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October 21, 2025 • 173 mins
Rebecca Hardcastle Wright is a life long experiencer who now looks to help people open up their mind, body and soul. Her goal is to help people dig deep into their minds to open up their ability to move their connections to the spiritual and extraterrestrial realms.

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We're going to talk about us be exo conscious. Is

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it possible? We're going to learn tonight, Rebecca Hardcastle Right
is here to discuss it all. Then in our number
three swamp dweller will join us for another creepy story.
Then the UFO Wizard, Josh Rutledge will be here for
the UFO Report. Rebecca Hardcastle Right is a pioneering voice
on the intersection of consciousness, contact, planetary ethics, and governance innovation.

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As the founder of the Institute for Exo Consciousness, the
first disclosure organized or post disclosure organization, and co creator
of the Planetary Constitution, Rebecca leads a movement dedicated to
empowering humanity to consciously co create our planetary and multidimensional future.
Her groundbreaking work redefines how we understand contact consciousness and

(03:55):
our role in the evolving cosmic community. Oh doesn't that
sound great? Her vision of exoconsciousness humans inspires people to
embrace their natural multi dimensional abilities and integrate psychic and
contact experiences into daily life. Yeah, this is good WU.
Through her leadership in exoconsciousness, ufology, planetary ethics, at governance,

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Rebecca bridges science, spirituality, and policy. As an organizer, author,
and mentor, she helps humanly navigate the path forward towards freedom,
peace and co creation. Let's bring her on in here.
Her website, by the way, is exoconsciousness dot com. Rebecca Hardcastle, right,

(04:40):
it is so good to see you again. How are
you good?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Evening, Dave, and hello to everybody. I loved that you
named everyone.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yes, it's great. So for our radio audience, we start
on YouTube about six minutes before and I will literally
say hello to every person in our chat room. Just
one of those things I do. I'm anal about it,
so yeah, it's one of those weird things that I do. Rebecca,
thank you so much for being here. It is always

(05:09):
a pleasure. Let's learn about you for our audience who
may not be familiar with your work. How did it
all begin for you going into the world of exoconsciousness,
et contact, psychic intuition.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
It started as in childhood what's called a childhood experiencer.
It's quite common. My first quite cognitive memories of what
was going on for me as a child was about
three years old, which is also quite common. Some people
come in as like crib contact ease they being in

(05:46):
the crib or you know, they remember in utero being contacted.
But I'm a childhood contact contact de I was born
in West Virginia, So I was born a small town city,
a mining town in Clarsburg, West Virginia, and that's where

(06:06):
most of my early contact took place. And I love
the connection between what I experienced in the Sasquatch experience
because as a child, well, first of all, where I
lived in Clarksburg, it's very poorous, so it's full of mines.
And as a matter of fact, there was a town

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there called a Bridgeport that was right next next to Clarksburg.
And on Bridgeport they built a golf course, kind of
a private golf course. A lot of people flew in
from DC to use that golf course, and there was
like a even you know, back when I was a child,
there was a private airport for them. But when you
would ride your golf cart on those golf paths, you

(06:49):
could hear that it was hollow underneath. So very interesting place.
And my contact was not only with extraterrestrials in craft
that I had vivid contacts about, but I was also
taken underground, and I spent much of my time underground.

(07:11):
And I knew then even as a child, that there
was some connection between craft of the sky and what
I was experiencing there and what I was meeting and
communicating with under the ground.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
What do you mean that you were taken underground?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I mean I had very vivid memories of being sucked
to underground as a child. Well, first of all, just
to be clear, I lived in a small little town
which has kind of grown into a nice size community city,
not not city, but a larger town, and so I

(07:51):
was really free to rome as a child and to go,
you know, out and play, you know, open that my
mother would open the door, we'd all run out and play,
and then you know, come over lunch, come over for dinner.
But all that time I was outside, I was in
the woods. I was in you know, down in the
quote hollows of West Virginia. It was it was a

(08:15):
very very safe childhood, and I had vivid memories that
I would go under the ground and meet these beings,
meet these creatures that were there, and it was hollow,
so I imagine they were dwelling in these hollowed out areas
in this these pores uh areas in West Virginia, and

(08:38):
you know West Virginia especially, you know where I was
in Appalachias settled by you know, Scotch Irish people, which
were really Scottish people that were moved into Ireland to
sort of quell the anti English resentment. So they were
primarily Irish, but they Scots Scots of people, but they

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were moved into Ireland to sort of settle all that down.
And then and then when settlements became available here in America,
a lot of Scotch Irish moved into into Pennsylvania, came
into Pennsylvania, many of them, and they then moved into
Appalachia down those old Indian roads into Appalachia, and they
brought with them. So the motto of West Virginia is

(09:24):
mountaineers are always free, So they didn't. It's kind of
like people that lived on islands. Nobody was really around
them unless you really wanted to go up those you know,
hard rugged trails into Appalachia. So you know, of course
they made a lot of moonshine, you know, whatever else
they did, but there wasn't very much oversight and a

(09:47):
lot of old old medical ways. My great grandmother was
the herbalist for her little community in West Virginia, did
all the berths and you know, cured all the diseases
and everything, and it was just a very much so
one place I lived in West Virginia, it had to
have some kind of druid roots to it because the

(10:10):
people that lived on the land where I lived, there
was a big sycamore tree. And when West Virginia was
first settled, people would live in the tree trunks. They
didn't live in the trees, they lived in the tree trunks.
So these were like massive, huge, ancient sycamore trees, and
that had like something that happened, maybe a lightning strike
or they got carved out or whatever. But a lot

(10:32):
of the tree trunks were ten by ten. People could
actually ride their horses into the tree trunks, turn the
horse around, and ride back out. That's how big the
tree trunks were. So there was a lot of you know,
you're living in a tree and you're pretty you're pretty
grounded into what's going on underground. I would imagine a

(10:55):
lot of a lot of those people were maybe came
out of Old Celtic and drew and threw a knowledge
and wisdom and that sort of thing. So just it's
no mistake that you know, I had contact. I think
it's probably a lineage type of thing, although, of course
in families is usually not talked about very much. So

(11:17):
that was actually the start of my exo conscious and
my contact experience.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
When you were underneath the ground with whatever these creatures were.
What did they look like?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Many of the were kind of reptilian like.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
And they never harmed you? Did they Did they live
in Inner Earth or were they from Hell?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
They didn't. They lived down in that well, I don't
want to say inner Earth, but they certainly lived down
in the earth. And no, I was.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Never harmed, and what would happen?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Matter of fact, I was kind of like brought down there,
shown around, you know, and then it's funny, you know
now that you brought it up. So I never really
knew what I was doing down there. As a child especially,
I just I didn't really or a young child, I
didn't really know what was going on. And then I
would be taken to different places I would probably do

(12:18):
I was doing like astral traveling or something with them
and going to different places in the earth. And I
remember sitting on my porch when I moved to Phoenix
in the nineties and I was reading a book about shamanism,
and all of a sudden I thought, oh my golly,
that's what I was doing. They were like bringing me
in to do some kind of like shamanic rituals or

(12:41):
shamanic healing of the earth. I think that's what was
I think they were guardians of the Earth. I mean,
all of this stuff about you know, Reptilian's bad, you know,
Nordic's good, whatever, I just kind of feel like that's
sort of people that aren't really edgy catered about contact,

(13:02):
you know, throwing out these terms and classifying people and
that sort of thing. So yeah, I never I never
felt any of that. But I also knew working with
them that humans had powers that they don't use, and
they need to use to heal the earth, to heal themselves,

(13:25):
to heal the cosmos.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
So when you communicated with these creatures, were they talking
to you or was it telepathic?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Telepathic?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
And what were they explaining to you?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
There was a lot of what I would now as
a sophisticated twenty first century woman to describe as more
of a frequency education. Like I was shown a lot
of different different frequencies, different colors, different different areas, different
kinds of terrain within the earth. And I think that's

(14:05):
that's mostly what they were what they were teaching me.
But I actually think that you know, kind of going
back to the Druids and the Celts and you know,
a lot of nature based religions, ancient religions. I think
I think they understood a lot about multi dimensionality and
sort of how the earth connects itself, like trees and

(14:26):
roots of trees, and you know, kind of like in
the Redwoods. They knew a lot about preserving nature that
we've lost and don't really know what to do with
or even how to communicate to it.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
But they were definitely beans.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
How big were they?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
They were big. They were really quite big. But for
some reason, I was never afraid.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
They never they never How old were you when they
start taking you down there?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I think I'm so I knew I had extra trust
for contact at three, probably it was more like kindergarten
elementary school. When I started going under, not only would
they pull me under, but I had very, very vivid
memories of popping back out when I was all done,

(15:27):
and then going home.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I'm so intrigued by this. So when when they when
they picked you up and and would come get you,
were they taking you physically or were they taking you
with with spirit in mind, maybe taking you astray.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Astually well the only the only answer. And I've written
about this in my book Extoconscious Since your twenty first
century Mind, I write all about these experiences. The only
thing I can say about that as a I didn't
know anything about astral travel. As a child, I wouldn't
have known if that was happening or not. U B.

(16:09):
I had a very physical sensation of that happening to me.
It wasn't It wasn't just you know, popping out of
the body with no no physical senses, five senses. I
very much had five senses there and I and I
felt going under I felt coming out.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Hmmm. And how often was this happening?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I think it's it's sort of how my contact happens. Now.
I don't really plan it. Probably if I would keep
more track of how things are. Sometimes, you know, contact
kind of goes in waves. You know, you have a
lot of high activity. So I just want to also

(17:04):
add before we go onto that. So while that was happening,
I was also having extraterrestrial contact. So while I was
going underground, I was also having extraterrestrial contact.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Who is visiting it from the ets.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
So was I was visited by the ets, probably some
kind of grayish brown hooded beans, maybe a type of
gray A main main beans that I was integrating with

(17:41):
were the tall whites. A lot of integration with tall
whites that I was aware of at the time I
was taken up into the craft, and most of my
craft experiences that I described in Exoconsciousness your twenty first
century mind that book were very common. I mean, you know,
being in an arena, being taught by these beings, meeting

(18:05):
people later in life that would actually come up to
me and go, I was on a ship with you
as a child. So there's a there's that's not unusual
for contact ease to have someone come up and say
I was on a ship with you when I was
a child. There was also, you know, I had a

(18:27):
mentor on that ship who was a tall White who
mentored me and kind of told me what I was
going to be doing and who was going to be
working with. Interesting thing about the ship though, was that
when we were in the arena, I had this very
vivid memory of in the arena that when we were

(18:49):
being taught as a group as opposed to individually that
there were military people around, but they weren't seated with us.
They were standing all around the outside edges and we
were I was told explicitly to be nice to them
and don't and don't disrespect them, but be nice to

(19:11):
them because they were here there as visitors. And then
I also had I think Grant put me in his
book about you know craft and uh uh navigating craft
I had. I had vivid experiences and other people do too.

(19:33):
It's not uncommon contact days of being taught how to
navigate and propel the craft.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
You flew the craft.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, And I knew then that it was consciousness.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I am. That's something that I haven't had. That's my
that's my on my dream. That's the bucket list right there,
you know is too. I put it out to the
verse every night that you know, in the backwoods here
of SR headquarters, I want to walk outside after the
show one night, or even during the show during one

(20:09):
of the breaks, and have a craft sitting there, and
I hope I have the strength to get on that craft.
I want to do it. I want it so bad,
and I don't know if I'll get the opportunity, but
it would be really damn cool if it happened, I
hope you get it. Yes, yeah, Grant Cameron'll be our

(20:30):
guest later this week as well. So I mean it's
going to be absolutely great and a craft consciousness going on. Yeah,
so it is. It is a number of years ago
I had a person come up to me, a single
mom come up to me and say that her daughter

(20:53):
had been experiencing grays at their window and the second
story of their home. And so I talked to her
about the little the young lady about it. She's now
about eighteen, yes, seventeen eighteen now, but she actually told
me that she flew the craft as well. And I said, well,

(21:17):
what happens when you're on the craft? She goes. It
just goes wherever you want to go, you know. And
I said, well, what did you want to see she goes? Well,
I wanted to see some I wanted to go underwater,
I wanted to see some planets. I wanted to just explore.
I said, well, how many times did it happen? She
goes once or twice, you know, And it was just

(21:38):
so innocent. You knew she wasn't making it up, you know.
I mean, it's just unbelievable how some people get like yourself,
get that experience.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I didn't know enough to ask for I I just
it's funny. Also, like we're talking about how contact kind
of comes comes in waves. So I had a lot
of a lot of childhood contact, and then you know,
you go into adolescents and kind of you know, you
want to fit in and my body really wants to

(22:11):
talk about your experiences. So you know, things kind of
quieted down for a while. And then I got my education,
and but I was always that thread was always there,
and I was always pulling at you know, reading books,
meeting people. Yes, that's I mean that, that thread's always there.
And then I ended up coming to Phoenix, Arizona in

(22:35):
ninety two, and I ended up in a little town
outside of Phoenix called Fountain Hills. And just a couple
of days after I'd moved there, somebody came up to
me and said, oh, you have to meet Ruth Hover.
And I'm like, oh, sure, okay, I meet Ruth Hover.

(22:57):
She ends up having run the facilitated the longest running
experiencer group in the nation at that time. So for
the first time in my life, I'm sitting in this
little strip shopping center in Fountain Hills, Arizona, with these

(23:18):
people that are also experiencers just like me. I mean,
it was just an amazing thing that that happened in
my life. And they're still my friends today and it's
such a wonderful thing. And Ruth was actually doctor Hoover
was actually working with John Mack and Leo Sprinkle at
that time on the Peer Project at Harvard. So they

(23:39):
were trying to figure out how to, you know, work
with experiencers, how to you know, address them, how to
enable them to integrate what was happening to them, And
so that really led to my exo conscious work. But
during that time, I was a single mom at that time,

(24:00):
raising kids. My husband was gone excess when was gone,
and so it was pretty i would say, it's a
pretty financially financially challenging time, let's say. And so I
was having a lot of experiences that mirrored what had

(24:21):
gone through in childhood.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Rebecca, I'm going to get you to hold that thought
right there, because we are going to go to break
here at the bottom of the hour. As we move
forward in tonight's show, Rebecca Hardcastle, right is going to
tell us the power of the mind, the exo consciousness.
How we could all communicate, how we can all use
our intuitive ability to not only help us on this planet,

(24:45):
but maybe out in the stars as well. Maybe some
of us will take a ride on Commet Lemon when
Commet Lemon arrives in a few short hours. Check the
Big Dipper. Everybody, this is spaced out radio. All right,

(25:14):
we are clear, mister Cowley. How you doing. I'm just
gonna open up a window in here's a little bit
of that fall breeze in here. There we go. You

(25:39):
having fun, Rebecca, I'm having a blast.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
This is so much fun.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yes, your hair looks magnificent tonight.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
By the way, it is that is that is that
Scotch Irish?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
All right, everybody, let's make nice comments on how good
Rebecca's hair looks tonight. Mm hmmm. It'll start coming down
the pike here in a second.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Here, somebody comment in the in the chat that Hardcastle
is a cool name. Well, the Hardcastles come from Yorkshire,
which is a very esoteric area of England.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Miss Mary says your hair is beautiful. Oh thank you.
Miss Mary has nice hair too, Beno, amazing hair.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Do you all get together at any.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Time or No. No, these are just people from all
around the world.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Oh I love that. No, but do you ever have
a time where they're all a screen with you?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
No?

Speaker 4 (26:39):
No, I.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Have a very strict presentation to do for my radio stations.
So and so I have to be able to I
have to be able to stick to the format of
what I do.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know, hair is kind of an antenna.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Too, mm hmm. Birthday Girl says your hair is a legend.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Thank you. I'm getting embarrassed enough.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh you shouldn't. And philth Beno also says you have
amazing hair as well. That's for your chest hair.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Thanks bake Bino, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Is it Beno or bino? Uh?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Bino because it rhymes with beans.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
No, but there's two engine there, which makes it a
soft end. But then again, you're a guy who pronounces
four four year, so it doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You could even ask him, what's your cat's name?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
The great one is gargoyle. Oh he's my shadow.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Where's the cat cam?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I have to use another computer for that one, Dave.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I'm oh, I see, but I.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Can guarantee you right now there's a gargoyle to my left.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Oh yeah, where's the gremolin.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
He's downstairs with his mom.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
If hair is an antenna, imagine what Dave's beard does.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, because the SETI of beards.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Uh huh oh, there's Alaska's greatest athlete. How you doing,
my dear? M hm, you know what I got coming
for me? Dirty Phil.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Some hollyhock sees.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
No, I have a I have a Boston Cream donut coming.
Oh Boston Cream Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah man, your wife. Yeah, I'm pretty pumped right now.
I'm gonna lie. I could use a good donut right now.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Maybe I'll show off the donut in the next half hour.
We got about a minute to go here. We're just
timing out for our radio stations.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
And then I go back to no swearing mode.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Mm hmm. Yeah, you filthy animal.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Oh sorry, the cat's Clawa and you can't help but swear.
Oh here it comes again, Hello, mister gargoyle.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, out of control?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
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here xoconsciousness dot com is her website. As we start
to learn right now how we can tame our mind
and make it one with the universe. In a move

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of zen, she and alien contact Rebecca. Thank you so
much for being here tonight. How are you, I'm.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Interesting conversation, Oh absolutely absolutely. How did you start to
put the pieces together like a puzzle for learning about
exo consciousness?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, as I was beginning to say, during that time
when I was in Fountain Hills in that experiencer group,
I was reading a lot of books, and I'd always
read and still am an avid reader. But I was
beginning to put all the pieces together and things were
coming back into my life that I had experienced as
a child. So there's kind of the cyclical nature to contact.

(32:41):
And for example, I would be in bed at night
and an orb would show up in my room, go
across my room squealing, absolutely squealing in my ear to
wake me up. I'd wake up. I'd look up at
the ceiling and these symbols would be pushed down from

(33:02):
my ceiling and I would be telepathically told to read
the symbols. Remember the symbols. Read the symbols, And I
think what was happening was I was getting re educated
again from my childhood. So they were bringing it all
back back, circular, back to me. So I would, you know,

(33:25):
remember what had happened when I was a child and
I was on the craft and I was under the
ground because the reptilian showed up too, and I just
had this massive onslaught of beans and mantas beans, tall whites, Nordics, grays,
just one after the next coming in and doing this visitation. So,

(33:47):
as I said, I was a single mom. So I
was in bed one morning and I had to get
up and get everybody ready for school. So it's like
I had to go to work, the kids had to
go to school, back the lunches, make sure everybody got
to school on time. And I had one of those
alarm clocks, radio alarm clocks, and it had one of

(34:11):
those snooze buttons on it, and I remember I hit
this news button and I thought, okay, five more minutes.
I'm just going to sleep. Five more minutes. I hit
this snooze button, fell back on my pillow, and as
my head hit that pillow, then that word exo consciousness
came into my body. It didn't come into my head

(34:33):
like a download. It came in through my entire body,
and I was just gifted with that word, and I
knew that that's what I needed to do. I needed
to work with that term. And so I lived in
Phoenix at the time, and in nineteen ninety seven it

(34:53):
was the Phoenix Lights. So I was in this experience
of group, everybody's calling each other, going out and seeing
the Phoenix lights. Guess what, I don't get a phone call.
Nobody calls me. I don't see the Phoenix lights. And
I knew then that I was supposed to be a

(35:14):
consciousness researcher.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
What were you doing before that?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Before I became a consciousness research Yes, for about fifteen years,
I was an interfaith chaplain at actually Wright State University
next to Wright Patterson Air Force Base that ran all
the Blue Book of programs.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
So as you decided to go down this path with
extra consciousness, the one thing that kind of triggered me
when you said that was symbols. I actually got downloaded
with a symbol, oh goodness, four years ago now, and

(36:04):
it was a diamond like a herkum a diamond, and
then like long horns coming up from it. But the
horns were not touching the diamond. And the weird part
about it, I got to tell you this story for
you to understand because it's so weird. I'm not sure
if you know Old of Phillips or not, but good

(36:26):
friend of mine, and here we were. I'm in bed
and all of a sudden, three point thirty in the morning,
my phone rings and it's Olive and I answered, I'm like, hello, Olive,
and the phone goes click, and so I call or No.

(36:48):
Then the phone immediately rings again because something and maybe
butt dialed me, I don't know, And the phone rings
again and goes click, So I call Olive back, goes
to his voicemail. The phone calls me back, and all
of a sudden, I hear do do do? And then

(37:12):
my entire mind starts seeing these Herkhima diamonds with these
horns coming off of it. But they're not horns. They're
like straight lines. I describe them as horns because that's
what they look like, but I know they're not horns.
And they're coming in every color of the rainbow, and

(37:33):
they're passing this way in this way, and like across
my brain, it's like they're scattered and there's a blue
one that absolutely mesmerized me because it looked like the
blue on the first UFO I ever saw on the ground.
And I'm like, okay, tell me the story. What am
I supposed to learn here? What's going on? And it

(37:56):
started to fade out. I was like, no, no, no, no,
don't fade out, or we're learning here right now. You
woke me up at three in the morning, three thirty
in the morning. By this you need to keep going
and never did. But I have that shape etched my head.
I'm going to get a tattoo of it one of
these days. I'm going to get a tattoo of it

(38:18):
in the blue the next morning, but eleven thirty, I
get a call from old of Phillips and he says
to me, I never called you. And I said, what
do you mean you never called me? He goes, Dave,
my phone has no record of calling you, because I

(38:42):
think I had sent him a text message that night.
Are you okay? What's going on? Somebody gets a hold
of you at three thirty in the morning and keeps
multiple calling you multiple times. You get a little worried
and he's like, I never called you. And I went okay,
So I screenshotted the photo of when he caught his

(39:06):
phone called me and it was three point thirty three am,
which is obviously a numerology of nine, right, And it
was one of the weirdest things that ever happened. So
when you talk about symbols, I get that. I never
got it before, but I get it now. And what

(39:26):
do these symbols mean? What are they trying to tell us?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
So I'm going to define exoconsciousness. So exoconsciousness, by definition
for us is the innate human ability. So everybody's got it.
It's the innate human ability ability to communicate, contact, and
co create with extratrustrials, multi dimensionals, and spiritual beings. So

(39:56):
I think what you're talking about with the symbols, and
what I was I was given a tutorial end at
least twice in my life, was that these symbols carry
a frequency that we that that we identify with either
consciously or unconsciously. But they've been placed in our field

(40:20):
almost like placed in our fields, So they they may
have a plasma quality to them. I think, like a
plasma science quality to them, because DNA's plasma. There's a
lot of plasma qualities in DNA. DNA's intelligent plasma's intelligent

(40:42):
DNA self assembling plasma self assembling symbols are certainly self assembling.
So I think there's some kind of aspect to that
in terms of the symbols and how we read them.
So frequency intelligent, self assembling transmitting some kind of you

(41:03):
know when you said you have these things coming up
off of the diamond, that sounds like antenna.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
To me, Well, the audience on the radio won't be
able to hear this, but for our YouTube audience, this
is that's kind of Oh, that's beautiful, kind of like
a diamond. It looks like a necklace to be honest,
like the diamond looks like a pendant.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Or it could be it could be a it could
be a couple of things. It could be something in
your brain. It could be an implant. It has an
antenequality to it, and it's a possibility that the symbols
you receive that I receive and others who are contact
these and once again everybody has that inate ability, those

(41:48):
may be frequencies that are that we are carrying in
our body. Somehow. They don't have to be you know,
a metal implant that goes off every time we go
through the TSA at the airport. It could be something
very different than that, and it could be connecting us,

(42:09):
and we just don't have the science and the knowledge
to know what it is.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
As we open up our minds to try and expand
them more towards a consciousness light, a lot of people
will sit there and say, how do we do it?
You know, how do we get there? How do we
enlighten ourselves to embrace the powers that we all have
within us.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I think it starts pretty easy. I think it starts
with believing that that's who you are. And I think
that first step of believing that that's who you are
leads you to begin to see things that heretofore had
been unseen to you, and get information from nature or

(43:00):
from other people, or from downloads that heretofore were maybe
ignored by you and not not seen by you. It's funny.
So I follow a scholar. His name's David A. Hughes.
He left Cambridge University and he taught, He taught in
a few other places, and during COVID, David said, I

(43:21):
can't do this anymore. I can't. I have to speak
out of truth about what happened with COVID, and so
he began to work independently. Has got a sub stack,
David A. Hughes On that I highly recommend, and he
developed a theory called omni war, which is really a
war that we're all going through right now, like COVID

(43:43):
being on one aspect of it, of an unseen and
unseen force that we're all dealing with. And I think,
I think the more that this we're dealing with. So
I study a lot about geoengineering. Those are two great

(44:05):
extent unseen forces. You know, you go into mystery schools,
that's all they do is talk about unseen forces. So
I think as we're moving into this era of unseen forces,
whether they're viruses or frequencies from harp or body area
networks that people talk about, genetic technology, all of that's unseen.

(44:28):
I think that humans, in order to survive, will probably
enrich and engage in their unsetinabilities. And I think a
lot of people will come online and be able to

(44:49):
see what they had not seen before just to survive.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
I always wonder about this question because you I don't
really understand how the mind works. I don't think any
of us really do. Even a lot of scientists probably
struggle with that as well. But how do we have
all of this going on? And where has it gone
over the years. If we all are said to have

(45:19):
this inate ability to be able to astro project, to
be able to use our consciousness to pick up signals,
to pick up you know, intuition, I mean we all
have that intuitive being. I don't think a lot of
us are actually, you know, have the full antenna going
up towards the sky to allow that signal to come

(45:40):
through positively. So how do we train ourselves to open
up because there's so much going on in life right
now on a daily basis that people don't have time
to turn their mind off even when they're sleeping.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Well, yeah, there's studies about dream and hacking into dreams
and that sort of thing. I think you pick your path.
I don't think there's any one path to go. I
think we're way, way way beyond that. I think you pick,
you pick your path. You pick meditation, you pick yoga,

(46:19):
you pick talking to trees, you pick beat in nature,
you pick trying to communicate with sasquatch. You kind of
pick however it is it could be something like you
pick being a mother or a father and raising a
child and getting this this this intimate relationship with a

(46:40):
child or with a or with a partner. I think
it comes in various ways of being grounded. Some people
look at the stars and go out at night and
community commune with that. Some people go to the cee fives.
I think that none of those are the best and
none of those are the worst, and all work. That's

(47:01):
my opinion. They all work. And as that's expanding and
growing ever larger, it's very interesting that we have, at
the same time, in parallel step with our advancing and
expanding consciousness, we have transhumanism and artificial intelligence, which is

(47:22):
the opposite, which is, you know, using electronics and artificial
means to extend life or to extend our human abilities
and to put us into what's called a closed system
of cybernetics, which is AI and transhumanism. So I think
there's always this. If you're on Earth, one of my

(47:45):
friends nance you tear, she'd be a great guest for you.
She always calls it like pick your dance partner. Who's
your dance partner? You know, if you're an Earth, if
you're on Earth and you're a human, and we are
exo conscious humans on me. We're not walking around at
some cause play acting like we're ets or whatever. We're
humans and we want to be the best, most expansive

(48:07):
humans that we can be. And I think that if
you're an expansive human, you're going to become more and
more aware that there are forces on the Earth that
have been here a long time that have shut down
a lot of what we are now developing because we
need to do it to survive, and maybe we didn't

(48:30):
need it before to survive. Yeah, as a planet and
as as as a civilization.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Okay, are we at the point now where you know
whether it's spiritually or extraterrestrially that they want us to
be able to pick up this type of signal.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I'm increasingly Dave, believing that there's a couple of things
happening right now. I think exoconscious humans are expanding their
consciousness and their experiences and their awareness of what's happening.
And at the same time, I think there are forces
on the Earth that want to shut that down and

(49:16):
want to control it and want to put it into
an engineered system where we're all being controlled, and I
think that. So my last book was Exoconscious Humans will
free will survive in an increasingly non human world. So
it's basically I looked at transhumanism and I looked at
exoconscious humans humans, and I compared the two, and it's

(49:40):
become pretty obvious to me. It was obvious to me
right away. It kind of threw me into a trauma
spin that the transhumans really wanted to control everything, including
the ets, including religion, including our spiritual self, including our soul.

(50:01):
They wanted to control and gather everything into their artificial system,
including ets, and I think what's happened. I think that's
happened before probably maybe you know, different different times in
civilizations that humans have tried to attempt this. It's always
failed Earth. Really, I mean, all this doom and you

(50:24):
know the Earth is going to go extinct and all
of this, the Earth always survives. I don't care if
it's Noah or who it is. You know, these ancient
flood narratives that the Earth still survives, Humans still survives,
And I think that there's very much they want to
control human et. They see humans et as a threat,

(50:49):
so they just invert the message, and they say, oh,
et is going to attack you through I Atlas is
coming in. Be careful, it's going to attack. It's going
to attack you. It's going to attack Earth. So they
just invert what they're actually doing and act like it's
going to destroy the humans. So it's just an old story.
It's an old it's an old attempt at power. It's

(51:11):
going to fail. It's already failing.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Quite frankly, are there et species that want to use
the mind consciousness program in order to control who and
what we are on this planet?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I think that's been going on a long time. I
mean Contact Ease has certainly experienced that. That's why for
exoconscious humans, we believe in a few things. Number One,
we believe that when you have a contact experience, you
learn to emotionally integrate it. So you're not living in trauma,

(51:48):
you're not living in fear, you're not living in twenty
four to seven anxiety. You're emotionally integrated and calm. So therefore, yoga, meditation,
ce fives communities, whatever you want to pay. The second
thing is we believe in critical thinking and discernment. You
have to you were given reason and thinking for a

(52:11):
reason it's there to be used. So we use our discernment,
we use our critical thinking. We also gather in communities
because we gather in trusted communities that learned that. And
then finally, we believe that as a human species that
we have a peer to peer relationship with extraterrestrials and

(52:31):
we have a human sovereignty in that relationship. So it's
not really a situation of being mind controlled or being
genetically modified, but it's a situation that we as humans
have the ability to say no, I don't want that contact,
or no, I don't want that genetic modification, or no,

(52:52):
I don't want that relationship. And I think this may
be probably the first time on that that sovereignty switch
has been flipped by humans.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Is that where free will comes in.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
I think free will is part of it. I think
are just our natural innate thinking abilities, emotional abilities, mental abilities,
spiritual abilities. I think all of those come into it.
It's not just one thing. But we have a peer
to peer relationship. And we talk a lot about in

(53:35):
our extra conscious groups of if you don't want the contact,
you say no and you're left alone.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Always interesting. Yet some people will claim that the free
will sometimes does not work well.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
A lot of people are now claiming that we live
in assimilation and we don't have any free will. So
there's nothing like convincing humans that they don't have any
free will. Right, you're live in a simulation.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Guess who tells us we live in a simulation. I
know I don't know all about all the AI guys.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
That that's one I haven't really bought into just yet. No, right,
I just haven't bought into the whole simulation matrix type
of it's an.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
AI, it's an AI worldview. So a simulation theory is
really something called a closed loop, yes, and that was
really brought forth by a mathematician named John von Neuman.
He's the one that came up with the closed loop cybernetics.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Right on that note, I'm going to get you to
hold on right there, Rebecca, because hard to believe we're
already through an hour here. I got some big time
questions coming up for Rebecca Hardcastle right on Exo Consciousness
her website exo consciousness dot com. So let's make sure
we tuned on in for hour two coming up right

(55:04):
after this. This is based out radio with hopes Dave Scott.
All right, Rebecca, we are clear. We got about six minutes.

(55:27):
We're gonna turn this over to dirty Filth here so
he could show us what he's making here and uh,
we'll see it in a couple of minutes.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Rebecca, Okay, it's turned over to dirty filth. Now, everybody,
let me just sucker a little bit.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah, scribble struggle there yo. Here we are with my
Patterson gimblin sasquatch photo. It's not quite a photos a
picture is today. I think it's like the oh what
what was it the fiftieth anniversary or something. I think

(56:07):
nineteen sixty seven is when Patterson, Gilman, Patterson and Giber
filmed the famous Sasquatch film. I'll just say film like
seventy times there, dude film. But yes, so I figured
I was gonna do this one tonight because it's appropriate.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
It's also it's also my pal's birthday, and for me,
if you're listening, happy name day, my friend. I'm glad
to have known you for like twenty plus years. Anyways,
so here we have sasquatch snrn through the forest and
these damned humans with the cameras.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
It's like probably like thirty eight millimeters or something.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
If that's even a camera specification, please feel free to
prove me wrong. Otherwise, everybody unless there he goes suntering
through when he gets busted.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Poor god.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Actually I was gonna use orange, man, I could use
yellow for them. The exclamations that that scene, I was like,
oh no, and seen.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
By those humans.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
But to be fair, they do say the Pattison Gibblin
film that Sasquatch is female Sasquatch. Now, I'm not the
authority on any of this stuff, and I'm just a
casual observer, a tourist, if you will. And I would
have to agree with him. And I didn't think really
anything of it because I've never drawn like a female Sasquatch.

(57:37):
So I might have to do up the lady Sasquatch.
I mean, we already have Lady night Crawler. I mean
she's pretty cute looking, look at her thanks dress and everything.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah, so I think you might have to do that. Now.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
I do believe I'm gonna have to add missus Sasquatch
to my cartoon repertoire here. I don't think that she
would join mister Bigfoot going out and stealing Saskatoon berry
pies on a Friday from Grandma's windowsill, but you never
know she may actually be doing some woodmocks to.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Have Grandma look out the door.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
And the secret for the cartoons for Grandma's window sill
and Grandma herself is you never get a seer because
I in my cartoon world there's not really any humans.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
It's kind of like Charlie Brown's teacher. You never get
a seer.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
And speaking of Sasquatch, I have a this is this
is for my second book here, but here's Dave getting
pampered by a Bigfoot's that's how Canadians get massages. They
go to the massage parlor and the bigfoot just wax
them of the spine a few times with a hockey stick.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
And yes it is, it's covered by insurance. It's a
Canadian thing. Trust me. I know I live here.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
I hope everyone's having a wonderful leaving and oho justice
true seeker and no, you know what, I'm not gonna
be able to go through everybody within like two minutes here.
So I would just like to say thanks to everybody
for hanging out and thanks everybody for watching me on
Saturdays you'd like to watch more Dirty Phil's drug cartoons
and the cat camera, which.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Is a new thing that I invented, patent pending.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
It's every Saturday at three pm Mountain or two pm
Pacific time once based on radio I drug cartoons. People
get to ask me questions like Dirty Philth, what's the
best kind of pickle juice?

Speaker 3 (59:45):
And it's always garlic pickle juice. There's no other way
around it. And I'm still waiting for the day when
Dave's chair moves. It's gonna be a ghost one day.
It's going to jump down and sit in that sucker
and just move it to little bit. Hello, the Jaquita.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
It's the yaquita, by the way, Dave as well baked
Bino in the Jaquita.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You say.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
It's it's the Jequita Dave and baked Bino Jaquetta.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Nope, it's not jaquita.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Uh. I believe you're mistaken, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
You are just odd.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
I know, okay, you Dave Filth, You're the best thing.
Wonderful Rebecca, thank you, that's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Wow, all right, thank you, Dirty Philth. Hello to Blue Cruise,
Hello to Woo Pooh. How you guys doing who else
do we got that's snuck in here? Maggie Shepherd, how
are you and I think we're caught up here? Yeah,
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Let's bring in our guest, Rebecca Hardcastle Wright. She is
the founder of xoconsciousness dot com if you want to
check it on out, and we're going to learn how
to open up our minds here so that way we
could tune in, tap in to all things that we're

(01:02:52):
not seeing on our current frequency. Rebecca, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
I would I would say that we in America, and
part of it is because of the Brain Initiative that
was such a big deal during the Bush two years.
He started the brain initiative and the Obama kicked off
the Obama Brain Initiatives. So it's been going on now
for twenty five years, and we keep we keep focusing

(01:03:20):
knowledge in our neural core Texas and neural biology, and
in fact, I think to really become exo conscious. It
has to be a whole body experience. You can't you
can't think yourself into it. Yeah, you have to use
other other parts of your body. You have to use

(01:03:40):
your other bodies, You have to use your ask. You
get to know your astral body, get to know your
etheric body, uh, and get to know you know your chakras,
your meridians, your your spine, your vagus, nerve that calms you,
your feet, your hands, all of that's involved in contact.

(01:04:00):
It's it's a full body. It says, a full on
body experience, and you just to link it right here
in the brain. You're never going to get there. I
mean a lot of people, you know, they spend a
lot of time with intentions. Intentions are really a mental
things at its base. You really have to get your

(01:04:21):
whole body into what it is that you want to accomplish.
And sometimes a lot of times that involves moving your body.
That's why you know, personally, I choose yoga. That's kind
of my path, is the yoga path, because I like
how it kind of lights up everything inside of you,
inside of your body, and and you move it. I mean,

(01:04:43):
knowledge moves. Knowledge isn't stagnant. Energy isn't stagnant. It moves
and you have to and you have to move with it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Does it start with meditation or is it just more
than that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
I think meditation is good. I think meditation is good
because you know, at the base of meditation is that
it's going to calm your mind. It's going to calm
that you know, that monkey mind, that mind that talks
all the time, and it's going to put you in
altered states. You know, there's I think meditation by and
large is an ulter state that you go into, but

(01:05:19):
you could also go into alter states with hypnotherapy and
breathing exercises and that sort of thing. So it's just
kind of learning to I think what that does is
that switches off all of that ongoing chatter that's we're
all subject to with with you know, with social media,

(01:05:44):
with right all the noise around us.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Should we need doing us in a quiet setting or
should we be doing it in a group setting?

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
I think both ways work. I guess I'm kind of impartial.
So I've been running coaching groups for about three years now,
Dave and I just I just kind of felt like
if I could gather a group of people who were
really who wanted to talk about their contact, who wanted

(01:06:21):
to emotionally integrate their contact, to learn about how to
do that, to learn about how to discern things, to
get together in a group discussion and discern. I think
more and more you can do it on your own,
but sometimes that kind of becomes an echo chamber. So
I don't know. I'm a real advocate for groups. I

(01:06:42):
think small groups work. So I run weekly coaching and
all groups of groups, and I also run monthly coaching
of groups. So this past Saturday we had monthly coaching.
I have a substack, Rebecca Hardcastle right at substack, and
I run that through my substack, And this past Saturday
we had a long discussion on three I Atlas and

(01:07:05):
what it meant and what the contact these in the community,
how they felt about it. And I offered some information
about Auvy Lobe that I had. I'm a big researcher,
so I dug up a lot of information about what
his background was and sort of what he represented, which
is very different than what you read on X or wherever.

(01:07:26):
So yeah, I'm I'm a community girl.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I mean, I just being in a community. It just
it makes me feel good. It makes me feel happy,
It makes me feel like you get this kind of
resonance going and it's kind of like you with you know,
reading the names, this wonderful feeling of you know, we're
all on the same frequency. We're just like diving together.

(01:07:50):
We get what we're talking about. And yeah, it's just
I think you make momentous breakthroughs like that. I'm not
saying you can't have, you know, a Walden Pond moment
and go out and live by yourself in a cabin
and not have or up in the home. Hillow is
in a in a cave. But I think increasingly today

(01:08:14):
it's it's about shared It's about shared energy and and
moving that move moving that energy and information through your community.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
As we open up our minds and gain consciousness for
everything that we that we have and the powers that
we be that we have the ability pardon me, that
we have to do this. You mentioned on your website
that you can this will create future open communication with
among species and intelligences as creating a timeline of peace

(01:08:47):
and health. How do we know when we're having that
connection that frequency to tune into that because a lot
of people may tune into that and say, how do
I know this? Is it just my imagination making this up?
That I'm actually communicating with beings up in the stars

(01:09:07):
or the spirits that walk among us.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Well, I think for most people, or many people, or
I would say a large majority of experiencers that I've
worked with over the years, they often go through the
healing door. They go through the door of becoming a healer,
and nine times out of ten, the first thing they
do is heal themselves. And so they go out into
this field of consciousness. Maybe they've gone to doctors or whatever,

(01:09:36):
and they for the first time, go out in this
field of consciousness and start to bring in information to
heal themselves. And that's oftentimes people's first contact experience. They'll
get visitations. Maybe they'll go on a trip and then
be in a hotel room and a bean will show up,
a mantis bean will show up and get the information

(01:09:59):
about he I mean, I just I just hear these
stories continually, and it's almost like the well that they've
that they've drawn from is their own illness, their own sickness,
or their own needs. It could be mental sickness, it
could be emotional sickness. It could be physical sickness, but
they internally want to heal and that's when the messages

(01:10:23):
start start tumbling and coming through.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Right, So do you think then when the messages that
coming through, that we will have the ability to understand
what they mean and where they're coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Well, I think that's really why you need to be
in a community. I mean, you you can go online
and ask chat, GPT what it means, or you know,
look it up on Google, but there's you know, Dave,
there's something really intimate about being in a community and
just being vulnerable enough to say, you know, I had

(01:10:59):
this ex experience. Has anybody else had it? Or I've
had For example, we just did last month, we did
a long discussion on missing time and people have had
you know, reoccurring missing times and not not been able
to understand them. And so we had a long conversation
about what that meant and what people experienced and what

(01:11:21):
the upshot of that was, and it was very meaningful
to people. I think that's where the information begins to
kind of put When you're in a community, roots go
down about that information and people start emailing each other.
Did you feel this?

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I felt this?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
You know, what's going on here? I think that's it's
a very very You're not going to get that from AI,
and you might get some from a book. But there's
something about exto consciousness is subjective and experiential.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
I love it. I love it. It's so interesting. You
also put on your website Living the Paranormal as Normal,
joining groups that include exoconsciousness, dear death experiences, psychics, mediums,
remote viewers, energy workers, and healers. How do these all
tie in with the mind?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Well, I think they're all experiences, you know, paranormal experiences
or psychokinesis experiences, or remote viewing or near death experiences,
download experiences. They're all psychic experiences. And there's really no

(01:12:42):
i would say, academic or religious place for us to go,
and so we have to create our own place.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Where's that place? How do we know? In that place?

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
I created exoconscious Coaching, created the substock and the extraconscious community.
I mean there's a lot of other communities like that.
Find the community you like and join it. But I
think there's also I don't know what's going on. I
don't know what's causing it. I don't know if AI
is causing it. But there's a definite bifurcation of timelines

(01:13:19):
going on right now, and it's being engineered.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Who's engineering it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Well, if you want to control everything, you want to
control all knowledge. You also want to control time, and
you want to control space, and you want to control ets.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
So is it the ets that are doing this or
is there a subspecies of humans that are doing this?
Or political for political game.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I don't think it's I don't even think it's political.
I think it's I think that there's probably one of
the main driving forces. If you heard a technocracy Peter
Wood in technocracy, I'm sorry, Patrick Wood in technocracy, No,
I have not. He's a fascinating man that studied the
birth of technocracy or transhumanism, and in the late eighteen

(01:14:13):
late eighteen hundreds, it kind of came out of that
eugenics an enthusiasm, you know, population control, group of people
that wanted to develop this utopia, utopian theory that they
could kind of stamp on everybody. And in the thirties
that really took off that that transhuman that that kind

(01:14:37):
of stream of transhumanism is actually economic, So it wasn't political,
it was economic. So that brings us to They're really
the group that established the control grid that's going to
be the digital ID that's going to bring in central
bied digital currency.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
So basically it's fighting against the powers that be that
want to, you know, bring in all the stuff that
controls people and ties them all into sheep.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Yeah, I mean, I mean that's been going on for
a long time. But the interesting thing I think about
extraconsciousness is you look at these elite groups, some of
them black magicians. I mean, let's face it, there's black
magicians and they're very, very powerful. They've you know, infiltrated
a lot of different high level groups and they they

(01:15:31):
you know, they do their spells and whatever, and so
I think there's there's a need to control everything. And
I don't know if this is stemming from people that
have emotional needs to control or fear of dying. I mean,
let's face it, look at Silicon Valley. There's a massive

(01:15:54):
fear of dying in Silicon Valley. I mean, let's live forever.
And the beauty of dying mean is that you kind
of wipe the slate clean. And if you can't wipe
the slate clean, then you know, you might want to
a saint to live forever, but you want to handler
to live forever. I don't think so. So yeah, there's

(01:16:14):
I think they have a fear of dying. I think
they have a fear of their own immortality. I think
they have a fear of being found out, kind of
that they're an imposter syndrome. They also have a fear
of a power greater than themselves, whatever you call it, God,
the soul, the spirit, the after life. They have a

(01:16:39):
fear of that. They're not comfortable with it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
What happens when we finally connect, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I think we are connecting. So we're a post disclosure group.
The reason we call ourselves a post disclosure group is
we've already connected. Like I don't need Congressman burrelsome or
Colonel or anybody in the ufology field and exopolitics or
Richard Dolan or you know all these people, you know,

(01:17:08):
Louella Zondo and Chris Mellan. I don't need them to
tell mebout disclosure. We've already done that. We're already connected.
They're just kind of having a show.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
And I agree with you on that because people who've
already had the experience, they are already in the know
of what is going on. If they've had contact, they
already know that there's more to this than just what
we see as a facade here on this planet. But
for those who may not have had the ultimate experience,
you know, how do we how do we push that fold?

(01:17:44):
How do we get to that point where we can
look up and say this is real? Because everybody's skeptical
in something, what we deal with creates a lot more skeptics.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Well, that's why. It's experience, That's why that that's why.
You know, if you look at what's happening in youupology
today with the takeover by intelligence, military, and government, they
wanted to push everything into nuts and bolts, like you've
got to have nuts and bolts or you know, you're
not gonna you know, there's we're not gonna convince anybody. Well,

(01:18:21):
what's going to convince people are these small groups that
are kind of grassroots and grow in strength and visibility,
and eventually people start understanding that that's it's okay that
they've had contact. There's there's very few contact deees that

(01:18:42):
feel comfortable going out into the world and telling everybody
what's happened with them and what they know, but they
can tell it in their groups, and those groups can grow,
and I think that's a voice that's not going to
be silenced. If anything, it's going to get louder and
louder and louder. And the other thing I think would
be important for your community to know is that we

(01:19:06):
really emphasize co creation. So we I'm a believer that
you can tell your story and you can write a
book like I did, and or you could come on
a podcast like y'all like yours and tell your story
and then what and then what? So the next step

(01:19:26):
for me is co create something. Make something, make your download,
made the information that you received, make it have an impact,
make a tool, make it innovation, register a patent, write
a book, team up with a group of scientists, do
a peer reviewed study, do something with it. You can't

(01:19:50):
just keep telling your story. And the more that people
branch out, Like we wrote the Planetary Constitution, we got together,
took about three or four months. We put it all
together and we put it out there and now it's
a year old and every year we're going to celebrate it.
Every year it's going to get more and more visible.
You have to do something. You can't just talk about

(01:20:13):
your contact. And when we crossed that bridge, there's no
going back. There's no going back.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
The problem is are the people willing to accept the message?
You're fighting an uphill battle.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
I don't think so anymore. I think that so when
I work with edgar Mitchell, the astronaut doctor edgar Mitchell
a PAULA fourteen, we were working with zero point energy,
and just about every scientist that we worked with which
getting shut down. So some of them been killed, some
of them have been silenced, some of them have been ignored,

(01:20:54):
some of them have been denied. So that was two
thousand and eight to two thousand and sixteen, seventeen after
he passed away, I have to say eight years later,
it's a pretty different terrain out there. Everybody knows that

(01:21:17):
there's alternative forms of energy. People know that right now
all the money that they could be going to co
creations is getting sucked up into the control grid of AI.
So which data centers now they say are going to
cost five hundred trillion dollars or something. So everything's all

(01:21:38):
the money, all the innovation is being sucked into this
closed circuit system that's really not meaning expectations, So I
do think that there's going to be a revolt against that.
It's already Bill Gates is already pulling back funding for it,
which is a major step. So I think a lot
of that money that those innovative ideas, I think they're

(01:22:00):
going to be going into things like like co creations,
consciousness technology. There's a man in our group, Nick Christera.
He created a consciousness technology called the Beacon and we
all launched it. It's on our it's it's on our
YouTube channel. People are doing these things. I worked with

(01:22:22):
a man who just recently passed away named Lee Gurtis
that got all kinds of downloads and contact, and he
created something called sarah Set, which was a thing where
your brain for trauma patients, where your brain looked at
your brain and healed itself. Those things don't just come
out of nowhere. There's all kinds of things being seated

(01:22:43):
right now. It's not an uphill battle. That's why I
think it's got to be in a community.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
We got a minute to go before we have to
go to break in the bottom of the hour. Rebecca
health Hardcastle, right, is our guest tonight on Spaced Out radio.
You know, we talk about open communication and you know,
freedom of expression and manifesting contact. Is this something that
we should do? Are there beings out there that are

(01:23:13):
wanting us to take that next spiritual step to be
among them?

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
I think you've got to pull it back into humans.
What do the humans want? What do the humans want?
And how are they going to proceed? If we inside
of us believe that we have cosmic consciousness, which I
believe we do, then we're the ones that have to initiate.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
HM.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Where are the peer to peer?

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Where does that start though? Because that's what people look
to their government officials for.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
It's not going to start there, that's for sure. I
lived in DC for six years. Not going to start there.
They got they have other priorities. They serve other purposes
in life. They're there to collect your taxes and send
you your Social Security and make sure your roads work,

(01:24:10):
and you know, make sure that people aren't being fraudulent
in their trades. With the FCC, they've got a different role.
Their role is not to have contact. That's our role.
I respect their role, the military, the government, the intail.
That's not my role. I have my role and it's
up to me to be respected for it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I hear you on that, and I don't know if
it's possible.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
I may.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I don't want to be skeptical of it, but I'm hesitant.
Can we use the term fun?

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
It's fun to try.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Oh, I understand that, and it's worth trying it. Lord knows,
I've done it enough on a personal level. I would
recommend it to anybody, but I also try and see
the bigger picture as well. Rebecca, hold on right there.
We're going to get some audience questions when we come
back next half.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
You're listening to Space Outdo with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
All right, we are clear, we are clear.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Quite the media empire here.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
I wish, oh you do look at all the things
you have.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
In what?

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
In what way? What are you looking at?

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Well, you've got a podcast, you've got a YouTube, you've
got a TikTok, you've got a community, you're doing all
kinds of creative things. School media empire.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
I also barbecue a good steak too.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Just sure you go. Yeah, you've really done well. It's impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
It would be no, thank you, thank you. I'm very
humbled to hear that from you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Yeah, It's a piece of work, you know. I wish
it would be so much more if I had the
ability to do this full time, you know, having to
work a daytime job to subsidize the nighttime jobs. It's

(01:26:33):
difficult at times, like last night, I had so much
to do, but I was just so exhausted from the weekend,
you know, in working and working on the show on Saturday,
and then taking the time to go out to Flight
twenty one yesterday, get home and literally I'm sitting in

(01:26:55):
my studio, It's about nine twenty in the evening, and
I'm just like, I'm done. I'm exhausted. Like I literally
heard this voice in my head saying, Dave, you're exhausted,
go to bed.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
What day was that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Sunday? I had that same experience on Sunday. Yeah, I
couldn't move. I was just I got two lead feet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I wonder if part of it's the Colonel Mass ejections
have been coming in.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
I don't know, but I know that normally I get
to bed around one o'clock in the morning every night,
and about every five to six months, I crash hard early. Yeah,
and that was my day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
I even took like a half an hour's shower this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
It was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
I get it. I think there's so much coming in
right now through the media, through the coronal mass ejections.
And by the way, Susan Man, which will be a
really good guests on your show also because she's getting
her PhD in Germany on the chronal mass ejections and
how they affect our physical body and our emotional body,

(01:28:10):
should be a really good guest. So I think we're
we have to really tend to our body in this
and take care of ourselves. And I do believe that.
I mean, this is really impressive what you've done, how
you're managing all this. I mean just I'm very impressed

(01:28:31):
by it. I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
It will I'm working on something, you know. I've got
a few irons in the fire right now with some things,
and if I can get it all to work, it
will be pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
I shouldn't say if it's more like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
When oh yeah, one foot in front of the other.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Yeah, So you know, I'm I've got some good pieces
in place right now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
We got great pieces in place.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Do you know how many radio shows like this fail?

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Yes? The problem is when one fails about thirteen more
pop up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Yeah, but regardless, regardless, I think that your stability and
your dedication and your discipline, I think, I don't know,
I'm kind of the same way. I really believe that
in the end, that counts for something that people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
The hard part for me is twofold. Number one is time,
and number two with the with the extension and the
power of social media and algorithms and creating videos and
everything like, I would never be able to sleep, know,

(01:30:00):
and my daytime job. I'm very thankful for it, A
blessed with what I do. But the ownership now that
I work for doesn't allow me the time to put
into this as the previous ownership did. So it's it's
tougher on me. It's more mentally exhausting. So we're coming

(01:30:24):
back here in about five seconds. But thank you for
your kind words.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
I really do appreciate it. You know I'm there with you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Here we go, Here we go with the second half

(01:30:52):
of spaced out Radio. Hard to believe we're already halfway
through this. One's cruising on by. My name is Dave Scott.
Rebecca Harte Castle right is our guest. We're going to
get to her momentarily, but first we want to remind
all of you that if you missed portions of this
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(01:31:14):
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right her website exoconsciousness dot com. As we look to

(01:31:38):
turn the human mind into an atenant for all consciousness
to come on into your body and take over and
expand your mind. Rebecca, thank you so much for being
here tonight. We greatly appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Thanks for having me, Dave, it's been a pleasure every minute. Well,
thank you for inviting me into your community. It's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Problem We love having you here. You can come back too, Okay.
T Bone is asking to kick off the audience questions,
what is your take on the telepathy tapes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
I'm of a divided opinion on the telepathy tapes. Tea Bone,
thank you for asking the question. If you want to
look up my substack, Rebecca Hardcastle right at substack. I
wrote an extensive, an extensive substack on the telepathy tapes

(01:32:37):
and examined the woman who brought forth not Kai Dickens,
but what's the woman that brought forth the telepathy tapes.
I'm just blanking on her name right now, Diane Path,
and I did. I'm like, what's going on here? So
one of the things I looked at Tebone was I
looked at I love to look at historical timelines, like like,

(01:32:59):
how were things merging in a timeline? And one of
the things I realized was that that RFK, So rfk's
movement had really been a grassroots movement, kind of what
Dave and I were talking about earlier, that these grassroots movement,
It was a grassroots movement of mothers whose children were

(01:33:21):
injured with vaccines or you know whatever. It was really
the mothers that said we have to handle this situation.
And they kept pushing and pushing and pushing, and then
RFK came forward to try to address more scientific studies
of what's happening. And so during that time that RFK

(01:33:43):
was coming on board, that was in November twenty twenty four,
and he was November December twenty twenty four, and he
was really coming out hard about vaccines and we're going
to find the solution to autism. And autism is like
some places, like in California, it's one in one in

(01:34:07):
like twelve kids. Now nationwide, I think it's one in
thirty two. It's it's amazing, and you know that. Of
course they give all the reasons for that. But if
you've ever worked in education, which I have, and you
know really truly autistic children, they do not have an
easy life, nor do their parents. It's twenty four to seven,

(01:34:31):
very very difficult and challenging life. And so I looked
at where RFK was getting all of this back, pushback
by all the mainstream media up until I think it
was Christmas, so December twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, all
this pushback. You know, vaccines are good, autism is fine,

(01:34:55):
there's no problem. And then on January thir Boom in
rules telepathy tapes, which put an absolute spin on autism,
that these children had all these psychic abilities and you
know they go to the hill and all of this, well,
my personal opinion is all children have psychic abilities, not

(01:35:18):
just autistic children. All children have psychic abilities. Number one
and number two. I started looking at her medical background,
and she came out of Johns Hopkins University. Johns Hopkins
is very very closely tied to the government and was
involved in a lot of mp ultra type scientific work.

(01:35:40):
And she at had also worked with people at Johns
Hopkins and around around the nation, scientists that had actually
written books that said, you know, there is no link
between autism and vaccines, there is no link, on and
on and on, proving, proving, proving, And so I kind

(01:36:00):
of wonder whether or not I don't know who paid
for her and Kai Dickens to come out, but you know,
how does someone come out of nowhere? Because Dave and
I know how difficult the algorithms are. You don't come
out of nowhere and end up number one on Spotify.
There's something else. There's something else going on. I'll just

(01:36:21):
say that. So I think there's something else. Was that
she was there as a diversion from from the vaccine,
from from the vaccine debate. But as I said, I
really go into it in depth on my substack on
that was actually part of a psionics series that I wrote,
and I wrote a whole that's like a five part

(01:36:45):
substack series, and I wrote a whole section on the
telepathy taste. So once again, my opinion is, so my
husband and I have eight children together, so he has
four and I have four, so I know a little
bit about and we have a whole lot of grandchildren
as a result of that, those eight kids. So it's
Linda family. So I just want to say, every kid's telepathic.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Very true. And I think parents, you know, to that
extent are very telepathic with their children as well. And
I think that's something that telepathy tapes kind of bring out,
because I mean it's one of those things where I remember,
you know, I'm a dad, I've had, you know, two children,
and I recall like I could be at one end

(01:37:29):
of Walmart, you know, looking at the sports section, and
then you know, on the other end, I could hear
my son or my daughter cry as an infant, and
you immediately recognize, like, you know, that's your child. That is,
you know, in a little bit of distress or whatever

(01:37:53):
it may be. You know, maybe they fell or whatever
it may be, and you know, I mean, you shouldn't
be able to you shouldn't know. There's a number of
kids in there, could have been any of them, but
you know, darn well, that's your kid. Now you leave
what you're doing and you go help them, you know.
And there's so much of that that goes on that
we just don't pick up on. It's amazing. Let's go

(01:38:15):
to Polly. Here, does an Oregon implant change the planetary
ethics of your timeline.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Implants? In terms of like a hard implant, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
I would assume she means like an alien implant.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Oh, an alien implant? Oh, okay, No, I think I
think there's various implants. I think a lot of implants
are frequency based, like we kind of talked about earlier.
I don't think they're metal. I don't think they're meta materials.
I think they're really frequency implants. And I think that

(01:39:00):
probably so in our group when we talk about implants,
we talk about the fact of, you know, once once
an implant is discovered, oftentimes within the group, the person
who received the implant will come to the root to
the realization that they they had some kind of previous
agreement that they would receive this implant, that they were

(01:39:21):
somehow connected to these species. So I would say an
organ implant as an alien implant would probably enhance the
planetary ethics. It would, you know, once the science goes
into that, it would be a way of saying, you know,
we really do have cosmic consciousness, we really do have
this frequency communication between us and extraterrestrials.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Let's move to another question. Let's go next to Pilgrim here. Hi, Rebecca,
your thoughts about everybody having a soul?

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Absolutely, absolutely, categorically, and I think that with the rise
you know, from I would say the nineties, the rise
in spirituality from the nineties. I know Carolyn Mace wrote
a book back in the nineties about how spirituality and

(01:40:22):
religion were two different things. So I have a degree
in Master Divinity after degree in philosophical theology to kind
of philosophy and theology. But yeah, that's a constant in humans.
That's a wonderful gift of humans. I think that there's

(01:40:43):
also an empowerment of the soul that we have as people.
More and more people are doing hypnotherapy, they're doing past
life regression, they're getting in touch with maybe aspects of
their soul that they've never looked at before. I had
the privilege of going to the Southwest Institute of Healing

(01:41:04):
Arts here in Phoenix, and I took all the hypnotherapy
courses and all the past life regression courses, and you know,
it's a wonderful it's a wonderful journey to uncover your
past lives because it gives you a real way of
looking into that that that that soul, that the well
of your soul that do also within you, and you

(01:41:25):
can see parts of yourself and and how you're expressing
it today that comes directly from from your soul. I
think the soul is also energized by spirits. So I
think the soul is it's not just kind of this
this uh lifeless stamp that we have, but I think

(01:41:47):
a soul really moves in your life with you and
brings you information, and it's really a miraculous thing. I
do worry about. I do worry about the experiments that
were done during the Middle East War when they were

(01:42:07):
bringing the quote terrorists in and they were examining what's
an extreme terrorist, what's an extreme religious person? And I
think they were doing they've done a lot of mind
control experiments, brain experiments with people who have extreme religious

(01:42:28):
views in order to control them. So I think there's
kind of been this sort of bifurcation and control between
you know, wanting to control religion in order to capture
the soul. But I think even if a lot of
people say, like Rudolf Steiner, I don't know if you're
familiar with Rudolf Steiner, somebody said something about welder schools here.

(01:42:54):
So rudelf Steiner, you know, maintained harmonic forces were coming
in and they were going to capture humans. And it's
really really aerodite about the spiritual significance of that. But
and that they would be trapped in this eighth sphere
and then the eighth sphere, their soul would be captured
and it would keep reincarnating as a kind of a

(01:43:15):
hybrid human machine on Earth, and their soul would be
disempowered through that. I don't know, I don't know if
that's true. I don't know how much of that's true.
I love rudel Steiner, but he never had a footnote
in his life, so you never knew where anything came from.

(01:43:37):
So yeah, I think the soul is something that is permanent.
I think it's an energy. I think it moves with us,
and I think every day of our life, every decision
we make, we're adding to that soul when we're enliven
in it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
All right, let's move on to another question. Let's go
to Marie here. What is your opinion on psychic abilities.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
I think they're wonder I lump all psychic abilities into
something I called psychic intelligence, and that's using your psychic
abilities as an intelligence to actually make decisions in your life.
And I think it's a wonderful gift that we all
have and we need to learn to use it more.

(01:44:19):
And you know, I love something as simple as learning
how to bend a spoon or psychokinesis or esp I
work with a lot of people that are remote viewers.
I think all of those psychic psychic abilities are amazing
and we need more of them. We need more of
them now because of what just to track back to

(01:44:42):
what I was talking about earlier, there's so many quote
unseen forces in the world today that are not in
the best insic of humans. And if you don't have
psychic ability, then you can't really see what the unseen
forces are. So I think the stronger your psychic ability,
whichever ones you want to increase your ability in I

(01:45:04):
think you'll be better off to navigate through life.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
Just let them happen. Let them happen. Is that easy.
Let's go to t bone here. What part do you
think the Bible plays, in your opinion with consciousness?

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
Well, I think there wouldn't be any Bible if there
weren't witnesses. And a witness is subjective. So the Bible
is really nothing more than a text of subjective experiences
that people had. The Bible is not about experiments. The

(01:45:49):
Bible is not about registering a patent. The Bible's not
about a period viewed study. The Bible is not about
material science. Bible is a group of witnesses that witness
some kind of a spiritual awakening. And that's extra consciousness.

Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
All right, let's move on.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
And I also want to add that there's a lot
of people in our group that come in as spiritual experiencers,
like they've seen Jesus, or they've seen Buddha, or they've
seen Mary. There's a lot of people that come in
through that spiritual door.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Let's go to a cheer in Australia. Do you believe
the soul can be captured and transferred to other containers
as in body suits.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
I think you're talking. I think she's I think, and
she's talking about the walking phenomenon Earth. Yes where, Yeah,
I'm good. For instance, Sheila Seppi has done a lot
of work on walkings. Once again, I think that's a
prior soul agreement that they do that. Yeah, I think
that's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Right, moving on, I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
Would recommend Chiela's book on that being a really good
guest too.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
Let's go to Mike here.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
I can't be political, okay, yeah, we're not.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
Getting politics today, No politic political questions, thank you very much.
Let's go to Pauli here. What's the purpose of using
our human empathy for minted or little gray hybridization programs?

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Well, I think that kind of goes that once again,
you know you're you're you're going back to human sovereignty.
Do you want to be a hybrid or do you
not want to be a hybrid? That's that's up to you.
You can say yes or no to that. I personally
don't want to be a hybrid. I want to be
a human.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Being. A human's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Being a humans so cool, and we don't know very
much about it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Think that's because it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
Soul contract that you want to be in a hybridization program.
Then yeah, but you as a sovereign human need to
make that decision and have to be discerning and think
critically about that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Well. I think though, that people are too busy. We're
always on the go, go, going, when when we do
have time, we're not taking advantage of it in order
to relax ourselves to see what else is out there.
I mean, we if we have time to relax, most

(01:48:45):
of the time where we're doing something that would be
construed as lazy, maybe watching TV, maybe even reading a book,
or doing something that is unproductive and so trying to
Like even with myself, if I use myself as an example,
my mind is always going. I'll be sitting there every day,

(01:49:07):
like example, listening to a sports game on television, whether
it's football or baseball or hockey. But in the meantime,
I'm playing a game on my phone where I'm scrolling
through Facebook at the exact same time and I'm multitasking
to keep my brain going. We don't take enough time
to shut our brain off because we're almost afraid now

(01:49:30):
that if it slows down, the world might stop and
we could fall off the edge.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
That's fear, that's anxious, that's anxiety.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Oh yeah, it's huge, especially in David anxiety.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Yeah, I would say that. So me. So I woke
up this morning, I had an hour and a half
conversation with a friend and I had had a vivid
dream about something and she had read a book about
the exact topic, and she had just finished that book

(01:50:02):
last night. So we obviously had met on some astral
plane and it was a pretty heavy topic, I have
to say, but it was one of those topics that
everything just fell into place for me and it made something.
It made a lot of sense. And so we talked
for about an hour and a half and then I
said to her, I got to get I gotta go

(01:50:24):
get a shower. I'm I'm going to go to the gym.
I have to move this information through my body. And
every day, every day, I go to the gym. Every day,
I work out, every day, I move. I'm a real
like you. I'm a real cerebral kind of person. I
have lots of ideas, I do lots of research, and
every day I go to that gym and I get

(01:50:45):
on that mat and I do some kind of workout
for an hour and I have to turn and I
take a class. So I have to turn my head
off because if I let my brain go somewhere, I
won't know what the instructor is telling me to do.
So I have to keep it staying my body, but

(01:51:06):
at the same time, I'm moving that energy.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
We have three minutes to go here, and I want
to know what your final message is for the audience
tonight who wants to take on this mind blowing expansion
to try and allow themselves to see what the mind's
potential is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
I would say, Number one, be gentle with yourself. Be
gentle with yourself and trust yourself, and be patient. Be
patient with yourself. The more anxious you get, the more
impatient you get, the more harsh you get with yourself,
the more you're going to shut down your psychic abilities
and your and your contact. I would also say, find

(01:51:57):
find a group, Find a group, find a trust, a
commun unity where you can share openly and honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
What you know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
And allow yourself to sort of lean into that to
that community and let their energy also guide you. And
I would say, learn to set boundaries, learn to have discretion,
learn to have discernment and critical thinking because this is

(01:52:33):
a big topic and there's a lot of tricksters out there,
and you're the ultimate judge and jury and definitive answer
as to how and when you participate.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Where can people sign up for your courses?

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
I don't really have any courses. I just most things
come through my sub stack or Becca Hardcastle right, our
YouTube channels XO conscious Humans. I run a monthly coaching group,
and I'm kind of an informational type person. I push
out information and run these coaching groups. So exoconsciousness dot

(01:53:14):
com has all the information about my coaching groups. I
also do one on one counseling and coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
I think that's wonderful. You know what it is, it's
hard to believe this. Two hours just flew on by
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
It was so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
What can people fight on your website?

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
Oh, I find my coaching, They find the books I wrote,
find our YouTube, find our planetary constitution. I would ask
everybody to click on the planetary constitution and read that
planetary constitution. It is beautiful. It gives contact ees a
place in this base program, and.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
It's always good to be in that field of mind
where you have a place where everybody can go. It
doesn't matter whether you're rich, poor, you know, whatever you are,
you can go in there and explore it for yourself. Rebecca,
I want to say a big thank you for coming
on spaced Out Radio tonight. It's been an absolute pleasure
to have you back on. Hopefully we did enough that

(01:54:17):
you will want to come back on again.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
I'd love to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
That would be wonderful. I know our audience would love
it too. Coming up next on spaced Out Radio, Swamp
Dweller will kick things off with a creepy story. Then
the Wizard is back for what we call the UFO Report.
Josh Rutledge jumping on in to kick off his week

(01:54:40):
on the show. This is spaced Out Radio. You're listening
to spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott. Great

(01:55:07):
job tonight, Rebecca. Thank you very much. I hope you
had fun.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
I had blast. Thank you. It's really really fun.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
You're welcome. We'll do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
You have a great show. Give yourself a pat on
the back.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
Thank you. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
And you know, you know you're kind of like me.
We just we sort of throw these seeds out there
and we just never know where they're gonna land.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
True, well, hopefully mine lands in the lap of Sasquatch
one day soon. That'll be fun. Yeah, yeah, all right,
my friend, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
We'll do this again.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Wishes on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Thank you. You're you're a blessed heart. Thank you. Okay,
thank you, thank you, Rebecca Hardcastle. Right, everybody, I'll be right.

Speaker 6 (01:55:51):
Back US.

Speaker 7 (01:56:30):
USA, USA, USA.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
Let's bring in the Wizard. Say hello to him. Thank you, Walter,
appreciate that, Walter saying, Dave so ours on a roll
with great shows. We got another great week coming up
here as well. Listen to the Wizard, move that microphone around.

(02:00:35):
I didn't hear anything. We heard it all, man, you
heard it all. How you doing, buddy, I have fantastic man.

Speaker 6 (02:00:45):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
I am great man. I've had a good night, good
day over, probably because I actually slept nine and a
half hours. But you know, I'll do it. Yeah, that's
a rarity for me. Yeah, but you know, when you
need it, your body lets you know. Oh yeah, I

(02:01:07):
can guarantee that. I can guarantee that, my man. We're
coming back in sixteen seconds. Thank you to Maggie Creepy Pasta,
Alaska's greatest athlete and the Blue Jays fan t Bone
my man, thank you for the love tonight, and here
we go, everybody, Here we go with the third end,

(02:01:42):
final hour of spaced Out Radio, Swamp Dweller and the
Wizard coming up momentarily. My name is Dave Scott. Thank
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(02:02:02):
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Speaker 8 (02:02:44):
Hello and welcome to spaced Out Radios Swamp. I'm Swamp Dweller.
And tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends, and nightmares.
Welcome to the spaced out radio swamp.

Speaker 9 (02:03:02):
The night is late, and since I'm growing weary. The
past few weeks, I've heard howling in the late night hours.
I've watched as livestock goes missing or is found torn open.
There are rumors spreading and fear that is growing among townsfolk.
So I walk now hunting, searching for whatever is doing

(02:03:26):
the killing. Now, however, the matter is of more important sort.
You see, last night we found little Beth Sanders with
her face eaten off, her body torn open, and in
the middle of a street. The poor girl was just

(02:03:47):
taking out the trash when she was attacked. The parents
came running naturally, but they said in a few seconds
it took to hear her screams in the howling. They'd
opened the front door in time to see their little
girl screaming and being dragged into the darkness. She was
only eleven years old, and the fear in the eye

(02:04:09):
she had left said it all. My name is Job Anderson.
I'm a local hunter here in Michigan. I volunteered to
hunt this monster that killed Beth and many of the
livestock around these parts. In my search for this thing,

(02:04:29):
I found evidence that suggest that it lives in the woods.
I imagine Beth was only partially devoured because of all
the ruckus from the town when she went screaming into
the darkness. This is all speculation, but since this thing
started harassing the town, our livestock numbers have drastically dwindled.

(02:04:51):
I don't know if it attacked Beth because she happened
to be there, or it did so out of necessity
for food, but it was vicious. The local authorities are
keeping an eye out on things tonight as well, but
none of them have come out to join my hunt
just yet. Walking the path where Beth was dragged and

(02:05:11):
ultimately found, I could still see bits of blood in
the street that eventually lead off towards the woods. The
further I head in, however, though less evidence I find
of any sort of animal at all. I spend an
hour out here before I finally find some prints in
the snow. They look like a dog or a wolfe's foot,

(02:05:33):
but they appear to be headed back into town, and
they look fresh that's when I hear the sound of
gunfire and screaming in the distance. Quickly, I turn around
and head back to town. By the time I reached
the town, however, there's blood all over the street and
Sheri's vehicles abandoned in the roadways. Quickly I follow the

(02:05:54):
trail of blood into the darkened alleys of a small town.
It isn't long before I came up upon the body
of an already dead sheriff, their inside ripped open and
torn through. Who was Sheriff Williams, a man who'd been
with the Sheriff's office for twenty two years. His body
was ripped in half, a look of horror on his

(02:06:15):
dead face. Jesus, I thought to myself, what the heck
could have done? This? Gunfire rang out farther ahead, and
I rushed forward until I heard a growling, then a howling,
followed by a woman's screams. I arrived in time to
see blood which went up to a bank before going
up and headed back down into the main street to

(02:06:37):
find bodies everywhere. Gun Shells were just as numerous. There
was blood and organs all over the street. There were
women and men in sheriff's uniforms strown everywhere. I was
in shock and terror at this point as I gazed
at the side of one of the vehicles.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
Thank you, swam Dweller for another creepy story. If you
want more just like that, head on over to YouTube.
Type in swamp Dweller hit subscribe, ring that bell. You
have thousands of stories just like that to choose from.
It's time for the UFO Report. Here's the Wizard. Uf

(02:07:21):
you boss, Well, it's time for the Wizard. It's always

(02:07:45):
good to have Josh Rutledge here on the show.

Speaker 10 (02:07:47):
How you doing, Buddy, I'm doing fantastic, man, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:07:53):
I have one announcement and then we're going to get
into two stories that I need to talk to you
about before we get to the uf okay announcement number one,
as I mentioned just a couple of weeks ago, where
you are going to be hosting what we call Caribou
Con up here next September eighteenth to twentieth, and very
very happy to announce to people who want to come

(02:08:15):
because tickets will be going on sale very very soon
at caribou Con dot com. That's cr ibo concn dot com.
Grant Cameron is going to be our featured speaker of
the event. I talked to Grant Cameron. He'll be a

(02:08:35):
guest later this week. Grant Cameron will be our featured
keynote speaker. He's going to come up to the Caribou Region.
He's going to come a couple days early so I
could take him out to Flight twenty one and have
some fun out there looking for UFOs and aliens. And
we're going to have a great time with that. So
we got more announcements coming up on people who will

(02:08:57):
be speaking here very soon. But I was just so
excited to be able to say that Grant Cameron is
going to be joining us, and I can't wait to
get tickets on sales. So all of you in spaced
out radio Land can plan a trip up here to
the Caribou Region on September eighteenth through twentieth, twenty twenty six.

(02:09:18):
I want to see all of you up here. I do.

Speaker 10 (02:09:20):
Well, if you need a passport, start the process now.

Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
Yeah, right, if you need that passport or in hand.
If you're driving, you just need an enhanced driver's license
to get across. And if you're coming in from the States,
do not bring your pointy sticks with you leave them
at the border. They have storage there at the border
because you will not get across the border carrying pointy sticks.

(02:09:45):
Just a reminder to our American friends. But I want
to see a bunch of you up here, I really do.
And I'm trying to make this great with some guests
and adding Grant Cameron. Well that's a steal for us.
Absolutely still amazing. I mean, good, good, good grab uh.
I got to see him speak about a year and

(02:10:07):
a half ago. It's an amazing speaker, has a lot
of great information that he passes along. Yeah, it'll be
it'll it'll be great. I mean, if you know, he's
no uh, he's no Josh Rutlis, but he's no Wi Wizard.

Speaker 3 (02:10:28):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
You know what we're keeping it. We're keeping it close
to b C and around BC this year. So I
know Brent Thomas the we call him b Arthur because
he has such a golden voice. We'll be up here
for it. But he lives at the northern part of Idaho,
so he's just a quick trip across the border. Jake

(02:10:50):
Rice is probably going to come up from and Lee
Strauss from Washington State. Of course, you know Lee is
part of Spaced Out Radio and and Jake helps our
good buddy Merle with his paranormal videos. So it's just
something that we're gonna, you know, do first time around.

(02:11:10):
We got to see how it turns out, and then
you're number two. We're going to try and expand it
a little bit more. But we want to make it
an annual event just to show off the paranormal side
of our community, which is really cool. Yeah, it'll be fantastic.
Come sure, Yeah, yeah, So it's gonna it's gonna be great.
It's gonna be great. Now let's get to the these

(02:11:32):
two stories I want to talk about. Okay, neither are
UFO related. All right, I don't know why I'm so
excited about this man, but I really hope that over
the next few nights that people take the opportunity to
go outside look up towards the Big Dipper at night,

(02:11:56):
because Commet Lemon is going to be flying by. It's
going to be able to be seen by the naked eye,
so you'll be able to look up and see it.
This comet comes around every thirteen hundred and twenty five years.
This is the only time in our lifetimes that we're
going to see this comet. And I don't know what

(02:12:19):
geeks me out about this. I mean, I'm not a
big space exploration guy. I mean, sure, it'd be cool
to go to Mars, I like UFOs and everything like that,
But just something about seeing a comet flying on by
just sitting there in the sky, like it's like a
blip on a screen, that one moment it's there and
a few days later it's gone, you know, And I

(02:12:41):
don't know, I'm kind of geeked up about that, man,
how about you?

Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:12:47):
I also I think it's probably been gosh helbop might
be the last comment that I saw, and I was
in high school when that was the case.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:13:01):
The big thing though that I've seen about this Comet
lemon as it's also you know, Comet lemon or Siege
twenty twenty five A six is actually on my list
to talk about tonight, So good call?

Speaker 1 (02:13:13):
Okay? Is that going around on Facebook is.

Speaker 10 (02:13:17):
That it'll pass between the Earth and the Moon and
only zero point one five million kilometers from Earth.

Speaker 1 (02:13:25):
That's not true.

Speaker 10 (02:13:27):
It'll pass about between thirty to fifty six million miles
from Earth, still.

Speaker 1 (02:13:33):
Visible in the night sky.

Speaker 10 (02:13:35):
But going around on Facebook and a lot of other
social places is a little fake information with how close it's.

Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
Going to be. No, it's not a UFO. Let's just
let's just get that out of the way right now.
It is not a UFO. But you know, it's very
rare that we as human beings get to see something
celestial in the Take the time and you know what,

(02:14:03):
even if you go outside and go, huh there it
is cool and walk back in. Yeah, just take the
time to say, hey, man, did you see that comment?
You know, you know what's really you know, what's really
cool about comets? I think I don't know. I may
be the only one that thinks this is cool.

Speaker 10 (02:14:20):
But you know, commets always have a tail, and we always,
at least I did up until point, thought that the
tail was.

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
Always like going away from the direction in which the
comet was flying, because we think of things as directional.

Speaker 10 (02:14:36):
Right, if you're you've got smoke coming at your window
and you're driving down the road, the smoke is going
to be behind you, right, it's always directional. But by
the comet, that tail is produced by solar winds, causing
the gas and the ice in the comet to melt
and break up and dissipate, and the and the tail

(02:14:57):
always goes away from the direction of the son. So
the comet could be moving in one direction, but the
tail is always away from the sun blown by solar winds,
so it has nothing to do with the actual direction
that the comet is moving.

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
It's still really cool, though, it is really cool. I'm
not you know, well, I agree with you. I'm supporting
everything you say, but I mean, would you see that tail?

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:15:27):
I mean, I remember the first comment I saw was
Hally's comment, and then of course hail Bob, you know,
and then I think I've seen one more since then.
And then I missed out on the one a year
and a half ago, just I couldn't see it. I
was looking in the direction, just couldn't see it. In

(02:15:49):
a buddy of mine just north of me, he geeks
out on this stuff way bigger than I do. Bob
actually got some incredible photos from it, he really did,
and so I know he'll be ready for the next
few nights. But I mean, I don't know. There's just
something cool about thinking that the next time that comes around.

(02:16:13):
You know, our great great, great, great great great great
grandchildren are literally going to be dead. You know, it's
always it's always fun thinking about the death of future generations, Dave.
Something you know, like like little Dave Scott the twentieth
is be able to get a chance to see it,
you know.

Speaker 10 (02:16:33):
Now where you know, uh, what I like think about
is where are we going to be technologically when it
comes around, Like maybe we've advanced to the point where
we could actually intercept that comment when it comes back
around again.

Speaker 1 (02:16:48):
Or maybe just maybe the technology will be there to
bring us back, to bring us back from them, and
then we'll do like how many times? How many times incarnated?
How many how many times will I be reincarnated before
that happens?

Speaker 10 (02:17:07):
You know, Dave, You're you're asking a you know, reincarnation
is a fickle thing.

Speaker 9 (02:17:11):
Man.

Speaker 10 (02:17:13):
You can reincarnate into the past. It doesn't always have
to be the future.

Speaker 1 (02:17:16):
So mm hmm. But that's a whole nother discussion for
the time. Oh man, that that's way too deep, being sober,
having that conversation sober, way too deep. Oh man, I
got a I got a.

Speaker 10 (02:17:30):
Prime example though where that's the case. But yeah, we
can get into another time. It's probably too woo for
these folks.

Speaker 1 (02:17:37):
Oh no, no, you got six and a half minutes
to tell that story. My friend. If it's wo we're
getting there all right. So, as you know, I do
some stuff with like dowsing rods. You know, I ask yes, no.

Speaker 10 (02:17:51):
True false questions and I get responses. So my one
of my daughters, we got an energy on the line
that claimed to be her reincarnated in the future, but
she was communicating with her in the now. Okay, we

(02:18:16):
also got one that was her reincarnated a million years
in the past, but also communicating.

Speaker 1 (02:18:25):
With her in the now. So there you go.

Speaker 10 (02:18:31):
And I've I mean, that's my understanding of how time
works outside of our dimension is that it's all happening
simultaneously anyway. So there is no past lives or future lives.

Speaker 1 (02:18:45):
There's just lives.

Speaker 10 (02:18:47):
We put the time element in place, we consider it
past lives or future lives, but they're all happening all
the time simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (02:18:58):
Yeh, that's pretty incredible to think about, that, man, pretty incredible.
I want to get to the next story here because
it is kind of important with this one may take
us into the next half hour. Okay, this isn't UFO related.
But it is a big anniversary in the cryptid world.

(02:19:18):
As fifty eight years ago today, the Patterson Gimlin Sasquatch film,
which they've nicknamed Patty, has filmed at Bluff Creek, California,
northeast of San Francisco, and to this day it is
still the most controversial film of the genre. People today

(02:19:42):
like I put it up on my Facebook page, you know,
basically saying, hey, like, fifty eight years ago today this happened,
and it's amazing how many people today still are adamant
that is fake. Like one gentleman put total fake from
start to a and stage for sure, but made the
filmmakers famous. Well, I don't see Bob Gimlin, who's ninety

(02:20:06):
four years old living in a ten thousand square foot
mansion with you know, a Maserati Ferrari Rolls Royce over
this movie. He's lived a pretty poor life, you know, financially. Yeah,

(02:20:26):
there's a couple of things I want to say about this,
and I'll get your opinion too. Number One, we continue
to look at this video from the eyes of the present.
We do not look at this video from the eyes
of nineteen sixty seven. Okay, where the sexual Revolution hadn't

(02:20:51):
begun yet, the free love which started in sixty nine seventy. Okay,
this is a time when there were still pull and
by law enforcement officers going to beaches to measure bathing
suits of women to make sure they weren't more than
one inch above the knee. This was a very conservative

(02:21:13):
country in the United States and Canada where I am. Okay,
sex wasn't talked about, Nudity wasn't talked about. It was
you know, it was a bastion of the underworld. I'm
not saying that, you know, sexuality didn't exist or anything
like that, but it wasn't. People were more proper, they

(02:21:33):
were more religious, they were more conservative. It'll use that
word again. So for people to think that these two
hillbillies from northeastern California would sew together a monkey suit
and then put somebody in there and just for a joke,
say hey, let's sew a pair of boobs on this

(02:21:56):
for a joke, because there are breasts on it, and
if you look closely, and I'm not saying that to
be sick or demeaning or to make fun of the subject.
This is what convinces me that this creature is real
because they aren't going to take the time to say, well,
let's add a pair of watermelons on this outfit so

(02:22:20):
it looks female. They're not going to think like that.
They're going to build a monkey suit number one, it's
going to look absolutely hideous. With the technology of fur
back then, right, you know, I mean, go look up
nineteen sixties easter bunny shots. Absolutely, that's a great example.
They could barely put a costume together that didn't scare children.

Speaker 4 (02:22:44):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):
Okay, And you're going to say that this person is
going to walk in the middle of California wearing this
suit creating what it was it seventeen eighteen inch footprints
or whatever it was. Yeah, your thoughts, Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 10 (02:23:01):
Also, if given like to continue with your suit, you know,
construction piece, if it was created, I would have expected
it to show up in movies of the era soon after,
Like they would have sold it to Hollywood, the costume,

(02:23:23):
you know, and it would have showed up exactly as
it was in the next you know, horror feature film
double feature that was playing at the local drive in.
But to my knowledge, there's never been an exact recreation
of the suit down to the down to the details

(02:23:45):
that are present, or any a recreation of a suit
that were down to the details is what's present in
that video.

Speaker 1 (02:23:55):
I would agree with you. And the other thing that
I get about that is you can tell when somebody
is faking a video because nobody can mimic that walk. Yeah,
I have not seen a video yet of somebody trying
to create a sasquatch video. Who has been able to

(02:24:18):
one perfect that walk of that creature? And well, go ahead,
go ahead, I was gonna say that. There's also there's
like a an air of worry or concern hold that thought.
I apologize. I have so into the topic. I've forgot
to watch the clock. We're gonna continue with the Patterson

(02:24:39):
Gimmelin talk with Josh Rutlich the Wizard right after this.
This is spaced out radio, and your host's may stuff.

(02:25:07):
I'll say it now while we're off the air. Nobody's
sewing a pair of tits on this thing. Nobody? Yeah, okay,
I almost said tits on the radio. That was close,
and somehow I all of a sudden stopped it came
up with watermelons. Good call Dave, Yeah, good call coconuts here? Yeah,

(02:25:32):
who's putting the line on the coconuts there. Yeah right,
but no, I mean we'll continue this because I have
one more thing that I want to say, and it
does kind of tie into the UFO world. And I'm
sorry for eating up all your time on this.

Speaker 2 (02:25:44):
Sorry.

Speaker 10 (02:25:45):
There's not a lot going on the only thing that's
really I guess pressing is the company that told the
New York Posts that they were behind the New Jersey dronescare.

Speaker 1 (02:25:56):
Yeah, we'll get to that when we get to it.
That's not surprising, mm hmm. So I went out to

(02:26:24):
Shane's this past weekend. How was the beard Beard's doing?

Speaker 10 (02:26:28):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:26:28):
Nice?

Speaker 10 (02:26:30):
How Shane had like he was really good, Like nine
people out of his place, you know, which is usually
usually have like three or four, some new folks, some
new energy was good.

Speaker 1 (02:26:43):
I saw some orbs off in the distance without a body. Uh,
And then I did uh that.

Speaker 10 (02:26:52):
Then I did a Dallasian rod session and we we
got one of the guys that was there. His his
great uncle was the radio operator on Project High Jump.
Oh wow, So we actually ended up getting his great
uncle who was deceased on the on the line with

(02:27:12):
the with the dowsing Rods. Got a lot of great,
great interaction and feedback and information. It was a fantastic session.
And for a lot of like five of the folks
that were there, they'd never been a part of anything
like that before, so you know, it was a good,
good experience for them too.

Speaker 1 (02:27:29):
Oh wow, that's awesome. That's awesome. Man, hold on now,
I gotta close the window. It's getting too cold in here.
All right, Hey, guys, are we on the verge of
global extraterrestrial contact?

Speaker 10 (02:27:49):
I mean, I think we already are extra Do you
mean open? You know, do you mean to be open
extra creastural contact because we've been global extra treastural content
for a long time. You know what's really interesting about that, though,
is that, like the US seems to be the only
country in the world, or maybe even you know, Canada

(02:28:13):
or maybe the UK too, but the only countries in
the world that, uh talk about it openly. Yeah, Like
you don't ever really hear anybody from Japan or you know,
you know, Korea, Vietnam, India, like none of the other
countries anywhere else in the world talk about extraterrestrial contact.

Speaker 1 (02:28:37):
I wonder why that is. I don't know.

Speaker 10 (02:28:43):
Maybe it's because it's so steeped in their culture that
they just accept it as the norm.

Speaker 1 (02:28:49):
Could be could be about ninety seconds. Mhm, you're gonna

(02:29:16):
grow a beard for Vegas. Now this is all you get, man, Sorry,
keep that lip blade glowing. Man, I'm waiting to see
if it's gonna fill in in the middle. If it
has yet, it's been going for a month so far.
This is all I got. I grow facial hair really
really slow. So well, then by the time we uh.

Speaker 10 (02:29:38):
Vegas may who knows, I also could get tired of
it and cut it all off. So we'll see, because
it does bother me from time to time.

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My name is Dave Scott. We have the Wizard Josh
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is here. The Patterson Gimlin film fifty eight years ago today.

(02:31:38):
It was filmed by these two gentlemen in Bluff Creek, California.
Nicknaming the Sasquatch Patty because it is a female that
is walking through. One thing that I wanted to say,
and it kind of ties to the UFO world, Josh,
and I think it's important to get into this. Okay,
all right, For more than fifty years now, Roger Patterson,

(02:32:05):
God bless his Soul he died in the eighties, and
Bob Gimlin, who is now ninety four. They received death threats,
Their family received death threats, their children receive death threats.
Other family members and friends received death threats over a

(02:32:26):
Bigfoot video, claiming that they found it and this is
what it looked like. They did what they were supposed
to do. They filmed it. People have claimed that it's
a hoax and that they made it all up, and
at one point, I think it was Gimlin who said, fine,
you think it's a hoax, it's a hoax, and people

(02:32:48):
were like, aha, caught, yeah, yeah, right. But when you
have so many threats on your life for a Bigfoot video,
and we see that in the UFO world, that there
are these psychopaths that are out there who think that
because you film a UFO or you're talking about a UFO,

(02:33:09):
or you're indulged in the conversation the topic may bee
helping work towards disclosure, whatever it may be, that somebody
is going to call you and message you and give
you death threats, or in today's day and age, they
go a little bit further where they're willing to make
up stories about you know, sexual harassment or workplace violence

(02:33:35):
or home violence or whatever it may be. These monsters
are out there, and I feel for them because they
made a video of a bigfoot. They released it to
the world because they were excited. Look what we caught.
We finally caught one on camera, and here were all
these people out there, you know, literally and not everybody.

(02:33:59):
We don't want to make it out like it's mountains.
It's little molehills of these of these psychopaths who think
that if you keep talking about this, I'm going to
un alive view. Well, let's go back to proper English.
I don't care about the algorithms. People are going to
call you up and say I'm going to kill you

(02:34:19):
over a bigfoot video or over a UFO video. Imagine that.

Speaker 2 (02:34:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:34:26):
Yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 10 (02:34:32):
I mean, I think with you know, a lot of
things that these people have already have always existed in
my opinion, like that. Yes, the people who would go
to that extreme or something that, at the end of
the day is probably more of an issue with It
causes them to question their belief system and they can't

(02:34:57):
you know, they probably well, you know, I'm gonna I'm
gonna speculate and say they were probably raised in a
very religious culture, and so any any question of any
any existence beyond the strict you know, the way that
you know, their religious figures laid it out for them

(02:35:18):
causes them to need to question their belief system and
they can't do that, so instead they attack those that
are proposing evidence, supposing evidence that you know, causes that
for them. But I would also say that the rise
of the you know, social media, and you know the

(02:35:39):
fact that it's now so easy for these people who
you know, fifty or sixty years ago would have just
been you know, in their apartments with you know, newspaper
all over the windows and you would never see them.
They were shut ins or whatever. They they might even

(02:35:59):
cut out random letters from newspapers and and send those
letters off to people. Like the rise of social media
has given them an easier voice to be heard, as
well as the you know, the efforts that a lot
of It doesn't take a lot anymore to find out

(02:36:19):
where people live, like used to be, you had to
know something about them, maybe the city that they live in.

Speaker 1 (02:36:27):
Then you could maybe go to like go to that
city and go to.

Speaker 10 (02:36:30):
A phone booth and get a phone book and try
to look up where they're located in that city. It
was a lot harder to find where people live. Now
it's a lot easier. So, you know, we've still got
the same mixture of just you know, unhinged people who
are now able to get access to information about their

(02:36:50):
you know, victims basically, whether it be you know, actually
following through on their actions or just you know, mentally
assaulting the people with all of theirs, you know, death
threats and things like you.

Speaker 1 (02:37:03):
Say, yeah, I would agree with you on that. You know,
we're talking about an extreme few, okay, Yeah, And even
even today on X and over the last few days,
whether or not you like Louelizondo, there has been a
lot of threats against him recently on X Now. For

(02:37:24):
people who don't know who Louelasondo is, he's a gentleman
who claims he ran a UFO program at the Pentagon
called a TIP before leaving that position in twenty seventeen
to come out in support of the UFO disclosure. And
to this day, you know, there's controversy around him, and

(02:37:44):
you know, he's made some mistakes and he's made some
very questionable calls on things. But that's not for the argument,
but the fact that there are people out there who
think that it is correct to threaten his life over
his statements. I mean, this is a guy when he
goes up on a podium, now he has to have
a bulletproof vest on underneath his clothing because you never

(02:38:08):
know where these psychopaths are hiding. Yeah, I mean, it's
it's definitely a scary.

Speaker 10 (02:38:17):
It's just a generally scary world that we kind of
live in right now, you know, because of all the
things that I mentioned previously, but also just I think
that because also news media is so readily available, we
hear about things that maybe before we wouldn't have. You know,

(02:38:38):
if there was a shooting, you know, in the state
over from you or the you know district over from you,
you may not have heard about it unless it's somehow
found its way into your local newspaper. But now media's
you know, news is bombarding us all the time, so
we hear all the negative things. And because negative things

(02:38:59):
also means viewership and it sells advertising, then that's what
a lot of media pushes is more of the negative
stuff and not so much of the you know, the
you know bunny the bunny races that happened this past weekend,
and the cute puppy races and all these things that
you know, we also used to get in our local newspapers,
so we're saturated with negative reports and so it makes

(02:39:24):
it feel like there are more more of these things
happening than ever did before, when in all actuality, it's
probably close to the same that it was twenty or
thirty or forty or fifty years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:39:38):
We're just hearing about it more. Yeah, I would agree
with you on that, and I think that it is
something that is still a little traumatic for people. And
you know, I think as we get more into an
AI world, more and more people are going to be
holding on to their own personal videos because they see
things Like I've often said on this show that if

(02:40:00):
I had the smoking gun video to a Bigfoot or
a dog man or a UFO landing with aliens coming out,
I really don't know if I would release it to
the public because I've learned from what Roger Patterson and
Bob Gimlin have gone through. I've watched what's happened close
up to what's happened to UFO. People who've come out

(02:40:22):
to speak about this subject and the idiotic threats that
go against them. I don't mean to keep beating a
dead horse on this topic, but it's no matter or
no wonder why so many of these videos are probably
out there. They probably exist, but people don't want to

(02:40:42):
to release them because of fear for their own safety.
And it's not that government officials are all of a
sudden going to come from every behind, every blade of
grass and shrub in your yard, come confiscate the video.
That's not going to happen. What is going to happen
is the psychopaths online who are going to sit there

(02:41:03):
and and start coming at you, doxing you, doxing your
wife or your husband, or your children where they go
to school, and making threats and private dms to you.
That's what's happening.

Speaker 10 (02:41:17):
Well, and it's it's to your point. It's not the
men in black eye fear, it's the Joe's in blue
because those are the folks you really got to worry about.
The other thing I'll say, you know, kind of one
last thing on this topic is you could always you
know and like and I always thought that if I
came across just some amazing evidence, and I was worried about,

(02:41:40):
you know, a fallout. I would publish an anonymously or
use a you know, use a fake name, because the
video or the pictures or the whatever it needs to
get out, people need to see it. If you if
you feel at the end of the day that the
only way you can publish it is if your name

(02:42:00):
was attached to it, that's ego talking, and you need
to figure out which is better for people to see
it or for you to be known as the person
who provided it.

Speaker 1 (02:42:11):
I would agree with you. All right, let's get to
the drones, because we want to make sure Hum and
Carl in our chat room gets to hear about the drones.
What do you got for us on the latest because
it was almost a year ago at this time, around
this time, a year ago when all of a sudden
the drones started appearing over New Jersey.

Speaker 10 (02:42:30):
Yep, and supposedly so in a recent article on the
New York Post, this was Saturday's article.

Speaker 1 (02:42:39):
They were doing.

Speaker 10 (02:42:41):
A filming a test flight for a small Vetoll aircraft,
which is vetole is, you know, has propeller blades. It's
like an air aircraft or it's got propeller blades. So
this is like a single seater small vetol aircraft. And

(02:43:02):
supposedly this company, this private contractor claims in the interview
that they were the cause of the new Jersey drone.

Speaker 1 (02:43:12):
Scare a year ago.

Speaker 10 (02:43:18):
I you know, I'm I'm mixed on it because to me,
it's a lot like the the crop circle guys that
came out in the nineties, Like if these things really
are UFOs or you know, even let's go as far
as to say not UFOs, let's go as far as

(02:43:39):
to say alien navigated or eight navigated craft.

Speaker 1 (02:43:43):
It's really easy to step in and claim credit.

Speaker 10 (02:43:45):
For something where the person or the entities that really
created it are not going to come forward and disprove you. Right,
So in the nineties, when those two guys in the
UK was like, oh yeah, we go out with boards
and streams and stuff, we make all these crop circles.
The only problem is is that these genuine crop circles
don't look anything like what they created on the news

(02:44:09):
when they made that claim. It's impossible to disprove them.
And so in this case, you know, if it was
really you know, something other than this company, that other
whatever that other thing was, would have to come forward
to disprove or discredit this company, and I don't see
that happening. But what I do think should happen is
if it was truly them, somebody needs to press charges

(02:44:33):
because it was a big to do, Like we're flying
over all kinds of military bases and and you know,
shutting down airports, and people were losing their mind over
everything that was going on out there. Somebody needs to
press charges against this contractor if it's truly that they
were responsible.

Speaker 1 (02:44:53):
Then it needs to happen. I never thought it was Aliens.
I never thought it was alien I know, I remember
I was talking about it. Yeah, when it happened, I
had two different sources within who were telling me that
it was some sort of you know, search mission by

(02:45:18):
the US military because what I had heard and I'm
not saying this is all of them, Okay, I'm not
saying this is all of them at all, but what
I had heard was that leading especially after the election
and leading up to the election last year, that there
was cause for concern that there may have been parts

(02:45:42):
of a dirty bomb, a dirty nuclear bomb moved into
the area, and they needed the drones up there to
scan for potential nuclear waste. They couldn't do it during
the sun the daytime because the sun's radiation would block
the radio detectors on the drones. Now does that account

(02:46:05):
for all of them, I'm not saying it does. I'm
really not. There were some weird one seen, but I
think in the way social media blows things up, we
did see a lot of helicopters. We did see a
lot of airplanes and even jet planes coming in and
out of the airport around Newark in all those areas,

(02:46:26):
we saw that happening. But does it make up for
all of them. I don't think so. But I do
believe that the majority of them were human made.

Speaker 4 (02:46:37):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:46:38):
And the other piece is for me is that.

Speaker 10 (02:46:45):
I think that a lot of them were also misidentification.
They were people who normally don't look up, who now
were looking up because it was in the news and
stuff with the area, and they were seeing things in
the night sky that they're not used to see and
because they don't ever look up. I would say, you know,
my guess was be probably you know, sixty or seventy

(02:47:07):
percent of what was reported was probably misidentification, maybe even higher,
maybe even eighty or ninety percent. But the other ten
percent fifteen percent, those are the ones that I think
are important to consider. And you know, the ones that
originated from over the ocean, flew into land, and then
when it was back to the ocean.

Speaker 2 (02:47:29):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:47:31):
Plus, most battery life of drones is not something that
can stay aloft for very long. I mean this, this
small Vitol aircraft has a maximum flight time of about
forty minutes. That's assuming it's flying to wherever it's going
and then returning, you know, at some point. So some
of the things I think we're observed in the sky
for a long period of time.

Speaker 1 (02:47:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (02:47:53):
I just to me, it's still a mystery. And the
fact that the FBI I got involved and like every
every possible uh you know, law enforcement agency got involved
and basically said, we don't know what this is, that
to me says that somebody would have somebody would have thought, Hey,

(02:48:17):
this private contractor is testing out this vitle thing. Let's
find out if they're the ones behind. Like, it's not
like they can test it out in secrecy and silence.
They're a private contractor. They have to get clearances to
do all that stuff. I mean, I'm presently on a
private contract with the government, and we have to get
clearances to do.

Speaker 1 (02:48:37):
The little things that we're doing.

Speaker 10 (02:48:38):
And they're little things, not anything like flying up private
You're a small Vitol aircraft run in the sky well.

Speaker 1 (02:48:46):
And but that's the reason why Josh I also thought
that maybe these were some sort of military craft. Okay,
that they they're developing drones. Look, drone technology is being
used everywhere wartime situations now and it makes me wonder,
you know, with about three minutes to go here, and

(02:49:07):
it's for a completely different topic for another night, but
it makes me wonder how quickly you know, under the
rules of engagement that they the countries are supposed to
follow before drones get banned from more action, you know,
because they are becoming so devastating. You know, I saw
a video today that popped up on my reel. It

(02:49:28):
was disgusting. It was absolutely disgusting of what was going on.
And if a world war ever broke out again, let's
hope it doesn't. But I mean, the amount of civilians
that could be targeted by these now is going to
be horrendous, way worse than what we've seen in the past.

(02:49:49):
But I do believe that there is technology with a
lot of these drones where they can stay up for
more than an hour at a time, now, you know.
I mean you look at some of these, like like
the Reaper drones, they can go they can go for
hours upon hours, I think twelve hours or something along

(02:50:11):
of those life, right, But that's different.

Speaker 10 (02:50:13):
They're like they're guess they're you know, jet fuel powered,
but we don't know the technology of these. Well that's true,
you know, But I mean, is it that company? They
may have had a small portion of it with it, right,
but I believe it was more than one company, that's
for sure. But I still think that even if even

(02:50:33):
if they were any part of it, if they didn't
come clean and tell somebody last year, they should, somebody
should bring charges against them. You can't yell fire in
a crowded theater, it's against the law, and that they
basically you know the equivalency of that in the night
sky and then didn't tell anybody about it and let

(02:50:56):
it drag on for months. Who knows how many public
resources were spent trying to figure this out or track
it down if they might have been you know, a
big portion of it all along.

Speaker 3 (02:51:11):
I think somebody for press charges.

Speaker 10 (02:51:14):
And let them let them tell you know, let here's
the thing right now, they're taking credit for something that
nobody can come in and say no, it wasn't you
rush charges and you'll find out really quick if they
are actually taking credit for something that was them.

Speaker 1 (02:51:29):
That is a good point. Josh Rutledge, It is always
a pleasure to have you on spaced Out Radio twice
a week for the UFO Report. I know we're you know,
in a lull for UFO News, but it will definitely
come back. It's nice to talk a little bigfoot with
you because we don't normally have that conversation. Uh, real

(02:51:49):
quick before we go.

Speaker 10 (02:51:51):
If you are in the US, you can go to
UAPDA dot org. That's for the uap Disclosure Act u
ap DA dot org and there's a petition on there
and if you're in the US, you can sign the
petition and they'll get it in front of Congress to
try to get that you know, that thing passed perfect.

Speaker 1 (02:52:10):
So yeah, appreciate you the wizard. We love it when
you're here. As we say good night to Josh Rutledge
and hello to mister Ron Bumblefoot thal rocking in the
background with Little brother is watching. Bumblefoot is the official
music of spaced Out Radio, rocking us in and out
of every single show. Get your horns up for the
guitar got themself special. Thanks to everybody listening in, at work,

(02:52:35):
at home, in your cars, wherever you may be. Thank
you to everyone in our chat rooms, tonight, YouTube, Twitch, Elga, Facebook, spreaker,
LinkedIn the Space Travelers Club, and on x and hashtag
spaced Out Radio. Remember this show is copyright by spaced

(02:53:00):
Out Radio a Bigfoot Broadcasting Limited. Thank you so much
for choosing to share your evening with us, because together,
my friends watching, we own the night. Mister Bumblefoot, we
need a favor, We need you to take us all. Yes,

(02:53:28):
the WU train has docted for the night, but suit
my friends, we shall ride again. Your seats are always available,
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