Oct. 17/25 - The Supernatural Sleuth with Brandon Gayheart - Spaced Out Radio

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our website. We're getting closer to Halloween each and every night,
and that's why we're getting into the paranormal tonight. Brandon

(03:16):
Gayheart is our guest. He's better known online as the
Supernatural Sleuth. We're gonna talk paranormal and supernatural with him momentarily.
Then in our number three swamp Dweller will join us
for a creepy story. We're gonna follow that up by
Lee Strauss from Element one point fifteen and The Q
and A. So let's get right to this tonight because

(03:38):
I'm very excited to have this guest on. And let
me tell you why. About three months ago, I literally started,
you know, going through my reels on Facebook, and I
do this type of show each and every night, so
on my reels, I try and stay away from the
paranormal and supernatural. Give the old noggin a break on this.

(03:59):
The problem was this guy's reels, and I'm blaming him
for this. This guy's reels kept on popping up in
my feed and I'm like, who is this supernatural sleuth? Well,
Brandon Gayheart is a guy who is incredibly knowledgeable when
it comes to the paranormal and supernatural. He is someone

(04:21):
that when you watch his content online, he's bringing real
encounters and real spooky stories to the public, it seems
like on a daily basis. I mean, this guy is
a cop, he is somebody in law enforcement. He is
somebody who's a paranormal enthusiast his entire life, but he's
now taking it to social media and he's taking off.

(04:44):
I mean, this guy gets thousands of views on his
videos and I'm here to introduce them all to you
because I want you guys to subscribe to this guy.
And the reason why you know me, I don't support
a lot of paranormal because I think a lot of
it is fluffy. I think a lot of it is
just people out there for their own ego and not

(05:04):
respecting the field. Not Brandon, no way. I don't know
him personally, but I could tell by his videos he's
doing this because he cares and he wants to share
a little bit of the paranormal madness and the stories
that are going on out there. You could go subscribe
to his YouTube channel, The Supernatural Sleuth I have. I

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hope you do too, Brandon Gayheart, Welcome to spaced Out
Radio for the first time. How are you.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Doing great, Sarah, glad to be here. Thanks for having
me on.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I am so excited to have you here, my man.
Like I said, I found you literally thanks to Facebook
reels and I've watched your content. Man, I know, the
one thing I can notice right off the bat about
your videos is you have a high respect for this
field and you take it very seriously. Why is it

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such a passion for you.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Ever since I was a key? I can't you know,
it's hard to put into words, but I've always been
drawn to it. And what I realized over the years
that so many people have had encounters, but in most
cases they're afraid to speak up because you get labeled
so easily as you know, a liar. You're just doing

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it for attention. And you know, a couple of years ago,
I just started on social media, started out telling my
stories and experiences than little about it all. I kept
getting emails and messages and people wanted me to share
their experiences.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Also, how much do you enjoy it? How much are
you really enjoying this, this social media limelight that you've
kind of built for yourself. I know you probably didn't
do it for the clicks or the likes. You see
a lot more mature than going after that, But I
mean people have really enjoyed your content.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I've been truly blessed with it, and I do enjoy its.
It consumes most of my day, which my days are
pretty busy, but it's a true passion. It's something that
I think about when I wake up and when I
go to bed, and it's more of a calling, I think,
than it is a hobby.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, I'm looking in our YouTube chat and people are
already bentioning how they've already subscribed to your channel, So
I like when that happens for our guests here. My
question to you is how did it all begin? Where
did this love of the paranormal start?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well? I had my first paranormal experience when I was
four years old in my grandmother's house, which is actually
I could look out the window right now and see it,
but I sing what is commonly known as hat man,
the only difference being most hat Man encounters are a
shadow figure was like a tall man with a brand

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hat on. What I seen was full body apparition. The
monopoly man thank the Monopoly man, you know, the top
hat monicle, And that just sparked something inside of me
that's carried on over forty years.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
What was that like? How far away was he from you?

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Well, I'll never forget it, you know, I was just
four years old, but I can remember it. It was
a my grandmother used to babysit myself and my cousin.
We were out on the porch. It was a beautiful
spring day sunshine, and she kept a toy box at
the bottom of her stairs. It's a two story house

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and nobody really went upstairs as much. It was mostly
for storage. But there was a toy in that box
that my cousin and I wanted to play with, and
I volunteer to go and get it. And so I
walk in the house and I make my way to
the stairwell or this huge box of toys was And
as I'm leaning over digging through the toys, I just

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felt the hairs and up all over my body. And
I looked up and that just above me, this man
was hands on the rail, leaning over looking at me. Oh,
my small gray beard, like a Victoria Aaron Aarrasu top hat.
And I can still see him forty years.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Later, Oh my, what was he doing? Just staring at you, just.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
There, and he didn't move, He didn't speak a word,
He was just looking at me.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
That is creepy at four years old, I mean, you
must have been scared out of your mind. Did you
run and tell mom and dad at that time?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well? Yeah, I mean I remember running out, and I'm
sure I told my grandmother, and I don't remember much
after that. I'm sure she may have went and looked,
but you know, like most four year olds who see
a monster in the closet, I'm sure she didn't think
much of it, but I can remember it forty years later.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
My goodness, my goodness, did he ever come back?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I never did see him again, but I have seen
things since then.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, tell us about these. I mean, I know you're
a paranormal investigator and you also dabble in the cryptid
world where there's a lot of sasquatch sightings and weird
creatures in your area. What are you looking for?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Well, the majority of my life it's mainly been what
we would think call ghost you know, the paranormal. But
in the last probably three to four years or so,
I've kind of got into the cryptid side of things
due to my best friend Zach Hall, who has quite
a bit of a background. He was on the expedition Bigfoot.

(10:45):
I'm not sure if you're aware of that show on
the Discovery Channel, but he got me into the cryptid
side of things. So now I'm kind of back and forth.
When the opportunity arises to hunt for Bigfoot or dog Man,
I do that. If not, you know, I go into
haunted houses and buildings.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
So this passion for the paranormal started basically of four
years old, because I mean, forty years later, you still
can't get this hat man creature out of your head.
Did you? How did you lose the fear of it
to become more curious?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well, like I said, it was always in the back
of my mind. I didn't really. I've always been fascinated
with scary movies, paranormal halloweing.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
I'm more of a night person, so that stuff is
always resonated within me. But it's when I started in
law enforcement that it really kind of took off on
its own again, getting calls when you investigate, you know,
like a trespassing call owing to you know, trace a
ghost on a hallway and it disappear at the end

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of the hall and that really that's what got things
ignited about twenty two, twenty three years ago.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I gotta know, I mean, you being a police officer,
how how do your fellow police officers treat you with
what you're doing here?

Speaker 4 (12:11):
The majority have had experiences of themselves. There's always a
few nic sayers who laugh at it, which is to
be expected, but the majority of the ones I know,
in some form or fashion, have had some kind of
experience themselves.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
So they're pretty much all on board watching your content.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, yeah, I would say the majority, you know, really
support what I do. I mean again, there's always some
who don't believe or whatever, but the majority, yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
You know. It's funny because I have a couple of
friends who are Mounties here in town, Royal Canadian mount
of Police, and I have one gentleman there where every
time I see him, he's like, hey, man, do you
have any more sasquatch encounters? And I'll have to fill
them in with what's going on, And long story short,

(13:06):
I asked him, I said, how many paranormal calls do
you get, you know, say the month? And he goes.
You wouldn't believe it. We get at least two or
three a month where people see shadows or creatures walking
in their yards. I'm like, why aren't you calling me?
I said, you guys don't I said, no offense. You
guys do a great job at what you do, but

(13:29):
that isn't your field as it. Call me man, I'll
run out there, I don't care. I'll take care of
it for people. And you know, we have a good
laugh over that. But it amazes me how many police
officers are actually experiencers of the unknown, but most just
do not want to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. And you know, not just law enforcement,
but you know, I've had friends who are AMPA's paramedics,
firefighters and just everyday people you know, who have had
experiences but don't like talking about it. But either they
don't understand it, or they're afraid of the ridicule and

(14:09):
backlash that unfortunately does happen a lot of the time.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Why do you think so many police officers are afraid
to talk about it?

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Well, you know, I think there's a few reasons. You know,
I think that we feel a lot of times that
were kind of held maybe to a higher standard. People
look to us for safety, security, to be rational. Then
you start talking about the supernatural and paranormal and ghost
and you know you worry about people will take you serious.

(14:41):
But you know I learned long ago, at least for myself,
I'll speak the truth. Well no one else will if
that's if I have to do that.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh I get that. Did you ever once question why
you're in this field? Why you do what you do?

Speaker 4 (14:59):
I do or I have? I don't anymore?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
So.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
One of the biggest things about me and my career,
paranormal journey, and my life is I'm a devout Christian
and so it wasn't until I became a Christian about
seventeen eighteen years ago that things really started making sense
to me. And it's like everything just kind of fell

(15:23):
into place after that.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
As you've gone on in your paranormal world and trying
to figure it out being a Christian, I mean, are
you trying to solve the life after death riddle? Are
you trying to learn more about what it's like on
the other side once we criss over?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
No, for me, it's not that, Like I you know,
I believe what the Bible teaches us and I believe
it's to be true, and I understand that's not for everyone,
and I respect everyone's decision to believe or not believe
what they want. So when I began to mix those
two worlds, the paranormal and Christianity, you know, I went

(16:07):
to the Bible. Well, what does the Bible say about
the afterlife and ghost or demons? And then that's where
I draw my conclusion, and I stand firm in what
I believe in.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
And what have you come to that? What conclusion have
you come to?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well, one that's not really popular in the paranormal world.
And I'll say this especially with ghosts, like when people
say they see a great Grandpa was standing in my
bedroom last night. I don't believe human spirits hang around
here once we pass away. I believe in those cases
they are demonic, unless it's in fact, like a residual haunting,

(16:48):
which I believe is more scientific than supernatural.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Well that's interesting. What makes you think that it's not
Grandpa visiting and it's something a little bit more nefarious.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Well, the Bible teaches us that to be absent from
the body is to be present from the Lord. To
be present with the Lord I'm sorry, and I believe
that we don't hang around. I believe that we're doing
here when we pass away, we go on. But the
Bible also talks about the demonic entities that are here
trying to deceive people, and they will do whatever is

(17:23):
necessary to do that to get your attention of what's
really out there. They will disguise themselves as familiar spirits
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I believe that that has happened as well on numerous
occasions with a lot of people. But you know, the
idea that spirits when they when they leave, especially human spirits,
when they leave, that they are going to they are
going to a different place and they're not hanging around
like something else might be. I mean, that's that's tough

(17:59):
to kind of figure out because we really don't know
what's on the other side. We don't know where Heaven is,
we don't know where much is on the other side.
We can only assume. But I mean, have you ever
you know, had to question.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
All of that.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's something that you know, I
get asked pretty much on a daily basis, and something
I've thought a lot about. I prayed a lot about
looking for answers and you know, I think there's maybe
two or three for me options. It's demonic, it's not
human spirits, which I believe is true in most cases.

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Or there are things out there that are not demonic
or human spirits that we just don't know about. The
Bible doesn't teach about them, and we just we don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Being a police officer, what's the scariest paranormal supernatural encounter
you've had while on duty?

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Oh? Good, ques question. I have had several instances like
I have rolled up to a trespassing call and I've
made entry into a building and see someone like at
the end of the hallway around a corner. No one.
It's a dead end. There's no way to get out

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around that corner. No one's there. You'll hear footsteps, see people,
And I couldn't tell you how many times I've had
things like that happen. And you see shadow people, doors
slam in your face, your voice is calling out to you.
I've been physically hit numerous occasions. I could literally which

(19:47):
I actually am writing a book so I could tell
stories like that all day.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, if you don't mind sharing one of those, that
would be absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
One that stands out actually happened in the building I'm
in right now. I'm actually at work, not on the clock,
but I'm at work. So I work at a I
worked at a college campus at police department, City Police Department,
which this campus was essentially the city, and one of
our duties when I worked night shift was to lock

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up the buildings at midnight, which that's when the curfew was.
This one particular night, I was locking up the front
door of this building and on the third floor, I
could hear what sounded like a party going on. I
could hear talking, laughing, sounded like people running just and
so my first thought was, you know, I've caught a

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bunch of these kids out after curfew having a party.
And so I, you know, slowly started going up. It's
on the third floor, and as I got closer, it
got louder, just like you it typically would. And when
I got to where this was coming from, it was
actually a game room that time, this was the early
two thousands, you know, there was pool tables and ping

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pong tables, and so when I got to the doors,
I got my key. Yup, I was trying to be quiet.
I put it in the door I swung the door
open and the lights were off and there wasn't anyone. Everything,
everything was silent. It was there was no one there
but me. Oh my, Yeah, that was one of the

(21:27):
first ones that I ever experienced that really put chills
down my spine.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
What was it like when you opened that door and
there's nobody there?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Oh, It's almost like a punch in the gut, because
you know, I know what I heard like, there was
no mistake. The TV wasn't on, there was no one
else around, and within an instant I knew that this
was something paranormal because this place was notoriously haunted at

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and I'd heard stories on my life, but that was
the first one that really like, oh man, I'm into
something here.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Was Did you go in? Did you investigate?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Or I did?

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:13):
I did step inside. I shined my flashlight just to
make sure. But you know, there are no physical way
that anybody could have got away or there was no
one there.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Man.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Well, I didn't hang around long. I got out of
there pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh I bet you did. I totally wouldn't blame you
for doing that. Did the noise restart once you left?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I didn't hear it. I made my way back downstairs,
and which probably took me, you know, less than a minute.
But I didn't hear it at what time I was
in the stairwell.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh man, holy cow, that's enough to give chills down
the spine.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Oh it did.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
A lot of people claim that when they're driving around
the streets, especially around Halloween. As Halloween approaches, there's always
these legends of the white lady, the lady in the
white gown. Have you ever in your town that you
patrol had that mystery go on?

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, or that or something very similar. I personally have
witness not a lady in white, but again, right out
the window to my right right now, one night, while
I'm patrol, I seen a lady with a purple sweater,
a pair of dark jeans, short brown hair, standing right

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beside the road. Clare's day. She was there, and then
she was But I'm not the only one. There are
other people in this area have seen very similar things.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
My goodness. And who do you report that? You just
kind of bite your tongue and say, oh geez, that
happened again, didn't it?

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Pretty much? I mean, like I said, some of my
fellow officers, coworkers, we talk amongst our salves about we
don't really follow a poet or you know, what do
you say to that? Really?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Well, we're going to go to break here at the
bottom of the hour in about twenty seconds. We're going
to tell people where you work and some of the
creepy areas that you patrol, because you know, the apple
Acians seem to have a reputation and it's a reputation
of high strangeness. It's a reputation of paranormal, supernatural cryptid UFOs.

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And then you get into the feral people that are
running around as well. It's a scary place and I
am so excited to have our guests on tonight. Brandon
Gayheart is here, the Supernatural Sleuth. You could go subscribe
to him on YouTube as we speak. I did. I
hope you do too, The Supernatural Sleuth, And you can

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follow him on social media as well. He's all over
TikTok and Facebook, so make sure you check him on out.
We'll be right back, all right, buddy. That's a good start,

(25:28):
good solid start, my man, Thanks sir. You having fun?

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Oh yeah, I'll have it. I could talk about this
all night.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh man. Well, we're well at least the next ninety
minutes we're going to that's.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
For sure, absolutely absolutely all right.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
We got about five four and a half minutes here, Charlene,
how are you? Nice to see you? And who else
has jumped in here? No, that's about it. That's about it,

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and for our audience, I'm going back out to flight
twenty one on Sunday. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going
to tell you right now, I'm waiting for microphones to
come in. Okay, I got to order up some microphones
so that way. And I'm in a conundrum here because

(26:27):
I still use the iPhone that still has the flat
plug on it, and I haven't jumped up to that
c I think they call it a C cord now
or whatever the hell it is, and I'm thinking I
probably need to upgrade my phone before I get out
there so I can investigate properly. So, yes, thank you

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everybody who's subscribing right now to Brandon's channel. That's awesome
of you guys, Well done, well done, Team Caz. How
are you? Eric is Stover? So yes, I'm going back out.
My friend Mark is going to come with me. You've
seen him on this show before. He's in the chat

(27:10):
room sometimes it's Timber Hunter. We are going out on
Sunday and hopefully Bigfoot doesn't eat us. Well, I'll be
honest with you, if we do get attacked, I'll just
shoot Mark in the leg so that way I can
run away. It's only fair. It really is only fair,

(27:32):
you know. So, but Mark knows the area, he's been
there numerous times with me, so it's like a natural,
just like tim being out there. So we're gonna We're
going to make sure that we have a good time.
And we're losing daylight fast here. We really are losing

(27:54):
daylight fast. My goodness. What's the date, October seventeenth. Well,
in two months and eight days or two months in
three days, when we hit the salstice, it'll be getting
dark here. Sun will be setting it like three forty
five in the afternoon. Creepy pasta. Where are you from,

(28:23):
Jessica Jones. If it happens, it happens, you know, it's
all part of the game. She says, Bigfoot might eat
your ass. Be safe, Dave. If it happens, it happens,
and hopefully they talk dirty to me first. It's all
I'm saying. It's only fair. I'm probably gonna cut that
one up onto a short too, because that's a good

(28:45):
short right there. M Yeah, you're my neighbor from like
thirty nine hundred miles away. If you're in Vermont, Creepy Pasta,
you might want to stop and get some gas. If
you're driving, you might need a tank or two to

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get here. We got just over a minute here in
the studio. How you doing. I'm actually really excited for December,

(29:32):
and not because of Christmas this year, but because my
little town will finally have a McDonald's that's open. We
don't have a McDonald's in my town, Brandon.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
We don't either where I'm from.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yep, Babylon Rose. How you doing? All right? Big thank
you tonight to t Bone for gifting a membership, and
a big thank you to Area fifty four and Creepy
Pasta for the great super chance. It's a wonderful way
to support what we do on the show on a
nightly basis. Everybody, So thank you very very much. I

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got to create a bunch of new swag this weekend. Yeah,
I do note here. Hold on, all right, I'm ready.

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We're coming back here in about eight seconds, and I'm
just gonna reintro the show. Brandon sounds good, Here we go.

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Here comes the second half hour of spaced Out Radio tonight.
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YouTube channel as Brandon Gayheart is here telling us stories
of being an Appalachian cop and a paranormal investigator. Thank
you so much, Brandon. We really appreciate you taking the
time to be here.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
It's my pleasu you're glad to be here.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
All right? Whereabouts are you?

Speaker 6 (32:11):
So?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
People? There goes my Canadian accent.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Right there?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Whereabouts are you? In order for us to find where
you're investigating the weird and strange.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
I'm from the mountains of eastern Kentucky, right in the
thick of it, born and raised there, born and raised
lived here on my.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Man man, So you know that area like the back
of your hand pretty well.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Are there places, after this long of serving your community
and being a paranormal investigator that you just will not
drive alone?

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Well, there are certainly places I don't like to go alone.
You know, Apple Atras We've mentioned it's known for cryptids
and ghosts and everything spooky, and that's all true. I mean,
they're absolutely beautiful. If you've never visited, you know, they're
breathtaking if you've never seen them. There's you know, not

(33:14):
every time you go out in the mountains something spoky happens.
But there are places that people do avoid, you know,
just because if nothing else, the feeling you get when
you get there.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Do you always feel that you're being watched, whether you're
on duty or whether you're just walking around, You know,
in certain areas. I mean, you have enough paranormal experience
now to know if you're being watched or not.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Not all the time, but you definitely know when you are.
You know one thing I talk a lot about on
my social media, like if you're out in nature, if
you're out in the mountains and they go silent, you know,
because you know, people may not realize if you never
been out in Niger. It's loud with the birds, the insects,
all the animals. There's a lot going on, but you

(34:07):
don't really realize it until it stops, and then you
know for certain, for certain, you're not alone at that point.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Growing up near the apple Acians, this is an area
in a territory that seems to scare a lot of people.
There is a ton of stories. A good friend of
mine on this show, Christian McLeod, he lives in Georgia
and and he is near the Appalachians as well, and

(34:36):
you know, he kind of says, man, when you go there,
you just never know what to expect. You don't know
if it's going to be feral people. You don't know
if it's going to be ghosts and settlers or First
Nations people, or or whether the cryptids are going to
come out and play like Bigfoot or the Little People
or any monster in between. Is it really that active

(35:00):
for the appal Ascians.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yes and no. I mean, like I said, I've lived
here my whole life. I'm a hunter fisherman. You know,
I've spent a lot of days and nights out in
the mountains and not there. You know, it's not all
the time. There's not something all the time that happens,
but if you spend enough time, more than likely you

(35:24):
will experience something on some level.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Why do you think that Mountain Pass is so haunted
and so weird?

Speaker 4 (35:35):
You know, the truth is nobody really knows for sure
or other you know, Apple Atches one of the oldest
in the world, you know, and over the centuries. You know,
there's a lot of good things that have happened, a
lot of bad things, which is true with anywhere. But
you know, I think that's one of the greatest mysteries
of it all is no one really knows why. But

(35:57):
it's true.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
The spirits and the hauntings that are there for people
who may not understand. What do you what's normally haunting?
Is it? Is it like pilgrims and settlers or is
it a lot of just bad spirits like windy goes
and skin walkers.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Uh, dude, it'ss like a buffet honestly. I mean, I've
heard favorite story. You can imagine from your typical ghost story.
You know, you'll see what looks like a person, only
to realize it's not when they vanish or walk through
a tree. You know, you hear the Bigfoot stories, the
dog Man, the Windy Goes. And something that does come

(36:40):
out on my radar within the last couple of years
is the feral people, which seems to be more prominent
in the Smoky Mountain region Tennessee, North Carolina than anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Right, the feral people are apparently there are these groups
of I guess you could call them, you know, colonizers,
because that's what they're doing, and they're creating these groups.
A lot of people who go missing are believed to
be kidnapped by these groups there. I've even heard stories

(37:18):
that there are a lot of police officers who really
don't want to deal with those cases because if you
go searching for those people, they've naturalized themselves to nature,
much like an animal, and you don't know what kind
of booby traps are set up. You don't know what
they have for weaponry, because they've broken into vehicles, they

(37:39):
broke it into cabins, and homes and others to arm themselves.
What do you make of these feral people?

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Well, like I said, you know, I've just started kind
of looking into this over the past couple of years.
And like I said, the Smoky Mountains in Tennessee, North Carolina,
which is protected land, it's a national park. It makes
sense if feral people do exist, that's where they would
be because the land is protected, there's no hunters, it's

(38:11):
very dense forest. There are places I'm sure that people
have never even been. And there's a theory out there
that the government, as you kind of mentioned, know these
people exist, but they kind of keep them in these
protected areas national parks to kind of keep a handle
on it the best they can. But sometimes things happen,

(38:34):
and that's where stories come from.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
What are some of the stories you've heard about these
Have you heard about these people about people being kidnapping
or have you ever on your side of the appal
Asians investigated these strange missing people cases.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
On my end, I haven't personally. I mean, I've obviously
investigated missing people, but nothing to make me believe it
was feral people. But in the Smoky Mountains, one of
the most famous cases was in nineteen I was sixty nine.
A young boy named Dennis Martin who was six years old.

(39:13):
He vanished pretty much right in front of his family.
They were playing hide and go seek, and they literally
took their eyes off of him for a matter of seconds.
And it was so inde It was the biggest search
and rescue ever in American history at that point. The
green Berets, the United States Army green Berets even helped

(39:35):
search for this kid. And there was never a trace
ever of him anywhere.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, we've had a couple of people on here, Christian
McLeod and a good friend of ours, Steve. He's come
on a number of times talking about the Dennis Smartan
case and how this case just seemed to really affect
a lot of people. It happened way before you or
I were even born. But you know, one of the
sad cases that Steve has told us was that, you know,

(40:06):
Dennis's dad, before he passed away, every knock on the door,
he was still hopeful that it would be Dennis showing
up saying hey Dad, I'm home.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Yeah, but you know, Dennis isn't the only one. There
have been others also.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Is it a lot of children that go missing there
or is it hikers or fishermen or campers.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
It's a mix, you know, Dennis is the only child
I know of. I know. There was a young girl
who was maybe like seventeen sixteen seventeen, was on a
school trip. I think they were in the Klingman's Dome
area of the park and she vanished. He rap, you know,

(40:49):
all her classmates were walking the trail and they seen
her than they did and she disappeared. And there's been
reports of an older lady, not old, but you know
the sixty euro vanish without a trace. So it's just
like there create, you know, opportunity, just whenever they had
the opportunity to get someone, they do.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Do you think then that a lot of these happenings,
when they do happen, is that maybe it is something
supernatural that's happening rather than something that is something that
is more human happens since right.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
I mean, it's certainly possible, you know, I think so,
you know, there's always the possibility that some of these
people wanted to vanish, you know, especially the older people.
But is it possible there was supernatural supernatural elements? Yeah, definitely,
but for one reason or another in that region of
Tennessee and North Carolina. You know, I've been told stories,

(41:59):
and I have old stories on my social media of
park rangers who have had encounters with these people and
swear that they're true. You know that they do exist.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Man Man, as an officer, have you ever had encounters
with any encryptid type creatures while on duty?

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Well, I don't know. I hadn't experienced. One time. Early
in my career, I would go I worked nightshift for years,
and there's a baseball field for this college. It's on
top of a mountain. It's very peaceful, secluded. Quite When
I didn't have anything going on, I'd go up there

(42:47):
and just relax. I used to smoke. I would get
out of my cruiser, turn the radio up, stand outside
and smoke. Now, one night, I had done this many times,
but I leaned up in front of my cruiser just
smoking a cigarette, and about eighty to one hundred yards
in front of me, something came tearing down this mountain.

(43:09):
It sounded like a landslide or a mudslide, sounded like
trees falling, but it wasn't like coming at me at
the speed of a car. Traveling and there was absolutely
nothing there. I don't know what it was. I've never
heard anything like that in my life, and there have

(43:31):
been people in this area who have, like credible people
who have encountered bigfoot. So I don't know that it
was a bigfoot. It could be bigfoot, it could have
been something totally explainable, but I can't explain it.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
That's that's gotta be weird, man. I mean, how do
you not throw your cigarette on the ground at that
time and run back into your car for safety?

Speaker 7 (43:57):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (43:58):
I did, and I did. Yeah, I mean I did
shine my light for a moment, hoping to see a
huge rock or trees, but nothing. I even went back
the next day when it was daylight to see and
there was nothing out of place. There wasn't a tree down, nothing.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
So what do you think it was?

Speaker 4 (44:21):
I have no idea. I feel like it was supernatural
on some level, be it a cryptid or goals whatever.
I don't know. I didn't do that for a while though, No, No.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I bet. But I guess when you're on patrol you
have to go into those areas because it's part of
the duty.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, you do, thankfully. That's a spot where we don't
really have to visit that often. I mean I have
been there many times since then with no issues at all,
but that one night. I don't know what was in
those mountains with me, but I wasn't alone.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Have you, personally outside of work, had any cryptid encounters.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
I had one encounter in Western Kentucky that I believe
might have been encrypted. I don't know, probably close to
twenty years ago. So my family and I go for
the last almost thirty years to Western Kentucky, which is
much more a flight land known for the huge deer population.

(45:33):
We hunt on a farm done there, and I was
hunting an area we called the swamp because it was
essentially a swamp, and I'd heard tales of Bigfoot. My
cousin swears to this day he seen bigfoot in that area.
But I was pulling up in the middle of the
day to get in my tree stand. I was on

(45:54):
a four wheel or ATV and I was going to
finish my cigarette before I got in my tree stand,
and all of a sudden, there was a noise. It
was like a guttural growl. It sounded like maybe thirty
yards to my right, and I kept expecting to see
something walk out, then it was behind me, then it

(46:17):
was on my left side, then it was in front
of me. And this was a very dense, thick grown
up so you didn't have great visibility. And I had
never heard anything like that in my life. I don't
know what it was. I looked at my tree stand,
thinking should I get up the tree or should I
just leave? I just left because I had no clue

(46:38):
what it was. But I did have a friend who
was about probably one hundred and fifty two hundred yards
away in his tree stand, and he heard the exact
same thing.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Man, See, I've heard those stories. I'm a hunter as well,
and i've heard those stories, you know, from around North America,
mainly in the US, where a lot of trees sat
up here. We don't get a lot of people hunting
out of tree stands, right, you know, we we kind
of we're stupid. We bogged down here, all right, We

(47:10):
find our spot earlier. We just pray that, you know,
a boose doesn't sneak up on us, because you know,
they're kind of dangerous, right yeah. And nobody around here ever,
seems to get the tags for the most so that
kind of sucks.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Too.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
But yeah, but nonetheless, I mean I've heard a number
of stories where these cryptids seem to hang around these
tree stands and hunters, you know, especially if there's bait
stations out or something along those lines. Have you heard
those stories before of those of that kind of incidents

(47:45):
happening with the cryptids.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, I have. And like I said, my cousin who
he's more economical to me, he's my neighbor. He U been,
you know, a prominent figure in my life since I
was a child, very serious hunter, and he swears to
this day. I was actually talking to him about it
about a week ago the same farm where we hunt.

(48:12):
This would have been probably eight or ten years ago.
He said. He was sitting in his tree stand one
day while we were there, middle of the day, just
like I was, and he watched a bigfoot. He said.
It was the reddish brown fur probably eight nine feet tall.
He said, I watched it walk out of a pine
thicket to my right until it went out of sight.

(48:35):
He said, you know, there's so many things that go
through your mind. Is it someone in a suit a costume,
or is it you know, because that's something you always hear. Well,
if big foot thrill. Won't they just shoot it? You know?
I think in the back of most people's mind, you're
that's always there, is that somebody just dressed up in
a costume, you know, But where we were at I

(48:58):
don't think so, because it's mobury dance, and I believe
he's telling the truths he's saying Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I had a buddy of mine. I was talking to
him today and his name's Roger, and a couple months
ago Roger and I got together and he's like, you
really believe in this bigfoot stuff. I'm like, yeah, man.
I was telling him about some of the places where
I go and the experiences we have. So in the

(49:27):
back of his mind he has this, and a couple
of weeks ago, he's out hunting with his wife out
in the backwoods here back of his property, which goes
onto what we call crown land, which you guys call
federal land, Okay, and he's like, Dave, we came between
these two swamps and going to my special deer hunting spot.

(49:52):
And he goes, all of a sudden, we started hearing
these strange noises and he goes, all of a sudden,
everything you said clicked in my head, and that's when
the tree knocks started. He goes, we heard these three
loud tree knocks. I said, well, what did you do?

Speaker 3 (50:06):
He goes.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
I got the hell out of there because you freaked
me out right. And I'm like, well, you're gonna send
me there? Right? He goes, Oh yeah, he goes, I'm
not going to take you there, but you know, I'm like,
you're going back? He goes, not to that spot, right.
And Roger's a guy where he never believed, Like, I

(50:27):
live in a logging community. I don't know if your
community is a logging community or not, but I live
in a logging community, and a lot of the loggers
they're pretty tough forward people. You know, they work hard,
they play hard, and they they love their families. That's
kind of the attitude up here. And a lot of

(50:50):
these guys, if you get the right ones, they'll tell
you about their stories. Logging truck drivers have a lot
of incredible stories up here, and I would assume down
there with the hard working blue collar people, you know,
once you get them talking, you get some incredible stories
down there.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Oh yeah, definitely. You know one thing that's big around
here or there, which logging is, but it's coal mines,
which it's not like it used to be. But you know,
I've heard a lot of stories from these guys who
literally are miles underground, underground coal miners, and like you know,

(51:32):
there should be nothing, you know, eight or ten miles underground,
no kind of animal or definitely not a person just
wandering around. But they can tell stories that will make
your hair stand up. And these are the same type
of guys, you know, no nonsense, hard working, you know,

(51:53):
love of your family type dudes. And they can tell
stories and make your hair stand up. But a lot
of them don't talk about it. Most of them don't
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
How do you get that conversation going with these guys?

Speaker 4 (52:08):
You know, usually it's just has to be someone you're
close with, a family member or you know, someone you
went to school with, someone that will open up to you.
You know, I think a lot of your old timers
that have passed on, you know, back in the you know,
early nineteen hundreds and the they wouldn't, I don't think,
really talk about it. But I think some of the generation,

(52:32):
more my age, are all more open about it. And
you know, I've heard some stories, but for the most part, though,
they don't open up a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Is it one of those things where you just don't
talk about it?

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Yeah, pretty much. I mean, like I said, occasionally you'll
find a couple that will a little bit, but for
the most part, they don't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
For me, the way it happens in our community is
I've kind of developed the reputation not as the weird
guy in town, but the guy who who talks about
all this in town. And it's funny because I will
get people coming up to me saying, Hey, are you
that ghost guy or you that bigfoot guy? And I'll
be like, yeah, do you mind if I tell you

(53:20):
a story?

Speaker 6 (53:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Or if you're meeting them for the first time, they're
like they're like, you know, like I'll go up to somebody, sovihy,
you're a hunter. You ever see anything strange out in
the forest, and they'll be you know, they'll give you
the what's strange? You know? I found a you know,
a weird bear print one day where the toes were crooked. No, no,

(53:43):
anything strange. And then when they finally catch on to
what you're saying. It's amazing what people will tell you
when they realize that they're not going to be ridiculed
for it.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Yeah, definitely. And I said, I think it could be
the difference like now there's a lot of ghosts or
bigfoot shows on TV. It's not look frowned on as
much more people do talk about it. But you know,
back forty fifty plus years ago, that stuff wasn't around,
so it was almost like very taboo. People just didn't

(54:14):
it didn't happen. No, that's one of the that's one
of the sayings here in apple Atia, like if you
heard something or you've seen something, no, you didn't, didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
What is with we got twenty seconds or so or
maybe forty seconds? What's with that attitude that if you
saw something, no, you didn't.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
You know, I guess if you acknowledge it, it just
makes it real. If you just nonchalantly nope, it didn't happen,
that I don't think it makes it any less real.
But for some people they don't talk about it or
they didn't see it, they didn't hear it.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Wow, I guess you know what, it's a safety because
it's you don't talk about it, it didn't happen. And
that way you don't have to ever talk about it again. Brandon,
I'm gonna get you to hold on right there. Hard
to believe. We're already through one hour here on spaced
Out Radio. The supernatural sleuth Brandon Gayheart.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Is our guest.

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Speaker 1 (55:43):
All right, we are clear, Brandon. I'm just gonna put
you in the background here for a couple of minutes.
I'm gonna go refill my water. I'll be right back. Okay,
sounds good. You're right back. Everybody radio when to go?

Speaker 7 (56:17):
Ut h m, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Back, Let's bring in Brandon. Brandon, how you doing doing well, sir?
Good and well? Having fun? Oh yeah, I have been
good good. I'm so happy you're here, buddy. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Oh it's my pleasure to be here.

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He is a police officer in the Appalascians in Kentucky.

(01:03:05):
His name is Brandon Gayheart and we're glad to have
him here because his reels and his stories of the
paranormal are absolutely incredible. And Brandon, we want to say
thank you again for coming on tonight's show.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Thank you, Sarah. It's a pleasure and honor to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
All right, I'm looking at your YouTube channel as we
speak here, and you've done an episode recently about you know,
kind of being near cabins and true encounters that you
have had. You know, you mentioned earlier the scariest one
you've had, But what's one that maybe involves maybe a
UFO or a ghost that just really really, you know,

(01:03:45):
got to your head to you, what the heck is this?

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Oh? Good question. I will say the scariest thing that
has happened to me. It didn't happen directly to me,
but I was there, Me and probably five or six
of my friends were We were done a paranormal investigation,

(01:04:12):
but not like a real serious one. It was just
more or less a bunch of guys like, hey, let's
just go sit in this haunted place see if anything happens.
And this, you know, been many years ago, and the
guy that happened this happened to he's now a Kentucky
State trooper. At the time, he was probably about seventeen,

(01:04:34):
but he was always terrified of everything spooky. He didn't
like one ghost hunting, and he didn't like anything about it.
So we were in this place, this building. It's an auditorium,
like a big stage and the cat walk and chairs,
and we were just sitting on the stage with the
lights out. He's sitting to my eye, and after a

(01:04:56):
few minutes he starts talking about he's seeing a face
like in front of his He said, do you see that?
And I might know I don't see anything. I said,
what are you seeing? And he described what we would
think a devil face with like the horns, and oh wow,
he said it was like it was made out of smoke.

(01:05:18):
But he said this thing was just like right in
his face. And I just tried to make him feel better.
And you know, it's probably just your eyes adjusting to
the darkness. And so this goes on for fifteen or
twenty minutes, and ever so often I would ask him
do you see it? And he's like, yeah, it's right there.
And after about twenty minutes, he gets up and walks

(01:05:40):
across the room, which at the time I didn't even
really catch, but that was very not normal for him
to do because he didn't like to go anywhere by himself.
While we were doing this, and he had walked over,
and another one of my friends came to me. He
said his name was Michael. We caught him Mikey. He said,

(01:06:02):
go over there and stand by Mikey. I'm like, what's up?
He said, just go over there. So I get up
and this is pitch black darkness when I make my
way to where he's at, and within probably eight feet
of him, I could feel coldness. It's just like the
temperature dropped ten degrees and just bubble up surrounding it.

(01:06:26):
And he's just standing looking at the wall, not doing anything,
total darkness, and I asked, I said, are you okay?
And at this he sounded perfectly normal, fine, like yeah,
I'm fine. Like what are you doing? He said, I'm
just standing here. I was like, are you okay? Just
it's something was very wrong and off, and he's like,

(01:06:48):
I'm fine. And I just grabbed him by his arm
and walked him back to the stage area and I said,
are you still seeing that face? And he was just
non shot. Oh yeah yeah. So I had him sit
down on the stage. I said, do you still see
this thing? He said yeah, yeah, no big deal. I said,
where's it that and he pointed beside of him. He said, oh,

(01:07:11):
it's sitting right here. And I shined my flashlight on
his face. And when I say his eyes were black,
I don't mean like the movies where his whole eyeball
was black, but his eyes were very unnatural. They were
darker than they should have been. And I said to me,

(01:07:32):
I was like, we've got to get you out of here.
He's like, no, I'm fine, I don't want to hate.
We immediately took him outside. We had to pretty much
drag him out, and we began praying over him, and
it took just a few minutes. And it's just like
he snapped out of it. And he didn't have any
clue of what happened. The only thing he remembered was

(01:07:52):
sitting beside me and seeing that face. And that was
like a Saturday night. That Sunday morning, he was sitting
the church. I don't know what happened. Something. I'm not
saying he was possessed but I think he certainly had
an attachment. I will say that's probably the scariest thing
I have personally witnessed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
No kidding, that would be absolutely creepy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Oh it was. It was terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah I could. I could totally see that. Yeah, totally
see that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
You know, I've had a lot of things happen to me,
just like jump scares or you know, creepy things. But
like something took over his body at least to some
degree that night. And again I'm not saying he was possessed,
but he was definitely had some kind of attachment or

(01:08:51):
was ohpressed, something was going on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Goodness me, goodness me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Yeah, what's the most haunted location in your little town?

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
You know that you hear stories of a few places
here and there, But I personally believe it's where I work,
where I'm at right now. Honestly, this is one little
smaller area for me personally, I have encountered more things
and no people who have encountered things and this one
mile radius than anywhere else. What happens there, well, you

(01:09:37):
name it, the place I work, this college. It's kind
of the hub of things for some reason or another,
which you know, if you'll look at hauntings. Schools have
always been hotspots for or normal for one reason or another.
But even within this, like I said, one mile radius

(01:09:59):
there and everything from ghost, bigfoot, other kinds of cryptids.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Uh man, you name it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Like UFO, sidings orbs, you name it, it's happened right here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Has there been a lot of UFO and alien activity there?

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
Well, I wouldn't say a lot that I know of,
But I do know people, reputable people, people I trust
and know who are telling me the truth, who have
said they have one seen what they described as UFO
or UAPs right here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
M hmm. Do you ever get called O to cases
about that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
I haven't personally know, you know, I've had again, just
people come to me, not you know, trying to file
a report, but just like you know, like, man, I've
seen something last night and I went out to feed
my dog or whatever. But I've never responded to like
an alleged UFO or UAP thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Do you get a lot of people talking about alien
encounters or abductions?

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
You know, over the years, the more last several years,
it's something you hear more of, you know. I don't
know if it's because it's more it's in the new
you know, the United States government more or less it's
confirmed that they are beings or UAP UFOs, So I

(01:11:39):
don't know if it's just the you know, people are
hearing it and thinking, okay, well other people having these experiences.
The government's acknowledging these things are real. So you know,
now I can speak up. So yeah, I mean I
think you hear it more often now than you used to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
This may sound like a silly question, and I'm gonna
ask it anyways. As a police officer, do you or
your department have a protocol for UFOs in case something happened?

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
No, we don't, uh which I work at a very
small department and most of the calls we get, like
I said, there have been a lot that what I
would or people would classify as a ghost or you know, supernatural.
But we don't have a you know, a UFO u

(01:12:34):
AP type plan. But you know, the way things are looking,
it may be something we should should definitely consider.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Oh for sure. For sure. Who's the most famous ghost
in your town?

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
Oh? Man, I don't know that we really have a
famous one, one of the most haunted, famously haunted Lows,
which I won't say famous. But so there's a place.
It's actually just across the mountain for where I'm at
right now. Back sixty seventy years ago, it was called

(01:13:13):
the Blue Moon Cafe. Or but Charles Manson when he
was a little boy, his mother worked at this Blue Moon.
It was more or less a bar. She was a
lady of the night and a bar hostess. And but
that's well documented that Charles Manson did. She actually traded

(01:13:36):
or sold him to someone for something, but ended up
getting him back. But this is documented. It's true. The
Blue Moon Cafe is one of the most notoriously for
you know, there's no rumors of Charles Manson himself haunting it,
but just because of who he is, I guess it's
kind of notorious because he spent time here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, you go looking for bigfoot in
your area, this is something that you have interest in
as well. For you and the interest that you have
in this subject. Is there a lot of evidence of
bigfoot activity there?

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
I mean yeah, I mean I think so, you know,
there are people who the common things, the tree knocks
and the you know, the typical things you expect with
Bigfoot that you hear pretty much everywhere. But what got
me interested in Bigfoot is are you familiar with the
show Expedition Bigfoot? Yes? Okay, So my buddy, my best friend,

(01:14:46):
Zach Hall, he was Russell Akord's camera man for the
first three or four seasons, and that's how I got
into Bigfoot. I got to know where Russell and he
and I and Zach have been on hunts are Sales
paranormal Bigfoot and so they actually is the one who
taught me a lot about Bigfoot. I had never really

(01:15:06):
personally went out actively searching for him until they got
me into it. And I asked Zach, you know, when
he was working, I was like, so is this all
for TV? Or do you guys really encounter with the things?
And he's wares to this day that what they film
legit happens. It's not for TV. They really experience it,

(01:15:30):
and I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Yeah, it's amazing when you're in an area where there
is the the potential of sasquatch there, it's I don't
even know how to explain it, man, because you know,
I mean a lot of people will not believe you
with the encounters that you hear of but you just

(01:15:55):
got to go with it, you know what I'm saying.
You just got to go and and and try and
make it work, make it happen, and look for the
little clues and the little shreds of evidence that might
be there for you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
I mean, if you don't know what you're looking at,
you're definitely not going to know if it's there or not,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Yeah, definitely, And the most credible bigfoot encounter at that
for me. So my former chief, who was the chief
of police, he left a couple of years ago. His mother,
who lived to be almost one hundred. She passed away

(01:16:39):
probably six seven years ago. Very sweet Christian lady, what
you would think of, just salt of the earth. Pretty
beautiful little old lady that you thank, your typical Christian
woman till the day she passed away. And she told

(01:16:59):
her son, who was my chief at the time, when
she was younger, and this literally was maybe a half
mile up the road from where I'm at now. You know,
back then, your nearest neighbor may be a half mile away,
very rural area. But she said to her neighbor, and
she witnessed this. He and his family had went inside

(01:17:24):
for the night, and as they were getting ready for bed,
they heard something on the front porch and the dad went,
I guess, expecting a neighbor, opened the door, only to
find She described it, because at this time, this would
have been probably in the nineteen fifties early sixties, a

(01:17:45):
very hairy man looked like a monkey. And I don't know,
I don't remember what transpired, but according to her, this
dad picked up an axe which he had been chopping
firewood and took this thing out. I don't know if
it was aggressive toward him or what. The next day

(01:18:06):
he went into town and got the sheriff, and I
think someone was maybe like the health department, and she
witnessed she seen this creature after it was passed away,
and told them what happened. And later that day there
were some people, I don't know who they were, she said,

(01:18:28):
from the state. I don't know if that could have
been state please or some kind of government official came
took this thing and they told them they would let
them know what it was later on, but they never
did hear from him again. And she swore until the
day she passed away, she promised, she swore that was true.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Oh my my, oh my. So what do you think
of ghost I know you said that you believe that
are put you know, more demon like, but I mean,
there's so much energy that is walking through your area,
you know, from past settlers, from farmers and First Nations people.

(01:19:14):
Do you think that maybe these ghosts are maybe people
from the past with residual energy to the area.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
You know, I do think that residual hauntings could really
be a thing. You know, you know, it's almost like
a moment in time that's just on loot. They're not
intelligent hauntings. When that happens, it's just the same thing
on repeat. You know, the same ghost or person is
doing the exact same thing. They don't communicate, you can't

(01:19:47):
interact with them. Again, to me, that is more scientific
than paranormal, you know, because of the energy you know
can't be destroyed, so you know, it makes the and
that that is possible. But you know, one of the
things that I always go back to is, you know,

(01:20:07):
the devil doesn't chase you with horns and a pitch fork,
because that would turn everybody to God if everybody believed
he was real or knew he was real. But they
will appear in ways or as people who you know.
I see this all the time on TV. These ghost
hunters on TV will say, use my energy, you know,

(01:20:29):
you know, I believe you lived here one hundred years ago.
You were you're the guy who built this house. Used
channel my energy to manifest to do this or do that.
And I think that's what they want. They want you
to open up, and you're not going to open up
if they look like what we think a demon might
look like. But if they look like a farmer from
one hundred years ago, it's pretty harmless. But they look

(01:20:52):
like your great grandpa. So that's, you know, typically how
I think they manifest.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Let's get some audience questions here, because they are starting
to build up and I always like to get some
audience participation here. We're really kick things off with one
of our longtime listeners, t Bone here, who is asking Brandon.
I asked this question a lot. What was your I
know what I saw moments?

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
I would say, you know, my when I was four
years old, the first thing I encountered paranormal. I seen
a Victoria era man, monopoly man. That's what I think of.
It kind of looked like when I was four. I yeah,
there was no mistake. I didn't dream it, I didn't

(01:21:42):
imagine it. I sing that man clear as I see
you right now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
How about as an adult, what would be your moment
like that? Oh that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
I've seen so many things, but the realest thing that
I know. You know, I talked a minute ago about
my friend who had the attachment. I know that night
that something dark had its agree upon him, no question.
M m m.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
All right, let's sneak in another one here. Let's go
to Joe here, ap Elisha. Whistle in the woods. Keep
your windows open at night. If somebody calls you from
the woods, go check it out. Lol.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Yeah, I think that's opposite of what you're supposed to do.
Don't whistle in the woods, pose your curtains at night,
and never go look if someone calls your name.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Yeah that's well, let's let's talk about this for a
little bit. For people who may not know what why
should you not whistle in the woods.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
Well, you know, you know a lot of this is
just folk or you know. I don't know where it
came from originally, but I think the idea behind it is,
you know, there are just spirits out there just looking
for the slightest bit of invitation. And so if you're whistling,
something's going to whistle back or kind of it kind

(01:23:20):
of falls in the same category as if something calls
your name or screens for help. You don't go looking
for it because it's just trying to draw your attention to,
you know, ultimately draw you deeper into the forest to
what end. I don't know, but a lot of people
go missing here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Then I've heard voices in the forest before. M mean too, okay,
tell us your story about that. Good about a minute togo.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
Oh, well, you know, I've had that happen several occasions. Nothing.
It's almost to the where you can't really make out
what they were saying, but it sounded like someone either
yelling wanting me to respond. I couldn't tell if they
were yelling for help or just but I've heard like

(01:24:15):
one voice talking, and I've heard what sounded like a
group of people talking, you know. And my best explanation
is they want you to go investigate, you know, what
is that There shouldn't be anyone else out here, So
I'll go a little bit deeper into the forest. I'll
go looking for this noise or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Yeah, man, could you understand the words they were saying?

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
Not really? I mean occasionally there would be a clear word,
but nothing defindit of like you know, help, I'm lost,
or I'm heard, nothing like that, but just it sounded
I had the feeling of like it just wanted me
to go investigate, like you know, who's out here? There
shouldn't be anybody on my property. But I just it's

(01:25:03):
like there was an invisible wall I knew not to
go past.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Well, let's hold you right there. We have the supernatural
sleuth Brendan Gayheart here for another thirty minutes on spaced
Out Radio, telling stories, taking questions from our audience. It's
a paranormal night here on spaced Out Radio.

Speaker 8 (01:25:29):
You're listening to space Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
All right, we are clear. This is awesome. Man, I
love it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
You know, some people don't like to hear about the paranormal,
but it's something and I can talk about all day.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Oh me too, man, me too.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
Let's go here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
I want to just as follow up a couple more
things with this question here, So I'm just gonna leave
this question up. If you guys have questions for Brandon,
please put a big capital letters. It's easier for me
to read them. And I appreciate that the audience is

(01:26:46):
loving you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Well, I appreciate that. It's uh man, I appreciate everyone
who's went and followed me on my socials. That truly
means a lot. You know, I never would have dreamed
I would have had you know, over me, and people
follow me now that's mind bow. And I don't know
why anyone wants to hear me, to be honest, but
I'm grateful for each and everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Yeah, man, you do good work.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
Well, I try I do work. I hope it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
I don't know how do you pick your stories? Like
you just grab a story and kind of run with
it and then kind of dare eat a little bit
of it?

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
Well? I mean yeah, most of the ones I share
is stuff that people send to me emails or dms,
and uh, you know, some of them just stand out
more than others. And you know, something I tell people
I can't you know the finish? Will you say, yeah,
that's so ge it Sometimes it's fake, I'm sure, but
you know, I share it and leave it up to
everyone to decide for themselves. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
That's awesome. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Yeah, yeah, I for the people that do. People in
the chat room have no idea what a squatch is.
I know what a sasquatch is, but I don't know
what a squatch is. I remember talking to the late

(01:28:17):
doctor John Bindernagel back in twenty fifteen, and he had
heard that I had a sasquatch encounter with two creatures
within one hundred feet of me, and he like, he
literally wanted to leave this conference for me to take
him to that to that property where it happened. And

(01:28:40):
so we just started bsing our way in the conversation
and I said to him, so, what do you think
this word squatch? And he literally it was kind of
heartbreaking a little bit because he literally stood up straight
eight he sighed, and he said, seventy years of research

(01:29:06):
down the toilet because of one word.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
I can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Yeah, And ever since then, I banned the word squatch
on this show and in the chat room.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Right, that's fair, dude. I don't blame you. Yeah, now,
I get well, I get what you're saying. I mean,
you know, I don't are you was you familiar with
doctor Jeff Maldrum.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Yeah, I got I got to speak at a conference
with him last year. I got to meet him a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
Yeah, I got to speak with him at the Smoky
Mountain Bigfoot Conference. It's passed July. He was a great guy,
very knowledgeable, he was. It was a loss to the community,
you know, Yes when he passed, a lot of the
pioneers or what I call pioneers, unfortunately, you know, have
passed and or getting older, and that's it's said. You know,

(01:30:00):
I hope people keep, you know, doing the work.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
And the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
I agree you. One of my good friends is one
of those gentleman he's and is just getting into his
seventies now, Grant Cameron in the UFO world, and he
is like an idol and mentor of mine in this field.
And and you know, I know he's been having some
health issues and just the thought of potentially, you know,

(01:30:28):
losing that contact, like a guy who really helped me
break out, it would destroy me. It would destroy me
like losing my own father. You know what I'm saying, Sally, Elka,
how are you? We're gonna come back in ten seconds?
Thank you to Erica Creepy pasta area fifty four for
the super chats and t bone. Thank you very much
for the gifted membership. We appreciate you. Here we go

(01:31:09):
with the second half of spaced Out Radio tonight. Good
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Final time tonight, we bring in our new friend Brandon

(01:31:55):
Gayheart here. He has a great YouTube channel called the
Supernatural Sli. You can find them on TikTok, you can
find them on Instagram, you can find them on Facebook.
Dude has over a million subscribers in total following his
paranormal world and if you like those shorts, this is
the guy who is going to tell you creepy stories.

(01:32:15):
Welcome back, branded Thank you sir. What do you prefer?
Do you prefer the TikTok? Do you prefer YouTube?

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Well? I started on TikTok and I really just now
within the last few months started laying into Facebook and Instagram.
It just kind of blew up overnight, and YouTube's kind
of doing the same. It's a whole new base that
it's on, though YouTube is a little different.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
But I'm arnin man trying to figure out the algorithms.
That's a whole different story right there. How often are
you putting out new videos?

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
Oh? I try to do at least two shorts per
day here. Recently I've been doing three a day on
and I'm trying to get into the habit of doing
one long form content on YouTube per weight, which I'm
just now getting into that. But it takes a lot

(01:33:14):
of time. It's for when you're a one man band.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Oh dude, you could tell me how to do it,
because I do this show three hours a night, and
I know, in order to engage our YouTube audience, we
got to start doing these these shorts, and man, trying
to find the time of day to do it it's like,
because I work a daytime job too, I'm kind of

(01:33:39):
a workaholic, and it's it's like, man, like, what do
you do? So it's really interesting, very interesting, and you
should be proud of what you did though, because you know,
nobody ever, you know, in our generations, you know, millennial
and Generation X, I mean, we don't, you know, grow

(01:34:01):
up wanting to be a YouTube influencer or TikTok influencer,
and you just decided to give it a shot and boom,
it took off. I mean, that's just wonderful watching you
do that. It's got to be fun for you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
It is, and I've been very blessed with it. And
I said earlier my best friend Zach Hall. Give a
lot of credit to him. He's the one who pushed me.
I've never was never the guy who wanted to be
in front of a camera. I don't look good in
front of a camera, I don't sound good. But I
always felt like I had a bois I wanted to share.

(01:34:36):
And he finally one day just cornering me and he's like,
we're starting today. You're starting TikTok. I didn't know anything
about TikTok, but you know, in about three months I
was monetized on TikTok and then it just kind of
snowballed from there.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
It's amazing, amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Let's get back to Joe's question, because right before the break,
I wanted to know about what happened when you whistle
in the woods, because there's three things in the appal
Astians you're not supposed to do. You're not supposed to
whistle in the woods. You're not supposed to keep your
windows open at night. And if you hear somebody calling
you from the woods, you'd never go check it out.
We learned about the whistling, what about keeping your windows

(01:35:17):
open to day? What if it's a muggy night.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
You know, I turn on the ACA myself. You know,
I think the window thing, the curtains. You know, if
you've ever spent a night in Appalachia, in the mountains anyway,
they're creepy. I mean, there's a lot of scary things
that aren't even paranormal. You know, a lot of animals,

(01:35:41):
a lot of things you don't necessarily want to say.
You know, if you wake up at three am and
get a drink of water and look out your window
and see eyes staring back at you, be it an
animal or a ghost or whatever. But you know, some
people live by that religiously. While I mean I personally
I don't close my curtains at night, but I probably

(01:36:04):
should to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Are you are you living like do you have? Are
you on the outskirts of a forest or something along
those sanes?

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
Oh? I mean I live right in the middle of
the Appatrian mountains. I mean I'm surrounded by mountains on
each side. So I mean, yeah, I mean I'm not
up in the mountains. I live in a rural area,
but there's you know, businesses and a lot of houses,
but you know, I'm surrounded by mountains any direction. I go.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
What kind of animals do you have out there?

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
Well, you know, you have your typical deer turkey and
you're smaller, you know, varmints, raccoons, possums, but a lot
of black bear, bobcats, mountain lions, panthers, cooties, alek, Yeah,
there's a there's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Yeah, we don't have panther. We just have mountain lions here.
We don't have the panthers here, you know, and we
don't have the turkeys at least in my area. The
Lord knows if we did, I'd be trying to grab one.
Oh yeah, you know. But up here we have to battle.
We got the black bears, We have to battle grizzly bears, moose.

(01:37:20):
And it's funny because when you say moose being dangerous,
not many people actually believe you that a moose is dangerous.
Yet a moose is known to kill more people in
the wild per year than bears.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
Do. Oh definitely have heard all the stories. Yeah, I'm
glad we don't have those.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Yeah, yeah, they're kind of It's funny because they're real
skittish too. They're very skittish too, you know. I mean
you can't get within a couple hundred yards of them
unless they sneak up on you. But the weird part
about it is you get a creature like that, you know,
and you're getting into the big foot stuff. You get
a creature like that where it's twelve to sixteen hundred pounds,

(01:38:02):
and yet it's walking through the forest silently. I mean
it should be impossible. Yeah, yeah, you know, and yet
these things are sneaking up on people, not to hurt
them because they're they're half blind, but that they just
don't know any better. Then they react very dangerously, that's
for sure. So the reason why I asked you that

(01:38:25):
was because I'm curious. You know, what could be looking
in your windows at night down there?

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
Well, you know some people, of course, there is the wildlife,
but there are some people who say they have seen,
you know, everything from a ghost their apparition, to skin walkers,
window goes, which is you name it. I mean, people
will tell you they see stuff, and I can't say

(01:38:56):
all of it is true, but some of it I
definitely believe.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
All right, the final part of Joe's question, if somebody
calls you from the woods, you can never go check
it out. Do you have a lot of spirits, sprites,
cryptids calling people into the forest there.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
Well, again, I don't think it's something that you know
happens on a daily basis. But you know, obviously, if
you were out in the forest with a friend and
your hunt or whatever, and you hear your friend yell
for help, I'm going to go look for them, because
I know they're out there. But if I'm out there
alone and I hear a voice of because a lot

(01:39:38):
of times it's supposed to be familiar voices, like a
relative or a friend, and I know they're not out there.
I'm not going to go look for it. But I
guess these entities, be it a cryptid or a ghost,
will sound like someone you know as opposed to just
some random person where you might not check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Man, All right, let's get to another audience question here.
Let's stick with Joe here for a second. Brendan, do
you have security cameras around your house? Game cameras to
catch things that might be looking into your windows?

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
I do have some security cameras that are not installed yet,
but I do actually have game cameras behind my house
for dot deer hunting purposes. But but I'm actually in
the process of getting some security cameras around my house.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Do you have a lot of activity around there?

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
I mean a wildlife wise? I do I have. My
parents' house is right next door to mine, and growing up,
I had several paranormal experiences in that house. But I
don't have a lot per se, you know, in the
woods surrounding my house, but not far away, maybe a

(01:41:01):
mile or so down the road is known to be
a little bit of an active location.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Right, all right, let's move on. T Bone is asking Brandon,
is the behemoth of scripture the sasquatch in your opinion?

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Well, I've heard that theory, you know, from people, you know.
Is it possible? Maybe? The truth is, I don't know.
You know, you hear a lot of talk or sasquatch,
and people talk about, you know, the behemoth being dinosaurs,
and some people say the nef one. So it's who knows,

(01:41:39):
But is it possible? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
All right? Moving on here, let's go to Paramire if
he has a pair of questions. I understand your focus
is cryptids, but any UFO or alien activity that you've
seen or heard of in your area.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
Uh? Well, yeah, as I mentioned, you know a little
while ago, I do have some friends who I know
were reliable and are not lying, who have claim to
see UAPs UFOs. I personally about two two and a
half years ago seeing what I believe could have been

(01:42:19):
a UAP or UFO. It was literally right after I
started my TikTok account. I was driving home from work
and I seen lights in the sky and I first
thought it was an airplane or a helicopter. A helicopter
because it was low, but as I started watching it,

(01:42:39):
it wasn't the lights were going around, and it was
moving very.

Speaker 9 (01:42:46):
Odd.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
I don't know how to describe it, slower than a helicopter,
and it was and I was trying to watch it
and drive on these windy mountain roads, so I didn't
get to pay as much attention as I wanted to.
But I was following it for probably close to a
half mile. Then it was there, and then it was gone,

(01:43:08):
like it just disappeared, moved at the speed of light.
Because it was just a gon I've never seen nothing
like that, you know. And I've been around a lot
of medical helicopters working in law enforcement when accidents happened,
and I'm very familiar with how helicopters and airplanes moved.
It was not either of those.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Do you have a lot of military bases in the areas,
especially air force baces that could be testing different craft?

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
There no now where I'm at, there's nothing like that.
There's some National Guard armories, but they're not you know,
anything with I think they're more like construction units. They're
not helicopters. They don't have planes or jets or any
kind of aircraft at all.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
Yeah, man, so just makes it that much more mysterious.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Too, definitely. And my wife actually had an encounter probably
three years ago. She was driving home from work, and
what she described wasn't that big. It wasn't a drone.
She knew, you know what drones look like in the
middle of nowhere. She described this thing. It was almost

(01:44:26):
more triangular, and it moved right in front of her
vehicle and the shut off and it was to hear
her explain it. It wasn't like any drone I've heard of.
It was too small to be a helicopter. I don't
know what it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
Was, right right, All right, let's go to PARAMARV again.
The Mammoth cave system is huge. Does it extend up
your way? And do you think maybe cryptids use it
to live in or travel?

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
That's very possible, you know. The Mammoth cave system is
the largest in the world. It hasn't been explored, not
all of it, just a small fraction of a percent
has been explored, and they believe it it's more in
western Kentucky. I'm in eastern Kentucky, but they believe it
expands for hundreds of miles, and it would make perfect

(01:45:24):
sense to think that cryptids or feral people or anything
could use that as a passage system because we don't
know what's out there or what's under the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Really, have you guys, speaking of the ground and tunnel systems,
have you guys had reports of little people or gnomes
or anything along those lines running around.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
I have heard stories. It's not a common thing. I
do remember sharing a story probably about a year ago
on TikTok someone submitted to me of I think it
happened to either their grandparents or great grandparents, where they
told a story of the way they described it. It

(01:46:14):
was what you were thinking known would look like, almost
like inside their house one night, in their bedroom. I mean,
it is something I've heard of, but it isn't very
common really. But who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
What's your favorite kind of story to put on your channel?

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
Oh? Man? Well, you know, I think it doesn't really
matter to me if it's a ghost story or a
en cryptid story. But you know, I've worked in law
enforcement for over twenty years, and I feel like I'm
a pretty good judge of character. I can tell when
people are being truthful, I think, and so I can

(01:47:01):
cut through a lot of the stories and stuff I
get pretty quickly. I think, for the most part, But
the one who have a story and also have evidence,
be it a picture or a video to back it up.
Those are the ones around like, oh wow, I really
want to I want to show this because people need
to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
Man, the true encounters that you receive from people on
your channel. How many emails are you getting a day
on the supernatural slewth of people who want you to
make a video on their story.

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
I honestly can't keep up with it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
I have.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
I was just looking at it a moment ago. In
my email. I have over five hundred messages that I
haven't even looked at, not to count my inbox on Facebook, TikTok,
YouTube messages, comments, I literally have I get hundreds every day.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
Really, how do you know which ones are true and
which ones aren't?

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
Well, I mean, I don't have a surefire way of knowing.
But like when someone's really telling the truth, like it's
just natural, like some people, I can within the first
few sentences, I can tell it's made up or just
or at least I feel like it is. I don't

(01:48:27):
want to ever call anyone a liar, you know, if
they take the time to reach out to me. But
the people who really believe what they're telling. And I
guess maybe it comes from working in law enforcement, Like
I can just see, I feel like I have enough
experience where I can kind of cut through the clutter,
the clutter of it all, and you know, some of

(01:48:51):
them just stick out. I don't know how to explain
it exactly, but they just jump out at me, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Jules is asking a good question about the feral people.
Do you think they're different from homeless and addicted people
living on the streets?

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
Yeah, definitely, yeah. I mean, if the feral people do exist,
I think they have never been civilized. They have lived
in the wilderness, the mountains for from birth. You know,
some theories or that they live in cave systems, underground,
and and a lot of I would say most of

(01:49:31):
the stories I've heard people describe them as looking mount
your crecious almost gray skin. You can tell they're lacking vitamins, sunlight, something.
So I don't think these people have ever been civilized
or lived in civilization at all.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
And do the evens and this may sound like a
silly question, but do they even speak English? Do they
do they? Or have they carved their own language? Do
the way it is the forest with other creatures.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
Yeah. Again, And the stories I've heard when they have
heard these things communicate or try to communicate, it's to
them sounded just like gibberish, just a foreign language, just
a bunch of my bo jumbo. Doesn't sound like English
or any other language we know of. So I think

(01:50:30):
they have their own ways of communicating, maybe like men
or something like that. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
I can totally totally get that. Man, that is incredible.
We've got about four minutes to go with you today,
and I want to get to Jules question. Here are
you of the opinions sasquatch could be wherever they wish,
including towns and cities. If so, why do people only
look for them in the wilderness?

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
Good question. Well, I guess a lot of that goes
back to what is sasquatch? You know, there's a few
different theories. My personal belief is I believe there is
a biological flesh and blood sasquatch or Bigfoot, this bipedal
creature who very elusive, intelligent. But on the flip side

(01:51:19):
of that, I think they're just like ghosts. I think
demons will take the form of whatever is necessary. If
you're looking for Bigfoot, I think demons have the capabilities
of looking like a Bigfoot. Or if you're looking for
a certain type of ghost, an old farmer from nineteen thirty,

(01:51:40):
you're going to see an old farmer from nineteen thirty.
So I think the flesh and blood Bigfoot, in my opinion,
lives in the mountains of Appalachia or the where you're
from in Canada, or the Pacific Northwest ones, maybe near
a city. I question more what is it? But who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Maybe I get that what do you want people to
know about the paranormal?

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
Well, you know, I think that you don't need to
be embarrassed to share your story. If you've encountered the paranormal,
you know there's always going to be haters out there.
It doesn't matter who you are or what your story is.
You know, if you want to tell your story, you
should tell it and don't worry about what people think.

(01:52:31):
You know, you do you, and don't worry about anyone else.
And everyone has their own beliefs of what the paranormal
is or isn't, And you know, just don't worry about
what people think you just do you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
For you You're going to keep on investigating. Do you
prefer to investigate haunted buildings and locations or do you
like doing it more in the wilderness looking for the
spirits that are just roaming around the trails.

Speaker 4 (01:53:00):
You know, I like both by nature, you know, I
like the outdoors because I you know, grew up hunting, fishing,
being outdoors. But at the same time, if you know,
if you take me to a haunted building or a house,
and I'm all, I'm down for that too, you know,
especially if it's cold outside. So you know, I'm a
creature of opportunity. Wherever it's at, I'm willing to check

(01:53:23):
it out.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
I gotta I gotta ask you what's cold? How cold
does it get there?

Speaker 4 (01:53:34):
Well, the cold is to get I mean, we have
some sub Zgero temperatures sometimes, but you know, twenty thirty
degrees fare and hat.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
That's pretty cold here. Oh man, that's that's hoodie weather. Yeah,
that's hoodie weather. It'll top down this winter if it
gets cold enough. It didn't last year, but usually around
minus through the minus forty degrees celsius forty degrees fahrenheit

(01:54:04):
minus forty fahrenheit.

Speaker 4 (01:54:06):
Yeah, nay, nay, I don't want no part of that.

Speaker 7 (01:54:09):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
We'll usually have you know, a spell where it for
a week or two where it may get you know,
five blow or something, but you know, and it gets
down into the teens here, that's like I'm not going
outside weather.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
So oh man, do me a favor. Is we got
about twenty seconds here. Tell everybody where they can find
your channels.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
You can find me on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook
under the Supernatural Sloth. My email is the Supernatural Sloth
at gmail dot com. Feel afraid to shout give me
a shout out email anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Man, it has been an absolute pleasure having you on
spaced Out Radio for the first time, Brandon Gayheart. Hopefully
it's not the last. Coming up next on spaced Out Radio,
we have Swamp Dweller, then Extra Small Lee Strauss joins
us for the Q and A.

Speaker 8 (01:55:04):
You're listening to spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
All right, we're clear, Brandon, Thank you very much, my man.
You want over a bunch of new fans here in
our chat room, and I know they're gonna all go
over and hit subscribe on your channels.

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
Well, I appreciate that, and again, thank you for having
me on. I really enjoyed it and big glad to
do it again sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
Well, if you could do me a favor once, probably
in about an hour and a half, this show will
be all ready for process if you want to share it.
I'd appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
Too, sure, definitely, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
All right, buddy, you take care, stay in touch.

Speaker 4 (01:55:58):
Okay, thank you, Sarah, you too, you have a great one.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
Take care. Brendan Gayheart everybody, what a great guy, just
an honest to god great guy.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
You know you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
Yeah, nothing but good things to say about him. We
lucked out with him.

Speaker 10 (01:56:14):
I'll be right back guys, USA, USA.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
All right, let's bring in extra small there he is,
got Merle doing that now, fantastic. Oh yeah, that's our thing.
That's the way we do it. Here. A big thank

(02:01:23):
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Speaker 9 (02:03:08):
Hello and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 5 (02:03:11):
I'm swamp dweller, and tonight I'm going to take you
on a mystic journey of mm sharing tales of monsters,
legends and nightmapes.

Speaker 9 (02:03:21):
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio swamp. Hey, they're swamp dweller.

Speaker 5 (02:03:27):
My name is Matt and this is the story of
an occurrence I experienced while out in the woods a
few months back. A little about me before we get started,
so I can preface some things. I'm a state policeman
for Florida. I'm a specific type of officer who hunts
and catches poachers out in the woods, so I've done
in seen a lot of unsettling things. And on top

(02:03:51):
of that, I've got a good bit of tactical and
woods training, such as tracking, stealth, and similar areas. Not bragging,
I'm just making it known the story is more credible.
I've grown up hunting and camping in the woods of Florida,
so I'm pretty familiar with how things go around here.

Speaker 9 (02:04:07):
Now onto the story.

Speaker 5 (02:04:09):
I'd like to keep in shape, so I like to
wear armor plates and stuff and go running through the
woods to keep myself nice and healthy. I drive my
truck to a state forest by my house. I typically
like to run just before sunset and during sunset when
there's no one in the woods, so I don't freak
anybody out and have to explain why I'm wearing bulletproof vest.

(02:04:29):
With all this heavy weight attached to it. This time
on this evening was no different though. I finished work,
changed into my workout clothing, grabbed my concealed carry weapon,
put on my shoes, and drove my truck to the
forest parking lot.

Speaker 9 (02:04:44):
Sure enough, I was the only one there.

Speaker 5 (02:04:46):
When I showed up, I stretched, put in my earbuds
and started my run. I always run with my badge
around my neck, under my shirt and vest, and my
gun in a pouch on my vest that's hidden nothing.
It was unusual until I was a bit down the road.
This was on the latter half of my run. That's

(02:05:06):
when I began to feel uneasy and stopped and took
off my headphones. I turned to my right and there
was a girl leaning on a tree, seemingly watching me.
She looked about my age, or just a bit younger.
I'm currently twenty seven. I looked at her and said hey.
She responded with a smile and a very quiet hello.

(02:05:26):
She was beautiful, had long black hair, multiple tattoos all
over her arms, stomach, and some on her neck, and
wore a black shirt that showed her belly.

Speaker 9 (02:05:36):
She was wearing tight jeans. If you knew anything.

Speaker 5 (02:05:39):
About the woods in Florida during the summertime, you'd know
it's haunt and we get a relentless amount of mosquitoes.
That means she was not dressed for the occasion. Immediately,
my internal alarm started going off, but I tried to
I tried to relax. If I hadn't just run two
miles in the woods, I probably would I had a

(02:06:00):
little bit more adrenaline going on, but I was pretty beat.
She mentioned that her name was Lily and started talking
to me about what I was doing, why I was wearing,
what I was and so forth. Then she began to
get a bit more personal. Before I knew it, I
followed her deeper and deeper into the woods that kept
getting darker. I was following her further away from the

(02:06:22):
parking lot. I was captivated and terrified, but I couldn't
help myself. All my training instincts and thoughts were telling
me to run. I left there quickly, but I couldn't
stop myself. Eventually, as the sun had just gone down
it was getting very dark. My instincts caused me to
come to my senses. I stopped, and I said I
had to get back to my truck and it was

(02:06:44):
getting late and dark.

Speaker 9 (02:06:46):
She did not like this.

Speaker 5 (02:06:48):
She immediately started trying to convince me to keep going
with her, and when I refused, she approached me, tapped
my vest and said, this wouldn't have helped you tonight.
That freaked me out, and due to my line of work,
that is not very easy. The craziest part about all
of this is when she said that I could have sworn,
her eyes were glowing a dim red. I immediately thanked

(02:07:09):
her for the conversation and started to move quickly back
to the parking lot. But when I turned around to
look as I started running, she was gone. And when
I got back to the parking loft, sure enough, my
truck was still the only vehicle there. I don't know
if she was a demon or witch, or even a
figment of my imagination, but something was very wrong. I've
heard of crazy things out in the woods about the supernatural,

(02:07:31):
but never experienced anything of the such, and I hope
I never have to do that again. Thank you for listening,
swamp Dweller. I love the show and keep up the
great work.

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
Thank you swamp Dweller for another creepy story. If you
want more, just like that head on over to YouTube.
Type in swamp dweller, hit subscribe, ring that bell. Thousands
of stories right there at your fingertips that'll creep you
out each and every night. Time for extra small All right,

(02:08:20):
our good friend Lee Strauss from Element one point fifteen
on our YouTube channel that broadcasts each and every Friday night,
eight pm Pacific to nine pm right before our show. Here.

Speaker 6 (02:08:30):
How you doing, buddy, I'm doing fantastic, Dave. I'm just
glad to be back in the saddle after a week off.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
Yeah. Yeah, we missed you last week. We did, but
you were out investigating with the girlfriend. Yes, And how'd
that go? It went very well.

Speaker 6 (02:08:48):
We went to what's called the Olympic Strangeade days that
Toby Johnson puts on. This is the second annual, and
had Marine Morgan there and a bunch of other speakers,
so it was fantas There was about forty of us,
forty five of us total. We basically took over an
entire campsite and in the center of the campsite they

(02:09:09):
set up a stage and you know, big tarps and
stuff because it was raining off and on, and one
speaker after another and then we'd go out at night
and do like either a night watch for the sky
in the sky, or we would go out in the
woods and do like sasquatch calls and different things.

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
So it was it was a blast, wonderful. Did he
get any activity.

Speaker 6 (02:09:34):
Yes, there was some stuff that happened, Dave, Oh my,
oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:09:41):
One night.

Speaker 6 (02:09:42):
I think it was probably Saturday night, the last night there.
We were all sitting listening to Marine Morgan. She's the
she used to be an investigator for Mouffon here in
the state director in Washington State. But we were listening
to her talk and I just happened to turn over
to the left and I saw it in the trees

(02:10:04):
over on the left hand side. There was this blue
orb just sitting there in the trees. And I'm like,
what in the heck is this? You know, it's not
really clear that at all, so there's no stars out,
but yet there's this blue orb just in the tree line,
probably about one hundred and fifty feet off the ground
in the trees over there, and I would suppose it

(02:10:25):
was about oh, maybe five hundred feet away or so.
And I'm looking at this thing and then Tammy looks
at me, and then she looks over there, and she's
looking up at it too, and we're watching this thing
just and it was like it was there paying attention
to what we were talking about, like watching the group
of us. So that was really interesting. And that lasted

(02:10:47):
for about a minute or two as it was there,
and then it just faded away.

Speaker 1 (02:10:52):
No, wait, what color was it again? Blue?

Speaker 6 (02:10:54):
It was a bluish color, just like you see down
below here with the radio radio under neath our names,
right right?

Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
Yeah? Wow?

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
And how long was it there?

Speaker 6 (02:11:06):
For about a minute or two?

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
Oh no, kid, that's that's actually a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:11:16):
I just sat there and watched it. It didn't really
move from the position that it was in until it
blinked out.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
Man, I love it when stuff like that happens.

Speaker 6 (02:11:27):
Yeah. I don't get any sense of, you know, it
being like a orb from a sasquatch or from I
would say that it was alive in some.

Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
Way, Dave, right.

Speaker 1 (02:11:44):
Right, Oh my, that's actually pretty that's actually pretty awesome
because that's a that's a rarity. But it seems like
in the forest. People that I've talked to who have
also witnessed orbs in the forest, they always seem to
see like a bluish light or just hovering there doing nothing.
Maybe it's dangling through the trees, maybe not, but it

(02:12:07):
just seems to always be bluish white.

Speaker 6 (02:12:11):
Yeah, exactly. So I would say, you know, maybe some
sort of fay or something like that that's interested in
what we're talking And David, I don't get the sense
that it showed up randomly. I think maybe because of

(02:12:31):
the subject that she was talking about is why it
was there.

Speaker 1 (02:12:38):
So you're thinking that maybe she summoned it.

Speaker 6 (02:12:42):
I think it was more so interested in the group
and what she was talking about. So maybe it was
something that either we manifested by the group of us,
or we were talking about something that it was interesting
did in.

Speaker 1 (02:13:02):
That makes sense? That makes sense. How many people saw this?

Speaker 6 (02:13:08):
Oh, it wasn't all of us. A lot of us were,
you know, pretty focused on what Marine was talking about
at the time, but I do believe there was probably
at least twelve ten twelve of us.

Speaker 3 (02:13:23):
That saw it. Oh my, that's still quite a bit.

Speaker 6 (02:13:29):
Yeah, because you're looking at a speaker and then I
don't know what the heck. Somehow we got our attention
drawn over to the left where this orb was up
in the trees. So yeah, maybe people that are sensitive
saw it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:13:47):
Yeah, no kidding, no kidding. Well, lots of things going
on in the UFO and CRYPTI world. Of course, it's
getting closer and closer to Halloween here, and you know, people,
do you want to hear your spookiest story of dealing
with a ghost or something like that?

Speaker 6 (02:14:07):
My spookiest story, Dave, I had this crazy dream and
it ties into real life. The dream does, so I
will tell you. When I was about, let's say, eleven

(02:14:28):
twelve years old, we were living in this house that
was a kind of a U shaped house. You had
the garage that came out front on one side of
the house, and the other side was like the master
bedroom in a bathroom, and an adjoining bedroom on the
other side. And in the center of this house was
this huge bay window. And when you looked out that

(02:14:50):
bay window, you could see the street out front. You
could also see part of the driveway and the walkway
that comes up and circles up. It goes right there
to the to the front door. So you're in line
of sight with the front door if you look off
to the left. If you look out the bay window,
and in this dream, Dave, I was home alone and

(02:15:15):
I saw a guy coming in from the sidewalk walking
up to the house. Now, it creeped me out, and
so what I did was I duck down below the windows,
still right, and I heard a knock on the front door,
and so I kind of peecked up and I saw
the back of this guy. He's just knocking on the door, right,

(02:15:37):
knock a couple times, rap, rap rap rap rap, And
of course I wasn't going to open the door, and
then you know, wrapp rap rap rap, he'd knock again,
and I'm like, holy cred, you know, this is really
freaking me out. You know, I don't know. And then
I could hear like the handle jiggle as he's trying
to see if the door, you know, will open or whatever.

(02:16:00):
And I just, you know, I stayed low, Dave, as
low as I possibly could underneath that window, and I
gave it a couple of minutes, maybe like five six minutes,
and I figured, Okay, I'm going to look to see
if he's gone, because I don't hear anything anymore. So
as I stuck my head up above the window sill,

(02:16:22):
his face was pressed against the glass, right where I
stuck my head up. No, scared me to death in
my dream. Oh, just wigged me the way out right.
And then he pulled back from the glass and he
had his finger like this, and he pointed it at me.

(02:16:45):
I got you, you know, like yeah, and he walked
back out along the walkway, back out onto the sidewalk
and walked back the way he came.

Speaker 3 (02:17:00):
Now.

Speaker 6 (02:17:02):
Later on, as I got older, I've always wondered about
that dream. It's always stuck there in the back of
my head. And as I was going through regression with
doctor Janet Coley over my et stuff, we got into it.
I wanted to know what the hell was this about?

Speaker 3 (02:17:21):
What?

Speaker 4 (02:17:21):
You know what?

Speaker 6 (02:17:22):
Why did this happen this guy? Come to find out,
this same guy was accidentally shot by my stepfather back
in Nam. Really yeah, brutal man bru just twisted.

Speaker 1 (02:17:44):
Totally twisted. I ever tell you my scariest dream. No,
this happened a couple of years ago, and I actually
recorded it. It went on Swamp Dweller's channel called I Died.
So one night I'm dreaming and I'm somebody who really

(02:18:07):
doesn't remember my dreams, right, but this one stuck with me.
So it was a sunny day. It was you know,
you could see the forest of the trees all around.
And I'm at this lake and on this dock and
there's like three people there are all people I don't recognize,

(02:18:28):
and they drop my body. They're like carrying my stiff
body to this lake. They get to the end of
the pier and they drop me in the water. And
I'm watching myself sink into the water until I find
as you know, and you see the sunlight kind of

(02:18:49):
going darker and darker and darker and darker, you know,
until you hit I hit the sandy bottom. It was
still bright enough for me to see the sandy bottom.
And I'm looking up and I'm like, i can't breathe,
hold on, I don't need to breathe. I'm dead. How
am I going to get out of here? And I

(02:19:12):
couldn't move my lips, I couldn't move my arms, I
couldn't move anything. And I'm like, I'm literally going to
watch the fish eat me.

Speaker 6 (02:19:21):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (02:19:22):
And I started panicking, like in my body, like even
though I knew I was dead, I started panicking in
my body looking up at the sunlight above because it
was only about maybe fifteen to twenty feet of water
that I was dropped in, and I was like, man,

(02:19:45):
like what do I do here? Like I'm stuck. I
can't move, you know. I start seeing the fish slowly
swimming around, all these little trout and you know, other
little fish, and I couldn't talk. I couldn't scream, you know,
in my eyes, I felt like I could just move
my eyes.

Speaker 3 (02:20:04):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:20:06):
Oh man, I woke up in a raging sweat.

Speaker 3 (02:20:11):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:20:11):
I was so freaked out over that. And the funny
part about it is, I don't even know why I
would dream that. I have no idea, but it was
like literally feeling like I was dead. You know, at
least the water was warm. I remember the water being warm.

Speaker 6 (02:20:32):
Yeah, I'm wondering if that's like a vision from your
past life or something. Did you go out that way, Dave?

Speaker 3 (02:20:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:20:41):
I don't know, but I really don't ever want to
do that again.

Speaker 6 (02:20:45):
No, wonder you don't like the water and sharks and
all that.

Speaker 1 (02:20:48):
Well, there was no sharks in this one because it
was a lake, But then again, you never know, you
never know, you know, probably some great white or megalodon
swimming in there, but no on that one scared the
daylights out of me, you know, Oh yeah, it really did.
Like I have recalls of abductions, I call them dreams,

(02:21:13):
but I don't know if they're dreams, because you know,
they're really real and you only get little snippets of it,
only about for the most part, ten seconds, fifteen to
twenty seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:21:32):
Yeah right.

Speaker 6 (02:21:34):
I'm wondering if that's common though, with us abductees, if
we for some reason have a hard time remembering our
dreams often.

Speaker 3 (02:21:45):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:21:47):
I think they blank your memory of it, you know.
I don't know if it's to cover up trauma or
you know, to keep you calm or whatever. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:21:59):
But that's for definitely.

Speaker 6 (02:22:00):
We're definitely easy to control. Yeah yeah, I think we
all would go under a hypnosis, extremely easy.

Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
But that dream that I died that night, to this day,
it still scares me, man, it still scares me. I
don't know where the lake is, I don't know what's
going on. I don't know anything. I just know that
that one, even thinking about it, mentioning it scares me.

Speaker 3 (02:22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:22:42):
Yeah, Well you'll carry that with you always, just as
I will my dream.

Speaker 1 (02:22:46):
No kidding, I've never had that dream. You know, I
remember as a kid, I you know, I'm talking like three,
four five years old. You know, my mom always talked
about the Boogeyman. You know, you got to go to
bed otherwise the Boogeyman will come and get you or whatever,
you know. And I remember as a kid having dreams

(02:23:09):
of the Boogeyman trying to get me and my friends.
And you know, because we lived back in the seventies,
we lived in this cul de sac that was you know,
had all budget you know, your typical suburban cul de
sac where all the kids hung out together, and you know,
you played around and you did all this stuff. And
I remember my dreams where as a kid, you know,

(02:23:32):
the Boogeyman would come around trying to grab all of
my friends. And at that point I could fly by
like flapping my arms like like a bird, and then
I would fly over top of him and stomp down
on his head, and then he'd try and jump and
grab me. And one day he actually grabbed my leg.
Oh oh that was scary. That was scary when that happened. Man.

Speaker 6 (02:23:57):
Yeah, I've gotten the falling dreams a lot too, where
I'm super high in the air and crashed down, and
it always feels like I'm crashing back into my own body.

Speaker 1 (02:24:09):
I never had any of those, of course I had some.
I think ouch, I just bit my tongue while I
was talking to you. That never feels good. No, no,
that never feels good. But yeah, those falling dreams, those
ones are kind of sinister as well. Didn't like those,
but there was a meaning behind that. I'm gonna have

(02:24:30):
to look that up at the break because there was
a meaning about what it means to fall in your dreams.
But Lee, I'm gonna get you to hold on right there.
When we come back, we're gonna find out what falling
in your dreams means, and we're gonna get into finally,
the Age of Disclosure is going to be released. We're

(02:24:50):
gonna talk to Lee Strauss about that year. As we
enter the final half hour up tonight's show, this is.

Speaker 8 (02:25:02):
Spaced Out Radio and your hosts name.

Speaker 1 (02:25:05):
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Speaker 5 (02:25:59):
You.

Speaker 1 (02:26:03):
I love singing Happy Birthday to our listeners. Man, you
do it well. You know what. I'm not gonna say
who because they may or may not be in the
chat room tonight. But I actually had one person message
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to them.

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That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:26:33):
Warden Dragon, How you doing, JSCO. Nice to see you, buddy.
You look how excited she is. Biggest smile right now.

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I've been waiting almost ten years for you to sing
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was I don't know who this person is because I
is that a pie symbol?

Speaker 3 (02:27:12):
Is that what that is?

Speaker 4 (02:27:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:27:14):
That's the pie?

Speaker 1 (02:27:15):
Hey pie, Welcome to sour Chat.

Speaker 6 (02:27:23):
I'm just doing a little light reading here on the
age of disclosure. I've heard quite a bit. You know,
this is the one that has has everybody in their
dog in it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:35):
What's that has everybody in their dog in it?

Speaker 6 (02:27:38):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, I secret war is right. Some people

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want to keep it close to the vest and the
others want to let it out.

Speaker 1 (02:28:32):
I've been seeing the most awesome yet grossest video reels
on my feed lately. Brigs Brey. What is that Bryce Bright? Oh? Bryce,
Bryce Baby. That's a great name, Vanilla Bryce Bryce Baby.
All right, welcome to so our chat. It's and oh

(02:28:53):
number one Nicole Sackitch is here. I tried calling you back,
your lame I tried calling you back. You never picked up.
Did you fall asleep? But no, it's these videos. Are
these guys in England and they bring out they'll go
into like farm yards and everything that are like rat infested,

(02:29:14):
and then they'll send their team of dogs out there
to get the rats. And these dogs are just having
a blast doing this, just a blast. But like what
I almost feel sorry for the rats man, I do,
but I don't. At the same time, these dogs are

(02:29:36):
so happy there after they rip one apart, they look
up at their owner, look at us, look at us.
Where's the next one? Dig another one up for us?

Speaker 6 (02:29:44):
That's amazing. Yeah, Ai, generated.

Speaker 1 (02:29:48):
No, I don't know. It's a beauty part. All right,
we got under a minute to go here. Thank you.

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Speaker 6 (02:32:08):
I'm here for I'm here for the hat tip.

Speaker 1 (02:32:13):
Yes, yes, a good hat tip goes a long way.
All right, man, we got to finish off what we
figured in the last half hour, yes, sir? Okay? About
what does it mean when you are falling in a dream?
All right? Falling in a dream? This according to the
AI overview of Google, falling in a dream often symbolizes

(02:32:38):
feeling out of control, insecure, or overwhelmed in your waking life.
It can represent anxiety, a fear of failure, or a
sense that a situation is unstable. The specific details of
the dreams, such as who or what caused you to
fall and the emotions you felt, can provide additional insight.

(02:33:02):
So let's get into that. Common interpretations lee loss of control.
This is one of the most common interpretations and can
be linked to stress in areas like work, finances, or relationships,
insecurity or instability. A falling dream can suggest you feel
insecure on that situation in your life is unstable, Anxiety

(02:33:27):
and fear. It can be a manifestation of general anxiety
or a specific fear, such as the fear of failure
or a feel fear parton me of taking a risk.
Feeling unsupported. Dreams about falling may indicate that you feel
unsupported by others in your life. Betrayal. Some interpretations connecting

(02:33:51):
falling dreams to feelings of betrayal and letting go one
On a positive note, if the fall is graceful and
leads to a positive outcome, like landing safely, it could
symbolize a positive transition or letting go of something negative
in your life.

Speaker 6 (02:34:14):
It's never been good when I've landed.

Speaker 3 (02:34:15):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (02:34:17):
I've never seen my landing. I will say this though.
When I was a teenager, from the time I was
three years old till I was eighteen, all I wanted
to do in life was be a fighter pilot. I
wanted to fly jets right. I wanted to get in
that cockpit. I wanted to be a great pilot. I

(02:34:39):
didn't had no interest in like flying cessna's or airliners.
I wanted to It was all or nothing, Let's fly jets.
And honestly, I didn't make it. I didn't make it
because during that time, in nineteen ninety one, right after
the Gulf War, the Canadian government hacked and slashed the

(02:35:01):
defense budget and they literally froze hiring on potential pilots
with no estimate of when they would open it up. Well,
by the time they opened it up, I had already
had pins of my knees from surgery after blowing out
my ACL and MCL, So the dream was over. But

(02:35:23):
what was weird was when I was eighteen, I kept
having the same recurring dream for about three months, and
that was I was flying my jet and my local
hometown of Abbotsford, British Columbia has this giant air show,
one of the biggest air shows in North America, and
I was flying my jet Fighter in that in that

(02:35:45):
air show as the demonstration pilot. And in my dream,
I'm having a great time and you know, seeing the crowd,
it's all the hometown crowd, you know, just feeling really
good about it. And then I go to do this loop,
but I can't come out of the loop, and right

(02:36:06):
before my jet hits the ground, I project out of
the jet into the stands, watching me crash my jet
nose first into the ground and dying. Oh that was
kind of creepy.

Speaker 6 (02:36:23):
Yeah, that that's something else being or seeing it from
a third party like that.

Speaker 1 (02:36:30):
Yeah, I didn't like that one.

Speaker 6 (02:36:33):
No, for me, it's always like I'm going to hit
the ground. I'm going to hit the ground, and every
time it's like I fall into my body, but I
don't see my body until the very last couple second
or so, and then it's like falling into my body
and it feels really bizarre, like.

Speaker 1 (02:36:54):
So maybe maybe you're astro projecting.

Speaker 6 (02:36:58):
I don't know what it is, but I will say
that it does give me a sense of there is
something going on where I'm going back in.

Speaker 3 (02:37:13):
Yeah, no kidding, no kidding.

Speaker 1 (02:37:15):
That is weird, though, dude, that is totally weird.

Speaker 6 (02:37:20):
And I don't like being or I do not like
being not in control, being out of control, either in
a relationship or with my life or something like that.
I always fight to have control over things that I
sometimes can't have control over. So your explanation makes a
lot of sense as.

Speaker 1 (02:37:40):
Well, right, mm hmm, all right. On last show, Josh
Rutledge and I got into the movie Age of Disclosure,
which is finally going to be released after eight months
of anticipation. Many critics gave it a very high rating review.
Many people who weren't familiar with the subject said all

(02:38:02):
of the witnesses from Jay Stratton to Marco Rubio and
everybody else who is in it. There were thirty four
eye witnesses it to government information claiming that this was
going to be the one that turns this story into
our reality, and it is finally coming out here soon

(02:38:23):
going to be released, and a lot of people in
the UFO world are public are popped up about it
in the public. I don't know if I am or not.
I don't know. But one of the things that Josh
and I talked about is who's the movie really for.
This is where I want to get your opinion on it,

(02:38:44):
because many people out there believe that a movie like
this really isn't for the UFO world. Okay, the people
like you, like me, maybe people who listen to this show,
who are involved in the UFO community have a vested interest,

(02:39:07):
or just Joe or Jane sitting at home and you know,
maybe they've seen a UFO before. You know, maybe back
in nineteen eighty nine when you know, they were out
as teenagers, out partying in a campfire area and saw
something strange fly over, whatever the case may be. But

(02:39:27):
Josh was saying, you know what, a lot of these
movies that are being made. A lot of these people
who are coming out aren't doing it for us, the
UFO world, but they're doing it to try and teach
the people who are obtuse to the subject.

Speaker 6 (02:39:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:39:46):
And my theory on it is it always amazes me
that these these groups, these people, these scientific communities, these
government communities, whether it was the defunct To the Stars
Academy or Skywatcher or the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies,
they all have one thing in common. They wish the

(02:40:06):
UFO world would get the hell out of their way.
Just don't bug us, let us do our thing. We'll
figure it out. You go sit back at your corner
and you know, find something to get your wou fix on.

Speaker 3 (02:40:21):
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:40:23):
And I remember having a conversation with lou Elizondo about this,
and that was one of the biggest mistakes when he
was with the Two of the Stars Academy, he said
they made was that they did not at all want
the support of the UFO community. And he thought that

(02:40:46):
was a grave mistake and one of the downfalls of
what they did, because here they had this built in
support and people who would literally, you know, push their
their and their project, but they didn't want to support
the people who were supporting them. They didn't want the

(02:41:08):
WU crowd, the UFO crowd, They didn't want any association
with the UFO community because you know, we believe in
flying saucers, little green men and anal probes. What's your
thoughts on that.

Speaker 6 (02:41:26):
We got two camps here. We got people that like
us and like people that are watching the show right
now and listening to the show that do believe, you know.
And then you've got another group out there, for instance,
like my aunt who have that don't believe, not at all.
How are you going to get them to watch this documentary?

(02:41:51):
I imagine for quite a while it's going to be
pay for view. You would have to, you know, pay
to see it, or it's on a subscription based platform.
I don't know, you know that I could get her
to watch this this documentary.

Speaker 8 (02:42:12):
Now.

Speaker 6 (02:42:13):
The other part of that is is a lot of
those people that aren't interested in this thing don't know
who certain people in the government are, especially the ones
that are trying to push the disclosure, you know, and
have the hearings that we're having. They don't know necessarily
know who those people are. They're going to see, Oh,

(02:42:34):
it's it's Luna, you know, or it's you know whoever.

Speaker 4 (02:42:38):
They're not going to.

Speaker 6 (02:42:41):
Understand what they do in the government and understand the
significance about what they're talking about. So I don't believe
it's going to do anything. Those people that we want
to see this and that we want to understand that
these things are real, probably still won't see this, unfortunately.
So the fact that you said it's not for us, well,

(02:43:03):
I think it is for us. I think it's putting
everything in a nice little box in a timeline with
all these people that we've probably heard before. But it's
very regimen and it broken down and very you know,
in the box. So we might be able to take

(02:43:24):
snippets of this, of this movie or this documentary and
then show people that don't believe and maybe, just maybe,
But for the most part, I don't think it's for
anybody but us.

Speaker 1 (02:43:39):
See, that's where I'll disagree with you. I don't believe
that they have any interest in trying to prop up
the UFO world saying that we're closer closer to an answer,
closer to finding out the truth of what's going on.

(02:44:02):
I think it's just a I think it's just a
big facade, you know. I recall Rich Hoffman, a great
UFO scientist in this community, when I interviewed him a
couple of years ago, basically saying he wishes the UFO

(02:44:22):
community would just buzz off. I'm paraphrasing here, would just
buzz off and let the scientists and the military do
their jobs so we could figure this thing out.

Speaker 3 (02:44:32):
We didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:44:33):
He was basically saying they didn't want us around because
we almost like contaminated the field with lunatic theories of
alien abductions and experimentation and hybrid children. We kind of
made the field look foolish.

Speaker 6 (02:44:54):
Well, that may be the case, and yes, we're always
going to have people that are fanatical in one way
or another. We believe that stuff because what we've seen
with our own eyes and the people that we trust
tell us these things. But yeah, there's there's a certain
segment of it that of course is laughable for some

(02:45:17):
to hear and not believe. But there's still and I
think it. Maybe that's why we're so entrenched in listening
to the government right now, is because they have such
a sense of believability where the common the common person doesn't, right,

(02:45:41):
And so at least that's something that we can point
to and say, you know, that man is or that
woman has been in Congress for a very long time,
and we should you know, we should listen to what
they're saying, right, or you should be able to take
with what they're saying as truth.

Speaker 1 (02:46:04):
Well, you would hope that you could, but then you
have to worry about all of the narratives that go
along with it.

Speaker 3 (02:46:10):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (02:46:13):
Yeah, I just don't. I just don't think I could
ever get somebody that just doesn't care to watch it.

Speaker 1 (02:46:27):
So let's see some of the players in age of disclosure.
Here we have lou Elizondo. We have Jay Stratton who
used to run I believe the uapd TF. Marco Rubio
is he Secretary of State? Is that what he is now?

(02:46:49):
Mike rownds and I apologize to our American listeners that
I don't know that properly blame me being a Canadian Senator,
Mike Brown, Senator Christian Gillibrand, James Clapper, scientist Eric Davis,
scientist Hal put Off, Chris Mellon, who is part of
the Two of the Stars Academy and also Uhy Deputy

(02:47:13):
Secretary of Defense under two presidents, Andre Carson Colin, Frederick
Shriff sander Off as an executive producer, Andrew Ferra executive producer.
So we have a number of people in there that

(02:47:34):
we are familiar with the names on this list, and
it's going to be interesting. I'm curious to see how
it's going to be rated under Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 6 (02:47:49):
Well, you know everything that I've heard so far, everybody's
been waiting for the starring thing to be released, and
the fact that I don't know why, what was it
that pushed it back?

Speaker 1 (02:48:02):
Well, they said they couldn't find somebody to pick up
the film, like a Netflix or an Amazon Prime or
even a major studio in order to work with it.
They were struggling with that. And apparently also there were
things in the movie that had to I guess go
through security, shall we say, to make sure that these

(02:48:27):
top secret individuals didn't give up anything top secret. But
I am going to see it. I am going to
see it. You know, I expect my expectations of it
all not to sound like a negative Nelly, but my
expectations of it all are pretty much going to be
about about the same as every other UFO documentary, a

(02:48:50):
bunch of words salad. They're not going to bring out
any more UFO videos. They're not going to give us
the smoking gun of where these craft are located, or
they're not going to tell us what Lockheed Martin is
hiding or whatever it may be, you know. And that's
why I think Josh Rutledge, you know, on our last show,
said you know this, that's why a movie like this

(02:49:13):
isn't made for the UFO community, because we're more advanced
in our knowledge of where we are, whereas somebody who's
not familiar with this may look at this video and say,
this is amazing. I never would have expected it.

Speaker 6 (02:49:28):
Well, like I was saying that, you've got all those
sound bites from everybody, and I'm sure they're going to
go around.

Speaker 1 (02:49:35):
And that's all it really is. It's a collection of
sound bites, you know. But then again, you know, as
somebody who studies this field, it's been disappointing the last
number of years to see how many documentaries, if you
go back to say the last twenty years, the documentaries
seem to have the majority of the same people in

(02:49:59):
every redocumentary and I'm not poo pooing the people who
were in there, okay, being the same people. I mean,
you could turn on any documentary on on Netflix or
Amazon and who do you see? You see Jim Mars,
you see Richard Dolton, you see Linda Moulton Howe Okay,
and a number of others that are just the same.

(02:50:22):
It's the same people telling the same stories, just a
different title of the documentary.

Speaker 3 (02:50:29):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:50:29):
Stanton Friedman, how many documentaries was he on? God bless them?
And that isn't insulting those people. Because Lee, if somebody
came to you or me and said, hey, we want
you to be on five different documentaries this year and
we want you to tell the same story or variations
of that, would you do it? Of course you're gonna
do it. You're getting paid to do it, yeah, right,

(02:50:54):
not grifting. You're getting paid for your knowledge and your story.

Speaker 7 (02:51:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:51:00):
I get that, but it's not it's not like we're
people to be to, you know, for the public to
look up to. And I understand why they choose the
people that they want and that they've chosen to be
in this documentary because they hold they hold station. So

(02:51:23):
that makes sense to me. But I believe, like we
were saying, Dave, that this is just going to be
more soundbites that we've already heard, just put together in
a nice, nice little package, in a nice little box.

Speaker 3 (02:51:36):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:51:37):
And that's why it's probably meant for not us, you know,
not meant for people already involved in the UFO community.
That's going to be one of the headlines, not made
for UFO public.

Speaker 6 (02:51:51):
So that being so, that being said, now that we've
had that discussion, who's going to actually watch this thing?

Speaker 1 (02:52:00):
Well? I mean knowing that ratings on UFO shows UFO
documentaries on television on Netflix are some of the highest
rated documentaries ever. People love reading about this subject. Go
back to the New York Times in twenty seventeen when
that article came out. It's the largest purchase of New

(02:52:21):
York Times newspapers since nine to eleven. I mean, it's
that popular subject. So I don't think they'll get a
problem having people not watching it compared to those who will.
But leave you've got to wrap it on up, Thank you,
Lee Stress from emblement one point fifteen. As we say
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