but it wasn't.
And she gets to a certain point and a bigfoot

(01:19:55):
steps out into the roadway like trying to block her,
so she freaks out. The dog's nuts, The dog takes off.
He continues to go straight, so she's running down there
and trying to get her dog and also get the
hell away from the Bigfoot, and not that far down
that road, she said, we came up against two or

(01:20:19):
three things that looked like where wolves having a party,
and basically what was happening is and then she turned
around and went back. But basically the Bigfoot was trying
to stop her from going down there because you knew
there were dogmen down there. And that was a pretty
damn cool story.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
I think these things know what we are as human beings,
and like, you know, they don't want that woman to
be had for dinner. What about the telepathy with a
dog man, Yeah, that's she I didn't have any of
that telepathy. I'm waiting for that moment, you know. But
a lot of reports that a lot of people saying

(01:21:02):
that they felt the dog men is in their mind.
It's almost like they when they saw their the yellow
eyes and the eyes kind of like almost got bigger
in size, felt like they were talking to them, and
they went into their soul and they had nightmares after
nightmares with that, and they both like parties, Like the

(01:21:25):
husband and wife that that came on, came up on
this thing. They both had the same nightmare. So was
it a nightmare or were they able to get to
them through a dream state because they knew how to come.
You know that they were connected to you can go
out the cash record, but source of information, and they

(01:21:48):
invaded their dreams. I've heard tons of stories of people
like they you know, they felt like they've been they
were being talked to stay out of the woods, stay
out of the woods. And I know people that don't
go in the woods anymore because they've had an encounter
with that cryptid and.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
No one goes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
You won't believe me when I tell you, And I
tell them, like I investigate all this crazy stuff, just
tell me. And they had they had a dog man
encounter and I said, well, we're gonna go in the woods.
We'll all go. There's nope, not going in there. The
thing got in my brain and it was talking to
him at night, and it really messes them up. Whereas

(01:22:25):
when I hear the Bigfoot mind, you know, the mind
speak or whatever they want to call it, it's you know,
a lot simpler, it's very it's more cordial, and it's
a peaceful thing. They feel a lot of people report
like this is great I had this peaceful moment I
was talking to this huge creature and then they'll give
you the name of it and whatever. You know. That's

(01:22:49):
why I don't like this. I really hate the damn
dog man. I hate it. It's just there's nothing positive
going for it, even though nothing happened to me on
both occasions. And I'm actually hearing more and more encounters
where the dogmen are running from humans when they sight
him in in the forest. Is something came into an

(01:23:12):
ADP and I believe it was in Manitoba, Canada. There
the guy's walking, you know, went out for a hike
and there's like a stream or something in between him,
and he.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Sees something looks really weird.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
It's walking and he stops to take a look at
it at a clearing. It's on the other side of
the river. And he said this was a bipedal dog
and then it had amber eyes and once it knew
what he was, it kind of got scared away, went

(01:23:46):
on all fours and went through the woods. So we
have stories of them going on all fours too, and
then going to two Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
When we get back from the break here, we're going
to take somebodience questions about dog Man and other creatures.
This is Brian Bowden, our guest tonight on our Cryptid
World right here on spaced Out Radio. You're listening to

(01:24:23):
spaced Out Looking with your host Dave Scott, Michael Goody,
Aaron's how you doing, Sherry Diane, Nice to see you.
Else snuck in that I didn't see.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Moody says that I can't compete with your beard. When
it gets longer hockey season, he comes down. I could
probably be an extra on the Monster. You know, Mutton
Mounsters or JBD. How you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Smoking time?

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
You need a stogy? No, not a smoky you need
a stogy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I have them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
You look you look good smoking a cigar.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Oh, I do play golf if I smoked cigars. My
dad used to smoke fucking tree trunks. He looked exactly
like Glue Albano.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
Did he have the uh the elastic bands pierced to
his face too.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
He had the crazy shirts. The hair was out, and
we put the elastic bands in his beard. My hand
to God, David, we would come out of a lot
of people in Connecticut. They would like, you know, it's
Captain Lou exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
I'll say, Captain Loue Albano was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Yeah, he and and he would wear the shirts open
with his chest exposed and had the same coloring, you know,
that Italian whatever. It was weird, but it'll just look

(01:26:38):
like Loue Albano.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Very nice, very nice.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
Well that's not a good shock as it's older.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
That's a nice good beard there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Oh yeah, yeah. What he had he had a bald
spot in his beard right here. I'm like, Dad, what
what happened? He goes a little baby pepeet on me
and went bald. So one day I didn't know he
did it. He shaved the top of his mustache off,
so he just had the beard and I'm walking through
and I'm like, hey, how's it going, Lincoln? You know,

(01:27:27):
like he was insane. He was a paparazzi. He he
he sold the Jennifer Flowers photos to the Star.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
So wow, Yeah, Paulie Roderman, how are you? I hope
you're well?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Hm hmm. I can't wait to hit the bed. I
gotta get up for the mutt though.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Classy Freddie Blass. He pushed Cosmic Joe with his cane
and called me a pencil neck geek when he.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Was with Hotways.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
That is amazing cosmic. Joe loved classy Freddie Blassie.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
So when I when I there's a hospital down at
where the train, the elevated train is, and one of
my family members was in it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
But I had to leave the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I'm walking out by Columbia University and I'm walking down
the street and who's coming at me.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
George the Animal Steel.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Nice, but he's a professor at Columbia, so he's not
George Animal Steele at that point, and I'm like, George's
Animal Steele. He goes, I'm going to work. Yeah, very nice.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
George the Animal Steele looked like he was seventy years
old at the eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
He did. He just you know, and it was one
of the nicest guys ever. He was a really nice guy.
H some of them were great. I almost interviewed for
physician at WWE, who's WWF at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Though, good buddy of mine was hired to be a
play by play announcer for WWE, and he lasted about
a year year and a half until uh jbl bullied
him right out of the company and he ended up
He ended up having a nervous breakdown over it and

(01:29:41):
sued really yeah, wow, Moro Ronaldo is his name?

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
One second year Brian. Sorry to cut you off there, Mama, Catherine,
Joe and necessary dialogue. Thank you for your great super
chats and thank you to Dutch Hank for joining our
new membership up on our YouTube channel. We very much
appreciate your love everybody. Here we go with the next
half hour coming in seven seconds. Here we go with

(01:30:26):
the second half of spaced Out Radio tonight. My name
is Dave Scott. We got the man, the myth and
the podcast legend, Brian Bowden with us for a great
little diddy that we call our cryptid World. Before we
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(01:31:13):
the man with eight and forty nine podcasts simultaneously running.
We don't know how he does it, but we're gonna
take some audience questions here for you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Thank you for always making time for us.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
It's my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Jarence Carter is kicking things off tonight. What about the
Stephen King movie Thinner? Can you starve a person with
a curse?

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Yes, you can. You can starve a person. You can
bloat a person, you know, a glutton. You can do
anything like that. And it's interesting because I know I've
rememb it in the area. I have family in main
We used to go up there all the time. And
there's something about Carnie people that is a little bit unnerved.

(01:32:02):
And they have these local carnivals and the woman that
was in there.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
That created it, you know, and the gypsy guy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
I've seen those people in person, actually in the town
that they filmed it in, but not the characters, the
people that were doing the carnivals, the local traveling.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Stuff to a t.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Wow, all right, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Let's move on to Jose. He's got a ton of
questions for you. Okay, have dog men ever been seen
in big cities or just a countryside or forest areas.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
In eighteen eighty seven in Broadway of New York City,
a dog man was presented itself there and half of
the West Side Police force was fighting this creature and
shooting at it. It's in the police record. Yes, they

(01:33:01):
do appear in cities. Then again, it's the eighteen hundred,
so it's not as as vast as now. I mean,
they would have a great time in the city.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
All right, let's move on with another one here, my friend, sure, Brian,
have you heard of the story of the military shooting
a dog man and later may have performed an autopsy
on it? Not sure of the latter.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Yeah, I've I got contacted by somebody long lonked about
ten years ago, twenty fifteen ish, because I didn't believe
in the dog man. It was an all zero number
and said USG And I've had that before because I
contact the US Marshalls and it's all zeros. And when
I picked the phone and went hello, and this voice
in the other line was like, oh, so you don't

(01:33:51):
believe in these cryptids or these creatures. They do exist,
And he continued to explain to me he's part of
a unit that comes in. They usually protect the bases
or military installations, but they are sometimes charted out to
go to like these national forests where some of these

(01:34:12):
scryptids go a little bit back, you know, crazy, and
they they surround it and they take it out. One
incident was a couple of years ago they did in Colorado.
There was a report. You'll get a report that some
there's a wild bear or a raby bear or whatever.
So the military took over a forest, a national forest

(01:34:33):
in Colorado, and they put like I don't know, I
remember it was five or fifteen mile radius around it.
And there was one person that says, and he swears
because he lives near there, they would hear the black
you know, the black helicopters fly by, and one night
they heard like a they saw a fleet of them,
and underneath it was this It looked you know when

(01:34:53):
they pick up a body on like the metal thing,
you know, to rescue it. It was kind of like that.
It looked like it was like a like a physical
a really large being underneath there. So yeah, I've heard
about that, and I've also heard that they like to
try to capture them alive and bring them in and
they may they may make super soldiers out of them,

(01:35:15):
because anything that can be used as a killing machine,
you know, our governments want to you know, shot at replicating.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Let's go next to j Truthseeker. What do you think
of a dog man dream? Where in the dream there
is a black dog man that allows you to pet it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
That's actually interesting, It depends.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
That's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Is it like really really detailed where you can see
like and you remember all the details because you may
be having an experience versus a dream. There's two different
parts of that. When you go to sleep, you get
uploaded to source or that you know, and then they
download stuff into you for what they want you to

(01:36:09):
do or what you're going to experience of the day.
And sometimes they leave you a hint or they'll use
you to do something to trigger it down the line,
you know, the next day. And those are experiences. Sometimes
the hints are dreams. They're very vague. But that's very
interesting that there's a black dog that allows you to

(01:36:31):
pet it. I mean maybe you're subconsciously you're hoping that
these things really aren't as violent or evil as a
lot of people portray them. I mean, they're kind of unnerving.
They're very unnerving. So but uh, and then you want
to kind of like subconsciously, you're at your you go

(01:36:53):
to sleep after this show and you have dog men dreams.
I would say that that was psychologically put into your
head because you were watching something with it and you
want to take away the fear of it, so you'll
out you you they let let you pet it. Other
than that that, that's kind of weird. Can they go
in your dreams? Yeah, they've gotten into people's heads, like

(01:37:15):
I just said, so maybe we have a couple of
them that are going to be more of an ambassador
and saying, hey, we're not really that bad, and don't
you know, you know, they need a better PR team.
There's a lot of reports lately in n a DP
on gray or white dogmen, not black and not brown

(01:37:42):
like an all white one. A lot of reports to them.
So I don't know what's going on, but it's it's
kind of you know, it's it's becoming unusual. It's like
one here and there, but now there are more of them.
Maybe they were evolving into another species.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Oh that's interesting, right, let's go to Derek here. Sir
Brian Bowden, do you believe the phenomena targets families. If so,
do you know why.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
I'm assuming wou that the phenomenon of the dog man
as we've been talking about that lately, I think they would.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
I don't know if they would target a family. But
if a family, you know, keeps going out and you know,
the father goes out and the sun's got with shotguns,
there's multiple individuals involved in doing something to the dog
man community, they're going to target everybody. Or if you
we have a case of a Kendle, you know those big, big,

(01:38:45):
you know dogs. There's a person in Kentucky that has
chicken farm and he has candles there, and you know,
the dogs are ginormous and they're a little bit unnerved
by the dogmen, but they feel that they're being targeted
because they have chickens. So if you get rid of

(01:39:06):
the humans and then you get your chickens or whatever
else you want.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
I don't know what chickens have to do with anything,
but that's okay, it's foods. Jose is asking there's a
lot of talk of dogmen from people's perspective. Do you
think that most wild animals like hyenas and lions may
have also crossed paths with them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
I do. I mean I think it were. There's a
chart of like the variance of dogmen, and some of
them look like hyenas, some look more like baboons. Some
it's really weird. I think there are animals that do
cross paths with these, these cryptids or these creatures I've heard.

(01:39:53):
I mean, one of my friends had a place of State,
New York, and he had Jack Russell's and they would
go in the field and start playing with some other dogs.
He's like, oh, those are cool dogs. You know, they're coyotes.
So you know, if you have a hyena and one
of the dog men looks like a hyena, maybe there
is a scent involved with it where they kind of

(01:40:14):
just accept them the animals, and they don't do anything
foolish to them. So it yeah, they very well should
be crossing the path, especially in the wild.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
Next step, let's go to cosmic Joe here, what do
you think about all of the artificial intelligent bigfoot YouTube
videos right now?

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
It's very frustrating and you as a researcher, I mean,
you know what the problem is. I mean I do
like them. You sent me one the other day giving
me the finger. But you know, and it's fun and
it's funny, and what I liked about it was more
an adult humor thing, which is great, you know. And

(01:41:00):
now they're branching into moth Van. They're branching into Jersey
Devil and some other cryptis, which is is even better.
But it's like everything else, everybody is just overdoing it.
It's overdone. But as far as you know artificial intelligence,
look how good those things look. And that's the problem,

(01:41:23):
Like when you have evidence that comes out. I just
posted something about someone supposedly eighteen wheeler hitting a big foot,
and it's I'm looking for this the telltale signs of
artificial intelligence, you know, six fingers on the hand or
a couple of the missing or one you know, coming
out of the neck. But I mean, it looks interesting.
I want people's opinion. I'd like to see the body.

(01:41:47):
But it gets frustrating sometimes, like it's too much, like
move on. Jacqueline was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Though, all right, moving on to another question. Yeah, I
got to say before we even go there, I like
those videos, but you know what you could tell people
are starting to take them a little bit too far.
I don't want to be the you know, the the
bad person, you know, the Karen of the field that
says it's too far. But they seem to be getting

(01:42:18):
a little bit more racy and racial, and.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
Yeah, you know that's where the problem is coming.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
You know, like they're taking to a different level, and
it's someone Wroteman, Bear Pick, Yeah, south Park.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
Yeah, I know you're saying, that's another reason why I
don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
You know, let's go to Joseph's thoughts on reality and
it being classified in the nineteen nineties. I've never heard this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
I've never heard it being classified in the nineteen nineties
at all. The first time I kind of heard about
dog Man was definitely the two thousands, when the teens,
like maybe twenty twelve. I'll take that back. If you
look up Saint Christopher, Saint Christopher's depicted as a dog

(01:43:14):
headed individual, and there are individuals that have got the
name of the term, but they're hairy and they look like,
you know, hair all over their bodies, like were wolves.
So things have been there and there's a specific disease
for that. But as far as the dog Man itself,
the first time I heard about it was for my buddy,

(01:43:36):
and he said, go listen to Vic Kundiff. And I
listened to Vic Kundiff and I heard the stories and
I'm like, eh, we jumped the shark on this one.
And then you have encounters and then you hear from people.
It's it's real and it's really unnerving. It doesn't matter
unless he came up and said, oh, I'm really sorry,

(01:43:56):
you know, I'll put my teeth away, and had some
kind of interaction with it wasn't as imposing. That would
that would that's what I would need. There is a
story about a farmer that have he had prized cattle
on his farm and it was being cut up and
slaughtered and slashed. And the guy thought it's the dogmen,

(01:44:19):
because he knew he had dogmen at the end of
the property and some other animals and he was going
to take it out on them. But what what happened was,
and I've heard this one, they the dogmen actually took
a proactive stance and they went to the farm and
they said, it's not us. There's another being on this

(01:44:39):
property and it's cutting them up. You need to pay
attention at X y Z time or something like that,
and that's when they saw the rakes on the property,
you know, the long white things with the extended arms
and like almost like you know, shears at the end
of their fingers, and they were destroying the cattle. So

(01:44:59):
they didn't want to be shot at, like we didn't
do it, you know, because I'm sure those things may
not do a half the stuff they do, and they
may just be blamed for it because of the way
they appear, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Mm hmm. Let's go to another question. Let's go next
to let's see back to jose here. When somebody does
you are wrong and they think that it was that
or they're on and they're on top of the world,
will Karma visit them?

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
One hundred percent. I've seen it happen. You wrong, somebody
the universe will take you out. I've I've I see
it all the time, all the time I've gotten wrong
and they thought they were king whatever. It wasn't me,

(01:45:55):
but they got found out pretty quick. People make a
mistake when they get too cocky. And you know that's
why with these curses. If you're doing something, you know
you're trying to be boastful, and you get start getting cocky,
like oh, I'm untouchable. That's always when you get burnt.

(01:46:18):
But I've seen that. I've seen Karma take people out,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
And here I thought Karma was a guy on the chiefs.
But that's just me.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Yeah, okay, open sort.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Are dog men always black or I know we've we've
asked that when I apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Yeah, would it be safe.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
To say that the dog man may be much more
aggressive and hyperactive than Bigfoot?

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Yes, one hundred more aggressive. They're really intelligent. They know
what they're doing, and they they may feed a little
bit off of the fear component, like you know that
I thought about the hat man. They come in the
room and everybody's like they got fear. It's kind of
like monsters, inc. Some of the creatures they go interdimensionally.

(01:47:09):
They live off your fear. There isn't adrenaline thing that
they and they they eat that and it's like filling
their batteries. And I think the dog men are very
aggressive and hyperactive because they know what they can do.
It's unpredictable. They're ducking and weaving that, you know, trowling
at you, going right into your face and you you

(01:47:29):
just can't judge it. Where Bigfoot is like hiding behind
a tree. For the most part, they don't want to
be you know, encountered, leave us alone.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
Bigfoot will sometimes, I don't want to say, be aggressive,
but will let it's airyan known that it is around,
it is there, and you're not going to change its
mind to move. But do you think though that a
lot of Bigfoot's actions are taken as violent but really

(01:48:10):
aren't violent. They're actually just the way they do things
because they're so strong.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Yeah, I mean, like I think they you know, when
you see those trees being you know, going back and forth.
We've seen some videos like that, and that's like kids playing.
We used to we did that to the monkey bars
in the park across the street. We would get so
violent with them that it would really I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
We probably damage them.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
But they do that too, And and there's you know,
not everybody has a good day. So some of them
are going through a rut period. They're young, they don't
have a mate, and they want a mate, and they're like,
you know, get the heck away from me type of thing,
and they get aggressive. But Bigfoot likes human flesh too,

(01:48:59):
and and you know, it's it still does a lot
of really unnerving things as well. But I think it's
more palatable and I think there's a degree of I
don't want to say understanding, but they know who we
are and they know what the you know, they have

(01:49:23):
to be in a certain way with us because they
know what happens if they do something too aggressive. They're
going to send in other people, and people their bigfoot
are going to get killed and dogumen are gonna get killed.
That's why they're kind of like, stop, leave us alone,
let us do our thing, and they go their way.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
What is the first thing we do? We bring in
people with guns?

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
And you know, the guy calling me telling me he
works with the military and different branch and.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
But let's go to another question, Brian, have you ever
been up investigating the Brave Road area specifically, The retired
teacher says he has thousands of picks.

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
No, Marv, I have not been up to Bray Road.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
Actually, I may be able to get up there sometime
this year because there's supposed to be a conference near it,
and if I'm going to be near it, I'll drive
the three hours to it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
And there's a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
I'm telling you, I was even in Pennsylvania there is
a lot of local people that know these things are
in the woods and they have seen them like full
fledged boom there they are, and they just go about
their business because they know if they go about their business, listenings,
go away and do their thing. But a lot of
people don't want to talk about it, you know, like

(01:50:48):
you know when people talk about skin walkers and windogows,
the natives, you know, the indigenous don't do, not want
to talk. Don't mention that name, you know, he who
must not be named.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
You ever been around a skin walker or a wind
to Go.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
I haven't been around any one of them at all
at this point, but I was talking to somebody about
I'm trying to get onto the Navajo reservation and to
go with the novel law enforcement there, so that may
be that that's a little unnerving too. That's no joke.

(01:51:29):
You know. Skin Walker is a transformer. The wind to
Go is something different. It's that, you know, like that
skull horn of a deer with a it's evil. We
were talking, we were going on investigation of State New
York and one of the guys there goes you know,
they have under underground military base here that are abandoned
we can go in them. So we're like, oh, cool,

(01:51:51):
that'll be a great trip. And then our psychic called
us back the day later, where you're going, what are
you doing? Like, what are you talking about? Because you're
not going any place. Don't go in those those caves,
those those bases. And we're like, how the hell did
you know that? Well, in the middle of the night
in Arkansas, she got visited by a windigo and it

(01:52:13):
came and it told her don't that, don't let him
come here, and it was She was so unnerved she
didn't even know what the heck it was. He goes,
there's the most horrific things she's ever seen, and had
antlers and horns. And I said, you know, you did
the search. I sent it to her. I goes, this
is what you saw? Goes, yes, that's exactly what it is.
And I said, it's a wind togo And he smelt

(01:52:35):
like rotting flesh. She got up at three, you know,
and after that was over, got up, salted her property
and didn't go back to bed.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
But I'd love to go to Bray Road.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
We think we got time for one more, buddy, I
think we got time for one more. Sure, And it
was the comedy of Moody mongol. Here, how do we
test for a dog man in our midst Does waving
a stick around in front of them trigger them to
reveal themselves? Looks at Dave intensely.

Speaker 4 (01:53:09):
It's actually funny.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
I wrote a I I saw a show on TV
about these two guys surviving, you know, the two military
guys out surviving in the in the in the savannah.
It was like two hundreds degrees or whatever it was.
They ran out of water and one of these guys,
this is like three in the morning, when of these
guys went up and like fresh elephant dune, took it,

(01:53:32):
put it in his bandana and squeezed the juice of
the elephant dung into the mouth. That was Heartner, who
looked horrified. So I'm like, I'm writing these stories. So
I wrote the the The World the Time of Sir
Ryan Bowden, and I you know, I did a story
about a werewolf and in it, the guy gets the

(01:53:55):
werewolf's attention by using a femur as a stick and
he whistle and he throws it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:02):
I try to do it as an old radio show.
It was great, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
I got to cut you off right there because it's
time for us to say good night to you, but
thank you for coming on spaced Out Radio for our
cryptid world. Coming up next, Swamp Dweller, then Little Timmy
James with the UFO Report.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
We'll be right back.

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Everybody. You're listening, just spaced Out Radio with your host
Dave Scott. All right, buddy, thank you very much, Go

(01:54:43):
get some sleep, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
You got it, Marv, thanks for a post of those links.
I appreciate it. Tonight, let's say everybody and let me
know if you need me again.

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You have a good one, buddy, talk sooner, brother, you
got it later the Brian Bowden right there, I'll be
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Speaker 6 (02:02:15):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp. I'm swamp
dweller in tonight I'm going to take you on a
mystic journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends,
and nightmares. Welcome to the space Out Radio Swamp. Let
me start off by saying that Alabama is a weird

(02:02:36):
and wonderful place. Sure, we have a sort of redneck
vibe going on, but the state is actually a very
beautiful and nice place to live in.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
The state is no.

Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
Stranger to paranormal events, especially in the UFO and alien category.
An example of this is the Fulkville metal Man. Interesting
story there, anyways, This experience came from my sophomore year
of high school. At the time, movies like Guardians of
the Galaxy and Interstellars sort of put my interest into space.

(02:03:08):
I would periodically lay out in my backyard, listening to
music and gaze up at the stars, just sitting there,
imagining what goes on up there, just relaxing. Occasionally I
would see a moving star, but would always attribute those
to planes, except this one star was far off from
a plane, and I for some reason, just kept my

(02:03:30):
eyesight on it. It was going west when suddenly it
instantly changed directions at a ninety degree angle, then started
going south. I was confused, so I kept staring at it.
A few seconds later, it changed directions instantly again, and
this time it was going west. Only after it changed course,

(02:03:51):
it revealed itself to not be a star. Something appeared
behind the star. It was oval shaped, glowing orange, and
was massive. It made no noise and started glowing extremely bright.
I sat there in disbelief and kept my gaze on it.
It looked like, upon further examination, that the star was

(02:04:13):
in front of some sort of aircraft. It silently moved
across the sky over my house, and then suddenly just disappeared.
The star was still there and it was still moving.
I was sitting there intrigued, hoping the craft would glow again,
but the star soon faded into the night sky and
disappeared itself. I ran inside and asked my family if

(02:04:34):
they saw anything, assuming they would be considering the thing
in the sky was glowing extremely bright. However, none of
them saw anything. I wrote this down in my journal,
which I had used to recall all sorts of weird
paranormal events that I either research or experience. What makes
the story weirder is that an hour later, military aircraft

(02:04:55):
were out all over the sky. I don't know if
that's normal, and we do sometimes see airplanes fly over
our house, but never this many. There were dozens of airplanes,
all seemingly scanning the sky. I've never told anybody what happened.
My friends wouldn't believe me, considering I come from a
conservative environment where people would scoff at the idea of

(02:05:17):
anything outside of Earth. I still don't know what I
saw that night, but I'm pretty sure it.

Speaker 3 (02:05:22):
Was a UFO.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
Thank you swamp Dweller for another creepy story about UFOs tonight.
If you want more just like that, head on over
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to listen to these creepy stories all right, time for
the UFO Report.

Speaker 3 (02:05:41):
That is an into planets Harry flying Space Saucer.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
Hi, Little Timmy James in the hot seat right now
for the UFO Report. Tim Always good to have.

Speaker 5 (02:06:06):
You here, and always good to be here, my friend.

Speaker 2 (02:06:10):
What do you got for us?

Speaker 1 (02:06:11):
Tonite.

Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
Well, a little bit of this and a little bit
of that. Nothing to mind blowing or earth shattering, but
started off tonight with the Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer
proposes UAP Disclosure Act as the NDAA amendment. So on
July twenty ninth of twenty twenty five, Senate Minority Leader

(02:06:33):
Chuck Schumer introduced the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon Disclosure Act the UAPDA,
as a proposed amendment to the Fiscal Year twenty twenty
six National Defense Authorization Act. The legislation, co sponsored by
Senator Mike Rounds, aims to mandate the declassification and public
release of government records related to unidentified anomalous phenomenon, commonly

(02:06:58):
known as UAP or UFOs. The amendment seeks to establish
a UAP records collection at the National Archives and create
an independent review board to oversee disclosure decisions. So this
is about transparency for the American people. Transparency, there's that word,
Schumer said in a statement. The public has a right

(02:07:18):
to know about the phenomena that defy explanation, and this
amendment ensures records are preserved and reviewed for release unless
national security demands.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
Otherwise.

Speaker 5 (02:07:30):
The UAPDA includes provisions for the federal government to exercise
eminent domain over any recover technologies of unknown origin or
biological evidence of non human intelligence held by private entities.
We're not just talking about sightings. Round emphasized. This is
about ensuring any materials or evidence, wherever they are, come

(02:07:52):
under government oversight for the public, for the public good.
The amendment faces an uncertain path, as I think we
most all of us know. While it builds on the
twenty twenty three version that passed the Senate but significantly
weakened in conference with the House, opposition from Pentagon officials
and some House members persists We've got a shot at this,

(02:08:15):
but it depends on finding common ground within the House.
Browns noted, referencing ongoing discussions with key House figures to
address concerns. The legislation has garnered support from Senator Kristen
Jillibrand and Martin Heinrich, who joined as co sponsors. This
is a critical step towards reducing stigma and advancing scientific inquiries,

(02:08:37):
jill Brand said. However, the absence of uap provisions in
the House's NDAA version suggests challenges ahead in negotiations, advocates
for disclosure at rally behind the effort. The right to
know is why we are here to thank Senator Schumer
for his advocacy and demand continued progress. Excuse me, said

(02:09:00):
Osvaldo Franco, lead organizer of the Citizens for Disclosure Now
at a recent rally outside Schumer's New York office. Critics,
including some defense officials, argue that the amendment duplicates existing
efforts by arrow the amendment's fate, hinges on Senate negotiations,

(02:09:21):
and potential inclusion into a broader NDAA package with no
guarantee of a standalone vote. Schumer remains resolute, we will
keep pushing to change the status quo and bring clarity
to this issue. First thing I thought about when I
read this, Sorry, first thing I thought about was and
as long as we get support, isn't that What happened

(02:09:43):
last time was they said, you know, they got a
lot of people that were going, yeah, we're with you,
We're with you, and then it kind of fell flat.

Speaker 2 (02:09:49):
So well, the.

Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
Reason why it fell flat the last time was because
you and I being Canadian, we don't really understand very
well American policy takes how it kind of works. But
they have what they call this a gang of eight,
and it's usually a lot of the heavyweights in the
Senate who are in Congress. Who are are you know,

(02:10:14):
the ones who really lead the charge to start pushing
forward bills and motions and debate and discussions on things.
And you've heard me talk about Mike Turner a number
of times. Well, the biggest critic towards the Schumer Rounds
bills the last couple of years as they've been brought
up was Mike Turner. And who does Mike Turner represent

(02:10:36):
well in his constituency. Happens to be right Patterson Air
Force Base, which employs over fifty thousand people and is
considered a top secret base kind of like the Area
fifty one of the East. The other interesting part about
Wright Patterson is if you go back to nineteen forty

(02:10:58):
seven with the Roswell crash, it is believed that the
information that was gained there, along with the craft and
alien bodies, were originally taken to Write Patterson before making
their way to Area fifty one. Turner, pardon me, has
been adamant about keeping the UFO stuff out of budget.

Speaker 2 (02:11:21):
Does like it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
Why we don't know okay, but he was part of
the Intelligence Committee, and he was very much adamant about
whitewashing the previous bills, so it would be brought up,
but really you wouldn't get anything out of it. But
now that he is gone and out of that position,

(02:11:45):
Aska Polls Matt Laslow asked Chuck Schumer today, do you
think there's a better chance of it getting through? And
Schumer now says there's a good chance that we can
find out what is going on by getting this passed.
So it is now I'm paraphrasing, but it is very

(02:12:08):
important that there were old school people who'd been elected
for years, if not a decade or two, who are
holding this back, probably at the behest of the American public.
But now that especially Turner is out of the way,
there is a greater chance that the UAPDA will not

(02:12:30):
get whitewashed this year. That's exciting for us, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (02:12:35):
And you and I talked about this last year when
they were going through the same thing on the build up,
and I think that that's what you had brought up
to begin with, was that we've got where they have
so many old school people in there right now that
they need to go so that we can get the
new blood and the younger people that are actually interested
in it and or you know, believe in it or

(02:12:56):
however you want to put it up in the forefront.
And I think that those people last year, those young
people that were getting involved, I think possibly, and this
is just my assuming, is that they were probably felt
a little intimidated by you know, some of the older, older, uh,
the senior people, and they're looking at them like they

(02:13:18):
were you know, you guys are crazy. But yeah, let's hope.
So that's a good point. Like, you know, we get
some of these older people out of here, which is happening,
and these young and enthusiastic people and people with a
little bit more open mind, I think is going to
be a good thing. And I think you've hit that
bang on.

Speaker 1 (02:13:36):
What else you got for as chief?

Speaker 2 (02:13:38):
Well.

Speaker 5 (02:13:39):
Ex NASA engineer claims trillions, not billions or millions, trillions
of shape shifting, cloaked devices are hidden across Earth. So
a former NASA engineer has made sensational claims that humans
are not only reverse engineering alien technology, but the trillions
of invisible extraterrestrial devices may already be hidden across the planet.

(02:14:04):
Richard Banderic, CEO of Field Propulsion Technology and a former
propulsion engineer for NASA and Lockheed Martin, shared the shocking
allegations during a December twenty twenty four episode of Ecosystem
Futures podcast, which is recently resurfaced on social media. In
the interview, Vanderic described a covert effort by the US

(02:14:28):
government and private research groups to study advanced materials allegedly
recovered from unidentified flying objects. He claimed that many of
these mysterious objects were not simply crashed or breed, but
part of what he suspects is a vast, invisible sensor
network scattered around the world. The engineer admitted he didn't

(02:14:50):
know who had placed the devices, but said they were
unlike anything ever seen, not just decades ahead of current technology,
but hundreds of years beyond it. He described one such
device as a silver as a sliver of metal that
could recon figure and camouflage itself depending on its surroundings.

(02:15:10):
It would cloak itself and try to blend into the environment.
He said, that's how we could tell it was extraterrestrial. Well,
I'm sure so. Despite the bold claims, Banderic offers no
physical evidence to support them. His comments have ignited online
speculation about UFO disclosure, and some users calling twenty twenty

(02:15:30):
four the year disclosure really happened. The Pentagon, however, continues
to deny the existence of any alien retrieval programs in
confirmed contacts with extraterrestrial life. As for why some advanced
groups would be scattering tiny objects as part of a
global monitoring system, the engineer claimed that extraterrestrials could try

(02:15:53):
could be trying to influence human society. They have all
sorts of functions. This really implies that maybe this group
is actually manipulating our species, he warned. In his first
public comments since the twenty twenty four podcast, he had
other guests, including UFO researcher how put Off and form

(02:16:13):
NASA advisor doctor Anna Brainy estebez have It continued to
share detail of humanity's attempt to reverse engineer and alien technology.
He added that it was still possible to acquire these
cloak devices scattered around the world, but his access has
been cut off by the groups he was working with
after he chose to go public with what he knew.

(02:16:36):
He also had originally been recruited by the US Department
of Defense in the Air Force to work on classified
projects aimed at analyzing systems from crash UFOs. However, he
noted that these technologies weren't being used by US government. Instead,
it was no gone governmental non governmental organizations and goos

(02:16:59):
that were studying of the recovered alien tech. Some of
that work I was doing with NGOs was really exciting.
But one of the things that comes out of this
is that these individuals or whoever this group is that
is this advanced technology probably does not want us to

(02:17:19):
reverse engineer what they're working on, he explained, to stop
other groups or governments from utilizing these materials. Scientists discovered
that the unknown metals could break apart into tiny particles
and then could could not be reactivated. They were smart.
They were smart materials. In quotes. You'd be looking at

(02:17:39):
them and trying to reverse engineer them, they would turn
to dust. The engineer revealed they would do it within
a minute or two. Then you could take the dust,
send it off, get isotopic and analysis done on it,
and it turned out they were extraterrestrial. It's like, okay,
so leave us hanging. What do they look like? Do

(02:18:02):
we have any pictures? Can we find them anywhere? Can
you show us anything? Because let's I'd like to see
this stuff, right, well.

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
I think we'd all like to see it.

Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
You know, those are wild and bold claims for people
who are not educated on this subject, right, you know.
And they're even wild and bold claims from many of
us who do study this subject.

Speaker 2 (02:18:25):
Right. I want to.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
Literally literally believe this guy.

Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
I do.

Speaker 1 (02:18:32):
I get, you know, and let me tell you why.
Because when you hear people like Jim Goodall, aviation historian,
Aviation Hall of Famer in the United States, I mean
you you hear what he was said and the people
that he talks to. You and I have been seeing.
We can't say who he was talking to, but you

(02:18:52):
and I have been seeing who who is literally in
contact with Jim. Look at my phone, Look who I'm
talking to? Look at my phone. Don't tell anybody, no, okay,
but you know he was good friends with former Lockheed Skunkquirks,
had been rich, that's right, you know. And you talk

(02:19:16):
to people who are in the system, they believe we're
one hundred hundred and fifty years potentially ahead of where
we are what we see in the sky today. The
question is is it ours or is it theirs? When
I say theirs, I'm not talking any humans on this
planet or any country on this planet, you know. And

(02:19:36):
that's the difficulty. We don't know, And like you said,
there is no proof, there is no evidence. It is
a trust me bro situation. But god do I want
to believe this one man?

Speaker 5 (02:19:48):
Well for sure. And the thing is, it's like, you know,
trillions of these things all over the world. So that's
where I have Well, I guess my skepticism jumps up.
It's because, Okay, if there's trillions, has nobody stumbled on
one and went, hey, check this stuff out right?

Speaker 2 (02:20:09):
Like?

Speaker 5 (02:20:10):
That's what gets me is you're right. They make these
grandiose claims, and I'm not here to say that they're
true or they're not true. But where my skepticism jumps
up is in that case, if there's trillions of them,
you should be tripping over these things. They shape shift,
they you know, they look like little pieces of slivers
of metal. Okay, so nobody's ever found those anywhere? Nobody has.

Speaker 2 (02:20:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:20:36):
It's it's perplexing. I like using that. We're perplexing.

Speaker 1 (02:20:41):
We still have to figure out who it is we
got three minutes before we have to go.

Speaker 5 (02:20:45):
I have got really a bunch of stuff here. I
got Ross cole Heart. There was a bit of a
kerfuffle about him and you and I talked about it earlier.
Ross colehart, skate of journalists with a storied career at
outlets like four Corners Sixty Minutes, has emerged as a

(02:21:05):
prominent figure and discourse surrounding UFOs. His work, particularly with
News Nation and his book In Plain Sight and Investigation
into UFOs and Impossible Sciences has positioned him as a
leading voice in the UAP community. However, recent claims and
the polarized reception of his reporting raised provocative questions as Colhart,

(02:21:26):
in his pursuit of truth, become an unwilling agent of disinformation.
Colheart supporters praised his dog and pursued a transparency, particularly
around UFOs and alleged government cover ups. His interviews with
whistleblowers such as US Air Force veteran Jake Barber, who
claimed involvement in recovering non human technology, and his discussion

(02:21:47):
with figures like Senator Mike Browns on the UAP disclosure
legislation suggest a journalist committed to uncovering hidden truth. Colehart
has also been vocal about what he perceives as failures
by mainstream media and government institutions to engage seriously with
the UAP issue, framing himself as a skeptic challenging the establishment.

(02:22:09):
Yet skepticism about Colhart's claims is growing, particularly after bold
assertions like in July or this month statement that the
two thousand and four tic tac UAP incident involved lockeed
Martin technology, not extraterrestrial craft. The claim made without public evidence,
has drawn criticism from some quarters as speculative and at

(02:22:30):
best misleading. At worst, Critics argue that cole Heart's were
reliance on unnamed sources within defense circles risks amplifying unverified narratives,
potentially muddying the waters of credible UAP research. Is Detractor's
point to is Australian skeptics bent Spoon Award for promoting
pseudoscience pifful as evidence of a pattern of sensationalism. Seems

(02:22:56):
to be a lot of rumblings and grumblings about raw
So you and I were talking about that a couple.

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
Of weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (02:23:02):
Is he an unwitting disinformation agent?

Speaker 2 (02:23:06):
Or no, is it legit?

Speaker 6 (02:23:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:23:08):
Exactly right?

Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
Right, So yeah, this is coming out.

Speaker 1 (02:23:12):
I think people in this field just always need somebody
to blame, right, and Ross is an easy target right now, Okay,
His job as a journalist is to run with the
stories that are presented to him with evidence and not
just taking a person's word verbatim, but literally having to

(02:23:36):
back it up, back up their credentials. That never makes
it into the story. But you have to be able
to do that. And you know, I know where people
are questioning Ross and whether or not he's a disinfo
agent or not. I don't think so. I think he
is just running with what he's told, trying to confirm
it the best that he can, and then putting it
out there for the world to see. Remember, a journalist's

(02:23:58):
job is just to throw a story out there. It's
not to tell you whether you're right or wrong. That's
your choice as a person to actually make that decision.
Tim James, thank you for the shortened and abbreviated UFO report.
Coming up next is a day of one on one
and then the weird News of the week.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
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Speaker 5 (02:24:20):
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Yeah, oh yeah, we understand that it's just the bosses
that don't seem to get it.

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Already. I will let you get.

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Yep, and we'll see the rest of you tomorrow night,
eight o'clock. Sharp rail, all right, man, take care of
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time of the day, that time of the night, that
time of the week where I yell at each and
every one of you to get off my lawn. It's
a day one on one.

Speaker 6 (02:31:25):
Here. I can see you a real ups about this.
I always get me if you want to sit down,
come take.

Speaker 2 (02:31:38):
The stress of things.

Speaker 1 (02:31:58):
Well, considering this is my ra to the week, I'm
gonna make it about me because I want to talk
to you guys about something and I still haven't been
able to wrap my fingers around it. But it is
something that I think is important to discuss. How I'm
gonna discuss it, I really don't know. I really don't,

(02:32:20):
and let me tell you why, because it involves how
I feel. Yes, and it does involve one of my
favorite topics of light, the Flight twenty one crash site
you see. In the last couple of weeks, we have
had a couple of instances out at our investigation area

(02:32:42):
that have literally scared the daylights out of me. And
often I have been finding myself wondering whether or not
this is actually worth it. Yeah, it is, absolutely and
I'm gonna keep doing it. But these scary encounters to

(02:33:03):
me have really shown what this is really about. It's
about testing your knowledge, it's about testing your stamina, It's
about testing your will and whether or not you can
be scared off. I don't like being scared. I really

(02:33:26):
don't like being scared, you know, Like I'm one of
these guys where if you jump out from around a
corner and go boo or something like that, I'm literally
going to start swinging. I really am. I hate being
surprised or scared. But you know what I've learned about
the phenomena. It doesn't care. No, it doesn't care at all.

(02:33:47):
And why doesn't it care, Because in my theory, the
phenomena only gives you as much as it thinks you
can handle. Now, if we go back few weeks where
we had those voices in the forest trying to lure
Tim and I into the trees, saying help me, I'm

(02:34:09):
over here, help me, and then this past weekend where
literally after listening to our native friend Lali drum and
sing a welcoming song to the spirits of the cryptids
that were around literally ten to fifteen minutes later not

(02:34:30):
that far away, hearing the most violent tree knocks I
have ever heard, bang bang, I literally since then have
heard that bang bang in my head multiple times a day,
and then a couple minutes later, hearing the rustling through

(02:34:51):
the trees as whatever it was seems to be running away. Well,
you know what, this is what I do know. I
do know that there wasn't a ba with karate nunchucks
dancing away, practicing and then decided to smack the tree twice.
I know it wasn't a moose, because well, moose don't

(02:35:11):
really grip very well with their feet going through the rolodex.
Could it have been a human, No, not that violent,
unless they were carrying around a Louisville slugger with them
while they were trouncing through the absolute thickness of the forest.

(02:35:31):
But there were no other people around. Could it have
been a mountain lion. No, they don't like to make
sound grizzly bear.

Speaker 2 (02:35:41):
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:35:42):
However, I don't see them doing a double bang on
a tree with a stick either, So my lead conclusion
is it was sasquatch. But the violence and the veracity
of the hitting of that tree and double tapping it,

(02:36:04):
it made me feel very small. It made me feel
like I was extremely meek in a very dangerous place
that all of a sudden I was unsure whether or
not I should have been there, especially with so few people,
with just Lolly and I there Tim away, But yes,

(02:36:25):
I had to be there. I had to be there
because that's what I want to do. I am loving
this adventure. I'm loving the response we're getting on our
YouTube channel. I'm loving how each and every time Tim
and I go out there, there is something new that

(02:36:46):
happens even if we don't expect it. The blood rush
that goes through your system when you were startled the
way we were with those tree knocks or with those voices,
it makes you feel alive. It makes you feel like
you have something going on, and you wish the world
could experience this moment as we speak, especially all the

(02:37:10):
deniers and skeptics and non believers who say none of
this truly happens. Those people barely get off their lazy
boy let alone trying to survive in a forest. It
was scary. It was scary, indeed, and you'll hear me

(02:37:32):
repeat that a number of times during this day of
one oh one. The rush of it all is worth it. Now,
I know that I'm not trying to be a hero,
and neither is Tim. We're doing this out of our
own curiosity, and we are bringing this story to each
and every one of you, whether you're listening on the radio,
or you're watching on YouTube, or you're listening to this

(02:37:55):
on our podcast network. Being there in your shoe own
shoes and having this happen is surreal. Now, I'm very
fortunate in a way where I'm I'm not saying none
of you have ever faced fear like that before. I know,

(02:38:16):
we have a lot of veterans on this show who
have seen way worse than I ever have. I know,
we've had a lot of people who've maybe been robbed
at pointy sticks or by pointy sticks, or had bad
situations happening. The big difference between those and what we're

(02:38:37):
experiencing out the forest and the scariness and the anxiety
and the fear we're experiencing out there is the fact
that we are in an extremely unpredictable area, probably safer
than most of the situations you may have encountered, but

(02:38:58):
still scary none the less because you're always on guard.
You're on guard for bears running through, cougar's running around,
moose coming around, and yes, moose actually killed more people
in Canada and in the world than bears do on
an annual basis, believe it or not. And then there's

(02:39:22):
the other stuff that we are trying to conjure up
in that area. And with that conjuring of this and
trying to build that communication, we really are entering virgin territory.
We don't know what's going to happen, we don't know
where it's going to go. We don't know if we'll

(02:39:44):
come back literally, never mind. All the experiences of the
sightings of the Bigfoot photo in the tree that we've had,
you can find that on our social media. Whether it's
the tree knocking, the voice is trying to lure us
into the forest, which I still think to this day
was a skin walker or a wind togo. All of

(02:40:06):
the disembodied voices that we are capturing on tape, were
they from the plane crash or were they from somewhere
else that just caught our frequency. We don't know the UFOs,
the aliens. When you're hearing this humming sound all around
you but you can't see anything, These are all things

(02:40:28):
that have happened. It is like a paranormal paradise. It
is a carnival of events that you'd never know what
your entry ticket is going to actually bring you that night.
I just hope it still remains safe, because I actually
do like coming home, and I never ever want to

(02:40:50):
have to use my own pointy stick for the sake
of safety. Chasing this dream of paranormal supernatural activity. I'm
not growing weary of going, but I am thinking that
this is something that is way over my head, and

(02:41:14):
that I need to be more careful. I really do
need to be able to control my emotions a little
bit more, not get as scared stiff as I do
at times when I'm out there when something weird happens.
It's not about bravery. It's not about trying to say
I'm better than you, or Tim is better than you,

(02:41:36):
or you know that we're going off on this silly adventure.
We don't know what we're doing out there until we
get out there and have a conversation on the drive
in which takes about an hour to get out there
and set up, And then we want to make sure
that what we are doing, number one is safe, and

(02:41:56):
number two we want to make sure that we're going
to come home again. But number three, we also want
to make sure that we aren't upsetting anything and pissing
off the wrong creature that's going to all of a
sudden lead us to some sort of dangerous event. The
weird feeling about it, though, is I do get the feeling,
in so does Tim, that we are on the precipice

(02:42:18):
of something happening. It's going to be a close encounter.
It's going to be very very altruistic. It's going to
be life changing, and I just hope that we're able
to get it on film or as the kids say
these days, camera. I want to so bad and I

(02:42:43):
think it's coming. I don't know what it's going to be.
I don't know if it's going to be a Sasquatch,
a dog man, a UFO encounter, ghostly activity on the cameras,
the skin walkers, the wendigoes, the little people, the gnomes,
whatever is in that area. I don't know what it's
going to do. I don't know where it's going to go.

(02:43:06):
And to be frank that's part of the excitement. But
you want to be prepared and you want to make
sure that all of a sudden, on all that excitement,
you're not dropping dead of a jammer right there because
fear got to your heart. It's happened before, could happen again.

(02:43:26):
Not to me, but it's happened to other people. We
are staying safe, we are staying very true to what
we do. It's good to have somebody like Tim there
who has the experience and the knowledge of the wilderness
to know where you can push things and where you can't.

(02:43:47):
When I'm not feeling brave, Tim is when he's not
feeling brave. I am, and that's how we really coexist
with doing this project. Hopefully, over the next little bit,
we will be adding one or two more people to
our team in order to allow us to have a
little bit more feeling of relaxation. It's hard to relax

(02:44:11):
out there because you're always on alert, You're always looking
for something. It doesn't stop, and I guess that's the
thrill ride we're on. I believe that is what we
are trying to do. What I can't figure out just
yet is the story that the Phenomena is trying to
tell us. Maybe it'll come. Maybe they just lured us

(02:44:35):
into that area to experience everything that we've wanted on
a paranormal supernatural realm. I don't know the answer to
that yet. The Phenomena hasn't answered that question, but it
is getting closer, and I think week after week as
we continue to go out there, we do have to

(02:44:56):
keep our eyes open for the ultimate encounter. I fear
being out there. I am aware. You have to have
a healthy respect for the fear that goes along with
that place, and not just because Bigfoot bangs on a tree. No,
you have to respect the nature that Mother Nature has

(02:45:17):
provided us and the gifts that she has brought forward
with all of these beautiful animals that may just not
be friends with humans, but we're going to continue. The
adrenaline rush keeps going. I cannot wait for the weekend
to get out there. And maybe I'm silly, maybe I'm stupid,
maybe I'm nuts, but I can tell you this next week,

(02:45:39):
when we're back, we're going to have more great stories
to share with each and every one of you. That's
your Dave of one O one, As God is my witness.

Speaker 6 (02:45:52):
I thought turkeys can fly bigger than in Here is
the latest bulletin from the under continent. Already on you.

Speaker 2 (02:46:00):
I am good at things, fighting and reading the news.

Speaker 1 (02:46:03):
It's time once again for spaced out radios weird news
of the week. All right, we're gonna start off somewhere
in Oklahoma here where it's been a week since two
Oklahoma Board of Education members complained about seeing nude women
appear on a TV set during an official board meeting,

(02:46:27):
And yet we've already reached the just asking questions stage
of this scandal. What's going on here? Well, let's find
out one might have expected superintended a public instruction Ryan
Walters to agree with his outrage board members, you know
a sort of together, we will unmask the degenerates who
are making a mockery of our meetings with their streaming

(02:46:48):
retro pornography.

Speaker 2 (02:46:50):
But no.

Speaker 1 (02:46:50):
Walters first put out a press release titled response to
the most absurd, false and guttural political attack from a desperate,
failing establishment, in which he said that any suggestion that
a device of mine was used to stream inappropriate content
on the television set is categorically false. Well little defensive,

(02:47:12):
isn't he? Since then, Walters has just kept throwing metaphorical
tanks of gas into this dumpster fire of a situation.

Speaker 2 (02:47:19):
See.

Speaker 1 (02:47:20):
On July twenty ninth, he recorded a video statement to
x in which he called the scandal the nastiest political
attack and said it was based on lies by board members.
He then said that the board members in question should
resign immediately in disgrace over the lies they have pushed
about me. He also held a more traditional press conference,
standing at a podium filled with media company microphones, where

(02:47:43):
he repeatedly said that the media are liars and that
no one trusts them because that's a defense mechanism usually
when you're guilty. He also asked whether Oklahoma's governor had
perhaps prompted the board members whom the governor appointed to
make up the accusation as part of a coordinated smear
campaign against him. Did he really direct those board members

(02:48:05):
to lie about me? Walters ass Next up, we're promises
of retribution. The gates goes on and on with this guy. Well,
the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office, which has been handling the
law enforcement side of this investigation, has not backed this narrative.
Instead issued their own Facebook statement because that's what they
do these days, has said to clear up any confusion.

(02:48:26):
The statement noted that this investigation is still in its infancy,
so it would be inappropriate to discuss who we plan
to speak with or any evidence. So basically, what the
story is, We got a guy who might be a
pervert taking in a school board meeting watching old school porn,
probably on porn Hub or something along those lines. Because

(02:48:47):
he's boarded one of these meetings and people got offended,
and now it's a big ruckus. How do you feel
about that?

Speaker 2 (02:48:54):
All?

Speaker 1 (02:48:55):
Right, here's a cool one. A South African university launched
an anti poaching campaign to inject the horns of rhinos
with radioactive isotopes that say it's harmless for the animals
but can be detected by customs agents. Under the collaborative

(02:49:16):
project involving the University of winter Watersrand, nuclear energy officials
and conservationists, five rhinos were injected in what the university
hopes will be the start of a mass injection of
the declining rhino population. They call it the Rhizotope Project.
Last year, about twenty rhinos at a sanctuary were injected

(02:49:37):
with isotopes and trials that paved the way for Thursday's launch.
The radioactive isotopes, even at low levels, can be recognized
by radiation detectors at airports and borders, leading to the
arrest of poachers and traffickers. Researchers at the university say
the test conducted in the pilot's study confirmed that the
radioactive material was not harmful to the rhinos. We have

(02:50:00):
demonstrated beyond scientific doubt that the process is completely safe
for the animal and effective at making the horn detectable
through international custom nuclear security systems, said James Larkin, chief
scientific officer at the Riisotope Project. Even a single horn
with significantly lower levels of radioactivity that what will be

(02:50:21):
used in practice successfully triggered alarms in radiation detectors. The
tests also found out that horns could be detected in
full forty foot shipping containers. This is awesome. This is
so awesome. I've never understood the reasoning for the rhino
killing spree. I realize that it has something to do

(02:50:43):
with some ancient medicine or some garbage like that, you know,
But man, I wish people could just lay off that.
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:50:55):
I do.

Speaker 1 (02:50:56):
I love rhinos. They're weird looking but awesome. Well, if
you were in twenty twenty four at this close pizza
parlor in Wisconsin, you may have had a little bit
more than what it was expected because eighty people at
the pizzeria apparently used oil infused and a psychoactive ingredient

(02:51:19):
to make the pizzas. Eighty five people became really high
with THHC after eating the pizza, garlic, bread, and sandwiches
from a Wisconsin restaurant. The unusual incident took place in
October twenty twenty four, was described in a new report
published just this past week in Morbidity and Morality Weekly Report,

(02:51:40):
a regular publication that's put out by the Center for
Disease and Control and Prevention. Apparently these people had no
idea that they were going to get high off their
pizza pie, but they had a good time pig it out. Nonetheless,
as we say hello to mister Ron Bubblefoot, Thal Rocket
in the background with little brother is watching. Bumblefoot is

(02:52:01):
the official music of spaced Out Radio. Rocket us in
and out of every single show. Get your horns up
for the guitar God himself. Special thanks to everybody listening
in at work, at home, in your cars, wherever you
may be. Thank you to everyone in our chat rooms tonight, YouTube, Twitch, elgam, Facebook, spreaker,

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Out Radio. Remember this show is copyright by spaced Out
Radio and Bigfoot Broadcasting Limited. Thank you so much for
choosing to share your evening with us, because together, my friends,

(02:52:44):
what we own the nights. Mister Bumblefoot. We need a favor,
We need you to take us home. Yes, the WU
train has docked for the night, but soon, my friends,

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