Sept. 18/25 - The Real Fire In The Sky with Steve Pierce - Spaced Out Radio

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We're gonna have an amazing, suspenseful show with you tonight.
Stephen Pierce is here. We are going to talk about

(02:42):
the true story of what happened in Snowflake, Arizona and
Fire in the Sky. Then in our number three we're
going to go straight to Josh Rutledge with the UFO Report.
Then it's gonna be Dave one O one Night and
we'll get to the weird news of the week. So
let's get right to it. Steve Pierce was one of

(03:04):
the six Forestry crew members working with Mike Rogers at
the APACHE Sitegreaves National Forest, Arizona, on November fifth, nineteen
seventy five, when logger Travis Walton allegedly vanished after an
encounter with a glowing, unidentified object. Pierce was present during
the key events, seeing the overhead light, witnessing Travis's walk

(03:27):
toward it, and later watching as Walton was struck by
a beam of light and falls to the forest floor.
He has consistently maintained his eyewitness account over the years. However,
in subsequent years, Steve has expressed doubts about parts of
the official narrative, and has also resisted efforts to recant

(03:47):
or admit the incident was a hoax. For instance, in
nineteen seventy eight, it was reported that he had claimed
certain behaviors such as Walton's staying in the truck claiming illness,
and Rogers working late past that he felt were unusual
on that day of the incident, and so much more so.
I'm gonna stop with the bio right now, because I

(04:08):
could probably go on another minute or two, but I
think it's important to bring him right on and learn
it from the man himself. Steve Pierce welcome to spaced
Out Radio for the first time. It is an honor
and an extreme privilege to have you here with us tonight.
How are you pretty good?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Did you ever think that your popular life would ever
be defined by a UFO incident?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah? No, can hear me?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yes? Got you loud and clear. When you look at
that and you go back and kind of, you know,
relive it. This is something that you probably relive much
more than what you expected you would in your life.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I still have nightmares. Yeah, it can freak you out
sometimes what scares you? Nothing anymore, or don't.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Think I was more scared the day of the polygraph
test and the day I saw Travis getting zapp Because
the day of the polygraph test is more reality and
it all set in, and.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
That day was the most scariest.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Now, from what I have learned about you, you're not
a guy who seeks publicity. In fact, you shy away
from it. You're a guy who's a very humble man
but has continuously been thrust into the spotlight because of
this story. How has life been for you since nineteen
seventy five?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
It was pretty good until I got back into it. Uh,
I got out of it. Uh in the eighties. Well,
actually it was more like the seventies into the seventies,
and I didn't see Travelers for another thirty something years
after that. But uh, it's caused a divorce.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's been hard.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, I don't know. I I used to have really
bad nightmares and but I'm good.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Do you ever still have when you talk about those nightmares?
Do you still relive it?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Oh? Yeah? Did you? Did you see that video I
sent you? Maybe being hypnotized or whatever you want to call.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
It, Yes, but explain that to our audience. What what
you go through? Because our radio audience can't see the video.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
What do I go through? Yeah, it's hard to explain,
but I've I've had some nightmares. I mean I've gone

(07:37):
through what It doesn't bother me as much as it
did before. You know, I don't have nightmares no more
over this. But when it first happened, I did, and
then when I first got back into it, I did,
But now I don't. I don't it. It doesn't bother me.

(08:00):
It is what it is, and it was what it was.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Something that you told me before the show, which is
really cool, is that you used to drive truck up
to Alaska and I did that one time. Well, the
real cool part about it is you drove by my house,
but you know, I probably wasn't living here back then.
But either way, to know that you've kind of we've
kind of beat the same highways, I think that's that's

(08:27):
kind of cool. How was your life would you kind
of shove this to the side and said, you look, yes,
that's a part of me. How did it really take
your life? How did you try and rebuild what you
wanted to do and how you wanted to live?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, once I got away from it, when I started
driving long haul, I was using my first name and
never used my middle name again. I didn't nobody called
me by Steve. And so when I was on the road,
none of the people that I knew and drove tuck with,

(09:06):
I worked with did not know nothing about fire and Sky.
I never talked about it.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
How do you hold something like that in.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Because you don't know how people are going to react.
Some people take it, you know, but I've seen people
like me and Travis was doing a show in New
Mexico one time and this lady got up and started
calling us all liars, and she was drunk and finally

(09:38):
they had to throw her out. But you never know
how somebody is going to react, and they say, well,
you've got people. Nowadays everybody believes that's not true. You
go to the store and tell somebody your story, they
just look like, I look at you like you're nuts.
So I don't tell everybody that I see the story

(09:58):
because you just don't know how they're going to react.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So in other words, it's a protective advantage to you
to just not talk about it.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, with people that don't know, because you just don't
know how. You know, I've been called you know before
I went out before, but right after this happened, okay, uh,
or when it happened. The night it happened, my mom

(10:32):
didn't even believe us. You know, they thought we were lying.
So back then they thought we were lying. Nowadays that
they think I'm lying because I don't agree with Travis,
because I don't believe Travis was taken up by aliens.
I think just had something to do with the government.

(10:52):
And you know, Alan Dallas believes the same thing. You know,
but Travis was zapped. Okay, we we pulled, we we
I've skipped the whole day and just go to the
do the main thing. When we took off, we saw

(11:15):
that bright light over to the right of us, and
we couldn't tell what it was. In the movie it
says it looked like a fire. That's not true. It
was white, and when we got closer to it, it
was just turbot in the air. It wasn't moving. And uh,
Travis gets out and there's so many you know. Somebody

(11:37):
say he jumps out and runs up there. I don't
remember that part, but to me, everything turned into slow motion,
you know. And then when when when Travis got out,
he did not well up exactly up to it. He
went into an angle because if he would have went
straight up to it, the beam would have knocked him

(11:59):
into the pit out. And so it's hovering there and
he gets out, walks in the side and when he
gets about halfway, he kind of like bends down and
when he raises back up, the craft started rocking back

(12:22):
and forth, and this blue screen light came out and
it zapped him in the chest. And then through the
years it said ten feet fifteen out. He when it
hit him, he did go back, but it did ain't
like the movie that, you know. But he did hit
the ground. And when he hit the ground, I said,

(12:44):
they got him. And that's when Mike started to pick
up back up and took off. And I believe Kenny
Peterson was trying to get out at the same time
as Mike took off. Is when, uh, when this happened?
Alan Dallas, Okay, there's floor in the back, Okay next

(13:08):
to Alan Dallas was here, I was here, John Gilette
was here, and Dwayne was here. Okay, there's there's on
the pick up. There was plywood all the way around
the bed, so you couldn't see out the back window. Okay,
when when this When we saw it, Alan Dallas hit

(13:30):
the floorboard and so I scooted over and I had
a perfect view. And and then when it was apped him,
you could actually feel the energy of the of the
you know, when he was apped by the by the UFO,

(13:50):
you could feel it. And then Mike when he took off,
we went down. I don't know how far, but we
stopped and we all get out of the out of
the truck, and uh, nobody wanted to go back. At first.

(14:11):
We was all freaking out. You know, I wasn't saying
Harvey anything, and in the book is the book says
I was crying. That's not true. I want I want
to take a polygraph test. Me and Mike. Y'all can
set this polygraph up any way you want, you know.
They said, Well, they don't want to do it. They
want to know the questions ahead of time. You know. Fine,

(14:31):
you want to know the questions ahead of time. Fine,
you know. But but Mike Rogers is the only one
that freaked out really bad. He hits the ground and
he starts, I mean, he just totally lost it. He
crying and everything else. And then finally Kenny Peterson is
the one and John glad Or the two one that

(14:52):
decided to we should go back and get him. So
when we went back before we want I'll get back
in the truck to pick up Uh. We saw take off,
We saw it leave, and that's I guess you could say.
We got our courage back and went back and looked

(15:13):
for him. And we went back and looked for him.
We couldn't find him. And so we had one flashlight
and and so we couldn't find and we and then
we went uh into town and there was a place

(15:34):
that had a phone booth, and it's right they put
they put a store next to that. And I was
there a couple of weeks ago. But anyway, we went
to this and so in the movie it shows that
Mike called. That's not true. Uh uh, so you made

(16:03):
the phone call, Knny Peterson made the phone call. I'm
trying to be nice. You told me I couldn't cuss,
so I'm trying to.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's hard not to cuss. Well, anyway, Kitty Peterson was
one that made the phone call. Yeah, you made the
phone call again. Uh. And the cops told us to
go farther into Hebre to the gas station because the
main highway goes right through town. And so we were

(16:37):
sitting at the gas station and the gas station is
not there no more. They said it burnt down, but
it's completely gone now. When I was there a couple
of weeks ago, I took my girlfriend up there and
kind of freaked throughout. So we're sitting there waiting. Then
I think it was a city cop that showed up first,

(17:00):
and then uh, another deputy sheriff showed up, and then
I think Glesbie was the last one to show up.
And then he shows up and he thinks we're drinking
and partying and you know, so he's looking around for
beer cans, and so he decides, well, we got to

(17:24):
go back and look for him. He wanted he wanted
three to go back and the other three could go home.
And so Mike had to go back. He was the
crew boss. He had no choice. And uh uh, Kenny
Peterson went back, and then Alan Dallas went back. And

(17:45):
years later in the eighties, I saw Alan Dallas. We did.
We were in the county jail together and he was
telling me. The reason he went back is not to
look for traps. I mean, he went back to Travis,
but that ain't the reason he went. He went back
to face his fears because what he did before, because

(18:06):
he tried to get the floorboard, you know, And so
that's the reason Travis went. I mean, Alan Dallas went back,
and Alan Dallas he passed away. He was he was
going to go get firewood, and he was at a
stop sign and I'm not to stop buying, but a

(18:27):
red light and the red light changed and he never moved,
and so finally people went up there and they called
an ambulance and time they got there, he was leaning
over the steering wheel. He was already passed away. And
I don't know how the other one's passed away. I'm
I know John died of a heart attack. I think,

(18:51):
I'm not sure. But and then Dwayne Smith. I'd never
seen Dwayne Smith after this, so I don't know how
he passed away. And I think there's just four of
us left. It might be three. I don't know if
Kenny Peterson is alive or not, because I haven't talked
to him but once in fifty years, so I don't

(19:15):
know where he's at.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
To think about it that this is this year on November,
I believe it's November fifth, it'll be fifty years since
since this event. I mean, looking back on half a
century since this happened, I mean, that's just amazing. I mean,
how you know you guys went from a good working

(19:41):
crew getting the job done. You guys worked hard. I
live in a town full of laggers, so I know,
you know what the lot we were longer.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Just to get this straight, I've never logged a tree
in my life, and I picked up a lot of branches.
We were there for fire. You know, we chopped everything
smaller than five inches. They cut everything down five inches
and smaller. We thinned the forest out, you know, and
then my job was to stack the branches and we

(20:11):
had to stack it a certain way so the Forest
Department would come and burn to burn it, we weren't loggers.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Still hard work up of the mountains, though.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Man, yeah, it was hard work. I mean, oh not really.
It's like cleaning your art actually, but it was a
long they were long days. Foreign concrete is a lot
harder than what we were doing.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
The fact that it's fifty years though, I mean, looking back,
half the crew has now left this planet, I mean,
it really divided you guys this story. And what happened
was that because of the trauma of it or just
you guys just needed to do your own own thing.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I never got along with Travis before, you know, So
what was the question again.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well, it's been fifty years and the crew kind of
went its own way. Everybody kind of did their own thing,
and then, you know, there was a little bit of
a rejuvenation in nineteen ninety four when the movie Fire
in the Sky came out. But I mean everybody just
kind of went there on path, right.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I didn't when the movie came out. I didn't know it.
Nobody asked me nothing. Nobody has ever asked Travis has
never asked me my side of the story, not once,
that once. He's always believed what Mike said. And Mike
is live so much in that book the first five days,
you know, to make his own money. There's a book

(22:03):
before Travis. Some guy wrote a book. Can't name it
the name, but anyway, I'm mentioned in that book. And
nobody's ever asked me anything, never about anything, and my
name is mentioned in all these books.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Well, the good news about it is we're asking you tonight.
This is your story, this is your encounters, this is
about you.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
What Travis told me. Travis said, it's his story, not mine.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, I think it's more all your stories. I mean,
look how it affected your life. I didn't you know.
I'm sure there were times in your life where it
got hard because of having to relive this story, this event.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
It got really hard in the seventies and the eighties
because my family they thought I was nuts and they
still think I'm nuts.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
But well, what what kind of guy were you? We
got about a minute ago before we go to break
what kind of guy were you? Prior to this instant,
describe yourself when I was a kid, Yeah, before this event,
what kind of guy were you?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I was kind of messed up. I stayed. I stayed
on drugs because my dad died and I was you know,
but what kind of guy am I? I try to

(23:39):
be fair and people say you hate Travis. I don't
hate Travis. I don't hate nobody. Hate. Hate is a
is a hard word. Why would you want to hate somebody?
To have that on your in your soul?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
That is very true. That is very true. I mean
you you battled your own demons before with the with
the drug habit, and then you know afterwards, you had your.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Back to the first show. I've never been on drug though.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Well, I'm glad. I'm glad you're here, Steve. I'm going
to get you to hold on right there. We're gonna
go to break here at the bottom of the hour.
Steve Pierce, he was in the truck the night Travis
Walton was taken. We're going to get his side of
the story next on spaced out Radio. Wow, I don't

(24:51):
know about you, guys. For that first half hour, you
can feel the feel his emotion. Wow, that that's a
good start, Steve, Thank you. Hold on, I gotta press
the mute button. There we go. Good start. You're feeling, okay,

(25:14):
a little nervous. That's all right. I'm nervous too. You're
a big star to me. But we both got nice
beards and that's all that matters. M hmm, Emperor Penguin,
How you doing, buddy? I'm loving this. I am loving

(25:45):
this retro? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
That?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Was fun? We got about three and a half minutes,
my friend. Okay, yeah, three and a half minutes. Tartar Sauce,
how are you? Yes? I do put my face on underpants.
You could get your your Dave Scott Undy's at our

(26:35):
website spaced out radio dot com. It's true.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
It cracked me up when I solved your underwear.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Hey, I own a pair. They're comfy. They are comfy.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
There's no way I'd wear underwear with a guy's picture
on it.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
But beard looks good on it. Though it's about the
same length.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Now it have to be my girlfriend's based on it.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's good times, man, good times. Thank you Trucker Andrew
Desolate one. How you doing? I will mark that for

(27:34):
hour two?

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Buddy, stores, will you play commercials.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
The radio stations play commercials at this time.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeh.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know, I've done a lot of radio shows and
I still get really nervous.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
My late wife, My late wife was born in Canada.
Oh is she whereabouts north of Montana?

Speaker 5 (28:36):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
In Alberta?

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
It's nice area there, nice, Ariah. We got about a
minute to go here.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Feels weird not to be stoned or high.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Well, I'm glad that you're winning that battle. Man.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Well, it's time to give it all up.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Hold on right there for a couple of seconds. Okay,
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Here comes the second half hour of spaced Out Radio tonight.
My name is Dave Scott. Thank you very much for
tuning us in as we have our good friend Steve
Pierce here talking about the night that fire in the
sky happened. And we're going to get into this story momentarily.
But first we want to remind all of you that
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Space Travelers Club. Steve Pierce was there, and now we're
giving him an opportunity to actually tell his story, something
that for some reason has almost eluded him for the
last number of decades, as he was a key eyewitness
to what happened to Travis Walton almost fifty years ago. Steve,
welcome back to spaced Out Radio. Thank you for your story,

(31:37):
to your journey.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well, thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
You mentioned right before the break that not many people
have actually asked you about your opinions of what happened
on that night. Why do you think that is? Why
do you think that everybody else got the attention but
you didn't.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Ask travels? I don't know. I've caught Travis and quite
a few lies. He told me that that the reason
they couldn't find me is the reason they put me
in the movie. Henry Thomas is a little boy who
played et. He plays my part in the movie. But

(32:26):
he said that they couldn't find me because they didn't
know my first name. But if you look at the
I had you before I left Snowflake, Travis was writing
this book and I had to sign a piece of
papers and give him permission to put my name in it. Well,

(32:50):
if you you see it, it shows my first name. Okay,
when we took the polygraph test, you know, they had
to use my first name. You cannot go do a
legal guard or you know you you can't use your
middle name. You know, so everything out there has my
whole aim on it. So he lied about that. I

(33:12):
think it was more about money.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
They even took one guy completely out. You know in
the movie it's it's six people instead of seven. Yeah,
so one guy they took completely out.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Why do you think they Hollywood did that? Because, you know,
once I found out kind of the true story of
it all, you know, in listening to Mike, listening to Travis,
and then watching the movie. Because I still remember the
first night I saw the movie Fire in the Sky
and it literally scared the hell out of me, it did,

(33:51):
you know, But you should have been there, my friend,
if you only knew my own personal UFO encounters. I've
I've seen two UFOs on the ground and they were
scary enough as it is, you know. So I'm a
big believer in the UFO phenomena. But for you going

(34:12):
through this, when you didn't go back up the mountain,
what the other guys did.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
The same night?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, the same night you didn't go back up the mountain.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
No, I stayed with that pick up until I get
back to Snowflake. You know, in the movie it shows
that Mike went back by himself. That's not true. They
would have been a murder that night, Mikes. I stayed
with that truck until it got me back to Snowflake.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Were you disappointed in the movie for the inaccuracies of it?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Time I saw the movie was in It was in
twenty eleven. I broke my neck and I was home
and my daughter I watched the movie was there and
I told her that was me, and then she wanted
me to prove it. So I had to get a

(35:09):
hold of Travis and that was the first but I
only watched her first fifteen minutes ors because I got
really mad, almost spoke to TV. I didn't even know
that they even made a movie until like, was it
ninety three or something like that. I was driving long
haul and I was in Barstoke, California, and there's a

(35:31):
fly in j there and I was getting fuel and
I went to pay for the fuel, went to the rescue,
and if you've ever been in a truck stop, they
got TV rooms in there. So I walked through the
TV room and there was Travis Walton on HBO talking
about fire in the sky. That's how I knew they
made a movie. And then I never seen the movie.

(35:53):
From ninety three, I knew about it, but I never
watched it until twenty eleven.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Why did you wait so long?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Flashbacks I When I saw Travis on HBO, I was
a day and a half early from my load in Louisiana.
The night I saw that, it kept me awake all night.
I never stopped until I got to where I was going.
That's how bad. It freaked me out. The first time
I knew they made a movie.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
That is almost like you suffer from PTSD.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
From this, i'd be sold that.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Can we say that?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, I've been told. I got yeah, yeah, But but
and then I didn't never watched it. And then I
don't like watching myself on TV, so I never watched

(37:03):
even the digression that you saw that I sent you.
I didn't watch that until the other night. And the
first time I watched the movie Fire in the Sky
all the way through was the other night with my girlfriend.
It was the first time I've watched it from the
beginning to the end. Wow. And I was time to

(37:26):
watch it quite a few times. But it just, you know,
you want to break the TV or something, you know,
because there is a couple of things in the movie.
That's right, Mike's name is right, Travis.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Was right, I'm I'm what about it?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Shows in the in the movie that Henry Thomas took
the polygraph test first. That part is true. I was
the first one to take the polygraph test, and I
told Travis for years, I said, I said they they
came after for me, you know, And oh, Travis says no.
Mike said, y'all Drew Straws in the book that says

(38:08):
we Drew Straws who took the polograph first. Well, I
told Travis that's that's wrong. They came after me. And
then when Paranormal Witness did their TV show on us,
he the guy that took the polograph test, even came
out and said that they came after me because I

(38:28):
was the youngest one, and they figured, you know, we'll
get him first, have him confess, and we won't have
to go through everybody else. See, they thought since I
was a kid, that I was going to freak out
and confess everything.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Right, and pardon my ignorance. How old were you when
this happened?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Seventeen? Wow? Everybody else were in their twenties, and Mike
was I think he was like thirty something.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Incredible.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
So when you.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Let's let's go back here. When you were waiting by
the truck, were police around you?

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah? You mean at the gas station.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
When did this all of a sudden become a criminal investigation.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I guess the same time. I don't know, you know,
Dravis said that, you know, he said a couple of
times that, you know, we didn't go back and look
for him. I was afraid that we were going to
get searched, and I had pot on me, so I
was trying to get it, stay away from the cops,

(39:40):
you know, because in the seventies that you know, that's
a big no no, you know, And that's the reason
I went back home, because I didn't want to get busted.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
How long did it take from the time you went
home that at night to all of a sudden being
accused of plotting a murder.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Time I got home, Well, by the next morning, Uh,
they were the cops were at my at my mom's part,
my mom's place, and and uh she was on the
front porch with him, and and the cops were telling them,
you know, we're pretty sure that Travis is dead, you know,
we're you know, we're gonna go out there and look
for a body. And uh so when I was hearing this,

(40:31):
I was thinking, why, you know, how are you going
to get away from a hundred cops and they find
by it because I thought they were going to find
a body. So I grabbed my cowboy boots and I
slunk out the back door and I hid. I've been
running ever since.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Did you have a criminal record at that time?

Speaker 7 (40:52):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yes, and no I M not really. I I was
uncle ahead and tell you. My brother had a motorcycle
and and uh, he's he was trying we had an

(41:19):
there was a new girl in town, and he was
trying to you know, you know what I mean. But anyway,
he was trying to get rid of me because there
was nobody at our house except us three. So he
gives me this, He says, well, go take off on
my motorcycle. So I took off on his motorcycle and
I wrecked it and and uh and then when we

(41:41):
judge wanted to see us, and my brother told him.
I told the judge that I stole the motorcycle. So
that started my criminal record. I didn't say anything again,
I just sat there and didn't say nothing. And so
I guess you could say my brother started my criminal record.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
Well, I've never done.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
A violent crime, right, right, I mean, so, how long
was it before the police found you to finally interrogate
you and then put you on the polygraph to see
if you were involved with a criminal act against Travis.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
There was a cop named right and I was coming
out the next day. I think it was the next
day or the day after, but anyway, he he he
sees me walking and he drives by and he turns
back around, so he's his doors facing me, you know.

(42:54):
And so he was telling me that that even that
if I didn't commit the crime in the state of Arizona, Ah,
if you're with the person that knows that did the crime,
you're just as guilty as they are. And they don't
need a body in Arizona to convict you from murder.

(43:17):
So he was trying to intimidate me, and I told
him that, you know, this is all the truth. He said, well,
you know, and then I saw him again the city cops.
Is there one to the hassles made Clake Clate didn't
like us. Well, anyway, he saw him again, and he
finally he said, you know, you're all going to take

(43:37):
a photographic test. We're going to find out anyway that
you guys are lying, so you might as well confess,
you know, And that's the reason we took the first day,
that that they went out there blessed we couldn't find anything,
you know. Ah. So, and Mike says that that some

(44:02):
people came out of the woods with and checked his
hard hat for radiation, you know and stuff, and they disappeared.
Well this is true, Mike. How come you didn't tell
Gillespie because Gillespie had the same equipment this guy had,
you know, And I have another question. And they had
radiation on the hard hass And we never wore hard hats. Never. Never.

(44:25):
And you know that picture you see us all wearing
a hard hat, that's all. That's the same hard hat
we just traded. Travis wanted us looked good with a
hard hat on. So everybody's wearing the same hard hat.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
And those pictures, Oh wow, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
But my question is to Mike, is okay there's radiation
on He said there was radiation on the hard hats? Right, Well,
we're we're the truck. We're all facing to the right. Okay,
the truck's facing this way and we're all to the right.
The truck had plywood around it, So how did the

(45:04):
radiation get through the plywood? Did it go through the plywood,
over the plywood, or around the pridewood. That's my question,
you know, And I don't believe there was no radiation.
I think Mike made Died up is to make the
movie look good.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
As this story unfolded for you, and I'm really interested
in learning about what was going through your mind as
we got about eight minutes to go here before we
have to go to break. Steve Pearce is with us
tonight talking about the legendary fire in the sky abduction
by UFOs. When you started getting interrogated, at what point

(45:47):
did it feel really real to you that you might
go up on charges of murder.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
The next morning when the cops were at the door.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
They were hell bent in order to prosecute you.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
See they they told me, they said, well, we know
you didn't commit this murder. We know you didn't do it,
but we know that you know who did, and you
won't tell us. So if you don't tell us, you're
just as guilty as the person who did it. See.
They they thought Alan Dallas is the one, you know.

(46:24):
They thought Alan Dallas is the one that killed him.
And they just couldn't figure out why we were protecting him,
you know, but we didn't kill him.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
What was it like going under a polygraph? What kind
of questions did they ask you?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
They they asked four questions. I have my mom after
this happened, went to Holebrook and got got the paperwork
that it's out there now that the polygraph test. There
was four questions, if we do be harm Travis or

(47:10):
The last one was that did you actually see a UFO?
The fourth question? And we all passed it. Gee, I
can't you know, there's a lot of things that I
don't understand about. Listen, they can't figure out. But there's
no way I could ever pass a polograph test saying
that just didn't happen because I saw.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
As Were you ever told to be silent? Were you
ever told by government officials or police or anybody to
shut up about this story? Like it never happened?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Now?

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Are men either or now?

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
You've been warned?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah a while back, Yeah, I had men men in
black followed me. I was sitting in a graveyard and
I got to think about going to grave guards. A
lot of history and grave guards. I love history. I
was sitting there and and I seen this.

Speaker 8 (48:11):
Black car pull up and I laughed to myself, you know,
men and black, and they sit there and they watched
me for a while, and I got up and started
walking away.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
When I got up, they came out of the graveyard
and they follow in the same direction I was going,
and they passed me, and they pulled into this restaurant
and one guy got out, got in my face, started
taking my picture, and then got back in the vehicle
and took off. What do you think this happens to

(48:48):
me all the time, especially when I go right before
I go on a show. Somebody will you know. I
don't know why I tell the same story over and
over or.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Back then when you were going through the investigation, were
you told after Travis got back to just keep quiet
about it by any government officials?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
They couldn't find me. No, nobody's no government ever told
me to be quiet?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Okay, I was.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I was the least important one, right.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Did you have communication with the other fellas as this
investigation was going on?

Speaker 3 (49:40):
I saw him maybe once or twice, daring it, I
stayed away from him, you know, No, I didn't. Just Allen.
Allen is the only one I actually knew. I knew
John for three days before this happened. I knew Kenny
Peterson three days before this happened. I knew all these

(50:01):
guys three days before this happened. I knew Mike Rogers
and Uh two weeks maybe three weeks before this happened.
I knew uh Travis Walton, Ah from a distance. You know,
I knew who he was, but I didn't know them.

(50:21):
I don't I don't know none of these guys personally.
All I know about these guys is fired the sky.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
That's a pretty deep sentiment. I mean, you don't know
these guys, the majority of them, for just three days,
and then all of a sudden be thrust into this
life changing, life altering event.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Well, people think we were all buddies. We were there
to work. That was you know. I wanted to quit
the week before because the week before I had relatives
that the work there. There was two of them and
then another guy that worked there, and they both quit.
That's the reason they all quit. That's the reason we

(51:06):
had a new crew coming on Monday.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Right because no matter what, the job still has to
get done. We got about three minutes to go before
we have to go to break. Here at the top
of the hour. Steve Pierce is with us tonight on
spaced Out Radio. What was your reaction when you found
out that Travis was alive?

Speaker 3 (51:36):
I was trying to read the What was the question again?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
What was your reaction when you found out Travis was alive?
And how did you find out?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Okay, I didn't know until the next night that he
was back. I was gone hiding all day and I
got home and my mom said that that somebody can
buy and said Travis was in Tucson hospital. Actually wasn't,
but that's what everybody thought. And I'm glad that he

(52:10):
came back because my mom thought for my mom because
she thought we killed him. It wasn't for my mom.
I wouldn't have cared if he came back or not.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Why did your mom feel that you guys did that?

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I don't know. I really don't know why, because I've
done some crazy stuff in my life. I guess I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
How much did that hurt you?

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Everybody thought we killed him the whole town. I thought
we killed him. After the second third day. You know
what's weird about this? People came from miles and miles
and showed up there, And how did they find out
so quick. That's that's what I've always wondered, because you know,

(53:10):
we lived in a small town. They didn't have, you know,
the internet back then. And and within two days of
this happened, the town was doubles, the motels were packed.
People came from all over the world. It was the
first time I ever seen real Asians. Ah they I

(53:33):
think it was like a second or third day. I
was trying to hide again and this car pulls up
and these people come from Japan and they asked me
to take them out there, and they paid me and
take them out there, and uh, I didn't understand half
of what they were saying. One guy could talk, you know,

(53:55):
talking a little bit of English. But that was the
first time I actually went back out there. And then
I went out there on the third or fourth day.
The fourth day, I think it was with my uncle
because he thought we killed him too, you.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Know, right, Oh, I want you to hold that thought.
I want you to hold that thought because we are
going to go to break here in just a little
bit and Steve, I the next hour I'm going to
just I want you to open up. You it's your
hour to basically tell your story to the world. And
you know what, I think it's important that you know,

(54:32):
coming up fifty years on this entire story, that we
learn about you. Steve Pierce is our guest tonight on
spaced Out Radio. What Really Happened? Travis Walt next on
the Mighty Sor.

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Speaker 3 (59:57):
Is this weird? Doing this straight? I need a joint?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Oh the hippie let us and calm everything down right
about now?

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Oh yeah, it was either drugs or my girlfriend, so
I took my girlfriend. It is weird being straight though.

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Yeah? Never mind, then.

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this is a special night of radio. Indeed, Steve Pierce
is here. Almost fifty years ago he was on the
crew that watched Travis Walton get zapped by a light
from a UFO and for a long time he's had

(01:02:44):
troubles dealing with this story and he's here to tell
us tonight. Steve, thank you so much for us. You
know what I can honestly say, Steve, I've been doing
this show for almost eleven years, and this is probably
one of the most impact full interviews I have ever done.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yes, I've talked to a lot of people, a lot
of experiencers, but I think for us listening to this
live that first hour of radio, you could really feel
the emotion and the torture that you have gone through

(01:03:26):
over this story. And I commend you for having this
strength to come on this show and talk about it.
So thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
You're welcome, and thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Glad you were here to tell it, that is for sure.
Right before the break, you were talking about just going
through the emotions of it all. When Travis came back,
you found out your mom had told you that they
thought he was at a Tucson hospital getting checked out.
You know what was going through your mind at that

(01:03:57):
time when all of a sudden you realized he was back.
Was it a sense of relief or was it a
sense of questioning, like where the hell was he?

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Little? Both. I was glad that he was back because
of my mom, because my mom, you know, if you
thought we killed him, and and then after that, I
be good. A lot of some of the stuff that
I don't know, I get confused about because it doesn't
it doesn't make any sense. So I was confused. I

(01:04:30):
didn't know back then, when I was seventeen years old,
you know, I thought you really wanted me to get
into this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yes, I would love for you to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Okay. I was born Pentecostal. Okay, my mom was a Christian.
She's a Bible thumper. She's part of the God Squad.
She taught Moses a couple of things. But anyway, h
I thought this is from the deal. When this first happened,
I thought the world was coming to an end. You know. Uh.

(01:05:08):
When I first saw Travis getting zapped, in my head,
my mom, oh, my mom is right. The world's coming
to an end, you know. And that's what I was
thinking when we were in that truck going down, you know,
driving away from the UFO. I thought the world was
coming to an end.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Pretty creepy, pretty creepy. I'm gonna kind of off topic
here for just a second. After that incident happened, did
you have any other UFO ocurrences or sightings after? Yes, before,
I've had them before. And have you been taking yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
You're going to have to read the book. Mm hmm.
I I'm not getting into there. Where I lived out
before we moved into town.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I lived outside of Snowflake uh. And there was no
electricity out there, no running water, and so at nighttime
when it got dark, it got really dark, and there
was a ridge on one side of us, and at
nighttime you could see this thing flying around and stuff,
you know, And that's when I first started seeing them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Let's go back to the craft for a second. What
did it look like up close?

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
It was solid white, like two cake pans to get
on top of each other. It was beautiful. It was.
It was It's like looking at a brand new corvette.
You know, you're you know, it was. It was an

(01:07:17):
awesome psych to see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
And how close were you to it when you guys
pulled up to it? How close was it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Thirty forty feet close enough to spit on it, to
throw a rock at it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
And the size of it like compared to the truck,
I'd say it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Was about forty feet forty five feet long?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
How tall?

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
M I don't know about about the same. I guess, well,
it's hard to really tell because you know, you're I
didn't have a measuring tape and measured it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
You know. Oh, I understand, I totally understand. I'm just
trying to, you know, paint a picture for those of
us who weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
I don't think it wasn't a mothership. That that's what
you mean. It was a small ship, you know, it
was a craft. But it was big enough to put
somebody in it, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
And you figure how high off the ground it was?

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Again, it was below the tree lines. It wasn't above
tree lines. It was kind of like, you know, right
below the tree lines. So I'd say it was probably
twenty thirty feet from the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
My goodness, I can't imagine what was going through your
mind at that point. Being seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Old, I thought the world was coming to an end.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Do you think that it was there for you guys
to see or was it just a coincidence.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I believe it was there because I believe it was
there waiting for us because they would have heard the
chainsaws before we left. They knew we were there. They
knew we were there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And was it making any sound?

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Not at first. He didn't start making the sound until
Travis got up too close and it started rocking back
and forth. That's when it started making the sound.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
And what did it sound like?

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Well, it was a high pitching noise and a beeping noise.
You know, people said that I've said this was a hoax.
I have never actually said it was a hoax. But
I said, I don't believe travel was taken by alien.
You know. Then I have told a couple of people

(01:10:08):
one thing and told somebody else another thing so they
both could argue with each other. That was funny, that
was great. But but I've never actually said this was
a hoax. I mean, people will put words in my mouth.
I've got people who attacked me all the time. Ah,

(01:10:32):
but this happened. I don't agree with what Travis is
Travis is saying. You know, I don't believe he was
gone five days. I think part of that he was,
you know, somewhere else. But this is my theory. So

(01:10:52):
but Travis was that by some kind of craft. I
have to I can't lie about that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
If it wasn't Aliens, where do you think he went.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Area fifty one? Because when he when we saw it
take off when I was seventeen, I never heard about
Area fifty one as years ago. By well, we see
it take off. It took off that way. You know.
I believe this was from the government. I believe that

(01:11:31):
that that roswell is from the government.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Can I explain, Yeah, get right into it. This is
about you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
In nineteen forty five, World War two was over. Hitler
was dead, and we took half the German scientists Operation
paper Clip. Russia took the other half. Okay, this is

(01:12:04):
nineteen forty five. This it to me is the beginning
of the space age, okay. And then we had these
We brung all these Germans over here, and they were
in Alabama and clusters airfields in New Mexico. They had

(01:12:26):
all these Germans over here. And so in forty seven,
is it forty seven is the crash? Yes, yeah, okay,
I'm sober, so my mind's all. I'm sober. I've been

(01:12:46):
sober for a while. People.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Congratulations on that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
By the way, Then the crash in forty seven, okay,
I I don't believe because nobody knew about Operation paper Clip.
So in my opinion, they weren't hiding the fact that
they were having aliens on the ship. They were hiding

(01:13:12):
the fact that they had Germans on American soil. Not
just any Germans, they had Nazis. So I believe that
has something to do with that. And I believe that,
you know, because nobody heard of of aliens in Roswell

(01:13:37):
in nineteen seventy six. We're all over the typloids right
back then. That's the Internet, and so in the seventy
seven National Choir had to come up with something else.
And National in Choir is the one who started the
alien invasion in Roswal. They're the ones who first brung

(01:13:59):
it up. Did you know that a magazine? So m hm.
So I believe that Roswell had to do it. You know,
if there's any aliens, they're the Germans. That's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Yeah, you say you've seen UFOs and potentially have been taken,
but you don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
I don't know if I really been taken or not,
so I asked for as that I don't want to
talk about it, and I don't want to talk about
nothing I can't prove because if I can't prove it,
people come after you and they call you liars and stuff.
So why bring it up, you know? And besides, something
is if you you people out there, if you actually

(01:14:48):
see one, enjoy it because they're they're showing you. They're
they're they're they're letting you see them on purpose, because
you could have two or th three people standing there
and one person might be able to see two people
in the third room won't see it at all, you
know what I mean. So when you go to call,

(01:15:11):
don't call. Move on. But anyway, well, go on ask
another question. I'm getting nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
No, I think you're doing absolutely great. The idea that
you know, you don't believe that Travis went to Ali
it went a Toutler space or wherever they took him,
that he went to area fifty one. What is the
logic behind that thought?

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
I don't know. Actually, Alan Dallas is the one to
put that in my head. So that's that's what he believed,
and we you know, to me it makes more sense.
I don't know. I believe that this had to do

(01:16:03):
with the government, and you're never going to change my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Did you, okay, prior to everybody kind of going their
separate ways, did you have an opportunity at all to
ever sit down with Travis to just say what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Man? No, No, I did see Travis right after this happened.
But we all saw him together, you know. But Travis
has never asked my opinion for anything. He doesn't like me.
There's a couple of reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
But and yet here you are tied to this emotional story.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
You know, this story really eats me up sometimes because
they've lied so much and and I don't understand and
why why would they? You know, I understand why Hollywood
did what they did to make a good movie. But
if you're going to write a book, you know, at
least you know have your facts right. It's the book

(01:17:17):
that I disagree with. The movie is Hollywood. So I
guess once you sign the rights over to somebody that
they can do what they want with it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Do you look at the entire scenario as you look
back at it wearing you know, your cowboy hat, your
beard is now gray, You're not a young teenager anymore.
Do you look back at this incident and just you know,
still try and break it down into your head. What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Yeah, all the time. Oh yeah, this was the most
scariest thing in my life. You know, I've seen things after,
I've seen things before, but nothing was like this. Yeah,
even at this at the same time we saw this UFO. Uh,

(01:18:19):
they were having cows that were mutilated. Me and my
little brother, we we found them on and uh there
was no blood in in the in the cow and
there was no blood around it, just to burn mark,
just a mark on it. So that's kind of confused

(01:18:41):
me too because it happened at the same time. And
then if I get this right, five Alabama, they had
a UFO there too, and about the same time they
were still they had the same problem, the colmunlation with
the UFO. So I don't know if this is together,

(01:19:05):
you know what I mean, You know what I mean,
it's just no.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
I I totally get you on that. We got about
five minutes ago before we have to go to break
in the bottom of the hour. Steve Pierce is our
guest tonight on Spaced Out Radio. Steve, when you kind
of look back and you you mentioned it that you
know the location, you still know where it happened. You
still know everything. A couple of weeks ago, you said

(01:19:36):
you went back, you took your girlfriend there. What was
it like? What or what has it been like revisiting
that spot?

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
It was kind of freaky. We pull up there and
and we was fritioningly get out, and all of a sudden,
we hear all these weird noises we've never heard before,
and you know, a different sound, and so we decided
to go back into town. But it was a weird

(01:20:06):
feeling being out there. And we we got there and
mill of the night. So uh, but it was kind
of weird. We heard go ahead and tell you, I
can pass the polographs that saying this. I don't like
to say nothing. I can't pass the polograph that song.

(01:20:28):
But anyway, when we were pulling out, we saw bigfoot
running across. And I don't even believe in bigfoot now,
I wondered, Wow, I don't know that they were making
the sound because it was the weirdest voices we've ever heard,

(01:20:50):
like a Holley noise. Uh you know it was. It
was a Holley noise. It was it was a wicked noise.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
What did you think about? You know, we'll get into
bigfoot if we got some time a little bit later.
Because I'm a giant Bigfoot fan.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
I was the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Oh Man, what did you feel like or did you
ever see when Travis failed the polygraph on that television show?

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I watched the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
What did you think when that happened?

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Yeah, I I it was it was it was set
up they I watched the whole thing and one of
the questions that they asked him that he passed, I
know he was lying, So I know that that you
know they set him up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
You have had an extremely strained relationship, to put a politely,
with both Mike Rogers and Travis Walton since that happened.
You mentioned a couple of times, without getting into detail,
that you and Travis Walton do not get along. If
you had something specifically about this entire event to talk
to them about, what two minute answer? What would you

(01:22:19):
want to say to them? Say to Travis, Travis or Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
I'd like the Mike to tell the truth, because Mike's
the one is in my opinion, Mike wrote the book
and Dana Rodgers type it up as fast as she could,
and so it's Mike that I would want because Mike's
made my life miserable writing that book and putting that

(01:22:49):
stuff and that said he said that I cried and
involved and all is that's not true. I want to
take a polograph test and prove it. Thirty years thirty years.
My uncle made fun of my ass, sorry, made fun
of me because of that book, called me a coward.
And I'll tell you what, I'm no coward. And anybody

(01:23:11):
that knows me. When I was driving truck, I've been
known to uh to uh rip people out of their
their big trucks and and and getting fights with them.
So this this taught me one thing? Is it taught
me how to fight? You know? Because uh But anyway,

(01:23:33):
I it's Mike is the one that that told all
the lies and Travis just goes along with it. That's
why I called Travis how the duty? You know who
how the duty was? Yes, the puppet and Rogers Rogers
is is what was his name, Bob, uncle Bob? What

(01:23:55):
was the puppet holder's name? But anyway, this is years ago,
but you're probably not even old enough at all. Who
who he is? Do you?

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
I know exactly who he is. I never got to
see an episode gets up here in Canada when I
was a kid, it really didn't play. But you know what,
when we come back, we're going to go to break
here for a second, Steve. When we come back, I
want to ask you a couple more questions, and we're
going to get us some audience questions here too, because.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
I've been waiting for I've been reading it, I've been waiting.
I want to mask the questions.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
We're going to do that the next half hour on
the show because I think it's absolutely amazing and uh
to hear your story. And this is a momentous show
for spaced Out Radio tonight in having you one, so
stay tuned. Spaced Out Radio continues right after this.

Speaker 9 (01:24:53):
You're listening space Out Video with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Guys, I'm gonna try and get in as many questions
as I can. Okay, it's going to be difficult, but
this is one hell of a good show. This is
one hell of a good show, Uncle Jimbo. The studio

(01:25:45):
has always been this color, but I just had a
lot of things blocking it. So I took a bunch
of stuff down and just kind of tidied it up
a little bit. But it's good to see you my friend.
Much love to you, Steve, or you're having fun.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Yeah, yeah, I'm still kind of nervous, but yeah, hey,
thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Oh no, man, the pleasure.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
You almost grow as good as beard as I do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
I try. I'm very proud of my beard.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
This is this is a month and a half old.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
I've had this for oh goodness, six seven months now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
So yeah, see, I don't have none up here, no more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
I still don't have any male pattern baldness but up top.
But the beard, I'm just letting it grow. Ross dogs.
How you doing, my friend, been a while, Glad to
have you here.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Hey, I want to thank everybody that's here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Yeah one second, Steve, Jim Goodall. We changed the dates
specifically for you for Las Vegas and the fact that
we're going to do it on my birthday weekend, so
now you have no choice to be there. May twenty

(01:27:48):
first to twenty fifth. That will be our next Vegas
fan party if you want to come hang out with
the likes of myself, Merle, Jim Goodall, and many many more.
We don't have a location yet, but the one thing
we do know is we're not allowing Merle to choose
a location and uh yeah, go from there, come come

(01:28:11):
hang with us. Yeah, our audience is loving you, Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
I see that. Hey, thank you people makes me feel good.
I've been called there all my lives.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Well, I'm going to tell you that anytime you want
to come on this show and talk about it, you
just let me know. Okay, you got a safe home here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
You know. I look for a lot of answer since
this has happened. I mean I I spent a lot
of time back in the day when a big little
owned Skinwalker ranch, and I spent like ten a good
ten years off and on straight going up there all

(01:29:03):
the time looking for answers. I'm looking for a portal.
I'm not you know, but there's no there's no aliens.
Uh No, no UFOs. They say there's a UFOs there.
That's I was there all the time. That place is evil.

(01:29:23):
It has nothing to do with UFOs.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Did you ever meet Bob Bigelow?

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Uh No, I met some of his his guys that
ran me off. Is off the property, m h. I've
been chased all the way to Roosevelt, uh trying to
get on their property and right, but I've been on it.

(01:29:56):
One place on the property makes your hair stand up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Wow, I'm going to get you to hold on right
there because we're going to come back in ten seconds.
Thank you to t Bone times too, Emily Alaska's Greatest Athlete,
Necessary Dialogue, Candice and truck or Andrew. Here we go, everyone,

(01:30:32):
Here we go with the second half of spaced Out
Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott. Thank you very
much for tuning us in wherever you are on this
beautiful planet we call Earth. We have Steve Pierce till
the top of the hour. We're going to get into
some audience questions coming up very very quickly. But first
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(01:30:54):
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(01:31:16):
and on Patreon in the Space Travelers Club. Here we go.
Steve Pierce, he was in the truck Mike Rogers was
driving the night Travis Walton was taken and he is
here with us telling his side of the story. He
has not told it often publicly, but we're giving him
the time to do so tonight. Steve, thank you for

(01:31:37):
being so candid and amazing as a guest tonight. We
appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Let's get to some audience questions because they are building up.
I see them, all right. We're going to start off
with Beno here, who is asking did Dallas and Travis
dislike each other like the movie portrayed?

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Yeah? Yeah, they couldn't stand each other. They never liked
each other even No, they they always fought over women,
either one of them get one, so they used to
fight over them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Oh that's not fun. That's not fun. All right, Let's
go to another question. Desolate is asking what shape was
the UFO if you can remember? Always not clear. Travis
himself doesn't go into detail or it's lost, but you
kind of described that a little bit in the last
half hour. But I'll just get you to touch base
on that again.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
Okay. It was like two cake pans on top of
each other, right, and it was solid white. It had
like window frames. I don't you couldn't see through it,
but you could see the frames around, you know, and
it was a white that I've never seen before. It

(01:33:05):
was a glowing white.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
It must have been beautiful and scary at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Yeah, it was beautiful. I could see Travis getting zapped
every day. I just wish they'd turn it up a
little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Right, all right, Well let's go to another question here.
Let's go to paramarv. Is it true that you were
offered ten thousand dollars by someone to say the whole
thing was a hoax? And was it by Philip Klass?

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Yeah? I knew this question was coming. Yes. After this happened,
I got married and I lived in Taylor, Arizona, that's
next to Snowflake, and a cop named Jim Click came

(01:34:03):
to the door and said that Philip Class said that
he would And I didn't know who Philip Class was,
and he said, he said he's He said he'd give
you ten thousand dollars if you could you would say
this was a hawx. Yes, that's true, and I will

(01:34:24):
take a polygraph test and I can prove it's true.
People say I'm lying. If Philip Class didn't offer you this, Yeah,
he did. And then Travis didn't believe it at first either.
But before after I first came out of the came
back out in twenty eleven, Travis checked it out with

(01:34:47):
Jim Click and his family and they it's true. It
really he did come to my door.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Very strange, very strange. Let's go to another question here,
or let me pardon me before we do that. Let
me go back to that. I mean, ten grand back
then was a lot of money. I mean, how do you,
as a young man turned that down? To me, it
shows your integrity for the truth rather than than you know,

(01:35:22):
doing it for the money.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Well, actually I never thought about it after he left,
and then when we uh, when I moved to Texas.
Back to Texas, he would he would call me on
the phone and about once a month and want me

(01:35:46):
to uh instead he had you know, you'd give me
money if we could prove it we had, he wasn't.
It ain't like it just come out with states hoax.
You had to prove it was a hoax, you know.
And I couldn't prove it was a hoax. And the
wife I was married to at the time told me

(01:36:07):
if I took the money, she wouldn't spend it anyway,
you know, because you know, because but I never took
the money, and yes he did offer.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Me the money. Let's move on, let's go to desolate again.
On citing the craft, was it hazy or very distinctive
in the air? Was there an oz effect that drew
you closer? Was there a feeling to flee upon witnessing
the object?

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
When I saw it, it kind of like it kind
of like what was trying to make us all come?
You know what I mean, was trying to make us all.
I don't believe Travis got out on his own. I
think it was kind of like you know, so, mum,

(01:37:04):
it was. It was awesome, It was, it was It
was a glow that I've never seen before well before that, Yes,
that close. It was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Do you think Travis was called out of the vehicle? Yes,
like the craft called about.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
Well who was ever in the craft? Yes? Because Kenny
Peterson was starting to get out too when Mike took off.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Would you have got out if you had an opportunity?

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Yeah, I think so. I think we all would have,
except Mike. Mike's wanted freaked out. Mike. Remember people say
you all drove off and have No, we did not
drive off. On Mike drove off and left. I wasn't
driving right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
All right, Let's get to another question here, let's go
to t bone. Are there others on the crew that
agree with you over the years. I know we've lost
half of them, but the rest.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Of the crew they're dead. Yes, Alan Dallas is agreed
to what what I just said.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Yes, Jules is asking have you ever had any health
effects you feel that we're attributed to your proximity to
the craft.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
There's nothing wrong with me. I'm healthy. I got a
bunch of broken bones, but at my age, I'm pretty healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
Fast Timmy would like to know how many polygraph tests
did Travis take and pass? What do you even know?

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
I wouldn't know that answer.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
Let's reverse that. How many polygraphs did you take over
this event?

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Just one? I did take one, uh huh years later,
but it was more personal than I had to do with.
You know, I married a woman from Canada and she
wouldn't marry me to She paid for a polygraph just
to prove that I was telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
How do you have that conversation with someone that you
were there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
It's kind of hard sometimes it sometimes it's easy because
if the person leaves you and it's you know, it's
easy to carry on conversation with him. But if they
don't believe you, you know, you don't know how they're

(01:40:05):
going to react. I've had crazy people come up to
me and say some crazy things. I've been threatened. And
by the way, John Glatt's son told me if I
ever mentioned his name, mentioned his dad's name again on air,

(01:40:26):
that he was going to beat me up. Well, I
just mentioned it. Come find me anyway. I've gotten emails
saying that they're going to hurt me because they believe
Travis is a god, you know, right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Just a quick comment from one of our good friends,
Jim Goodall, who is a member of the US Aviation
Hall of Fame. He says, I'm enjoying what you have
to say. Keep it up, Steve, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Thank you. Yeah, if I don't get beat up tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
Jim is a hero and an idol of mind. So
when he speaks, it's it's very very cool when when
that happens. All right, let's get to another question here.
Let's go to t Bone here. Had you ever been
contacted by any agencies You mentioned that you you have
seen the men in black first.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
Time I saw the men in black was was.

Speaker 8 (01:41:32):
Was.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
I didn't know what they were back in the seventies.
But first time I saw him, they they were in
a restaurant, and that was the first time I saw him.
And I've seen him quite a few after that. And uh,
the last time I saw him was in the graveyard
or I was telling you about. But I'll tell you

(01:41:56):
a story. I was Las Vegas. Uh, there's a flying
jay once you start going towards Utah. Yes, I was
getting fuel there one time and going to Provo where
where where my company was at. And so when I left,
I took off and I'm heading towards Progo. From Las Vegas,

(01:42:20):
you have to go through Arizona. Well, a black car
was following me, and so when I got to the
port in Utah, I pulled into the port and the
black car kept going right. So I pulled into the
port and I took off, And when I got back

(01:42:40):
on the freeway, I started heading towards Progo, and here's
this black car again. It's right behind me. It's following me.
And so finally I had enough. I pulled over at
the rest area. I got out and went back there
to find out what was going on. It was two
women that knew. I knew one of them. She saw

(01:43:03):
me at the truck stop and she thought it would
be funny because her friend was in a black car
to follow me.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Oh nice, that's what I thought. All right. Let's move
on to another question here. I love this question by
the unknown. He's asking looking back now, after all these years,
what part of that night in the woods has stayed

(01:43:32):
with you the most? The moment itself or the way
people treated you afterwards?

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
People treated the way they treated me afterwards. People are
treating me bad. I've lost relatives over this because they
think you think I'm nuts. It was worse after because
you know, oh, I married this one woman that she

(01:44:04):
she didn't believe me. She didn't believe the story. So
everything that I said she didn't believe. So that relationship
didn't last very long.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Has it heart been hard to to be able to
trust people after this?

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
I don't trust anybody except the woman stand it in
front of me. Her, she's the one that wants me
to come teach me, keeps.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Me going so beautiful, beautiful. Well we'll say hello to her.
What's her name?

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
Should I tell her?

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Is your name Joline, Yeah, Joline, that's my wife's name.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
That's the wife name.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Were you named after the song too?

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
No, she wasn't named after the song.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Oh what what?

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
What was your wife name?

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
All?

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Your wife? That song's not that old, is it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
She was named after the song?

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Yes, that songs? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
Looking back after these years, what port of the you know,
the part the polygraph test? What really sticks with me too,
that that was that was the most scariest day of
my life.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
At any point when you were taking that polygraph did
you think this is going to be rigged against me?

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
I thought, Well, the few days before we took the
polygraph test, Alan Dallas, his mother kept saying that they
were going to fix us and make us all guilty,
you know, so I thought we was walking into a trap.
I I even tried to sneak out the door of
the morning that the polygraph test, but my mom caught me.

(01:46:12):
And my mom is the one that took me to
the whole book because I was a minor, and my mom.
I even told Travis this. I told my mom was
the only one in there besides us in the cops
in the polygraph and he's not all the parents were there.
I said, all the parents weren't in there. They weren't
allowed in there. The only reason my mom was allowed
in there because I'm a minor. I was a miner,

(01:46:35):
so she had to be in there. Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
I couldn't imagine that pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
That's why I'm glad that that that Travis came back
because of my mom.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Jose is asking did the UFO craft have a slight
humming sound and did you notice any strange smell like
humidity or electricity.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
I felt the beam. You could feel it when when
it hit Travis. You could feel it on your face.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Did it burn you?

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
I'm not sure it didn't burn, But now, don't give
me a I'm not sure about this one. But I
heard that Guinny Peterson. Uh uh, since the door was
open and he was right there with it, it caused
some damage to him. But I can't prove that it's

(01:47:42):
true or not. I just because I've never he's never
told me that. It's what I've heard through the grapevine,
through travels and stuff. So I can't prove that one.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
But all right, let's continue on. Let's go to Jules again.
Was the light of breathing pulse of light.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
The light was a bulls green night. It just came out.
It just I mean, it just adapting.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
We're gonna change the pace here for a second. What
do you want the world to know about you regarding
this situation. I know it's been tough the last fifty
years for you, but what do we need to know
about you regarding this?

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
I don't know. I'm not lying. I'm telling the truth
to but I don't care what people think about me.
I've had I've been I've been called names all my life.
I'm used to it, so you know it doesn't bother

(01:48:58):
me no more. I don't care what people think. Either
you're going to believe it or you're not. So you know,
I'm not going to try to convince somebody this is
true because it's it's not worth it anymore. I mean,
they say more people believe in UFOs nowadays. That's true.

(01:49:18):
But if I walked into a store and started telling
these people my story, they think I'm nuts. I had
a neighbor who didn't believe I was Steve Pearce.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
Do you want to be recognized for this?

Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
Sometimes? Yes, sometimes no. I never really wanted to be famous.
I only came out for my daughter, and now she's grown.
It ain't no big deal no more. But I just
wanted to prove to her that I was the person
that was in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
Is she convinced that you are now?

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Oh? Yeah, she's convinced. Yeah, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
Yeah. Desolate One wants to know, could you elaborate on
why you feel it was government rather than Etah, I'm
gonna leave something for my book. When do you plan
on finishing your books?

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
It'll be done in a couple of months. I'm almost there.
Some things I haven't talked about because I want to
wait until the book. People have been telling me to
write a book for a long time. And I had
a girlfriend, Oh wow, she wasn't really a girlfriend, but
one of my kids's mother's. She wrote a book about me.

(01:51:02):
And then another one wrote she published it, but I
don't think it's out there anymore. And then another one
wrote something and they use my name, but they're not
my books. I didn't write them.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
They did, right, right, Let's go back to Desolate One
here for a second. Your beliefs and views on the
world of UFO is now fifty years later, what do
you believe it's all about Do you think that we're
being visited?

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
Yes? Yeah, And I believe the government knows more than
they're saying. And I believe in aliens. You have to
be kind of you know, there's got to be more
in this just out there, you know, And I believe them.

(01:51:54):
I didn't believe in bigfoot until I swear I think
I saw a bigfoot. I can't believe that I was.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
It is pretty amazing, let's be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
Yeah, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Do you think let's go back to that. We only
got two minutes left. Do you think that you saw
bigfoot in that area? Because maybe with the encounter and
with everything else, that maybe it's a hot spot for
weird phenomena.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
That's what my girlfriend thinks. Yeah, yeah, that's what she thinks.

Speaker 1 (01:52:36):
How close were the was the bigfoot to you?

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
Oh about it? It ran across the road about fifteen
seet Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Wow, that is close.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
It was huge.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
Did he look at you?

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
He kind of glanced at oh and looked and went
into the forest.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
And now you're a believer.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
I wasn't before, but I am.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
Now. We have one minute to go. What would you
like to say to the listening audience?

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
Don't call move on, I don't know. Thank you for
having me. Keep looking up there after.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna end this by saying that
in eleven years almost of doing this show, this is
one of the most impactful conversations I've ever had regarding
an ET encounter, but more specifically this story. And just

(01:53:55):
to let you know, both Mike Rogers and Travis Walton
have said they would on this show and they never
have really really, so I'm glad to finally get some
inside information on one of the greatest encounters in ufology.
Steve Pierce, thank you for being on spaced Out Radio.

(01:54:18):
We appreciate it. Coming up next, Josh Rutledge will be
with us for the UFO Report, Dave One on One Night,
and the Weird News of the Week.

Speaker 9 (01:54:29):
You're listening to spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
Steve, I hope I did you some justice tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
Hey, thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
I hope you had a good time and I hope
you felt you were treated very fairly.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
I was. Can they still hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
Yes? They can.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
One other thing people before before before National a Choir
came out with the story of Roswell. Travis never called
him Grays. He didn't start calling him until after after

(01:55:25):
a national acquirer came out with the story, So good night.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Steve, will talk soon. Take care. But how awesome was that? People?
How amazingly awesome was Steve? Wow? I'm taking a break.
I gotta go.

Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
Process us.

Speaker 5 (01:57:03):
USA, right, people, you got about a minute fifteen to go.

Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
I hope you guys enjoyed that CS. How you doing?
Josh is in the chat room? Who else?

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
It's a few?

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
That was an amazing show. Amazing show. How you doing, Buddy,
fantastic man? It was a good show.

Speaker 6 (02:00:31):
I didn't watch all of it, but for the parts
that I saw, I'll say that I'm a pretty good judge.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Of people, and he seemed really genuine. Oh yeah, one
hundred percent. That was amazing. We're gonna come out right
to you here tonight and get right to it. Okay.
Thank you to t Bone Times too, Alaska's greatest athlete.
Necessary dialogue, Candace and Andrew for the great super chats.

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Where's the Kaboo? I was supposed to be a third

(02:02:25):
shuddering kaboo?

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
Get up?

Speaker 1 (02:02:32):
Can up? You have made me very angry, very angry.

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
Indeed.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
Josh Rutledge coming on in filling in for Tim James,
who is no longer our UFO reporter, but we're playing
the music because Tim is still part of our team.
But Josh, I promise you next week when you were on,
you're gonna have your own theme song. I promise you.
It's going to be good, and it's going to be delightful, delightful.

Speaker 6 (02:03:07):
I'm looking forward to it. I might even set it
as my Ringtomee whenever you call me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
I would love it. That would make me happy. That
would make me happy. And I appreciate you being here
for the shortened version, and we want to give a
lineup change of what will be happening next week. We're
moving the UFO Report to twice a week, so Josh
will be on twice a week, and then the shortened version,

(02:03:35):
which is today, We're going to backdate it one and
Katie Page is going to come in with a little
ditty that we call the Encounters, where she is going
to be doing some weird stories from around North America.
She's from Rocky Mountain. What is a Rocky Mountain ranch research?

(02:03:56):
I always get that confused, R M R R rock
out and ranch research. So Josh, I mean, you know,
I don't know. I know you didn't hear the first
hour of the show but I mean hearing Steve Pierce
talk about the real story behind Travis Walton and Fire
in the Sky. I don't know about you, man, but
I was on the edge of my seat the entire show.

Speaker 6 (02:04:18):
Yeah, I mean I I tuned in around on the
nine of the nine thirty mark and listened for a
little bit, but then had to work on a moof
on case that I've got, and so I signed off
so I can focus on that, and then yeah, I
heard probably the last thirty minutes of the show. I mean,
it's fantastic information. Like I said, I mean, the guy

(02:04:40):
really does you know A scene had come across very genuine.
You know, I don't you know anybody that would listen
to it and think that he's trying to, you know,
to bustle in or whatever on Travis's story. I didn't
get that feeling at all. I just think that he's,
you know, he wants to make sure that people know

(02:05:03):
his side of the story, and I think it came
through that way.

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
You know, it's amazing you just ended your sentence on that,
because I was going to say and follow up with that, like,
for fifty years, this guy has been saying, Hey, what
about me, I was involved here, And I don't think
he's saying that to try and get press or money
or cash in on this event. I think he's traumatized

(02:05:32):
and that he is basically saying I lived this too.
You guys have ignored me for half a century on
this story about what happened. I want to be able
to make peace with this. That's what I took out
of it. I mean, just listening to his voice. And

(02:05:53):
you know, unfortunately our radio audience won't be able to
see HI unless you go on to our YouTube side
for the for the archive, and and I highly suggest
you do that, Okay, but you could see it in
his face the pain that this story has caused him

(02:06:13):
over the years. It caused him a lot of strife.
Body language is one of those things that's really hard
to fake.

Speaker 3 (02:06:21):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:06:22):
You can, you can get choked up, right, you can.
You can say words that you don't believe in, but
body language is like a tell tale sign. And you know,
I think, like you said, the emotion in his face,
the his body language, what he was saying, how passionate
he was about it, I think indicates you know that

(02:06:45):
he's either one or two things. He's either telling the
truth or he's telling a truth that he believes. But regardless,
it's a it's a it's it's his right to be
able to to tell that truth.

Speaker 1 (02:07:00):
I agree with you. I agree with you one hundred
percent on that. And you know, here's the funny part
about that interview that just came together maybe eight days ago.
Nine days ago. He added me on Facebook and then
he's like, you know, I was there and I went,

(02:07:21):
you're that Steve Pierce. He's like yeah, And I was like,
you got to be you got to be crapping me
right now, you know, Like are you serious? And he goes, yeah.
I said, do you want to come on the show
and tell me your story? He goes, I'd love to,
he goes, But I'm worried about the critics. You know,

(02:07:44):
I'm worried about the backlash because over the years, he's
received a lot of backlash. Yeah, when he was trying
to talk and everybody was pretty much shoving him back
in a corner like they did fifty years ago when
he was a seventeen year old kid.

Speaker 3 (02:08:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
So I hope that this interview gave him a little
bit of healing. Yeah, And I think It's really.

Speaker 6 (02:08:08):
Important that people like across the across the spectrum, regardless
it's of a UFO or anything else, realize that someone
else's interpretation of events are not a personal attack for
your interpretation of events. You know, we all perceive our

(02:08:28):
own reality differently. We know this, so you know, maybe
we just stopped getting so bent out of shape when
somebody else sees it a different way.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
With that, I'll ask you one more question before we
get to the UFO report. He believes after talking with
Alan Dallas, who's now passed away, that over the years,
Alan would say he believed that was a US craft
and that they took Travis to Area fifty one. What

(02:09:03):
do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (02:09:06):
You know, I've always struggled with the whole idea that
that the government is behind many, if not all, of
the abduction experiences. You know, that's a that's a stance
that even Stephen Greer, uh you know, echoes and I
know Melinda Leslie out of Sedona, you know she does.

(02:09:29):
She has she's very big into that idea as well.
The part for me that I guess is really hard
to believe is I don't I don't think that we
have the ability to pilot those crafts. So at a minimum,
I would say perhaps it's a it's a joint effort,
you know, e T is piloting the craft, but you know,

(02:09:51):
the government's pointing out the people to take uh, you
know like that maybe, But I just I find really
hard to believe that any government of the world. We've
talked about this before, any government of the world, if
they had the ability to create these craft that far

(02:10:12):
exceed any of our current technology, that they wouldn't have
exploited it more for their own gain.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
At this point, you know, by this point in time,
I would agree with you on that. I would. I
think that's a smart assessment. So thank you for that.
What do you have for us tonight on the UFO report,
oh Man?

Speaker 6 (02:10:36):
Something dropped earlier today. Russ Coultheart did an interview with
a guy who has broken from Skywatcher. His name is
Mike Batista. He goes by Magic Mike Batista. But I
don't think he's the Magic Mike from the movie. I

(02:10:58):
don't think he does any dance. I don't know, but yeah,
Mike Bautista, formerly a Skywatcher. Like I said, that interview
dropped tonight it's on YouTube. You can go watch it.
It's a long interview, it's like an hour and a
half something long. But in the video, Mike talks about

(02:11:18):
a landing that occurred in his backyard, and also in
the interview with Russ, they show some video footage and
some still images that Mike supposedly took with his Galaxy
Samsung Galaxy phone in his backyard. And you know, Mike

(02:11:38):
describes it as he was calling out to craft as
he is trained to do, and he saw one kind
of coming across the sky and he asked for contact,
and he got a message back, you know, a psychic
message back saying we will, but we need you to
put your dog away. And he's got like a big

(02:12:02):
german shepherd, and so he's like, okay, I guess. And
so he went in the house and he put his
dog away, and then when he came back out, something
ejected from that craft, and he described it as looking
almost like a like a meteor shooting star and it
slowly descended down and that's when he started videoing, and

(02:12:22):
he said it morphed like it when it first came down.
It in the video, if you go on YouTube and
look it up. When it first came down, it it's
like a it's like a ball at the top, and
then it has like what he thought were like angel wings.
Then it started morphing into other shapes. He said, sometimes
it looked like images he's seen on petroglyphs. And then

(02:12:43):
eventually it, you know, materialized in his backyard and he
was standing there looking at a humanoid figure who had
like a blue blue skin, blue skin, blue face, and
was wearing a purple skin tight jumpsuit. And he's like,
I'm staring at it, and it's staring at me. And
he's like, and there's a chicken there and the chickens

(02:13:04):
staring at both of us, and that was a little funny.
So but yeah, I mean, this is, like I said,
hot off the presses. I'm I'm sure that you know,
the debunkers and the cynics will pick this apart, uh,
without end. But it's it's a provocative thing. I think

(02:13:24):
at times when Russ is reviewing the footage on the show,
I think maybe sometimes he is, you know, reaching for
things that are being presented. But there's a one there's
one still that's taken where it's like you can kind
of see a little bit of a like a chest
area and a neck and like an elongated head. And

(02:13:45):
I'll tell you that I've got a I've got it.
I've got an exact picture of that taken with a
thermal camera in my house that looks exactly the same.
So that one, I would say, I would I'd be
willing to accept that one as at least equal or
equivalent to the photo that I took in my house.

(02:14:06):
But yeah, it's uh, it's very interesting, it's very provocative.
If you don't want to watch the full hour and
a half interview. Uh, there's also a really good summary
done by the guy that does vetted on YouTube as well,
and it has all the has all the videos and
the screenshots and stuff. But yeah, hot off the presses.
Supposedly we have a video and photo evidence of NHI

(02:14:33):
taking by a psionics who is formerly with Skywatcher.

Speaker 1 (02:14:38):
Now, this guy, Michael Batista, he's a former Green Beret.

Speaker 3 (02:14:42):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:14:43):
He is somebody who has you know, seen time in
very difficult places. He is somebody who was one of
the summoners. Because I refuse to use the word psionics
even though I like the term, Okay, but he was
one of the summoners for Skywatcher before. It seems like
that group seems to be dissolving quicker than quicksand right

(02:15:06):
now unfortunately. But I mean, this is somebody who's extremely
convinced of it. I watched the video when it was posted.
You could go on X as well. It's all over
X right now. And the issue that I have with
the video is we have an issue with people, myself included,

(02:15:29):
I do this where you're trying to make out all
of the details of it. So what you do is
you zoom right in and it pixelates absolutely everything in
order to make the video look crappy, to put it
that way, to make it to make it look very

(02:15:50):
very bad and very lack of a better term, debunkable, right, okay,
And I think that is part of the issue that
he's going to have, you know, because you can see
the alien figure. You can see exactly what you described
that it looks like a bluish silver alien with wearing
some sort of purple upper body body suit, you know,

(02:16:14):
and you can see that on the video. That being said,
I wish it wasn't zoomed in so far or so closely,
pardon me, so that way everything looks so pixelated. But
I mean the other thing too, when you zoom in
with a phone, you don't realize how much your human

(02:16:34):
hand is shaking until you zoom in, and that really
really takes it away. It takes away probably a great moment.
It was probably a fantastic moment for him, and good
on him for trying to remain calm in that very
hairy situation. But on the flip side, you know, beggars

(02:16:57):
can't be choosers when it comes to video.

Speaker 6 (02:17:00):
That's yeah, and I'll tell you that. You know, I've
got a Samsung Galaxy as well, and it does really
good night shots that are still shots. But the video camera,
you know, in near dark or total dark situations is
just it's just not good at all. So I don't

(02:17:20):
know even if even if it wasn't zoomed in when
he was taking the video, I don't know that it
still would have appeared or showed up, you know, any
better than what we got in the video. But I agree,
I mean, it's it is though. A I think regardless
of this situation or any other, there will always be

(02:17:42):
individuals who will seek to tear it down because either
A it doesn't go along with their narrative, or b
they may be traumatized by their own experience and so
therefore actively reject anything that causes them to process their
own experience or or be that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:06):
You know, it's just.

Speaker 6 (02:18:09):
Because it's not a clear, you know, picture or a
video that cannot be argued, you know, one way or
the other. I mean, I think I think just you know,
we've talked about it before, but I think just people
are kind of ridiculous sometimes in what they require as

(02:18:31):
quote unquote proof for you know that we're we're not alone.

Speaker 1 (02:18:36):
Did you see the video that SkyWatch Signal put out
about the jellyfish type UFO from Iraq? I have not
seen that video. Okay, it just came out and they
are saying that this comes a few months after that
it actually uh happened. I'm gonna try and bring it

(02:19:00):
up for our YouTube audience here and for yourself to see,
because I am curious to get your opinion of this video.
And you know, once again filmed in a rock, it
looks like they're calling it a squid, you know. I
to me, it looks like a floating balloon. Jeremy Corbel

(02:19:22):
called it the jellyfish video that's like a big giant
head with tentacles kind of hanging down on the video.
I mean, just your thoughts overall on this, Josh, So yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (02:19:36):
Saw this yesterday and I actually mentioned it last night briefly,
but we didn't really get into it. I downloaded this
video off of Reddit is where I found it, and
I ran it through chat GPT and asked chat GPT
to tell me if you know this is potentially CGI

(02:19:56):
or AI created, and chet GP he said, no, it
seems to be, you know, a naturally occurring or whether
the video appears to be naturally it's not created, but CGI.
You know, obviously there's some text that's overlaid on the video,
but the actual you know, image and the floating object

(02:20:17):
is not CGI. Is not AI produced, now, is it?

Speaker 3 (02:20:22):
You know?

Speaker 6 (02:20:22):
I think the last time we had one of these
leary camera or whatever it was, everybody was trying to
say it was like a group of graduation balloons or
something that we're caught in the wind. I don't know
why there would be a group of graduation balloons in
English in this part of the world, but you know,

(02:20:45):
stranger things, I guess. But yeah, I think it's really interesting,
and some of the folks on Reddit actually made the
connection which I had honestly forgot about. But the jetpot
the jetpat guy in l I if we recall like
a couple of years ago jetpop guy like I wonder
if that was a misinterpretation of the same type of phenomena,

(02:21:09):
because you would have maybe thought you were seeing legs
and a guy in a jetpack and maybe it was
the jellyfish.

Speaker 1 (02:21:16):
UAP no idea. Best answer of the night, it's a
flying b Arthur, very nice, very nice on that. We
got two and a half minutes. What do you got
short for us?

Speaker 6 (02:21:29):
Real short? Abvi Lobe put out an article on Medium
about six days ago about the Hellfire missile impact with
the UAP that was was released last week. In that article,
he says that his opinion it is it is a
hoothy drone that is impacted. I thought that was really interesting,

(02:21:55):
especially coming from Abvi Lob. You know, who wants us
to think that, you know, Amuamua was potentially in uh
you know, and nhi object that entered the Solar system.

Speaker 3 (02:22:07):
So I.

Speaker 6 (02:22:10):
He doesn't really provide a whole lot of detail to
support his claim other than there was a conflict at
the time the who these were launching drones, and so
you know, in his opinion, it's a drunk I thought.
I think it's a little weak on him to to
make that statement, given again his position within the community,

(02:22:34):
especially as a scientist, to make such a bold statement
upfront without really any supporting evidence. But yeah, and then
the last thing I'll mention is there's a currently another
meteor or comet that's moving through and is actually visible
and the night sky with just binoculars. It's near the

(02:22:57):
It's called C two thousand and five R two. You know,
we have such awesome names for these things. What happened
to hail bop and all these.

Speaker 1 (02:23:04):
Other cool names? Why can't we just have like like
comment ned Yeah, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:23:12):
But anyways, it's mostly in the southern hemisphere. You can
use binoculars look around the star spika or speaker, I
don't know how you pronounce at s P I C A,
and uh yeah, it's observable at least until around October twelfth.

(02:23:33):
The nineteenth is when it's best observable, and then when
it's gone, it won't come back around until twenty two
thousand five hundred and fifty four years from now.

Speaker 1 (02:23:43):
We may not make it to see it next time. Josh.
Where can people find your YouTube channel? You can go
to YouTube dot com.

Speaker 6 (02:23:52):
Slash at Mystic Journeys forty four, and then you can
also find me on the web at our Mystic journeys
dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:24:00):
It's always a pleasure to chat with you on spaced
Out Radio our brand new UFO report, gentlemen, Josh Rutledge
at Mystic Journeys forty four on YouTube. Make sure you
check it on out. Coming up next on spaced Out Radio,
It's the day of one oh one and we have

(02:24:20):
the weird news of the week. Stay tuned, everybody.

Speaker 9 (02:24:24):
This is spaced Out Radio and your hosts Nay Scott.

Speaker 1 (02:24:47):
All right, we're clear, great job it. We will talk
to you on Monday night. I'll have a new theme
song for you. Sounds good. Yeah, man, talk to y'all later.
See you later, buddy, Good night, Josh Routledge. Everybody one
of the good ones. So glad to have him as
a new member of our team. Yeah, very glad. I'll

(02:25:08):
be right back, guys. All right, what a fun show,

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(02:26:57):
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a Dave one O one. You know, it's been a

(02:32:00):
couple of weeks since I did one of these Dave
one of ones, and there's a lot that's been on
my mind since the hearings that took place in Washington,
DC a couple of weeks ago. I wanted to come
out with it, but we were rebuilding the studio, so
I really didn't have an opportunity to do that. But
yet here I am Now, I have been one on

(02:32:22):
record who has been very very critical on whether or
not we should do UFO hearings. I don't usually agree
with them. I don't like the mixture of politicians who
get involved, because the minute we seem to gain some momentum,
they change the politicians for the next round of talks.

(02:32:42):
And I want better questions. When you bring in green
peas who may not be very familiar with this topic,
this is where you end up with, you know, very
lame softball questions like are they little green men? Are
we sure it wasn't swamp gas? So on and so forth.
One of the participants even when as far to try

(02:33:03):
and make it totally a Mega slash Trump issue, that
we weren't getting this great story. Now, politics aside has
nothing to do with Trump, It has nothing to do
with Mega, it has nothing to do with the Democrats
or the wokeologists who walk around. No, it has nothing

(02:33:25):
to do with politics whatsoever. And until they start opening
up the can of worms, which is the military industrial
complex that is controlling this entire narrative, we're not going
to get any answers. But there were some bright spots
about that topic of the day in Washington, DC. Number one.

(02:33:48):
I thought George Knapp was incredible. Yes, the veteran reporter,
an investigative journalist from KLAS TV out of Las Vegas.
He was absolutely amazing in his answers. He did not
hold back. You could tell he had way more to say,
and in fact, I was on record he is even saying,

(02:34:10):
you know what, I could have used an hour and
a half, two hours of just George Knapp answering questions
and giving these congress people the leads that they need
in order to talk about this subject further, not behind
a skiff. Because the one thing that Napp was doing

(02:34:31):
that others have not was he was naming names, saying
this is who we need to look out for in
the public realm. So why is that important? Because most
of the other people kept on saying, if you want
to talk to me, it'll need to be in a skiff.
It will need to be a skiff. Skiff, this skiff

(02:34:51):
that you could get your skiff shirt on our website,
spaced out radio dot com in our store. Yeah, skiff,
this is what it says. Right. So the whole point
that I'm getting at with George Napp being there is
I could have listened to more because I think if
he was given more opportunity, he would have created more

(02:35:12):
Easter eggs than anybody else has publicly, because his job
as a journalist is to be public with his knowledge
and what he has learned. He's a storyteller, that's what
he does. Now. Whether you love George DApp or you
think the guy is nothing more than a shill, that

(02:35:35):
is your opinion. The fact is he did give some
great testimony from the way he got documents out of Russia.
Two different portions of his testimony, including this one and
this one, impacted me so much I even wrote it down.
He said. When he was asked about what Congress can

(02:35:55):
do to get this story out there, he said, nap.
That is, unleash the dogs and go track down the
money and see where it goes. Because a lot of
this stuff has been moved out of government. It's been
given to private contractors who stashed it away, have had

(02:36:16):
it for so long there's nobody left inside the government
or very few who know where it is. I thought
that was incredible. Then Tim Burshett followed up to keep
it away from Foya, which is exactly what George Knapp confirmed.
I thought that was an incredibly powerful line, one that

(02:36:39):
really steered the direction into something else. Look, this isn't
to put down the other two people on the board.
There were four in total, and I will get to
the fourth one in a minute. But Jeff Ducitelli and
Alexander Wiggins Wigans still being part of the USS Jackson crew,

(02:36:59):
they had great stories to tell about close encounters and
I thought they were fantastic. We need more of those.
But the problem with stories like that, especially for the
skeptics and more so the critics, is the lack of
evidence outside of word of mouth. However, we've seen recently
with many videos that are coming out and AI getting

(02:37:23):
stronger and stronger each day. Can we trust a video
any further? I think it's going to get to the
point very very soon that we will not have that
ability to do so. But getting back to the person
I really want to talk about, which is Dylan Borland.
I hope this guy does a media tour, and the

(02:37:44):
reason why I do is his story is personal about
how we followed protocol to give his research and his
encounter to a black triangle on a US Air Force base.
He turns it over to Arrow Arrow through doctor Sean Kirkpatrick,
who was leading the team at the time, basically denied

(02:38:07):
the story ever existed, denied his report ever happen, and
the fallout for Borland has been nothing short of disgusting. Now,
if we take this story at face value, that he
was a perfect employee that never did so much as
take a coffee cup from work or even a big pen,

(02:38:29):
then there's an issue here because he followed protocol on
what they've been told to do. That if you have
an encounter on a military base or wherever you work
for the government, you can get your story told to
Arrow and they're going to take care of you. The
problem is they took care of him right out of
his job and pension after twenty three years. And if

(02:38:50):
he was an A plus employee or even a B
to C plus employee, okay, it doesn't mean that he
should lose his pension, his top secret clearance, and any
other future opportunity all because he saw a UFO and
did what he was supposed to do, which is reported

(02:39:12):
to Arrow. Now, if Congress had any pull whatsoever in
this group, they would be on the phones right now
trying to get this guy's pension back at least Borland
said at the time of the hearings that he only
had maybe four to six weeks of employment insurance left
after that. He has no job prospects. He has no

(02:39:34):
idea how he's going to pay his mortgage or his bills. Literally,
he is in financial ruin all for reporting a UFO. Now,
once again, if that story is one hundred percent correct,
shame on the government for firing one of its employees
for doing something after twenty three years that he was

(02:39:55):
supposed to do. Now following that up, the UFO story
has kind of wound down over the last few weeks
or the last week, especially because of what happened politically
with Charlie Kirk. Now, I'm not going to get deep
into that because this is not a political show. My

(02:40:18):
opinion of it means nothing. It doesn't mean anything. But
the one thing that i want to say to our
listeners out there is I'm proud that you listen to
us for half an hour, an hour, two hours, sometimes
all three because we allow you to escape what is

(02:40:44):
going on in the world. The world is an ugly
place right now, and it doesn't matter where you are
in the United States. With the division in Canada with
the division, what's going on in the Middle East, what's
going on in Israel, Russia, Ukraine, the protests in Europe,
especially recently in the United Kingdom. This is something that

(02:41:09):
we cannot escape. And for the majority of you, if
you are like me, you are getting depressed by everything
that is going on. You are getting heartbroken, like I am,
watching this world, this beautiful planet that we live on,
fall into turmoil because people on both sides of the

(02:41:32):
Ledger can't seem to get along. It's time to just relax.
I mean, man, if this world ever needed an enema,
it's probably right now. Okay. And if we go back
to the seventies and eighties, because I'm a gen xer
and this is kind of what happened when we were there, Okay,

(02:41:54):
many of these people just need a very stern mama
who's going to absolutely you know, take a while and
spoon to your behind, or brush your teeth with soap.
Remember Mom always used to say, I'll wash your brush
your teeth with soap. Nobody liked that, Thank goodness, I
never got that. I had friends who got that, and

(02:42:14):
they said it was absolutely terrible, absolutely terrible. But the
point that I'm getting at is this the reason why
we stay away from politics on this show outside of UFOs,
Because the UFO story does revolve a lot around politics.

(02:42:37):
We want you, the listener, to have a break. One
of the greatest compliments a listener can give me, and
I've heard it numerous times, is that Dave, I get
to fall asleep to you each and every night. Now,

(02:42:58):
many people may say, oh great, I'm boring the living
hell out of you, and that's why you're falling asleep.
I'm looking at this as the opposite, Okay, because from
the time you wake up in the morning until the
time you tune into our show, you are hammered and battered.

(02:43:21):
Whether it's through the old legacy news, whether it's through radio,
satellite radio, social media platforms like x or blue Sky, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
you name it. You are inundated with political reels, political videos,

(02:43:43):
political opinions from people who really shouldn't have an opinion
out there one way or the other. And you're tired.
You're tired of working your tails off every single day
only to be taxed to the hilt. Where you got
to wonder if you can afford school supplies for your
kids or if you can even put a meal on

(02:44:06):
your table for that night. Many of us are in
those shoes, but for three hours a night, you get
to escape. So if you fall asleep listening to me
after only twenty five minutes or one hundred and twelve minutes,
thank you. I'm going to say thank you to you

(02:44:29):
that you allow me to get into your brain so
much that you relax and you are able to fall
asleep for a good night's sleep. It's not an insult
to me, not at all. It is a compliment. So
when somebody says, and I could give you the example,
one listener a couple of weeks ago said Dave, I'm

(02:44:51):
embarrassed to tell you this, send me this in a
private message. I'm embarrassed to tell you this, man, but
I fall asleep to you each and every night. And
I said, well, that's not an insult. That's a compliment
because that means that I have done my job. And
I know it's not that the show is boring. I

(02:45:12):
definitely know that. So it must be that you trust
us to bring you some good energy throughout the night,
because Lord knows we all need some good energy right now.
And once again I don't care what side of the
political side you stand on. If you want to know
who I am, what I'm about, I would say I'm

(02:45:35):
a centrist because I can go either way right. There's
things I like about the right and there's things I
like about the left. And I don't need to explain
myself any further than that. What I can explain to
you is we give you an opportunity to relax. We

(02:45:55):
give you an opportunity to just be you, with no complication,
no politics, no hate, no violence, just you and me
and our guest for the night, and every night we're

(02:46:15):
here for you. That is your Dave one oh one.
As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
Ladies and gentlemen, here is the latest bulletin from the
under Continental Radio News. I am good at things, fighting
and reading the news.

Speaker 9 (02:46:36):
It's time once again for spaced out radios weird news
of the week.

Speaker 1 (02:46:45):
I debated actually reading this story, but you know what,
it's weird news of the week, So I said, you
don't what why not? A southern California dude with a
history of arrests has been arrested once again, and you
know this Calis Karan Crowder, thirty eight years old. It's
going to have to spend another one hundred and thirty

(02:47:07):
five days in jail because he has a fetish. He
has a fetish he walks up to women in public
and sniffs their rear. Ends. You can't make this up
people now. Personally, I think this is a good Florid

(02:47:28):
demand story. But we're gonna use California man in this case.

Speaker 3 (02:47:33):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:47:34):
Crowder, a registered sex offender, was arrested in mid August
for butt sniffing inside an unspecified store in Burbank. The
arrest came roughly a month after he was taken into
custody for a similar offense at Burbank's Empire Center shopping center.
Yeah in July. That incident, police responded to a Nordstrom

(02:47:58):
rack following reports of a suspicious band loitering in the
women's department, but by the time officers arrived, the suspect
had already left the store. Crowder was later located and
arrested at a nearby Walmart going for round number two.
Surveillance footage showed Crowder following a female shopper inside the
door of some rack, touching her behind or party crouching

(02:48:21):
behind her and engaging in sniffing inappropriately. I'm trying not
to laugh. Who does this? Honestly? Who does this? I
can't even continue this story because I've just shaken my head.

(02:48:42):
But the butt sniffer has been catched or caught. He's
going to spend one hundred and thirty plus as in jail,
all right. Inhabitants of an apartment block in Bavaria, which
is in southwestern or southern Germany called police to investigate
the rel let miss buzzing of their doorbells late at night,

(02:49:04):
and they were able to catch the culprit. No, it
wasn't a bunch of kids or teenagers playing nicky nicky
nine doors. No, the culprit was a slug, a slug.
The slug had been sliding up and down the doorbell plate,
creating havoc in the building and tearing and making angry residents,

(02:49:31):
waking them up out of their beds long after midnight
when they could not sleep for the noise. At first,
they had suspected the so called klingle starch. I think
I pronounced that right. The bell prank was something of
a popular pastime with German use ditch dit or ding
dong ditch, knocking on the door, over and run, nicky, nicky,

(02:49:53):
nine doors, whatever you want to call it. Okay, they
thought it was a bunch of kids just playing pranks,
is what I'm trying to say. But when the ringing
continued even after the arrival of two police officers, despite
the fact that no one was at the door and
a motion detector had failed to activate, A closer look
at the metal bell plate revealed the presence of a slug,

(02:50:16):
literally a naked snaiale. Well, we'd gone to bed, but
we didn't intend to answer the door after ten pm,
so when the bell rang, I tried to ignore it,
said one person. Her name is Lisa, she goes. I
thought it might be kids from abandoned house over across
the road, but it wasn't. Note the slimy slug did

(02:50:36):
it all? That is your culprit. See if we can
sneak in one more. Investigators are searching for a man
who robbed a popular Disney Springs restaurant after it had
closed to guests. Yeah, this is how he did it.
This is actually kind of cool. Sources familiar with the
investigation believed the man swam up to the Paddlefish Restaurant

(02:51:00):
using scuba gear shortly after midnight and stole thousands of
dollars then swam away. A report by Orange County Deputies
indicated the man found a place to store his wetsuit
at Scuba Gear before walking into the manager's office where
cash from the night was being counted and deposited into
a safe. The report shows the band forcing two employees

(02:51:23):
to go to the corner of the room and then
told them to close their eyes. The report is heavily redacted,
but sources familiar with the investigation believe he got away
with up to twenty thousand dollars by doing this. That's brazen,
absolutely brazen. That is your weird news of the week.
Scuba diving for money at Disneyland. I don't recommend it because,

(02:51:48):
you know, going to jail, the idea of it kind
of sucks. Never been a criminal, so I don't really
want to go down that rope. But man, is that clever?
Totally clever. As we say hello, oh to mister Rod.
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