Nov. 20/25 - It's All Alchemical with Angela Dione Anderson - Spaced Out Radio

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into the consciousness angle and figure out what our alchemical
engineering is all about. Angela Dioni Anderson will be here
momentarily to break it all down for us. Then in
our number three swamp Dweller, we'll kick things off. We'll
follow that up with the Wizard Josh Rutledge with an

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exciting UFO report. So let's get right to it, shall we.
Angela Dione Anderson is a renowned spiritual channel and ascension
guide who embodies divine light and higher consciousness. Known as
the Woman of Light, Angela radiates a deeply transformative presence
that supports personal and collective awakening. Through her intuitive gifts,

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including vocal light, language, quantum sound transmissions, and sacred frequencies,
she helps dissolve energetic blocks, restore balance, and align individuals
with their true soul purpose. Yeah, we had a good
meditation session right before the show too. As a facilitator
of the spiritual awakening, Angela blends a power of sound, healing,

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intuitive guidance, and sacred embodiment to activate higher awareness and
accelerate ascension. Her offerings, ranging from guided activations and group
workshops to self paced experiences, invite seekers to reconnect with
source consciousness and embody their highest potential. Now, if you

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want to check her on out, which I highly suggest,
you do. You can find her at Angela Dione Anderson
dot com her YouTube channel Angelette Dione dioni spelled d
io n e Anderson, So make sure you check it
on out hit subscribe, ring that bell when you're there, Angela,
Welcome to spaced Out Radio for the first time. How

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are you.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I am doing so well. I'm so excited.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
You guys are so cronkd I'm excited to get going tonight.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I'm excited to and I'm just gonna I'm just gonna
say it. I'm gonna say it. I'm a little smitten
right now. That beautiful smile, Okay, that beautiful smile, that
energetic purpose that you have. How did you find yourself?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Oh my god, it's been such a journey. It's been
such a journey. I have always kind of tapped in
a little bit, but like most kids I had that,
I suppressed it to a degree because I didn't have
that external validation in the form of somebody who was
living that life, walking the path.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
So I held it in.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
But like these things go, you can try to hold
it in, but you know.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's always there in the background.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
So yeah, I lived my life that way for a
while go ahead.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
When you were younger, ye, were you in touch with
your intuitive side? Did you know that there was something
different or did you have to build on it?

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well? I knew there was something there.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
I would see things and I have experiences, but I
would share those with my mother or my dad, well
not really my dad, but more so my mother, but
I never got those validated. So I kind of connected
the dots that everybody was in perceiving life the same
way that I was at the time.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
So was anybody else in your family intuitive, mother, grandmother,
family members.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I came to realize that after the fact, like in
my adult life, but as a kid, I know there
was nobody that I was aware of who was walking
that path.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
So basically, God source gave you this weird energy that
you needed to figure out and find your own path.
I mean, when did that start for you? When did
you start realizing that this was a journey that you
had to embark on.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Okay, So there were many things that happened, and it
was really a progressive thing.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
It wasn't an all in one.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Lightning strike moment where I came to realization of myself.
It was progressive over time. So there were small things
that would happen. So it began like this. I was
very small, maybe about two or three, sitting on the
bed and my mother was talking to my dad.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
My dad was in the shower, and I'm sitting there just.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Watching the room, and in the hallway I can see
a shadow man walk down the hallway, turn and look
in my mother's room at me. And I tried to
give my mother's attention to look at him, to acknowledge him,
but she would never turn around.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
She would never turn around, and the very moment that she.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Decided to look, he walked down the hallway and merged
into the shadows in the darkened hallway.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
That was one situation.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
And then years later, my mother and my father had
gotten divorced by this time, and I spent a very
a lot of time alone. And so I was outside
feeding the dog. Went to feed the dog, and I
reached down to turn the water spigot on to give
the dog water, and as I reached down, there was

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a snake coiled up ready to strike, mouth wide open,
and all I saw was teeth.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
And so.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
In that moment, I heard a voice speak, and that
voice said, don't run, just turn and walk away. And
I didn't question it. There was like this haze, this
sparkly haze that appeared all of a sudden. I didn't panic.
I turned and I walked calmly away, went in the
house and called my mom and told her what was

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outside when she got home, because she rushed right home
when she got home. Went out in the backyard, and
by this time, the dog had killed the snake that
was there. But I went inside and I questioned, why
wasn't not bitten? Because I was so close. I was
within an inch of this snake and he didn't bite me.

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It was like every it was like time stopped. Everything
stood still, nothing moved, But I questioned, why wasn't bitten.
From that point, I started to realize that there was
something else going on, and there was some voice that
I needed to listen to, that I needed to take
heed of, that was protecting me. Also, that was gotting

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me and protected me. And over the course of my life,
the events that occurred were more and more significant.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, more and more significant.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I had to learn the hard way about that voice. Yeah,
I was almost killed. So I wanted to go ATVing
with my buddies, and my buddy, who I usually rode with.
He couldn't go that day. So I had some other
guys that I had ridden with before that were like,

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come on, we're gonna go try these brand new trails,
and I was like, yeah, I'm all pumped up, waited
for the snow to melt, you know, all winter long
it's it's a beautiful spring day in March. And the
entire drive up there in twenty thirteen, I kept hearing
this voice, don't go today, turn around, go home. Today
is not a good day for riding, and I just

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went no, Uh, I'm I'm going. You know why, having
this voice totally tuned it out, getting angry over it,
to be honest with you. Fifteen minutes into the ride,
at about four or five miles an hour, my front
wheel and my ATV hit a rock. I've gone over

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rocks like that with no problem whatsoever. My ATV. It
bounced my tires and I went into a washout on
this hill and I flipped off my ATV, fell, my
ATV rolled over top of me and rolled two hundred
and fifty feet down an embankment.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I have trusted that voice ever since. Oh yeah, that
was a hard lesson that cost me about twelve thousand
dollars that lesson because my ATV was destroyed.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Wow yes, wow, wow significant. You know that voice is
that voice is amazing because you know, through all of
those events that would happen, I never questioned the voice.
I never questioned I never said, well who is this voice?
Or why should I listen to this voice? There was
this internal knowing. I see that in hindsight in retrospect

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that I always listened to that voice.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I always took heed of that voice. And just like
you that voice.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Listening to that voice, learning to trust it was the
thing that saved my life because I could have checked
out many times. And I think the situations that I
encountered were exit points.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
They could have been exit points.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
It was like trust or die, Like trust or die,
fall down the stairs, trust or die, Trust or die.
Every situation was one of those situations where if I
hadn't trusted the voice, I wouldn't be sitting here right now.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
No, I totally agree with you. For people who may
not understand that voice, what is that voice? We're talking about?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
That voice? Oh, people perceive it in many ways. The
way I perceive it is it is the true me.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
It is a true essence of me.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
It is the divine, the divine aspect of me linked
to source what some people call God. It's that that
internal voice that steals small voices. People term it that
internal knowing, internal knowing.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, I perceive it as almost like that angelic voice
of reason, that that one that keeps you on the
straight path, the straight and narrow path, and if you
pay attention to it, it never goes wrong, it will
never steer you the wrong way. I call it the
soul voice.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, exactly, the soul, that aspect, the aspect of the divine.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
From my perspective, it's all one thing.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
It's all linked to the universal consciousness and the universal source,
the fabric of creation. It's all as I perceive it.
It is all one thing focused into unique, unique expressions
that present as physical form.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
As you continue on your journey here, have you developed
your your own interpersonal intuition, whether it's your players or
your psychic ability to have mediumship or connection to the
other side.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
I would say it's always there. There, there is from
my perspective, it's no distance. Everything from my perspective, as
far as I am, how I am embodied. Now, everything
is fully online, fully realized, like I am all here
from a soul perspective, I am literally so animating for Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
So when you're on, do you have the ability to
shut it off?

Speaker 4 (14:09):
I wouldn't shut it off. I have no desire to
shut it off, like I can. I can, I can
shut it off. Let's let's see.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Let's let's let's just say this. Let's say you know,
I'm going to give you an example here. Let's say
you're you're going on out on the town with your friends,
and you want to have a nice bath and and
get yourself ready before going out. I mean, the last
thing you want is, you know, Joe Smith coming up

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to you and say, hey, beautiful Angela, how you doing tonight?
What are you up to? In spirit world? It's going
to be a little awkward.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
I you know, from my the way I perceive it is,
or the way it works for me, is that the
divine Me knows, so I don't have to coordinate a
whole lot of things. I am fully surrendered to the
divine Me, and I know that that aspect of me.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
As me.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Is orchestrating things and the way that work best for me.
So I am fully surrendered to that, and by virtue
of that things show up as in perfect timing, in
divine timing, I don't have to coordinate anything from this
human identity self.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
So when that happens, do you immediately go into your
spiritual form then and start connecting with who's trying to
connect with you?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
So there is no need to connect.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
I'm always connected, like I'm never not, I'm never.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Knowet don't you have? I guess what I'm saying is
a lot of psychic people that I know and high
intitutive people, they have boundaries around them. They're like, look,
when I'm sleeping, don't bug me. When I'm in the shower,
don't bug me. You know, if I'm out with friends,

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don't bug me. They have these these almost like these
spiritual barricades around them. That way they can have some
peace while they're doing living life. Shall shall we say?

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, for me, it's a little bit different. It's for me,
it's a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
And and and they're like right here, so my body
responds when the when the when I have a presence present, well,
for me, there is no disconnect for me, there is
no need to.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Establish a boundary.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
We are fully present as the feel, animating, the feel creating,
the field, the instrument through which the divine moves, live, breathes,
So there is no there's no necessity for a boundary
in those terms. Fully surrendered from my perspective is fully

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surrendered being. I am fully surrendered to being that soul
in form. So I don't do a lot of setting
boundaries from that perspective because everything that comes is meeting
me in perfect divine timing, perfectly aligned timing.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
So our radio audience won't be able to see this
unless they watch on YouTube. But yeah, I can see you,
and I notice you keep looking over your right shoulders.
So I'm going to ask you who's there.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
That I don't have a name.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I don't have a name, but I have many streams
of consciousness.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I'll say it like this.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
We are antennas, we are always receiving and perceiving information,
and so I feel a stream of information, a stream
of energy, a stream of consciousness. Here I don't personify that.
I don't have a necessity to personify that. I just
receive it as information from the field, and so, as

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is common, cannot feel into it. I can feel it physically,
and I can feel it intuitively. It's a sense a knowing.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, is it divine masculine or divine feminine energy around
you right now?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
It's not not gendered, not gendered in that way.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, it's though it toticking it up. I'm totally picking
it up right now. I will say this, this is
what I got from it, because sometimes my intuition kicks in.
I have a very handsome black man wearing a white

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T shirt with a very thin beard. He's about between
five eleven and six one okay, and he's I'm getting
a right side profile. He's wearing a white T shirt
and blue jeans, and he's staring it down at you
with a giant smile on his face.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Wow, handsome man, very hand.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
That funny, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, does that resonate?

Speaker 4 (19:41):
I don't typically, I don't typically personify the energies that
I feel and perceive.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
But does that resonate so that way? I don't look
like a fool after just saying that on the radio.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Well, I don't see it that way again, and I
perceive it as energy like I perceive it as energy,
I don't typically project into forms.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
If that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, makes total sense. Yeah, makes total sense either way.
Handsome dude, Yeah, I will say that, handsome good energy.
I want to know, as we got about three and
a half minutes before going to break Angela, I want
to know how much you enjoy doing what you're doing,

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because the positivity that comes off your energy just speaking
to you is very powerful. It's very you know, like
I want to grasp that. I want to I want
You've got my attention, You've caught my my intrigue up.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, it's a great place to be.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Like I'm fully like fully surrendered into being existing as me,
the true me.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
So there is no.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
There, I don't no need for anything else, Like there's
that's that's bliss, that's the the pure positive energy that
you are. That's the true essence of you. So I'm
fully connected in that in that space.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
So I enjoy being.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
I enjoy being all of me, the fullness of me.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yes, what is the fun part of your being? Is it?
Is it dealing with people? Is it dealing with spirit?
Is it connecting the two or allowing somebody the ability
or I guess you're not allowing helping somebody with the
ability to find their own path. What is the high

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of highs for you?

Speaker 4 (21:55):
The high of highs for me is fulfilling that purpose
of being the channel by which through which the divine
flows and illumines the field, illumines all of creation, So
that which is unconscious, bringing awareness to that which is unconscious.

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I think that's the task that we have now. We
are on the leading edge. I had this thought earlier today.
We are on the leading edge. Abraham says that through
Esra Hicks all the time, we are on the lead,
leading edge of creation.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
And from my.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Perspective, that's not necessarily related to physical form or being
in physical form. What that means from my perspective is
bringing the unconscious into fully conscious awareness. That's the path,
that's the ascension journey. That's a transition that we're all
going through right now.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
So for me, that is the sweet spot. Allowing what desires.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
To be expressed to throw through, to flow through this
instrument as vessel and whatevery way it needs to within
the moment. That means being fully present seed it rooted,
grounded within the present moment, bringing all of me, the being,
this that presents as me, to this single point of

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focus and allowing that essence that moves through this vessel
to radiate and impact the field, to spark awareness, to
enlivened hearts, to bring energy, divine energy to the to
what presents to all that might have the opportunity to

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be in receipt. Because in doing so, are you reminded
of your truth? It allows everything and everyone to reconnect
with the true essence of self.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
So that is a great answer, a great answer, and
you know, it makes me wonder, you know, as we
get ready to go to break here, you know, what
is our what is our own personal spiritual truth? Because
I think you know, when you live life in a
nine to five or twenty four seven like most people do, now,

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the spiritual side seems to take you know, take the
seat to the left, like you go over there. I
got too much going on on this side, you know.
And we're going to get to that. What is spiritual truth?
Next on spaced Out Radio as we have a fantastic
guest tonight, Angela Dione Anderson, her website, Angela Dione Anderson

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dot com. The Alchemical Engineer is with us on spaced
Out Radio. Stay tuned, everybody, All right, now we are clear.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I was.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
And I told you. I told you nice, all right,
I just have to make a comment to my listeners here,

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excuse me. In a YouTube sometimes YouTube will take your
channel and they will not promote it or push it anymore.
So what happens is when you are going through that
process like we are and many other UFO Bigfoot Paranormal

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channels are at this time, what happens is your numbers
and your watch time start going down. So it's called
being shadow band that they are pushing other subjects and
other connections rather than your own. Now, I talked to
a few friends of mine about this just the other day,

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and the way you have to beat it is audience
participation along with putting up other types of videos, which
we're trying to do at this time, and we will
be doing a little bit more of it here soon.
Hi Paul Nicholas, if you use at A yeah, So
with that, your help in helping us get out of

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that shadow band is to make sure that you interact
with us a little bit more in the community section
in the chat room, leaving comments, which you guys awesomely
do every night, along with after the show leave a comment.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
On the.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Show. If you don't mind take that thirty five forty
seconds to say, hey, that was a great show or whatever.
Just leave those comments that will help us get out
of the band and it'll take a couple of months
to do it, hopefully. But yeah, YouTube has been on
a lack of a better term, a war path for

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subjects like UFOs, consciousness, paranormal cryptids. We're all being hit
and pushed down the ladder right now on trying to
get the message out. So the only channels that are
not being hit hard by that are those who have

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multi at least a million, half a million to a
million type subscribers. Yeah, so basically what YouTube is doing
for a lot of the subjects from what I've learned,
YouTube don't hit me on the algorithms for this when
I say this, but from what I've learned, what they're

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doing is they are really having a push over the
last number of months trying to promote the bigger channels
that are out there, the multi million subscriber channels, and
pushing the little guys like us and many others that
are bigger and smaller than us kind of to the wayside.

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I'm having to do a hardcore deep dive into how
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year old son could figure it out easier than I can. Vanessa,
How are you beautiful? All right? Kurt M or Kurt W.

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Seventy five? I heard it might be your birthday, so
happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday,
Kurt W. Happy birthday to you. There you go, blow

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Here we go with the second half hour of Spaced
Out Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott. We're having
a great show learning about our zen archie, our consciousness
and how we can become a darn good being in
the soul region, in the heart region, in the mind
and body region as well. Lord knows my body needs

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some help. My name is Dave Scott. Our guest is
is Angela Dioni Anderson. Her website. Let's bring that up,
Angeladioni Anderson dot com. She is and I love this title.
And maybe she doesn't title herself this, but I'm gonna
say it. She's the Alchemical Engineer. I love that. I
bet you that comes with a nice hat to wear

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with a logo this is al Chemical Engineer. And if
you don't have that one, put it on your store. Angela,
thank you for coming on in.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Oh yeah, absolutely all right, thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Let's get to the soul, man, Let's get there. Let's
get to the soul. What's it all about. Who's running
the ship.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Well, the soul is supposed to be running the ship.
The issue with humanity is that more often than not,
the personality or the ego self is running the show.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
So there's a misalignment.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
From that perspective, we are souls having a human experience,
and so it's the proper alignment is for the identity
to surrender in alignment with the soul, allow itself to
be guided. This is why I said earlier that there
is no need for me to orchestrate from my perspective,

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because being a fully aligned, fully realized being in form,
I am fully surrendered to that soul essence of self,
and so the path is already known on a soul level,
and so all I have to do from an identity
perspective is surrender fully to the now. And with humanity,

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most people get caught up thinking about the past, worrying
about the future, what will come, what will I say next,
rather than being fully surrendered and allowing the self to
serve as fully open instrument, fully open conduit, permitting everything
that desires to be expressed to simply flow, to simply flow.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I understand the ego part of it. Yes, I think
all of us are egotistical in a way, you know,
and we've pushed our soul to the side, that soul voice,
that soul energy, you know, because life is hard and
what you're trying to diversify yourself and put yourself into

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running a marathon every day. Mentally, you don't have time
to figure yourself out spiritually. Most people can't find three
minutes in the day, let alone half an hour in
a day to sit back and meditate and breathe in
what life is supposed to be. Life is hectic, Life
can suck, you know, it's it's difficult when you have

(33:54):
people who you know are working their butts off just
to live, never mind have aation or a night out
with friends or even a beer with your buddy. Okay, like,
life over the last ten years has become extremely vigilant.
It's become extremely difficult financially, emotionally, and we've pushed the

(34:18):
spiritual side away in order to just try and think,
this is how we survive. How do we reconnect to
slow our mind down from what is going on daily
minute by minute to say, hey, spirit, hay, soul, come
talk to me. Let's have a few moments together.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Right.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
That is the challenge of the moment, and I will
not minimize the.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Difficulty of life.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Life is as it is, but there is another way,
and it doesn't have to be as hard card as
we sometimes can perceive it to be.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
This life thing is a bit of.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
An extreme game, like a game on steroids, where wherein
we have the ability to create. But the issue with
creation is that we create and we get lost in
our creations. We get lost in the illusion of the

(35:27):
creations that we create, and so in order to come
out of that, we have to take a moment to
breathe and realize that life will pull you into its
loops and patterns. But the only way to break that

(35:47):
is to allow yourself to entertain a new possibility, and
that comes by way of those of us who are
awakened sharing in platforms like this, sharing openly without concern
for what people will think, right, having the courage to

(36:08):
speak you of truth from a place of authenticity. As
people have a willingness to open and receipt of hearing
that word, do they allow themselves to entertain a new possibility.
And in entertaining a new possibility, you allow yourself a

(36:31):
moment to pause and self reflect. And it's only through
that self reflection that you begin to self assess and
see and begin to question life, question life and all
that it presents. So now he's here. Here are the
things to realize. I had somebody drop this in my

(36:54):
bucket early on, and these are the things that stuck.
And we make life so difficut well, because we think
from a human perspective that there's always a necessity to
do something. But we are here to be. We are beings,
beings simply be learned to be. So how do you

(37:15):
do that? Is well, it's really simple. You have to
understand the truth of who and what you are. And
you are more than a physical form. You are consciousness, energy,
consciousness animating earth. The form is earth. You are the
divine animating earth. First, next, you have to realize that

(37:41):
life is not happening to you as much as it
is happening because of you, and as a hard feel
to swallow, but it's the absolute truth because life is
experienced from the inside out. Life is experiences from the
inside out. Life is a projection of the self. And

(38:08):
so as you allow yourself to know that life is
reflective of the energy of the energetic resonance that you carry,
then you can recognize the power that you truly hold
to shift your reality by virtue of your thoughts. Your

(38:29):
thoughts are directly linked to your energetic frequency, So it's
the way you feel about what is happening in the
external that kind of drives the cycle of what you
feel on the internal. When you recognize that that alone,
then you have the ability to self assess those feelings

(38:53):
and ask, what is it that I want to create?
Or why is it that I'm witnessing? What it is
that I'm seeing? If I am a divine be an
animating form, and I am the creator or the projector
projecting the reality that I am witnessing or experiencing, then

(39:15):
what is this showing me about me? What belief am
I holding about myself that is not true? Because everything
that is not true from a soul perspective, you experience
it as discontent, disease, discord. So as you allow yourself

(39:35):
to know that, then you can take the reins a
little bit and say, Okay, I need to level set
my own internal beliefs and assessing those internal beliefs. Assessing
those internal beliefs, you have to go back, or you

(39:56):
go back, end up going back or connecting with the
source of those beliefs, where did I pick this thing up?
And reframing that belief so that you can walk forward
in truth. Only by virtue of reframing the limiting beliefs
that are held, do you render a new projection to

(40:18):
experience in this life.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
So it's really.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Getting down to knowing who you are? Do you know
who you are? Because you're not the persona, You're not
the ego. You're not the persona that you put on
like a jacket in order to fit in with the world. Right,
We're not here to fit in with the world. We're
here as unique expressions of Source. And the reason we're

(40:44):
here as unique expressions of Source is because the Source
wants to discover all.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
That it might become. We are the leading edge of thought.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
We are the manifestations, the physical manifestations of source consciousness
determining what it can become by learning to manipulate energy
in form to create and discover. Everything we do is
a learning experience. Everything that you witness within the world

(41:16):
is a key to bring you into greater awareness of self.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Greater awareness of self.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Okay, I love what you're saying, but can I please
throw a caveat in there, yep, okay, because I never
get to use the word caveat very often, and so
I figured it was the perfect time. So that's what
I'm going to do. And my caveat to. This is
life for a lot of people. And I don't mean

(41:42):
to bring the energy down, but life for people is
very difficult right now. They're worried about paying their bills,
getting food on the table. Doesn't matter where you stand politically.
People are so much more emotional about politics now, emotional
about what's happening in the world, whether it's it's the

(42:04):
war between Russia Ukraine, or or Israel Gaza or the
Middle East. They're worried about children's education, they're worried about,
you know, violence and everything. And this keeps being compounded
by mainstream media, by social media, fake news all over
the place. And it's not just the six o'clock evening newspeople.

(42:27):
It is social media putting out a bunch of this.
And everything is about feelings. Now, how do you feel
about this? Because feelings has become a multi billion dollar corporation.
The word, you know, somebody's feelings. So when you say
about feelings that we have to get back to our feelings.

(42:48):
How do we do that when the world has taken
advantage of those feelings?

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Okay, so then that's where your you mentioned boundaries earlier.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
But so so here's the thing we think collectively.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
The thought is that if it presents, it's something I
need to engage with. Right, if I see it, I
got to engage with that thing.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Right.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Really, you you are always choosing, so get You get
to choose where you lend your energy by virtue of
your focus. Right, So you have to you have to
come home to self and be intentional about where you
allow your energy to be placed. Because the moment you

(43:46):
place your energy in a specific place, then you pull
yourself into that thing, and whether it's good or bad,
whether it incites joy or fear, you are pulling yourself
by virtue of your focus. So you have to be
intentional about your time and your energy.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
And your focus, the focus of your attention.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Everybody has a sandbox, and there are some people who
have big sandboxes and they want to pull everybody into
their sandbox so they can dominate that sandbox. Right, But
by virtue of your attention, you can pull back your
attention and say, you know what, I'm not gonna lend

(44:30):
my energy to that sandbox. I'm gonna stay over here
and play in my sandbox. I see that sandbox over there,
but it's not doing what I wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
I don't I don't.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
I don't enjoy what they got going on over there
in that sandbox. So I'm not gonna play in that sandbox,
and I'm gonna bring bring myself home to self, bring
my energy home to self. You have to consciously curate
this is what I'm hearing, consciously curate your experience. So
you have to be intentional about choosing where you lend

(45:01):
your energy. If watching the news doesn't bring you good feelings,
don't watch the news. If looking at what's going on
over here, I send it love. I send it all
that I can light to help lift that particular area,
because I know consciously I have the power to affect

(45:22):
change by virtue of my consciousness. If I'm sending love
to it to lift it, but I don't have to
let it bring me down. You have to be intentional
about where you place your focus in how you lend
your energy to things like That's the simplest way I
can state that everybody has a sandboss. Everybody is sovereign.

(45:45):
Everybody is choosing. Whether you are conscious about your choices
or not, you are always choosing, So choose with intention.
You have to come home, to come home to self,
and there's nobody who can make you do it. It's
a personal thing. That is the personal work of getting

(46:05):
to know the self, coming home and getting to know
the true self.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Love that idea. I absolutely love the idea of finding
your true self. And you're right. You have to turn
the television off. You have to turn the news stations off.
You have to be able to walk away from social media.
You don't need to be checking Facebook or Instagram or
x every ten minutes to see if somebody's liked your

(46:34):
profile or liked your post, or or what's happening in
the news, because it is mind numbing and draining and
takes you into a dark place within yourself. If you're
not seeing what you want to see.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, you know, I think that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
Though it depends on what you're looking for, right because
if you're looking for something bad, if you're looking for
or all the fear of what's going on over here,
because there's something bad going on over here, and everything
is horrible and all of these things. If you're looking
for that, you're gonna find more of that, right by
virtue of looking for that.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
That's your intention. You're looking for that.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
But you can scroll social media if you're looking for
evidence of change. This is how I use social media.
I'm looking for evidence of light permeating places, beginning to
permeate places that it hasn't permeated before. Right, you're looking
for positive change, So you can look, you can scroll

(47:37):
social media. But it's all about your intention and what
you are seeking to find. Because whatever you are seeking
to find, you will find more of that.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
That's how this creation works.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
What I will to create, what I will to find
is is gonna find me.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Because I'm looking for that thing.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
I'm going to get more of it because I'm lending
my attention, my energy to that particular thing that I'm
looking for.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
I think that is absolutely wonderful, absolutely wonderful. And as
we turned that corner and realize that we do have
the power to regain control of our mind, body, and soul.
When we start that process, how does the body start
to transform?

Speaker 4 (48:21):
It transforms in miraculous ways, like I can tell you,
so here's here's a great example. Great example for myself
when when when we had the pandemic COVID and we
had to everybody was in the lockdowns, and I was
I had to work from home, and I had never
wanted to work from home. I was a software engineer

(48:43):
by trade, and I was working from home. The kids
and everybody was so loud. But I in my younger years,
in my college years, I was a certified personal trainer,
so I was regimented about my workouts. I always had
to work out, lift weights, all these things. But when
that pandemic came, I just needed time to get away.

(49:05):
I needed silence, that quiet time to myself. So I
would get outside and go for walks. And at this
time I might have been I had had the two kids,
so I was like maybe twenty pounds overweight, or twenty
pounds heavier than I had ever been in my life.
But I would get outside to go for these really
slow walks, and I started to just connect with nature.

(49:29):
And over time I would take a moment to sit
in the center of this field in this park, and
I started to meditate. I would take my long, slow walk,
and at the end of that walk, I would sit
in the middle of that field and just meditate, and
over time I noticed that I started to lose weight.

(49:51):
Not only was I hearing from Guy, and I was
starting to reconnect myself with nature and started to open,
like really open up up.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
But my body.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Started to reflect these changes that I had been trying
to force on it through working out and lifting weights.
My body began to recalibrate. My body began to rebalance itself.
Every aspect of me began to neutralize itself, and all
the weight that I had tried to lose the previous

(50:24):
ten years kind of melted in about.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Six months from I went from a.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Size fourteen to about a size six, not working out,
but just taking these really slow walks around the park,
taking time to meditate, reconnecting with my body, allowing my
body to rebalance itself, allowing my nervous system to rebalance itself,
and physically, my body shifted like shifted it had.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
I can't even I wish I.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Had pictures to show you right now, but I went
that change was immediate. So there is a recalibration that
happens when you surrender to you, when you surrender in
greater degree to you, everything changes, your health can change.
Everything comes back into balance, and really ill health, all

(51:17):
ill health is is imbalanced. So if you learn how
to rebalance the body, well, I won't even say learn
how to rebalance, I will say surrender to the balance
that already is. Your body will begin to reflect that change.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
How spiritually cleansing is it when you make that decision.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
It's everything, It's it's everything.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
There is no word in any language that I know
that accurately describe what that is, what that feels like.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Freedom, That's what I heard. Freedom.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
It's liberation from all the things. It's liberation from opinions.
It's liberation from feeling as if, it's liberation from obligation.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
It's liberation from.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
All the roles, every definition you've attached to a role.
It's liberation from all of That is the freedom to
simply exist fully present within the now divine presence, bringing
all of you front and center here in this moment,

(52:47):
not worrying about what I'm going to say next or
how I'm going to articulate that, just literally being in
a flow state and allowing the Divine to move through you.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
We have a minute to go here before we have
to go to break at the top of the hour,
and our beautiful guest tonight is Angela Dioni Anderson throw
a dot com on the back of that, you have
our website. The body is very good at healing itself,
you know. Example, a smoker, if you quit within just

(53:24):
a few months, you will have Your lungs will repair themselves.
Your liver can repair itself if it's not to damage.
There's a lot of body parts that could rejuvenate itself.
Too bad it was in my eyes and ears, because
Lord knows I hate wearing glasses and I hate the
tenatus in my ears, you know. But we are very

(53:45):
good at regenerating for ourselves. As we go forward and
we're cleansing the body through a spiritual cosmic path, do
we have that ability to keep it going because it
is retraining the mind, is it not?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:07):
I would I would say, not necessarily retraining the mind,
but surrendering. Surrendering the mind, I think at some point though,
it becomes second nature, right, as you begin to surrender.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
More and more to the truth of you.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
It becomes it becomes it's not even a thought, It's
not even something I have to do, right, It's literally
settling into simply being.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
It becomes routine, and we're gonna have another great hour.
Can't believe one hour is done already. Angela Dione Anderson
is our guest. Angela d'oni anderson dot com is your website,
enter YouTube channel name, go check it on out.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
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Speaker 1 (55:08):
All Right, we are clear, Angela. I'm gonna just gonna
put you in the green room for a couple of minutes.
I'm just gonna take a quick break.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Okay, nice, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Be right back. Don't you just love her? She's amazing,
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Speaker 8 (55:23):
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Speaker 5 (58:09):
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She is a lovely soul who is trying to help
people find their better part of their life, bring back
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(01:02:51):
of life, and start living and breathing again. I think
we could all use a little bit of that. Angela
Dione dio n e. Anderson dot Com is her website.
Her YouTube channel is the same name, Angela. Thank you
for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Thank you for having me, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Now, didn't that first hour go really fast?

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I did?

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Your laugh is so infectious. What is an alchemical engineer?

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Okay, so I I told you I was a soft
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I was a software engineer.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
By trade right for almost twenty years, and what I
realized is I have the ability to create. I create
with multiple mediums. I'm I'm an artist at heart. I've
always been a creative in that way, and when I
created software, I created it like art, although that was
frowned upon in the industry where you have to stick

(01:03:58):
to a certain standards.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
But I have my spiritual mother who said.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
You should call it alchemical engineering because I've created my
own website. I built my website and I wanted it
to be a place that represented me in cyberspace.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
It's not just a place to disseminate information. It's a
place that truly reflects me. So if you never even
make it to me personally, you will have been affected
by my website because it is energetically in alignment and
reflective of me. Alchemy is a process of change, evoking change,

(01:04:46):
catalyzing change. And I feel like all of my creations
at this point and my evolution are alchemical creations. They
evoke change. I am alchemy walking. I evoke change when
I speak, when I when my presence, that's that's that's
part of the alchemy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
So the creations that I that I.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Lend my energy toward have the ability or are so
amplified that they evoke change in anybody who encounters those creations.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
How does one get to that point where they can
find their own alchemic engineering?

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
How does one get to that point? Yes, well, I
would say you mentioned it before. Everybody can't meditate or
everybody doesn't have time to meditate. But that's a critical
thing because it allows it doesn't it doesn't sease thought.
That's not the goal is to see s thought, but
it's really to reconnect with you. And so meditation when

(01:05:57):
I when I use the phrase meditator or the term meditation,
that can happen in any number of ways. It can
happen on your walks, It can happen as you drive,
like like you know, those those moments where you go
in seeming autopilot where you are just kind of existing.
You are kind of in the in the void space

(01:06:19):
where you are reconnecting with the true you, beyond the
beyond the doing, beyond the doing. So meditation coming home
to self. Learning to breathe, learn learning to ride the
breath into the heart space. That means being intentional when

(01:06:41):
you breathe. Following that breath internally and allowing it to
settle at the very center of you. The center point
of any space, of any object, of anything is a
divine portal space, the center point where time time and

(01:07:03):
space time ceases in the center. If you can bring
your awareness to the center of the center of you,
then you have the ability to reconnect. And when you
first begin doing this, it's like you can do it
for small stints, But as you practice yourself into it,
your ability to sustain yourself within that space, or allow

(01:07:26):
yourself to surrender within that space, gets more and more lengthy,
I guess, for lack of a better word, and you
allow yourself to reconnect with you. So I would say
that's a great place to start. Meditation in the breath.
Meditation in the breath.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I'll give you an example with me. One of the
places I like to meditate, and this space sounds funny
to a lot of people, is during the spring, summer,
and fall. One of the things I'd love to do
is mow my lawn. So I get on my riding
lawn mower, okay, and I literally will just sit there

(01:08:06):
and I will just allow life to disappear, and I
every time I mowed my lawn, I mow it in
a different direction, just to try something a little bit different.
And and you know, I'm a rebel that way. I'm
a rebel, okay. But the one thing that I notice
when I am meditating is I go back to a

(01:08:29):
lot of dark times. Okay, dark times especially with people
whom I used to call friends. Okay, and and those
friends and we all have them, but those friends that
that I feel wronged me and I miss them, and
I start reliving that pain that that hurts that I

(01:08:55):
experienced with that Because I don't like open doors, and
I feel those doors of pain are still open. How
do I get through that in order to when I
am meditating to say that was yesterday, I'm done with that.
I have let that go. But it happens every time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Yeah, so obviously you haven't let it go, right But yeah,
so in those cases, you have to not leave it
there or not turn away from it. That's the thing
about disease or pain or discomfort. The reaction is to

(01:09:43):
turn from it because we don't want to experience that thing. Right,
It's hard to experience those things. But really the magic
happens by taking that breath settling within the center of
the center of you and turning toward it to face it,
and asking it what it has to reveal to you
about you? Why am I feeling so triggered? Why do

(01:10:05):
I feel so much pain? What is it? What happened
in this situation that brought brought this pain up, or
that brings this pain up? Begin to question that pain,
have a console with the pain. Talk to the pain,
because the only way to allow the pain to dissolve
is by seeing it for what it truly is. Seeing

(01:10:26):
it for what it truly is, seeing the illusion that
might have been picked up or believed by virtue of
that experience.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
But I think they have to turn and face it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I think for a lot of us, though, we're willing
to face the pain, but when we have no control
of the outcome or no control of how the other
fifty percent feels, because it takes fifty to fifty in
order to make a situation happen.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
You know, right, that's but yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
This is this is another another.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Human conundrum where we think we get to dictate what
the other person experiences, right, it's if we don't have
control over that, and at some point you have to
make peace with the fact that you have no control
over other people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
You can't make them see your perspective. You can't make
them feel what you feel. You can't make them see
that because there's only one you. You're the only person
living life from your perspective. And so even if we
witness the same event, we're going to see it from
two totally different perspectives.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
So you have to make peace with that situation. And
it's like forgiveness. Forgiveness isn't for the other person. The
forgiveness is a liberation of the self from that situation.
So you are turning and facing it from that perspective.
So as you do that, as you relinquish that negative

(01:12:01):
energy that's attached to that situation, do you then allow
yourself to present to that person with new energy?

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
And so, by virtue of that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
New energy, do you allow the potential for a response
to meet you where you are energetically, so you can
shift the field in that way, you can shift that
interaction with that person by virtue of making peace with
it internally, frequency adjusting and allowing yourself to meet them

(01:12:34):
at that elevated frequency. By virtue of law, universal law,
you are met by virtue of your resonance. Life is
meeting you by virtue of your resonance, shift it internally,
witness it in reflection externally.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
That's how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
To follow that up, amy is asking, but should we
really let it go? Have to think again on again
to help in current situations?

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Should so?

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Should you let it go? That's the question for the self.
But you have to ask yourself what's the value in
holding pain and discomfort? I mean, is there a value?
As ask those questions, begin to question the self, begin
to question that pain. Is it worth it to carry

(01:13:25):
that pain?

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Forward it? By virtue of holding that pain?

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Are you hindering the realization of something else, something better,
something greater, by virtue of holding on to that pain,
by not making peace with that degree of pain. Ease
comes by virtue of having the courage to question, look at,
not resist those things that serve as triggers.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Let's move on to meditation. Yep, okay. Meditation is something
that I don't think a lot of people realize can
be done anywhere. Whether you're sitting in the middle of
your bed with your arms and legs crossed and got
your eyes closed and you're humming away or whether you're
on a long beautiful drive watching the sunset. I mean,

(01:14:17):
it can be done absolutely anywhere. How should someone learn
how to meditate?

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
M So, I'm gonna say there isn't a necessity to
learn how to meditate. There isn't a standard for what
meditation must be for you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Right, Meditation is personal.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
Meditation is whatever act you find pleasurable or enjoyable or
tolerable that can assist you in reconnecting with you or
truth right, it can be whatever it needs to be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
So there is no standard way to meditate.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
No, there is no necessity for a standard way of meditation.
All you need is a breath. You can meditate in
one pronic breath. One pronic breath that's one really slow,
intentional breath to bring you into the heart space, allowing
your body to fill up fully with air, and then

(01:15:31):
exhaling extremely slow or equally as slow in response, equal
parts inhale and exhale extremely slow, like a thirty second
inhale and a thirty second exhale. That's enough to bring
you center. Meditation is just coming home to self. Meditation

(01:15:54):
is just bringing yourself inward and allowing yourself to reconnect
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
What about those who suffer from mental illness such as depression, anxiety,
you know, any sort of mental challenges that may cause
you know, a lot of darkness or deep thought.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Deep thought. In those cases, I would say it's the same,
just I'm looking for the right words.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Coming home to self is a difficult task, especially when
one has allowed the voices to run rampant, to not
take control over that which permeates the mind in terms
of illusions. But it remains a simple task to bring

(01:16:58):
the self home, to allow the self to breathe, to
learn how to breathe, to allow the body to be breathed,
allowing the body to be breathed, so that some of
that can slow down, Some of that momentum connected to

(01:17:19):
those illusions can slow some of those illusions can slow.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
All right, Well, let me get to a comment from
Vanessa here in our chat room, because I think this
is kind of powerful. She says, when on where did
it go? My screen just jumped on me. Oh goodness,
where did it go? Here? It is, she goes, I
deserve to carry some of this guilt and pain. I

(01:17:51):
have a debt to pay for the pain I caused.
That is very a very very powerful two sentences that
a lot of people feel they have to carry the
weight of these chains of pain and suffering because it's

(01:18:12):
good for them. It's a it's about learning the lesson
rather than trying to figure out a way to let
it go. And in a way, I could say, from
a personal level, this makes complete sense what Vanessa is saying.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Hmm, yeah, that's that's that's tough. Hmmm, because that's a mm,
that's that it's like an unworthiness thing. I'm not worthy
of releasing myself from the guilt that the guilt or

(01:18:54):
the residual effects of having inflicted ill on someone else.
But the recognition of having done something that was not
above board is enough is enough to liberate you if
you recognize that that's that there was something done that

(01:19:17):
at this point in your evolution you realize could have
been done differently. That awareness is enough to allow yourself
to be set free. We are all sovereign, and so
you can make the choice for whatever you desire to experience.
But there is always another way. There's always the opportunity

(01:19:41):
for freedom to be realized if we grant ourselves permission
for that freedom, if we realize that we are worthy
by virtue of being. There's nothing that needs to be
done to render us worthy of walking in our truth

(01:20:03):
to render us worthy. No, there's nothing we need to
do to earn worthiness. We are worthy by virtue of being.
The fact that we exist make us.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Worthy. So you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Are worthy of being liberated from the chains of guilt
and shame. You are worthy of choosing to release those
chains that you are holding by virtue of your decision
to think, the decision to think that you need to

(01:20:43):
carry these chains because of what you did in the past.
The recognition is enough, the awareness is enough. This speaks
to human consciousness becoming conscious of itself, consciousness becoming conscious
of itself. Have become conscious of that which was done unconsciously.

(01:21:04):
A virtue of that, you are free. You are liberated.
It is that simple.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
It sounds so easy because it is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
It's so simple, but it's so hard to wrap the
human mind around it because we've been so conditioned to
believe that there is a necessity to do to earn
to earn right, that we're not worthy, we have to
earn worthiness, and that's not the case at all. You

(01:21:38):
are worthy by virtue of being, so you can choose
liberation and the moment you desire to have it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Liberation though, can be as we got about two and
a half minutes go before we go to break. Liberation though,
is a tough thing to say, because you know, there
are people who are caught up in their lifestyle. You
know they have to and it's and it's not just
about the lifestyle. It's about the bills that come along
with that, whether that's a car payment, whether that's a

(01:22:07):
mortgage or college tuition, or even if you're lucky enough,
a vacation once a year. Remember when people used to
have vacations once to twice a year. Yeah, I mean
there's a lot going on and a lot writing of it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
So if you're in a cotton a situation where you
are literally stuck, how do you liberate from that?

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
That takes some deep soul searching to realize what what
do you really need? What do you really need? And
I think that comes with getting to know yourself. It's
a it's a tough thing because we are so conditioned
that we must have certain material things, we must follow

(01:22:56):
certain paths like is conditioning, But it comes by beginning
to question it. Comes by virtue of hearing conversations like
this that spark your desire to question. They incite your
curiosity about yourself, incite your desire to want to learn

(01:23:17):
more about who you are and what you are. I
was that one I had that job where I was
making six figures. But one day I realized that I
was no longer that person to work in that way,
and so I had to let some things go. But
I walked away from it cold turkey and decided I

(01:23:40):
didn't need all those things to be happy. Those things
didn't make me happy right, I was happiness walking.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
I am. I exist as happiness.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
I don't need the material things to define a degree
of happiness for myself. And I think that's what we
have to assess collectively.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
When we come back from the break. I want to
ask you a question about that, because I think that
is very important, and that is is there a difference
for men and women in regards to that, Because for
a lot of men, there's a lot of pride that
goes into creating a home, that creating a family, making
sure that everything is taken care of, you know, And

(01:24:27):
there's a lot that goes on within that old school
way of thinking. You know that you got to be
the provider first and happiness second. And we'll get into
that more when we have Angela Dione Anderson for another
thirty minutes on spaced Out Radio. What a great show

(01:24:48):
it's been. You'll listening to Space with your host Dave Scott.

(01:25:13):
All Right, we are clear. Wow, We're getting into some
really good deep stuff tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yeah, audience is absolutely loving you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
That's a heavy one. That guilt is a big deal.
That guilt and shame is it is a big deal.
But you are free. You are worthy of being free.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
I will tell you this. I'm stuck right now. Yeah, Okay,
I am very stuck. I had a job that I
love that turned into a job that I now hate. Okay.
All with a switch of ownership, I've gone from working

(01:26:08):
with an absolute gem to a corporation of absolute animals. Okay.
And if they end up hearing this, I'll probably get
fired for it. That's okay, I'm not going to edit it.
That and I look at that, and I think my

(01:26:32):
son is in grade seven. I don't want to uproot
him because my parents uprooted me at grade seven and
it was the worst thing ever for my grades and
my caring of school. Okay, I used to love school,
and then when my parents moved that that you call

(01:26:55):
it late in elementary. Here we have elementary school from
K to seven and then high school is eight to twelve. Okay.
So I don't want to uproot my son in order
to because I remember what it did to me and
I don't want that for him. And so there is

(01:27:20):
a bunch of different you know, ways and avenues where
you're looking for that escape and you can't you can't
get it. Yeah, Sandra, little Sor is in grade seven now,
isn't that sickening? Sandra's literally been listening to this show
for like eight years.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Yeah, so yeah, he was like three when she started listening.
But that's kind of you know a lot of people
are like that is you're jammed in. I mean, I
have no problem, Like if it was just my partner
and I her and I would pick up and move.

(01:28:03):
Not an issue we but we absolutely love where we
live and in my small community of twenty five hundred
of a logging community that just saw the last of
the three mills get shut down. Okay, there are no

(01:28:26):
jobs here, Okay, but we don't want to leave because
we love it here. We love where we live, we
love we're ten minutes from nature. In ten minutes, I'm
in the forest where there is no one around, okay,
and the forest is so healing, you know, and you

(01:28:48):
get by some of these old growth trees and when
I get to go see my favorite tree in the forest,
and yes, as weird as that sounds, I have a
favorite tree in the forest. Okay. But when you go
through that, and you go through everything, you're kind of like,

(01:29:12):
what is the purpose of this? Okay? Why am I
learning such a very hard lesson? Because when I moved
up here ten years ago, I moved up here to
get away from this what I'm experiencing now, and it's
come full circle again, and it's probably into some dark

(01:29:33):
places at times. I mean, I'm very open with my audience.
My audience is going to test I have been very
depressed the last couple of months, very depressed.

Speaker 5 (01:29:44):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
It's something that you know. That's why I asked the
question about being stuck. But we're going to get to
that when we come back. We're coming back in about
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on Exit spaced Out Radio, Instagram at spaced Out Radio Show,
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Angela Dioni Anderson. We got it till the top of
the hour, and right before the break, I was asking you,
is there a difference between men and women in the
way they handle or tackle their spirituality? And for a

(01:31:43):
lot of people, they have blockages. They feel stuck because
of mortgages, car payments, they love where they live, They're
in a job that they hate, whatever it may be,
but they are stuck for a reason. How do you
get a person like that to flip and see the
brightness of what life has to offer again when they

(01:32:06):
feel so trapped internally and externally.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
That's a tough one. Self assessment is the name of
the game, and I was that one like you, stuck
in a job that I began to hate and had
to make that tough decision, had to make that decision
to give up the six figures. When I did the assessment, though,

(01:32:37):
I realized that I was here to be me. At
some point I connected with the fact that I was
here to be me. I connected with a group and
I began to listen to the stories that were shared
within that community, within that community space, and at some
point I gave myself permission to really embrace the fact

(01:33:02):
that there was more and I had the ability to
tap into more, I had the ability to live more.
And so at some point I made the decision that
I was going to live fully as me. I was
going to become fully realized as a soul and form.

(01:33:22):
There was a cost involved in that, because I had
to give up the things that weren't aligned with that
version of me, and one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Of those was the job. It was the house.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
We had to downsize and we ended up having to move,
needing to move, wanting to move, get a fresh start.
But all of that was worth it because we uprooted
the kids and all of that stuff, all the things
that you just mentioned not wanting to do, those were
the things I ripped the band aid and did, and

(01:33:58):
I bid the bullet and did the work. And it
has not been easy, but it has been absolutely worth
it because by virtue of this process, I've come to
understand all that I can become, all that I could
become because I was trapped in a situation where I

(01:34:20):
believed that this was what I had to be, this
is what I needed to be, because that was what
I had always done, and to walk away from that
would basically be reflected outwardly as a failure, right, because
I chose to walk away from all of those things.
But I realized that there's no failure in choosing you,

(01:34:43):
because you can only serve people.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
To the degree that you know yourself right. You can
only be.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
A help on an asset to people to the degree
that you've come to know yourself. And so in that experience,
I let go of all those things and chose to
step into the space of owning me and really assessing
what was necessary for my well being going forward. I

(01:35:18):
realized many of the things I had the three thousand
square foot house, I didn't need as much because really
my kids got lost in the house. Everybody would be
tucked away in their own little corners, extremely disconnected from
one another, and I was perpetuating that disconnection in that space.

(01:35:39):
What we've cultivated here now we have a much smaller
home eighteen hundred square feet. We always see each other,
we're always with each other. We're cultivating a more community space.
And so while it was a challenge to do that relocating,
it has been a great gifts. They've gotten an opportunity

(01:36:01):
to see me step into the fullness of me by
virtue of me steping into me. It's created the space
for all of us to live truthfully. Whereas before my
husband was walking that role of having to align with
the serial typical husband role. I gotta be the macho man.

(01:36:23):
I got to walk in my pride and make sure
I'm providing all of these things. Where he softened because
I've created the space wherein I'm not judging him, nagging him,
saying you must do these things in order for me
to be happy. No, I exist as happiness. He's just
an extra, He's an asset. He's a compliment to that.

(01:36:45):
And I feel like we've moved into a complementary space
where we are able to work together as a unit,
not necessarily fulfilling the roles as they have been defined
by society, but being with each other, working as a
unit in harmony, being what.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
We need as.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
A unit to cultivate what we are seeking to cultivate.
So in my home, the paramount thing is walking in
your authenticity, being who you truly are. If something is
not aligned for you, then you don't have to engage
with that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
You can make.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
The thing that hangs up humanity is that we get
stuck on our attachments we get attached to things and
be attached to them and use them to define us.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
But nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
You don't need anything external to define who you are. Right,
you are a divine being animating form own that it's
permission to live that truth. And it may be difficult
as you make the shifts and the changes to fully align.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
With the truth of you. But I want to say
you won't die. I mean, I mean, I don't want
to say it that bluntly. I don't mean to make
light of it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
But it's part of this evolutionary experience. You say you
don't want your son to experience the things that you experience,
But what if he chose you so that he could
experience that particular thing you were trying to protect him from.
We're all sovereign making choices that align with that which

(01:38:31):
will bring us into the highest realization of self. Well,
the alchemy happens in purifying fire, right, the flames of purification.
That's where the magic, That's where the magic happens. That's

(01:38:52):
where all the falseness is burned away. So it takes
some degree of being willing to walk through that fire, excepting.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
That there is no price.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
I'm willing to pay to sacrifice being all that I
have come to this planet to be. I'm no longer
willing to sacrifice any of that. I'm willing to lose
everything to fully walk in my truth. This is what
I said to myself when I left that job, when
I left, when I decided to fully own me, I'm

(01:39:29):
willing to lose everything. And I didn't lose anything. If anything,
I have gained all of these things. I've gained all
of this support. My husband is more present than he
has ever been. And today is actually so funny. Today
is actually our anniversary.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
I have this tree.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
I had this whole.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
Moment this morning because he said, he came in and
he said happy anniversary week, because we make it a
week long thing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Whole long story behind that, but he came.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
Into a happy anniversary week, and I thought to myself,
I just had this instant glimpse of our journey as
a couple, and I thought to myself what I was before,
and how I was holding him to a standard that
he could never achieve, that he could never live up to,

(01:40:22):
and how we've reached a point in our relationship. I mean,
he went through the fire where I was learning myself
and so he had to put up with me transitioning
and becoming this other person, but he's still present. Like
going through all of that turmoil, Like right, that's that
fire that you're going through, and coming out on the

(01:40:43):
other side and being more present, being able to be
more present with him and having him be fully himself,
settled and being himself. Everything has softened where we are concerned.
I said all of that to say, sometimes life presents
what we need when we needed, and our resistance to

(01:41:06):
it prevents us from walking into the fullness of us.
But the only way to get to that place, if
you truly want to get to that place, is you
got to go through it. You gotta put on your
big boy pants or your big girl pants and know
that you will be held as you go through it,

(01:41:29):
as you surrender to the fullness of you, as you
surrender to that guidance, because I know you hear your
guidance as you surrender to that voice, that still small voice. Well,
everything you need will be provided in the moment of need.
But you have to trust that everything that is not

(01:41:50):
necessary for you to walk forward into the fullness of you,
let it fall away. You don't have to be attached
to the material things because there was a material things
don't define you, the you that is really you, right,
They are not a definition of you. Be willing to
be willing to release what no longer serves. That's what

(01:42:13):
that means, being willing to release what no longer serves.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
Love that answer, that's powerful. Good job. Let's get to
jewels here. What is the process for self assessment?

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
Self assessment is just a curiosity, a curiosity about the self.
This is how you get to the self assessment. Observe life,
become extremely observant because all of life is showing you you.
All of life is serving up exactly what you need
to see in the way that you need to see it.

(01:42:51):
Or you have to be willing to see through the
surface level of what presents, connecting with what you connecting with,
how what you witness makes you feel right, willing to
question all of that, being willing to question when you

(01:43:13):
feel triggered, Why am I feeling triggered? What is it
showing me about me? What is the real story here?
Why am I feeling this particular way? Why am I
witness all witnessing all of this conflict? Being observant to
life simply observe, become observant to life, and begin to
question life. Those two things are the self assessment. Life

(01:43:37):
is you, Everything you witness is you. People are responding
to you based on the resonance that you carry. So
being aware life isn't happening to you as much as
it is happening through you. So recognizing that if you

(01:43:58):
carry nothing else away, remember that phrase, life is showing
you you in every moment, you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Just seem to have a perfect answer for everything. So impressed,
So impressed. How do we get to our transformational presence?

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Transformational presence?

Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
Well, everything we've talked about so far, I feel like
this that's how.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
We get there. You are energy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
You are energy animating form. You are consciousness. You are
consciousness becoming consciously aware of itself.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
Right, life is showing you you. These are the things.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
I have the ability to create all that I've witnessed.
I have the ability to manifest everything that I desire
to experience. You thoughts create, I'm a deliberate creator. Be
intentional about your creation, be intentional about your evolution. That's
that's the thing that I don't I don't think many
people are clued in on is that you can be

(01:45:14):
intentional about opening up. So discovering ways to open up,
open up. Light language is that thing that accelerated my evolution.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
I didn't realize it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
Until kind of far down the line after I left
my job and thought I was here to save the world.
So I was gonna create all these things to give
to the world and teach the world. But I realized
in the process of creating all these videos and transmissions
to share with the world, I was essentially activating myself.

(01:45:48):
And so I began to use light language, my soul's language,
my frequent that frequency that is me articulated through vocal expression.
I begin to use that to reprobe unwire or just

(01:46:09):
combobulate the mind, to walk me back into connectedness with self.
We all have that, we all have the ability to
express as our divine essence, and so as we allow
that frequency to move through us, it can walk us
back into realization of us.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Yeah, as we push forward and we look for more happy,
positive times in our life, is it about taking grace
in the simple things that make you smile, that make
you feel good. Are we complicating it too much?

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
Yes, it's not so difficult.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
We like collectively we make things are more difficult than
need be.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Like, we have this.

Speaker 4 (01:47:05):
Perception that we need to do, we need to fix,
we have to do something, we have to take some
action in order to fix and resolve things. But really,
what I have discovered in my own journey is that
it's more about surrendering. It's more about surrendering saying, you
know what, this is what life is given me right here.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
I'm just surrendering to that. I'm not resisting anything.

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
I'm taking everything as it comes. That's the good and
the bad, because the challenge of this awakening journey is
that you have to you have to have the courage
to see yourself and a lot of times it's like
a gut punch to the ego, like many times that

(01:47:52):
nobody is the stuff that nobody wants to see. But
you have to have the courage to face all of
life with openness, surrendering fully to it, making peace with
what you see and what you come to know about yourself,
and choosing with intention to walk forward in a way

(01:48:12):
that lends itself to you, creating the you that you
desire to become.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
When we make that happen, what's the result. How do
we open up to see the end goal. Is there
an end goal?

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
I don't think there. I think.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
I think one of the milestones on the journey is
stepping into retion of you, allowing that true soul essence
of the divine essence to come through and be expressed fully.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
But this thing is infinite.

Speaker 4 (01:48:53):
Source is infinite, The field is a sea of infinite potential.
So I don't think there is an end to that.
We exist as worlds within worlds, and through those worlds
within worlds. Is Source becoming more aware of all that
it might become through us? Right through every every point

(01:49:16):
of creation is a point of focus for Source to
step into greater realization, realization of Source and all that
it might become. So I don't think there is an
end from that perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
Is there then a way for us to be able
to or let me rephrase that, when we start the
process of making that change. How quickly or how much
of a dynamic is it for the healing the body
and the mind to start healing. Is it instantaneous?

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
I think it can be. It can be. It can be.

Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
You hear of spontaneous remissions and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
All of the time.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
There's a there's a direct a direct link between cancer
and anger or hitment. Right as those things are rebalanced,
as as that allusion is seen for the truth of
what it is, you can have things like spontaneous remissions occur.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Right, That's a possibility.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
So it just depends on the person and what they
need what they need.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Again, there is no clear.

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
Cookie cutter standard for how life must be. Life is
unfolded and the way each of us needs for each
of us as we needed to unfold such that we
can become more aware of who we are and who
we are not.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
We have three and a half minutes to go before
we have to say good night to you, and once
again another show that is flown on by and I
can't believe we're two hours in. You know, how do
we get started? What is the your top two most
minute pieces of advice you could give on how to

(01:51:22):
get started on a new path?

Speaker 4 (01:51:26):
Mhm, have the encourage, you have the urge to begin
to assess yourself and see what's for you and for
assess those things that you've picked from mom and then

(01:51:47):
is that really reflect for me or is that just
what mom and dad used to do?

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:51:53):
Because if it's something that they used to do. Then
I can let that go because that's not really authentically
reflect of me. Beginning to assess yourself, having the courage
to discover you, and as you discover yourself, having the
courage to live that and not hold yourself back because
you stand out from the crowd as different, because you

(01:52:14):
are not here to be like everyone else. You are
a unique expression of the source, here to give the world.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
With your authenticity. You are the greatest gift you have to.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
Give to the planet. You are the greatest gift. We
all hold a unique frequency. We all exist as a
unique frequency expressions and by virtue of us living it
being it, that frequency permits the field and begins to
wake everybody else up to ability to affect change by

(01:52:51):
your presence alone.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
And that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
You don't have to do anything but be authentically you
so have the courage to and then have the courage
to live fully as you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Where can people find your website and your YouTube channel?

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
Angela Dione Anderson dot com is a website and o
YouTube channel is Angela Dioni Anderson.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
That's beautiful. You have been.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
You have been an amazing guest tonight. You have been
very clear, cognizant, and very enlightening for many people who
got the opportunity to hear your voice speak. And I
think it's been a wonderful show. It really has. That's
all because of the presents you brought tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:49):
I appreciate that. I am honored to be here with
all of you. So this is not a task that
I take lightly, and I take every opportunity to bring
all of me to the moment. So that's the other thing,
being fully present.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Well, it's well deserved. It's well deserved of the compliment.
Angeladioni Anderson dot com is her website. Make sure you
go check it on out YouTube name is the same
as well, Angela Dione Anderson coming up next on spaced
Out Radio. As we enter our three swamp Dweller will

(01:54:26):
be here. Then the Wizard brings in the latest and
greatest UFO report. You're listening to spaced Out Radio with
your host Dave Scott. You were absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
Oh thank you. I wasn't too much.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
No no, no, no, you are fantastic. You are fantastic.
Thank you for being you and thank you for coming
on this show.

Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
Oh, thank you for having me, David, this is this
is great.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
We got you a bunch of new subscribers as well
to your channel. Nice, have a wonderful night tonight and
go get some sleep. You deserve it, all right, all right,
you take care and please stay in touch.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
Take care of my friend. She's awesome.

Speaker 9 (01:55:33):
Oh I love her, absolutely love her. Ut all right,

(01:59:30):
let's bring in the wizard.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Let him say hello, how are you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:59:34):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
Hello, Hello, What's how are you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:59:39):
Do you have a nickname? Everybody else has a nickname
except for you. Do you have a nickname?

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
Oh? I don't need one.

Speaker 10 (01:59:52):
I heard the last forty five minutes of the show
was fantastic. I will certainly have to go back and
watch the full show after the fact, and I went
out and subscribed to her channel. I'm gonna take a
listen to some of her transmissions. That sounds really interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
She's pretty amazing, very amazing. I was thoroughly impressed with her,
and her energy is just beautiful. Yeah, just beautiful.

Speaker 7 (02:00:28):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (02:00:29):
Yeah, she was really coming through. I think that's probably
what was causing some of.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Her technical issues too. Could have been near the end
there yeah, yeah, big. Thank you tonight to Amy Blue Cruise,
Walters Shelley, Terrestrial two Shadows and Kitty Caddy back for
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Speaker 6 (02:02:34):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 11 (02:02:38):
I'm swamp dweller, and tonight I'm going to take you
on a mystic journey of the unn, sharing tales of monsters,
legends and nightmapes.

Speaker 6 (02:02:47):
Welcome to the space Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 11 (02:02:52):
During my time in the Marines, I never really had
any odd or terrifying experiences until my last deployment. That is,
during this deployment, I was sent to the Middle East
and kind of tossed aside by my command because they
already had one sergeant in control the section I was
supposed to be in charge of. I was then sent

(02:03:13):
to Security Forces for the base I was on. While
on Security Forces Sect four, as us in the business
call It, I was assigned to be on the NCOIC
non commissioned officer in charge for a post.

Speaker 6 (02:03:28):
On the night shift.

Speaker 11 (02:03:30):
Funnily enough, ghost stories about old military bases stretched very
far in the community and as most of them, are
not very believable. While on this post, I was in
charge of four other guys, Two of them were originally
from the section I was recently hoard out from. Every
night we spent watching as cars drive in and out

(02:03:50):
of our gate. We have several paranormal encounters involving that
post that I won't go into because I don't have
the time. Fast forward a few months of standing this
post every night Marine Corps deployment living, me and my
unit returned to the United States to our home base.
That's when everything started. Originally, I thought it was just me.

(02:04:15):
About once or twice a week, I had the same
nightmare over and over where I was strangled by a
faceless shadow who was very tall and had long arms.
The dream originally started as just another nightmare, possibly due
to the side effect of vaccinations, James and time zones,
flight exhaustion, alcohol, et cetera. This went on for about
two weeks. When I went home on leave to my

(02:04:37):
home in another state. The nightmare seemed to stop for
a week or two until my last night at home.
I was going to sleep as usual in my family
spare room. I've been moved out for several years already,
but it's easier to stay with them. I was sleeping
with my trusty dogs. He was sleeping right next to me,
keeping me company. That's when the nightmare got worse. This

(02:05:00):
time it was very vivid and surreal where I didn't
wake up at.

Speaker 6 (02:05:04):
The first sign of being startled.

Speaker 11 (02:05:07):
During those dreams, everything started very boringly normal like, and
the one I remember the most. I was going out
about my daily routine on deployment. I was off shift
and walking to the chow hall when I stopped to
have a smoke with my guys, where I would hear
them say, hey, Sargeant, did you hear about something something?
And I would sit there and continue to make conversation

(02:05:28):
for a few minutes as I took drags off my
Marlboro Red, occasionally cracking jokes before giving younger Marie's life advice.
When walking into the front door of the chow hall,
I would clear out my rifle. We had one on
us at all times, and when opening the doors, everything
went black, like the doors opened to black. As I
stepped inside the hall to look around. I would then

(02:05:50):
stop and turn around and head back to the doors
when everything behind me disappears as well. I'm alone, still
in my gear from standing post. All of a sudden,
I see out of the corner of my eye and
even darker shadow moving towards me. When I looked straight
at it, and then I was paralyzed. The shadowy figure
stood around eight feet tall and had a long arm

(02:06:10):
where once it was close to me, it wrapped its
hands around my neck and I could feel myself grasping
for air, slowly losing consciousness. After what felt like forever
and just screaming for what felt like days, I woke
up in my head, back in my bed at home
with my dog freaking out because I was screaming.

Speaker 6 (02:06:33):
I woke the entire house out that night.

Speaker 11 (02:06:35):
About a week after that, I had already driven back
to my home base and it was back to work.
While I was losing sleep, the frequency of those dreams
was reaching about three times a week. At this point,
it was the end of the week and I was
about to start a week end. I was then assigned
to barracks duty barrack study is a mine. The stop
you tore the barracks, stop a drunk guy here or there,

(02:06:57):
tell people to turn down the music, and occasionally have
to walk to someone important who wants to check up
on his marines. So yeah, the post was twenty four
hours long. When one night, about three am, I was
touring the smoke pit of the barracks, where I run
into two guys who I stood post with.

Speaker 6 (02:07:14):
Me looking at the clock.

Speaker 11 (02:07:15):
I walked up, lit up a cigarette, and decided to
talk with them for a few minutes before I returned
to my duty hut.

Speaker 6 (02:07:22):
I asked them what they were doing up so late.

Speaker 11 (02:07:25):
Although it wasn't uncommon to see marine up and in
the smoke pit at three am, I wanted to make
some friendly conversation. My two friends started talking about nightmares
and not sleeping. I was prying into it for a
few minutes out of curiosity, but one of them pulled
out a sketchbook for tattoo ideas. He then said, this
is what I seen my nightmares recently. Both myself and

(02:07:46):
my buddy went very silent and cold. The creature was
the same thing from both of our dreams. We then
went into detail and saw all of our nightmares were
the same thing, doing normal things, fades to black shadow
figure strangling us. Everything was the same, right down to
the figure itself. None of us were able to sleep

(02:08:07):
at night. That was over a year ago. I have
since left the Marines. I decided not to re enlist
and go to college, and those nightmares have seen to
have gone away. Still, every few months I do have
a nightmare similar to the ones I had, not the
same in intensity, though, I wonder if my guys are
having them too, or if they ever got past it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
Thank you Swamp Dweller for another creepy story. If you
want more just like that, head on over to YouTube.
Type in Swamp Dweller hit subscribe ring that bell because
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(02:08:48):
From the Swamp to the Stars above Spring in the Wizard,
Josh Rutledge of the UFO Report, All right, the Wizard,

(02:09:22):
it's always good to have you on Space Out Radio.

Speaker 10 (02:09:24):
How you doing, my friend, I'm doing fantastic. I am
trying to decide if I'm gonna wake up at four
am to watch Age of Disclosure when it releases.

Speaker 1 (02:09:36):
You're that guy, you totally would.

Speaker 7 (02:09:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:09:40):
I mean, I do have to work tomorrow, but I
could take a nap in the afternoon, you know. Of course,
I won't go to bed until around one o'clock my
time anyway, so that's only three hours of sleep.

Speaker 7 (02:09:51):
So I don't know.

Speaker 10 (02:09:52):
But man, I'm just I'm really excited about a disclosure,
but also caut justly excited because I have a feeling
it's probably gonna let me down.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
Well, let's talk about Age of Disclosure for a couple
of minutes here, because there are a lot of people
out there in radio len who may not know what
it is.

Speaker 7 (02:10:14):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (02:10:15):
So it is a documentary by is it Greg Farah?

Speaker 7 (02:10:20):
I think is how you say his last name? Is that?
Greg is his first name?

Speaker 1 (02:10:24):
Sarah?

Speaker 7 (02:10:25):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (02:10:27):
And uh.

Speaker 10 (02:10:28):
It was premiered at like a film festival back in
March of this year, and I think everybody was expecting
it to be released sooner than now. I guess it's
taking them. It's taken them longer to get a platform

(02:10:49):
to launch it on that I guess they didn't want
to launch it on YouTube or something. So they were
in discussions and so it's finally coming out on Amazon Prime.
And then I think, uh, in select theaters. I think
those select theaters are like there's one in New York
and I think one in LA. But it's not cheap.
It's like twenty four dollars. If you're gonna buy it

(02:11:11):
on Amazon Prime. There's no renting option. You have to
you have to buy it at least adds as of today. Uh,
you know, it may be for purchase for a while
and then become for rent. I'm not sure. And the
kind of the the the anticipation for it is that

(02:11:31):
it's supposed to have forty plus government associated individuals, not
all you know, military people, some congressmen, you know, just
government associated individuals, forty plus that are going to go
on the record and talk about UFOs.

Speaker 11 (02:11:54):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (02:11:54):
They're probably going to use the word UAP. And it's
supposed to be the documentary, the documentary that will remove
all doubt for anyone who is on the fence as
to whether or not this is a real topic.

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
H that's kind of interesting, I wonder and my questions
on it, as I have questions about it as well.
My biggest question on it is whether or not they
will allow more new information to come out. I will

(02:12:39):
tell you right now, when I watch this movie, the
minute I see the three videos go fast, gimbal and
tic TAC come on the video screen, which I will
almost guarantee there's about a ninety nine point nine percent
chance that they will be used. My brain will tune

(02:13:01):
out because that's going to tell me whether it's the
same rhetoric we have been hearing from these voices and
so for so long. Now for you and me in
the community, this is old hat, this is old news.
But we have to get out of the idea, in

(02:13:22):
my opinion, that we have to keep repeating the same
stories over and over and over again just because there
isn't people who have maybe not tuned in before or
are just learning about this subject where it is brand new,

(02:13:44):
they can catch up. Okay. It's like if you take
an NFL season and you're at week nine, just because
somebody may have missed the first nine weeks of the season,
you don't restart it. They have to catch and I
think after eight years it's time for people to catch up.

Speaker 10 (02:14:07):
I'll use your NFL season analogy though, and I'll say that,
although you're correct, they don't start the season over, the
commentators will harken back to events that have occurred in
past games, and so if I don't expect the full
documentary to be nothing but you know, forty people talking

(02:14:32):
about those three videos. But I do suspect they will
use those three videos because it is some of the
best qualified and you know, acknowledged uap UFO footage from

(02:14:52):
the US government. So they'll I think they'll I'll think
they'll call back to those things. But I don't think
the entire documentary will be just two hours of forty
people talking about those three videos.

Speaker 1 (02:15:06):
I don't think they're going to talk about the videos
because that's a little bit, a little bit pushing its past.
Pardon me, but I know they're going to be shown
because that's all they've really got.

Speaker 10 (02:15:20):
Well, and you know, like you say, there are people
who I guess for me, it's probably a matter of
you know, she's been on your show before. Deb's shocking,
you know, a really good friend of mine. You know.
The way she talks about the messages that people say

(02:15:43):
is that twenty people could say the same message and
one hundred people could listen to those twenty people say
the same message, but really only get it or hear
it from a select group within that twenty that said it.
And that's because there's like a there's like a frequency

(02:16:04):
match that occurs between the receiver and the transmitter. And
so if that means that forty people have to talk
about for a brief moment, those three videos, but one
of those forty plus people is on the same frequency
match to somebody who's never considered this or thought about

(02:16:24):
it before, then I'm okay with that. It's it's like
a you know, saturation, you want you want to saturate
the market if you will, with what it is that
you're trying to get out there, and hopes that will
be the thing that triggers the person who is who
has heard it, heard it ten times before, heard it

(02:16:44):
from their friends, heard it from their and their friend
at the bar, whatever the case may be. But this
time they hear it from this other person and it
happens to be a frequency match, and that sparks them
off to say, wait a minute, there might be something
to this, and they go off and investigate it for us.
Like you said, in the community, it's annoying because we've

(02:17:06):
seen those videos videos. You know, I've probably seen them
a couple hundred times, if not maybe even a thousand
at this point. And everybody that I uh, when I
tell them that I investigate UFOs, usually the first thing
they ask me is like, what do you think about
about those videos from the Pentagon, you know, on twenty eighteen?

(02:17:28):
And we talk about them for a little bit, and
I'm okay with that being the jumping off point because
for a lot of people, there is a sense of
reverence that comes from, for some reason, the government releasing
official videos on the topic.

Speaker 7 (02:17:45):
And so, you know, I think.

Speaker 10 (02:17:46):
For that reason for me, although it'll I too would
be the same as you, and it would cause me
to say, oh, here we go, just another documentary talking
about these three videos. What I'm gonna have to do
is push myself to not fall into that trap, because
the moment I turn off my mind to the possibilities

(02:18:10):
of what is said or not said in the documentary
is the moment that I lose or miss some key
information that may be hidden in just the general dialogue.

Speaker 1 (02:18:22):
Throughout the documentary. I would agree with you on that.
I think you nailed the nail on the head right
there with what you said. You know, and I know
it's not for you, me or the UFO community. It's
about educating those who have limited to no knowledge of this.

(02:18:43):
It's about trying to open up their eyes. We've been
trying to open up their eyes for eight years. It's
been all over the media. Okay, it's been all over
news outlets, radio shows, even it doesn't matter whether it's
talk radio shows or a morning a morning Zoo type

(02:19:03):
of show. They've been talking about it. This subject has
got more press than everything. I guess what I'm saying is,
at some point you got the ball rolling seven eight
years ago. Now with the tow of the Stars Academy,
the videos coming out the New York Times article, it's
time to push past that. If you get if you're

(02:19:26):
going to keep recycling, okay, you're never going to stop recycling.
And at some point, at some point, these individuals who
are wanting these newbies to believe that this is going
on are going to have to start providing the same relevance, okay,

(02:19:48):
some more relevance to create that second wave of information.
Have we really had that second wave of quality videos
of deep discussion We've had pieces of it, we've had
the hearings, but we really haven't had that second natural
wave that you would expect.

Speaker 10 (02:20:10):
Well, yes, and I will also say that, and I
think you would agree with this statement. The difference between
someone who is a believer versus someone who is a
knower is an individual who's had their own experience. True,
and so for many people in the community, it is

(02:20:32):
made up of people who have had their own experiences.
So for them, a lot of the information is going
to be like, well, yeah, duh, you know. But for
the individual who has not had their own experiences or
is reluctant to acknowledge that they've had their own experiences,

(02:20:53):
this might be that little kind of sliver, if you will,
that the door gets cracked open just enough so that
they have an experience. Now, my friend Stephan who does
my podcast with me, he says it all the time.
He's like, if you're going to buy a brand new car, like,
let's tell you you want to buy a brand new
Geep Wrangler or you're just looking to get a new Wrangler.

(02:21:16):
Everywhere you go, all of a sudden, you see them,
you know, you see them everywhere, different colors, configurations, so
on and so forth, because you're now looking for that thing.
So if this documentary causes people to be looking for
the possibility of the phenomena to be real, they'll have
their own experiences and that will lead them to wanting

(02:21:39):
to know more about the phenomena. That's the difference between
you and I and probably a lot of the people
watching this show versus the people who were uninitiated, is
that we've had those experiences, and so they keep us
grounded and rooted in wanting to under stand the phenomenon more.

(02:22:02):
When we get pushedback or when we get information that
pushes against our understanding, we can fall back on the
experiences that we've had. But for someone who is uninitiated,
who hasn't had that experience or is unwilling to accept
that they have, they don't have that groundation, that foundation
to fall back on. So to your point, that's where

(02:22:25):
having new information that has to come forward then to
keep them engaged until they have their own experience, and
then they'll have that foundation to fall back on when
things get interesting or rough our new information comes to.

Speaker 1 (02:22:42):
Lfe Well said, Well said, we got about ninety seconds
to go before we have to go to break the Wizard.
Josh Rutledge is here tonight on spaced Out Radio's UFO Report.
I hope it does well. Don't get me wrong. I'm
not trying to shoot it down before anybody see it.

(02:23:03):
Am I going to watch it? Yes, I am. I'm
curious to see how it looks. If it's a repeat
of all the other information one minute ago, what do
you expect.

Speaker 7 (02:23:17):
I expect to be a lot of.

Speaker 10 (02:23:18):
The information and stories that we've heard probably over the
last you know, four or five years, But I do
expect that there will be some new information or new
insights that will be proposed. One of the people that
I've seen that saw the screening in March, they said
that they the documentary jumps to the conclusion that extraterrestrials

(02:23:42):
are here and they're monitoring us, And they kind of
downplayed a little bit and say that they don't provide
any evidence to support that claim. But again, for those
of us who are experiencers, duh, you know, so, I
mean it's it will be picked apart on X and
read it by the cynics, uh, and it will probably

(02:24:05):
be picked apart by the believers. But I think for
the knowers, there'll be some truths hidden amongst some of
the repeat information that will help guide us in what
we're trying to seek.

Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
On that note, when we return on spaced Out Radio,
we're going to get the Wizard's opinion of another UAP company.
This is spaced Out Radio and your host name Scott
jumping into the fold. All right, Wizard, we're clear bol

(02:24:59):
I think the should suit you well though. Thank you,
because you are very very smart and talented. Well, thank you,
And I meant I mean that nickname with a complete compliment.

Speaker 10 (02:25:10):
My man, all right, cool, I mean, I'm I'm, I'm
I'm happy to own it.

Speaker 7 (02:25:15):
I just I need a I need I need a
wizard shirt as all.

Speaker 10 (02:25:21):
I'll figure one out. I've got you one for caravou Khan.
I'm gona send it to you real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:25:28):
All right.

Speaker 7 (02:25:30):
This is this comes uh courtesy of chat Chip.

Speaker 1 (02:26:01):
Let's see this. Oh I like that. I'll show the
audience here. Okay, this is fantastic. It makes a lot
of sense. It really really makes a lot of sense. Yep, yeah,

(02:26:25):
makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 7 (02:26:27):
Oh, getting a lot of wicked feedback.

Speaker 1 (02:26:31):
There. Sometimes sometimes when I bring Facebook on for some reason,
even though I have the tab muted, it brings a
lot of feedback and audio on there.

Speaker 7 (02:26:44):
Sounds like you were dropping cymbals downstairs, so that.

Speaker 1 (02:26:48):
Is me, Thurst. And how well the third how are you?
How's Lovey doing?

Speaker 10 (02:26:59):
Let's see I heard that on the guest tonight. It
was her anniversary today. Yes, my anniversary is Sunday. If
you're wondering, what is it that's exciting? Yeah, tomorrow is
the anniversary of our first date. So beautiful twenty years. Man,

(02:27:22):
it's been like where'd the time go?

Speaker 1 (02:27:28):
All right? If you're a member on our YouTube channel,
you should get a notification if you have your notifications
turned on that the latest episode of Secrets of the
Forest is ready ready to be shown. So if you're

(02:27:52):
a member, you're going to watch it early on Saturday,
five pm Pacific, and then the rest of us get
to watch it after that. Hey, I actually did it.
I'm pretty proud.

Speaker 7 (02:28:12):
I'm a member, so I'll get to watch it.

Speaker 1 (02:28:15):
Yeah, it'll be fun. Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (02:28:25):
Become a member. Don't be a square.

Speaker 1 (02:28:30):
How did you meet your Lovely Lady.

Speaker 7 (02:28:33):
Online?

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
Actually?

Speaker 10 (02:28:34):
Okah, yeah, it was a local run website for the
city we were in and.

Speaker 7 (02:28:45):
Met her on there.

Speaker 10 (02:28:46):
We talked on the phone for like a month before
we went on our first date, and then.

Speaker 7 (02:28:53):
That's all she wrote.

Speaker 1 (02:28:55):
Beautiful. Then she trapped you, she said the hook.

Speaker 7 (02:28:58):
And it's brought probably around.

Speaker 10 (02:29:03):
She she always would would say, you weren't a part
of my five year plan. So but that's probably the
other way around.

Speaker 1 (02:29:12):
And two kids later in a beautiful home. Yea did
very well.

Speaker 7 (02:29:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (02:29:21):
Just just seven more years until they're off to college
and it's just the two of us again.

Speaker 1 (02:29:27):
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Blue Cruise and Walter. Thank you for your great super chats.
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(02:29:49):
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(02:30:37):
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(02:31:43):
with us on the UFO Report. Josh, thank you so
much for tuning us in.

Speaker 10 (02:31:49):
Yeah, it's great to be here, Dave. And you know,
despite uh, you know, some said said some frustrating news
from now at their press conference the other day. I am,
you know, like we talked about in the first half hour,
I'm interested to see what age disclosure has to show

(02:32:11):
us and will it be some new information, some some
new little tidbit to wet the whistle with.

Speaker 1 (02:32:19):
So well, let's let's quickly speak about the NASA thing.
I went off on it last night. I did, and
I'm I'm actually quite happy about the way I went
off on it. So you have to listen to last
night's show to figure it out. Okay, uh for our listeners.
I was disappointed. I was very disappointed.

Speaker 2 (02:32:41):
It was.

Speaker 7 (02:32:42):
It was exactly what I expected it to be.

Speaker 10 (02:32:48):
I did not I did not expect them to acknowledge
anything that Navy Lobe has been saying in any positive way.
And in fact, when they first got started, they and
in the very in the very most NASA research librarian
kind of way, no offense to research librarians, they kind

(02:33:11):
of just downplayed everything that ABBY has been talking about
and the next two hours was basically talking about the
images that they are are worry able to capture a
lot of other data that they're going to upload once
it's been processed aka scrubbed, and then it's going to

(02:33:34):
be fueling scientific discussion for years to come. There was
a panel like you know of people that talked about it.

Speaker 7 (02:33:44):
I just it was exactly what I expected it to be.

Speaker 10 (02:33:49):
I posted on my socials saying that you know, NASA
has replaced imagination with hubris, and the fact that they
can't even fathom the possibility that it could be anything
other than an interstellar comet is an indicator that NASA

(02:34:11):
has lost touch with what, at least from a public's perspective,
it was intended to be.

Speaker 1 (02:34:21):
I would agree with you, and that's something that we
said last night. Most people do not understand that NASA
is a two headed beast. You have the publicity side,
which is still running off the reputation of putting a
man on the Moon fifty years ago, and you have

(02:34:43):
the military side of it all and the spy satellite side,
where they are responsible for monitoring a lot of the
satellites that the CIA, the NRO, the NSA, the Air Force, Navy, Marines, Army,
all use have a huge responsibility on the militaristic side

(02:35:04):
of things. That being said, what have you done for
me lately? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (02:35:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:35:15):
Yeah, And the photograph that they showed that they presented
that they were all proud of literally looked like a
motorcycle riding through the fog. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:35:28):
And then there's one that I think the web telescope
took that's all pixelated, and you know, just yeah, the
I am baffled how Joe Schmo in his backyard with
his Celestron you know, one hundred and fifty dollars telescope

(02:35:50):
can take better pictures with his cell phone camera on
like a mount that he bought on Amazon, then NASA
can take from space. It just it boggles my mind.
So it must be that, you know, there's like the

(02:36:11):
adage of you know, better to be thought a full
than to you know, than to open your mouth and
remove all doubt.

Speaker 7 (02:36:18):
And NASA opened its mouth, and.

Speaker 1 (02:36:23):
I think so, I think you're absolutely correct. Okay, NASA
has a giant mouth with a giant foot. They keep
putting it in. Okay, they keep shoving that foot deeper,
deeper inside their mouth, and I think that there the
problem with NASA is there's no accountability to the public

(02:36:46):
and nor do I think they care. This new generation
of NASA does not care. It's like, we're gonna give
you what we give you and that's it. They don't
create astronauts anymore. They have very few test pilots, and
you know everything's going through SpaceX, Blue Origin and others. Now,

(02:37:08):
I mean there, NASA is basically out of the space
to race because they're contracting everything.

Speaker 10 (02:37:13):
Now, well they did, they didn't put out an announcement.
I think it was last week inviting the media to
come to the launch that they're going to do soon
for their first Artemis mission, which is, you know, their
attempt to put a colony on the Moon. And I
think that I think it's like twenty twenty six coming

(02:37:34):
up next year is when that's that first launch is
supposed to be. They're inviting any and all media to
come and participate in the launch. Dave, I think Space
out Radio needs to go if we had the budget.
But here's here's a comment by Beno in our chat room.
No little kid dreams of being an astronaut anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:37:53):
Shame on you, NASA. I mean, man, growing up in
the seventies and eighties, Man, you want to be an astronaut, right,
and then when they moved to those really cool looking shuttles,
you wanted to be on there. Man, you know, you
wanted to be one of them.

Speaker 10 (02:38:12):
Well, you know, you also you also though, we're coming
out of the fifties and sixties era of like, you know,
the men from Mars. And you know, I was just
listening to a segment on or a story on NPR
the other day talking about how Lowell, who you know,
is the loll Observatory here in Arizona up in Flagstaff.

(02:38:36):
You know, he discovered Pluto and but he was also
a big proponent that there was a civilization on Mars.
And so you're coming out of that era, right of
the early nineteen hundreds and all through the talk of
you know, life on Mars and life on Venus, and

(02:38:57):
then you you know, then you fast forward and you
move into the space race and then astronauts and put
a man on the Moon. And I know there are
people who think we didn't go to the moon, but
you know, buster that the India rover that they sent
up a couple of years ago actually took a picture
of our landers on the Moon from space from their

(02:39:21):
orbit of the Moon. So our landers at least went
to the Moon, whether or not you think people.

Speaker 1 (02:39:25):
Were in or not.

Speaker 10 (02:39:28):
So it was you know, but yeah, and then we,
like you said, we went into the space Shuttle program
and everything. But now it's just like you said, it's
contracted out or we're not doing like really any fun
cool things. Like I know, my kids participate in a
thing at school for amateur ham radio so they can

(02:39:50):
talk to the National Space Station. But that's probably the
limit of the cool things that happened with space nowadays
for kids, and really all that encourages you to do
is to maybe be involved in you know, amateur radio.

Speaker 1 (02:40:08):
Agreed, Absolutely agreed. I just wish NASA would give more accountability.

Speaker 10 (02:40:15):
Okay, well they didn't get they didn't get their budget
cut you know, quite a bit recently, so you know,
I just don't think that NASA is staffed.

Speaker 7 (02:40:29):
With dreamers anymore.

Speaker 10 (02:40:32):
There's no one who's dreaming about the next what is
the next space phrase?

Speaker 1 (02:40:41):
Right?

Speaker 10 (02:40:41):
No one's really thinking about or dreaming about that, at
least if they are, they're not talking about it. If
they're releasing papers in peer review journals, that's great for science,
but that's not great for the public. NASA only, in
my opinion, is only successful if it has the backing

(02:41:02):
of the public, and they don't.

Speaker 1 (02:41:08):
I think that's an extremely profound statement right there. You'll
probably see that on the reels later. It was that good.
But no, I think you're absolutely right. I want to
change topics here. So we only got about ten minutes left.

Speaker 7 (02:41:22):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:41:23):
So apparently I was tipped off today that there is
another company coming out saying they are going to bring
world class technology to UAP detection. Okay, This company called

(02:41:44):
el Dayon is out of California. They have nobody listed
as you know, much like Enigma Labs. They have nobody
listed as their team. There is one gentleman who has
created the companies out of you see. I believe it's
UC Berkeley. His name is David Hooper. Okay, this guy

(02:42:06):
seems pretty darn smart. Okay, but over the last couple
of years, we have seen a plethora, extra plethora if
you're keeping count at home, of different UAP searching devices,
radar detections, absolutely everything that is trying to detect and

(02:42:29):
going to take this whole subject right into the stratosphere.
Pun intended on how to prove where these things are,
what they are, who they are, and what they ate
for breakfast and how they refueled. Is this, just, in
your opinion, another group trying to bridge itself with future

(02:42:54):
government contracting.

Speaker 7 (02:42:57):
It's possible.

Speaker 10 (02:43:00):
You know, I have a made Oar unit in my house,
which made Oar has been around probably one of the
oldest of this type of thing where you've got, you know,
a device in your house that is passively monitoring various
you know, signals and things. Yeah, I've seen this. I've
seen this company before. A friend of mine was just

(02:43:20):
at a conference in Italy and this company had a
booth there set up with their rig.

Speaker 7 (02:43:29):
Their rig by the way.

Speaker 10 (02:43:31):
Nothing like any of this that's being shown on the screen.
It's very rudimentary. They're very much in the early stages
of defining what the different instruments that are going to
use are going to be. They have no assembled package.
It's it's I'll send you some pictures after the show

(02:43:51):
that my friend sent me. It's literally just a bunch
of things, you know, strewn across the table with the
pitch of hey we can we can make this thing
the next great thing. But to me, this is no
different than the Sky three sixty that we talked about.
I think on Monday, you know, Jim, I think Jim
Sigola has one out there now that he's kind of backing.

(02:44:18):
But you're right, it's and I think it is because
on a on an episode of Star Talk with Nilda
gross Tyson a couple of months ago, the current head
of Arrow, which his name is escaping me at the moment,
but the current head of Arrow said to Neil that

(02:44:40):
they're going to be looking at how to get devices
into the hands of the general public so that they
can be passively monitoring for all of these kind of
instrumentation signals, so that when they have a sighting occur
near one of these devices, maybe there's instrumentation data that
TA can capture that will help them understand it.

Speaker 7 (02:45:02):
So I think you're right.

Speaker 10 (02:45:03):
I think it's the somebody has seen the writing on
the wall and saying, hey, I want to be the
guy who can mass produce these things absolutely sell to
the US government so that they can put them in
the hands of the general public.

Speaker 1 (02:45:16):
Well, let's read this together here. Okay, okay, so this
is what they put out there. Once again, they're going
with the non existent threat narrative. The problem no one
wants to admit. This is from Eldayon's website eldeon dot com.
For decades, our skies have hosted something we don't understand.

(02:45:38):
Defense systems miss them, intelligence agencies classify them, academia avoids them.
But the events persist. Over five hundred credible UAP incidents
acknowledged by the US government, with hundreds more reported globally
every year. No sensor fusion platforms are optimized for detecting

(02:45:59):
anless flight behaviors like trans medium travel, hypersonic acceleration without
propulsion or time dilation effects. No public or field of
defense infrastructure exists to monitor or respond to these incursions,
despite their repeated violations of restricted airspace, including near nuclear

(02:46:21):
facilities and military installations. Twenty two million spent by government
programs like a TIP and ConA Blue with zero deployable
delivered to the field. We face a blind spot at
the edge of our technological reach. The unknown isn't just
out there, it's already here, and our systems were never

(02:46:42):
designed to see it. To me once again, trying to
capture the threat narrative your thoughts.

Speaker 10 (02:46:52):
I agree, and I think it's because this website, if
you look at it, at it in its entirety, it's
very much geared towards the military industrial complex type individual.

Speaker 5 (02:47:07):
Right.

Speaker 10 (02:47:08):
It's trying to sell its services or its products to
the military. Deploy our deploy our stuff. You know, here's
a field deployable unit that you can put on any
hum V and put out in the environment and capture
information and.

Speaker 7 (02:47:23):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 10 (02:47:25):
It's also a pretty bold statement that our systems that
it makes an hour that quote unquote, our systems were
not designed to capture in this stuff. If that's the case,
then why are we capturing things? You know, why does
the three videos we don't want to see anymore? Why
do they exist? If our systems were not designed to

(02:47:47):
capture it. The designers may not have sat down and
said we need to build a thermal system that can
also capture UAP, But the fact that we're capturing video
says that our technology can capture it. I think what
this website with this company is ultimately going after, like

(02:48:08):
you said, like we talked about before, is they want
to make a product that they can sell to the
US government that the US government can then turn around
and either sell or place with volunteer public amateur researchers
that want to put these things in their backyard or

(02:48:30):
in the garage or up in the attic, or whatever
the case may be, to passively monitor for UAP. The
problem that they'll soon find, and maybe this company doesn't
really care, but the problem they'll soon find is is
that UAP don't don't act on some sort of a schedule, right,

(02:48:54):
It's not like they fly past a certain spot every
Tuesday at two pm.

Speaker 7 (02:49:00):
They're very random and erratic.

Speaker 10 (02:49:03):
And the Madar unit has been operating in its you know,
since its inception for like twenty five, for thirty years,
and they have some good catches. You can go to
Madar dot site and look up some of the information
that they can have caught. You can look up and
see where all the different units are placed around the world.

(02:49:24):
But it doesn't do any good if there's not also
eyewitness testimony, because just observing or capturing anomalist data without
any eyewitness testimony to also correlate to that data, you're
missing half of the puzzle, you know, or at a minimum,

(02:49:45):
you're missing what the picture on the front of the
box of the puzzle is supposed to be, so that
you can put the puzzle together. So ultimately it has
to be deployable units in the hands or home of
people who are interested in observing or are already observing

(02:50:06):
uap UFOs.

Speaker 1 (02:50:11):
A buck thirty left on the clock.

Speaker 10 (02:50:15):
Well, since we've got a bart thirty, I want to
switch switch gears just one second, because since you've gone
on kind of an anniversary kick the last couple of
times we've gotten on. Did you know that today is
November twentieth, nineteen fifty two, is the anniversary for George
Adamski's famous Orthon contact seventy three years ago today.

Speaker 1 (02:50:36):
I did not know this.

Speaker 7 (02:50:38):
Yeah, in Desert Center, California. He was out with some friends.
They saw a large Cigars slash submarine shaped craft, he said.

Speaker 10 (02:50:49):
He walked away from the group, and a smaller scout
ship landed nearby. Its pilot, a long haired space brother
from Venus named Orthon Suppose, stepped out and communicated him
by gestures and telepathy seventy three years ago today.

Speaker 1 (02:51:10):
And just like that, another guy I believed in the aliens.

Speaker 10 (02:51:16):
It's also an anniversary for the Muamua paper was filed
twentieth September twenty seventeen, and that paper is what officially
classified Amuamua as the first confirmed interstellar object. That also
happened today, So our I guess November twentieth, it's now
no number twenty first. I do not know where you are,

(02:51:38):
but yeah, so a couple of anniversaries today, Dave.

Speaker 1 (02:51:43):
I love it. Way to go. Where can people find
your podcast?

Speaker 2 (02:51:47):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (02:51:47):
You can find all of my stuff at my website.
It's our Mystic journeys dot com. That's oh you are
Mystic journeys dot com. From there you can find my podcast,
my YouTube channel, my private.

Speaker 7 (02:52:01):
All the stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:52:03):
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