Nov. 18/25 - Paranormal Technology with Matt Lay

Matt Lay is a paranormal researcher and engineer, who spends his off time trying to prove what the paranormal actually is!? Based out of the province of Saskatchewan, this U.S. Air Force veteran spends his time trying to create technology that can detect paranormal events and conversations. His website is mudutu.ca

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We have an amazing show for you tonight. As we're
gonna get into the paranormal, Will technology solve the mystery?
Matt Lay will be here momentarily then in our number
three swamp dweller. We'll kick things off. Then Robin Haynes

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will be here for the Q and A, which we
always have a lot of fun each and every week.
Matt Lay is an American and American veteran of the
United States Air Force as well. I'm not sure if
he's got his Canadian citizenship yet, but we'll ask him
here momentarily. God help him for being a Rough Riders
fan after they won the Great Cup on the weekend.

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But nonetheless, he is a paranormal researcher and investigator from
the beautiful province of Saskatchewan, best known for his deep
dives into the supernatural mysteries and unexplained phenomena across North America.
As the creator of the Medutu Effect, Matt brings a
uniquely analytical yet intuitive approach to the paranormal, blending indigenous wisdom,

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environmental consciousness, and hands on field investigation. Through his work,
he aims to connect the dots between natural forces, human intuition,
and the spirit world, challenging both skeptics and believers alike.
With years of experience exploring haunted locations, cryptid citing, and
of course, spiritual anomalies, Matt's research has gained a wide

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following across social media and the world. His insightful commentary,
boots on the ground investigations, and thought provoking theories have
positioned him as one of the emerging voices of paranormal phenomena.
Visit his website Meduoto dot Ca, subscribe to his YouTube
and TikTok to experience the Medoto effect for yourself. And

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with that, he's also, in my opinion, has the best
beard going in the paranormal Matt Lay, Welcome back to
spaced Out Radio. My friend, how are you?

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Oh doing just fun? Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's always good to share the airwaves with you, my friend.
And you know, I think about you and your beautiful
wife Alison a lot, you know. And you know what
a lot of our American listeners don't understand is even
though you're only two provinces away, you're like a thousand miles.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
You know. It's it's not like going from oh, you know,
we're in Massachusetts and I feel like visiting friends in
Philadelphia this weekend. Let's go for a five hour drive.
It's not like that.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
No, No, it doesn't. Uh.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
And also, I mean just even here in Saskatchewan. You know,
I'm used to going on as drives and every few
minutes you're crossing, you know, through another town. Here it's
you got a couple hours before you do that, but
you can see them.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh yeah, you can see forever there. Your dog never
gets lost in Saskatchewan. Never. You will never lose your
dog in Saskatchewan. And if you lose your dog, somebody
kidnapped it or dog napped it, I guess would be saying,
have you got your Canadian citizenship yet? Or are you
still holding on to the beautiful us.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Of A I'm a permanent resident, beautiful beautiful Yeah, so
I'm a pr but uh and it's just out of laziness.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I haven't gone to get my citizenship yet.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So well, we still love having you here, we do.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I love being here. This is great.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Now, you have a very unique paranormal story because you're
and I mean this would all due compliment, you're a
technology geek and you're trying to be able to blend
the paranormal with the technology to see what truly is
going on. Before we get deep into that conversation, how

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did the paranormal life begin for you?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, It's funny because I just did this lecture a
couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
And I held up a book from nineteen to eighty.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Six that I first read, and it got me hooked
and I went on my first investigation. It's so funny
because I read this book in nineteen eighty seven. I
went on my first investigation, and I knew it all
because I read this book. Ah h yeah, it's a

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constant learning process. I didn't know it all. But uh
and this was immobile Alabama. Get wrap that in your head.
But at the time, of course, you know, as you
well know that the UAP sightings were off the hook.

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There were so many different of course, there's a lot
of folklore down there, so everywhere you turned there was
something you know, between cryptis to UAPs two uh, haunted locations.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
You know, so that was never a dull moment.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Did the dose just come to you or what really
dragged you into this phenomena? What what caught your attention?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Apparently?

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Well, okay, so a lot of people stayed away from
the paranormal because of the whole Satanic panic that was
going on in the eighties. You know, it had this taboo,
you know, everybody wanted to stay away from it, which
you know I didn't do that, but that drove me

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more to investigate more to find out answers. But because
of that, there were not that many people around that
people could go to and ask questions. And the more
questions that are asked, that the more you learned. And
I also want to apologize to the listeners the throat.

(08:42):
I don't always sound like this. I have a great
radio voice right now, but it's because of a cold.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You're sounding stunning right now.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Stunning, but yes, it's so opportunities kept coming up NonStop,
and because of that I was able to I won't
say advance quickly, but it's more I had more opportunities
to ask questions because the more questions you asked, the

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more you're going to learn.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
So were you always just wanting to learn about the
paranormal or were you wanting to experience the paranormal? Because
there is a big difference between the two.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
There is a huge difference the way the problem. A
lot of people don't realize there's enthusiasts and there's researchers.
And I've always been a researcher and I'm not wanting
to go out for the scare, you know type thing.
I want to not only experience it, but I want

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to learn what's happening. And you know, not just okay,
I got a voice, but now I want to understand
more in depth of why I got this voice, and
understand the frequency it came through, what were the conditions,
you know, everything? You know, I when I look at uh,

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here's an analogy I give everybody, and it's called a
dot theory. We look at a dot, you know, around circle,
and we just see a dot, but nothing to you
willing or you're willing to rotate that you realize it's
a rod. So you have to adjust your perception and

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you have to look at all angles, uh, in order
to see the full picture. But all too often people
just focus on that dot and say that's it, you know,
and I won't look beyond that spectrum.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Why blend you know, your your love of technology for
the paranormal. What's what's the fascination in that?

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Well, I'm a communications engineer. I have degrees and elet
trys and so you know, frequencies. I speak that language,
you know, I guess you would say.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
But.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
My love for that comes from actually reading old manuscripts.
When you read through old manuscripts, these from the sixteenth
and seventeenth centuries, you start to see correlations between them
and modern physics. And as an example, I'll just give

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you a prime example. Giorgiano Bruno was burn at the
stake for being a heretic, but his ideas and his
theories are still being used in physics today. But you
look at all these old manuscripts and then you started
adapting and realize that through electronics, through modern technology, you

(11:53):
can recreate a lot of this and no different from
writing Python or we were chatting before the show, I've
developed my own AI analytics platforms just for this.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
So it's I.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Love the fact that we went from carrying those big,
giant VCR recorders on our shoulders throwing out our backs
to now, you know, small devices and be able to
use so much technology that is available for us.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
So and it's all in one hand.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Now, yeah, exactly. But the problem is is we went
away from and we can get into this later, but
we went away from data.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
And we went to blinky lights.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
You know, when we're all were first starting, we were
looking for data. But as time evolved, we went from
oh is it yellow? Is it green?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Is it yellow?

Speaker 7 (12:57):
You know?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Did it turn red? You know?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
And we weren't looking for data where we were looking
for indicators. So that's why I like the technology, because
I want the data.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Your love of this subject has taken you to places
and realms you would never expect as you grew as
a paranormal researcher investigator. What was your goal or what
is your goal?

Speaker 5 (13:26):
The next best question, I guess you would say, so
every time you open up a door, you're just exposing
more doors to open. I love going down rabbit holes
and finding that information, but my endgame goal is to
understand because I don't believe the concept of supernatural or

(13:51):
paranormal is that. I think it's something normal that goes
on around as all the time. It's just our perceptions
and understanding what's actually happening. I mean, by definition, okay,
by definition, paranormal is anything that cannot be explained by science. Well,

(14:14):
me losing my keys every morning before I go to work,
that's pretty paranormal. But you know it's not the case
of but pretty much so anything paranormal or supernatural in
my eyes and through the different researches.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
It's been finding out that it's normal.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
It's these are things that are normally happening around us
all the time. How do we lift that veil? How
do we be able to see it?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Is it about trying to figure out if there is
life after death?

Speaker 4 (14:54):
No?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Now, because that's a cultural and a social interpretation, so
only you know it depends on your social and your
cultural upbringing, and your biases will will make those determinations.

(15:16):
And whenever you're doing any type of research, you cannot
have any biases.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
You have to look at this raw data.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So I don't usually read comments from the chat room
this early in the show, but Stargazer was saying, Dave,
you need to take Matt to Flight twenty one. He
sounds like he could do some good research. We were
literally just talking about that before the show, And I'm
gonna be honest with you. You know, Matt, he's a

(15:45):
tough guy because he never he's a workaholic. He's a workaholic.
So I'm literally going to need his wife Alison to
grab him by the ear lobes and drag them to
British Columbia to come next summer to do this because
it has to be done.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
She's behind me and she says done.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's the only way. It's the only way. But getting
back to the other question that I had for you
in regards to following up with you know, is their
life after death? I mean, obviously that is what scares people.
It scares every single one of us because outside of taxes,

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death is the only thing that we're all going to
go through that we all have in common. So what
is a ghost?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
You know, what? By definition?

Speaker 5 (16:37):
And that's here We've had this debate Alison and myself
with others and a lot of people will disagree with us,
but we don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
That's the thing is.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
We can measure it via energy, we can measure it
you know, uh, we can measure it by frequency. But
here's the thing, unless you are throwing in your biases,
then yeah, you're going to define what a ghost is.
So in one of my lectures, when I sat there

(17:13):
and I said, unless Anti May is writing on the
wall saying I am Anti May, I can make all
kinds of conclusions in my head and say, oh, this
is a concept of something that my Anti May may do,
and then start making my own conclusions.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Unfortunately, that's what a lot of paranormal teams do.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
But to define what a ghost is, I cannot because
I can measure it via energy. I can measure it
via frequency. So if you ask me what I think
a ghost is, I'm going to say it's energy. And
that's all I can say. Is this something that I
can measure and get an absolute from versus?

Speaker 4 (18:07):
But I'm not going to call it a ghost.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
I'm just gonna say it's an anomaly of energy because
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Okay. So the fact that that it's it is something
that is energy that you have confirmed, correct, okay, But
what you haven't confirmed is what is causing those voices?
Who is saying those voices? Where are those voices coming from?
Are there? Are they from a heaven or a purgatory

(18:38):
or a hell? Are they from a different dimension, a
different timeline, a different you know, maybe time travelers. I
don't know. Is it recorded energy from the Mother Earth
as we speak?

Speaker 5 (18:52):
So, and you bring up a really good point, Hey, oh,
let's step to the heaven hell portion and apologize. It
just offends anybody, But I don't believe in that because
that is a once again, that's a pre programmed social
cultural aspect. I don't look at it that way. Now,

(19:16):
the recorded aspects that has the same concept. You have
so many different variables that can cause a residual uh hunting.
I makeing air quotation marks in the air and h
These residuals are non intelligent. They are just pretty much

(19:40):
so like we were talking about a mendigo with the VCR.
They just playback based on the right conditions, the right
energy levels, and no different than That's why we carry a.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
That's why we carry.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
A can't even think of a guide of counter because
things like marble limestone, even if the iron rods are
are crafted through granite, will cause elevated spikes and radiation

(20:21):
basically harmless. But some people are hyper sensitive and they
can because of that, they will see these playbacks of history.
You know, it's a That's all it is, is a playback.
It's throwing the VCR in and seeing these clips. But

(20:43):
then you have the other scenario, which is what I
lean more toward, multi dimensional things along the lines of
astral ethereal. These are in every culture around the world,
and there's been a lot of old manuscripts about these,

(21:06):
and we were chatting before about why is it we
don't see footprint on the ground. You know when ghosts
are walking by, but you hear them. Well, one of
the aspects is you're saying, is it possible that they're above? Well,
when you have the ethereal point of view, you're looking

(21:29):
at the universe in layers, so it's going on around
you all the time. But it's just a layered aspect,
So it's not something that even though we hear it,
we know what's happening. We get to feel it because
I don't care how much tech I create. We are
the best tool in the arsenal. But to be able

(21:52):
to know that there is another layer, another aspect around
you at all times, that's exciting to me. And that's
sorry I get over enthusiastic about it.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh, I don't blame you. It's your passion, it's your life.
It's something that you have committed to. And the lucky
part for you is you have a beautiful spouse who
is very much in tune with what you're doing because
she's on her own journey as well, and you're able
to combine that. I mean, what's it like with two
minutes to go to have that type of support for

(22:29):
what you do and to have a partner in crime
that you can work together on it.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Oh my gosh, she's my muse because a lot of
times I'll be working on something and she'll go, well,
what if this or what does it be possible if
this happens and gets me to thinking about it, and
she is amazing. Yeah, it's pretty much our date night
is discussing theories and paranormal aspects.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Well, it's better than sitting on your phone on the
couch all night. Yes, okay, at least you're together. But gee,
whiz right, we got about a minute ago before we
have to go to break. At the bottom of the hour,
Matt lay from them due to effect is here tonight
on spaced out radio. The fact that you have that

(23:24):
support and that partnership where it gives you a lot
of free will to do what you want. How much
easier or how much harder does that make? Your deep
dives into this.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Only when I go down the I get hyper focused
and just to call me out sometimes because I won't sleep,
I won't stop and eat, and.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Because I get so hyper focused.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
That I want to get down to the to the
route everything, and she has to reel me in so yeah,
you know as far as that goes, Yeah, she has to.
I'm lucky, oh, because otherwise I wouldn't eat or sleep.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
In other words, you are completely addicted to solving the
paranormal mystery.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah. And on that note, Matt, I'm gonna get you
to hold on right there, because we are going to
go to break here at the bottom of the hour.
Matt lay from the medutu Effect. Meduoto dot Ca is
the website. You can check it on out there, based
out of beautiful Saskatchewan. Try and pronounce that three times America.

(24:41):
You'll get lost, I promise. But it's a great place.
We'll be right back. All right, we are clear. Remember

(25:02):
our audience can hears Hey dirty, Hi, Dave had little
dirty Your dad's in the chat room. Oh oh great, Yeah,

(25:23):
he literally said. He literally said in the chat room
that he wished he had popped your pimple on your
forehead the other day.

Speaker 8 (25:31):
Sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Mm hmmm. Said that whitehead would look like a real gusher.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
Sounds sounds like him.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
He said to say Hi before the show, Dave.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I know, I'm glad he's here.

Speaker 8 (25:51):
Me too, I'm glad he's doing better.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Uh, look at that, he says, I did so.

Speaker 9 (25:58):
Those those soldier guys as he can't stop him.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yes, thank you for your service, Corporal Joy. We appreciate
and love you man, We do, and thank you for
the blessing of Dirty Filth on this show.

Speaker 8 (26:12):
Thanks Dad, Hello, Dad.

Speaker 9 (26:16):
Yeah, I call him every night and I bug him.
M hm, he's sleep and give him a call.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, we should prank call him sometime.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
I think we should do that. Well, he's gonna know, ah,
he's gonna see a BC number in alberta number and
know exactly who it is.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
He says, nasty pimple. Thank you, Dave. This is the
first time Dirty Filth's dad has been in our chat room.
Matt oh uh huh, Yes, Sweet Robbie g Papa Filth sighting. Yes,
you know what, just for that, Okay, Now, I don't

(27:00):
do this often. Corporal Joy will be signing autographs after
the show as well. Line up to the center of
the studio if you don't mind, to the center of
the studio. We don't do that often. Dirty, How do
you feel about your dad signing autographs after the show?

Speaker 8 (27:21):
Well, they just have to give him a stamp.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
He looks like a stamped kind of guy.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
And he only rites in cursive, so a lot of
people might not understand it.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, you know what, I bet you he's the kind
of guy literally who would like bring the stamp out.
But every now and again he'll say, you know, for
an extra forty bucks, I'll actually sign it. Little Cam
on YouTube did one hundred and fifty eight push ups
in two and a half minutes to warm up for

(27:52):
tonight's show, Signs of Life. How you doing samprifize your
dadd a marine?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I don't think so is the Canadian Armed Forces? Jennifer.
How are you look at Jessica Davenport. She's like, I
want an autograss you can stamps?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Can you see that?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Apparently? Hold on, let me zoom in. I can see that.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, this matter approved?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Oh lovely, lovely.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I still use that for all my official documents at work.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Ah got you, Corporal Joy, a great Canadian. I'm gonna
tip my cap to you, my friend, hit my cap
to you. Thank you for your service. Love you. What
a beauty that dirty film? His dad is just a
freaking beauty.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
He's got more hair than me.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Everybody has what about on his chest?

Speaker 9 (29:10):
No, No, unfortunately, I'm the king of that, Dave. Mmm mmm,
we're equally handsome, me a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Mm hmm. That's good stuff.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
If I may say one thing, when I went to
animation school in Vancouver for four years, he paid my
rent the entire time and gave me extra money to squander.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Nice and now you owe him beers for life.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
Yeah, pretty much? Yeah, yeah, Bubble Vodkas and chicken wings forever.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Like a good chicken wing. I like a good chicken
wing with some poutine. That's good stuff, greasy fries.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
Look at that. There's a whole bunch of Canadians in
here today, Dave.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know, Oh it's good stuff. All right, guys, hold
on one second here, big thank you to t Bone
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Get one.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Here we go with the second half hour spaced Out Radio.
Good to have you with us. My name is Dave Scott.
We appreciate you tuning us on in wherever you are
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The Med Too Effect. We are talking about technology and

(31:28):
the paranormal. Can the two mix? Matt, Welcome back to
the show. Good to have you here, Awesome to be back.
All right, million dollar question? Can technology solve the paranormal mystery?

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Ye?

Speaker 5 (31:47):
No, No, I won't solve it.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'll definitely help.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
The thing is in my this is my personal point
of view, is that, as I was saying, for the
paranormal is something that's normal. It's always going on around
us at all times. But as soon as you peel
back to lare and you are able to experience it,
and you are able to get those that communication open.

(32:17):
All you going to do is have more questions and
you know, so to solve the para normal mystery. I
don't think in my lifetime or I don't know, maybe
if I really stay hyper focused on it, maybe, but
as far as with the current technology that we have

(32:42):
and that but as it develops, is more and more
possibilities for those answers to happen.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
But we've got to be careful.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
With those answers because if we throw in biases, they're
not really answers, they're just assumptions.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
So how do we study something if we don't know
what we're looking for?

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, that is a really good question, and you have
to look for the root of it. You can't sit
there and say I'm going to hunt the ghost, I'm
going to hunt the CRYPTI I'm going to hunt this.
I really don't like the word hunt in any of those.

(33:26):
What you're looking for is you're looking for data. And
the more data you find. And let me give you
a really good example. When you have multiple books, Let's say,
as an example, Egyptian Book of the Dead, but you
have the Tibetan Book of the Dead, and you look

(33:46):
at them, two separate books, but when you actually start
reading them, you realize they're saying the same thing.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
It's the same concept with the paranormal.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
When you're looking for data, you're looking for this piece
that correlate, and you start finding those pieces where you
can actually create the storyline out of the data versus
I've only got this one little piece here, so and
then I build this you know, the old fish story.
You know, I caught this fish, but nobody saw it,

(34:19):
so I'm going to tell everybody it was this, you know,
and you know that type of scenario. So if we're
looking for hard data and not looking for a specific thing,
you know, just data, you start piecing together all the
pieces of the puzzle instead of actually going I've got

(34:43):
a ghost or I've got this.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
If you just focus on the data.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
The frequencies, the hard evidence, the empirical evidence, then you
actually start piecing together the law, you know, the actual storyline.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Right. So let me get a little bit more specific
here for audience who may not understand when you're saying
data and empirical data, what is that to you?

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Oh? Can I give you an example?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Please?

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Okay, just recently right behind me, lean over. There's a
new device that I developed, that big monstrosity that we
can get into that later. But one of the things
that we often do when we have a paranormal occurrence

(35:41):
or different things like that, A lot of times you'll
turn around you feel like time was different. You know,
well the crap, you know, the time just moves so fast.
I thought I was in there for like thirty minutes,

(36:02):
but it's only been like five minutes. You or different
things like this, those are once again, I will always
say this, I don't care how much tech I build.
At the end of the day, we are our best
tool in the arsenal. But how do we measure that?
So I use something called a DT meter. DT meter

(36:24):
was established to measure time distortions for up phenomenon and
as a little redundant, but anyway, the concept here is
because every time there's been a UF siding, there's been
some type of time distortion, and so this Silicon Valley

(36:47):
engineer came up with this really cool tool called a
DT meter, and so while testing this, we were able
to measure eight point ninety nine seconds.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Difference.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
And now that doesn't sound like a whole heck of
a lot but you sit there and count out nine seconds,
and you know, especially in a dark room, can I
tell you if it was slowed down or sped up?

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
All I know is that the actual data is eight
point ninety nine seconds variable and all it is dt
meters sends out ones and zeros to a probe and
it creates a timing circuit back and forth. So when
an anomaly happens and forces that bend, then it measures it.

(37:38):
At most in the past, I've been able to measure
point zero two three something, you know, but it's the
first time we've ever been able to measure and confirm
to go alongside of everybody going well, that only felt
like it was like five minutes. It was forty two minutes.

(37:58):
But we also measured in eight point nine to nine
second gap or bend in time space time. So and
that's the only way that it can happen. So that's
hard data to correlate to what you feel.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
So what is the purpose of going at it? From
that aspect of going after you know, those time blips,
those time warps, those those energy fields.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
It's how many times have you experienced something? And then
you have to sit back and go did it really happen? Yes,
you know, now you.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Have data.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
To back up, not just okay, you know, not just
you got two or three people going, yeah, that that happened.
I think it happened, you know, kind of feeding off
of each other. Now you have data about it up.
So and that's what I get excited about is when

(39:05):
I experienced something and now I have data to actually
back it up, and then it makes me want to
go further into it.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
So how do you collect this data?

Speaker 5 (39:21):
M Well, you know, most most arsenals are K two
meters and whatever. We don't use any of those. We
actually use a silloscopes, spectrumentalizers. I love my dual frequency

(39:43):
a selloscope. It's one of my favorite tools in the
arsenal because I can measure multiple different aspects and have
two wave bands on the screen and be able to
watch that and record. But at the same time spectrumentalizer
be able to measure for impedances or anything like that.

(40:03):
And then, of course, like I mentioned before, the DT meter,
we use the Geiger counter. It's a small unit that
actually records, so anything is frequency or hard data that
can't be Unfortunately, and I saw this comment in the chat,

(40:26):
and it's a very good comment. Sometimes we get data
and we try to bend it to our answers. No,
that's not the case here. We need data that cannot
be disputed. And that's what I like about using the spectrumentalizers,
so anysilloscopes. Yeah, you could turn around and say that

(40:52):
is because some idiot walked through here with a phone,
you know, But at the same time you have to
look very closely and look at all aspects of the
data that's coming through.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
And how does this coincide with trying to coordinate contact
from the other side.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
My definition of the what do you mean by the
other side, because.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Well, wherever these ghost spirits, voices, phenomena are coming.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
From, anywhere between Really, at the end of the day,
is what we're doing right now, Dave. We're communicating and
if we can a lot of times, a lot of times,
whether it's whatever your definition is of these events, a

(41:47):
lot of times it has to be a case of communication,
you know, whether it be up based communication, whether it
be ghosts and I'm using air quotations again, it's communication.
If you can gain levels of communication, then you can

(42:10):
turn around and learn more about whether it's multi dimensional,
whether it's an aspect of veils, whether or not it's ethereal.
You know, there's so many different theories and ideas out there.
Which one is there one that's right? Is there a

(42:30):
cumbination of a bunch of them?

Speaker 4 (42:33):
So?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
So, is that kind of like taking a step back
where say somebody like me or somebody listening in saying, hey,
we're going to go to the local museum and go
for a ghost hunt, where instead of thinking we're hunting ghosts,
we're taking steps back to say, Okay, it may not
be a ghost, it may be something else. Let's break
it down to the smallest and lowest denominator that we

(42:57):
can in order to start from scratch to see where
this is going exactly.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
I'd never like to go into a location where somebody says,
excuse me, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
If somebody says I'm haunted, no.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
I immediately I don't look at it from that aspect,
and I don't look at it as an aspect that
they are haunted. They are being affected by something that
they don't understand. Really, at the end of the day,
that's what all of us are experiencing. We're experiencing something
that we don't understand, and we're just trying to understand

(43:42):
what's happening. Once again, I go back to the these
are occurrences that I feel that are normal, and with
that being said, we're trying to understand what this normality
is going on around us some of us, some of
us have that happened all the time. Some of us
it's once in a blaooon. Some people never experience it.

(44:05):
But when you are going into a location and you
are pre programmed, yeah, I'm going in looking for a ghost,
You're going to probably find a ghost because you're focused
on that. But if you're going in looking for just data,
then you can go in with a little bit more

(44:27):
open mind and only look for part evidence.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
The end goal is what.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Well for me, me personally, is to drive my wife
mental uh no, uh no, as uh. I love to
find more. The more I dig into something, I want

(44:59):
to learn more and.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
I want to.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Everything can be keep being broken down to the basics,
and that to me is really important. You can't just
stop and say okay, I've identified this.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
It's like going back to this DT meter.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
I can't just stop and say okay, I'm done, I've
measured it, I'm walking away.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
No, I want to know more of.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Not only why it happened, but I want to know
how can I recreate it, because that's what makes it
empirical evidence. But at the same time, I want to
know how often does this happen? Is this something that
we created or is this something that normally happens? So

(45:50):
see how all the questions will start layering on top
of each other, and that's the driver of all this.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
What patterns have you noticed?

Speaker 5 (46:03):
And this is gonna sound I'm gonna give an example,
and then I'm elaborate on that example. When remember when
the SB eleven first came out ghost Box and everybody
was all excited about that. I watched a live feed
Paranormal Investigator, which is so excited about it, and he
literally was staring at this device and he's doing the

(46:25):
whole in the middle of the floor, and he's like,
just just just say my name. That's all I want.
I just I want whatever's here this is, say my name.
He kept chanting that over and over and over. Guess
what happened. It said his name and exactly his voice. No,

(46:46):
that was not a spirit. It works off of frequencies
and you are projecting and you are focused on it.
With that being said, we can create our own ghosts.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
We can create all these different aspects. But when we.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
Are contaminating a field, uh, it's we can contaminate a
field with our own thoughts. We can project and that
alone definitely aligned. So we have to be very cautious.

(47:26):
If we're not. Do you want to ghost there to
be there? You're gonna make a ghost you want it
to be this, it's going to happen. So we have
to with all these different tools and all these different things.
When we are projecting, we're going to create.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
So in other words, we're creating our own taalpas.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Yeah, yeah, and sometimes yes, Uh, we can make our
own false positives. How does that happen, Well, it's it's
recorded through a lot of whether you want to call
it pseudoscience or whether or not you want to look
at the actual science of projecting. Uh, you know, from

(48:15):
remote viewers to everything else. By projecting energy, you can
manipulate the energy fields. Yeah, that's uh, that's something that
happens a lot. A haunting and air quotation marks again

(48:39):
that I went to we all went to actually and
we went through a full sweep of the house. We
couldn't find anything other than you know, we expected like
high MF levels and then to be hyper sensitive and
everything else. But at the end of the day, it
took Zener cards. Now Zener cards are remember back in

(49:01):
the seventies, we're supposed to be testing for esp and
everything else.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
So whenever.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
The mother was having a really, really bad day, activity
ramped up. All it took was a two hour conversation
the daughter, who was autistic. By the way, another paranormal
team wanted to do a exorcism on the autistic child
for a three thousand dollars. That's what we're going up against, folks.

(49:35):
But anyway, that's anyway Dave and I have had several
conversations about nuts dogs like this. But anyway, all it
took is I turned around and I asked the mother,
I'm holding up a Zener card. Can you tell me

(49:56):
what card am? I holding up a star, so not
squiggly lions.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
That's the daughter. I'm holding up a Xenior card. What
card him?

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I'm holding up square? No, sorry, star. Then I showed
it to the mother. The daughter got it. Every single time.
The mother would get the daughters every single time. It
turns out they were feeding off of each other and
they were projecting this energy through their own frustrations. All

(50:25):
of their hauntings disappeared when they actually just sat down
every day and discussed how their days were going. So, yes,
we can project, we can manifest all these activities going on,
but unless you're willing to identify it, that you're probably
causing it. That was my very first investigation. It was

(50:46):
actually a child that was causing it, not a spirit.
So we do project no different than you walk into
a room and right after an argument you feel that tension. Yeah,
you don't have to look at anybody, you don't even
have to see the glades over in their eyes at
each other, but you can feel it.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
That is that energy in that air that you can feel.
So we manifests.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
What about communication is we got about three minutes to
go here trying to create that communication with those voices
on the other side.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Well, I do.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
One of the things that I do like is EVPs,
but not in the same aspect that a lot of
people that were listened to EVPs Electronic Voice phenomena phenomenon.
Every time I said I want to go phenomenon, No, no, no, no, anyway,
the but I have to listen to them, not only forward,

(51:55):
but listen to him reverse slowed down. I changed a
bit just to make sure I'm not doing paradilia through
the audio, because how many times you hear something and
immediately go, oh, it said this, and until you slow
it down or you know, you have to identify it. Well,
that's why I have now a phonetics AI platform that

(52:17):
I've built to remove that human element out of it. So,
but to communicate, that's why I focus strictly on frequencies
and not on the generalize. I focus strictly on the
killer hurts, which is what seems to work the best

(52:38):
that range on the killer hurts because I see the
hurts and the killer hurts of the natural Earth's energies.
So that's why I like to focus on those.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
When you're communicating with this spirit, you are able to
get those frequencies that they are speaking on.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
We've measured anywhere.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
It depends though, because purpose a person once again projecting
can change the dynamics in the room. So if me,
you know, you and myself are in a room and
we're trying to communicate, and I leave the room and
Let's say my wife Allison comes in a room. The
entire dynamic has changed, and once that dynamic has changed,

(53:25):
then that baseline frequency has changed. So you have to
be able to adapt quickly and like, for example, one time,
I'm measured solid seventeen herts, no disputing it, seventeen herts.
But I changed the dynamics of the group and that
entire frequency changed. So it's not only the frequency that

(53:51):
they're community communicating, it's the frequency that we are emitting.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, I can see that, but you like to get
it or try to, like to get into intelligent conversations
with whoever you're communicating or whatever you're communicating with. We're
going to get more into that in the next hour.
But I mean, you have got some pretty intriguing messages

(54:19):
over time that you've been able to to record. And
a lot of people have never heard an e VP before,
they've never heard a ghost talking to them, or if
they have, they probably brushed it off. Has something to
do with some sort of mind bending trick that their
brain is doing. But we're going to get more into

(54:40):
that when we return on Spaced Out Radio. Matt lay
is our guest tonight from the beautiful Province of Saskatchewan.
His website medutou dot Ca. He is the creator of
the mdooto effect. We'll be right back. This is faced

(55:02):
out breaking up with Hopes.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
All right, we are clear. We're gonna turn things over
to Dirty Failth here for a little bit, and Matt,
we got about five and a half minutes. Okay, sounds good.

Speaker 9 (55:29):
Hello Dirty, Hello, Deve, go feed the dog, then the
big Foot.

Speaker 8 (55:36):
Dave, it's very important.

Speaker 11 (55:39):
Stop me.

Speaker 8 (55:40):
He's got to go. He's got to go. Put snacks
out for the Bigfoot dog man. Already there, do them.
My little advertisement for my book, which came out in September.
Find it at Amazon dot com. Just plug in Cryptic

(56:02):
Cartoons with Dirty Filth.

Speaker 9 (56:04):
It'll be on there. There's two volumes so far. Second
one has a lot more comics in it to the
first one, because obviously you get a second.

Speaker 7 (56:16):
Little bit better.

Speaker 8 (56:17):
This is a little little advertisement decided to make. Came
to me the other day, Hello boy, you coming up?
Come on.

Speaker 9 (56:27):
The Grimlin doesn't know what he's doing, or anybody that
watches my show on Saturdays and pretty much anytime kind
of probably familiar with the Gremlin of the Argoyle Rudiger's
and I want to see thanks for my pop for
coming in and doing his best embarrassed me, but I

(56:49):
have no shame father. So anyway, is this a cartoon
I'm doing here?

Speaker 8 (56:57):
It's it's about Bigfoot.

Speaker 9 (57:00):
And he's doing an advertisement for my show. I'm just
so done that penciling here, but the inking rather so. Anyways,
there's big Foot saying that I enjoyed this new book
ten out of ten stars. And then I show up
with his with his laundry. It's definitely not a sack

(57:21):
full of money or anything, and they say, here's your laundry, sir.

Speaker 8 (57:27):
He goes cut to commercial cuts, commercial.

Speaker 9 (57:30):
S's there's you know, there's none of that stuff. There's
no bribing going on. There's no bribing of Sasquatch. This
is actually his laundry.

Speaker 8 (57:40):
I can assure you that.

Speaker 9 (57:45):
But on top of that, I also got my new
calendar done today.

Speaker 8 (57:51):
That soccer came out earlier today. Let me let me
sure that it didn't.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
If you'd like a calendar for the next year, I
share the Lincoln in the YouTube chat there. That's my
twenty twenty sixth calendar. I think it's probably like my
fourth calendar at this point in time, and it's got
a whole bunch of interesting dates about UFOs and things

(58:17):
like that, a couple of Crypti dates and everything in
there as well.

Speaker 8 (58:23):
Yes, I think it's like twenty one bucks.

Speaker 9 (58:25):
Canadian or forty one bucks Canadian, which is like five
dollars American, because everything gets expensive these days. I do
a calendar of a year, and I also sent out
Christmas cards to everybody, So if you're interested in Christmas card,
you can.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
Go to filthy dot com and send me an email.
You have to have some sort of post office box or.

Speaker 9 (58:47):
Valid living address of some sort, so I can send
a Christmas card to you. People like Jewels have had
one for the last like ten thousand years. I just
got to make sure we get sasquatch a little more
left here. There's the Grimlin doesn't always do He just
balked his head. Come on, you come on upper one.

Speaker 8 (59:05):
There we go. I found a Grimlin. Everybody, could I
found a grim.

Speaker 9 (59:09):
Yeah, he's it's definitely a Grimlin. He's is gonna pile
on top of everything now.

Speaker 12 (59:16):
But yes, also if you're interested more cartoons, I can't
see because his cat and awake every Saturday at three
pm Mountain time, Mountain Standard do a cartoon and usually
the cats are there as well.

Speaker 9 (59:33):
And my compliss Fox Vegas and show off some of
the plushies that I've she's been working on and pertained
to my cartoons.

Speaker 8 (59:42):
I ramble about, are working junkin this Saturday.

Speaker 9 (59:46):
Actually I'm doing a drawing rate from scratch view request,
so that'll be interesting.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
I've never done one of those before, so it's gonna
be fun. So yes, but after this I can have
to go and give the cat snacks. The gargoyle is
licking my leg my kneecap. Stop it. He's out of control. Everybody,
I tell you the cats. I hope everyone has a
wonderful rest of their night. Dave should be back here momentarily.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
I am able to.

Speaker 9 (01:00:20):
Sign up here and keep some cats some cat snacks
because apparently there's starting despite the fact that missus Phil's
that's had them already earlier today. Oh boy, what's the
eateenth correctly, Yes, there's my little advertisement there.

Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
Crypto Cartoons Volume two available now on Amazon. Look at
there's a cat.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
There you go, there, you go.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
That's why I'm not bribing Sasquatch, Dave cuts commercial, Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:00:52):
Matt, Dave, everyone else, you have a wonderful rest of
your eating and I'll see you in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Thank you, Dirty Phil, You're dirty. Thanks all right? Thank
you Tonight to t Bone, who's still holding down our
lone super chat of the night, and get your questions
ready for Matt this half hour and uh you going, Karen,
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and somebody who's trying to blend technology to solve what
is the paranormal mystery? And Matt, thank you so much

(01:02:48):
for coming here. His website is mudotu dot ca if
you want to check it on out. Thank you for
joining us.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
I've been reading some of the questions in the chat
looking forward to get into those.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Well, let's start off with this one right off the bat.
Shelley is asking what is your theory?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
On mediumship?

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Well, okay, just like paranormal teams, is what's that percentage
that we came up with about five percent or legit?

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Unfortunately a lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Psychics or whatnot, however you want to work mediums are
holding their handout. They want the money more than want
to help. But there are some legitimate psychics out there,
and this goes back to the concept of getting.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
In tune with your environment. When you are you're.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
As an individual projecting energy, you can be more in tune.
So but at the same time, and you tell them
kind of sugarcoating this with some of the some of
the psychics because unfortunately I like the story I just

(01:04:17):
told about them. The autistic child there was that was
a psychic that was running that and wanted to do
the exorcism on the autistic child. Just recently within the
past year, another psychic tried to do an exorcism on

(01:04:41):
a two year old child and of course for high
dollar amount. The legitimate psychics out there, the ones that
are actually you won't hardly find them. So I have

(01:05:02):
a hard time with psychics personally because there are so
there are so many out there, and I call them carnies.
There are so many carnies out there. So if I
have a psychic here, one of the devices that we
have is we have a portable.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
ECG meter.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
So what we do is we actually measure their body
changes while we're also measuring their energy field, so their
bioelectric field, which we finally figured out how to do.

Speaker 13 (01:05:44):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
But because everybody has their own energy field about them.
So whenever a person is psychic and using that term,
then that's why we measure. And there's been some amazing

(01:06:07):
psychics here in Saskatchewan, but I can only tell you
that we've only found maybe two out of all the
ones that we've talked to that weren't trying to do
the h Carney routine the snake oil. So I'm apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Explain that I'm gonna cut you off right there for
a second because I think you're bringing up an extremely
valid point here. Okay, because for a lot of people
out there, people who go to psychics, and I have
had the ability to meet a number of really good
psychics and ones that you know, I wouldn't lend them
ten bucks, no, And I think a lot of psychics

(01:06:53):
they you know, a lot of people who go to
psychics are are in a bad time in their life. Okay.
They're not going for entertainment purposes or for just show
and tell. They're going there because maybe they lost a
loved one, or they can't find a job, or you know,

(01:07:13):
they're just going through a horrible time in their life
and they're looking for some sense of validation. And hope,
and I do believe that there are a lot of
people who take advantage of that, mainly by reading body
and emotion.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
That is exactly right.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
And I appreciate the clarification because in the chat a
lot of times mediumships, psychics, all of those get clustered
into one grouping, just like paranormal. Paranormal is a blanket term,
and all of these things can get piled into one category.

(01:07:54):
So with that being said, is a very good clarification,
and in the chat that in this aspect talking to
the dead. But once again, this is just my personal opinion.
That is more of a biased approach because it's kind

(01:08:17):
of like when people go into cemeteries to do ghost funds.
Dave knows my personal opinion on that. And because I mean,
all right, let's say like if I am going to
be haunting a location, I am not going to be
haunting a gravestone. I'm going to be on a beach
on the Gulf Coast. There's no way I'm going to

(01:08:38):
be haunting in a graveyard. But when people go into graveyards,
to me, that's very disrespectful and you know, things like that.
But to talk to the dead things along those lines
I can't disprove or confirm or deny. I heard a

(01:09:02):
bunch of different accounts, But to me personally.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
I think that's.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
Moral along the lines of a biased approach, because not
everybody believes, not every culture, not every society believes that
is even possible.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Would you consider yourself intuitive? Is there a difference between
mediumship and intuition?

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
You can people can read energy when you go into
a room where you can know if there's a variation
of that energy. We are walking in tennis, so so
we can pick up different variations of energy. It's no

(01:09:52):
difference in going into a room that's extremely static. So
excuse me. So if you go in there, you can
feel the static in the air. It's no different in
any scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
So okay, so let's change it. Take it off of
the ghostly paranormal side for a second. Let's go into
the forest, where I think human intuition does kick in
when you get into the forest, if you're being watched
or followed. There's been times where I've been in the
forest where I'm like, something's around You turn around and

(01:10:32):
there's a deer right behind you, or or you know,
a mountain lion like I remember the night we had
the mountain lion, you know, come by us, like within
forty fifty sixty feet of us, like literally three minutes
after we put our pointy sticks away, you know. But
we had felt earlier on that there was something animal

(01:10:56):
around and then right as we're going to leave, we
have the mountain lion sighting. So my question is if
you're in the forest, say looking for bigfoot or a
lot of hunters will say, hey, it feels the energy,
feels like there's a bear around here, or a moose
around here, or a deer or a rabbit or whatever

(01:11:18):
it may be. There is those those times when when
we have those situations happen where intuition, our own knowledge,
is telling us what is in our surroundings.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
Yep, and that you're exactly point on point with us,
you know, removing anything from the paranormal.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
We go back to that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
Oh what I was saying, You go into a a
room and people have been arguing, you know, it's the
same concept. You feel that energy, you feel that in
that area, but you go into the woods, you're more
you're more connected to the environment. And once again is

(01:12:06):
it my personal opinion, but you are in the forest.
You are grounded, you are connected to the environment. The
environment is also putting off energy. Think of it as
water and something to swimming through the water, whether it's
close to you or not. But you feel the waves.

(01:12:26):
So it's how you interpret those and it's the same concept.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Don't you. Okay, So with your machines that you were creating,
because you've played some of the voices for me, I'm
not sure if we could do that here, or if
you could fire it up or what have you. But
are you getting real time communication with these with these spirits,

(01:12:54):
entities whatever we call them.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
No, I wish, I really wish.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
That's something I would really like to get to.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
The point is real time communication, not necessarily reviewing and
then going, holy crap, this was going on the whole time.
To me, that's disappointing. That kind of defeats the purpose
of the whole thing. You want to be able to communicate,
not find out later that you were actually communicating and

(01:13:28):
you missed the whole you know, conversation. And I can
play that through the mixer board here, but say, like
this particular EVP, it was all for the recent tests
and through the analytics we had to slow it down

(01:13:48):
in order to be able to get the wording out
of it, because initially it just sounds like a blip.
That's going back to what we were saying earlier. A
lot of times we hear these type of scenarios and
we dismiss it as a blip, you know, or didn't

(01:14:09):
dismiss it as a technical glitch. But in this case,
after slowing this down and running through the phonetics analytics,
it's saying and unfortunately, I'm planting this in your head,
so now you're going to be doing the whole paradilia thing.
But phonetics comes back and says that I see you,

(01:14:34):
and this is it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
I'll play it again.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
So what did that say for people who didn't understand it?
What's that? What did that say for people who didn't
understand it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
I see you?

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
Okay, that's only now paradilia For those who don't know paradilia,
when you your brain sees it's called the man in
the moon syndrome. It's a normal function of the brain
where you see patterns and you make a face out
of it, or some type of you know, scenario like that.

(01:15:15):
So in this case scenario you can do also the
same thing with audio, and you're going to make it
into something that you want.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
It to be. So that's why I have.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
To rely on a phonetics platform, a separate phonetics platform,
because I got to take the human element out of it,
because the human element will turn around and say, you know,
I heard this, I heard that. So in this case,
it came back and it typed out I see you,
and it gives me a way form analysis of each letter.

(01:15:55):
So but with this, and it sounds so drug out
it is because it slowed down. The initial file is
very quick played again, I was requested in there.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
So that's the thing is I have to try to
remove the human element out of these things because if
I put the human element in there, I'm going to
start filling out and going I heard this or heard that,
you know? So yeah, you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
And did I ever tell you the story of what
triggered this?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
No, fine, tell us a story.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
We were on Cowlesses and uh, there was a situation
where the camera blipped and we heard this squeak. We
immediately dismissed it as battery and and and we also
dismissed the squeak as the floor and as we've chatted before,

(01:17:10):
I tend to go back to old evidences. As technology evolves,
I go through old, old evidence, and I want to
learn more about what we dismissed, just like an entire
directory of dismissed items, you know, debunked, as we would

(01:17:30):
like to call it. So I go back and I listen,
and then I learned, Okay, wait, I got to slow
it down, you know, so I've changed timing on it
because this is my big topic. I want to talk
to you about timing. So once I slowed it down,
I realized it was actually a full conversation, whereas it

(01:17:51):
on the camera it just sounded like a blip. Now
here's here's the thing, and this is something for everybody
to think about. We know all of our formulas for
time or based on this physical universe, time effects, audio, video,
what we see everything, and because we don't know what

(01:18:18):
the formula is for time on the on any other realm,
whatever your definition is, veil, multi dimensional or anything else,
we don't know what that formula is to actually communicate.
So that's why you have to listen to everything in

(01:18:39):
different times, different sequences, and you can't just assume that
whenever you see the big giant apparition in front of you.
Time affects what you see visually, so that's the same concept.
You could be actually seeing something very gentle, very nice,

(01:19:03):
trying to communicate with you, but because of our own
fears and the distortion between understanding the difference in time,
this will actually end up looking like this big gray
mass monstrosity. So it's how we perceive it and how

(01:19:24):
we're willing to sit back and look at these.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
So that voice that we heard is we got about
five minutes to go here, that said I see you.
Was that just it communicating through the machine on its
own volition, or was that you asking questions in it
responding we had.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Actually right right after that happened, is when we got
the time distortion literally seconds now using that very loosely
because defined seconds in this case. But uh, the time
distortion device triggered the alarm, and but and or we

(01:20:07):
kept saying we are here. It was the actual kind
of the mantra of the whole thing. And this is
a group of a wide variety of UH. You got atheists,
you got pagans, you got a wide variety of UH skeptics, all.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
In one room.

Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
But that was one of the biggest things kept saying
was we are here, and then the phrase I see you,
and then the alarm triggered for the DT meter kicked.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Off, and that's where you found the voice.

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
Correct well, unfortunately didn't find the voice until afterwards.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Can you get that into a real time conversation eventually?

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
I think it could, But that's the challenge. The reason
I say it's a challenge because the frequencies are constantly changing,
constantly changing, and everything that we've measured so far, there's
never a constant.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
On the frequencies. So that's why.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
The newest rendition is hopefully going to be able to
bridge that gap. M crossing my fingers. Let's go to
a question from our audience. Let's go to necessary dialogue.
Has our time ever changed?

Speaker 6 (01:21:49):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
I think if it did, and I've read a lot
of different things on this which make a lot of
sense that it has. But however I cannot confirm or
deny only on the basis that I don't know. That's

(01:22:16):
that's one of those things I love to read on,
but I can't make a hard conclusion on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
That's what many people believe the Mandela effect is all
about two.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
Yeah, and there's also the concept of different stages and
evolution that time changed. So there's a wide there's a
huge amount of papers written on it anywhere, between jumps
and societies, the jumps in even with the jumps of

(01:22:59):
UAP in different eras there were cause by time changes.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
There's a lot of different papers on this subject.

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
And the problem is is I really I can't confirm it,
and I just love reading and researching on it because
I find it fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Yeah, the Mandala effect blows me away. It just it
really makes me wonder if we have had a jump
in certain timelines. I don't think it's all one timeline,
but maybe different ones all intersecting, kind of like tectonic plates.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
M h.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
There is a hard theory that and I'm going to
go back to the old manuscripts. In the old manuscripts
say state that there's specific times and dates to carry
out certain actions. Well, what if these were actually mapped
out in earlier times as thin points for different time conjunctions.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
I'm gonna get you to hold on right there, because
we're coming back in about twenty five seconds. We do
have to go to break I cannot believe how quickly
this is flying on by. It is always a great
time when Matt Lay from the Medutu Effect is here
on Spaced Out Radio. Not only does he have the
best beard in the paranormal, but he also is an

(01:24:32):
absolute brainiac when it comes to trying to use technology
to prove what else is out there. It's like he
has his own scientific lab in his own home and
that's what he's doing. And we got more until the
top of the hour with Matt Lay right after that.
Stay tuned, everybody.

Speaker 10 (01:25:00):
Mm hmmm, you're listening to Space Down with your host
Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
All right, we are clear. Shelley agrees you have a
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Speaker 7 (01:25:27):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Excuse me. She's literally my favorite Shelley in the world.
Mh only Shelley, I know for the ch.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
The interesting part about that one question is another device
which is going out for beda testing, uh uh, for
meditation or anything along those lines, dreams you know. Uh,
that's it's almost done. It'll be done this week and
it'll be going out for beta testing and then if

(01:26:15):
everything works well, then we'll put it on the website.
But yeah, it's uh uh, it's not just about finding data.
If we can also help with consciousness and and help
open people's minds, then definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
This is a a.

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Goal.

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No, I really like these, so I should have switched
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Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
Yeah, this is the black one, but the your big
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Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Yeah. You know what's funny about that that logo. I
was using a company that I paid a membership for
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of a sudden, about a month ago, I got an
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Yeah okay, and they wanted me to buy another yearly
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Now it doesn't make sense so I ran that logo
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(01:29:51):
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about what happens once we are gone. Goodbye, Goodbye real world. Matt.
Welcome back, my friend, the best beard of the paranormal
right here.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
Yeah, I'm not sure about the after we're gone, but
I'm still trying to figure out a lot of different
things that are going on. I'm playing with a four
hundred thousand volt transformer in my hand, so I put
that down.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Yeah, we don't need you to get electrocuted, you know,
until after we do the show. After It's fine, it's
not right now. You ready for more? Audience questions.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
Oh yeah, absolutely, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Let us go here and let us go to Jules.
What is your opinion then about remote viewing?

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
Ooh, actually, remote viewing is one of my absolutely fascinations.
And coming up here from Atlanta, Georgia, after they lost
the funding and the remote viewers still tried to keep
the location live, I think there's a there's too much

(01:33:13):
evidence to support it now to understand how and the
whys and throwing a throwing the the actual data behind it.
I can't do that because I've never measured that. But
I actually have the Remote Viewing Handbook here. We have

(01:33:36):
a pretty extensive library here, and it's one of my
favorite topics. And I used to love they used to
have this chat room and this is oh my gosh,
I don't ask me the time frame, I'll start telling
my age. But they used to have this chat room.
This is back when dial up is the big thing, and.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
I used to love to.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
Go in there and we would have these long, lengthy
conversations on different theories. And I love the aspect of
remote viewing. Too much evidence supports it, but I don't
have any data to back it up.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
All right, let's move on let's go to Amy. What
are your thoughts then on time travel? Mm hmmm, oh
my favorite subject.

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
Pen and No, we were matter the other night when
we were talking about this eight point ninety nine second variance.
We were actually you said, well, technically your time traveled.
Well I wouldn't call it that, but you know, technically
you're right. But okay, I'm gonna look at it from

(01:34:57):
two different lenses on this question. One is the philosophical
uh more along the lines of the metaphysical aspect, which
would be uh that time doesn't exist in that realm
uh ethereally or astray. So with that being the case,

(01:35:21):
then time travel is a normality of consciousness. However, time
travel in the concept of traveling through time, I'm gonna
have to lie lean toward Einstein's theory on this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
In other words, if you're trying to.

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
Uh time travel, you know, aside from the paradox aspects,
and uh, I think the energy, the amount of energy
that would actually have to that we know that would
take to do this would be very difficult and it

(01:36:07):
wouldn't be possible now, so time in the future, whatever,
then there's that possibilities. But I can only speak to
what we does you know what we do know? So
so that aspect.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
No, I think time travel is happening. There's a lot
of interesting points of it. And look, when I say
I think it's happening, this is purely speculation and want
on my part, it really is. You know, I want

(01:36:45):
to believe there are mortals. I want to believe there
are time travelers visiting here on vacation.

Speaker 14 (01:36:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
It makes me wonder what else could be out there.
I think I think it makes for interesting conversation that
we have.

Speaker 5 (01:37:03):
I'm chuckling because of that whole thing. If aliens, you know,
we're flying by the earth right now, they're locking their doors,
you know. But it's the same concept of time travelers,
you know. Can you imagine them popping up right now
going oops wrong one? Or it might be the concept
of you got to slow down to see the train wreck.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Well, it also makes you wonder if time travelers come
to this timeline say no, this is too wild out here.
I'm out. Yeah, yeah, I'm out. You know, I don't
need any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:36):
I mean, I find it actually fascinating. I've seen a
lot of the photographs, but I I really.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Have a hard time.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
Accepting it only because of basically love relativity. That's really
that's why I have a hard time with it. I
love the idea behind it, and I agree with you.
I think it's actually fascinating to me. But at the
same time, I really struggle with it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
So all right, next question here, let's go to ross nonlinear.
Do you mean is that your conclusion that this is
all nonlinear?

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
No, it's it's a theory based off of different philosophical
papers and only on the aspect of the metaphysical. When
you start looking at the aspect of ethereal and astral

(01:38:45):
and mental. Uh, time is different in those different aspects.
Now as far as measuring time, Uh, time is a
measurement that we created to be able to perceive, you know,
or what's going on around us. So when it comes through,

(01:39:06):
like in this case with the DT meter measuring measuring
the time difference, then that's where uh it kind of
throws Mikey wrench in it because when I turn around
and I'm assuming I'm using that word, that time is

(01:39:28):
set at that time frame, and then the DT meter
is actually measuring the difference. That's where I have the
I have a problem with the concept of that time
can't be bent.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
All right, let's move on here, let's go next to
let's go to t bone. Have you ever had any
hitch hikers or hitchhikers come through your equipment.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
No, I've never had that issue.

Speaker 5 (01:40:03):
Personally. This is once again our personal opinion whenever, like
in this case, That's why we always make that proclamation.
We do this without fear prejudice. If you're going in
with fear and using this type of equipment, yeah, you're
probably gonna create that that aspect or attract so.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
But we've never had that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
How about with it many spirits that are roaming around
your property, because I mean, you're pretty much an electric
beacon of light attracting them in from all over.

Speaker 5 (01:40:51):
We do have a lot of activity here at the
building and it goes on all the time. But the
way we look at it is is that that's a deed.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
That's that's the normal.

Speaker 5 (01:41:02):
We don't look at it as something that's threatening or
one of the worst things.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
I can't stand.

Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
And this is just I'm probably going to offend somebody
with this statement. Is when somebody comes in here and
says I need to move them on to the light
and oh yeah, then I get all upset.

Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
No, this is uh.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
When we say this is a safe place for all,
we mean it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
You know, you know I am so against the whole
move on to the light crowd, I really am, and
I'm not going to get upset with that. I had
a very dark psychic come into our museum when I
was doing my ghost tours there to help raise money
for the museum, and she literally took my most popular

(01:41:52):
spirit who loved the tour Okay, absolutely loved the tour
and loved the people, would allow people such as you
or anybody who is on the tour actually come in
and touch her energy field. Okay, like she was that pleasant. Well,
this this lady tried to cross her over but didn't

(01:42:13):
cross her over properly. And that spirit has never been
the same since, never been the same, and she doesn't
even want to participate on the tour anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:42:29):
Well, we've had there was a couple of psychics here.
We rent out the space, and we actually don't rent
it out. We just tell people they can use the
main area and if they want to make a donation,
they can. And there was a couple of psychics that
want to come in here. And one of them, in particularly,

(01:42:50):
was offering a free reading, and I was like kind
of pushed Alison, so how about it? And so Alison's
sitting there and she's trying to do the cold reading
with her and I wasn't getting anywhere. And then immediately
deflected and she goes, I see a spirit here and

(01:43:11):
they want me to move them on to the light.
And Allison stood up says, we don't believe that here.
They're here, they want to be here, and they have
free will and you don't have that right. So, yeah,
that was the last time they were allowed to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
But don't you think a lot of people who do
that are trying to show off?

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
This one was definitely deflection. It's, you know, I'm not
getting anywhere with my cold reading. I need, you know,
I need to deflect and get away from this whole
conversation and use a distraction. So but yes, unfortunately a

(01:43:55):
lot of people do that too for the show, The
Carney Show.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
Yeah, I hear you. All right, let's move on to
another question here, Let's go to necessary dialogue. He's been
waiting a while. How fragile then? Do you think the
timeline is.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
I'm not even gonna even try to pretend like I
have a clue.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:44:27):
Because really, honestly, timeline wise, I've never measured, never explored,
but as far as reading on it, tons of reading
on it. But I wouldn't even want to make an
assumption on that because there's so many different papers on
the timeline and some I don't agree with and some

(01:44:52):
I do. Just to point out, I always encourage everyone
to always read some material that you I know for
a fact you're going to disagree with, because it's great
to get a different objective point of view. And yeah,
you may not even finish it, I can what I
was just saying, but it's great to get that different

(01:45:15):
point of view on something, even though you know for
a fact you're going to disagree with it. And there's
been a lot of these papers on timeline that I
disagree with completely, but I still like to read them,
you know, But I'm not even going to try because
I can't. I can't even pretend like I know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Blue Cruise is asking any plans for a face to
face battle of the Beard's Duel to the death where
the winner takes the loser's beard home for a wall
mount to display another conquest towards becoming the only beard left.
My god, he's calling for a beard quickening.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
I would lose. I will just let you know that
I will.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
So for our radio fans that are listening in right now,
Blue Cruise's question is very, very dynamic because it literally
puts my beard against Matt's beard. You know that's gonna
be like velcro if they came together, we'd never be
able to pry it apart. Oh, and then some ugly

(01:46:31):
scissors would get involved and have to trim.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Then then that's when the fight would actually break out.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
You got that right. Matt and I need to stay
at least twelve feet apart so our beards do not
collide in any anger or violence.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
Well, especially in the winter time when all the static
is so strong.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
I have a hard enough time with my beard not
getting stuck in my microphone.

Speaker 4 (01:46:59):
Cover mine's zippers.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Right seven minutes ago, Matt Lay is our guest tonight
on spaced Out Radio. Matt, does your equipment that you
were developing also work for UFOs and potential et contact?

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
That's the hope, the reason being is because once again,
paranormal is a blanket term, you know, for multiple aspects.
And I yeah, it'd be great to be able to
make one ranch that fixes everything. But and we also
know that's not a possibility in this. But the new design,

(01:47:42):
the smaller version of this, that's what I'm actually hoping for,
is more of a better form of communication or an
attractor is something that sends almost like out of the
beacon to say, look, I'm right here. Communicate now. Getting
that two way communication is the tricky part, like I

(01:48:03):
said before, because so many variables.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Do you think we have the technology capable of communication
with ets?

Speaker 4 (01:48:13):
Yes, I think we do.

Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
My problem is, and this is my personal problem, is
access to it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
Yeah, I can see that. I'm not sure the US
government wants to give that up.

Speaker 5 (01:48:28):
Well, I've been wondering when you're ordering multiple high powered
magnets and a lot of copper coils and high powered transformers,
and you know, I'm surprised I haven't had something knocking
on my door.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
Well, the way the Canadian government's working right now, they
can't afford men in blacks who are pretty safe with.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
That fair enough, right?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Yeah, will you guys separate who knows if they do.
I'm moving with you, buddy. You get room for me.
Let's go to let's just jewels here. What is your
opinion on paranormal healing.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
I might have to ask for a little bit more
clarification or that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
Be good.

Speaker 5 (01:49:20):
So if you're talking like reiki or if you're talking,
I'll probably need some more clarification because there are a
lot of different aspects of healing.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
In the paranormal.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
It's it's the idea that spiritual, energetic, or even unexplained
forces can play a role in restoring balance, peace and
harmony within the body and help it heal.

Speaker 5 (01:49:48):
I can only give personal accounts, and that personal accounts.

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
Like what we just did this test.

Speaker 5 (01:49:59):
There was an end of vidual that was one of
the participants and they just got through with a major
surgery and they were actually struggling, and after we ran
the equipment and everything else and everybody's synced up mentally. Uh,

(01:50:20):
that was in their account that there was no they
had no pain, they had they were able to function,
they were actually able to sleep that night. Another individual
who has a spinal injury that was in there. I'm
not saying these are replacement for doctors. I'm just stating
what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:50:40):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:50:40):
They said for the next day they had no pain,
although that pain did return. But you know whether this
is a pseudo effect or you know that, I can't
tell you. But all I know is their personal accounts
were stating that. So this say, yes, I can only

(01:51:04):
speak to those personal accounts. Were they healed, they still
had pain over time.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
So all right, man, we're done with audience questions for tonight.
Is we only got about three minutes left. This is
flying on by, man, It's flown on by. You have
a lot of projects going. This isn't the only thing
you do. You also have your online online music station

(01:51:32):
that you created. You have them ad to effect. Tell
us about those. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
The Cosmosastrum Radio running at drink, four or seven different broadcasters,
a wide variety of music. Look it up cosmos Astrum
Radio dot ca A and of course emitted to Effect
s otg Uh. It's a Scotchean ocult technology a group.
That's what we bring in not only science, but we

(01:52:03):
also bring in the aspect of old manuscripts and we
start deep, deep diving into those and of course from
a dude dot ca A site and then we also
manufacture incense and candles, and we supply multiple stores across Canada.
And there's quite a bit going on at all times,

(01:52:26):
and I'm on most of the broadcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
You're a busy guy. I don't know how you do it,
but your addiction to to trying to create technology and
wonderment to this community to take it to that next
stept forward is definitely worth a pad on your back,
my friend.

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
I appreciate it. All the electric shocks that I get
are well worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
You got to start filming some of those and making
some re people love that. Still, you know, when what
do you expect your next project to be complete?

Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:53:11):
Well, the the one that I'm working on right now
will be ready this week for beta testing. The reduced
version of this beast behind me, I'm probably looking at about.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
Two to three weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
Two to three weeks. Well, that'll be good. Keep me
in touch with that.

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
Oh yeah, I definitely will. You're gonna be one of
my biggest testers with it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
Well, the unfortunate part for me is my area is
pretty much uh done for the year. Well not the year, yes,
this year, but I won't be able to get in
there until the snow melts in April.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
True, Well, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:54:01):
I tend to make something, then a revamp it, and
then a revamp it again.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
This is the twelfth version.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
So oh it's another twelve more? Yeah, exactly, what's another
twelve more? Matt? It is always a pleasure to have
the opportunity to talk with you. I'm blessed to be
able to call you a very good friend of not
only mine, but of spaced Out Radios. You and your
beautiful wife Allison are just incredible people. Thank you for

(01:54:30):
coming on the show tonight. Coming up next Swamp Dweller,
then Robin Haynes with the Q and A. So get
your questions ready. You're listening to spaced Out Radio with
your host Dave Scott. Great show, my man, great show.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
You were one of a kind and I love you
for it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Yeah. Where's my mama said that?

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Oh brother, Let's talk soon. Okay, we got to catch up,
all right, my friend. You take care, say good night
to Alison. Give her a big hug for us. See you, guys,
Matt Lay everybody. I love him, absolutely love him and
his wife Alison. They are just two of the most

(01:55:37):
incredible people. All right, guys, I'll be right.

Speaker 7 (01:55:40):
Back us.

Speaker 15 (01:57:05):
USA, SA, right back.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
Let's bring the Robin Eator back in.

Speaker 12 (02:00:28):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
Robin, hey guy, how are you good? How are you,
my dear?

Speaker 6 (02:00:33):
I'm good, all right, good.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
Thank you for joining us tonight.

Speaker 6 (02:00:38):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 11 (02:00:39):
For having me. I'm trying to adjust the sound. You
got a little bit of kickback coming in there, so.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
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Speaker 13 (02:02:34):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radio's swamp. I'm swamp dweller,
and tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unkno sharing tales of monsters, legends and nightmares.

Speaker 4 (02:02:48):
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 14 (02:02:51):
Nearly nine years ago, a cruel act of violence ended
the life of Greg Hart before his time. In March thirteenth,
twenty ten, and Greg Hart was hanging at a local
bar named the Red Room. Little did anyone close to
Greg know this would be his last night out on

(02:03:11):
the town. Greg was seen leaving the Red Room bar
around one forty a m. Where he was alleged to
have walked to a nearby IHA restaurant, which was apparently
a spot he would frequent. After this, his friends claimed
they didn't see or hear from him for two days,
which he was subsequently found dead in the Wouna squaw

(02:03:34):
Tucket River by his friends and family who were searching
for his whereabouts. Greg had been stabbed to death. He
had multiple defense wounds on his body, showing he did
put up a great struggle. His phone was found smashed
into three pieces. He was found floating along the river bank,
and the police ruled his death as an accidental drowning

(02:03:56):
due to him being so intoxicated. They tried to explain
his defense wounds are nothing more than wounds from a
drunken fall. His friends and family refused to believe it
was a drowning, though Gregg was a certified driver and
a very strong swimmer. Being drunk could impair that, but
its so just seems a bit too fishy. Gregg's grandfather

(02:04:19):
took pictures of his body before it was embalmed, and
found that he had a broken eye socket, a damaged nose,
and cuts on his hands and bruising on his hips.
He also had odd small holes on each shin clear
signs of an altercation. At the time of his disappearance,
the Red Room nightclub was owned by the wife of

(02:04:41):
a Providence police detective. His family feels his case was
never investigated properly because of a conflict of interest. Another
detective also owns the land on which the bar sat.
Is it possible, like many other cases covered on this
channel in the past, that police could be c bring
up something Conflicting evidence about the phone found on Greg

(02:05:04):
had caused the case to move slowly. The phone was
in the water for a subsequential amount of time, the
police said, which made it unusable, and the texts and
calls on the phone are lost. But couldn't they just
take a look at phone records for that? Until this day, though,
the death of Greg Heart remains unsolved.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
Another creepy story by swamp Dweller. If you want more
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of stories to entertain you each and every day and
night time for the crypti Q and A, let's bring
in our favorite Robin.

Speaker 16 (02:05:45):
Hayes lovep Soft, Where the sawtrees sway, Gere's big foot
whisper say the psychic talks to Saskatch every day only

(02:06:09):
stay down Radioscryptic Cuban Days.

Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
Robin Haynes. We love it when you are here. Thank
you again for joining us. How are you, my beautiful friend.

Speaker 6 (02:06:24):
I am great.

Speaker 11 (02:06:25):
Thank you for having me. I love being here every week.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
I love it. Forward to it, I love it.

Speaker 11 (02:06:32):
Do you have some of the best listeners like? They
are always so kind, they come up with great questions,
so it's always fun.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
Well, we're glad that you are here as well. And
as you know, I went back to Flight twenty one
for the final time this past weekend, and it'll be
my final time for twenty twenty five and I won't
be able to get there until the spring of twenty
twenty six. And you know, I gotta tell you, I

(02:07:01):
did some reminiscing when I was there, and it felt
like so much unfinished business was going on there. I
knew they were there. I could feel them. There were
areas they didn't want us to go. But there's a
couple of things that I did donus. The gifting site

(02:07:22):
was not touched, which does not surprise me. We did
find about five juvenile.

Speaker 6 (02:07:31):
Tracks nice, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:07:35):
Including one very deep one and I didn't have my
casting equipment on, but it was very very deep. It
was very nice it. You know, I'm sure it was
smaller than what it actually came out as as a
photograph because the snow had melted a little bit.

Speaker 6 (02:07:56):
Yeah, you sent me that. That was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
Yeah, but I mean you could definitely see a heel
imprint on that. So it was nice to see that.
You know. You have called it many a times over
the last year about the kids that were there. You
call them the kids or the juveniles, you know, Yeah,
that were hanging around, So it was good to see.
We didn't see any adult prints, but we did see that.

Speaker 6 (02:08:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:08:22):
Now they were ready for you to get there, because
when you had called, I started talking to him and
the white one, the black one, and the like a
light tan sandy colored one. The three of them were
at the back and that white one hangs up front
a lot and he was walking around that way, but

(02:08:42):
he wasn't all the way up there when I talked
to him, but they were glad that you were back.

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
I was very glad to be there, very glad to
be there. And it was nice.

Speaker 11 (02:08:55):
It felt calm, like I checked out, you know, over
where the spirits are you and stuff, and they seemed
to and nobody seemed to be really you know, acting out.

Speaker 6 (02:09:05):
Or not in a good way.

Speaker 11 (02:09:07):
I mean, everything was very nice and calm, like I
figured you'd have a good experience because they it just
was nice and relaxed when I checked it out.

Speaker 1 (02:09:15):
Yeah, it was very calm. It was very nice. We
did find some right by the juvenile We did find
a track like there, if you have the one trail
going past a shrub on the left, that's where the
juvenile track was, and the path on the right there
was mountain lion tracks going through there.

Speaker 11 (02:09:34):
Yeah, that that mountain lion hangs out in that area,
Like I've seen it there a couple different times, and
like I've checked it and it seems to hang out
in that area. It's got to be, you know, got
a food source through there somewhere because it hangs around.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
Yeah. She well, we caught her on trail cam and
she is absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 6 (02:09:58):
Absolutely gorgeous at there, just stunning. But I lived in Michigan.

Speaker 11 (02:10:03):
We had one that would jump over the back fence
and come into the property. And the farmer behind us
had seen it every time. It was a big male
and would call me and say, hey, we just saw him.
He just cleared your fence. He's back in your property.

Speaker 6 (02:10:18):
And I'm like, okay. You know, he hung around that area.

Speaker 11 (02:10:22):
There was a female like a quarter of a mile
up the road that had cubs. So I'm pretty sure
that they had met up at some point in time.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
Oh, I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did. The
other thing that we did notice when we were there,
and I took my wife's friend up there because she
wanted to go check it on out.

Speaker 6 (02:10:42):
And she seemed lovely.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
She was lovely, absolutely lovely to hang out with for
that day. And we got up there. She was very
nervous at times, but she was very interested, and you know,
I had to tell her point blanks. You know, hey,
you found a footprint, we found some brins. Take some pictures. Yeah,
that's what we're here for. And so she did take

(02:11:07):
a few pictures and she she was pretty happy. She
left one of her one of her bracelets, you know,
a little little beat of bracelet on the tree. She
just just did it, and I'm looking at her, like, oh,
you're leaving a bracelet. She goes, yeah, she said good.

Speaker 11 (02:11:21):
You know, they seem to like her. They were very
relaxed about her being there. I think they were watching
because you know, they didn't know her really well, but
they were very relaxed about her. So she she had definitely,
you know, a good vibration for them, because they didn't
seem overly stressed.

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
Good. Good. But the other weird thing that I noticed
was I check the poo pile. M h Okay. Now,
when Tim and I found that pile of feces, that

(02:11:57):
was I believe back in July August, yeah, when we
found it. And what amazes me about it, Robin, is
I see droppings from every other animal up there. I've
seen bear droppings, I've seen moose droppings, deer droppings, Okay,
coyote droppings, mountain lion droppings. I've seen it all up there,

(02:12:24):
and they all biodegrade. Yeah, guess what hasn't biodegraded?

Speaker 6 (02:12:32):
Really?

Speaker 1 (02:12:33):
It is still there in all shape.

Speaker 6 (02:12:36):
And form, isn't that wild?

Speaker 1 (02:12:39):
And I am absolutely blown away by it. I am stunned.
I don't know why it hasn't biodegraded, but yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:12:53):
That's the first I've heard of anything like that. That's wild.

Speaker 1 (02:12:56):
Yeah, I mean, I really don't know. It hasn't broken down.
It's still sitting there. It hasn't moved, it hasn't it's
darkened a little bit, okay, but it hasn't biodegraded into
what you would expect. And I found other feces piles

(02:13:20):
from animals, and you could see where it was breaking down,
and there was no breakdown of any of this. Like
I don't know whether it ate too much taco bell
before being getting out there or or what have you.
But it is absolutely weird that this feces that we

(02:13:43):
believe was dropped by a sasquatch has not broken down whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (02:13:50):
Sord Yeah, I wonder if it has. And I have
no way of knowing. This is just a guess.

Speaker 11 (02:13:56):
If it has anything to do with like the type
of acid or whatever and their stomach and goes through
their bottel track, you know, maybe it's just the digestive
juices are different. I have no idea, And it's really
intriguing me because this is the first time I've ever
heard of that happening.

Speaker 1 (02:14:13):
Yeah, and it was so strange yet amazing at the
same time. Yeah, I mean, I just I couldn't believe
it when I was when I was there, trying to
figure out, how is this even happening? How is this
not biodegraded? It's been there for over two months? Three months?

Speaker 6 (02:14:36):
How Yeah, you would think that by now it would
have already been just gone.

Speaker 1 (02:14:40):
Absolutely. I mean I've seen piles that disappear, you know,
you go back there a week or two later and
it's pretty much gone, right, not three months of the
same stuff.

Speaker 11 (02:14:54):
Yeah, that's that's really incredible, now that you believe it
or not. As weird as it sounds, I would love
to know why. It's got to be something in their
body chemistry that, you know, it doesn't break it down.

Speaker 6 (02:15:05):
I don't know. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:15:08):
Yeah. I'm going to give Darryl Denton and others a
phone call.

Speaker 6 (02:15:13):
Yeah, Darryl might know.

Speaker 1 (02:15:14):
Yeah, I need to figure that part out. It's a
mystery that I just do not understand.

Speaker 6 (02:15:22):
Yeah, I'll see if I can get hold of anybody
that would know too.

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
Yeah, let's do that. I got a couple audience questions here,
sure start off with Blue Cruise. Is there any credence
to the eyewitness sightings of the Sasquatch people, dog men,
and other cryptids beings seeing playing their own version of
any type of sports?

Speaker 11 (02:15:45):
Yeah, there actually is. They they will get things to
play ball, they'll throw it back and forth. Absolutely, they
will make toys for their kids out of various things,
whether it's I mean, Janis Carter has a phenomenal picture.
I got to give her credit for it where they

(02:16:06):
made a ball, had a feather in it, whatever, and
you know, her group used it with the kids. They
would at my place, even as crazy as it sounds,
they'll get pine cones and they'll play toss the pine cones.
They'll pass pine cones back and forth to each other
all day long.

Speaker 6 (02:16:21):
But they will.

Speaker 11 (02:16:22):
They'll get dirt and mud and pack it in. They'll
make a ball out of it. I've never heard of
anybody that would be like a baseball, you know, where
they're whacking it with a bat or anything like that.
But basic simple things they absolutely do. They would go
my daughter when she was little, we had you know,

(02:16:43):
the Sasquatch kids were always running around and there was
quite a few of them, and so she took out
buckets and she put little toys of hers that she
would play in play with in McDonald's toys and stuff,
and took it out there and a cloth dow that
she left for the kids and they played with them.
And the one it was when that movie How to
Train Your Dragon came out and it had one of

(02:17:05):
the how to Train Your Dragon little toys for McDonald
and they were obsessed with that thing. They had that
little dragon for two years. They took it out of
the bucket. We didn't see it for two years. Had
a bonfire one night by the fire pet. We went
out the next day and they had pulled up. We
had the cement blocks that were actually cemented to a

(02:17:29):
cement slab and that's where the bonfire pet was. They
broke the cement blocks off of the cement slab, took
them about three four feet away from the slab, put
them in a circle, these concrete blocks, and then they
put the dragon in the middle of the circle like
they were making.

Speaker 6 (02:17:44):
A cage to keep the dragon in.

Speaker 11 (02:17:47):
I have pictures of it. It was the craziest thing ever.
But they loved that toy.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
What did they play with.

Speaker 6 (02:17:56):
Anything?

Speaker 1 (02:18:04):
What when they're out in the forest, what are they
playing with? Are they playing with animals? Are they playing
with Yeah? Are they making you.

Speaker 11 (02:18:12):
Know, they're just as inquisitive as our kids. First off,
they use every animal out in the woods as a pet.

Speaker 6 (02:18:19):
Whether it's a raccoon.

Speaker 11 (02:18:22):
I have one at my new place that has a
bobcat as a pet. You know, any animal that's out
there that they want to use as a pet, they
will use as a pet. I've seen them with foxes.
I've seen them with possums. I've seen them with raccoons.
I mean it really, whatever they want, they can between
mind control and taming it down because of frequency, they

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can make anything into a pet. And they will the
kyotes there forever, getting kyos and keeping them as a
pet dog.

Speaker 6 (02:18:52):
As far as what.

Speaker 11 (02:18:53):
They'll find out there, they'll take pine cones and play
with the pine cones. You know, it's not unheard of
where you see the kids playing with sticks, just like
our kids are out there playing with sticks, you know,
and they're whacking each other with them, and they're whipping
them back and forth, and you know, like sword fighting.

Speaker 6 (02:19:06):
They're playing.

Speaker 11 (02:19:07):
They're being children, and anything they can find out there
to play with, they will. Now, they used to steal
my kids basketballs and footballs.

Speaker 6 (02:19:17):
They didn't know what they were for. They just knew
they looked fun.

Speaker 11 (02:19:20):
And we would find the footballs and it would look
like somebody put a football in one hand and then
just squeezed it and it literally just caved it all
in and popped it and it would be totally demolished.
But you could see that they did it with one hand.
You could see thumbprints on it that were dirty or whatever.
And they had taken the basketball because I had the
garage door open one day and that's how they got
the balls out of the garage, and the basketball was

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gone for the longest time. The kids finally found it
in the field next to the house, and it literally
looked like they had tried to bite it like an apple,
Like they literally just took a bite off the side
of it, like you would take an apple and bite it.
It was crazy, but yeah, they will play with anything
they can. Like I said, my daughter used to put
toys out for them all the time and they loved it.

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I absolutely loved it. I kept, especially in the wintertime.
I had like old blankets and stuff I'd put out there,
and they dragged those blankets all over the place.

Speaker 6 (02:20:13):
You know. I had a cloth doll because I just
like with the typical little child you worry about, you know,
the eyes coming off and them getting them in their
mouth or whatever. It was a cloth doll. The eyes
and nose and mouth were embroidered on it.

Speaker 11 (02:20:25):
And there is one of the little kids that drug
that thing all over the woods.

Speaker 6 (02:20:30):
I had a friend that brought out.

Speaker 11 (02:20:31):
A hula hoop that lit up when you when you
made it go around, and she said, let's just see
what they do with it. And I was like, okay,
and so I put it out by where all the
other stuff was. Actually, they had a whole section of
stuff they played with, and you would look out there
at night and they'd be running through the woods with
that hula hoop.

Speaker 6 (02:20:48):
They didn't know how to use a hula hoop, but.

Speaker 11 (02:20:50):
They knew that when they shook it, when they moved it,
when they tossed it around, it would make it light up.

Speaker 6 (02:20:55):
They loved it. They loved it.

Speaker 11 (02:20:57):
At Christmas time, I would put a boombox out there
with Christmas music, and I would get glow sticks. Obsessed
with glow sticks. A friend of mine, Bob Daegel, tremendous
human being, and the Sasquatch love them, and he would
bring out glow sticks for them and they are obsessed
with them. They will literally play with anything, you know.
And I had the candy canes that you push into

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the ground that you would put up and down.

Speaker 6 (02:21:21):
Like your walkway.

Speaker 11 (02:21:22):
They would take off with those things all the time.
I'd find them all over the place. They play consistently.
They are always playing with something, you know. They that
adults not quite so much. They would still play with things.
But those kids, they would play with everything they could
get their hands on.

Speaker 6 (02:21:37):
Well, they're children, after yeah, exactly. And they had a
ball you know.

Speaker 11 (02:21:42):
I was very careful about when my kids put toys out,
if it was something that I would think it was
baby proof because of the mentality that they would have.
But you know, they had all kinds of stuff out there.
They never lacked for something to play with, and they
would take my kids toys to them play.

Speaker 1 (02:22:00):
What's with their curiosity?

Speaker 16 (02:22:03):
I think?

Speaker 1 (02:22:04):
Is it just all of them that are curious or
is it just the younger ones.

Speaker 6 (02:22:09):
No, I think it's all of them.

Speaker 11 (02:22:10):
The kids are more curious as far as I want
to play with it.

Speaker 6 (02:22:14):
I want to touch it, I want to play with it,
I want to see what it is.

Speaker 11 (02:22:17):
The adults are more curious as a safety hazard. Now,
some things they just like to play with, they think
it was cool to play with. But most of the adults.
What I observed at my place was if it was
something new, it had to be thoroughly investigated. Was this
something that was going to hurt the klan? Was this
something they should be aware of?

Speaker 6 (02:22:36):
You know.

Speaker 11 (02:22:36):
I had my friend Bob had given me a VHS recorder.
He said, see if you can get any footage of them.
I'm like, yeah, okay, like that's going to go well.
So I put it out in the yard, but I
put it in a clothes basket so was covered to
see what they would do.

Speaker 6 (02:22:52):
What I got was a video of all.

Speaker 11 (02:22:54):
These sticks being stuck into the clothes basket, whacking on
this video cam, know, and then you can see a
dark shape go running across the yard. But because I
had it sitting out there, you know, just in the
yard in case they would.

Speaker 6 (02:23:07):
Run around or walk around.

Speaker 11 (02:23:09):
And I did get a couple of pictures of them
walking around, but you could hear the sticks getting whacked
on that. I mean, they had a ball with anything
you put out there.

Speaker 1 (02:23:20):
That's very interesting. We got about a minute ago before
we have to go to break at the bottom of
the hour, Robin Haynes and the cryptid Q and a
continuing here on a spaced out radio. The curiosity, though,
I mean, does that curiosity ever get in what we
would perceive as humans violent.

Speaker 6 (02:23:42):
I think that it could.

Speaker 11 (02:23:43):
I think if the adults felt that it was something
that was dangerous for the family, I think it absolutely could.

Speaker 6 (02:23:49):
You know, it's like the trail cams.

Speaker 11 (02:23:51):
They tolerate them, but you can get a certain adult
in there that they think that it's going to hurt somebody.
They're gonna shrud that thing. You know, for the most no,
it's not a dangerous situation. But if they feel that
it's something that can be viewed as a threat, then yeah,
it could very easily.

Speaker 6 (02:24:10):
I've not had them get violent out of curiosity.

Speaker 11 (02:24:12):
I've had things get broken, not because they were trying
to be destructive, but because they were playing with it.
It's like, you know, dealing with bam bam rubble on
the flintstones. They've got superhuman strength. So they're having a
good time.

Speaker 1 (02:24:26):
And now I thought, Robin, Robin Haynes and the crypton
Q and A happens every week at this time. We'll
be right back for the next half hour.

Speaker 4 (02:24:36):
This is spaced out radio and your Hope's name stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:25:01):
All right, Robin, we are clear good fun times.

Speaker 6 (02:25:06):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 11 (02:25:10):
They break stuff, But the ones that I've had around,
they didn't break stuff to break it to be bad.
They would play with stuff and things would get broken, just.

Speaker 6 (02:25:20):
Like a child would, yeah, you know.

Speaker 11 (02:25:22):
And it's like in my garage, I have a pen
for the mini pigs, and at one time I had
kennels in there for the dogs, which all my dogs
are house dogs now, but there were kennels there, and
they wanted to be in there and play with them
in the worst way.

Speaker 6 (02:25:36):
And they literally took the.

Speaker 11 (02:25:37):
Bottom panel of the garage door and bent it, pushed
it in until it broke the wheels on the garage
door track, and it pushed it open enough like a flap,
and they just did the belly crawl, came right in
the garage. I came back home and everybody was let
out of pens. There was muddy footprints all over the place.
None of the animals were hurt, you know, they didn't

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destroy the garage or anything. I mean, you know, the
animals were just loose and there was footprints there. I mean,
we knew what had done it. And when I had
went into town, the garage door was perfectly intact.

Speaker 6 (02:26:12):
You know. Did they do it to break it? No,
they did it because they wanted to come in to
see what was going on.

Speaker 5 (02:26:17):
You know.

Speaker 11 (02:26:17):
I've had several things that in the middle of playtime
with them, you know, like my hose. I had it
in one of those boxes. They have a crank on
it and you can roll it all up.

Speaker 6 (02:26:27):
They wanted the hose out.

Speaker 11 (02:26:28):
They were thirsty, they wanted the hose out, and they
were forever turning the hose on at night.

Speaker 6 (02:26:32):
I mean, that was a normal thing.

Speaker 11 (02:26:34):
I'd go out there and you could see mndy footprints.
But then the backyard was flooded because they never turned
it back off. But I had it wrapped up in
that thing one day and they couldn't understand what that was,
and in trying.

Speaker 6 (02:26:45):
To figure out what it was, they ended up breaking it.

Speaker 11 (02:26:50):
You know, I mean it's kind of like a giant
sized child that you know, will play and things get
broken while they're playing. But to just go in and
totally destroy stuff, I've never had that happen.

Speaker 6 (02:27:05):
I had one that went under the deck and was
playing and doing the belly crawl under the deck and
decided he'd sit up put.

Speaker 11 (02:27:10):
His head right up through the bottom of the deck.
Broke a board out of my deck because he put
his head.

Speaker 6 (02:27:15):
Up through it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:16):
Right. That's interesting.

Speaker 11 (02:27:20):
Yeah, I mean, you know, but like I said, they
weren't out there like you know, I'm going to attack
this and destroy it it.

Speaker 6 (02:27:28):
You know.

Speaker 11 (02:27:28):
It wasn't a different than when my kids were growing
up and you know, would be playing and something would
get broken here or there.

Speaker 1 (02:27:36):
Right, you've got about two and a half minutes, Robin, Okay, Yeah,
that's good times.

Speaker 11 (02:27:45):
Yeah, they are, you know, I mean it's just hysterically
you see the thing, the crazy things they do, the
goofy things they do. It's like they climb on my
roof all the time, and the one end of the
house is a very peaked roof, you know, and they're
pushing off with their feet as they're climbing up and
down it and they end up you know, every now.

Speaker 6 (02:28:02):
And then you'll see where.

Speaker 11 (02:28:05):
You know, one of the shingles gets pulled down because
they pushed off of it with their foot. Right, They're
not up there tearing the place apart, but climbing up
and down stuff happens. So now when they get up
there and I hear them, I'm usually the first one
outside going. You will get your hairy tushes off the
roof and you will do it now.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
Right, that's pretty amazing. That's pretty amazing.

Speaker 6 (02:28:32):
Yeah, I mean they're pretty funny.

Speaker 4 (02:28:42):
Check.

Speaker 6 (02:28:43):
They can come up with some crazy stuff, that's for sure.
And they will.

Speaker 11 (02:28:47):
Not quit with the handprints all over my car, Like
I don't know what the obsession with the car is.

Speaker 1 (02:28:54):
Did I send you the photo of my friend that
he sent me about the handprint?

Speaker 6 (02:29:00):
Oh? I don't think you did.

Speaker 1 (02:29:01):
Oh shit, I'm gonna do that right now.

Speaker 6 (02:29:06):
Yeah, it's always amazing to me.

Speaker 11 (02:29:09):
Like I said, they aren't the ones that I've been
fortunate enough to interact with.

Speaker 6 (02:29:14):
I don't have them trying to destroy things.

Speaker 11 (02:29:17):
You know, a little bit of damage here and they're
playing around because they just don't seem to understand their strength.

Speaker 6 (02:29:23):
They just don't. But I don't have anything where they're
like blatantly just trying to tear things apart. Right, Oh
that's a good print.

Speaker 1 (02:29:36):
We'll talk about that here in a minute.

Speaker 6 (02:29:38):
Yeah, nice, Yes, t.

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Robin Haynes. I'm Dave Scott. This is a cryptid Q
and A and we're having some fun here tonight. Before
we get to more audience questions, Robin, I want to
get your opinion on something here.

Speaker 6 (02:31:41):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (02:31:41):
So a friend of mine named Jim came to me
at the hockey arena the other day because our boys
play hockey together, and he's like, Dave, did you get
the picture that I sent you? And I said no,
and he goes, well, let me send it to you.
So for background, Jim is a logging truck driver. He

(02:32:02):
works from about three o'clock in the morning until three
in the afternoon every day and that's what loggers do
around here, and God bless them for it. So when
Jim gets to work around two forty five, three o'clock,
The first thing that he has to do when he
gets to the job site out in the mountains where
it's set, where his semi truck is parked, is he

(02:32:25):
has to do an inspection, make sure everything's running, all
the hoses are not leaking, checks the oil, checks the gas.
And as he was checking the oil, he noticed a
giant handprint on the back of his truck. Now the
handprint is facing down. It looks like it's a right

(02:32:47):
hand that it's pushing down on the equipment. You can
see the palm, you can see the long four fingers.
You can see where the thumb would be in the
thumb actually slipping on it. What do you think of this, Robin?

Speaker 6 (02:33:03):
I love it, and I'll tell you why.

Speaker 11 (02:33:05):
And maybe it's just because I'm looking at it because
you'd sent it to me. Maybe it's the way I'm
looking at it, but it does to me. I agree
with you. It's the right hand. The first thing I notice,
and I see this very commonly with handprints from them,
is where that thumb goes to the first finger, Like
if you open ours up, it's l shaped to a degree.

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But if you notice on this print and on other ones,
and I have a really excellent print of them where
they put it on one of the pillows in my house.
If there's such an open area there, because they can
extend that thumb opened more so than we can. Like
when we do it, it does look like an l
but when they do it, they really can open that

(02:33:46):
spot between that thumb.

Speaker 6 (02:33:48):
And first finger up. It's just it's not we're not
capable of that kind of opening, you know, of the
joints there.

Speaker 11 (02:33:55):
Then you look at the length of the fingers. There's
no way that's one of ours. It is just not possible.

Speaker 6 (02:34:00):
So I love it. I think it's a really, really
good print.

Speaker 11 (02:34:03):
I'm not surprised because I know how they get around
the logging cruise regardless if they're you know, good or bad,
it doesn't matter. That's not anything against your friend. It's
just I know how they get around the logging cruise.
They're very resentful of them. They like to play with
the equipment and mess with it. So I think it's
a really good print. And then when you look over

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where it would be considered like a pinky finger again,
you can see where there's a space almost between the
finger prior to it and then the pinky goes down.
The other thing when you look at fingerprints, and I
don't see it on this one, which is not uncommon.
But if you are able to get dermal ridges on
a fingerprint, if you look at our fingerprints, they're wavier,

(02:34:49):
there's more swirls in it, not even complete circle, but
you know it's swirled. And you can tell our fingerprint
our thumb print when you look.

Speaker 6 (02:34:57):
At a sasquatch.

Speaker 11 (02:35:01):
And again you guys, remember everybody's thumbprints different. It's like
your own signature. But you tend to have more horizontal
dermal ridges. You don't have the circles. You can have
some that are wavy possible, but they're very different than
our type human dermal ridges. So when you look at

(02:35:23):
your handprints and the fingerprints, that's how you're going to
be able to idea, is that one of.

Speaker 6 (02:35:27):
Our people are one of theirs.

Speaker 11 (02:35:30):
As far as I'm concerned, this would definitely be what
I would consider a sasquatch print, just because of the
placement of the fingers, the space between the fingers, and
the length of it.

Speaker 1 (02:35:43):
Now those fingers look to be about four to five
inches long. Now, the reason why I am able to
measure that is for people on radio. You're not going
to see this, but in this photo, what it does
is there's a white sticker on a piece a metal
and that white sticker, according to my friend Jim, is

(02:36:03):
about the size of an iPhone. Okay, So to place
a measurement in there, an iPhone is about two and
a half inches long, right there, it's about two and
a half inches okay, So if you measure that to
the fingers, we're looking at about five four and a

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half to five inch fingers.

Speaker 6 (02:36:31):
We'll also look at the length of the palm. Yes,
going back towards the rest, you know, we have a
shorter range from the middle of our palm to the
bottom of our hand than they do. Theirs is a
lot longer.

Speaker 11 (02:36:46):
I just think there's a lot of points on this
that would make me and does make me lean towards
it being a sasquatch one. Really, I love it. It's
really a good picture, it really is. That turned out fabulous.

Speaker 1 (02:37:02):
All right, Well, let's let's move on here, and I
appreciate getting your opinion on that.

Speaker 6 (02:37:08):
Well, thanks, is Yeah, that was a good picture.

Speaker 1 (02:37:11):
Let's go to Jarence Jarance is asking have you heard
of any sightings of bigfoot reported during the Revolutionary War
or the Civil War by soldiers fighting in the wild
wooded area.

Speaker 11 (02:37:25):
To tell you the exact war that I've heard it on,
I really can't. But I have heard rumors of various wars.
Absolutely absolutely. And the other thing too, is like if
you go to various places where they have like even Gettysburg,
there's reports of seeing them by the grave sites, like
they hang around cemeteries to begin with. But where the

(02:37:47):
wars have been, yeah, yeah, there's been a there's been,
you know, several reports that I've seen, whether I've looked
it up, you know, googled it or whatever, heard somebody
talk about it, and yeah, I mean, we'll look at
even in Vietnam during the Vietnam War, there was sightings
all over the place. Yes, you know, so absolutely, I

(02:38:09):
don't in my personal opinion, I can't imagine that any
there was any war that we've had that they were
not around.

Speaker 6 (02:38:16):
Okay, when you're at war, you have.

Speaker 11 (02:38:18):
All this frequency of people and again, everything's frequency.

Speaker 6 (02:38:21):
I know, I sound like a broken record, but it's
the truth.

Speaker 11 (02:38:24):
And you've got all this frequency that's negative and it's
down because of the fighting and that will anger them,
that will enrage them. They're going to want to know
why because it makes them uncomfortable. So they're going want
to check it out. But when we're fighting, no matter
what the war is, no matter the location, we tend
to forget that they live there too. So, well, we're fighting,

(02:38:46):
we're also I mean not that are What we're doing
is important, but.

Speaker 6 (02:38:49):
It affects them greatly. It's also their land. It's not
just ours.

Speaker 11 (02:38:55):
And so now this is going on in the area
where they have their families and their children. There going
to be around. They're absolutely going to be there. But yeah,
there are different sightings of it.

Speaker 6 (02:39:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:39:08):
Well it's funny that Jaron's asks that because on Lawn
Strickler's fantomsomonsters dot com he actually posted a story about
a Civil War sighting. Oh okay, so I'm going to
read this, okay if you don't mind.

Speaker 6 (02:39:26):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (02:39:30):
Lawn said during March of last year, mister or this
is part of the letter. Okay, let me just get
this straight here because I just pulled this up for
you guys. All right, so this is from a letter
from about oh I think the eighteen hundreds. Okay, yeah,
late eighteen hundreds. In nineteen ninety nine, a collection of

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autographs and old letters was appraised and authenticated for an
estate sale in Hartford, Connecticut. Among the enormous assortment were
of several letters written by Union soldiers during the Civil War.
A few of these letters were penned by Private James
Moore of the Pennsylvania sixty seventh Infantry Regiment Company K.

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The letters were addressed to his wife, Ida in Philadelphia.
One particular letter described an incident with Private More while
he was on guard duty in Harper's Ferry, then part
of Virginia, on February twenty sixth, eighteen sixty three. Some
of the texts had been copied and forwarded to Lawn

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by the appraiser due to its unusual content. Although the
auction catalog contained complete complete text, it was lost in
a two thousand and five fire at the appraiser's home.
Here is one of the excerpts that Lawn had received.
So this excerpt from the lets goes as follows. Ramsey

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and I were tasked with guarding company accouterments along the railway.
On a frigid, still night, the boys started making a
ruckus in the garrison. Some were yelling that a man
beast was on the loose. There was rifle fire directed
towards the river. We continued our duty as the yelling

(02:41:25):
and shots persisted. The corporal questioned the witnesses from the company.
I was told that the creature raided the food stores
after climbing the wall. It was covered in thick layers
of dark hair, maybe eight feet tall from head to toe.
How interesting is that?

Speaker 6 (02:41:45):
I love it? I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:41:48):
Like I said, they there's really there's no place that
they aren't and so like when there's fighting going on,
it's in those situations they're going to send some of
their people there to watch because they're close to their families,
they're close to their children. You know, they're highly protective

(02:42:09):
and they're going to want to know what all the
commotion is. So absolutely I think that they would be there.

Speaker 1 (02:42:15):
Here's some from Confederate encounters. A Tennessee soldier's camp journal
from eighteen sixty two described a hairy giant that howled
like a panther near their picket line along the Cumberland Plateau.
A Virginia rifleman at Galdy Bridge, writing in eighteen sixty one,

(02:42:35):
of the wild man of the woods that stole a
ham from our salter or Sutler, which locals claimed had
been haunted or had been haunting the area for years.
A North Carolina enlisted man's memory recorded in the eighteen
nineties about a mountain wild man that walked on two legs,

(02:42:56):
larger than any bear, that prowled near the wind camp
in the Smokies. And let's see if there's any more here.
A Missouri friedman recalled the hairy giant that lived in
the woods above the river bottom that the soldiers feared
more than the rebels. A Kentucky woman remembered a big,

(02:43:18):
wild hairy man who stole chickens and corn meal during
the wartime years. I mean, there's all sorts of these
little encounters that we don't even think about.

Speaker 11 (02:43:30):
Yeah, yeah, they get involved in everything. They are everywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:43:37):
And a big thank you to Lawn Strickler from phantomsomonsters
dot com for those stories. All right, let's go to
jewels here. She says, I've noticed that you'd often describe
sasquatch in a very childlike way. Do you think they
are or do you think they are intelligent in a
grown up fashion?

Speaker 11 (02:43:57):
I think it's actually a little bit of both, to
be honest with you, they are highly highly intelligent.

Speaker 6 (02:44:02):
They are highly evolved.

Speaker 11 (02:44:04):
People don't realize that they can be the most mature
thing on the planet. But as a higher frequency being,
their emotions run high. If your high frequency, you love deeper,
you get mad, quicker.

Speaker 6 (02:44:18):
You are sadder.

Speaker 11 (02:44:19):
All your emotions are heightened, and when they get to
that level, it can be more childlike. They also don't well,
they have patience to stand behind a tree and not move,
so we don't know they're there, and they will stand
there for hours on end, and they will have the
patience like.

Speaker 6 (02:44:34):
You've never seen.

Speaker 11 (02:44:36):
But yet let them make each other mad, and they
have the quickest temper you've ever seen, just like a toddler.
So I don't believe, you know, the rumors of their
autistic I've seen too much from them. I don't believe
that for a single second. But I do believe, and
I don't believe that they have the mentality of a child.
But some of their actions they actually kind of revert

(02:44:59):
that way. Because they our higher frequency. Their emotions are
so quick, they're so fresh, and they're so heightened that
at times that can behave in that manner.

Speaker 6 (02:45:08):
I had two that got in an absolute.

Speaker 11 (02:45:10):
Fight fight over literally a candy bar, a three inch
little mini candy bar that a friend had sat out
for them, and the one grabbed it and it was
left for the other, and they were going to fight
to the death. I mean, it was just it reminded
me of my boys when they were little, you know,
and then other times they are so much more mature

(02:45:32):
than even our people would be. So it really depends
on the situation and the emotion involved within that situation.

Speaker 1 (02:45:43):
I believe they are a very intelligent creature. I don't
know if they're of human capability of understanding like lang. Like.
We know they have their own language. We know that
they have. You know, some of them apparently have the
ability to create fire. They're not very advanced in.

Speaker 6 (02:46:05):
Not in our ways. They have.

Speaker 11 (02:46:07):
It's a cultural thing in their culture. They are more
advanced and skilled in some things than we are as
far as working as one, like with the law of
raw through the collective consciousness, through the higher frequencies. We
are idiots compared to them. And I don't mean that disrespectfully,
it's just the truth. In other ways, like if you

(02:46:28):
go by the things in our culture. They're more uncivilized
because it's a cultural thing. It's the world that they
live in opposed to the world that we live in.
You know, we can't go step into their world and
keep up with what they do and what they know
about the quantum physics, about you know, the frequencies and
using the energies and using the paranormal and thought processing

(02:46:52):
and you know, how they figure everything out.

Speaker 6 (02:46:54):
The way they do.

Speaker 11 (02:46:55):
But then if they were to have to focus and
step into our world and live by our rules, they
would slack as well. Because it is a cultural problem.
Our words don't mean the same as theirs. They do
not have a clear understanding why we do the things
that we do. But in the same regard, we get
mad at them for things that makes perfect sense to

(02:47:17):
their culture, but it makes no sense to ours.

Speaker 6 (02:47:20):
So it really does.

Speaker 11 (02:47:21):
Come out down to that huge cultural difference. Like if
you were to go right now and fly to Japan
or fly to Africa, you're not going to understand that culture.
You could get yourself in all kinds of trouble because
you have no idea how you're supposed to behave, what
you're supposed to say what you're supposed to do, and
their language isn't going to make any sense to you

(02:47:42):
unless you've already been trained in it, and the same
thing if.

Speaker 6 (02:47:46):
They were to come here.

Speaker 11 (02:47:48):
It all comes down to that cultural background, what their
world has made up with, what it encompasses, what they're taught,
how they're supposed to react to it.

Speaker 6 (02:47:56):
It is very different than ours.

Speaker 11 (02:47:58):
Yes, they are part here human, they are ancestors, but
the dynamics of the world that they've created for themselves
and the dynamics of what we've created for ourselves are
completely different. I can't tell you how many times I
have to explain, well, we do this because of this,
and then they'll tell me, no, your people, you know,

(02:48:20):
you're people, silly, you should we do this for this reason.
I'm like, okay, I wouldn't have thought about it that way,
but okay. So it just comes down to that cultural difference,
and you'll find that with Sasquatch in different parts of
the country as well, and different parts of the world.

Speaker 1 (02:48:37):
It make how different though, three minutes to go, How
different though are the Sasquatch cultures? Because you know, we've
talked a little bit about this before, but since we're
in the conversation. You know, the ones of the Pacific Northwest,
going up north towards Alaska, they seem to be a
lot more docile. They seem to be maybe a little territorial,

(02:48:59):
but you don't really have to fear them, you know
what I'm saying. Whereas you look at the the boogers,
you look at the swamp monsters in Louisiana, you look
at the at the Florida skuncate, all these ones seem
to be a lot more aggressive and a lot less
you know, patient for humans.

Speaker 11 (02:49:19):
Yeah, it's their culture, it's what their exposure is, It's
what the people in those areas. How are they treated
by those people? Are they in more of a fearful
situation like you go to Alaska. In some parts of
Alaska because it's so open, they're fine because they have
enough space where they can get away from you. But
are other places in Alaska that they are literally lethal,

(02:49:41):
like lethal.

Speaker 6 (02:49:42):
I know several people.

Speaker 11 (02:49:44):
That are in Alaska that have dealt with some of
these ones that are so highly aggressive that they were
lucky they got out with their life. In fact, one
person didn't survive it. But then there's pockets of the
good ones. It depends on their living situation. When you
get down like you know, Florida's, they're a little bit
more uncivilized. You know, you get in some of these

(02:50:05):
southern states, they are more uncivilized. Now, the ones where
I'm at right now in the South, they're pretty mellow.

Speaker 6 (02:50:13):
I don't have any issues with them.

Speaker 11 (02:50:15):
They come right up in the backyard, you know, they interact.
They've interacted with my neighbor, myself, and they up and
down the road. I've not had issues with them. But
you can go to certain spots and because of the
living situation around the exposure to what's around them, our
type of humans around them, and whether or not they

(02:50:38):
are the higher frequency ones obviously have a lot more
intelligence to them, more rationalization to them. It justice depends
on that exposure and what they're dealing with. You know,
are this is this a group that just wants to
be left alone. They don't want you near them, and
they will do whatever they have or whatever they can

(02:51:00):
to be alone.

Speaker 6 (02:51:01):
But you're right, there are.

Speaker 11 (02:51:02):
Some pockets that they're just seem fine and you're not
going to have any problems.

Speaker 6 (02:51:05):
And then you can go to other areas and it's
just pure aggression.

Speaker 1 (02:51:10):
Robin. Really about a minute to go with you tonight,
and it's always a pleasure to have you on Spaced
Out Radio hanging out with us with your incredible knowledge
on the Sasquatch and other cryptids. Tell everybody where your
website is and how they can get a hold of you.

Speaker 11 (02:51:27):
Sure, if you want to book any of my services,
you can go to www dot Paranormal Dashempowerment dot com.
If you just have a question or whatever, you can
find me on Facebook under Robin Haynes's no middle initial,
and you can reach me that way. I answer everybody,
So I'm really not hard to get hold of.

Speaker 1 (02:51:45):
Yeah, You're pretty good that way.

Speaker 11 (02:51:47):
Yeah, I get you know, I get people off the
show that contact me with questions, and I'm more than
happy to I mean, they're wonderful people.

Speaker 1 (02:51:53):
I love it when our audience does that. Robin, you
have yourself an amazing, amazing night, and thank you, thank
you for always speaking.

Speaker 9 (02:52:01):
I like show.

Speaker 5 (02:52:04):
You.

Speaker 1 (02:52:04):
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